Re: Question about Voiceover and a particular web site.
Did you try to literally interact with the button title and then click with the mouse witt Vo+Shift+space or with the trackpad, or, may be, Bringing a context menu and clicking something from there? I don't know the site, but just some other ideas. Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 22/10/2013, a las 06:38, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com escribió: Let me know what you find out, as I've gotten no other responses yet prior to your's. Chris. Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter. http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 11:25 PM Subject: Re: Question about Voiceover and a particular web site. Hmm I now a user on my server who uses squirrel mail. I can have them try and send me a test email if they are awake enough to do this evening (they are in class) I know it used to work, but maybe Im using a different version of the mail thingy. I don't know. If someone beats me to the answer that would be nice as what you did was correct in your trouble shooting procedures. Good luck. On Oct 21, 2013, at 3:01 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: Hello. My company has a few customers who are blind using ?voiceover that are running into some problems. I thought that I would throw this question out to you guys and see if anyone knows a way to get around this issue. Basically, we use WHM/CPanel as our server administration. We also have, for web based mail a copy of Squirrel Mail installed on the server. The issue is that when a client logs into their webmail account via Squirrel Mail, they then are presented with two frames: a left frame, and a right frame. Once they interact with the right frame, they can get to the link to compose a new message. This works fine, and they are able to get the e-mail composed, and elect to receive a read or a deliver receipt, or both. If they need to attach any files, they also can do this with no problem. The issue however is when they try sending off the e-mail to its recipient. As soon as they press VO+Space on the send button, absolutely nothing at all seems to be happening, and we have confirmed that the individual who should be receiving the e-mail does not get it in their inbox. When I look at the mail server logs on our server, I do not see any trace that the e-mail has gone through the smtp server, nor through any sort of path to reach the recipient. We also tried routing the mouse with command+VO+F5, then clicking with VO+shift+Space, and even have tried routing the mouse, then literally clicking the track pad, and even have tried pressing return, as well as pressing the space bar on this button. Nothing at all is working. We tried to stop interacting with the right frame, then reinteract just in case the page didn't refresh as far as Voiceover was concerned, but this doesn't seem to have any effect either. Further to complicate things, we have tried both in Safari, as well as in Google Chrome, I tried myself using Webkit, and even using Lightning Web Browser. On Windows, I've tried with Firefox, as well as with Internet Exploder... oh wait... did I really just say that? LOL! At any rate, nothing works. I'm completely out of options. We are running Squirrel Mail 1.4.22 on Cent-OS 6 which is running CPanel/WHM Web Host Manager 11.38.2.7. If anyone has any idea, please let me know so that I may promptly answer this support ticket on what else may can be done. Chris. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net
Dictation
Stupid question I'm sure that can you insert punctuation into your dictation Sent from Dane's iPhone +613400494862 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Dictation
Yes. Just say full stop or comma or queston mark etc - Andy On 22 Oct 2013, at 08:58, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Stupid question I'm sure that can you insert punctuation into your dictation Sent from Dane's iPhone +613400494862 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
iPhone 5c versus 5s
Hello, I have had an iPhone 3GS 16GB for some time and am now considering upgrading to an iPhone 5c or 5s both 16GB. the 3GS does not support IOS 7 and some of my Apps which were upgraded to IOS 7 no longer work on IOS 6. supp9oort no lA What are the differences between the 5c and the 5s other than the case and the price? Does the 5c support the new finger print unlock mechanism? Why might I consider the 5s rather than the cheaper 5c? Many thanks in anticipation of your advice. Paul Hopewell --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: iPhone 5c versus 5s
No the 5c does not support the fingerprint technology only the 5s does. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 22/10/2013 11:24, Paul Hopewell wrote: Hello, I have had an iPhone 3GS 16GB for some time and am now considering upgrading to an iPhone 5c or 5s both 16GB. the 3GS does not support IOS 7 and some of my Apps which were upgraded to IOS 7 no longer work on IOS 6. supp9oort no lA What are the differences between the 5c and the 5s other than the case and the price? Does the 5c support the new finger print unlock mechanism? Why might I consider the 5s rather than the cheaper 5c? Many thanks in anticipation of your advice. Paul Hopewell --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: iPhone 5c versus 5s
Hi! The 5C is exactly the same as the 5 in processing power though the colour may be different and its made from plastic instead of metal. As I recall you're in Australia right? I know the pricing of the 5C and the 5S in Australia and there's not all that much difference in the pricing when all said and done and - given that the 5S is a phone with much more power - I'd be inclined to forget about the 5C completely and get the 5S. On 22/10/2013, at 9:24 PM, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote: Hello, I have had an iPhone 3GS 16GB for some time and am now considering upgrading to an iPhone 5c or 5s both 16GB. the 3GS does not support IOS 7 and some of my Apps which were upgraded to IOS 7 no longer work on IOS 6. supp9oort no lA What are the differences between the 5c and the 5s other than the case and the price? Does the 5c support the new finger print unlock mechanism? Why might I consider the 5s rather than the cheaper 5c? Many thanks in anticipation of your advice. Paul Hopewell --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: iPhone 5c versus 5s
Hi Paul. I have the 5s, but I have heard from people who have the 5c that it seems a bit sluggish, the speaker doesn't sound as good, it's possibly slightly heavier in weight, it doesn't support the fingerpring sensor, it has older architecture processor. So for the sake of 80 quid difference, I would go for the 5s. Hope this helps? Cheers Thuy On 22/10/2013, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote: Hello, I have had an iPhone 3GS 16GB for some time and am now considering upgrading to an iPhone 5c or 5s both 16GB. the 3GS does not support IOS 7 and some of my Apps which were upgraded to IOS 7 no longer work on IOS 6. supp9oort no lA What are the differences between the 5c and the 5s other than the case and the price? Does the 5c support the new finger print unlock mechanism? Why might I consider the 5s rather than the cheaper 5c? Many thanks in anticipation of your advice. Paul Hopewell --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Test - please ignore
Hopefully sent from hopewell via gmail. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: iPhone 5c versus 5s
Hello Paul, Well the 5S has a 64bit processor. Which is taking mobile activity to a new higher level. Whether it will make it easier for VO users, I'm not sure. Certainly, benchmark tests suggest it is a lot faster. But if there are benefits to us, I don't know. Certainly, it seems logical to me if you are using apps like look tell, tap tap see, O C R apps etc. The faster processor and better camera on the 5S will be a worthy long term investment. You need to ask yourself. What do I currently use a phone for? What might I use a phone for in the future? Gena Georgina Joyce Applied Psychologist Training and Coaching. Because individuals of groups matter! On 22 Oct 2013, at 11:24, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote: Hello, I have had an iPhone 3GS 16GB for some time and am now considering upgrading to an iPhone 5c or 5s both 16GB. the 3GS does not support IOS 7 and some of my Apps which were upgraded to IOS 7 no longer work on IOS 6. supp9oort no lA What are the differences between the 5c and the 5s other than the case and the price? Does the 5c support the new finger print unlock mechanism? Why might I consider the 5s rather than the cheaper 5c? Many thanks in anticipation of your advice. Paul Hopewell --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Dictation
Yes you can. just say the name of it. like for example I like cake period Good luck. On Oct 22, 2013, at 12:58 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Stupid question I'm sure that can you insert punctuation into your dictation Sent from Dane's iPhone +613400494862 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Dictation
Dunno if full stop will work for me as I'm set to us english. but it's worth a try. Take care and good luck. On Oct 22, 2013, at 2:11 AM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Yes. Just say full stop or comma or queston mark etc - Andy On 22 Oct 2013, at 08:58, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Stupid question I'm sure that can you insert punctuation into your dictation Sent from Dane's iPhone +613400494862 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: a problem with hiding file extensions
Actually I have all extensions showing . Did you go back out and in to the folder and see if that hid the mp3 extensions. You will want to see those as you will want to know what opens them, at least that's why I have it, and I'm from the doss days where I had to see them lol! Take care. On Oct 21, 2013, at 10:39 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey listers, i'm having an interesting problem and i'm wondering if anyone can help me out? i have a folder full of mp3 files but i don't want to see the mp3 extension. i went into finder prefs and disabled the show all extensions, still showing. i then went into my folder of mp3 files selected them all and went into the file inspector and ticked hide extensions and still no luck. has anyone come across this problem? how did you get around it? i must say this is quite perplexing. any help would be fantastic thanks Michael --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Formatting/partitioning an external drive on a Mac
1. go to disk utility 2. go to the drive name, for example 2 tb elements 3. go to the partitions tab and set it to 1. 4. name the partition (not required but a good idea) and make sure you are set to what ever format in the pop up button (for example mac osx extended journaled) 5. make sure the size is correct. 6. hit the partition button. 7. Read the warning very carefully and make sure you understand what will be erased. 8 except the warning and wait for about maybe 5 minutes on the outside. I've had this task get done in about 5 or so minutes on a good day. On Oct 21, 2013, at 9:36 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I have a 2 tB external drive that I am using with my PC. I know that I need to move all of the folders/files off before undertaking this task. I understand that I need to go to utilities-disk utility in the main hard drive. What I am seeking are step-by-step instructions on how to complete the partition process after the above has been done. I would appreciate any input on this subject. Thanks in advance. Eileen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Dictation
Thanks for all that, I have to admit to finding the dictation facilities very convenient, like the way you can double tap with 2 fingers on an edit text field, start dictating and perform another 2 finger double tap on that field to finish, makes things easier than ever. On 23/10/2013, at 12:09 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Dunno if full stop will work for me as I'm set to us english. but it's worth a try. Take care and good luck. On Oct 22, 2013, at 2:11 AM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Yes. Just say full stop or comma or queston mark etc - Andy On 22 Oct 2013, at 08:58, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Stupid question I'm sure that can you insert punctuation into your dictation Sent from Dane's iPhone +613400494862 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Dictation
Hmm. never could get the 2 finger double tap for dictation to work. It normally just starts playing the book I'm listening to. I normally just find the button with my thumb as half the time I'm walking. Tc all. On Oct 22, 2013, at 6:21 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Thanks for all that, I have to admit to finding the dictation facilities very convenient, like the way you can double tap with 2 fingers on an edit text field, start dictating and perform another 2 finger double tap on that field to finish, makes things easier than ever. On 23/10/2013, at 12:09 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Dunno if full stop will work for me as I'm set to us english. but it's worth a try. Take care and good luck. On Oct 22, 2013, at 2:11 AM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Yes. Just say full stop or comma or queston mark etc - Andy On 22 Oct 2013, at 08:58, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Stupid question I'm sure that can you insert punctuation into your dictation Sent from Dane's iPhone +613400494862 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should
scheduler in audiohijack
Hi, Is there a way to use the scheduler feature in audiohijack pro? Thanks, Courtney Sent from my iMac --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
test - please ignore
Sent to Mac-access 17:23 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
test 17:30
here it is.. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
test 17:30
here it ishere it is.. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
test - please ignore
test sent 17:40 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Question about Voiceover and a particular web site.
Yes, we have done this as well. Chris. Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter. http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic - Original Message - From: Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 1:59 AM Subject: Re: Question about Voiceover and a particular web site. Did you try to literally interact with the button title and then click with the mouse witt Vo+Shift+space or with the trackpad, or, may be, Bringing a context menu and clicking something from there? I don't know the site, but just some other ideas. Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 22/10/2013, a las 06:38, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com escribió: Let me know what you find out, as I've gotten no other responses yet prior to your's. Chris. Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter. http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 11:25 PM Subject: Re: Question about Voiceover and a particular web site. Hmm I now a user on my server who uses squirrel mail. I can have them try and send me a test email if they are awake enough to do this evening (they are in class) I know it used to work, but maybe Im using a different version of the mail thingy. I don't know. If someone beats me to the answer that would be nice as what you did was correct in your trouble shooting procedures. Good luck. On Oct 21, 2013, at 3:01 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: Hello. My company has a few customers who are blind using ?voiceover that are running into some problems. I thought that I would throw this question out to you guys and see if anyone knows a way to get around this issue. Basically, we use WHM/CPanel as our server administration. We also have, for web based mail a copy of Squirrel Mail installed on the server. The issue is that when a client logs into their webmail account via Squirrel Mail, they then are presented with two frames: a left frame, and a right frame. Once they interact with the right frame, they can get to the link to compose a new message. This works fine, and they are able to get the e-mail composed, and elect to receive a read or a deliver receipt, or both. If they need to attach any files, they also can do this with no problem. The issue however is when they try sending off the e-mail to its recipient. As soon as they press VO+Space on the send button, absolutely nothing at all seems to be happening, and we have confirmed that the individual who should be receiving the e-mail does not get it in their inbox. When I look at the mail server logs on our server, I do not see any trace that the e-mail has gone through the smtp server, nor through any sort of path to reach the recipient. We also tried routing the mouse with command+VO+F5, then clicking with VO+shift+Space, and even have tried routing the mouse, then literally clicking the track pad, and even have tried pressing return, as well as pressing the space bar on this button. Nothing at all is working. We tried to stop interacting with the right frame, then reinteract just in case the page didn't refresh as far as Voiceover was concerned, but this doesn't seem to have any effect either. Further to complicate things, we have tried both in Safari, as well as in Google Chrome, I tried myself using Webkit, and even using Lightning Web Browser. On Windows, I've tried with Firefox, as well as with Internet Exploder... oh wait... did I really just say that? LOL! At any rate, nothing works. I'm completely out of options. We are running Squirrel Mail 1.4.22 on Cent-OS 6 which is running CPanel/WHM Web Host Manager 11.38.2.7. If anyone has any idea, please let me know so that I may promptly answer this support ticket on what else may can be done. Chris. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this
OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
Hi All, Now that OS X 10.9, AKA Mavericks, has finally entered public release, it is acceptable to mention it on this list without violating the NDA. :) That being said, I want to gently suggest that VoiceOver users wait to upgrade for a little while, as there are still some issues unresolved from the accessibility testing process. While I personally do not consider any of these game breaking, per se, they are significant enough to cause some confusion and annoyance. I suggest just waiting until at least the first general update to the system before committing yourself. In particular, iBooks accessibility is not all that might be hoped-for. It is being actively worked on, and will be improved in the coming weeks. Warmest regards, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: a problem with hiding file extensions
hey, the reason i want to hide the extensions in this folder is because these files are downloaded and the person who made them has put the time in the file name, EG 1930 radio report 5min 4S.mp3. i wanted to get rid of all the times in the file names without removing the .mp3 stuff with it. thanks for any help Michael On 23/10/2013, at 12:10 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Actually I have all extensions showing . Did you go back out and in to the folder and see if that hid the mp3 extensions. You will want to see those as you will want to know what opens them, at least that's why I have it, and I'm from the doss days where I had to see them lol! Take care. On Oct 21, 2013, at 10:39 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey listers, i'm having an interesting problem and i'm wondering if anyone can help me out? i have a folder full of mp3 files but i don't want to see the mp3 extension. i went into finder prefs and disabled the show all extensions, still showing. i then went into my folder of mp3 files selected them all and went into the file inspector and ticked hide extensions and still no luck. has anyone come across this problem? how did you get around it? i must say this is quite perplexing. any help would be fantastic thanks Michael --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
Are there any new voiceover features? Original message: Hi All, Now that OS X 10.9, AKA Mavericks, has finally entered public release, it is acceptable to mention it on this list without violating the NDA. :) That being said, I want to gently suggest that VoiceOver users wait to upgrade for a little while, as there are still some issues unresolved from the accessibility testing process. While I personally do not consider any of these game breaking, per se, they are significant enough to cause some confusion and annoyance. I suggest just waiting until at least the first general update to the system before committing yourself. In particular, iBooks accessibility is not all that might be hoped-for. It is being actively worked on, and will be improved in the coming weeks. Warmest regards, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
Hi Mike, A few, but nothing huge. I’m more curious to see what happens with the new iWork apps, in which I suspect many of our accessibility issues have been addressed. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Are there any new voiceover features? Original message: Hi All, Now that OS X 10.9, AKA Mavericks, has finally entered public release, it is acceptable to mention it on this list without violating the NDA. :) That being said, I want to gently suggest that VoiceOver users wait to upgrade for a little while, as there are still some issues unresolved from the accessibility testing process. While I personally do not consider any of these game breaking, per se, they are significant enough to cause some confusion and annoyance. I suggest just waiting until at least the first general update to the system before committing yourself. In particular, iBooks accessibility is not all that might be hoped-for. It is being actively worked on, and will be improved in the coming weeks. Warmest regards, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
hey, i do know that VO now has language support witch means that some voices will read a german word in an english paragraph. On 23/10/2013, at 7:20 AM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Are there any new voiceover features? Original message: Hi All, Now that OS X 10.9, AKA Mavericks, has finally entered public release, it is acceptable to mention it on this list without violating the NDA. :) That being said, I want to gently suggest that VoiceOver users wait to upgrade for a little while, as there are still some issues unresolved from the accessibility testing process. While I personally do not consider any of these game breaking, per se, they are significant enough to cause some confusion and annoyance. I suggest just waiting until at least the first general update to the system before committing yourself. In particular, iBooks accessibility is not all that might be hoped-for. It is being actively worked on, and will be improved in the coming weeks. Warmest regards, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
thanks zack, are you using the new update? On 23/10/2013, at 7:25 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Mike, A few, but nothing huge. I’m more curious to see what happens with the new iWork apps, in which I suspect many of our accessibility issues have been addressed. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Are there any new voiceover features? Original message: Hi All, Now that OS X 10.9, AKA Mavericks, has finally entered public release, it is acceptable to mention it on this list without violating the NDA. :) That being said, I want to gently suggest that VoiceOver users wait to upgrade for a little while, as there are still some issues unresolved from the accessibility testing process. While I personally do not consider any of these game breaking, per se, they are significant enough to cause some confusion and annoyance. I suggest just waiting until at least the first general update to the system before committing yourself. In particular, iBooks accessibility is not all that might be hoped-for. It is being actively worked on, and will be improved in the coming weeks. Warmest regards, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
Hi, Yes, I am, And have been for several months. The testing process has not been as smooth as in past releases, but I trust that things will eventually settle down. I just thought I should get the note out there, before some people upgraded and started panicking when iBooks didn't work as well as it could. :-) All the best, Zack. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: thanks zack, are you using the new update? On 23/10/2013, at 7:25 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Mike, A few, but nothing huge. I’m more curious to see what happens with the new iWork apps, in which I suspect many of our accessibility issues have been addressed. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Are there any new voiceover features? Original message: Hi All, Now that OS X 10.9, AKA Mavericks, has finally entered public release, it is acceptable to mention it on this list without violating the NDA. :) That being said, I want to gently suggest that VoiceOver users wait to upgrade for a little while, as there are still some issues unresolved from the accessibility testing process. While I personally do not consider any of these game breaking, per se, they are significant enough to cause some confusion and annoyance. I suggest just waiting until at least the first general update to the system before committing yourself. In particular, iBooks accessibility is not all that might be hoped-for. It is being actively worked on, and will be improved in the coming weeks. Warmest regards, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
there is absolutely nothing to be excited or enthusiastic about from the voiceover perspective in this release. I've been using this thing since developer preview II and have lived in hope that things might improve. Despite bugging lots not much has. Also, many of the existing annoyances haven't been addressed. I for one have no intention of putting it on any production machine for a long long time. Dónal On 22 Oct 2013, at 21:25, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Mike, A few, but nothing huge. I’m more curious to see what happens with the new iWork apps, in which I suspect many of our accessibility issues have been addressed. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Are there any new voiceover features? Original message: Hi All, Now that OS X 10.9, AKA Mavericks, has finally entered public release, it is acceptable to mention it on this list without violating the NDA. :) That being said, I want to gently suggest that VoiceOver users wait to upgrade for a little while, as there are still some issues unresolved from the accessibility testing process. While I personally do not consider any of these game breaking, per se, they are significant enough to cause some confusion and annoyance. I suggest just waiting until at least the first general update to the system before committing yourself. In particular, iBooks accessibility is not all that might be hoped-for. It is being actively worked on, and will be improved in the coming weeks. Warmest regards, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dr. Dónal Fitzpatrick, School of Computing, Dublin City University, Glasnevin, Dublin 9, Ireland Tel. +353-(0)1-700-8929 fax: +353-(0)1-700-5442 email: dfitzpat (at) computing.dcu.ie Email Disclaimer This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for use by the addressee. Any unauthorised dissemination, distribution or copying of this message and any attachments
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
i see, thanks for letting me know. i'm so glad it's free, as it should be because the IOS update was. Michael On 23/10/2013, at 7:41 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi, Yes, I am, And have been for several months. The testing process has not been as smooth as in past releases, but I trust that things will eventually settle down. I just thought I should get the note out there, before some people upgraded and started panicking when iBooks didn't work as well as it could. :-) All the best, Zack. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: thanks zack, are you using the new update? On 23/10/2013, at 7:25 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Mike, A few, but nothing huge. I’m more curious to see what happens with the new iWork apps, in which I suspect many of our accessibility issues have been addressed. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Are there any new voiceover features? Original message: Hi All, Now that OS X 10.9, AKA Mavericks, has finally entered public release, it is acceptable to mention it on this list without violating the NDA. :) That being said, I want to gently suggest that VoiceOver users wait to upgrade for a little while, as there are still some issues unresolved from the accessibility testing process. While I personally do not consider any of these game breaking, per se, they are significant enough to cause some confusion and annoyance. I suggest just waiting until at least the first general update to the system before committing yourself. In particular, iBooks accessibility is not all that might be hoped-for. It is being actively worked on, and will be improved in the coming weeks. Warmest regards, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an
RE: Dictation
Hi, Make sure you hear text field is editing before doing the two-finger double tap, otherwise you will be activating what was previously paused. HTH Godwin Adoyi -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 1:58 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Dictation Hmm. never could get the 2 finger double tap for dictation to work. It normally just starts playing the book I'm listening to. I normally just find the button with my thumb as half the time I'm walking. Tc all. On Oct 22, 2013, at 6:21 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Thanks for all that, I have to admit to finding the dictation facilities very convenient, like the way you can double tap with 2 fingers on an edit text field, start dictating and perform another 2 finger double tap on that field to finish, makes things easier than ever. On 23/10/2013, at 12:09 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Dunno if full stop will work for me as I'm set to us english. but it's worth a try. Take care and good luck. On Oct 22, 2013, at 2:11 AM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Yes. Just say full stop or comma or queston mark etc - Andy On 22 Oct 2013, at 08:58, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Stupid question I'm sure that can you insert punctuation into your dictation Sent from Dane's iPhone +613400494862 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive:
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
After waiting about 45 minutes for it to install, and additionally a little startled when it restarted and said completing installation, it's now done. I'll be interested to see what this has. Okay, optimizing your Mac? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: there is absolutely nothing to be excited or enthusiastic about from the voiceover perspective in this release. I've been using this thing since developer preview II and have lived in hope that things might improve. Despite bugging lots not much has. Also, many of the existing annoyances haven't been addressed. I for one have no intention of putting it on any production machine for a long long time. Dónal On 22 Oct 2013, at 21:25, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Mike, A few, but nothing huge. I’m more curious to see what happens with the new iWork apps, in which I suspect many of our accessibility issues have been addressed. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Are there any new voiceover features? Original message: Hi All, Now that OS X 10.9, AKA Mavericks, has finally entered public release, it is acceptable to mention it on this list without violating the NDA. :) That being said, I want to gently suggest that VoiceOver users wait to upgrade for a little while, as there are still some issues unresolved from the accessibility testing process. While I personally do not consider any of these game breaking, per se, they are significant enough to cause some confusion and annoyance. I suggest just waiting until at least the first general update to the system before committing yourself. In particular, iBooks accessibility is not all that might be hoped-for. It is being actively worked on, and will be improved in the coming weeks. Warmest regards, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dr. Dónal Fitzpatrick, School of Computing, Dublin City
iWork positive impressions
Hi ALl, I wanted to write and say that thus far I’ve had very positive impressions of the new iWork sweet for Mavericks. Tables work seamlessly in Pages, and the whole system seems more friendly to VoiceOver. I’ve yet to try the other apps in the sweet, but trust similar progress has been made. Best, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: iWork positive impressions
Excellent Zac great to hear. On 22 Oct 2013, at 22:40, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi ALl, I wanted to write and say that thus far I’ve had very positive impressions of the new iWork sweet for Mavericks. Tables work seamlessly in Pages, and the whole system seems more friendly to VoiceOver. I’ve yet to try the other apps in the sweet, but trust similar progress has been made. Best, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dr. Dónal Fitzpatrick, School of Computing, Dublin City University, Glasnevin, Dublin 9, Ireland Tel. +353-(0)1-700-8929 fax: +353-(0)1-700-5442 email: dfitzpat (at) computing.dcu.ie Email Disclaimer This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for use by the addressee. Any unauthorised dissemination, distribution or copying of this message and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete the message. Any views or opinions presented in this e-mail may solely be the views of the author and cannot be relied upon as being those of Dublin City University. E-mail communications such as this cannot be guaranteed to be virus-free, timely, secure or error-free and Dublin City University does not accept liability for any such matters or their consequences. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Keynote Slides
Hi Thomas and all, While I have had very positive impressions of the overwhelming majority of the new iWork sweet, Keynote still isn’t accessible when it comes to playing slideshows. VoiceOver doesn’t allow me to see which slide is showing, just displaying a blank window throughout. If this could be passed on as a matter of some urgency to engineering it would be lovely. Thanks much, Zack --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Keynote Slides
All, pleased disregard this message. It was sent to the wrong mailing list. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 2:49 PM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Thomas and all, While I have had very positive impressions of the overwhelming majority of the new iWork sweet, Keynote still isn’t accessible when it comes to playing slideshows. VoiceOver doesn’t allow me to see which slide is showing, just displaying a blank window throughout. If this could be passed on as a matter of some urgency to engineering it would be lovely. Thanks much, Zack --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: iWork positive impressions
what about track changes? would the updates b free as i bought pages? On 22 Oct 2013, at 22:43, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Excellent Zac great to hear. On 22 Oct 2013, at 22:40, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi ALl, I wanted to write and say that thus far I’ve had very positive impressions of the new iWork sweet for Mavericks. Tables work seamlessly in Pages, and the whole system seems more friendly to VoiceOver. I’ve yet to try the other apps in the sweet, but trust similar progress has been made. Best, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dr. Dónal Fitzpatrick, School of Computing, Dublin City University, Glasnevin, Dublin 9, Ireland Tel. +353-(0)1-700-8929 fax: +353-(0)1-700-5442 email: dfitzpat (at) computing.dcu.ie Email Disclaimer This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for use by the addressee. Any unauthorised dissemination, distribution or copying of this message and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete the message. Any views or opinions presented in this e-mail may solely be the views of the author and cannot be relied upon as being those of Dublin City University. E-mail communications such as this cannot be guaranteed to be virus-free, timely, secure or error-free and Dublin City University does not accept liability for any such matters or their consequences. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: iWork positive impressions
I haven’t yet had a document in which I can test them. I’ll let you know if I do. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 2:51 PM, William Lomas w.d.lo...@btinternet.com wrote: what about track changes? would the updates b free as i bought pages? On 22 Oct 2013, at 22:43, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Excellent Zac great to hear. On 22 Oct 2013, at 22:40, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi ALl, I wanted to write and say that thus far I’ve had very positive impressions of the new iWork sweet for Mavericks. Tables work seamlessly in Pages, and the whole system seems more friendly to VoiceOver. I’ve yet to try the other apps in the sweet, but trust similar progress has been made. Best, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dr. Dónal Fitzpatrick, School of Computing, Dublin City University, Glasnevin, Dublin 9, Ireland Tel. +353-(0)1-700-8929 fax: +353-(0)1-700-5442 email: dfitzpat (at) computing.dcu.ie Email Disclaimer This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for use by the addressee. Any unauthorised dissemination, distribution or copying of this message and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete the message. Any views or opinions presented in this e-mail may solely be the views of the author and cannot be relied upon as being those of Dublin City University. E-mail communications such as this cannot be guaranteed to be virus-free, timely, secure or error-free and Dublin City University does not accept liability for any such matters or their consequences. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
Call me easy to please, but I am thrilled that they’ve reinstated the ability to use the Option+Up/Down arrows to move to top and bottom message rows in Mavericks’ Mail.app ;-) -Bryan --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: iWork positive impressions
Did I hear right that this version of iWorks with maverix is free or did I misunderstand something a while back. Thanks guys. This will help me explain why I need this office update sooner. Thanks and take care. On Oct 22, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi ALl, I wanted to write and say that thus far I’ve had very positive impressions of the new iWork sweet for Mavericks. Tables work seamlessly in Pages, and the whole system seems more friendly to VoiceOver. I’ve yet to try the other apps in the sweet, but trust similar progress has been made. Best, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: iWork positive impressions
Hi TIm, Yes, the update is free. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Tim Emmons temmo...@gmail.com wrote: Did I hear right that this version of iWorks with maverix is free or did I misunderstand something a while back. Thanks guys. This will help me explain why I need this office update sooner. Thanks and take care. On Oct 22, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi ALl, I wanted to write and say that thus far I’ve had very positive impressions of the new iWork sweet for Mavericks. Tables work seamlessly in Pages, and the whole system seems more friendly to VoiceOver. I’ve yet to try the other apps in the sweet, but trust similar progress has been made. Best, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: iWork positive impressions
Zack - If iBooks accessibility is the only reason you are advising people to wait, I think I will go ahead. Are there other, specific reasons it might be good to wait? Are there any positive reasons to update? Does VO work better with the new Safari? On Oct 22, 2013, at 6:13 PM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi TIm, Yes, the update is free. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Tim Emmons temmo...@gmail.com wrote: Did I hear right that this version of iWorks with maverix is free or did I misunderstand something a while back. Thanks guys. This will help me explain why I need this office update sooner. Thanks and take care. On Oct 22, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi ALl, I wanted to write and say that thus far I’ve had very positive impressions of the new iWork sweet for Mavericks. Tables work seamlessly in Pages, and the whole system seems more friendly to VoiceOver. I’ve yet to try the other apps in the sweet, but trust similar progress has been made. Best, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at:
RE: OS X Mavericks, Wait a bit
As a matter of interest, do you still give this advice given the apparent improvement in the accessibility of the iWorks suite that is emerging tonight? David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Zachary Kline Sent: 22 October 2013 20:50 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit Hi All, Now that OS X 10.9, AKA Mavericks, has finally entered public release, it is acceptable to mention it on this list without violating the NDA. :) That being said, I want to gently suggest that VoiceOver users wait to upgrade for a little while, as there are still some issues unresolved from the accessibility testing process. While I personally do not consider any of these game breaking, per se, they are significant enough to cause some confusion and annoyance. I suggest just waiting until at least the first general update to the system before committing yourself. In particular, iBooks accessibility is not all that might be hoped-for. It is being actively worked on, and will be improved in the coming weeks. Warmest regards, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: iWork positive impressions
Hi Jeff, iBooks accessibility is one of a few issues which stands out to me—the most significant in my view because it will be immediately noticeable. Safari has some internal bugs—not VO-related exactly, but they do cause some odd VoiceOver speech on occasion. Over all though, i’d say VO and Safari do work well together. iWork is a significant reason to upgrade all on its own. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Geoff Stephens geoffsli...@gmail.com wrote: Zack - If iBooks accessibility is the only reason you are advising people to wait, I think I will go ahead. Are there other, specific reasons it might be good to wait? Are there any positive reasons to update? Does VO work better with the new Safari? On Oct 22, 2013, at 6:13 PM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi TIm, Yes, the update is free. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Tim Emmons temmo...@gmail.com wrote: Did I hear right that this version of iWorks with maverix is free or did I misunderstand something a while back. Thanks guys. This will help me explain why I need this office update sooner. Thanks and take care. On Oct 22, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi ALl, I wanted to write and say that thus far I’ve had very positive impressions of the new iWork sweet for Mavericks. Tables work seamlessly in Pages, and the whole system seems more friendly to VoiceOver. I’ve yet to try the other apps in the sweet, but trust similar progress has been made. Best, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
Re: OS X Mavericks, Wait a bit
Given that the iWork sweet improvements are new to me as well, I’d still say somewhat yes. The improved accessibility does make a very compelling argument though. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 3:33 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: As a matter of interest, do you still give this advice given the apparent improvement in the accessibility of the iWorks suite that is emerging tonight? David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Zachary Kline Sent: 22 October 2013 20:50 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit Hi All, Now that OS X 10.9, AKA Mavericks, has finally entered public release, it is acceptable to mention it on this list without violating the NDA. :) That being said, I want to gently suggest that VoiceOver users wait to upgrade for a little while, as there are still some issues unresolved from the accessibility testing process. While I personally do not consider any of these game breaking, per se, they are significant enough to cause some confusion and annoyance. I suggest just waiting until at least the first general update to the system before committing yourself. In particular, iBooks accessibility is not all that might be hoped-for. It is being actively worked on, and will be improved in the coming weeks. Warmest regards, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
Bryan, That's great news. Does this work the same way it used to? By that I mean that you can use this to navigate threads (conversations) as well as your entire mailbox to go to the first or last message, by holding down the Option+Up or Down arrow key for a short time. And is it also worth mentioning that there are new Take Control series eBooks for Upgrading to Mavericks, and for using iBooks, although I haven't seen the contents yet? These should be eligible for purchase using the discount that is available to mac-access list subscribers. To remind list members, there is information about this at: http://www.mac-access.net/Take-Control.html Note that the titles I mentioned are very recently announced additions that are not yet listed in the local accessible version of the Take Control catalog. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Oct 22, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: Call me easy to please, but I am thrilled that they’ve reinstated the ability to use the Option+Up/Down arrows to move to top and bottom message rows in Mavericks’ Mail.app ;-) -Bryan --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
I guess now that we're no longer on NDA, I will say I agree with Zack. I too, found that the testing cycle was not exactly the smoothest. As I recall, there was even one seed, I wanna say #3 if I remember correctly, that was so broken, it didn't even boot. Anyway... yeah. Chris. Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter. http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:41 PM Subject: Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit Hi, Yes, I am, And have been for several months. The testing process has not been as smooth as in past releases, but I trust that things will eventually settle down. I just thought I should get the note out there, before some people upgraded and started panicking when iBooks didn't work as well as it could. :-) All the best, Zack. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: thanks zack, are you using the new update? On 23/10/2013, at 7:25 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Mike, A few, but nothing huge. I’m more curious to see what happens with the new iWork apps, in which I suspect many of our accessibility issues have been addressed. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Are there any new voiceover features? Original message: Hi All, Now that OS X 10.9, AKA Mavericks, has finally entered public release, it is acceptable to mention it on this list without violating the NDA. :) That being said, I want to gently suggest that VoiceOver users wait to upgrade for a little while, as there are still some issues unresolved from the accessibility testing process. While I personally do not consider any of these game breaking, per se, they are significant enough to cause some confusion and annoyance. I suggest just waiting until at least the first general update to the system before committing yourself. In particular, iBooks accessibility is not all that might be hoped-for. It is being actively worked on, and will be improved in the coming weeks. Warmest regards, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
Yeah, optymizing your Mac... basically, it's just getting things together. Ya know, resyncing your ICloud, and all that type stuff. Don't worry about it. You're ok. Chris. Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter. http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic - Original Message - From: Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:55 PM Subject: Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit After waiting about 45 minutes for it to install, and additionally a little startled when it restarted and said completing installation, it's now done. I'll be interested to see what this has. Okay, optimizing your Mac? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: there is absolutely nothing to be excited or enthusiastic about from the voiceover perspective in this release. I've been using this thing since developer preview II and have lived in hope that things might improve. Despite bugging lots not much has. Also, many of the existing annoyances haven't been addressed. I for one have no intention of putting it on any production machine for a long long time. Dónal On 22 Oct 2013, at 21:25, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Mike, A few, but nothing huge. I’m more curious to see what happens with the new iWork apps, in which I suspect many of our accessibility issues have been addressed. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Are there any new voiceover features? Original message: Hi All, Now that OS X 10.9, AKA Mavericks, has finally entered public release, it is acceptable to mention it on this list without violating the NDA. :) That being said, I want to gently suggest that VoiceOver users wait to upgrade for a little while, as there are still some issues unresolved from the accessibility testing process. While I personally do not consider any of these game breaking, per se, they are significant enough to cause some confusion and annoyance. I suggest just waiting until at least the first general update to the system before committing yourself. In particular, iBooks accessibility is not all that might be hoped-for. It is being actively worked on, and will be improved in the coming weeks. Warmest regards, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As
Re: iWork positive impressions
As far as I'm aware, they should be, yes. One thing that really really shocked me, was that the update from ML to Mavericks was a completely free update. I was thinking it would be more like Lion, and Mountain Lion were, where they each were about 30 bucks. Chris. Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter. http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic - Original Message - From: William Lomas w.d.lo...@btinternet.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:51 PM Subject: Re: iWork positive impressions what about track changes? would the updates b free as i bought pages? On 22 Oct 2013, at 22:43, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Excellent Zac great to hear. On 22 Oct 2013, at 22:40, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi ALl, I wanted to write and say that thus far I’ve had very positive impressions of the new iWork sweet for Mavericks. Tables work seamlessly in Pages, and the whole system seems more friendly to VoiceOver. I’ve yet to try the other apps in the sweet, but trust similar progress has been made. Best, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dr. Dónal Fitzpatrick, School of Computing, Dublin City University, Glasnevin, Dublin 9, Ireland Tel. +353-(0)1-700-8929 fax: +353-(0)1-700-5442 email: dfitzpat (at) computing.dcu.ie Email Disclaimer This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for use by the addressee. Any unauthorised dissemination, distribution or copying of this message and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete the message. Any views or opinions presented in this e-mail may solely be the views of the author and cannot be relied upon as being those of Dublin City University. E-mail communications such as this cannot be guaranteed to be virus-free, timely, secure or error-free and Dublin City University does not accept liability for any such matters or their consequences. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility
Mavericks and Mail, was: Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
One thing about Mail I'm noticing that I, can, not, stand! that has been this way since the Gold Master is Voiceover isn't seeming to report any longer that messages are read, or unread. Maybe I did something to turn it off, but I'm not aware of anything. Chris. Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter. http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic - Original Message - From: Bryan Jones openses...@me.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 6:11 PM Subject: Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit Call me easy to please, but I am thrilled that they’ve reinstated the ability to use the Option+Up/Down arrows to move to top and bottom message rows in Mavericks’ Mail.app ;-) -Bryan --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: a problem with hiding file extensions
I agree, I don't know why anyone would not want to know of the file extensions. I think it is stupid of MS to have started the hiding of file extensions. It is quite unsafe to know what the file extension is. It could be an executable and you might not even know it. Glenn - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 8:10 AM Subject: Re: a problem with hiding file extensions Actually I have all extensions showing . Did you go back out and in to the folder and see if that hid the mp3 extensions. You will want to see those as you will want to know what opens them, at least that's why I have it, and I'm from the doss days where I had to see them lol! Take care. On Oct 21, 2013, at 10:39 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey listers, i'm having an interesting problem and i'm wondering if anyone can help me out? i have a folder full of mp3 files but i don't want to see the mp3 extension. i went into finder prefs and disabled the show all extensions, still showing. i then went into my folder of mp3 files selected them all and went into the file inspector and ticked hide extensions and still no luck. has anyone come across this problem? how did you get around it? i must say this is quite perplexing. any help would be fantastic thanks Michael --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
Hi Chris, I don't remember that one.:-) but yeah, the point still stands, wait a little bit. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 5:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: I guess now that we're no longer on NDA, I will say I agree with Zack. I too, found that the testing cycle was not exactly the smoothest. As I recall, there was even one seed, I wanna say #3 if I remember correctly, that was so broken, it didn't even boot. Anyway... yeah. Chris. Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter. http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:41 PM Subject: Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit Hi, Yes, I am, And have been for several months. The testing process has not been as smooth as in past releases, but I trust that things will eventually settle down. I just thought I should get the note out there, before some people upgraded and started panicking when iBooks didn't work as well as it could. :-) All the best, Zack. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: thanks zack, are you using the new update? On 23/10/2013, at 7:25 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Mike, A few, but nothing huge. I’m more curious to see what happens with the new iWork apps, in which I suspect many of our accessibility issues have been addressed. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Are there any new voiceover features? Original message: Hi All, Now that OS X 10.9, AKA Mavericks, has finally entered public release, it is acceptable to mention it on this list without violating the NDA. :) That being said, I want to gently suggest that VoiceOver users wait to upgrade for a little while, as there are still some issues unresolved from the accessibility testing process. While I personally do not consider any of these game breaking, per se, they are significant enough to cause some confusion and annoyance. I suggest just waiting until at least the first general update to the system before committing yourself. In particular, iBooks accessibility is not all that might be hoped-for. It is being actively worked on, and will be improved in the coming weeks. Warmest regards, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive:
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
Has anybody noticed that text edit seems to lose focus easily in documents? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: I guess now that we're no longer on NDA, I will say I agree with Zack. I too, found that the testing cycle was not exactly the smoothest. As I recall, there was even one seed, I wanna say #3 if I remember correctly, that was so broken, it didn't even boot. Anyway... yeah. Chris. Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter. http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:41 PM Subject: Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit Hi, Yes, I am, And have been for several months. The testing process has not been as smooth as in past releases, but I trust that things will eventually settle down. I just thought I should get the note out there, before some people upgraded and started panicking when iBooks didn't work as well as it could. :-) All the best, Zack. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: thanks zack, are you using the new update? On 23/10/2013, at 7:25 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Mike, A few, but nothing huge. I’m more curious to see what happens with the new iWork apps, in which I suspect many of our accessibility issues have been addressed. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Are there any new voiceover features? Original message: Hi All, Now that OS X 10.9, AKA Mavericks, has finally entered public release, it is acceptable to mention it on this list without violating the NDA. :) That being said, I want to gently suggest that VoiceOver users wait to upgrade for a little while, as there are still some issues unresolved from the accessibility testing process. While I personally do not consider any of these game breaking, per se, they are significant enough to cause some confusion and annoyance. I suggest just waiting until at least the first general update to the system before committing yourself. In particular, iBooks accessibility is not all that might be hoped-for. It is being actively worked on, and will be improved in the coming weeks. Warmest regards, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive:
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
Thanks I appreciate that. What's up with all the bright, crisp, no faces thingies? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:21 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: Yeah, optymizing your Mac... basically, it's just getting things together. Ya know, resyncing your ICloud, and all that type stuff. Don't worry about it. You're ok. Chris. Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter. http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic - Original Message - From: Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:55 PM Subject: Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit After waiting about 45 minutes for it to install, and additionally a little startled when it restarted and said completing installation, it's now done. I'll be interested to see what this has. Okay, optimizing your Mac? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: there is absolutely nothing to be excited or enthusiastic about from the voiceover perspective in this release. I've been using this thing since developer preview II and have lived in hope that things might improve. Despite bugging lots not much has. Also, many of the existing annoyances haven't been addressed. I for one have no intention of putting it on any production machine for a long long time. Dónal On 22 Oct 2013, at 21:25, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Mike, A few, but nothing huge. I’m more curious to see what happens with the new iWork apps, in which I suspect many of our accessibility issues have been addressed. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Are there any new voiceover features? Original message: Hi All, Now that OS X 10.9, AKA Mavericks, has finally entered public release, it is acceptable to mention it on this list without violating the NDA. :) That being said, I want to gently suggest that VoiceOver users wait to upgrade for a little while, as there are still some issues unresolved from the accessibility testing process. While I personally do not consider any of these game breaking, per se, they are significant enough to cause some confusion and annoyance. I suggest just waiting until at least the first general update to the system before committing yourself. In particular, iBooks accessibility is not all that might be hoped-for. It is being actively worked on, and will be improved in the coming weeks. Warmest regards, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
This is a known issue. It has to do with one particular setting, “Wrap to Page,” which you can toggle off by hitting cmd-shift-w. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Has anybody noticed that text edit seems to lose focus easily in documents? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: I guess now that we're no longer on NDA, I will say I agree with Zack. I too, found that the testing cycle was not exactly the smoothest. As I recall, there was even one seed, I wanna say #3 if I remember correctly, that was so broken, it didn't even boot. Anyway... yeah. Chris. Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter. http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:41 PM Subject: Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit Hi, Yes, I am, And have been for several months. The testing process has not been as smooth as in past releases, but I trust that things will eventually settle down. I just thought I should get the note out there, before some people upgraded and started panicking when iBooks didn't work as well as it could. :-) All the best, Zack. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: thanks zack, are you using the new update? On 23/10/2013, at 7:25 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Mike, A few, but nothing huge. I’m more curious to see what happens with the new iWork apps, in which I suspect many of our accessibility issues have been addressed. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Are there any new voiceover features? Original message: Hi All, Now that OS X 10.9, AKA Mavericks, has finally entered public release, it is acceptable to mention it on this list without violating the NDA. :) That being said, I want to gently suggest that VoiceOver users wait to upgrade for a little while, as there are still some issues unresolved from the accessibility testing process. While I personally do not consider any of these game breaking, per se, they are significant enough to cause some confusion and annoyance. I suggest just waiting until at least the first general update to the system before committing yourself. In particular, iBooks accessibility is not all that might be hoped-for. It is being actively worked on, and will be improved in the coming weeks. Warmest regards, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
Oh, that’s describing images to you. :) iOS 7 added a similar feature a while back. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks I appreciate that. What's up with all the bright, crisp, no faces thingies? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:21 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: Yeah, optymizing your Mac... basically, it's just getting things together. Ya know, resyncing your ICloud, and all that type stuff. Don't worry about it. You're ok. Chris. Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter. http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic - Original Message - From: Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:55 PM Subject: Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit After waiting about 45 minutes for it to install, and additionally a little startled when it restarted and said completing installation, it's now done. I'll be interested to see what this has. Okay, optimizing your Mac? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: there is absolutely nothing to be excited or enthusiastic about from the voiceover perspective in this release. I've been using this thing since developer preview II and have lived in hope that things might improve. Despite bugging lots not much has. Also, many of the existing annoyances haven't been addressed. I for one have no intention of putting it on any production machine for a long long time. Dónal On 22 Oct 2013, at 21:25, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Mike, A few, but nothing huge. I’m more curious to see what happens with the new iWork apps, in which I suspect many of our accessibility issues have been addressed. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Are there any new voiceover features? Original message: Hi All, Now that OS X 10.9, AKA Mavericks, has finally entered public release, it is acceptable to mention it on this list without violating the NDA. :) That being said, I want to gently suggest that VoiceOver users wait to upgrade for a little while, as there are still some issues unresolved from the accessibility testing process. While I personally do not consider any of these game breaking, per se, they are significant enough to cause some confusion and annoyance. I suggest just waiting until at least the first general update to the system before committing yourself. In particular, iBooks accessibility is not all that might be hoped-for. It is being actively worked on, and will be improved in the coming weeks. Warmest regards, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
Thanks a lot, greatly appreciated. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:33 PM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: This is a known issue. It has to do with one particular setting, “Wrap to Page,” which you can toggle off by hitting cmd-shift-w. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Has anybody noticed that text edit seems to lose focus easily in documents? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: I guess now that we're no longer on NDA, I will say I agree with Zack. I too, found that the testing cycle was not exactly the smoothest. As I recall, there was even one seed, I wanna say #3 if I remember correctly, that was so broken, it didn't even boot. Anyway... yeah. Chris. Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter. http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:41 PM Subject: Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit Hi, Yes, I am, And have been for several months. The testing process has not been as smooth as in past releases, but I trust that things will eventually settle down. I just thought I should get the note out there, before some people upgraded and started panicking when iBooks didn't work as well as it could. :-) All the best, Zack. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: thanks zack, are you using the new update? On 23/10/2013, at 7:25 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Mike, A few, but nothing huge. I’m more curious to see what happens with the new iWork apps, in which I suspect many of our accessibility issues have been addressed. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Are there any new voiceover features? Original message: Hi All, Now that OS X 10.9, AKA Mavericks, has finally entered public release, it is acceptable to mention it on this list without violating the NDA. :) That being said, I want to gently suggest that VoiceOver users wait to upgrade for a little while, as there are still some issues unresolved from the accessibility testing process. While I personally do not consider any of these game breaking, per se, they are significant enough to cause some confusion and annoyance. I suggest just waiting until at least the first general update to the system before committing yourself. In particular, iBooks accessibility is not all that might be hoped-for. It is being actively worked on, and will be improved in the coming weeks. Warmest regards, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
So, do we want wrap to Window, or wrap to page? Chris. On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:33 PM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: This is a known issue. It has to do with one particular setting, “Wrap to Page,” which you can toggle off by hitting cmd-shift-w. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Has anybody noticed that text edit seems to lose focus easily in documents? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: I guess now that we're no longer on NDA, I will say I agree with Zack. I too, found that the testing cycle was not exactly the smoothest. As I recall, there was even one seed, I wanna say #3 if I remember correctly, that was so broken, it didn't even boot. Anyway... yeah. Chris. Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter. http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:41 PM Subject: Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit Hi, Yes, I am, And have been for several months. The testing process has not been as smooth as in past releases, but I trust that things will eventually settle down. I just thought I should get the note out there, before some people upgraded and started panicking when iBooks didn't work as well as it could. :-) All the best, Zack. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: thanks zack, are you using the new update? On 23/10/2013, at 7:25 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Mike, A few, but nothing huge. I’m more curious to see what happens with the new iWork apps, in which I suspect many of our accessibility issues have been addressed. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Are there any new voiceover features? Original message: Hi All, Now that OS X 10.9, AKA Mavericks, has finally entered public release, it is acceptable to mention it on this list without violating the NDA. :) That being said, I want to gently suggest that VoiceOver users wait to upgrade for a little while, as there are still some issues unresolved from the accessibility testing process. While I personally do not consider any of these game breaking, per se, they are significant enough to cause some confusion and annoyance. I suggest just waiting until at least the first general update to the system before committing yourself. In particular, iBooks accessibility is not all that might be hoped-for. It is being actively worked on, and will be improved in the coming weeks. Warmest regards, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
Nice feature, must admit. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:35 PM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Oh, that’s describing images to you. :) iOS 7 added a similar feature a while back. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks I appreciate that. What's up with all the bright, crisp, no faces thingies? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:21 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: Yeah, optymizing your Mac... basically, it's just getting things together. Ya know, resyncing your ICloud, and all that type stuff. Don't worry about it. You're ok. Chris. Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter. http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic - Original Message - From: Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:55 PM Subject: Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit After waiting about 45 minutes for it to install, and additionally a little startled when it restarted and said completing installation, it's now done. I'll be interested to see what this has. Okay, optimizing your Mac? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: there is absolutely nothing to be excited or enthusiastic about from the voiceover perspective in this release. I've been using this thing since developer preview II and have lived in hope that things might improve. Despite bugging lots not much has. Also, many of the existing annoyances haven't been addressed. I for one have no intention of putting it on any production machine for a long long time. Dónal On 22 Oct 2013, at 21:25, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Mike, A few, but nothing huge. I’m more curious to see what happens with the new iWork apps, in which I suspect many of our accessibility issues have been addressed. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Are there any new voiceover features? Original message: Hi All, Now that OS X 10.9, AKA Mavericks, has finally entered public release, it is acceptable to mention it on this list without violating the NDA. :) That being said, I want to gently suggest that VoiceOver users wait to upgrade for a little while, as there are still some issues unresolved from the accessibility testing process. While I personally do not consider any of these game breaking, per se, they are significant enough to cause some confusion and annoyance. I suggest just waiting until at least the first general update to the system before committing yourself. In particular, iBooks accessibility is not all that might be hoped-for. It is being actively worked on, and will be improved in the coming weeks. Warmest regards, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
Maybe it was just my mac mini being stupid. Who knows. I just tried updating from the GM to the full release, and once it downloaded, and then I restarted the first time, it just kind a sat there and decided to be a looks, and do nothing. Finally, I hit the power switch and manually restarted. So far, that doesn’t seem to have any ill effect. Chris. On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Chris, I don't remember that one.:-) but yeah, the point still stands, wait a little bit. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 5:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: I guess now that we're no longer on NDA, I will say I agree with Zack. I too, found that the testing cycle was not exactly the smoothest. As I recall, there was even one seed, I wanna say #3 if I remember correctly, that was so broken, it didn't even boot. Anyway... yeah. Chris. Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter. http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:41 PM Subject: Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit Hi, Yes, I am, And have been for several months. The testing process has not been as smooth as in past releases, but I trust that things will eventually settle down. I just thought I should get the note out there, before some people upgraded and started panicking when iBooks didn't work as well as it could. :-) All the best, Zack. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: thanks zack, are you using the new update? On 23/10/2013, at 7:25 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Mike, A few, but nothing huge. I’m more curious to see what happens with the new iWork apps, in which I suspect many of our accessibility issues have been addressed. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Are there any new voiceover features? Original message: Hi All, Now that OS X 10.9, AKA Mavericks, has finally entered public release, it is acceptable to mention it on this list without violating the NDA. :) That being said, I want to gently suggest that VoiceOver users wait to upgrade for a little while, as there are still some issues unresolved from the accessibility testing process. While I personally do not consider any of these game breaking, per se, they are significant enough to cause some confusion and annoyance. I suggest just waiting until at least the first general update to the system before committing yourself. In particular, iBooks accessibility is not all that might be hoped-for. It is being actively worked on, and will be improved in the coming weeks. Warmest regards, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at:
VO+L: OH Bizarre!
OK, this is driving me crazy! Why is VO+L refusing all of a sudden to work within Mail when replying, composing, or forwarding a message? How the heck do they expect me to read the current line of text? Chris. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
The default for new documents seems to be wrap to page, which you don't want. Yo no you have it on the right setting when it tells you that you've activated wrapp to window. Sent from my iPad On Oct 22, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Christopher Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: So, do we want wrap to Window, or wrap to page? Chris. On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:33 PM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: This is a known issue. WIt has to do with one particular setting, “Wrap to Page,” which you can toggle off by hitting cmd-shift-w. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Has anybody noticed that text edit seems to lose focus easily in documents? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: I guess now that we're no longer on NDA, I will say I agree with Zack. I too, found that the testing cycle was not exactly the smoothest. As I recall, there was even one seed, I wanna say #3 if I remember correctly, that was so broken, it didn't even boot. Anyway... yeah. Chris. Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter. http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:41 PM Subject: Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit Hi, Yes, I am, And have been for several months. The testing process has not been as smooth as in past releases, but I trust that things will eventually settle down. I just thought I should get the note out there, before some people upgraded and started panicking when iBooks didn't work as well as it could. :-) All the best, Zack. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: thanks zack, are you using the new update? On 23/10/2013, at 7:25 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Mike, A few, but nothing huge. I’m more curious to see what happens with the new iWork apps, in which I suspect many of our accessibility issues have been addressed. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Are there any new voiceover features? Original message: Hi All, Now that OS X 10.9, AKA Mavericks, has finally entered public release, it is acceptable to mention it on this list without violating the NDA. :) That being said, I want to gently suggest that VoiceOver users wait to upgrade for a little while, as there are still some issues unresolved from the accessibility testing process. While I personally do not consider any of these game breaking, per se, they are significant enough to cause some confusion and annoyance. I suggest just waiting until at least the first general update to the system before committing yourself. In particular, iBooks accessibility is not all that might be hoped-for. It is being actively worked on, and will be improved in the coming weeks. Warmest regards, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security
Re: VO+L: OH Bizarre!
Hi Chri,s I’m not sure what’s going on with your system. It works for me here, I just need to interact with the message first. Bes,t Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 5:45 PM, Christopher Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: OK, this is driving me crazy! Why is VO+L refusing all of a sudden to work within Mail when replying, composing, or forwarding a message? How the heck do they expect me to read the current line of text? Chris. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
Sorry Esther, the keystroke does not seem to recognize threads, and there seems to be no delay after pressing option+arrow. The focus immediately moves to the top or bottom message in the current mailbox. I am running the GM, so this behavior may be different in today’s public release. Cheers, Bryan On Oct 22, 2013, at 7:17 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote: That's great news. Does this work the same way it used to? By that I mean that you can use this to navigate threads (conversations) as well as your entire mailbox to go to the first or last message, by holding down the Option+Up or Down arrow key for a short time. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
I am wondering if I need to update to the mavricks? Is it necessary? WouIf I don't update to Mavricks, would this interfere with updates to Mountain Lion? Or, will there be updates to Mountain Lion. Being a new mac user, I would appreciate any tips on this. Thanks. Hugs and 73 Linda C. Knight shirley CallSign: kk4hrg Please note email: l...@tampabay.rr.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: a problem with hiding file extensions
I use name changer. You can put replacement text and have it go through and do it all in 1 go, or do it the slower way. Go through the times and have it replaced 5 minutes with let's say nothing and it will do that. There probably is a better way but my brain is not thinking right now. Name changer is not on the app store btw and it's quite old so try looking for it at download.com Take care. On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:09 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey, the reason i want to hide the extensions in this folder is because these files are downloaded and the person who made them has put the time in the file name, EG 1930 radio report 5min 4S.mp3. i wanted to get rid of all the times in the file names without removing the .mp3 stuff with it. thanks for any help Michael On 23/10/2013, at 12:10 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Actually I have all extensions showing . Did you go back out and in to the folder and see if that hid the mp3 extensions. You will want to see those as you will want to know what opens them, at least that's why I have it, and I'm from the doss days where I had to see them lol! Take care. On Oct 21, 2013, at 10:39 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey listers, i'm having an interesting problem and i'm wondering if anyone can help me out? i have a folder full of mp3 files but i don't want to see the mp3 extension. i went into finder prefs and disabled the show all extensions, still showing. i then went into my folder of mp3 files selected them all and went into the file inspector and ticked hide extensions and still no luck. has anyone come across this problem? how did you get around it? i must say this is quite perplexing. any help would be fantastic thanks Michael --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all
Re: a problem with hiding file extensions
hey, that is fantastic, i use name mangler so i will have a play. the problem is all the seconds in the file names. i may have to go the slow way but i shall see. thanks Michael On 23 Oct 2013, at 2:01 pm, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I use name changer. You can put replacement text and have it go through and do it all in 1 go, or do it the slower way. Go through the times and have it replaced 5 minutes with let's say nothing and it will do that. There probably is a better way but my brain is not thinking right now. Name changer is not on the app store btw and it's quite old so try looking for it at download.com Take care. On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:09 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey, the reason i want to hide the extensions in this folder is because these files are downloaded and the person who made them has put the time in the file name, EG 1930 radio report 5min 4S.mp3. i wanted to get rid of all the times in the file names without removing the .mp3 stuff with it. thanks for any help Michael On 23/10/2013, at 12:10 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Actually I have all extensions showing . Did you go back out and in to the folder and see if that hid the mp3 extensions. You will want to see those as you will want to know what opens them, at least that's why I have it, and I'm from the doss days where I had to see them lol! Take care. On Oct 21, 2013, at 10:39 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey listers, i'm having an interesting problem and i'm wondering if anyone can help me out? i have a folder full of mp3 files but i don't want to see the mp3 extension. i went into finder prefs and disabled the show all extensions, still showing. i then went into my folder of mp3 files selected them all and went into the file inspector and ticked hide extensions and still no luck. has anyone come across this problem? how did you get around it? i must say this is quite perplexing. any help would be fantastic thanks Michael --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
OK, I'll make sure I have it set that way. BTW, saw your signature, Sent from my IPad. Which model have you got? I love! mine! Chris. Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter. http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 8:46 PM Subject: Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit The default for new documents seems to be wrap to page, which you don't want. Yo no you have it on the right setting when it tells you that you've activated wrapp to window. Sent from my iPad On Oct 22, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Christopher Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: So, do we want wrap to Window, or wrap to page? Chris. On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:33 PM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: This is a known issue. WIt has to do with one particular setting, “Wrap to Page,” which you can toggle off by hitting cmd-shift-w. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Has anybody noticed that text edit seems to lose focus easily in documents? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: I guess now that we're no longer on NDA, I will say I agree with Zack. I too, found that the testing cycle was not exactly the smoothest. As I recall, there was even one seed, I wanna say #3 if I remember correctly, that was so broken, it didn't even boot. Anyway... yeah. Chris. Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter. http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:41 PM Subject: Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit Hi, Yes, I am, And have been for several months. The testing process has not been as smooth as in past releases, but I trust that things will eventually settle down. I just thought I should get the note out there, before some people upgraded and started panicking when iBooks didn't work as well as it could. :-) All the best, Zack. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: thanks zack, are you using the new update? On 23/10/2013, at 7:25 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Mike, A few, but nothing huge. I’m more curious to see what happens with the new iWork apps, in which I suspect many of our accessibility issues have been addressed. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Are there any new voiceover features? Original message: Hi All, Now that OS X 10.9, AKA Mavericks, has finally entered public release, it is acceptable to mention it on this list without violating the NDA. :) That being said, I want to gently suggest that VoiceOver users wait to upgrade for a little while, as there are still some issues unresolved from the accessibility testing process. While I personally do not consider any of these game breaking, per se, they are significant enough to cause some confusion and annoyance. I suggest just waiting until at least the first general update to the system before committing yourself. In particular, iBooks accessibility is not all that might be hoped-for. It is being actively worked on, and will be improved in the coming weeks. Warmest regards, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
I'm wonderring if I took the correct steps to update from my GM to the official release, being that I'm seeing some odd behaviors here and there. It's nothing major, definitely not, but it's enough to make me kind a wonder. What I personally did was I went to software update from within the GM, and then hit command+5 for updates. I didn't see anything for Mavericks, so I then went back to the search box in my toolbar with command+F, then typed in Maverick, and the first result that popped up was it. I then hit the download button, and then proceeded as usual. I'm wonderring if I should have not necessarily repartitioned and reformatted, God forbid, but maybe I still should have reinstalled from the recovery partition. I'm just wonderring what is the best way to update from a seed or a GM to the real thing, just so I'll know for the future. Chris. Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter. http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic - Original Message - From: Bryan Jones openses...@me.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 9:30 PM Subject: Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit Sorry Esther, the keystroke does not seem to recognize threads, and there seems to be no delay after pressing option+arrow. The focus immediately moves to the top or bottom message in the current mailbox. I am running the GM, so this behavior may be different in today’s public release. Cheers, Bryan On Oct 22, 2013, at 7:17 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote: That's great news. Does this work the same way it used to? By that I mean that you can use this to navigate threads (conversations) as well as your entire mailbox to go to the first or last message, by holding down the Option+Up or Down arrow key for a short time. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: VO+L: OH Bizarre!
I actually may have figured part of it out, though I still am confused why this happened to start with. I didn't realize that that particular system was still on the Gold Master. I'm in the process of updating it now. My mini which now is on the official release isn't having this problem, so, I'm thinking something might a broke in the GM. Let me get this MacBook Pro updated, then I'll report my findings regarding this issue. Chris. Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter. http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 8:49 PM Subject: Re: VO+L: OH Bizarre! Hi Chri,s I’m not sure what’s going on with your system. It works for me here, I just need to interact with the message first. Bes,t Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 5:45 PM, Christopher Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: OK, this is driving me crazy! Why is VO+L refusing all of a sudden to work within Mail when replying, composing, or forwarding a message? How the heck do they expect me to read the current line of text? Chris. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
I have an iPad mini. It’s a great little device. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:23 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: OK, I'll make sure I have it set that way. BTW, saw your signature, Sent from my IPad. Which model have you got? I love! mine! Chris. Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter. http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 8:46 PM Subject: Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit The default for new documents seems to be wrap to page, which you don't want. Yo no you have it on the right setting when it tells you that you've activated wrapp to window. Sent from my iPad On Oct 22, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Christopher Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: So, do we want wrap to Window, or wrap to page? Chris. On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:33 PM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: This is a known issue. WIt has to do with one particular setting, “Wrap to Page,” which you can toggle off by hitting cmd-shift-w. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Has anybody noticed that text edit seems to lose focus easily in documents? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: I guess now that we're no longer on NDA, I will say I agree with Zack. I too, found that the testing cycle was not exactly the smoothest. As I recall, there was even one seed, I wanna say #3 if I remember correctly, that was so broken, it didn't even boot. Anyway... yeah. Chris. Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter. http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:41 PM Subject: Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit Hi, Yes, I am, And have been for several months. The testing process has not been as smooth as in past releases, but I trust that things will eventually settle down. I just thought I should get the note out there, before some people upgraded and started panicking when iBooks didn't work as well as it could. :-) All the best, Zack. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: thanks zack, are you using the new update? On 23/10/2013, at 7:25 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Mike, A few, but nothing huge. I’m more curious to see what happens with the new iWork apps, in which I suspect many of our accessibility issues have been addressed. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Are there any new voiceover features? Original message: Hi All, Now that OS X 10.9, AKA Mavericks, has finally entered public release, it is acceptable to mention it on this list without violating the NDA. :) That being said, I want to gently suggest that VoiceOver users wait to upgrade for a little while, as there are still some issues unresolved from the accessibility testing process. While I personally do not consider any of these game breaking, per se, they are significant enough to cause some confusion and annoyance. I suggest just waiting until at least the first general update to the system before committing yourself. In particular, iBooks accessibility is not all that might be hoped-for. It is being actively worked on, and will be improved in the coming weeks. Warmest regards, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at:
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
Well, the short answer is, no. The long answer is, yes, and, no. Yes, I would update, if your mac supports it, which if you got it in the last year or two, it definitely! beyond a doubt should. As for it interfering with ML updates, neh... You'll be fine. At least, for the time being. That's kind of where the yes and no comes into play. Yes, you'll be fine for now. No, you won't be fine in the long run down the road. I mean, it'll probably take a year to a year and a half before ML updates are no longer downloadable, however, that's quite a ways in the future. If you don't feel comfortable upgrading, you have two options, either wait it out, or call my company, and for $5 via PayPal we'll assist you or anyone else with the installation who may need some help along the way, or just want someone experienced to look over their shoulder whilst they do it. We're open Mon-Fri from 8:00AM to 5:00PM, and closed on weekends and holidays. 704-256-0067, and choose the option for Tech Support. Again though, not trying to make a sales pitch, it's just an option I wanted to throw at you. Honestly, there is no reason per sé that says you *have!* to update, although personally, I would highly recommend it, myself. Chris. Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter. http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic - Original Message - From: Linda C. Knight l...@tampabay.rr.com To: 'Mac OSX iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 9:36 PM Subject: RE: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit I am wondering if I need to update to the mavricks? Is it necessary? WouIf I don't update to Mavricks, would this interfere with updates to Mountain Lion? Or, will there be updates to Mountain Lion. Being a new mac user, I would appreciate any tips on this. Thanks. Hugs and 73 Linda C. Knight shirley CallSign: kk4hrg Please note email: l...@tampabay.rr.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
Hi Chris, I went into the Purchases tab and redownloaded from there, I suspect it’s pretty much comparable to what you did. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:29 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: I'm wonderring if I took the correct steps to update from my GM to the official release, being that I'm seeing some odd behaviors here and there. It's nothing major, definitely not, but it's enough to make me kind a wonder. What I personally did was I went to software update from within the GM, and then hit command+5 for updates. I didn't see anything for Mavericks, so I then went back to the search box in my toolbar with command+F, then typed in Maverick, and the first result that popped up was it. I then hit the download button, and then proceeded as usual. I'm wonderring if I should have not necessarily repartitioned and reformatted, God forbid, but maybe I still should have reinstalled from the recovery partition. I'm just wonderring what is the best way to update from a seed or a GM to the real thing, just so I'll know for the future. Chris. Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter. http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic - Original Message - From: Bryan Jones openses...@me.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 9:30 PM Subject: Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit Sorry Esther, the keystroke does not seem to recognize threads, and there seems to be no delay after pressing option+arrow. The focus immediately moves to the top or bottom message in the current mailbox. I am running the GM, so this behavior may be different in today’s public release. Cheers, Bryan On Oct 22, 2013, at 7:17 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote: That's great news. Does this work the same way it used to? By that I mean that you can use this to navigate threads (conversations) as well as your entire mailbox to go to the first or last message, by holding down the Option+Up or Down arrow key for a short time. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
Yeah, I don't wanna veer off topic, so I'll close that IPad discussion on this thread now while it's incredibly young, but yeah, I got a 4th gen, and also a mini, and don't know how I ever lived without 'em. I can't wait! to see the new IPad Air that was announced. Anyway, again, we're getting off base, so I'll end it here... LOL! Smile. Chris. Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter. http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 12:25 AM Subject: Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit I have an iPad mini. It’s a great little device. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:23 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: OK, I'll make sure I have it set that way. BTW, saw your signature, Sent from my IPad. Which model have you got? I love! mine! Chris. Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter. http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 8:46 PM Subject: Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit The default for new documents seems to be wrap to page, which you don't want. Yo no you have it on the right setting when it tells you that you've activated wrapp to window. Sent from my iPad On Oct 22, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Christopher Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: So, do we want wrap to Window, or wrap to page? Chris. On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:33 PM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: This is a known issue. WIt has to do with one particular setting, “Wrap to Page,” which you can toggle off by hitting cmd-shift-w. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Has anybody noticed that text edit seems to lose focus easily in documents? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: I guess now that we're no longer on NDA, I will say I agree with Zack. I too, found that the testing cycle was not exactly the smoothest. As I recall, there was even one seed, I wanna say #3 if I remember correctly, that was so broken, it didn't even boot. Anyway... yeah. Chris. Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter. http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:41 PM Subject: Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit Hi, Yes, I am, And have been for several months. The testing process has not been as smooth as in past releases, but I trust that things will eventually settle down. I just thought I should get the note out there, before some people upgraded and started panicking when iBooks didn't work as well as it could. :-) All the best, Zack. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: thanks zack, are you using the new update? On 23/10/2013, at 7:25 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Mike, A few, but nothing huge. I’m more curious to see what happens with the new iWork apps, in which I suspect many of our accessibility issues have been addressed. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Are there any new voiceover features? Original message: Hi All, Now that OS X 10.9, AKA Mavericks, has finally entered public release, it is acceptable to mention it on this list without violating the NDA. :) That being said, I want to gently suggest that VoiceOver users wait to upgrade for a little while, as there are still some issues unresolved from the accessibility testing process. While I personally do not consider any of these game breaking, per se, they are significant enough to cause some confusion and annoyance. I suggest just waiting until at least the first general update to the system before committing yourself. In particular, iBooks accessibility is not all that might be hoped-for. It is being actively worked on, and will be improved in the coming weeks. Warmest regards, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
Mail isn't saying unread.
Hey All, I’m really liking OSX Mavericks. Voiceover seems to be ever so subtly snappier. I’m having a very slight issue in mail, which is confirmation of what Christopher Gilland has already said. When I’m in the new messages area of Mail, I’ll locate a message to determine whether or not I want to read it. Formerly, Voiceover would say, “Unread, Joey Bird; Why do I like birds?” The punctuation is not reflexive of what actually happens. I just used it to create pauses in speech. Now, in Mavericks, that flag doesn’t appear, and Voiceover reads everything except the read/unread status of the message. Is there a way to reenable that flag? Thanks, Ben --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
OK Coolness. I just wanted to be sure. Chris. On Oct 23, 2013, at 12:41 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Chris, I went into the Purchases tab and redownloaded from there, I suspect it’s pretty much comparable to what you did. Best, Zack. On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:29 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: I'm wonderring if I took the correct steps to update from my GM to the official release, being that I'm seeing some odd behaviors here and there. It's nothing major, definitely not, but it's enough to make me kind a wonder. What I personally did was I went to software update from within the GM, and then hit command+5 for updates. I didn't see anything for Mavericks, so I then went back to the search box in my toolbar with command+F, then typed in Maverick, and the first result that popped up was it. I then hit the download button, and then proceeded as usual. I'm wonderring if I should have not necessarily repartitioned and reformatted, God forbid, but maybe I still should have reinstalled from the recovery partition. I'm just wonderring what is the best way to update from a seed or a GM to the real thing, just so I'll know for the future. Chris. Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter. http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic - Original Message - From: Bryan Jones openses...@me.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 9:30 PM Subject: Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit Sorry Esther, the keystroke does not seem to recognize threads, and there seems to be no delay after pressing option+arrow. The focus immediately moves to the top or bottom message in the current mailbox. I am running the GM, so this behavior may be different in today’s public release. Cheers, Bryan On Oct 22, 2013, at 7:17 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote: That's great news. Does this work the same way it used to? By that I mean that you can use this to navigate threads (conversations) as well as your entire mailbox to go to the first or last message, by holding down the Option+Up or Down arrow key for a short time. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list
Re: Mail isn't saying unread.
I’m looking, but so far I’ve not found anything, Ben. If anyone does, please let us both know. Chris. On Oct 23, 2013, at 1:27 AM, Ben J Bloomgren bbloomg...@icloud.com wrote: Hey All, I’m really liking OSX Mavericks. Voiceover seems to be ever so subtly snappier. I’m having a very slight issue in mail, which is confirmation of what Christopher Gilland has already said. When I’m in the new messages area of Mail, I’ll locate a message to determine whether or not I want to read it. Formerly, Voiceover would say, “Unread, Joey Bird; Why do I like birds?” The punctuation is not reflexive of what actually happens. I just used it to create pauses in speech. Now, in Mavericks, that flag doesn’t appear, and Voiceover reads everything except the read/unread status of the message. Is there a way to reenable that flag? Thanks, Ben --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mail isn't saying unread.
OK, this is really bizarre. I looked in the view menu under the message attributes sub menu, and flags is checked, although it’s dimmed, for some weird reason. Any thoughts? Chris. On Oct 23, 2013, at 1:29 AM, Christopher Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: I’m looking, but so far I’ve not found anything, Ben. If anyone does, please let us both know. Chris. On Oct 23, 2013, at 1:27 AM, Ben J Bloomgren bbloomg...@icloud.com wrote: Hey All, I’m really liking OSX Mavericks. Voiceover seems to be ever so subtly snappier. I’m having a very slight issue in mail, which is confirmation of what Christopher Gilland has already said. When I’m in the new messages area of Mail, I’ll locate a message to determine whether or not I want to read it. Formerly, Voiceover would say, “Unread, Joey Bird; Why do I like birds?” The punctuation is not reflexive of what actually happens. I just used it to create pauses in speech. Now, in Mavericks, that flag doesn’t appear, and Voiceover reads everything except the read/unread status of the message. Is there a way to reenable that flag? Thanks, Ben --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mail isn't saying unread.
OK guys, you may not like this, but I did find out a work around. If in Mail, you go to preferences, command+Comma, then go to the fviewing tab, then check the box to use classic mode, it then seems to announce unread messages at that point. So far that is the only work around I’ve found to be 100% consistent. Chris. On Oct 23, 2013, at 1:31 AM, Christopher Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: OK, this is really bizarre. I looked in the view menu under the message attributes sub menu, and flags is checked, although it’s dimmed, for some weird reason. Any thoughts? Chris. On Oct 23, 2013, at 1:29 AM, Christopher Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: I’m looking, but so far I’ve not found anything, Ben. If anyone does, please let us both know. Chris. On Oct 23, 2013, at 1:27 AM, Ben J Bloomgren bbloomg...@icloud.com wrote: Hey All, I’m really liking OSX Mavericks. Voiceover seems to be ever so subtly snappier. I’m having a very slight issue in mail, which is confirmation of what Christopher Gilland has already said. When I’m in the new messages area of Mail, I’ll locate a message to determine whether or not I want to read it. Formerly, Voiceover would say, “Unread, Joey Bird; Why do I like birds?” The punctuation is not reflexive of what actually happens. I just used it to create pauses in speech. Now, in Mavericks, that flag doesn’t appear, and Voiceover reads everything except the read/unread status of the message. Is there a way to reenable that flag? Thanks, Ben --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS
Re: Mail isn't saying unread.
Note to all you guys, I am so sorry for all the bounced messages from incorrect accounts. I have multiple email addresses, so I often am sitting on other accounts. I’m much more vigilant about this now, and it shouldn’t happen again from here on out. I agree that it’s not a great solution on another note, but it does indeed work. Man, Persistent Pete don’t take no for an answer, does he? :) ;) LOL! Ben On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:36 PM, Christopher Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: OK guys, you may not like this, but I did find out a work around. If in Mail, you go to preferences, command+Comma, then go to the fviewing tab, then check the box to use classic mode, it then seems to announce unread messages at that point. So far that is the only work around I’ve found to be 100% consistent. Chris. On Oct 23, 2013, at 1:31 AM, Christopher Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: OK, this is really bizarre. I looked in the view menu under the message attributes sub menu, and flags is checked, although it’s dimmed, for some weird reason. Any thoughts? Chris. On Oct 23, 2013, at 1:29 AM, Christopher Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: I’m looking, but so far I’ve not found anything, Ben. If anyone does, please let us both know. Chris. On Oct 23, 2013, at 1:27 AM, Ben J Bloomgren bbloomg...@icloud.com wrote: Hey All, I’m really liking OSX Mavericks. Voiceover seems to be ever so subtly snappier. I’m having a very slight issue in mail, which is confirmation of what Christopher Gilland has already said. When I’m in the new messages area of Mail, I’ll locate a message to determine whether or not I want to read it. Formerly, Voiceover would say, “Unread, Joey Bird; Why do I like birds?” The punctuation is not reflexive of what actually happens. I just used it to create pauses in speech. Now, in Mavericks, that flag doesn’t appear, and Voiceover reads everything except the read/unread status of the message. Is there a way to reenable that flag? Thanks, Ben --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by
