Re: [Mac-access]: sorted out my voiceover startup issue.

2015-04-27 Thread John Panarese
  No, you need to toggle on VO if you have FileVault enabled.  I use it on my 
laptop for security purposes. Otherwise, as long as you have it set to 
automatically start in the login window, it should work on non-FileVault 
systems.


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 On Apr 27, 2015, at 8:28 AM, blind man blindma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It seems I’ve sorted out my voiceover auto-startup issue.
 
 It would appear that if you have file vault enabled, it won’t start 
 automatically. I’ve since turned it off and tested it with a restart and it 
 comes up talking.
 
 Thanks to everyone for your suggestions. It seems it was my own mistake that 
 I never even gave a thought until just now.
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Top Sites

2015-04-23 Thread John Panarese
   Yes, if I'm dealing with a large list, I will use the trackpad to scroll up 
or down.  If there is a keyboard shortcut to do this, I am not aware of it.  I 
never like to say it might not exist because I've been proven wrong before.


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 On Apr 23, 2015, at 12:39 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You can also hid ehtr top sites from ou bu accessibng the view menu. I can't 
 recall where it is in said menu but it is there.
 
 Take care. 
 On Apr 23, 2015, at 5:56 AM, Eleanor burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 go into bookmarks our favourites and delete them from there.
 
 
 
 On 23 Apr 2015, at 13:42, Esther Kinsman ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com 
 wrote:
 
 When I open safari there is a number of sites listed that I used previously 
 but would like to delete now.  Can anyone tell me how to delete them?
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: moving to top or bottom of document

2015-04-23 Thread John Panarese
It depends on what kind of list you are in.  Be sure you are interacting 
first and try option-up or option-down arrow.  Also, control-option-shift-home 
or end on a full sized keyboard.  On a laptop, shift-FN-control-option-left or 
right arrow.

   In text, command-up and command-down arrow will take you to the top or 
bottom of the document.


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 On Apr 23, 2015, at 8:30 AM, Esther Kinsman ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com 
 wrote:
 
 This doesn't work for me!  Any other suggestions?
 - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 4:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: moving to top or bottom of document
 
 
 Huh? option up and down arrow move me up to the top and bottom of a list all 
 the time.  If that fails try cmd up and down arrow. Page down and and up 
 don't and will nevr work, at least they have not for me in 5 years.
 On Apr 22, 2015, at 11:00 AM, Esther kinsman 
 ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com wrote:
 
 No this only moves the curser one line at a time - I was looking to move 
 page up or down or go to home or end of page or document.
 On Apr 21, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello. Normally cmd up and down arrow will do this for you.
 
 Take care.
 On Apr 21, 2015, at 9:53 AM, Esther Kinsman 
 ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com wrote:
 
 Hi:\
 
 Is there a quick way to move to the top or bottom of a document, list of 
 email messages, etc?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Mac accessibility

2015-04-23 Thread John Panarese
I'm still not sure what you are describing. When does this happen?  Are you 
holding down the arrow keys too long?  


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 On Apr 23, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Esther kinsman ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 When it repeats it sounds like a woodpecker!!!  It happens mostly in mail or 
 on web sites.On Apr 23, 2015, at 10:17 AM, John Panarese 
 jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
  What do you mean by repeating?  Also, where is it occurring?
 
 
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 On Apr 23, 2015, at 8:40 AM, Esther Kinsman ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com 
 wrote:
 
 Somewhere along the way I was led to think the Mac with voice over was easy 
 to work but am quickly learning differently.  My key board seems to be 
 repeating on the arrow keys?  I got the keyboard replaced but it is still 
 doing it - and I set the repeat to none on the keyboard settings.  Has 
 anyone else had this problem?
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: moving to top or bottom of document

2015-04-23 Thread John Panarese
   I'mnot sure what you are asking?  Do you mean while viewing the messages 
themselves? 

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 On Apr 23, 2015, at 9:38 AM, Esther kinsman ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hey, it works!  Now what do I do when I am in a table - for example if I am 
 in the mail box how do I move up and down in multiple lines.
 On Apr 23, 2015, at 10:16 AM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
   It depends on what kind of list you are in.  Be sure you are interacting 
 first and try option-up or option-down arrow.  Also, 
 control-option-shift-home or end on a full sized keyboard.  On a laptop, 
 shift-FN-control-option-left or right arrow.
 
  In text, command-up and command-down arrow will take you to the top or 
 bottom of the document.
 
 
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 On Apr 23, 2015, at 8:30 AM, Esther Kinsman ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com 
 wrote:
 
 This doesn't work for me!  Any other suggestions?
 - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 4:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: moving to top or bottom of document
 
 
 Huh? option up and down arrow move me up to the top and bottom of a list 
 all the time.  If that fails try cmd up and down arrow. Page down and and 
 up don't and will nevr work, at least they have not for me in 5 years.
 On Apr 22, 2015, at 11:00 AM, Esther kinsman 
 ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com wrote:
 
 No this only moves the curser one line at a time - I was looking to move 
 page up or down or go to home or end of page or document.
 On Apr 21, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello. Normally cmd up and down arrow will do this for you.
 
 Take care.
 On Apr 21, 2015, at 9:53 AM, Esther Kinsman 
 ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com wrote:
 
 Hi:\
 
 Is there a quick way to move to the top or bottom of a document, list 
 of email messages, etc?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: what's the command to find the status bar on a mac?

2015-04-09 Thread John Panarese
  VO-m twice will take you to the Menu Extras area.


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 On Apr 9, 2015, at 12:15 AM, Shaun Oliver blindma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 
 
 I just got myself a new mac book air. I can't seem to remember the command
 to display the status bar.
 
 
 
 Could someone please refresh my memory?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Shaun.
 
 
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: does any one know how i can get of a second user account on my mac?

2015-03-29 Thread John Panarese
   In User and Groups preferences, you will need to unlock the preferences and 
then select the Add New Account option.  Be sure to choose either Standard or 
Admin from the popup menu, depending on which type you desire.


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 On Mar 29, 2015, at 1:18 PM, wui chin Leong adrianleon...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: does any one know how i can get of a second user account on my mac?

2015-03-29 Thread John Panarese
   That is done in Users and Groups preferences then.  Unlock the preferences 
and add a new user as I indicated earlier.


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 i am asking about a second useraccount
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Re: [Mac-access]: does any one know how i can get of a second user account on my mac?

2015-03-29 Thread John Panarese
   I'm not sure if he's asking about an actual user account or a second mail 
account.  These would be entirely different animals.


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 On Mar 29, 2015, at 2:05 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
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 it can also be achieved from within the mail app itself from the menus.
 
 
 
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  In User and Groups preferences, you will need to unlock the preferences and 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Tutorial for Pages???

2015-03-13 Thread John Panarese
Anne Robertson is the person to speak to about Pages.  I believe she's on 
this list or was. I'm not sure about podcasts or such, but she offers training 
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 On Mar 13, 2015, at 7:49 PM, Ann Byrne ann...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Can someone refer me to a document or podcast about using Pages with 
 VoiceOver?
 
 Much thanks,
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Is MS Word Accessible on the Mac?

2015-03-11 Thread John Panarese
   With the Office 2016 preview Microsoft just released, they have somehow ... 
mysteriously  shockingly ... not fixed the ability for VoiceOver to see the 
document content area. The menus and dialogs work well, but you cannot compose 
or read a document ... 


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 I understand that MS Word works on the iPhone with voiceOver.  Does it also 
 work on the Mac?
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Teaching materials?

2015-03-10 Thread John Panarese
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but you are certainly welcome to download anything from my website.  All of the 
material is free to the community. I would be glad to help with any training, 
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 On Mar 10, 2015, at 10:59 PM, Ann Byrne ann...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 John,
 
 Are you a Mac instructor?  Do you have teaching materials you could recommend 
 ... or sell?  I am working from Janet Ingber's book from NBP on learning the 
 Mac, but would be interested in more inclusive instruction if it were 
 available.  I teach windows/Office, but have a possible Mac student starting 
 in April ... and obviously I am unprepared!  (LOL)
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: read/write permissions

2015-03-09 Thread John Panarese
   OK, if that didn't fix it, you might have to just reinstall the operating 
system, unfortunately.  There might be command line tools that someone else is 
aware of, but that's beyond my knowledge.


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 On Mar 9, 2015, at 8:30 PM, Ann Byrne ann...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Nope.  No dice.  Drat and blast!
 At 04:09 PM 3/8/2015, you wrote:
  Have you tried resetting all permissions from the recovery HD? You'd need 
 to boot into it with command-r, and then after turning on VoiceOver, select, 
 Terminal, from the Utilities menu.  You would type, resetpassword as one 
 word, and from that dialog, you can reset all of your permissions in one 
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  On Mar 8, 2015, at 5:00 PM, Ann Byrne ann...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
  No.  I have messed up permissions Mac-wide.  I can't save a new file.  I 
  can't change an old file.  Safari won't stay connected for more than a few 
  seconds.  Some people shouldn't be allowed to touch a computer!  (LOL)
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Can't write to existing files; can't create new ones

2015-03-09 Thread John Panarese
   This is really odd. I've never heard of this occurring.  Did you do an erase 
and then restore?


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 I restored the opearting system from the recovery partition and the 
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Re: [Mac-access]: read/write permissions

2015-03-08 Thread John Panarese
  Have you tried resetting all permissions from the recovery HD? You'd need to 
boot into it with command-r, and then after turning on VoiceOver, select, 
Terminal, from the Utilities menu.  You would type, resetpassword as one word, 
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 No.  I have messed up permissions Mac-wide.  I can't save a new file.  I 
 can't change an old file.  Safari won't stay connected for more than a few 
 seconds.  Some people shouldn't be allowed to touch a computer!  (LOL)
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: I'm having a strange issue with my trash

2015-02-15 Thread John Panarese
  You can see the Trash folder by using the goto option from the go menu in 
Finder.  I'm just not sure if it's advisable to just delete the whole folder.  
Did you try resetting permissions from the reset password dialog in the 
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 On Feb 15, 2015, at 10:30 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I did google the error and tried the steps outlined which envolved repairing 
 the disk itself, but the disk is ok, so now I'm even more stumpped. My 
 internal volume is ok though I already tested this. 
 On Feb 15, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 have you plugged in all drives particularly the one you are deleting from?as 
 I know you are quite an expert on the Mac I am wondering have you googled 
 the error?
 
 
 
 On 15 Feb 2015, at 18:40, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello to all. I'm having  a strange issue with my trash. I have no clue 
 when it started probably yesterday. basically I can't remove anything. I 
 see the items on the drive I want to remove but when I do a cmd del I get 
 this.
 
 The operation can’t be completed because one or more required items can’t 
 be found.
 (Error code -43)
 How am I going to resolve it. I don't want to do an rm on everything from 
 now on.  that would be not cool, and I can't really restart right now as 
 I'm in the middle of a big download.
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: mail has no windows

2015-01-03 Thread John Panarese
  From the Apple menu, arrow down to, Force Quit.  Then, select Mail from the 
table and confirm you want to force quit it.


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 On Jan 3, 2015, at 4:43 PM, Ann Byrne ann...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
I am trying to shut down the Mac, but it won't shut down because mail 
 is open.  When I alt-tab to mail it says 'mail has no windows'.  Command-w 
 and command-q are dimmed.  In the context menu i don't find an item to force 
 shutdown for mail.  How do I close the mail program??
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: spell checking key short cut

2014-12-28 Thread John Panarese
   Command-semi-colon is the highlight next misspelled word and 
command-shift-semi-colon starts the universal spellchecker.  If you are on a 
misspelled word and are navigating through the word by characters, you can 
choose suggestions from the floating window when you hear the bubble popping 
sound.  Press the down arrow and then the right or left arrows to review the 
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 On Dec 28, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Mark Furness flintma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What is the short cut to start select and choose a replacement?
 
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Re: OS 10.10, does it still support the Reinstall option from the Recovery Partition?

2014-10-23 Thread John Panarese
   Command-r restarts in recovery mode.  Then, you have to start VoiceOver with 
command-F5.  You will have all of the options from there.


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 On Oct 23, 2014, at 3:49 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 Question says it all.
 
 I’m wondering this as I wish to do a reinstall of the OS on my Macbook Pro 
 but can’t bring up the recovery boot process, I shut the computer down and 
 then restart whilst holding down the option key, I hold this down for 15 
 seconds or so.
 
 Then I use the left arrow key to hopefully select the recovery utility or 
 whatever its called and then press enter but unfortunately the Macbook boots 
 up as it normally should.
 
 Yes, I’ve tried hitting the right arrow after releasing the option key at 
 start-up smile.
 
 I take it the option key is the key next to command?
 
 
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Re: how to wipe my entire Mac drive including all partitions?

2014-07-25 Thread John Panarese
   you are selecting the item on the table that has the drive manufacture. That 
is the item you use to wipe the whole drive.  Not Macintosh HD.


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On Jul 25, 2014, at 10:13 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 hey,
 every time i do this, the  partition options are grade out.
 i’m really getting desperate.
 thanks
 
 Michael
 On 26 Jul 2014, at 12:10 pm, John Gunn g...@tznet.com wrote:
 
 Michael,
 
 Since you can boot from an external drive, start Disk Utility, and choose 
 the internal drive.  Don't choose one of the partitions, choose where it 
 says numbers or the name of the drive.
 
 Next choose the partitions and choose 1 partition.
 
 John
 
 
 On Jul 25, 2014, at 8:10 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 hey all,
 this morning i made myself a bootible installer drive for the mac. now that 
 this is done i want to know how to entirely wipe my internal Mac hard drive.
 i want everything gone including all partitions, basically a factory reset.
 i have an external drive that i can boot in to with a Mavericks installer 
 ready to go.
 i have tried going in to recovery and using disk utility to try and erase 
 everything but to no avail.
 i have 1TB of space lost because of this stupid damn partition and i want 
 it back.
 am i able to wipe all partitions and start again using my external 
 installation media?
 thanks for any help
 
 Michael
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Re: how to wipe my entire Mac drive including all partitions?

2014-07-25 Thread John Panarese
   You are electing the item from the table that has the maker of the drive.  
Something like, 500 GB Mitsubishi  or something like that?  You don't want 
Macintosh HD.  You should have the Erase tab with 4 others.


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On Jul 25, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 hey,
 when i select drive name that says the manufacturer i only get two tabs, 
 first aide and partition. i get nothing else.
 I have been working on this for a day and a half and am about to blow my top 
 with the mac.
 is there anything else i can do to fix this problem?
 thanks for all your suggestions.
 
 Michael
 On 26 Jul 2014, at 12:20 pm, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
  you are selecting the item on the table that has the drive manufacture. 
 That is the item you use to wipe the whole drive.  Not Macintosh HD.
 
 
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 On Jul 25, 2014, at 10:13 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 hey,
 every time i do this, the  partition options are grade out.
 i’m really getting desperate.
 thanks
 
 Michael
 On 26 Jul 2014, at 12:10 pm, John Gunn g...@tznet.com wrote:
 
 Michael,
 
 Since you can boot from an external drive, start Disk Utility, and choose 
 the internal drive.  Don't choose one of the partitions, choose where it 
 says numbers or the name of the drive.
 
 Next choose the partitions and choose 1 partition.
 
 John
 
 
 On Jul 25, 2014, at 8:10 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 hey all,
 this morning i made myself a bootible installer drive for the mac. now 
 that this is done i want to know how to entirely wipe my internal Mac 
 hard drive.
 i want everything gone including all partitions, basically a factory 
 reset.
 i have an external drive that i can boot in to with a Mavericks installer 
 ready to go.
 i have tried going in to recovery and using disk utility to try and erase 
 everything but to no avail.
 i have 1TB of space lost because of this stupid damn partition and i want 
 it back.
 am i able to wipe all partitions and start again using my external 
 installation media?
 thanks for any help
 
 Michael
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Re: how to wipe my entire Mac drive including all partitions?

2014-07-25 Thread John Panarese
   Is this a SSD?  If so, you want the top Maciintosh HD.  What kind of system 
are you on?


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On Jul 25, 2014, at 10:41 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 hey john,
 all i get is this Macintosh HD”
 under that are the main volume Macintosh HD and the broken partition is under 
 that.
 i get no make or manufacturer and i never have on the mac.
 thanks again
 
 Michael  
 On 26 Jul 2014, at 12:35 pm, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
  You are electing the item from the table that has the maker of the drive.  
 Something like, 500 GB Mitsubishi  or something like that?  You don't want 
 Macintosh HD.  You should have the Erase tab with 4 others.
 
 
 Take Care
 
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 On Jul 25, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 hey,
 when i select drive name that says the manufacturer i only get two tabs, 
 first aide and partition. i get nothing else.
 I have been working on this for a day and a half and am about to blow my 
 top with the mac.
 is there anything else i can do to fix this problem?
 thanks for all your suggestions.
 
 Michael
 On 26 Jul 2014, at 12:20 pm, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 you are selecting the item on the table that has the drive manufacture. 
 That is the item you use to wipe the whole drive.  Not Macintosh HD.
 
 
 Take Care
 
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 Mac for the Blind
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 On Jul 25, 2014, at 10:13 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 hey,
 every time i do this, the  partition options are grade out.
 i’m really getting desperate.
 thanks
 
 Michael
 On 26 Jul 2014, at 12:10 pm, John Gunn g...@tznet.com wrote:
 
 Michael,
 
 Since you can boot from an external drive, start Disk Utility, and 
 choose the internal drive.  Don't choose one of the partitions, choose 
 where it says numbers or the name of the drive.
 
 Next choose the partitions and choose 1 partition.
 
 John
 
 
 On Jul 25, 2014, at 8:10 PM, Michael Marshall 
 mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 hey all,
 this morning i made myself a bootible installer drive for the mac. now 
 that this is done i want to know how to entirely wipe my internal Mac 
 hard drive.
 i want everything gone including all partitions, basically a factory 
 reset.
 i have an external drive that i can boot in to with a Mavericks 
 installer ready to go.
 i have tried going in to recovery and using disk utility to try and 
 erase everything but to no avail.
 i have 1TB of space lost because of this stupid damn partition and i 
 want it back.
 am i able to wipe all partitions and start again using my external 
 installation media?
 thanks for any help
 
 Michael
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Re: how to wipe my entire Mac drive including all partitions?

2014-07-25 Thread John Panarese
   But is it a Fussion drive?  Write me off list.


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On Jul 25, 2014, at 10:52 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 hey,
 this is not an SSD.
 am using a 2013 27 inch iMac with spinning drive.
 Michael
 On 26 Jul 2014, at 12:46 pm, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
  Is this a SSD?  If so, you want the top Maciintosh HD.  What kind of system 
 are you on?
 
 
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 On Jul 25, 2014, at 10:41 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 hey john,
 all i get is this Macintosh HD”
 under that are the main volume Macintosh HD and the broken partition is 
 under that.
 i get no make or manufacturer and i never have on the mac.
 thanks again
 
 Michael  
 On 26 Jul 2014, at 12:35 pm, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 You are electing the item from the table that has the maker of the drive.  
 Something like, 500 GB Mitsubishi  or something like that?  You don't want 
 Macintosh HD.  You should have the Erase tab with 4 others.
 
 
 Take Care
 
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 On Jul 25, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 hey,
 when i select drive name that says the manufacturer i only get two tabs, 
 first aide and partition. i get nothing else.
 I have been working on this for a day and a half and am about to blow my 
 top with the mac.
 is there anything else i can do to fix this problem?
 thanks for all your suggestions.
 
 Michael
 On 26 Jul 2014, at 12:20 pm, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net 
 wrote:
 
 you are selecting the item on the table that has the drive manufacture. 
 That is the item you use to wipe the whole drive.  Not Macintosh HD.
 
 
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 On Jul 25, 2014, at 10:13 PM, Michael Marshall 
 mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 hey,
 every time i do this, the  partition options are grade out.
 i’m really getting desperate.
 thanks
 
 Michael
 On 26 Jul 2014, at 12:10 pm, John Gunn g...@tznet.com wrote:
 
 Michael,
 
 Since you can boot from an external drive, start Disk Utility, and 
 choose the internal drive.  Don't choose one of the partitions, choose 
 where it says numbers or the name of the drive.
 
 Next choose the partitions and choose 1 partition.
 
 John
 
 
 On Jul 25, 2014, at 8:10 PM, Michael Marshall 
 mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 hey all,
 this morning i made myself a bootible installer drive for the mac. 
 now that this is done i want to know how to entirely wipe my internal 
 Mac hard drive.
 i want everything gone including all partitions, basically a factory 
 reset.
 i have an external drive that i can boot in to with a Mavericks 
 installer ready to go.
 i have tried going in to recovery and using disk utility to try and 
 erase everything but to no avail.
 i have 1TB of space lost because of this stupid damn partition and i 
 want it back.
 am i able to wipe all partitions and start again using my external 
 installation media?
 thanks for any help
 
 Michael
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Re: Backing-Up To External Hard Drive

2014-07-11 Thread John Panarese
   When you plug the external drive into your Mac, you should be prompted if 
you want to use it as a Time Machine backup.  Remember that Time Machine erases 
all data from a partition, so if you have data on the drive, be aware of that 
fact.

 If Time Machine doesn't come up, go into System Preferences and choose, 
Time Machine.  You will then select, Change Disk, and pick your external drive 
from the table.  Once you do this, navigate to, Choose disk, and the process 
should begin shortly after that.


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On Jul 11, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
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 I would like to do a back-up to my external hard drive, I know it is done 
 through time machine.  Would someone be kind enough as to tell me step by 
 step how to do this?  For instance, do I have to highlight the external hard 
 drive first before going in to time machine, etc.
 
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Re: Formatting an External Hard Drive

2014-07-11 Thread John Panarese
   With Time Machine, it should automatically format it for you.  That's why I 
warned you about data being erased because that happens during the process.


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 How do I format an external hard drive to work on my Mac?  Prior to this I 
 used it for backing up Windows files. 
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Re: Backing-Up To External Hard Drive

2014-07-11 Thread John Panarese
   If you have a backup already on it, you will have to erase the disk first 
then.


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On Jul 11, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
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 What about the current back-up John, does it get over-ridden?  I do not want 
 to keep it.  No time machine did not come up when I plugged in the disk, I 
 wonder why this is.
 
 Eleanor
 - Original Message - From: John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net
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 Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 8:59 PM
 Subject: Re: Backing-Up To External Hard Drive
 
 
  When you plug the external drive into your Mac, you should be prompted if 
 you want to use it as a Time Machine backup.  Remember that Time Machine 
 erases all data from a partition, so if you have data on the drive, be aware 
 of that fact.
 
If Time Machine doesn't come up, go into System Preferences and choose, 
 Time Machine.  You will then select, Change Disk, and pick your external 
 drive from the table.  Once you do this, navigate to, Choose disk, and the 
 process should begin shortly after that.
 
 
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 On Jul 11, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
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 I would like to do a back-up to my external hard drive, I know it is done 
 through time machine.  Would someone be kind enough as to tell me step by 
 step how to do this?  For instance, do I have to highlight the external 
 hard drive first before going in to time machine, etc.
 
 Eleanor
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Re: Backing-Up To External Hard Drive

2014-07-11 Thread John Panarese
  Well, remember that Time Machine will eventually fill a disk over time.  If 
you want, you can partition it in half.


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On Jul 11, 2014, at 4:10 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am re-reading what you say here John, now it is a 1TB drive and so far 
 nothing else on it but it would seem a bit wasteful to use a 1TB drive simply 
 for back-up purposes.  I am wondering if I shoudld partition the drive in 
 that case.  Alternatively I do have a 125GB drive and wonder is this too 
 small to back up my hard drive if that drive is 128GB.  I would not have 
 128GB of data on my Mac but it might be best to use this external drive 
 instead rather than the large one.
 - Original Message - From: John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 8:59 PM
 Subject: Re: Backing-Up To External Hard Drive
 
 
  When you plug the external drive into your Mac, you should be prompted if 
 you want to use it as a Time Machine backup.  Remember that Time Machine 
 erases all data from a partition, so if you have data on the drive, be aware 
 of that fact.
 
If Time Machine doesn't come up, go into System Preferences and choose, 
 Time Machine.  You will then select, Change Disk, and pick your external 
 drive from the table.  Once you do this, navigate to, Choose disk, and the 
 process should begin shortly after that.
 
 
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 On Jul 11, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I would like to do a back-up to my external hard drive, I know it is done 
 through time machine.  Would someone be kind enough as to tell me step by 
 step how to do this?  For instance, do I have to highlight the external 
 hard drive first before going in to time machine, etc.
 
 Eleanor
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Re: Backing-Up To External Hard Drive

2014-07-11 Thread John Panarese
   Remember that Time Machine backs up your system on a schedule.  If you are 
only going to plug in the drive 4 times a year, that's fine, but that's 
probably not wise.  I'd do it a lot more than that and reserve a partition for 
back ups.

I believe on my website in the, How To for Mac OS X, pages, have an 
explanation someone wrote in how to partition a drive.  It's actually not that 
difficult, but you can contact me off list if you need a hand.


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On Jul 11, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am not completely clear so let me ask the following questions?
 1. Is there anywhere I can read about dividing an external drive?
 2 If I was doing a back up 4 times a year for example, I would not want to 
 keep each back up only the most recent one so I am not clear what you have 
 already said about time machine erasing and in another e-mail you said time 
 machine would fill the disk over time.
 
 - Original Message - From: John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:19 PM
 Subject: Re: Backing-Up To External Hard Drive
 
 
   In Disk Utility, select the external drive and then the tease tab.  You 
 should then be able to erase the disk.
 
 
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 On Jul 11, 2014, at 4:16 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 How do I erase the disk?
 - Original Message - From: John Panarese 
 jpanar...@mac-access.net
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:15 PM
 Subject: Re: Backing-Up To External Hard Drive
 
 
 If you have a backup already on it, you will have to erase the disk first 
 then.
 
 
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 On Jul 11, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What about the current back-up John, does it get over-ridden?  I do not 
 want to keep it.  No time machine did not come up when I plugged in the 
 disk, I wonder why this is.
 
 Eleanor
 - Original Message - From: John Panarese 
 jpanar...@mac-access.net
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 8:59 PM
 Subject: Re: Backing-Up To External Hard Drive
 
 
 When you plug the external drive into your Mac, you should be prompted 
 if you want to use it as a Time Machine backup.  Remember that Time 
 Machine erases all data from a partition, so if you have data on the 
 drive, be aware of that fact.
 
  If Time Machine doesn't come up, go into System Preferences and choose, 
 Time Machine.  You will then select, Change Disk, and pick your external 
 drive from the table.  Once you do this, navigate to, Choose disk, and 
 the process should begin shortly after that.
 
 
 Take Care
 
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 On Jul 11, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I would like to do a back-up to my external hard drive, I know it is 
 done through time machine.  Would someone be kind enough as to tell me 
 step by step how to do this?  For instance, do I have to highlight the 
 external hard drive first before going in to time machine, etc.
 
 Eleanor
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Re: how do I add the text edit application to the Dock?

2014-06-17 Thread John Panarese
   There are a few ways, but this is probably easiest.

1. In Finder, press command-shift-a to open your Application folder.
2. Hit the letter, t, to jump down to Text Edit.  If this doesn't work, you 
might have to navigate down to it.
3. In Mountain Lion, press command-shift-t to add Text Edit to the Dock.


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On Jun 17, 2014, at 3:17 PM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:

 
 
 Hi Everyone 
 
 Please could someone offer step by step instructions on how to add the text
 edit application to the dock on a Mac book pro running Mountain lion?
 
 Many thanks in advance
 
 Kind regards
 
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Re: Rearranging Apps In The Doc

2014-06-17 Thread John Panarese
   Use option-command-left or right arrow to push an item on the Dock in a 
specific direction.  As it is moved, VoiceOver will let you know where the icon 
was moved.


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 On Jun 17, 2014, at 7:29 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi All
 
 This is a follow-up to the question regarding how to place an app on the doc. 
 If one chooses to rearrange the apps on the doc, how is this performed? Even 
 though one can do letter navigation, I would like to group certain apps 
 together. Is this possible? 
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: creating a signature at the bottom of my email messages on mac

2014-06-08 Thread John Panarese
   In the demonstrations section of my website, I did a podcast on creating and 
using mail signatures.  If that isn't clear to you, please let me know and I'll 
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On Jun 8, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Laurel and Stockard laurel.stock...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi guys,
 When I use the mail app on my iPhone I can have a set signature that gets 
 inserted directly at the end of my message, but i can't seem to make that 
 work on the mac the same way. I'd like to have a set signature at the bottom 
 of my email messages. I tried this once before but it placed my signature at 
 the bottom of the entire email thread, like below my message and the message 
 or messages that I was replying to. I want my signature to go only directly 
 below my message, and I don't want to have to physically write out the whole 
 thing. How can I get this done? Ideally, I'd like my name and personal 
 website included, but like I said, I don't wanna have to write the whole 
 thing out.
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Re: Can my mac manage a parallel port for embossing?

2014-06-02 Thread John Panarese
   Why don't you use Louis combined with the Index Braille printer app for the 
Mac?  I do that successfully here.


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On Jun 2, 2014, at 7:16 AM, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote:

 Hello All,
 
 I’m trying to get an old Index Basic working with my Mac Mini. I have an USB 
 2 Paralle. I have installed a USB 2 Serial driver to try the serial route. In 
 the system report; That it sees an IEEE-1284 device and has this listing.
 
 IEEE-1284 Controller:
 
  Product ID:  0x2305
  Vendor ID:   0x067b  (Prolific Technology, Inc.)
  Version:  2.00
  Speed:   Up to 12 Mb/sec
  Manufacturer:Prolific Technology Inc.
  Location ID: 0x1440 / 2
  Current Available (mA):  500
  Current Required (mA):   100
 
 In linux I would now echo something to the /dev listing but I don’t know if 
 it is listed in /dev. The add printer tool doesn’t allow you to specify USB 
 or Parallel connection. What on earth does it mean by offering fax, ip and 
 window?
 
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Re: Can my mac manage a parallel port for embossing?

2014-06-02 Thread John Panarese
   I directly connect using the USB port.  If you have an older Index, I 
believe the serial to USB converter will work.  I've never tried the parallel 
connection.


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On Jun 2, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote:

 
 Hello John,
 
 Thanks for the heads up on that.
 
 However, do you use parallel or serial connection, with a USB converter?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Gena
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  Why don't you use Louis combined with the Index Braille printer app for the 
 Mac?  I do that successfully here.
 
 
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 On Jun 2, 2014, at 7:16 AM, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote:
 
 Hello All,
 
 I’m trying to get an old Index Basic working with my Mac Mini. I have an 
 USB 2 Paralle. I have installed a USB 2 Serial driver to try the serial 
 route. In the system report; That it sees an IEEE-1284 device and has this 
 listing.
 
 IEEE-1284 Controller:
 
 Product ID: 0x2305
 Vendor ID:  0x067b  (Prolific Technology, Inc.)
 Version: 2.00
 Speed:  Up to 12 Mb/sec
 Manufacturer:   Prolific Technology Inc.
 Location ID:0x1440 / 2
 Current Available (mA): 500
 Current Required (mA):  100
 
 In linux I would now echo something to the /dev listing but I don’t know if 
 it is listed in /dev. The add printer tool doesn’t allow you to specify USB 
 or Parallel connection. What on earth does it mean by offering fax, ip and 
 window?
 
 Does anyone use an old parallel or serial on a new Mac? If so, how did you 
 configure it?
 
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Re: Creating a bel file on the Mac platform?

2014-06-02 Thread John Panarese
   You have to select the file first in the document tab.  Make sure there are 
no spaces in the output file name.  Then, select the translate tab.  The output 
file will be a brl file.


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On Jun 2, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote:

 Hello All,
 
 I can’t get any thing from nfbtrans, so how do you generate a brl file for 
 Louis?
 
 Thanks.
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Re: iCloud on the mac

2014-05-23 Thread John Panarese
   In System Preferences, there is an iCloud pane.  All of the services are 
found in that pane.


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On May 23, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Margaret margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was talking to someone the other day and they asked me where would they 
 find iCloud on their mac book pro.  I had a mental block and I can't remember 
 where to find iCloud   I am hoping someone can help me and tell me where to 
 find iCloud. 
 
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Re: Tabbed windows in Finder

2014-05-01 Thread John Panarese
   You would need to disable tabs in the General Preferences of Finder.  This 
will return the behavior you are used to.


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On May 1, 2014, at 5:04 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:

 Hello 
 
 On MacOS before Mavericks the following used to work.
 
 1. I would open computer with shift command C.
 2. I would navigate to a drive and folder location and select a folder or
 files to copy.
 3.  I would open a second computer window command shift C to navigate to a
 location where I would paste the files or folder that I had copied. This
 could be, for example , copying RNIB Daisy Books onto an SD card.
 4. I would then use command accent to cycle through Finder Windows to return
 to the Finder Window I had copied from to identify and then copy further
 files to paste onto the SD Card or other media. I would then use command
 accent to again cycle through windows to return to the media I am copying
 the files or folder to.
 
 Since installing Mavericks Finder no longer appears to allow me to keep
 Windows open once you navigate away from them. This means that when I use
 command accent to cycle through open windows I have only the options of the
 current window and desktop as destinations.
 This currently makes locating and then copying files like Daisy Books onto
 media  like SD cards unnecessarily time consuming. I am currently having to
 open a fresh computer window and identify the SD card for each time I want
 to copy a folder to it. Similarly every time I want to go to my Daisy Books
 folder I again have to start from scratch. I have set up an alias for the
 Daisy Book folder to reduce the inconvenience but I believe that I must be
 using the wrong technique for Mavericks.
 
 I suspect that this all relates to the new Tab feature  in Finder but so far
 experimenting with this I cannot find a process which is as efficient as the
 one I used to use . 
 Is there anybody using tabbed windows under Mavericks  Finder who can advise
 me of a better way of doing what I want to do?
 
 David Griffith
 
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Re: reinstalling ml when you have file vault on

2014-04-20 Thread John Panarese
   If the Time Machine backup is not encrypted, you should be able to migrate 
your data as normal.  At least, I'm pretty certain of that.


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On Apr 20, 2014, at 12:06 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello to all. Let's ay hypothetically I reformat my hard drive and reinstall 
 ml from total scratch, on to a blank disk. I have file vault on my prior 
 install and have been using time machine to back up my stuff. The time 
 machine disk is not incripted.
 
 Question. will I still be able to restore my data? or will I have to wait 
 until the os is installed then some how use migration assistent to copy tghe 
 stuff that should be incripted on to my internal drive. Keep in mine that 
 during the reinstall on to a reformated internal drive that file vailt is not 
 yet inabled on the brand new install.
 
 My train of thought stops here. I guess  what I'm asking is, is this 
 hypothetical reinstall on to this new blank internal drive possible wiht file 
 vault beeing enabled on an old install that is now bcked up to an unincripted 
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Re: Keychane in mavericks

2014-03-28 Thread John Panarese
   In Safari preferences, do you have the checkbox checked for these items.  It 
is under Auto fill.


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 When filling out online order forms, the Keychane feature does not work. 
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Re: Keychane in mavericks

2014-03-28 Thread John Panarese
I am not sure.  Try that and see if it automatically fills them in.  You 
shouldn't have to, but it's worth a try.


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On Mar 28, 2014, at 7:46 PM, George Cham george.c...@mac-access.net wrote:

 
 
 Hi John,
 Yes , its checked under autofil 
 Am i missing something ? Do i have to start typing my credit card details?
 
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 In Safari preferences, do you have the checkbox checked for these items.  
 It is under Auto fill.
 
 
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 When filling out online order forms, the Keychane feature does not work. 
 For example, when I'm asked for my credit card, the details don't pop up 
 automatecly. 
 
 
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Re: Backing up with Superduper

2014-03-10 Thread John Panarese
   If you use the scheduler, it will start in background.  That's how I use it.


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 I've got Superduper up, running and registered. 
 Do I have to have the app open for automatic backup to start? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Time machine backup

2014-03-06 Thread John Panarese
   Yes.  Do a disk verification from Disk Utility and carefully view the log to 
see if it indicates any critical failures.


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On Mar 6, 2014, at 12:01 PM, Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think so yes. Any unusual noise particularly ticking like noises from the 
 drive then it's time for a new one.
 
 Regards Chris
 
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 On 06/03/2014 08:00, George Cham wrote:
 I'm still having issues with the time machine backup.
 The one thing I'm hearing from my external drive, is a clock  like  sound, 
 when it's backing up.
 Could this be the end of this drive?
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: partition

2014-03-04 Thread John Panarese
   If the partition is completely empty, you can just use Disk Utility to 
remove the partition.  I am assuming you are trying to revert back to a single 
partition?  This will not delete the existing data.  


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 I have created 2 partitions on my external hard drive, and have put data on 
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 I want to delete the empty partition , but don’t want to lose data.
 How do i do this?
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Re: partition

2014-03-04 Thread John Panarese
In the table in Disk Utilities, the top item should be the storage device 
itself, which will have the manufacturer and size.  This is what you want to 
select.  Then, navigate to the Partition tab and select it.  From that 
interface, you can choose, remove partition. 


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On Mar 4, 2014, at 5:41 PM, George Cham george.c...@mac-access.net wrote:

 Hi John,
 I tried that, but could not find the empty partition .
 George Cham
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  If the partition is completely empty, you can just use Disk Utility to 
 remove the partition.  I am assuming you are trying to revert back to a 
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 I have created 2 partitions on my external hard drive, and have put data on 
 it.
 I want to delete the empty partition , but don’t want to lose data.
 How do i do this?
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Re: Time machine Backup

2014-03-02 Thread John Panarese
Try the partition tab then.  Select, 1 partition, from the popup menu, 
unless you want more, and then make sure the format and partition scheme are 
set.  Find the, apply, button, and activate it.


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On Mar 2, 2014, at 2:06 PM, George Cham george.c...@mac-access.net wrote:

 I just tried to erase the drive, but got the error message could not unmount 
 disk .
 
 George Cham
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   If it is a system disk, it will be bootable, yes.  So, if there is a 
 system disk on a different partition on the drive.
 
 
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 On Mar 2, 2014, at 12:14 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Oh wow. I did not rtealise it uses the GUID partition. that means in theory 
 only mind you that it should be able to be made bootable, only in theory 
 though if I understand my partition tables correctly.
 
 Take care and be blessed.
 On Mar 1, 2014, at 9:06 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 First erase the drive in Disk Utility.  When you then use it for Time 
 Machine, it should automatically format it.  However, understand that Time 
 Machine uses the GUID Partition scheme and Mac OS Extended Journaling as 
 its format.  This is a Mac specific format and, thus, will not work in 
 Windows.  You can partition the drive so you can use one partition for the 
 Time Machine backup and the other for other data, but you should do this 
 prior to employing Time Machine.
 
 
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 On Mar 1, 2014, at 11:57 PM, George Cham george.c...@mac-access.net 
 wrote:
 
 Ok, do I reformat the drive, and  erase all files  on it? And what if it 
 does not 
 They told me it works on pc and mac  
 work? 
 
 George 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 2 Mar 2014, at 12:14 pm, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hmm interesting. I have never had problems with the time machine backing 
 up in the 4 years since I've used it over a few drives.  That does not 
 mean though they can't happen.
 
 try reformatting the drive and try again and see if it happens. You 
 might have permission problems or something. Not sure.
 
 Tc.
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 Hi Sarah,
 I exchanged the drive , but i think its the mac os thats the problem.
 I get the error message backup failed , time machine can’t create the 
 backup folder 
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 On 1 Mar 2014, at 12:36 pm, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 what error does it give with out back up failed. 7 mb is a bit small 
 for  an initial os back up?
 
 Iv'e gotten that before, is it formatted correctly by the way, mac osx 
 extended journaled?
 
 Take care.
 On Feb 28, 2014, at 4:26 PM, George Cham george.c...@mac-access.net 
 wrote:
 
 I’m having problems with the time machine backup .
 
 I bought a new external hard drive 1TB in size .
 
 I backed up the mack which was 7GB , without movies.
 The Backup is complete , but every hour or so, I get backup failed.
 
 I’m thinking of excluding pictures and music  from the backup, and 
 only backup the operating system .
 
 
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Re: Time machine Backup

2014-03-01 Thread John Panarese
First erase the drive in Disk Utility.  When you then use it for Time 
Machine, it should automatically format it.  However, understand that Time 
Machine uses the GUID Partition scheme and Mac OS Extended Journaling as its 
format.  This is a Mac specific format and, thus, will not work in Windows.  
You can partition the drive so you can use one partition for the Time Machine 
backup and the other for other data, but you should do this prior to employing 
Time Machine.


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On Mar 1, 2014, at 11:57 PM, George Cham george.c...@mac-access.net wrote:

 Ok, do I reformat the drive, and  erase all files  on it? And what if it does 
 not 
 They told me it works on pc and mac  
 work? 
 
 George 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 2 Mar 2014, at 12:14 pm, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hmm interesting. I have never had problems with the time machine backing up 
 in the 4 years since I've used it over a few drives.  That does not mean 
 though they can't happen.
 
 try reformatting the drive and try again and see if it happens. You might 
 have permission problems or something. Not sure.
 
 Tc.
 On Mar 1, 2014, at 11:31 AM, George Cham george.c...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 Hi Sarah,
 I exchanged the drive , but i think its the mac os thats the problem.
 I get the error message backup failed , time machine can’t create the 
 backup folder 
 George Cham
 george.c...@mac-access.net
 
 
 
 On 1 Mar 2014, at 12:36 pm, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 what error does it give with out back up failed. 7 mb is a bit small for  
 an initial os back up?
 
 Iv'e gotten that before, is it formatted correctly by the way, mac osx 
 extended journaled?
 
 Take care.
 On Feb 28, 2014, at 4:26 PM, George Cham george.c...@mac-access.net 
 wrote:
 
 I’m having problems with the time machine backup .
 
 I bought a new external hard drive 1TB in size .
 
 I backed up the mack which was 7GB , without movies.
 The Backup is complete , but every hour or so, I get backup failed.
 
 I’m thinking of excluding pictures and music  from the backup, and only 
 backup the operating system .
 
 
 George Cham
 george.c...@mac-access.net
 
 
 
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Re: Time machine Backup

2014-03-01 Thread John Panarese
If it is a system disk, it will be bootable, yes.  So, if there is a system 
disk on a different partition on the drive.
 

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On Mar 2, 2014, at 12:14 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh wow. I did not rtealise it uses the GUID partition. that means in theory 
 only mind you that it should be able to be made bootable, only in theory 
 though if I understand my partition tables correctly.
 
 Take care and be blessed.
 On Mar 1, 2014, at 9:06 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
   First erase the drive in Disk Utility.  When you then use it for Time 
 Machine, it should automatically format it.  However, understand that Time 
 Machine uses the GUID Partition scheme and Mac OS Extended Journaling as its 
 format.  This is a Mac specific format and, thus, will not work in Windows.  
 You can partition the drive so you can use one partition for the Time 
 Machine backup and the other for other data, but you should do this prior to 
 employing Time Machine.
 
 
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 On Mar 1, 2014, at 11:57 PM, George Cham george.c...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 Ok, do I reformat the drive, and  erase all files  on it? And what if it 
 does not 
 They told me it works on pc and mac  
 work? 
 
 George 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 2 Mar 2014, at 12:14 pm, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hmm interesting. I have never had problems with the time machine backing 
 up in the 4 years since I've used it over a few drives.  That does not 
 mean though they can't happen.
 
 try reformatting the drive and try again and see if it happens. You might 
 have permission problems or something. Not sure.
 
 Tc.
 On Mar 1, 2014, at 11:31 AM, George Cham george.c...@mac-access.net 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Sarah,
 I exchanged the drive , but i think its the mac os thats the problem.
 I get the error message backup failed , time machine can’t create the 
 backup folder 
 George Cham
 george.c...@mac-access.net
 
 
 
 On 1 Mar 2014, at 12:36 pm, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 what error does it give with out back up failed. 7 mb is a bit small for 
  an initial os back up?
 
 Iv'e gotten that before, is it formatted correctly by the way, mac osx 
 extended journaled?
 
 Take care.
 On Feb 28, 2014, at 4:26 PM, George Cham george.c...@mac-access.net 
 wrote:
 
 I’m having problems with the time machine backup .
 
 I bought a new external hard drive 1TB in size .
 
 I backed up the mack which was 7GB , without movies.
 The Backup is complete , but every hour or so, I get backup failed.
 
 I’m thinking of excluding pictures and music  from the backup, and only 
 backup the operating system .
 
 
 George Cham
 george.c...@mac-access.net
 
 
 
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Re: Past Appointments In IOS Calendar

2014-02-23 Thread John Panarese
   I'm not at all sure if this will help, but in Mail Contacts and Calendar 
settings, there is a button for syncing calendar events as far as how far back 
it will go.  I have not messed with this setting, but maybe, this will help?


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On Feb 23, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:

 Hi!
 
 I'm looking through events in my calendar now in order to do some future 
 planning.
 
 These are recurring events and I notice that these events going back to this 
 time last year are still listed in the Calendar and there seems little point 
 for them to be there given that they're all well in the past now so brings up 
 the question, can you stop Calendar keeping past events or at least control 
 how much in the past the events are pept for? I mean if the events were kept 
 for the last month or two then it wouldn't be so much of an irritation.
 
 
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Re: Help with calendar

2014-02-01 Thread John Panarese
   Calendar isn't difficult to wrap ones brain around.  It's a matter of 
understanding the interface and locating the calendar grid.  You must interact 
with the grid to then navigate through the days of the month or week.  You can 
have a year, month of week view and this impacts what you find when you 
interact with the grid.

   Specifically, what do you want to know.  I'd be happy to answer any 
questions, as I use the calendar every day.


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On Feb 1, 2014, at 10:59 PM, Margaret margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 
 I have a mac book pro and I'm using mavericks   Can someone tell me how to 
 use calendar or tell me where can I go to find step by step instructions. 
 
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Re: Anyone successfully using iBooks on Maverick?

2014-01-08 Thread John Panarese
   It depends on the layout of the book.  I've read about six books using 
iBooks on the Mac.  A lot of buttons are not labeled, but you can use 
VO-shift-h to have them identified and then use VO-slash to label them yourself.


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On Jan 8, 2014, at 1:51 PM, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote:

 Hello, 
 Is anyone successfully using iBooks on Maverick with VoiceOver? Or is iBooks 
 on Maverick not yet fully accessible? 
 
 First I have just opened a newly purchased iBook on Maverick and find that 
 the scroll area contains 4 html files each corresponding to different parts 
 of the book. I do not understand what is going on here. Opening a different 
 book only has 3 html files in the scroll area. 
 
 Second if I press command+t to open the table of contents I see a new window 
 containing a table (I know it is a new window because I see it in the list of 
 windows displayed by VO+F2). Unfortunately if I interact with that table the 
 table goes away and the window containing that table closes. the same thing 
 happens if I look at bookmarks. 
 
 I mostly want to access the table of contents and use that to go to a desired 
 section of the book. I also want to stop reading the book now and later 
 return to where I left off. Is this possible on Maverick? 
 
 Fortunately iBooks works much better on my iPhone 3GS under IOS 6. 
 
 Should I expect iBooks to work OK with VoiceOver on Maverick? If so what am I 
 doing wrong? 
 
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Re: converting audible files to mp3

2014-01-02 Thread John Panarese
  It's not free, but Audio Book Converter is accessible.  I just don't recall 
how much it was.



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On Jan 2, 2014, at 9:04 PM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anyone know of an app for the Mac that will convert books from Audible 
 to mp3 files? I thought that Switch would do it, but that doesn't seem to be 
 the case, unless there is a plugin that I'm missing.
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: When adding an event in Calendar in Mavericks, how do you actually say you're done, and add the event?

2013-12-30 Thread John Panarese
   You have to use the Window Chooser menu and find the inspector window again. 
 Then, navigate to the, Close, button.  Sometimes, you don't have to do this, 
but more times than not, I've found it is necessary or the inspector window 
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On Dec 30, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote:

 Hi all, In Mavericks, they changed some things with Calendar, and what I 
 can’t figure out, is how to actually add an event into a calendar.  I’ve got 
 it all filled out, but I can’t seem to find a -way to actually add it, there 
 doesn’t appear  to be a done button, an add button, or anything like that, 
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Re: Grappling with iTunes again.

2013-12-25 Thread John Panarese
   Command-right arrow on the Mac goes to the next track and command-left arrow 
goes back to previous track.  Spacebar pauses and resumes play.  
Command-option-jright and left arrows acts as a fast forward and rewind.


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On Dec 25, 2013, at 7:02 AM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:

 I have decided to give iTunes another go but am still struggling with the
 basics. I know others have struggled with this on this list.
 
 I am trying to sort by Artist then album and play the Track of that album. I
 can manage this fine on   My iPhone but on a Computer whether Mac or PC this
 is much harder to accomplish.
 
 As far as I can tell without sight, iTunes has a player console which is
 completely separate from the file list. If the keyboard focus is on this
 player console then pressing space on the play button will play and pause
 the track fine.
 
 However shifting focus away from the console to changing the music played
 from the file list is extremely problematic. Moving to the file list and
 pressing space on a new selected track will simply resume the playing of the
 previous track I was playing and not the new selected track.  Pressing enter
 will also not achieve the desired result. 
 
 An option is that sometimes you can change tracks by hitting the context
 menu and then finding play. This is a bit of a palaver though. However, just
 as often the play option is not available and you instead get options like
 create mp3 version, or view in Finder etc. 
 
 So my question is how can you change the track being played in iTunes
 without tearing your hair out. Please do not simply suggest just press enter
 on the track as is sometimes suggested as this simply does not work, as
 others have confirmed. If pressing enter works on some setups then there
 must be some other setting which needs changing so that my iTunes replicates
 this behaviour.
 
 
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Re: Mavericks and MBA

2013-12-19 Thread John Panarese
   I think the specs for Mavericks are exactly the same that were for Mountain 
Lion.  Does he have any external drives connected to his MBA?


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On Dec 19, 2013, at 6:41 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote:

 I suppose a specification issue is possible. If he had an early generation of 
 the AIr, it might be off the official support list for 10.9. I can't recall 
 it off the top of my head, but Googling should turn it up prety easily.
 I'd definitely call Apple support again, possibly the accessibility division, 
 and explain the issues. THey're good people and will have some kind fo 
 solution I'm sure.
 Best,
 Zack.
 On 12/19/2013 03:32 AM, David Griffith wrote:
 Thanks
 
 Unfortunately multiple reboots have not cleared the issue for him.
 
 The steps I have so far recommended and which have not worked are.
 1. I have got him to turn voiceover  on and off.
 2. I have got him to reboot.
 3. I have told him how to get into list view using command 2.
 4.  I have got him to navigate to several windows using command shift O for
 documents and command shift H for home. Finder busy occurs on all windows
 opened so far.
 
 I have  not suggested forced quit as Finder is still responding but
 stuttering. So opening a  window will get Finder busy followed by finder
 ready.  Interacting will provoke a finder busy then finder ready message.
 Even moving the cursor down one file will provoke finder busy finder ready
 before the filename can be read.
 
 I am increasingly thinking it is a specification issue if others are not
 encountering this level of problems.
 
 David Griffith
 
 .
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Zachary Kline
 Sent: 19 December 2013 11:17
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Mavericks and MBA
 
 I believe he should be able to close the current finder window, which is
 causing issues. After doing this, he can try rebooting the computer or force
 finder to relaunch itself.
 To close the Finder window, try command-w. TO force Finder to relaunch, open
 the Force Quit dialog with option-control-escape, and select Finder from the
 applications in the list.
 I would hesitate to write off Mavericks completely. Apple tech support is
 right in that he needs to upgrade, and these Finder hiccups are temporary
 and solvable.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 19, 2013, at 2:59 AM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com
 wrote:
 A friend has rung me after being advised by Apple Support to upgrade his
 Snow Leopard to Mavericks so he can properly synch his new iPhone 5S.
 
 His MBA is however now unusable.
 
 I can hear his Voiceover over the phone and even in List view Voiceover is
 constantly saying Finder busy.  He is also   unable to bring up the Dock
 with VO D.  I got him to put keyboard help on and this command should
 still
 work in theory.
 
 If nothing else it persuades me to continue to avoid Mavericks but is
 there
 anything else people can suggest he does?
 I suggest he rings Apple support to see how he can get ML installed but
 any
 other suggestions welcome.
 
 David Griffith
 
 Regards
 
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Re: new key stroke for adding to the doc in mavericks.?

2013-11-24 Thread John Panarese
  It is shift-control-command-t now to add an item to the Dock in Mavericks.


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On Nov 24, 2013, at 12:53 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bleh! Ok! I taught that to add an item to the doc it’s cmd shift t. This 
 holds through in ML and below, but apparently they changed the key stroke  in 
 mavericks as  that key stroke now hides the tab bar what ever that is.  I’ve 
 been menu  hunting  for lack of a better term but cannot find the new key 
 stroke. Anyone point me in the right direction so I can practice before I 
 teach?
 
 Take care. 
 
 
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Re: new key stroke for adding to the doc in mavericks.?

2013-11-24 Thread John Panarese
  It's probably in the Mavericks keyboard short cut list.  I put a file in the 
documentation part of my sight with the updated keystrokes for Mavericks.


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On Nov 24, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is there a place where I can find the key strokes so I can both learn and 
 teach this in my supplemental mavericks series? and over skype if necessary?
 
 Take care.  and be blessed and have a happy sunday. 
 On Nov 24, 2013, at 10:11 AM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 It is shift-control-command-t now to add an item to the Dock in Mavericks.
 
 
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 On Nov 24, 2013, at 12:53 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Bleh! Ok! I taught that to add an item to the doc it’s cmd shift t. This 
 holds through in ML and below, but apparently they changed the key stroke  
 in mavericks as  that key stroke now hides the tab bar what ever that is.  
 I’ve been menu  hunting  for lack of a better term but cannot find the new 
 key stroke. Anyone point me in the right direction so I can practice before 
 I teach?
 
 Take care. 
 
 
 Sarah Alawami
 
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Re: new key stroke for adding to the doc in mavericks.?

2013-11-24 Thread John Panarese
   I don't believe the OS X keystrokes are in the VO getting Started Guide and 
I am not sure if they are in Finder help.  I found them in an Apple Knowledge 
Base Article I cleaned up and made into a RTF file placed on my site.
  

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On Nov 24, 2013, at 4:33 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok. sorry to sound like an ignoramus,  but where is the list, in the help  
 menu some ware in the finder thingy? I’ll probably update my own guide over 
 the holidays if needed.
 
 Thanks and be blessed. 
 On Nov 24, 2013, at 1:10 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 It's probably in the Mavericks keyboard short cut list.  I put a file in the 
 documentation part of my sight with the updated keystrokes for Mavericks.
 
 
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 On Nov 24, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Is there a place where I can find the key strokes so I can both learn and 
 teach this in my supplemental mavericks series? and over skype if necessary?
 
 Take care.  and be blessed and have a happy sunday. 
 On Nov 24, 2013, at 10:11 AM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net 
 wrote:
 
 It is shift-control-command-t now to add an item to the Dock in Mavericks.
 
 
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 On Nov 24, 2013, at 12:53 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Bleh! Ok! I taught that to add an item to the doc it’s cmd shift t. This 
 holds through in ML and below, but apparently they changed the key stroke 
  in mavericks as  that key stroke now hides the tab bar what ever that 
 is.  I’ve been menu  hunting  for lack of a better term but cannot find 
 the new key stroke. Anyone point me in the right direction so I can 
 practice before I teach?
 
 Take care. 
 
 
 Sarah Alawami
 
 MSN and AIM: marri...@gmail.com
 skype: marrie1 (please let me know where you know me from in the message 
 box).
 
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Using VoiceOver with Blackboard

2013-10-17 Thread John Panarese
Hi folks,
   If anyone is successfully using Blackboard with VoiceOver, could you please 
contact me off list?  I am particularly interested in anyone who has created 
content using Blackboard.  Please email,
j...@macfortheblind.com

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Re: VO Help, Please

2013-10-05 Thread John Panarese
   Press control-option-command-left or right arrow until you hear, speaking 
rate.  Then us control-option-command-up arrow to increase it.  This is 
probably the easiest way.


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On Oct 5, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Matthew Chao mattc...@verizon.net wrote:

 Hi, Folks.  While working on my MacBook Pro, I inadvertently slowed the 
 speech way down.  I got into the VO Utility and went to speech rate, but when 
 I hit the spacebar, I proceeded in slowing the rate down.  How do I speed it 
 back up?  thanks.
 
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Re: Apple's response to my enquiry about flash accessibility

2013-09-29 Thread John Panarese
  I don’t know what you consider accessibility with Flash, but it is actually 
Adobe’s problem.  They were gong to try to make Flash much more accessible at 
one point, but I think they abandoned that option.  At this point, as the move 
to HTML5 is continuing, I doubt you are going to see anything happen with Flash 
accessibility. 

   As far as I know, no screen reader handles flash well at all.  Sometimes, if 
the developer is using the later versions of Flash with Text tags, you might 
find some success, but with JFW, Window-Eyes, System Access and VoiceOver, I 
have found Flash to be nothing less than a waste of time.  Apple had good 
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On Sep 27, 2013, at 3:07 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:

 Hi all -
 
 In my frustration at not being able to listen to a sports stream, I contacted 
 Apple accessibilty, below is there reply. It doesn't quite add up, as they 
 say Adobe hasn't made flash accessible to screen readers, and yet JAWS for 
 one does pretty much ok these days with it. Non the less, perhaps if lots of 
 us folowed their sugestion of contacting Adobe, this time it might make a 
 difference? -
 
 Andy
 Hello, 
 
 Thank you for your email. Unfortunately there is an issue with the Flash 
 component that makes it inaccessible to screen readers. Apple has reported 
 this issue to Adobe over the years and in March of 2011 they announced plans 
 to fix it, you can see their blog post in the link below:
 
 http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2010/03/flash_player_and_flex_support.html
 
 Unfortunately, Adobe has not made the appropriate changes to Flash that make 
 it screen reader compatible. We would encourage the you to contact Adobe and 
 request that they implement the changes that will make Flash content 
 accessible. 
 
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Re: Apple's response to my enquiry about flash accessibility

2013-09-29 Thread John Panarese
   Please disregard the below message.  I started to write it, but people had 
responded before I finished it and I thought it was scrapped.  However, in 
restarting mail, the system seemed to send two messages that I thought were 
deleted, but apparently were not and were somehow in my outbox.


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On Sep 27, 2013, at 3:27 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:

  I don’t know what you consider accessibility with Flash, but it is actually 
 Adobe’s problem.  They were gong to try to make Flash much more accessible at 
 one point, but I think they abandoned that option.  At this point, as the 
 move to HTML5 is continuing, I doubt you are going to see anything happen 
 with Flash accessibility. 
 
   As far as I know, no screen reader handles flash well at all.  Sometimes, 
 if the developer is using the later versions of Flash with Text tags, you 
 might find some success, but with JFW, Window-Eyes, System Access and 
 VoiceOver, I have found Flash to be nothing less than a waste of time.  Apple 
 had good reason to not support it on iDevices.
 
 
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 On Sep 27, 2013, at 3:07 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Hi all -
 
 In my frustration at not being able to listen to a sports stream, I 
 contacted Apple accessibilty, below is there reply. It doesn't quite add up, 
 as they say Adobe hasn't made flash accessible to screen readers, and yet 
 JAWS for one does pretty much ok these days with it. Non the less, perhaps 
 if lots of us folowed their sugestion of contacting Adobe, this time it 
 might make a difference? -
 
 Andy
 Hello, 
 
 Thank you for your email. Unfortunately there is an issue with the Flash 
 component that makes it inaccessible to screen readers. Apple has reported 
 this issue to Adobe over the years and in March of 2011 they announced plans 
 to fix it, you can see their blog post in the link below:
 
 http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2010/03/flash_player_and_flex_support.html
 
 Unfortunately, Adobe has not made the appropriate changes to Flash that make 
 it screen reader compatible. We would encourage the you to contact Adobe and 
 request that they implement the changes that will make Flash content 
 accessible. 
 
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Re: State of Apple Accessibility (was: Re: Logic Pro X accessibility: the view from Cupertino)

2013-07-23 Thread John Panarese
   Hopefully, this did not make the list the first time, as I might have sent 
it has a draft this morning before it was complete.

Hi Chris,
 Arrogance?  Where do you get that from?  Maybe, it came across that way in the 
vehicle as text, but anyone who knows me knows I am the farthest thing  from 
arrogant.  So, if it seemed that way to you or Mary, that was not my intent and 
I apologize.

 I made some general suggestions that have served me over the years from having 
been on so many lists.  The thing about lists is though some people subscribe 
to multiple  lists, many are on only one.  Thus, information they might offer 
is only seen on that list.  For example, I know the area of web design and 
VoiceOver compatibility was discussed on another list and someone made a 
suggestion for an app and information on how to use it with VoiceOver.  Heck if 
I can recall who it was, what list and the application.

You also might  want to you reread the tone and manner in which you have 
posted as well, Chris.  Some of your own comments, whether intended or not, 
came off as rather arrogant and definitive.  We often forget that our own 
personal experiences do not necessarily reflect those of the majority, and what 
we perceive as problems or shortcomings for an app or an operating system may 
not be by others.  You and Donald, for instance, seem to have a more 
specialized situation than most folks and, thus, what you need and require is 
different than what others do.

  My suggestions to search other archives was not out of arrogance, but, 
instead, experience.  As I said, a lot of the complaints I have read in this 
thread have been addressed in a number of work arounds and helpful suggestions. 
 No, not all, and it doesn’t solve the overall issue head on, but as I said, 
just like with Windows, if there is a will, there is a way.  I never inferred 
you or anyone else hadn't tried to do so.  I was pointing out that this list is 
something that we all should go beyond if we can't get the answers or 
information from our membership, as there could be other places where it can be 
found.  I'd say the same thing on other lists, including the one I run.

   .  As for my own Windows experience, to address Chris's assumptions, I use 
Windows every day as well.  I have to.  I do training on that too for a 
specific contract, and, well, to be honest, I like to keep on top of that just 
for the times someone tries to imply or outright accuse me of not knowing 
anything about Windows to speak with any knowledge.  I have a Windows 7 laptop 
and I still have my Win 7 desktop computers.  They are kept up to date with the 
latest screen reader updates and Windows updates.  I do, thus, know Exactly 
what I am talking about on that front.  It also makes me very glad that I can 
go back to my Macs when I am done working in that operating system.  It's a 
nice place to visit, but not a place I want to nor need to live any more.

 As for my training, Chris, you can ask my clients what we cover and the extent 
of what I do.  You’d be surprised just how diverse and far I have had to go to 
help people and prepare myself for training situations.  As a trainer, I’ve 
probably learned more about the Mac and Windows in the last 3 years than many 
users will need to know in their lives.  This is not spoken out of arrogance 
either, but because of the reality that I Have to do so.  I do not speak only 
from personal observations about the Mac, but from the comments and 
testimonials from clients.  Reread my previous messages on that subject.  Just 
as the Mac may not be the system to solve someone's work needs, I just had a 
situation in which Windows could not flit the tab either.  It's a unique 
situation in that specific types of applications are being used, so the client 
is going to have to use both operating systems to accomplish things.

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On Jul 22, 2013, at 11:48 PM, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:

 Mary,
 
 I totally agree with everything you have said.
 
 John, it appears you think I am being harsh an expressing an unfounded 
 sweeping statement about Mac accessibility.  My opinion is based on fact and 
 experience.  You have also assumed that I have not looked for solution either 
 via Google or user group such as these which I think is rather arrogant.  You 
 have also admitted yourself that you do not know everything, but yet you were 
 quick to slap me down for daring to ask more of the Mac years after they were 
 so kind to give us a screen reader.  I wonder if Photoshop users should 
 downgrade to iPhoto, as it covers the basic right?
 
 John, how long is it since you have used Windows on a regular 

Re: State of Apple Accessibility (was: Re: Logic Pro X accessibility: the view from Cupertino)

2013-07-22 Thread John Panarese
I still don't know what you mean that people can't use the Mac in a 
professional environment.  I think this is strictly your opinion and not 
anything based on fact.  There are at least a half dozen high end word 
processing applications, including iText, Pages Multi Markdown Composer.  
Additionally, there are two spreadsheet alternatives that can be used 
accessibly.  As I said, I have trained people who use their Macs for business.  
To say VoiceOver is not on par with JAWS or a windows screen reader is a very 
narrow viewpoint.  Yes, Tiger, Leopard and Snow Leopard, I could not have 
argued that pint, but not any more.  I guess my experience as a trainer gives 
me a much wider perspective, but as was initially said, everyone is entitled to 
their opinions.  I'm just glad there are a lot of people who don't see things 
in such a negative way.
  

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On Jul 22, 2013, at 6:27 AM, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:

 John,
 
 Tiger was almost 9 years ago, that is a long time ago, so  for the Mac in 
 2013 still not being able to provide a fully accessible business level or 
 decent level education class word processing and spreadsheet solution is not 
 acceptable in my book.  Also, I do not think Voiceover is on par with JAWS or 
 WindowEyes.  Granted these products do cost extra and Voiceover is built 
 right in, but Apple need to get their core products to fully support it.
 
 Don't get me wrong, I am a complete mac fan boy, but for anyone to think the 
 Mac with a screen reader can compete in the world of productivity is deluded 
 and taking the mac fan boy cool are to the extreme.
 Voiceover needs to be more polished and so does Zoom.  The Mac is a more 
 mature product than iOS, but at the core ios IS still Mac OS X but compiled 
 to run on a ARM processor instead.
 
 I think it has gone beyond us all kissing Apple's ass and being ever so 
 grateful for them building in a screen reader, they now need to make the 
 product more useful if it is going to be taken more serious.  It really is a 
 shame that a third party has not developed their own screen reader for the 
 Mac which is able to take things to the next level for the professional.
 
 I guess you and I live in different worlds John and have different needs.
 
 I respect your opinion however and I am happy the Mac meets your needs.
 
 Chris 
 
 On 21 Jul 2013, at 17:01, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
  You are comparing two different animals, Chris.  I also think you are being 
 a bit dismissive.  Remember that iOS accessibility came very early in the 
 game while accessibility with Mac OS X has been going on at the same time 
 Apple has literally been rewriting all of their core applications.  Of 
 course iOS is going to seem like it's taken leaps and bounds forward with 
 accessibility over the last few years.  There have been several additions to 
 VoiceOver on the Mac, but they don't measure up the same comparing them to 
 basic iOS accessibility advances.  At the same time, though, progress with 
 Mac OS has continued and for those of use who remember Tiger, I think it's 
 safe to say that Apple has definitely made the Mac just as viable as a 
 Windows solution.  I have no doubts that Mavericks will only improve 
 accessibility and things will only go forward.
 
 
 Take Care
 
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 On Jul 21, 2013, at 9:25 AM, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
 
 John,
 
 My reference to Mac OS X being half baked, was in comparison to iOS.  
 Voiceover has come on leaps and bounds on iOS since 2009.  Has Voiceover 
 come on leaps and bounds on Mac OS X since 2009?  There have been some 
 improvements yes, still numerous bugs and major missing features.  Probably 
 the only major VO features since 2009 has been support for drag and drop 
 and additional voices.
 
 IS Mac better than Windows? out of the box, yes.  narrator has a long way 
 to go still, but has also come on leaps and bounds since Windows 7.  Is 
 Voiceover better or more advanced than JAWS? hell no.
 
 Ok Voiceover is integrated into the OS, but not much use if many 
 applications don't adhere to standards for VO to support, and these 
 applications include many from Apple too.
 
 In the real world, the Mac is fine for reading email, surfing the web, 
 using Skype, and chatting with friends or writing the odd blog.
 
 iWork is a joke with voiceover

Re: State of Apple Accessibility (was: Re: Logic Pro X accessibility: the view from Cupertino)

2013-07-22 Thread John Panarese
It's funny though.  People are still doing tasks with spreadsheets and word 
processing with what is available.  Again, you can be overly critical or you 
can be realistic about things.  Where there is a will, there is a way.  In a 
couple of months, this debate will probably have no merit anyway.  


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On Jul 22, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:

 John,
 
 I am not negative, I just live in the real world.
 
 If you require very basic small spreadsheets, with voiceover quirks compared 
 to complex large  Excel spreadsheets, then fine.  A word processor offering 
 full Microsoft document support which is the industry standard? None of the 
 word processors you mention can't hold a torch to Microsoft Word and can't 
 even produce headings and tables which can be read by voiceover.  Keynotes 
 accessibility is also below par, so Powerpoint is out of the question.  Open 
 Office is also not even a viable option on the Mac.
 
 There are also no accessible WYSWYG HTML editors on the Mac which support VO, 
 you are stud with either stuck with applications for marking down for use  
 with a CMS, or basic RTF editors.  
 
 The Mac does the basics, some of us users have more demanding requirement.  
 Is that a bad thing?
 
 All these tasks can be achieved if you have enough vision not to require 
 Voiceover, is it too much to ask for Voiceover users to expect the same level 
 of productivity as our sighted Mac users?  I do not think I am being negative 
 at all.
 
 Chris 
 
 On 22 Jul 2013, at 18:00, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
   I still don't know what you mean that people can't use the Mac in a 
 professional environment.  I think this is strictly your opinion and not 
 anything based on fact.  There are at least a half dozen high end word 
 processing applications, including iText, Pages Multi Markdown Composer.  
 Additionally, there are two spreadsheet alternatives that can be used 
 accessibly.  As I said, I have trained people who use their Macs for 
 business.  To say VoiceOver is not on par with JAWS or a windows screen 
 reader is a very narrow viewpoint.  Yes, Tiger, Leopard and Snow Leopard, I 
 could not have argued that pint, but not any more.  I guess my experience as 
 a trainer gives me a much wider perspective, but as was initially said, 
 everyone is entitled to their opinions.  I'm just glad there are a lot of 
 people who don't see things in such a negative way.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
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 On Jul 22, 2013, at 6:27 AM, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
 
 John,
 
 Tiger was almost 9 years ago, that is a long time ago, so  for the Mac in 
 2013 still not being able to provide a fully accessible business level or 
 decent level education class word processing and spreadsheet solution is 
 not acceptable in my book.  Also, I do not think Voiceover is on par with 
 JAWS or WindowEyes.  Granted these products do cost extra and Voiceover is 
 built right in, but Apple need to get their core products to fully support 
 it.
 
 Don't get me wrong, I am a complete mac fan boy, but for anyone to think 
 the Mac with a screen reader can compete in the world of productivity is 
 deluded and taking the mac fan boy cool are to the extreme.
 Voiceover needs to be more polished and so does Zoom.  The Mac is a more 
 mature product than iOS, but at the core ios IS still Mac OS X but compiled 
 to run on a ARM processor instead.
 
 I think it has gone beyond us all kissing Apple's ass and being ever so 
 grateful for them building in a screen reader, they now need to make the 
 product more useful if it is going to be taken more serious.  It really is 
 a shame that a third party has not developed their own screen reader for 
 the Mac which is able to take things to the next level for the professional.
 
 I guess you and I live in different worlds John and have different needs.
 
 I respect your opinion however and I am happy the Mac meets your needs.
 
 Chris 
 
 On 21 Jul 2013, at 17:01, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 You are comparing two different animals, Chris.  I also think you are 
 being a bit dismissive.  Remember that iOS accessibility came very early 
 in the game while accessibility with Mac OS X has been going on at the 
 same time Apple has literally been rewriting all of their core 
 applications.  Of course iOS

Re: State of Apple Accessibility (was: Re: Logic Pro X accessibility: the view from Cupertino)

2013-07-22 Thread John Panarese
   I think that is one.  To be honest, I don't have the time right now to start 
searching archives and list serves, but I know there were solutions offered to 
web design Chris is not taking into account.  The only really strong point 
that has been made is in regard to text tables.  Otherwise, as I said, there 
are solutions out there.  Search the archives here or if you are on other 
lists.  Those are the kinds of questions that come up all of the time, and 
there is always someone who offers an app that no one knows about or does not 
get attention that the other common ones have.  I know someone, for example, 
found an app pretty comparable to MS Word access with VoiceOver or, at least, 
found something pretty close to what some high end users needed.  The problem 
with being subscribed to eight lists dealing with the Mac or iDevices is you 
can hardly recall who said what on which list.


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On Jul 22, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Orin orin8...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 What about RapidWeaver? I've heard of several people using it, but I haven't 
 figured it out. There's also another popular one that I forgot the name of. 
 These are Wisiwig editors.
 
 Orin
 orin8...@gmail.com
 Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks
 Skype: orin1112
 
 
 
 On Jul 22, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
 
 John,
 
 I am not negative, I just live in the real world.
 
 If you require very basic small spreadsheets, with voiceover quirks compared 
 to complex large  Excel spreadsheets, then fine.  A word processor offering 
 full Microsoft document support which is the industry standard? None of the 
 word processors you mention can't hold a torch to Microsoft Word and can't 
 even produce headings and tables which can be read by voiceover.  Keynotes 
 accessibility is also below par, so Powerpoint is out of the question.  Open 
 Office is also not even a viable option on the Mac.
 
 There are also no accessible WYSWYG HTML editors on the Mac which support 
 VO, you are stud with either stuck with applications for marking down for 
 use  with a CMS, or basic RTF editors.  
 
 The Mac does the basics, some of us users have more demanding requirement.  
 Is that a bad thing?
 
 All these tasks can be achieved if you have enough vision not to require 
 Voiceover, is it too much to ask for Voiceover users to expect the same 
 level of productivity as our sighted Mac users?  I do not think I am being 
 negative at all.
 
 Chris 
 
 On 22 Jul 2013, at 18:00, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
  I still don't know what you mean that people can't use the Mac in a 
 professional environment.  I think this is strictly your opinion and not 
 anything based on fact.  There are at least a half dozen high end word 
 processing applications, including iText, Pages Multi Markdown Composer.  
 Additionally, there are two spreadsheet alternatives that can be used 
 accessibly.  As I said, I have trained people who use their Macs for 
 business.  To say VoiceOver is not on par with JAWS or a windows screen 
 reader is a very narrow viewpoint.  Yes, Tiger, Leopard and Snow Leopard, I 
 could not have argued that pint, but not any more.  I guess my experience 
 as a trainer gives me a much wider perspective, but as was initially said, 
 everyone is entitled to their opinions.  I'm just glad there are a lot of 
 people who don't see things in such a negative way.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION
 
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
 
 On Jul 22, 2013, at 6:27 AM, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
 
 John,
 
 Tiger was almost 9 years ago, that is a long time ago, so  for the Mac in 
 2013 still not being able to provide a fully accessible business level or 
 decent level education class word processing and spreadsheet solution is 
 not acceptable in my book.  Also, I do not think Voiceover is on par with 
 JAWS or WindowEyes.  Granted these products do cost extra and Voiceover is 
 built right in, but Apple need to get their core products to fully support 
 it.
 
 Don't get me wrong, I am a complete mac fan boy, but for anyone to think 
 the Mac with a screen reader can compete in the world of productivity is 
 deluded and taking the mac fan boy cool are to the extreme.
 Voiceover needs to be more polished and so does Zoom.  The Mac is a more 
 mature product than iOS, but at the core ios IS still Mac OS X but 
 compiled to run on a ARM processor

Re: State of Apple Accessibility (was: Re: Logic Pro X accessibility: the view from Cupertino)

2013-07-22 Thread John Panarese
Hi Mary,
Here is the problem.  Firstly, having been on email lists for years, these 
types of discussions come up, people make suggestions and find solutions, and 
the subject is lost.  Being that I am on so many lists, I have no idea who said 
what and where.

My point is, a lot of what people report or even complain about is either 
subjective or they may not be aware of solutions that others have found.

 For example, with PDFs.  I don’t have the problems you seem to have and I know 
of two clients who extensively have to access PDF documents for their work.  
They use Skim to do so.  I am fine with Preview.  No, Preview will not deal 
with an image PDF.  You need to OCR that first as there is no text VoiceOver 
can read.

 As for word processors and such, again, I have seen at least a half dozen, if 
not more suggestions offered by people on lists and step by step instructions 
how to deal with a variety of issues people find themselves facing.  
Unfortunately, when you go through 500 emails a day on average, it doesn’t 
always stick with me.  Sometimes, I manage to jot down notes or grab a message 
for future reference, but of late, that has become more and more difficult for 
me, as I just don’t have time.  I know the problem of MS word formatting and 
compatibility ,  accessing tables and a variety of other matters have been 
addressed here and in other places.

 My overall point is instead of tossing out general statements about ones 
perceived notions of what can or can’t be done, do a little foot work and 
research on this list’s archives and the other lists out there.  I am far from 
the be all and end all to knowing every accessible application or work around 
for a situation, and I spend a lot of time having to find information for 
others.  It’s out there.  You just have to be willing to look.  Considering 
that the vast majority of us have come from Windows, we should be used to 
having to sometimes think outside the box for solutions.  Accessibility is far 
from perfect on the Mac and I also said initially that I can list my gripes 
just like anyone else, but I don’t find it necessary to  present those gripes 
in broad strokes nor make dramatic statements about Apple’s accessibility 
efforts when I have benefited from those efforts over the last 9 years and no 
how far VoiceOver has come compared to my old iBook running Tiger or my 
original Mac Book running Snow Leopard.  

 As I initially said, for every problem one can toss out in regard to the Mac 
and VoiceOver, someone else can probably toss out three times as many with 
JAWS, Windows Eys, NVDA or any Windows screen reader.  No solution is perfect, 
but I have found, in my own personal experience, and in training clients on the 
Mac for 3 years, that switchers find their Mac experience so much better than 
Windows and I have yet to encounter a client who has told me they can’t do 
something on the Mac that they can do on Windows with the exception of a few 
minor specialty apps and games.  Then again, I have had more clients tell me 
that they have been able to find more solutions on the Mac for things they 
couldn’t do in Windows.

However, this discussion, I think, is running its course, and I personally have 
spent too much time addressing it at this point. My apologies to Gordon and 
Lynne for the diversion.



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On Jul 22, 2013, at 6:13 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:

 John,
 Seems to me you didn't really address some of Chris's specific issues with 
 Mac as compared to his use of Jaws or NVDA with Windows. pdf on the Mac is a 
 joke compared with Windows; sorry, but cutting and pasting in to text edit 
 isn't my idea of reasonable access. And the fact that I can't read tables in 
 pdf documents is a serious drawback. I know there are work arounds involving 
 the use of Pages with tables and numbers, but again, cutting and pasting back 
 and forth just to do something that ought to be done within a single app is 
 not the same level of usability as you get with a good Windows screen reader. 
 If Apple fixes this issue with the next release of iWork, which ought to be 
 coming soon, then good for them. In the mean time, I don't see how you can 
 say Mac is just as good as Windows for folks who need to do a lot of table 
 reading and editing, or document changes tracking, which is working in MS 
 Word for Windows with screen reader but not with VO and Pages. 
 You made a statement that a lot of folks who criticize Apple accessibility as 
 compared with Windows don't have sufficient knowledge of Mac usage to make 
 such a statement. I would argue that the opposite is also true. I've seen 
 statements from people who 

Re: State of Apple Accessibility (was: Re: Logic Pro X accessibility: the view from Cupertino)

2013-07-21 Thread John Panarese
   You are comparing two different animals, Chris.  I also think you are being 
a bit dismissive.  Remember that iOS accessibility came very early in the game 
while accessibility with Mac OS X has been going on at the same time Apple has 
literally been rewriting all of their core applications.  Of course iOS is 
going to seem like it's taken leaps and bounds forward with accessibility over 
the last few years.  There have been several additions to VoiceOver on the Mac, 
but they don't measure up the same comparing them to basic iOS accessibility 
advances.  At the same time, though, progress with Mac OS has continued and for 
those of use who remember Tiger, I think it's safe to say that Apple has 
definitely made the Mac just as viable as a Windows solution.  I have no doubts 
that Mavericks will only improve accessibility and things will only go forward.


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On Jul 21, 2013, at 9:25 AM, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:

 John,
 
 My reference to Mac OS X being half baked, was in comparison to iOS.  
 Voiceover has come on leaps and bounds on iOS since 2009.  Has Voiceover come 
 on leaps and bounds on Mac OS X since 2009?  There have been some 
 improvements yes, still numerous bugs and major missing features.  Probably 
 the only major VO features since 2009 has been support for drag and drop and 
 additional voices.
 
 IS Mac better than Windows? out of the box, yes.  narrator has a long way to 
 go still, but has also come on leaps and bounds since Windows 7.  Is 
 Voiceover better or more advanced than JAWS? hell no.
 
 Ok Voiceover is integrated into the OS, but not much use if many applications 
 don't adhere to standards for VO to support, and these applications include 
 many from Apple too.
 
 In the real world, the Mac is fine for reading email, surfing the web, using 
 Skype, and chatting with friends or writing the odd blog.
 
 iWork is a joke with voiceover and yes I know some users have a relevant 
 level of success if you are prepared to jump through hoops.  You can't 
 compare using iWork with voiceover and using JAWS or NVDA on Windows with 
 Microsoft Office.  Nothing even comes close to it on the Mac in terms of 
 accessibility.  VO can't even read what is exactly on the screen half the 
 time, it makes too many assumptions.
 
 To be productive I want to be able to use Dreamweaver, a decent word 
 processor including tables, and use complex spreadsheets, access share point, 
 use web development tools, edit MIDI data, read PDF documents that also 
 include their elements such as headings, tables and enter data within form 
 fields of a PDF.  The Mac with voiceover struggles with all of these tasks.  
 So in my opinions it is not very productive in the world of business.  
 Voiceover can't even read tables or headings in documents.
 
 However, I still use my Mac on a daily basis as I do like the email client, 
 and using the rotor in Safari, despite some web pages causing VO to crash and 
 not being able to handle some pages correctly.
 
 I guess we'll see how committed Apple are to accessibility on the Mac when 
 the next release of iWork comes out eh?  Very disappointed accessibility had 
 not been improved within Logic X, and I really hope VO support is enhanced in 
 both Pages and Numbers.  I would like to see the various bugs I have 
 submitted be plugged also.  Apple are quick to fix bugs which do not relate 
 to accessibility, and it seems the only time VO gets an update or has a bug 
 fixed is with each major OS update, which is very frustrating.
 
 Apple have done very little to improve accessibility for low vision users 
 too.  This is why AI Squared have had to release ZoomText for Mac, as Apple's 
 built in offerings are so poor. An accessible Office suite from Microsoft and 
 accessible products from Adobe such as Reader and Flash would be welcome 
 (Flash not as important these days though). In the meantime, we can hardly 
 point the finger at Microsoft and Adobe if Apple can't even make all their 
 software accessible.
 
 Those are the facts, and I have been a Mac user since 2000, but I admit only 
 as a blind user since 2010.
 
 I have not tested Maverick, so I might b very surprised and learn that it is 
 truly wonderful.  Here's hoping eh?
 
 Chris 
 
 On 20 Jul 2013, at 19:28, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 OK, maybe I am missing something here, but I am reading some of the most 
 ridiculous and assumption ridden posts in this thread.  How in the world can 
 you say the Mac is half-baked?  The Mac is just as accessible as Windows at 
 this point, and for whatever weaknesses you can point out in OS X, I can 
 equally find in Windows.  I

Re: State of Apple Accessibility (was: Re: Logic Pro X accessibility: the view from Cupertino)

2013-07-20 Thread John Panarese
  OK, maybe I am missing something here, but I am reading some of the most 
ridiculous and assumption ridden posts in this thread.  How in the world can 
you say the Mac is half-baked?  The Mac is just as accessible as Windows at 
this point, and for whatever weaknesses you can point out in OS X, I can 
equally find in Windows.  I know blind people productively using the Mac every 
day for their work, and I can give you several testimonials from former Windows 
users who will flat out tell you that Mac accessibility is superior to that in 
Windows hands down.  I just had this conversation with a client who is a former 
JAWS user who was using Windows since 1994 and still uses Windows because he 
paid for a SMA.

  In any event, to assume Apple is done with accessibility or has done so to 
legally get by is a generally opinionated statement that has no factual or 
concrete evidence beyond personal belief.  How far the Mac has come since 
Tiger, including Lion to Mountain Lion, is proof enough, and if it’s not 
satisfactory enough to you, that is your problem and not a general reflection 
of the state of accessibility among most blind Mac users.  Is it perfect?  Of 
course not.  I can list the flaws as readily as anyone else, especially since I 
train folks to use the Mac every day.  However, as I said, I can list just as 
many in Windows, if not more in some regard.  Also, well, show me an operating 
system the blind can use with perfection.   We can go on and on about our 
accessibility gripes about every operating system, but in many cases, the 
reality does not truly reflect our narrow world views of things.



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On Jul 20, 2013, at 6:31 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie 
wrote:

 Chris,
 
 Just to be clear I think they've done a stellar job on IOS.  Sure there are 
 things I'd like to see, things I'd have done differently; but that applies to 
 my own development work (in retrospect) as well.
 
 The reality is that four and a half years after iWork 09 was released, it is 
 still lacking in what I would consider to be basic accessibility and, more 
 importantly, usability.  People like Anne Robertson (on this list) have come 
 up with workarounds to get past issues that t we really shouldn't have to be 
 working around.  With every new update I hope that some new features will be 
 introduced, but more importantly I want longstanding bugs to have gone away.  
 Neither happens.
 
 Like you, I've stopped recommending the mac for anyone other than those who 
 want a glorified mediaplayer.  It is not a productivity machine at this stage.
 
 Dónal
 On 20 Jul 2013, at 11:25, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
 
 I agree, Mac OS X accessibility sucks.  iOS is far superior and the Mac is 
 half baked and very buggy.  I could never recommend the Mac as a productive 
 tool for the blind.
 
 I don't think we should give up though, we need to keep up the pressure.  We 
 also need to shame Apple by bringing it to the attention of mainstream press 
  Let's try and convince someone to publish an article on how crap Voiceover 
 is on the Mac.  We only ever seem to get a slight update each time a new OS 
 comes out.
 
 We need to keep making a noise and more of it.
 
 Chris 
 On 20 Jul 2013, at 11:08, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie 
 wrote:
 
 Chris,
 
 Dealing with both your mails in one here.  I wholeheartedly agree.  I've 
 been convinced for almost 2 years that Apple sees their job in terms of 
 accessibility for the blind, specifically on OSX but to a lesser extent on 
 IOS, as done.  They can walk into any courtroom and claim, with 
 justification, that they are in compliance with ADA, section 508, EU 
 disability legislation etc.  Afraid in my view OSX accessibility is dying 
 on the vine so we may as well accept that what we have now is as good as 
 it's going to get.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Dónal
 On 20 Jul 2013, at 06:31, Chris Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote:
 
 And, though I cannot go into the specifics due to NDA, I'll say this, and 
 under no circumstances anything more.  I've reported through bug reporter 
 many many bugs as I'm an Apple Dev both for IOS and for OSX.  In both 
 cases a lot of the bugs had to do with things in IOS7 and in Mavericks 
 both which are broken accessibility wise.  Again, I can't legally reveal 
 what these things are, but the response I finally got back directly from 
 engineering, was something to the effect of we know about this bug, 
 however, what you are experiencing is exactly the way it's supposed to 
 behave, so learn how to deal with it. Excuse me, but I paid 100 dollars to 
 become a dev, not a person whom won't be listen to!  

Re: MAIL HAS NO WINDOWS

2013-07-20 Thread John Panarese
   Next time, try command-1 and that will take you back to the inbox in Mail.  


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On Jul 20, 2013, at 3:19 PM, Carol carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi Andy and all,
 
 I think we discussed this a little while back and were both feeling a bit 
 confused when we found ourselves in this situation (which I always think of 
 as being in a maze, - and that isn't my favourite place to be!
 
 Well, I wandered there again today - and knew I would - so just had to find a 
 realistic way out!  Eventually I came up with this (as well as I can remember 
 it now).
 
 Go to Mail Menu then to File Menu.  There, I discovered, was another item 
 ((which had appeared), which was New Viewer Window.  (I think command 
 option N gets you there.  ...
 
 This re-loads the window you were in last!  (I was in fact making my way back 
 to my In-box at the time.)
 
 I then brought up the Item Chooser and found my In-box (safely and quickly) 
 and was back on the road once again.
 
 I hope you can follow this, just about as well as I am following it now after 
 being on the Mac for ages, and ending up back there again ... because I did 
 something stupid whilst writing this email.  Anyway, I really do hope that it 
 helps you! also!  If it does then it's all worthwhile!
 
 Can anyone else explain, please, why we keep wandering into this situation?  
 It's obviously to do with wrong keystrokes ...  Is there an easier way out 
 than I've given here?
 
 Thanks and I'm off the Mac now for today!
 
 Carol P
 
 
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Re: MAIL HAS NO WINDOWS

2013-07-20 Thread John Panarese
   After you open the message, have you tried doing a command-w to close it?  
That should put you right back in your inbox with that same message selected.


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On Jul 20, 2013, at 3:39 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:

 Hi John, and Carol -
 
 I am now using command 1 to get back to my inbox, but the problem I have is 
 that when I press enter to read a message, and then do command 1, I'm not 
 always back where I expect to be, sometimes I'm on a headers list, sometimes 
 on the message group. Over all, I am coping with the mail experience, but I'm 
 not interacting as quickly and consistantly as I would like to, partly 
 because it isn't looking consistantly the same way. I accept some opperator 
 error at this end, but would really like to know how to have mail set up so 
 that I could just see who the message was from, the subject, and the actual 
 message itself, and that when I want to read the message, after doing so, I 
 want to either delete it, or come out of it and see the next one without 
 faffing about with the VO and arrow keys to find my way around again. -
 
 Andy 
 On 20 Jul 2013, at 20:21, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
  Next time, try command-1 and that will take you back to the inbox in Mail.  
 
 
 Take Care
 
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 Mac for the Blind
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 On Jul 20, 2013, at 3:19 PM, Carol carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Andy and all,
 
 I think we discussed this a little while back and were both feeling a bit 
 confused when we found ourselves in this situation (which I always think of 
 as being in a maze, - and that isn't my favourite place to be!
 
 Well, I wandered there again today - and knew I would - so just had to find 
 a realistic way out!  Eventually I came up with this (as well as I can 
 remember it now).
 
 Go to Mail Menu then to File Menu.  There, I discovered, was another item 
 ((which had appeared), which was New Viewer Window.  (I think command 
 option N gets you there.  ...
 
 This re-loads the window you were in last!  (I was in fact making my way 
 back to my In-box at the time.)
 
 I then brought up the Item Chooser and found my In-box (safely and quickly) 
 and was back on the road once again.
 
 I hope you can follow this, just about as well as I am following it now 
 after being on the Mac for ages, and ending up back there again ... because 
 I did something stupid whilst writing this email.  Anyway, I really do hope 
 that it helps you! also!  If it does then it's all worthwhile!
 
 Can anyone else explain, please, why we keep wandering into this situation? 
  It's obviously to do with wrong keystrokes ...  Is there an easier way out 
 than I've given here?
 
 Thanks and I'm off the Mac now for today!
 
 Carol P
 
 
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Re: State of Apple Accessibility (was: Re: Logic Pro X accessibility: the view from Cupertino)

2013-07-20 Thread John Panarese
 much moaning and complaining is 
 going on about the Yankees on a Yankees board, just to use them as an 
 example.  
 On Jul 20, 2013, at 2:28 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 OK, maybe I am missing something here, but I am reading some of the most 
 ridiculous and assumption ridden posts in this thread.  How in the world can 
 you say the Mac is half-baked?  The Mac is just as accessible as Windows at 
 this point, and for whatever weaknesses you can point out in OS X, I can 
 equally find in Windows.  I know blind people productively using the Mac 
 every day for their work, and I can give you several testimonials from 
 former Windows users who will flat out tell you that Mac accessibility is 
 superior to that in Windows hands down.  I just had this conversation with a 
 client who is a former JAWS user who was using Windows since 1994 and still 
 uses Windows because he paid for a SMA.
 
 In any event, to assume Apple is done with accessibility or has done so to 
 legally get by is a generally opinionated statement that has no factual or 
 concrete evidence beyond personal belief.  How far the Mac has come since 
 Tiger, including Lion to Mountain Lion, is proof enough, and if it’s not 
 satisfactory enough to you, that is your problem and not a general 
 reflection of the state of accessibility among most blind Mac users.  Is it 
 perfect?  Of course not.  I can list the flaws as readily as anyone else, 
 especially since I train folks to use the Mac every day.  However, as I 
 said, I can list just as many in Windows, if not more in some regard.  Also, 
 well, show me an operating system the blind can use with perfection.   We 
 can go on and on about our accessibility gripes about every operating 
 system, but in many cases, the reality does not truly reflect our narrow 
 world views of things.
 
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
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 On Jul 20, 2013, at 6:31 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie 
 wrote:
 
 Chris,
 
 Just to be clear I think they've done a stellar job on IOS.  Sure there are 
 things I'd like to see, things I'd have done differently; but that applies 
 to my own development work (in retrospect) as well.
 
 The reality is that four and a half years after iWork 09 was released, it 
 is still lacking in what I would consider to be basic accessibility and, 
 more importantly, usability.  People like Anne Robertson (on this list) 
 have come up with workarounds to get past issues that t we really shouldn't 
 have to be working around.  With every new update I hope that some new 
 features will be introduced, but more importantly I want longstanding bugs 
 to have gone away.  Neither happens.
 
 Like you, I've stopped recommending the mac for anyone other than those who 
 want a glorified mediaplayer.  It is not a productivity machine at this 
 stage.
 
 Dónal
 On 20 Jul 2013, at 11:25, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
 
 I agree, Mac OS X accessibility sucks.  iOS is far superior and the Mac is 
 half baked and very buggy.  I could never recommend the Mac as a 
 productive tool for the blind.
 
 I don't think we should give up though, we need to keep up the pressure.  
 We also need to shame Apple by bringing it to the attention of mainstream 
 press  Let's try and convince someone to publish an article on how crap 
 Voiceover is on the Mac.  We only ever seem to get a slight update each 
 time a new OS comes out.
 
 We need to keep making a noise and more of it.
 
 Chris 
 On 20 Jul 2013, at 11:08, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie 
 wrote:
 
 Chris,
 
 Dealing with both your mails in one here.  I wholeheartedly agree.  I've 
 been convinced for almost 2 years that Apple sees their job in terms of 
 accessibility for the blind, specifically on OSX but to a lesser extent 
 on IOS, as done.  They can walk into any courtroom and claim, with 
 justification, that they are in compliance with ADA, section 508, EU 
 disability legislation etc.  Afraid in my view OSX accessibility is dying 
 on the vine so we may as well accept that what we have now is as good as 
 it's going to get.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Dónal
 On 20 Jul 2013, at 06:31, Chris Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com 
 wrote:
 
 And, though I cannot go into the specifics due to NDA, I'll say this, 
 and under no circumstances anything more.  I've reported through bug 
 reporter many many bugs as I'm an Apple Dev both for IOS and for OSX.  
 In both cases a lot of the bugs had to do with things in IOS7 and in 
 Mavericks both which are broken accessibility wise.  Again, I can't 
 legally reveal what these things are, but the response I finally got 
 back directly from engineering, was something

Re: State of Apple Accessibility (was: Re: Logic Pro X accessibility: the view from Cupertino)

2013-07-20 Thread John Panarese
Hi Brian,
   One of these days, I'd like to sit down with you and hear this happen.  It's 
easier to actually hear things happening to get an idea of what is going on.


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On Jul 20, 2013, at 4:48 PM, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey John,
 
 Yes, I agree who ever made the half baked comment seems to be going a little 
 far.
 
 As for me and numbers, I am not sure what my issue is as the final straw with 
 using it was the constant VO crashing when using it. I am not sure if 
 crashing is the appropriate term, what would happen is I would be working 
 with a numbers document and VO would just completely stop working. I couldn't 
 enter any text in to a cell. VO would stop reading and I would try and type 
 anyway, thinking that maybe it was just a VO issue and text was being entered 
 into a cell, but after quitting numbers and restarting I would go back to the 
 cell and none of the text I had just entered was there. This started to occur 
 more and more frequently, and when you are working with a cell that is at the 
 midway point of a document it would take forever to get back there only to 
 enter text in the cell move to the next cell and have the same thing occur 
 all over again. I tried the various work arounds suggested to me, but had no 
 luck with the find commands, and did find it a little ridiculous that I would 
 have to go through about seven steps to do a certain find/search criteria 
 including a VO F3 to toggle stuff off. I decided I was losing so much time 
 spending on these issues that I just switched over to a database program. Now 
 does that mean I don't know how to use a mac? No. Was it unbelievably 
 frustrating and did I view it as way to time consuming? Yes. Did I think that 
 Apple should come up with a better way and should have done so by now, yes. 
 Does it mean if numbers is improved that I will go back to it? Yes. I don't 
 see anything wrong with questioning apple at all. I'm not one of these people 
 that thinks I need to bow down to Apple for everything they do, not 
 everything they do is everyone going to agree with. They are a company in 
 business to make money. Is their record with accessibility fantastic? Yes, is 
 it perfect, no. Would I consider going back to windows? Not unless they came 
 a long long way with improvements in accessibility.
 On Jul 20, 2013, at 4:28 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
   There is nothing wrong with opinions and I think I had tried to make that 
 clear in my post.  However, there is a difference between personal opinion 
 and making blanket statements that you feel reflect what everyone should 
 think.  If you think Mac accessibility is half baked, well, as I said, 
 that is your opinion and you have a right to that.  Fortunately, the vast 
 number of blind Mac users surely don't see it that way, and I have yet to 
 encounter a client who has come to that conclusion in 3 years of doing Mac 
 training.
 
   As I told someone off list, and at the risk of being accused of flaming 
 anyone, from several years on lists and particularly being subscribed to 
 about five blind Mac or iOS user lists, when someone makes a statement 
 generalized to detract from the use of the Mac as a tool equal in value to 
 Windows, there are one of three reasons or positions at work:
 
 1. The user really has not learned the Mac well enough to be qualified to 
 make any blanket statements.  I can't tell you how many people I have met 
 who have had limited use or understanding of the Mac, but find it necessary 
 to tell people that the Mac isn't on the same accessibility grounds as 
 Windows.   It's like taking a car for a fifteen minute test drive and then 
 bashing the car on every category as if you have owned it for five years.  
 Does anyone remember the first AFB review on VoiceOver in 2005?
 
 2. The user has used the Mac, but still is at the point in which they don't 
 know enough about the Mac to truly speak with any expertise.  In other 
 words, as the expression goes, they know enough to be dangerous.  I often 
 see this in the world of Windows with JAWS or Window-Eyes users who want to 
 criticize the other camp.  You may know how to do a lot of things, but your 
 experience and knowledge is still lacking and you don't know enough about 
 what else can be done because you haven't taken the time to thoroughly find 
 out.
 
 3. There is another political or personal a gender at work.  In other words, 
 the Mac could demonstrate utter perfection when it comes to accessibility, 
 and the user will still find fault with it or seek to disparage it because 
 they have a vested interest in such criticisms

Re: Remotely Controlling another Mac Machine

2013-06-19 Thread John Panarese
 I have tried this without any success.  Are you using this with VoiceOver 
active?  If so, I’d appreciate knowing how you accomplished this.  I tested it 
for quite some time, but there is no Voice output form the system you are 
trying to control, or, at least, I wasn’t able to get any.


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On Jun 19, 2013, at 8:44 AM, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes you can use team viewer for mac.
 
 On 6/18/13, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:
 Hi!
 
 Anyone know of any accessible way of doing this? Last I heard it wasn't
 possible to control another Mac remotely.
 
 
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Re: How To Delete Bookmarks In Safari On the iMac

2013-06-06 Thread John Panarese
 There is a splitter next to the table with your folders.  Interact with 
the splitter and try collapsing it.  YOu might have some problems and get busy 
signals with Safari, but eventually, you should then see the second table of 
the actual bookmarks.


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On Jun 6, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Cathy flowersandhe...@gmail.com wrote:

 hello,
 I have a mac mini and the latest updates. 
 I have  tried these suggestions and can find the table with the collection 
 called bookmarks menu and the new folders I have created for bookmarks.  but 
 cannot find the second table in which the bookmarks themselves are stored. . 
 I have tried interacting with the table, selecting bookmarks menu or another 
 of my folders, then stop interacting, then with that table, tab around. but 
 when I tab or use vo and arrow keys all I find is buttons.
 
   so where is that second table? invisible to me, that is all I know
 sigh
 Cathy
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Re: Group Audio Skype Question

2013-06-06 Thread John Panarese
   You have to add each person one at a time.  You have to VO-space on each 
contact and they are added.  However, I am not certain if this is just for 
audio and not for video.  


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 I don't know if that is possible. When I tried establishing a group
 video call with Skype it gave me the alertabout having to purchase
 Skype premium.
 
 On 6/6/13, Tom Jones tomljo...@earthlink.net wrote:
 How does one (if it can be done) establish a group audio call without
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Re: accessing created bookmarks in safari on mac

2013-06-06 Thread John Panarese
When you go to the bookmarks menu from the menubar, navigate down to, 
bookmarks bar.  Go right and then look at that submenu.


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 hello,
 ok, I have created all these folders with my bookmarks nicely organized, but 
 now when I go to the bookmarks menu to access them to go to a site, I do not 
 see them? where are they?
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Re: VoiceOver problems with Skim was Re: Voice over mentioned in a software update?

2013-06-05 Thread John Panarese
   Just as a guess, try changing your view to continuous.  It seems in Preview 
that single page is not working as far as VO seems to not see the document.


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On Jun 5, 2013, at 1:46 AM, JAMES AUSTIN james.aus...@mac-access.net wrote:

 Thanks Zack, I'll use Preview until such a time that Skim access is restored.
 Best
 James 
 
 On 5 Jun 2013, at 06:43, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote:
 
 Hi,
 While I cannot confirm the problems with Skim on 10.8.4, I can suggest that 
 Preview has much improved. I should clarify that it has not yet given us 
 access to all the elements of PDF files, such as tables and forms, but it's 
 reading experience now very closely matches what you would receive with Skim. 
 Hopefully, more work will be done on this in 10.9.
 Best,
 Zack.
 On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:38 PM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No offense, but why would you need that if the compatibility in the native 
 reader has improved? Are there certain types of things that voiceover can 
 still not handle?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 Since updating to 10.8.4, has anyone else noticed that PDFs no longer seem 
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Re: troubleshooting the mac procedure

2013-06-05 Thread John Panarese
   There are various Apple Support Knowledge base articles that address this 
matter.  The thing is, it really comes down to understanding the startup 
process and then determining where the problem is occurring.  For example, 
there is a system initiation session, which includes Firmware, Booter, Kernel 
and System LaunchD processes, and the User Session, which includes the Login 
Window, User LaunchD and User Environment stages.

There are specific steps to take to determine where the problem is actually 
occurring in startup, but I don't know if there is a master article that 
addresses them all.  Also, some diagnosis methods are not accessible to the 
blind, since VoiceOver, for example, is not available during Safe Boot or when 
using a startup in Verbose Mode.


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On Jun 5, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Cathy flowersandhe...@gmail.com wrote:

 hello,
 I am not having a problem with my mac at the moment thankfully, but i 
 wondered if there is info out there to explain how to trouble shoot a problem 
 with a mac. I was reading all the suggestions for some one's problem today  
 and it had me wondering if there is a step by step process a person might go 
 through to resolve problems when the Mac isn't acting properly.   . I have 
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Re: Video adapter for the Mac Mini Question.

2013-05-31 Thread John Panarese
   This is true.  As long as you have that setup, the Mini beleives it has a 
monitor connected. 


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On May 31, 2013, at 5:43 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:

 Hi Jim,
 
 You might want to wait to hear from John Panarese, or some other Mac Mini 
 owner who uses the adapter combination in place of a monitor, but my 
 understanding is that as long as the VGA to NTSC converter from Sewell Direct 
 is plugged into the VGA end of the Apple mini display port VGA adapter, this 
 should work as though you had connected your Mini to a monitor that is turned 
 off. I think the Mini tries to detect whether a monitor is present when it 
 starts up, so you might need to have this adapter combination in place when 
 you start up your Mini.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
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 Hi Folks:
 
 I've got the necessary components to run my Mac Mini without a monitor.  My 
 question is, is there anything particular that I need to do with the VGA to 
 NTSC converter or does it just work out of the box? I did plug it in to a 
 USB port on the mac as well as connected it to a mini display port VGA 
 adaptor.
 
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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread John Panarese
   I don't think that is for Mail.  I think that is for how your contacts are 
listed in the Contacts app.


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On May 14, 2013, at 10:01 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ah I mut have missed it as I like my mail sorted in newest to oldest at the 
 bottom. lol!
 
 Take care.
 On May 14, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 It is in settings, under mail, and go down past contacts, and it says:
 sort order
 
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:06 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5
 
 
 OH darn! I thought there was a way to do it.  Well, I tried. . lol.
 
 Thanks and be blessed.
 On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, chris h (sky) challswor...@sky.com wrote:
 
 You are wrong it can't be done at all.
 
 On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your account. 
 I don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong 
 though.
 
 Take care
 On May 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:
 
 Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort to 
 see
 my oldest E-Mails first. Where on the iPhone5 can we change the options?
 
 Take care and thanks,
 
 Brenda
 
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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread John Panarese
   No, that has nothing to do with alphabetically.  In Mail, Contacts and 
Calendars passed the contact is last or first meaning how your contacts are 
displayed in the contacts app.  So, last name first or first name first.  This 
doesn't effect your Mail inbox order.


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On May 14, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 It is not, because my contacts are sorted alphabetically, and in the 
 settings where I mentioned, I have it set to show newest at the top.
 Glenn
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 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:02 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5
 
 
   I don't think that is for Mail.  I think that is for how your contacts 
 are listed in the Contacts app.
 
 
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 On May 14, 2013, at 10:01 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ah I mut have missed it as I like my mail sorted in newest to oldest at 
 the bottom. lol!
 
 Take care.
 On May 14, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 It is in settings, under mail, and go down past contacts, and it says:
 sort order
 
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:06 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5
 
 
 OH darn! I thought there was a way to do it.  Well, I tried. . lol.
 
 Thanks and be blessed.
 On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, chris h (sky) challswor...@sky.com wrote:
 
 You are wrong it can't be done at all.
 
 On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your 
 account.
 I don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong
 though.
 
 Take care
 On May 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:
 
 Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort to
 see
 my oldest E-Mails first. Where on the iPhone5 can we change the 
 options?
 
 Take care and thanks,
 
 Brenda
 
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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread John Panarese
   There is probably a way of doing so in the Mail app itself.  There is 
nothing in the settings to do this.  


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On May 14, 2013, at 10:53 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 All I know is that I did change the sort order of my eMail, and if it is not 
 there, then it is in the eMail app itself.
 Glenn
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:50 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5
 
 
   No, that has nothing to do with alphabetically.  In Mail, Contacts and 
 Calendars passed the contact is last or first meaning how your contacts are 
 displayed in the contacts app.  So, last name first or first name first. 
 This doesn't effect your Mail inbox order.
 
 
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 On May 14, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 It is not, because my contacts are sorted alphabetically, and in the
 settings where I mentioned, I have it set to show newest at the top.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:02 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5
 
 
  I don't think that is for Mail.  I think that is for how your contacts
 are listed in the Contacts app.
 
 
 Take Care
 
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 On May 14, 2013, at 10:01 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ah I mut have missed it as I like my mail sorted in newest to oldest at
 the bottom. lol!
 
 Take care.
 On May 14, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 It is in settings, under mail, and go down past contacts, and it says:
 sort order
 
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:06 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5
 
 
 OH darn! I thought there was a way to do it.  Well, I tried. . lol.
 
 Thanks and be blessed.
 On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, chris h (sky) challswor...@sky.com wrote:
 
 You are wrong it can't be done at all.
 
 On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your
 account.
 I don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong
 though.
 
 Take care
 On May 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:
 
 Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort 
 to
 see
 my oldest E-Mails first. Where on the iPhone5 can we change the
 options?
 
 Take care and thanks,
 
 Brenda
 
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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread John Panarese
   I just took another look.  I don't see anything obvious, which is not to say 
it doesn't exist.  I would assume there would have to be a way.  I have an 
iPhone 5 as well, btw.


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On May 14, 2013, at 11:04 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net meadowlar...@cox.net 
wrote:

 Okay, then, not sure why this isn't showing up.
 
 Take care,
 
 Brenda
 
 mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 14, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 Yes, I have the 5.
 I don't think the phone version makes a difference, but different carriers 
 might make a difference.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: meadowlar...@cox.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:37 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5
 
 
 I seriously now am wondering if it has to do with versions of phones? Are we
 all using the i5?
 
 Take care,
 
 Brenda
 
 mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
 - Original Message - 
 From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:20 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5
 
 
 It is not, because my contacts are sorted alphabetically, and in the
 settings where I mentioned, I have it set to show newest at the top.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:02 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5
 
 
  I don't think that is for Mail.  I think that is for how your contacts
 are listed in the Contacts app.
 
 
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Re: extending a wifi network using airport extreme or express.

2013-05-12 Thread John Panarese
That's interesting.  Then again, my gateway is my Time Capsule, so I can 
easily extend the network outside in the yard with my Express.  I have never 
tried it with non-Apple equipment.


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On May 12, 2013, at 1:44 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie 
wrote:

 Hey John,
 
 There's no problem getting an airport to join a wireless network.  This, of 
 course, then gets the airport its own IP.  It's very handy for, sharing 
 printers (assuming you don't have a wireless printer) or a USB disk or 
 something like that.
 
 However I've trawled googled for about 2 days and only last night, by a 
 fluke, discovered you can't extend unless the base station (as opposed to the 
 one extending) is apple.
 
 Of course you could probably do something like a WDS setup, but that, to the 
 best of my knowledge doesn't apply to Wireless N.
 
 Dónal
 On 12 May 2013, at 16:36, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
  I didn't realize that you can't use it to extend wirelessly.  I thought if 
 you had the Express or Extreme join the network, with Airpot Utility, you 
 could get it to extend an exisiting network?
 
   If not, I would then assume your idea of connecting with wires shoudl get 
 the job done then.
 
 
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 On May 12, 2013, at 8:24 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie 
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 Afternoon all,
 
 Subject says it all really.  I have a TP-link ADSL router which also 
 supplies wireless.  However I want to add an Airport Extrme, or express, 
 into the network to extend the signal.  Now given it's not manufactured by 
 Apple my understanding is I can't extend the network wirelessly but I'm 99% 
 certain that if I connect one of the LAN ports on the TP-link to the WAN 
 port on the extreme (I plan to use some of those ethernet adaptors that 
 plug into wall sockets) it should be possible.  Am I wrong?
 
 Cheers,
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Re: Downloads Location

2013-04-21 Thread John Panarese
   It should be in your applications folder.  That's where all Mac App store 
downloads go.


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Re: Airport extreme and 5GHZ channels.

2013-03-24 Thread John Panarese
Hi donald,
Well, assuming  you are using the latest version of the Airport Utility, 
you need to chose the, Wireless tab, once you have chosen to, Edit Base 
Station.  There are Wireless options that you can access by choosing that 
button and you should be able to set your preferences, including the 5 GHZ 
channel you want to specify.  Now, understand that I don't know the 
restrictions each country places on this area, as I only know that each country 
does have channels they allow or don't allow for wireless use.


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On Mar 24, 2013, at 10:01 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie 
wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I have the latest incarnation of Apple's Airport extreme.  I'm trying to do 
 two things:
 
 1. rstrict it to Wireless N only;
 2. choose a 5GHZ channel that's above 48.
 
 I can do neither.  I'm running the latest version of Airport Utility and the 
 device is on firmware 7.6.3.  Does anyone know if the geniuses in Brussels 
 have decided we shouldn't access 5GHZ channels above 48 because that's the 
 highest one I'm seeing?  Also, in good old Airport Utility 5.6 I could 
 option-click (with difficulty it's true) on the radio mode button and set 
 it to n only.  I don't seem to be able to manage this any more.  Has anyone 
 managed to set up their network to do N only and to broadcast on the 5GHZ 
 channels above 48?
 
 Thanks a lot,
 Dr. Dónal Fitzpatrick,
 School of Computing, 
 Dublin City University,
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Re: braille translation on the mac

2013-03-21 Thread John Panarese
You can use the free Louis translator in conjunction with an Enabling 
embosser.  Also, Index just released an application for embossing on the Mac as 
well.  None of these solutions are up to Duxbury kind of standards, but you can 
definitely produce Braille on the Mac if you desire.


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On Mar 21, 2013, at 6:11 AM, Terry clasper terry.clas...@btinternet.com wrote:

 Hi.
 What experience do  people have of hard copy braille translation and 
 embossers with the mac.
 I have a client who currently is using Windows and is keen  to move   to the 
 mac, however one of her key requirements is that she needs to produce grade 2 
 hard copy braille from fairly simple word processed documents.
 My thinking is that she could create the docs using either text edit or 
 pages, however then I need a translation program to convert the text to grade 
 to and ideally send it to an index everest.
 So, I guess another question is are people using the everest with the mac, 
 and if not, what embossers work well for people.
 Thanks very much for any help and information on this one!
 
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Re: safe mode and voiceover

2013-02-27 Thread John Panarese
   I'm not sure about the Braille display.  I know VoiceOver does not load at 
all.  When OS X safe-boots, it doesn't load any third-party items, such as 
KEXTs, launch agents, launch daemons, startup items, fonts, any user login 
items, or any user-specific launch agents.
 When you are in Save Mode, nothing but the bare essentials load.  This is done 
for specific troubleshooting and you can't turn on any services through Safe 
Mode.  You probably can in Single User mode, but this is a terminal line only 
interface, and,a again, I don't believe VO loads.

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On Feb 27, 2013, at 10:32 AM, JAMES AUSTIN james.aus...@mac-access.net wrote:

 Hi Will,
 
 I think I read somewhere that although sound drivers are not loaded in safe 
 mode, a Braille Display should work with VO. I could have imagined reading 
 this though.
 
 Also, I am not sure if your problems are due exclusively to the fact that you 
 have an SSD? I would think that there are plenty of folks who have an SSD 
 drive in their Macs running something other than OS X. If this is exclusively 
 an SSD issue though hopefully it will get sorted.
 
 Out of interest, have you tried booting into a bootable back up of OS X and 
 then tried partitioning your drive with  an MS DOS partition?
 
 
 
 Take care
 James
 On 27 Feb 2013, at 15:02, William Lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 hi all when holding down shift on a mac at boot up we get in to safe mode yet 
 voiceover does not work?
 i read this can solve my disc problem with bootcamp not being able to 
 partition. if flash ssd's are so unable to perform partitioning i worry in 
 case i may in future possess a bigger mac hd and need to partition
 
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Re: safe mode and voiceover

2013-02-27 Thread John Panarese
I would leave that question to someone more versed with that.  The problem, 
though, would be that it still would not load in Safe Mode.  Single User mode 
would probably be the best avenue for that.


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On Feb 27, 2013, at 11:51 AM, JAMES AUSTIN james.aus...@mac-access.net wrote:

 Hi John,
 
 You're right, in SUM, VO does not load. I woner if there would be a way of 
 installing  SpeakUP or some other flavour of a Linux/UNIX Screen Reader given 
 that OS X is built on and is UNIX compliant. But I think that might be 
 outside of the scope of this list.
 
 James 
 On 27 Feb 2013, at 16:47, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
  I'm not sure about the Braille display.  I know VoiceOver does not load at 
 all.  When OS X safe-boots, it doesn't load any third-party items, such as 
 KEXTs, launch agents, launch daemons, startup items, fonts, any user login 
 items, or any user-specific launch agents.
 When you are in Save Mode, nothing but the bare essentials load.  This is 
 done for specific troubleshooting and you can't turn on any services through 
 Safe Mode.  You probably can in Single User mode, but this is a terminal line 
 only interface, and,a again, I don't believe VO loads.
 
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 On Feb 27, 2013, at 10:32 AM, JAMES AUSTIN james.aus...@mac-access.net 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Will,
 
 I think I read somewhere that although sound drivers are not loaded in safe 
 mode, a Braille Display should work with VO. I could have imagined reading 
 this though.
 
 Also, I am not sure if your problems are due exclusively to the fact that 
 you have an SSD? I would think that there are plenty of folks who have an 
 SSD drive in their Macs running something other than OS X. If this is 
 exclusively an SSD issue though hopefully it will get sorted.
 
 Out of interest, have you tried booting into a bootable back up of OS X and 
 then tried partitioning your drive with  an MS DOS partition?
 
 
 
 Take care
 James
 On 27 Feb 2013, at 15:02, William Lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 hi all when holding down shift on a mac at boot up we get in to safe mode 
 yet voiceover does not work?
 i read this can solve my disc problem with bootcamp not being able to 
 partition. if flash ssd's are so unable to perform partitioning i worry in 
 case i may in future possess a bigger mac hd and need to partition
 
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Re: the difference between the sleep modes ?

2013-02-19 Thread John Panarese
When a Mac goes to sleep, a disk image is saved to flash memory of your 
current open apps and work in case your battery drains or there is a power 
failure while the sytem is asleep.  Basically, everything is suspended and only 
the most basic hardware is kept running, like power to USB or Firewire ports.


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On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 The only sleep mode I'm aware of is stand by.  where the system shuts down, 
 sort of, but leaves your system in a suspend state. It does not save all of 
 your work to ram disk though. Hibernate mode, which can be gotten through an 
 app I demoed a few months ago on this list saves the state of your 
 environment and puts the computer in to a suspended state, almost shutting it 
 down but not really, like the bares do in the winter. and shut down, shut 
 down the computer totally.
 
 Take care
 
 Feb 19, 2013, at 1:31 AM, Patricia Taylor zaylyiala...@talktalk.net wrote:
 
 Hello All 
 Can you please tell me the difference between the three sleep mode, and what 
 do they do?
 Any further information on this subject would be gratefully received.
 Zaylyia
 zaylyiala...@talktalk.net
 
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 the future is a mystery
 the  pressants is a gift .
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: William Lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com
 Subject: which sleep mode
 Date: 12 February 2013 15:23:46 GMT
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Reply-To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 
 hi all is ee three sleep modes are available for the mac
 sleep
 safe mode
 and hiernate
 
 i think in hibernate the ram memory is turned off? and safe mode it is kept 
 active but all current state of the mac is written to it when i close the 
 lid but doesn't hibernate mode save more battery power?
 i went 20 percent drain within 28 hours of non usage when i set it in 
 terminal, to be in hibernate mode
 
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Re: Very high intermediate towards advanced question about sharing

2013-02-08 Thread John Panarese
   I don't think web sharing is supported in Mountain Lion any longer.  I could 
be wrong, but I believe that is what I read.  Thus, you won't find that folder.


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On Feb 8, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
ch...@clgproductions.com wrote:

 OK guys.  So here's the situation.  I am running OSX Mountain Lion 10.8.2. I 
 have gone under system preferences, then to sharing.  I turned on web 
 sharing, which started the web Apache http daemon service built into the OS 
 by default out of the box.  The problem is, even after enabling the root user 
 account which for liability reasons I am not on list going to reveal how to 
 do, I still cannot see under /etc/apache any type of httpd.conf file that I 
 can edit in Text Edit like I would do on Unix/Linux.  I know that one for 20 
 bucks in the app store can get the server extention add-ons, but why do that 
 only for a GUI front end interface?  Sure it makes things like setting up dns 
 routing, port mascing, IP cloning etc. more easy, but... Basically, I only 
 need to really make two changes.  By default, the web daemon is set to be 
 user specific.  This means if I want to access a file over the web http 
 service, I must go to:
 
 http://IPAddress/~UserName
 
 IE:  http://192.168.1.11/~chris
 
 Then, basically I can access from there anything inside 
 /MacintoshHD/Users/chris/Sites, such as index.html
 
 So my question is, I want to change the directive within the conf file so 
 that instead of it being user specific, it is system-wide.  This way instead 
 of going to an address formatted like above, I could instead jsut go to:
 
 http://IPAddress
 
 and that's it.  no /~UserName at the end.  The only problem is, in doing 
 this, if I make the service system wide, then I'd also suspect I'd have to 
 somehow change the HTDocs location so that there would be one global system 
 wide directory where all web files would go.  Then I'd probably have to chmod 
 the thing and set not just the owner and the group, but also everyone else to 
 RW, read/write.
 
 chmod 666 /MacintoshHD/Users/chris/PathToWebFiles/*
 
 So really, I need to knwo A, where is the conf file, B, how to change those 
 two directives in the file.
 
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Re: Very high intermediate towards advanced question about sharing

2013-02-08 Thread John Panarese
   Yes, but I don't think the personal website is supported in ML any longer.  
Did you upgrade from Lion or Snow Leopard?  It might still be in sharing prefs 
because of that.  With my Mini, which I did a complete clean install on, there 
is no Web sharing service listed in my sharing prefs.



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On Feb 8, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
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 John,
 
 All I know is under system prefs, sharing, there is an option to enable web 
 sharing.  that's all I can tell ya.
 
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 Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 9:59 AM
 Subject: Re: Very high intermediate towards advanced question about sharing
 
 
  I don't think web sharing is supported in Mountain Lion any longer.  I 
 could be wrong, but I believe that is what I read.  Thus, you won't find 
 that folder.
 
 
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 On Feb 8, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 ch...@clgproductions.com wrote:
 
 OK guys.  So here's the situation.  I am running OSX Mountain Lion 10.8.2. 
 I have gone under system preferences, then to sharing.  I turned on web 
 sharing, which started the web Apache http daemon service built into the OS 
 by default out of the box.  The problem is, even after enabling the root 
 user account which for liability reasons I am not on list going to reveal 
 how to do, I still cannot see under /etc/apache any type of httpd.conf file 
 that I can edit in Text Edit like I would do on Unix/Linux.  I know that 
 one for 20 bucks in the app store can get the server extention add-ons, but 
 why do that only for a GUI front end interface?  Sure it makes things like 
 setting up dns routing, port mascing, IP cloning etc. more easy, but... 
 Basically, I only need to really make two changes.  By default, the web 
 daemon is set to be user specific.  This means if I want to access a file 
 over the web http service, I must go to:
 
 http://IPAddress/~UserName
 
 IE:  http://192.168.1.11/~chris
 
 Then, basically I can access from there anything inside 
 /MacintoshHD/Users/chris/Sites, such as index.html
 
 So my question is, I want to change the directive within the conf file so 
 that instead of it being user specific, it is system-wide.  This way 
 instead of going to an address formatted like above, I could instead jsut 
 go to:
 
 http://IPAddress
 
 and that's it.  no /~UserName at the end.  The only problem is, in doing 
 this, if I make the service system wide, then I'd also suspect I'd have to 
 somehow change the HTDocs location so that there would be one global system 
 wide directory where all web files would go.  Then I'd probably have to 
 chmod the thing and set not just the owner and the group, but also everyone 
 else to RW, read/write.
 
 chmod 666 /MacintoshHD/Users/chris/PathToWebFiles/*
 
 So really, I need to knwo A, where is the conf file, B, how to change those 
 two directives in the file.
 
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Re: email sound

2013-02-06 Thread John Panarese
 You might have to convert it to something different, but if you place it 
in your user library's sound folder, it should be available as an option for 
the Mail sound.


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On Feb 6, 2013, at 6:33 AM, William Lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote:

 hello to all i bought a ring tone for mdil notifications from iTunes for my 
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Re: Lynne To Review Cute FTP Pro 3.0 For Mac

2013-02-04 Thread John Panarese
   I didn't know it was even accessible.  I used the Windows version quite 
successfully for a few years back around 2001 and 2002.


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On Feb 4, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:

 Hi all
 
 Lynne, one of the other Mac Access administrative team, is planning to do a 
 review for our blog of the GlobalScape Cute FTP 3.0 Mac file transfer 
 utility.  If, that is, there is any interest.  She is planning an in-depth 
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Re: Locking files?

2013-01-22 Thread John Panarese
It's used to prevent any editing of a file or the like.  Some apps, like 
Text Edit and Pages, will allow you to do that within the app.  Otherwise, you 
can do so in the Finder using the Get Infor window.


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On Jan 22, 2013, at 1:51 PM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi there, the previous thread about the problem  emptying the trash and the 
 locking and unlocking of files thing got me curious, what is the purpose of 
 locking and unlocking files, and how is it done? Thanks.
 
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Re: Locking files?

2013-01-22 Thread John Panarese
   It depends on the App, but usually, yes.  


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On Jan 22, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:

 I see, and if it is possible within an app,  it's in the menus?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 22, 2013, at 2:00 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
   It's used to prevent any editing of a file or the like.  Some apps, like 
 Text Edit and Pages, will allow you to do that within the app.  Otherwise, 
 you can do so in the Finder using the Get Infor window.
 
 
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 Hi there, the previous thread about the problem  emptying the trash and the 
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 locking and unlocking files, and how is it done? Thanks.
 
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Re: Installing an earlier version of mac os x

2013-01-10 Thread John Panarese
As was pointed out, you cannot install an earlier version of the Mac OS on 
a system that came with a later version.  It's just not supported.  I don't use 
Pro Tools, but I know there is a Mountain Lion version.

I never had any luck trying to use Fusion to run an earlier version of the 
Mac OS, though, like with you, it could very well be something I have been 
doing wrong.  I don't even know if you can use Fusion on a Mac to install an 
earlier version of the Mac OS either.


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On Jan 10, 2013, at 8:42 AM, trevor trevor.sco...@btopenworld.com wrote:

 I have tried installing Protools 10 and 10.3.2 and I am getting a message to 
 the effect that it will not work with mountain lion.
 I couldn't find a version of lion so I bought Snow leopard.
 ` I try running it I get a message that I can't run it because I have a later 
 version of mac os on my machine.
 I have tried VM fusion and it doesn't recognize the snow leopard at all.
 Its probably because I am doing it wrong so, I would appreciate any help.
 
 I did manage however, to install windows with fusion so, I don't understand 
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Re: magic trackpad buggy

2013-01-07 Thread John Panarese
   Interesting.  I'd highly recommend it.  I use it every day with my Mac Mini 
and I know,at least, eight people that immediately come to mind who are also 
using it without any problems.  It's simply an awesome little device.  I can't 
account to the problems you are having, but please don't generalize your issues 
into an everyone should stay away from it matter.  
Are you sure you are connecting it properly through Bluetooth settings?


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On Jan 7, 2013, at 12:27 PM, william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi to all i'd stay away from a magic trackpad i getting rid of mine. it never 
 pairs if mac hasn't been used for a while or in general i ahve new batteries 
 in it. 
 not impressed really 
 
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Re: to add

2013-01-07 Thread John Panarese
 No, at this point, what I'd suggest you do is go into System Preferences 
and navigate to Bluetooth.
Then, find the table of devices and remove anything referencing the Magic 
Trackpad.
Reboot the Mac and when it's up and running, press the button on the right side 
of the Magic Trackpad for just a second.  You should get a pairing request on 
the Mac and just select the pair button.

If this is not working.
1. Are you sure the batteries are in right?
2. What kind of potential interference might you have in the area that might 
cause issues with radio devices.
3. If you can, try to pair the Trackpad with another Mac.
4. If all that fails, take the trackpad and your Mac to the Apple store.  If 
you can't take the Mac, jsut take the trackpad and explain the steps you have 
taken to troubleshoot the problem and that you want to determine if the device 
is defective.


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On Jan 7, 2013, at 12:28 PM, william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi to all to add to my last message I know i ahve tried holding the reset or 
 power button should i say on my magic trackpad but it never seems to want to 
 work and the bluetooth assistant keeps appearing. disappointing really
 
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Re: using the Mini without a monitor

2013-01-01 Thread John Panarese
Besides System Preferences not sticking, other issues reported have ranged 
from the Finder becoming bogged down, especially if you try to access an 
external drive or network share.  Also, Safari will be quite slow and exhibit 
busy signals quite often and VoiceOver will sometimes not start when the system 
boots, even if it has been left on at shutdown.


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On Jan 1, 2013, at 7:37 PM, Cathy flowersandhe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I am using the Mini without a monitor, and have learned from this list that
 system preferences do not always save. What are some of the other problems
 not having a monitor might cause? I will get one of those VGA converters if
 necessary but would like first to understand how pressing that is. if it is
 only a matter of the function keys, then I would rather save the money.
 . I have only had my Mac for a month now and the switch from windows has
 given me culture shock, so I don't know what is what right now.
 
 Thanks, Cathy
 
 
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Re: function keys as software keys

2012-12-31 Thread John Panarese
   If you are using the Mini without a monitor, this is one of the unfortunate 
side effects.  I had the same issue with mine with system preference changes 
not sticking.


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On Dec 31, 2012, at 3:35 PM, Cathy flowersandhe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Devin wrote:
 
 now, my function key settings don't stay like I put them,
 
 mine too and it is driving me nuts! Does anyone know why this is? is it a
 glitch in the Mac mini? Other settings I've changed stay changed, but not
 the function keys. Since I have a full apple keyboard  I need these function
 keys to work for voiceover.
 
 If it is a glitch I would like to contact Apple about it.
 
 Thanks, Cathy
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