Re: Installing Lion or Later

[chris hallsworth]

Hello Gordon and all activation is not required at installation time at leat 
with Windows 7 where you can leave the product key blank and use it for 
about 30 days before requiring to enter a product key and thus activate the 
installation. That to me is the difference unless I am missing the point.
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Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: Installing Lion or Later



Hi Mike, and Chris

it's also worth pointing out that Microsoft also assumes Internet 
connectivity when installing Windows.  Unless you have a volume license, 
you need to activate it at some point.  So, tel me, what's the difference?


Gordon


Gordon

On 3 Aug 2012, at 20:22, Mike Welty ratta...@gmail.com wrote:

I think it pulls some information from apple's servers when it's 
installing lion or later, plus it links in to ICloud too, have to keep 
that in mind.



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Re: Installing Lion or Later

[chris hallsworth]

Hello Gordon and all oh thank you so much for that. I didn't realize you 
could skip part of it.
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Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: Installing Lion or Later



Chris

There are Skip buttons whereby you can do the install if you don't have 
a network connection.  Also, there has been much talk on this list 
recently about installing via flash media.  So yes, of course you can 
install your OS without an Internet connection.


Gordon

On 3 Aug 2012, at 19:37, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com 
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You know guys, and this is no disrespect to Apple, but I don't like how 
they want you to install their software now. I read from their support web 
pages that an internet connection is required to install Lion or later. 
Well I have a point. What if you do not have either an ethernet or

wireless connection? Is there any ways around this? Thanks!
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Shut down sound

[chris hallsworth]

Hello all is there a way of assigning a sound when shutting down a mac 
computer and if so how? Thanks! 


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Re: can not burn ml

[chris hallsworth]

Hello Gordon and all for education's sake whereabouts in the menus is Disk 
Utility? Thanks!
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Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: can not burn ml



Hi Josh

Right, I'm with you now.  No, the two are independent applications 
although yes, you can access Disk Utility via the menu structure from 
within the recovery tool, just as you can from within the Mac OS X 
installer utility.  But, if it's too much hassle to go to the Utilities 
folder to access disk utility, how about just using the Mac OS X Finder 
shortcut, Command+Shift+U, then hitting D which will highlight Disk 
Utility.  Then just open it by pressing either Command+O or 
Command+Down-Arrow.


Like Windows in some respects, there are several ways of doing these 
things with Mac OS X.


Gordon


Gordon

On 2 Aug 2012, at 22:22, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:

I know you didn't... what I meant was this:

Through the recovery tool, you can access disc utility. You can also
access it, though, in the utilities folder. When you menntioned the
recovery tool, I thought you meant using disc utility in that. Maybe
you didn't, :)

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Josh

I'm not quite sure what this was in reply too.  The below doesn't quite 
seem

to make sense to me.  I never mentioned disk utility at all.

Gordon

On 2 Aug 2012, at 21:30, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:

Gordon: If you mean disc utility, you don't have to go through the
trouble of the extra startup steps, it is in the utilities folder and
as I found out today it can be copied to the apps folder for easier
access.

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Re: Shut down sound

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Well, if that is the case, how on earth do we know if the Mac is shutting 
down? Does VoiceOver stay until it is about to be turned off? Kind of like 
how iOS devices do it? Thanks!
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Subject: Re: Shut down sound



Yeah that'd be nice. That was one of the things that I noticed that
was different from windows. But sadly, I don't think there is.

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Hello all is there a way of assigning a sound when shutting down a mac
computer and if so how? Thanks!

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Re: Shut down sound

[chris hallsworth]

Hello David and all so could I put the mac computer to sleep at all times 
then when I need to use it wake it up? If so when should one fully shut down 
the system if at all? Thanks!
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Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 4:37 PM
Subject: RE: Shut down sound



In practice I have not  found this to be a problem as generally the Mac
shuts down a lot quicker. ON my IMac I do not shut down but morally put it
to sleep with command option escape and it is startlingly quick, pretty 
much
instantaneous really , I can tell the screen just goes black in a blink. . 
I

am not sure how your Mac Book will compare.

If I need to restart the system the Mac does naked a system sounds as it
reboots.
This is pretty much all I need - instant shut down through sleep and a
reboot on the odd occasion for which there are existing sound indicators.

What I do find difficult is using the option key to enter boot camp or
recovery disc or external drive boot . I cannot see when the menu when 
boot
options comes up so I end up having to count  up to 30 and even then I 
might

find myself going back into Mac OS by mistake. It would be great if there
was a second system sound when you get to option boot menu.

David Griffith

the


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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth
Sent: 03 August 2012 16:22
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Subject: Re: Shut down sound

Well, if that is the case, how on earth do we know if the Mac is shutting
down? Does VoiceOver stay until it is about to be turned off? Kind of like
how iOS devices do it? Thanks!
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Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Shut down sound



Yeah that'd be nice. That was one of the things that I noticed that
was different from windows. But sadly, I don't think there is.

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computer and if so how? Thanks!

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Re: DVDRemaster 8 currently on sale at the Mac App Store for a limitedtime

[chris hallsworth]

Hello Ester and all this sounds good and sounds a good alternative for 
programs like Dvd Audio Extractor found on the other OS. Thanks for sharing 
the info with us. Much appreciated.
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Subject: DVDRemaster 8 currently on sale at the Mac App Store for a 
limitedtime




Hi All,

In celebration of the new version 8 release of DVDRemaster Pro, the 
developer has put this app on sale at the Mac App Store for $9.99 for a 
limited time, reduced from its usual price of $49.99.  This application 
allows you to extract audio or video tracks from DVDs and also to 
recompress large DVS so they can be burned on standard DVDs, or convert 
them for watching on iOS devices or Apple TVs.  I should add that Gordon 
worked with the developer to improve the accessibility of this 
application.  You can get comments from other list members who have used 
this program extensively.  I think you can also get a trial download of 
the software from Metakine's web site at:

http://www.metakine.com/products/dvdremaster/

The URL for DVDRemaster 8 at the Mac App Store is:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/dvdremaster-8/id527609547?mt=12

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther
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Re: New iMac user with wi-fi/bluetooth problems

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Hello all so is this a problem with the Macbook line of products as well? 
Thanks!
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Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 10:01 PM
Subject: New iMac user with wi-fi/bluetooth problems



Hello,

I've had my first Apple iMac for two days now. I've managed to connect to 
my wi-fi network and the bluetooth trackPad works fine, but  with the 
following problems.


When the iMac goes to sleep after a period of inactivity, and then is 
awakened by pressing a key on the keyboard, both the trackPad and wifi 
connection is lost.


I've just re-paired my trackpad, which got it working again,  and tried to 
connect to my wifi network but with no joy.



When I went into network system settings, wifi didn't even see my 
network - it wasn't discovered. I think a reboot takes care of the 
problem, but that shouldn't be necessary.


Any ideas or suggestions?
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Re: Shut down

[chris hallsworth]

Sounds great, so I guess unlike Windows VoiceOver stays on until the very 
last second. Saying this as on the Windows machines the screen reader gets 
unloaded first before shutting down. So is this not the case with VoiceOver?
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Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: Shut down sound


That and the air will stop circulating because it will turn off.  When you 
start with your mac you will find it's shutdown is much faster than your 
windows machines before, unless something is open and blocks it and at 
some point v o will start speaking.  But cursoring around with nothing 
from v o will give you a quick clue that it's shutting down.
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Well, if that is the case, how on earth do we know if the Mac is shutting 
down? Does VoiceOver stay until it is about to be turned off? Kind of 
like how iOS devices do it? Thanks!

- Original Message - From: josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Shut down sound



Yeah that'd be nice. That was one of the things that I noticed that
was different from windows. But sadly, I don't think there is.

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Installing Lion or Later

[chris hallsworth]

You know guys, and this is no disrespect to Apple, but I don't like how they 
want you to install their software now. I read from their support web pages 
that an internet connection is required to install Lion or later. Well I 
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Re: Shut down sound

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Wow! so does this keystroke perform some kind of an instant shut down then?
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Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: Shut down sound


Also we should factor in that Mac has a fast shutdown.  It's a lot faster 
than my Windows xp.  It's even faster if you do the control option command 
eject method of shutdown.

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Hi Josh and Chris

No, this cannot be done.  But personally, I don't think it's really an 
issue.  Maybe it's just that I've grown so accustomed to Mac OS, or maybe 
it's just my in-built dislike of Windows.  I use it because I have too 
now and then, and it looks as though I'll have too for work, at least in 
the short term.


But to get back to the question in hand, the simple answer is no, unless 
there's a separate utility which can create some kind of script to access 
a sound file when the OS is closing down.  But I rout it.  Somebody else 
may know differently, we shall see.


Gordon

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Yeah that'd be nice. That was one of the things that I noticed that
was different from windows. But sadly, I don't think there is.

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Re: Shut down sound

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Hello Gordon and all yes this is very useful indeed and thanks. That's 
amazing there are keystrokes to shut down and restart the system. So where 
is the eject key then please on a Macbook? Thanks!
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Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: Shut down sound



Hi Chris

My only suggestion is that you can feel the fan and HD activity until your 
machine is shut down.  No, VoiceOver often goes down some time before the 
machine because the OS does a bit of housekeeping before it closes.  If 
you use the system shortcut, Command+Option+Control+Eject, unless there 
are operating system windows open which require user intervention, your 
machine will usually shut down of its own accord.  If you use the system 
shortcut Command+Control+Eject, the machine will usually restart of its 
own accord unless there are user windows open which require intervention. 
Sometimes, even those windows are closed by the operating system.  An 
example of one which usually does not close is iTunes prompting you to 
enter information.


I hope some of that was useful.

Gordon

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Well, if that is the case, how on earth do we know if the Mac is shutting 
down? Does VoiceOver stay until it is about to be turned off? Kind of like 
how iOS devices do it? Thanks!

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To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Shut down sound



Yeah that'd be nice. That was one of the things that I noticed that
was different from windows. But sadly, I don't think there is.

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Hello all is there a way of assigning a sound when shutting down a mac
computer and if so how? Thanks!

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Re: Installing Lion or Later

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Thanks, not sure if I know any libraries in my area who have macs, so will 
see what I can do.
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Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: Installing Lion or Later


Yeah. go to a friend's computer or a library one, sign in to the app store 
under your account, download lion or what ever and make a flash disk and 
then take it to the off line computer and then install it by booting in to 
the flash disk.


This is the reason why I can't use the recovery tool. My internet right 
now is so spotty I don't want to spend 2 days downloading 4 gigs. lol! So 
I'll just make the flash drive and stick it in when I need to do a clean 
instal and it will take about 3 hours including the transferring of data 
from a back up drive.
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they want you to install their software now. I read from their support 
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Ejecting a CD/DVD/other removable storage?

[chris hallsworth]

So, can I use this key to eject a CD or DVD or other removable storage? 
Thanks!
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Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: Shut down sound


The eject key is 1 key to the right on the mac laptop keyboard. I learned 
of this I believe through the apple manu when they did the keystrokes 
there at one time, 2 years ago. It is a nice way to shut down. Just hit 
control cmd option eject to shot down, cmd option eject to sleep and 
control cmd eject to reboot.


Take care.


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Hello Gordon and all yes this is very useful indeed and thanks. That's 
amazing there are keystrokes to shut down and restart the system. So 
where is the eject key then please on a Macbook? Thanks!

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Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: Shut down sound



Hi Chris

My only suggestion is that you can feel the fan and HD activity until 
your machine is shut down.  No, VoiceOver often goes down some time 
before the machine because the OS does a bit of housekeeping before it 
closes.  If you use the system shortcut, Command+Option+Control+Eject, 
unless there are operating system windows open which require user 
intervention, your machine will usually shut down of its own accord.  If 
you use the system shortcut Command+Control+Eject, the machine will 
usually restart of its own accord unless there are user windows open 
which require intervention. Sometimes, even those windows are closed by 
the operating system.  An example of one which usually does not close is 
iTunes prompting you to enter information.


I hope some of that was useful.

Gordon

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Well, if that is the case, how on earth do we know if the Mac is 
shutting down? Does VoiceOver stay until it is about to be turned off? 
Kind of like how iOS devices do it? Thanks!

- Original Message - From: josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Shut down sound



Yeah that'd be nice. That was one of the things that I noticed that
was different from windows. But sadly, I don't think there is.

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Re: Installing Lion or Later

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Ar, great to hear you can do it via the Apple retail store.
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Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: Installing Lion or Later


Not that I know of, I think they presume everybody has a fast internet or 
can get to an Apple store which I know of a person who does that for his o 
s upgrades because his internet seems to drop it partly through the 
download.
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Re: Using an iPad 2 - really new to this

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There should be a link that says for VoiceOver users click here. Double tap 
on this and the fully accessible version of this guide should load.
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Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 6:56 PM
Subject: Using an iPad 2 - really new to this



Hello, everyone.

I am using an iPad 2 from work. I have the iPad users guide installed, and 
it seems you would have to be a pretty good navigator just to read it. 
Even when I find what I'm looking for in the table of contents, it doesn't 
read it right away. Does anyone have suggestions how to make this happen? 
I am sure I don't know all the gestures.


I do have multiple disabilities. Typing is a very frustrating experience 
for me. Even when I find a letter, it's hard to keep my finger still 
enough to tap the key I want to type without accidently finding another 
key. I am hoping the tactile covers sold by the A T guys might help me 
with this, but if any of you have any suggestions for me regarding this, I 
would be open to trying them.


I will be practing a lot. I even find it hard to swipe in a straight line, 
but as time goes by, I am improving in that area.


Thanks,

Mary




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Re: Keyboard shortcuts

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Will do, so long I can start VoiceOver then all is well smiles.
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Subject: Re: Keyboard shortcuts



Originally it's cmd+fn+f5 but you can set the fn keys to perform the
function commands like in windows in keyboard settings. If you need
help with this just ask, :)

On 8/1/12, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes the learning curve will be a challenge but a load of fun. :) now on a
Macbook, when set up new, is it command-f5 to toggle VoiceOver or
command-fn-f5?
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Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 9:15 AM
Subject: RE: Keyboard shortcuts



It will be a learning curve but I am sure you will be more than up for
it.
In general VO K will put voiceover in key describer mode. A bit like
NVDA
1.
This is not a toggle though press escape  to leave VO key describer 
mode.


VO M will bring up the menu bar which will get you to most things you
need.
Shift VO M will bring up the context menu, a bit like shift F10 on
windows
or pressing application key.

unfortunately I have not found a source where both MacOs shortcuts and 
VO

keystroke are listed together.
This should get you started in Mail though.

Press command N for new Mail
Press command shift D to send Mail message.
Press Command shift Y to add to add contact.
Command R to reply
Command shift F to forward
Command Y to view attachment.
To insert an attachment to a mail in Mac simply press command c on the
file
you want to attach in finder.
Command tab back to Mail  and then simply press command v to paste the
attachment in the Mail. I love the simplicity of this method.
To enter multiple email addresses separate them with a comma rather than
the
semi colon you use in windows outlook. If you hear VO giving auto
complete
option you can either just press return to accept auto completion of an
email address or vo up and down to hear other auto complete options.
To set up groups you need to do this not in mail but in address book. 
Ask

again if you need help with this.
personally I use VO J to  jump between message table and message 
content.
Voiceover will read the message and VO jump you back again to the 
message

table ready to move to the next mail.
To move to the top of the mail list press shift vo home. - you will need
the
equivalent to home on the laptop.
To get to the bottom of list shift vo end or again the laptop 
equivalent.



Hope that helps get you started.   -Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth
Sent: 01 August 2012 08:37
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Keyboard shortcuts

Hello all.
Good news. Depending on how things go, I may be in acquisition of a
second
hand 13 inch Macbook running Lion, upgraded from Snow Leopard. I have
been
told it's a 2008 model.
So here is my first of no doubt many questions. How do I bring up a
document
of keyboard shortcuts, such as those found in Mail?
Thanks so much, I could do with as much help as I need throughout this
possible transition.
Chris.

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Viber alternative

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Hello all.
I am currently using Viber for free calls and text messages. While the app
is very good, their customer support seems to be a lot to be desired. The
same is true for accessibility. I reported the VoiceOver issues to them
yesterday, and guess what? They completely ignored my VoiceOver issues! Lol!
I also found out that the app does not support speaking via the
speakerphone, a disadvantage for hearing aid users. Please can you therefore
recommend any VoiceOver accessible apps that offer free calls and text
messages?
Thanks so much! It is greatly appreciated.
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Re: macbook

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Isn't a Macbook Apple's version of a full sized laptop?

On 03/07/2012 15:39, Patricia Taylor wrote:

sorry but I do not quite  understand  what is macbook ? ,can you help
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Re: test post

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Received.

On 30/06/2012 15:21, Krystal Watson wrote:

Testing to see if this post goes through   to the list
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Re: important about formal address

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Please try to get a refund by reporting the problem and mentioning the 
app isn't accessible with VoiceOver. This apparently is a good excuse to 
get your refund.


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hi every one please note this app does not support voice over i just brought it 
and contacted the dev to ask if he would add voice over support and he won't as 
the tools they use can not support it so please read this email and don't get 
caught like i did as i care i thaught i should let you all know as you may not 
have known about it and it will save you all money thanks every one and i hope 
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Re: iPad Third Generation

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Hello Lynn I plan to get either an iPad 2 or iPad 3 in the near future 
preferably the iPad 3.


On 18/06/2012 12:09, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:

Hello everybody

Is there anybody on list who previously owned an iPad 1 and has now upgraded to 
an iPad 2 or iPad 3? I'm asking because we're planning to upgrade and I want to 
know that it's worth while. I'm given to understand that 4G mobile connectivity 
is only supported in the US and Canada. if that's true, then is there any other 
noticeable advantage?

We're thinking of getting the reciprocal model to that which we have now; a 4G 
+ WiFi model, 64GB storage. So if anybody has experience I'd appreciate 
comment. I can only think of 1 good reason at the moment to upgrade, and I 
cannot discuss that. But if there are others I'd like to know what they may be.

Thank you.



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Re: iPad Third Generation

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Thought so thanks for suggestion.

On 18/06/2012 13:13, william lomas wrote:

i'd get a 3 chriss really makes more sense

On 18 Jun 2012, at 13:12, chris hallsworth wrote:


Hello Lynn I plan to get either an iPad 2 or iPad 3 in the near future 
preferably the iPad 3.

On 18/06/2012 12:09, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:

Hello everybody

Is there anybody on list who previously owned an iPad 1 and has now upgraded to 
an iPad 2 or iPad 3? I'm asking because we're planning to upgrade and I want to 
know that it's worth while. I'm given to understand that 4G mobile connectivity 
is only supported in the US and Canada. if that's true, then is there any other 
noticeable advantage?

We're thinking of getting the reciprocal model to that which we have now; a 4G 
+ WiFi model, 64GB storage. So if anybody has experience I'd appreciate 
comment. I can only think of 1 good reason at the moment to upgrade, and I 
cannot discuss that. But if there are others I'd like to know what they may be.

Thank you.



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Re: iPad Third Generation

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Sounds good I like anything fast so thanks once again.

On 18/06/2012 17:03, william lomas wrote:

all that is new really Chris is a slightly faster processor and dictation i 
think that's it, really so go for it if happy with ipad 2.

On 18 Jun 2012, at 16:59, chris hallsworth wrote:


Well I don't know what would I benefit from an iPad 2 compared to an iPad 3?

On 18/06/2012 15:27, Gordon Smith wrote:

Hi Chris

If you'd be happy with an iPad 2, they are selling them at the moment in the 
Apple store for 70 Pounds off the new price.  The iPad 2 starts at £329.00 
whereas the iPad 3 starts at £399.00.

Gordon

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Hello Lynn I plan to get either an iPad 2 or iPad 3 in the near future 
preferably the iPad 3.

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Awareness

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Hello all.
I want to share with you an app that turns your iPhone into a virtual 
hearing aid, Awareness. It uses your headphones and microphone to 
amplify your surroundings while being able to listen to your iPhone. If 
you use a headset mike the app uses the mike on that; otherwise it uses 
the in built one. According to the Awareness website they do a version 
for Android for those who have one. For those with an iPhone here is the 
link to the app.

http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/awareness!-the-headphone-app/id389245456?mt=8
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Why VoiceOver is cool for the sighted

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Hello all here is a link to an article on why VoiceOver is cool for the 
sighted. 
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Hidden gems in built in iOS apps

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Hello all here is a link to an article with some hidden gems in the 
built in iOS apps. 
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Accessible Facebook app Voicebook Vo

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Hello all here is a link to a blog post about an accessible Facebook app 
Voicebook Vo. 
http://www.lioncourt.com/2012/05/26/new-facebook-app-makes-accessing-facebook-easier-for-voiceover/

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Alva BC6 series and iOS

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How well does this combination work for you using iOS 5.1.1? Any drop 
outs in connections at all? Any tips and tricks to be aware of? Thanks!

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New Facebook app designed for VoiceOver users in mind

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Hello all here is a link to an article about a new Facebook app designed 
for VoiceOver users in mind. 
http://www.lioncourt.com/2012/05/26/new-facebook-app-makes-accessing-facebook-easier-for-voiceover/

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Re: AirPlay

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Airfoil is useful in scenarios where you either do not have Airplay 
compatible devices or you simply want to listen to your audio from your 
iOS device to your PC or mac for example.


On 25/05/2012 01:52, Gordon Smith wrote:

Hi Geoff

Yes, please don't misunderstand me.  I'm sure there are scenarios where AirFoil 
will be of great help.  I'm not familiar enough with Airplay as a whole to 
comment in detail.  The only thing I can say is that it works. :)

As for the review, we think it would be better posted to our sister group.  
However, I'll post a link when I get it done.  Lynne is working on another 
project at the moment, as am I.  So the review may have to wait a while.  But 
the more I play with this machine, the more I like it.

I'll keep you advised if I discover anything else.  But the iPod and iPhone 
dock is truly superb.  The LCD display panel slides off to the side of the 
machine which exposes the dock.  My iPhone 4S fits perfectly in the dock and, 
when you press the button to slide the display back into the centre of the 
machine, the dock moves backward, taking your iOS device with it, and then it's 
hidden by the display.  You can since the iOS device's contents so that all of 
the info is displayed on your main screen, and you can control the device fully 
by way of a remote control or top-mounted buttons.  The iOS device is really 
well supported.  The Panasonic picks up your bookmarks in, for instance, audio 
books and lets you start playing from there if you wish.  There are so many 
other things I haven't yet discovered.  But hey, I'm off to bed now so I'd 
better stop there. :)

Gordon

On 25 May 2012, at 00:37, Geoff Waalergeoff.waa...@gmail.com  wrote:

It still comes in very handy if, for example you want to broadcast from an 
IOS5.1 device to multiple AirPlay devices simultaneously.

I am very curious about your new toy, but not sure if I'm ready to deal with 
another list.  Perhaps just this once (since the topic came up) you can 
consider posting your review here, or providing a link to it?

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Voicebook VO

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This app released just now is designed for VoiceOver users in mind. Link 
is here. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/voice-book-vo/id523008719?mt=8ls=1

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Re: AirPlay

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I understand by playing with Airfoil and its Speaker application that 
both devices need to be connected to the same wifi network before they 
can be seen by music and other audio applications. So say in the music 
app you select one or more tracks, double tap the airplay button, then 
double tap the option corresponding to your Airplay device.


On 24/05/2012 14:44, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:

Hello everybody

I've just bought Gordon and I an airplay-enabled Panasonic desktop audio system 
which I'm hoping we can use to play audio on our iPhone and third generation 
iPod Touch. Just to confirm, what steps are necessary to set up an airplay 
device on the iOS end?

Thank you.

Lynne

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Re: AirPlay

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Yes you can providing the speakers are Airplay compatible. Or you could 
install Airfoil Speakers at the very minimum on your PC or mac and 
transmit audio wirelessly that way.


On 24/05/2012 18:44, william lomas wrote:

so with airplay can i have a speaker in my kitchen whilst preparing a meal and 
listen to my ipad in another pom?

On 24 May 2012, at 17:56, Gordon Smith wrote:


Hi Sarah

I'll have to look at this because my understanding is that iOS5.1.1 now 
supports Airplay devices natively.  So, for instance, we can set up our 
Panasonic device and it should appear in the AirPlay list.  I could, of course, 
be totally wrong as I've never paid much attention to AirPlay until now.  But 
given the fact that we have an AppleTV as well, maybe it's time I did.

Gordon

On 24 May 2012, at 17:37, Sarah Alawamimarri...@gmail.com  wrote:

Oh I guess tech has changed. lol! but yeah I do recommend air foil for what you 
are trying to do.

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Re: AirPlay

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Please refer to the documentation that came with your product.

On 24/05/2012 17:53, Gordon Smith wrote:

Hi Chris

OK, I'm hoping that we can do this without AirFoil now, although if need be I 
do have a license for it.  I guess that the first thing I need to do is break 
my usual number 1 golden rule, consult the user guide for the Panasonic system 
we just bought! ;-)

Thanks for your input.

Gordon

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wrote:

I understand by playing with Airfoil and its Speaker application that both 
devices need to be connected to the same wifi network before they can be seen 
by music and other audio applications. So say in the music app you select one 
or more tracks, double tap the airplay button, then double tap the option 
corresponding to your Airplay device.

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Re: ordering my ipad

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My opinion is it's each to their own. I like the idea of a larger 
screen, better quality sound than even the iPhone 4 and longer battery 
life, something stupid like 10 hours over wifi. The larger screen may 
make it easier for me to type, not that I can't manage the iPhone 4 (I 
can and still do to this day), but the more the merrier I say. The same 
is true for sound. The speakers on the iPhone 4 is the best I have heard 
from any phone, but there is always room for improvement. Again the same 
is true for the battery. The battery is excellent on the iPhone 4, can 
get 2 to 3 days out of it. But again the more the merrier. But I know 
there are battery cases for the iPhone such as Juice Pack, but haven't 
tried or needed to try any of these. My advice is to go to an Apple 
reseller and play with an iPad there which is what I will do. Hope these 
are useful.


On 12/05/2012 17:59, william lomas wrote:

hi all,

do people find the ipad 2 performance of a good quality with voiceover?
i can get a refurbished apple certified ipad 2 here in the UK 32 gig wifi only 
for 359 gbp, saving 120 gbp on an ipad 3 equivalent, apart from the screen and 
dictation what really would i need it for?
to pay 120 pounds extra for the screen that i can't see anyway and i hear more 
ram, do people feel the ipad 3 is worth it? or does the 2nd generation suit us 
as blind users fine?
interested in opinions?

Also I assume apple certified would be as new doul it? after having  passed 
stringent tests?

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Re: iPhone apps and security questions?

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I did it no problem on my iPhone 4. This was when buying an app last 
weekend.


On 29/04/2012 22:07, Glenn wrote:

Hi,
I tried to get an app today, called Voxer, and after putting in my password,
the app store came back and wanted me to verify my password, and then it
stated that it requires that I pick three questions for verification in the
future.
What a hassle!
Has anyone else encountered such a thing?
Thanks.
Glenn

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Re: Podcasts and iCloud

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Actually I think Downcast allows you to backup podcasts via iCloud.

On 08/04/2012 17:53, Sarah Alawami wrote:

Not that I'm aware of, reason, Not all of them are downloaded from itunes. Some 
of the podcast I subscribe to are from external sourcdes such as podbean and 
nasa itself. so I don't think there is a way for all podcasts to wynch across 
all devices with icloud. You can use itunes sharing though to play your 
podcasts from your computer.

Take care.
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Hi!

Is there a way of having iCloud sync podcast subscriptions across all of your 
devices which are joined to your account in the cloud?


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Re: Podcasts and iCloud

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No it's iCloud. I saw options in the settings pertaining to this.

On 08/04/2012 19:02, Sarah Alawami wrote:

You sure it's not the cloud? there's a difference. If it does allow you to 
back up via apple's iCloud then I stand corrected.  I think though the poster meant from 
the iTunes library but I could be wrong.
On Apr 8, 2012, at 10:46 AM, chris hallsworth wrote:


Actually I think Downcast allows you to backup podcasts via iCloud.

On 08/04/2012 17:53, Sarah Alawami wrote:

Not that I'm aware of, reason, Not all of them are downloaded from itunes. Some 
of the podcast I subscribe to are from external sourcdes such as podbean and 
nasa itself. so I don't think there is a way for all podcasts to wynch across 
all devices with icloud. You can use itunes sharing though to play your 
podcasts from your computer.

Take care.
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Hi!

Is there a way of having iCloud sync podcast subscriptions across all of your 
devices which are joined to your account in the cloud?


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App to amplify sound around you

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Hello all.
I have heard of apps that can amplify the sound around you. Please can I 
ask, what do you all use? Asking as I may need this as a backup due to 
hearing aid problems. Yes, I am hearing impaired. This is on an iPhone 4 
running iOS 5.1.

Thanks!
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Vizwiz

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Hello all.
Any tips on using Vizwiz would be greatly appreciated please. Asking as 
I have tried the app for the first time to find out who a letter is 
from. The first answer I got was, hand touching camera. So tried again 
and the second anser I got was, not sure, bit blurred, move camera 
back. The third time I got an answer as if they couldn't see anything 
at all!
Now, the first time I did the picture I held the phone slightly upwards 
from the item. The second time I placed the phone on top of the item. 
The third time I had the phone slightly left of the item.

This is on an iPhone 4 running iOS 5.1.
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Re: exchange and ios mail

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Yes. If set to manually it won't either push to your phone nor will it 
fetch on a schedule.


On 26/03/2012 08:21, Sarah Alawami wrote:

Ok. I set up a gmail account in ios mail using exchange and it works, except it 
will not push my mail to me in my notifications. I have the fetch set to 
manually. Can that have something to do with that?

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Re: Music won't open

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Check if assisted touch is turned on and if so please turn it off. This 
can have major implications with VoiceOver, such as inability to 
activate items on the screen. Go to settings, general, accessibility, 
assisted touch.


On 24/03/2012 16:26, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:

Hello everybody

This is really most frustrating. We have music and other material on our iPhone but 
clicking the Music icon on the main screen won't open the Music applet. Same 
is true of our iPad now I come to think about it, both running iOS5.1. Anybody else 
experienced this phenomena and, if so, how did you fix it?

Thanks.

Lynne


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Gmail via Exchange

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How exactly do I set this up? I tried to do it a few days ago when my 
computer was temporarily out of order due to an error on my part. Anyway 
it didn't work. I'm obviously missing a step. Please advise. Thanks!

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Re: macbook air and macbook pro

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Spot on. The Macbook air is Apple's answer to a netbook.

On 16/03/2012 05:18, michael weaver wrote:

could anyone tell me what the difference is between the macbook air and
the macbook pro?
i have the macbook pro but is the air more portable and the mac
equivalent of a netbook?
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National Express

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For all UK members, does anyone know of an accessible iOS app to book 
national express coaches? Please advise. Thanks!

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Re: a strange one!

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Go to settings, general, reset, reset network settings.

On 12/03/2012 10:09, Terry Clasper wrote:

Hi folks.
Hope someone can help with this annoying problem!
Since upgrading to ios 5.1 my 4S keeps falling off my wireless network.
After around 10 minutes of no use it says etged and the only way to get it
back is to go into the wireless network settings and double tap the
appropriate network.
My wife also has a 4S and its too been upgraded however doesn't have the
problem.
Prior to upgrading neither did I.
Any ideas?

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Im+ Pro

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I purchased Im+ Pro last night after having spare credit in my iTunes 
account, and so far I like it a lot. We are at version 6.x now, so don't 
know what has improved since 4.x or 5.x. But on the whole, the app runs 
excellent on both my iPhone 4 and iPod Touch 4, both running iOS 5.1. No 
lagging whatsoever. Haven't tried the voice features yet, but will 
report back if it still crashes. I also haven't tried navigating the 
text fields in the chat window, but will again report back if I see any 
problems. Overall I love this app and would highly recommend it if you 
fancy chatting on the go. Doesn't seem to drain the battery all that 
much, however I don't have the app running all the time; I rely on the 
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Re: Im+ Pro

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Ar I bought it as its price. It's way cool because of VoiceOver 
automatically speaking in chat messages which I was told still doesn't 
happen in the free version!


On 11/03/2012 20:40, Sarah Alawami wrote:

I love im plus. I don't hav ethe pro version yet. I'm waiting for it to go on 
sale lol! but I must agree the app is way too cool!

Take care all.

Sarah Alawami, owner and founder of WICS Radio America. Check us out on the web 
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I purchased Im+ Pro last night after having spare credit in my iTunes account, 
and so far I like it a lot. We are at version 6.x now, so don't know what has 
improved since 4.x or 5.x. But on the whole, the app runs excellent on both my 
iPhone 4 and iPod Touch 4, both running iOS 5.1. No lagging whatsoever. Haven't 
tried the voice features yet, but will report back if it still crashes. I also 
haven't tried navigating the text fields in the chat window, but will again 
report back if I see any problems. Overall I love this app and would highly 
recommend it if you fancy chatting on the go. Doesn't seem to drain the battery 
all that much, however I don't have the app running all the time; I rely on the 
push notifications instead
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iOS 5.1 and TypeInBraille

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For iOS 5.1 users, good news! There is an update out for TypeInBraille. 
It not only adds support for iOS 5.1; they have also improved the tones 
to make typing somewhat easier. You will notice that they are now more 
audible and slightly longer in length.

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Re: ios 5.

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Yes there is, it seems to play a lot nicer with VoiceOver. This is from 
reading. Talking of which, VoiceOver is more responsive even on legassy 
devices like the iPhone 4, 3GS and iPod Touch 4. Not sure about the iPod 
Touch 3 though.


On 09/03/2012 06:33, Ian McNamara wrote:

Hi, what are the improvement upgrades to this ios 5.1 updates, i've just got it 
but not noticing what improvements there are to it. Wondered if there are any 
improvements in siri for the ios users.

Ian McNamara `d
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Status report

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Hello all.
Please can I ask, how do you get status report to refresh so as to show 
your new updates? I gave instructions to a friend on Facebook, but it's 
not working for her. Here is what I told her to do.

1. Double tap and hold on the first status.
2. When you hear the tri tone, swipe down.
Is this correct?
Thanks!
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Re: Changing iPhone name

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Go to settings, general, about.

On 23/02/2012 10:41, Paul Hopewell wrote:

Hello,
How can I change the name of my iPhone 3GS? Can I do this without causing lots 
of disruption?
Many thanks.

Paul Hopewell

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Re: accessible way to listen to internet radio and record the stream?

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I wonder the same. Any equivalents to Tapin Radio out there? This is an 
excellent internet radio for the other OS, but I don't think a mac 
version exists.


On 17/02/2012 04:04, Maria Chapman wrote:

Hi.  the subject line says it all.  was wondering if there is an accessible app 
to listen to and record internet radio?  I use klango in windows but as far as 
i can tell from google there isn't a mac version of klango yet. so is there 
something mainstream? something i can use to search for stations and play and 
record the stream would be really good.  speaking of which, is there a way to 
see radio streams in itunes via country?  e.g. australian streams etc?

thanks.

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Re: wifi sync

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That's what I do, and it doesn't work.

On 16/02/2012 22:37, Sarah Alawami wrote:

Try turning on iTunes as you need to get iTunes running to work. it won't just 
happen as far as I've found out.

Take care.
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Check us out on the web at http://wics.cc and thanks for listening

On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote:


Yeah, I don't get it either.  I can never seem to get Wifi sync to work.  .  .  
I have never been able to get it to work, it always says that my Mac isn't 
available.
On Feb 16, 2012, at 1:26 AM, william lomas wrote:


hi all, does wifis ync work when the iphone 4 is connected to the wall 
outlet?
for me it only found the mac when plugged in to the mac itself via wifi what is 
the point in this?

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Re: Getting the latest generation of iPod Touch next week

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Correct. I don't like the internal speaker that much compared to the 
iPhone, which I believe has two, pretty darn good internal speakers. I 
still however like a bit of extra bass. This is down to my poor hearing, 
so choose to listen to music through my speaker dock.


On 13/02/2012 01:09, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Hi!

Going to buy an iPod touch next week so am wondering, what the quality of the 
internal speaker is like?

I don't intend using this much but may have to use it in the course of using the 
device with Voiceoversmile.

Shame, I read in my local Mac computer column some time ago that Apple plans to gradually faze 
out the iPod over time and this makes a certain amount of sense given that most customers 
prefer their music on an iPhone these days according to Apple so I'm going to get a 
Touch whilst the going's goodsmile.

I take it that using the Touch is pretty much like using an iPhone 4 without 
the phone?


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Re: remotely locking an iPhone from your mac?

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Enable Find my iPhone on your device by going to settings, iCloud. Then 
on your mac go to www.icloud.com.


On 09/02/2012 18:05, Sarah Alawami wrote:

Hello. I heard somewhere that you can remotely lock an iPhone from your mac. 
I've searched all over google but cannot find a way to do this. I'm asking on 
behalf of a friend how to do this and I'm curious myself lol!

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Sound dock recommendations

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Hello all.
First of all, I must stress I live in the UK. So UK availability would 
be of importance.

Now onto the question.
Does anyone have any recommendations regarding a sound dock for an 
iPhone 3GS? It must also charge the phone as well.

Thanks in advance for any recommendations.
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Re: How to tell if iPhone is locked to a specific network

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Interesting this one, the only way I know of is to remember where you 
got the iPhone from. If it's from a carrier chances are it will be 
locked. If it's from Apple or some other reseller then chances are 
unlocked but depending on retailer it could be locked as well.


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Hello,
I have an iPhone 3GS running the latest IOS 5 software. Short of changing my 
SIM card is there any way to know whether the ipHone is locked to a specific 
mobile network or not? Can I determine this from the iPhone settings in some 
way?
Many thanks.

Paul Hopewell

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Re: Usable mainstream GPS on the iPhone?

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The maps app is built into all iOS devices as far as I know.

On 30/01/2012 13:49, Michael Busboom wrote:

I forgot to ask one other question, Justin: Is there an accessible app for the 
iPhone or iPad that would allow one to use Google Maps?

Thanks again,

Mike

On 30,Jan,2012, at 12:36 PM, Justin Mann wrote:


Mike,
Personally I think that Navigon s the best.  First, it does have the ability to 
work in Europe, and the U.S.  Second, it's reasonably priced anywhere from $30 
U.S at the low end, and $50 U.S at the high end.  It doesn't use goggle maps, 
but it does use the navteq mapping solution.  As far as i can recall, it has 
maps for , the U.S, Canada, Europe and I think Australia, but don't hold me to 
the later.
Hope this helps,
Justin

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Greetings,

I will soon acquire an iPhone 4S and had a couple of questions about GPS 
solutions.

1.  Although I know of Sendero Look-Around, I am wondering if there is an app 
that works with something like Google Maps.  It would really be even better if 
one could get turn-by-turn instructions.

2.  I can't really make use of a GPS solution unless it works in several 
countries.  The appeal with regard to Google Maps is that this problem would be 
solved.

3.  Lastly, approximately how much do the GPS solutions that work with 
VoiceOver cost?

My thanks to all,

Mike

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Re: Quick time 7 and VO

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Can't help you with this one but I am curious. Does the majority of you 
use QuickTime or iTunes to play your media? Asking as part of my mac 
research. Thanks!


On 23/01/2012 06:52, 1smart...@cox.net wrote:

I am having some difficulty with Quick Time 7 and VO. Is anyone here using 
QT-7? Specifically, it appears that, even though I press VO-spacebar on the 
play button, the button does not activate.

Thanks for any input.

Karen
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Re: lost sound, no speech. help ASAP

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Right, so what does either Option-F12 or FN-Option-F12 do?

On 23/01/2012 02:04, Sarah Alawami wrote:

Try hitting fn plus option f12 and if that does not work option 12.

Then vo right I think 5 times and up arrow. to the default thing. I might be 
wrong on the number of vo right arrows though.
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i was playing around with the sound setting in system prefs on the mac, and 
chose a soundcard that's not the default one. i have no speech now as a 
result... any way to get it back to the headphones or whatever the default one 
is/was? thanks
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Startup question

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Hello all.
Please can I ask, how would I go about making an application start 
automatically on the mac?

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Re: Reading .rtf files on the Mac

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I heard Text Edit reads them fine, but what about Beans? Asking as this 
was a recommended free Word Processor alongside Text Edit. Please 
advise. Thanks!


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Hello,

What do people recommend for reading .rtf files please?

Regards,

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Re: Braille Refreshable Display

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You will have to use VO to drive the display but otherwise I can't see 
why not.


On 21/01/2012 18:19, Christo Thiardt wrote:

Hello

is it possible to use one's Braille Display to read through a document from top 
to bottom without using VO or normal cursor keys?

If so, can someone advise?

Many thanks.

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Re: Computer crashing when trash emptyed

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When you reinstalled Lion, did you first use Disk Utility to erase the 
Mac OS HD partition?


On 21/01/2012 17:24, Eric Caron wrote:

Dear Listers,

In a few hours I'll head to a Apple store because this problem seems 
beyond me.  When I empty the trash my computer becomes locked up.  Finder says 
busy and I can not re lunch finder it just keeps saying busy.  Re starting the 
computer puts me in the same position with finder locked. I have talked to 
Apple and as a result re installed Lyon.  the problem persists.

I have found one work around.  With sighted help I learned that the trash wind 
is open.  If I turn off Voice Over and press command W to close the window then 
re open Voice over I get my finder back.  This only seems to happen if I empty 
the trash when the trash is actually empty all ready.  For example before I 
clone my drive for a backup I might empty the trash.  If it happens to be empty 
my finder crashes and locks up my computer.

My biggest concern is that this might be a sign that something might be wrong 
with my hardware.  I still have Apple care for a few months so want to resolve 
the issue.

I know this is a strange concern.  It seems like I have had a series of issues 
with trash over the last few years.

Any tips on how to resolve this would be appreciated.

Again I have re installed Lyon and I have done repair disk.
I have also removed my voice Over preferences and then imported them back.  
this did not help.

Eric Caron
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Re: seeing online status with Skype

[chris hallsworth]

Lol! I love the name growl! So what does it growl at then? Lol! Only 
joking of course.


On 21/01/2012 20:55, Sarah Alawami wrote:

I think but I'm not sure if thatwould only work with growl but  I'm still 
learning skype lol!

Take care all.
On Jan 21, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:


Hello,

Perhaps I am missing something in the thread, but I am using Skype Version 
5.1.0.914 and the most recent iteration of Lion.  I am able to hear both Online 
status, as well as mood messages.  If I can help, please let me know.  
Otherwise, I'll keep out of the conversation since I didn't catch the beginning 
of the thread.  I am sure that there are more recent versions of Skype, but I 
won't update since my current version is working flawlessly.  Perhaps it was a 
rumor or perhaps it pertained to an iPhone version of Skype, but I am concerned 
that newer versions of Skype might not be as accessible.  my iPhone version of 
Skype is working fine, too. :)  Don't know what version it is offhand.

By the way, if you are looking for Skype 2.8 for the Mac, you might try the 
following link:
http://www.oldversions.com
I checked there, and version 2.8 was still available.

Enjoy the rest of the weekend and best regards,

Mike

On 20,Jan,2012, at 9:38 PM, chris hallsworth wrote:


I was told Skype 2.8 for Mac OSX works fine on Lion but I don't know how you 
can get it.

On 20/01/2012 19:53, chris hallsworth wrote:

Wow that is no good in my opinion. Mood messages don't matter that much
to me unless it is of some importance, like please text before calling.

On 20/01/2012 18:06, Mike Welty wrote:

This is for mac OSX

On 1/20/2012 11:59, chris hallsworth wrote:

Skype for iOS or Skype for Mac OSX?

On 20/01/2012 02:35, Mike Welty wrote:

Hey all,
Just made a discovery earlier today in regards to seeing a contact's
online status in Skype.
If the person has a mood message, voiceover won't read if they have
online status or what ever they are but if they don't have any mood
test it seems too. Not sure if this a voiceover issue or a Skype one
or both. Just thought I'd pass along what I noticed.
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Re: Computer crashing when trash emptyed

[chris hallsworth]

Ok I see you solved it by deleting a certain file. That's good to hear.

On 21/01/2012 19:55, Eric Caron wrote:

Hi Chris and others,

No,  I just ran the install app I had saved when I bought Lyon.  I then ran 
software update and it downloaded a big Lyon combo update.

I'm a bit afraid to delete my hard drive then install because of the loiscences 
and such I have for programs like VM fusion and Amadeus Pro.  Also, I struggled 
to get VM fusion working with JAWS and really don't want to go through that 
again if I can avoid it!

eRic Caron
On Jan 21, 2012, at 2:42 PM, chris hallsworth wrote:


When you reinstalled Lion, did you first use Disk Utility to erase the Mac OS 
HD partition?

On 21/01/2012 17:24, Eric Caron wrote:

Dear Listers,

In a few hours I'll head to a Apple store because this problem seems 
beyond me.  When I empty the trash my computer becomes locked up.  Finder says 
busy and I can not re lunch finder it just keeps saying busy.  Re starting the 
computer puts me in the same position with finder locked. I have talked to 
Apple and as a result re installed Lyon.  the problem persists.

I have found one work around.  With sighted help I learned that the trash wind 
is open.  If I turn off Voice Over and press command W to close the window then 
re open Voice over I get my finder back.  This only seems to happen if I empty 
the trash when the trash is actually empty all ready.  For example before I 
clone my drive for a backup I might empty the trash.  If it happens to be empty 
my finder crashes and locks up my computer.

My biggest concern is that this might be a sign that something might be wrong 
with my hardware.  I still have Apple care for a few months so want to resolve 
the issue.

I know this is a strange concern.  It seems like I have had a series of issues 
with trash over the last few years.

Any tips on how to resolve this would be appreciated.

Again I have re installed Lyon and I have done repair disk.
I have also removed my voice Over preferences and then imported them back.  
this did not help.

Eric Caron
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Re: seeing online status with Skype

[chris hallsworth]

Skype for iOS or Skype for Mac OSX?

On 20/01/2012 02:35, Mike Welty wrote:

Hey all,
Just made a discovery earlier today in regards to seeing a contact's online 
status in Skype.
If the person has a mood message, voiceover won't read if they have online 
status or what ever they are but if they don't have any mood test it seems too. 
Not sure if this a voiceover issue or a Skype one or both. Just thought I'd 
pass along what I noticed.
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Re: files

[chris hallsworth]

Aw wow so there are keystrokes to move to trash and to empty it unlike 
the other OS.


On 19/01/2012 21:46, Sarah Alawami wrote:

Just hit cmd backspace to move to trash. To empty  cmd shift  back space. Now I 
can't remember as my hands just do the keystrokes. lol!

Take care.
On Jan 19, 2012, at 12:01 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote:


HI there.  How do I delete a file
I've tried to drag and drop to the recycle bin but sometimes it says it is not 
dragable and other times there is still a copy in the original area still.
And if I am in edit txt program how do I save a file but not get many of the 
same file if it was once saed already.
Sorry still don't understand spell check in mail.
THanks for any help.
Lovette

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Re: seeing online status with Skype

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Wow that is no good in my opinion. Mood messages don't matter that much 
to me unless it is of some importance, like please text before calling.


On 20/01/2012 18:06, Mike Welty wrote:

This is for mac OSX

On 1/20/2012 11:59, chris hallsworth wrote:

Skype for iOS or Skype for Mac OSX?

On 20/01/2012 02:35, Mike Welty wrote:

Hey all,
Just made a discovery earlier today in regards to seeing a contact's
online status in Skype.
If the person has a mood message, voiceover won't read if they have
online status or what ever they are but if they don't have any mood
test it seems too. Not sure if this a voiceover issue or a Skype one
or both. Just thought I'd pass along what I noticed.
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Re: seeing online status with Skype

[chris hallsworth]

I was told Skype 2.8 for Mac OSX works fine on Lion but I don't know how 
you can get it.


On 20/01/2012 19:53, chris hallsworth wrote:

Wow that is no good in my opinion. Mood messages don't matter that much
to me unless it is of some importance, like please text before calling.

On 20/01/2012 18:06, Mike Welty wrote:

This is for mac OSX

On 1/20/2012 11:59, chris hallsworth wrote:

Skype for iOS or Skype for Mac OSX?

On 20/01/2012 02:35, Mike Welty wrote:

Hey all,
Just made a discovery earlier today in regards to seeing a contact's
online status in Skype.
If the person has a mood message, voiceover won't read if they have
online status or what ever they are but if they don't have any mood
test it seems too. Not sure if this a voiceover issue or a Skype one
or both. Just thought I'd pass along what I noticed.
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Connect to wifi on mac

[chris hallsworth]

Hello all.
As you know, I am researching the possibility of getting a mac in the 
future. This may not happen until a few months or more, but still, I 
want to ask a question.
How would I go about connecting to wifi networks? I was able to connect 
to my Sky wifi with no problems on both the iPhone and iPod Touch, once 
I changed the WPA key anyway, but that was down to user error. Is it a 
similar technique on the mac? If for some reason I cannot connect to my 
wifi network, can I just plug the ethernet cable into the appropriate 
port and it will just connect?

Please advise.
Thanks!
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Re: Switching to a mac

[chris hallsworth]

Interesting Daniel, I am hearing impaired as well and it appears I can 
understand Alex very well. Of course speech synthesis is very 
subjective, so what may suit one may not necessarily suit the other.


On 15/01/2012 15:09, Daniel McGee wrote:

Chris a useful resource that I recommend checking out is
www.macfortheblind.com

Hopefully you should enjoy that site.
I love my Mac and I would love to get an iPhone but the voices i just don't 
simply understand them and the touch screen doesn't really appeal to me.
The only thing I wish I could have on the Mac and IOS is elquance. If I had 
this I wouldn't go back to windows and before anyone asks this is not a 
blindness desire but is more needed for my hearing impairment. So if that day 
comes around I will be jumping around like crazy.  So for now I use both 
platforms because of the above situation I have.

Good luck with your research. Oh and by the way I brought a 13 inch Mac Book 
Pro.
Just as a side note when I went the Apple store in blue water I noticed that 
the Mac Book Air has two USB ports which is the same as the Mac Book Pro. so 
all you need to think about is do you want a CD-ROM drive or not. Obviously I 
chose that but I don't know how much they are going to be around in Apple's 
line up of computers. Just so you know that.

Thanks

Daniel
On 15 Jan 2012, at 13:00, David Griffith wrote:


I have had no need to use anything else but Preview, and reading has been
easy with this, but on the Mac you are spoilt for choice with PDF reading.
There are several programs available. So much so that PDF, which is a real
pain on the Windows side is a very reasonable format on the Mac side. Of
course if the PDF is graphic based and has no text then VO will struggle.
The robobraille file conversion can handle most of these graphics based
documents but I tend to duck back into Fusion and Kurzweil for these.

David Griffith
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Subject: Re: Switching to a mac

So David, can you read PDFs fine on the mac? If so what app do you use?
I have heard of Preview, does this work well with VoiceOver? I suspect it
does since it is built in, but no harm in asking is there.

On 14/01/2012 23:18, David Griffith wrote:

I am sure that the  Mac will provide a good experience for all the
things you mention.

I take the approach of using VM fusion with my Mac and I consider that
I therefore have the best of both worlds. If I need to study a table I
switch very quickly to Windows, Word and Jaws. If I need to read a PDF
I use the Mac.
I set up a boot camp partition but, if starting again from scratch, I
would not now bother as fusion is a far better solution , including
the capacity to install and set up Windows without sighted help.
Once you get used to it file management is far easier on the Mac.
There are differences but whenever I am in Windows I find myself
wanting to use column view .
Downloading files is very efficient and fast on the Mac in my
experience but again it is completely different from Windows and you
will need to learn different techniques if you want to monitor downloads.
The main problem with picking up the Mac is that there are lots of
information out there which is useful for visually impaired people but
it tends not to be centralised as much as for the commercial Windows
screen readers. However lists like this are invaluable as a learning

assistant.

A big learning curve is ahead but I am sure you will enjoy it.

David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris
hallsworth
Sent: 14 January 2012 17:15
To: Mac OSX   iOS Accessibility
Subject: Switching to a mac

Hello all.
Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and
it's time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am
considering switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following:
1. Browse websites such as Facebook.
2. Manage my e-mail.
3. Listen to and manage music.
4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com.
5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small,
with hardly any formatting or other complex requirements.
I am looking into a laptop style mac.
6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary,
either via bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front.
I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with
no rush necessary.
Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since

1997.

It kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod Touch.
Thanks for any comments, good or bad, on this. It will be much

appreciated.

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Re: Switching to a mac

[chris hallsworth]

Daniel why not try an iDevice now as it comes preloaded with iOS 5. The 
high quality voices can now be downloaded and used on iOS 5 on all iDevices.


On 15/01/2012 20:28, Daniel McGee wrote:

Indeed Chris, for the most part I find Alex nice to listen to but now and then 
I get a word that he doesn't pronounce promptly. Where as eloquence just seems 
more natural sounding in saying words correctly.
Chris I am curious since you have and I device which voice do you use for it. 
See when I got one a couple of years ago I simply didn't understand and still 
possibly won't the nuance english voices which frustrates me because I really 
want to use an I device but can't because of this voice problem.

Daniel
On 15 Jan 2012, at 17:15, chris hallsworth wrote:


Interesting Daniel, I am hearing impaired as well and it appears I can 
understand Alex very well. Of course speech synthesis is very subjective, so 
what may suit one may not necessarily suit the other.

On 15/01/2012 15:09, Daniel McGee wrote:

Chris a useful resource that I recommend checking out is
www.macfortheblind.com

Hopefully you should enjoy that site.
I love my Mac and I would love to get an iPhone but the voices i just don't 
simply understand them and the touch screen doesn't really appeal to me.
The only thing I wish I could have on the Mac and IOS is elquance. If I had 
this I wouldn't go back to windows and before anyone asks this is not a 
blindness desire but is more needed for my hearing impairment. So if that day 
comes around I will be jumping around like crazy.  So for now I use both 
platforms because of the above situation I have.

Good luck with your research. Oh and by the way I brought a 13 inch Mac Book 
Pro.
Just as a side note when I went the Apple store in blue water I noticed that 
the Mac Book Air has two USB ports which is the same as the Mac Book Pro. so 
all you need to think about is do you want a CD-ROM drive or not. Obviously I 
chose that but I don't know how much they are going to be around in Apple's 
line up of computers. Just so you know that.

Thanks

Daniel
On 15 Jan 2012, at 13:00, David Griffith wrote:


I have had no need to use anything else but Preview, and reading has been
easy with this, but on the Mac you are spoilt for choice with PDF reading.
There are several programs available. So much so that PDF, which is a real
pain on the Windows side is a very reasonable format on the Mac side. Of
course if the PDF is graphic based and has no text then VO will struggle.
The robobraille file conversion can handle most of these graphics based
documents but I tend to duck back into Fusion and Kurzweil for these.

David Griffith
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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth
Sent: 15 January 2012 00:29
To: Mac OSX   iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Switching to a mac

So David, can you read PDFs fine on the mac? If so what app do you use?
I have heard of Preview, does this work well with VoiceOver? I suspect it
does since it is built in, but no harm in asking is there.

On 14/01/2012 23:18, David Griffith wrote:

I am sure that the  Mac will provide a good experience for all the
things you mention.

I take the approach of using VM fusion with my Mac and I consider that
I therefore have the best of both worlds. If I need to study a table I
switch very quickly to Windows, Word and Jaws. If I need to read a PDF
I use the Mac.
I set up a boot camp partition but, if starting again from scratch, I
would not now bother as fusion is a far better solution , including
the capacity to install and set up Windows without sighted help.
Once you get used to it file management is far easier on the Mac.
There are differences but whenever I am in Windows I find myself
wanting to use column view .
Downloading files is very efficient and fast on the Mac in my
experience but again it is completely different from Windows and you
will need to learn different techniques if you want to monitor downloads.
The main problem with picking up the Mac is that there are lots of
information out there which is useful for visually impaired people but
it tends not to be centralised as much as for the commercial Windows
screen readers. However lists like this are invaluable as a learning

assistant.

A big learning curve is ahead but I am sure you will enjoy it.

David Griffith

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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris
hallsworth
Sent: 14 January 2012 17:15
To: Mac OSXiOS Accessibility
Subject: Switching to a mac

Hello all.
Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and
it's time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am
considering switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following:
1. Browse websites such as Facebook.
2. Manage my e-mail.
3. Listen to and manage music.
4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like

Switching to a mac

[chris hallsworth]

Hello all.
Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and 
it's time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am 
considering switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following:

1. Browse websites such as Facebook.
2. Manage my e-mail.
3. Listen to and manage music.
4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com.
5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small, 
with hardly any formatting or other complex requirements.

I am looking into a laptop style mac.
6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary, 
either via bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front.
I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with no 
rush necessary.
Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since 
1997. It kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod 
Touch.

Thanks for any comments, good or bad, on this. It will be much appreciated.
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[chris hallsworth]

Thanks Bryan. I plan to use m.facebook.com and I have heard that it is 
displayed differently, possibly even inaccessible, on a mac. Is this 
really true? I'm sure I could work it out, but anyway, please advise. 
Thanks!


On 14/01/2012 18:24, Bryan Jones wrote:

Hi Chris,

To expand  a bit on Sarah's note, you can implement her Facebook / IE8 
suggestion by doing the following:
1. when you're in Safari go to Safari Preferences by pressing Command+comma.
2. In Safari Preferences interact with the toolbar, select theAdvanced button, stop interacting 
with the toolbar, navigate to the item labeled, Show Develop Menu in Menu Bar, and make sure this 
checkbox is checked. This will add a menu item labeled Develop into the menu for both Safari and 
Webkit.
3. To set Safari to identify itself as Internet Explorer 8, go to the Develop 
menu / User Agent / and select Internet Explorer 8.

Another option you're probably already aware of is the feature-limited but friendlier 
mobile version of FB available at m.facebook.com

HTH,
Bryan

, On Jan 14, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

lol. Good luck in browsing the facebook site. If you want to do that then you 
have to open it using the develop ,agent menu and choosing IE8. trust  me this 
works.


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Oh, good point, as I would need Firefox for those times when a captcha 
is needed and no audio version is available. There was Solona but the 
developer is very ill and hasn't been online for a while. So I consider 
it unreliable and useless. So like to use Webvisum. Well I could use the 
other OS for that.


On 14/01/2012 17:47, Sarah Alawami wrote:

lol. Good luck in browsing the facebook site. If you want to do that then you 
have to open it using the develop ,agent menu and choosing IE8. trust  me this 
works. and the mail program is just wonderful in my opinion As for editing go 
with text edit as it is already there. You can accomplish all you need there. 
In fact I only use the other os for klango and firefox as tha'ts not accessibil 
in osx yet.

Take care.
On Jan 14, 2012, at 9:15 AM, chris hallsworth wrote:


Hello all.
Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and it's 
time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am considering 
switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following:
1. Browse websites such as Facebook.
2. Manage my e-mail.
3. Listen to and manage music.
4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com.
5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small, with 
hardly any formatting or other complex requirements.
I am looking into a laptop style mac.
6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary, either via 
bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front.
I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with no rush 
necessary.
Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since 1997. It 
kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod Touch.
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Hmmm not sure yet but either option sounds good.

On 14/01/2012 21:00, Bubba wrote:

Which laptop/notebook are you considering ? Mac Book Pro or Mac Book Air?


Bubba
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Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 12:15 PM
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Switching to a mac

Hello all.
Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and it's
time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am considering
switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following:
1. Browse websites such as Facebook.
2. Manage my e-mail.
3. Listen to and manage music.
4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com.
5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small, with
hardly any formatting or other complex requirements.
I am looking into a laptop style mac.
6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary, either
via bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front.
I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with no
rush necessary.
Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since 1997.
It kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod Touch.
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Re: Switching to a Mac

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Oh, very true. Well it looks like a Macbook pro then, as I have several 
USB devices, like my iPhone/iPod USB cable, external drive, portable 
speakers, some USB cables that specifically charge devices, and so on.


On 14/01/2012 20:46, Mike Welty wrote:

If you planned to go with anexternal optical drive keep in mind it does
need USB which limits the ports you do have available at any given time.
you may only need it for a short time but that's one port used up

--
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Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 14:00
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Re: Switching to a Mac


True, haven't really thought about needing an optical drive. I do get
the occasional music CD but I purchase most things online via
electronic download then burn them to CD/DVD at a later date. So yes,
an optical drive would be nice but if not I could always purchase an
external one.

On 14/01/2012 17:49, Mike Welty wrote:

The Mac can do all you want with flying colors, it comes down to what
exactly you want in a Mac. you said a laptop so it then comes down to if
you want an optical drive or not really.

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Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 12:15
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Switching to a mac


Hello all.
Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and
it's time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am
considering switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following:
1. Browse websites such as Facebook.
2. Manage my e-mail.
3. Listen to and manage music.
4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com.
5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small,
with hardly any formatting or other complex requirements.
I am looking into a laptop style mac.
6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary,
either via bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front.
I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with
no rush necessary.
Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since
1997. It kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod
Touch.
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Re: Switching to a mac

[chris hallsworth]

So David, can you read PDFs fine on the mac? If so what app do you use? 
I have heard of Preview, does this work well with VoiceOver? I suspect 
it does since it is built in, but no harm in asking is there.


On 14/01/2012 23:18, David Griffith wrote:

I am sure that the  Mac will provide a good experience for all the things
you mention.

I take the approach of using VM fusion with my Mac and I consider that I
therefore have the best of both worlds. If I need to study a table I switch
very quickly to Windows, Word and Jaws. If I need to read a PDF I use the
Mac.
I set up a boot camp partition but, if starting again from scratch, I would
not now bother as fusion is a far better solution , including the capacity
to install and set up Windows without sighted help.
Once you get used to it file management is far easier on the Mac. There are
differences but whenever I am in Windows I find myself wanting to use column
view .
Downloading files is very efficient and fast on the Mac in my experience but
again it is completely different from Windows and you will need to learn
different techniques if you want to monitor downloads.
The main problem with picking up the Mac is that there are lots of
information out there which is useful for visually impaired people but it
tends not to be centralised as much as for the commercial Windows screen
readers. However lists like this are invaluable as a learning assistant.
A big learning curve is ahead but I am sure you will enjoy it.

David Griffith

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Sent: 14 January 2012 17:15
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Switching to a mac

Hello all.
Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and it's
time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am considering
switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following:
1. Browse websites such as Facebook.
2. Manage my e-mail.
3. Listen to and manage music.
4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com.
5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small, with
hardly any formatting or other complex requirements.
I am looking into a laptop style mac.
6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary, either
via bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front.
I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with no
rush necessary.
Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since 1997.
It kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod Touch.
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Deleting multiple photos

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Here is how you delete multiple photos on the iPhone.
1. Open the photos app.
2. Double tap the camera role button.
3. Double tap the actions button.
4. Select one or more photos by double tapping on them.
5. Double tap delete.
6. Double tap delete photo.
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Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone

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Yes. In a text field rotor to edit, flick down to select or select all, 
double tap. A menu should appear with options like cut copy or paste if 
there is text on the clipboard already. If not just cut and copy. 
Alternatively you can flick down until you hear cut or copy then double 
tap to perform this action. Paste is also in the edit rotor providing 
there is text on the clipboard.


On 10/01/2012 16:45, Paul Hopewell wrote:

Hello,
Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on IOS 
5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste?
Many thanks.

Paul Hopewell

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Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone

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Don't think I could either, it sounds too complex for my involuntary 
hand movements.


On 10/01/2012 20:00, Sarah Alawami wrote:

Yeah I cannot do that jesture because of my wrist problems. I wish apple would 
have  made it so you can flick to select via the edit option then once you 
double tap that you can turn the rotor  and flick up and down to select the 
line, word, char and so forth. I did suggest that to them.
On Jan 10, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:


Hi there!
Ok when sitting on the phone number!
And if the rota is set to words!
place thumb and finger pressed together on the screen and do the pinch out 
stroke and that will select the phone number!
If the number has space's carrie on opening the pinch to select the next block 
of numbers!
If the rota is set on letters the pinch open will select number by number!
This will also work for words!
It should also select line by line if the rota is set to that!
But not sure!
Then of course when you've got the number/words selected use the copy and do 
with it as you will!
This pinch thing can be a little tricky you might change a rota setting as you 
open your thumb and finger if you put a little twist as you open them!
But keeping them straight will select the items in question!
hth Colin

On 10 Jan 2012, at 18:08, Geoff Waaler wrote:


Hi Paul,

To extract a phone number, let me set up an example.  Lets say I have a text 
message as follows:


For a good time call 867-5309 and ask for Jenny.


Perhaps someone can find a better method but there appears to be no way to
select the phone number exclusively while viewing a text -- IE when not in edit 
mode.  Instead I
used the roter to get to edit and flicked down to copy (the only available 
option) the entire message.


Next I can either go to email or create a note where the above number is to be pasted..  
Again I use the roter to land on edit, flick to paste and double click.


I now have the entire text quoted above, but all I want is the phone number, hence I move my 
insertion pointer to the F in For, but must pinch those five words away.  
As one experiments with pinching this will become a lot
easier.  You do a two fingers opening gesture I think of as a reverse pinch to 
select right of the insertion pointer and a real pinch (close two fingers) to 
unselect.  What is selected/unselected depends on the size of
the gesture and current roter setting.  If selecting characters, a half inch 
open pinch gesture will likely cause VO to say that the r was selected and I'll 
hear three clicks indicating that the f and o were also selected.  The
same gesture while the roter toggle is set to words would likely cause the
words for a good to be selected.  I would hear three clicks and VO announces: good 
selected.  So I would first rotate to words and use a large open pinch gesture to select: For a 
good time call.  If I accidentally over do
it and select the phone number I can use a closed pinch to unselect it.  If I only 
selected the word time I can do a tiny open pinch to select the
word call (all data to the left remains selected).  Upon selecting the first five words, for my purposes I could press delete to 
make them go away, however, if you wanted to cut or copy them for some reason, you could get them to your clipboard by toggling 
the roter to edit, flicking down to either cut or copy and double tapping.  Either via 
cut or pressing del, those five words are gone -- I now have text reading:


 867-5309 and ask for Jenny.


Now all I need to do is place the insertion pointer to the right of the phone number, 
rotate to words and use an open pinch gesture to select the unwanted four words as 
described above.  When VO says something like: Jenny selected, press del and 
only the phone number remains.


HTH.
Geoff


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To: mac-access
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:45 AM
Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone


Hello,
Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on IOS 
5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste?
Many thanks.

Paul Hopewell

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Re: Connecting a pc to Iphone for the internet

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That's weird, it should just work.

On 10/01/2012 22:01, Terry Cooper wrote:

Hi all

On behalf of a friend of mine.

He is trying to connect to the internet on his pc by using the broadband
capabilities of his iphone.

He has turned on personal hotspot on the iphone, turned on wireless also on
the iphone.

he has gone to the wireless settings on his pc, kersered to the iphone in
the list of available wireless options in range, clicked it, entered the
password, clicked enter, and after a few seconds, jaws announces that it is
connected.

However, when launching his web browser on the pc, he just gets the message
saying can't display the web page, bla bla bla.

What else is needed to do on the iphone to enable his pc to use the
broadband.

thanks as always.
Terry
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Re: Twitter App

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I use the official app.

On 09/01/2012 17:17, Kristeen Hughes wrote:

What are people using for Twitter?

Kristeen

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Re: zombies run! iphone game

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Same here sounds cool from the video.

On 08/01/2012 17:52, Orin wrote:

I'm gonna try it anyway regardless.
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On Jan 8, 2012, at 11:47 AM, william lomas wrote:


why doesn't voiceover work, what support does it need?
yet again we have to wait for support

On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:16 PM, James AUSTIN wrote:


What a cool idea. However, I've been in touch with the developers, and while 
they do intend to implement VoiceOver support, they will not have it ready by 
the time they launch. They said that they would keep me updated though, so when 
I know I'll pass along.

TC :)
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On 8 Jan 2012, at 10:55, william lomas wrote:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyFqZtKvya0


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Passcode lock

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I thought I would check out this feature on my iPhone. I love how you 
can erase all the data on the phone after 10 failed attempts, as well as 
how long it takes before the passcode is required. I also like the 
keypad style when you enter the passcode. Go to settings, general, 
passcode lock and have a look.

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Vokul

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I wonder if anyone has tried this Siri alternative yet. Here is the link 
on the Applevis website. 
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Lumin iPhone iPod iPad app. 
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Re: My Phone Desktop

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There is a PC app but it is totally inaccessible. It is best to use the 
web client.


On 05/01/2012 05:28, Glenn wrote:

Is there a version for the PC?
Glenn
- Original Message -
From: Sarah Alawamimarri...@gmail.com
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibilitymac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: My Phone Desktop


I just looked at the site. what they don't say is the iPhone app cost 4.99
whilst the mac app looks to be free.


Just thought I' let everyone know.
On Jan 2, 2012, at 12:32 PM, chris hallsworth wrote:


www.myphonedesktop.com.

On 02/01/2012 19:10, Courtney Curran wrote:

Hi,
Where do you get this desktop app from? Maybe I'm missing something, but
I don't think I saw a link to go get it.
Thanks,
Courtney
On 02/01/2012, at 2:05 in the Afternoon, Christopher Sims wrote:


I've got it now.  Thanks for that.  I don't like the way that the whole
registration works. I can't see how you log in. I'll try and play with
it later, as I'm about to head out to have breakfast and work before the
Melbourne Weather gets to warm.
Christopher  Sims E: cjs...@me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone
M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000
iMessage: cjs...@me.com

On 03/01/2012, at 5:56 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:


Oh! Not good? Have you tried hitting vo shift space on the thing?

On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Christopher Sims wrote:


Hi Sara. I've just attempted to download the OSX client, and don't
seem to be able too.  Clicking the link doesn't seem to do anything.
On 03/01/2012, at 5:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:


I might try it out as well.. I'm good at using my phone but I don't
always want to drag the keyboard out  when I'm at home lol!
On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote:


Am going to check this one out.  Hate having to type a long text on
i-phone.  Am bad enough using a regular keyboard let alone a small
part of an i-phone to type on.
On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:42 AM, chris hallsworth wrote:


My Phone Desktop is a very clever, awesome universal iOS app to
basically control your iOS device from your desktop or web browser.
You can:
1. Make calls and send SMS messages.
2. Transfer text by copying it to the iOS device's clipboard to be
pasted later.
3. Easily open long URLs in Safari on your iOS device.
4. Transfer images on your desktop to your iOS device. (note not
tried this with the web client yet).
I have posted the app over at www.applevis.com under the
productivity section. Please read this for a few accessibility
comments.
Now, here is the link to the app in the iTunes store.
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jproductivity-llc/id352226779?mt=8
Enjoy!
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Re: My Phone Desktop

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Lol I am not sure either and yes you do have to input the number manually.

On 05/01/2012 18:56, Sarah Alawami wrote:

Hmm interesting. actually g you have to put in the number manually as the web 
does not have access to your contacts Not sure if the desktop clients do as I 
can't use it lol!

Take care all.
On Jan 5, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Esther wrote:


Hi Sarah,

Thanks for the additional information.  It sounds as though you get an 
additional command sequence to initiate calls and text messages through the web 
interface of My Phone Desktop.  With Type2Phone you can type in the content of 
text messages, and cut and paste content from your Mac clipboard to your iOS 
device, but there's no additional controls to initiate phone calls or send the 
text messages -- it's basically for typing.  With the other Mac desktop app 
that Ed mentioned in his earlier post, iKeyboard, you can use your Mac keyboard 
like a paired Bluetooth keyboard if you turn VoiceOver off on your Mac while 
you type. That means you can use the regular Bluetooth shortcuts and command 
sequences that you'd use with an Apple Wireless Keyboard, for example.  In 
addition, there are a few F-keys that get special functions --  like a Home key 
and a Spotlight search key similar to the iPad Keyboard Dock with dedicated 
keys in the F-key row, since you're not going to use your k

ey

  bo

ard to control things like iOS brightness with the low-number F-keys.  I 
suspect that if you use a full keyboard with iKeyboard, you also get use of the 
numpad keys for numeric data entry.  The support for additional language 
keyboards is better with iKeyboard -- Greek, Russian, and more non-European 
languages that are not yet fully supported with Type2Phone.  And you can't do 
the copy and paste transfer of text from your other Mac apps with iKeyboard, 
the way you can with Type2Phone.


HTH.  Cheers,

Esther


On Jan 5, 2012, at 12:37, Sarah Alawami wrote:


You can also call contacts and text as well. I don't think you can do that with 
the type to phone app unless I am mistaken. You can basically control you phone 
and send photos to the phone via the my phone desktop app.

First when  you run the my phone desktop mac client you get asked to install 
java run time. this was a surprise to me.

After installing the java you try and open the app and it stays busy the whole 
time. I tried reopining the app as well. Now mind you I don't have the mobile 
app installed so that might be the culprit.

Take care all.
On Jan 5, 2012, at 9:11 AM, Esther wrote:


Hi,

I'm curious to learn what additional features you have using My Phone Desktop 
over Type2Phone -- apart from the fact that Type2Phone is a Mac only 
application that you can buy from the Mac App Store for the same price ($4.99). 
 When I linked to Dr. Drang's blog article about setting up Type2Phone in my 
original list post, one of the comments on his article was from someone who 
used My Phone Desktop for the same purposes (typing text for mail, messages, 
and anywhere you would normally have to type or use copy and paste to insert 
text, with the option of copying from your Mac's clipboard -- URLs, selected 
text, etc.).  The response was that since Type2Phone worked through a Bluetooth 
connection, you could continue to use your Mac keyboard to type on your iOS 
device, and copy and paste information from your Mac, even without having an 
active internet connection for your computer.  My understanding is that by 
having to use a web interface with My Phone Desktop, you must hav

e

  y

our computer on an active internet connection to use it with your iPhone, iPod 
Touch, or iPad.  Is this correct?  I'm just trying to understand the pros and 
cons of these apps, and the various options we have for using our computer 
keyboards for the iOS devices.  If anyone has tried both Type2Phone and My 
Phone Desktop it would be great to hear a comparison of features, and what is 
best about each.


Certainly, if it's easier to make calls through the web browser interface with 
MyPhoneDesktop that would be interesting to know.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther



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Re: Lumin iPhone iPod iPad app

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It is a light up magnifying glass effectively.

On 05/01/2012 17:37, Sarah Alawami wrote:

Agreed. what is it. I don't havd  the time to click on the link.

Take care.
On Jan 5, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Mary Otten wrote:


A one liner about what this does would be nice, rather than expecting us all to 
go look at a link with no explanation. Thanks.

Mary

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Re: My Phone Desktop

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I don't know Type 2 Phone but My Phone Desktop allows you to make calls, 
send text messages, open URLs in Safari, upload photos to your device, 
as well as copy text to the iOS clipboard.


On 05/01/2012 17:11, Esther wrote:

Hi,

I'm curious to learn what additional features you have using My Phone Desktop 
over Type2Phone -- apart from the fact that Type2Phone is a Mac only 
application that you can buy from the Mac App Store for the same price ($4.99). 
 When I linked to Dr. Drang's blog article about setting up Type2Phone in my 
original list post, one of the comments on his article was from someone who 
used My Phone Desktop for the same purposes (typing text for mail, messages, 
and anywhere you would normally have to type or use copy and paste to insert 
text, with the option of copying from your Mac's clipboard -- URLs, selected 
text, etc.).  The response was that since Type2Phone worked through a Bluetooth 
connection, you could continue to use your Mac keyboard to type on your iOS 
device, and copy and paste information from your Mac, even without having an 
active internet connection for your computer.  My understanding is that by 
having to use a web interface with My Phone Desktop, you must have y

our computer on an active internet connection to use it with your iPhone, iPod 
Touch, or iPad.  Is this correct?  I'm just trying to understand the pros and 
cons of these apps, and the various options we have for using our computer 
keyboards for the iOS devices.  If anyone has tried both Type2Phone and My 
Phone Desktop it would be great to hear a comparison of features, and what is 
best about each.


Certainly, if it's easier to make calls through the web browser interface with 
MyPhoneDesktop that would be interesting to know.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Jan 5, 2012, at 11:52, chris hallsworth wrote:


Thanks, they don't but I checked the iTunes app store and that's where I found 
and thus paid for it. It was £2.99 here in the UK.

On 05/01/2012 05:26, Sarah Alawami wrote:

I just looked at the site. what they don't say is the iPhone app cost 4.99 
whilst the mac app looks to be free.


Just thought I' let everyone know.
On Jan 2, 2012, at 12:32 PM, chris hallsworth wrote:


www.myphonedesktop.com.

On 02/01/2012 19:10, Courtney Curran wrote:

Hi,
Where do you get this desktop app from? Maybe I'm missing something, but I 
don't think I saw a link to go get it.
Thanks,
Courtney
On 02/01/2012, at 2:05 in the Afternoon, Christopher Sims wrote:


I've got it now.  Thanks for that.  I don't like the way that the whole 
registration works. I can't see how you log in. I'll try and play with it 
later, as I'm about to head out to have breakfast and work before the Melbourne 
Weather gets to warm.
Christopher  Sims E: cjs...@me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 
skype: cjsims3000
iMessage: cjs...@me.com

On 03/01/2012, at 5:56 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:


Oh! Not good? Have you tried hitting vo shift space on the thing?

On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Christopher Sims wrote:


Hi Sara. I've just attempted to download the OSX client, and don't seem to be 
able too.  Clicking the link doesn't seem to do anything.
On 03/01/2012, at 5:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:


I might try it out as well.. I'm good at using my phone but I don't always want 
to drag the keyboard out  when I'm at home lol!
On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote:


Am going to check this one out.  Hate having to type a long text on i-phone.  
Am bad enough using a regular keyboard let alone a small part of an i-phone to 
type on.
On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:42 AM, chris hallsworth wrote:


My Phone Desktop is a very clever, awesome universal iOS app to basically 
control your iOS device from your desktop or web browser. You can:
1. Make calls and send SMS messages.
2. Transfer text by copying it to the iOS device's clipboard to be pasted later.
3. Easily open long URLs in Safari on your iOS device.
4. Transfer images on your desktop to your iOS device. (note not tried this 
with the web client yet).
I have posted the app over at www.applevis.com under the productivity section. 
Please read this for a few accessibility comments.
Now, here is the link to the app in the iTunes store. 
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jproductivity-llc/id352226779?mt=8
Enjoy!


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Has alert, what does this mean?

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Hello all.
Please can I ask, on an iPhone 4 running iOS 5.0.1, what the heck does 
the words, has alert mean? Asking as I had it in the messages app. It 
has now disappeared. Thanks!

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Re: voiceover on IPhone 3gs 8 gig

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Are you all not getting this confused with the iPod 3G 8 GB? I ran into 
the same confusion myself.


On 04/01/2012 00:30, Mike Welty wrote:

Hey all,
I remember once hearing that IPhone 3gs 8 gig didn't support voiceover, well I 
can say that's not true at all. My gf just got her's today running IOS 5 and 
voiceover works like a charm. Also it's very very quick unlike what others have 
said.
Wasn't sure if anyone else realized this or not so thought I'd pass it along.
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Apps to enter text to iOS device using PC keyboard

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Is there a free or paid app that would allow one to enter text to an iOS 
device from a PC keyboard?

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My Phone Desktop

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My Phone Desktop is a very clever, awesome universal iOS app to 
basically control your iOS device from your desktop or web browser. You can:

1. Make calls and send SMS messages.
2. Transfer text by copying it to the iOS device's clipboard to be 
pasted later.

3. Easily open long URLs in Safari on your iOS device.
4. Transfer images on your desktop to your iOS device. (note not tried 
this with the web client yet).
I have posted the app over at www.applevis.com under the productivity 
section. Please read this for a few accessibility comments.
Now, here is the link to the app in the iTunes store. 
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jproductivity-llc/id352226779?mt=8

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Re: My Phone Desktop

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All,
You are best to use the web client as it is more accessible than the mac 
desktop client. Go to https://myphonedesktop.com and log in with your 
username and password that you set up on the iOS app.


On 02/01/2012 18:49, Christopher Sims wrote:

Hi Sara. I've just attempted to download the OSX client, and don't seem to be 
able too.  Clicking the link doesn't seem to do anything.
On 03/01/2012, at 5:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:


I might try it out as well.. I'm good at using my phone but I don't always want 
to drag the keyboard out  when I'm at home lol!
On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote:


Am going to check this one out.  Hate having to type a long text on i-phone.  
Am bad enough using a regular keyboard let alone a small part of an i-phone to 
type on.
On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:42 AM, chris hallsworth wrote:


My Phone Desktop is a very clever, awesome universal iOS app to basically 
control your iOS device from your desktop or web browser. You can:
1. Make calls and send SMS messages.
2. Transfer text by copying it to the iOS device's clipboard to be pasted later.
3. Easily open long URLs in Safari on your iOS device.
4. Transfer images on your desktop to your iOS device. (note not tried this 
with the web client yet).
I have posted the app over at www.applevis.com under the productivity section. 
Please read this for a few accessibility comments.
Now, here is the link to the app in the iTunes store. 
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jproductivity-llc/id352226779?mt=8
Enjoy!
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