Re: Frickin' CPAN
I feel like nobody's listening...
Look at your 'tar', 'unzip', 'lynx', and 'gzip' entries. They don't
actually include the name of the program.
Here are the equivalent ones from my config:
'gzip' => q[/usr/bin/gzip],
'lynx' => q[],
'tar' => q[/usr/bin/tar],
'unzip' => q[/usr/bin/unzip],
-Ken
On Jun 9, 2005, at 10:04 AM, John Mercer wrote:
Hi guys,
Firewall problems? Or config problems? Or both?
I've found that CPAN works when I run "sudo perl -MCPAN etc", but not
when I run as root: "macbox:/ root# perl -MCPAN". I find that very
strange, but hey, if it works as sudo, it works and that's all I need.
However, it doesn't work very well. When I run CPAN it take FOREVER to
download modules, but then installs them pretty quickly (at least when
there aren't any errors--and I often have plenty). Could my firewall
by interfering with CPAN? I don't have anything fancy: just the OSX
Tiger firewall and a Netgear router on a home-office network. Do I
need to tweak some obscure config file so that CPAN can get in and out
of the firewall.
PPM also takes forever to download, if it downloads at all.
In case it help, I've appended the sudo/root config file below. Please
let me know if anything's wrong w/ it.
Many thanks,
John Mercer
/System/Library/Perl/5.8.6/CPAN/Config.pm
build_cache20
build_dir /var/root/.cpan/build
cache_metadata 1
cpan_home /var/root/.cpan
dontload_hash
ftp/usr/bin/ftp
ftp_proxy
getcwd cwd
gpg
gzip /usr/bin
histfile /var/root/.cpan/histfile
histsize 100
http_proxy
inactivity_timeout 0
index_expire 1
inhibit_startup_message 0
keep_source_where /var/root/.cpan/sources
lynx /sw/bin
make /usr/bin/make
make_arg
make_install_arg
makepl_arg
ncftpget /usr/bin/ncftpget
no_proxy
pager /usr/bin/less
prerequisites_policy ask
scan_cache atstart
shell /bin/sh
tar/usr/bin
term_is_latin 1
unzip /usr/bin
urllist
ftp://ftp.sunsite.utk.edu/pub/CPAN/
ftp://ftp.theshell.com/pub/CPAN/
ftp://ftp.uwsg.iu.edu/pub/perl/CPAN/
ftp://linux.cs.lewisu.edu/pub/CPAN
ftp://mirror.candidhosting.com/pub/CPAN
ftp://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/software/cpan/
ftp://mirror.datapipe.net/pub/CPAN/
ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/
ftp://mirror.sg.depaul.edu/pub/CPAN/
ftp://mirror.sit.wisc.edu/pub/CPAN/
ftp://mirror.xmission.com/CPAN/
ftp://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/CPAN
ftp://mirrors.jtlnet.com/CPAN/
ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/pub/CPAN
ftp://mirrors.phenominet.com/pub/CPAN/
ftp://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/lang/CPAN/
ftp://perl.secsup.org/pub/perl/
http://cpan.belfry.net/
http://cpan.binarycompass.org
http://cpan.mirrors.hoobly.com/
http://cpan.mirrors.nks.net/
wget /sw/bin/wget
On Jun 8, 2005, at 9:56 PM, Ken Williams wrote:
Hi John,
The permissions thing is a red herring.
Look more closely at the error message. It's trying to run a program
called "/usr/bin". Look at your CPAN configuration ("o conf" in the
CPAN shell) to figure out why.
-Ken
On Jun 8, 2005, at 3:14 PM, John Mercer wrote:
Hi all,
CPAN is being a pain in the ass, and I don't know what the problem
is. Here's an error message when I run "install Bundle::XML".
Can't exec "/usr/bin": Permission denied at
/System/Library/Perl/5.8.6/darwin-thread-multi-2level/IO/File.pm
line 176, line 1.
Could not pipe[/usr/bin --decompress --stdout
/var/root/.cpan/sources/authors/01mailrc.txt.gz |]: Permission
denied at /System/Library/Perl/5.8.6/CPAN.pm line 5727, line
1.
When I try to run "install XML::XPath" I get about 20 repetitions of
Subroutine AUTOLOAD redefined at
/sw/lib/perl5/5.8.6/darwin-thread-multi-2level/Compress/Zlib.pm line
84, line 2
Regarding the first error, I don't see how I can have a permissions
error when I'm running CPAN as the root user. Root has--I
checked--read, write, execute permissions in that directory
(/System/Library/etc, etc). Regarding the second error, I have no
idea what that's about. Could fink have somehow messed up my perl
installation.
In case this helps, I'm running Perl 5.8.6 under OSX 10.4 on
Macmini. I'm running all the install scripts as root.
Any help would really be appreciated. Thanks.
--John M
Re: Newbie.. how do I find method names..
On Jun 9, 2005, at 12:19 PM, Leo Lapworth wrote:
I've just started playing with CB and I followed the example docs...
But when I switch to using a NSTextView, rather than an NSTextField
it seems I have to change the method names.
I just want to change the copy in the NSTextView, but setStringValue()
does not work.
NSTextView is considerably more complex. It works with instances of
several other classes - NSTextContainer, NSLayoutManager, and
NSTextStorage among others.
To change the copy in an NSTextView, you first need to get a
reference to the NSTextStorage object it's displaying:
my $textStorage = $textView->textStorage();
NSTextStorage is a subclass of NSMutableAttributedString, so we can
use that class' setAttributedString() method to assign a new string.
But that method takes an instance of NSAttributedString as its
argument, so we need to create one first:
my $attributedString = NSAttributedString->alloc()->initWithString
("Hello");
$textStorage->setAttributedString($attributedString);
There's an overview of the text system architecture on Apple's
developer site, at:
Apple occasionally decides to move the local docs around, but if
you're using the same Xcode version I am, this link might work for you:
Conceptual/TextArchitecture/index.html>
I have tried looking through the documentation in xCode and the
web, but I end up getting confused, looking at Java and Object-C
methods etc.
So my question... how do I look up what methods should be used
in relation to a specific GUI element?
You've got the right idea - Apple's Cocoa docs.
I've posted a general guideline to help read Objective-C code here:
Ideally, it would be best to have a complete set of reference
material that's geared towards Perl. But in practice that's too much
for me to do alone. I can's simply copy-and-paste Apple's docs -
they're copyrighted. And there's far, far too much material needed
for me to write it all.
Outlets example seems to have a copy/paste bug (though I could be
wrong)..
sub saySomething : Selector(sayHello:) IBAction {
should that not be:
sub saySomething : Selector(saySomething:) IBAction {
Yep - you're right. Fixed it.
sherm--
Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net
Hire me! My resume: http://www.dot-app.org
Newbie.. how do I find method names..
Hi,
I've just started playing with CB and I followed the example docs...
But when I switch to using a NSTextView, rather than an NSTextField
it seems I have to change the method names.
I just want to change the copy in the NSTextView, but setStringValue()
does not work.
I have tried looking through the documentation in xCode and the
web, but I end up getting confused, looking at Java and Object-C
methods etc.
So my question... how do I look up what methods should be used
in relation to a specific GUI element?
Thanks
Leo
ps.
Outlets example seems to have a copy/paste bug (though I could be
wrong)..
sub saySomething : Selector(sayHello:) IBAction {
should that not be:
sub saySomething : Selector(saySomething:) IBAction {
Re: Frickin' CPAN
You might want to take a look at that URL list. Try going to each site by hand and see how long it takes to connect. Move your fastest sites to the top of the list. - Larry On Jun 9, 2005, at 11:04 AM, John Mercer wrote: urllist ftp://ftp.sunsite.utk.edu/pub/CPAN/ ftp://ftp.theshell.com/pub/CPAN/ ftp://ftp.uwsg.iu.edu/pub/perl/CPAN/ ftp://linux.cs.lewisu.edu/pub/CPAN ftp://mirror.candidhosting.com/pub/CPAN ftp://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/software/cpan/ ftp://mirror.datapipe.net/pub/CPAN/ ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/ ftp://mirror.sg.depaul.edu/pub/CPAN/ ftp://mirror.sit.wisc.edu/pub/CPAN/ ftp://mirror.xmission.com/CPAN/ ftp://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/CPAN ftp://mirrors.jtlnet.com/CPAN/ ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/pub/CPAN ftp://mirrors.phenominet.com/pub/CPAN/ ftp://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/lang/CPAN/ ftp://perl.secsup.org/pub/perl/ http://cpan.belfry.net/ http://cpan.binarycompass.org http://cpan.mirrors.hoobly.com/ http://cpan.mirrors.nks.net/ wget /sw/bin/wget
Re: Frickin' CPAN
Hi guys,
Firewall problems? Or config problems? Or both?
I've found that CPAN works when I run "sudo perl -MCPAN etc", but not
when I run as root: "macbox:/ root# perl -MCPAN". I find that very
strange, but hey, if it works as sudo, it works and that's all I need.
However, it doesn't work very well. When I run CPAN it take FOREVER
to download modules, but then installs them pretty quickly (at least
when there aren't any errors--and I often have plenty). Could my
firewall by interfering with CPAN? I don't have anything fancy: just
the OSX Tiger firewall and a Netgear router on a home-office network.
Do I need to tweak some obscure config file so that CPAN can get in
and out of the firewall.
PPM also takes forever to download, if it downloads at all.
In case it help, I've appended the sudo/root config file below.
Please let me know if anything's wrong w/ it.
Many thanks,
John Mercer
/System/Library/Perl/5.8.6/CPAN/Config.pm
build_cache20
build_dir /var/root/.cpan/build
cache_metadata 1
cpan_home /var/root/.cpan
dontload_hash
ftp/usr/bin/ftp
ftp_proxy
getcwd cwd
gpg
gzip /usr/bin
histfile /var/root/.cpan/histfile
histsize 100
http_proxy
inactivity_timeout 0
index_expire 1
inhibit_startup_message 0
keep_source_where /var/root/.cpan/sources
lynx /sw/bin
make /usr/bin/make
make_arg
make_install_arg
makepl_arg
ncftpget /usr/bin/ncftpget
no_proxy
pager /usr/bin/less
prerequisites_policy ask
scan_cache atstart
shell /bin/sh
tar/usr/bin
term_is_latin 1
unzip /usr/bin
urllist
ftp://ftp.sunsite.utk.edu/pub/CPAN/
ftp://ftp.theshell.com/pub/CPAN/
ftp://ftp.uwsg.iu.edu/pub/perl/CPAN/
ftp://linux.cs.lewisu.edu/pub/CPAN
ftp://mirror.candidhosting.com/pub/CPAN
ftp://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/software/cpan/
ftp://mirror.datapipe.net/pub/CPAN/
ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/
ftp://mirror.sg.depaul.edu/pub/CPAN/
ftp://mirror.sit.wisc.edu/pub/CPAN/
ftp://mirror.xmission.com/CPAN/
ftp://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/CPAN
ftp://mirrors.jtlnet.com/CPAN/
ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/pub/CPAN
ftp://mirrors.phenominet.com/pub/CPAN/
ftp://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/lang/CPAN/
ftp://perl.secsup.org/pub/perl/
http://cpan.belfry.net/
http://cpan.binarycompass.org
http://cpan.mirrors.hoobly.com/
http://cpan.mirrors.nks.net/
wget /sw/bin/wget
On Jun 8, 2005, at 9:56 PM, Ken Williams wrote:
Hi John,
The permissions thing is a red herring.
Look more closely at the error message. It's trying to run a
program called "/usr/bin". Look at your CPAN configuration ("o
conf" in the CPAN shell) to figure out why.
-Ken
On Jun 8, 2005, at 3:14 PM, John Mercer wrote:
Hi all,
CPAN is being a pain in the ass, and I don't know what the problem
is. Here's an error message when I run "install Bundle::XML".
Can't exec "/usr/bin": Permission denied at /System/Library/Perl/
5.8.6/darwin-thread-multi-2level/IO/File.pm line 176, line 1.
Could not pipe[/usr/bin --decompress --stdout /var/root/.cpan/
sources/authors/01mailrc.txt.gz |]: Permission denied at /System/
Library/Perl/5.8.6/CPAN.pm line 5727, line 1.
When I try to run "install XML::XPath" I get about 20 repetitions of
Subroutine AUTOLOAD redefined at /sw/lib/perl5/5.8.6/darwin-thread-
multi-2level/Compress/Zlib.pm line 84, line 2
Regarding the first error, I don't see how I can have a
permissions error when I'm running CPAN as the root user. Root
has--I checked--read, write, execute permissions in that directory
(/System/Library/etc, etc). Regarding the second error, I have no
idea what that's about. Could fink have somehow messed up my perl
installation.
In case this helps, I'm running Perl 5.8.6 under OSX 10.4 on
Macmini. I'm running all the install scripts as root.
Any help would really be appreciated. Thanks.
--John M
Re: CamelBones on Intel? Maybe not.
On Jun 9, 2005, at 4:39 AM, wren argetlahm wrote: --- Edward Moy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So what is really needed at this point is for the CamelBones community to get together and innovate. Create some killer apps with CamelBones. Get developer excited about this technology. I'll bite. Dunno if it'd count as "killer" or not but I have a F/OSS project I've been working on that's been looking for a GUI for a while. We were going to go with Python for cross-platformability, but I've been thinking about learning Cocoa for a while and have really wanted to use CB for *something*. It seems like the Fink Commander application could also have been written well in CB. It's an example of a fairly broad category of applications: Cocoa interfaces to perl modules. What with the depth & breadth of CPAN, that's seems like it would be a pretty broad category. -Ken
Re: CamelBones on Intel? Maybe not.
On Jun 9, 2005, at 7:29 AM, Charlie Garrison wrote: And are there any licensing issues that would prevent using CB in a commercial app? No. I chose the Lesser GPL over the GPL for precisely that reason - the "viral" aspect of the license applies to the framework *only*, not to your apps. sherm-- Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net Hire me! My resume: http://www.dot-app.org
Re: CamelBones on Intel? Maybe not.
On Jun 9, 2005, at 5:39 AM, wren argetlahm wrote: Dunno if it'd count as "killer" or not but I have a F/OSS project I've been working on that's been looking for a GUI for a while. We were going to go with Python for cross-platformability, but I've been thinking about learning Cocoa for a while and have really wanted to use CB for *something*. Hey Sherm, I haven't toyed with CB since the days of 10.2, anything I should know before diving in again? It probably wouldn't hurt to scan through the "getting started" docs again - there have been some minor (but important) changes in how classes are declared. You can inherit from Cocoa classes now, with all that implies - document-based apps with custom NSDocument subclasses, custom NSView subclasses, support for Cocoa Binding, etc. And, as a direct result of recent events (i.e. this thread), I've decided to make GNUStep support a high priority item for the next 1.0 beta release. Cross-platform support will be a major feature going forward - I'm hedging my bets, and CamelBones will be a way for you folks to do the same. sherm-- Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net Hire me! My resume: http://www.dot-app.org
Re: CamelBones on Intel? Maybe not.
Good evening, On 9/6/05 at 2:39 AM -0700, wren argetlahm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hey Sherm, I haven't toyed with CB since the days of >10.2, anything I should know before diving in again? And are there any licensing issues that would prevent using CB in a commercial app? Charlie -- Charlie Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PO Box 141, Windsor, NSW 2756, Australia
Re: CamelBones on Intel? Maybe not.
--- Edward Moy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So what is really needed at this > point is for the CamelBones community to get > together and innovate. > Create some killer apps with CamelBones. Get > developer excited about > this technology. I'll bite. Dunno if it'd count as "killer" or not but I have a F/OSS project I've been working on that's been looking for a GUI for a while. We were going to go with Python for cross-platformability, but I've been thinking about learning Cocoa for a while and have really wanted to use CB for *something*. Hey Sherm, I haven't toyed with CB since the days of 10.2, anything I should know before diving in again? Live well, ~wren __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
