Re: SOS with mail in ML please

[Daniela Rubio]

Hi again:
Sory to keep on with this, but I still have problems with my accounts. I tried 
to do as you said, but I can't find the mail folder order my library. Is it 
hidden to something? I am still not able to delete the data and mail is messing 
the accounts. Than you again for your help, may be, can you send me an alias 
for the folder where you say to delete data from?
Thanks!

El 06/08/2012, a las 22:07, Sarah Alawami  escribió:

> Hello. I just had to do this. quit mail then go to ~/library/mail/v2 and del 
> your rail account plus mail data and inboxes folders and let it recreate the 
> account or accounts. don't forget to empty the trash before you do this and 
> do a tm back up in case you  mess up.
> 
> Set the accounts up in headers so you can choose one every time you send a 
> message or drag the accounts in the order you want to in accounts under mail 
> prefs.
> 
> Take care.
> On Aug 6, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Daniela Rubio  wrote:
> 
>>  Hello all!
>> See if some one can gel with this! ;(I am using ML, and mail is getting me 
>> creaky . I send mails from one account, and they are sent trough an other 
>> one. If it is a group, this is a mess!
>> Also, my 2 gmail accounts say that the SMTP server has no connection, and I 
>> just can't reconnect them. Any ideas for fixing this?
>> I  al ready deleted the 2 gmail accounts and mail still remembers the one 
>> that it wants to use fro everything.
>> Is there a way to reset mail data? Can I do something with Terminal?
>> Take care and thank you very much!
>> Saludos, Daniela Rubio.
>> 
>> El 06/08/2012, a las 19:04, Sarah Alawami  escribió:
>> 
>>> Hmm in that case how do you remove those entries as mine is also getting a 
>>> bit crowded as well especially for some of my pdf files. lol!
>>> 
>>> The poster asked how not to make a file open in iTunes every time so I gave 
>>> the info dialogue as that's what i use. I changed every mp3 to open in vlc. 
>>> or cog or what ever I want to use for the next few months.
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>> On Aug 6, 2012, at 9:33 AM, "David Griffith"  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 I think what is being asked to how to remove entries in the list. I have
 this problem also as nisus Writer Pro has inserted itself into every open
 with dialogue box, even media files for some reason. So I used to use for
 example switch media converter from the open with dialogue but the various
 Nisus pro options have now crowded out the possibility of having Switch as
 an open with option. As I never use media files with Nisus Writer Pro I 
 need
 to get rid of those entries in order to allow the space for Switch to
 reappear as an option.  Clearly though making Switch the default program
 would not be appropriate here.
 David Griffith
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
 Sent: 06 August 2012 17:18
 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Uninstalling apps and file type actions.
 
 to set your default action hit cmd I on the file then go to open with and
 then in the pop up button choose your program then go to change all. This 
 is
 the easiest way of opening files with a default program that I can think
 of.. I'll let someone lee handle your other question as I'm just a bit
 confused this morning.
 On Aug 6, 2012, at 1:18 AM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
 
> I've worked out the difference between apps I can copy out of the archive
 and paste in applications or utilities and the more complex apps with there
 own more windows like installers but I've come across a few things I'm
 ignorant of in regard to uninstalation and the like.
> 
> When I use open with for media files, I have vlc show up 3 times. 2
 versions of the newest and 1 previous version. The previous version is in
 the trash but is still showing up in open with. How can I get rid of the
 duplication and older version and I guess, is there a method of
 uninstalation of basic apps like this and or the more complex apps? 
> 
> Also, I here that you can move apps to different folders etc but that
 since lion this isn't a good idea and esp now that the app store has come
 along. What if any of this is true or relevant?
> 
> I've looked but can't find where to set default actions for file types.
 Where do I set default programs to play certain file types and, please tell
 me there is a way I can stop iTunes from playing every media file I 
 download
 automatically.
> 
> Thanks for any help and more than happy to take answers off list.
> 
> Kindest regards,
> Danny:
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Fleksy

[Chris (gmail)]

Hello all.
Some of you may be using this app already, but thought I would spread 
the word about it now a major new update has hit the app store. To find 
out more, click on the following link.

http://fleksy.com/2012/08/09/fleksy-major-update-now-free-to-try/
Happy typing!
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Re: Fleksy

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

yeah, I've used it. I'm slightly impressed, but not enough to use it whenever I 
type. I text often, so I usually just end up sliding to reply when it comes in 
on the lock screen and typing away. That's more convenient than waiting for 
Fleksy to load more times than I think it should, especially because they told 
me that it only will when you reboot the phone. It doesn't though.

So, that's my biggest gripe so far. The new update does work quite well, and 
it's a nice solution for typing and would be great if Apple decided to 
implement this as an alternative input method, but I can't be bothered to wait 
for it to load or bring it up to type what I want then switch back to Messages. 
If it could integrate with threads so you could select which one to attach the 
text to, then I'd love it. Even when I turn VoiceOVer off and type regularly, I 
still can't type as fast as Fleksy allows me to type.

Regards,
Nicolai
On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Chris (gmail)  wrote:

> Hello all.
> Some of you may be using this app already, but thought I would spread the 
> word about it now a major new update has hit the app store. To find out more, 
> click on the following link.
> http://fleksy.com/2012/08/09/fleksy-major-update-now-free-to-try/
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Re: Fleksy

[Chris (gmail)]

Did you know that you can leave the app running and not only will it 
save loading time it will have no affect on the battery. Did you also 
know that once you have typed your text and you press and hold the 
screen above the keyboard you can double tap message and use the text 
directly in a new message? You can also reply to messages directly so 
long as the message was originally sent with Fleksy. Hope these all help.


On 10/08/2012 11:43, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

Hi,

yeah, I've used it. I'm slightly impressed, but not enough to use it whenever I 
type. I text often, so I usually just end up sliding to reply when it comes in 
on the lock screen and typing away. That's more convenient than waiting for 
Fleksy to load more times than I think it should, especially because they told 
me that it only will when you reboot the phone. It doesn't though.

So, that's my biggest gripe so far. The new update does work quite well, and 
it's a nice solution for typing and would be great if Apple decided to 
implement this as an alternative input method, but I can't be bothered to wait 
for it to load or bring it up to type what I want then switch back to Messages. 
If it could integrate with threads so you could select which one to attach the 
text to, then I'd love it. Even when I turn VoiceOVer off and type regularly, I 
still can't type as fast as Fleksy allows me to type.

Regards,
Nicolai
On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Chris (gmail)  wrote:


Hello all.
Some of you may be using this app already, but thought I would spread the word 
about it now a major new update has hit the app store. To find out more, click 
on the following link.
http://fleksy.com/2012/08/09/fleksy-major-update-now-free-to-try/
Happy typing!
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Re: Fleksy

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

Yes, I do know that. That's what I'm doing, but sometimes when I seem to need 
it most it still loads even when running for me. Of course, that may depend on 
the application state of Fleksy, because potentially inactive apps may 
sometimes quit.

Practically everyone I know is sighted, or don't have iPhones, so even though 
Fleksy would be useful for sighted people too as I explained in a second 
message, no one here is really using it. This is partly because Fleksy 
currently has no international dictionaries, though I know they're working on 
it. So, even when I text internationally and Fleksy is useful, I still have to 
go into a separate message since it doesn't seem to integrate with iMessage. 
So, I like Fleksy because even without VoiceOver I can type faster than I can 
on the regular keyboard because I don't have to be quite as accurate, but 
switch to another application to send messages to people. This isn't a 
particular problem, just not always worth it for me unless I'm the one texting 
first.

Regards,
Nicolai
On Aug 10, 2012, at 1:19 PM, "Chris (gmail)"  wrote:

> Did you know that you can leave the app running and not only will it save 
> loading time it will have no affect on the battery. Did you also know that 
> once you have typed your text and you press and hold the screen above the 
> keyboard you can double tap message and use the text directly in a new 
> message? You can also reply to messages directly so long as the message was 
> originally sent with Fleksy. Hope these all help.
> 
> On 10/08/2012 11:43, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> yeah, I've used it. I'm slightly impressed, but not enough to use it 
>> whenever I type. I text often, so I usually just end up sliding to reply 
>> when it comes in on the lock screen and typing away. That's more convenient 
>> than waiting for Fleksy to load more times than I think it should, 
>> especially because they told me that it only will when you reboot the phone. 
>> It doesn't though.
>> 
>> So, that's my biggest gripe so far. The new update does work quite well, and 
>> it's a nice solution for typing and would be great if Apple decided to 
>> implement this as an alternative input method, but I can't be bothered to 
>> wait for it to load or bring it up to type what I want then switch back to 
>> Messages. If it could integrate with threads so you could select which one 
>> to attach the text to, then I'd love it. Even when I turn VoiceOVer off and 
>> type regularly, I still can't type as fast as Fleksy allows me to type.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Nicolai
>> On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Chris (gmail)  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all.
>>> Some of you may be using this app already, but thought I would spread the 
>>> word about it now a major new update has hit the app store. To find out 
>>> more, click on the following link.
>>> http://fleksy.com/2012/08/09/fleksy-major-update-now-free-to-try/
>>> Happy typing!
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Re: Fleksy

[Andrea Breier]

You do have to admit that the fleksy developers did do a major update.  And 
it is obvious that they were listening to their customers.  Short of adding 
their keyboard to
Apple's operating system, which they can't do, most things were addressed. 
I really like it that people can now try out how the keyboard works before 
having to purchase the app.  I personally know some people who bought it and 
are not able to use it.  Good work  over all Fleksy!!!


Hugs,
Andrea M. Breier
-Original Message- 
From: Chris (gmail)

Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 6:19 AM
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Fleksy

Did you know that you can leave the app running and not only will it
save loading time it will have no affect on the battery. Did you also
know that once you have typed your text and you press and hold the
screen above the keyboard you can double tap message and use the text
directly in a new message? You can also reply to messages directly so
long as the message was originally sent with Fleksy. Hope these all help.

On 10/08/2012 11:43, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

Hi,

yeah, I've used it. I'm slightly impressed, but not enough to use it 
whenever I type. I text often, so I usually just end up sliding to reply 
when it comes in on the lock screen and typing away. That's more 
convenient than waiting for Fleksy to load more times than I think it 
should, especially because they told me that it only will when you reboot 
the phone. It doesn't though.


So, that's my biggest gripe so far. The new update does work quite well, 
and it's a nice solution for typing and would be great if Apple decided to 
implement this as an alternative input method, but I can't be bothered to 
wait for it to load or bring it up to type what I want then switch back to 
Messages. If it could integrate with threads so you could select which one 
to attach the text to, then I'd love it. Even when I turn VoiceOVer off 
and type regularly, I still can't type as fast as Fleksy allows me to 
type.


Regards,
Nicolai
On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Chris (gmail)  
wrote:



Hello all.
Some of you may be using this app already, but thought I would spread the 
word about it now a major new update has hit the app store. To find out 
more, click on the following link.

http://fleksy.com/2012/08/09/fleksy-major-update-now-free-to-try/
Happy typing!
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Re: Fleksy

[Chris (gmail)]

I know what you mean. Sometimes I send messages from the messages app, 
other times I use Fleksy or even TypeInBraille. Just depends on what I 
feel like grins.


On 10/08/2012 13:07, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

Hi,

Yes, I do know that. That's what I'm doing, but sometimes when I seem to need 
it most it still loads even when running for me. Of course, that may depend on 
the application state of Fleksy, because potentially inactive apps may 
sometimes quit.

Practically everyone I know is sighted, or don't have iPhones, so even though 
Fleksy would be useful for sighted people too as I explained in a second 
message, no one here is really using it. This is partly because Fleksy 
currently has no international dictionaries, though I know they're working on 
it. So, even when I text internationally and Fleksy is useful, I still have to 
go into a separate message since it doesn't seem to integrate with iMessage. 
So, I like Fleksy because even without VoiceOver I can type faster than I can 
on the regular keyboard because I don't have to be quite as accurate, but 
switch to another application to send messages to people. This isn't a 
particular problem, just not always worth it for me unless I'm the one texting 
first.

Regards,
Nicolai
On Aug 10, 2012, at 1:19 PM, "Chris (gmail)"  wrote:


Did you know that you can leave the app running and not only will it save 
loading time it will have no affect on the battery. Did you also know that once 
you have typed your text and you press and hold the screen above the keyboard 
you can double tap message and use the text directly in a new message? You can 
also reply to messages directly so long as the message was originally sent with 
Fleksy. Hope these all help.

On 10/08/2012 11:43, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

Hi,

yeah, I've used it. I'm slightly impressed, but not enough to use it whenever I 
type. I text often, so I usually just end up sliding to reply when it comes in 
on the lock screen and typing away. That's more convenient than waiting for 
Fleksy to load more times than I think it should, especially because they told 
me that it only will when you reboot the phone. It doesn't though.

So, that's my biggest gripe so far. The new update does work quite well, and 
it's a nice solution for typing and would be great if Apple decided to 
implement this as an alternative input method, but I can't be bothered to wait 
for it to load or bring it up to type what I want then switch back to Messages. 
If it could integrate with threads so you could select which one to attach the 
text to, then I'd love it. Even when I turn VoiceOVer off and type regularly, I 
still can't type as fast as Fleksy allows me to type.

Regards,
Nicolai
On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Chris (gmail)  wrote:


Hello all.
Some of you may be using this app already, but thought I would spread the word 
about it now a major new update has hit the app store. To find out more, click 
on the following link.
http://fleksy.com/2012/08/09/fleksy-major-update-now-free-to-try/
Happy typing!
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Re: Email clients

[matthew Dyer]

Hi,  Mail is the only one that I am aware of.  I love apple mail, but have 
been a thunderbyrd in windows.  What a shame that it is not accessible.

Matthew


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On Aug 9, 2012, at 10:07 PM, Mike Maslo wrote:

> Hi everyone:
> 
> I was wondering if there was another email client that is accessible with 
> voice over outside of apple mail?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
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Re: Dropbox install process not working

[Gordon Smith]

Hi Eric

You missed one important step in the process I think.  After stopping the 
DropBox process, deleting the app, you didn't restart your machine.

I've found this to be important.  Remember also that, if you upgraded Mountain 
Lion from Lion, your existing app settings would stick, as long as they are 
compatible.

Gordon

On 10 Aug 2012, at 04:18, Eric Caron  wrote:

Hi Listers,

I've followed the Dropbox tips carefully over the past discussions and 
used them successfully in the past.  today I installed Mountain Lion on my Mini 
and dropbox is not sinking.  it claims it does not have permission.

I stopped the Dropbox process in Activity Monitor.  I deleted the app 
completely from my mini and then ran the DMG of Dropbox from my desktop.  Also 
later I repeated and ran it from my downloads.  I tried both version 1.5 and 
1.4.

In all cases I got the dreaded Dropbox has no windows.  I was never asked for 
my sign in criteria.

I successfully followed this process and got Dropbox working on my Mac Book 
Pro.  So I'm surprised the same process is not working on the mini.

Tips would be greatly appreciated.

eric Caron 


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Re: Email clients

[Travis Siegel]

There are several.
gnumail works almost exactly like apple mail and even comes with  
source if you like that sort of thing (I do) I don't know if it works  
on the later versions of ox, since I don't have them, but when I  
tested it on tiger/leopard, it worked just fine.


There's another one I can't remember at the moment I tested, that  
also worked well with voiceover, though it had some quirks that made  
it a bit of a pain.
Doing a google search on osx mail clients turns up several, none of  
which I've tested,  other than the two I mentioned above, one of  
which I can't remember.  I know this isn't  much help, but I did want  
to alert folks to the fact that thre are other alternatives to apple  
mail, so hope this helps anyway, even though it's a bit sparse on  
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Re: Dropbox install process not working

[Eric Caron]

Hi Gordon,

Thanks very much for your help with this Dropbox mystery.  I repeated 
the steps again and this time restarted my computer.  I then ran the Dropbox 
installer 1.5.8.  Sadly it acted the same way.  It never asked me if I had a 
account or needed to open one.  It just did Dropbox has no windows.

Earlier today before getting the tip to restart I had a sighted visitor so 
asked him to try.  Even when he followed the sighted instructions it got to the 
point where it had no info and never asked for my user name and password.  

I used this same installer on my new Mac book Pro and the old Mac Book 
following the process and it worked fine.

Any tips on what I can try with the Mini is appreciated.

Everything else seems fine on the Mini at the moment.  The Mountain Lion update 
was done only yesterday. 

I actually rely on DropBox so it is difficult not having it working on 
this machine.

I'll probably try the 1.4 version again but don't think that will make a 
difference. 

Again, tips wanted!

Eric Caron 

On Aug 10, 2012, at 1:20 PM, Gordon Smith  wrote:

> Hi Eric
> 
> You missed one important step in the process I think.  After stopping the 
> DropBox process, deleting the app, you didn't restart your machine.
> 
> I've found this to be important.  Remember also that, if you upgraded 
> Mountain Lion from Lion, your existing app settings would stick, as long as 
> they are compatible.
> 
> Gordon
> 
> On 10 Aug 2012, at 04:18, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
> Hi Listers,
> 
>   I've followed the Dropbox tips carefully over the past discussions and 
> used them successfully in the past.  today I installed Mountain Lion on my 
> Mini and dropbox is not sinking.  it claims it does not have permission.
> 
> I stopped the Dropbox process in Activity Monitor.  I deleted the app 
> completely from my mini and then ran the DMG of Dropbox from my desktop.  
> Also later I repeated and ran it from my downloads.  I tried both version 1.5 
> and 1.4.
> 
> In all cases I got the dreaded Dropbox has no windows.  I was never asked for 
> my sign in criteria.
> 
> I successfully followed this process and got Dropbox working on my Mac Book 
> Pro.  So I'm surprised the same process is not working on the mini.
> 
> Tips would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> eric Caron 
> 
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Re: Fleksy

[Sean Murphy]

Hello All.

I think the App is a good solution. The only problem I have is that my hands 
are to large to do proper  touch typing when using my IPhone4. 
Still need to play with it more with and without my case to see if there is a 
better experience.


Sean On 11/08/2012, at 12:52 AM, Chris (gmail) wrote:

> I know what you mean. Sometimes I send messages from the messages app, other 
> times I use Fleksy or even TypeInBraille. Just depends on what I feel like 
> grins.
> 
> On 10/08/2012 13:07, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Yes, I do know that. That's what I'm doing, but sometimes when I seem to 
>> need it most it still loads even when running for me. Of course, that may 
>> depend on the application state of Fleksy, because potentially inactive apps 
>> may sometimes quit.
>> 
>> Practically everyone I know is sighted, or don't have iPhones, so even 
>> though Fleksy would be useful for sighted people too as I explained in a 
>> second message, no one here is really using it. This is partly because 
>> Fleksy currently has no international dictionaries, though I know they're 
>> working on it. So, even when I text internationally and Fleksy is useful, I 
>> still have to go into a separate message since it doesn't seem to integrate 
>> with iMessage. So, I like Fleksy because even without VoiceOver I can type 
>> faster than I can on the regular keyboard because I don't have to be quite 
>> as accurate, but switch to another application to send messages to people. 
>> This isn't a particular problem, just not always worth it for me unless I'm 
>> the one texting first.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Nicolai
>> On Aug 10, 2012, at 1:19 PM, "Chris (gmail)"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Did you know that you can leave the app running and not only will it save 
>>> loading time it will have no affect on the battery. Did you also know that 
>>> once you have typed your text and you press and hold the screen above the 
>>> keyboard you can double tap message and use the text directly in a new 
>>> message? You can also reply to messages directly so long as the message was 
>>> originally sent with Fleksy. Hope these all help.
>>> 
>>> On 10/08/2012 11:43, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 yeah, I've used it. I'm slightly impressed, but not enough to use it 
 whenever I type. I text often, so I usually just end up sliding to reply 
 when it comes in on the lock screen and typing away. That's more 
 convenient than waiting for Fleksy to load more times than I think it 
 should, especially because they told me that it only will when you reboot 
 the phone. It doesn't though.
 
 So, that's my biggest gripe so far. The new update does work quite well, 
 and it's a nice solution for typing and would be great if Apple decided to 
 implement this as an alternative input method, but I can't be bothered to 
 wait for it to load or bring it up to type what I want then switch back to 
 Messages. If it could integrate with threads so you could select which one 
 to attach the text to, then I'd love it. Even when I turn VoiceOVer off 
 and type regularly, I still can't type as fast as Fleksy allows me to type.
 
 Regards,
 Nicolai
 On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Chris (gmail)  
 wrote:
 
> Hello all.
> Some of you may be using this app already, but thought I would spread the 
> word about it now a major new update has hit the app store. To find out 
> more, click on the following link.
> http://fleksy.com/2012/08/09/fleksy-major-update-now-free-to-try/
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Re: Apple Hot News in Mail

[Bryan Jones]

Hi Paul,

The folks at Apple removed the handy RSS feature from Mail in ML. You can use a 
third party RSS reader or maybe try the Safari extension mentioned at this link:
http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/2624/subscribe-to-feed-safari-extension

Also, here's a tip if you upgraded from Lion to ML and you want to try 
retrieving your previous Mail RSS feeds to import into a different reader:
http://www.macgasm.net/2012/07/30/tip-find-your-deleted-rss-feeds-in-mountain-lions-mail-app/

HTH,
Bryan

On Aug 10, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
> When I was on Lion I had a mail box entitled Apple Hot News which was 
> periodically updated with Email announcements from Apple. After updating to 
> Mountain Lion this handy mail box has disappeared. How can I get it bacK? It 
> might have been an RSS feed. 

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Re: Fleksy

[Ian McNamara]

I just use one finger to type with Fleksy. I love it a lot and it's a fantastic 
app.

Ian McNamara
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KeyRemap4MacBook and NumPad discoveries for laptops running VO

[Esther]

Hello All,

> I was experimenting while drafting a reply to Phil's question about double
> clicking and right clicking, and came across an interesting side behavior
> from the application KeyRemap4MacBook that allows me to use the NumPad
> Commander key definitions, including combinations with modifier keys, on a
> laptop. For background information, this software is shareware (free, but
> donations suggested if you find it useful), and can be used to remap
> keyboard keys.  While many people who have installed VMWare Fusion to run
> Windows under a virtual machine used Sharp Keys to remap keys under the
> Windows guest system, others have use Fusion's preferences, and still
> others have used KeyRemap4MacBook.  The distinction is that
> KeyRemap4MacBook is a Mac-based program (while Fusion's preferences take
> effect only within the virtual machines, which might be Linux, Windows,
> etc.; and Sharp Keys is a Windows registry hack that only works for the
> Windows VM). KeyRemap4Macbook (hereafter, KR4MB) can also be used for
> general Mac keyboard remapping, to support different language
> implementations, etc.  For example, I think someone has used this to remap
> the right Command key to be a Control key, so that the bottom row gives
> you VO keys on both sides of the space bar. Just a warning that this is
> going to be a long post, and may be primarily of interest to those
> interested in the technical side of working their Macs.  I'm hoping to
> enlist some assistance in checking out what I hope are new capabilities
> for laptop Mac users.
> 
> The interesting discovery is that when you download and install KR4MB on
> Mac laptops, by default you gain access to the embedded number pad in the
> right hand side of the keyboard when you press the "Fn" key in combination
> with these keys.  So, if I want to enter a series of numbers, holding down
> the "Fn" key and pressing "j k l" generates "1 2 3", while holding down
> the "Fn" key and pressing "u i o" generates "4 5 6".  This is exactly the
> way things worked on the PowerPC laptop keyboards and the early Intel
> MacBooks (before year's end 2008).  You could access the embedded numeric
> keypad -- both numbers and math operation characters -- either by toggling
> on the "NumLock" function of the F6 key, or by pressing "Fn" with each key
> without having to toggle on "NumLock".
> 
> The even more interesting discovery is that you can use the embedded
> numeric keypad with the Fn key to generate the NumPad Commander
> combinations, including the ones with modifier keys like "Command",
> "Option", "Control", or "Shift", if you turn on NumPad Commander by
> checking the box for "Enable NumPad Commander" under the "Commanders" menu
> of VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8). In fact, if you turn on keyboard help mode
> with VO-k and press the keys on the right hand side of the keyboard where
> the embedded number pad would be on the old laptops, together with the
> "Fn" key and modifiers, VoiceOver will identify the corresponding NumPad
> Commander operation that is currently bound to that combination.
> 
> For background, over two years ago there was a discussion on this list
> about being able to use the unmodified NumPad Commander keyboard shortcuts
> on a laptop if you press the number key from the top row on the keyboard
> in place of the corresponding NumPad key together with an arrow key.
> Again, NumPad Commander must be enabled in VoiceOver Utility for this to
> work. I think that Sarah, at least, takes advantage of this on her laptop.
> (The trick is to find an arrow key to press that doesn't also move focus
> while you use these combinations.)  I'll give the link to the old
> discussion in the list archives, since this predates the use of the Mail
> Archive with its search facilities, and I went back to read up on this.
> There were some truly odd aspects of the way this worked. For one thing, I
> could run the default unmodified NumPad Commander definitions on my 12" G4
> PowerBook under Tiger (Mac OS X 10.4), which still had a working embedded
> Numeric Keypad, even though  NumPad Commander was not introduced until
> Leopard (Mac OS X 10.5).  Anne could press the top row keys in combination
> with arrow keys on a French keyboard to get these sequences, even though
> on a French keyboard typing the numbers by themselves in the top row of
> keys requires pressing the "Shift" key. Here's the old discussion archive
> link:
> 
> Keyboard Shortcuts from NumPad Commander without a NumPad:
> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/2010/000101.html
> 
> As far as I can tell so far, using KR4MB does not produce any bad side
> effects for VoiceOver use.  Even without using the NumPad Commander
> definitions it appears useful to have an alternate way to enter numbers.
> When KR4MB is installed the combination of pressing a number from the top
> row of keys and an arrow key no longer seems to generate the unmodified
> NumPad Commander operation for that number key

Re: Fleksy

[Andrea Breier]

You do not have to type two handed.  You can just use one finger to touch 
where you think the letters should be, then swipe to the right to listed to 
what it thinks you put.  It it is wrong, but close, you can flick down 
through a list of choices.




Hugs,
Andrea M. Breier
-Original Message- 
From: Sean Murphy

Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 6:17 PM
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Fleksy

Hello All.

I think the App is a good solution. The only problem I have is that my hands 
are to large to do proper  touch typing when using my IPhone4.
Still need to play with it more with and without my case to see if there is 
a better experience.



Sean On 11/08/2012, at 12:52 AM, Chris (gmail) wrote:

I know what you mean. Sometimes I send messages from the messages app, 
other times I use Fleksy or even TypeInBraille. Just depends on what I 
feel like grins.


On 10/08/2012 13:07, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

Hi,

Yes, I do know that. That's what I'm doing, but sometimes when I seem to 
need it most it still loads even when running for me. Of course, that may 
depend on the application state of Fleksy, because potentially inactive 
apps may sometimes quit.


Practically everyone I know is sighted, or don't have iPhones, so even 
though Fleksy would be useful for sighted people too as I explained in a 
second message, no one here is really using it. This is partly because 
Fleksy currently has no international dictionaries, though I know they're 
working on it. So, even when I text internationally and Fleksy is useful, 
I still have to go into a separate message since it doesn't seem to 
integrate with iMessage. So, I like Fleksy because even without VoiceOver 
I can type faster than I can on the regular keyboard because I don't have 
to be quite as accurate, but switch to another application to send 
messages to people. This isn't a particular problem, just not always 
worth it for me unless I'm the one texting first.


Regards,
Nicolai
On Aug 10, 2012, at 1:19 PM, "Chris (gmail)"  
wrote:


Did you know that you can leave the app running and not only will it 
save loading time it will have no affect on the battery. Did you also 
know that once you have typed your text and you press and hold the 
screen above the keyboard you can double tap message and use the text 
directly in a new message? You can also reply to messages directly so 
long as the message was originally sent with Fleksy. Hope these all 
help.


On 10/08/2012 11:43, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

Hi,

yeah, I've used it. I'm slightly impressed, but not enough to use it 
whenever I type. I text often, so I usually just end up sliding to 
reply when it comes in on the lock screen and typing away. That's more 
convenient than waiting for Fleksy to load more times than I think it 
should, especially because they told me that it only will when you 
reboot the phone. It doesn't though.


So, that's my biggest gripe so far. The new update does work quite 
well, and it's a nice solution for typing and would be great if Apple 
decided to implement this as an alternative input method, but I can't 
be bothered to wait for it to load or bring it up to type what I want 
then switch back to Messages. If it could integrate with threads so you 
could select which one to attach the text to, then I'd love it. Even 
when I turn VoiceOVer off and type regularly, I still can't type as 
fast as Fleksy allows me to type.


Regards,
Nicolai
On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Chris (gmail)  
wrote:



Hello all.
Some of you may be using this app already, but thought I would spread 
the word about it now a major new update has hit the app store. To 
find out more, click on the following link.

http://fleksy.com/2012/08/09/fleksy-major-update-now-free-to-try/
Happy typing!
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Re: Fleksy

[Rose Waagan]

I don't think anyone does proper touch typing with the iPhone. Sighted people 
might have a go at it with their phones in landscape, but I can't imagine that 
being too enjoyable. As for me, I type with two fingers. I use one from each 
hand. Most people who type this way use two thumbs. I use my left index finger 
and my right thumb. Might sound a bit weird, but I like how I can almost hold 
the phone in one hand. 
Hope that helps. 
rose

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 10, 2012, at 5:32 PM, "Andrea Breier"  wrote:

> You do not have to type two handed.  You can just use one finger to touch 
> where you think the letters should be, then swipe to the right to listed to 
> what it thinks you put.  It it is wrong, but close, you can flick down 
> through a list of choices.
> 
> 
> 
> Hugs,
> Andrea M. Breier
> -Original Message- From: Sean Murphy
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 6:17 PM
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Fleksy
> 
> Hello All.
> 
> I think the App is a good solution. The only problem I have is that my hands 
> are to large to do proper  touch typing when using my IPhone4.
> Still need to play with it more with and without my case to see if there is a 
> better experience.
> 
> 
> Sean On 11/08/2012, at 12:52 AM, Chris (gmail) wrote:
> 
>> I know what you mean. Sometimes I send messages from the messages app, other 
>> times I use Fleksy or even TypeInBraille. Just depends on what I feel like 
>> grins.
>> 
>> On 10/08/2012 13:07, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Yes, I do know that. That's what I'm doing, but sometimes when I seem to 
>>> need it most it still loads even when running for me. Of course, that may 
>>> depend on the application state of Fleksy, because potentially inactive 
>>> apps may sometimes quit.
>>> 
>>> Practically everyone I know is sighted, or don't have iPhones, so even 
>>> though Fleksy would be useful for sighted people too as I explained in a 
>>> second message, no one here is really using it. This is partly because 
>>> Fleksy currently has no international dictionaries, though I know they're 
>>> working on it. So, even when I text internationally and Fleksy is useful, I 
>>> still have to go into a separate message since it doesn't seem to integrate 
>>> with iMessage. So, I like Fleksy because even without VoiceOver I can type 
>>> faster than I can on the regular keyboard because I don't have to be quite 
>>> as accurate, but switch to another application to send messages to people. 
>>> This isn't a particular problem, just not always worth it for me unless I'm 
>>> the one texting first.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Nicolai
>>> On Aug 10, 2012, at 1:19 PM, "Chris (gmail)"  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Did you know that you can leave the app running and not only will it save 
 loading time it will have no affect on the battery. Did you also know that 
 once you have typed your text and you press and hold the screen above the 
 keyboard you can double tap message and use the text directly in a new 
 message? You can also reply to messages directly so long as the message 
 was originally sent with Fleksy. Hope these all help.
 
 On 10/08/2012 11:43, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> yeah, I've used it. I'm slightly impressed, but not enough to use it 
> whenever I type. I text often, so I usually just end up sliding to reply 
> when it comes in on the lock screen and typing away. That's more 
> convenient than waiting for Fleksy to load more times than I think it 
> should, especially because they told me that it only will when you reboot 
> the phone. It doesn't though.
> 
> So, that's my biggest gripe so far. The new update does work quite well, 
> and it's a nice solution for typing and would be great if Apple decided 
> to implement this as an alternative input method, but I can't be bothered 
> to wait for it to load or bring it up to type what I want then switch 
> back to Messages. If it could integrate with threads so you could select 
> which one to attach the text to, then I'd love it. Even when I turn 
> VoiceOVer off and type regularly, I still can't type as fast as Fleksy 
> allows me to type.
> 
> Regards,
> Nicolai
> On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Chris (gmail)  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello all.
>> Some of you may be using this app already, but thought I would spread 
>> the word about it now a major new update has hit the app store. To find 
>> out more, click on the following link.
>> http://fleksy.com/2012/08/09/fleksy-major-update-now-free-to-try/
>> Happy typing!
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>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>> 
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>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
>> 

Braille display grades

[Sean Murphy]

Hi All.


I have just discovered the Mac does not support Computer Braille Grade 0. It 
supports English grade 1 USA, UK and Unicode. But you do not get Computer grade 
braille USA or British. I prefer USa Computer Grade Braille when reading 
computer related information.

Any ideas on resolving this?


Sean 
On 11/08/2012, at 10:18 AM, Esther wrote:

> Hello All,
> 
>> I was experimenting while drafting a reply to Phil's question about double
>> clicking and right clicking, and came across an interesting side behavior
>> from the application KeyRemap4MacBook that allows me to use the NumPad
>> Commander key definitions, including combinations with modifier keys, on a
>> laptop. For background information, this software is shareware (free, but
>> donations suggested if you find it useful), and can be used to remap
>> keyboard keys.  While many people who have installed VMWare Fusion to run
>> Windows under a virtual machine used Sharp Keys to remap keys under the
>> Windows guest system, others have use Fusion's preferences, and still
>> others have used KeyRemap4MacBook.  The distinction is that
>> KeyRemap4MacBook is a Mac-based program (while Fusion's preferences take
>> effect only within the virtual machines, which might be Linux, Windows,
>> etc.; and Sharp Keys is a Windows registry hack that only works for the
>> Windows VM). KeyRemap4Macbook (hereafter, KR4MB) can also be used for
>> general Mac keyboard remapping, to support different language
>> implementations, etc.  For example, I think someone has used this to remap
>> the right Command key to be a Control key, so that the bottom row gives
>> you VO keys on both sides of the space bar. Just a warning that this is
>> going to be a long post, and may be primarily of interest to those
>> interested in the technical side of working their Macs.  I'm hoping to
>> enlist some assistance in checking out what I hope are new capabilities
>> for laptop Mac users.
>> 
>> The interesting discovery is that when you download and install KR4MB on
>> Mac laptops, by default you gain access to the embedded number pad in the
>> right hand side of the keyboard when you press the "Fn" key in combination
>> with these keys.  So, if I want to enter a series of numbers, holding down
>> the "Fn" key and pressing "j k l" generates "1 2 3", while holding down
>> the "Fn" key and pressing "u i o" generates "4 5 6".  This is exactly the
>> way things worked on the PowerPC laptop keyboards and the early Intel
>> MacBooks (before year's end 2008).  You could access the embedded numeric
>> keypad -- both numbers and math operation characters -- either by toggling
>> on the "NumLock" function of the F6 key, or by pressing "Fn" with each key
>> without having to toggle on "NumLock".
>> 
>> The even more interesting discovery is that you can use the embedded
>> numeric keypad with the Fn key to generate the NumPad Commander
>> combinations, including the ones with modifier keys like "Command",
>> "Option", "Control", or "Shift", if you turn on NumPad Commander by
>> checking the box for "Enable NumPad Commander" under the "Commanders" menu
>> of VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8). In fact, if you turn on keyboard help mode
>> with VO-k and press the keys on the right hand side of the keyboard where
>> the embedded number pad would be on the old laptops, together with the
>> "Fn" key and modifiers, VoiceOver will identify the corresponding NumPad
>> Commander operation that is currently bound to that combination.
>> 
>> For background, over two years ago there was a discussion on this list
>> about being able to use the unmodified NumPad Commander keyboard shortcuts
>> on a laptop if you press the number key from the top row on the keyboard
>> in place of the corresponding NumPad key together with an arrow key.
>> Again, NumPad Commander must be enabled in VoiceOver Utility for this to
>> work. I think that Sarah, at least, takes advantage of this on her laptop.
>> (The trick is to find an arrow key to press that doesn't also move focus
>> while you use these combinations.)  I'll give the link to the old
>> discussion in the list archives, since this predates the use of the Mail
>> Archive with its search facilities, and I went back to read up on this.
>> There were some truly odd aspects of the way this worked. For one thing, I
>> could run the default unmodified NumPad Commander definitions on my 12" G4
>> PowerBook under Tiger (Mac OS X 10.4), which still had a working embedded
>> Numeric Keypad, even though  NumPad Commander was not introduced until
>> Leopard (Mac OS X 10.5).  Anne could press the top row keys in combination
>> with arrow keys on a French keyboard to get these sequences, even though
>> on a French keyboard typing the numbers by themselves in the top row of
>> keys requires pressing the "Shift" key. Here's the old discussion archive
>> link:
>> 
>> Keyboard Shortcuts from NumPad Commander without a NumPad:
>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/2010/00010

Re: Fleksy

[Jane]

I use both index fingers in portrait mode. I haven't tried landscape mode.  I 
am so enjoying Fleksy, even though all I can do is type and review text right 
now.

Jane




On Aug 10, 2012, at 9:22 PM, Rose Waagan wrote:

> I don't think anyone does proper touch typing with the iPhone. Sighted people 
> might have a go at it with their phones in landscape, but I can't imagine 
> that being too enjoyable. As for me, I type with two fingers. I use one from 
> each hand. Most people who type this way use two thumbs. I use my left index 
> finger and my right thumb. Might sound a bit weird, but I like how I can 
> almost hold the phone in one hand. 
> Hope that helps. 
> rose
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 10, 2012, at 5:32 PM, "Andrea Breier"  wrote:
> 
>> You do not have to type two handed.  You can just use one finger to touch 
>> where you think the letters should be, then swipe to the right to listed to 
>> what it thinks you put.  It it is wrong, but close, you can flick down 
>> through a list of choices.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hugs,
>> Andrea M. Breier
>> -Original Message- From: Sean Murphy
>> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 6:17 PM
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Fleksy
>> 
>> Hello All.
>> 
>> I think the App is a good solution. The only problem I have is that my hands 
>> are to large to do proper  touch typing when using my IPhone4.
>> Still need to play with it more with and without my case to see if there is 
>> a better experience.
>> 
>> 
>> Sean On 11/08/2012, at 12:52 AM, Chris (gmail) wrote:
>> 
>>> I know what you mean. Sometimes I send messages from the messages app, 
>>> other times I use Fleksy or even TypeInBraille. Just depends on what I feel 
>>> like grins.
>>> 
>>> On 10/08/2012 13:07, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Yes, I do know that. That's what I'm doing, but sometimes when I seem to 
 need it most it still loads even when running for me. Of course, that may 
 depend on the application state of Fleksy, because potentially inactive 
 apps may sometimes quit.
 
 Practically everyone I know is sighted, or don't have iPhones, so even 
 though Fleksy would be useful for sighted people too as I explained in a 
 second message, no one here is really using it. This is partly because 
 Fleksy currently has no international dictionaries, though I know they're 
 working on it. So, even when I text internationally and Fleksy is useful, 
 I still have to go into a separate message since it doesn't seem to 
 integrate with iMessage. So, I like Fleksy because even without VoiceOver 
 I can type faster than I can on the regular keyboard because I don't have 
 to be quite as accurate, but switch to another application to send 
 messages to people. This isn't a particular problem, just not always worth 
 it for me unless I'm the one texting first.
 
 Regards,
 Nicolai
 On Aug 10, 2012, at 1:19 PM, "Chris (gmail)"  
 wrote:
 
> Did you know that you can leave the app running and not only will it save 
> loading time it will have no affect on the battery. Did you also know 
> that once you have typed your text and you press and hold the screen 
> above the keyboard you can double tap message and use the text directly 
> in a new message? You can also reply to messages directly so long as the 
> message was originally sent with Fleksy. Hope these all help.
> 
> On 10/08/2012 11:43, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> yeah, I've used it. I'm slightly impressed, but not enough to use it 
>> whenever I type. I text often, so I usually just end up sliding to reply 
>> when it comes in on the lock screen and typing away. That's more 
>> convenient than waiting for Fleksy to load more times than I think it 
>> should, especially because they told me that it only will when you 
>> reboot the phone. It doesn't though.
>> 
>> So, that's my biggest gripe so far. The new update does work quite well, 
>> and it's a nice solution for typing and would be great if Apple decided 
>> to implement this as an alternative input method, but I can't be 
>> bothered to wait for it to load or bring it up to type what I want then 
>> switch back to Messages. If it could integrate with threads so you could 
>> select which one to attach the text to, then I'd love it. Even when I 
>> turn VoiceOVer off and type regularly, I still can't type as fast as 
>> Fleksy allows me to type.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Nicolai
>> On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Chris (gmail)  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all.
>>> Some of you may be using this app already, but thought I would spread 
>>> the word about it now a major new update has hit the app store. To find 
>>> out more, click on the following link.
>>> http://fleksy.com/2012/08/09/fleksy-major-update-now-free-to-try/
>>> Happy typing

Upcoming GPS apps [was Re: Navigon Offline Navigation App Available for $20 off on iOS, TwoWeeks Only [Dealhacker]]

[Esther]

Hi All,

Yes, Navigon is one of the GPS apps that can be used on an iPod Touch with an 
external Bluetooth GPS receiver such as the XGPS150A from Dual Electronics or 
the Bad Elf GPS. Glenn's summary is correct, and you can check the recent list 
archives for my post in response to Lovette's question by detailing which 
external Bluetooth GPS units have been successfully used by blind or visually 
impaired users this way.

I thought I'd alert list members to a couple of recent posts on the AppleVis 
site about upcoming GPS apps.  Michael May gave a presentation at the NFB 2012 
convention in Dallas outlining an app called "The Seeing Eye" that the Sendero 
group is currently beta testing, and hopes to release later this summer.  It's 
supposed to combine the turn-by-turn direction capabilities of current main 
stream GPS apps (such as Navigon and TomTom) with additional verbalization 
features of the Sendero apps.  They state that it will be "priced 
competitively", but I don't know what that will translate into for actual 
pricing.

Secondly, the people who developed the LookTel MoneyReader and LookTel 
Recognizer apps have another GPS app in beta testing called LookTel 
Breadcrumbs.  For those of you who are familiar with the MyWay Lite or MyWay 
apps, it sounds as though Breadcrumbs works in a similar fashion to allow you 
to "drop" breadcrumbs for specific points of interest, but has more features 
and better integration between breadcrumb-based travel and route-based travel.  

GPS apps like MyWay Lite and Breadcrumbs are meant to let you navigate in areas 
where there are no street maps, such as when you are on a hiking trail, in a 
large park, or walking on an extensive college campus.  

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Safari andMountain Lion questions

[Danny Noonan]

I've asked some of these questions in a roundabout 
manner but never got any response. I do waffle so no surprise there. I'm happy 
to be lead to where the information can be found on or off list.

1, is there a way since the new safari to have it  open tabs in separate 
windows as a default action so you can command ` or command ~ between them? if 
not, is there a keyboard command to switch between tabs?
2, Is there a keyboard command to move to a block of text on a web page?
3, Is there functionality in osx to have shortcuts to go to files? Ie, can I 
have desktop icons that will take me to and open say a text file or even a 
smart folder that can show disparate items on the desktop but me still be able 
to have them in sensible paths? I'm running out of keyboard commander key 
combinations. :-)
4, I've herd of a voiceover function that seems to allow using keys to skip 
through when automatically reading. Ie, like the left and right shift skipping 
lines back or forward in jaws. If so, where do I find them?
5, I read somewhere about a book on mountain lion being discounted for members 
of this list. If so, what anywhere?

Sorry for being so nooby about all this stuff.

Kindest regards,
Danny:

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Notifications blinkers.

[Danny Noonan]

Just in case anyone else missed this, I was looking for a way to turn off 
alerts & notifications so that it wouldn't keep interrupting garage band 
recording sessions or family movie watching etc and although the check box has 
been there all along, I blanked it out. 

The beautiful thing about the show alerts and notifications check box that you 
will find as soon as you interact with the notifications table is that if you 
uncheck it, it will turn off all alerts and notifications until you check it 
again or the next day so if you forget it, no problem as that flood of dammed 
messages and the like will flood your system the next day anyway.  .
 It's a great solution and like with the do not disturb feature coming in iOs6, 
it solves a problem although adding the extra functionality of the iOs6  do not 
disturb feature  to the Mountain Lion notifications centre would be even better 
as choosing groups, time etc is a wonderful thing now it's coming to iOs6. 

One more thing I stumbled upon, even with track pad commander turned on, you 
can 2 finger swipe from the right edge of the touch pad to go straight to the 
notifications centre instead of the vo m m and vo right arrowing or end fn 
right arrow to the notifications extra menu.

Sure you guys already worked this out but it's here for the archives now and if 
not, now you do. hth.

Regards,
Danny:

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