Re: [Mac-access]: Google Chrome

[Bryan Jones]

Regarding the problems using VO+Arrow keys to move through web pages in Chrome 
under Yosemite, we’ve had some discussion about this on Google’s general 
accessibility mailing list, and Victor at Google has opened the following 
ticket:
"Issue 455118 - chromium - [A11Y] VoiceOver gets stuck on web pages while 
navigating with VoiceOver cursor keys."

HTH,
Bryan

On Jan 30, 2015, at 12:09 AM, Lovette Yewchan  wrote:
> I used to be able to tab and/or vo left or right arrow to go through the page 
> and read more than the links.
> I could interact with areas but now I get very little info at a time.
> Maybe a line or two at the most.

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Re: [Mac-access]: Google Chrome

[Travis Siegel]

I know folks don't agree, but I don't use anything but groups mode,  It's so 
much easier, considerably fewer keystrokes to accomplish things, and I get to 
read large blocks of text all at once, something not possible when using dom 
mode, and since I read a lot of ebooks in html, that's extremely important for 
me.
I can't stand dom mode, it takes me 3 times as long to do anything useful, 
because I have to work so hard to actually find the piece of the web page I 
need.
Of course, everyone should use what's comfortable for them, and unfortunately, 
I can't test chrome on this machine, but if it works in groups mode, I'd likely 
report it's working. *grin*

But, anyhow, typically when something like this happens, apple and the other 
company need to go back and forth a few times before things get ironed out.  I 
expect it will get solved eventually though.

On Jan 31, 2015, at 12:19 PM, David Griffith wrote:

> Webkit as I understand it unlrunderlies Safari code and not Chrome, though I 
> would be happy to be corrected.
> I don't quite understand why people are not seeing the obvious problem with 
> the latest Google Chrome as it is pretty clear it has been badly broken since 
> the last update,  and is unusable with Voiceover now using default dom view.  
> .
> Basically for example if you go to www.bbc.co.uk/news you will now find it is 
> impossible to read any news content with Voiceover using dom view. You can 
> only read element like headings etc. by tedious pressing of the tab button 
> with no ability to read any actual news content.
> 
> If you turn Chrome Vox on then the news content does become readable with 
> that alternative screen reader but the previous accessibility which used to 
> be possible with Voiceover has been broken.
> 
> There is a sort of workaround if you are comfortable switching to Groups 
> rather than dom mode of web navigation. Mysteriously then some text  of web 
> pages does become accessible to Voiceover but groups mode is not the most 
> intuitive of interfaces.
> 
> Hopefully either accessibil...@apple.com and/or accessibil...@google.com can 
> sort something out which can help these difficulties.
> 
> It would be nice if for once Google was proactive in its accessibility 
> testing rather than reacting to the problems which so called "updates" create.
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> On 31/01/2015 16:17, Travis Siegel wrote:
>> Oh, this is normal, it's likely a result of changes in webkit (the browser 
>> code most osx browsers use to render their content).
>> When I was using leopard, there were several web pages that rendered just 
>> fine.  Upon upgrading to snowleopard, many of these sites got modified to 
>> use tables instead.  This is not a good thing in my opinion, because it 
>> takes more interacting, less control over what gets read, and more 
>> navigational commands to get through the pages.  Needless to say, I wasn't 
>> happy.
>> Unfortunately, my imac isn't new enough to upgrade any further, so I'm stuck 
>> until I can obtain a newer mac.  Perhaps your issues are similarly related.
>> 
>> On Jan 29, 2015, at 11:46 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
>> 
>>> Can you provide some more details so we can try to reproduce what you are 
>>> finding? For example, can you provide links to some websites where you are 
>>> experiencing these “collapsed things,” and maybe describe the differences 
>>> between how you used to be able to read the pages more easily and how it is 
>>> different now?
>>> 
>>> On Jan 29, 2015, at 11:04 PM, Lovette Yewchan  wrote:
>>>> One thing I am noticing is that there are a lot of collapsed things and I 
>>>> cannot read the pages as easily as before.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Google Chrome

[Sean Murphy]

Not yet, I have to fix my VMWare before I can upgrade.
On 1 Feb 2015, at 6:32 pm, christopher hallsworth  
wrote:

> Safari now allows you to navigate web pages using standalone arrow keys. Just 
> turn QuickNav off and check it out.
>> On 1 Feb 2015, at 02:45, Sean Murphy  wrote:
>> 
>> This is why I don’t like the VO approach to web pages. All other approaches 
>> treat the page as a document. Thus you just need to use your arrow keys to 
>> navigate and not interact with frames, tables, etc.
>> 
>> Simple pages in safari work fine. It becomes real difficult when you have a 
>> complex pages.
>> 
>> Sean 
>> On 1 Feb 2015, at 3:17 am, Travis Siegel  wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh, this is normal, it's likely a result of changes in webkit (the browser 
>>> code most osx browsers use to render their content).
>>> When I was using leopard, there were several web pages that rendered just 
>>> fine.  Upon upgrading to snowleopard, many of these sites got modified to 
>>> use tables instead.  This is not a good thing in my opinion, because it 
>>> takes more interacting, less control over what gets read, and more 
>>> navigational commands to get through the pages.  Needless to say, I wasn't 
>>> happy.
>>> Unfortunately, my imac isn't new enough to upgrade any further, so I'm 
>>> stuck until I can obtain a newer mac.  Perhaps your issues are similarly 
>>> related.
>>> 
>>> On Jan 29, 2015, at 11:46 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
>>> 
 Can you provide some more details so we can try to reproduce what you are 
 finding? For example, can you provide links to some websites where you are 
 experiencing these “collapsed things,” and maybe describe the differences 
 between how you used to be able to read the pages more easily and how it 
 is different now?
 
 On Jan 29, 2015, at 11:04 PM, Lovette Yewchan  wrote:
> One thing I am noticing is that there are a lot of collapsed things and I 
> cannot read the pages as easily as before.
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Google Chrome

[christopher hallsworth]

Safari now allows you to navigate web pages using standalone arrow keys. Just 
turn QuickNav off and check it out.
> On 1 Feb 2015, at 02:45, Sean Murphy  wrote:
> 
> This is why I don’t like the VO approach to web pages. All other approaches 
> treat the page as a document. Thus you just need to use your arrow keys to 
> navigate and not interact with frames, tables, etc.
> 
> Simple pages in safari work fine. It becomes real difficult when you have a 
> complex pages.
> 
> Sean 
> On 1 Feb 2015, at 3:17 am, Travis Siegel  wrote:
> 
>> Oh, this is normal, it's likely a result of changes in webkit (the browser 
>> code most osx browsers use to render their content).
>> When I was using leopard, there were several web pages that rendered just 
>> fine.  Upon upgrading to snowleopard, many of these sites got modified to 
>> use tables instead.  This is not a good thing in my opinion, because it 
>> takes more interacting, less control over what gets read, and more 
>> navigational commands to get through the pages.  Needless to say, I wasn't 
>> happy.
>> Unfortunately, my imac isn't new enough to upgrade any further, so I'm stuck 
>> until I can obtain a newer mac.  Perhaps your issues are similarly related.
>> 
>> On Jan 29, 2015, at 11:46 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
>> 
>>> Can you provide some more details so we can try to reproduce what you are 
>>> finding? For example, can you provide links to some websites where you are 
>>> experiencing these “collapsed things,” and maybe describe the differences 
>>> between how you used to be able to read the pages more easily and how it is 
>>> different now?
>>> 
>>> On Jan 29, 2015, at 11:04 PM, Lovette Yewchan  wrote:
 One thing I am noticing is that there are a lot of collapsed things and I 
 cannot read the pages as easily as before.
>>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Google Chrome

[Scott Erichsen]

Are you running Yosemite? You can now use your arrows on webpages.


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Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Google Chrome

This is why I don't like the VO approach to web pages. All other approaches
treat the page as a document. Thus you just need to use your arrow keys to
navigate and not interact with frames, tables, etc.

Simple pages in safari work fine. It becomes real difficult when you have a
complex pages.

Sean 
On 1 Feb 2015, at 3:17 am, Travis Siegel  wrote:

> Oh, this is normal, it's likely a result of changes in webkit (the browser
code most osx browsers use to render their content).
> When I was using leopard, there were several web pages that rendered just
fine.  Upon upgrading to snowleopard, many of these sites got modified to
use tables instead.  This is not a good thing in my opinion, because it
takes more interacting, less control over what gets read, and more
navigational commands to get through the pages.  Needless to say, I wasn't
happy.
> Unfortunately, my imac isn't new enough to upgrade any further, so I'm
stuck until I can obtain a newer mac.  Perhaps your issues are similarly
related.
> 
> On Jan 29, 2015, at 11:46 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
> 
>> Can you provide some more details so we can try to reproduce what you are
finding? For example, can you provide links to some websites where you are
experiencing these "collapsed things," and maybe describe the differences
between how you used to be able to read the pages more easily and how it is
different now?
>> 
>> On Jan 29, 2015, at 11:04 PM, Lovette Yewchan  wrote:
>>> One thing I am noticing is that there are a lot of collapsed things and
I cannot read the pages as easily as before.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Google Chrome

[Sean Murphy]

This is why I don’t like the VO approach to web pages. All other approaches 
treat the page as a document. Thus you just need to use your arrow keys to 
navigate and not interact with frames, tables, etc.

Simple pages in safari work fine. It becomes real difficult when you have a 
complex pages.

Sean 
On 1 Feb 2015, at 3:17 am, Travis Siegel  wrote:

> Oh, this is normal, it's likely a result of changes in webkit (the browser 
> code most osx browsers use to render their content).
> When I was using leopard, there were several web pages that rendered just 
> fine.  Upon upgrading to snowleopard, many of these sites got modified to use 
> tables instead.  This is not a good thing in my opinion, because it takes 
> more interacting, less control over what gets read, and more navigational 
> commands to get through the pages.  Needless to say, I wasn't happy.
> Unfortunately, my imac isn't new enough to upgrade any further, so I'm stuck 
> until I can obtain a newer mac.  Perhaps your issues are similarly related.
> 
> On Jan 29, 2015, at 11:46 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
> 
>> Can you provide some more details so we can try to reproduce what you are 
>> finding? For example, can you provide links to some websites where you are 
>> experiencing these “collapsed things,” and maybe describe the differences 
>> between how you used to be able to read the pages more easily and how it is 
>> different now?
>> 
>> On Jan 29, 2015, at 11:04 PM, Lovette Yewchan  wrote:
>>> One thing I am noticing is that there are a lot of collapsed things and I 
>>> cannot read the pages as easily as before.
>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Google Chrome

[gs]

Yes, I am seeing the same behavior under Yosemite with most sites.  This is 
especially frustrating because I wanted to use Chrome with Spotify since it 
doesn't seem to work with Safari.

On Jan 31, 2015, at 2:17 PM, Bryan Jones  wrote:

Thank you for providing an example website, David. My testing of the page you 
linked mirrored what I’ve been seeing on most other websites: The latest 
versions of both Chrome Stable and Chrome Canary work fine with VoiceOver under 
Mavericks 10.9.5, but those same versions of CHrome have a number of VoiceOver 
issues under all versions of Yosemite. This is one of several reasons why I 
have not yet upgraded my production Macs to Yosemite.

Systems tested:
2013 Macbook Air 11
2008 Macbook
OS X 10.9.5
OS X 10.10.2
Chrome Stable version 40.0.2214.94
Chrome Canary version 42.0.2292.0

-Bryan

On Jan 31, 2015, at 12:19 PM, David Griffith  wrote:
> I don't quite understand why people are not seeing the obvious problem with 
> the latest Google Chrome as it is pretty clear it has been badly broken since 
> the last update,  and is unusable with Voiceover now using default dom view.  
> .
> Basically for example if you go to www.bbc.co.uk/news you will now find it is 
> impossible to read any news content with Voiceover using dom view. You can 
> only read element like headings etc. by tedious pressing of the tab button 
> with no ability to read any actual news content.
> 
> If you turn Chrome Vox on then the news content does become readable with 
> that alternative screen reader but the previous accessibility which used to 
> be possible with Voiceover has been broken.

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Re: [Mac-access]: Google Chrome

[Bryan Jones]

Thank you for providing an example website, David. My testing of the page you 
linked mirrored what I’ve been seeing on most other websites: The latest 
versions of both Chrome Stable and Chrome Canary work fine with VoiceOver under 
Mavericks 10.9.5, but those same versions of CHrome have a number of VoiceOver 
issues under all versions of Yosemite. This is one of several reasons why I 
have not yet upgraded my production Macs to Yosemite.

Systems tested:
2013 Macbook Air 11
2008 Macbook
OS X 10.9.5
OS X 10.10.2
Chrome Stable version 40.0.2214.94
Chrome Canary version 42.0.2292.0

-Bryan

On Jan 31, 2015, at 12:19 PM, David Griffith  wrote:
> I don't quite understand why people are not seeing the obvious problem with 
> the latest Google Chrome as it is pretty clear it has been badly broken since 
> the last update,  and is unusable with Voiceover now using default dom view.  
> .
> Basically for example if you go to www.bbc.co.uk/news you will now find it is 
> impossible to read any news content with Voiceover using dom view. You can 
> only read element like headings etc. by tedious pressing of the tab button 
> with no ability to read any actual news content.
> 
> If you turn Chrome Vox on then the news content does become readable with 
> that alternative screen reader but the previous accessibility which used to 
> be possible with Voiceover has been broken.

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Re: [Mac-access]: Google Chrome

[Chris Moore]

It uses chromium which is a fork of WebKit 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 31 Jan 2015, at 17:19, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
> Webkit as I understand it unlrunderlies Safari code and not Chrome, though I 
> would be happy to be corrected.
> I don't quite understand why people are not seeing the obvious problem with 
> the latest Google Chrome as it is pretty clear it has been badly broken since 
> the last update,  and is unusable with Voiceover now using default dom view.  
> .
> Basically for example if you go to www.bbc.co.uk/news you will now find it is 
> impossible to read any news content with Voiceover using dom view. You can 
> only read element like headings etc. by tedious pressing of the tab button 
> with no ability to read any actual news content.
> 
> If you turn Chrome Vox on then the news content does become readable with 
> that alternative screen reader but the previous accessibility which used to 
> be possible with Voiceover has been broken.
> 
> There is a sort of workaround if you are comfortable switching to Groups 
> rather than dom mode of web navigation. Mysteriously then some text  of web 
> pages does become accessible to Voiceover but groups mode is not the most 
> intuitive of interfaces.
> 
> Hopefully either accessibil...@apple.com and/or accessibil...@google.com can 
> sort something out which can help these difficulties.
> 
> It would be nice if for once Google was proactive in its accessibility 
> testing rather than reacting to the problems which so called "updates" create.
> 
> David Griffith
> 
>> On 31/01/2015 16:17, Travis Siegel wrote:
>> Oh, this is normal, it's likely a result of changes in webkit (the browser 
>> code most osx browsers use to render their content).
>> When I was using leopard, there were several web pages that rendered just 
>> fine.  Upon upgrading to snowleopard, many of these sites got modified to 
>> use tables instead.  This is not a good thing in my opinion, because it 
>> takes more interacting, less control over what gets read, and more 
>> navigational commands to get through the pages.  Needless to say, I wasn't 
>> happy.
>> Unfortunately, my imac isn't new enough to upgrade any further, so I'm stuck 
>> until I can obtain a newer mac.  Perhaps your issues are similarly related.
>> 
>>> On Jan 29, 2015, at 11:46 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can you provide some more details so we can try to reproduce what you are 
>>> finding? For example, can you provide links to some websites where you are 
>>> experiencing these “collapsed things,” and maybe describe the differences 
>>> between how you used to be able to read the pages more easily and how it is 
>>> different now?
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 29, 2015, at 11:04 PM, Lovette Yewchan  wrote:
>>>> One thing I am noticing is that there are a lot of collapsed things and I 
>>>> cannot read the pages as easily as before.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Google Chrome

[David Griffith]

Webkit as I understand it unlrunderlies Safari code and not Chrome, 
though I would be happy to be corrected.
I don't quite understand why people are not seeing the obvious problem 
with the latest Google Chrome as it is pretty clear it has been badly 
broken since the last update,  and is unusable with Voiceover now using 
default dom view.  .
Basically for example if you go to www.bbc.co.uk/news you will now find 
it is impossible to read any news content with Voiceover using dom view. 
You can only read element like headings etc. by tedious pressing of the 
tab button with no ability to read any actual news content.


If you turn Chrome Vox on then the news content does become readable 
with that alternative screen reader but the previous accessibility which 
used to be possible with Voiceover has been broken.


There is a sort of workaround if you are comfortable switching to Groups 
rather than dom mode of web navigation. Mysteriously then some text  of 
web pages does become accessible to Voiceover but groups mode is not the 
most intuitive of interfaces.


Hopefully either accessibil...@apple.com and/or accessibil...@google.com 
can sort something out which can help these difficulties.


It would be nice if for once Google was proactive in its accessibility 
testing rather than reacting to the problems which so called "updates" 
create.


David Griffith

On 31/01/2015 16:17, Travis Siegel wrote:

Oh, this is normal, it's likely a result of changes in webkit (the browser code 
most osx browsers use to render their content).
When I was using leopard, there were several web pages that rendered just fine. 
 Upon upgrading to snowleopard, many of these sites got modified to use tables 
instead.  This is not a good thing in my opinion, because it takes more 
interacting, less control over what gets read, and more navigational commands 
to get through the pages.  Needless to say, I wasn't happy.
Unfortunately, my imac isn't new enough to upgrade any further, so I'm stuck 
until I can obtain a newer mac.  Perhaps your issues are similarly related.

On Jan 29, 2015, at 11:46 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:


Can you provide some more details so we can try to reproduce what you are 
finding? For example, can you provide links to some websites where you are 
experiencing these “collapsed things,” and maybe describe the differences 
between how you used to be able to read the pages more easily and how it is 
different now?

On Jan 29, 2015, at 11:04 PM, Lovette Yewchan  wrote:

One thing I am noticing is that there are a lot of collapsed things and I 
cannot read the pages as easily as before.

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Re: [Mac-access]: Google Chrome

[Travis Siegel]

Oh, this is normal, it's likely a result of changes in webkit (the browser code 
most osx browsers use to render their content).
When I was using leopard, there were several web pages that rendered just fine. 
 Upon upgrading to snowleopard, many of these sites got modified to use tables 
instead.  This is not a good thing in my opinion, because it takes more 
interacting, less control over what gets read, and more navigational commands 
to get through the pages.  Needless to say, I wasn't happy.
Unfortunately, my imac isn't new enough to upgrade any further, so I'm stuck 
until I can obtain a newer mac.  Perhaps your issues are similarly related.

On Jan 29, 2015, at 11:46 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:

> Can you provide some more details so we can try to reproduce what you are 
> finding? For example, can you provide links to some websites where you are 
> experiencing these “collapsed things,” and maybe describe the differences 
> between how you used to be able to read the pages more easily and how it is 
> different now?
> 
> On Jan 29, 2015, at 11:04 PM, Lovette Yewchan  wrote:
>> One thing I am noticing is that there are a lot of collapsed things and I 
>> cannot read the pages as easily as before.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Google Chrome

[Chris Moore]

It's a known ARIA bug in the latest build. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 30 Jan 2015, at 05:09, Lovette Yewchan  wrote:
> 
> It is on all web pages.
> I used to be able to tab and/or vo left or right arrow to go through the page 
> and read more than the links.
> I could interact with areas but now I get very little info at a time.
> Maybe a line or two at the most.On Jan 29, 2015, at 8:46 PM, Bryan Jones 
>  wrote:
>> 
>> Can you provide some more details so we can try to reproduce what you are 
>> finding? For example, can you provide links to some websites where you are 
>> experiencing these “collapsed things,” and maybe describe the differences 
>> between how you used to be able to read the pages more easily and how it is 
>> different now?
>> 
>>> On Jan 29, 2015, at 11:04 PM, Lovette Yewchan  wrote:
>>> One thing I am noticing is that there are a lot of collapsed things and I 
>>> cannot read the pages as easily as before.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Google Chrome

[Lovette Yewchan]

It is on all web pages.
I used to be able to tab and/or vo left or right arrow to go through the page 
and read more than the links.
I could interact with areas but now I get very little info at a time.
Maybe a line or two at the most.On Jan 29, 2015, at 8:46 PM, Bryan Jones 
 wrote:
> 
> Can you provide some more details so we can try to reproduce what you are 
> finding? For example, can you provide links to some websites where you are 
> experiencing these “collapsed things,” and maybe describe the differences 
> between how you used to be able to read the pages more easily and how it is 
> different now?
> 
> On Jan 29, 2015, at 11:04 PM, Lovette Yewchan  wrote:
>> One thing I am noticing is that there are a lot of collapsed things and I 
>> cannot read the pages as easily as before.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Google Chrome

[Bryan Jones]

Can you provide some more details so we can try to reproduce what you are 
finding? For example, can you provide links to some websites where you are 
experiencing these “collapsed things,” and maybe describe the differences 
between how you used to be able to read the pages more easily and how it is 
different now?

On Jan 29, 2015, at 11:04 PM, Lovette Yewchan  wrote:
> One thing I am noticing is that there are a lot of collapsed things and I 
> cannot read the pages as easily as before.

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Re: [Mac-access]: Google Chrome

[Lovette Yewchan]

One thing I am noticing is that there are a lot of collapsed things and I 
cannot read the pages as easily as before.
Lovette

> On Jan 29, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Bryan Jones  wrote:
> 
> Is there anything in particular you are wondering about? In my limited 
> testing of the latest version of Chrome under Yosemite 10.10.2, I’ve been 
> able to use the standard VO web navigation commands to move through pages 
> just as I would when navigating in Safari. There are, however, at least two 
> notable bugs as listed in Google ticket 439695. The first bug is that the web 
> rotor as accessed with the VO+U keystroke is completely non-functional. The 
> second issue is that the standard VO+Shift+Down Arrow keystroke fails to 
> interact with the HTML content. The simple workaround for this one is to use 
> the tab key to move VO focus into the web content. Note that neither of these 
> bugs exists when running the same version of Chrome under Mavericks.
> 
> HTH,
> Bryan
> 
> On Jan 29, 2015, at 2:23 PM, Lovette Yewchan  wrote:
>> Does anyone have any tips using google chrome with usenity and VO?
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Re: [Mac-access]: Google Chrome

[Bryan Jones]

Is there anything in particular you are wondering about? In my limited testing 
of the latest version of Chrome under Yosemite 10.10.2, I’ve been able to use 
the standard VO web navigation commands to move through pages just as I would 
when navigating in Safari. There are, however, at least two notable bugs as 
listed in Google ticket 439695. The first bug is that the web rotor as accessed 
with the VO+U keystroke is completely non-functional. The second issue is that 
the standard VO+Shift+Down Arrow keystroke fails to interact with the HTML 
content. The simple workaround for this one is to use the tab key to move VO 
focus into the web content. Note that neither of these bugs exists when running 
the same version of Chrome under Mavericks.

HTH,
Bryan

On Jan 29, 2015, at 2:23 PM, Lovette Yewchan  wrote:
> Does anyone have any tips using google chrome with usenity and VO?

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[Mac-access]: Google Chrome

[Lovette Yewchan]

Hi there.
Does anyone have any tips using google chrome with usenity and VO?
Thanks.

Lovette

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Re: Google Chrome on the Mac

[Sarah k Alawami]

I'll say this much, chrome has come a long way since 2011 when it first came 
out for the mac. See my youtube vid google chrome has lost its shine. for more 
info. It is now very much accessible and google are working hard to make it 
even better. I use it on troublesome sites that for some reason don't work at 
all with safari, or work better with chrome.

take care.
On Mar 19, 2014, at 9:12 AM, isaac  wrote:

> My person preference until I see any problems happen is safari. I tried 
> google crome on the mac and didn’t like it all.
> On Mar 19, 2014, at 11:01 AM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:
> 
>> I actually like both, and don’t have a personal preference at this point. 
>> But then again maybe I will prefer one over the other  as time goes by. I’m 
>> going to install ChromeVox on my Mac using the instructions provided 
>> earlier, and see what I think of it. But I can tell you for certain that my 
>> sighted life-skills tutor prefers Chrome over Safari any day. I guess one 
>> thing that I find a bit interesting is that some links work just by hitting 
>> Enter, while for others Enter doesn’t work and I have to hit VO Spacebar. 
>> One example of this is when checking my work email and going through the 
>> Spam folder, Enter does not work for opening that folder but it does work 
>> otherwise. My work email account is a subdomain of Gmail. But perhaps that 
>> is just a VoiceOver thing, one which I haven’t quite gotten used to. This 
>> applies to both browsers.
>> JAKE JOEHL
>> jajo...@att.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
>> 
>>> Do you folks like Chrome better than Safari for the mac? I am having some 
>>> trouble with Safari on pages I use a lot, and am wondering about trying 
>>> Chrome.
>>> 
>>> Kristeen
>>> 
>>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Juaanita Marttin  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I just installed Google Chrome on the MacBook Air.  Are there any tips and 
>>>> tricks I should know about using it?  Any settings that would make it more 
>>>> accessible?  I’ve already made it the default browser.
>>>> Thanks.
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Re: Google Chrome on the Mac

[JAKE JOEHL]

I actually like both, and don’t have a personal preference at this point. But 
then again maybe I will prefer one over the other  as time goes by. I’m going 
to install ChromeVox on my Mac using the instructions provided earlier, and see 
what I think of it. But I can tell you for certain that my sighted life-skills 
tutor prefers Chrome over Safari any day. I guess one thing that I find a bit 
interesting is that some links work just by hitting Enter, while for others 
Enter doesn’t work and I have to hit VO Spacebar. One example of this is when 
checking my work email and going through the Spam folder, Enter does not work 
for opening that folder but it does work otherwise. My work email account is a 
subdomain of Gmail. But perhaps that is just a VoiceOver thing, one which I 
haven’t quite gotten used to. This applies to both browsers.
JAKE JOEHL
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> Do you folks like Chrome better than Safari for the mac? I am having some 
> trouble with Safari on pages I use a lot, and am wondering about trying 
> Chrome.
> 
> Kristeen
> 
> On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Juaanita Marttin  
> wrote:
> 
>> I just installed Google Chrome on the MacBook Air.  Are there any tips and 
>> tricks I should know about using it?  Any settings that would make it more 
>> accessible?  I’ve already made it the default browser.
>> Thanks.
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Re: Google Chrome on the Mac

[isaac]

My person preference until I see any problems happen is safari. I tried google 
crome on the mac and didn’t like it all.
On Mar 19, 2014, at 11:01 AM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:

> I actually like both, and don’t have a personal preference at this point. But 
> then again maybe I will prefer one over the other  as time goes by. I’m going 
> to install ChromeVox on my Mac using the instructions provided earlier, and 
> see what I think of it. But I can tell you for certain that my sighted 
> life-skills tutor prefers Chrome over Safari any day. I guess one thing that 
> I find a bit interesting is that some links work just by hitting Enter, while 
> for others Enter doesn’t work and I have to hit VO Spacebar. One example of 
> this is when checking my work email and going through the Spam folder, Enter 
> does not work for opening that folder but it does work otherwise. My work 
> email account is a subdomain of Gmail. But perhaps that is just a VoiceOver 
> thing, one which I haven’t quite gotten used to. This applies to both 
> browsers.
> JAKE JOEHL
> jajo...@att.net
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> 
>> Do you folks like Chrome better than Safari for the mac? I am having some 
>> trouble with Safari on pages I use a lot, and am wondering about trying 
>> Chrome.
>> 
>> Kristeen
>> 
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>> wrote:
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Re: Google Chrome on the Mac

[Kristeen Hughes]

The links don't show in Safari. There is supposed to be a lind after each name 
on a particular page, for example. Safaru simply doesn't see them.

Kristeen

On Mar 19, 2014, at 9:48 AM, isaac  wrote:

> Have you tried using the rotor in safari to get to the links faster?
> On Mar 19, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> 
>> There are certain links that it does not show. I know they're there and with 
>> a Windows machine people see them. VO crashes a lot with Item chooser and 
>> sometimes just because. If I use the back button, it takes me to an entirely 
>> different area. It makes a site I'm using a lot right now almost 
>> unmanageable. I don't know if I have a configuration that should be changed 
>> or what, but there is some of it.
>> 
>> Kristeen
>> 
>> On Mar 19, 2014, at 9:26 AM, isaac  wrote:
>> 
>>> What problems are you having with safari on the mac?On Mar 19, 2014, at 
>>> 7:55 AM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Do you folks like Chrome better than Safari for the mac? I am having some 
>>>> trouble with Safari on pages I use a lot, and am wondering about trying 
>>>> Chrome.
>>>> 
>>>> Kristeen
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Juaanita Marttin  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I just installed Google Chrome on the MacBook Air.  Are there any tips 
>>>>> and tricks I should know about using it?  Any settings that would make it 
>>>>> more accessible?  I’ve already made it the default browser.
>>>>> Thanks.
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Re: Google Chrome on the Mac

[isaac]

Have you tried using the rotor in safari to get to the links faster?
On Mar 19, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:

> There are certain links that it does not show. I know they're there and with 
> a Windows machine people see them. VO crashes a lot with Item chooser and 
> sometimes just because. If I use the back button, it takes me to an entirely 
> different area. It makes a site I'm using a lot right now almost 
> unmanageable. I don't know if I have a configuration that should be changed 
> or what, but there is some of it.
> 
> Kristeen
> 
> On Mar 19, 2014, at 9:26 AM, isaac  wrote:
> 
>> What problems are you having with safari on the mac?On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:55 
>> AM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
>> 
>>> Do you folks like Chrome better than Safari for the mac? I am having some 
>>> trouble with Safari on pages I use a lot, and am wondering about trying 
>>> Chrome.
>>> 
>>> Kristeen
>>> 
>>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Juaanita Marttin  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I just installed Google Chrome on the MacBook Air.  Are there any tips and 
>>>> tricks I should know about using it?  Any settings that would make it more 
>>>> accessible?  I’ve already made it the default browser.
>>>> Thanks.
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Re: Adding page to bookmarks with Google Chrome

[isaac]

Use the command d command to add bookmarks to google crome.
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Re: Google Chrome on the Mac

[Kristeen Hughes]

There are certain links that it does not show. I know they're there and with a 
Windows machine people see them. VO crashes a lot with Item chooser and 
sometimes just because. If I use the back button, it takes me to an entirely 
different area. It makes a site I'm using a lot right now almost unmanageable. 
I don't know if I have a configuration that should be changed or what, but 
there is some of it.

Kristeen

On Mar 19, 2014, at 9:26 AM, isaac  wrote:

> What problems are you having with safari on the mac?On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:55 
> AM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> 
>> Do you folks like Chrome better than Safari for the mac? I am having some 
>> trouble with Safari on pages I use a lot, and am wondering about trying 
>> Chrome.
>> 
>> Kristeen
>> 
>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Juaanita Marttin  
>> wrote:
>> 
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>>> tricks I should know about using it?  Any settings that would make it more 
>>> accessible?  I’ve already made it the default browser.
>>> Thanks.
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Adding page to bookmarks with Google Chrome

[Juaanita Marttin]

How do you add a page to bookmarks with G C ?

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Re: Google Chrome on the Mac

[isaac]

No I don’tlike crome. I have had better luck with safari.
On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:

> Do you folks like Chrome better than Safari for the mac? I am having some 
> trouble with Safari on pages I use a lot, and am wondering about trying 
> Chrome.
> 
> Kristeen
> 
> On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Juaanita Marttin  
> wrote:
> 
>> I just installed Google Chrome on the MacBook Air.  Are there any tips and 
>> tricks I should know about using it?  Any settings that would make it more 
>> accessible?  I’ve already made it the default browser.
>> Thanks.
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Re: Google Chrome on the Mac

[isaac]

What problems are you having with safari on the mac?On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:55 
AM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:

> Do you folks like Chrome better than Safari for the mac? I am having some 
> trouble with Safari on pages I use a lot, and am wondering about trying 
> Chrome.
> 
> Kristeen
> 
> On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Juaanita Marttin  
> wrote:
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>> I just installed Google Chrome on the MacBook Air.  Are there any tips and 
>> tricks I should know about using it?  Any settings that would make it more 
>> accessible?  I’ve already made it the default browser.
>> Thanks.
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Re: Google Chrome on the Mac

[Kristeen Hughes]

Do you folks like Chrome better than Safari for the mac? I am having some 
trouble with Safari on pages I use a lot, and am wondering about trying Chrome.

Kristeen

On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Juaanita Marttin  wrote:

> I just installed Google Chrome on the MacBook Air.  Are there any tips and 
> tricks I should know about using it?  Any settings that would make it more 
> accessible?  I’ve already made it the default browser.
> Thanks.
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Re: Google Chrome on the Mac

[alberto]

I think the link will give you that info too.
On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:57 PM, Juanita Martin  wrote:

> From where do you get Chrome Vox? 
> 
> sent from my phone
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> Nope.  You need to activate chrome vox. then voice over will just auto quick 
>> talking. I dunno how it works, but it works  if you want to use it. You do 
>> not have to though as chrome is getting way better and has been ever since I 
>> started using it in 2012.
>>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 2:31 PM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So if I’m using Chrome and just toggle VoiceOver off, will the other one 
>>> start talking? Now you’ve peaked my interest, lol! I have been using Chrome 
>>> on here along with Safari, and I actually like both. My life-skills tutor 
>>> is the one who originally suggested I install Chrome on here. He is fully 
>>> sighted and swears by it.
>>> Jake
>>> JAKE JOEHL
>>> jajo...@att.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I use chrome vox when needed.  It is an extension that runs when your 
>>>> screen reader si not needed but does not run in the address bar or the 
>>>> menu bar. it makes the page easier to use.
>>>> 
>>>> If not, then all voice over tricks and tips should still work in google 
>>>> chrome. I also love chrome but for the university's sake i do not use it 
>>>> as my default. it is pretty fast though and the team read the list I'm on 
>>>> to discuss chrome and its various accessibility issues.
>>>> 
>>>> Take care.
>>>>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Juaanita Marttin  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just installed Google Chrome on the MacBook Air.  Are there any tips 
>>>>> Nope.  You need to activate chrome vox. then voice over will just auto 
>>>>> quick talking. I dunno how it works, but it works  if you want to use it. 
>>>>> You do not have to though as chrome is getting way better and has been 
>>>>> ever since I started using it in 2012.
>>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 2:31 PM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So if I’m using Chrome and just toggle VoiceOver off, will the other one 
>>> start talking? Now you’ve peaked my interest, lol! I have been using Chrome 
>>> on here along with Safari, and I actually like both. My life-skills tutor 
>>> is the one who originally suggested I install Chrome on here. He is fully 
>>> sighted and swears by it.
>>> Jake
>>> JAKE JOEHL
>>> jajo...@att.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I use chrome vox when needed.  It is an extension that runs when your 
>>>> screen reader si not needed but does not run in the address bar or the 
>>>> menu bar. it makes the page easier to use.
>>>> 
>>>> If not, then all voice over tricks and tips should still work in google 
>>>> chrome. I also love chrome but for the university's sake i do not use it 
>>>> as my default. it is pretty fast though and the team read the list I'm on 
>>>> to discuss chrome and its various accessibility issues.
>>>> 
>>>> Take care.
>>>>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Juaanita Marttin  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just installed Google Chrome on the MacBook Air.  Are there any tips 
>>>>> and tricks I should know about using it?  Any settings that would make it 
>>>>> more accessible?  I’ve already made it the default browser.
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> 
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Re: Google Chrome on the Mac

[Juanita Martin]

From where do you get Chrome Vox? 

sent from my phone
 


> On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> Nope.  You need to activate chrome vox. then voice over will just auto quick 
> talking. I dunno how it works, but it works  if you want to use it. You do 
> not have to though as chrome is getting way better and has been ever since I 
> started using it in 2012.
>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 2:31 PM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:
>> 
>> So if I’m using Chrome and just toggle VoiceOver off, will the other one 
>> start talking? Now you’ve peaked my interest, lol! I have been using Chrome 
>> on here along with Safari, and I actually like both. My life-skills tutor is 
>> the one who originally suggested I install Chrome on here. He is fully 
>> sighted and swears by it.
>> Jake
>> JAKE JOEHL
>> jajo...@att.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I use chrome vox when needed.  It is an extension that runs when your 
>>> screen reader si not needed but does not run in the address bar or the menu 
>>> bar. it makes the page easier to use.
>>> 
>>> If not, then all voice over tricks and tips should still work in google 
>>> chrome. I also love chrome but for the university's sake i do not use it as 
>>> my default. it is pretty fast though and the team read the list I'm on to 
>>> discuss chrome and its various accessibility issues.
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Juaanita Marttin  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I just installed Google Chrome on the MacBook Air.  Are there any tips 
>>>> Nope.  You need to activate chrome vox. then voice over will just auto 
>>>> quick talking. I dunno how it works, but it works  if you want to use it. 
>>>> You do not have to though as chrome is getting way better and has been 
>>>> ever since I started using it in 2012.
>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 2:31 PM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> So if I’m using Chrome and just toggle VoiceOver off, will the other one 
>> start talking? Now you’ve peaked my interest, lol! I have been using Chrome 
>> on here along with Safari, and I actually like both. My life-skills tutor is 
>> the one who originally suggested I install Chrome on here. He is fully 
>> sighted and swears by it.
>> Jake
>> JAKE JOEHL
>> jajo...@att.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I use chrome vox when needed.  It is an extension that runs when your 
>>> screen reader si not needed but does not run in the address bar or the menu 
>>> bar. it makes the page easier to use.
>>> 
>>> If not, then all voice over tricks and tips should still work in google 
>>> chrome. I also love chrome but for the university's sake i do not use it as 
>>> my default. it is pretty fast though and the team read the list I'm on to 
>>> discuss chrome and its various accessibility issues.
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Juaanita Marttin  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I just installed Google Chrome on the MacBook Air.  Are there any tips and 
>>>> tricks I should know about using it?  Any settings that would make it more 
>>>> accessible?  I’ve already made it the default browser.
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
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Re: Google Chrome on the Mac

[Bryan Jones]

I would second Sarah’s suggestion of installing the ChromeVox extension. If you 
visit www.chromevox.com you will find a link to install the extension, a guide 
to the chromevox keyboard shortcuts, and a nice interactive tutorial to help 
you get up and running quickly with ChromeVox.

HTH,
Bryan

On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Juaanita Marttin  wrote:
> I just installed Google Chrome on the MacBook Air.  Are there any tips and 
> tricks I should know about using it?  Any settings that would make it more 
> accessible?  I’ve already made it the default browser.

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Re: Google Chrome on the Mac

[Sarah k Alawami]

Nope.  You need to activate chrome vox. then voice over will just auto quick 
talking. I dunno how it works, but it works  if you want to use it. You do not 
have to though as chrome is getting way better and has been ever since I 
started using it in 2012.
On Mar 18, 2014, at 2:31 PM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:

> So if I’m using Chrome and just toggle VoiceOver off, will the other one 
> start talking? Now you’ve peaked my interest, lol! I have been using Chrome 
> on here along with Safari, and I actually like both. My life-skills tutor is 
> the one who originally suggested I install Chrome on here. He is fully 
> sighted and swears by it.
> Jake
> JAKE JOEHL
> jajo...@att.net
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
>> I use chrome vox when needed.  It is an extension that runs when your screen 
>> reader si not needed but does not run in the address bar or the menu bar. it 
>> makes the page easier to use.
>> 
>> If not, then all voice over tricks and tips should still work in google 
>> chrome. I also love chrome but for the university's sake i do not use it as 
>> my default. it is pretty fast though and the team read the list I'm on to 
>> discuss chrome and its various accessibility issues.
>> 
>> Take care.
>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Juaanita Marttin  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I just installed Google Chrome on the MacBook Air.  Are there any tips and 
>>> tricks I should know about using it?  Any settings that would make it more 
>>> accessible?  I’ve already made it the default browser.
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
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Re: Google Chrome on the Mac

[JAKE JOEHL]

So if I’m using Chrome and just toggle VoiceOver off, will the other one start 
talking? Now you’ve peaked my interest, lol! I have been using Chrome on here 
along with Safari, and I actually like both. My life-skills tutor is the one 
who originally suggested I install Chrome on here. He is fully sighted and 
swears by it.
Jake
JAKE JOEHL
jajo...@att.net



On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> I use chrome vox when needed.  It is an extension that runs when your screen 
> reader si not needed but does not run in the address bar or the menu bar. it 
> makes the page easier to use.
> 
> If not, then all voice over tricks and tips should still work in google 
> chrome. I also love chrome but for the university's sake i do not use it as 
> my default. it is pretty fast though and the team read the list I'm on to 
> discuss chrome and its various accessibility issues.
> 
> Take care.
> On Mar 18, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Juaanita Marttin  
> wrote:
> 
>> I just installed Google Chrome on the MacBook Air.  Are there any tips and 
>> tricks I should know about using it?  Any settings that would make it more 
>> accessible?  I’ve already made it the default browser.
>> Thanks.
>> 
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Re: Google Chrome on the Mac

[Sarah k Alawami]

I use chrome vox when needed.  It is an extension that runs when your screen 
reader si not needed but does not run in the address bar or the menu bar. it 
makes the page easier to use.

If not, then all voice over tricks and tips should still work in google chrome. 
I also love chrome but for the university's sake i do not use it as my default. 
it is pretty fast though and the team read the list I'm on to discuss chrome 
and its various accessibility issues.

Take care.
On Mar 18, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Juaanita Marttin  wrote:

> I just installed Google Chrome on the MacBook Air.  Are there any tips and 
> tricks I should know about using it?  Any settings that would make it more 
> accessible?  I’ve already made it the default browser.
> Thanks.
> 
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Google Chrome on the Mac

[Juaanita Marttin]

I just installed Google Chrome on the MacBook Air.  Are there any tips and 
tricks I should know about using it?  Any settings that would make it more 
accessible?  I’ve already made it the default browser.
Thanks.

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Re: Google Chrome

[Sean Murphy]

It works far better then Safari from my point of view. Table navigation 
actually works while in voice-over with Safari you have issues when you move up 
a table from bottom to top in a column. 

You can easily search on the web page by increments. Safari doesn’t give you 
this. Selecting text is easy as well. 

Sean 
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Re: Google Chrome

[Chris H]

The app is free and seems accessible when I last tried it. I prefer 
Safari though for some reason particularly the ticks when a page is loading.


Regards Chris

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Google Chrome

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Stupid question I'm sure, is there a Google Chrome Browser App for IOS and has 
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Re: Google Chrome

[Dane Trethowan]

Just installed it and I've been playing for the last half an hour, its nice and 
fast I have to admit though I'm going to have to play a little more and work 
out the subtle things like selecting items in list boxes and so on.


On 22 Feb 2014, at 5:33 am, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> I also love  google chrome. I use it along with lightning and safari for my 
> browsers. chrome  vox also is working pretty well.
> 
> Take care and be blessed.
> On Feb 21, 2014, at 9:00 AM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:
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>> latest build but I’m not positive. I use Chrome and Safari interchangeably 
>> and like both. They both work very well with Voiceover.
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Re: Google Chrome

[Sarah k Alawami]

I also love  google chrome. I use it along with lightning and safari for my 
browsers. chrome  vox also is working pretty well.

Take care and be blessed.
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> although I’ve never actually used it with Chromevox. I assume this is the 
> latest build but I’m not positive. I use Chrome and Safari interchangeably 
> and like both. They both work very well with Voiceover.
> Jake
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Re: Google Chrome

[JAKE JOEHL]

I am running Google Chrome on my Mac Book Air. It seems to work great, although 
I’ve never actually used it with Chromevox. I assume this is the latest build 
but I’m not positive. I use Chrome and Safari interchangeably and like both. 
They both work very well with Voiceover.
Jake
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Google Chrome

[Dane Trethowan]

Hi!

I know there are people here who have tried this as I've seen the threads in 
the past but not taken all that much notice.

So where are we at now with Google Chrome and its associated tools with OSX 
Mavericks? I know a little about how Chrome and its tools work given that I 
have a Samsung Chromebox but that's another story for another place and time.



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Re: Google Chrome app

[Glenn]

I do have a correction,
The app is called Chrome Cast.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher gilland" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: Google Chrome app


Oh, you're talking about the Chromevox.  Yeah, I hear they're somewhat
decent.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Glenn" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 12:06 AM
Subject: Google Chrome app


> Hi,
> I bought a couple of Google Chrome devices for family members, for Xmas,
> for
> 35 dollars each at Amazon.
> There is a free Google Chrome app for the IOS devices, on the app store,
> called Google Chrome, and I am pleased to report that the device is at
> least
> indirectly usable by a Blind person using VoiceOver from their IOS device.
> There are two parts of setting it up, one is plugging it into your TV and
> then connecting to your router.
> This part is not doable by a Blind person, because TVs don't yet have
> screenreaders.
> The other part is to open the Google Chrome app on your IOS device, and
> you
> will find the Google Chrome device if you are connected to the same router
> it is connected to.
> A funny thing about this is, if someone is watching a program, you can
> change what they are watching from your device.
> You can watch content from your device, like videos and YouTube content,
> and
> NetFlix and other similar content.
> Since I don't have an Apple TV device, I cannot compare the two except to
> say that I suspect that a person using VoiceOver can probably set it up
> completely, where connecting the device to the router is not possible
> since
> it has no speakers, and no touch-screen and I don't think there would be a
> way to run TalkBack on it.
>
> Anyway, I hope some find this useful.
> Glenn
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Re: Google Chrome app

[Josh Gregory]

LOL it's quite alright, I'm sure I've done something like that myself, in fact 
I know I have.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 30, 2013, at 12:35 AM, "Christopher gilland" 
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> What did I say, Chromevox?  God!  It's been a long night!  Damn I feel 
> imbarrassed!  Tarzan cry!  LOL!
> 
> Sorry bout that.  I feel really smart right about now!  LOL!
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Josh Gregory" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 12:33 AM
> Subject: Re: Google Chrome app
> 
> 
>> No… Sorry, I think thats a Chromecast.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 30, 2013, at 12:16 AM, "Christopher gilland" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh, you're talking about the Chromevox.  Yeah, I hear they're somewhat 
>>> decent.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Glenn" 
>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 12:06 AM
>>> Subject: Google Chrome app
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I bought a couple of Google Chrome devices for family members, for Xmas, 
>>>> for
>>>> 35 dollars each at Amazon.
>>>> There is a free Google Chrome app for the IOS devices, on the app store,
>>>> called Google Chrome, and I am pleased to report that the device is at 
>>>> least
>>>> indirectly usable by a Blind person using VoiceOver from their IOS device.
>>>> There are two parts of setting it up, one is plugging it into your TV and
>>>> then connecting to your router.
>>>> This part is not doable by a Blind person, because TVs don't yet have
>>>> screenreaders.
>>>> The other part is to open the Google Chrome app on your IOS device, and you
>>>> will find the Google Chrome device if you are connected to the same router
>>>> it is connected to.
>>>> A funny thing about this is, if someone is watching a program, you can
>>>> change what they are watching from your device.
>>>> You can watch content from your device, like videos and YouTube content, 
>>>> and
>>>> NetFlix and other similar content.
>>>> Since I don't have an Apple TV device, I cannot compare the two except to
>>>> say that I suspect that a person using VoiceOver can probably set it up
>>>> completely, where connecting the device to the router is not possible since
>>>> it has no speakers, and no touch-screen and I don't think there would be a
>>>> way to run TalkBack on it.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyway, I hope some find this useful.
>>>> Glenn
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Re: Google Chrome app

[Christopher gilland]

What did I say, Chromevox?  God!  It's been a long night!  Damn I feel 
imbarrassed!  Tarzan cry!  LOL!


Sorry bout that.  I feel really smart right about now!  LOL!

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Josh Gregory" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 12:33 AM
Subject: Re: Google Chrome app



No… Sorry, I think thats a Chromecast.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 30, 2013, at 12:16 AM, "Christopher gilland" 
 wrote:


Oh, you're talking about the Chromevox.  Yeah, I hear they're somewhat 
decent.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Glenn" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 12:06 AM
Subject: Google Chrome app



Hi,
I bought a couple of Google Chrome devices for family members, for Xmas, 
for

35 dollars each at Amazon.
There is a free Google Chrome app for the IOS devices, on the app store,
called Google Chrome, and I am pleased to report that the device is at 
least
indirectly usable by a Blind person using VoiceOver from their IOS 
device.
There are two parts of setting it up, one is plugging it into your TV 
and

then connecting to your router.
This part is not doable by a Blind person, because TVs don't yet have
screenreaders.
The other part is to open the Google Chrome app on your IOS device, and 
you
will find the Google Chrome device if you are connected to the same 
router

it is connected to.
A funny thing about this is, if someone is watching a program, you can
change what they are watching from your device.
You can watch content from your device, like videos and YouTube content, 
and

NetFlix and other similar content.
Since I don't have an Apple TV device, I cannot compare the two except 
to

say that I suspect that a person using VoiceOver can probably set it up
completely, where connecting the device to the router is not possible 
since
it has no speakers, and no touch-screen and I don't think there would be 
a

way to run TalkBack on it.

Anyway, I hope some find this useful.
Glenn

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Re: Google Chrome app

[Josh Gregory]

No… Sorry, I think thats a Chromecast.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 30, 2013, at 12:16 AM, "Christopher gilland" 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oh, you're talking about the Chromevox.  Yeah, I hear they're somewhat decent.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Glenn" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 12:06 AM
> Subject: Google Chrome app
> 
> 
>> Hi,
>> I bought a couple of Google Chrome devices for family members, for Xmas, for
>> 35 dollars each at Amazon.
>> There is a free Google Chrome app for the IOS devices, on the app store,
>> called Google Chrome, and I am pleased to report that the device is at least
>> indirectly usable by a Blind person using VoiceOver from their IOS device.
>> There are two parts of setting it up, one is plugging it into your TV and
>> then connecting to your router.
>> This part is not doable by a Blind person, because TVs don't yet have
>> screenreaders.
>> The other part is to open the Google Chrome app on your IOS device, and you
>> will find the Google Chrome device if you are connected to the same router
>> it is connected to.
>> A funny thing about this is, if someone is watching a program, you can
>> change what they are watching from your device.
>> You can watch content from your device, like videos and YouTube content, and
>> NetFlix and other similar content.
>> Since I don't have an Apple TV device, I cannot compare the two except to
>> say that I suspect that a person using VoiceOver can probably set it up
>> completely, where connecting the device to the router is not possible since
>> it has no speakers, and no touch-screen and I don't think there would be a
>> way to run TalkBack on it.
>> 
>> Anyway, I hope some find this useful.
>> Glenn
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Re: Google Chrome app

[Christopher gilland]

Oh, you're talking about the Chromevox.  Yeah, I hear they're somewhat 
decent.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Glenn" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 12:06 AM
Subject: Google Chrome app



Hi,
I bought a couple of Google Chrome devices for family members, for Xmas, 
for

35 dollars each at Amazon.
There is a free Google Chrome app for the IOS devices, on the app store,
called Google Chrome, and I am pleased to report that the device is at 
least

indirectly usable by a Blind person using VoiceOver from their IOS device.
There are two parts of setting it up, one is plugging it into your TV and
then connecting to your router.
This part is not doable by a Blind person, because TVs don't yet have
screenreaders.
The other part is to open the Google Chrome app on your IOS device, and 
you

will find the Google Chrome device if you are connected to the same router
it is connected to.
A funny thing about this is, if someone is watching a program, you can
change what they are watching from your device.
You can watch content from your device, like videos and YouTube content, 
and

NetFlix and other similar content.
Since I don't have an Apple TV device, I cannot compare the two except to
say that I suspect that a person using VoiceOver can probably set it up
completely, where connecting the device to the router is not possible 
since

it has no speakers, and no touch-screen and I don't think there would be a
way to run TalkBack on it.

Anyway, I hope some find this useful.
Glenn

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Google Chrome app

[Glenn]

Hi,
I bought a couple of Google Chrome devices for family members, for Xmas, for 
35 dollars each at Amazon.
There is a free Google Chrome app for the IOS devices, on the app store, 
called Google Chrome, and I am pleased to report that the device is at least 
indirectly usable by a Blind person using VoiceOver from their IOS device.
There are two parts of setting it up, one is plugging it into your TV and 
then connecting to your router.
This part is not doable by a Blind person, because TVs don't yet have 
screenreaders.
The other part is to open the Google Chrome app on your IOS device, and you 
will find the Google Chrome device if you are connected to the same router 
it is connected to.
A funny thing about this is, if someone is watching a program, you can 
change what they are watching from your device.
You can watch content from your device, like videos and YouTube content, and 
NetFlix and other similar content.
Since I don't have an Apple TV device, I cannot compare the two except to 
say that I suspect that a person using VoiceOver can probably set it up 
completely, where connecting the device to the router is not possible since 
it has no speakers, and no touch-screen and I don't think there would be a 
way to run TalkBack on it.

Anyway, I hope some find this useful.
Glenn

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Re: Can't Print From Google Chrome From My Air

[Sarah k Alawami]

What happens if you hit cmd p on th page you want to print? does that work?

Good luck.
On Dec 29, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Eileens Misrahi  wrote:

> Hello Folks,
> 
> I need to print education certificates. I am using a Mac Air with Mountain 
> Lion and Google Chrome. I brought up the contextual menu with VO-ShIFT-M and 
> arrowed down to print... Now, Google Chrome just hangs there and says busy 
> and I have not received a print copy, which needs to be submitted for my 
> renewal. Am I missing a step? How can I correct this and go to the next item 
> that I need to print? Any suggestion would be great.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Cheers,
> Eileen
> 
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Can't Print From Google Chrome From My Air

[Eileens Misrahi]

Hello Folks,

I need to print education certificates. I am using a Mac Air with Mountain Lion 
and Google Chrome. I brought up the contextual menu with VO-ShIFT-M and arrowed 
down to print... Now, Google Chrome just hangs there and says busy and I have 
not received a print copy, which needs to be submitted for my renewal. Am I 
missing a step? How can I correct this and go to the next item that I need to 
print? Any suggestion would be great.

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
Eileen


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Re: using google chrome

[Josh Gregory]

Figured as much. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 1, 2013, at 10:00 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> It is.  according to the rules, and I follow the rules to the letter, and I 
> mean to the letter.  That's why I was going to email info about the other 
> list off list lol! Hehahah.  Oh well.
> 
> Take care.
> On May 1, 2013, at 2:05 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
> 
>> I do apologize, I just figured that might be a bit…  off topic?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On May 1, 2013, at 11:20 AM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Please keep this info on list. Others want to know about it too.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Josh Gregory" 
>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 10:49 AM
>>> Subject: Re: using google chrome
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Can you send me the info off list? Thanks
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On May 1, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I would start by reading the very good interactive tutorial that comess 
>>>>> with it. . You simply just launch chrome and it should come up with a 
>>>>> dialogue to update chrome vox.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is a dedicated list serve for google chrome and google access in 
>>>>> general. I'm on it, and there are a ton of people who are happy to help.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tae care.
>>>>> On May 1, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I see, I apologize then. How does it work? And how do you update it?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 1, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Chromvox works quite well with google crome. I use it constantly on the 
>>>>>>> websites that never work with safari.  and combo boxes are supported. 
>>>>>>> you  just need to know how to use the from vox modifier. Stay in sticky 
>>>>>>> mode as the combos are much easier to enter.  I actually need to update 
>>>>>>> mine shortly.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>>> On May 1, 2013, at 7:02 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It's better than chromevox, which won't support combo boxes at all. At 
>>>>>>>> least from what I have seen of it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On May 1, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Chrome will work with voiceover pretty well. There are a few 
>>>>>>>>> outstanding issues, the main one I can think of is, if you come to an 
>>>>>>>>> unlabeled link, voiceover does not provide the URL for the link, so 
>>>>>>>>> there is no way to tell what it does. Also, some list boxes do not 
>>>>>>>>> read.
>>>>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>>>>> hi i see google chrome works ok it seems under mountain lino so do i 
>>>>>>>>>> need the add on, chrome box?
>>>>>>>>>> thanks to all, Will
>>>>>>>>> 
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Re: using google chrome

[Sarah k Alawami]

It is.  according to the rules, and I follow the rules to the letter, and I 
mean to the letter.  That's why I was going to email info about the other list 
off list lol! Hehahah.  Oh well.

Take care.
On May 1, 2013, at 2:05 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:

> I do apologize, I just figured that might be a bit…  off topic?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 1, 2013, at 11:20 AM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:
> 
>> Please keep this info on list. Others want to know about it too.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Josh Gregory" 
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 10:49 AM
>> Subject: Re: using google chrome
>> 
>> 
>>> Can you send me the info off list? Thanks
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On May 1, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I would start by reading the very good interactive tutorial that comess 
>>>> with it. . You simply just launch chrome and it should come up with a 
>>>> dialogue to update chrome vox.
>>>> 
>>>> There is a dedicated list serve for google chrome and google access in 
>>>> general. I'm on it, and there are a ton of people who are happy to help.
>>>> 
>>>> Tae care.
>>>> On May 1, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I see, I apologize then. How does it work? And how do you update it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 1, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Chromvox works quite well with google crome. I use it constantly on the 
>>>>>> websites that never work with safari.  and combo boxes are supported. 
>>>>>> you  just need to know how to use the from vox modifier. Stay in sticky 
>>>>>> mode as the combos are much easier to enter.  I actually need to update 
>>>>>> mine shortly.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>> On May 1, 2013, at 7:02 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It's better than chromevox, which won't support combo boxes at all. At 
>>>>>>> least from what I have seen of it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 1, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Chrome will work with voiceover pretty well. There are a few 
>>>>>>>> outstanding issues, the main one I can think of is, if you come to an 
>>>>>>>> unlabeled link, voiceover does not provide the URL for the link, so 
>>>>>>>> there is no way to tell what it does. Also, some list boxes do not 
>>>>>>>> read.
>>>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>>>> hi i see google chrome works ok it seems under mountain lino so do i 
>>>>>>>>> need the add on, chrome box?
>>>>>>>>> thanks to all, Will
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
>>>>>>>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access 
>>>>>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
>>>>>>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html>
>>>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive:
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>.
>>>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml>
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>> ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, 
>>>>>>>>> Trojan, virus and worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace 
>>>>>>>>> your own security strategy.  We assume neither liability nor 
>>>>>>>>> responsibility shou

Re: using google chrome

[Josh Gregory]

I do apologize, I just figured that might be a bit…  off topic?

Sent from my iPhone

On May 1, 2013, at 11:20 AM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:

> Please keep this info on list. Others want to know about it too.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Josh Gregory" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 10:49 AM
> Subject: Re: using google chrome
> 
> 
>> Can you send me the info off list? Thanks
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On May 1, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>>> I would start by reading the very good interactive tutorial that comess 
>>> with it. . You simply just launch chrome and it should come up with a 
>>> dialogue to update chrome vox.
>>> 
>>> There is a dedicated list serve for google chrome and google access in 
>>> general. I'm on it, and there are a ton of people who are happy to help.
>>> 
>>> Tae care.
>>> On May 1, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I see, I apologize then. How does it work? And how do you update it?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On May 1, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Chromvox works quite well with google crome. I use it constantly on the 
>>>>> websites that never work with safari.  and combo boxes are supported. you 
>>>>>  just need to know how to use the from vox modifier. Stay in sticky mode 
>>>>> as the combos are much easier to enter.  I actually need to update mine 
>>>>> shortly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take care.
>>>>> On May 1, 2013, at 7:02 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's better than chromevox, which won't support combo boxes at all. At 
>>>>>> least from what I have seen of it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 1, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Chrome will work with voiceover pretty well. There are a few 
>>>>>>> outstanding issues, the main one I can think of is, if you come to an 
>>>>>>> unlabeled link, voiceover does not provide the URL for the link, so 
>>>>>>> there is no way to tell what it does. Also, some list boxes do not read.
>>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>>> hi i see google chrome works ok it seems under mountain lino so do i 
>>>>>>>> need the add on, chrome box?
>>>>>>>> thanks to all, Will
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
>>>>>>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access 
>>>>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
>>>>>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html>
>>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive:
>>>>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>.
>>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
>>>>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to 
>>>>>>>> ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, 
>>>>>>>> Trojan, virus and worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace 
>>>>>>>> your own security strategy.  We assume neither liability nor 
>>>>>>>> responsibility should something unpredictable happen.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by 
>>>>>>>> visiting the list website at:
>>>>>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/>
>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
>>>>>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>>>>>>

Re: using google chrome

[Sarah k Alawami]

If you need more info contact me off list as this list is not for google from 
but for mac questions, at least that's how I read and interpret the rules, but 
here's more info on the google access group.

http://groups.google.com/group/axs-chrome-discuss

Take care.
On May 1, 2013, at 8:20 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> Please keep this info on list. Others want to know about it too.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Josh Gregory" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 10:49 AM
> Subject: Re: using google chrome
> 
> 
>> Can you send me the info off list? Thanks
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On May 1, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>>> I would start by reading the very good interactive tutorial that comess 
>>> with it. . You simply just launch chrome and it should come up with a 
>>> dialogue to update chrome vox.
>>> 
>>> There is a dedicated list serve for google chrome and google access in 
>>> general. I'm on it, and there are a ton of people who are happy to help.
>>> 
>>> Tae care.
>>> On May 1, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I see, I apologize then. How does it work? And how do you update it?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On May 1, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Chromvox works quite well with google crome. I use it constantly on the 
>>>>> websites that never work with safari.  and combo boxes are supported. you 
>>>>>  just need to know how to use the from vox modifier. Stay in sticky mode 
>>>>> as the combos are much easier to enter.  I actually need to update mine 
>>>>> shortly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take care.
>>>>> On May 1, 2013, at 7:02 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's better than chromevox, which won't support combo boxes at all. At 
>>>>>> least from what I have seen of it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 1, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Chrome will work with voiceover pretty well. There are a few 
>>>>>>> outstanding issues, the main one I can think of is, if you come to an 
>>>>>>> unlabeled link, voiceover does not provide the URL for the link, so 
>>>>>>> there is no way to tell what it does. Also, some list boxes do not read.
>>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>>> hi i see google chrome works ok it seems under mountain lino so do i 
>>>>>>>> need the add on, chrome box?
>>>>>>>> thanks to all, Will
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
>>>>>>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access 
>>>>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
>>>>>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html>
>>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive:
>>>>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>.
>>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
>>>>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to 
>>>>>>>> ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, 
>>>>>>>> Trojan, virus and worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace 
>>>>>>>> your own security strategy.  We assume neither liability nor 
>>>>>>>> responsibility should something unpredictable happen.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by 
>>>>>>>> visiting the list website at:
>>>>>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/>
>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>>>>

Re: using google chrome

[Sarah k Alawami]

lol. it is my replacement screen reader if you will for chrome. I only use 
voice over if chrome vox choaks, which is rare. 

Take care.
On May 1, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Bryan Jones  wrote:

> You do not need to have the Chromevox extension installed in order to use 
> Chrome, but I find it useful as a fallback screen reader when I encounter 
> something that causes VO to choke.
> 
> Bryan
> 
> On May 1, 2013, at 6:58 AM, William Lomas  wrote:
>> hi i see google chrome works ok it seems under mountain lino so do i need 
>> the add on, chrome box?
>> 
> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
> 
> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
> mac-access@mac-access.net
> 
> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at 
> either the list's own dedicated web archive:
> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html>
> or at the public Mail Archive:
> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>.
> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml>
> 
> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that 
> the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and 
> worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace your own security 
> strategy.  We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something 
> unpredictable happen.
> 
> Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by 
> visiting the list website at:
> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/>
> 

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To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net

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Re: using google chrome

[Bryan Jones]

You do not need to have the Chromevox extension installed in order to use 
Chrome, but I find it useful as a fallback screen reader when I encounter 
something that causes VO to choke.

Bryan

On May 1, 2013, at 6:58 AM, William Lomas  wrote:
> hi i see google chrome works ok it seems under mountain lino so do i need the 
> add on, chrome box?
> 
<--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->

To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net

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Re: using google chrome

[Phil Halton]

Please keep this info on list. Others want to know about it too.

- Original Message - 
From: "Josh Gregory" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: using google chrome



Can you send me the info off list? Thanks

Sent from my iPhone

On May 1, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

I would start by reading the very good interactive tutorial that comess 
with it. . You simply just launch chrome and it should come up with a 
dialogue to update chrome vox.


There is a dedicated list serve for google chrome and google access in 
general. I'm on it, and there are a ton of people who are happy to help.


Tae care.
On May 1, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:


I see, I apologize then. How does it work? And how do you update it?

Sent from my iPhone

On May 1, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

Chromvox works quite well with google crome. I use it constantly on the 
websites that never work with safari.  and combo boxes are supported. 
you  just need to know how to use the from vox modifier. Stay in sticky 
mode as the combos are much easier to enter.  I actually need to update 
mine shortly.


Take care.
On May 1, 2013, at 7:02 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:

It's better than chromevox, which won't support combo boxes at all. At 
least from what I have seen of it.


Sent from my iPhone

On May 1, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:

Chrome will work with voiceover pretty well. There are a few 
outstanding issues, the main one I can think of is, if you come to an 
unlabeled link, voiceover does not provide the URL for the link, so 
there is no way to tell what it does. Also, some list boxes do not 
read.

Original message:
hi i see google chrome works ok it seems under mountain lino so do i 
need the add on, chrome box?

thanks to all, Will



<--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->


To reply to this post, please address your message to 
mac-access@mac-access.net


You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access 
forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive:

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Trojan, virus and worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace 
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responsibility should something unpredictable happen.


Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically 
by visiting the list website at:

<http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/>

<--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->

To reply to this post, please address your message to 
mac-access@mac-access.net


You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access 
forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive:

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mac-access@mac-access.net


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Re: using google chrome

[Josh Gregory]

Can you send me the info off list? Thanks

Sent from my iPhone

On May 1, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> I would start by reading the very good interactive tutorial that comess with 
> it. . You simply just launch chrome and it should come up with a dialogue to 
> update chrome vox. 
> 
> There is a dedicated list serve for google chrome and google access in 
> general. I'm on it, and there are a ton of people who are happy to help.
> 
> Tae care. 
> On May 1, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
> 
>> I see, I apologize then. How does it work? And how do you update it?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On May 1, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>>> Chromvox works quite well with google crome. I use it constantly on the 
>>> websites that never work with safari.  and combo boxes are supported. you  
>>> just need to know how to use the from vox modifier. Stay in sticky mode as 
>>> the combos are much easier to enter.  I actually need to update mine 
>>> shortly.
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>> On May 1, 2013, at 7:02 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It's better than chromevox, which won't support combo boxes at all. At 
>>>> least from what I have seen of it.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On May 1, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Chrome will work with voiceover pretty well. There are a few outstanding 
>>>>> issues, the main one I can think of is, if you come to an unlabeled link, 
>>>>> voiceover does not provide the URL for the link, so there is no way to 
>>>>> tell what it does. Also, some list boxes do not read.
>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>> hi i see google chrome works ok it seems under mountain lino so do i 
>>>>>> need the add on, chrome box?
>>>>>> thanks to all, Will
>>>>> 
>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>>>> 
>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
>>>>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>>>> 
>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access 
>>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
>>>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html>
>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive:
>>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>.
>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
>>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml>
>>>>> 
>>>>>> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure 
>>>>>> that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus 
>>>>>> and worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace your own security 
>>>>>> strategy.  We assume neither liability nor responsibility should 
>>>>>> something unpredictable happen.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by 
>>>>>> visiting the list website at:
>>>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/>
>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>>>> 
>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
>>>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum 
>>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
>>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html>
>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive:
>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>.
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>>>>> 
>>>>> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure 
>>>>> that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus 
>>>>> and worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace your own security 
>>>>> strategy.  We assume neither liability nor responsibility should 
>>>>> something unpredictable happen.
>>>>> 
>>>&

Re: using google chrome

[Sarah k Alawami]

I would start by reading the very good interactive tutorial that comess with 
it. . You simply just launch chrome and it should come up with a dialogue to 
update chrome vox. 

There is a dedicated list serve for google chrome and google access in general. 
I'm on it, and there are a ton of people who are happy to help.

Tae care. 
On May 1, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:

> I see, I apologize then. How does it work? And how do you update it?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 1, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
>> Chromvox works quite well with google crome. I use it constantly on the 
>> websites that never work with safari.  and combo boxes are supported. you  
>> just need to know how to use the from vox modifier. Stay in sticky mode as 
>> the combos are much easier to enter.  I actually need to update mine shortly.
>> 
>> Take care.
>> On May 1, 2013, at 7:02 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>>> It's better than chromevox, which won't support combo boxes at all. At 
>>> least from what I have seen of it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On May 1, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Chrome will work with voiceover pretty well. There are a few outstanding 
>>>> issues, the main one I can think of is, if you come to an unlabeled link, 
>>>> voiceover does not provide the URL for the link, so there is no way to 
>>>> tell what it does. Also, some list boxes do not read.
>>>> Original message:
>>>>> hi i see google chrome works ok it seems under mountain lino so do i need 
>>>>> the add on, chrome box?
>>>>> thanks to all, Will
>>>> 
>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>>> 
>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
>>>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>>> 
>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum 
>>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
>>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html>
>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive:
>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>.
>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml>
>>>> 
>>>>> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure 
>>>>> that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus 
>>>>> and worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace your own security 
>>>>> strategy.  We assume neither liability nor responsibility should 
>>>>> something unpredictable happen.
>>>> 
>>>>> Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by 
>>>>> visiting the list website at:
>>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/>
>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>>> 
>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
>>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>>> 
>>>> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum 
>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html>
>>>> or at the public Mail Archive:
>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>.
>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml>
>>>> 
>>>> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure 
>>>> that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and 
>>>> worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace your own security 
>>>> strategy.  We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something 
>>>> unpredictable happen.
>>>> 
>>>> Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by 
>>>> visiting the list website at:
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>>>> 
>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>> 
>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>> 
>>> You can find an archive o

Re: using google chrome

[Josh Gregory]

I see, I apologize then. How does it work? And how do you update it?

Sent from my iPhone

On May 1, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> Chromvox works quite well with google crome. I use it constantly on the 
> websites that never work with safari.  and combo boxes are supported. you  
> just need to know how to use the from vox modifier. Stay in sticky mode as 
> the combos are much easier to enter.  I actually need to update mine shortly.
> 
> Take care.
> On May 1, 2013, at 7:02 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
> 
>> It's better than chromevox, which won't support combo boxes at all. At least 
>> from what I have seen of it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On May 1, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>>> Chrome will work with voiceover pretty well. There are a few outstanding 
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Re: using google chrome

[Isaac Hebert]

I use crome vox too with google crome it works.

On 5/1/13, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> Chromvox works quite well with google crome. I use it constantly on the
> websites that never work with safari.  and combo boxes are supported. you
> just need to know how to use the from vox modifier. Stay in sticky mode as
> the combos are much easier to enter.  I actually need to update mine
> shortly.
>
> Take care.
> On May 1, 2013, at 7:02 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>
>> It's better than chromevox, which won't support combo boxes at all. At
>> least from what I have seen of it.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 1, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>
>>> Chrome will work with voiceover pretty well. There are a few outstanding
>>> issues, the main one I can think of is, if you come to an unlabeled link,
>>> voiceover does not provide the URL for the link, so there is no way to
>>> tell what it does. Also, some list boxes do not read.
>>> Original message:
>>>> hi i see google chrome works ok it seems under mountain lino so do i
>>>> need the add on, chrome box?
>>>> thanks to all, Will
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Re: using google chrome

[Sarah k Alawami]

Chromvox works quite well with google crome. I use it constantly on the 
websites that never work with safari.  and combo boxes are supported. you  just 
need to know how to use the from vox modifier. Stay in sticky mode as the 
combos are much easier to enter.  I actually need to update mine shortly.

Take care.
On May 1, 2013, at 7:02 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:

> It's better than chromevox, which won't support combo boxes at all. At least 
> from what I have seen of it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 1, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
>> Chrome will work with voiceover pretty well. There are a few outstanding 
>> issues, the main one I can think of is, if you come to an unlabeled link, 
>> voiceover does not provide the URL for the link, so there is no way to tell 
>> what it does. Also, some list boxes do not read.
>> Original message:
>>> hi i see google chrome works ok it seems under mountain lino so do i need 
>>> the add on, chrome box?
>>> thanks to all, Will
>> 
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Re: using google chrome

[Josh Gregory]

It's better than chromevox, which won't support combo boxes at all. At least 
from what I have seen of it.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 1, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:

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>> the add on, chrome box?
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Re: using google chrome

[Isaac Hebert]

yes you should get crome vox.

On 5/1/13, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
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> outstanding issues, the main one I can think of is, if you come to an
> unlabeled link, voiceover does not provide the URL for the link, so
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> Original message:
>> hi i see google chrome works ok it seems under mountain lino so do i
>> need the add on, chrome box?
>> thanks to all, Will
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Re: using google chrome

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Chrome will work with voiceover pretty well. There are a few 
outstanding issues, the main one I can think of is, if you come to an 
unlabeled link, voiceover does not provide the URL for the link, so 
there is no way to tell what it does. Also, some list boxes do not read.

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need the add on, chrome box?

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Re: using google chrome

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I used to use it, but it tends to mess up voiceover so I just disabled it.

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using google chrome

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hi i see google chrome works ok it seems under mountain lino so do i need the 
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Re: TreshMe; [Was "google chrome, how do I get rid of this dumb thing?"]

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Hello Sarah

On 8 Sep 2012, at 22:22, Sarah Alawami  wrote:

• I would try redownloaidn it and ten installing and the unlnstalling it with 
trash me. it will pick up everything and more it to the trash. then you can 
empty your trash.

Dreadful spelling there Sarah! :) Anyway, TrashMe is another real treasure. We 
use it all the time, it's absolutely magic. If anybody is interested in buying 
this little app, it's in the App Store.

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Re: google chrome, how do I get rid of this dumb thing?

[Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith]

Hello James

Just wanted to say "Good Call" on this one, since you correctly used the upper 
case "L" on the string "~/Library/". However, you did miss the closing quote. 
;-)

Just joking James. As I said it was a good call. Most people forget that some 
systems, (ours, for example), are case sensitive as has always been the case 
with Linux/Unix systems I believe. We use case sensitive file systems because 
it allows us much more flexibility. It can, at times, cause problems though 
under OS X.

Getting back to Cait's problem though, it brings me back to another subject 
close to my heart, backups. I honestly believe that if possible, it is always 
wise to create a full system backup before a major installation such as Chrome 
is performed. We personally have never performed that specific installation, 
although we have been tempted too given the number of websites which still do 
not support Safari 6.

Something which does not impact on my own personal use, but which does on 
Gordon's and, I would assume, every other VoiceOver users as well, is the 
verbalisation of icons mapped to links or even just text. So, you'll hear 
something like "Link, Icon_1_Home.gif" followed by another occurrence of "Link, 
Home". Sometimes there are two links, sometimes not; depends very much on the 
website. I have often wondered whether that happens in other browsers using 
VoiceOver.

Anyway, I am drifting off topic. Good call regarding the instructions you gave 
to Cait. I encourage backups be made using apps such as the recently and 
extensively discussed "Carbon Copy Cloner" and "Super Duper!". They would save 
a great deal of headache I'm sure.

Lynne

On 8 Sep 2012, at 21:54, JAMES AUSTIN  wrote:

• You might also want to  check the Application Support folder and your 
Preferences folder, which you'll find in your Library folder.

• If your own Library folder is hidden, which is the default setting since 
Lion, then do the following;

1. In the Finder, press Command+Shift+G. This will bring up the "Go To" 
dialogue. 
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quoted text., so you might just want to copy the quoted text.
3. You'll find the Application Support and Preferences folders here.
4. Within the Preferences folder, you're looking for a file called something 
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delete them and then empty your trash. This should alleviate your problem. 

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Re: google chrome, how do I get rid of this dumb thing?

[Cait Furness]

James, *thank you, thank you, thank you*!  

I'd already remembered in my foggy brain about the go menu and the hidden 
library by the time I'd written my message to the list and purged the dumb 
files from the support folder, but completely forgot about the preferences 
folder, so naturally the dumb chrome app came back from the dead as soon as I 
clicked on a link again in mail even though I rebooted and emptied the trash!  
I'll have another go round and see what happenes this time!

Cait

On 2012-09-08, at 4:54 PM, JAMES AUSTIN  wrote:

> Hi Caitlyn
> On 8 Sep 2012, at 20:13, Cait Furness  wrote:
> Is there some hidden place I can purge some dastardly files from, please?
> 
> You might also want to  check the Application Support folder and your 
> Preferences folder, which you'll find in your Library folder.
> 
> If your own Library folder is hidden, which is the default setting since 
> Lion, then do the following;
> 
> 1. In the Finder, press Command+Shift+G. This will bring up the "Go To" 
> dialogue. 
> 2. Type the following, without the quotes" "~/Library/ There is a slash in 
> this quoted text., so you might just want to copy the quoted text.
> 3. You'll find the Application Support and Preferences folders here.
> 4. Within the Preferences folder, you're looking for a file called something 
> like: "com.google.chrome.plist" There may be a few of these files. You can 
> delete them and then empty your trash. This should alleviate your problem. 
> 
> Warmest wishes 
> James 
> 
> Hi,
> Ok, in a moment of weakness, I stupidly downloaded google chrome and 
> installed it on my mac.  Now, I want to uninstall it completely off my system 
> as there are things I don't like about it after all.  I already went to my 
> applications folder and binned the app, but for some reason, my mac still 
> thinks it's residing someplace on the system and tries to open links in it 
> every time I click on a link from mail.  What's more, if I do click on a link 
> from within mail, it actually *does* open chrome.  Now, I don't know where 
> it's finding this thing, since I uninstalled it from the apps folder and then 
> emptied my trash and restarted my system!
> 
> Is there some hidden place I can purge some dastardly files from, please?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
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Re: google chrome, how do I get rid of this dumb thing?

[Sarah Alawami]

I would try redownloaidn it and ten installing and the unlnstalling it with 
trash me. it will pick up everything and more it to the trash. then you can 
empty your trash.

I love google cream but I have to use it as our automation system requires it 
or firefox.

Tc all.
On Sep 8, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Cait Furness  wrote:

> Hi,
> Ok, in a moment of weakness, I stupidly downloaded google chrome and 
> installed it on my mac.  Now, I want to uninstall it completely off my system 
> as there are things I don't like about it after all.  I already went to my 
> applications folder and binned the app, but for some reason, my mac still 
> thinks it's residing someplace on the system and tries to open links in it 
> every time I click on a link from mail.  What's more, if I do click on a link 
> from within mail, it actually *does* open chrome.  Now, I don't know where 
> it's finding this thing, since I uninstalled it from the apps folder and then 
> emptied my trash and restarted my system!
> 
> Is there some hidden place I can purge some dastardly files from, please?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Caitlyn
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Re: google chrome, how do I get rid of this dumb thing?

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Hi Caitlyn
On 8 Sep 2012, at 20:13, Cait Furness  wrote:
Is there some hidden place I can purge some dastardly files from, please?

You might also want to  check the Application Support folder and your 
Preferences folder, which you'll find in your Library folder.

If your own Library folder is hidden, which is the default setting since Lion, 
then do the following;

1. In the Finder, press Command+Shift+G. This will bring up the "Go To" 
dialogue. 
2. Type the following, without the quotes" "~/Library/ There is a slash in this 
quoted text., so you might just want to copy the quoted text.
3. You'll find the Application Support and Preferences folders here.
4. Within the Preferences folder, you're looking for a file called something 
like: "com.google.chrome.plist" There may be a few of these files. You can 
delete them and then empty your trash. This should alleviate your problem. 

Warmest wishes 
James 

Hi,
Ok, in a moment of weakness, I stupidly downloaded google chrome and installed 
it on my mac.  Now, I want to uninstall it completely off my system as there 
are things I don't like about it after all.  I already went to my applications 
folder and binned the app, but for some reason, my mac still thinks it's 
residing someplace on the system and tries to open links in it every time I 
click on a link from mail.  What's more, if I do click on a link from within 
mail, it actually *does* open chrome.  Now, I don't know where it's finding 
this thing, since I uninstalled it from the apps folder and then emptied my 
trash and restarted my system!

Is there some hidden place I can purge some dastardly files from, please?

Thanks!

Caitlyn

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google chrome, how do I get rid of this dumb thing?

[Cait Furness]

Hi,
Ok, in a moment of weakness, I stupidly downloaded google chrome and installed 
it on my mac.  Now, I want to uninstall it completely off my system as there 
are things I don't like about it after all.  I already went to my applications 
folder and binned the app, but for some reason, my mac still thinks it's 
residing someplace on the system and tries to open links in it every time I 
click on a link from mail.  What's more, if I do click on a link from within 
mail, it actually *does* open chrome.  Now, I don't know where it's finding 
this thing, since I uninstalled it from the apps folder and then emptied my 
trash and restarted my system!

Is there some hidden place I can purge some dastardly files from, please?

Thanks!

Caitlyn

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Flash player and Google Chrome

[Paul Hopewell]

Hello, 
I am trying to play the sound for an E-card I have received. This requires 
Adobe Flash. I cannot locate the "play" button for flash using Safari on Lion 
10.7.2 and am now wondering if I would have more joy using Google Chrome. I 
entered "Flash" as a search term in the list of Chrome extensions and got back 
rather a long list. Has anyone had any joy getting flash to work with either 
Safari or Google Chrome? 
If I view the E-card on Windows using the WindowEyes screen reader I can see a 
button which I have to press to get flash to play the card. 
I have flash 11 installed but am rather confused about flash extensions for 
browsers and the basic flash player. 
 
Many thanks. 

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Re: Working with Google Chrome

[Jane]

I was just trying to play the game in the tutorial, you know, navigating 
through the table and follow instructions, but I couldn't get past the first 
one.

Google Chrome version is 16.0.912.41 beta


Jane

On Nov 24, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:

> I'm able to use ChromeVox-T, ChromeVox-;/' to get to start/end of a row.
> I'm using Chrome 16 beta with Gmail.com Basic HTML.
> 
> What build of Chrome are you using and website is this not working?
> 
> Kevin
> 
> On 11/24/11, Jane  wrote:
>> Well, if I read the instructions correctly you hit vo-keys plus t and then
>> vo-keys plus semi-colon or apostrophe.  It's the semi-colon or apostrophe
>> that don't seem to work for getting from the begging of the row to the end.
>> I haven't even tried the left-brace and right-brace and other possible
>> commands yet.
>> 
>> Jane
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 24, 2011, at 3:18 AM, Kevin Chao wrote:
>> 
>>> table navigation is much better than before, completely revamped, and very
>>> intuitive and easy now. What's the key conflict?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Nov 23, 2011, at 8:58 PM, Jane  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I got it going.  Now wrestling with Table navigation; the rest was easy.
>>> Emailed the list about it.  Well, the moderators.  Hope I don't get into
>>> trouble.  Seems ther's a key conflict.
>>> 
>>> Jane
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 23, 2011, at 8:47 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Using Chrome, visit:
>>>> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/kgejglhpjiefppelpmljglcjbhoiplfn
>>>> 
>>>> select add to Chrome button, select OK, and you'll be up and running
>>>> with ChromeVox.
>>>> 
>>>> Kevin
>>>> 
>>>> On 11/23/11, Jane  wrote:
>>>>> Well, um, I had downloaded Google Chrome Canary, but it wouldn't work,
>>>>> so
>>>>> re-installed the other Google Chrome, and I am now trying to get the
>>>>> silly
>>>>> extension to come up again.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jane
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 23, 2011, at 7:22 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Chrome web browser and ChromeVox will update itself. There's no need
>>>>>> to do anything at all.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> TO check if you have llatest version:
>>>>>> Chrome>About, and it should be 15.
>>>>>> Chrome Preferences>extensions or chrome://extensions and ChromeVox
>>>>>> should be 1.16.0
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Use Google Docs with a screen reader documentation
>>>>>> http://goo.gl/cmeHV
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kevin
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 11/23/11, Jane  wrote:
>>>>>>> I have Google Chrome and Chrome Vox, but they aren't updated.  What do
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> need to update both the browser and the speech plugin thing?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Also, how can I use it to edit Google Documents and spreadsheets?  I
>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>> that I can sort of read the contents, but I don't see how to edit.
>>>>>>> Any
>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>> is appreciated.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jane
>>>>>>> 
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Re: Working with Google Chrome

[Kevin Chao]

I'm able to use ChromeVox-T, ChromeVox-;/' to get to start/end of a row.
I'm using Chrome 16 beta with Gmail.com Basic HTML.

What build of Chrome are you using and website is this not working?

Kevin

On 11/24/11, Jane  wrote:
> Well, if I read the instructions correctly you hit vo-keys plus t and then
> vo-keys plus semi-colon or apostrophe.  It's the semi-colon or apostrophe
> that don't seem to work for getting from the begging of the row to the end.
> I haven't even tried the left-brace and right-brace and other possible
> commands yet.
>
> Jane
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 24, 2011, at 3:18 AM, Kevin Chao wrote:
>
>> table navigation is much better than before, completely revamped, and very
>> intuitive and easy now. What's the key conflict?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 23, 2011, at 8:58 PM, Jane  wrote:
>>
>> I got it going.  Now wrestling with Table navigation; the rest was easy.
>> Emailed the list about it.  Well, the moderators.  Hope I don't get into
>> trouble.  Seems ther's a key conflict.
>>
>> Jane
>>
>>
>> On Nov 23, 2011, at 8:47 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
>>
>>> Using Chrome, visit:
>>> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/kgejglhpjiefppelpmljglcjbhoiplfn
>>>
>>> select add to Chrome button, select OK, and you'll be up and running
>>> with ChromeVox.
>>>
>>> Kevin
>>>
>>> On 11/23/11, Jane  wrote:
>>>> Well, um, I had downloaded Google Chrome Canary, but it wouldn't work,
>>>> so
>>>> re-installed the other Google Chrome, and I am now trying to get the
>>>> silly
>>>> extension to come up again.
>>>>
>>>> Jane
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 23, 2011, at 7:22 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Chrome web browser and ChromeVox will update itself. There's no need
>>>>> to do anything at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> TO check if you have llatest version:
>>>>> Chrome>About, and it should be 15.
>>>>> Chrome Preferences>extensions or chrome://extensions and ChromeVox
>>>>> should be 1.16.0
>>>>>
>>>>> Use Google Docs with a screen reader documentation
>>>>> http://goo.gl/cmeHV
>>>>>
>>>>> Kevin
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/23/11, Jane  wrote:
>>>>>> I have Google Chrome and Chrome Vox, but they aren't updated.  What do
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> need to update both the browser and the speech plugin thing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, how can I use it to edit Google Documents and spreadsheets?  I
>>>>>> see
>>>>>> that I can sort of read the contents, but I don't see how to edit.
>>>>>> Any
>>>>>> help
>>>>>> is appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jane
>>>>>>
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Re: Working with Google Chrome

[Jane]

Well, if I read the instructions correctly you hit vo-keys plus t and then 
vo-keys plus semi-colon or apostrophe.  It's the semi-colon or apostrophe that 
don't seem to work for getting from the begging of the row to the end.  I 
haven't even tried the left-brace and right-brace and other possible commands 
yet.

Jane




On Nov 24, 2011, at 3:18 AM, Kevin Chao wrote:

> table navigation is much better than before, completely revamped, and very 
> intuitive and easy now. What's the key conflict?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 23, 2011, at 8:58 PM, Jane  wrote:
> 
> I got it going.  Now wrestling with Table navigation; the rest was easy.  
> Emailed the list about it.  Well, the moderators.  Hope I don't get into 
> trouble.  Seems ther's a key conflict.
> 
> Jane
> 
> 
> On Nov 23, 2011, at 8:47 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
> 
>> Using Chrome, visit:
>> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/kgejglhpjiefppelpmljglcjbhoiplfn
>> 
>> select add to Chrome button, select OK, and you'll be up and running
>> with ChromeVox.
>> 
>> Kevin
>> 
>> On 11/23/11, Jane  wrote:
>>> Well, um, I had downloaded Google Chrome Canary, but it wouldn't work, so
>>> re-installed the other Google Chrome, and I am now trying to get the silly
>>> extension to come up again.
>>> 
>>> Jane
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 23, 2011, at 7:22 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Chrome web browser and ChromeVox will update itself. There's no need
>>>> to do anything at all.
>>>> 
>>>> TO check if you have llatest version:
>>>> Chrome>About, and it should be 15.
>>>> Chrome Preferences>extensions or chrome://extensions and ChromeVox
>>>> should be 1.16.0
>>>> 
>>>> Use Google Docs with a screen reader documentation
>>>> http://goo.gl/cmeHV
>>>> 
>>>> Kevin
>>>> 
>>>> On 11/23/11, Jane  wrote:
>>>>> I have Google Chrome and Chrome Vox, but they aren't updated.  What do I
>>>>> need to update both the browser and the speech plugin thing?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also, how can I use it to edit Google Documents and spreadsheets?  I see
>>>>> that I can sort of read the contents, but I don't see how to edit.  Any
>>>>> help
>>>>> is appreciated.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jane
>>>>> 
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Re: Working with Google Chrome

[Kevin Chao]

table navigation is much better than before, completely revamped, and very 
intuitive and easy now. What's the key conflict?

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 23, 2011, at 8:58 PM, Jane  wrote:

I got it going.  Now wrestling with Table navigation; the rest was easy.  
Emailed the list about it.  Well, the moderators.  Hope I don't get into 
trouble.  Seems ther's a key conflict.

Jane


On Nov 23, 2011, at 8:47 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:

> Using Chrome, visit:
> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/kgejglhpjiefppelpmljglcjbhoiplfn
> 
> select add to Chrome button, select OK, and you'll be up and running
> with ChromeVox.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> On 11/23/11, Jane  wrote:
>> Well, um, I had downloaded Google Chrome Canary, but it wouldn't work, so
>> re-installed the other Google Chrome, and I am now trying to get the silly
>> extension to come up again.
>> 
>> Jane
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 23, 2011, at 7:22 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
>> 
>>> Chrome web browser and ChromeVox will update itself. There's no need
>>> to do anything at all.
>>> 
>>> TO check if you have llatest version:
>>> Chrome>About, and it should be 15.
>>> Chrome Preferences>extensions or chrome://extensions and ChromeVox
>>> should be 1.16.0
>>> 
>>> Use Google Docs with a screen reader documentation
>>> http://goo.gl/cmeHV
>>> 
>>> Kevin
>>> 
>>> On 11/23/11, Jane  wrote:
>>>> I have Google Chrome and Chrome Vox, but they aren't updated.  What do I
>>>> need to update both the browser and the speech plugin thing?
>>>> 
>>>> Also, how can I use it to edit Google Documents and spreadsheets?  I see
>>>> that I can sort of read the contents, but I don't see how to edit.  Any
>>>> help
>>>> is appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> Jane
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Re: Working with Google Chrome

[Jane]

I got it going.  Now wrestling with Table navigation; the rest was easy.  
Emailed the list about it.  Well, the moderators.  Hope I don't get into 
trouble.  Seems ther's a key conflict.

Jane


On Nov 23, 2011, at 8:47 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:

> Using Chrome, visit:
> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/kgejglhpjiefppelpmljglcjbhoiplfn
> 
> select add to Chrome button, select OK, and you'll be up and running
> with ChromeVox.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> On 11/23/11, Jane  wrote:
>> Well, um, I had downloaded Google Chrome Canary, but it wouldn't work, so
>> re-installed the other Google Chrome, and I am now trying to get the silly
>> extension to come up again.
>> 
>> Jane
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 23, 2011, at 7:22 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
>> 
>>> Chrome web browser and ChromeVox will update itself. There's no need
>>> to do anything at all.
>>> 
>>> TO check if you have llatest version:
>>> Chrome>About, and it should be 15.
>>> Chrome Preferences>extensions or chrome://extensions and ChromeVox
>>> should be 1.16.0
>>> 
>>> Use Google Docs with a screen reader documentation
>>> http://goo.gl/cmeHV
>>> 
>>> Kevin
>>> 
>>> On 11/23/11, Jane  wrote:
>>>> I have Google Chrome and Chrome Vox, but they aren't updated.  What do I
>>>> need to update both the browser and the speech plugin thing?
>>>> 
>>>> Also, how can I use it to edit Google Documents and spreadsheets?  I see
>>>> that I can sort of read the contents, but I don't see how to edit.  Any
>>>> help
>>>> is appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> Jane
>>>> 
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Re: Working with Google Chrome

[Kevin Chao]

Using Chrome, visit:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/kgejglhpjiefppelpmljglcjbhoiplfn

select add to Chrome button, select OK, and you'll be up and running
with ChromeVox.

Kevin

On 11/23/11, Jane  wrote:
> Well, um, I had downloaded Google Chrome Canary, but it wouldn't work, so
> re-installed the other Google Chrome, and I am now trying to get the silly
> extension to come up again.
>
> Jane
>
>
> On Nov 23, 2011, at 7:22 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
>
>> Chrome web browser and ChromeVox will update itself. There's no need
>> to do anything at all.
>>
>> TO check if you have llatest version:
>> Chrome>About, and it should be 15.
>> Chrome Preferences>extensions or chrome://extensions and ChromeVox
>> should be 1.16.0
>>
>> Use Google Docs with a screen reader documentation
>> http://goo.gl/cmeHV
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> On 11/23/11, Jane  wrote:
>>> I have Google Chrome and Chrome Vox, but they aren't updated.  What do I
>>> need to update both the browser and the speech plugin thing?
>>>
>>> Also, how can I use it to edit Google Documents and spreadsheets?  I see
>>> that I can sort of read the contents, but I don't see how to edit.  Any
>>> help
>>> is appreciated.
>>>
>>> Jane
>>>
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Re: Working with Google Chrome

[Jane]

Well, um, I had downloaded Google Chrome Canary, but it wouldn't work, so 
re-installed the other Google Chrome, and I am now trying to get the silly 
extension to come up again. 

Jane


On Nov 23, 2011, at 7:22 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:

> Chrome web browser and ChromeVox will update itself. There's no need
> to do anything at all.
> 
> TO check if you have llatest version:
> Chrome>About, and it should be 15.
> Chrome Preferences>extensions or chrome://extensions and ChromeVox
> should be 1.16.0
> 
> Use Google Docs with a screen reader documentation
> http://goo.gl/cmeHV
> 
> Kevin
> 
> On 11/23/11, Jane  wrote:
>> I have Google Chrome and Chrome Vox, but they aren't updated.  What do I
>> need to update both the browser and the speech plugin thing?
>> 
>> Also, how can I use it to edit Google Documents and spreadsheets?  I see
>> that I can sort of read the contents, but I don't see how to edit.  Any help
>> is appreciated.
>> 
>> Jane
>> 
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Working with Google Chrome

[Jane]

I have Google Chrome and Chrome Vox, but they aren't updated.  What do I need 
to update both the browser and the speech plugin thing?

Also, how can I use it to edit Google Documents and spreadsheets?  I see that I 
can sort of read the contents, but I don't see how to edit.  Any help is 
appreciated.

Jane


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Re: ChromeVox and Google Chrome

[Jane]

 have not tried installing Chrome from scratch.  I'm not even sure if I have 
the correct version.  I can try that.

Jane


On Oct 11, 2011, at 12:36 AM, Bryan Jones wrote:

> Hello Jane & Geoff,
> 
> I'm also not seeing this problem, at least not yet.
> 
> I'm running Chrome version 14.0.835.202 with the ChromeVox extension 1.15.1 
> installed directly from the Extension Gallery / Webstore on a macbook air 
> running OS 10.7.1.
> Here's a direct link to the ChromeVox extension in the chrome webstore: 
> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/kgejglhpjiefppelpmljglcjbhoiplfn


> 
> I've gotten through step 5 in the tutorial and have adjusted the speech rate, 
> pitch and volume without issue. I also turned VO off while navigating the 
> tutorial inside Chrome.
> 
> HTH,
> Bryan
> 
> On Oct 11, 2011, at 12:00 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>> I assume you installed Chromevox from the web store?  I'm not having this 
>> problem under Lion.  What kind of Mac are you using and which kitty?
>> Have you tried reinstalling Chrome from scratch 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Jane 
>> I've installed Google Chrome and ChromeVox.  I started to make my way 
>> through the tutorial, but it always crashes if I change the speech rate or 
>> any other attributes.  Is this happening to anyone else?  How can this be 
>> fixed?
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Re: ChromeVox and Google Chrome

[Bryan Jones]

Hello Jane & Geoff,

I'm also not seeing this problem, at least not yet.

I'm running Chrome version 14.0.835.202 with the ChromeVox extension 1.15.1 
installed directly from the Extension Gallery / Webstore on a macbook air 
running OS 10.7.1.
Here's a direct link to the ChromeVox extension in the chrome webstore: 
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/kgejglhpjiefppelpmljglcjbhoiplfn

I've gotten through step 5 in the tutorial and have adjusted the speech rate, 
pitch and volume without issue. I also turned VO off while navigating the 
tutorial inside Chrome.

HTH,
Bryan

On Oct 11, 2011, at 12:00 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
> I assume you installed Chromevox from the web store?  I'm not having this 
> problem under Lion.  What kind of Mac are you using and which kitty?
> Have you tried reinstalling Chrome from scratch 
> - Original Message ----- 
> From: Jane 
> I've installed Google Chrome and ChromeVox.  I started to make my way through 
> the tutorial, but it always crashes if I change the speech rate or any other 
> attributes.  Is this happening to anyone else?  How can this be fixed?

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Re: ChromeVox and Google Chrome

[Kevin Chao]

Jane,

Are you using Alex (any of the other legacy voices, Eg: Fred) or one
of the OS X Lion Nuance voices? If ladder, Apple has implemented those
voices in a way that it's very buggy even with VoiceOver.

Also, are you using Google Chrome 14 stable or 16 Canary? You can
check this by going to File>About. If you're not already doing so, 14
stable is recommended and will not crash.

Kevin


On 10/10/11, Geoff Waaler  wrote:
> Hi Jane,
>
> I assume you installed Chromevox from the web store?  I'm not having this
> problem under Lion.  What kind of Mac are you using and which kitty?
>
> Have you tried reinstalling Chrome from scratch in case something got all
> fubared during the install?
>
> Best regards.
> Geoff
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Jane
>   To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>   Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 11:34 PM
>   Subject: ChromeVox and Google Chrome
>
>
>   I've installed Google Chrome and ChromeVox.  I started to make my way
> through the tutorial, but it always crashes if I change the speech rate or
> any other attributes.  Is this happening to anyone else?  How can this be
> fixed?
>
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Re: ChromeVox and Google Chrome

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Jane,

I assume you installed Chromevox from the web store?  I'm not having this 
problem under Lion.  What kind of Mac are you using and which kitty?

Have you tried reinstalling Chrome from scratch in case something got all 
fubared during the install?

Best regards.
Geoff

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jane 
  To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 11:34 PM
  Subject: ChromeVox and Google Chrome


  I've installed Google Chrome and ChromeVox.  I started to make my way through 
the tutorial, but it always crashes if I change the speech rate or any other 
attributes.  Is this happening to anyone else?  How can this be fixed?

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ChromeVox and Google Chrome

[Jane]

I've installed Google Chrome and ChromeVox.  I started to make my way through 
the tutorial, but it always crashes if I change the speech rate or any other 
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Re: Google chrome

[Kevin Chao]

Yes, I use Blakcbaord all of the time. I was unable to use it with 
Safari/Voiceover, but have been able to without any problems at all with Chrome 
web browser and ChromeVox extension from Chrome Web Store. It works flawlessly 
with all of Blackboard, including discussion board. In college setting, I can 
have Blackbaord as CMS, CourseSmart as eTextbook, and Docs for productivity 
suite, and for it to be fully accessible and a great experience. I absolutely 
enjoy it and appreciate that Google has made this possible across multiple 
platforms with a unified experience.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 3, 2011, at 7:16 AM, Michael Busboom  wrote:

> Hello Kevin or anyone else,
> 
> I haven't been following the Google accessibility threads at all because I 
> didn't figure I would need to use any of the Google apps.  However, I heard 
> that the Google browser worked with BlackBoard, and if this is true, this is 
> very important for me.  Could someone please tell me what I need to download 
> in order for the Google apps to work on my Mac Book running Lion?  As far as 
> BlackBoard is concerned, can anyone tell me if it is possible with the Google 
> browser to reliably work with the discussion boards for individual university 
> classes?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mike
> 
> On 3,Oct,2011, at 12:37 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
> 
>> Navigate your Documents List with a screen reader
>> https://docs.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=1631662
>> 
>> Use Google documents with a screen reader
>> https://docs.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=1632201
>> 
>> Kevin
>> 
>> On 10/1/11, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> Following recent posts I am playing with Google chrome with chrome-vox and
>>> google docs. I am currently finding it very confusing and would appreciate
>>> any pointer to some good beginners documentation.
>>> 
>>> I have a Google account and I have installed the standard Google chrome (not
>>> chrome canary) and have chrome-vox and google docs installed. Google chrome
>>> now generates lots of mysterious sounds and often speaks in my default voice
>>> (not the voice I am using for VoiceOver). In many cases the screen info is
>>> inaccessible using standard VO keys but is accessible using tab and arrow
>>> keys which cause Google chrome to speak in my default voice. At present it
>>> is all very confusing.
>>> 
>>> Should I have installed chrome canary rather than the standard chrome? I see
>>> that chrome canary is the latest nightly untested chrome build and I saw
>>> several posts about it frequently crashing. Hence I have so far avoided it.
>>> 
>>> What do you chrome enthusiasts recommend I should do and where can I best
>>> read some basic info? I would like to get to the stage of uploading a
>>> Microsoft word document from my iMac local hard disk and then editing it
>>> using chrome.
>>> 
>>> Many thanks for any tips
>>> 
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Re: Problem Downloading Google chrome

[David Griffith]

Thakns for advice.
Yes going back and selecting the language did then mean that the download 
commenced. It is odd that a more helpful message was not produced by the web 
page rather than a simple thanks for downloading a product that was not in fact 
downloading. A simple error message saying please select language would have 
been much less confusing.

Thanks again.

Now Ihave to go and find the link to  Chrome Box 

David Griffith
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On 4 Oct 2011, at 18:09, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:

> I just tried again.  This time it worked.  Be very sure you select the 
> language for the browser before downloading.
> On 4 Oct 2011, at 18:05, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
> 
>> I just tried this and can verify the behaviour described.
>> On 4 Oct 2011, at 17:56, David Griffith wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear list 
>>> after the favourable reviews of google chrome on the Mac I have now 
>>> attempted to download the application several times.
>>> I go to the download page and then click the agree and download button.
>>> I am then  taken to a page which thanks me for downloading google Chrome. 
>>> I have now followed this link 6 times and still nothing has been downloaded 
>>> into my downloads folder.
>>> To check that general Safari downloads are working I downloaded another 
>>> file, actually an mp3 file today, this went fine into my downloads folder.
>>> I have tried restarting my Mac.
>>> Pressing the downloads button in Safari does not result in any downloads 
>>> listed  for download.
>>> I am using the latest build of Webkit nightly build on Lion.
>>> 
>>> Does anybody have any idea as to why it is impossible for me to download 
>>> Google Chrome? 
>>> David Griffith
>>> d.griff...@btinternet.com
>>> 
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Re: Problem Downloading Google chrome

[Dónal Fitzpatrick]

I just tried again.  This time it worked.  Be very sure you select the language 
for the browser before downloading.
On 4 Oct 2011, at 18:05, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:

> I just tried this and can verify the behaviour described.
> On 4 Oct 2011, at 17:56, David Griffith wrote:
> 
>> Dear list 
>> after the favourable reviews of google chrome on the Mac I have now 
>> attempted to download the application several times.
>> I go to the download page and then click the agree and download button.
>> I am then  taken to a page which thanks me for downloading google Chrome. 
>> I have now followed this link 6 times and still nothing has been downloaded 
>> into my downloads folder.
>> To check that general Safari downloads are working I downloaded another 
>> file, actually an mp3 file today, this went fine into my downloads folder.
>> I have tried restarting my Mac.
>> Pressing the downloads button in Safari does not result in any downloads 
>> listed  for download.
>> I am using the latest build of Webkit nightly build on Lion.
>> 
>> Does anybody have any idea as to why it is impossible for me to download 
>> Google Chrome? 
>> David Griffith
>> d.griff...@btinternet.com
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Re: Problem Downloading Google chrome

[Gordon Smith]

Try pressing enter on the link, see if that works.

Gordon


On 4 Oct 2011, at 18:05, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:

I just tried this and can verify the behaviour described.
On 4 Oct 2011, at 17:56, David Griffith wrote:

> Dear list 
> after the favourable reviews of google chrome on the Mac I have now attempted 
> to download the application several times.
> I go to the download page and then click the agree and download button.
> I am then  taken to a page which thanks me for downloading google Chrome. 
> I have now followed this link 6 times and still nothing has been downloaded 
> into my downloads folder.
> To check that general Safari downloads are working I downloaded another file, 
> actually an mp3 file today, this went fine into my downloads folder.
> I have tried restarting my Mac.
> Pressing the downloads button in Safari does not result in any downloads 
> listed  for download.
> I am using the latest build of Webkit nightly build on Lion.
> 
> Does anybody have any idea as to why it is impossible for me to download 
> Google Chrome? 
> David Griffith
> d.griff...@btinternet.com
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Re: Problem Downloading Google chrome

[Dónal Fitzpatrick]

I just tried this and can verify the behaviour described.
On 4 Oct 2011, at 17:56, David Griffith wrote:

> Dear list 
> after the favourable reviews of google chrome on the Mac I have now attempted 
> to download the application several times.
> I go to the download page and then click the agree and download button.
> I am then  taken to a page which thanks me for downloading google Chrome. 
> I have now followed this link 6 times and still nothing has been downloaded 
> into my downloads folder.
> To check that general Safari downloads are working I downloaded another file, 
> actually an mp3 file today, this went fine into my downloads folder.
> I have tried restarting my Mac.
> Pressing the downloads button in Safari does not result in any downloads 
> listed  for download.
> I am using the latest build of Webkit nightly build on Lion.
> 
> Does anybody have any idea as to why it is impossible for me to download 
> Google Chrome? 
> David Griffith
> d.griff...@btinternet.com
> 
> 
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Re: Google chrome

[Paul Hopewell]

HI Kevin, 
Many thanks for the attached references to helpful documents on how to use 
Google docs. 

I finally found some good help and a tutorial on how to use ChromeVox. At first 
I did not realise that it is a complete screen reader for the Google Chrome 
environment and that you first have to turn VoiceOver off to avoid confusion. 
There are a vast number of good shortcut keys to control ChromeVox but one 
problem I have not yet solved is the need to keep the ChromeVox keys 
Control+Option keys pressed while you tap in turn the two or more keys required 
to enter the required ChromeVox keyboard shortcut. I noticed that there is a 
sticky key feature which suggested that a double tap of the Insert key would 
lock the ChromeVox keys on. However I am not sure which Insert key and I have 
not gotten this to work. 
Have you solved this problem? 
Many thanks. 

Paul Hopewell 
On 3 Oct 2011, at 11:37, Kevin Chao wrote:

> Navigate your Documents List with a screen reader
> https://docs.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=1631662
> 
> Use Google documents with a screen reader
> https://docs.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=1632201
> 
> Kevin
> 
> On 10/1/11, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> Following recent posts I am playing with Google chrome with chrome-vox and
>> google docs. I am currently finding it very confusing and would appreciate
>> any pointer to some good beginners documentation.
>> 
>> I have a Google account and I have installed the standard Google chrome (not
>> chrome canary) and have chrome-vox and google docs installed. Google chrome
>> now generates lots of mysterious sounds and often speaks in my default voice
>> (not the voice I am using for VoiceOver). In many cases the screen info is
>> inaccessible using standard VO keys but is accessible using tab and arrow
>> keys which cause Google chrome to speak in my default voice. At present it
>> is all very confusing.
>> 
>> Should I have installed chrome canary rather than the standard chrome? I see
>> that chrome canary is the latest nightly untested chrome build and I saw
>> several posts about it frequently crashing. Hence I have so far avoided it.
>> 
>> What do you chrome enthusiasts recommend I should do and where can I best
>> read some basic info? I would like to get to the stage of uploading a
>> Microsoft word document from my iMac local hard disk and then editing it
>> using chrome.
>> 
>> Many thanks for any tips
>> 
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Re: Google chrome

[Michael Busboom]

Hello Kevin or anyone else,

I haven't been following the Google accessibility threads at all because I 
didn't figure I would need to use any of the Google apps.  However, I heard 
that the Google browser worked with BlackBoard, and if this is true, this is 
very important for me.  Could someone please tell me what I need to download in 
order for the Google apps to work on my Mac Book running Lion?  As far as 
BlackBoard is concerned, can anyone tell me if it is possible with the Google 
browser to reliably work with the discussion boards for individual university 
classes?

Thank you,

Mike

On 3,Oct,2011, at 12:37 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:

> Navigate your Documents List with a screen reader
> https://docs.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=1631662
> 
> Use Google documents with a screen reader
> https://docs.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=1632201
> 
> Kevin
> 
> On 10/1/11, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> Following recent posts I am playing with Google chrome with chrome-vox and
>> google docs. I am currently finding it very confusing and would appreciate
>> any pointer to some good beginners documentation.
>> 
>> I have a Google account and I have installed the standard Google chrome (not
>> chrome canary) and have chrome-vox and google docs installed. Google chrome
>> now generates lots of mysterious sounds and often speaks in my default voice
>> (not the voice I am using for VoiceOver). In many cases the screen info is
>> inaccessible using standard VO keys but is accessible using tab and arrow
>> keys which cause Google chrome to speak in my default voice. At present it
>> is all very confusing.
>> 
>> Should I have installed chrome canary rather than the standard chrome? I see
>> that chrome canary is the latest nightly untested chrome build and I saw
>> several posts about it frequently crashing. Hence I have so far avoided it.
>> 
>> What do you chrome enthusiasts recommend I should do and where can I best
>> read some basic info? I would like to get to the stage of uploading a
>> Microsoft word document from my iMac local hard disk and then editing it
>> using chrome.
>> 
>> Many thanks for any tips
>> 
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Re: Google chrome

[Kevin Chao]

Navigate your Documents List with a screen reader
https://docs.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=1631662

Use Google documents with a screen reader
https://docs.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=1632201

Kevin

On 10/1/11, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
> Hello,
> Following recent posts I am playing with Google chrome with chrome-vox and
> google docs. I am currently finding it very confusing and would appreciate
> any pointer to some good beginners documentation.
>
> I have a Google account and I have installed the standard Google chrome (not
> chrome canary) and have chrome-vox and google docs installed. Google chrome
> now generates lots of mysterious sounds and often speaks in my default voice
> (not the voice I am using for VoiceOver). In many cases the screen info is
> inaccessible using standard VO keys but is accessible using tab and arrow
> keys which cause Google chrome to speak in my default voice. At present it
> is all very confusing.
>
> Should I have installed chrome canary rather than the standard chrome? I see
> that chrome canary is the latest nightly untested chrome build and I saw
> several posts about it frequently crashing. Hence I have so far avoided it.
>
> What do you chrome enthusiasts recommend I should do and where can I best
> read some basic info? I would like to get to the stage of uploading a
> Microsoft word document from my iMac local hard disk and then editing it
> using chrome.
>
> Many thanks for any tips
>
> Paul Hopewell
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Google chrome

[Paul Hopewell]

Hello, 
Following recent posts I am playing with Google chrome with chrome-vox and 
google docs. I am currently finding it very confusing and would appreciate any 
pointer to some good beginners documentation. 

I have a Google account and I have installed the standard Google chrome (not 
chrome canary) and have chrome-vox and google docs installed. Google chrome now 
generates lots of mysterious sounds and often speaks in my default voice (not 
the voice I am using for VoiceOver). In many cases the screen info is 
inaccessible using standard VO keys but is accessible using tab and arrow keys 
which cause Google chrome to speak in my default voice. At present it is all 
very confusing. 

Should I have installed chrome canary rather than the standard chrome? I see 
that chrome canary is the latest nightly untested chrome build and I saw 
several posts about it frequently crashing. Hence I have so far avoided it. 

What do you chrome enthusiasts recommend I should do and where can I best read 
some basic info? I would like to get to the stage of uploading a Microsoft word 
document from my iMac local hard disk and then editing it using chrome. 

Many thanks for any tips

Paul Hopewell 
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Re: Google Chrome, ChromeVox, and Apps

[william lomas]

can't get this to install on my iMac when i run the package it says non 
readable, and i enabled the API's in chrome on my iMac

On Sep 28, 2011, at 11:20 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:

> As a college student and  an employee where professors, students, and
> co-workers are all using Google Docs. It's extremely exciting,
> empowering, and equalizing that I am able to use it as well with a
> consistent and unified experience on Mac OS X and other platforms. For
> me, Mac OS X with the various productivity/office suite and web
> browser have not allowed me to be productive, such as iWork (also
> tried Open Office, Libra Office, Bean, and Tables)  and Safari (also
> tried Webkit and Lightning) have not allowed me to be productive.
> However, Google has changed all of this. With Chrome, ChromeVox, Docs,
> and other Google Apps; I am able to be productive on my Mac.
> 
> Voiceover will work with Chrome, but the very same issues that occurs
> with Safari will exist, such as focus lost, inability to interact with
> HTML content, web rotor/item chooser missing elements/items, lag, TAB
> key being inconsistent, moving among various HTML elements will
> require several attempts, and many other issues.
> 
> ChromeVox is an extension that has very deep integration with Chrome,
> removes several layers of abstractions, and allows for things to be
> done that traditional desktop screen readers cannot due to it being a
> web browser extension. All the issues I detailed with Safari/VoiceOver
> do not exist in Chrome/ChromeVox.
> 
> many people can work on a document simultaneously,  and all of this is
> possible with Docs, is accessible, and it's
> possible to use other real-time features, such as chat to discuss
> various points with others who you are collaborating with, several can
> make changes, and it's possible to review/edit all these changes as
> they're occurring. Inserting, viewing, and editing comments are also
> accessible. All of this and much more with Docs applies to documents
> and spreadsheets.
> 
> It's a work in progress, with Google being very interested in
> feedback/input, great open communication, and will soon have updates
> addressing lots of areas, which includes new features, bug fixes, and
> other items, which are based on feedback. Essentially, a great web
> browser and access to standard/new versions of Docs, Calendar, and
> Gmail are the great highlights.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> On 9/27/11, Orin  wrote:
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> Just got Google Chrome and I'm loving it so far, Particularly the fast load
>> times. Downloading the current stable version the first time, I noticed that
>> Youtube links, when clicked on such as video links to switch videos were not
>> working, and the "see all" links were not working either.
>> 
>> Also, in preferences, the default is basics. How can I switch this? The
>> Youtube thing can probably be changed with a preference. When I get time
>> I'll install ChromeVox at some point, just seems like a lot of steps being
>> that it's late now.
>> 
>> Orin
>> orin8...@gmail.com
>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks
>> Skype: orin1112
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 27, 2011, at 9:01 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
>> 
>>> Google is very committed, understanding, and has done an incredible
>>> job with accessibility. In particular, Chrome, ChromeVox (Chrome
>>> extension), Apps (Docs [documents/spreadsheets], Calendar, and Gmail).
>>> This package results in a very effective, efficient, powerful, and
>>> top-notch productivity suite. All is needed is Chrome, ChromeVox, and
>>> a Gmail/Apps ID. I've been using Google apps, especially
>>> documents/spreadsheets for the last several days within Chrome and
>>> ChromeVox extension and find it to be great.
>>> 
>>> Please see below for all the links/details needed to get going with a
>>> universally accessible, powerful, robust, and first-class productivity
>>> suite.
>>> 
>>> Google Chrome Canary (Mac web browser powering ChromeVox/Apps):
>>> http://j.mp/oWZ7Of
>>> Installing ChromeVox as a packed extension
>>> http://j.mp/nmnNR5
>>> ChromeVox User Guide:
>>> http://t.co/b9ABBkv
>>> Use Google Docs with a screen reader
>>> http://goo.gl/cmeHV
>>> Google accessibility feedback:
>>> http://goo.gl/wePru
>>> 
>>> FYI: new/standard UI/look/view is recommended and will work with
>>> Chrome/ChromeVox.
>>> 
>>> Kevin
>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>> 
>>

Re: Google Chrome, ChromeVox, and Apps

[Kevin Chao]

As a college student and  an employee where professors, students, and
co-workers are all using Google Docs. It's extremely exciting,
empowering, and equalizing that I am able to use it as well with a
consistent and unified experience on Mac OS X and other platforms. For
me, Mac OS X with the various productivity/office suite and web
browser have not allowed me to be productive, such as iWork (also
tried Open Office, Libra Office, Bean, and Tables)  and Safari (also
tried Webkit and Lightning) have not allowed me to be productive.
However, Google has changed all of this. With Chrome, ChromeVox, Docs,
and other Google Apps; I am able to be productive on my Mac.

Voiceover will work with Chrome, but the very same issues that occurs
with Safari will exist, such as focus lost, inability to interact with
HTML content, web rotor/item chooser missing elements/items, lag, TAB
key being inconsistent, moving among various HTML elements will
require several attempts, and many other issues.

ChromeVox is an extension that has very deep integration with Chrome,
removes several layers of abstractions, and allows for things to be
done that traditional desktop screen readers cannot due to it being a
web browser extension. All the issues I detailed with Safari/VoiceOver
do not exist in Chrome/ChromeVox.

many people can work on a document simultaneously,  and all of this is
possible with Docs, is accessible, and it's
possible to use other real-time features, such as chat to discuss
various points with others who you are collaborating with, several can
make changes, and it's possible to review/edit all these changes as
they're occurring. Inserting, viewing, and editing comments are also
accessible. All of this and much more with Docs applies to documents
and spreadsheets.

It's a work in progress, with Google being very interested in
feedback/input, great open communication, and will soon have updates
addressing lots of areas, which includes new features, bug fixes, and
other items, which are based on feedback. Essentially, a great web
browser and access to standard/new versions of Docs, Calendar, and
Gmail are the great highlights.

Kevin

On 9/27/11, Orin  wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Just got Google Chrome and I'm loving it so far, Particularly the fast load
> times. Downloading the current stable version the first time, I noticed that
> Youtube links, when clicked on such as video links to switch videos were not
> working, and the "see all" links were not working either.
>
> Also, in preferences, the default is basics. How can I switch this? The
> Youtube thing can probably be changed with a preference. When I get time
> I'll install ChromeVox at some point, just seems like a lot of steps being
> that it's late now.
>
> Orin
> orin8...@gmail.com
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks
> Skype: orin1112
>
>
>
> On Sep 27, 2011, at 9:01 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
>
>> Google is very committed, understanding, and has done an incredible
>> job with accessibility. In particular, Chrome, ChromeVox (Chrome
>> extension), Apps (Docs [documents/spreadsheets], Calendar, and Gmail).
>> This package results in a very effective, efficient, powerful, and
>> top-notch productivity suite. All is needed is Chrome, ChromeVox, and
>> a Gmail/Apps ID. I've been using Google apps, especially
>> documents/spreadsheets for the last several days within Chrome and
>> ChromeVox extension and find it to be great.
>>
>> Please see below for all the links/details needed to get going with a
>> universally accessible, powerful, robust, and first-class productivity
>> suite.
>>
>> Google Chrome Canary (Mac web browser powering ChromeVox/Apps):
>> http://j.mp/oWZ7Of
>> Installing ChromeVox as a packed extension
>> http://j.mp/nmnNR5
>> ChromeVox User Guide:
>> http://t.co/b9ABBkv
>> Use Google Docs with a screen reader
>> http://goo.gl/cmeHV
>> Google accessibility feedback:
>> http://goo.gl/wePru
>>
>> FYI: new/standard UI/look/view is recommended and will work with
>> Chrome/ChromeVox.
>>
>> Kevin
>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
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Google Chrome Web Browser

[Kevin Chao]

Please, I would like to know if OS X Lion Voiceover users have tried
Google Chrome web browser? If so, what are people's experience with
it, especially the accessibility or inaccessibility of it. If there
are features or aspects that are very accessible or inaccessible,
please do share those details.

Thanks,

Kevin
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