Installing Slash (dyld errors)
Hi, I am trying to install Slash on Mac OS X with Perl 5.8.0. I can configure, make, install everything without problems and Apache/mod_perl seems to work fine. I cannot, however, use the Slash installation. To be precise, I cannot use Slash::Apache::User. With DYLD_PRINT_LIBRARIES turned on, I get the following output from Perl: use Slash::Apache::User; loading libraries for image: /usr/local/perl5-8/Library/Perl/5.8.0/darwin/auto/Fcntl/Fcntl.bundle loading libraries for image: /usr/local/perl5-8/Library/Perl/5.8.0/darwin/auto/DBI/DBI.bundle loading libraries for image: /usr/local/perl5-8/Library/Perl/5.8.0/darwin/auto/Digest/MD5/MD5.bundle loading libraries for image: /usr/local/perl5-8/Library/Perl/5.8.0/darwin/auto/HTML/Parser/ Parser.bundle loading libraries for image: /usr/local/perl5-8/Library/Perl/5.8.0/darwin/auto/Cwd/Cwd.bundle loading libraries for image: /usr/local/perl5-8/Library/Perl/5.8.0/darwin/auto/Opcode/Opcode.bundle loading libraries for image: /usr/local/perl5-8/Library/Perl/5.8.0/darwin/auto/IO/IO.bundle loading libraries for image: /usr/local/perl5-8/Library/Perl/5.8.0/darwin/auto/XML/Parser/Expat/ Expat.bundle loading library: /sw/lib/libexpat.0.dylib loading libraries for image: /sw/lib/libexpat.0.dylib loading libraries for image: /usr/local/perl5-8/Library/Perl/5.8.0/darwin/auto/Socket/Socket.bundle loading libraries for image: /usr/local/perl5-8/Library/Perl/5.8.0/darwin/auto/MIME/Base64/ Base64.bundle loading libraries for image: /usr/local/perl5-8/Library/Perl/5.8.0/darwin/auto/POSIX/POSIX.bundle loading libraries for image: /usr/local/perl5-8/Library/Perl/5.8.0/darwin/auto/Slash/Apache/ Apache.bundle dyld: /usr/local/perl5-8/bin/perl Undefined symbols: _ap_add_module _ap_find_linked_module _ap_null_cleanup _ap_palloc _ap_register_cleanup _ap_remove_module _perl_clear_symtab _perl_cmd_perl_FLAG _perl_cmd_perl_TAKE1 _perl_cmd_perl_TAKE2 _perl_get_startup_pool _perl_perl_cmd_cleanup Trace/BPT trap I tried fink rebuild expat but that didn't help either. I tried the installation using the Perl 5.8 tutorial at Apple's and I tried it using Nathan's Perl-distribution (thank you, Nathan!). I'm afraid I have next to no knowledge about XS and don't really understand the setup with auto and bundle, any reading recommendation? And any ideas on resolving the issues above? Best regards, Christian
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
On 6/2/03 1:03, Nathan Torkington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please download and test the perl 5.8.0 distribution available from: http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg [...] I get a text transfer of the binary when trying to d/l this in Mozilla, IE and Omni Web instead of the disk image. This is the first time this has happened for a long time and I can't remember how to fix it. Anybody? With the help of Fink, I managed to totally trash my system. I reinstalled yesterday, and went through the hassle of building Perl 5.8.0 all over again. I figured I'd save other folks that hassle. Ugh! At the risk of veering wildly OT, what happened (must be my day for questions ;-)? Regards, Phil.
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
Please download and test the perl 5.8.0 distribution available from: http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg I get a text transfer of the binary when trying to d/l this in Mozilla, IE and Omni Web instead of the disk image. This is the first time this has happened for a long time and I can't remember how to fix it. Anybody? wget http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg :) -- Morbus Iff ( i'm the droid you're looking for ) Culture: http://www.disobey.com/ and http://www.gamegrene.com/ Please Me: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/wishlist/25USVJDH68554 icq: 2927491 / aim: akaMorbus / yahoo: morbus_iff / jabber.org: morbus
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
On 6/2/03 14:30, Morbus Iff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please download and test the perl 5.8.0 distribution available from: http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg I get a text transfer of the binary when trying to d/l this in Mozilla, IE and Omni Web instead of the disk image. This is the first time this has happened for a long time and I can't remember how to fix it. Anybody? wget http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg I'm still using 10.1.5: bash2.05 phil@localhost ~ $ whereis wget bash2.05 phil@localhost ~ $ whereis curl /usr/bin/curl So it looks like `curl' ;-) Regards, Phil.
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
wget http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg I'm still using 10.1.5: bash2.05 phil@localhost ~ $ whereis wget bash2.05 phil@localhost ~ $ whereis curl /usr/bin/curl Aaah, yeah, I forgot all about that. I hate how they replaced wget with curl - drives me absolutely batty, as curl can't seem (or rather, I've never gotten it) to follow Redirect's properly. It'll either loop xx times, then die, or loop xx times and segfault. Stupid flipping curl. wget is, however, available through fink and as a .dmg. -- Morbus Iff ( i'm the droid you're looking for ) Culture: http://www.disobey.com/ and http://www.gamegrene.com/ Please Me: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/wishlist/25USVJDH68554 icq: 2927491 / aim: akaMorbus / yahoo: morbus_iff / jabber.org: morbus
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
At 09:36 PM 2/5/03 -0800, Michael Maibaum wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 08:37 PM, Chris Nandor wrote: Now, who is going to do a dmg of Apache / mod_perl / libapreq? :-) We'll be providing .pkg and .mpkgs shortly, and the packages that there are already are availible over webdav or from the website (webdav address is http://packages.opendarwin.org/) These packages are still in testing at the moment... Perhaps this is a stupid question, but could someone explain the difference between a disk image (dmg) and a package (pkg)? I know the dmg mounts a virtual drive, but other than that which is better? Drew -- Drew Taylor| Web development consulting http://www.drewtaylor.com/ | perl/mod_perl/DBI/mysql/postgres -- Netflix: DVD Rentals by mail with NO late fees or due dates! Free Trial - http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=36126240 --
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 07:37 AM, Drew Taylor wrote: At 09:36 PM 2/5/03 -0800, Michael Maibaum wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 08:37 PM, Chris Nandor wrote: Now, who is going to do a dmg of Apache / mod_perl / libapreq? :-) We'll be providing .pkg and .mpkgs shortly, and the packages that there are already are availible over webdav or from the website (webdav address is http://packages.opendarwin.org/) These packages are still in testing at the moment... Perhaps this is a stupid question, but could someone explain the difference between a disk image (dmg) and a package (pkg)? I know the dmg mounts a virtual drive, but other than that which is better? The dmg usually contains a .pkg which is run once the dmg is mounted. Michael -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQE+QokPilk3LUlIL0MRAgSEAJ47Z7Tpf9LSaQvVVIxk4AozeUMY7wCfVL0g DLk1TXq7RQ+xz9rcSGhi3lI= =qcWT -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
Drew Taylor writes: Perhaps this is a stupid question, but could someone explain the difference between a disk image (dmg) and a package (pkg)? I know the dmg mounts a virtual drive, but other than that which is better? A .dmg is a file containing a filesystem, kinda like a .iso for CD-ROM filesystems. A .dmg can contain programs that you run directly from the disk image. This is how Mozilla is shipped--no installer, just a folder you drag to your Applications directory. A .dmg doesn't even have to contain programs--I could ship a .dmg of images, text files, anything. A .pkg is specifically just a distribution of files to be installed using the Installer program. You can add pre- and post- actions to a package (which I should have done for Perl--update your .cshrc to add /usr/local/perl5-8 to the path). The prompting for admin password, confirming acceptance of the license, selecting the drive to install on ... all that's done by the Installer program in response to instructions in the .pkg file. I used .pkg instead of .dmg because Perl's location is hard-coded in the binary, so it *has* to go into /usr/local/perl5-8. If I'd just given you a filesystem, you could have copied it anywhere and then filled my mailbox with you suck, Torkington! email :-) Nat
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 09:37 AM, Drew Taylor wrote: At 09:36 PM 2/5/03 -0800, Michael Maibaum wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 08:37 PM, Chris Nandor wrote: Now, who is going to do a dmg of Apache / mod_perl / libapreq? :-) We'll be providing .pkg and .mpkgs shortly, and the packages that there are already are availible over webdav or from the website (webdav address is http://packages.opendarwin.org/) These packages are still in testing at the moment... Perhaps this is a stupid question, but could someone explain the difference between a disk image (dmg) and a package (pkg)? I know the dmg mounts a virtual drive, but other than that which is better? a package is a way of putting several things together into one bundle. An application package contains all the things the application needs to run (the binary executable, the preflists, icons and other resources, nibs, help files, etc.). An installer package contains the different things required to make an application run successfully, but those things may need to go to different locations on the hard drive. For example, the gimp package at darwinports puts together all the nonsense required by gimp to run successfully (actually, it leaves out gtk and gtk2, but that is another story), so that ignoramuses like me can one click install -- like magic, everything goes to its correct place, and then it works. A disk image is just a way to deliver the package. You could just as well stuffit the package and supply that. Perhaps even uuencode it and send it in an annoyingly long email accessible via elm...
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
On 6/2/03 14:30, Morbus Iff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please download and test the perl 5.8.0 distribution available from: http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg I get a text transfer of the binary when trying to d/l this in Mozilla, IE and Omni Web instead of the disk image. This is the first time this has happened for a long time and I can't remember how to fix it. Anybody? wget http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg Curiouser and curiouser... I tried `curl http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg' And got the same binary text d/l (and had to crash `terminal' to stop it :-( Hmm... Regards, Phil.
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
I tried `curl http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg' And got the same binary text d/l (and had to crash `terminal' to stop it :-( Curl, by default, will spit to STDOUT (ie. your Terminal) not to a file. I'm not in front of a OS X box right now, but I believe you've got to do: curl -O http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg -- Morbus Iff ( i'm the droid you're looking for ) Culture: http://www.disobey.com/ and http://www.gamegrene.com/ Please Me: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/wishlist/25USVJDH68554 icq: 2927491 / aim: akaMorbus / yahoo: morbus_iff / jabber.org: morbus
Re: setenv LANG in v5.8
On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 08:51 AM, Pavel Stranak wrote: Perl 5.6 works fine with ANY LC_ALL and any LANG in the same shell. How is it possible? having gone through this problem a while back, and piecing the jigsaw together I surmised that Apple does some compile time magic to get these two global variables to set. Setting these as shell environment variables works as long as you run your scripts under a shell - scripts run as cron jobs will start complaining becase they use the system wide environment. How to solve this problem along with a perl script which does it all for you can be found in the archives of this list: http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/archive/macosx-admin/2002-September/ 025590.html under the seach friendly subject Locale setting errors - LC_ALL, LANG I would further add that perl complains if you don't set LC_ALL to C because not all locale issues are connected to text processing, a lot of numeric functions depend on locale - so unless you wish to use say roman numerals instead of decimals, you shouldn't have any real need for any other locale definition beyond the standard C library. LANG you can set to whatever you wish I believe*, as this aids perl in its text processing abilities, though I haven't tried setting this to anything other than English. * provided it is an existising local definition HTH Robin
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
Phil Dobbin wrote:
On 6/2/03 14:30, Morbus Iff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please download and test the perl 5.8.0 distribution available from:
http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg
I get a text transfer of the binary when trying to d/l this in Mozilla, IE
and Omni Web instead of the disk image. This is the first time this has
happened for a long time and I can't remember how to fix it. Anybody?
wget http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg
Curiouser and curiouser...
I tried `curl http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg'
And got the same binary text d/l (and had to crash `terminal' to stop it :-(
from my cygwin version (should be the same on OS X) --
C:\htdocs\eidesis\cgi-bincurl --help
curl 7.9.8 (i686-pc-cygwin) libcurl 7.9.8 (OpenSSL 0.9.6g)
Usage: curl [options...] url
Options: (H) means HTTP/HTTPS only, (F) means FTP only
-a/--appendAppend to target file when uploading (F)
-A/--user-agent string User-Agent to send to server (H)
-b/--cookie name=string/file Cookie string or file to read cookies
from (H)
-B/--use-ascii Use ASCII/text transfer
-c/--cookie-jar file Write all cookies to this file after operation (H)
-C/--continue-at offset Specify absolute resume offset
-d/--data data HTTP POST data (H)
--data-ascii data HTTP POST ASCII data (H)
--data-binary data HTTP POST binary data (H)
--disable-epsv Prevents curl from using EPSV (F)
-D/--dump-header file Write the headers to this file
--egd-file file EGD socket path for random data (SSL)
-e/--referer Referer page (H)
-E/--cert cert[:passwd] Specifies your certificate file and password
(HTTPS)
--cert-type type Specifies certificate file type (DER/PEM/ENG)
(HTTPS)
--key key Specifies private key file (HTTPS)
--key-type type Specifies private key file type (DER/PEM/ENG)
(HTTPS)
--pass pass Specifies passphrase for the private key (HTTPS)
--engine eng Specifies the crypto engine to use (HTTPS)
--cacert file CA certifciate to verify peer against (SSL)
--capath directory CA directory (made using c_rehash) to verify
peer against (SSL, NOT Windows)
--ciphers list What SSL ciphers to use (SSL)
--connect-timeout seconds Maximum time allowed for connection
-f/--fail Fail silently (no output at all) on errors (H)
-F/--form name=content Specify HTTP POST data (H)
-g/--globoff Disable URL sequences and ranges using {} and []
-G/--get Send the -d data with a HTTP GET (H)
-h/--help This help text
-H/--header line Custom header to pass to server. (H)
-i/--include Include the HTTP-header in the output (H)
-I/--head Fetch document info only (HTTP HEAD/FTP SIZE)
-j/--junk-session-cookies Ignore session cookies read from file (H)
--interface interface Specify the interface to be used
--krb4 level Enable krb4 with specified security level (F)
-K/--configSpecify which config file to read
-l/--list-only List only names of an FTP directory (F)
-L/--location Follow Location: hints (H)
-m/--max-time seconds Maximum time allowed for the transfer
-M/--manualDisplay huge help text
-n/--netrc Must read .netrc for user name and password
--netrc-optional Use either .netrc or URL; overrides -n
-N/--no-buffer Disables the buffering of the output stream
-o/--output file Write output to file instead of stdout
-O/--remote-name Write output to a file named as the remote file
-p/--proxytunnel Perform non-HTTP services through a HTTP proxy
-P/--ftpport address Use PORT with address instead of PASV when
ftping (F)
-q When used as the first parameter disables .curlrc
-Q/--quote cmd Send QUOTE command to FTP before file transfer (F)
-r/--range range Retrieve a byte range from a HTTP/1.1 or FTP server
-R/--remote-time Set the remote file's time on the local output
-s/--silentSilent mode. Don't output anything
-S/--show-errorShow error. With -s, make curl show errors when
they occur
--stderr file Where to redirect stderr. - means stdout.
-t/--telnet-option OPT=val Set telnet option
--trace file Dump a network/debug trace to the given file
--trace-ascii file Like --trace but without the hex output
-T/--upload-file file Transfer/upload file to remote site
--url URL Another way to specify URL to work with
-u/--user user[:password] Specify user and password to use
Overrides -n and --netrc-optional
-U/--proxy-user user[:password] Specify Proxy authentication
-v/--verbose Makes the operation more talkative
-V/--version Outputs version number then quits
-w/--write-out [format] What to output after completion
-x/--proxy host[:port] Use proxy. (Default port is 1080)
--random-file file File to use for reading random data from (SSL)
-X/--request command Specific request command to use
-y/--speed-timeTime
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
Hey Nat -- Thanks. Downloaded and installed just fine on my t?rusty G4-350, OS X 10.2.3. I've been under a major deadline until last week, so I've just been watching everyone's travails with upgrading their OS X Perl installation. I took the risk of upgrading to Jaguar when it came out, but decided to wait on messing with Perl, even though I'd been running 5.6.1 pre-jag. This week I had just replaced my system Perl with 5.6.1 when you posted this. So now I have both 'good' versions of Perl available. For now 5.8.0 is just for fun and my own local tools -- my applications are on too many machines with older distributions -- pre-millennial, even... After all the comments about downloading and wget/curl problems, I just wanted to let you know that, at least for one person, it worked out of the box, er, dmg. Did notice the DB_File version is: # /usr/local/perl5-8/Library/Perl/5.8.0/darwin/DB_File.pm # last modified 22nd October 2002 # version 1.806 Typo in your announcement? On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 05:03 PM, Nathan Torkington wrote: It installs Perl, Berkeley DB 4.1.25, DB_File 1.42 and Time::HiRes 1.42 into /usr/local/perl5-8. You'll need to add Thanks! - Bruce __bruce__van_allen__santa_cruz__ca__
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
On 6/2/03 16:58, Morbus Iff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried `curl http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg' And got the same binary text d/l (and had to crash `terminal' to stop it :-( Curl, by default, will spit to STDOUT (ie. your Terminal) not to a file. I'm not in front of a OS X box right now, but I believe you've got to do: curl -O http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg Thanks, Morbus, it now works fine Teach me not to read the manpage... Regards, Phil.
(CB) selecting text from an NSTableView
I'm using an NSTableView to display a bunch of text. Selecting a row causes an explanation to appear in an accompanying NSTextView. I'm able to select text from the latter, but not from the former. I suspect that this is simply a characteristic of the NSTableView (using selections to cause actions precludes using them to grab text) and that I'll have to figure out a workaround, but does anyone have any comments or suggestions to offer? -r -- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; phone: +1 650-873-7841 http://www.cfcl.com/rdm- my home page, resume, etc. http://www.cfcl.com/Meta - The FreeBSD Browser, Meta Project, etc. http://www.ptf.com/dossier - Prime Time Freeware's DOSSIER series http://www.ptf.com/tdc - Prime Time Freeware's Darwin Collection
Camelbones outline view data sources
does anyone have an example of a class implementing a datasource for an outline view? Table views I understand and have working, but I'm not getting very far with the outline views, and the PB docs aren't as helpful as for the table views... Ideally I'd like a class that just wraps a perl hash tree and makes it available to the view, but even simple working code would be nice.. Tom
Re: Creating Fat XS Modules
At 9:54 AM -0800 2/6/03, Mark Alldritt wrote: Hi Folks, I have an XS Perl module that I need to distribute in binary form as part of a larger Mac OS X application. However, because I want to support Perl 5.6 and 5.8 and these two versions are not binary compatible, I'm looking for a way to package 5.6 and 5.8 builds of my module. Can anyone offer any suggestions on how to do this? I'm not sure this is that feasable. It's easy enough to build a 5.6.0 perl module, because Apple ships that with OS X and you can link against it OK. 5.8.0, though, will be a custom build, and it'll be tough to make sure you build your XS module against a perl with the same options as the 5.8.0 the user's custom-built. Choose something wrong (multiplicity, threads, 64-bitness) and you'll fail reasonably badly, unfortunately. -- Dan --it's like this--- Dan Sugalski even samurai [EMAIL PROTECTED] have teddy bears and even teddy bears get drunk
Re: Creating Fat XS Modules
On Thursday, Feb 6, 2003, at 09:54 US/Pacific, Mark Alldritt wrote:
Hi Folks,
I have an XS Perl module that I need to distribute in binary form as
part of
a larger Mac OS X application. However, because I want to support
Perl 5.6
and 5.8 and these two versions are not binary compatible, I'm looking
for a
way to package 5.6 and 5.8 builds of my module. Can anyone offer any
suggestions on how to do this?
the simplest way is to have your source code build
under two different perl's - if you have the usual
Makefile.pl that would normally start with
perl Makefile.pl
make
then what you can do is generate your makefile with
/usr/bin/perl5.6.1 Makefile.pl
make
do the voodoo for pulling out your 'binary only' set
then make it again with
/usr/bin/perl5.8.0 Makefile.pl
{ repeat here for the make of the binary only set }
Since it is identifying the 'perl' that is used when
spinning out the Makefile that is the important part.
You can also look at a trick we use, which is that
we have all of the perl modules in a separate place
and a 'common' architeture specific arch file that
we include into an upper level makefile that defines
which perl we are using to make the makefiles.
HTH
ciao
drieux
---
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
Puneet Kishor writes: On a related note -- Nat, please, if you could summarize how fink trashed your system so much that you had to reinstall... that might be as great a help as creating a perl dmg. Fink makes a very big issue of how it protects your system by installing under /sw, and remaining separate from the system. Seems like while it does all that, it also has to capability of hosing the system. It's only suspicion on my part, because it's six months of compiling software. I think the big hassle came with my upgrading to the latest Fink--I think that broke the Perl I'd installed, which had inadvertently trashed the system Perl. However, I'd several times interrupted fink attempting to compile things from source, and I wonder whether one of those might have give me the GNU du in /usr/bin instead of in /sw. I'm not certain enough to blame fink for that. why? I could have lived with a messy Fink upgrade. I'd just rm -rf /sw and reinstall. I could also have lived with a broken Perl. I'd just rm -rf /Library/Perl and /System/Library/Perl and reinstall Perl. But finding a stray du in /usr/bin scared the crap out of me, and at that point I didn't know how much of my system was no longer standard. Anyone else could live with that. I have to edit books where we claim that things work a particular way on OS X. We've already been bitten--fink's du has a -h option that Apple's du doesn't, and without realizing it we described -h in Learning Unix for Mac OS X, 2ed. So I really need a clean sane system. Nat
Re: Camelbones outline view data sources
At 5:58 PM + 2/6/03, Tom Insam wrote: does anyone have an example of a class implementing a datasource for an outline view? Table views I understand and have working, but I'm not getting very far with the outline views, and the PB docs aren't as helpful as for the table views... Ideally I'd like a class that just wraps a perl hash tree and makes it available to the view, but even simple working code would be nice.. What he said... I'm also planning to use an outline view, so some help along those lines would be most useful. -r -- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; phone: +1 650-873-7841 http://www.cfcl.com/rdm- my home page, resume, etc. http://www.cfcl.com/Meta - The FreeBSD Browser, Meta Project, etc. http://www.ptf.com/dossier - Prime Time Freeware's DOSSIER series http://www.ptf.com/tdc - Prime Time Freeware's Darwin Collection
Re: setenv LANG in v5.8
On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 08:51 AM, Pavel Stranak wrote: Perl 5.6 works fine with ANY LC_ALL and any LANG in the same shell. How is it possible? having gone through this problem a while back, and piecing the jigsaw together I surmised that Apple does some compile time magic to get these two global variables to set. Setting these as shell environment variables works as long as you run your scripts under a shell - scripts run as cron jobs will start complaining becase they use the system wide environment. How to solve this problem along with a perl script which does it all for you can be found in the archives of this list: http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/archive/macosx-admin/2002-September/ 025590.html under the seach friendly subject Locale setting errors - LC_ALL, LANG I would further add that perl complains if you don't set LC_ALL to C because not all locale issues are connected to text processing, a lot of numeric functions depend on locale - so unless you wish to use say roman numerals instead of decimals, you shouldn't have any real need for any other locale definition beyond the standard C library. LANG you can set to whatever you wish I believe*, as this aids perl in its text processing abilities, though I haven't tried setting this to anything other than English. * provided it is an existising locale definition HTH Robin
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
Bruce Van Allen writes: After all the comments about downloading and wget/curl problems, I just wanted to let you know that, at least for one person, it worked out of the box, er, dmg. That is good to know, thanks! (Maybe I should add an installer shell script that curl's a page to let me know that someone successfully installed it :-) Did notice the DB_File version is: # /usr/local/perl5-8/Library/Perl/5.8.0/darwin/DB_File.pm # last modified 22nd October 2002 # version 1.806 Typo in your announcement? Yes, braino on my part. Good catch! Thanks, Nat
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
At 4:55 PM + 2/6/03, Phil Dobbin wrote: On 6/2/03 14:30, Morbus Iff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please download and test the perl 5.8.0 distribution available from: http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg I get a text transfer of the binary when trying to d/l this in Mozilla, IE and Omni Web instead of the disk image. This is the first time this has happened for a long time and I can't remember how to fix it. Anybody? wget http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg Curiouser and curiouser... I tried `curl http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg' And got the same binary text d/l (and had to crash `terminal' to stop it :-( I think you need to use the -o flag with a filename as an argument to send the output to a file instead of stdout. Or redirect it via . -- Heather Madrone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.madrone.com If we're not having fun, we're not doing it right.
Re: Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
Bruce Van Allen writes: After all the comments about downloading and wget/curl problems, I just wanted to let you know that, at least for one person, it worked out of the box, er, dmg. I went you one better--after it installed it, I fired up CPAN and installed Class::DBI, along with its copious dependencies. Other than stopping in the middle when I went to bed last night, it went fine. Thanks, John A see me fulminate at http://www.jzip.org/
Re: macosx Digest 6 Feb 2003 19:38:59 -0000 Issue 304
Nathan Torkington wrote: However, I'd several times interrupted fink attempting to compile things from source, and I wonder whether one of those might have give me the GNU du in /usr/bin instead of in /sw. I'm not certain enough to blame fink for that. [...] But finding a stray du in /usr/bin scared the crap out of me, and at that point I didn't know how much of my system was no longer standard. Are you running Jaguar? I'm on 10.2.3 and have /usr/bin/du too, not /sw/du, but it doesn't look like a problem. In fact, fink doesn't even list a du package. % which du /usr/bin/du % ls -al /sw/du ls: /sw/du: No such file or directory % fink --version Package manager version: 0.11.2 Distribution version: 0.5.1.cvs % fink list du Information about 2124 packages read in 6 seconds. [yadda yadda, du not listed] % more /sw/etc/fink.conf # Fink configuration, initially created by bootstrap.pl Basepath: /sw RootMethod: sudo Trees: local/main stable/main stable/crypto local/bootstrap unstable/main unstable/crypto Distribution: 10.2 [blah blah blah] % uname -a Darwin [my host name] 6.3 Darwin Kernel Version 6.3: Sat Dec 14 03:11:25 PST 2002; root:xnu/xnu-344.23.obj~4/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc % ls -l /usr/bin/du -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 14172 Dec 26 08:10 /usr/bin/du % ls -l /usr/bin | grep 'Dec 26 08:10' | wc -l 386 % ls -l /usr/bin | grep -v 'Dec 26 08:10' | wc -l 183 So what happened at 8:10 on December 26? The 386 binaries last modified then include ar, at, awk, basename, biff, bison, chgrp (but not chown), cmp, diff, etc. OTOH, the 183 files with other mod. dates include apropos, autoconf, gcc, gdb, java, nroff, osascript, etc. Anyone else could live with that. I have to edit books where we claim that things work a particular way on OS X. We've already been bitten--fink's du has a -h option that Apple's du doesn't, and without realizing it we described -h in Learning Unix for Mac OS X, 2ed. So I really need a clean sane system. Nasty. FWIW, my du doesn't have -h: % du -h du: illegal option -- h usage: du [-H | -L | -P] [-a | -s] [-ckx] [file ...] HTH in some small way, even though it's too late for you. Paul. -- Paul Hoffman :: Taubman Medical Library :: Univ. of Michigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: http://www.nkuitse.com/
A small Type and Creator weirdness
I'm using MacOSX::File::Info to get the Type and Creator codes for files.
In trying to print these (e.g., via NSLog and in an NSTextView), I ran
into a peculiar symptom: not only did the code not print, any following
information on the line also disappeared.
After a bit of research, I confirmed that the creator and type methods
were returning a string of four nulls when no real code was available.
This is probably normal behavior in Macland, but it's distinctly non-
Perlish. Sigh.
Anyway, my workaround was to generate my own string of four nulls,
which I could use to check return values:
my $null = \000\000\000\000;
$tmp = $finfo-creator;
$tmp = '' if ($tmp eq $null);
row(' Creator', '$tmp');
$tmp = $finfo-type;
$tmp = '' if ($tmp eq $null);
row(' Type', '$tmp');
-r
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Re: Creating Fat XS Modules
On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 10:14 AM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
Something like this:
BEGIN {
if ($^V =~ /5.6/) {
use lib /Library/AppName/Perl5_6;
} elsif ($^V =~ /5.8/) {
use lib /Library/AppName/Perl5_8;
} else {
die Unknown Perl version found.;
}
}
use My::Module;
For the archive record, that won't work, because 'use' is done at
compile-time (here, the compile-time of the BEGIN block, which is
Compile Man's compile-time), before the if() statement has a chance to
work.
In other words, look at this test case:
[junior:~/bin/test] ken% cat use.pl
#!/usr/bin/perl
BEGIN {
$foo = 5;
if ($foo) {
use lib FOO;
} else {
use lib NOT_FOO;
}
}
print $_\n foreach @INC;
[junior:~/bin/test] ken% perl use.pl
NOT_FOO
FOO
/sw/lib/perl5/5.6.1/darwin
/sw/lib/perl5/5.6.1
/Library/Perl/darwin
/Library/Perl
.
But the following does work:
[junior:~/bin/test] ken% cat use.pl
#!/usr/bin/perl
BEGIN {
$foo = 5;
if ($foo) {
unshift @INC, FOO;
} else {
unshift @INC, NOT_FOO;
}
}
print $_\n foreach @INC;
[junior:~/bin/test] ken% perl use.pl
FOO
/sw/lib/perl5/5.6.1/darwin
/sw/lib/perl5/5.6.1
/Library/Perl/darwin
/Library/Perl
/Library/Perl
.
-Ken
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
Nathan Torkington wrote: Are you running Jaguar? I'm on 10.2.3 and have /usr/bin/du too, not /sw/du, but it doesn't look like a problem. In fact, fink doesn't even list a du package. % which du /usr/bin/du % ls -al /sw/du ls: /sw/du: No such file or directory The fileutils package includes a number of shell utilities. I seem to remember reading that some packages preferred if it was installed. % dpkg --listfiles fileutils | egrep du /sw/bin/du /sw/share/man/man1/du.1 This would be the one with the -h option Nat mentioned. Paul
Re: A small Type and Creator weirdness
At 16:44 -0800 6/2/03, Rich Morin wrote:
I'm using MacOSX::File::Info to get the Type and Creator codes for files.
In trying to print these (e.g., via NSLog and in an NSTextView), I ran
into a peculiar symptom: not only did the code not print, any following
information on the line also disappeared.
After a bit of research, I confirmed that the creator and type methods
were returning a string of four nulls when no real code was available.
This is probably normal behavior in Macland, but it's distinctly non-
Perlish. Sigh.
File types and creators are arbitrary binary 4 byte numbers. It is
only by convention that they are reasonably textish, and also by
Apple's decree, you can't use creators or types that are all
lowercase letters unless you're Apple. They can certainly contain
weird characters such as control characters and high bit set
characters.
Also, Perl has no problem with strings containing such characters -
indeed perl can easily deal with strings that contain four arbitrary
bytes. So it is not non-Perlish at all.
It is non-C-ish to treat arbitrary binary data as a string because C
strings are nul terminated and thus cannot contain zero bytes.
Interestingly, it is also not non-Pascalish because Pascal, like
Perl, can have arbitrary binary data in strings (although Pascal is
typically limited to 255 characters in strings, unlike Perl). This
is why under traditional Mac OS which was heavily Pascal based, file
names could have any character, including nul, except colon (:) in
them, although it was not at all recomended to do such a thing.
So your solution is inadequate. You probably want to convert any
bogus characters to perhaps . or ?, eg:
$tmp = $finfo-creator;
$tmp =~ tr/ -~/?/c;
Alternatively, convert it to \123 notation.
$tmp =~ s/([^ -~])/\\.sprintf(%03o,ord($1))/ge;
Enjoy,
Peter.
Anyway, my workaround was to generate my own string of four nulls,
which I could use to check return values:
my $null = \000\000\000\000;
$tmp = $finfo-creator;
$tmp = '' if ($tmp eq $null);
row(' Creator', '$tmp');
$tmp = $finfo-type;
$tmp = '' if ($tmp eq $null);
row(' Type', '$tmp');
-r
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Re: A small Type and Creator weirdness
At 11:44 AM +0800 2/7/03, Peter N Lewis wrote:
File types and creators are arbitrary binary 4 byte numbers. ...
Thanks for the clarification! I now print the values both as
sanitized text and in hex:
# ftype - format type (or creator) value
#
sub ftype {
my ($code) = @_;
my (@t,
$tmp1, $tmp2);
($tmp1 = $code) =~ s|([^ -~])|.|g;
@t = unpack('C4', $code);
$tmp2 = sprintf(%02x%02x%02x%02x, $t[0], $t[1], $t[2], $t[3]);
return('$tmp1' (0x$tmp2));
}
Thus:
Creator 'MACS' (0x4d414353)
Type 'fdrp' (0x66647270)
and
Creator '' (0x)
Type '' (0x)
-r
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