Re: [Mac-Access]: Saving mail on iPhone

[Diane Bomare]

It is possible, but not as straightforward, as it could be. The folder has to 
be set up before moving a message. Open the mailbox in which you would like to 
save the subfolder/mailbox. Do not select an message. Tap Edit in the top right 
of the screen, and go to the end and find Create new. If you have additional 
questions, feel free to write to me privately, to avoid this triplicate email 
problem we are having on the list.
HTH,

 Diane Bomar
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On May 26, 2015, at 09:49, Paul Hopewell  wrote:

Hello, 
I am running IOS 8.3 on my iPhone 5S. I would like to save a received Email in 
a folder local to my iPhone with a folder name relating to the subject of the 
Email. I do this all the time using Apple mail on my iMac and it is a very 
useful facility. 

On the iPhone I tried the move button for iPhone mail which does let me move 
the mail item to one of a predefined set of mail boxes, but I could not see any 
way to create a mail box (or folder) with a name which I create. 
Is this possible on IOS and if so how? 
Many thanks. 

Paul Hopewell

Re: [Mac-access]: Top Sites

[Diane Bomare]

Sarah, pls retype your message  could not decipher typos  

 Diane Bomar
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On Apr 23, 2015, at 10:39, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

You can also hid ehtr top sites from ou bu accessibng the view menu. I can't 
recall where it is in said menu but it is there.

Take care. 
> On Apr 23, 2015, at 5:56 AM, Eleanor burke  
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> 
> go into bookmarks our favourites and delete them from there.
> 
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>> When I open safari there is a number of sites listed that I used previously 
>> but would like to delete now.  Can anyone tell me how to delete them?
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Re: [Mac-access]: test

[Diane Bomare]

Is it possible that you have a default email set to send from, that differs 
from the one you registered with the list?
I have this issue, as my default email on the iPhone is set to send mail from 
my iCloud account, but I am registered on this list from my earthlink email. 
The only way I can post to the list is to reply to another post, edit the 
subject field, cmd-a and delete in the message body. Then, I can write my own 
message. Sometimes I forget .

Diane Bomar
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On Apr 21, 2015, at 10:36, Esther Kinsman  wrote:

Hello: I subscribed to this list, but when I post I'm informed that I'm not 
registered to post to this list. Can someone please help.

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Re: [Mac-access]: double letter entry on my iPhone.

[Diane Bomare]

Sarah,
I agree that turning quick nav on and off should be tried first, as it only 
involves pressing left and right arrows. However, I have this problem often, 
and that simply does not fix the problem. As I wrote last week, Apple is 
tracking this problem, and welcomes feedback. It is not a keyboard issue, and 
it doesn't help to "forget" the BT connection and re-connect. Even turning off 
one keyboard, and turning on another does not help. It is a real pain to have 
to re-boot, especially while in the middle of a message, but, for me, that is 
all that will fix the problem, other than resorting to the virtual keyboard.

Have you actually had this problem, and had turning QN on/off work under IOS 
8.3?

Diane Bomar
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On Apr 20, 2015, at 20:25, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

Hmm. before you reboot try turnign off qn to see if th tworks. then reboot. 
This is a dough bug  as it is random i think.
> On Apr 20, 2015, at 6:56 PM, Diane Bomare  wrote:
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> Report & reboot  
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> On Apr 20, 2015, at 15:15, Jim Noseworthy 
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> I am configuring a person's iPhone for her but I am noticing that, when
> using an external Apple Bluetooth keyboard, I am getting double letter
> entry.  Anyone know the solution to this problem?
> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: double letter entry on my iPhone.

[Diane Bomare]

Report & reboot  




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On Apr 20, 2015, at 15:15, Jim Noseworthy  
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Hi Folks:



I am configuring a person's iPhone for her but I am noticing that, when
using an external Apple Bluetooth keyboard, I am getting double letter
entry.  Anyone know the solution to this problem?



Thanks all over the place gang.



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Re: [Mac-access]: Iphone 5 or 4S

[Diane Bomare]

Not true, on any point. 4s will probably not be able to run IOS9, but should 
mot be upgraded to IOS8, as it is sluggish, at best  
Bt keyboard must have quick nav off in order to write in an edit field. 

Battery life seems to improve with each iteration of the phone
 Diane Bomar
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On Apr 18, 2015, at 08:35, Jude DaShiell  wrote:

You presume wrong so far as bluetooth keyboards are concerned.  You can use 
VoiceOver or a bluetooth keyboard but not both at the same time and usually 
when you open an edit field the bluetooth keyboard pairing wins.
The 4s will be at end of life when ios10 comes out.
The whole 5 series is no better than the 4s you have unless the 5 series phone 
you get has more memory in it than your 4s.  Battery life is no good until you 
get a 6+ and that is the case since the 6+ battery is larger.



-- Twitter: JudeDaShiell


> On Mon, 13 Apr 2015, Judy Pryor wrote:
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> I have been offered an iPhone 5 for ?80 is it much better than my 4S. Would 
> it be better to find a 5S.   I also wondered which are the best BT keyboards 
> to work with an iPhone and I presume the problems with iOS
> 8  etc have been sorted out.
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[Mac-access]: Touch ID was: Re: IOS BT keyboards was re:: Iphone 5 or 4S

[Diane Bomare]

You don't have to set it up, but, it is certainly easier than typing in 
passcode and/or password. 
It is pretty easy to set up, and it is normal for it to ask you to reposition 
your finger during setup. It wants an image of various ways you may touch the 
home button.
You can set up to 5 fingerprints, and edit the names of each.
Diane Bomar
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On Apr 15, 2015, at 02:40, Judy Pryor  wrote:

thank you so much for all that info it has been a great help.  Talking about 
the fingertip touch ID on iPhone 5s is it possible to turn that feature off so 
you can just use the Home button as in the older phones.
Judy
> On 14 Apr 2015, at 23:24, Diane Bomare  wrote:
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> I have the Amazon Basics keyboard, and an Apple bluetooth keyboard. Here are 
> advantages of each.
> Amazon Keyboard
> :
> less expensive;
> on/off switch
> separate button for pairing;
> smaller than Apple keyboard, so keys are smaller and there is not a vertical 
> T for arrow keys;
> Most of the keys are the same size;
> Up/down arrow keys are sandwiched between left/right arrow keys;
> Uses AAA batteries;
> Made of plastic;
> Apple bluetooth keyboard
> Aluminum;
> Nice spacing between keys
> Inverted T for arrow keys
> Good responsiveness
> Difficult to know when keyboard is turned off, after using;
> Toggle button to turn keyboard on/off is flush with one end of the back of 
> keyboard. It has to be pushed in for several seconds, to toggle on/off. There 
> is no tactile/audio feedback to know when this status changes. Tapping a key 
> will let you know if it is still on, but I have had times when I thought it 
> was off, then try to use the virtual keyboard from another room, and it won't 
> come up because the BT keyboard is still on. The Amazon keyboard has a slide 
> switch on the bottom, abd ut us easy to know if it is on or off.
> 
> Both keyboards have a key to turn the virtual keyboard on and off, in case 
> you want to use both of them.
> The batteries last a long time in each, and are easily replaced.
> Both keyboards have the apostrophe/double quote key to the right of the 
> simicolon/colon key. 
> Each have function, control, option, command keys, in that order to the  left 
> of the space bar. To the right are the command and option keys.
> 
> I prefer typing on the Apple keyboard, because of its responsivemess, but it 
> probably isn't worth the difference in price.
> 
> Regarding the phone choice, I would suggest that you get a 5s, rather than a 
> 5. It is a 64-bit phone with the touch ID feature, a faster processor, and 
> will support future versions of IOS longer than an iPhone 5.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Some Apple news

[Diane Bomare]

The current AppleTV model has been out for a few years, and a new one is 
expected to be released in late June or early July. No doubt, it will be more 
expensive, but it may have features that you can't live without, or make the 
current model drop even more.

I love my AppleTV, and have it connected via an optical cable to my stereo 
system. It is easy to use it with its remote or via the iPhone. There is no 
reason to have it connected to a television, if you cannot see the screen. 
VoiceOver is on by default, but, is difficult to turn on, if it is turned off 
at the beginning. At least, without sight, it is difficult to get it back, if 
it is bypassed at the beginning.  Diane Bomar
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On Apr 15, 2015, at 13:00, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

Actually the apple tv now cost $69 us. That might be cheaper in england.  Just 
letting you know.

Take care. 
> On Apr 15, 2015, at 9:11 AM, Christopher Hallsworth  
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> Hi all,
> some Apple news. Some products will be purchased in the future which dad has 
> allowed me to consider. The first is an Apple TV which is a small media 
> streaming box that is connected to your TV and allows you to stream anything 
> from media stored in iTunes either for PC or Mac to TV shows and movies 
> either purchased from the iTunes Store or streamed from a service like 
> Netflix which as of yesterday is now providing audio description. The device 
> costs £99.00 UK but extra charges may apply especially if you subscribe to 
> services like Netflix which is £6.00/month UK. The second product to be 
> considered is the Apple Watch. Dad is hinting I can do allsorts from my writs 
> without getting my phone out of my pocket. But like I told him it is only 
> compatible with the iPhone 5 and later so this will definitely be a future 
> purchase whereas the Apple TV is a near future purchase. He sounds really 
> excited that they both talk. If anyone has an Apple TV please tell me what 
> you think of it. Thank you in advance! Both products were discussed during 
> our pints this afternoon.
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Re: [Mac-access]: IOS BT keyboards was re:: Iphone 5 or 4S

[Diane Bomare]

If you are asking about the Apple BT keyboard, it is the top rightmost key. It 
toggles between the virtual keyboard on/off.
The key location is different on some other BT keyboards. On the Amazon Basics 
keyboard, it is the key to the left of the rightmost key on the top row.Diane 
Bomar
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On Apr 14, 2015, at 23:51, Eleanor burke  wrote:

where is the key that turns on and off the virtual keyboard on the bluetooth 
keyboard for use with the iphone? 



> On 14 Apr 2015, at 23:24, Diane Bomare  wrote:
> 
> I have the Amazon Basics keyboard, and an Apple bluetooth keyboard. Here are 
> advantages of each.
> Amazon Keyboard
> :
> less expensive;
> on/off switch
> separate button for pairing;
> smaller than Apple keyboard, so keys are smaller and there is not a vertical 
> T for arrow keys;
> Most of the keys are the same size;
> Up/down arrow keys are sandwiched between left/right arrow keys;
> Uses AAA batteries;
> Made of plastic;
> Apple bluetooth keyboard
> Aluminum;
> Nice spacing between keys
> Inverted T for arrow keys
> Good responsiveness
> Difficult to know when keyboard is turned off, after using;
> Toggle button to turn keyboard on/off is flush with one end of the back of 
> keyboard. It has to be pushed in for several seconds, to toggle on/off. There 
> is no tactile/audio feedback to know when this status changes. Tapping a key 
> will let you know if it is still on, but I have had times when I thought it 
> was off, then try to use the virtual keyboard from another room, and it won't 
> come up because the BT keyboard is still on. The Amazon keyboard has a slide 
> switch on the bottom, abd ut us easy to know if it is on or off.
> 
> Both keyboards have a key to turn the virtual keyboard on and off, in case 
> you want to use both of them.
> The batteries last a long time in each, and are easily replaced.
> Both keyboards have the apostrophe/double quote key to the right of the 
> simicolon/colon key. 
> Each have function, control, option, command keys, in that order to the  left 
> of the space bar. To the right are the command and option keys.
> 
> I prefer typing on the Apple keyboard, because of its responsivemess, but it 
> probably isn't worth the difference in price.
> 
> Regarding the phone choice, I would suggest that you get a 5s, rather than a 
> 5. It is a 64-bit phone with the touch ID feature, a faster processor, and 
> will support future versions of IOS longer than an iPhone 5.
> Diane Bomar
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Re: [Mac-access]: IOS 8.3: double and triple characters using BT keyboards

[Diane Bomare]

Turning quick nav on/off is not helping me, at all. Even unpairing and 
re-pairing does not help. Only rebooting the phone helps. Definitely not a 
keyboard problem, as it happens with both of my BT keyboards, Apple and Amazon 
basic. I don't know what triggers it, as sometimes it starts when the keyboard 
is first turned on, sometimes after it has been connected but not used for 
several hours, and, most annoyingly, in the middle of writing.

This problem was intermittent under 8.2, but happens several times a day, under 
8.3. 

I hate inconsistent problems! Some of us have it, and others don't. Also, this 
has happened whether my phone is charging or not.

Diane Bomar
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 14, 2015, at 20:04, barbara jones  wrote:

Me too! John said to turn quick nav on and off and this does seem to help.
> On Apr 14, 2015, at 6:48 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> I’m experiencing it too.
>> On Apr 14, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Diane Bomare  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Since upgrading to IOS 8.3, I have been having 
>> even more trouble with bluetooth keyboards typing double and even triple 
>> letters. Unpairing and re-pairing the keyboard does not fix the problem. 
>> Only rebooting the phone fixes it, temporarily. This has happened 3 times 
>> today, and several times during each of the previous days.
>> 
>> I called Apple Access about this yesterday, and they set up a case, saying 
>> that engineering is tracking how many are having this issue. It happened on 
>> occasion since IOS 8 release, but not as much as it is now. It can start in 
>> the midst of writing an email, or when left paired for several hours without 
>> being used.
>> Are others experiencing this problem?
>> Diane Bomar
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 14, 2015, at 16:24, Diane Bomare  wrote:
>> 
>> I have the Amazon Basics keyboard, and an Apple bluetooth keyboard. Here are 
>> advantages of each.
>> Amazon Keyboard
>> :
>> less expensive;
>> on/off switch
>> separate button for pairing;
>> smaller than Apple keyboard, so keys are smaller and there is not a vertical 
>> T for arrow keys;
>> Most of the keys are the same size;
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[Mac-access]: IOS 8.3: double and triple characters using BT keyboards

[Diane Bomare]

Since upgrading to IOS 8.3, I have been having 
even more trouble with bluetooth keyboards typing double and even triple 
letters. Unpairing and re-pairing the keyboard does not fix the problem. Only 
rebooting the phone fixes it, temporarily. This has happened 3 times today, and 
several times during each of the previous days.

I called Apple Access about this yesterday, and they set up a case, saying that 
engineering is tracking how many are having this issue. It happened on occasion 
since IOS 8 release, but not as much as it is now. It can start in the midst of 
writing an email, or when left paired for several hours without being used.
Are others experiencing this problem?
Diane Bomar
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On Apr 14, 2015, at 16:24, Diane Bomare  wrote:

I have the Amazon Basics keyboard, and an Apple bluetooth keyboard. Here are 
advantages of each.
Amazon Keyboard
:
less expensive;
on/off switch
separate button for pairing;
smaller than Apple keyboard, so keys are smaller and there is not a vertical T 
for arrow keys;
Most of the keys are the same size;
Up/down arrow keys are sandwiched between left/right arrow keys;
Uses AAA batteries;
Made of plastic;
Apple bluetooth keyboard
Aluminum;
Nice spacing between keys
Inverted T for arrow keys
Good responsiveness
Difficult to know when keyboard is turned off, after using;
Toggle button to turn keyboard on/off is flush with one end of the back of 
keyboard. It has to be pushed in for several seconds, to toggle on/off. There 
is no tactile/audio feedback to know when this status changes. Tapping a key 
will let you know if it is still on, but I have had times when I thought it was 
off, then try to use the virtual keyboard from another room, and it won't come 
up because the BT keyboard is still on. The Amazon keyboard has a slide switch 
on the bottom, abd ut us easy to know if it is on or off.

Both keyboards have a key to turn the virtual keyboard on and off, in case you 
want to use both of them.
The batteries last a long time in each, and are easily replaced.
Both keyboards have the apostrophe/double quote key to the right of the 
simicolon/colon key. 
Each have function, control, option, command keys, in that order to the  left 
of the space bar. To the right are the command and option keys.

I prefer typing on the Apple keyboard, because of its responsivemess, but it 
probably isn't worth the difference in price.

Regarding the phone choice, I would suggest that you get a 5s, rather than a 5. 
It is a 64-bit phone with the touch ID feature, a faster processor, and will 
support future versions of IOS longer than an iPhone 5.
Diane Bomar
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[Mac-access]: IOS BT keyboards was re:: Iphone 5 or 4S

[Diane Bomare]

I have the Amazon Basics keyboard, and an Apple bluetooth keyboard. Here are 
advantages of each.
Amazon Keyboard
:
less expensive;
on/off switch
separate button for pairing;
smaller than Apple keyboard, so keys are smaller and there is not a vertical T 
for arrow keys;
Most of the keys are the same size;
Up/down arrow keys are sandwiched between left/right arrow keys;
Uses AAA batteries;
Made of plastic;
Apple bluetooth keyboard
Aluminum;
Nice spacing between keys
Inverted T for arrow keys
Good responsiveness
Difficult to know when keyboard is turned off, after using;
Toggle button to turn keyboard on/off is flush with one end of the back of 
keyboard. It has to be pushed in for several seconds, to toggle on/off. There 
is no tactile/audio feedback to know when this status changes. Tapping a key 
will let you know if it is still on, but I have had times when I thought it was 
off, then try to use the virtual keyboard from another room, and it won't come 
up because the BT keyboard is still on. The Amazon keyboard has a slide switch 
on the bottom, abd ut us easy to know if it is on or off.

Both keyboards have a key to turn the virtual keyboard on and off, in case you 
want to use both of them.
The batteries last a long time in each, and are easily replaced.
Both keyboards have the apostrophe/double quote key to the right of the 
simicolon/colon key. 
Each have function, control, option, command keys, in that order to the  left 
of the space bar. To the right are the command and option keys.

I prefer typing on the Apple keyboard, because of its responsivemess, but it 
probably isn't worth the difference in price.

Regarding the phone choice, I would suggest that you get a 5s, rather than a 5. 
It is a 64-bit phone with the touch ID feature, a faster processor, and will 
support future versions of IOS longer than an iPhone 5.
Diane Bomar
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Re: [Mac-access]: Refreshing content

[Diane Bomare]

George,
If you are referring to the IOS update released last week, it is 8.3, not 8.03. 
I have never had VoiceOver say "refreshing  Content."  It does  somettimes say  
"closing" application name.
Diane Bomar
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On Apr 12, 2015, at 15:11, George Cham  wrote:

Hi  guy's , I upgraded toios  8.03.
Before the upgrade, when I close an app using the home button  , voiceover 
would say refreshing content.
This is still happening with ios 8.03.
Anyone having the same problem?


George 

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Re: [Mac-access]: problems with at&t mail on the mac

[Diane Bomare]

Melissa,
Does AT&T  still go through yahoo!?
 Diane Bomar
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On Apr 8, 2015, at 12:27, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

it's called outsourcing.  They do it to save costs. If you absolutely cannot 
get it to work I would just sign up with a gmail account and use that. you get 
a lot more space, it's easy to set up, and it's free, and you get 15 gigs of 
space. 
> On Apr 8, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Melissa Tucker  wrote:
> 
> yes, but there are several different answers and I can't get them to work.  I 
> probably will end up calling their customer support to get the current 
> settings, but seems like most of the reps don't speak very good english.
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 7, 2015, at 11:09 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> I can't really look at the moment for a website, but have you googled at&t's 
> help support page on this matter? 
> 
> Take care and hope that somewhat helps.
>> On Apr 7, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Melissa Tucker  wrote:
>> 
>> since I've updated my mac, my at&t mail account won't automatically 
>> configure after I entered my email address and password.  I need to either 
>> set it up as imap or pop. it doesn't matter.  does anyone using at&t have 
>> the correct settings?  I never had to worry about this when using the mac 
>> until now.  I don't know what has changed.  I can't tell.  Thanks.
>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Compatible Mac Keyboards

[Diane Bomare]

The FN key placement, is the same on an Apple keyboard. 
I  LOVE my k750, because it is full-size, good key layout and spacing between 
the keys, a true inverted T arrow keys, and doesn't require me to be tethered 
to the computer. It is as usable whether on the desk, or on my stomach when I 
am horizontal .


Diane Bomar
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On Apr 6, 2015, at 08:58, wayne coles  wrote:

hello, I have the k750 also and the only drawback is there is no incert key the 
fn is in that slot but it is very good to use

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I use Logitech bluetooth keyboards on my Windows and Mac. The one for the Mac 
is a k750, I think. It is light, has a good feel for the keys, is a full 
keyboard, including numpad. Keys are spaced nicely. The only problem is that 
one has to go to the Logitech site and download keymapping software, because, 
in their infinite wisdom, have the default of the FN keys messed up. 

It is also solar powered, and has an on/off switch. I think it cost about $70 
on Amazon.

HTH,


Diane Bomar
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On Apr 5, 2015, at 12:57, Eileen  wrote:

Does this keyboard have a NumPad? It would be nice to have every access to the 
up/down and the end/home keys.

Thanks for the info.

Eileen

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> On Apr 5, 2015, at 8:53 AM, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
> I have a fantastic Mac Keyboard but a warning it it is a luxury product at 
> well over £100 but is the best keyboard I have ever used on the Mac. It is 
> everything that the Mac keyboard should have been, with fantastic key travel. 
> Warning this is nothing like those ultar thin models that Apple has for some 
> reason moved to. which I personally hate. This is about five times as thick, 
> is heavy and hefty and built like a tank with quality build all over.   
> This is certainly not portable, but if you want a tactile, comfortable 
> ergonomic keyboard  that is a joy to type on fore the Mac you cannot go 
> wrong. The only thing is that it does not have a split keyboard layout which 
> I personally prefer but it it nevertheless extremely good.  and completely Vo 
> compatible. The only adjustment I had to make is customize one key in the 
> numpad commander but I can go into that if somebody actually wants me to.
> I will never go back to Apple keyboards.
> It is called the tactile pro
> The UK version is on
> http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard/matias-tactile-pro-for-mac-uk.asp
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Re: [Mac-access]: Compatible Mac Keyboards

[Diane Bomare]

Correction to previous post. My Logitech keyboards for PC and MAC are NOT 
bluetooth. I keep forgetting that they each use Logitech's little USb 
transmitter, so they are wireless.   
 Diane Bomar
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On Apr 5, 2015, at 13:28, Diane Bomare  wrote:

I use Logitech bluetooth keyboards on my Windows and Mac. The one for the Mac 
is a k750, I think. It is light, has a good feel for the keys, is a full 
keyboard, including numpad. Keys are spaced nicely. The only problem is that 
one has to go to the Logitech site and download keymapping software, because, 
in their infinite wisdom, have the default of the FN keys messed up. 

It is also solar powered, and has an on/off switch. I think it cost about $70 
on Amazon.

HTH,


Diane Bomar
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On Apr 5, 2015, at 12:57, Eileen  wrote:

Does this keyboard have a NumPad? It would be nice to have every
access to the up/down and the end/home keys.

Thanks for the info.

Eileen

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> On Apr 5, 2015, at 8:53 AM, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
> I have a fantastic Mac Keyboard but a warning it it is a luxury product at 
> well over £100 but is the best keyboard I have ever used on the Mac. It is 
> everything that the Mac keyboard should have been, with fantastic key travel. 
> Warning this is nothing like those ultar thin models that Apple has for some 
> reason moved to. which I personally hate. This is about five times as thick, 
> is heavy and hefty and built like a tank with quality build all over.   
> This is certainly not portable, but if you want a tactile, comfortable 
> ergonomic keyboard  that is a joy to type on fore the Mac you cannot go 
> wrong. The only thing is that it does not have a split keyboard layout which 
> I personally prefer but it it nevertheless extremely good.  and completely Vo 
> compatible. The only adjustment I had to make is customize one key in the 
> numpad commander but I can go into that if somebody actually wants me to.
> I will never go back to Apple keyboards.
> It is called the tactile pro
> The UK version is on
> http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard/matias-tactile-pro-for-mac-uk.asp
> 
> I am sure there are US versions.
> 
> David Griffith
>> On 05/04/2015 14:21, Ann Byrne wrote:
>> Because I don't like the touch on the Apple keyboard, I bought a McAlly 
>> keyboard instead.  it was inexpensive, had a great feel, and only some of 
>> the time would it respond to the VO keys.  So I'm back with the Apple, but I 
>> would like one that more give when I push the keys.
>> 
>> At 08:00 AM 4/5/2015, you wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>> 
>>> I'm looking at other keyboards to use with my Mac other than the one 
>>> shipped with the Mac or the one you buy from Apple, I've been using a 
>>> Bluetooth keyboard and there's nothing wrong with the board per say though 
>>> I'm very much impressed with the look and feel of the latest Logitech 
>>> offering I'm using on my Windows machine, the MX800.
>>> 
>>> I did a Google search on compatible Mac keyboards and discovered the 
>>> Logitedh diNovo keyboard, its a Bluetooth board and seems to be very highly 
>>> regarded so I thought I'd give it a tr
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Re: [Mac-access]: Compatible Mac Keyboards

[Diane Bomare]

David,
Thanks for the information about this keyboard. I was not familiar with that 
brand. Do you have the quiet or the pro? 
Do you have a list of the alternate function keys? 
Also, I would be ingerested in receiving information about the num commander 
key, as I just ordered one from Amazon. It won't arrive until Wednesday.
Thanks, Diane Bomar
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On Apr 5, 2015, at 09:53, David Griffith  wrote:

I have a fantastic Mac Keyboard but a warning it it is a luxury product at well 
over £100 but is the best keyboard I have ever used on the Mac. It is 
everything that the Mac keyboard should have been, with fantastic key travel. 
Warning this is nothing like those ultar thin models that Apple has for some 
reason moved to. which I personally hate. This is about five times as thick, is 
heavy and hefty and built like a tank with quality build all over.   This 
is certainly not portable, but if you want a tactile, comfortable ergonomic 
keyboard  that is a joy to type on fore the Mac you cannot go wrong. The only 
thing is that it does not have a split keyboard layout which I personally 
prefer but it it nevertheless extremely good.  and completely Vo compatible. 
The only adjustment I had to make is customize one key in the numpad commander 
but I can go into that if somebody actually wants me to.
I will never go back to Apple keyboards.
It is called the tactile pro
The UK version is on
http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard/matias-tactile-pro-for-mac-uk.asp

I am sure there are US versions.

David Griffith
> On 05/04/2015 14:21, Ann Byrne wrote:
> Because I don't like the touch on the Apple keyboard, I bought a McAlly 
> keyboard instead.  it was inexpensive, had a great feel, and only some of the 
> time would it respond to the VO keys.  So I'm back with the Apple, but I 
> would like one that more give when I push the keys.
> 
> At 08:00 AM 4/5/2015, you wrote:
>> Hi!
>> 
>> I'm looking at other keyboards to use with my Mac other than the one shipped 
>> with the Mac or the one you buy from Apple, I've been using a Bluetooth 
>> keyboard and there's nothing wrong with the board per say though I'm very 
>> much impressed with the look and feel of the latest Logitech offering I'm 
>> using on my Windows machine, the MX800.
>> 
>> I did a Google search on compatible Mac keyboards and discovered the 
>> Logitedh diNovo keyboard, its a Bluetooth board and seems to be very highly 
>> regarded so I thought I'd give it a try, I've ordered one and I should have 
>> it after Easter though I do warn anyone considering this keyboard that it 
>> will set you back around $100.
>> 
>> If anyone on the list has tried one of these boards then I'd be most 
>> interested in hearing hwat you think or perhaps you've tried another Mac 
>> compatible keyboard offering.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Compatible Mac Keyboards

[Diane Bomare]

I use Logitech bluetooth keyboards on my Windows and Mac. The one for the Mac 
is a k750, I think. It is light, has a good feel for the keys, is a full 
keyboard, including numpad. Keys are spaced nicely. The only problem is that 
one has to go to the Logitech site and download keymapping software, because, 
in their infinite wisdom, have the default of the FN keys messed up. 

It is also solar powered, and has an on/off switch. I think it cost about $70 
on Amazon.

HTH,


 Diane Bomar
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On Apr 5, 2015, at 12:57, Eileen  wrote:

Does this keyboard have a NumPad? It would be nice to have every
access to the up/down and the end/home keys.

Thanks for the info.

Eileen

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> On Apr 5, 2015, at 8:53 AM, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
> I have a fantastic Mac Keyboard but a warning it it is a luxury product at 
> well over £100 but is the best keyboard I have ever used on the Mac. It is 
> everything that the Mac keyboard should have been, with fantastic key travel. 
> Warning this is nothing like those ultar thin models that Apple has for some 
> reason moved to. which I personally hate. This is about five times as thick, 
> is heavy and hefty and built like a tank with quality build all over.   
> This is certainly not portable, but if you want a tactile, comfortable 
> ergonomic keyboard  that is a joy to type on fore the Mac you cannot go 
> wrong. The only thing is that it does not have a split keyboard layout which 
> I personally prefer but it it nevertheless extremely good.  and completely Vo 
> compatible. The only adjustment I had to make is customize one key in the 
> numpad commander but I can go into that if somebody actually wants me to.
> I will never go back to Apple keyboards.
> It is called the tactile pro
> The UK version is on
> http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard/matias-tactile-pro-for-mac-uk.asp
> 
> I am sure there are US versions.
> 
> David Griffith
>> On 05/04/2015 14:21, Ann Byrne wrote:
>> Because I don't like the touch on the Apple keyboard, I bought a McAlly 
>> keyboard instead.  it was inexpensive, had a great feel, and only some of 
>> the time would it respond to the VO keys.  So I'm back with the Apple, but I 
>> would like one that more give when I push the keys.
>> 
>> At 08:00 AM 4/5/2015, you wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>> 
>>> I'm looking at other keyboards to use with my Mac other than the one 
>>> shipped with the Mac or the one you buy from Apple, I've been using a 
>>> Bluetooth keyboard and there's nothing wrong with the board per say though 
>>> I'm very much impressed with the look and feel of the latest Logitech 
>>> offering I'm using on my Windows machine, the MX800.
>>> 
>>> I did a Google search on compatible Mac keyboards and discovered the 
>>> Logitedh diNovo keyboard, its a Bluetooth board and seems to be very highly 
>>> regarded so I thought I'd give it a tr
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[Mac-access]: How do you all use Amazon?

[Diane Bomare]

Please write to me privately, especially if the moderators believe this 
discussion is off topic. My address is at the bottom if this message.
I am collecting information about how VoiceOver users, either on IOS or OSX, 
use Amazon.  This is not a money making, or officially endorsed, endeavor.

On IOS, do you use the app or the web site, or both?
What influences your prefenrece?
What are your opinions about the accessibility/usability of the app and/or web 
site?
Has it gotten better or worse, over the years? Please explain.
How often do you shop with Amazon? daily? weekly? several times a week? several 
times a month? ...
If never, and you live in a country that has Amazon, does accessibility 
influence your decision not to shop with them?
What suggestions do you have for improvement of their app or web site?
Do you use "subscribe & Save" and does it still work for You?

Would you be interested in participating in a formal survey on this issue?

II am experiencing problems using certain aspects of the app and web site with 
VoiceOver. These specific problems are not occurring on Firefox, running on 
that other OS that shall not be named.

Thanks for your feedback,
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Re: [Mac-access]: does any one know of a way of un zipping things on the mac?

[Diane Bomare]

Have you tried just opening the file? cmd-O
Have you tried cmd-m, and right arrow to file, and down arrow to "open with" to 
see what options are listed?
Have you tried cmd-shift-m? or cmd-M, M?
The Mac should recognize the .zip and associate that with the program that will 
open it.
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On Apr 4, 2015, at 16:04, Adrian Leong  wrote:

does any one know of a app that will unzip tthings to the mac?
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Re: [Mac-access]: putting music folders on iPhone 4

[Diane Bomare]

I find that reading the reviews is important, because, sometimes they point out 
workarounds, you can find out if any problems you are having are mainstream 
issues.

But, the last date that an app was updated, tells a whole lot. I saw an app on 
the app store, recently, that cost $19.95, but had not been updated since 2011!
Diane Bomar
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On Apr 2, 2015, at 21:12, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

I use several Apps that have had bad ratings or reviews, 1 Password is amongst 
those and I wouldn't be without that particular App.


> On 3/04/2015 2:05 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
> I sometimes wonder if what may give an app a bad rating is from it having
> not enough eye candy for the sighted, and as a result, perhaps it works
> better for us.
> Glenn
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 7:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: putting music folders on iPhone 4
> 
> 
> Course! I use it all the time, I never go on a rating though that’s probably
> hypercritical of me as I should rate Apps myself I guess.
> 
> Another IOS user told me about it so I heard about oOplayer through word of
> mouth.
> 
> 
>> On 3 Apr 2015, at 10:28 am, Glenn / Lenny  wrote:
>> 
>> I looked for ooplayer and I found it, but it has zero stars.
>> Have you tried it?
>> Thanks.
>> Glenn
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 11:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: putting music folders on iPhone 4
>> 
>> 
>> oOplayer doesn't touch your content that is to say it plays your content
>> no matter where you put it, so long as you can find it with oOplayer
>> then you can play it, a bit like say opening Windows Explorer and
>> selecting files or folders for playing, another tool you might like to
>> look at is File Browser.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 1/04/2015 3:25 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
>>> I was just looking at ooplayer, after you suggested that, and the only
>>> thing
>>> that concerns me is whether or not it keeps the music in their folders
>>> and
>>> allows me to play a folder.
>>> The media Connect which I also looked up after you suggested it, looks
>>> like
>>> it is for streaming only.
>>> Glenn
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 11:20 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: putting music folders on iPhone 4
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You can do it in several di
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Re: [Mac-access]: EZmp3Player help

[Diane Bomare]

It hasn't been updated since November, 2013.

Leedy Diane Bomar
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On Apr 4, 2015, at 13:48, Glenn / Lenny  wrote:

   When I looked at it, it was 4.5 stars, that is why I got it.
Glenn

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To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: EZmp3Player help


Did you read the reviews? 42% 3 stars and below. Lots of people having the 
same issue. No solutions described. Did you notice when the app was last 
updated? There is lots of criticism of no tech support.

Leedy Diane Bomar
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On Apr 3, 2015, at 21:46, Glenn / Lenny  wrote:

Hi,
I found an IOS app that promises to be truly easy, but I'm getting stuck.
The pro version is only 2 dollars.
It appears that one can transfer music to their IOS device via a web page,
which is one of your internal IP Addresses, with a colon  and four more
digits.  It also appears that you can select to play by folder, which is how
I like to play my music.
When I go to the IP Address it offers, the page shows the EZmp3Player page,
but with my screenreader, I cannot find a way to upload from my computer to
the iPhone.
I am using JFW, and I have tried it with I.E., and FireFox.
TIA for any ideas.
Glenn

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Re: [Mac-access]: EZmp3Player help

[Diane Bomare]

Did you read the reviews? 42% 3 stars and below. Lots of people having the same 
issue. No solutions described. Did you notice when the app was last updated? 
There is lots of criticism of no tech support.

Leedy Diane Bomar
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On Apr 3, 2015, at 21:46, Glenn / Lenny  wrote:

Hi,
I found an IOS app that promises to be truly easy, but I'm getting stuck.
The pro version is only 2 dollars.
It appears that one can transfer music to their IOS device via a web page, 
which is one of your internal IP Addresses, with a colon  and four more 
digits.  It also appears that you can select to play by folder, which is how 
I like to play my music.
When I go to the IP Address it offers, the page shows the EZmp3Player page, 
but with my screenreader, I cannot find a way to upload from my computer to 
the iPhone.
I am using JFW, and I have tried it with I.E., and FireFox.
TIA for any ideas.
Glenn 

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Re: [Mac-access]: IOS: copying text from webpages using voiceover and IOS 8.2

[Diane Bomare]

How do you change the VO reading command to a page? or entire document? 
Sorry for being obtuse, but, I truly don't know how to do that.


Diane Bomar
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On Mar 26, 2015, at 08:54, David Griffith  wrote:

When I use it the amount you copy to the clipboard with the quad triple tap 
command depends on which VO Reading command you use. You can certainly copy 
more than one line. If you are reading a screen then the whole screen will be 
copied. If you are reading a paragraph that will be copied, if it is a read all 
then all  and so on.

David Griffith

> On 26/03/2015 14:28, Diane Bomare wrote:
> Yes, I do have a bluetooth keyboard, but is not working correctly. I plan to 
> take it to see its buddies at the Apple store, later today.
> 
> Also, the quad finger tap cannot resolve the problem, as I want to extract 
> several lines.
> Thanks for the suggestions.
> 
> Last night I was able to get some pieces extracted, but it the amount 
> selected was inconsistent and unknown until pasting.
> Put your finger near the center of the text that you wish to select, and 
> double tap and hold until you hear the sound. It is similar to moving an app. 
> A popup will appear on the screen, with the choices "define" and "copy". 
> Double tap on copy, then paste into your file using the editor from  the 
> rotor, or tap and hold on the area you wish to paste the text.
> 
> Diane Bomar
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 25, 2015, at 16:02, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> 
> Hi, this is why I asked her if she had a keyboard because then she won't have 
> to take the time at reading text doing the swipe gestures and things like 
> that she can simply use down arrow select all the text grab what text she 
> wants and put it into another document if she doesn't need everything in the 
> current document
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>> On Mar 25, 2015, at 4:58 PM, David Griffith  wrote:
>> 
>> Quadruple triple tap will always copy the last phrase spoken by Voiceover to 
>> the pasteboard.
>> So if you read a page with #Voiceover with two finger swipe down that should 
>> be copied.
>> David Griffith
>> 
>>> On 25/03/2015 21:05, Diane Bomare wrote:
>>> I need to copy and paste text from several web pages, for an urgent 
>>> project. I have tried pinching, but that only selects a letter, word, or 
>>> line. Edit is not available on the rotor when viewing a web page.
>>> 
>>> I need to extract the text so that I can use it as notes for a document, 
>>> that I am preparing.
>>> I have also tried doing this with the mac, but will cover that in a 
>>> separate post. I do have an iPad mini, if anyone know of a way to do this 
>>> with an iPad, that won't work on the iPhone.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Diane Bomar
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Re: [Mac-access]: IOS: copying text from webpages using voiceover and IOS 8.2

[Diane Bomare]

Yes, I do have a bluetooth keyboard, but is not working correctly. I plan to 
take it to see its buddies at the Apple store, later today.

Also, the quad finger tap cannot resolve the problem, as I want to extract 
several lines.
Thanks for the suggestions.

Last night I was able to get some pieces extracted, but it the amount selected 
was inconsistent and unknown until pasting.
Put your finger near the center of the text that you wish to select, and double 
tap and hold until you hear the sound. It is similar to moving an app. A popup 
will appear on the screen, with the choices "define" and "copy". Double tap on 
copy, then paste into your file using the editor from  the rotor, or tap and 
hold on the area you wish to paste the text. 

Diane Bomar
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 25, 2015, at 16:02, Joseph Hudson  wrote:

Hi, this is why I asked her if she had a keyboard because then she won't have 
to take the time at reading text doing the swipe gestures and things like that 
she can simply use down arrow select all the text grab what text she wants and 
put it into another document if she doesn't need everything in the current 
document
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> On Mar 25, 2015, at 4:58 PM, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
> Quadruple triple tap will always copy the last phrase spoken by Voiceover to 
> the pasteboard.
> So if you read a page with #Voiceover with two finger swipe down that should 
> be copied.
> David Griffith
> 
>> On 25/03/2015 21:05, Diane Bomare wrote:
>> I need to copy and paste text from several web pages, for an urgent project. 
>> I have tried pinching, but that only selects a letter, word, or line. Edit 
>> is not available on the rotor when viewing a web page.
>> 
>> I need to extract the text so that I can use it as notes for a document, 
>> that I am preparing.
>> I have also tried doing this with the mac, but will cover that in a separate 
>> post. I do have an iPad mini, if anyone know of a way to do this with an 
>> iPad, that won't work on the iPhone.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Diane Bomar
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Re: [Mac-access]: Selecting and copying text of a web page on a mac

[Diane Bomare]

I forgot to mention also, to turn the rotor on, while moving through the text 
you want to select.
Diane Bomar
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On Mar 25, 2015, at 21:13, Margaret Booth  wrote:

Can someone tell me how to select and copy text off a web page in Safari using 
my mac book pro. I have tried to to select and copy text off a web page but it 
doesn't work. 

Margaret 


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Re: [Mac-access]: Selecting and copying text of a web page on a mac

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Margaret,
The problem I was having on my Mac, is that my right command key will not work 
for this or any other hotkey that uses command as a modifer. That was the 
default setting on my Mac, and though I think that I know where to change it, I 
have not. The right command key works as expected for command-tab. 

In order to copy text, try holding down the shift while using down arrow to 
move to the bottom of the information you wish to copy. Then immediately, try 
the left command key-C. The system should say "copy." At that point, 
command-tab to the file, in which you wish to enter the copied text. Hit 
left-command-v.

Let me know if this works, for you.
Diane Bomar
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Can someone tell me how to select and copy text off a web page in Safari using 
my mac book pro. I have tried to to select and copy text off a web page but it 
doesn't work. 

Margaret 


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[Mac-access]: IOS: copying text from webpages using voiceover and IOS 8.2

[Diane Bomare]

I need to copy and paste text from several web pages, for an urgent project. I 
have tried pinching, but that only selects a letter, word, or line. Edit is not 
available on the rotor when viewing a web page. 

I need to extract the text so that I can use it as notes for a document, that I 
am preparing.
I have also tried doing this with the mac, but will cover that in a separate 
post. I do have an iPad mini, if anyone know of a way to do this with an iPad, 
that won't work on the iPhone.

Thanks,
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Re: [Mac-access]: AHomeIconPodcast is now available

[Diane Bomare]

I cannot get it to play. I even tried to download it, but still cannot get it 
to play.Diane Bomar
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On Mar 12, 2015, at 23:48, Charlie  wrote:

Hi all.


As promised, I have created a podcast.


Please follow the link here:

http://bit.ly/1E9UdJ4
If this does not work, please let me know.


I always like to help people out, especially due to the fact that life is a bit 
beyond good for me.


Have fun.


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Re: [Mac-access]: Is MS Word Accessible on the Mac?

[Diane Bomare]

The only reliable, tried and true, methos for changing MS accessibility 
strategies, is through GSA. And, good luck with that! This is not to discourage 
trying, though. 20+ years ago, when there was no access to the MS OS, except 
through the use of an Optacon, I was in the forefront of that battle. This is a 
whole discussion that is off topic for this list, but, anyone can write to me 
privately for more information. Suffice it to say, the threat of lost sales to 
Apple has been the only motivation that seems to have made a difference with 
the arrogant that MS is, and that businesses and government are dependent upon 
using their products. Publicity in mainstream magazines could help some, maybe, 
but the masses really don't care if we have access or not. We live in a world 
where most people cannot be bothered with anything that does not directly 
effect them.

I lost my career in Software Engineering over the Microsoft attitude, having to 
compromise and choose going on company sponsored disability, to ensure that my 
children continued to receive health care, and a certain standard of living. MS 
is still vulnerable now, but, people are still dependent on their SW, thus the 
reason for using Word, instead of Pages. If it were possible for Apple to make 
it super easy for people to use Pages, instead of Word, such as a Word layout 
in Pages, that might help. People do not want to learn new technologies; most 
don't even know how to do things with a keyboard. Hopefully, things have 
changed enough now, that MS will respond more positively, but it the threat has 
to come from entities stronger than any blindness organization can exert.
Diane Bomar
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On Mar 13, 2015, at 12:50, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

Actually I have a plan up my sleeves. I was talking to some folks who are in IT 
with degrees and they are going to take it to their state then up to national 
for a resolution. it's time MS be threatened and in a big way. I'm hoping to 
get a resolution written with a lot of research involved and send it off to 
national this year and see where it goes. This might not be a battle I can win, 
but Me and some others with strong heads will try.
> On Mar 13, 2015, at 11:31 AM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
> You're pretty much on the ball here so let me put it a slightly different way.
> 
> Okay, Microsoft have made their intentions clear so the user of the Mac has 2 
> choices, either continue to write to Microsoft and appeal - and deliberately 
> keep slamming yourself into a brick wall - or go use something else such as 
> Pages, Nisus Writer Pro and so forth.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 14/03/2015 5:14 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> Frankly, as far as Office goes on the Mac, I'm about ready to say, forget 
>> it!  As long as all of us have been trying to convince MS to fix the 
>> document payne area, and they've not done so, who's to say they'll listen 
>> now?  Normally, I'm not at all so negative with things like this, but MS has 
>> made it blaintantly obvious! that they don't want to fix it.  Again I say, 
>> just stick with Pages.  I understand it's not ideal for some people, 
>> especially in a work based environment, but if you're in a work based 
>> situation where you need Word?  Then, frankly?  I'm sorry, and maybe this is 
>> gonna  sound rude, but, frankly?  Get a VM, or Bootcamp, or some way to use 
>> Word on a PC running Windows.  If nothing else, get Libreoffice for Linux, 
>> and use it with Orca.  I again know that sounds really harsh, but 
>> realistically, what else are you gonna do!
>> 
>> Last I heard, Libreoffice, and Openoffice on the Mac kind a sucked as far as 
>> accessibility goes.  Maybe things have changed.
>> 
>> I didn't say it couldn't be done, but it was really really kurfunktified the 
>> way things were laid out.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
>> To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 12:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Is MS Word Accessible on the Mac?
>> 
>> 
>>> No it is not. they came out with a public beta of MsOffice and it is not 
>>> accessible at all. I sent feedback but it looks like once again we are up 
>>> with out a paddle on this creak.
>>> 
>>> Take care.
 On Mar 11, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
 
 I understand that MS Word works on the iPhone with voiceOver. Does it also 
 work on the Mac?
 
 thanks.
 
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[Mac-access]: AHomeIcon

[Diane Bomare]

Thanks for mentioning AHomeIcon. I love to know about apps that work for 
others. How do you use this one? Please give some examples. It looks 
interesting, but some buttons are unlabeled.
Diane Bomar
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On Mar 11, 2015, at 14:45, Charlie  wrote:

Hi all, Has anyone used this good app named AHomeIcon?

because if not, I'd seriously recommend it.


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Re: [Mac-access]: External Blu-Ray Drives

[Diane Bomare]

Actually, I was referencing a point made a couple of years ago, regarding using 
an external drive with a mac mini. It was my understanding, that only the 
Superdrive from Apple could be used for booting or software installation 
purposes. Is that still true? If so, are their exceptions?

Which Blu-ray dvd drive is recommended by Apple, and what features does it 
lack? I don't know that I would believe anyone from Google about much of 
anything, that that is just my biased opinion.Diane Bomar
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On Mar 2, 2015, at 17:46, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

I don't have a Mac with an internal drive to try this any longer though I can't 
see why it wouldn't be detected though perhaps not in the boot-up stage as used 
to be the case quite some time ago.



> On 3/03/2015 11:15 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> OK Dane, I think I actually get what she's asking.  I kind of remember 
> hearing that if your mac has an internal optycal drive, then any external 
> drive won't be automatically detected. I'd completely forgotten about that. 
> So yeah, good point.  I guess if it comes with drivers, you'd be OK though.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> ---
> Check out my web site at:
> http://www.clgproductions.net
> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 5:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: External Blu-Ray Drives
> 
> 
>> Sorry? I don't get the question.
>> 
>> An installation of what, are you talking about OSX? In which case OSX isn't 
>> installed from a CD these days.
>> 
>> If you're talking about the external drive discussed here? All one has to do 
>> is to connect it and the appropriate software for the Mac to run with the 
>> drive is installed.
>> 
>> The specific label states that the drive is Windows/Mac compatible.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3/03/2015 9:00 AM, Diane Bomare wrote:
>>> Will the Mac recognize it during an installation? I remember that being a 
>>> problem with non-blu-ray drives.
>>> 
>>> Diane Bomar
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Mar 2, 2015, at 14:09, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Takes its power from USB.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 3/03/2015 8:05 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>>> I presume that this drive needs to be powered via an electrical recepticle 
>>>> as well as via USB, or is it just USB only.
>>>> 
>>>> Chris.
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>>>> 
>>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 1:31 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: External Blu-Ray Drives
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Okay, model number I have is SE-506
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 3/03/2015 5:19 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>>>> Okay, my Samsung seems to be perfectly co
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Re: [Mac-access]: External Blu-Ray Drives

[Diane Bomare]

Will the Mac recognize it during an installation? I remember that being a 
problem with non-blu-ray drives. 

Diane Bomar
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On Mar 2, 2015, at 14:09, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

Takes its power from USB.



> On 3/03/2015 8:05 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> I presume that this drive needs to be powered via an electrical recepticle as 
> well as via USB, or is it just USB only.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 1:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: External Blu-Ray Drives
> 
> 
>> Okay, model number I have is SE-506
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3/03/2015 5:19 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>> Okay, my Samsung seems to be perfectly compatible, haven't looked up the 
>>> info yet have i .
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 3/03/2015 5:07 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 Oh, I know where to get bluray blank discs, that isn't the issue.  I'm 
 just not sure about what drive to get that would be compatible both with 
 the Mac as well as with Windows.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
 
 To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
 Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 8:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: External Blu-Ray Drives
 
 
> Sorry about that, I forgot to include the model number so I'll go and 
> reference that and get back to you.
> 
> In Australia I know of a firm that sells Blu-Ray discs, 
> http://www.warcom.com.au and I'd imagine they ship internationally or at 
> least can put you in touch with someone who sells blank Blu-Ray discs.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2/03/2015 11:12 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> Dane,
>> 
>> Can you perhaps see if Amazon has this Samsung Bluray drive? I've 
>> actually been in the market for one.
>> 
>> What I'd really like though are some blank bluray discs, and a full on 
>> writer.  Either way though, I won't complain.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>> 
>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 2:52 AM
>> Subject: [Mac-access]: External Blu-Ray Drives
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> 
>>> You’ll possibly want one of the
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Re: [Mac-access]: Auto Renew access from an iPhone.

[Diane Bomare]

Did you see the heading for subscriptions, but no subscriptions were listed? 
Or, did the page not show the subscriptions heading, at all.

Do you remember how you originally signed up for the subscription? Was it 
through the app store or the News app that comes with IOS Sorry, I can't 
remember the exact app name, as I don't use it. Once upon a time, I did go into 
it, and subscribed to some magazines, but then deleted the subscriptions from 
that app. It is probably in Extras. Is the subscription an app or a 
newsletter/magazine? Diane Bomar
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On Feb 26, 2015, at 17:44, Jim Noseworthy  
wrote:

Diane:

Thanks much.  I've tried what you suggested but there is now subscription
option.

Thanks.



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EDited version of last eMail.


1. Go to Settings/iTunes & App Store.
2. Double tap on your Apple ID.
3. Double tap on View My Apple ID.
4. The next screen allows you to change your Apple ID, payment method,
country/region, ratings and reviews, and subscriptions.

5. Double tap on Subscriptions.

BTW, I have reported a VO but in the Ratings and Reviews section, as VO
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HTH,
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Re: [Mac-access]: Auto Renew access from an iPhone.

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EDited version of last eMail.


1. Go to Settings/iTunes & App Store.
2. Double tap on your Apple ID.
3. Double tap on View My Apple ID.
4. The next screen allows you to change your Apple ID, payment method, 
country/region, ratings and reviews, and subscriptions.

5. Double tap on Subscriptions.

BTW, I have reported a VO but in the Ratings and Reviews section, as VO users 
cannot edit/delete old reviews.


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Re: [Mac-access]: Auto Renew access from an iPhone.

[Diane Bomare]

1. Go to Settings/iTunes & App Store.
2. Double tap on your Apple ID.
3. Double tap on View My Apple ID.
4. The next screen allows you to change your Apple ID, payment method, 
country/region, ratings and reviews, and subscriptions.

5. Double tap on Subscriptions.

4. Enter your Apple Id password.

BTW, I have reported a VO but in the Ratings and Reviews section, as VO users 
cannot edit/delete old reviews.


HTH,
Diane Bomar
>From my iPhone 6 running IOS 8.1.3
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Re: [Mac-access]: No sound from internal speaker on my 27 inch mac

[Diane Bomare]

I am having a similar problem, after upgrading to 10.10.2. However, I am not 
positive that it was not happening under the previous release, as I was having 
audio issues then, but attributed the problem to faulty speakers. Now, with 
internal or external speakers, or headphones, a message saying that audio is 
set to default from airplay, and there is a choice or "continue" or "revert". 
Selecting either one causes VO to stop. When I restart it with command-F5, I 
get the same message.
It is strange in that the audio works for a while, then that message appears. I 
have set airplay, at times, in iTunes, to play music through my home theater 
system, but never set it to default to airplay in the preferences.Leedy Diane 
Bomar
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On Feb 20, 2015, at 10:58, Matthew Dyer  
wrote:

Hi,

I wonder if it  is  a bug in the latest 10.10.2? Just a thought.
Matthew


> On February 19, 2015 12:58:54 PM EST, wayne17a  wrote:
> Hi I have no chime at start up but I do have sound now and again from
> my
> headphone socket but I have to fiddle around a lot to get sound into my
> headphones 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Dyer
> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 3:54 PM
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: No sound from internal speaker on my 27 inch
> mac
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> One thing to note is that the chime which plays at boot up does not 
> sound. I will try to get into the recovery and report back as soon as I
> 
> can. Thanks again.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
>> On 02/17/2015 06:16 PM, David Griffith wrote:
>> I had the opposite problem last year when the headphone appeared to
> go 
>> on my iMac but the speaker was OK.
>> 
>> In your situation I would put headphones in an look at Sound settings
> 
>> under system preferences to make sure that speakers are enable.
>> 
>> Apart from this what I discovered was when I went into the Recovery 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Installing the sendspace wizard for mac

[Diane Bomare]

I don't remember his name, and don't have the emails. I used the contact form 
on the sendspace site, to contact them, and this person responded. Diane Bomar
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On Jan 15, 2015, at 06:18, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

Let me guess.  The guy who wrote you was named Richard, or may have gone by the 
name JFledkx.

Chris.

- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Bomare" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 5:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Installing the sendspace wizard for mac


> 
> 
> In situations, such as this, EVERYONE having the problem must write to 
> whoever can fix it. This guy wrote back to me many times, saying that there 
> was no problem, and stated that they had added the VoiceOver compatability 
> switch, and everything worked fine for everyone else. Because they refuse to 
> communicate via anything other email, it is very difficult, at best, to 
> explain what is going on. I need to retrieve files from SendSpace on a 
> regular basis, and have given up trying to do it with my Mac. Instead, I 
> download them to my 10+ years windows xp laptop. This is quite a pain, as I 
> want to get away from using that machine IIf only we could convince these 
> guys to check out the issue on their end: run VO and turn off the screen!! I 
> asked him to do this, several times. Just because Sarah wrote to him, and I 
> wrote doesn't mean that no one else should bring the issue with his program. 
> Diane Bomar
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> 
> On Jan 15, 2015, at 01:56, Eleanor Burke  wrote:
> 
> Dianne when I first raised this question on list, Sarah said she had written 
> more than once to sendspace about this to no avail. It is unfortunate that 
> her e-mails went ignored.
> Eleanor
> 
> -original message-
> Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Installing the sendspace wizard for mac
> From: Diane Bomare 
> Date: 15/01/2015 8:47 am
> 
> The problem I have with using Sendspace on the Mac, is the one that Eleanor 
> was referringnto. How many of you have written to SenndSpace, explaining the 
> problem. I have sent many questions, and get the response that "no one else 
> seems to be having a problem with VO and Sendspace. nI have turned on the VO 
> switch, but cannot read the login and password fieldsSo, Sarah, if you know 
> how to do this, please let me know, and everyone having problems with this, 
> PLEASE write to that arrogant d
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Re: [Mac-access]: Installing the sendspace wizard for mac

[Diane Bomare]

In situations, such as this, EVERYONE having the problem must write to whoever 
can fix it. This guy wrote back to me many times, saying that there was no 
problem, and stated that they had added the VoiceOver compatability switch, and 
everything worked fine for everyone else. Because they refuse to communicate 
via anything other email, it is very difficult, at best, to explain what is 
going on. I need to retrieve files from SendSpace on a regular basis, and have 
given up trying to do it with my Mac. Instead, I download them to my 10+ years 
windows xp laptop. This is quite a pain, as I want to get away from using that 
machine IIf only we could convince these guys to check out the issue on their 
end: run VO and turn off the screen!! I asked him to do this, several times. 
Just because Sarah wrote to him, and I wrote doesn't mean that no one else 
should bring the issue with his program. Diane Bomar
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On Jan 15, 2015, at 01:56, Eleanor Burke  wrote:

Dianne when I first raised this question on list, Sarah said she had written 
more than once to sendspace about this to no avail. It is unfortunate that her 
e-mails went ignored.
Eleanor

-original message-
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Installing the sendspace wizard for mac
From: Diane Bomare 
Date: 15/01/2015 8:47 am

The problem I have with using Sendspace on the Mac, is the one that Eleanor was 
referringnto. How many of you have written to SenndSpace, explaining the 
problem. I have sent many questions, and get the response that "no one else 
seems to be having a problem with VO and Sendspace. nI have turned on the VO 
switch, but cannot read the login and password fieldsSo, Sarah, if you know how 
to do this, please let me know, and everyone having problems with this, PLEASE 
write to that arrogant dude at Sendspace. It seems that he is the only one 
there, whereever "there" may be. I don't think it is in the U.S. Britain, 
Canada or Australia. Can you imagine all of the data they control, without any 
accountability? Sorry, I know that is off-topic, just food for thought.


Leedy Diane Bomar
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On Jan 14, 2015, at 16:18, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

Actually turn that off and simply do a vo shift m on the app file. this will 
make you more secure.  All you need to do then is just hit open once and it 
will never bug you again.
> On Jan 14, 2015, at 2:48 PM, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
> 1. Have you copied it to your applications folder?
> 2. have you set up permission to install apps from anywhere in your system 
> preferences?
> 
> David Griffith 
>> On 14 Jan 2015, at 22:35, George Cham  wrote:
>> 
>> Ive asked this question before , but its been a long time since I’ve done it.
>> I’m trying to install the sendspace wizard on the mac.
>> I downloaded the disc image , opened it wit, and it shows me the sendspace 
>> app.
>> I open it, but its not installing on the mac.
>> Can anyone help please?
>> 
>> George Cham
>> george.c...@mac-access.net
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Installing the sendspace wizard for mac

[Diane Bomare]

The problem I have with using Sendspace on the Mac, is the one that Eleanor was 
referringnto. How many of you have written to SenndSpace, explaining the 
problem. I have sent many questions, and get the response that "no one else 
seems to be having a problem with VO and Sendspace. nI have turned on the VO 
switch, but cannot read the login and password fieldsSo, Sarah, if you know how 
to do this, please let me know, and everyone having problems with this, PLEASE 
write to that arrogant dude at Sendspace. It seems that he is the only one 
there, whereever "there" may be. I don't think it is in the U.S. Britain, 
Canada or Australia. Can you imagine all of the data they control, without any 
accountability? Sorry, I know that is off-topic, just food for thought.


Leedy Diane Bomar
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On Jan 14, 2015, at 16:18, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

Actually turn that off and simply do a vo shift m on the app file. this will 
make you more secure.  All you need to do then is just hit open once and it 
will never bug you again.
> On Jan 14, 2015, at 2:48 PM, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
> 1. Have you copied it to your applications folder?
> 2. have you set up permission to install apps from anywhere in your system 
> preferences?
> 
> David Griffith 
>> On 14 Jan 2015, at 22:35, George Cham  wrote:
>> 
>> Ive asked this question before , but its been a long time since I’ve done it.
>> I’m trying to install the sendspace wizard on the mac.
>> I downloaded the disc image , opened it wit, and it shows me the sendspace 
>> app.
>> I open it, but its not installing on the mac.
>> Can anyone help please?
>> 
>> George Cham
>> george.c...@mac-access.net
>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: University reading and DRM on web

[Diane Bomare]

If this has already been explained, I apologize for the repetition.
PDF files are often produced as am image, or picture of text. This is very 
different from a PDF file that has been entered via typing or using optical 
character recognition. To someone visually reading, it is usually impossible to 
tell the difference. But, for those of us who cannot visually see a picture on 
the screen, the document appears to be blank. Run the image through sofware 
that will perform OCR, and you will be able to read the document. Sometimes, 
the format gets messed up, in which case, one must reprocess the image with 
adjustments to the OCR application to accommodate the format that is desired.

It is important to let your university understand what the problem actually is, 
so that, in future, they will save documents via OCR rather than by just taking 
a picture with a scanner.
HTH,

Leedy Diane Bomar
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On Dec 10, 2014, at 03:00, Ian Harrison  
wrote:

Dear All.
I am having real problems with my degree and it is stumping my University IT 
team as well.

I am often given links to e books to read. I am usually given two options - 
download a pdf or read online. I have permission to do so. The downloaded pdfs 
appear blank, just constantly saying "new line, new line" in preview. When I 
try to read online I cannot seem to access the text to start reading. My wife 
says the text is there but I can't get the voice over cursor into the document. 
I don't know if it is a frames issue or a DRM problem.

Has anyone out there solved this or come across the same?

Thanks in advance.
Ian
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