[Mac-access]: does any one know how i can get my keyboard back to the default vobersiy
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Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac
Yeah. Neh. You'll be fine. I'm not saying you won't! have to enable the midi capability, but most likely you won't. Chris. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac Ah okay, I thought a menu option had to be set on the synth itself to enable the MIDI interface. As for the sound from the Synth? The MX49 is not equipped with internal speakers so no problem there smile. On 5/04/2015 11:55 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Not really, Dane. The only thing really that you may have to really do in the keyboard menus would be to turn off local mode. and even that's technically optional. In the meantime, if you dont' want to hear things out of sync coming out the keyboard's audio output, just turn the volume of the keyboard all the way down with it's master volume control. I mean, ok, you might have to go in to the thing and enable the USB midi portion of it, although I've never ever in all keyboard/digital piano/controllers ever seen the need to do this, so you should be just fine. When I referred to setting your input and output, I was talking about setting that on the midi track within Garageband or whatever itself on the software side. You shouldn't need sighted help for that. That's something Voiceover should deal with no problems. Chris. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac Yep, I gathered I had to set something and I'm going to have to get some sighted assistance to go through the menu system to find that but again, all detailed in the manual if details are required, thanks again. On 5/04/2015 11:09 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Dane, as I said in my e-mail, that's perfect. That will work flawlessly. Just plug the cord from the keyboard to your USB port, and boom. You're done. Obviously, you'll have to go into GB or whatever and set your midi in and out device to your keyboard/controller, but that's easy enough to do. Chris. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac What you said wasn't too detailed, its exactly how MIDI works, even the manual of my Yamaha MX49 says nearly as much as you've said, enough for the user to know - if they could be bothered reading the Introduction to the user manual - that output of sound from the keyboard and MIDI I/O are 2 different things, as you say MIDI is a controlling interface. Now this brings me to a question regarding my MX49 which I've been meaning to get going for the last 3 months, you know how it is, gets put on the list of 50,000 other things that have to be done in the next 10 years smile, is the USB port for MIDI access the same as the MIDI I/O 5 Pin Din ports on the machine, can I use the supplied USB cable that came with the synth for all MIDI controls or do I need to purchase an adapter. Just to simplify things, I plan to be using this keyboard on the Mac with garage Band. On 5/04/2015 9:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Sorry for being so detailed. I just wanted to be sure that you understood. You said you wanted to use the built in sounds. A lot of people don't understand that midi in and of itself won't produce sounds out the keyboard. I have a real bad habbit of doing this and giving far more detail than necessary, guilty as charged, but I would have hated for you to have gotten an answer, then wonderred why just simply plugging a midi cable or whatever in wasn't working. Pardon the novel-writing. Did you get anything helpful though out of my message? I hope so? Chris. - Original Message - From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac Well, goodness. I didn’t mean anything that detailed. I simply want a program that uses pure midi, can export and import midi, and could optionally save the midi as mp3. I’ve heard that GarageBand on OS X 10.10 is inaccessible in some ways, so I simply want a simple, easily learned and accessible editor that’ll work with midi so that I can just play using the keyboard. I have now, like in the last hour, gone through the keyboard’s array of sounds and found them a little low quality, the keyboard is an older model, so I may just play using the keyboard then export to mp3 or something then all the tracks are good and all, so that’s what I want to do. On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Christopher-Mark
Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac
Dane, as I said in my e-mail, that's perfect. That will work flawlessly. Just plug the cord from the keyboard to your USB port, and boom. You're done. Obviously, you'll have to go into GB or whatever and set your midi in and out device to your keyboard/controller, but that's easy enough to do. Chris. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac What you said wasn't too detailed, its exactly how MIDI works, even the manual of my Yamaha MX49 says nearly as much as you've said, enough for the user to know - if they could be bothered reading the Introduction to the user manual - that output of sound from the keyboard and MIDI I/O are 2 different things, as you say MIDI is a controlling interface. Now this brings me to a question regarding my MX49 which I've been meaning to get going for the last 3 months, you know how it is, gets put on the list of 50,000 other things that have to be done in the next 10 years smile, is the USB port for MIDI access the same as the MIDI I/O 5 Pin Din ports on the machine, can I use the supplied USB cable that came with the synth for all MIDI controls or do I need to purchase an adapter. Just to simplify things, I plan to be using this keyboard on the Mac with garage Band. On 5/04/2015 9:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Sorry for being so detailed. I just wanted to be sure that you understood. You said you wanted to use the built in sounds. A lot of people don't understand that midi in and of itself won't produce sounds out the keyboard. I have a real bad habbit of doing this and giving far more detail than necessary, guilty as charged, but I would have hated for you to have gotten an answer, then wonderred why just simply plugging a midi cable or whatever in wasn't working. Pardon the novel-writing. Did you get anything helpful though out of my message? I hope so? Chris. - Original Message - From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac Well, goodness. I didn’t mean anything that detailed. I simply want a program that uses pure midi, can export and import midi, and could optionally save the midi as mp3. I’ve heard that GarageBand on OS X 10.10 is inaccessible in some ways, so I simply want a simple, easily learned and accessible editor that’ll work with midi so that I can just play using the keyboard. I have now, like in the last hour, gone through the keyboard’s array of sounds and found them a little low quality, the keyboard is an older model, so I may just play using the keyboard then export to mp3 or something then all the tracks are good and all, so that’s what I want to do. On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: You're talking two totally different things here. Let's get one thing totally straight. Midi isn't audio. All that midi basically is are different numerical values for certain triggered events, with 1's and 0's attached to it. Basically 0 means the event is off, while 1 means it is on. Every single thing you do with the keyboard is associated with a midi event, as they are called. I understand this isn't what you're asking, but to answer your question, I have to define this, so you'll understand in a second where I am going with this. So what happens with midi is, these events are sent to your midi hardware or software controller either on the input, or on the output side. Trust me with this, I am an audio engineer, so I know what I'm talking about, believe me. I've done this stuff for years. Not saying I'm God, and know everything, cause I definitely don't, but this much, I do! know. OK, so with all of that said, let's address your question at hand... The short answer is, Garageband will definitely do midi. If you don't plan to record, but just want to play, then Audacity or even Main Stage might be your best bet. The thing however is, just know that if you want to get the sounds from your keyboard, it may take a little more work. First of all, does your keyboard have built in speakers? If not, you'll need to somehow get the keyboard going to a line source like the line in of your mac, or to a mixer etc. I don't know your setup, so it's kind of hard for me to really determine e everything right up front without more info. You're going to most likely need a midi to USB converter, because obviously, the mac doesn't have built in round midi in and out and through ports. There is a nice device called the midi Uno that would work with this. Basically, it's a Y cable. One end has 3 of the male round plugs. One for in, one for out, and one for through. So, you'd connect that end
Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac
Yep, I gathered I had to set something and I'm going to have to get some sighted assistance to go through the menu system to find that but again, all detailed in the manual if details are required, thanks again. On 5/04/2015 11:09 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Dane, as I said in my e-mail, that's perfect. That will work flawlessly. Just plug the cord from the keyboard to your USB port, and boom. You're done. Obviously, you'll have to go into GB or whatever and set your midi in and out device to your keyboard/controller, but that's easy enough to do. Chris. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac What you said wasn't too detailed, its exactly how MIDI works, even the manual of my Yamaha MX49 says nearly as much as you've said, enough for the user to know - if they could be bothered reading the Introduction to the user manual - that output of sound from the keyboard and MIDI I/O are 2 different things, as you say MIDI is a controlling interface. Now this brings me to a question regarding my MX49 which I've been meaning to get going for the last 3 months, you know how it is, gets put on the list of 50,000 other things that have to be done in the next 10 years smile, is the USB port for MIDI access the same as the MIDI I/O 5 Pin Din ports on the machine, can I use the supplied USB cable that came with the synth for all MIDI controls or do I need to purchase an adapter. Just to simplify things, I plan to be using this keyboard on the Mac with garage Band. On 5/04/2015 9:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Sorry for being so detailed. I just wanted to be sure that you understood. You said you wanted to use the built in sounds. A lot of people don't understand that midi in and of itself won't produce sounds out the keyboard. I have a real bad habbit of doing this and giving far more detail than necessary, guilty as charged, but I would have hated for you to have gotten an answer, then wonderred why just simply plugging a midi cable or whatever in wasn't working. Pardon the novel-writing. Did you get anything helpful though out of my message? I hope so? Chris. - Original Message - From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac Well, goodness. I didn’t mean anything that detailed. I simply want a program that uses pure midi, can export and import midi, and could optionally save the midi as mp3. I’ve heard that GarageBand on OS X 10.10 is inaccessible in some ways, so I simply want a simple, easily learned and accessible editor that’ll work with midi so that I can just play using the keyboard. I have now, like in the last hour, gone through the keyboard’s array of sounds and found them a little low quality, the keyboard is an older model, so I may just play using the keyboard then export to mp3 or something then all the tracks are good and all, so that’s what I want to do. On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: You're talking two totally different things here. Let's get one thing totally straight. Midi isn't audio. All that midi basically is are different numerical values for certain triggered events, with 1's and 0's attached to it. Basically 0 means the event is off, while 1 means it is on. Every single thing you do with the keyboard is associated with a midi event, as they are called. I understand this isn't what you're asking, but to answer your question, I have to define this, so you'll understand in a second where I am going with this. So what happens with midi is, these events are sent to your midi hardware or software controller either on the input, or on the output side. Trust me with this, I am an audio engineer, so I know what I'm talking about, believe me. I've done this stuff for years. Not saying I'm God, and know everything, cause I definitely don't, but this much, I do! know. OK, so with all of that said, let's address your question at hand... The short answer is, Garageband will definitely do midi. If you don't plan to record, but just want to play, then Audacity or even Main Stage might be your best bet. The thing however is, just know that if you want to get the sounds from your keyboard, it may take a little more work. First of all, does your keyboard have built in speakers? If not, you'll need to somehow get the keyboard going to a line source like the line in of your mac, or to a mixer etc. I don't know your setup, so it's kind of hard for me to really determine e everything right up front without more info. You're going to most likely need a midi to USB converter, because obviously, the mac doesn't
Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac
Not really, Dane. The only thing really that you may have to really do in the keyboard menus would be to turn off local mode. and even that's technically optional. In the meantime, if you dont' want to hear things out of sync coming out the keyboard's audio output, just turn the volume of the keyboard all the way down with it's master volume control. I mean, ok, you might have to go in to the thing and enable the USB midi portion of it, although I've never ever in all keyboard/digital piano/controllers ever seen the need to do this, so you should be just fine. When I referred to setting your input and output, I was talking about setting that on the midi track within Garageband or whatever itself on the software side. You shouldn't need sighted help for that. That's something Voiceover should deal with no problems. Chris. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac Yep, I gathered I had to set something and I'm going to have to get some sighted assistance to go through the menu system to find that but again, all detailed in the manual if details are required, thanks again. On 5/04/2015 11:09 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Dane, as I said in my e-mail, that's perfect. That will work flawlessly. Just plug the cord from the keyboard to your USB port, and boom. You're done. Obviously, you'll have to go into GB or whatever and set your midi in and out device to your keyboard/controller, but that's easy enough to do. Chris. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac What you said wasn't too detailed, its exactly how MIDI works, even the manual of my Yamaha MX49 says nearly as much as you've said, enough for the user to know - if they could be bothered reading the Introduction to the user manual - that output of sound from the keyboard and MIDI I/O are 2 different things, as you say MIDI is a controlling interface. Now this brings me to a question regarding my MX49 which I've been meaning to get going for the last 3 months, you know how it is, gets put on the list of 50,000 other things that have to be done in the next 10 years smile, is the USB port for MIDI access the same as the MIDI I/O 5 Pin Din ports on the machine, can I use the supplied USB cable that came with the synth for all MIDI controls or do I need to purchase an adapter. Just to simplify things, I plan to be using this keyboard on the Mac with garage Band. On 5/04/2015 9:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Sorry for being so detailed. I just wanted to be sure that you understood. You said you wanted to use the built in sounds. A lot of people don't understand that midi in and of itself won't produce sounds out the keyboard. I have a real bad habbit of doing this and giving far more detail than necessary, guilty as charged, but I would have hated for you to have gotten an answer, then wonderred why just simply plugging a midi cable or whatever in wasn't working. Pardon the novel-writing. Did you get anything helpful though out of my message? I hope so? Chris. - Original Message - From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac Well, goodness. I didn’t mean anything that detailed. I simply want a program that uses pure midi, can export and import midi, and could optionally save the midi as mp3. I’ve heard that GarageBand on OS X 10.10 is inaccessible in some ways, so I simply want a simple, easily learned and accessible editor that’ll work with midi so that I can just play using the keyboard. I have now, like in the last hour, gone through the keyboard’s array of sounds and found them a little low quality, the keyboard is an older model, so I may just play using the keyboard then export to mp3 or something then all the tracks are good and all, so that’s what I want to do. On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: You're talking two totally different things here. Let's get one thing totally straight. Midi isn't audio. All that midi basically is are different numerical values for certain triggered events, with 1's and 0's attached to it. Basically 0 means the event is off, while 1 means it is on. Every single thing you do with the keyboard is associated with a midi event, as they are called. I understand this isn't what you're asking, but to answer your question, I have to define this, so you'll understand in a second where I am going with this. So what happens with midi
Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac
Ah okay, I thought a menu option had to be set on the synth itself to enable the MIDI interface. As for the sound from the Synth? The MX49 is not equipped with internal speakers so no problem there smile. On 5/04/2015 11:55 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Not really, Dane. The only thing really that you may have to really do in the keyboard menus would be to turn off local mode. and even that's technically optional. In the meantime, if you dont' want to hear things out of sync coming out the keyboard's audio output, just turn the volume of the keyboard all the way down with it's master volume control. I mean, ok, you might have to go in to the thing and enable the USB midi portion of it, although I've never ever in all keyboard/digital piano/controllers ever seen the need to do this, so you should be just fine. When I referred to setting your input and output, I was talking about setting that on the midi track within Garageband or whatever itself on the software side. You shouldn't need sighted help for that. That's something Voiceover should deal with no problems. Chris. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac Yep, I gathered I had to set something and I'm going to have to get some sighted assistance to go through the menu system to find that but again, all detailed in the manual if details are required, thanks again. On 5/04/2015 11:09 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Dane, as I said in my e-mail, that's perfect. That will work flawlessly. Just plug the cord from the keyboard to your USB port, and boom. You're done. Obviously, you'll have to go into GB or whatever and set your midi in and out device to your keyboard/controller, but that's easy enough to do. Chris. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac What you said wasn't too detailed, its exactly how MIDI works, even the manual of my Yamaha MX49 says nearly as much as you've said, enough for the user to know - if they could be bothered reading the Introduction to the user manual - that output of sound from the keyboard and MIDI I/O are 2 different things, as you say MIDI is a controlling interface. Now this brings me to a question regarding my MX49 which I've been meaning to get going for the last 3 months, you know how it is, gets put on the list of 50,000 other things that have to be done in the next 10 years smile, is the USB port for MIDI access the same as the MIDI I/O 5 Pin Din ports on the machine, can I use the supplied USB cable that came with the synth for all MIDI controls or do I need to purchase an adapter. Just to simplify things, I plan to be using this keyboard on the Mac with garage Band. On 5/04/2015 9:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Sorry for being so detailed. I just wanted to be sure that you understood. You said you wanted to use the built in sounds. A lot of people don't understand that midi in and of itself won't produce sounds out the keyboard. I have a real bad habbit of doing this and giving far more detail than necessary, guilty as charged, but I would have hated for you to have gotten an answer, then wonderred why just simply plugging a midi cable or whatever in wasn't working. Pardon the novel-writing. Did you get anything helpful though out of my message? I hope so? Chris. - Original Message - From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac Well, goodness. I didn’t mean anything that detailed. I simply want a program that uses pure midi, can export and import midi, and could optionally save the midi as mp3. I’ve heard that GarageBand on OS X 10.10 is inaccessible in some ways, so I simply want a simple, easily learned and accessible editor that’ll work with midi so that I can just play using the keyboard. I have now, like in the last hour, gone through the keyboard’s array of sounds and found them a little low quality, the keyboard is an older model, so I may just play using the keyboard then export to mp3 or something then all the tracks are good and all, so that’s what I want to do. On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: You're talking two totally different things here. Let's get one thing totally straight. Midi isn't audio. All that midi basically is are different numerical values for certain triggered events, with 1's and 0's attached to it. Basically 0 means the event is off, while 1 means it is on. Every single thing you do
Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac
Yes, I just need to know of a program that is like Quick Windows Sequencer for the mac, if you’re familiar with QWS. On Apr 4, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for being so detailed. I just wanted to be sure that you understood. You said you wanted to use the built in sounds. A lot of people don't understand that midi in and of itself won't produce sounds out the keyboard. I have a real bad habbit of doing this and giving far more detail than necessary, guilty as charged, but I would have hated for you to have gotten an answer, then wonderred why just simply plugging a midi cable or whatever in wasn't working. Pardon the novel-writing. Did you get anything helpful though out of my message? I hope so? Chris. - Original Message - From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac Well, goodness. I didn’t mean anything that detailed. I simply want a program that uses pure midi, can export and import midi, and could optionally save the midi as mp3. I’ve heard that GarageBand on OS X 10.10 is inaccessible in some ways, so I simply want a simple, easily learned and accessible editor that’ll work with midi so that I can just play using the keyboard. I have now, like in the last hour, gone through the keyboard’s array of sounds and found them a little low quality, the keyboard is an older model, so I may just play using the keyboard then export to mp3 or something then all the tracks are good and all, so that’s what I want to do. On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: You're talking two totally different things here. Let's get one thing totally straight. Midi isn't audio. All that midi basically is are different numerical values for certain triggered events, with 1's and 0's attached to it. Basically 0 means the event is off, while 1 means it is on. Every single thing you do with the keyboard is associated with a midi event, as they are called. I understand this isn't what you're asking, but to answer your question, I have to define this, so you'll understand in a second where I am going with this. So what happens with midi is, these events are sent to your midi hardware or software controller either on the input, or on the output side. Trust me with this, I am an audio engineer, so I know what I'm talking about, believe me. I've done this stuff for years. Not saying I'm God, and know everything, cause I definitely don't, but this much, I do! know. OK, so with all of that said, let's address your question at hand... The short answer is, Garageband will definitely do midi. If you don't plan to record, but just want to play, then Audacity or even Main Stage might be your best bet. The thing however is, just know that if you want to get the sounds from your keyboard, it may take a little more work. First of all, does your keyboard have built in speakers? If not, you'll need to somehow get the keyboard going to a line source like the line in of your mac, or to a mixer etc. I don't know your setup, so it's kind of hard for me to really determine e everything right up front without more info. You're going to most likely need a midi to USB converter, because obviously, the mac doesn't have built in round midi in and out and through ports. There is a nice device called the midi Uno that would work with this. Basically, it's a Y cable. One end has 3 of the male round plugs. One for in, one for out, and one for through. So, you'd connect that end to your keyboard, and leave the through cable dangling if you don't have a through port on the keyboard... it won't hurt anything. The other end is a standard USB plug. That would go into the USB port on your mac. I think they're somewhere like around $50 or so. Amazong should have them. I've had mine for about 5 years now, so I can't tell ya if they still exist, but, I'd definitely look. If your keyboard actually connects via USB, not the round midi plugs, then just use a standard plug and play USB cable, and you'll be good to go. If you want to then play midi with the built in instruments, then you'll open up your DAW, (Digital Audio workstation,) of choice, be it Garageband, Audacity, whatever, and you'll want to set your midi output to your keyboard midi controller. So, if you're using an Uno, or some sort of midi to USB converter, it should, provided you have the drivers properly installed, show up in your output list. You'd just pick it, and boom, you're done. Now you'll play the midi file just like you normally would and it then should come out your keyboard speakers, or if no speakers, it'll get routed to your keyboard's line out/headphone out which you
Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac
Yeah, aside from Garageband, I really don't know of anything that is just midi that could do only basic midi functions as what I use obviously, with ProTools is a full fledged DAW. Plus, for what it sounds like you need, it would not only ouch your wallet, but would be way! and I mean escrutiatingly way! overkill! Chris. - Original Message - From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac Yes, I just need to know of a program that is like Quick Windows Sequencer for the mac, if you’re familiar with QWS. On Apr 4, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for being so detailed. I just wanted to be sure that you understood. You said you wanted to use the built in sounds. A lot of people don't understand that midi in and of itself won't produce sounds out the keyboard. I have a real bad habbit of doing this and giving far more detail than necessary, guilty as charged, but I would have hated for you to have gotten an answer, then wonderred why just simply plugging a midi cable or whatever in wasn't working. Pardon the novel-writing. Did you get anything helpful though out of my message? I hope so? Chris. - Original Message - From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac Well, goodness. I didn’t mean anything that detailed. I simply want a program that uses pure midi, can export and import midi, and could optionally save the midi as mp3. I’ve heard that GarageBand on OS X 10.10 is inaccessible in some ways, so I simply want a simple, easily learned and accessible editor that’ll work with midi so that I can just play using the keyboard. I have now, like in the last hour, gone through the keyboard’s array of sounds and found them a little low quality, the keyboard is an older model, so I may just play using the keyboard then export to mp3 or something then all the tracks are good and all, so that’s what I want to do. On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: You're talking two totally different things here. Let's get one thing totally straight. Midi isn't audio. All that midi basically is are different numerical values for certain triggered events, with 1's and 0's attached to it. Basically 0 means the event is off, while 1 means it is on. Every single thing you do with the keyboard is associated with a midi event, as they are called. I understand this isn't what you're asking, but to answer your question, I have to define this, so you'll understand in a second where I am going with this. So what happens with midi is, these events are sent to your midi hardware or software controller either on the input, or on the output side. Trust me with this, I am an audio engineer, so I know what I'm talking about, believe me. I've done this stuff for years. Not saying I'm God, and know everything, cause I definitely don't, but this much, I do! know. OK, so with all of that said, let's address your question at hand... The short answer is, Garageband will definitely do midi. If you don't plan to record, but just want to play, then Audacity or even Main Stage might be your best bet. The thing however is, just know that if you want to get the sounds from your keyboard, it may take a little more work. First of all, does your keyboard have built in speakers? If not, you'll need to somehow get the keyboard going to a line source like the line in of your mac, or to a mixer etc. I don't know your setup, so it's kind of hard for me to really determine e everything right up front without more info. You're going to most likely need a midi to USB converter, because obviously, the mac doesn't have built in round midi in and out and through ports. There is a nice device called the midi Uno that would work with this. Basically, it's a Y cable. One end has 3 of the male round plugs. One for in, one for out, and one for through. So, you'd connect that end to your keyboard, and leave the through cable dangling if you don't have a through port on the keyboard... it won't hurt anything. The other end is a standard USB plug. That would go into the USB port on your mac. I think they're somewhere like around $50 or so. Amazong should have them. I've had mine for about 5 years now, so I can't tell ya if they still exist, but, I'd definitely look. If your keyboard actually connects via USB, not the round midi plugs, then just use a standard plug and play USB cable, and you'll be good to go. If you want to then play midi with the built in instruments, then you'll open up your DAW, (Digital Audio workstation,) of choice, be it Garageband, Audacity, whatever
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What you said wasn't too detailed, its exactly how MIDI works, even the manual of my Yamaha MX49 says nearly as much as you've said, enough for the user to know - if they could be bothered reading the Introduction to the user manual - that output of sound from the keyboard and MIDI I/O are 2 different things, as you say MIDI is a controlling interface. Now this brings me to a question regarding my MX49 which I've been meaning to get going for the last 3 months, you know how it is, gets put on the list of 50,000 other things that have to be done in the next 10 years smile, is the USB port for MIDI access the same as the MIDI I/O 5 Pin Din ports on the machine, can I use the supplied USB cable that came with the synth for all MIDI controls or do I need to purchase an adapter. Just to simplify things, I plan to be using this keyboard on the Mac with garage Band. On 5/04/2015 9:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Sorry for being so detailed. I just wanted to be sure that you understood. You said you wanted to use the built in sounds. A lot of people don't understand that midi in and of itself won't produce sounds out the keyboard. I have a real bad habbit of doing this and giving far more detail than necessary, guilty as charged, but I would have hated for you to have gotten an answer, then wonderred why just simply plugging a midi cable or whatever in wasn't working. Pardon the novel-writing. Did you get anything helpful though out of my message? I hope so? Chris. - Original Message - From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac Well, goodness. I didn’t mean anything that detailed. I simply want a program that uses pure midi, can export and import midi, and could optionally save the midi as mp3. I’ve heard that GarageBand on OS X 10.10 is inaccessible in some ways, so I simply want a simple, easily learned and accessible editor that’ll work with midi so that I can just play using the keyboard. I have now, like in the last hour, gone through the keyboard’s array of sounds and found them a little low quality, the keyboard is an older model, so I may just play using the keyboard then export to mp3 or something then all the tracks are good and all, so that’s what I want to do. On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: You're talking two totally different things here. Let's get one thing totally straight. Midi isn't audio. All that midi basically is are different numerical values for certain triggered events, with 1's and 0's attached to it. Basically 0 means the event is off, while 1 means it is on. Every single thing you do with the keyboard is associated with a midi event, as they are called. I understand this isn't what you're asking, but to answer your question, I have to define this, so you'll understand in a second where I am going with this. So what happens with midi is, these events are sent to your midi hardware or software controller either on the input, or on the output side. Trust me with this, I am an audio engineer, so I know what I'm talking about, believe me. I've done this stuff for years. Not saying I'm God, and know everything, cause I definitely don't, but this much, I do! know. OK, so with all of that said, let's address your question at hand... The short answer is, Garageband will definitely do midi. If you don't plan to record, but just want to play, then Audacity or even Main Stage might be your best bet. The thing however is, just know that if you want to get the sounds from your keyboard, it may take a little more work. First of all, does your keyboard have built in speakers? If not, you'll need to somehow get the keyboard going to a line source like the line in of your mac, or to a mixer etc. I don't know your setup, so it's kind of hard for me to really determine e everything right up front without more info. You're going to most likely need a midi to USB converter, because obviously, the mac doesn't have built in round midi in and out and through ports. There is a nice device called the midi Uno that would work with this. Basically, it's a Y cable. One end has 3 of the male round plugs. One for in, one for out, and one for through. So, you'd connect that end to your keyboard, and leave the through cable dangling if you don't have a through port on the keyboard... it won't hurt anything. The other end is a standard USB plug. That would go into the USB port on your mac. I think they're somewhere like around $50 or so. Amazong should have them. I've had mine for about 5 years now, so I can't tell ya if they still exist, but, I'd definitely look. If your keyboard actually connects via USB, not the round midi plugs, then just use a standard plug and play USB cable, and you'll be good
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Oh my God! it's so funny you'd mention that about Reaper. I just! literally! just! like not even 3 minutes, literally! ago wrote the Reapers Without Peapers e-mail list to let them know that I tried Reaper just now on the Mac, and oh?... my... God! Ab, suh, lootly? beautiful! I honestly on the mac side didn't have very high hopes, however, it is simply put in one word: Gorgeous! I don't think even one single element wasn't correctly labeled. Even the track strips themselves and all of the settings within them are totally! accessibly adjustable. Needless to say, though I still intend to use ProTools primarily, and not Reaper for now, I have bought Reaper and now have it both on my mac, and my Windows machine and am incredibly impressed on both sides of the fence. I'd highly highly recommend you all try it out! There is a 60 day trial, so it's not like you have to buy it right now today. Then, after that, it's only $60! Considerring it's a full fledged DAW, and yes, it does do midi, though I haven't yet worked out exactly how, in comparison to Logic X, or ProTools, this is an absolutely brilliant! solution. No ILok or anything stupid like that either. Just a simple key that gets e-mail to you. You either can copy and paste it, or, they even attach a file to an e-mail for you which you can browse for, and import which automatically will unlock it for you. I'm simply over here now salivating! Chris. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac I wonder if Reaper would be any help? I'm not up with MIDI stuff. On 5/04/2015 10:12 AM, Devin Prater wrote: Yes, I just need to know of a program that is like Quick Windows Sequencer for the mac, if you’re familiar with QWS. On Apr 4, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for being so detailed. I just wanted to be sure that you understood. You said you wanted to use the built in sounds. A lot of people don't understand that midi in and of itself won't produce sounds out the keyboard. I have a real bad habbit of doing this and giving far more detail than necessary, guilty as charged, but I would have hated for you to have gotten an answer, then wonderred why just simply plugging a midi cable or whatever in wasn't working. Pardon the novel-writing. Did you get anything helpful though out of my message? I hope so? Chris. - Original Message - From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac Well, goodness. I didn’t mean anything that detailed. I simply want a program that uses pure midi, can export and import midi, and could optionally save the midi as mp3. I’ve heard that GarageBand on OS X 10.10 is inaccessible in some ways, so I simply want a simple, easily learned and accessible editor that’ll work with midi so that I can just play using the keyboard. I have now, like in the last hour, gone through the keyboard’s array of sounds and found them a little low quality, the keyboard is an older model, so I may just play using the keyboard then export to mp3 or something then all the tracks are good and all, so that’s what I want to do. On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: You're talking two totally different things here. Let's get one thing totally straight. Midi isn't audio. All that midi basically is are different numerical values for certain triggered events, with 1's and 0's attached to it. Basically 0 means the event is off, while 1 means it is on. Every single thing you do with the keyboard is associated with a midi event, as they are called. I understand this isn't what you're asking, but to answer your question, I have to define this, so you'll understand in a second where I am going with this. So what happens with midi is, these events are sent to your midi hardware or software controller either on the input, or on the output side. Trust me with this, I am an audio engineer, so I know what I'm talking about, believe me. I've done this stuff for years. Not saying I'm God, and know everything, cause I definitely don't, but this much, I do! know. OK, so with all of that said, let's address your question at hand... The short answer is, Garageband will definitely do midi. If you don't plan to record, but just want to play, then Audacity or even Main Stage might be your best bet. The thing however is, just know that if you want to get the sounds from your keyboard, it may take a little more work. First of all, does your keyboard have built in speakers? If not, you'll need to somehow get the keyboard going to a line source like the line in of your
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Thanks for that and its appreciated far more than you realise, makes me fully appreciate why I bothered banging on about Reaper for the last 3 years smile. On 5/04/2015 10:58 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Oh my God! it's so funny you'd mention that about Reaper. I just! literally! just! like not even 3 minutes, literally! ago wrote the Reapers Without Peapers e-mail list to let them know that I tried Reaper just now on the Mac, and oh?... my... God! Ab, suh, lootly? beautiful! I honestly on the mac side didn't have very high hopes, however, it is simply put in one word: Gorgeous! I don't think even one single element wasn't correctly labeled. Even the track strips themselves and all of the settings within them are totally! accessibly adjustable. Needless to say, though I still intend to use ProTools primarily, and not Reaper for now, I have bought Reaper and now have it both on my mac, and my Windows machine and am incredibly impressed on both sides of the fence. I'd highly highly recommend you all try it out! There is a 60 day trial, so it's not like you have to buy it right now today. Then, after that, it's only $60! Considerring it's a full fledged DAW, and yes, it does do midi, though I haven't yet worked out exactly how, in comparison to Logic X, or ProTools, this is an absolutely brilliant! solution. No ILok or anything stupid like that either. Just a simple key that gets e-mail to you. You either can copy and paste it, or, they even attach a file to an e-mail for you which you can browse for, and import which automatically will unlock it for you. I'm simply over here now salivating! Chris. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac I wonder if Reaper would be any help? I'm not up with MIDI stuff. On 5/04/2015 10:12 AM, Devin Prater wrote: Yes, I just need to know of a program that is like Quick Windows Sequencer for the mac, if you’re familiar with QWS. On Apr 4, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for being so detailed. I just wanted to be sure that you understood. You said you wanted to use the built in sounds. A lot of people don't understand that midi in and of itself won't produce sounds out the keyboard. I have a real bad habbit of doing this and giving far more detail than necessary, guilty as charged, but I would have hated for you to have gotten an answer, then wonderred why just simply plugging a midi cable or whatever in wasn't working. Pardon the novel-writing. Did you get anything helpful though out of my message? I hope so? Chris. - Original Message - From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac Well, goodness. I didn’t mean anything that detailed. I simply want a program that uses pure midi, can export and import midi, and could optionally save the midi as mp3. I’ve heard that GarageBand on OS X 10.10 is inaccessible in some ways, so I simply want a simple, easily learned and accessible editor that’ll work with midi so that I can just play using the keyboard. I have now, like in the last hour, gone through the keyboard’s array of sounds and found them a little low quality, the keyboard is an older model, so I may just play using the keyboard then export to mp3 or something then all the tracks are good and all, so that’s what I want to do. On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: You're talking two totally different things here. Let's get one thing totally straight. Midi isn't audio. All that midi basically is are different numerical values for certain triggered events, with 1's and 0's attached to it. Basically 0 means the event is off, while 1 means it is on. Every single thing you do with the keyboard is associated with a midi event, as they are called. I understand this isn't what you're asking, but to answer your question, I have to define this, so you'll understand in a second where I am going with this. So what happens with midi is, these events are sent to your midi hardware or software controller either on the input, or on the output side. Trust me with this, I am an audio engineer, so I know what I'm talking about, believe me. I've done this stuff for years. Not saying I'm God, and know everything, cause I definitely don't, but this much, I do! know. OK, so with all of that said, let's address your question at hand... The short answer is, Garageband will definitely do midi. If you don't plan to record, but just want to play, then Audacity or even Main Stage might be your best bet. The thing however is, just know that if you want to get
Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac
You're talking two totally different things here. Let's get one thing totally straight. Midi isn't audio. All that midi basically is are different numerical values for certain triggered events, with 1's and 0's attached to it. Basically 0 means the event is off, while 1 means it is on. Every single thing you do with the keyboard is associated with a midi event, as they are called. I understand this isn't what you're asking, but to answer your question, I have to define this, so you'll understand in a second where I am going with this. So what happens with midi is, these events are sent to your midi hardware or software controller either on the input, or on the output side. Trust me with this, I am an audio engineer, so I know what I'm talking about, believe me. I've done this stuff for years. Not saying I'm God, and know everything, cause I definitely don't, but this much, I do! know. OK, so with all of that said, let's address your question at hand... The short answer is, Garageband will definitely do midi. If you don't plan to record, but just want to play, then Audacity or even Main Stage might be your best bet. The thing however is, just know that if you want to get the sounds from your keyboard, it may take a little more work. First of all, does your keyboard have built in speakers? If not, you'll need to somehow get the keyboard going to a line source like the line in of your mac, or to a mixer etc. I don't know your setup, so it's kind of hard for me to really determine e everything right up front without more info. You're going to most likely need a midi to USB converter, because obviously, the mac doesn't have built in round midi in and out and through ports. There is a nice device called the midi Uno that would work with this. Basically, it's a Y cable. One end has 3 of the male round plugs. One for in, one for out, and one for through. So, you'd connect that end to your keyboard, and leave the through cable dangling if you don't have a through port on the keyboard... it won't hurt anything. The other end is a standard USB plug. That would go into the USB port on your mac. I think they're somewhere like around $50 or so. Amazong should have them. I've had mine for about 5 years now, so I can't tell ya if they still exist, but, I'd definitely look. If your keyboard actually connects via USB, not the round midi plugs, then just use a standard plug and play USB cable, and you'll be good to go. If you want to then play midi with the built in instruments, then you'll open up your DAW, (Digital Audio workstation,) of choice, be it Garageband, Audacity, whatever, and you'll want to set your midi output to your keyboard midi controller. So, if you're using an Uno, or some sort of midi to USB converter, it should, provided you have the drivers properly installed, show up in your output list. You'd just pick it, and boom, you're done. Now you'll play the midi file just like you normally would and it then should come out your keyboard speakers, or if no speakers, it'll get routed to your keyboard's line out/headphone out which you then have fed back into a line in source of some type. If you wanna record using the sounds in the keyboard, this gets a little more complecated. Basically, keeping it general, and elementary, you'd need, even if there are! built in speakers, to connect a stereo patch cable to the line out, preferred, or if you don't have one, the headphone jack of the keyboard, and the other end into a channel on your interface/mixer, or if you don't have one, then directly to your line in on the mac. Fire up your DAW of choice. Open the midi file, or record it like normal, then in your project, create a stereo audio track for your final master mix, arm it for recording if needed, then making sure none of your midi tracks are armed, so you don't accidentally record over them, hit record in the software of your choice, and then basically allow the midi to play through your keyboard, and get routed out the keyboard to the line in of your mixer/interface/line in jack on the mac, therefore capturing that audio and recording it to the stereo audio track you just created. Then, once done, delete all the midi tracks from the project, leaving only the one audio track, and then mix/bounce/render, however the DAW calls it, it down to either a wave file, or an mp3. Preferably a wave file, so that it won't be compressed or with any artifacts. You can later go back and encode that wave to an mp3 file, if it be needed. I do offer tech support on this type thing, so if you need help, give me a call on Monday, and I can definitely help you with this. My rates are $15 an hour, or $25 flat rate for unlimited tech support during business hours for one whole month. I take PayPal, and I also can over the phone process Visa and Mastercards if it be a last resort. I prefer PayPal though as the other way can
[Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac
Hi all. I mac a lovely midi keyboard… Well it will be when I find the midi -to-usb cable… Its a Yamaha keyboard with its own built-in instruments. I really would rather use its instruments instead of the garageband ones, and would rather have a program that simply makes midi files, like QWS on Windows. Are there any apps that can do that for the Mac? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac
Well, goodness. I didn’t mean anything that detailed. I simply want a program that uses pure midi, can export and import midi, and could optionally save the midi as mp3. I’ve heard that GarageBand on OS X 10.10 is inaccessible in some ways, so I simply want a simple, easily learned and accessible editor that’ll work with midi so that I can just play using the keyboard. I have now, like in the last hour, gone through the keyboard’s array of sounds and found them a little low quality, the keyboard is an older model, so I may just play using the keyboard then export to mp3 or something then all the tracks are good and all, so that’s what I want to do. On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: You're talking two totally different things here. Let's get one thing totally straight. Midi isn't audio. All that midi basically is are different numerical values for certain triggered events, with 1's and 0's attached to it. Basically 0 means the event is off, while 1 means it is on. Every single thing you do with the keyboard is associated with a midi event, as they are called. I understand this isn't what you're asking, but to answer your question, I have to define this, so you'll understand in a second where I am going with this. So what happens with midi is, these events are sent to your midi hardware or software controller either on the input, or on the output side. Trust me with this, I am an audio engineer, so I know what I'm talking about, believe me. I've done this stuff for years. Not saying I'm God, and know everything, cause I definitely don't, but this much, I do! know. OK, so with all of that said, let's address your question at hand... The short answer is, Garageband will definitely do midi. If you don't plan to record, but just want to play, then Audacity or even Main Stage might be your best bet. The thing however is, just know that if you want to get the sounds from your keyboard, it may take a little more work. First of all, does your keyboard have built in speakers? If not, you'll need to somehow get the keyboard going to a line source like the line in of your mac, or to a mixer etc. I don't know your setup, so it's kind of hard for me to really determine e everything right up front without more info. You're going to most likely need a midi to USB converter, because obviously, the mac doesn't have built in round midi in and out and through ports. There is a nice device called the midi Uno that would work with this. Basically, it's a Y cable. One end has 3 of the male round plugs. One for in, one for out, and one for through. So, you'd connect that end to your keyboard, and leave the through cable dangling if you don't have a through port on the keyboard... it won't hurt anything. The other end is a standard USB plug. That would go into the USB port on your mac. I think they're somewhere like around $50 or so. Amazong should have them. I've had mine for about 5 years now, so I can't tell ya if they still exist, but, I'd definitely look. If your keyboard actually connects via USB, not the round midi plugs, then just use a standard plug and play USB cable, and you'll be good to go. If you want to then play midi with the built in instruments, then you'll open up your DAW, (Digital Audio workstation,) of choice, be it Garageband, Audacity, whatever, and you'll want to set your midi output to your keyboard midi controller. So, if you're using an Uno, or some sort of midi to USB converter, it should, provided you have the drivers properly installed, show up in your output list. You'd just pick it, and boom, you're done. Now you'll play the midi file just like you normally would and it then should come out your keyboard speakers, or if no speakers, it'll get routed to your keyboard's line out/headphone out which you then have fed back into a line in source of some type. If you wanna record using the sounds in the keyboard, this gets a little more complecated. Basically, keeping it general, and elementary, you'd need, even if there are! built in speakers, to connect a stereo patch cable to the line out, preferred, or if you don't have one, the headphone jack of the keyboard, and the other end into a channel on your interface/mixer, or if you don't have one, then directly to your line in on the mac. Fire up your DAW of choice. Open the midi file, or record it like normal, then in your project, create a stereo audio track for your final master mix, arm it for recording if needed, then making sure none of your midi tracks are armed, so you don't accidentally record over them, hit record in the software of your choice, and then basically allow the midi to play through your keyboard, and get routed out the keyboard to the line in of your mixer/interface/line in jack on the mac, therefore capturing that audio
Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac
Sorry for being so detailed. I just wanted to be sure that you understood. You said you wanted to use the built in sounds. A lot of people don't understand that midi in and of itself won't produce sounds out the keyboard. I have a real bad habbit of doing this and giving far more detail than necessary, guilty as charged, but I would have hated for you to have gotten an answer, then wonderred why just simply plugging a midi cable or whatever in wasn't working. Pardon the novel-writing. Did you get anything helpful though out of my message? I hope so? Chris. - Original Message - From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac Well, goodness. I didn’t mean anything that detailed. I simply want a program that uses pure midi, can export and import midi, and could optionally save the midi as mp3. I’ve heard that GarageBand on OS X 10.10 is inaccessible in some ways, so I simply want a simple, easily learned and accessible editor that’ll work with midi so that I can just play using the keyboard. I have now, like in the last hour, gone through the keyboard’s array of sounds and found them a little low quality, the keyboard is an older model, so I may just play using the keyboard then export to mp3 or something then all the tracks are good and all, so that’s what I want to do. On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: You're talking two totally different things here. Let's get one thing totally straight. Midi isn't audio. All that midi basically is are different numerical values for certain triggered events, with 1's and 0's attached to it. Basically 0 means the event is off, while 1 means it is on. Every single thing you do with the keyboard is associated with a midi event, as they are called. I understand this isn't what you're asking, but to answer your question, I have to define this, so you'll understand in a second where I am going with this. So what happens with midi is, these events are sent to your midi hardware or software controller either on the input, or on the output side. Trust me with this, I am an audio engineer, so I know what I'm talking about, believe me. I've done this stuff for years. Not saying I'm God, and know everything, cause I definitely don't, but this much, I do! know. OK, so with all of that said, let's address your question at hand... The short answer is, Garageband will definitely do midi. If you don't plan to record, but just want to play, then Audacity or even Main Stage might be your best bet. The thing however is, just know that if you want to get the sounds from your keyboard, it may take a little more work. First of all, does your keyboard have built in speakers? If not, you'll need to somehow get the keyboard going to a line source like the line in of your mac, or to a mixer etc. I don't know your setup, so it's kind of hard for me to really determine e everything right up front without more info. You're going to most likely need a midi to USB converter, because obviously, the mac doesn't have built in round midi in and out and through ports. There is a nice device called the midi Uno that would work with this. Basically, it's a Y cable. One end has 3 of the male round plugs. One for in, one for out, and one for through. So, you'd connect that end to your keyboard, and leave the through cable dangling if you don't have a through port on the keyboard... it won't hurt anything. The other end is a standard USB plug. That would go into the USB port on your mac. I think they're somewhere like around $50 or so. Amazong should have them. I've had mine for about 5 years now, so I can't tell ya if they still exist, but, I'd definitely look. If your keyboard actually connects via USB, not the round midi plugs, then just use a standard plug and play USB cable, and you'll be good to go. If you want to then play midi with the built in instruments, then you'll open up your DAW, (Digital Audio workstation,) of choice, be it Garageband, Audacity, whatever, and you'll want to set your midi output to your keyboard midi controller. So, if you're using an Uno, or some sort of midi to USB converter, it should, provided you have the drivers properly installed, show up in your output list. You'd just pick it, and boom, you're done. Now you'll play the midi file just like you normally would and it then should come out your keyboard speakers, or if no speakers, it'll get routed to your keyboard's line out/headphone out which you then have fed back into a line in source of some type. If you wanna record using the sounds in the keyboard, this gets a little more complecated. Basically, keeping it general, and elementary, you'd need, even if there are! built in speakers, to connect a stereo patch cable
Re: [Mac-access]: iHome keyboard with an iPad
Sounds like it. Thanks. Glenn - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: iHome keyboard with an iPad Was quick nav off? this seems to be an issue with ios 7 and up. On Feb 3, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Glenn / Lenny glenner...@cableone.net wrote: Hi All, A client just bought a brand-new iPad, and she went to Walmart to get a portfolio keyboard/case, of the iHome brand. She said that she was not able to input anything or even arrow around while VoiceOver was running. But as soon as she turned VO off, the keyboard worked fine. Has anyone here had any luck with this brand on any IOS products? Thanks. Glenn --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: iHome keyboard with an iPad
Was quick nav off? this seems to be an issue with ios 7 and up. On Feb 3, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Glenn / Lenny glenner...@cableone.net wrote: Hi All, A client just bought a brand-new iPad, and she went to Walmart to get a portfolio keyboard/case, of the iHome brand. She said that she was not able to input anything or even arrow around while VoiceOver was running. But as soon as she turned VO off, the keyboard worked fine. Has anyone here had any luck with this brand on any IOS products? Thanks. Glenn --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
[Mac-access]: iHome keyboard with an iPad
Hi All, A client just bought a brand-new iPad, and she went to Walmart to get a portfolio keyboard/case, of the iHome brand. She said that she was not able to input anything or even arrow around while VoiceOver was running. But as soon as she turned VO off, the keyboard worked fine. Has anyone here had any luck with this brand on any IOS products? Thanks. Glenn --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
[Mac-access]: OT: - Widnows with Mac keyboard problem
Hello Apologies if there is a more appropriate list still running for this, but if someone could reply privately I would appreciate it. I am in the UK and use VMWare to access MS Windows. I am using a USB Mac keyboard (with the inverted T and numeric keypad build int). I have, to the best of my knowledge, got system preferences set to UK for region and keyboard in both OS X (Yosemite) and Windows 8, but the keyboard Grave Accent character is not where I expect it to be in either OS. It appears to the left of Z on the bottom row, where I would expect Backslash to be. I would expect the Grave accent to be to the left of number 1 on the number keys row. While I can live with this and the At sign key being Shifted @ rather than Shifted ‘ I would like to know what I have got wrong here. With best wishes. Dennis. . --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: How do I add a Spanish keyboard layout to my Mac?
Hi again, Colin - Just been back in there, and got to the right place this time. Thanks - Andy On 8 Nov 2014, at 00:20, Colin Matthews velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com wrote: Hi! I did it a different way! When I got to the part where you were on the search field I did not put anything in there! What I did was arrow across to the table of Languages interacted with it then arrowed down to Spanish stopped interacting then arrowed right and another table with 2 options was there [Spanish or Spanish - ISO] So I suppose you would need to pick one of those 2 options! Then there is an add default button if your happy with your choice just press enter! PS I noticed the table of Languages is to the left of the search field past a HTML field So I would think after your search method you might find that table of 2 choices! ! I HTH Colin. On 7 Nov 2014, at 17:46, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi Colin - Under keyboard/input, the only entry in the table was British, so I clicked the add button and got a text field to input a keyword for an input option, so I entered the word Spanish in that text field, which then appeared in the table, under British, but when I selected it, no change seemed to occur for the keyboard. Feels like I”m missing something here? - Andy On 7 Nov 2014, at 00:54, Colin Matthews velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com wrote: Hi! Under keyboard in system preferences select the input sources tab and you can choose a new keyboard from there! And if you like can choose to put the keyboards menu in [menu extras] and I think you might be able to switch using the Roda! HTH Colin On 6 Nov 2014, at 19:56, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi all - Thanks to Anne I now have accented lettering sorted out, but following her suggestion, I’ve had a good look around my system, but can’t see anywhere to add a second keyboard. I’ve looked under keyboard in system preferences, but nothing there it seems. In the meantime, can anybody tell me how to create a inverted question mark, this is something used regularly in Spanish, but I can’t find it on this regular keyboard layout - Andy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address
Re: [Mac-access]: How do I add a Spanish keyboard layout to my Mac?
Hi Colin - Under keyboard/input, the only entry in the table was British, so I clicked the add button and got a text field to input a keyword for an input option, so I entered the word Spanish in that text field, which then appeared in the table, under British, but when I selected it, no change seemed to occur for the keyboard. Feels like I”m missing something here? - Andy On 7 Nov 2014, at 00:54, Colin Matthews velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com wrote: Hi! Under keyboard in system preferences select the input sources tab and you can choose a new keyboard from there! And if you like can choose to put the keyboards menu in [menu extras] and I think you might be able to switch using the Rota! HTH Colin On 6 Nov 2014, at 19:56, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi all - Thanks to Anne I now have accented lettering sorted out, but following her suggestion, I’ve had a good look around my system, but can’t see anywhere to add a second keyboard. I’ve looked under keyboard in system preferences, but nothing there it seems. In the meantime, can anybody tell me how to create a inverted question mark, this is something used regularly in Spanish, but I can’t find it on this regular keyboard layout - Andy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: How do I add a Spanish keyboard layout to my Mac?
Hi! I did it a different way! When I got to the part where you were on the search field I did not put anything in there! What I did was arrow across to the table of Languages interacted with it then arrowed down to Spanish stopped interacting then arrowed right and another table with 2 options was there [Spanish or Spanish - ISO] So I suppose you would need to pick one of those 2 options! Then there is an add default button if your happy with your choice just press enter! PS I noticed the table of Languages is to the left of the search field past a HTML field So I would think after your search method you might find that table of 2 choices! ! I HTH Colin. On 7 Nov 2014, at 17:46, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi Colin - Under keyboard/input, the only entry in the table was British, so I clicked the add button and got a text field to input a keyword for an input option, so I entered the word Spanish in that text field, which then appeared in the table, under British, but when I selected it, no change seemed to occur for the keyboard. Feels like I”m missing something here? - Andy On 7 Nov 2014, at 00:54, Colin Matthews velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com wrote: Hi! Under keyboard in system preferences select the input sources tab and you can choose a new keyboard from there! And if you like can choose to put the keyboards menu in [menu extras] and I think you might be able to switch using the Roda! HTH Colin On 6 Nov 2014, at 19:56, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi all - Thanks to Anne I now have accented lettering sorted out, but following her suggestion, I’ve had a good look around my system, but can’t see anywhere to add a second keyboard. I’ve looked under keyboard in system preferences, but nothing there it seems. In the meantime, can anybody tell me how to create a inverted question mark, this is something used regularly in Spanish, but I can’t find it on this regular keyboard layout - Andy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net
[Mac-access]: How do I add a Spanish keyboard layout to my Mac?
Hi all - Thanks to Anne I now have accented lettering sorted out, but following her suggestion, I’ve had a good look around my system, but can’t see anywhere to add a second keyboard. I’ve looked under keyboard in system preferences, but nothing there it seems. In the meantime, can anybody tell me how to create a inverted question mark, this is something used regularly in Spanish, but I can’t find it on this regular keyboard layout - Andy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: How do I add a Spanish keyboard layout to my Mac?
have you tried the Spanish keyboard on your phone?maybe you could then save in iCloud. On 6 Nov 2014, at 19:17, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi all - Thanks to Anne I now have accented lettering sorted out, but following her suggestion, I’ve had a good look around my system, but can’t see anywhere to add a second keyboard. I’ve looked under keyboard in system preferences, but nothing there it seems. In the meantime, can anybody tell me how to create a inverted question mark, this is something used regularly in Spanish, but I can’t find it on this regular keyboard layout - Andy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: How do I add a Spanish keyboard layout to my Mac?
Try Shift+Option+? and let me know if it works. Eleanor - Original Message - From: Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 7:17 PM Subject: [Mac-access]: How do I add a Spanish keyboard layout to my Mac? Hi all - Thanks to Anne I now have accented lettering sorted out, but following her suggestion, I’ve had a good look around my system, but can’t see anywhere to add a second keyboard. I’ve looked under keyboard in system preferences, but nothing there it seems. In the meantime, can anybody tell me how to create a inverted question mark, this is something used regularly in Spanish, but I can’t find it on this regular keyboard layout - Andy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: How do I add a Spanish keyboard layout to my Mac?
Eleanor - Almost, Shift with option and question does it. Thanks - Andy On 6 Nov 2014, at 19:30, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: Try Shift+Option+? and let me know if it works. Eleanor - Original Message - From: Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 7:17 PM Subject: [Mac-access]: How do I add a Spanish keyboard layout to my Mac? Hi all - Thanks to Anne I now have accented lettering sorted out, but following her suggestion, I’ve had a good look around my system, but can’t see anywhere to add a second keyboard. I’ve looked under keyboard in system preferences, but nothing there it seems. In the meantime, can anybody tell me how to create a inverted question mark, this is something used regularly in Spanish, but I can’t find it on this regular keyboard layout - Andy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: How do I add a Spanish keyboard layout to my Mac?
I did put shift, plus option plus question mark Andy. Eleanor - Original Message - From: Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: How do I add a Spanish keyboard layout to my Mac? Eleanor - Almost, Shift with option and question does it. Thanks - Andy On 6 Nov 2014, at 19:30, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: Try Shift+Option+? and let me know if it works. Eleanor - Original Message - From: Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 7:17 PM Subject: [Mac-access]: How do I add a Spanish keyboard layout to my Mac? Hi all - Thanks to Anne I now have accented lettering sorted out, but following her suggestion, I’ve had a good look around my system, but can’t see anywhere to add a second keyboard. I’ve looked under keyboard in system preferences, but nothing there it seems. In the meantime, can anybody tell me how to create a inverted question mark, this is something used regularly in Spanish, but I can’t find it on this regular keyboard layout - Andy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: How do I add a Spanish keyboard layout to my Mac?
So far, I’m not an iCloud user - Andy On 6 Nov 2014, at 19:23, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: have you tried the Spanish keyboard on your phone?maybe you could then save in iCloud. On 6 Nov 2014, at 19:17, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi all - Thanks to Anne I now have accented lettering sorted out, but following her suggestion, I’ve had a good look around my system, but can’t see anywhere to add a second keyboard. I’ve looked under keyboard in system preferences, but nothing there it seems. In the meantime, can anybody tell me how to create a inverted question mark, this is something used regularly in Spanish, but I can’t find it on this regular keyboard layout - Andy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: How do I add a Spanish keyboard layout to my Mac?
Hi! Under keyboard in system preferences select the input sources tab and you can choose a new keyboard from there! And if you like can choose to put the keyboards menu in [menu extras] and I think you might be able to switch using the Rota! HTH Colin On 6 Nov 2014, at 19:56, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi all - Thanks to Anne I now have accented lettering sorted out, but following her suggestion, I’ve had a good look around my system, but can’t see anywhere to add a second keyboard. I’ve looked under keyboard in system preferences, but nothing there it seems. In the meantime, can anybody tell me how to create a inverted question mark, this is something used regularly in Spanish, but I can’t find it on this regular keyboard layout - Andy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
[Mac-access]: Bt keyboard problem may be solved
I kept getting double letters when using my Apple BT keyboard. So I did a factory reset and now the keyboard is performing normally. Also, I can move icons around the screen and in to folders using the Vo shift m command. I'm running IOS 8.1. Sent from my iPhone --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
[Mac-access]: Need tips on using Apple Bluetooth keyboard that doesn't have a Control Key
Hi, I have a student who just bought an iPad Mini and a Apple Bluetooth keyboard the same size. It seems to be a nice keyboard but does not have a Control key. On the left of the Spacebar are only the Function, Option and Command keys, and on the right is a key that appears to just be a dictation or Siri key. I've tried all sorts of key combinations to simulate the Control-Option combo with no success. If anyone has any suggestions on how to perform VO commands without a Control key, I'd appreciate your guidance. Thanks, Tonia Tonia Gatton Assistive Technology Specialist Kentucky career Center KY Office for the Blind Charles W. McDowell Center 8412 Westport Road Louisville, KY 40242 (502) 429-4460 ext. 268 (502) 429-7101 tonia.gat...@ky.gov --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Need tips on using Apple Bluetooth keyboard that doesn't have a Control Key
is there an option to change the function of the keys On 31 Oct 2014, at 16:33, Gatton, Tonia (OFB-LV) tonia.gat...@ky.gov wrote: Hi, I have a student who just bought an iPad Mini and a Apple Bluetooth keyboard the same size. It seems to be a nice keyboard but does not have a Control key. On the left of the Spacebar are only the Function, Option and Command keys, and on the right is a key that appears to just be a dictation or Siri key. I've tried all sorts of key combinations to simulate the Control-Option combo with no success. If anyone has any suggestions on how to perform VO commands without a Control key, I'd appreciate your guidance. Thanks, Tonia Tonia Gatton Assistive Technology Specialist Kentucky career Center KY Office for the Blind Charles W. McDowell Center 8412 Westport Road Louisville, KY 40242 (502) 429-4460 ext. 268 (502) 429-7101 tonia.gat...@ky.gov --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Need tips on using Apple Bluetooth keyboard that doesn't have a Control Key
Hi all, I am using an apple wireless keyboard on my mac and this has a control key. Does apple have some new keyboards that I do not know about. Thanks,. Matthew matthew dyer sent from my 27 inch iMac. facebook, facetime and iMessage: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com Skype: graduater2004 On Oct 31, 2014, at 12:48 PM, eleanor martha burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: is there an option to change the function of the keys On 31 Oct 2014, at 16:33, Gatton, Tonia (OFB-LV) tonia.gat...@ky.gov wrote: Hi, I have a student who just bought an iPad Mini and a Apple Bluetooth keyboard the same size. It seems to be a nice keyboard but does not have a Control key. On the left of the Spacebar are only the Function, Option and Command keys, and on the right is a key that appears to just be a dictation or Siri key. I've tried all sorts of key combinations to simulate the Control-Option combo with no success. If anyone has any suggestions on how to perform VO commands without a Control key, I'd appreciate your guidance. Thanks, Tonia Tonia Gatton Assistive Technology Specialist Kentucky career Center KY Office for the Blind Charles W. McDowell Center 8412 Westport Road Louisville, KY 40242 (502) 429-4460 ext. 268 (502) 429-7101 tonia.gat...@ky.gov --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Problem using BT keyboard since IOS81
I have noticed that since the update, I can no longer use the BT key board to reply to email or input contacts in the phone. When adding a contact, after a few letters, VO starts stuttering and I have to exit the phone app. When replying to a message, it puts my reply at the end of the mail. I can't get the cursor to go to the top of the document. Has anyone else noticed this? Sent from my iPhone --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Bluetooth keyboard on IOS 8 I Am Not Happy!
I am not having this particular problem, but have you tried pushing the up/down arrows together to accomplish a vo-space? Sent from my iPad On Sep 28, 2014, at 5:21 AM, trevor trevor.sco...@btopenworld.com wrote: This is exactly what I have found on my iPad and my iPhone 5. I thought apple were supposedly improving things on the accessibility front. After updating to 8.2, as Martin said the caps lock is permently on, and, for some reason known only to apple, quick nav is also on by default when you start up the iPhone or iPad. with quick nav on, you can navigate left and right through the apps but V O space does nothing, nor, does enter. It is absolutely useless and not worth bothering with. Someone at apple has really messed up this time and I hope they put it right quickly. Trevor -Original Message- From: Martin G. McCormick Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 5:27 AM To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard on IOS 8 I Am Not Happy! As one who works, at least for a few more months, in networking and computing, I think we should upgrade our operating system whenever possible to the current state of the art for one's own security if nothing else. The hackers and crackers out there have usually figured out how to break in to older systems and the script monkeys happily spread the mischief around. It used to be they did it for bragging rights or because they were angry at someone else but now it's even more important to stay current because organized crime is involved and some of these exploits even have the backing of governments. So, stupid me, I decided to go ahead and upgrade my iPad to IOS8 today. Big mistake! This is a copy of the message I sent to accessibil...@apple.com. I suspect it will have no effect whatsoever, but I sent it after much thought and some cooling down. Message follows: Subject: IOS8 is Almost Totally Inaccessible. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Bluetooth keyboard on IOS 8 I Am Not Happy!
I am not having this particular problem, but have you tried pushing the up/down arrows together to accomplish a vo-space? Sent from my iPad On Sep 28, 2014, at 5:21 AM, trevor trevor.sco...@btopenworld.com wrote: This is exactly what I have found on my iPad and my iPhone 5. I thought apple were supposedly improving things on the accessibility front. After updating to 8.2, as Martin said the caps lock is permently on, and, for some reason known only to apple, quick nav is also on by default when you start up the iPhone or iPad. with quick nav on, you can navigate left and right through the apps but V O space does nothing, nor, does enter. It is absolutely useless and not worth bothering with. Someone at apple has really messed up this time and I hope they put it right quickly. Trevor -Original Message- From: Martin G. McCormick Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 5:27 AM To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard on IOS 8 I Am Not Happy! As one who works, at least for a few more months, in networking and computing, I think we should upgrade our operating system whenever possible to the current state of the art for one's own security if nothing else. The hackers and crackers out there have usually figured out how to break in to older systems and the script monkeys happily spread the mischief around. It used to be they did it for bragging rights or because they were angry at someone else but now it's even more important to stay current because organized crime is involved and some of these exploits even have the backing of governments. So, stupid me, I decided to go ahead and upgrade my iPad to IOS8 today. Big mistake! This is a copy of the message I sent to accessibil...@apple.com. I suspect it will have no effect whatsoever, but I sent it after much thought and some cooling down. Message follows: Subject: IOS8 is Almost Totally Inaccessible. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Bluetooth keyboard on IOS 8 I Am Not Happy!
Hi Diane, Thank you for you help but I have got it fixed now. I did what Martin suggested and everything is working fine. Thanks again, TrevorOn 1 Oct 2014, at 11:59, Diane Bomar bomon...@earthlink.net wrote: I am not having this particular problem, but have you tried pushing the up/down arrows together to accomplish a vo-space? Sent from my iPad On Sep 28, 2014, at 5:21 AM, trevor trevor.sco...@btopenworld.com wrote: This is exactly what I have found on my iPad and my iPhone 5. I thought apple were supposedly improving things on the accessibility front. After updating to 8.2, as Martin said the caps lock is permently on, and, for some reason known only to apple, quick nav is also on by default when you start up the iPhone or iPad. with quick nav on, you can navigate left and right through the apps but V O space does nothing, nor, does enter. It is absolutely useless and not worth bothering with. Someone at apple has really messed up this time and I hope they put it right quickly. Trevor -Original Message- From: Martin G. McCormick Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 5:27 AM To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard on IOS 8 I Am Not Happy! As one who works, at least for a few more months, in networking and computing, I think we should upgrade our operating system whenever possible to the current state of the art for one's own security if nothing else. The hackers and crackers out there have usually figured out how to break in to older systems and the script monkeys happily spread the mischief around. It used to be they did it for bragging rights or because they were angry at someone else but now it's even more important to stay current because organized crime is involved and some of these exploits even have the backing of governments. So, stupid me, I decided to go ahead and upgrade my iPad to IOS8 today. Big mistake! This is a copy of the message I sent to accessibil...@apple.com. I suspect it will have no effect whatsoever, but I sent it after much thought and some cooling down. Message follows: Subject: IOS8 is Almost Totally Inaccessible. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Bluetooth keyboard on IOS 8 I Am Not Happy!
At least on the Apple BT keyboard, you can press the top right key and when VO says keyboard hidden, press any key and then the top right key again. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 1, 2014, at 5:59 AM, Diane Bomar bomon...@earthlink.net wrote: I am not having this particular problem, but have you tried pushing the up/down arrows together to accomplish a vo-space? Sent from my iPad On Sep 28, 2014, at 5:21 AM, trevor trevor.sco...@btopenworld.com wrote: This is exactly what I have found on my iPad and my iPhone 5. I thought apple were supposedly improving things on the accessibility front. After updating to 8.2, as Martin said the caps lock is permently on, and, for some reason known only to apple, quick nav is also on by default when you start up the iPhone or iPad. with quick nav on, you can navigate left and right through the apps but V O space does nothing, nor, does enter. It is absolutely useless and not worth bothering with. Someone at apple has really messed up this time and I hope they put it right quickly. Trevor -Original Message- From: Martin G. McCormick Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 5:27 AM To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard on IOS 8 I Am Not Happy! As one who works, at least for a few more months, in networking and computing, I think we should upgrade our operating system whenever possible to the current state of the art for one's own security if nothing else. The hackers and crackers out there have usually figured out how to break in to older systems and the script monkeys happily spread the mischief around. It used to be they did it for bragging rights or because they were angry at someone else but now it's even more important to stay current because organized crime is involved and some of these exploits even have the backing of governments. So, stupid me, I decided to go ahead and upgrade my iPad to IOS8 today. Big mistake! This is a copy of the message I sent to accessibil...@apple.com. I suspect it will have no effect whatsoever, but I sent it after much thought and some cooling down. Message follows: Subject: IOS8 is Almost Totally Inaccessible. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Bluetooth keyboard on IOS 8 I Am Not Happy!
Tha'ts the work around I've been doing since ios7 when that bug cropped up. and the same is true on my logitech k760 solar powered keyboard as well. Take care. On Oct 1, 2014, at 6:29 AM, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote: At least on the Apple BT keyboard, you can press the top right key and when VO says keyboard hidden, press any key and then the top right key again. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 1, 2014, at 5:59 AM, Diane Bomar bomon...@earthlink.net wrote: I am not having this particular problem, but have you tried pushing the up/down arrows together to accomplish a vo-space? Sent from my iPad On Sep 28, 2014, at 5:21 AM, trevor trevor.sco...@btopenworld.com wrote: This is exactly what I have found on my iPad and my iPhone 5. I thought apple were supposedly improving things on the accessibility front. After updating to 8.2, as Martin said the caps lock is permently on, and, for some reason known only to apple, quick nav is also on by default when you start up the iPhone or iPad. with quick nav on, you can navigate left and right through the apps but V O space does nothing, nor, does enter. It is absolutely useless and not worth bothering with. Someone at apple has really messed up this time and I hope they put it right quickly. Trevor -Original Message- From: Martin G. McCormick Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 5:27 AM To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard on IOS 8 I Am Not Happy! As one who works, at least for a few more months, in networking and computing, I think we should upgrade our operating system whenever possible to the current state of the art for one's own security if nothing else. The hackers and crackers out there have usually figured out how to break in to older systems and the script monkeys happily spread the mischief around. It used to be they did it for bragging rights or because they were angry at someone else but now it's even more important to stay current because organized crime is involved and some of these exploits even have the backing of governments. So, stupid me, I decided to go ahead and upgrade my iPad to IOS8 today. Big mistake! This is a copy of the message I sent to accessibil...@apple.com. I suspect it will have no effect whatsoever, but I sent it after much thought and some cooling down. Message follows: Subject: IOS8 is Almost Totally Inaccessible. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership
Re: Bluetooth keyboard on IOS 8 I Am Not Happy!
This is exactly what I have found on my iPad and my iPhone 5. I thought apple were supposedly improving things on the accessibility front. After updating to 8.2, as Martin said the caps lock is permently on, and, for some reason known only to apple, quick nav is also on by default when you start up the iPhone or iPad. with quick nav on, you can navigate left and right through the apps but V O space does nothing, nor, does enter. It is absolutely useless and not worth bothering with. Someone at apple has really messed up this time and I hope they put it right quickly. Trevor -Original Message- From: Martin G. McCormick Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 5:27 AM To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard on IOS 8 I Am Not Happy! As one who works, at least for a few more months, in networking and computing, I think we should upgrade our operating system whenever possible to the current state of the art for one's own security if nothing else. The hackers and crackers out there have usually figured out how to break in to older systems and the script monkeys happily spread the mischief around. It used to be they did it for bragging rights or because they were angry at someone else but now it's even more important to stay current because organized crime is involved and some of these exploits even have the backing of governments. So, stupid me, I decided to go ahead and upgrade my iPad to IOS8 today. Big mistake! This is a copy of the message I sent to accessibil...@apple.com. I suspect it will have no effect whatsoever, but I sent it after much thought and some cooling down. Message follows: Subject: IOS8 is Almost Totally Inaccessible. I am a systems engineer with Oklahoma State University who specializes in unix system programming and who enjoys solving technical issues as well as building electronic and mechanical things. I also happen to be a computer user who is blind and have used accessibility features in Linux andApple's OSX and IOS platforms. When I bought my iPad a couple of years ago, it came with IOS6.x installed and I was happy with the way voiceover worked. I did also buy a Logitech Bluetooth keyboard which is almost indispensable when entering large amounts of text or passwords. The on-screen keyboard is not impossible for a person who is blind to use, but it is awkward. Frankly, I much prefer real keys to hunting and tapping any day. When IOS7 came out, I upgraded to that and the BT keyboard was a little more quirky than before, but I had no trouble using it. One just got used to the way it behaved and there were no real show stoppers. If anybody knows that complex systems do not always work has hoped, it is me so one expects the occasional glitch or bug when something new comes out but the following is beyond ridiculous. On September 27 of 2014, I upgraded to IOS8.0.2 and that was a huge mistake. The bluetooth keyboard now is completely useless except for two very specific conditions: 1. All the control functions such as Escape, F11 and F12 actually still work. 2. The letters and numbers will still work when inside an application such as within a text-edit field but they do nothing when trying to navigate the screen. The iPad does emit a sound when the keyboard is switched on and off so it is not loosing contact. The Caps-Lock key always reports that Caps lock is on each time it is pressed but the resulting characters sent to a text application do reflect the correct case so all the scan codes are obviously being received and translated correctly. I would love to have my iPad back. It's loaded with possibilities and I downloaded the upgrade in good faith that it would cause the system to work better and be more secure. I was wrong and I am not happy at this time. Sincerely, Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group End of quoted message. At this time, I don't have any apps on the iPad that are very important so I wasn't too worried and wasn't really watching out for things like bluetooth keyboards not working any longer as that support is part of the OS and should be something that gets caught very early. It should be kind of like shipping ten-thousand washing machines without their power cords or drive motors. I have had a Linux upgrade go really badly, once, but that was totally my fault and hey, it's free anyway and I had backups of all the important stuff. One kind of expects better out of a multi-million-dollar corporation but I am not sure real adults are in charge of much of anything any more. Oh well, I am just blowing off steam now. Martin --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's
Re: Bluetooth keyboard on IOS 8 I Am Not Happy!
Acugtally qn is quite useful. just turn it off if you don't like it. no big deal. On Sep 28, 2014, at 4:21 AM, trevor trevor.sco...@btopenworld.com wrote: This is exactly what I have found on my iPad and my iPhone 5. I thought apple were supposedly improving things on the accessibility front. After updating to 8.2, as Martin said the caps lock is permently on, and, for some reason known only to apple, quick nav is also on by default when you start up the iPhone or iPad. with quick nav on, you can navigate left and right through the apps but V O space does nothing, nor, does enter. It is absolutely useless and not worth bothering with. Someone at apple has really messed up this time and I hope they put it right quickly. Trevor -Original Message- From: Martin G. McCormick Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 5:27 AM To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard on IOS 8 I Am Not Happy! As one who works, at least for a few more months, in networking and computing, I think we should upgrade our operating system whenever possible to the current state of the art for one's own security if nothing else. The hackers and crackers out there have usually figured out how to break in to older systems and the script monkeys happily spread the mischief around. It used to be they did it for bragging rights or because they were angry at someone else but now it's even more important to stay current because organized crime is involved and some of these exploits even have the backing of governments. So, stupid me, I decided to go ahead and upgrade my iPad to IOS8 today. Big mistake! This is a copy of the message I sent to accessibil...@apple.com. I suspect it will have no effect whatsoever, but I sent it after much thought and some cooling down. Message follows: Subject: IOS8 is Almost Totally Inaccessible. I am a systems engineer with Oklahoma State University who specializes in unix system programming and who enjoys solving technical issues as well as building electronic and mechanical things. I also happen to be a computer user who is blind and have used accessibility features in Linux andApple's OSX and IOS platforms. When I bought my iPad a couple of years ago, it came with IOS6.x installed and I was happy with the way voiceover worked. I did also buy a Logitech Bluetooth keyboard which is almost indispensable when entering large amounts of text or passwords. The on-screen keyboard is not impossible for a person who is blind to use, but it is awkward. Frankly, I much prefer real keys to hunting and tapping any day. When IOS7 came out, I upgraded to that and the BT keyboard was a little more quirky than before, but I had no trouble using it. One just got used to the way it behaved and there were no real show stoppers. If anybody knows that complex systems do not always work has hoped, it is me so one expects the occasional glitch or bug when something new comes out but the following is beyond ridiculous. On September 27 of 2014, I upgraded to IOS8.0.2 and that was a huge mistake. The bluetooth keyboard now is completely useless except for two very specific conditions: 1. All the control functions such as Escape, F11 and F12 actually still work. 2. The letters and numbers will still work when inside an application such as within a text-edit field but they do nothing when trying to navigate the screen. The iPad does emit a sound when the keyboard is switched on and off so it is not loosing contact. The Caps-Lock key always reports that Caps lock is on each time it is pressed but the resulting characters sent to a text application do reflect the correct case so all the scan codes are obviously being received and translated correctly. I would love to have my iPad back. It's loaded with possibilities and I downloaded the upgrade in good faith that it would cause the system to work better and be more secure. I was wrong and I am not happy at this time. Sincerely, Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group End of quoted message. At this time, I don't have any apps on the iPad that are very important so I wasn't too worried and wasn't really watching out for things like bluetooth keyboards not working any longer as that support is part of the OS and should be something that gets caught very early. It should be kind of like shipping ten-thousand washing machines without their power cords or drive motors. I have had a Linux upgrade go really badly, once, but that was totally my fault and hey, it's free anyway and I had backups of all the important stuff. One kind of expects better out of a multi-million-dollar corporation but I am not sure real adults are in charge of much of anything any more. Oh well, I am just blowing off steam now. Martin --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply
Re: Bluetooth keyboard on IOS 8 I Am Not Happy! A fix
I got my iPad Back. Am I sorry about all those nasty things I said about Apple? Not in the least because this is big business at it's worst. Okay. Enough whining and griping from me. Here is the fix. It was aimed at iPhone users, but it does work on the iPad just fine. As in most software bugs, things aren't what they appear to be. The Caps-lock works correctly but the reporting of it's status is what is broken. I will condense what little I have learned so far. From:Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com She reported that turning quicknav on helps. You do that by pressing the Left-arrow and Right-arrow keys simultaneously. The system reports that quicknav is on. This gives you your arrows back but I would call this teaser mode because you can't yet click on/select any of the fields that are tantalizingly now reported as you arrow back and forth. Also, another bug in IOS8 is that voiceover crashes when one is using the arrow keys plus probably a few other things. The system goes silent briefly and you here Voiceover on and find that you are now back at the start of the list of available links to arrow through. This is annoying but if you arrow through things a little more slowly, it seems to crash less often. Time to go down another rabbit hole. One of the google searches I did turned up the following set of instructions on applevis. Follow these carefully. The following words are not mine but lifted from the email being referenced. Quoting: AppleVis If your Bluetooth keyboard doesn't work with VoiceOver except just a few functions in iOS 8.0, try the following steps to resolve the issue. Once the problem disappears, it doesn't appear again unless you change the iPhone language in Settings, General, Language Region. To make the problem disappear from your iPhone, follow these steps: 1. If you use just one software keyboard, temporarily add an arbitrary one in Settings, General, Keyboard, Keyboards, Add New Keyboard. 2. Open the Notes app. 3. Create a new note. 4. Press the left arrow key and the right arrow key simultaneously to turn off the quick navigation option. 5. Hold down the command key and press the space key several times to cycle through the list of software keyboards. 6. Press the left arrow key and the right arrow key simultaneously to turn on the quick navigation option. 7. Now your Bluetooth keyboard should work fine except other iOS bugs. 8. You may delete the software keyboard temporarily added at Settings, General, Keyboard, Keyboards. This is a copy of the email sent to RiVO customers to resolve the issue (http://goo.gl/GiBvWy) since it should also resolve the problem for other Bluetooth keyboards as well. End of quote This is Martin speaking now. After activating notes from the touch screen, I selected compose and did as the instructions said. I had selected a Spanish keyboard as the software keyboard so I typed Command+Space and heard Espaniole then English and then Espaniole again as there were now two software keyboards. I left it on English. You then just get out of notes and the BT KB now works as well as it did in IOS6. The IOS8 accessibility stack was simply not ready for prime time. While I do not have any inside knowledge of how the OS works, it appears that various parts of the system are not speaking to each other during installation and setup. If your are using an English or Russian or Chinese locale, all important modules such as the keyboard translator should understand which character sets to use without the end user having to essentially initialize them. In unix, we call this the environment and make use of environmental variables and it generally works beautifully. IOS is not unix but the concept is an old and tested one. We are using XYZ language so everything that deals with text and fonts knows this and behaves accordingly unless specifically told otherwise. I hope this helps somebody. Knowledge is worth a lot more when it is concentrated in one place. Treasure hunts are fun and challenging but sometimes, we just want stuff to work. Martin --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences
Re: Bluetooth keyboard on IOS 8 I Am Not Happy! A fix
Hello Martin, You didn’t have to upgrade. Your choice. Why not wait for a few weeks and see how the people who have non-production devices test the new releases. Gena On 28 Sep 2014, at 18:32, Martin G. McCormick mar...@server1.shellworld.net wrote: I got my iPad Back. Am I sorry about all those nasty things I said about Apple? Not in the least because this is big business at it's worst. Okay. Enough whining and griping from me. Here is the fix. It was aimed at iPhone users, but it does work on the iPad just fine. As in most software bugs, things aren't what they appear to be. The Caps-lock works correctly but the reporting of it's status is what is broken. I will condense what little I have learned so far. From:Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com She reported that turning quicknav on helps. You do that by pressing the Left-arrow and Right-arrow keys simultaneously. The system reports that quicknav is on. This gives you your arrows back but I would call this teaser mode because you can't yet click on/select any of the fields that are tantalizingly now reported as you arrow back and forth. Also, another bug in IOS8 is that voiceover crashes when one is using the arrow keys plus probably a few other things. The system goes silent briefly and you here Voiceover on and find that you are now back at the start of the list of available links to arrow through. This is annoying but if you arrow through things a little more slowly, it seems to crash less often. Time to go down another rabbit hole. One of the google searches I did turned up the following set of instructions on applevis. Follow these carefully. The following words are not mine but lifted from the email being referenced. Quoting: AppleVis If your Bluetooth keyboard doesn't work with VoiceOver except just a few functions in iOS 8.0, try the following steps to resolve the issue. Once the problem disappears, it doesn't appear again unless you change the iPhone language in Settings, General, Language Region. To make the problem disappear from your iPhone, follow these steps: 1. If you use just one software keyboard, temporarily add an arbitrary one in Settings, General, Keyboard, Keyboards, Add New Keyboard. 2. Open the Notes app. 3. Create a new note. 4. Press the left arrow key and the right arrow key simultaneously to turn off the quick navigation option. 5. Hold down the command key and press the space key several times to cycle through the list of software keyboards. 6. Press the left arrow key and the right arrow key simultaneously to turn on the quick navigation option. 7. Now your Bluetooth keyboard should work fine except other iOS bugs. 8. You may delete the software keyboard temporarily added at Settings, General, Keyboard, Keyboards. This is a copy of the email sent to RiVO customers to resolve the issue (http://goo.gl/GiBvWy) since it should also resolve the problem for other Bluetooth keyboards as well. End of quote This is Martin speaking now. After activating notes from the touch screen, I selected compose and did as the instructions said. I had selected a Spanish keyboard as the software keyboard so I typed Command+Space and heard Espaniole then English and then Espaniole again as there were now two software keyboards. I left it on English. You then just get out of notes and the BT KB now works as well as it did in IOS6. The IOS8 accessibility stack was simply not ready for prime time. While I do not have any inside knowledge of how the OS works, it appears that various parts of the system are not speaking to each other during installation and setup. If your are using an English or Russian or Chinese locale, all important modules such as the keyboard translator should understand which character sets to use without the end user having to essentially initialize them. In unix, we call this the environment and make use of environmental variables and it generally works beautifully. IOS is not unix but the concept is an old and tested one. We are using XYZ language so everything that deals with text and fonts knows this and behaves accordingly unless specifically told otherwise. I hope this helps somebody. Knowledge is worth a lot more when it is concentrated in one place. Treasure hunts are fun and challenging but sometimes, we just want stuff to work. Martin --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure
Re: Bluetooth keyboard on IOS 8 I Am Not Happy! A fix
You know, this is one thing (not just on this list, but everywhere) where folks get ribbed because they upgrade, then have issues. Yet, if anyone mentions that they're not running the latest release (such as I've done on a number of occasions) because of issues with that release, you get ribbed, because you're not upgrading and taking the issues, because they can and will be worked around. Honestly, I find it a bit irritating. I have learned to ignore it, mostly because I don't care about tech support, rarely call for it, and have no issue fixing my own hardware (most of the time), so for me, having 10 or even 20 year old equipment doesn't bother me in the least, but when I mention to someone that I have a computer running windows xp pro, that is 10 years old, or that I have an iphone 3gs, or 4s, or that I'm running osx 10.5 or 10.6, the response is nearly always, You need to upgrade That's all well and good if someone can afford to do so, and/ or if they want to do so, but some folks are perfectly happy with what they have, and don't want or need the latest and greatest, and perhaps have other equipment in addition to what's being discussed, yet, it seems to be antisocial, or anti technology, if someone doesn't want to upgrade for whatever reason. Could we please stop casting aspersions on the versions of hardware/software folks are using, and just offer help where possible, and keep quiet otherwise? Honestly, I don't care if someone is running 10.4 tiger, or 10.9 mavericks, if they have a problem, and I know how to fix it, then I'm always willing to assist, and the version of their hardware/software should have no bearing on that issue. Sure, sometimes, problems are fixed in later releases, and there's nothing wrong with pointing that out, but it really needs to be done in a friendly optional manner, not in a rude direct confrontation method, as I've seen all too often here and elsewhere. I'm not a moderator, and I have nothing to do with the running of any portion of the mac-access sites or anything else relating to the list or equipment running it, I'm simply a list user who has withdrawn, and participated less and less as time goes on, because frankly, the level of snobbery on this list has truly astounded me. I realize this isn't really a matter for me to raise directly on list, but sorry folks, it's just finally gotten on my nerves one too many times. Responses like the below do nothing to help, and often cause antagonism, which really isn't necessary. Can we please keep things civil, and stop with the sniping at folks who aren't running the versions others have? Please? On Sep 28, 2014, at 4:10 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote: Hello Martin, You didn’t have to upgrade. Your choice. Why not wait for a few weeks and see how the people who have non-production devices test the new releases. Gena On 28 Sep 2014, at 18:32, Martin G. McCormick mar...@server1.shellworld.net wrote: I got my iPad Back. Am I sorry about all those nasty things I said about Apple? Not in the least because this is big business at it's worst. Okay. Enough whining and griping from me. Here is the fix. It was aimed at iPhone users, but it does work on the iPad just fine. As in most software bugs, things aren't what they appear to be. The Caps-lock works correctly but the reporting of it's status is what is broken. I will condense what little I have learned so far. From:Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com She reported that turning quicknav on helps. You do that by pressing the Left-arrow and Right-arrow keys simultaneously. The system reports that quicknav is on. This gives you your arrows back but I would call this teaser mode because you can't yet click on/select any of the fields that are tantalizingly now reported as you arrow back and forth. Also, another bug in IOS8 is that voiceover crashes when one is using the arrow keys plus probably a few other things. The system goes silent briefly and you here Voiceover on and find that you are now back at the start of the list of available links to arrow through. This is annoying but if you arrow through things a little more slowly, it seems to crash less often. Time to go down another rabbit hole. One of the google searches I did turned up the following set of instructions on applevis. Follow these carefully. The following words are not mine but lifted from the email being referenced. Quoting: AppleVis If your Bluetooth keyboard doesn't work with VoiceOver except just a few functions in iOS 8.0, try the following steps to resolve the issue. Once the problem disappears, it doesn't appear again unless you change the iPhone language in Settings, General, Language Region. To make the problem disappear from your iPhone, follow these steps: 1. If you use just one software keyboard, temporarily add an arbitrary one
Re: Bluetooth keyboard on IOS 8 I Am Not Happy!
As one who works, at least for a few more months, in networking and computing, I think we should upgrade our operating system whenever possible to the current state of the art for one's own security if nothing else. The hackers and crackers out there have usually figured out how to break in to older systems and the script monkeys happily spread the mischief around. It used to be they did it for bragging rights or because they were angry at someone else but now it's even more important to stay current because organized crime is involved and some of these exploits even have the backing of governments. So, stupid me, I decided to go ahead and upgrade my iPad to IOS8 today. Big mistake! This is a copy of the message I sent to accessibil...@apple.com. I suspect it will have no effect whatsoever, but I sent it after much thought and some cooling down. Message follows: Subject: IOS8 is Almost Totally Inaccessible. I am a systems engineer with Oklahoma State University who specializes in unix system programming and who enjoys solving technical issues as well as building electronic and mechanical things. I also happen to be a computer user who is blind and have used accessibility features in Linux andApple's OSX and IOS platforms. When I bought my iPad a couple of years ago, it came with IOS6.x installed and I was happy with the way voiceover worked. I did also buy a Logitech Bluetooth keyboard which is almost indispensable when entering large amounts of text or passwords. The on-screen keyboard is not impossible for a person who is blind to use, but it is awkward. Frankly, I much prefer real keys to hunting and tapping any day. When IOS7 came out, I upgraded to that and the BT keyboard was a little more quirky than before, but I had no trouble using it. One just got used to the way it behaved and there were no real show stoppers. If anybody knows that complex systems do not always work has hoped, it is me so one expects the occasional glitch or bug when something new comes out but the following is beyond ridiculous. On September 27 of 2014, I upgraded to IOS8.0.2 and that was a huge mistake. The bluetooth keyboard now is completely useless except for two very specific conditions: 1. All the control functions such as Escape, F11 and F12 actually still work. 2. The letters and numbers will still work when inside an application such as within a text-edit field but they do nothing when trying to navigate the screen. The iPad does emit a sound when the keyboard is switched on and off so it is not loosing contact. The Caps-Lock key always reports that Caps lock is on each time it is pressed but the resulting characters sent to a text application do reflect the correct case so all the scan codes are obviously being received and translated correctly. I would love to have my iPad back. It's loaded with possibilities and I downloaded the upgrade in good faith that it would cause the system to work better and be more secure. I was wrong and I am not happy at this time. Sincerely, Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group End of quoted message. At this time, I don't have any apps on the iPad that are very important so I wasn't too worried and wasn't really watching out for things like bluetooth keyboards not working any longer as that support is part of the OS and should be something that gets caught very early. It should be kind of like shipping ten-thousand washing machines without their power cords or drive motors. I have had a Linux upgrade go really badly, once, but that was totally my fault and hey, it's free anyway and I had backups of all the important stuff. One kind of expects better out of a multi-million-dollar corporation but I am not sure real adults are in charge of much of anything any more. Oh well, I am just blowing off steam now. Martin --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Bluetooth keyboard on IOS 8 I Am Not Happy!
Tur on and off quick nav to get this to work. This sithe work around. Take care. On Sep 27, 2014, at 9:27 PM, Martin G. McCormick mar...@server1.shellworld.net wrote: As one who works, at least for a few more months, in networking and computing, I think we should upgrade our operating system whenever possible to the current state of the art for one's own security if nothing else. The hackers and crackers out there have usually figured out how to break in to older systems and the script monkeys happily spread the mischief around. It used to be they did it for bragging rights or because they were angry at someone else but now it's even more important to stay current because organized crime is involved and some of these exploits even have the backing of governments. So, stupid me, I decided to go ahead and upgrade my iPad to IOS8 today. Big mistake! This is a copy of the message I sent to accessibil...@apple.com. I suspect it will have no effect whatsoever, but I sent it after much thought and some cooling down. Message follows: Subject: IOS8 is Almost Totally Inaccessible. I am a systems engineer with Oklahoma State University who specializes in unix system programming and who enjoys solving technical issues as well as building electronic and mechanical things. I also happen to be a computer user who is blind and have used accessibility features in Linux andApple's OSX and IOS platforms. When I bought my iPad a couple of years ago, it came with IOS6.x installed and I was happy with the way voiceover worked. I did also buy a Logitech Bluetooth keyboard which is almost indispensable when entering large amounts of text or passwords. The on-screen keyboard is not impossible for a person who is blind to use, but it is awkward. Frankly, I much prefer real keys to hunting and tapping any day. When IOS7 came out, I upgraded to that and the BT keyboard was a little more quirky than before, but I had no trouble using it. One just got used to the way it behaved and there were no real show stoppers. If anybody knows that complex systems do not always work has hoped, it is me so one expects the occasional glitch or bug when something new comes out but the following is beyond ridiculous. On September 27 of 2014, I upgraded to IOS8.0.2 and that was a huge mistake. The bluetooth keyboard now is completely useless except for two very specific conditions: 1. All the control functions such as Escape, F11 and F12 actually still work. 2. The letters and numbers will still work when inside an application such as within a text-edit field but they do nothing when trying to navigate the screen. The iPad does emit a sound when the keyboard is switched on and off so it is not loosing contact. The Caps-Lock key always reports that Caps lock is on each time it is pressed but the resulting characters sent to a text application do reflect the correct case so all the scan codes are obviously being received and translated correctly. I would love to have my iPad back. It's loaded with possibilities and I downloaded the upgrade in good faith that it would cause the system to work better and be more secure. I was wrong and I am not happy at this time. Sincerely, Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group End of quoted message. At this time, I don't have any apps on the iPad that are very important so I wasn't too worried and wasn't really watching out for things like bluetooth keyboards not working any longer as that support is part of the OS and should be something that gets caught very early. It should be kind of like shipping ten-thousand washing machines without their power cords or drive motors. I have had a Linux upgrade go really badly, once, but that was totally my fault and hey, it's free anyway and I had backups of all the important stuff. One kind of expects better out of a multi-million-dollar corporation but I am not sure real adults are in charge of much of anything any more. Oh well, I am just blowing off steam now. Martin --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable
Bluetooth keyboard on IOS 8
Hello, Many thanks for the info on touch typing on IOS 8. I vaguely recall reading some posts about bluetooth keyboards on IOS 8. IS there a problem there? I have been trying to use the iMac ASpp Type2Phone to my new iPhone 5S now running the latest IOS 8. Pressing the arrow keys on the iMac moves the cursor between fields on the iPhone but typing characters on the iMac does not enter them on the iPhone. Any thoughts…. Many thanks. Paul Hopewell --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Bluetooth keyboard on IOS 8
You need to turn off quick nav to get the typing to happen. it is an ios8 issue and happened durin the beta cycle. I did report it but email accessibil...@apple.com to see if they can fix it. On Sep 25, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote: Hello, Many thanks for the info on touch typing on IOS 8. I vaguely recall reading some posts about bluetooth keyboards on IOS 8. IS there a problem there? I have been trying to use the iMac ASpp Type2Phone to my new iPhone 5S now running the latest IOS 8. Pressing the arrow keys on the iMac moves the cursor between fields on the iPhone but typing characters on the iMac does not enter them on the iPhone. Any thoughts…. Many thanks. Paul Hopewell --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: IOS 8 and Bluetooth keyboard
Excellent follow-up info. Thank you. Sent from my iPad On Sep 21, 2014, at 1:14 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I already reported in the public cycle. They said they would look in to it. I heard that they have a dedicated team to close duplicate bug reports so if all of are bus are being closed due to being duplicates I see no point in reporting the bugs I've been reporting. I still do it though. On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:26 PM, Sue Bernardo s...@mindspring.com wrote: Work arounds aside, it is a bug and Apple needs to be bugged to fix it. I did speak with the Apple engineer and he said that it will continue to be reported as a bug and likely will be fixed within one of the updates to iOS 8 that will be released in the next few weeks. I had the feeling that if there aren't enough people making noise about this the problem won't be brought to the top of the pile of problems. Also, as someone on this list pointed out, the bug has been reported in a beta cycle, so it isn't an unknown problem. If noise isn't made it won't get resolved. Making noise on here or on Twitter is good to get the word out about the problem so that if people who make significant use of the keyboard don't want to be inconvenienced they can stick with iOS 7, but contacting Apple in your preferred manner and letting them know that making it inconvenient to use a Bluetooth keyboard is an unacceptable accessibility feature is also a good idea.. They seemed receptive t o addressing user issues. Cheers! Sue B. On 9/19/14, 1:28 PM, Juanita Martin wrote: I'm using the BT keyboard and as long as Quick Nav is off, everything is fine. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Sue Bernardo s...@mindspring.com wrote: Has anyone else had problems with doing some of the common Voice Over Gestures on a Bluetooth keyboard since upgrading to iOS 8? I've been in contact with Apple about this and it would help to tell them if others are having the same problem. Which keyboard brand are you using if you aren't having issues? I've tried 2 keyboards and commands like VO-SPACEBAR simply do nothing. Would love to hear how it is working for others. I've got an escalated call set up with Apple for later today. Thanks, Sue B. Sent from my iPad --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: IOS 8 and Bluetooth keyboard
Yeah tha'ts what I heard over twitter. Tha'ts where I go tthe work around. tAke care. On Sep 19, 2014, at 8:28 PM, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote: I'm using the BT keyboard and as long as Quick Nav is off, everything is fine. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Sue Bernardo s...@mindspring.com wrote: Has anyone else had problems with doing some of the common Voice Over Gestures on a Bluetooth keyboard since upgrading to iOS 8? I've been in contact with Apple about this and it would help to tell them if others are having the same problem. Which keyboard brand are you using if you aren't having issues? I've tried 2 keyboards and commands like VO-SPACEBAR simply do nothing. Would love to hear how it is working for others. I've got an escalated call set up with Apple for later today. Thanks, Sue B. Sent from my iPad --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: IOS 8 and Bluetooth keyboard
While it works, it also restarts VO and puts your cursor in random places. On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: The bug has been reported. but one work around is to turn of and on quick nav so I hear. You might have to do it a few times. Btw this bug was around since beta 1 of the cycle and I did report it then. Take care. On Sep 19, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Sue Bernardo s...@mindspring.com wrote: Has anyone else had problems with doing some of the common Voice Over Gestures on a Bluetooth keyboard since upgrading to iOS 8? I've been in contact with Apple about this and it would help to tell them if others are having the same problem. Which keyboard brand are you using if you aren't having issues? I've tried 2 keyboards and commands like VO-SPACEBAR simply do nothing. Would love to hear how it is working for others. I've got an escalated call set up with Apple for later today. Thanks, Sue B. Sent from my iPad --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: IOS 8 and Bluetooth keyboard
Well a vo space on the field will fix that. one for start, and another for end of field. Hope that helps. On Sep 20, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com wrote: While it works, it also restarts VO and puts your cursor in random places. On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: The bug has been reported. but one work around is to turn of and on quick nav so I hear. You might have to do it a few times. Btw this bug was around since beta 1 of the cycle and I did report it then. Take care. On Sep 19, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Sue Bernardo s...@mindspring.com wrote: Has anyone else had problems with doing some of the common Voice Over Gestures on a Bluetooth keyboard since upgrading to iOS 8? I've been in contact with Apple about this and it would help to tell them if others are having the same problem. Which keyboard brand are you using if you aren't having issues? I've tried 2 keyboards and commands like VO-SPACEBAR simply do nothing. Would love to hear how it is working for others. I've got an escalated call set up with Apple for later today. Thanks, Sue B. Sent from my iPad --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: IOS 8 and Bluetooth keyboard
Work arounds aside, it is a bug and Apple needs to be bugged to fix it. I did speak with the Apple engineer and he said that it will continue to be reported as a bug and likely will be fixed within one of the updates to iOS 8 that will be released in the next few weeks. I had the feeling that if there aren't enough people making noise about this the problem won't be brought to the top of the pile of problems. Also, as someone on this list pointed out, the bug has been reported in a beta cycle, so it isn't an unknown problem. If noise isn't made it won't get resolved. Making noise on here or on Twitter is good to get the word out about the problem so that if people who make significant use of the keyboard don't want to be inconvenienced they can stick with iOS 7, but contacting Apple in your preferred manner and letting them know that making it inconvenient to use a Bluetooth keyboard is an unacceptable accessibility feature is also a good idea.. They seemed receptive to addressing user issues. Cheers! Sue B. On 9/19/14, 1:28 PM, Juanita Martin wrote: I'm using the BT keyboard and as long as Quick Nav is off, everything is fine. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Sue Bernardo s...@mindspring.com wrote: Has anyone else had problems with doing some of the common Voice Over Gestures on a Bluetooth keyboard since upgrading to iOS 8? I've been in contact with Apple about this and it would help to tell them if others are having the same problem. Which keyboard brand are you using if you aren't having issues? I've tried 2 keyboards and commands like VO-SPACEBAR simply do nothing. Would love to hear how it is working for others. I've got an escalated call set up with Apple for later today. Thanks, Sue B. Sent from my iPad --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: IOS 8 and Bluetooth keyboard
I already reported in the public cycle. They said they would look in to it. I heard that they have a dedicated team to close duplicate bug reports so if all of are bus are being closed due to being duplicates I see no point in reporting the bugs I've been reporting. I still do it though. On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:26 PM, Sue Bernardo s...@mindspring.com wrote: Work arounds aside, it is a bug and Apple needs to be bugged to fix it. I did speak with the Apple engineer and he said that it will continue to be reported as a bug and likely will be fixed within one of the updates to iOS 8 that will be released in the next few weeks. I had the feeling that if there aren't enough people making noise about this the problem won't be brought to the top of the pile of problems. Also, as someone on this list pointed out, the bug has been reported in a beta cycle, so it isn't an unknown problem. If noise isn't made it won't get resolved. Making noise on here or on Twitter is good to get the word out about the problem so that if people who make significant use of the keyboard don't want to be inconvenienced they can stick with iOS 7, but contacting Apple in your preferred manner and letting them know that making it inconvenient to use a Bluetooth keyboard is an unacceptable accessibility feature is also a good idea.. They seemed receptive t o addressing user issues. Cheers! Sue B. On 9/19/14, 1:28 PM, Juanita Martin wrote: I'm using the BT keyboard and as long as Quick Nav is off, everything is fine. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Sue Bernardo s...@mindspring.com wrote: Has anyone else had problems with doing some of the common Voice Over Gestures on a Bluetooth keyboard since upgrading to iOS 8? I've been in contact with Apple about this and it would help to tell them if others are having the same problem. Which keyboard brand are you using if you aren't having issues? I've tried 2 keyboards and commands like VO-SPACEBAR simply do nothing. Would love to hear how it is working for others. I've got an escalated call set up with Apple for later today. Thanks, Sue B. Sent from my iPad --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access
IOS 8 and Bluetooth keyboard
Has anyone else had problems with doing some of the common Voice Over Gestures on a Bluetooth keyboard since upgrading to iOS 8? I've been in contact with Apple about this and it would help to tell them if others are having the same problem. Which keyboard brand are you using if you aren't having issues? I've tried 2 keyboards and commands like VO-SPACEBAR simply do nothing. Would love to hear how it is working for others. I've got an escalated call set up with Apple for later today. Thanks, Sue B. Sent from my iPad --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: IOS 8 and Bluetooth keyboard
Hello. I heard about this problem from another listserv. If indeed there’s a bug here, all the more reason not to upgrade. Never get 1.0 of anything, and iOS 8 appears to be one of them. Matthew Chao On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:29 AM, Sue Bernardo s...@mindspring.com wrote: Has anyone else had problems with doing some of the common Voice Over Gestures on a Bluetooth keyboard since upgrading to iOS 8? I've been in contact with Apple about this and it would help to tell them if others are having the same problem. Which keyboard brand are you using if you aren't having issues? I've tried 2 keyboards and commands like VO-SPACEBAR simply do nothing. Would love to hear how it is working for others. I've got an escalated call set up with Apple for later today. Thanks, Sue B. Sent from my iPad --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: IOS 8 and Bluetooth keyboard
The bug has been reported. but one work around is to turn of and on quick nav so I hear. You might have to do it a few times. Btw this bug was around since beta 1 of the cycle and I did report it then. Take care. On Sep 19, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Sue Bernardo s...@mindspring.com wrote: Has anyone else had problems with doing some of the common Voice Over Gestures on a Bluetooth keyboard since upgrading to iOS 8? I've been in contact with Apple about this and it would help to tell them if others are having the same problem. Which keyboard brand are you using if you aren't having issues? I've tried 2 keyboards and commands like VO-SPACEBAR simply do nothing. Would love to hear how it is working for others. I've got an escalated call set up with Apple for later today. Thanks, Sue B. Sent from my iPad --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: IOS 8 and Bluetooth keyboard
I'm using the BT keyboard and as long as Quick Nav is off, everything is fine. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Sue Bernardo s...@mindspring.com wrote: Has anyone else had problems with doing some of the common Voice Over Gestures on a Bluetooth keyboard since upgrading to iOS 8? I've been in contact with Apple about this and it would help to tell them if others are having the same problem. Which keyboard brand are you using if you aren't having issues? I've tried 2 keyboards and commands like VO-SPACEBAR simply do nothing. Would love to hear how it is working for others. I've got an escalated call set up with Apple for later today. Thanks, Sue B. Sent from my iPad --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo
Hello Isaac, It’s a very bad idea to have VoiceOver announce when a modifier key is pressed as it prevents the use of the command “Copy last phrase to clipboard”. Cheers, Anne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo
Sounds like you have an activity set for Finder. So open the VoiceOver Utility with vo-f8, press command-0 to select activities in the categories table. Now I'm not sure how you remove these so rather than guessing will stop there and let others chime in. On 22/07/2014 22:07, Eleanor Burke wrote: Thanks Chris. Now why is VO saying when I am at the Finder, Finder Activity? On 22 Jul 2014, at 20:46, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Well to change typing echo from the defaults to words do the following: 1. Press vo-v to open the OS X equivalent of the Adjust JAWS Options dialogue box. 2. Right arrow until you hear typing echo. Press up or down until it says words. 3. Press return and it will say stop adjusting typing echo and take you out of the window. On 22/07/2014 20:30, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote: Hi, I want to know what should I change to get key and word echo. Thanks. Eleanor --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo
Not Isaac but thanks for that Anne as it means I need to uncheck that key then. Eleanor - Original Message - From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 7:57 AM Subject: Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo Hello Isaac, It’s a very bad idea to have VoiceOver announce when a modifier key is pressed as it prevents the use of the command “Copy last phrase to clipboard”. Cheers, Anne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo
OK Chris, I will await other responses. I obviously just accidentally changed something. - Original Message - From: Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 8:34 AM Subject: Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo Sounds like you have an activity set for Finder. So open the VoiceOver Utility with vo-f8, press command-0 to select activities in the categories table. Now I'm not sure how you remove these so rather than guessing will stop there and let others chime in. On 22/07/2014 22:07, Eleanor Burke wrote: Thanks Chris. Now why is VO saying when I am at the Finder, Finder Activity? On 22 Jul 2014, at 20:46, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Well to change typing echo from the defaults to words do the following: 1. Press vo-v to open the OS X equivalent of the Adjust JAWS Options dialogue box. 2. Right arrow until you hear typing echo. Press up or down until it says words. 3. Press return and it will say stop adjusting typing echo and take you out of the window. On 22/07/2014 20:30, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote: Hi, I want to know what should I change to get key and word echo. Thanks. Eleanor --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something
RE: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo
Removing activities is easy. Go to voiceover utility VO F8 Interact with the Utility Table. Cursor down to Activities Tab out of the Utility Table into the Activity dialogue. Interact with the Activity Table shown there. Cursor through the table until you have selected the activity you want to remove. Tab out of that table and you will land probably on the add button. VO Right arrow once and you will land on the remove button. Hit that button and then close VO Utility. Job done. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Martha Burke Sent: 23 July 2014 09:37 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo OK Chris, I will await other responses. I obviously just accidentally changed something. - Original Message - From: Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 8:34 AM Subject: Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo Sounds like you have an activity set for Finder. So open the VoiceOver Utility with vo-f8, press command-0 to select activities in the categories table. Now I'm not sure how you remove these so rather than guessing will stop there and let others chime in. On 22/07/2014 22:07, Eleanor Burke wrote: Thanks Chris. Now why is VO saying when I am at the Finder, Finder Activity? On 22 Jul 2014, at 20:46, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Well to change typing echo from the defaults to words do the following: 1. Press vo-v to open the OS X equivalent of the Adjust JAWS Options dialogue box. 2. Right arrow until you hear typing echo. Press up or down until it says words. 3. Press return and it will say stop adjusting typing echo and take you out of the window. On 22/07/2014 20:30, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote: Hi, I want to know what should I change to get key and word echo. Thanks. Eleanor --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access
Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo
Well I am not so sure this is what I want though I am not doubting your instruction. I did not set up an activity, just that vo is saying finder activity and when I open Mail vo says mail activity. This is why I thought it might be a verbosity issue. Eleanor On 23 Jul 2014, at 10:55, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: Removing activities is easy. Go to voiceover utility VO F8 Interact with the Utility Table. Cursor down to Activities Tab out of the Utility Table into the Activity dialogue. Interact with the Activity Table shown there. Cursor through the table until you have selected the activity you want to remove. Tab out of that table and you will land probably on the add button. VO Right arrow once and you will land on the remove button. Hit that button and then close VO Utility. Job done. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Martha Burke Sent: 23 July 2014 09:37 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo OK Chris, I will await other responses. I obviously just accidentally changed something. - Original Message - From: Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 8:34 AM Subject: Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo Sounds like you have an activity set for Finder. So open the VoiceOver Utility with vo-f8, press command-0 to select activities in the categories table. Now I'm not sure how you remove these so rather than guessing will stop there and let others chime in. On 22/07/2014 22:07, Eleanor Burke wrote: Thanks Chris. Now why is VO saying when I am at the Finder, Finder Activity? On 22 Jul 2014, at 20:46, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Well to change typing echo from the defaults to words do the following: 1. Press vo-v to open the OS X equivalent of the Adjust JAWS Options dialogue box. 2. Right arrow until you hear typing echo. Press up or down until it says words. 3. Press return and it will say stop adjusting typing echo and take you out of the window. On 22/07/2014 20:30, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote: Hi, I want to know what should I change to get key and word echo. Thanks. Eleanor --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac
Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo
Well to change typing echo from the defaults to words do the following: 1. Press vo-v to open the OS X equivalent of the Adjust JAWS Options dialogue box. 2. Right arrow until you hear typing echo. Press up or down until it says words. 3. Press return and it will say stop adjusting typing echo and take you out of the window. On 22/07/2014 20:30, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote: Hi, I want to know what should I change to get key and word echo. Thanks. Eleanor --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo
The end of the message is cut off. I did the below but this did not work for me. I want to be able to type in an edit field and hear the key press as I press it. Carrying out the below instructions gave me something like different sounds as the word was being built up, it sort of reminded me of the way children are taught how to read today. I obviously did something to stop this key echo which is very strange. Why would I check a modifier box in any case to produce key echo? - Original Message - From: isaac.heb...@gmail.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 9:23 PM Subject: Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo Just go to voiceover utility. Then press command 2 to go to verbosity. Next vo right arrow to the announcement tab and press vo space bar on it. Next tab to the announce when modifier key is pressed check box and then press vo space bar to check it.and On Jul 22, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I want to know what should I change to get key and word echo. Thanks. Eleanor --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo
Thanks Chris, working well now. Cannot imagine how I did that though I was looking around in that area before. On 22 Jul 2014, at 20:46, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Well to change typing echo from the defaults to words do the following: 1. Press vo-v to open the OS X equivalent of the Adjust JAWS Options dialogue box. 2. Right arrow until you hear typing echo. Press up or down until it says words. 3. Press return and it will say stop adjusting typing echo and take you out of the window. On 22/07/2014 20:30, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote: Hi, I want to know what should I change to get key and word echo. Thanks. Eleanor --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo
Thanks Chris. Now why is VO saying when I am at the Finder, Finder Activity? On 22 Jul 2014, at 20:46, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Well to change typing echo from the defaults to words do the following: 1. Press vo-v to open the OS X equivalent of the Adjust JAWS Options dialogue box. 2. Right arrow until you hear typing echo. Press up or down until it says words. 3. Press return and it will say stop adjusting typing echo and take you out of the window. On 22/07/2014 20:30, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote: Hi, I want to know what should I change to get key and word echo. Thanks. Eleanor --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard
I'll have to take a look at that when I'm at home where I can download it. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 16, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Fleksy Vo On Jun 16, 2014, at 10:56, Jessica Benzing jb...@me.com wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by flexy for VoiceOver. I'm glad you're sticking with it and getting faster. That's awesome. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 16, 2014, at 7:16 AM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Well, I've gotten faster with two fingers, and even with Fleksy I use two fingers, rich makes things faster. I'm using Fleksy for VoiceOver right now, because I really don't like the regular Fleksy app, because of the smaller typing space and the inability to automatically copy and clear when switching away from the app. I just hope they have Fleksy for VoiceOver as a keyboard of its own. On May 27, 2014, at 8:59, Jessica Benzing jb...@me.com wrote: It won't be faster for quite a while. You have to develop muscle memory. After time, your fingers automatically go to the places they need to go. It's sort of like touch typing. Typing with two fingers one on either side of the keyboard is faster because you only have half the space for each finger. Parham, thank you for that fantastic description of how to type with your thumbs. I haven't had my coffee yet and I was definitely going to struggle with that one. Sent from my iPhone On May 27, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Hmm I'm trying that now. And my typing isn't any faster. I'll just use my pointer finger. On May 27, 2014, at 3:18, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, There are two ways of doing this. One is to keep your phone in the portrate position, and the other is to turn it around to the landscape position. In both cases, you lean the phone against your other fingers behind it, and cradle the phone in both hands. Since the keyboard is now at the bottom near the palm of your hands, you bend your thumbs inward, slightly tilt them toward one another, and touch the screen with the tips. Note that it doesn't have to be the very tip; it can be a little to the left or right, depending on how long your fingers are. Hope this helps. On 5/27/2014 8:32 AM, Devin Prater wrote: How en le mond … Ohh I forgot that Alex can slightly do I French accent… But how in the world do you type with your thumbs? Do you just move your thumbs over the keyboard, or set boundaries for the left and right side of the keyboard? If this will help accuracy, then I’m all for it. On May 26, 2014, at 10:26 PM, Jessica Benzing jb...@me.com wrote: I cradle my phone in both my hands and use my thumbs for typing. I still keep my phone in the portrait position and I type pretty fast now. I admit now that I started using dictation my speed has not improved as quickly as it used to. I think it's better if you can try not to dictate as much as possible. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access
Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard
Well, I've gotten faster with two fingers, and even with Fleksy I use two fingers, rich makes things faster. I'm using Fleksy for VoiceOver right now, because I really don't like the regular Fleksy app, because of the smaller typing space and the inability to automatically copy and clear when switching away from the app. I just hope they have Fleksy for VoiceOver as a keyboard of its own. On May 27, 2014, at 8:59, Jessica Benzing jb...@me.com wrote: It won't be faster for quite a while. You have to develop muscle memory. After time, your fingers automatically go to the places they need to go. It's sort of like touch typing. Typing with two fingers one on either side of the keyboard is faster because you only have half the space for each finger. Parham, thank you for that fantastic description of how to type with your thumbs. I haven't had my coffee yet and I was definitely going to struggle with that one. Sent from my iPhone On May 27, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Hmm I'm trying that now. And my typing isn't any faster. I'll just use my pointer finger. On May 27, 2014, at 3:18, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, There are two ways of doing this. One is to keep your phone in the portrate position, and the other is to turn it around to the landscape position. In both cases, you lean the phone against your other fingers behind it, and cradle the phone in both hands. Since the keyboard is now at the bottom near the palm of your hands, you bend your thumbs inward, slightly tilt them toward one another, and touch the screen with the tips. Note that it doesn't have to be the very tip; it can be a little to the left or right, depending on how long your fingers are. Hope this helps. On 5/27/2014 8:32 AM, Devin Prater wrote: How en le mond … Ohh I forgot that Alex can slightly do I French accent… But how in the world do you type with your thumbs? Do you just move your thumbs over the keyboard, or set boundaries for the left and right side of the keyboard? If this will help accuracy, then I’m all for it. On May 26, 2014, at 10:26 PM, Jessica Benzing jb...@me.com wrote: I cradle my phone in both my hands and use my thumbs for typing. I still keep my phone in the portrait position and I type pretty fast now. I admit now that I started using dictation my speed has not improved as quickly as it used to. I think it's better if you can try not to dictate as much as possible. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com
Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard
I'm not sure what you mean by flexy for VoiceOver. I'm glad you're sticking with it and getting faster. That's awesome. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 16, 2014, at 7:16 AM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Well, I've gotten faster with two fingers, and even with Fleksy I use two fingers, rich makes things faster. I'm using Fleksy for VoiceOver right now, because I really don't like the regular Fleksy app, because of the smaller typing space and the inability to automatically copy and clear when switching away from the app. I just hope they have Fleksy for VoiceOver as a keyboard of its own. On May 27, 2014, at 8:59, Jessica Benzing jb...@me.com wrote: It won't be faster for quite a while. You have to develop muscle memory. After time, your fingers automatically go to the places they need to go. It's sort of like touch typing. Typing with two fingers one on either side of the keyboard is faster because you only have half the space for each finger. Parham, thank you for that fantastic description of how to type with your thumbs. I haven't had my coffee yet and I was definitely going to struggle with that one. Sent from my iPhone On May 27, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Hmm I'm trying that now. And my typing isn't any faster. I'll just use my pointer finger. On May 27, 2014, at 3:18, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, There are two ways of doing this. One is to keep your phone in the portrate position, and the other is to turn it around to the landscape position. In both cases, you lean the phone against your other fingers behind it, and cradle the phone in both hands. Since the keyboard is now at the bottom near the palm of your hands, you bend your thumbs inward, slightly tilt them toward one another, and touch the screen with the tips. Note that it doesn't have to be the very tip; it can be a little to the left or right, depending on how long your fingers are. Hope this helps. On 5/27/2014 8:32 AM, Devin Prater wrote: How en le mond … Ohh I forgot that Alex can slightly do I French accent… But how in the world do you type with your thumbs? Do you just move your thumbs over the keyboard, or set boundaries for the left and right side of the keyboard? If this will help accuracy, then I’m all for it. On May 26, 2014, at 10:26 PM, Jessica Benzing jb...@me.com wrote: I cradle my phone in both my hands and use my thumbs for typing. I still keep my phone in the portrait position and I type pretty fast now. I admit now that I started using dictation my speed has not improved as quickly as it used to. I think it's better if you can try not to dictate as much as possible. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive
Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard
Fleksy Vo On Jun 16, 2014, at 10:56, Jessica Benzing jb...@me.com wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by flexy for VoiceOver. I'm glad you're sticking with it and getting faster. That's awesome. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 16, 2014, at 7:16 AM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Well, I've gotten faster with two fingers, and even with Fleksy I use two fingers, rich makes things faster. I'm using Fleksy for VoiceOver right now, because I really don't like the regular Fleksy app, because of the smaller typing space and the inability to automatically copy and clear when switching away from the app. I just hope they have Fleksy for VoiceOver as a keyboard of its own. On May 27, 2014, at 8:59, Jessica Benzing jb...@me.com wrote: It won't be faster for quite a while. You have to develop muscle memory. After time, your fingers automatically go to the places they need to go. It's sort of like touch typing. Typing with two fingers one on either side of the keyboard is faster because you only have half the space for each finger. Parham, thank you for that fantastic description of how to type with your thumbs. I haven't had my coffee yet and I was definitely going to struggle with that one. Sent from my iPhone On May 27, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Hmm I'm trying that now. And my typing isn't any faster. I'll just use my pointer finger. On May 27, 2014, at 3:18, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, There are two ways of doing this. One is to keep your phone in the portrate position, and the other is to turn it around to the landscape position. In both cases, you lean the phone against your other fingers behind it, and cradle the phone in both hands. Since the keyboard is now at the bottom near the palm of your hands, you bend your thumbs inward, slightly tilt them toward one another, and touch the screen with the tips. Note that it doesn't have to be the very tip; it can be a little to the left or right, depending on how long your fingers are. Hope this helps. On 5/27/2014 8:32 AM, Devin Prater wrote: How en le mond … Ohh I forgot that Alex can slightly do I French accent… But how in the world do you type with your thumbs? Do you just move your thumbs over the keyboard, or set boundaries for the left and right side of the keyboard? If this will help accuracy, then I’m all for it. On May 26, 2014, at 10:26 PM, Jessica Benzing jb...@me.com wrote: I cradle my phone in both my hands and use my thumbs for typing. I still keep my phone in the portrait position and I type pretty fast now. I admit now that I started using dictation my speed has not improved as quickly as it used to. I think it's better if you can try not to dictate as much as possible. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages
Re: Fusion; OS X Grabbing Keyboard Control
Hi David No, that wasn’t my problem and it took me a long time to nail this issue. However, here we go. My start disk had partition errors. I realised that when I used some system tools to check the drive. So, I did a total backup. Then I switched to that backup as my start disk, formatted my internal drive again with a new partition, and then just restored from the working backup. Now, Fusion and a lot of other apps work much better than before. Just shows what can happen with hidden errors like that. Kindest regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Proudly Providing Braille And Alternative Format Transcription Services, Plus I.T Help Support To The Staff And Students Of the Visually Impaired Department at: Sunnyside Academy Manor Farm Way Colby Newham Middlesbrough Cleveland TS8 0RJ United Kingdom == Telephone: United Kingdom: Free Phone: 0800 8620538 United Kingdom Geographic: 01133 280547 Mobile: +44 7907 823971 Europe and other non-specified: +44 1642 688095 United States Of America And Canada: +1 646 9151493 Or: +1 209 436 9443 Australasia: +61 38 8205930 Or: +61 39 0284505 Fax: +44 1642 365123 Follow Us On Twitter: http://twitter.com/maciosaccess Skype: skype:mac-access-dot-net?call -- On 30 May 2014, at 14:26, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: Are you using it in full screen mode? I find that it is only in full screen mode that Fusion works satisfactorily for me. The toggle key for full screen in fusion is Control command and enter. Basically the steps I take are 1. command F5 to turn voiceover off. 2 Control command and enter to enter full screen mode and the windows Screenreader should now grab focus. 3. To leave Windows and return to the Mac control command enter to put Fusion into a window then command F5 to turn VO on and finally command tab to another window or desktop to confirm that Vo and Mac have focus. David Griffith Command -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Smith Sent: 30 May 2014 13:20 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Fusion; OS X Grabbing Keyboard Control Hi all I'm experiencing an irritating issue with Fusion. It is continually grabbing keyboard control and I can't get back to my VM. Anybody tell me how to get focus back to the VM via keyboard? I don't want to discuss the VM here because it's off topic. But this seems to be an issue with Fusion itself, not the VM. Kindest regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Proudly Providing Braille And Alternative Format Transcription Services, Plus I.T Help Support To The Staff And Students Of the Visually Impaired Department at: Sunnyside Academy Manorfarm Way Colby Newham Middlesbrough Cleveland == Telephone: United Kingdom: Free Phone: 0800 8620538 United Kingdom Geographic: 01133 280547 Mobile: +44 7907 823971 Europe and other non-specified: +44 1642 688095 United States Of America And Canada: +1 646 9151493 Or: +1 209 436 9443 Australasia: +61 38 8205930 Or: +61 39 0284505 Fax: +44 1642 365123 Follow Us On Twitter: http://twitter.com/maciosaccess Skype: skype:mac-access-dot-net?call -- --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal
Re: Fusion; OS X Grabbing Keyboard Control
Gordon, Which system tools did you use? And, the bigger question, are they accessable? thanks, Caitlyn On Jun 7, 2014, at 5:36 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi David No, that wasn’t my problem and it took me a long time to nail this issue. However, here we go. My start disk had partition errors. I realised that when I used some system tools to check the drive. So, I did a total backup. Then I switched to that backup as my start disk, formatted my internal drive again with a new partition, and then just restored from the working backup. Now, Fusion and a lot of other apps work much better than before. Just shows what can happen with hidden errors like that. Kindest regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Proudly Providing Braille And Alternative Format Transcription Services, Plus I.T Help Support To The Staff And Students Of the Visually Impaired Department at: Sunnyside Academy Manor Farm Way Colby Newham Middlesbrough Cleveland TS8 0RJ United Kingdom == Telephone: United Kingdom: Free Phone: 0800 8620538 United Kingdom Geographic: 01133 280547 Mobile: +44 7907 823971 Europe and other non-specified: +44 1642 688095 United States Of America And Canada: +1 646 9151493 Or: +1 209 436 9443 Australasia: +61 38 8205930 Or: +61 39 0284505 Fax: +44 1642 365123 Follow Us On Twitter: http://twitter.com/maciosaccess Skype: skype:mac-access-dot-net?call -- On 30 May 2014, at 14:26, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: Are you using it in full screen mode? I find that it is only in full screen mode that Fusion works satisfactorily for me. The toggle key for full screen in fusion is Control command and enter. Basically the steps I take are 1. command F5 to turn voiceover off. 2 Control command and enter to enter full screen mode and the windows Screenreader should now grab focus. 3. To leave Windows and return to the Mac control command enter to put Fusion into a window then command F5 to turn VO on and finally command tab to another window or desktop to confirm that Vo and Mac have focus. David Griffith Command -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Smith Sent: 30 May 2014 13:20 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Fusion; OS X Grabbing Keyboard Control Hi all I'm experiencing an irritating issue with Fusion. It is continually grabbing keyboard control and I can't get back to my VM. Anybody tell me how to get focus back to the VM via keyboard? I don't want to discuss the VM here because it's off topic. But this seems to be an issue with Fusion itself, not the VM. Kindest regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Proudly Providing Braille And Alternative Format Transcription Services, Plus I.T Help Support To The Staff And Students Of the Visually Impaired Department at: Sunnyside Academy Manorfarm Way Colby Newham Middlesbrough Cleveland == Telephone: United Kingdom: Free Phone: 0800 8620538 United Kingdom Geographic: 01133 280547 Mobile: +44 7907 823971 Europe and other non-specified: +44 1642 688095 United States Of America And Canada: +1 646 9151493 Or: +1 209 436 9443 Australasia: +61 38 8205930 Or: +61 39 0284505 Fax: +44 1642 365123 Follow Us On Twitter: http://twitter.com/maciosaccess Skype: skype:mac-access-dot-net?call -- --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated
Fusion; OS X Grabbing Keyboard Control
Hi all I’m experiencing an irritating issue with Fusion. It is continually grabbing keyboard control and I can’t get back to my VM. Anybody tell me how to get focus back to the VM via keyboard? I don’t want to discuss the VM here because it’s off topic. But this seems to be an issue with Fusion itself, not the VM. Kindest regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Proudly Providing Braille And Alternative Format Transcription Services, Plus I.T Help Support To The Staff And Students Of the Visually Impaired Department at: Sunnyside Academy Manorfarm Way Colby Newham Middlesbrough Cleveland == Telephone: United Kingdom: Free Phone: 0800 8620538 United Kingdom Geographic: 01133 280547 Mobile: +44 7907 823971 Europe and other non-specified: +44 1642 688095 United States Of America And Canada: +1 646 9151493 Or: +1 209 436 9443 Australasia: +61 38 8205930 Or: +61 39 0284505 Fax: +44 1642 365123 Follow Us On Twitter: http://twitter.com/maciosaccess Skype: skype:mac-access-dot-net?call -- --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: Fusion; OS X Grabbing Keyboard Control
Are you using it in full screen mode? I find that it is only in full screen mode that Fusion works satisfactorily for me. The toggle key for full screen in fusion is Control command and enter. Basically the steps I take are 1. command F5 to turn voiceover off. 2 Control command and enter to enter full screen mode and the windows Screenreader should now grab focus. 3. To leave Windows and return to the Mac control command enter to put Fusion into a window then command F5 to turn VO on and finally command tab to another window or desktop to confirm that Vo and Mac have focus. David Griffith Command -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Smith Sent: 30 May 2014 13:20 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Fusion; OS X Grabbing Keyboard Control Hi all I'm experiencing an irritating issue with Fusion. It is continually grabbing keyboard control and I can't get back to my VM. Anybody tell me how to get focus back to the VM via keyboard? I don't want to discuss the VM here because it's off topic. But this seems to be an issue with Fusion itself, not the VM. Kindest regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Proudly Providing Braille And Alternative Format Transcription Services, Plus I.T Help Support To The Staff And Students Of the Visually Impaired Department at: Sunnyside Academy Manorfarm Way Colby Newham Middlesbrough Cleveland == Telephone: United Kingdom: Free Phone: 0800 8620538 United Kingdom Geographic: 01133 280547 Mobile: +44 7907 823971 Europe and other non-specified: +44 1642 688095 United States Of America And Canada: +1 646 9151493 Or: +1 209 436 9443 Australasia: +61 38 8205930 Or: +61 39 0284505 Fax: +44 1642 365123 Follow Us On Twitter: http://twitter.com/maciosaccess Skype: skype:mac-access-dot-net?call -- --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Fusion; OS X Grabbing Keyboard Control
I always just press control+command+F to switch screen modes. then I hit the tab key a few times if necessary and that gets focus back to the VM. Actually, I think that control+command is actually a command to grab/rrelease focus, and that’s why it works - don’t really know - it just works. On May 30, 2014, at 8:19 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi all I’m experiencing an irritating issue with Fusion. It is continually grabbing keyboard control and I can’t get back to my VM. Anybody tell me how to get focus back to the VM via keyboard? I don’t want to discuss the VM here because it’s off topic. But this seems to be an issue with Fusion itself, not the VM. Kindest regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Proudly Providing Braille And Alternative Format Transcription Services, Plus I.T Help Support To The Staff And Students Of the Visually Impaired Department at: Sunnyside Academy Manorfarm Way Colby Newham Middlesbrough Cleveland == Telephone: United Kingdom: Free Phone: 0800 8620538 United Kingdom Geographic: 01133 280547 Mobile: +44 7907 823971 Europe and other non-specified: +44 1642 688095 United States Of America And Canada: +1 646 9151493 Or: +1 209 436 9443 Australasia: +61 38 8205930 Or: +61 39 0284505 Fax: +44 1642 365123 Follow Us On Twitter: http://twitter.com/maciosaccess Skype: skype:mac-access-dot-net?call -- --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Fusion; OS X Grabbing Keyboard Control
Make certain quick nav is off when you switch to the fusion window. I prefer to leave VO on while using Fusion. I also do not find it necessary to use full screen mode. I enjoy having use of Mac OS and Windows simultaneously without disabling either screen reader. Sent from mobile device On May 30, 2014, at 8:19 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi all I’m experiencing an irritating issue with Fusion. It is continually grabbing keyboard control and I can’t get back to my VM. Anybody tell me how to get focus back to the VM via keyboard? I don’t want to discuss the VM here because it’s off topic. But this seems to be an issue with Fusion itself, not the VM. Kindest regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Proudly Providing Braille And Alternative Format Transcription Services, Plus I.T Help Support To The Staff And Students Of the Visually Impaired Department at: Sunnyside Academy Manorfarm Way Colby Newham Middlesbrough Cleveland == Telephone: United Kingdom: Free Phone: 0800 8620538 United Kingdom Geographic: 01133 280547 Mobile: +44 7907 823971 Europe and other non-specified: +44 1642 688095 United States Of America And Canada: +1 646 9151493 Or: +1 209 436 9443 Australasia: +61 38 8205930 Or: +61 39 0284505 Fax: +44 1642 365123 Follow Us On Twitter: http://twitter.com/maciosaccess Skype: skype:mac-access-dot-net?call -- --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Fusion; OS X Grabbing Keyboard Control
Hi, Is fusion in full screen mode? I find that if in full screen mode the vm will have full control of the keyboard. HTH. Matthew On May 30, 2014, at 8:19 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi all I’m experiencing an irritating issue with Fusion. It is continually grabbing keyboard control and I can’t get back to my VM. Anybody tell me how to get focus back to the VM via keyboard? I don’t want to discuss the VM here because it’s off topic. But this seems to be an issue with Fusion itself, not the VM. Kindest regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Proudly Providing Braille And Alternative Format Transcription Services, Plus I.T Help Support To The Staff And Students Of the Visually Impaired Department at: Sunnyside Academy Manorfarm Way Colby Newham Middlesbrough Cleveland == Telephone: United Kingdom: Free Phone: 0800 8620538 United Kingdom Geographic: 01133 280547 Mobile: +44 7907 823971 Europe and other non-specified: +44 1642 688095 United States Of America And Canada: +1 646 9151493 Or: +1 209 436 9443 Australasia: +61 38 8205930 Or: +61 39 0284505 Fax: +44 1642 365123 Follow Us On Twitter: http://twitter.com/maciosaccess Skype: skype:mac-access-dot-net?call -- --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Fusion; OS X Grabbing Keyboard Control
Hello. go to the window menu and chose yoru vm. After that hit option tab and you shoudl be back in your vm. Take care. On May 30, 2014, at 5:19 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi all I’m experiencing an irritating issue with Fusion. It is continually grabbing keyboard control and I can’t get back to my VM. Anybody tell me how to get focus back to the VM via keyboard? I don’t want to discuss the VM here because it’s off topic. But this seems to be an issue with Fusion itself, not the VM. Kindest regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Proudly Providing Braille And Alternative Format Transcription Services, Plus I.T Help Support To The Staff And Students Of the Visually Impaired Department at: Sunnyside Academy Manorfarm Way Colby Newham Middlesbrough Cleveland == Telephone: United Kingdom: Free Phone: 0800 8620538 United Kingdom Geographic: 01133 280547 Mobile: +44 7907 823971 Europe and other non-specified: +44 1642 688095 United States Of America And Canada: +1 646 9151493 Or: +1 209 436 9443 Australasia: +61 38 8205930 Or: +61 39 0284505 Fax: +44 1642 365123 Follow Us On Twitter: http://twitter.com/maciosaccess Skype: skype:mac-access-dot-net?call -- --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard
Hi, There are two ways of doing this. One is to keep your phone in the portrate position, and the other is to turn it around to the landscape position. In both cases, you lean the phone against your other fingers behind it, and cradle the phone in both hands. Since the keyboard is now at the bottom near the palm of your hands, you bend your thumbs inward, slightly tilt them toward one another, and touch the screen with the tips. Note that it doesn't have to be the very tip; it can be a little to the left or right, depending on how long your fingers are. Hope this helps. On 5/27/2014 8:32 AM, Devin Prater wrote: How en le mond … Ohh I forgot that Alex can slightly do I French accent… But how in the world do you type with your thumbs? Do you just move your thumbs over the keyboard, or set boundaries for the left and right side of the keyboard? If this will help accuracy, then I’m all for it. On May 26, 2014, at 10:26 PM, Jessica Benzing jb...@me.com wrote: I cradle my phone in both my hands and use my thumbs for typing. I still keep my phone in the portrait position and I type pretty fast now. I admit now that I started using dictation my speed has not improved as quickly as it used to. I think it's better if you can try not to dictate as much as possible. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard
Hmm I'm trying that now. And my typing isn't any faster. I'll just use my pointer finger. On May 27, 2014, at 3:18, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, There are two ways of doing this. One is to keep your phone in the portrate position, and the other is to turn it around to the landscape position. In both cases, you lean the phone against your other fingers behind it, and cradle the phone in both hands. Since the keyboard is now at the bottom near the palm of your hands, you bend your thumbs inward, slightly tilt them toward one another, and touch the screen with the tips. Note that it doesn't have to be the very tip; it can be a little to the left or right, depending on how long your fingers are. Hope this helps. On 5/27/2014 8:32 AM, Devin Prater wrote: How en le mond … Ohh I forgot that Alex can slightly do I French accent… But how in the world do you type with your thumbs? Do you just move your thumbs over the keyboard, or set boundaries for the left and right side of the keyboard? If this will help accuracy, then I’m all for it. On May 26, 2014, at 10:26 PM, Jessica Benzing jb...@me.com wrote: I cradle my phone in both my hands and use my thumbs for typing. I still keep my phone in the portrait position and I type pretty fast now. I admit now that I started using dictation my speed has not improved as quickly as it used to. I think it's better if you can try not to dictate as much as possible. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml
Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard
It won't be faster for quite a while. You have to develop muscle memory. After time, your fingers automatically go to the places they need to go. It's sort of like touch typing. Typing with two fingers one on either side of the keyboard is faster because you only have half the space for each finger. Parham, thank you for that fantastic description of how to type with your thumbs. I haven't had my coffee yet and I was definitely going to struggle with that one. Sent from my iPhone On May 27, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Hmm I'm trying that now. And my typing isn't any faster. I'll just use my pointer finger. On May 27, 2014, at 3:18, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, There are two ways of doing this. One is to keep your phone in the portrate position, and the other is to turn it around to the landscape position. In both cases, you lean the phone against your other fingers behind it, and cradle the phone in both hands. Since the keyboard is now at the bottom near the palm of your hands, you bend your thumbs inward, slightly tilt them toward one another, and touch the screen with the tips. Note that it doesn't have to be the very tip; it can be a little to the left or right, depending on how long your fingers are. Hope this helps. On 5/27/2014 8:32 AM, Devin Prater wrote: How en le mond … Ohh I forgot that Alex can slightly do I French accent… But how in the world do you type with your thumbs? Do you just move your thumbs over the keyboard, or set boundaries for the left and right side of the keyboard? If this will help accuracy, then I’m all for it. On May 26, 2014, at 10:26 PM, Jessica Benzing jb...@me.com wrote: I cradle my phone in both my hands and use my thumbs for typing. I still keep my phone in the portrait position and I type pretty fast now. I admit now that I started using dictation my speed has not improved as quickly as it used to. I think it's better if you can try not to dictate as much as possible. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http
Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard
Sure, Jessica. And Devin, as Jessica suggests, this is not a Magically type ten times faster, never thought of before! solution; just like any other method that doesn't have software involved, it takes time for your muscle memory to develop. On 5/27/2014 6:29 PM, Jessica Benzing wrote: It won't be faster for quite a while. You have to develop muscle memory. After time, your fingers automatically go to the places they need to go. It's sort of like touch typing. Typing with two fingers one on either side of the keyboard is faster because you only have half the space for each finger. Parham, thank you for that fantastic description of how to type with your thumbs. I haven't had my coffee yet and I was definitely going to struggle with that one. Sent from my iPhone On May 27, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Hmm I'm trying that now. And my typing isn't any faster. I'll just use my pointer finger. On May 27, 2014, at 3:18, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, There are two ways of doing this. One is to keep your phone in the portrate position, and the other is to turn it around to the landscape position. In both cases, you lean the phone against your other fingers behind it, and cradle the phone in both hands. Since the keyboard is now at the bottom near the palm of your hands, you bend your thumbs inward, slightly tilt them toward one another, and touch the screen with the tips. Note that it doesn't have to be the very tip; it can be a little to the left or right, depending on how long your fingers are. Hope this helps. On 5/27/2014 8:32 AM, Devin Prater wrote: How en le mond … Ohh I forgot that Alex can slightly do I French accent… But how in the world do you type with your thumbs? Do you just move your thumbs over the keyboard, or set boundaries for the left and right side of the keyboard? If this will help accuracy, then I’m all for it. On May 26, 2014, at 10:26 PM, Jessica Benzing jb...@me.com wrote: I cradle my phone in both my hands and use my thumbs for typing. I still keep my phone in the portrait position and I type pretty fast now. I admit now that I started using dictation my speed has not improved as quickly as it used to. I think it's better if you can try not to dictate as much as possible. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy
Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard
I'll admit that I'm lazy. I use the BT keyboard most of the time. Sent from my iPhone On May 27, 2014, at 3:18 AM, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, There are two ways of doing this. One is to keep your phone in the portrate position, and the other is to turn it around to the landscape position. In both cases, you lean the phone against your other fingers behind it, and cradle the phone in both hands. Since the keyboard is now at the bottom near the palm of your hands, you bend your thumbs inward, slightly tilt them toward one another, and touch the screen with the tips. Note that it doesn't have to be the very tip; it can be a little to the left or right, depending on how long your fingers are. Hope this helps. On 5/27/2014 8:32 AM, Devin Prater wrote: How en le mond … Ohh I forgot that Alex can slightly do I French accent… But how in the world do you type with your thumbs? Do you just move your thumbs over the keyboard, or set boundaries for the left and right side of the keyboard? If this will help accuracy, then I’m all for it. On May 26, 2014, at 10:26 PM, Jessica Benzing jb...@me.com wrote: I cradle my phone in both my hands and use my thumbs for typing. I still keep my phone in the portrait position and I type pretty fast now. I admit now that I started using dictation my speed has not improved as quickly as it used to. I think it's better if you can try not to dictate as much as possible. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml
Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard
I tried it this morning, and I found it to be the fastest way I have typed so far! I am really excited about how fast I will get after I've done it for awhile! Desi On May 27, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote: Sure, Jessica. And Devin, as Jessica suggests, this is not a Magically type ten times faster, never thought of before! solution; just like any other method that doesn't have software involved, it takes time for your muscle memory to develop. On 5/27/2014 6:29 PM, Jessica Benzing wrote: It won't be faster for quite a while. You have to develop muscle memory. After time, your fingers automatically go to the places they need to go. It's sort of like touch typing. Typing with two fingers one on either side of the keyboard is faster because you only have half the space for each finger. Parham, thank you for that fantastic description of how to type with your thumbs. I haven't had my coffee yet and I was definitely going to struggle with that one. Sent from my iPhone On May 27, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Hmm I'm trying that now. And my typing isn't any faster. I'll just use my pointer finger. On May 27, 2014, at 3:18, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, There are two ways of doing this. One is to keep your phone in the portrate position, and the other is to turn it around to the landscape position. In both cases, you lean the phone against your other fingers behind it, and cradle the phone in both hands. Since the keyboard is now at the bottom near the palm of your hands, you bend your thumbs inward, slightly tilt them toward one another, and touch the screen with the tips. Note that it doesn't have to be the very tip; it can be a little to the left or right, depending on how long your fingers are. Hope this helps. On 5/27/2014 8:32 AM, Devin Prater wrote: How en le mond … Ohh I forgot that Alex can slightly do I French accent… But how in the world do you type with your thumbs? Do you just move your thumbs over the keyboard, or set boundaries for the left and right side of the keyboard? If this will help accuracy, then I’m all for it. On May 26, 2014, at 10:26 PM, Jessica Benzing jb...@me.com wrote: I cradle my phone in both my hands and use my thumbs for typing. I still keep my phone in the portrait position and I type pretty fast now. I admit now that I started using dictation my speed has not improved as quickly as it used to. I think it's better if you can try not to dictate as much as possible. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac
Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard
I can thumb my phone, but I'd rather not. It's an IPhone, not a crackberry. LOL! Chris. - Original Message - From: Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 1:10 AM Subject: Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard Hi Glenn et al, I meant I'm trying to get to the point where I just tap the letter I want, not that I can currently achieve such a thing. The sighted just use thumbs of their both hands for typing, and I'm trying to get comfortable with that too. The point is that when you're typing with two fingers, your speed, once you get hang of it, is pretty much doubled. I can attest to that since my speed on a normal keyboard far bypasses my colleague programmers since I'm using all of my ten fingers, as opposed to four or six that sighted people usually do. HTH. On 5/26/2014 12:09 AM, Glenn wrote: Parham, Perhaps the difficulty you are having with touch-typing is that you will have best results if you slide to the character you want, and not touch somewhere. Lifting off will enter the character. HTH. Glenn - Original Message - From: Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:23 PM Subject: Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard Hi Desi, As I'm living in Iran and Fleksy or Mbraille do not support what is known as Pinglish (writing Farsi using English characters) I do have to type using the on-screen keyboard. It does feel like I'm too slow, however, even though I'm very fast when using a normal keyboard and even when using phones with software keyboards. I'm hoping to get to the point of single-tapping the letter I want to type in the touch typing mode. However, I haven't quite gotten there yet, although I practice as much as possible. HTH. On 5/25/2014 11:29 PM, Desi Noller wrote: Hi Everyone, I was recently having a discussion with a friend about how to type on the on-screen keyboard of the iPhone. Personally, I don't particularly like to use a special program for this like, for instance, mBraill or Fleksy. I just want to use the regular keyboard. Dictation can be useful, but of course, sometimes, it's just nice to be able to type something relatively privately. I have built up some speed over the past 3 years, but I would like to get faster. I generally hold my phone in my left hand, and use my right index finger to type, anchoring my thumb down where the connector is at the bottom of the phone. I'm interested to know how others who type using the regular on-screen keyboard, enter your text. I do happen to use Touch Typing mode, but I would also be interested in what typing mode you use. And, does anyone else besides me just use the regular on-screen keyboard for their typing needs? Thanks! Desi --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all
Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard
I truly don't get how one can type with their thumbs. On May 26, 2014, at 0:10, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Glenn et al, I meant I'm trying to get to the point where I just tap the letter I want, not that I can currently achieve such a thing. The sighted just use thumbs of their both hands for typing, and I'm trying to get comfortable with that too. The point is that when you're typing with two fingers, your speed, once you get hang of it, is pretty much doubled. I can attest to that since my speed on a normal keyboard far bypasses my colleague programmers since I'm using all of my ten fingers, as opposed to four or six that sighted people usually do. HTH. On 5/26/2014 12:09 AM, Glenn wrote: Parham, Perhaps the difficulty you are having with touch-typing is that you will have best results if you slide to the character you want, and not touch somewhere. Lifting off will enter the character. HTH. Glenn - Original Message - From: Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:23 PM Subject: Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard Hi Desi, As I'm living in Iran and Fleksy or Mbraille do not support what is known as Pinglish (writing Farsi using English characters) I do have to type using the on-screen keyboard. It does feel like I'm too slow, however, even though I'm very fast when using a normal keyboard and even when using phones with software keyboards. I'm hoping to get to the point of single-tapping the letter I want to type in the touch typing mode. However, I haven't quite gotten there yet, although I practice as much as possible. HTH. On 5/25/2014 11:29 PM, Desi Noller wrote: Hi Everyone, I was recently having a discussion with a friend about how to type on the on-screen keyboard of the iPhone. Personally, I don't particularly like to use a special program for this like, for instance, mBraill or Fleksy. I just want to use the regular keyboard. Dictation can be useful, but of course, sometimes, it's just nice to be able to type something relatively privately. I have built up some speed over the past 3 years, but I would like to get faster. I generally hold my phone in my left hand, and use my right index finger to type, anchoring my thumb down where the connector is at the bottom of the phone. I'm interested to know how others who type using the regular on-screen keyboard, enter your text. I do happen to use Touch Typing mode, but I would also be interested in what typing mode you use. And, does anyone else besides me just use the regular on-screen keyboard for their typing needs? Thanks! Desi --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http
Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard
I cradle my phone in both my hands and use my thumbs for typing. I still keep my phone in the portrait position and I type pretty fast now. I admit now that I started using dictation my speed has not improved as quickly as it used to. I think it's better if you can try not to dictate as much as possible. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard
Hi Everyone, I was recently having a discussion with a friend about how to type on the on-screen keyboard of the iPhone. Personally, I don't particularly like to use a special program for this like, for instance, mBraill or Fleksy. I just want to use the regular keyboard. Dictation can be useful, but of course, sometimes, it's just nice to be able to type something relatively privately. I have built up some speed over the past 3 years, but I would like to get faster. I generally hold my phone in my left hand, and use my right index finger to type, anchoring my thumb down where the connector is at the bottom of the phone. I'm interested to know how others who type using the regular on-screen keyboard, enter your text. I do happen to use Touch Typing mode, but I would also be interested in what typing mode you use. And, does anyone else besides me just use the regular on-screen keyboard for their typing needs? Thanks! Desi --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard
Hi Desi, As I'm living in Iran and Fleksy or Mbraille do not support what is known as Pinglish (writing Farsi using English characters) I do have to type using the on-screen keyboard. It does feel like I'm too slow, however, even though I'm very fast when using a normal keyboard and even when using phones with software keyboards. I'm hoping to get to the point of single-tapping the letter I want to type in the touch typing mode. However, I haven't quite gotten there yet, although I practice as much as possible. HTH. On 5/25/2014 11:29 PM, Desi Noller wrote: Hi Everyone, I was recently having a discussion with a friend about how to type on the on-screen keyboard of the iPhone. Personally, I don't particularly like to use a special program for this like, for instance, mBraill or Fleksy. I just want to use the regular keyboard. Dictation can be useful, but of course, sometimes, it's just nice to be able to type something relatively privately. I have built up some speed over the past 3 years, but I would like to get faster. I generally hold my phone in my left hand, and use my right index finger to type, anchoring my thumb down where the connector is at the bottom of the phone. I'm interested to know how others who type using the regular on-screen keyboard, enter your text. I do happen to use Touch Typing mode, but I would also be interested in what typing mode you use. And, does anyone else besides me just use the regular on-screen keyboard for their typing needs? Thanks! Desi --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard
I use a bluetooth keyboard, how ever I type left handed with my bird finger. I can I think do 2 to 3 wpm using touch typing. I'm a bit faser with standard typing but not by much. On May 25, 2014, at 12:23 PM, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Desi, As I'm living in Iran and Fleksy or Mbraille do not support what is known as Pinglish (writing Farsi using English characters) I do have to type using the on-screen keyboard. It does feel like I'm too slow, however, even though I'm very fast when using a normal keyboard and even when using phones with software keyboards. I'm hoping to get to the point of single-tapping the letter I want to type in the touch typing mode. However, I haven't quite gotten there yet, although I practice as much as possible. HTH. On 5/25/2014 11:29 PM, Desi Noller wrote: Hi Everyone, I was recently having a discussion with a friend about how to type on the on-screen keyboard of the iPhone. Personally, I don't particularly like to use a special program for this like, for instance, mBraill or Fleksy. I just want to use the regular keyboard. Dictation can be useful, but of course, sometimes, it's just nice to be able to type something relatively privately. I have built up some speed over the past 3 years, but I would like to get faster. I generally hold my phone in my left hand, and use my right index finger to type, anchoring my thumb down where the connector is at the bottom of the phone. I'm interested to know how others who type using the regular on-screen keyboard, enter your text. I do happen to use Touch Typing mode, but I would also be interested in what typing mode you use. And, does anyone else besides me just use the regular on-screen keyboard for their typing needs? Thanks! Desi --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard
Parham, Perhaps the difficulty you are having with touch-typing is that you will have best results if you slide to the character you want, and not touch somewhere. Lifting off will enter the character. HTH. Glenn - Original Message - From: Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:23 PM Subject: Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard Hi Desi, As I'm living in Iran and Fleksy or Mbraille do not support what is known as Pinglish (writing Farsi using English characters) I do have to type using the on-screen keyboard. It does feel like I'm too slow, however, even though I'm very fast when using a normal keyboard and even when using phones with software keyboards. I'm hoping to get to the point of single-tapping the letter I want to type in the touch typing mode. However, I haven't quite gotten there yet, although I practice as much as possible. HTH. On 5/25/2014 11:29 PM, Desi Noller wrote: Hi Everyone, I was recently having a discussion with a friend about how to type on the on-screen keyboard of the iPhone. Personally, I don't particularly like to use a special program for this like, for instance, mBraill or Fleksy. I just want to use the regular keyboard. Dictation can be useful, but of course, sometimes, it's just nice to be able to type something relatively privately. I have built up some speed over the past 3 years, but I would like to get faster. I generally hold my phone in my left hand, and use my right index finger to type, anchoring my thumb down where the connector is at the bottom of the phone. I'm interested to know how others who type using the regular on-screen keyboard, enter your text. I do happen to use Touch Typing mode, but I would also be interested in what typing mode you use. And, does anyone else besides me just use the regular on-screen keyboard for their typing needs? Thanks! Desi --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard
Here you all go. I show how fast I can type using both methods. it's not fast. My goal in touch typing is 66.5 wpm but that will probably never happen. lol! https://audioboo.fm/boos/2195567-showing-how-fast-i-can-type-using-standard-typing-vs-touch-typing Take care to all and be blessed. On May 25, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote: Parham, Perhaps the difficulty you are having with touch-typing is that you will have best results if you slide to the character you want, and not touch somewhere. Lifting off will enter the character. HTH. Glenn - Original Message - From: Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:23 PM Subject: Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard Hi Desi, As I'm living in Iran and Fleksy or Mbraille do not support what is known as Pinglish (writing Farsi using English characters) I do have to type using the on-screen keyboard. It does feel like I'm too slow, however, even though I'm very fast when using a normal keyboard and even when using phones with software keyboards. I'm hoping to get to the point of single-tapping the letter I want to type in the touch typing mode. However, I haven't quite gotten there yet, although I practice as much as possible. HTH. On 5/25/2014 11:29 PM, Desi Noller wrote: Hi Everyone, I was recently having a discussion with a friend about how to type on the on-screen keyboard of the iPhone. Personally, I don't particularly like to use a special program for this like, for instance, mBraill or Fleksy. I just want to use the regular keyboard. Dictation can be useful, but of course, sometimes, it's just nice to be able to type something relatively privately. I have built up some speed over the past 3 years, but I would like to get faster. I generally hold my phone in my left hand, and use my right index finger to type, anchoring my thumb down where the connector is at the bottom of the phone. I'm interested to know how others who type using the regular on-screen keyboard, enter your text. I do happen to use Touch Typing mode, but I would also be interested in what typing mode you use. And, does anyone else besides me just use the regular on-screen keyboard for their typing needs? Thanks! Desi --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list
Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard
I do everything exactly as you do, although I don't use touch typing. I personally cannot stand it! It makes me very tense, and after about 2 mintues of typing my hand, and arm both hurt excrutiatingly. I neither use my thumb as an anker, but aside from that, everything you're doing is identical. I two hold the phone with my left hand, and use my right index. Although sometimes, I use my right pinki... LOL! just kidding. Ow! Now that! would be annoying! Chris. - Original Message - From: Desi Noller desi.nol...@gmail.com To: mac-access iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:59 PM Subject: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard Hi Everyone, I was recently having a discussion with a friend about how to type on the on-screen keyboard of the iPhone. Personally, I don't particularly like to use a special program for this like, for instance, mBraill or Fleksy. I just want to use the regular keyboard. Dictation can be useful, but of course, sometimes, it's just nice to be able to type something relatively privately. I have built up some speed over the past 3 years, but I would like to get faster. I generally hold my phone in my left hand, and use my right index finger to type, anchoring my thumb down where the connector is at the bottom of the phone. I'm interested to know how others who type using the regular on-screen keyboard, enter your text. I do happen to use Touch Typing mode, but I would also be interested in what typing mode you use. And, does anyone else besides me just use the regular on-screen keyboard for their typing needs? Thanks! Desi --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard
I can do somewhere in the neighborhood of about 25WPM, although, for a touch screen, that's halling major major! butt! Chris. - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 3:58 PM Subject: Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard Here you all go. I show how fast I can type using both methods. it's not fast. My goal in touch typing is 66.5 wpm but that will probably never happen. lol! https://audioboo.fm/boos/2195567-showing-how-fast-i-can-type-using-standard-typing-vs-touch-typing Take care to all and be blessed. On May 25, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote: Parham, Perhaps the difficulty you are having with touch-typing is that you will have best results if you slide to the character you want, and not touch somewhere. Lifting off will enter the character. HTH. Glenn - Original Message - From: Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:23 PM Subject: Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard Hi Desi, As I'm living in Iran and Fleksy or Mbraille do not support what is known as Pinglish (writing Farsi using English characters) I do have to type using the on-screen keyboard. It does feel like I'm too slow, however, even though I'm very fast when using a normal keyboard and even when using phones with software keyboards. I'm hoping to get to the point of single-tapping the letter I want to type in the touch typing mode. However, I haven't quite gotten there yet, although I practice as much as possible. HTH. On 5/25/2014 11:29 PM, Desi Noller wrote: Hi Everyone, I was recently having a discussion with a friend about how to type on the on-screen keyboard of the iPhone. Personally, I don't particularly like to use a special program for this like, for instance, mBraill or Fleksy. I just want to use the regular keyboard. Dictation can be useful, but of course, sometimes, it's just nice to be able to type something relatively privately. I have built up some speed over the past 3 years, but I would like to get faster. I generally hold my phone in my left hand, and use my right index finger to type, anchoring my thumb down where the connector is at the bottom of the phone. I'm interested to know how others who type using the regular on-screen keyboard, enter your text. I do happen to use Touch Typing mode, but I would also be interested in what typing mode you use. And, does anyone else besides me just use the regular on-screen keyboard for their typing needs? Thanks! Desi --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail
Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard
Mine via a test at a center for the blind. Now it's just an estomation. On May 25, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: How do you all measure the wpm? On May 25, 2014, at 17:23, Christopher-Mark Gilland cgwaxhawlo...@clgproductions.com wrote: I can do somewhere in the neighborhood of about 25WPM, although, for a touch screen, that's halling major major! butt! Chris. - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 3:58 PM Subject: Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard Here you all go. I show how fast I can type using both methods. it's not fast. My goal in touch typing is 66.5 wpm but that will probably never happen. lol! https://audioboo.fm/boos/2195567-showing-how-fast-i-can-type-using-standard-typing-vs-touch-typing Take care to all and be blessed. On May 25, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote: Parham, Perhaps the difficulty you are having with touch-typing is that you will have best results if you slide to the character you want, and not touch somewhere. Lifting off will enter the character. HTH. Glenn - Original Message - From: Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:23 PM Subject: Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard Hi Desi, As I'm living in Iran and Fleksy or Mbraille do not support what is known as Pinglish (writing Farsi using English characters) I do have to type using the on-screen keyboard. It does feel like I'm too slow, however, even though I'm very fast when using a normal keyboard and even when using phones with software keyboards. I'm hoping to get to the point of single-tapping the letter I want to type in the touch typing mode. However, I haven't quite gotten there yet, although I practice as much as possible. HTH. On 5/25/2014 11:29 PM, Desi Noller wrote: Hi Everyone, I was recently having a discussion with a friend about how to type on the on-screen keyboard of the iPhone. Personally, I don't particularly like to use a special program for this like, for instance, mBraill or Fleksy. I just want to use the regular keyboard. Dictation can be useful, but of course, sometimes, it's just nice to be able to type something relatively privately. I have built up some speed over the past 3 years, but I would like to get faster. I generally hold my phone in my left hand, and use my right index finger to type, anchoring my thumb down where the connector is at the bottom of the phone. I'm interested to know how others who type using the regular on-screen keyboard, enter your text. I do happen to use Touch Typing mode, but I would also be interested in what typing mode you use. And, does anyone else besides me just use the regular on-screen keyboard for their typing needs? Thanks! Desi --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options
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I don't. I'm taking a very wild guess. Chris. - Original Message - From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:49 PM Subject: Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard How do you all measure the wpm? On May 25, 2014, at 17:23, Christopher-Mark Gilland cgwaxhawlo...@clgproductions.com wrote: I can do somewhere in the neighborhood of about 25WPM, although, for a touch screen, that's halling major major! butt! Chris. - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 3:58 PM Subject: Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard Here you all go. I show how fast I can type using both methods. it's not fast. My goal in touch typing is 66.5 wpm but that will probably never happen. lol! https://audioboo.fm/boos/2195567-showing-how-fast-i-can-type-using-standard-typing-vs-touch-typing Take care to all and be blessed. On May 25, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote: Parham, Perhaps the difficulty you are having with touch-typing is that you will have best results if you slide to the character you want, and not touch somewhere. Lifting off will enter the character. HTH. Glenn - Original Message - From: Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:23 PM Subject: Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard Hi Desi, As I'm living in Iran and Fleksy or Mbraille do not support what is known as Pinglish (writing Farsi using English characters) I do have to type using the on-screen keyboard. It does feel like I'm too slow, however, even though I'm very fast when using a normal keyboard and even when using phones with software keyboards. I'm hoping to get to the point of single-tapping the letter I want to type in the touch typing mode. However, I haven't quite gotten there yet, although I practice as much as possible. HTH. On 5/25/2014 11:29 PM, Desi Noller wrote: Hi Everyone, I was recently having a discussion with a friend about how to type on the on-screen keyboard of the iPhone. Personally, I don't particularly like to use a special program for this like, for instance, mBraill or Fleksy. I just want to use the regular keyboard. Dictation can be useful, but of course, sometimes, it's just nice to be able to type something relatively privately. I have built up some speed over the past 3 years, but I would like to get faster. I generally hold my phone in my left hand, and use my right index finger to type, anchoring my thumb down where the connector is at the bottom of the phone. I'm interested to know how others who type using the regular on-screen keyboard, enter your text. I do happen to use Touch Typing mode, but I would also be interested in what typing mode you use. And, does anyone else besides me just use the regular on-screen keyboard for their typing needs? Thanks! Desi --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk
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Hi Glenn et al, I meant I'm trying to get to the point where I just tap the letter I want, not that I can currently achieve such a thing. The sighted just use thumbs of their both hands for typing, and I'm trying to get comfortable with that too. The point is that when you're typing with two fingers, your speed, once you get hang of it, is pretty much doubled. I can attest to that since my speed on a normal keyboard far bypasses my colleague programmers since I'm using all of my ten fingers, as opposed to four or six that sighted people usually do. HTH. On 5/26/2014 12:09 AM, Glenn wrote: Parham, Perhaps the difficulty you are having with touch-typing is that you will have best results if you slide to the character you want, and not touch somewhere. Lifting off will enter the character. HTH. Glenn - Original Message - From: Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:23 PM Subject: Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard Hi Desi, As I'm living in Iran and Fleksy or Mbraille do not support what is known as Pinglish (writing Farsi using English characters) I do have to type using the on-screen keyboard. It does feel like I'm too slow, however, even though I'm very fast when using a normal keyboard and even when using phones with software keyboards. I'm hoping to get to the point of single-tapping the letter I want to type in the touch typing mode. However, I haven't quite gotten there yet, although I practice as much as possible. HTH. On 5/25/2014 11:29 PM, Desi Noller wrote: Hi Everyone, I was recently having a discussion with a friend about how to type on the on-screen keyboard of the iPhone. Personally, I don't particularly like to use a special program for this like, for instance, mBraill or Fleksy. I just want to use the regular keyboard. Dictation can be useful, but of course, sometimes, it's just nice to be able to type something relatively privately. I have built up some speed over the past 3 years, but I would like to get faster. I generally hold my phone in my left hand, and use my right index finger to type, anchoring my thumb down where the connector is at the bottom of the phone. I'm interested to know how others who type using the regular on-screen keyboard, enter your text. I do happen to use Touch Typing mode, but I would also be interested in what typing mode you use. And, does anyone else besides me just use the regular on-screen keyboard for their typing needs? Thanks! Desi --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net
Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard
Interesting. I would do about 10 wpm on a phoen wiht buttons, or i did wiht my old dash. I can do quite fast but i don't yet feel comfortable wiht my thumbs. There is a youtube video of a guy doing about 80 wpm on an iphone's touch screen keyboard. Simply amazing. On May 25, 2014, at 10:10 PM, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Glenn et al, I meant I'm trying to get to the point where I just tap the letter I want, not that I can currently achieve such a thing. The sighted just use thumbs of their both hands for typing, and I'm trying to get comfortable with that too. The point is that when you're typing with two fingers, your speed, once you get hang of it, is pretty much doubled. I can attest to that since my speed on a normal keyboard far bypasses my colleague programmers since I'm using all of my ten fingers, as opposed to four or six that sighted people usually do. HTH. On 5/26/2014 12:09 AM, Glenn wrote: Parham, Perhaps the difficulty you are having with touch-typing is that you will have best results if you slide to the character you want, and not touch somewhere. Lifting off will enter the character. HTH. Glenn - Original Message - From: Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:23 PM Subject: Re: Typing On The iPhone's On-Screen Keyboard Hi Desi, As I'm living in Iran and Fleksy or Mbraille do not support what is known as Pinglish (writing Farsi using English characters) I do have to type using the on-screen keyboard. It does feel like I'm too slow, however, even though I'm very fast when using a normal keyboard and even when using phones with software keyboards. I'm hoping to get to the point of single-tapping the letter I want to type in the touch typing mode. However, I haven't quite gotten there yet, although I practice as much as possible. HTH. On 5/25/2014 11:29 PM, Desi Noller wrote: Hi Everyone, I was recently having a discussion with a friend about how to type on the on-screen keyboard of the iPhone. Personally, I don't particularly like to use a special program for this like, for instance, mBraill or Fleksy. I just want to use the regular keyboard. Dictation can be useful, but of course, sometimes, it's just nice to be able to type something relatively privately. I have built up some speed over the past 3 years, but I would like to get faster. I generally hold my phone in my left hand, and use my right index finger to type, anchoring my thumb down where the connector is at the bottom of the phone. I'm interested to know how others who type using the regular on-screen keyboard, enter your text. I do happen to use Touch Typing mode, but I would also be interested in what typing mode you use. And, does anyone else besides me just use the regular on-screen keyboard for their typing needs? Thanks! Desi --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net
