Re: Navigon Offline Navigation App Available for $20 off on iOS, Two Weeks Only [Dealhacker]
Hi Jane, The link Sarah provided should answer your question. Short answer is that the maps you receive depend on which version you buy. And to answer Lovette's question, I have no light perception, yet am able to use Navigon. Not sure how accessible the optional in-app items such as pilot are, but the core features (excluding 2D or 3D map display) are very usable. Best regards. Geoff - Original Message - From: Jane To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 9:26 PM Subject: Re: Navigon Offline Navigation App Available for $20 off on iOS,Two Weeks Only [Dealhacker] So if I buy this app, I'd get the maps included, or do I have to buy those in addition? Jane On Jul 3, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: For those that use the app or for those that want to use the app here ya go. http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/lifehacker/full/~3/s_a0AEHgN1o/navigon-offline-navigation-app-availalbe-for-20-off-on-ios-two-weeks-only --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: fan in mbp?
Hi Lynne, Depending on what application he used to play music (we'll assume iTunes,) some processes in OS X sometimes run very resource-hungry tasks. One resource to watch out for in particular is mdworker. What this stands for is Metadata Server worker and it ensures that your files are Indexed using Spotlight, and is the core technology behind the search engine. It generates its index using metadata making it possible to find files instantaneously using Spotlight. It's very much known to take up a lot of CPU, so this is probably what happened. It tends to really start working when you, for instance, plug in an external hard drive. Keep in mind that it tries to index all of the new files that it discovers, so depending on the new files found it may take longer than you expect. Also depending on the workload it will work harder, but the high CPU usage is totally normal. Other processes may increase your CPU usage, like Voiceover, but if VoiceOver does this often you need to do some tro ubleshooting. VoiceOVer is designed to hardly eat up any resources. You can review the CPU usage of your processes through /Applications/Utilities/Activity Monitor.app or by using Terminal commands. A kernel panic is something entirely different and actually causes your Mac to freeze, and even third party programs can cause this, although kernel panics should be extremely rare. it is an internal fatal error for which your operating system cannot recover, and is often related to hardware problems though some software particularly in the operating system itself may trigger the behaviour. It's a safety mechanism which aims to prevent data corruption and the risk of data breaches, and attempts to facilitate a diagnosis of the error. For those familiar with Windows, this is what most users even consumers call the blue screen, or Bug check. Regards, Nicolai On Jul 4, 2012, at 1:22 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Josh and Sarah There are occasions where you can run into what I believe is a Panic at a very low level. These Panics or Kernel Panics can cause symptoms such as the fan speed increasing or hard drive access becoming sluggish. In a lot of cases, you can help your Mac recover from these Panics by simply shutting it down and then restarting. I'm lead to believe that some or all of these Panics are logged and can be sent to Apple as a report. Of course, somebody may know better than I; in fact they probably do. But having read a lot of stuff on Apple's technical pages I think this is the kind of situation you're running into. Lynne On 4 Jul 2012, at 02:18, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Is it anything to seriously worry about? Like will anything happen to my mac from it? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: fan in mbp?
Hmmm... quite interesting stuff... the fan speed seemed pretty high if I could hear it, I've never heard it that high before. But, as long as nothing serious can happen, I think we're ok, :) thanks all for the advice, it's greatly appreciated! On 7/4/12, Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lynne, Depending on what application he used to play music (we'll assume iTunes,) some processes in OS X sometimes run very resource-hungry tasks. One resource to watch out for in particular is mdworker. What this stands for is Metadata Server worker and it ensures that your files are Indexed using Spotlight, and is the core technology behind the search engine. It generates its index using metadata making it possible to find files instantaneously using Spotlight. It's very much known to take up a lot of CPU, so this is probably what happened. It tends to really start working when you, for instance, plug in an external hard drive. Keep in mind that it tries to index all of the new files that it discovers, so depending on the new files found it may take longer than you expect. Also depending on the workload it will work harder, but the high CPU usage is totally normal. Other processes may increase your CPU usage, like Voiceover, but if VoiceOver does this often you need to do some tro ubleshooting. VoiceOVer is designed to hardly eat up any resources. You can review the CPU usage of your processes through /Applications/Utilities/Activity Monitor.app or by using Terminal commands. A kernel panic is something entirely different and actually causes your Mac to freeze, and even third party programs can cause this, although kernel panics should be extremely rare. it is an internal fatal error for which your operating system cannot recover, and is often related to hardware problems though some software particularly in the operating system itself may trigger the behaviour. It's a safety mechanism which aims to prevent data corruption and the risk of data breaches, and attempts to facilitate a diagnosis of the error. For those familiar with Windows, this is what most users even consumers call the blue screen, or Bug check. Regards, Nicolai On Jul 4, 2012, at 1:22 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Josh and Sarah There are occasions where you can run into what I believe is a Panic at a very low level. These Panics or Kernel Panics can cause symptoms such as the fan speed increasing or hard drive access becoming sluggish. In a lot of cases, you can help your Mac recover from these Panics by simply shutting it down and then restarting. I'm lead to believe that some or all of these Panics are logged and can be sent to Apple as a report. Of course, somebody may know better than I; in fact they probably do. But having read a lot of stuff on Apple's technical pages I think this is the kind of situation you're running into. Lynne On 4 Jul 2012, at 02:18, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Is it anything to seriously worry about? Like will anything happen to my mac from it? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the
Re: Navigon Offline Navigation App Available for $20 off on iOS, Two Weeks Only [Dealhacker]
That I'm not sure of. I think you get them free, but again Im not sure. Maybe someone knows. I just downloaded the new update and might have to redo my maps manager. On Jul 3, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Jane wrote: So if I buy this app, I'd get the maps included, or do I have to buy those in addition? Jane On Jul 3, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: For those that use the app or for those that want to use the app here ya go. http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/lifehacker/full/~3/s_a0AEHgN1o/navigon-offline-navigation-app-availalbe-for-20-off-on-ios-two-weeks-only --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Recovering from accidental muting
Oh it really is. it take lot to mute speech. I've managed to mute it with my flesh of my palm but that's so rare that I can count only 1 time 've done it. On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:47 PM, David Griffith wrote: Absolutely - I know there are Trackpad fans but I tend to find myself tapping away with three fingers to no affect in an increasingly Basil Fawlty like frenzied attempt to get Voiceover unmuted. Now I have my key set up in keyboard Commander, there is no problem. I wonder if there is a difference in responsiveness between the integrated trackpad of the Macs - I phone and the standalone Bluetooth Trackpad for the Imac? I mentioned this on another list when I first bought my I Mac last year and it bought an interesting response. Another person said that he also found the magic Trackpad over sensitive and difficult to use, but he said that the Touch interface on the I Phone was vastly superior. In fact this person said that he wanted Apple to amend its magic trackpad so that it responds more like the touch Screen of the I Phone. This difficulty with the magic Trackpad has, for me, been the major disencouragement from getting an I phone. it would be useful then if anybody else could confirm that the Magic Trackpad is inferior to the touch screen of the I Phone . David Griffith .-Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: 04 July 2012 00:49 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Recovering from accidental muting That's true as well, but some users have no track pad hence why I teach the keyboard commander.. Hope that helps. On Jul 3, 2012, at 16:21, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: The trackpad will work, too. On 7/3/12, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Oh? I thought you could only have the option key as a keyboard commander. Those are hotspots keys not keyboard commander keys. Take care. On Jul 3, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: I have vo+6 to toggle mute sounds, vo+7 to toggle mute speech, and vo+8 to toggle mute voiceover. I rarely if ever use them, but the vo+8 commander is the best in the off chance that I accidentally mute vo. Marcy On Jul 3, 2012, at 5:26 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: No, but you can set them up in the keyboard commander. I have vo plus v for speech and that's the only one I have set up as that's the only one I use. On Jul 3, 2012, at 2:16 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: Hello, I note from the audio section in command help (VO+hh) that there are three kinds of mute - mute sound, mute speech and mute VoiceOver. If any of these accidentally get muted is there a sure way to umute them on a MacBook. I.e. are there hotkeys or the like to recover from accidental muting? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Marcy marcy.weinbe...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing
Re: Navigon Offline Navigation App Available for $20 off on iOS, Two Weeks Only [Dealhacker]
so this is all you would need and it looks like it would work on an IPOD touch? On 2012-07-03, at 11:05 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Hi Jane, The link Sarah provided should answer your question. Short answer is that the maps you receive depend on which version you buy. And to answer Lovette's question, I have no light perception, yet am able to use Navigon. Not sure how accessible the optional in-app items such as pilot are, but the core features (excluding 2D or 3D map display) are very usable. Best regards. Geoff - Original Message - From: Jane To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 9:26 PM Subject: Re: Navigon Offline Navigation App Available for $20 off on iOS,Two Weeks Only [Dealhacker] So if I buy this app, I'd get the maps included, or do I have to buy those in addition? Jane On Jul 3, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: For those that use the app or for those that want to use the app here ya go. http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/lifehacker/full/~3/s_a0AEHgN1o/navigon-offline-navigation-app-availalbe-for-20-off-on-ios-two-weeks-only --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Recovering from accidental muting
I can say the built-in track pad is not that way. All I need to use is my two fingers and I can mute it with the double tap. On Jul 4, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: T.J. Oh it really is. it take lot to mute speech. I've managed to mute it with my flesh of my palm but that's so rare that I can count only 1 time 've done it. On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:47 PM, David Griffith wrote: Absolutely - I know there are Trackpad fans but I tend to find myself tapping away with three fingers to no affect in an increasingly Basil Fawlty like frenzied attempt to get Voiceover unmuted. Now I have my key set up in keyboard Commander, there is no problem. I wonder if there is a difference in responsiveness between the integrated trackpad of the Macs - I phone and the standalone Bluetooth Trackpad for the Imac? I mentioned this on another list when I first bought my I Mac last year and it bought an interesting response. Another person said that he also found the magic Trackpad over sensitive and difficult to use, but he said that the Touch interface on the I Phone was vastly superior. In fact this person said that he wanted Apple to amend its magic trackpad so that it responds more like the touch Screen of the I Phone. This difficulty with the magic Trackpad has, for me, been the major disencouragement from getting an I phone. it would be useful then if anybody else could confirm that the Magic Trackpad is inferior to the touch screen of the I Phone . David Griffith .-Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: 04 July 2012 00:49 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Recovering from accidental muting That's true as well, but some users have no track pad hence why I teach the keyboard commander.. Hope that helps. On Jul 3, 2012, at 16:21, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: The trackpad will work, too. On 7/3/12, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Oh? I thought you could only have the option key as a keyboard commander. Those are hotspots keys not keyboard commander keys. Take care. On Jul 3, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: I have vo+6 to toggle mute sounds, vo+7 to toggle mute speech, and vo+8 to toggle mute voiceover. I rarely if ever use them, but the vo+8 commander is the best in the off chance that I accidentally mute vo. Marcy On Jul 3, 2012, at 5:26 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: No, but you can set them up in the keyboard commander. I have vo plus v for speech and that's the only one I have set up as that's the only one I use. On Jul 3, 2012, at 2:16 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: Hello, I note from the audio section in command help (VO+hh) that there are three kinds of mute - mute sound, mute speech and mute VoiceOver. If any of these accidentally get muted is there a sure way to umute them on a MacBook. I.e. are there hotkeys or the like to recover from accidental muting? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Marcy marcy.weinbe...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive:
Re: Navigon Offline Navigation App Available for $20 off on iOS,Two Weeks Only [Dealhacker]
don't think that it'll work on an IPod Touch. - Original Message - From: Lovette Yewchan lyewc...@telus.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 1:20 PM Subject: Re: Navigon Offline Navigation App Available for $20 off on iOS,Two Weeks Only [Dealhacker] so this is all you would need and it looks like it would work on an IPOD touch? On 2012-07-03, at 11:05 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Hi Jane, The link Sarah provided should answer your question. Short answer is that the maps you receive depend on which version you buy. And to answer Lovette's question, I have no light perception, yet am able to use Navigon. Not sure how accessible the optional in-app items such as pilot are, but the core features (excluding 2D or 3D map display) are very usable. Best regards. Geoff - Original Message - From: Jane To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 9:26 PM Subject: Re: Navigon Offline Navigation App Available for $20 off on iOS,Two Weeks Only [Dealhacker] So if I buy this app, I'd get the maps included, or do I have to buy those in addition? Jane On Jul 3, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: For those that use the app or for those that want to use the app here ya go. http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/lifehacker/full/~3/s_a0AEHgN1o/navigon-offline-navigation-app-availalbe-for-20-off-on-ios-two-weeks-only --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7271 (20120704) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http
Re: fan in mbp?
Hello Nic I will top post here; so as to make it easy for you to quickly read my reply. I don't claim to be anywhere close to your level of expertise when it comes to the oS. But I have read that a Kernel Panic can cause high fan activity. I agree with your description of a Kernel Panic in comparison to the dreaded Blue Screen that Windows users will know so well. Perhaps my description was a little inaccurate and, if so, I apologise most humbly for that. ;-) Lynne On 4 Jul 2012, at 13:37, Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lynne, Depending on what application he used to play music (we'll assume iTunes,) some processes in OS X sometimes run very resource-hungry tasks. One resource to watch out for in particular is mdworker. What this stands for is Metadata Server worker and it ensures that your files are Indexed using Spotlight, and is the core technology behind the search engine. It generates its index using metadata making it possible to find files instantaneously using Spotlight. It's very much known to take up a lot of CPU, so this is probably what happened. It tends to really start working when you, for instance, plug in an external hard drive. Keep in mind that it tries to index all of the new files that it discovers, so depending on the new files found it may take longer than you expect. Also depending on the workload it will work harder, but the high CPU usage is totally normal. Other processes may increase your CPU usage, like Voiceover, but if VoiceOver does this often you need to do some tro ubleshooting. VoiceOVer is designed to hardly eat up any resources. You can review the CPU usage of your processes through /Applications/Utilities/Activity Monitor.app or by using Terminal commands. A kernel panic is something entirely different and actually causes your Mac to freeze, and even third party programs can cause this, although kernel panics should be extremely rare. it is an internal fatal error for which your operating system cannot recover, and is often related to hardware problems though some software particularly in the operating system itself may trigger the behaviour. It's a safety mechanism which aims to prevent data corruption and the risk of data breaches, and attempts to facilitate a diagnosis of the error. For those familiar with Windows, this is what most users even consumers call the blue screen, or Bug check. Regards, Nicolai On Jul 4, 2012, at 1:22 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Josh and Sarah There are occasions where you can run into what I believe is a Panic at a very low level. These Panics or Kernel Panics can cause symptoms such as the fan speed increasing or hard drive access becoming sluggish. In a lot of cases, you can help your Mac recover from these Panics by simply shutting it down and then restarting. I'm lead to believe that some or all of these Panics are logged and can be sent to Apple as a report. Of course, somebody may know better than I; in fact they probably do. But having read a lot of stuff on Apple's technical pages I think this is the kind of situation you're running into. Lynne On 4 Jul 2012, at 02:18, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Is it anything to seriously worry about? Like will anything happen to my mac from it? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net
Re: Navigon Offline Navigation App Available for $20 off on iOS, Two Weeks Only [Dealhacker]
No it won't as if I recall the iPod touch does not have a gps solution. someone who has an iPod touch can correct me on that though. Take care. On Jul 4, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Arthur Barney wrote: don't think that it'll work on an IPod Touch. - Original Message - From: Lovette Yewchan lyewc...@telus.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 1:20 PM Subject: Re: Navigon Offline Navigation App Available for $20 off on iOS,Two Weeks Only [Dealhacker] so this is all you would need and it looks like it would work on an IPOD touch? On 2012-07-03, at 11:05 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Hi Jane, The link Sarah provided should answer your question. Short answer is that the maps you receive depend on which version you buy. And to answer Lovette's question, I have no light perception, yet am able to use Navigon. Not sure how accessible the optional in-app items such as pilot are, but the core features (excluding 2D or 3D map display) are very usable. Best regards. Geoff - Original Message - From: Jane To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 9:26 PM Subject: Re: Navigon Offline Navigation App Available for $20 off on iOS,Two Weeks Only [Dealhacker] So if I buy this app, I'd get the maps included, or do I have to buy those in addition? Jane On Jul 3, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: For those that use the app or for those that want to use the app here ya go. http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/lifehacker/full/~3/s_a0AEHgN1o/navigon-offline-navigation-app-availalbe-for-20-off-on-ios-two-weeks-only --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7271 (20120704) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply
Re: Navigon Offline Navigation App Available for $20 off on iOS, TwoWeeks Only [Dealhacker]
It will if you get an external bluetooth GPS receiver for the iPod. Glenn - Original Message - From: Arthur Barney abar...@personainternet.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 12:26 PM Subject: Re: Navigon Offline Navigation App Available for $20 off on iOS,TwoWeeks Only [Dealhacker] don't think that it'll work on an IPod Touch. - Original Message - From: Lovette Yewchan lyewc...@telus.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 1:20 PM Subject: Re: Navigon Offline Navigation App Available for $20 off on iOS,Two Weeks Only [Dealhacker] so this is all you would need and it looks like it would work on an IPOD touch? On 2012-07-03, at 11:05 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Hi Jane, The link Sarah provided should answer your question. Short answer is that the maps you receive depend on which version you buy. And to answer Lovette's question, I have no light perception, yet am able to use Navigon. Not sure how accessible the optional in-app items such as pilot are, but the core features (excluding 2D or 3D map display) are very usable. Best regards. Geoff - Original Message - From: Jane To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 9:26 PM Subject: Re: Navigon Offline Navigation App Available for $20 off on iOS,Two Weeks Only [Dealhacker] So if I buy this app, I'd get the maps included, or do I have to buy those in addition? Jane On Jul 3, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: For those that use the app or for those that want to use the app here ya go. http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/lifehacker/full/~3/s_a0AEHgN1o/navigon-offline-navigation-app-availalbe-for-20-off-on-ios-two-weeks-only --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7271 (20120704) __ The message was checked by ESET
Re: fan in mbp?
Hi Lynne, OS X can reboot about 15 seconds later if you set the option in the Energy Saver preferences, however this feature seems to be the default under 10.8, Mountain Lion, and cannot be changed. Kernel panics may cause the fan to whirl a lot, but it's not going to matter because when your Mac throws a kernel panic, you can't use it. Under Linux this works slightly differently because it can also throw what is called a kernel oops, which means the kernel runs after killing the offending processes, however this can lead to further instabilities which may eventually cause a full kernel panic, so this is where the confusion may arise. OS X will display a multilingual error message telling you to reboot until your computer restarts, or it will reboot on its own depending on your preference. Anyway, I digress. Bottom line is that the option to automatically reboot under Lion seems to be optional, and not set by default. In this case, you may experience high fan activity but in either scenario, Mac OS X is unusable because of the error encountered. Regards, Nicolai On Jul 4, 2012, at 7:33 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Nic I will top post here; so as to make it easy for you to quickly read my reply. I don't claim to be anywhere close to your level of expertise when it comes to the oS. But I have read that a Kernel Panic can cause high fan activity. I agree with your description of a Kernel Panic in comparison to the dreaded Blue Screen that Windows users will know so well. Perhaps my description was a little inaccurate and, if so, I apologise most humbly for that. ;-) Lynne On 4 Jul 2012, at 13:37, Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lynne, Depending on what application he used to play music (we'll assume iTunes,) some processes in OS X sometimes run very resource-hungry tasks. One resource to watch out for in particular is mdworker. What this stands for is Metadata Server worker and it ensures that your files are Indexed using Spotlight, and is the core technology behind the search engine. It generates its index using metadata making it possible to find files instantaneously using Spotlight. It's very much known to take up a lot of CPU, so this is probably what happened. It tends to really start working when you, for instance, plug in an external hard drive. Keep in mind that it tries to index all of the new files that it discovers, so depending on the new files found it may take longer than you expect. Also depending on the workload it will work harder, but the high CPU usage is totally normal. Other processes may increase your CPU usage, like Voiceover, but if VoiceOver does this often you need to do some t ro ubleshooting. VoiceOVer is designed to hardly eat up any resources. You can review the CPU usage of your processes through /Applications/Utilities/Activity Monitor.app or by using Terminal commands. A kernel panic is something entirely different and actually causes your Mac to freeze, and even third party programs can cause this, although kernel panics should be extremely rare. it is an internal fatal error for which your operating system cannot recover, and is often related to hardware problems though some software particularly in the operating system itself may trigger the behaviour. It's a safety mechanism which aims to prevent data corruption and the risk of data breaches, and attempts to facilitate a diagnosis of the error. For those familiar with Windows, this is what most users even consumers call the blue screen, or Bug check. Regards, Nicolai On Jul 4, 2012, at 1:22 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Josh and Sarah There are occasions where you can run into what I believe is a Panic at a very low level. These Panics or Kernel Panics can cause symptoms such as the fan speed increasing or hard drive access becoming sluggish. In a lot of cases, you can help your Mac recover from these Panics by simply shutting it down and then restarting. I'm lead to believe that some or all of these Panics are logged and can be sent to Apple as a report. Of course, somebody may know better than I; in fact they probably do. But having read a lot of stuff on Apple's technical pages I think this is the kind of situation you're running into. Lynne On 4 Jul 2012, at 02:18, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Is it anything to seriously worry about? Like will anything happen to my mac from it? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/.
