Re: wifi sync

[Dan Eickmeier]

Yeah, I don't get it either.  I can never seem to get Wifi sync to work.  .  .  
I have never been able to get it to work, it always says that my Mac isn't 
available.  
On Feb 16, 2012, at 1:26 AM, william lomas wrote:

>   hi all, does wifis ync work when the iphone 4 is connected to the wall 
> outlet?
> for me it only found the mac when plugged in to the mac itself via wifi what 
> is the point in this?
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Re: Maxamising windows in text edit

[Travis Siegel]

I'm not sure what you mean by maximize the window.  What are you  
trying to accomplish?
If you want text edit to be the only item vissible on the screen,  
then use hide others (in the text edit menu, usually command-shift-h)
This should move all other running applications out of the viewing  
area, leaving just text edit in the foreground.  I'm told this  
doesn't always work, but when it does, it frees the screen of  
clutter, making it easier for sighted folks to help you find things  
on the screen.
If you're trying to make the window as large as possible, then use  
the zoom option it's available under the window menu, though it  
doesn't have a keystroke tied to it by default, though if it's  
something you use regularly, you can assign one of your choosing to  
it via the keyboard shortcuts panel in preferences.  There's no exact  
windows equivalent of maximize the window, so that it takes up the  
whole screen, because even the zoom option only makes the window a  
little larger, but from what I've been told, it still doesn't cover  
the entire viewing area, though it does make things a bit larger for  
those who can't see it clearly, or if you have a bunch of windows  
open, and your sighted helper can't tell which one you're on, it does  
serve to point out where you are.
Especially if you have a lot of windows open, it can be difficult to  
pinpoint which one you're currently using sometimes.

hth.
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wifi sync

[william lomas]

hi all, does wifis ync work when the iphone 4 is connected to the wall 
outlet?
for me it only found the mac when plugged in to the mac itself via wifi what is 
the point in this?

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pasting text from an email into text edit

[Margaret Booth]

When I copy text from an email and then paste the text into text edit
it turns out as a paragrapph. This is the way vo reads the text.. I
have tried press enter after paragraphs but this doesn't work. What
can I do to fix it?

Margaret


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Maxamising windows in text edit

[Margaret Booth]

Can someone tell me how to maximise the window when I'm working in text edit.

Margaret


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Amadeus Pro Small Podcasts

[Eric Caron]

Paul  and other interested listers,

Paul had asked about some additional features in Amadeus Pro.  The link 
below is to a zipped folder with two podcast that were done by Dave, a man who 
wanted to add to the podcast I did a few years ago.  He said I could give them 
to those who might be interested. 

It has been some time since I heard them.  The style is rather unique, and 
there is good information covered. 

Here is the link for anyone who might be interested in trying them. I'll leave 
it up for a week or so.

Eric Caron 

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5620907/Dave%27s%20Podcasts.zip
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Re: Determining Status of Download

[Bryan Jones]

I can confirm that the Command+Option+L combo does not open the safari 
downloads window on my MBA running Lion 10.7.3 if I have the toolbar hiddne. VO 
announces "Show downloads" but does not open the window. Same results if I have 
the toolbar hidden but the bookmarks bar showing. Same results if VO is turned 
off. Same results if I try to activate the downloads window through the View 
menu option. Same results with the latest build of webkit. Same results if I've 
had 3 extra shots of espresso before trying this.

BTW Esther -- Glad to hear you're now running Lion! I'll drop my plan to 
request that the next Applevis campaign be to "Get Esther upgraded to Lion." ;)

Cheers,
Bryan

On Feb 15, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Esther wrote:
> I'm doing this on a clean install of Lion from about a week ago, and the 
> Command-Option-L shortcut for viewing the Downloads window in Safari only 
> works for me if I have the Safari toolbar showing.  Otherwise, even though 
> VoiceOver says "Show Downloads" when I press Command-Option-L in Safari, it 
> doesn't actually show me the downloads window.
> 
> I'm used to hiding my toolbar, which is a habit so that the extra elements 
> don't show up when I use item chooser menu.  This is not a big thing, because 
> there aren't that many of them, but it's a habit of mine, since I can still 
> use Command-Option-F to go to the Google search field or Command-L to move to 
> the address bar, and the toolbar will open up for the operation and then 
> close again.
> 
> But what I found is that:
> 1) Command-Option-L only works if my Safari toolbar is showing -- otherwise 
> there's no downloads window, even if it is announced
> 2) Even if the toolbar is showing, Command-Option-L didn't work for me until 
> after the first time I navigated to the Downloads button and pressed it.

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Re: Help with mailboxes in mail for mac (lion)

[Travis Siegel]

I don't have lion, (don't have the ram for it) but it's possible your  
mailboxes aren't trashed at all.  If you highlight the trash folder,  
and use the vo-backslash key combination, it will close the trash  
folder, then you can navigate up/down (mostly up) and see if your  
other folders are still there.  It's perfectly normal for your  
mailboxes to show up in the trash folder, because that's where your  
deleted mail goes.  This does not mean that your mailboxes are gone,  
only that all the messages you deleted are in the trash.  This has no  
bearing at all on the folders that exist in your actual inbox.


Obviously, it is possible you've deleted your entire inbox and all  
it's folders, but it's rather difficult to do that by accident, so  
I'd wager you'll find your mailboxes after you collapse the trash  
folder, then go up again to see the other mailboxes.

hth.
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Re: Help with mailboxes in mail for mac (lion)

[Daniela Rubio]

Thank you Erick. I just can`t find the rebuilt the last obtion button in the 
mailbox tab. more hearts? I can't do a time Machine, because I have being bad 
and I don't have my hard drive here. Now I am in the US training with a new dog 
guide.
Well, thank you so much and I will be waiting for more ideas if some come!
take care!

SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T.
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El 15/02/2012, a las 16:02, Eric Caron escribió:

> Hi Daniela,
> 
>   I'm not a strong mail user.  I'm sorry this happened to you.  It would 
> be very stressful to me if this happened.
> 
> The only thing I can think to try is to try pressing rebuild the last option 
> in the mailbox tab in Mail. 
> 
> Other then that I would probably go to a time machine backup or a Carbon Copy 
> cloner backup., that is if you have either available. 
> 
> Sorry I don't have more or better suggestions.
> 
> Eric Caron
> 
> 
> On Feb 14, 2012, at 9:38 PM, Daniela Rubio wrote:
> 
>> Hello all:
>> I really need some help here! Today all the mailboxes I have created 
>> desapeared from the mailboxes list. I just can't find them, but they seem to 
>> be inside the trash mailbox. I think I did nothing strange, but please, if 
>> you have any ideas they would be of great help.
>> Thank you!
>> 
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Re: Help with mailboxes in mail for mac (lion)

[Eric Caron]

Hi Daniela,

I'm not a strong mail user.  I'm sorry this happened to you.  It would 
be very stressful to me if this happened.

The only thing I can think to try is to try pressing rebuild the last option in 
the mailbox tab in Mail. 

Other then that I would probably go to a time machine backup or a Carbon Copy 
cloner backup., that is if you have either available. 

Sorry I don't have more or better suggestions.

Eric Caron
   

On Feb 14, 2012, at 9:38 PM, Daniela Rubio wrote:

> Hello all:
> I really need some help here! Today all the mailboxes I have created 
> desapeared from the mailboxes list. I just can't find them, but they seem to 
> be inside the trash mailbox. I think I did nothing strange, but please, if 
> you have any ideas they would be of great help.
> Thank you!
> 
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> MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE.
> EN TWITTER: @macneticos
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Re: Determining Status of Download

[John Panarese]

Hi Sther,
   My toolbar is showing, so that is probably a factor for sure.  I don't 
normally hide the toolbar. 

Like I said, when I first installed, Lion, the option-command-l would not 
work at all to show the downloads window.  I had to use an Apple Script toggle 
to get it to work.  However, someone pointed out to me a few months ago that 
the shortcut was suddenly working again.  When I then tried it, I suddenly was 
having success.  So, I assume the toolbar might be a factor now.

Take Care
John Panarese
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On Feb 15, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi John,
> 
> I'm doing this on a clean install of Lion from about a week ago, and the 
> Command-Option-L shortcut for viewing the Downloads window in Safari only 
> works for me if I have the Safari toolbar showing.  Otherwise, even though 
> VoiceOver says "Show Downloads" when I press Command-Option-L in Safari, it 
> doesn't actually show me the downloads window.
> 
> I'm used to hiding my toolbar, which is a habit so that the extra elements 
> don't show up when I use item chooser menu.  This is not a big thing, because 
> there aren't that many of them, but it's a habit of mine, since I can still 
> use Command-Option-F to go to the Google search field or Command-L to move to 
> the address bar, and the toolbar will open up for the operation and then 
> close again.
> 
> But what I found is that:
> 1) Command-Option-L only works if my Safari toolbar is showing -- otherwise 
> there's no downloads window, even if it is announced
> 2) Even if the toolbar is showing, Command-Option-L didn't work for me until 
> after the first time I navigated to the Downloads button and pressed it.
> 
> Again, this is the experience from a recent clean install.
> 
> HTH. Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:10 AM, John Panarese wrote:
> 
>>  It wasn't working initially.  I know in the first release of Lion it wasn't 
>> working at all.  However, I'm not sure if something was added, but someone 
>> pointed it out to me a few months ago that it is working again.
>> 
>> Take Care
>> John Panarese
>> jpanar...@mac-access.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Esther wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi John,
>>> 
>>> Can you use Command-Option-L from Safari to show the downloads window if 
>>> you don't have the toolbar showing?  Also, I thought that when I first 
>>> tried this (even with the toolbar showing) that I couldn't get 
>>> Command-Option-L to show the downloads window.  It was only after I 
>>> navigated to the "Downloads button" in the Safari toolbar and pressed it 
>>> (VO-Space) that I was able to use Command-Option-L from Safari (as opposed 
>>> to from Finder) to show the Downloads window.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> On Feb 15, 2012, at 9:40 AM, John Panarese wrote:
>>> 
 Try option-command-l.  That should get you to the download status popup.
 
 Take Care
 John Panarese
 jpanar...@mac-access.net
 
 
 
 On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Matthew Chao wrote:
 
> Hi, Folks.  I'm in the process of downloading the latest version of 
> Fusion 4.x.  How do I determine the status of the download e.g., size and 
> amount received?  I know how to switch between my Safari windows, but 
> can't get the download status.  Thanks in advance for your help.
> 
> Matthew Chao
> 
> 
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RE: Pandora

[Paula Hobley]

Hi Dane

Firstly, appologies for posting this to the list, I can't access Dane's
actual email address.  I know this is off topic.  Thanks for replying to my
message.  Is there any chance you would be able to talk me through this on
skype on the weekend?  It is sounding a little complex, I'm reasonably
technologically savvie, but this is all very new.  I have skype.

Thanks very much for your help.

Take care and have a wonderful day.

Cheers

Paula


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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 7:22 AM
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Paula Hobley 

Hi!

I'm replying to you privately as this thread will probably stray off topic
for the list a little .

The first thing you need to be able to use Pandora is a VPN or Virtual
Private Network, there are several services around which provide these
including Hotspot Shield at  the Mac client is
accessible and there's a free version available though I would suggest that
you get the paid version as its not restricted, has no advertising etc.

Once you're "behind the shield" networks in the U.S. are fooled into
thinking you're in the States rather than from Australia thus you can access
a whole heap of material you normally wouldn't be able to otherwise from
Australia if you were using your standard Internet.

I'm from Australia myself and I use a VPN here though my system is a little
more complex than what I've outlined, I won't go into it here unless you're
particularly interested.

Now the next thing and this is of particular concern if you plan to use
Pandora, as I understand it the web interface isn't particularly accessible
thus you need a Pandora client or player, I have tested one for Windows
called "Hope", its $10.00 to buy and is very nice, as yet I haven't tested a
Pandora client for Mac but they're out there, at least 2 of them.


On 16/02/2012, at 7:12 AM, Paula Hobley wrote:

> You can use Pandora outside the Us?  How do we do this?  I'm in Australia.
> 
> Thanks for your help
> 
> Paula
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 1:21 AM
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Pandora Clients for Mac
> 
> Yep, it can be used outside the U.S. if you use a VPN service such as
> Witopia, I use a Windows client at the moment but would like to use the
> service on my Mac so I'm going to investigate these clients, even better
if
> at least one is accessible and better still! if it integrates seamlessly
> into Airfoil.
> 
> 
> On 16/02/2012, at 12:16 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote:
> 
>> No, have not tried  them, as I don't believe PAndora can be used outside
> the US, and I'm in Canada here.  G, wish it could, as it sounds
really
> cool.  
>> On Feb 13, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> 
>>> The new version of Airfoil has integration with a number of Pandora
> clients for the Mac
>
 -airfoil/>
>>> 
>>> Just wondering if anyone has tried the clients listed at the above link,
> are any accessible?
>>> 
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Paula Hobley

[Dane Trethowan]

Hi!

I'm replying to you privately as this thread will probably stray off topic for 
the list a little .

The first thing you need to be able to use Pandora is a VPN or Virtual Private 
Network, there are several services around which provide these including 
Hotspot Shield at  the Mac client is accessible 
and there's a free version available though I would suggest that you get the 
paid version as its not restricted, has no advertising etc.

Once you're "behind the shield" networks in the U.S. are fooled into thinking 
you're in the States rather than from Australia thus you can access a whole 
heap of material you normally wouldn't be able to otherwise from Australia if 
you were using your standard Internet.

I'm from Australia myself and I use a VPN here though my system is a little 
more complex than what I've outlined, I won't go into it here unless you're 
particularly interested.

Now the next thing and this is of particular concern if you plan to use 
Pandora, as I understand it the web interface isn't particularly accessible 
thus you need a Pandora client or player, I have tested one for Windows called 
"Hope", its $10.00 to buy and is very nice, as yet I haven't tested a Pandora 
client for Mac but they're out there, at least 2 of them.


On 16/02/2012, at 7:12 AM, Paula Hobley wrote:

> You can use Pandora outside the Us?  How do we do this?  I'm in Australia.
> 
> Thanks for your help
> 
> Paula
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 1:21 AM
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Pandora Clients for Mac
> 
> Yep, it can be used outside the U.S. if you use a VPN service such as
> Witopia, I use a Windows client at the moment but would like to use the
> service on my Mac so I'm going to investigate these clients, even better if
> at least one is accessible and better still! if it integrates seamlessly
> into Airfoil.
> 
> 
> On 16/02/2012, at 12:16 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote:
> 
>> No, have not tried  them, as I don't believe PAndora can be used outside
> the US, and I'm in Canada here.  G, wish it could, as it sounds  really
> cool.  
>> On Feb 13, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> 
>>> The new version of Airfoil has integration with a number of Pandora
> clients for the Mac
>  -airfoil/>
>>> 
>>> Just wondering if anyone has tried the clients listed at the above link,
> are any accessible?
>>> 
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Re: Determining Status of Download

[Esther]

Hi John,

I'm doing this on a clean install of Lion from about a week ago, and the 
Command-Option-L shortcut for viewing the Downloads window in Safari only works 
for me if I have the Safari toolbar showing.  Otherwise, even though VoiceOver 
says "Show Downloads" when I press Command-Option-L in Safari, it doesn't 
actually show me the downloads window.

I'm used to hiding my toolbar, which is a habit so that the extra elements 
don't show up when I use item chooser menu.  This is not a big thing, because 
there aren't that many of them, but it's a habit of mine, since I can still use 
Command-Option-F to go to the Google search field or Command-L to move to the 
address bar, and the toolbar will open up for the operation and then close 
again.

But what I found is that:
1) Command-Option-L only works if my Safari toolbar is showing -- otherwise 
there's no downloads window, even if it is announced
2) Even if the toolbar is showing, Command-Option-L didn't work for me until 
after the first time I navigated to the Downloads button and pressed it.

Again, this is the experience from a recent clean install.

HTH. Cheers,

Esther

On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:10 AM, John Panarese wrote:

>   It wasn't working initially.  I know in the first release of Lion it wasn't 
> working at all.  However, I'm not sure if something was added, but someone 
> pointed it out to me a few months ago that it is working again.
> 
> Take Care
> John Panarese
> jpanar...@mac-access.net
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Esther wrote:
> 
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> Can you use Command-Option-L from Safari to show the downloads window if you 
>> don't have the toolbar showing?  Also, I thought that when I first tried 
>> this (even with the toolbar showing) that I couldn't get Command-Option-L to 
>> show the downloads window.  It was only after I navigated to the "Downloads 
>> button" in the Safari toolbar and pressed it (VO-Space) that I was able to 
>> use Command-Option-L from Safari (as opposed to from Finder) to show the 
>> Downloads window.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On Feb 15, 2012, at 9:40 AM, John Panarese wrote:
>> 
>>>  Try option-command-l.  That should get you to the download status popup.
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> John Panarese
>>> jpanar...@mac-access.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Matthew Chao wrote:
>>> 
 Hi, Folks.  I'm in the process of downloading the latest version of Fusion 
 4.x.  How do I determine the status of the download e.g., size and amount 
 received?  I know how to switch between my Safari windows, but can't get 
 the download status.  Thanks in advance for your help.
 
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RE: Pandora Clients for Mac

[Paula Hobley]

You can use Pandora outside the Us?  How do we do this?  I'm in Australia.

Thanks for your help

Paula


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Yep, it can be used outside the U.S. if you use a VPN service such as
Witopia, I use a Windows client at the moment but would like to use the
service on my Mac so I'm going to investigate these clients, even better if
at least one is accessible and better still! if it integrates seamlessly
into Airfoil.


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> No, have not tried  them, as I don't believe PAndora can be used outside
the US, and I'm in Canada here.  G, wish it could, as it sounds  really
cool.  
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>> The new version of Airfoil has integration with a number of Pandora
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RE: Last Fm

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Hi there

Try last fm, it's a similar concept and quite good.  You can use it by using
the web interface too.

Take care

Paula


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No, have not tried  them, as I don't believe PAndora can be used outside the
US, and I'm in Canada here.  G, wish it could, as it sounds  really
cool.  
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Re: Determining Status of Download

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   It wasn't working initially.  I know in the first release of Lion it wasn't 
working at all.  However, I'm not sure if something was added, but someone 
pointed it out to me a few months ago that it is working again.

Take Care
John Panarese
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On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi John,
> 
> Can you use Command-Option-L from Safari to show the downloads window if you 
> don't have the toolbar showing?  Also, I thought that when I first tried this 
> (even with the toolbar showing) that I couldn't get Command-Option-L to show 
> the downloads window.  It was only after I navigated to the "Downloads 
> button" in the Safari toolbar and pressed it (VO-Space) that I was able to 
> use Command-Option-L from Safari (as opposed to from Finder) to show the 
> Downloads window.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Feb 15, 2012, at 9:40 AM, John Panarese wrote:
> 
>>   Try option-command-l.  That should get you to the download status popup.
>> 
>> Take Care
>> John Panarese
>> jpanar...@mac-access.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Matthew Chao wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, Folks.  I'm in the process of downloading the latest version of Fusion 
>>> 4.x.  How do I determine the status of the download e.g., size and amount 
>>> received?  I know how to switch between my Safari windows, but can't get 
>>> the download status.  Thanks in advance for your help.
>>> 
>>> Matthew Chao
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Determining Status of Download

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Hi, John.  Thanks.  Will give your ideas a try.

Matthew Chao

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>   Unfortunately, I have yet to try Fusion, so I really don't know the answer 
> to that.  
> 
> Take Care
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> On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:51 PM, Matthew Chao wrote:
> 
>> Hi, John.  Thanks for the tip.  Also, have some questions about Fusion.  
>> Does the full version download contain the Fusion Tools, compared to the 
>> "lite" download, or do they both have the tools?  Thanks.
>> 
>> Matthew Chao
>> 
>> On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:40 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>> 
>>>  Try option-command-l.  That should get you to the download status popup.
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> John Panarese
>>> jpanar...@mac-access.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Matthew Chao wrote:
>>> 
 Hi, Folks.  I'm in the process of downloading the latest version of Fusion 
 4.x.  How do I determine the status of the download e.g., size and amount 
 received?  I know how to switch between my Safari windows, but can't get 
 the download status.  Thanks in advance for your help.
 
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Re: Determining Status of Download

[Matthew Chao]

Hi, Esther.  Thanks for the info.  I've upgraded my system to Lion this past 
fall, so I'm still learning.  Worse yet, since my work uses Windows, I don't 
have a lot of time to devote to my Mac, so it gets confusing at times.  Again, 
thanks.

Matthew Chao


On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Matthew,
> 
> I'm new to Lion, so someone else may have a better answer for you.  If you're 
> in Safari, there's a "Downloads button" on the toolbar that you can navigate 
> to by pressing Command-Option-F (to move to the Google search field) then 
> navigate with VO-Right arrow to the button and press it (VO-Space).  You need 
> to have your toolbar showing in order for this to work 
> (Command-Shift-Backslash to toggle this between show and hide on an English 
> input keyboard).
> 
> Once you have pressed this button, the Command-Option-L shortcut to bring up 
> the Downloads window of Safari seems to work from Safari.  When I first 
> started using Safari 5.1.2 under Lion a few days ago, I tried 
> Command-Option-L and couldn't get this shortcut to work for me from Safari.  
> It will work from Finder to show the downloads folder, but not from Safari.
> 
> The issue was that I usually keep my Safari toolbar hidden.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Feb 15, 2012, at 9:26 AM, Matthew Chao wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Folks.  I'm in the process of downloading the latest version of Fusion 
>> 4.x.  How do I determine the status of the download e.g., size and amount 
>> received?  I know how to switch between my Safari windows, but can't get the 
>> download status.  Thanks in advance for your help.
>> 
>> Matthew Chao
>> 
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Re: Determining Status of Download

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Hi John,

Can you use Command-Option-L from Safari to show the downloads window if you 
don't have the toolbar showing?  Also, I thought that when I first tried this 
(even with the toolbar showing) that I couldn't get Command-Option-L to show 
the downloads window.  It was only after I navigated to the "Downloads button" 
in the Safari toolbar and pressed it (VO-Space) that I was able to use 
Command-Option-L from Safari (as opposed to from Finder) to show the Downloads 
window.

Cheers,

Esther

On Feb 15, 2012, at 9:40 AM, John Panarese wrote:

>Try option-command-l.  That should get you to the download status popup.
> 
> Take Care
> John Panarese
> jpanar...@mac-access.net
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Matthew Chao wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Folks.  I'm in the process of downloading the latest version of Fusion 
>> 4.x.  How do I determine the status of the download e.g., size and amount 
>> received?  I know how to switch between my Safari windows, but can't get the 
>> download status.  Thanks in advance for your help.
>> 
>> Matthew Chao
>> 
>> 

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Re: Determining Status of Download

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   Unfortunately, I have yet to try Fusion, so I really don't know the answer 
to that.  

Take Care
John Panarese
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On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:51 PM, Matthew Chao wrote:

> Hi, John.  Thanks for the tip.  Also, have some questions about Fusion.  Does 
> the full version download contain the Fusion Tools, compared to the "lite" 
> download, or do they both have the tools?  Thanks.
> 
> Matthew Chao
> 
> On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:40 PM, John Panarese wrote:
> 
>>   Try option-command-l.  That should get you to the download status popup.
>> 
>> Take Care
>> John Panarese
>> jpanar...@mac-access.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Matthew Chao wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, Folks.  I'm in the process of downloading the latest version of Fusion 
>>> 4.x.  How do I determine the status of the download e.g., size and amount 
>>> received?  I know how to switch between my Safari windows, but can't get 
>>> the download status.  Thanks in advance for your help.
>>> 
>>> Matthew Chao
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Re: Determining Status of Download

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Hi Matthew,

I'm new to Lion, so someone else may have a better answer for you.  If you're 
in Safari, there's a "Downloads button" on the toolbar that you can navigate to 
by pressing Command-Option-F (to move to the Google search field) then navigate 
with VO-Right arrow to the button and press it (VO-Space).  You need to have 
your toolbar showing in order for this to work (Command-Shift-Backslash to 
toggle this between show and hide on an English input keyboard).

Once you have pressed this button, the Command-Option-L shortcut to bring up 
the Downloads window of Safari seems to work from Safari.  When I first started 
using Safari 5.1.2 under Lion a few days ago, I tried Command-Option-L and 
couldn't get this shortcut to work for me from Safari.  It will work from 
Finder to show the downloads folder, but not from Safari.

The issue was that I usually keep my Safari toolbar hidden.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Feb 15, 2012, at 9:26 AM, Matthew Chao wrote:

> Hi, Folks.  I'm in the process of downloading the latest version of Fusion 
> 4.x.  How do I determine the status of the download e.g., size and amount 
> received?  I know how to switch between my Safari windows, but can't get the 
> download status.  Thanks in advance for your help.
> 
> Matthew Chao
> 

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Re: Determining Status of Download

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Hi, John.  Thanks for the tip.  Also, have some questions about Fusion.  Does 
the full version download contain the Fusion Tools, compared to the "lite" 
download, or do they both have the tools?  Thanks.

Matthew Chao

On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:40 PM, John Panarese wrote:

>Try option-command-l.  That should get you to the download status popup.
> 
> Take Care
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> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Matthew Chao wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Folks.  I'm in the process of downloading the latest version of Fusion 
>> 4.x.  How do I determine the status of the download e.g., size and amount 
>> received?  I know how to switch between my Safari windows, but can't get the 
>> download status.  Thanks in advance for your help.
>> 
>> Matthew Chao
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Re: Determining Status of Download

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Try option-command-l.  That should get you to the download status popup.

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> Hi, Folks.  I'm in the process of downloading the latest version of Fusion 
> 4.x.  How do I determine the status of the download e.g., size and amount 
> received?  I know how to switch between my Safari windows, but can't get the 
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Re: Safari questions

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Isn't she wonderful?


I've learnt so much from Esther's helpful posts, it's a pity there's not a 
BAFTA, Golden Globe or Oscar we can award her.

Heartfelt thanks

G

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On 15 Feb 2012, at 17:20, Esther wrote:

> Hi Geoff, Kristeen, Gordon, and Others,
> 
> I still use item chooser menu a lot, especially since it works well for both 
> current and earlier versions of Mac OS X (all the way back to Tiger). A nice 
> feature of item chooser menu is that you can refine your search for an item 
> to include category.  For example, if I'm using item chooser menu on a web 
> page like the one for Applevis, and I want to find the links for their 
> "Campaign of the Month", I can type VO-I to bring up item chooser menu, then 
> quickly type "c a m" to filter results in the menu for elements that match 
> those letters, then quickly type "l i n k" to further filter those results 
> for links.  If I'm looking for a button I might quickly type "b u t" instead 
> for the second match.  By then, there are only a few matches on the menu, and 
> I can arrow down to the match and press either "Return" or use VO-Space to be 
> taken to my selection.  Remember that item chooser menu only navigates you to 
> an element.  If there's a link or button that you're trying to activate yo
 u 
> still need to do another VO-Space, etc. to actually press.  If you decide to 
> amend your item chooser search terms, press the "Delete" key and start typing 
> again.  Item chooser menu is a simple yet very powerful tool to help find 
> things.
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To navigate letter-by-letter, use vo-shift-left/right arrow.  That  
will move you a character at a time, as long as you're already  
interacting with the item in question.

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Re: Safari questions

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Hi Geoff, Kristeen, Gordon, and Others,

I still use item chooser menu a lot, especially since it works well for both 
current and earlier versions of Mac OS X (all the way back to Tiger). A nice 
feature of item chooser menu is that you can refine your search for an item to 
include category.  For example, if I'm using item chooser menu on a web page 
like the one for Applevis, and I want to find the links for their "Campaign of 
the Month", I can type VO-I to bring up item chooser menu, then quickly type "c 
a m" to filter results in the menu for elements that match those letters, then 
quickly type "l i n k" to further filter those results for links.  If I'm 
looking for a button I might quickly type "b u t" instead for the second match. 
 By then, there are only a few matches on the menu, and I can arrow down to the 
match and press either "Return" or use VO-Space to be taken to my selection.  
Remember that item chooser menu only navigates you to an element.  If there's a 
link or button that you're trying to activate you 
 still need to do another VO-Space, etc. to actually press.  If you decide to 
amend your item chooser search terms, press the "Delete" key and start typing 
again.  Item chooser menu is a simple yet very powerful tool to help find 
things.

Geoff, in what regards do feel item chooser's functionality has been abated in 
Lion?  Also, which web item rotor settings do people find most helpful to 
use/add?  (From the experience on the iPhone, surprisingly, images are very 
useful for navigation on the iOS screens).

Cheers,

Esther


On Feb 15, 2012, at 6:48 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:

> Hi Kristeen,
> 
> One tool that may help with searching is the item chooser (VO-i).  Its 
> functionality seems to have been abated in Lion, but its remains a way to 
> quickly skip to elements on the web and elsewhere.
> 
> Best regards.
> Geoff
> 
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Kristeen Hughes 
>  To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
>  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:49 AM
>  Subject: Re: Safari questions
> 
> 
>  Thank you. It helped a lot.
> 
>  Kristeen
> 
>  On Feb 15, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Gordon Keen wrote:
> 
>> I would also suggest that once interacting with the link you use the vo plus 
>> w toggle to read on the first press the word, second press by character and 
>> third press by phonetic spelling.
>> 
>> It is also very useful to explore the potential of the web item rotor with 
>> vo plus u then moving the options with vo plus right arrow.
>> 
>> Hope this helps
>> 
>> G
>> 
>> From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England.  
>> On 15 Feb 2012, at 10:37, Thomas McMahan wrote:
>> 
>>> In answer to your first question, yes v o shift down thus interact, if it 
>>> is is text then you can read letter by letter with v o right arrow.  If 
>>> it's a link though, no, so if you want the letters of a link then copy it 
>>> over into a new document or in a new mail, unless it's in the address bar 
>>> itself, then by interacting you can get it letter by letter.  As for the 
>>> other questions, don't know because I don't use the find very often simply 
>>> because I want to be at where I am hearing what is spoken anyway so will 
>>> put up with navigating instead.
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Re: Safari questions

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Hi Kristeen,

One tool that may help with searching is the item chooser (VO-i).  Its 
functionality seems to have been abated in Lion, but its remains a way to 
quickly skip to elements on the web and elsewhere.

Best regards.
Geoff

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  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:49 AM
  Subject: Re: Safari questions


  Thank you. It helped a lot.

  Kristeen

  On Feb 15, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Gordon Keen wrote:

  > I would also suggest that once interacting with the link you use the vo 
plus w toggle to read on the first press the word, second press by character 
and third press by phonetic spelling.
  > 
  > It is also very useful to explore the potential of the web item rotor with 
vo plus u then moving the options with vo plus right arrow.
  > 
  > Hope this helps
  > 
  > G
  > 
  > From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England.  
  > On 15 Feb 2012, at 10:37, Thomas McMahan wrote:
  > 
  >> In answer to your first question, yes v o shift down thus interact, if it 
is is text then you can read letter by letter with v o right arrow.  If it's a 
link though, no, so if you want the letters of a link then copy it over into a 
new document or in a new mail, unless it's in the address bar itself, then by 
interacting you can get it letter by letter.  As for the other questions, don't 
know because I don't use the find very often simply because I want to be at 
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Re: Safari questions

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Thank you. It helped a lot.

Kristeen

On Feb 15, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Gordon Keen wrote:

> I would also suggest that once interacting with the link you use the vo plus 
> w toggle to read on the first press the word, second press by character and 
> third press by phonetic spelling.
> 
> It is also very useful to explore the potential of the web item rotor with vo 
> plus u then moving the options with vo plus right arrow.
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> G
> 
> From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England.  
> On 15 Feb 2012, at 10:37, Thomas McMahan wrote:
> 
>> In answer to your first question, yes v o shift down thus interact, if it is 
>> is text then you can read letter by letter with v o right arrow.  If it's a 
>> link though, no, so if you want the letters of a link then copy it over into 
>> a new document or in a new mail, unless it's in the address bar itself, then 
>> by interacting you can get it letter by letter.  As for the other questions, 
>> don't know because I don't use the find very often simply because I want to 
>> be at where I am hearing what is spoken anyway so will put up with 
>> navigating instead.
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[Jane]

I tried using Louis on my Mac to turn text into Braille, but it won't run. Does 
anyone know if there's an update out there that'll run under Lion?

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Re: Pandora Clients for Mac

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Yep, it can be used outside the U.S. if you use a VPN service such as Witopia, 
I use a Windows client at the moment but would like to use the service on my 
Mac so I'm going to investigate these clients, even better if at least one is 
accessible and better still! if it integrates seamlessly into Airfoil.


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> No, have not tried  them, as I don't believe PAndora can be used outside the 
> US, and I'm in Canada here.  G, wish it could, as it sounds  really cool. 
>  
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>> Hi!
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>> The new version of Airfoil has integration with a number of Pandora clients 
>> for the Mac 
>> 
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>> Just wondering if anyone has tried the clients listed at the above link, are 
>> any accessible?
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Unable to use iTunes while autofilling iPhone

[Sunil Peck]

Hi,

I wanted to watch a video in iTunes while iTunes was simultaneously autofilling 
my iPhone.

But soon after the process started I heard the 'iTunes busy' announcement when 
I pressed a key or tried to navigate anywhere within iTunes.

I turned Voiceover off and back on several times but the problem persisted.

After about half an hour I powered my MacBook down because I had no way of 
finding out what was going on in iTunes or how to get it to function properly.

I'm using a MacBook Pro running the latest version of Lion and my iPhone is a 
16gb 3GS. I had allocated either 8 or 10gb of the iPhone's memory and the 
library it was autofilling from is about 40gb.

Is there anything I can do so that next time, iTunes isn't rendered completely 
useless during the autofill process? If for instance it's worth autofilling 
less of my iPhone's memory, how much would it be worth reducing the 8 or 10gb 
by?

Thanks in advance for advice.

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Re: Safari questions

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That would do it, thanks for the reminder, had forgotten about do that, makes 
it a lot more simple huh?

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> I would also suggest that once interacting with the link you use the vo plus 
> w toggle to read on the first press the word, second press by character and 
> third press by phonetic spelling.
> 
> It is also very useful to explore the potential of the web item rotor with vo 
> plus u then moving the options with vo plus right arrow.
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> G
> 
> From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England.  
> On 15 Feb 2012, at 10:37, Thomas McMahan wrote:
> 
>> In answer to your first question, yes v o shift down thus interact, if it is 
>> is text then you can read letter by letter with v o right arrow.  If it's a 
>> link though, no, so if you want the letters of a link then copy it over into 
>> a new document or in a new mail, unless it's in the address bar itself, then 
>> by interacting you can get it letter by letter.  As for the other questions, 
>> don't know because I don't use the find very often simply because I want to 
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I would also suggest that once interacting with the link you use the vo plus w 
toggle to read on the first press the word, second press by character and third 
press by phonetic spelling.

It is also very useful to explore the potential of the web item rotor with vo 
plus u then moving the options with vo plus right arrow.

Hope this helps

G

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On 15 Feb 2012, at 10:37, Thomas McMahan wrote:

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> is text then you can read letter by letter with v o right arrow.  If it's a 
> link though, no, so if you want the letters of a link then copy it over into 
> a new document or in a new mail, unless it's in the address bar itself, then 
> by interacting you can get it letter by letter.  As for the other questions, 
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Re: Safari questions

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In answer to your first question, yes v o shift down thus interact, if it is is 
text then you can read letter by letter with v o right arrow.  If it's a link 
though, no, so if you want the letters of a link then copy it over into a new 
document or in a new mail, unless it's in the address bar itself, then by 
interacting you can get it letter by letter.  As for the other questions, don't 
know because I don't use the find very often simply because I want to be at 
where I am hearing what is spoken anyway so will put up with navigating 
instead.  
On Feb 14, 2012, at 9:44 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote:

> I know I'm pestering all of you folks and making you think, but now that 
> there is no PC, I have to learn some of the things that I was putting off. I 
> do try and find the answers by looking, but sometimes it doesn't seem to work 
> for me.
> 
> If you are reading a link or any text for that matter, is there any way to 
> see what you are reading letter by letter or word by word?
> 
> Also, I am very frustrated by the find feature. When I use command+f it finds 
> what I want wonderfully, but then it won't let me go there. And, is there a 
> quick command for finding the next occurrence of something you've already 
> searched for?
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> Thanks.
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