RE: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
Generally electronics stores will turn on VoiceOver for you so that you can have a play. It might be worth going somewhere close if that is an option and checking out the IPad so that you can get a feel of what it is like with VO. Cheers Paula -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77 Sent: Friday, 15 November 2013 3:15 PM To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Oo! This is very interesting. I wonder what I'd actually think. Too bad I can't go get the feel of one with the screen reader running and so on. Take care, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Paula Hobley technological_gen...@paulahobley.com To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 7:45 PM Subject: RE: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Hi there I am totally blind and I have both. I use both for different things. I love using my IPad for reading, as the pages don't turn as often as they do on the phone, and the battery lasts a lot longer. I also use it for word processing when I'm out and about. I like the Bluetooth keyboard case for the IPad as everything just folds in on itself. I am not so fond of how the menus look in settings, I find it more difficult to conceptualise. I think it all comes down to personal preference. Cheers Paula -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Friday, 15 November 2013 11:16 AM To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' Subject: RE: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? As far as I can see there are no compelling reasons for a blind user to require an iPad in addition to an iPhone, apart from possible better battery life. The physical size of the iPad makes the onscreen keyboard larger but a cheap external Bluetooth keyboard on an iPhone will give a better keyboard experience anyway. If however, you have some useful vision then the situation is completely different and there are of course lots of advantages in having a bigger display area to look at. As I am not in that category nobody has ever been able to explain to me what advantage an iPad would have over an iPhone. At the margins there is apparently a version of Quick Office on the iPad which is accessible on that platform whilst it remains inaccessible on the iPhone. However Pages will meet most word processing needs and I do not routinely use Spreadsheets on a mobile device. So in essence the case for a blind user investing in an iPad in addition to a phone seem very tenuous to me. David Griffith David Griffith . -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77 Sent: 14 November 2013 23:40 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net
Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
I think the price comparison isn't quite correct here. The iPhone 5s costs £549, and I think I recall that the iPad air was £299 and £399 for the cellular version - Andy On 18 Nov 2013, at 02:34, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote: Actually, an iPhone is better than an iPad if you are Blind. Usually the processor and camera is better on the iPhone than it is on the iPad, and I'm not sure if the iPad has GPS built in. I have suggested that the best iPad costs as much as a new iPhone without a phone contract. So basically, I recommend that Blind folk get the iPhone from Apple and just don't take it in to be used as a phone. Sighted folk like the large display, but I have found the gestures harder on an iPad because of the large screen. Glenn - Original Message - From: meadowlark77 meadowlar...@cox.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:40 PM Subject: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
Brenda - I use my phone mostly in that way too, and will use it when on charge if I want too. It will be cheaper to get a replacement battery if it goes, than to buy a second device to conserve the kphone's battery - Andy On 16 Nov 2013, at 04:00, meadowlark77 meadowlar...@cox.net wrote: This is sure interesting. I love my iPhone, but figured, due to the battery life, which isn't long, and due to the fact that, I don't know, seriously if we can leave it on the charger, when we play books and the like, I had thought bout getting something else, to give my phone, which I use for more than a phone and only the hone, when I need to make calls, I figured I'd start asking around what people think. I love that phone, but mainly I use it for computing purposes of all kinds, and listening to radio stations and books and the like. Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 8:34 PM Subject: Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Actually, an iPhone is better than an iPad if you are Blind. Usually the processor and camera is better on the iPhone than it is on the iPad, and I'm not sure if the iPad has GPS built in. I have suggested that the best iPad costs as much as a new iPhone without a phone contract. So basically, I recommend that Blind folk get the iPhone from Apple and just don't take it in to be used as a phone. Sighted folk like the large display, but I have found the gestures harder on an iPad because of the large screen. Glenn - Original Message - From: meadowlark77 meadowlar...@cox.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:40 PM Subject: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure
Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
It depends on which iPad one gets. Glenn - Original Message - From: Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 4:16 AM Subject: Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? I think the price comparison isn't quite correct here. The iPhone 5s costs £549, and I think I recall that the iPad air was £299 and £399 for the cellular version - Andy On 18 Nov 2013, at 02:34, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote: Actually, an iPhone is better than an iPad if you are Blind. Usually the processor and camera is better on the iPhone than it is on the iPad, and I'm not sure if the iPad has GPS built in. I have suggested that the best iPad costs as much as a new iPhone without a phone contract. So basically, I recommend that Blind folk get the iPhone from Apple and just don't take it in to be used as a phone. Sighted folk like the large display, but I have found the gestures harder on an iPad because of the large screen. Glenn - Original Message - From: meadowlark77 meadowlar...@cox.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:40 PM Subject: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated
Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
Alright, then. Sounds good to me. That, I do believe, is how I'm going to go. Take care and thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 4:19 AM Subject: Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Brenda - I use my phone mostly in that way too, and will use it when on charge if I want too. It will be cheaper to get a replacement battery if it goes, than to buy a second device to conserve the kphone's battery - Andy On 16 Nov 2013, at 04:00, meadowlark77 meadowlar...@cox.net wrote: This is sure interesting. I love my iPhone, but figured, due to the battery life, which isn't long, and due to the fact that, I don't know, seriously if we can leave it on the charger, when we play books and the like, I had thought bout getting something else, to give my phone, which I use for more than a phone and only the hone, when I need to make calls, I figured I'd start asking around what people think. I love that phone, but mainly I use it for computing purposes of all kinds, and listening to radio stations and books and the like. Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 8:34 PM Subject: Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Actually, an iPhone is better than an iPad if you are Blind. Usually the processor and camera is better on the iPhone than it is on the iPad, and I'm not sure if the iPad has GPS built in. I have suggested that the best iPad costs as much as a new iPhone without a phone contract. So basically, I recommend that Blind folk get the iPhone from Apple and just don't take it in to be used as a phone. Sighted folk like the large display, but I have found the gestures harder on an iPad because of the large screen. Glenn - Original Message - From: meadowlark77 meadowlar...@cox.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:40 PM Subject: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated
Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
Brenda, Have you thought about getting a good battery backup for your phone rather than paying out huge money for another device? There are lots of options on the market and they are not too pricey. Sandy Sent from my iPhone On 16 Nov 2013, at 15:36, meadowlark77 meadowlar...@cox.net wrote: Alright, then. Sounds good to me. That, I do believe, is how I'm going to go. Take care and thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 4:19 AM Subject: Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Brenda - I use my phone mostly in that way too, and will use it when on charge if I want too. It will be cheaper to get a replacement battery if it goes, than to buy a second device to conserve the kphone's battery - Andy On 16 Nov 2013, at 04:00, meadowlark77 meadowlar...@cox.net wrote: This is sure interesting. I love my iPhone, but figured, due to the battery life, which isn't long, and due to the fact that, I don't know, seriously if we can leave it on the charger, when we play books and the like, I had thought bout getting something else, to give my phone, which I use for more than a phone and only the hone, when I need to make calls, I figured I'd start asking around what people think. I love that phone, but mainly I use it for computing purposes of all kinds, and listening to radio stations and books and the like. Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 8:34 PM Subject: Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Actually, an iPhone is better than an iPad if you are Blind. Usually the processor and camera is better on the iPhone than it is on the iPad, and I'm not sure if the iPad has GPS built in. I have suggested that the best iPad costs as much as a new iPhone without a phone contract. So basically, I recommend that Blind folk get the iPhone from Apple and just don't take it in to be used as a phone. Sighted folk like the large display, but I have found the gestures harder on an iPad because of the large screen. Glenn - Original Message - From: meadowlark77 meadowlar...@cox.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:40 PM Subject: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences
Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
I'd rather do that, I believe. Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 9:43 AM Subject: Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Brenda, Have you thought about getting a good battery backup for your phone rather than paying out huge money for another device? There are lots of options on the market and they are not too pricey. Sandy Sent from my iPhone On 16 Nov 2013, at 15:36, meadowlark77 meadowlar...@cox.net wrote: Alright, then. Sounds good to me. That, I do believe, is how I'm going to go. Take care and thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 4:19 AM Subject: Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Brenda - I use my phone mostly in that way too, and will use it when on charge if I want too. It will be cheaper to get a replacement battery if it goes, than to buy a second device to conserve the kphone's battery - Andy On 16 Nov 2013, at 04:00, meadowlark77 meadowlar...@cox.net wrote: This is sure interesting. I love my iPhone, but figured, due to the battery life, which isn't long, and due to the fact that, I don't know, seriously if we can leave it on the charger, when we play books and the like, I had thought bout getting something else, to give my phone, which I use for more than a phone and only the hone, when I need to make calls, I figured I'd start asking around what people think. I love that phone, but mainly I use it for computing purposes of all kinds, and listening to radio stations and books and the like. Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 8:34 PM Subject: Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Actually, an iPhone is better than an iPad if you are Blind. Usually the processor and camera is better on the iPhone than it is on the iPad, and I'm not sure if the iPad has GPS built in. I have suggested that the best iPad costs as much as a new iPhone without a phone contract. So basically, I recommend that Blind folk get the iPhone from Apple and just don't take it in to be used as a phone. Sighted folk like the large display, but I have found the gestures harder on an iPad because of the large screen. Glenn - Original Message - From: meadowlark77 meadowlar...@cox.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:40 PM Subject: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list
Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
I would guess in a lot of cases you don't even need an assistant to turn VO on for you when you are in a store. As long as the device on demonstration is connected to the Internet, just press and hold the home key, and ask Siri to turn on voice over - Andy On 15 Nov 2013, at 04:19, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Brenda, So, you don't have an Apple Store or a Mac store near you? How about a Best Buy? Staples? Even Walmart? Lots of stores are carrying iPads these days. And all you have to do is get someone to turn voice over on for you when you're in the store. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:15 PM, meadowlark77 meadowlar...@cox.net wrote: Oo! This is very interesting. I wonder what I'd actually think. Too bad I can't go get the feel of one with the screen reader running and so on. Take care, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Paula Hobley technological_gen...@paulahobley.com To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 7:45 PM Subject: RE: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Hi there I am totally blind and I have both. I use both for different things. I love using my IPad for reading, as the pages don't turn as often as they do on the phone, and the battery lasts a lot longer. I also use it for word processing when I'm out and about. I like the Bluetooth keyboard case for the IPad as everything just folds in on itself. I am not so fond of how the menus look in settings, I find it more difficult to conceptualise. I think it all comes down to personal preference. Cheers Paula -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Friday, 15 November 2013 11:16 AM To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' Subject: RE: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? As far as I can see there are no compelling reasons for a blind user to require an iPad in addition to an iPhone, apart from possible better battery life. The physical size of the iPad makes the onscreen keyboard larger but a cheap external Bluetooth keyboard on an iPhone will give a better keyboard experience anyway. If however, you have some useful vision then the situation is completely different and there are of course lots of advantages in having a bigger display area to look at. As I am not in that category nobody has ever been able to explain to me what advantage an iPad would have over an iPhone. At the margins there is apparently a version of Quick Office on the iPad which is accessible on that platform whilst it remains inaccessible on the iPhone. However Pages will meet most word processing needs and I do not routinely use Spreadsheets on a mobile device. So in essence the case for a blind user investing in an iPad in addition to a phone seem very tenuous to me. David Griffith David Griffith . -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77 Sent: 14 November 2013 23:40 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either
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Hi all, I have an iPad 3 and a beautiful iPhone 4S. I plan to use these 2 devices interchangeably with a braille display. I have cochlear implants and have some issues with continuly using artificial speech on both devices and mac and windows. I love my hearing ability, but I am so looking forward to working my devices quietly and preserving my listening abilities for conversations and phone conversations with family and friends. I am planning to use the services of Relay for businesses. I love the speaker on the iPad as it is a bit bigger than the iPhone, but I have my music on the iPad due to the fact that the speaker on it makes the sound of the music in lower tones than iPod touch. I like the iPhone for reading when I am out of the house. I usually don't take my iPad out the door. LOL! I also love reading on the iPad. Usually on both devices, I use the wonderfulness that is the Apple Wireless keyboard. I have the k800 Keyboard so I can use for both the iPhone and IPad. Yesterday I ordered a external battery power source which is very small and will give power to my iPhone when battery is running low. I got it through Verizon. Hugs and 73 Linda C. Knight shirley CallSign: kk4hrg Please note email: l...@tampabay.rr.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
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I wasn't going to jump in here until I read Best Buy. We have had only negative experiences at the Best Buy store in the Mall near us. In email groups of blind peple, it is known as Worst Buy, the place to avoid. They try to sell their own extended warranty, which isn't worth the paper it is written on. There is always an excuse why the problem isn't covered. For iProducts, the Apple warranty gets you in keeping with the company. You would not buy a Caddy and have it warranteed by Studebaker. WalMart, of course, if you can find an employee, they have no knowledge of what their electronic products are and how to work them, except maybe to turn a TV on and off. I read in one response about Pages on the iPad. We bought Pages for our Apple computers, and removed it from both Princess Linda's and my laptop. We use the text edidt and find that ooo much easier. She has the iPad, but does not hav the text edit on it. What for? Artie. From: Mary Otten November 14, 2013 11:19 PM Hi Brenda, So, you don't have an Apple Store or a Mac store near you? How about a Best Buy? Staples? Even Walmart? Lots of stores are carrying iPads these days. And all you have to do is get someone to turn voice over on for you when you're in the store. Mary --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
Yeah, it's a matter of me being able to afford one right now, and, right now, I cannot. Maybe before I leave the State for good, I might can, by that time. Take care and thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 6:50 AM Subject: Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Brenda I agree with your friend or acquaintance. I couldn't possibly use my iPhone as a computer. The battery would run out just from a few hours of using it constantly. I would use an iPad or iPad mini as a computer. Whether you actually need one though is of course up to you. But I know I would use the iPhone as a phone and pda and the iPad or iPad mini as a computer. Since I do not have such a device, I use a pc for its intended purpose. After all tablets like the iPad and iPad mini are designed to be used as a computer. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 14/11/2013 23:40, meadowlark77 wrote: Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ . --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
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Affordability is a factor definitely. I see the iPad mini, not iPad mini with retina, starts from £249 here in the UK. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 15/11/2013 14:53, meadowlark77 wrote: Yeah, it's a matter of me being able to afford one right now, and, right now, I cannot. Maybe before I leave the State for good, I might can, by that time. Take care and thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 6:50 AM Subject: Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Brenda I agree with your friend or acquaintance. I couldn't possibly use my iPhone as a computer. The battery would run out just from a few hours of using it constantly. I would use an iPad or iPad mini as a computer. Whether you actually need one though is of course up to you. But I know I would use the iPhone as a phone and pda and the iPad or iPad mini as a computer. Since I do not have such a device, I use a pc for its intended purpose. After all tablets like the iPad and iPad mini are designed to be used as a computer. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 14/11/2013 23:40, meadowlark77 wrote: Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ . --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft
RE: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
And, provided that they have Siri enabled. I've seen some displays where it wasn't, though it's very very rare. Chris. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 6:26 AM To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? I would guess in a lot of cases you don't even need an assistant to turn VO on for you when you are in a store. As long as the device on demonstration is connected to the Internet, just press and hold the home key, and ask Siri to turn on voice over - Andy On 15 Nov 2013, at 04:19, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Brenda, So, you don't have an Apple Store or a Mac store near you? How about a Best Buy? Staples? Even Walmart? Lots of stores are carrying iPads these days. And all you have to do is get someone to turn voice over on for you when you're in the store. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:15 PM, meadowlark77 meadowlar...@cox.net wrote: Oo! This is very interesting. I wonder what I'd actually think. Too bad I can't go get the feel of one with the screen reader running and so on. Take care, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Paula Hobley technological_gen...@paulahobley.com To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 7:45 PM Subject: RE: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Hi there I am totally blind and I have both. I use both for different things. I love using my IPad for reading, as the pages don't turn as often as they do on the phone, and the battery lasts a lot longer. I also use it for word processing when I'm out and about. I like the Bluetooth keyboard case for the IPad as everything just folds in on itself. I am not so fond of how the menus look in settings, I find it more difficult to conceptualise. I think it all comes down to personal preference. Cheers Paula -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Friday, 15 November 2013 11:16 AM To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' Subject: RE: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? As far as I can see there are no compelling reasons for a blind user to require an iPad in addition to an iPhone, apart from possible better battery life. The physical size of the iPad makes the onscreen keyboard larger but a cheap external Bluetooth keyboard on an iPhone will give a better keyboard experience anyway. If however, you have some useful vision then the situation is completely different and there are of course lots of advantages in having a bigger display area to look at. As I am not in that category nobody has ever been able to explain to me what advantage an iPad would have over an iPhone. At the margins there is apparently a version of Quick Office on the iPad which is accessible on that platform whilst it remains inaccessible on the iPhone. However Pages will meet most word processing needs and I do not routinely use Spreadsheets on a mobile device. So in essence the case for a blind user investing in an iPad in addition to a phone seem very tenuous to me. David Griffith David Griffith . -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77 Sent: 14 November 2013 23:40 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember
RE: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
Quick office is now accessible? Wo baby! Since when did that happen! Chris. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:25 PM To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? I also have no vision, but I'm glad I have an iPad, and am planning to get a mini. I use my i-devices for so much, that I would not want to depend on just the one phone. There's audible, Kindle iBooks. And those are just the reading things. There is Twitter, email, and some wordprocessing. In fact, I would be interested in knowing more about the accessible version of quick office for iPad. This is the first I've heard of that. In some cases, apps will look and perform differently on the two devices. For instance, with websites, on the iPad, you get the regular website. On the phone, you get the mobile site. Some apps are laid out differently. For example, there is the settings app. On the iPad, you have everything down the left for categories, and on the right as a category gets focused, you have all the choices. So you don't have to move back and forward between so many screens. Occasionally, an app will be more accessible on one platform or the other. For example, the site app had been perfectly accessible on the iPad, while on the phone it was not. Sadly this is no longer the case. If you like things like Netflix, the sound on the iPad being stereo, is better than it is on the phone. I myself find that app difficult to use, so I don't go there. But others do. But the biggest reason is simply that I don't think I could do a day on an iPhone if I had to just use that device. The battery would run out too soon. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 14, 2013, at 4:16 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: As far as I can see there are no compelling reasons for a blind user to require an iPad in addition to an iPhone, apart from possible better battery life. The physical size of the iPad makes the onscreen keyboard larger but a cheap external Bluetooth keyboard on an iPhone will give a better keyboard experience anyway. If however, you have some useful vision then the situation is completely different and there are of course lots of advantages in having a bigger display area to look at. As I am not in that category nobody has ever been able to explain to me what advantage an iPad would have over an iPhone. At the margins there is apparently a version of Quick Office on the iPad which is accessible on that platform whilst it remains inaccessible on the iPhone. However Pages will meet most word processing needs and I do not routinely use Spreadsheets on a mobile device. So in essence the case for a blind user investing in an iPad in addition to a phone seem very tenuous to me. David Griffith David Griffith . -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77 Sent: 14 November 2013 23:40 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk
Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
Hello, I have a developmentally delayed daughter, and once I got familiar and savvy with my iPhone, I began to wonder if an iPad, with all the special ed apps available, would be of help to her. It has been most definitely, but for me, the iPad was not a fun learning experience. It, to me, was far harder than the iPhone, mostly because of the larger screen real estate and the fact that if I opened settings for example and then opened general, the main settings window was on the left side and the options in general are on the right. I have a couple of my favorite apps on my daugher’s iPad, but I used it only to learn. My iPhone is my iOS device of choice. The iPad app store was the hardest thing about the whole experience, learning it made me cry in utter frustration. I’m glad I learned it and my daughter loves it, but IMO, I did a lot better with it having learned the iPHone first. Just my 1.5 cents worth. Shannon --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
What actually is the retina bit of the iPads anyway? Is that about Face Time? - Andy On 15 Nov 2013, at 15:26, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Affordability is a factor definitely. I see the iPad mini, not iPad mini with retina, starts from £249 here in the UK. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 15/11/2013 14:53, meadowlark77 wrote: Yeah, it's a matter of me being able to afford one right now, and, right now, I cannot. Maybe before I leave the State for good, I might can, by that time. Take care and thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 6:50 AM Subject: Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Brenda I agree with your friend or acquaintance. I couldn't possibly use my iPhone as a computer. The battery would run out just from a few hours of using it constantly. I would use an iPad or iPad mini as a computer. Whether you actually need one though is of course up to you. But I know I would use the iPhone as a phone and pda and the iPad or iPad mini as a computer. Since I do not have such a device, I use a pc for its intended purpose. After all tablets like the iPad and iPad mini are designed to be used as a computer. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 14/11/2013 23:40, meadowlark77 wrote: Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ . --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options
RE: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
So I was told by somebody using an iPad at the RNIB. Based on his recommendation I purchased it for my iPhone but found it unusable. He maintains that it is accessible on his iPad, which appears supported by others, so we concluded that the app is inaccessible on an iPhone but accessible on an iPad. He maintains he can use it by using straightforward Voiceover commands. I have no direct experience of using it on an iPad however. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: 15 November 2013 15:44 To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' Subject: RE: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Quick office is now accessible? Wo baby! Since when did that happen! Chris. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:25 PM To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? I also have no vision, but I'm glad I have an iPad, and am planning to get a mini. I use my i-devices for so much, that I would not want to depend on just the one phone. There's audible, Kindle iBooks. And those are just the reading things. There is Twitter, email, and some wordprocessing. In fact, I would be interested in knowing more about the accessible version of quick office for iPad. This is the first I've heard of that. In some cases, apps will look and perform differently on the two devices. For instance, with websites, on the iPad, you get the regular website. On the phone, you get the mobile site. Some apps are laid out differently. For example, there is the settings app. On the iPad, you have everything down the left for categories, and on the right as a category gets focused, you have all the choices. So you don't have to move back and forward between so many screens. Occasionally, an app will be more accessible on one platform or the other. For example, the site app had been perfectly accessible on the iPad, while on the phone it was not. Sadly this is no longer the case. If you like things like Netflix, the sound on the iPad being stereo, is better than it is on the phone. I myself find that app difficult to use, so I don't go there. But others do. But the biggest reason is simply that I don't think I could do a day on an iPhone if I had to just use that device. The battery would run out too soon. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 14, 2013, at 4:16 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: As far as I can see there are no compelling reasons for a blind user to require an iPad in addition to an iPhone, apart from possible better battery life. The physical size of the iPad makes the onscreen keyboard larger but a cheap external Bluetooth keyboard on an iPhone will give a better keyboard experience anyway. If however, you have some useful vision then the situation is completely different and there are of course lots of advantages in having a bigger display area to look at. As I am not in that category nobody has ever been able to explain to me what advantage an iPad would have over an iPhone. At the margins there is apparently a version of Quick Office on the iPad which is accessible on that platform whilst it remains inaccessible on the iPhone. However Pages will meet most word processing needs and I do not routinely use Spreadsheets on a mobile device. So in essence the case for a blind user investing in an iPad in addition to a phone seem very tenuous to me. David Griffith David Griffith . -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77 Sent: 14 November 2013 23:40 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best
Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
No it's to produce high resolution graphics. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 15/11/2013 16:25, Andy Collins wrote: What actually is the retina bit of the iPads anyway? Is that about Face Time? - Andy On 15 Nov 2013, at 15:26, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Affordability is a factor definitely. I see the iPad mini, not iPad mini with retina, starts from £249 here in the UK. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 15/11/2013 14:53, meadowlark77 wrote: Yeah, it's a matter of me being able to afford one right now, and, right now, I cannot. Maybe before I leave the State for good, I might can, by that time. Take care and thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 6:50 AM Subject: Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Brenda I agree with your friend or acquaintance. I couldn't possibly use my iPhone as a computer. The battery would run out just from a few hours of using it constantly. I would use an iPad or iPad mini as a computer. Whether you actually need one though is of course up to you. But I know I would use the iPhone as a phone and pda and the iPad or iPad mini as a computer. Since I do not have such a device, I use a pc for its intended purpose. After all tablets like the iPad and iPad mini are designed to be used as a computer. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 14/11/2013 23:40, meadowlark77 wrote: Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ . --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman
Quick office for IPad, was: RE: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
This isn't altogether true about it being accessible on the IPad. First off, when I downloaded it, it told me it was free, and even upon openning the app, it says this free app let's you open and edit/compose Microsoft Office documents. It seems to go through Google docks, as it made me sign in with my Google account. Once in, I noticed that Voiceover was ever so slightly sluggish in places. I also noticed that it creates a folder with my name apparently up in the Google cloud. I can't delete that folder, or it signs me completely out of my Google account. I can't even delete any files. I managed to create an entire folder, then was able to delete it, but as far as deleting individual files, I couldn't find any way to do this, and believe me, I am a very experienced Voiceover I O S user, and I spent almost half an hour with the thing trying to figure out how to do it. Finally, both with, and without a bluetooth keyboard, I tried composing and editting a text file. I noticed that back spacing/deleting characters as well as arrowing around the document area with the bluetooth keyboard was not only sluggish, but sometimes hitting the delete key would say nothing, while other times it told me a character it was deleting, but was usually about 3 or 4 characters behind on what verbally was spoken vs. what it literally was deleting. I know this as when on invert colors, I had barely just enough vision to see this. It's one of these things, some screens I can read without Voiceover if invert colors is turned on, but I can't do it for any more than about a minute and a half, or my head starts hurting, as I have to really really strain to see it. Yeah, I know about zoom, That's a whole different e-mail, but it's not practical for me. So, yeah, I'd say this ap really isn't quite as accessible as people say it is. Maybe I'm missing something, but, yeah... Chris. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
When you say $530 for the Air, what capassity are you speaking of, and are we talking wifi only, or are we talking with cellular service? Chris. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77 Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 11:08 AM To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Here it is $369.99. I gotta wait for another month or two. The iPad Air is $530. Take care, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 9:26 AM Subject: Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Affordability is a factor definitely. I see the iPad mini, not iPad mini with retina, starts from £249 here in the UK. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 15/11/2013 14:53, meadowlark77 wrote: Yeah, it's a matter of me being able to afford one right now, and, right now, I cannot. Maybe before I leave the State for good, I might can, by that time. Take care and thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 6:50 AM Subject: Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Brenda I agree with your friend or acquaintance. I couldn't possibly use my iPhone as a computer. The battery would run out just from a few hours of using it constantly. I would use an iPad or iPad mini as a computer. Whether you actually need one though is of course up to you. But I know I would use the iPhone as a phone and pda and the iPad or iPad mini as a computer. Since I do not have such a device, I use a pc for its intended purpose. After all tablets like the iPad and iPad mini are designed to be used as a computer. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 14/11/2013 23:40, meadowlark77 wrote: Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ . --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe
Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
Actually, an iPhone is better than an iPad if you are Blind. Usually the processor and camera is better on the iPhone than it is on the iPad, and I'm not sure if the iPad has GPS built in. I have suggested that the best iPad costs as much as a new iPhone without a phone contract. So basically, I recommend that Blind folk get the iPhone from Apple and just don't take it in to be used as a phone. Sighted folk like the large display, but I have found the gestures harder on an iPad because of the large screen. Glenn - Original Message - From: meadowlark77 meadowlar...@cox.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:40 PM Subject: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
I don't know what the capacity is, but it's both wifi and cellular. Take care, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 12:34 PM Subject: RE: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? When you say $530 for the Air, what capassity are you speaking of, and are we talking wifi only, or are we talking with cellular service? Chris. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77 Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 11:08 AM To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Here it is $369.99. I gotta wait for another month or two. The iPad Air is $530. Take care, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 9:26 AM Subject: Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Affordability is a factor definitely. I see the iPad mini, not iPad mini with retina, starts from £249 here in the UK. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 15/11/2013 14:53, meadowlark77 wrote: Yeah, it's a matter of me being able to afford one right now, and, right now, I cannot. Maybe before I leave the State for good, I might can, by that time. Take care and thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 6:50 AM Subject: Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Brenda I agree with your friend or acquaintance. I couldn't possibly use my iPhone as a computer. The battery would run out just from a few hours of using it constantly. I would use an iPad or iPad mini as a computer. Whether you actually need one though is of course up to you. But I know I would use the iPhone as a phone and pda and the iPad or iPad mini as a computer. Since I do not have such a device, I use a pc for its intended purpose. After all tablets like the iPad and iPad mini are designed to be used as a computer. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 14/11/2013 23:40, meadowlark77 wrote: Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ . --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please
Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
This is sure interesting. I love my iPhone, but figured, due to the battery life, which isn't long, and due to the fact that, I don't know, seriously if we can leave it on the charger, when we play books and the like, I had thought bout getting something else, to give my phone, which I use for more than a phone and only the hone, when I need to make calls, I figured I'd start asking around what people think. I love that phone, but mainly I use it for computing purposes of all kinds, and listening to radio stations and books and the like. Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 8:34 PM Subject: Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Actually, an iPhone is better than an iPad if you are Blind. Usually the processor and camera is better on the iPhone than it is on the iPad, and I'm not sure if the iPad has GPS built in. I have suggested that the best iPad costs as much as a new iPhone without a phone contract. So basically, I recommend that Blind folk get the iPhone from Apple and just don't take it in to be used as a phone. Sighted folk like the large display, but I have found the gestures harder on an iPad because of the large screen. Glenn - Original Message - From: meadowlark77 meadowlar...@cox.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:40 PM Subject: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
As far as I can see there are no compelling reasons for a blind user to require an iPad in addition to an iPhone, apart from possible better battery life. The physical size of the iPad makes the onscreen keyboard larger but a cheap external Bluetooth keyboard on an iPhone will give a better keyboard experience anyway. If however, you have some useful vision then the situation is completely different and there are of course lots of advantages in having a bigger display area to look at. As I am not in that category nobody has ever been able to explain to me what advantage an iPad would have over an iPhone. At the margins there is apparently a version of Quick Office on the iPad which is accessible on that platform whilst it remains inaccessible on the iPhone. However Pages will meet most word processing needs and I do not routinely use Spreadsheets on a mobile device. So in essence the case for a blind user investing in an iPad in addition to a phone seem very tenuous to me. David Griffith David Griffith . -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77 Sent: 14 November 2013 23:40 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
In my oppinion I don't see a difference between the iPhone and iPad because the iPhone and iPad have almost the same features The only difference about the iPad is that it is bigger and it has a larger screen it doesn't have the phone option -Original Message- From: meadowlark77 Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:40 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
Thank you, David. I, like you, have no vision. Think it'd be better for me to just go and buy pages, instead, for a word processor. That's the only thing I probably do not have, that I'd like. Take care, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:16 PM Subject: RE: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? As far as I can see there are no compelling reasons for a blind user to require an iPad in addition to an iPhone, apart from possible better battery life. The physical size of the iPad makes the onscreen keyboard larger but a cheap external Bluetooth keyboard on an iPhone will give a better keyboard experience anyway. If however, you have some useful vision then the situation is completely different and there are of course lots of advantages in having a bigger display area to look at. As I am not in that category nobody has ever been able to explain to me what advantage an iPad would have over an iPhone. At the margins there is apparently a version of Quick Office on the iPad which is accessible on that platform whilst it remains inaccessible on the iPhone. However Pages will meet most word processing needs and I do not routinely use Spreadsheets on a mobile device. So in essence the case for a blind user investing in an iPad in addition to a phone seem very tenuous to me. David Griffith David Griffith . -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77 Sent: 14 November 2013 23:40 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility
Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
Actually, it does. You can get it to be cellular or wifi. But the rate I'm getting here, I'm happy just to have my iPhone and not having to buy another something. Take care, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:57 PM Subject: Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? In my oppinion I don't see a difference between the iPhone and iPad because the iPhone and iPad have almost the same features The only difference about the iPad is that it is bigger and it has a larger screen it doesn't have the phone option -Original Message- From: meadowlark77 Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:40 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
I also have no vision, but I'm glad I have an iPad, and am planning to get a mini. I use my i-devices for so much, that I would not want to depend on just the one phone. There's audible, Kindle iBooks. And those are just the reading things. There is Twitter, email, and some wordprocessing. In fact, I would be interested in knowing more about the accessible version of quick office for iPad. This is the first I've heard of that. In some cases, apps will look and perform differently on the two devices. For instance, with websites, on the iPad, you get the regular website. On the phone, you get the mobile site. Some apps are laid out differently. For example, there is the settings app. On the iPad, you have everything down the left for categories, and on the right as a category gets focused, you have all the choices. So you don't have to move back and forward between so many screens. Occasionally, an app will be more accessible on one platform or the other. For example, the site app had been perfectly accessible on the iPad, while on the phone it was not. Sadly this is no longer the case. If you like things like Netflix, the sound on the iPad being stereo, is better than it is on the phone. I myself find that app difficult to use, so I don't go there. But others do. But the biggest reason is simply that I don't think I could do a day on an iPhone if I had to just use that device. The battery would run out too soon. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 14, 2013, at 4:16 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: As far as I can see there are no compelling reasons for a blind user to require an iPad in addition to an iPhone, apart from possible better battery life. The physical size of the iPad makes the onscreen keyboard larger but a cheap external Bluetooth keyboard on an iPhone will give a better keyboard experience anyway. If however, you have some useful vision then the situation is completely different and there are of course lots of advantages in having a bigger display area to look at. As I am not in that category nobody has ever been able to explain to me what advantage an iPad would have over an iPhone. At the margins there is apparently a version of Quick Office on the iPad which is accessible on that platform whilst it remains inaccessible on the iPhone. However Pages will meet most word processing needs and I do not routinely use Spreadsheets on a mobile device. So in essence the case for a blind user investing in an iPad in addition to a phone seem very tenuous to me. David Griffith David Griffith . -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77 Sent: 14 November 2013 23:40 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac
RE: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
Hi there I am totally blind and I have both. I use both for different things. I love using my IPad for reading, as the pages don't turn as often as they do on the phone, and the battery lasts a lot longer. I also use it for word processing when I'm out and about. I like the Bluetooth keyboard case for the IPad as everything just folds in on itself. I am not so fond of how the menus look in settings, I find it more difficult to conceptualise. I think it all comes down to personal preference. Cheers Paula -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Friday, 15 November 2013 11:16 AM To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' Subject: RE: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? As far as I can see there are no compelling reasons for a blind user to require an iPad in addition to an iPhone, apart from possible better battery life. The physical size of the iPad makes the onscreen keyboard larger but a cheap external Bluetooth keyboard on an iPhone will give a better keyboard experience anyway. If however, you have some useful vision then the situation is completely different and there are of course lots of advantages in having a bigger display area to look at. As I am not in that category nobody has ever been able to explain to me what advantage an iPad would have over an iPhone. At the margins there is apparently a version of Quick Office on the iPad which is accessible on that platform whilst it remains inaccessible on the iPhone. However Pages will meet most word processing needs and I do not routinely use Spreadsheets on a mobile device. So in essence the case for a blind user investing in an iPad in addition to a phone seem very tenuous to me. David Griffith David Griffith . -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77 Sent: 14 November 2013 23:40 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac
Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
I also like having an IPHone and iPad mini. It gives one device a rest at times lol. Also certain things work better on one over the other. It just gives a nice change of pace at times. On Nov 14, 2013, at 7:24 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: I also have no vision, but I'm glad I have an iPad, and am planning to get a mini. I use my i-devices for so much, that I would not want to depend on just the one phone. There's audible, Kindle iBooks. And those are just the reading things. There is Twitter, email, and some wordprocessing. In fact, I would be interested in knowing more about the accessible version of quick office for iPad. This is the first I've heard of that. In some cases, apps will look and perform differently on the two devices. For instance, with websites, on the iPad, you get the regular website. On the phone, you get the mobile site. Some apps are laid out differently. For example, there is the settings app. On the iPad, you have everything down the left for categories, and on the right as a category gets focused, you have all the choices. So you don't have to move back and forward between so many screens. Occasionally, an app will be more accessible on one platform or the other. For example, the site app had been perfectly accessible on the iPad, while on the phone it was not. Sadly this is no longer the case. If you like things like Netflix, the sound on the iPad being stereo, is better than it is on the phone. I myself find that app difficult to use, so I don't go there. But others do. But the biggest reason is simply that I don't think I could do a day on an iPhone if I had to just use that device. The battery would run out too soon. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 14, 2013, at 4:16 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: As far as I can see there are no compelling reasons for a blind user to require an iPad in addition to an iPhone, apart from possible better battery life. The physical size of the iPad makes the onscreen keyboard larger but a cheap external Bluetooth keyboard on an iPhone will give a better keyboard experience anyway. If however, you have some useful vision then the situation is completely different and there are of course lots of advantages in having a bigger display area to look at. As I am not in that category nobody has ever been able to explain to me what advantage an iPad would have over an iPhone. At the margins there is apparently a version of Quick Office on the iPad which is accessible on that platform whilst it remains inaccessible on the iPhone. However Pages will meet most word processing needs and I do not routinely use Spreadsheets on a mobile device. So in essence the case for a blind user investing in an iPad in addition to a phone seem very tenuous to me. David Griffith David Griffith . -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77 Sent: 14 November 2013 23:40 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html
Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
Yeah, the batttery does run out quickly on the iPhone. I love my iPhone. Thanks for your explanation, though. Take care, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 7:24 PM Subject: Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? I also have no vision, but I'm glad I have an iPad, and am planning to get a mini. I use my i-devices for so much, that I would not want to depend on just the one phone. There's audible, Kindle iBooks. And those are just the reading things. There is Twitter, email, and some wordprocessing. In fact, I would be interested in knowing more about the accessible version of quick office for iPad. This is the first I've heard of that. In some cases, apps will look and perform differently on the two devices. For instance, with websites, on the iPad, you get the regular website. On the phone, you get the mobile site. Some apps are laid out differently. For example, there is the settings app. On the iPad, you have everything down the left for categories, and on the right as a category gets focused, you have all the choices. So you don't have to move back and forward between so many screens. Occasionally, an app will be more accessible on one platform or the other. For example, the site app had been perfectly accessible on the iPad, while on the phone it was not. Sadly this is no longer the case. If you like things like Netflix, the sound on the iPad being stereo, is better than it is on the phone. I myself find that app difficult to use, so I don't go there. But others do. But the biggest reason is simply that I don't think I could do a day on an iPhone if I had to just use that device. The battery would run out too soon. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 14, 2013, at 4:16 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: As far as I can see there are no compelling reasons for a blind user to require an iPad in addition to an iPhone, apart from possible better battery life. The physical size of the iPad makes the onscreen keyboard larger but a cheap external Bluetooth keyboard on an iPhone will give a better keyboard experience anyway. If however, you have some useful vision then the situation is completely different and there are of course lots of advantages in having a bigger display area to look at. As I am not in that category nobody has ever been able to explain to me what advantage an iPad would have over an iPhone. At the margins there is apparently a version of Quick Office on the iPad which is accessible on that platform whilst it remains inaccessible on the iPhone. However Pages will meet most word processing needs and I do not routinely use Spreadsheets on a mobile device. So in essence the case for a blind user investing in an iPad in addition to a phone seem very tenuous to me. David Griffith David Griffith . -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77 Sent: 14 November 2013 23:40 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own
Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
Oo! This is very interesting. I wonder what I'd actually think. Too bad I can't go get the feel of one with the screen reader running and so on. Take care, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Paula Hobley technological_gen...@paulahobley.com To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 7:45 PM Subject: RE: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Hi there I am totally blind and I have both. I use both for different things. I love using my IPad for reading, as the pages don't turn as often as they do on the phone, and the battery lasts a lot longer. I also use it for word processing when I'm out and about. I like the Bluetooth keyboard case for the IPad as everything just folds in on itself. I am not so fond of how the menus look in settings, I find it more difficult to conceptualise. I think it all comes down to personal preference. Cheers Paula -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Friday, 15 November 2013 11:16 AM To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' Subject: RE: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? As far as I can see there are no compelling reasons for a blind user to require an iPad in addition to an iPhone, apart from possible better battery life. The physical size of the iPad makes the onscreen keyboard larger but a cheap external Bluetooth keyboard on an iPhone will give a better keyboard experience anyway. If however, you have some useful vision then the situation is completely different and there are of course lots of advantages in having a bigger display area to look at. As I am not in that category nobody has ever been able to explain to me what advantage an iPad would have over an iPhone. At the margins there is apparently a version of Quick Office on the iPad which is accessible on that platform whilst it remains inaccessible on the iPhone. However Pages will meet most word processing needs and I do not routinely use Spreadsheets on a mobile device. So in essence the case for a blind user investing in an iPad in addition to a phone seem very tenuous to me. David Griffith David Griffith . -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77 Sent: 14 November 2013 23:40 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net
Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
Hi Brenda, So, you don't have an Apple Store or a Mac store near you? How about a Best Buy? Staples? Even Walmart? Lots of stores are carrying iPads these days. And all you have to do is get someone to turn voice over on for you when you're in the store. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:15 PM, meadowlark77 meadowlar...@cox.net wrote: Oo! This is very interesting. I wonder what I'd actually think. Too bad I can't go get the feel of one with the screen reader running and so on. Take care, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Paula Hobley technological_gen...@paulahobley.com To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 7:45 PM Subject: RE: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Hi there I am totally blind and I have both. I use both for different things. I love using my IPad for reading, as the pages don't turn as often as they do on the phone, and the battery lasts a lot longer. I also use it for word processing when I'm out and about. I like the Bluetooth keyboard case for the IPad as everything just folds in on itself. I am not so fond of how the menus look in settings, I find it more difficult to conceptualise. I think it all comes down to personal preference. Cheers Paula -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Friday, 15 November 2013 11:16 AM To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' Subject: RE: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? As far as I can see there are no compelling reasons for a blind user to require an iPad in addition to an iPhone, apart from possible better battery life. The physical size of the iPad makes the onscreen keyboard larger but a cheap external Bluetooth keyboard on an iPhone will give a better keyboard experience anyway. If however, you have some useful vision then the situation is completely different and there are of course lots of advantages in having a bigger display area to look at. As I am not in that category nobody has ever been able to explain to me what advantage an iPad would have over an iPhone. At the margins there is apparently a version of Quick Office on the iPad which is accessible on that platform whilst it remains inaccessible on the iPhone. However Pages will meet most word processing needs and I do not routinely use Spreadsheets on a mobile device. So in essence the case for a blind user investing in an iPad in addition to a phone seem very tenuous to me. David Griffith David Griffith . -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77 Sent: 14 November 2013 23:40 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do
Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
My Apple Store is about 45 minutes from here, but Verizon and Wal-Mart are right down the road from here. I saw an iPad in Verizon theother day, but I didn ot get them to turn VoiceOver on. I looked at the iPad, Mini, the iPad, regular size and the iPad Air, but did not get them to turn it on. I couldn't afford the price then. I'm actually asking for a friend of mine, too, abot all this. Are the iPads at a good volume? I know the iPhones are louder than the iPods, for example. What about the iPads? Thanks in advance, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:19 PM Subject: Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Hi Brenda, So, you don't have an Apple Store or a Mac store near you? How about a Best Buy? Staples? Even Walmart? Lots of stores are carrying iPads these days. And all you have to do is get someone to turn voice over on for you when you're in the store. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:15 PM, meadowlark77 meadowlar...@cox.net wrote: Oo! This is very interesting. I wonder what I'd actually think. Too bad I can't go get the feel of one with the screen reader running and so on. Take care, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Paula Hobley technological_gen...@paulahobley.com To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 7:45 PM Subject: RE: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Hi there I am totally blind and I have both. I use both for different things. I love using my IPad for reading, as the pages don't turn as often as they do on the phone, and the battery lasts a lot longer. I also use it for word processing when I'm out and about. I like the Bluetooth keyboard case for the IPad as everything just folds in on itself. I am not so fond of how the menus look in settings, I find it more difficult to conceptualise. I think it all comes down to personal preference. Cheers Paula -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Friday, 15 November 2013 11:16 AM To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' Subject: RE: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? As far as I can see there are no compelling reasons for a blind user to require an iPad in addition to an iPhone, apart from possible better battery life. The physical size of the iPad makes the onscreen keyboard larger but a cheap external Bluetooth keyboard on an iPhone will give a better keyboard experience anyway. If however, you have some useful vision then the situation is completely different and there are of course lots of advantages in having a bigger display area to look at. As I am not in that category nobody has ever been able to explain to me what advantage an iPad would have over an iPhone. At the margins there is apparently a version of Quick Office on the iPad which is accessible on that platform whilst it remains inaccessible on the iPhone. However Pages will meet most word processing needs and I do not routinely use Spreadsheets on a mobile device. So in essence the case for a blind user investing in an iPad in addition to a phone seem very tenuous to me. David Griffith David Griffith . -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77 Sent: 14 November 2013 23:40 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so on. Their reply was, you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your phone like that. But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between the iPad and the iPhone 5? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor
