Re: Macbook Pro Crisis

2009-07-08 Thread ben mustill-rose

I think this is going to be more of a hardware issue since the drive
is actually trying but failing to eject.
Is the computer covered under apple care?
My adventureus side wants to tell you to try ejecting it when the
optical drive is facing downwards - ie: the mbp is stood sideways
vertically. You may find that even though the disk is not fully
ejected you will be able to get enough of a grasp on it to be rather
stubbon when pulling it out.

Having said this, if the machine is still covered, its probably best
for its user to spend some qualitty time with her boyfriend untill the
machine can be scene to incase you inadvertently make the issue worse.

On 08/07/2009, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote:

 Alex,

 Try force quit and relaunch finder.

 Or, try ejecting the cd as the computer is booting.


 If that doesn't work, open terminal and type lsof -n|grep /Volumes/
 volumename.  After the grep you could also just copy the ikon of the
 drive in question from the desktop and paste it into the terminal
 window.  This will tell you what if any programms are using the disk.

 Or try this:  in terminal type hdiutil eject -force /Volumes/volumename

 And if that doesn't work: reboot into command mode.  I can't remember
 off hand how to do that but I think emediately after the start sound
 press command-option-o-f but I would look that up if I were you.  Then
 type eject cd ret reboot-mac ret.

 And if that doesn't work: throwing up hands

 On Jul 7, 2009, at 11:52 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:


 very sorry, i thought the subject was macbook pro prices... sorry
 again.
 mike

 On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:44 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:


 um, right, what are you asking? Just curious are you looking for
 pricing information for the new macbook pro's?
 On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:10 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:


 Hi,

 My Girlfriend's Macbook Pro was chugging along nicely until today.
 We
 put in a Library disk with one of those raised Barcode labels on it
 and now the disk won't come out. The MBP tries to eject it, it gets
 stuck, and goes back in. Note: It doesn't come far enough out that
 we
 can catch it before it goes back in.

 As her boyfriend, I have my hands tied at the moment seeing as how I
 can't get a tech support agent from our support centre out here
 until
 Saturday, and this is a critical problem as her Mac won't boot.

 I should add, we are both legally blind VO users.

 Thanks in advace and I appreciate any help.

 Regards,
 Alex,





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Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-08 Thread william lomas

the synthesizer technology they use is not their own anyways in the  
ipod iand the IPhone, t is that of nuance

On 8 Jul 2009, at 06:48, Justin Harford wrote:



 Alex wrote:

 What I meant is that I felt that someone made a comment of something
 that only insiders would know. It was not something that Apple made
 public.

 OK OK fair enough.  I suppose there is a marginal possibility that
 apple will defy all logic and not introduce the synthesizer technology
 that they have developed into their next version of mac os x.
 Honestly such a speculation could hardly be insider knowledge, but
 as I stated, common sense.  But you're right, it's marginally
 possible, like a 1% chance that I am wrong.

 Feel free to rub it in my face if such a peculiar happening should
 come to fruition.
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Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-08 Thread Justin Harford


Alex wrote:

  anyways in the
 ipod iand the IPhone, t is that of nuance

Umm… is this English that you are writing to me? 
  
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Re: The Plot Thickens (was re: Disappointed)

2009-07-08 Thread James Nash

It's good to know that Ubuntu can se it. Especially considering all the 
complaints that people have given regarding Ubuntu's driver problems.
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From: Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; macvoiceo...@freelists.org; 
gw-bookse...@gwmicro.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:30 AM
Subject: The Plot Thickens (was re: Disappointed)



 Hi y'all,

 Well, this gets more interesting. Apparently it really must be a
 driver issue of some sort. While I can't mount the BookSense on the
 Mac, it *does* mount on a GNU/Linux machine; specifically, I tried
 mounting it on a machine running Ubuntu 8.10. Doing so, I was able to
 see the files and folders on the SD card installed in the BookSense.
 Just a bit more trivia to add, I guess.

  


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Re: Hiding applications with a bit of a twist

2009-07-08 Thread James Nash

That's not picky that's being organized
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From: Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:04 AM
Subject: Hiding applications with a bit of a twist



 OK, it is very obvious to me, that command+H will hide applications and
 place them as running in the dock, but what happens if you don't want them
 to be in command+tab order?  In other words, Is there a 3rd party app that
 would let me keep the apps of my choice running, but rather than putting
 them in the dock as running would allow me to select from a list of
 applications.  I know vo+F1 twice will do this, but that's not quite what
 I'm talking about.  I am wanting that same effect, yes, but the addition 
 is
 I don't want them taking up places in my command tab presses.  I'll give 
 ya
 two perfect examples.

 Using Quick time through the flip4Mac app, I love! listenning to xm radio
 online.  Well, once I navigate in Safari to the player page and get the
 station up that I want to listen to, and get it playing in quick time, I
 then obviously command q on safari.  Well, then if I hit command+H on 
 quick
 time, yeah, it hides it, and gets it out of my way so I can do other 
 things
 while I listen, but If I have several windows up, I don't wanna have to 
 hear
 quick time every time I command tab around.  Maybe I am just overly picky,
 especially being I'm coming from a Windows background and am so accustom 
 to
 the system tray, but, I just like the least amount of clutter.  For
 instance, on my windows box, I never! have more than two at the ab, suh,
 loot! most windows opened at once.  This means I only have two windows to
 alt tab between.  Here's another example.

 I am a music lover.  Gotta have my good oal ITunes.  Well, I don't like
 ITunes taking up an extra command tab press.  See, in Winedows, it's cool,
 as I can tell ITunes to minimise to the system tray.  This means, 
 obviously
 then if I alt tab, ITunes doesn't get in the way.  I literally have to go
 get it from the notification area/system tray.  I know Tiger, nor Leopard
 can do this naturally that I know of, but I wonder if there is an
 application that would let me do get it out of the command tab sequence
 while still giving me the control to bring it up on a need per need basis.

 Again, call me picky but... is this just something I'm stuck with getting
 used to, and just need to get my head around, or is there maybe a work
 around?

 Chris.


  


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Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X

2009-07-08 Thread James Nash

Thanks Mike
- Original Message - 
From: Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:16 AM
Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X



 Text edit comes with the mac, and it works well, the newest version of
 pages is also very accessible.
 On Jul 7, 2009, at 2:48 PM, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi folks,

 Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any
 other
 Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each
 with
 VO?

 Thanks

 James


 


  


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Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X

2009-07-08 Thread william lomas

and james, you can always get a trial of IWork I liked it when I tried  
it, i may purchase it wen and if i decide to upgrade to snowleopard

On 8 Jul 2009, at 09:23, James  Nash wrote:


 Thanks Mike
 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:16 AM
 Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X



 Text edit comes with the mac, and it works well, the newest version  
 of
 pages is also very accessible.
 On Jul 7, 2009, at 2:48 PM, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi folks,

 Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any
 other
 Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each
 with
 VO?

 Thanks

 James








 


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Re: smart mailbox question

2009-07-08 Thread Krister Ekstrom

Hi,
Ok, call me stupid if you want, but i've never gotten the hang of  
everything smart on the Mac. When you create a smart mailbox, you  
are given a lot of criteria for what should be shown in that mailbox,  
right? If so, there shouldn't be any need for also making a rule with  
the same searching criteria to filter mails to a smart mail box that  
also has these rules, right? Or what am i missing here?
I have also tried to make smart mailboxes for everything mac related,  
but my rules aren't good enough apparently because nothing comes  
through as it should. Either nothing goes in the smart box, or too  
much unrelated goes there, so i've given up this smart thing  
alltogether, for me, it just doesn't work.
/Krister


7 jul 2009 kl. 21.29 skrev Simon Cavendish:


 Dear Eliza,

 You set rules under Mail preferences which you access  either through
 the menu bar under Mail, or by using the shortcut key command+comma.
 Then by interacting with the toolbar you can choose rules. In there,
 provided you have already created a mailbox to which you have given
 the names, you can set up the rule, like for isntance, if a mail comes
 from the address in To field, move it to the mailbox name. Hope this
 helps. With best wishes, Simon
 On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:18, Eliza Cooper wrote:


 Hi James,
  Where can I find instructions for setting up rules?
  Thanks,
  Eliza

 On Jul 7, 2009, at 2:56 PM, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi Eliza,

 I had the same issue. I got around this by just creating a normal
 mailbox
 and once I set up the rules all the messages went to the correct
 mailbox
 without any trouble. I hope this helps.

 Take care

 James
 - Original Message -
 From: Eliza Cooper eliza.l.coo...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:53 PM
 Subject: smart mailbox question



 Hi list,
 I created a smart mailbox for all of the messages in this list, but
 apparently I'm not understanding something correctly.  Once you
 create
 the mailbox and specify which messages should go there, shouldn't
 all
 future messages go there?  The are not doing so.
 Thanks,
 Eliza











 


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Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-08 Thread James Nash

We are not discriminated against. Being blind does not and should not give 
us the right to see features in advance, but yes it would be nice to see 
some demos.Perhaps if we E Mail Apple Accessibility and offer some 
suggestions perhaps this will happen.
- Original Message - 
From: Justin Harford blindst...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:52 AM
Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard



 Exactly.  I am not going to trouble myself feeling discriminated
 against over this, and particularly against the only computer/
 electronics company in the world that produces mainstream products
 which we can use.  But still, you have to admit that we aren't really
 in the same boat as the customers who can see.  And I still can't
 suppress the sympathy that I feel for people who discuss future
 features of VO or for those who post demos of snow-leopard
 accessibility.  If only the matter were as simple as the difference
 between equal treatment and a bunch of insolent blind who think they
 deserve special treatment for being blind.

 I personally am not under contract with apple to not discuss these
 things, nor have I acquired a beta copy of mac os x 10.6; my comments
 were solely educated common sense speculations that someone who has
 been with apple since the days of the Tiger would make.

 Regards
 Justin Harford
 On Jul 7, 2009, at 3:41 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:


 Well, you make some valid and well articulated points.  However, I
 personally am not ready to feel discriminated  against because they're
 not showing accessibility features.  I'm happy so long as they're
 putting that suff in.  I have to say though that I think it is a
 stretch to claim that this discussion violated any ndas.  The Ndas
 apply to paying members of Apple's dev center and have inside
 information on the inner workings of Snow Leopard.  Maybe someone in
 this thread is a member.  I don't know.  But I seriously doubt that
 Apple is too concerned about people discussing features of interest.
 They've allreay posted allot of stuff so why not this?  What you
 probably dont want to post is something about how open cl works.

 On Jul 7, 2009, at 4:41 PM, Justin Harford wrote:


 Hi all

 I just got a look at this thread.  It seems that, once again, I am
 ignorant of how we, as equal citizens with equal legal
 responsibilities should view ourselves as apple customers.  I wonder
 if someone might please educate me on what is wrong with the
 proposition that we should have some sort of audio demonstrations of
 upcoming apple accessibility developments.  Please allow me to
 explain
 myself.

  Of course the idea that we are entitled to this information as
 blind people is completely ridiculous, but I still wonder why no one
 is bothered that apple don't put out a demo of the technology for us
 to listen to.  Scott you said

 You are not entitled to know any more than your sighted
 counterpart.

 I agree.  As it is, our sighted counterparts get to see live
 demonstrations of the technologies in which they will invest their
 money.  There was a snow-leopard demo at the last WWDC.  When Leopard
 came out, there was also a WWDC demo and more demos on apple's
 website.  When the iPhone 3gs came out, apple offered a demonstration
 on their website.  When the iPod shuffle came out, apple again
 offered
 a demo on their website.  In all of these cases, perhaps with the
 exception of the shuffle and maybe the voice control on the iPhone if
 you count that as accessibility, there was no demonstration of
 VoiceOver.  Of course, the blind as such a small customer base should
 give apple no occasion to suffer itself to demonstrate VO before an
 audience of WWDC developers and customers, who couldn't care less,
 but
 is putting up a little audio demonstration on their accessibility
 page
 really too much to ask?

 It is true.  I'm not entitled to know anything more than my sighted
 counterpart, and I guess at this point, that is how things are.  The
 sighted don't know how accessibility works under snow-leopard, just
 as
 I don't know.  I know that snow-leopard offers the capability to
 watch
 movies through finder icons, just as the sighted know.  The average
 sighted joe does not care about accessibility improvements, just as I
 don't care about watching movies through icons.  Something just seems
 wrong here, though I'm having trouble putting my finger on it.

 I think that apple customers should be shown the things they care
 about.  Some people care about photos on the mac, so they show them.
 Some people care about listening to music and watching videos, so
 they
 show it.  Some people want to be productive in a business setting on
 their macs, so they show productivity.  Some people care about the
 development tools, so they show those.  In our case, we care about
 accessibility, why not show it, not because we are blind people
 looking for concessions or special treatment, but as consumers
 

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-08 Thread James Nash

Justin relax, it sounds as if you're geting upset. There's really no need. 
No-one has said that you are wrong, just that there are different 
possibilities.

Take care

James
- Original Message - 
From: Justin Harford blindst...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard




Alex wrote:

  anyways in the
 ipod iand the IPhone, t is that of nuance

Umm. is this English that you are writing to me?



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Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X

2009-07-08 Thread James Nash

Yes I have tried a deom version. I liked it. I just wonder if it is possible 
to buy each application separately. Although Keynote sounds very cool.

Take care

James
- Original Message - 
From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X



 and james, you can always get a trial of IWork I liked it when I tried
 it, i may purchase it wen and if i decide to upgrade to snowleopard

 On 8 Jul 2009, at 09:23, James  Nash wrote:


 Thanks Mike
 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:16 AM
 Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X



 Text edit comes with the mac, and it works well, the newest version
 of
 pages is also very accessible.
 On Jul 7, 2009, at 2:48 PM, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi folks,

 Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any
 other
 Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each
 with
 VO?

 Thanks

 James








 


  


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Re: smart mailbox question

2009-07-08 Thread James Nash

I have also found this. I assumed I was doing something incorrectly although 
you may not be.
- Original Message - 
From: Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: smart mailbox question



 Hi,
 Ok, call me stupid if you want, but i've never gotten the hang of
 everything smart on the Mac. When you create a smart mailbox, you
 are given a lot of criteria for what should be shown in that mailbox,
 right? If so, there shouldn't be any need for also making a rule with
 the same searching criteria to filter mails to a smart mail box that
 also has these rules, right? Or what am i missing here?
 I have also tried to make smart mailboxes for everything mac related,
 but my rules aren't good enough apparently because nothing comes
 through as it should. Either nothing goes in the smart box, or too
 much unrelated goes there, so i've given up this smart thing
 alltogether, for me, it just doesn't work.
 /Krister


 7 jul 2009 kl. 21.29 skrev Simon Cavendish:


 Dear Eliza,

 You set rules under Mail preferences which you access  either through
 the menu bar under Mail, or by using the shortcut key command+comma.
 Then by interacting with the toolbar you can choose rules. In there,
 provided you have already created a mailbox to which you have given
 the names, you can set up the rule, like for isntance, if a mail comes
 from the address in To field, move it to the mailbox name. Hope this
 helps. With best wishes, Simon
 On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:18, Eliza Cooper wrote:


 Hi James,
 Where can I find instructions for setting up rules?
 Thanks,
 Eliza

 On Jul 7, 2009, at 2:56 PM, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi Eliza,

 I had the same issue. I got around this by just creating a normal
 mailbox
 and once I set up the rules all the messages went to the correct
 mailbox
 without any trouble. I hope this helps.

 Take care

 James
 - Original Message -
 From: Eliza Cooper eliza.l.coo...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:53 PM
 Subject: smart mailbox question



 Hi list,
 I created a smart mailbox for all of the messages in this list, but
 apparently I'm not understanding something correctly.  Once you
 create
 the mailbox and specify which messages should go there, shouldn't
 all
 future messages go there?  The are not doing so.
 Thanks,
 Eliza











 


  


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Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-08 Thread william lomas

and all will be revealed in less than a month

On 8 Jul 2009, at 10:10, James  Nash wrote:


 Justin relax, it sounds as if you're geting upset. There's really no  
 need.
 No-one has said that you are wrong, just that there are different
 possibilities.

 Take care

 James
 - Original Message -
 From: Justin Harford blindst...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:33 AM
 Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard




 Alex wrote:

 anyways in the
 ipod iand the IPhone, t is that of nuance

 Umm. is this English that you are writing to me?



 


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Re: Macbook Pro Crisis

2009-07-08 Thread Alex Jurgensen

HI,

Lol. Quality time. I like that.

Unfortunately this is her main work machine :( . Neither can she  
perceed with Leo training with a stuck disk. However, If possible, I  
will book a quicker appointment. The machine is not covered by AC but  
is rather covered by an external company. This disition was made  
because the machine is outside of Apple Care time. Having said that,  
the folks at Starnix-BC where it is registered are wonderful.

Regards,
Alex,


On 8-Jul-09, at 12:21 AM, ben mustill-rose wrote:


 I think this is going to be more of a hardware issue since the drive
 is actually trying but failing to eject.
 Is the computer covered under apple care?
 My adventureus side wants to tell you to try ejecting it when the
 optical drive is facing downwards - ie: the mbp is stood sideways
 vertically. You may find that even though the disk is not fully
 ejected you will be able to get enough of a grasp on it to be rather
 stubbon when pulling it out.

 Having said this, if the machine is still covered, its probably best
 for its user to spend some qualitty time with her boyfriend untill the
 machine can be scene to incase you inadvertently make the issue worse.

 On 08/07/2009, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote:

 Alex,

 Try force quit and relaunch finder.

 Or, try ejecting the cd as the computer is booting.


 If that doesn't work, open terminal and type lsof -n|grep /Volumes/
 volumename.  After the grep you could also just copy the ikon of the
 drive in question from the desktop and paste it into the terminal
 window.  This will tell you what if any programms are using the disk.

 Or try this:  in terminal type hdiutil eject -force /Volumes/ 
 volumename

 And if that doesn't work: reboot into command mode.  I can't remember
 off hand how to do that but I think emediately after the start sound
 press command-option-o-f but I would look that up if I were you.   
 Then
 type eject cd ret reboot-mac ret.

 And if that doesn't work: throwing up hands

 On Jul 7, 2009, at 11:52 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:


 very sorry, i thought the subject was macbook pro prices... sorry
 again.
 mike

 On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:44 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:


 um, right, what are you asking? Just curious are you looking for
 pricing information for the new macbook pro's?
 On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:10 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:


 Hi,

 My Girlfriend's Macbook Pro was chugging along nicely until today.
 We
 put in a Library disk with one of those raised Barcode labels on  
 it
 and now the disk won't come out. The MBP tries to eject it, it  
 gets
 stuck, and goes back in. Note: It doesn't come far enough out that
 we
 can catch it before it goes back in.

 As her boyfriend, I have my hands tied at the moment seeing as  
 how I
 can't get a tech support agent from our support centre out here
 until
 Saturday, and this is a critical problem as her Mac won't boot.

 I should add, we are both legally blind VO users.

 Thanks in advace and I appreciate any help.

 Regards,
 Alex,





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Re: Low Vision Accessibility in Snow Leopard

2009-07-08 Thread Barry Lipscomb

Thanks Alex.  I am not speaking of changing the resolution in system  
preferences.  It came out in an article following the WWDC that demoed  
Leopard , unfortunately I am not very good at articulating what it  
said.  I think what it would do is bring added sharpness to the  
magnifier.


 Hi,

 The resolution can be changed in Displays under System Preferences in
 the Apple menu of Leo.

 At this point documented ones are to my knowlege non-existant at the
 moment. This is not to say that it is a yet undisclosed thing.

 Regards,
 Alex,


 On 7-Jul-09, at 3:37 PM, Barry Lipscomb wrote:


 I am a low vision user and I was wondering if anyone has heard if
 there will be an upgrade to the full screen magnifier.  I know in
 windows when you are using a program like Zoomtext that the
 resolution on the magnifier is much better.  It has crisper sharper
 text.  I would like to see this added to the OSX magnifier.  I  
 think a
 couple years ago they were talking about adding something they called
 resolution scaling for other reasons but stated it would be a boon
 for the visually impaired.  Does anyone know anything about this and
 will it be in Snow Leopard?  Thanks!

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Re: smart mailbox question

2009-07-08 Thread Eliza Cooper

Also, I tried just making a rule for putting everything list-related  
in a separate regular mailbox, and nothing went there, either.  Am I  
doomed to have a clogged inbox?
Eliza


On Jul 8, 2009, at 4:58 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:


 Hi,
 Ok, call me stupid if you want, but i've never gotten the hang of
 everything smart on the Mac. When you create a smart mailbox, you
 are given a lot of criteria for what should be shown in that mailbox,
 right? If so, there shouldn't be any need for also making a rule with
 the same searching criteria to filter mails to a smart mail box that
 also has these rules, right? Or what am i missing here?
 I have also tried to make smart mailboxes for everything mac related,
 but my rules aren't good enough apparently because nothing comes
 through as it should. Either nothing goes in the smart box, or too
 much unrelated goes there, so i've given up this smart thing
 alltogether, for me, it just doesn't work.
 /Krister


 7 jul 2009 kl. 21.29 skrev Simon Cavendish:


 Dear Eliza,

 You set rules under Mail preferences which you access  either through
 the menu bar under Mail, or by using the shortcut key command+comma.
 Then by interacting with the toolbar you can choose rules. In there,
 provided you have already created a mailbox to which you have given
 the names, you can set up the rule, like for isntance, if a mail  
 comes
 from the address in To field, move it to the mailbox name. Hope this
 helps. With best wishes, Simon
 On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:18, Eliza Cooper wrote:


 Hi James,
 Where can I find instructions for setting up rules?
 Thanks,
 Eliza

 On Jul 7, 2009, at 2:56 PM, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi Eliza,

 I had the same issue. I got around this by just creating a normal
 mailbox
 and once I set up the rules all the messages went to the correct
 mailbox
 without any trouble. I hope this helps.

 Take care

 James
 - Original Message -
 From: Eliza Cooper eliza.l.coo...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:53 PM
 Subject: smart mailbox question



 Hi list,
 I created a smart mailbox for all of the messages in this list,  
 but
 apparently I'm not understanding something correctly.  Once you
 create
 the mailbox and specify which messages should go there, shouldn't
 all
 future messages go there?  The are not doing so.
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Re: Macbook Pro Crisis

2009-07-08 Thread kaare dehard

In addition to the below, a mechanical solution may be required. As  
the disk is being ejected, the label is probably getting caught up in  
the drive... Grab a pair of tweazers and give it a tug as the motors  
are trying to spit out the disk. It will probably damage the media  
some, but you will be able to remove the disk:).
On 8-Jul-09, at 1:36 AM, Barry Hadder wrote:


 Alex,

 Try force quit and relaunch finder.

 Or, try ejecting the cd as the computer is booting.


 If that doesn't work, open terminal and type lsof -n|grep /Volumes/
 volumename.  After the grep you could also just copy the ikon of the
 drive in question from the desktop and paste it into the terminal
 window.  This will tell you what if any programms are using the disk.

 Or try this:  in terminal type hdiutil eject -force /Volumes/ 
 volumename

 And if that doesn't work: reboot into command mode.  I can't remember
 off hand how to do that but I think emediately after the start sound
 press command-option-o-f but I would look that up if I were you.  Then
 type eject cd ret reboot-mac ret.

 And if that doesn't work: throwing up hands

 On Jul 7, 2009, at 11:52 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:


 very sorry, i thought the subject was macbook pro prices... sorry
 again.
 mike

 On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:44 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:


 um, right, what are you asking? Just curious are you looking for
 pricing information for the new macbook pro's?
 On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:10 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:


 Hi,

 My Girlfriend's Macbook Pro was chugging along nicely until today.
 We
 put in a Library disk with one of those raised Barcode labels on it
 and now the disk won't come out. The MBP tries to eject it, it gets
 stuck, and goes back in. Note: It doesn't come far enough out that
 we
 can catch it before it goes back in.

 As her boyfriend, I have my hands tied at the moment seeing as  
 how I
 can't get a tech support agent from our support centre out here
 until
 Saturday, and this is a critical problem as her Mac won't boot.

 I should add, we are both legally blind VO users.

 Thanks in advace and I appreciate any help.

 Regards,
 Alex,





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Re: Macbook Pro Crisis

2009-07-08 Thread Alex Jurgensen

Hi,

Unfortunately damaging the media is not an option. The library will  
fine me up to $200 for this book as they must replace all disks for  
one damaged one. :(

Regards,
Alex,


On 8-Jul-09, at 6:52 AM, kaare dehard wrote:


 In addition to the below, a mechanical solution may be required. As
 the disk is being ejected, the label is probably getting caught up in
 the drive... Grab a pair of tweazers and give it a tug as the motors
 are trying to spit out the disk. It will probably damage the media
 some, but you will be able to remove the disk:).
 On 8-Jul-09, at 1:36 AM, Barry Hadder wrote:


 Alex,

 Try force quit and relaunch finder.

 Or, try ejecting the cd as the computer is booting.


 If that doesn't work, open terminal and type lsof -n|grep /Volumes/
 volumename.  After the grep you could also just copy the ikon of the
 drive in question from the desktop and paste it into the terminal
 window.  This will tell you what if any programms are using the disk.

 Or try this:  in terminal type hdiutil eject -force /Volumes/
 volumename

 And if that doesn't work: reboot into command mode.  I can't remember
 off hand how to do that but I think emediately after the start sound
 press command-option-o-f but I would look that up if I were you.   
 Then
 type eject cd ret reboot-mac ret.

 And if that doesn't work: throwing up hands

 On Jul 7, 2009, at 11:52 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:


 very sorry, i thought the subject was macbook pro prices... sorry
 again.
 mike

 On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:44 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:


 um, right, what are you asking? Just curious are you looking for
 pricing information for the new macbook pro's?
 On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:10 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:


 Hi,

 My Girlfriend's Macbook Pro was chugging along nicely until today.
 We
 put in a Library disk with one of those raised Barcode labels on  
 it
 and now the disk won't come out. The MBP tries to eject it, it  
 gets
 stuck, and goes back in. Note: It doesn't come far enough out that
 we
 can catch it before it goes back in.

 As her boyfriend, I have my hands tied at the moment seeing as
 how I
 can't get a tech support agent from our support centre out here
 until
 Saturday, and this is a critical problem as her Mac won't boot.

 I should add, we are both legally blind VO users.

 Thanks in advace and I appreciate any help.

 Regards,
 Alex,





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Re: Macbook Pro Crisis

2009-07-08 Thread Barry Hadder

So, what does the library owe you if your computer gets damaged?

On Jul 8, 2009, at 9:10 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:


 Hi,

 Unfortunately damaging the media is not an option. The library will
 fine me up to $200 for this book as they must replace all disks for
 one damaged one. :(

 Regards,
 Alex,


 On 8-Jul-09, at 6:52 AM, kaare dehard wrote:


 In addition to the below, a mechanical solution may be required. As
 the disk is being ejected, the label is probably getting caught up in
 the drive... Grab a pair of tweazers and give it a tug as the motors
 are trying to spit out the disk. It will probably damage the media
 some, but you will be able to remove the disk:).
 On 8-Jul-09, at 1:36 AM, Barry Hadder wrote:


 Alex,

 Try force quit and relaunch finder.

 Or, try ejecting the cd as the computer is booting.


 If that doesn't work, open terminal and type lsof -n|grep /Volumes/
 volumename.  After the grep you could also just copy the ikon of the
 drive in question from the desktop and paste it into the terminal
 window.  This will tell you what if any programms are using the  
 disk.

 Or try this:  in terminal type hdiutil eject -force /Volumes/
 volumename

 And if that doesn't work: reboot into command mode.  I can't  
 remember
 off hand how to do that but I think emediately after the start sound
 press command-option-o-f but I would look that up if I were you.
 Then
 type eject cd ret reboot-mac ret.

 And if that doesn't work: throwing up hands

 On Jul 7, 2009, at 11:52 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:


 very sorry, i thought the subject was macbook pro prices... sorry
 again.
 mike

 On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:44 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:


 um, right, what are you asking? Just curious are you looking for
 pricing information for the new macbook pro's?
 On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:10 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:


 Hi,

 My Girlfriend's Macbook Pro was chugging along nicely until  
 today.
 We
 put in a Library disk with one of those raised Barcode labels on
 it
 and now the disk won't come out. The MBP tries to eject it, it
 gets
 stuck, and goes back in. Note: It doesn't come far enough out  
 that
 we
 can catch it before it goes back in.

 As her boyfriend, I have my hands tied at the moment seeing as
 how I
 can't get a tech support agent from our support centre out here
 until
 Saturday, and this is a critical problem as her Mac won't boot.

 I should add, we are both legally blind VO users.

 Thanks in advace and I appreciate any help.

 Regards,
 Alex,





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Re: [GW-Booksense] Disappointed

2009-07-08 Thread Chris G

Hi,

GW Micro doesn't manufacture the hardware or software for the BookSense,
they are a distributer.

HIMS is the company that manufactures the BookSense, Braille Sense and
Voice Sense.

Just wanted to clear up any confusion.
Chris



On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:01:55 -0400
John Panarese t...@optonline.net wrote:

 
  This is disappointing, yet, I have to say I'm not surprised  
 either.  As much as the Mac is increasing in popularity, GW Micro is  
 still a Windows vendor.  I wonder if they will have the courtesy and  
 good sense to rectify the problem.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John Panarese
 
 On Jul 7, 2009, at 5:51 PM, Steven M. Sawczyn wrote:
 
 
  Wow, that is very disappointing.  With the gaining popularity of the
  Mac, you'd think GW Micro would make it at least appear as a generic
  card reader.  Glad there's a work-around, but yeah, definitely
  disappointing.
 
  Steve
 
  On Jul 7, 2009, at 3:53 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
 
 
  Well--
 
  The Mac doesn't seem to recognize the BookSense.
 
  This would appear to be an issue with the card reader or something in
  the BookSense. Fortunately, I have an external card reader, and the
  Mac recognizes the SD card when I put the card in the reader instead
  of the BookSense. So, it isn't a card format issue (i.e. it really
  does use fat32 and not NTFS).
 
  While this isn't a show stopper, it is slightly disappointing.
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 

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Re: Macbook Pro Crisis

2009-07-08 Thread Alex Jurgensen

Hi,

We are going to figure that out if need be. I don't know if I have  
much of a case for that one.

Regards,
Alex,


On 8-Jul-09, at 8:01 AM, Barry Hadder wrote:


 So, what does the library owe you if your computer gets damaged?

 On Jul 8, 2009, at 9:10 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:


 Hi,

 Unfortunately damaging the media is not an option. The library will
 fine me up to $200 for this book as they must replace all disks for
 one damaged one. :(

 Regards,
 Alex,


 On 8-Jul-09, at 6:52 AM, kaare dehard wrote:


 In addition to the below, a mechanical solution may be required. As
 the disk is being ejected, the label is probably getting caught up  
 in
 the drive... Grab a pair of tweazers and give it a tug as the motors
 are trying to spit out the disk. It will probably damage the media
 some, but you will be able to remove the disk:).
 On 8-Jul-09, at 1:36 AM, Barry Hadder wrote:


 Alex,

 Try force quit and relaunch finder.

 Or, try ejecting the cd as the computer is booting.


 If that doesn't work, open terminal and type lsof -n|grep /Volumes/
 volumename.  After the grep you could also just copy the ikon of  
 the
 drive in question from the desktop and paste it into the terminal
 window.  This will tell you what if any programms are using the
 disk.

 Or try this:  in terminal type hdiutil eject -force /Volumes/
 volumename

 And if that doesn't work: reboot into command mode.  I can't
 remember
 off hand how to do that but I think emediately after the start  
 sound
 press command-option-o-f but I would look that up if I were you.
 Then
 type eject cd ret reboot-mac ret.

 And if that doesn't work: throwing up hands

 On Jul 7, 2009, at 11:52 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:


 very sorry, i thought the subject was macbook pro prices...  
 sorry
 again.
 mike

 On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:44 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:


 um, right, what are you asking? Just curious are you looking for
 pricing information for the new macbook pro's?
 On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:10 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:


 Hi,

 My Girlfriend's Macbook Pro was chugging along nicely until
 today.
 We
 put in a Library disk with one of those raised Barcode labels on
 it
 and now the disk won't come out. The MBP tries to eject it, it
 gets
 stuck, and goes back in. Note: It doesn't come far enough out
 that
 we
 can catch it before it goes back in.

 As her boyfriend, I have my hands tied at the moment seeing as
 how I
 can't get a tech support agent from our support centre out here
 until
 Saturday, and this is a critical problem as her Mac won't boot.

 I should add, we are both legally blind VO users.

 Thanks in advace and I appreciate any help.

 Regards,
 Alex,





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Re: [GW-Booksense] Disappointed

2009-07-08 Thread Chris G

it does as a Braille display.

I have not tried it as a card reader though.



On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 23:12:57 +0100
James  Nash james.austin1...@googlemail.com wrote:

 
 Doesn't the BrailleSense work with Mac though?
 - Original Message - 
 From: John Panarese t...@optonline.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] Disappointed
 
 
 
  This is disappointing, yet, I have to say I'm not surprised
  either.  As much as the Mac is increasing in popularity, GW Micro is
  still a Windows vendor.  I wonder if they will have the courtesy and
  good sense to rectify the problem.
 
 
  Take Care
 
  John Panarese
 
  On Jul 7, 2009, at 5:51 PM, Steven M. Sawczyn wrote:
 
 
  Wow, that is very disappointing.  With the gaining popularity of the
  Mac, you'd think GW Micro would make it at least appear as a generic
  card reader.  Glad there's a work-around, but yeah, definitely
  disappointing.
 
  Steve
 
  On Jul 7, 2009, at 3:53 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
 
 
  Well--
 
  The Mac doesn't seem to recognize the BookSense.
 
  This would appear to be an issue with the card reader or something in
  the BookSense. Fortunately, I have an external card reader, and the
  Mac recognizes the SD card when I put the card in the reader instead
  of the BookSense. So, it isn't a card format issue (i.e. it really
  does use fat32 and not NTFS).
 
  While this isn't a show stopper, it is slightly disappointing.
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
   
 
 
 

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Re: Macbook Pro Crisis

2009-07-08 Thread ben mustill-rose

At the end of the day, somethings probably going to end up broken at
the end of it, even if it gets serviced by a company. $200 is much
cheaper than any mbp, so i'd just forget about preserving the disk -
although I wouldn't ever pay them the $200.

On 08/07/2009, Alex Jurgensen asquare...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 We are going to figure that out if need be. I don't know if I have
 much of a case for that one.

 Regards,
 Alex,


 On 8-Jul-09, at 8:01 AM, Barry Hadder wrote:


 So, what does the library owe you if your computer gets damaged?

 On Jul 8, 2009, at 9:10 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:


 Hi,

 Unfortunately damaging the media is not an option. The library will
 fine me up to $200 for this book as they must replace all disks for
 one damaged one. :(

 Regards,
 Alex,


 On 8-Jul-09, at 6:52 AM, kaare dehard wrote:


 In addition to the below, a mechanical solution may be required. As
 the disk is being ejected, the label is probably getting caught up
 in
 the drive... Grab a pair of tweazers and give it a tug as the motors
 are trying to spit out the disk. It will probably damage the media
 some, but you will be able to remove the disk:).
 On 8-Jul-09, at 1:36 AM, Barry Hadder wrote:


 Alex,

 Try force quit and relaunch finder.

 Or, try ejecting the cd as the computer is booting.


 If that doesn't work, open terminal and type lsof -n|grep /Volumes/
 volumename.  After the grep you could also just copy the ikon of
 the
 drive in question from the desktop and paste it into the terminal
 window.  This will tell you what if any programms are using the
 disk.

 Or try this:  in terminal type hdiutil eject -force /Volumes/
 volumename

 And if that doesn't work: reboot into command mode.  I can't
 remember
 off hand how to do that but I think emediately after the start
 sound
 press command-option-o-f but I would look that up if I were you.
 Then
 type eject cd ret reboot-mac ret.

 And if that doesn't work: throwing up hands

 On Jul 7, 2009, at 11:52 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:


 very sorry, i thought the subject was macbook pro prices...
 sorry
 again.
 mike

 On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:44 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:


 um, right, what are you asking? Just curious are you looking for
 pricing information for the new macbook pro's?
 On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:10 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:


 Hi,

 My Girlfriend's Macbook Pro was chugging along nicely until
 today.
 We
 put in a Library disk with one of those raised Barcode labels on
 it
 and now the disk won't come out. The MBP tries to eject it, it
 gets
 stuck, and goes back in. Note: It doesn't come far enough out
 that
 we
 can catch it before it goes back in.

 As her boyfriend, I have my hands tied at the moment seeing as
 how I
 can't get a tech support agent from our support centre out here
 until
 Saturday, and this is a critical problem as her Mac won't boot.

 I should add, we are both legally blind VO users.

 Thanks in advace and I appreciate any help.

 Regards,
 Alex,





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Re: SPEECH PROGRAM FOR MAC?

2009-07-08 Thread Darcy Burnard

I think you can accomplish what you want with the say command.  Open  
up the terminal, type say, followed by a space, and then the phrase  
you want spoken.  Be sure to put your phrase in quotes.
Darcy

On 7-Jul-09, at 11:49 PM, Jenny Kennedy wrote:


 Well? Um maybe you want to make a quick recording like a voicemail
 answer message or some other quick thing? Or just to fool around with?
 Or I don't know. Just cuz. LOL If they can make an i fart app for the
 iPhone that farts they can make anything. LOL
 Best wishes.
 Jenny

 On 7/7/09, gene gene5...@austin.rr.com wrote:

 Hi Arthor:  Why do that when you have something called voice over  
 and I
 think you turn it on with command f5 or hold down the fn key and do  
 command
 f5 if you have a laptop/notebook.
 Gene
 - Original Message -
 From: Arthur Pirika a...@andrelouis.com
 To: MACvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:29 PM
 Subject: SPEECH PROGRAM FOR MAC?



 HI, ALL. i CAME ACROSS A PROGRAM ON WINDOWS CALLED J TALK, THAT  
 SIMPLY
 ECHOED LINES OF TEXT TO A SAPI SYNTH. i GUESS A PROGRAM LIKE THIS  
 WOULD BE
 EASY TO WRITE ON THE MAC? YOU WOULD JUST HAVE A TEXT BOX WHERE YOU  
 TYPE A
 MESSAGE TO BE SPOKEN, AND MAYBE SOME BUTTONS WITH PRE-DEFINED  
 PHRASES SUCH
 AS YES, NO, THANK YOU, ETC.

 THANKS,
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Re: [GW-Booksense] Disappointed

2009-07-08 Thread John Panarese

 Yes, as they do with the Braille Sense and Voice Sense.


Take Care

John Panarese

On Jul 8, 2009, at 11:13 AM, Chris G wrote:


 Hi,

 GW Micro doesn't manufacture the hardware or software for the  
 BookSense,
 they are a distributer.

 HIMS is the company that manufactures the BookSense, Braille Sense and
 Voice Sense.

 Just wanted to clear up any confusion.
 Chris



 On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:01:55 -0400
 John Panarese t...@optonline.net wrote:


 This is disappointing, yet, I have to say I'm not surprised
 either.  As much as the Mac is increasing in popularity, GW Micro is
 still a Windows vendor.  I wonder if they will have the courtesy and
 good sense to rectify the problem.


 Take Care

 John Panarese

 On Jul 7, 2009, at 5:51 PM, Steven M. Sawczyn wrote:


 Wow, that is very disappointing.  With the gaining popularity of the
 Mac, you'd think GW Micro would make it at least appear as a generic
 card reader.  Glad there's a work-around, but yeah, definitely
 disappointing.

 Steve

 On Jul 7, 2009, at 3:53 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:


 Well--

 The Mac doesn't seem to recognize the BookSense.

 This would appear to be an issue with the card reader or something  
 in
 the BookSense. Fortunately, I have an external card reader, and the
 Mac recognizes the SD card when I put the card in the reader instead
 of the BookSense. So, it isn't a card format issue (i.e. it really
 does use fat32 and not NTFS).

 While this isn't a show stopper, it is slightly disappointing.










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Re: Macbook Pro Crisis

2009-07-08 Thread Tim Kilburn
 Hi Alex,

You said:
 We  put in a Library disk with one of those raised Barcode labels on  
 it
 and now the disk won't come out. The MBP tries to eject it, it gets
 stuck, and goes back in. Note: It doesn't come far enough out that we
 can catch it before it goes back in.


TK:  Try gravity.  Put the MBP standing up so that the drive opening  
is facing down then attempt the eject once again.  Maybe even lean it  
slightly upside-downish so that it forces the CD to be more easily  
brought up/down to assist the mechanism in its release.  You may even  
get it enough in this situation that you could grab it with your  
fingers.  Beyond that, you're going to need physical intervention.

HTH.

Later...
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Re: Firefox and Flash

2009-07-08 Thread Chris Blouch
Well, if you install SIMBL first and then drag and drop files to the 
right spot. Apple shouldn't require you finding a 3rd part add-on to do 
plugins. FF has the nice single click installer model and a good plugin 
manager with auto updates etc. Sure I can manually hack around on Safari 
and put a plugin in there, but I'm not sure if I would call that 
supporting plugins. Or are you saying there is some native plugin 
support for Safari? If there is, can you link to an example?

CB

Alex Jurgensen wrote:
 Hi,

 They do have plugins.

 Regards,
 Alex,


 On 7-Jul-09, at 1:43 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

 Yes, for some reason Safari doesn't appear to have a plugin 
 architecture or at least I've not run across any plugins for it. I 
 guess plugins lean toward one side of the capability complexity trade 
 off. You can add lots of neat new stuff but you might blow up your 
 browser. Probably for 99% of the surfers out there they don't really 
 care about plugins but web developers live by them. Especially ones 
 like Firebug or the accessibility toolbar. If all I want to do is 
 'use' the web then Safari should be the fastest way to do that. Maybe 
 because they don't support plugins their code could be cleaner?

 CB

 James  Nash wrote:
 Hi Chris,
  
 The only downside to using Safari is that it seems that you cannot  
 install Firefox plugins due to the open source nature  of FF. 
 However, perhaps this has changed in the past year.

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 *From:* Chris Blouch mailto:cblo...@aol.com
 *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, July 07, 2009 8:22 PM
 *Subject:* Re: Firefox and Flash

 Firefox 3.5 came out last week but I was disappointed to find
 accessibility has not improved. That is, other than the window
 title and menus (stuff generated by the OS) it was entirely
 inaccessible. I was hoping there would at least be the first
 glimmers of VO support. That said, Safari still trounces FF (and
 all other popular browsers) in Javascript performance.

 CB

 James  Nash wrote:
 Not from waht i've read and heard.  Shame but hopefully it will be by 
 the 
 end of this year.
 - Original Message - 
 From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 5:54 PM
 Subject: Re: Firefox and Flash


   
 but the browser itself is not yet accessible to us, right?

 On 7 Jul 2009, at 17:27, James  Nash wrote:

 
 I believe that the one for Firefox makes the Flash content into a
 buton
 which can be pressed. Not sure about the Safari one though.
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 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 5:13 PM
 Subject: Re: Firefox and Flash


   
 yeah but is there one which enables access to it? smile

 On 7 Jul 2009, at 14:50, Alex Jurgensen wrote:

 
 Hi,

 There is a plugin for Safari that disables Flash.

 Regards,
 Alex,


 On 7-Jul-09, at 1:35 AM, James  Nash wrote:

   
 Hi Will,

 Once Fire Fox becomes accessible with VO you'll find that there
 is a
 plugin
 which helps blind users cope with the increasing prevelance of
 Flash
 on  the
 web.

 Take care

 James


 
   
 
   
 
   








 

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Re: Macbook Pro Crisis

2009-07-08 Thread Scott Howell

Try grabbing the CD as it is ejected with a pair of tweezers.  
SOmetimes you can even angle the machine, which sometimes helps.
Good luck, I think with a little patients, you can snag and extract it.
On Jul 8, 2009, at 3:21 AM, ben mustill-rose wrote:


 I think this is going to be more of a hardware issue since the drive
 is actually trying but failing to eject.
 Is the computer covered under apple care?
 My adventureus side wants to tell you to try ejecting it when the
 optical drive is facing downwards - ie: the mbp is stood sideways
 vertically. You may find that even though the disk is not fully
 ejected you will be able to get enough of a grasp on it to be rather
 stubbon when pulling it out.

 Having said this, if the machine is still covered, its probably best
 for its user to spend some qualitty time with her boyfriend untill the
 machine can be scene to incase you inadvertently make the issue worse.

 On 08/07/2009, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote:

 Alex,

 Try force quit and relaunch finder.

 Or, try ejecting the cd as the computer is booting.


 If that doesn't work, open terminal and type lsof -n|grep /Volumes/
 volumename.  After the grep you could also just copy the ikon of the
 drive in question from the desktop and paste it into the terminal
 window.  This will tell you what if any programms are using the disk.

 Or try this:  in terminal type hdiutil eject -force /Volumes/ 
 volumename

 And if that doesn't work: reboot into command mode.  I can't remember
 off hand how to do that but I think emediately after the start sound
 press command-option-o-f but I would look that up if I were you.   
 Then
 type eject cd ret reboot-mac ret.

 And if that doesn't work: throwing up hands

 On Jul 7, 2009, at 11:52 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:


 very sorry, i thought the subject was macbook pro prices... sorry
 again.
 mike

 On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:44 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:


 um, right, what are you asking? Just curious are you looking for
 pricing information for the new macbook pro's?
 On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:10 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:


 Hi,

 My Girlfriend's Macbook Pro was chugging along nicely until today.
 We
 put in a Library disk with one of those raised Barcode labels on  
 it
 and now the disk won't come out. The MBP tries to eject it, it  
 gets
 stuck, and goes back in. Note: It doesn't come far enough out that
 we
 can catch it before it goes back in.

 As her boyfriend, I have my hands tied at the moment seeing as  
 how I
 can't get a tech support agent from our support centre out here
 until
 Saturday, and this is a critical problem as her Mac won't boot.

 I should add, we are both legally blind VO users.

 Thanks in advace and I appreciate any help.

 Regards,
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Working with MobileMe web mail and setting up aliases [was Re: Setting aliases in mobileme]

2009-07-08 Thread Esther

Hello Simon,

Simon Cavendish wrote:


 Has anyone successfully set aliases in MobileMe with VO? I tried many
 times yesterday but failed. Any tips?


I have set up mail aliases in MobileMe, although I have to say that it  
was a lot easier to do in the previous incarnation as dot Mac.  You'll  
need to work with the web interface to MobileMe, which is where the  
current accessibility issues are.  I've found it much easier if I set  
my mouse cursor to track my VoiceOver cursor for the navigation  
options under VoiceOver utility, though I'm not sure it's necessary  
now for setting up aliases.  In the past there were some instances  
where I could not select with VO-Space, but had to click with VO-Shift- 
Space, in order to choose options.  If I didn't have cursor tracking  
turned on, I couldn't reliably make selections.  Since I've generally  
found that the accessible performance of the MobileMe web interface is  
better, or at least equally good when using the Webkit nightly builds  
instead of Safari, I'll describe the procedure of setting up mail  
aliases for MobileMe using the latest Webkit nightly build to log into  
your MobileMe web page and using DOM navigation for web navigation  
preferences.  Another general comment:  The web format of MobileMe  
appears to substitute the Control key for the Command key in normal  
Mac shortcut key sequences and preferences.  By that, I mean that if  
you have selected Mail from the MobileMe web options, you can reply  
to messages you read with Control-R instead of Command-R, compose new  
mail with Control-N instead of Command-N, forward messages with Shift- 
Control-F instead of Shift-Command-F, etc.  And the shortcut to bring  
up preferences for the MobileMe web form of mail is Control-Comma  
instead of Command-Comma.  This helps a lot if you want to use the  
MobileMe web pages to read and respond to your mail.  The other  
general comment is that when navigating to preferences use item  
chooser menu.  Somehow, the separate windows (for preferences and for  
the mail messages area) don't appear to be well separated under  
MobileMe's web site, and contents appear jumbled together.  So in  
order to move to the various preference panes, you won't be able to  
use window chooser menu to navigate; you're going to have to use item  
chooser menu to navigate to the pane selections, including the one for  
setting aliases.  I found I couldn't reliably activate the Add new  
alias link unless I had cursor tracking on.

1. Log in with your user name and password at MobileMe's web page at: 
http://www.me.com
(There is a setting under your local machine's mail accounts  
preferences (brought up with Command-Comma) where, if you select  
MobileMe as the account, there will be an Edit E-mail aliases button  
on the Account Information tab, but this only brings up he MobileMe  
web page  set to mail.  I find it much easier to ignore this and  
simply log into the MobileMe web page myself, then choose the mail  
and bring up mail preferences for the web page with Control-Comma.)   
For example, if your MobileMe email is address is  
simoncavend...@me.com you would type the part before the AT sign  
into the user name text edit field (e.g.,simoncavendish), then tab,  
then type in your MobileMe password.

2. After you've logged in, interact with the HTML area.  You're  
probably in your Mail utility, but in general, if you VO-Right arrow  
after interacting, you'll hear the different MobileMe selection option  
links announced: Mail, Contacts, Calendar, Gallery, iDisk,  
and Account Settings.  Press (VO-Space) on your selected link (in  
this case, use VO-Space on the first link, which is mail) to select  
this option.  As I said, I think this may default to Mail if there  
were no previous selections, and you can VO-Right arrow to the mailbox  
selections and then to the messages table.

3. Press Control-Comma to bring up your mail preferences.  I'll quote  
from Take Control of MobileMe for the description of preferences:
begin quote
Configure MobileMe Mail Preferences
When you choose   Preferences, MobileMe presents five sets
of preferences: General, Composing, Viewing, Aliases, and Other.
Click one of those icons to display a view containing that category.
When you’re finished modifying preferences (in one or more views),
click the Save button at the bottom; to discard changes and return
to your previous location, click Cancel.
end quote

4. Use item chooser menu (VO-I) and start typing your selection, e.g.  
Aliases, then carriage return or VO-Space to choose the item chooser  
menu option and be directed to the icon.  VO-Space to activate this  
menu option.

5. Use item chooser menu again, and type Alias. Arrow down to the  
entry for Create or delete an Alias and either press return or VO- 
Space to select it.

6. VO-Right arrow from Create or delete an Alias.  If you have  
aliases you'll hear the following columns annouced: Active, Alias,  
Name 

Crossposted. My first look at the iPhone 3gs. Thoughts and obsurvations.

2009-07-08 Thread Kevin Reeves

I just got back from the Green Hills Apple Store in 
Nashville Tn.  
My intention was to go and look at the iPhone, and probably walk out  
with one if I liked what I saw. However, due to the lengthy process of  
making a purchase, the apple store stopped selling iPhones about an  
hour and a half before they closed. I showed up 5 minutes after this  
cutoff time, but was encouraged to look at the display model as long  
as I liked until close. Upon enquiring about having a sales person  
turn on Voiceover, they called on another rep who had more experience  
with Vo. Turns out, he  has some form of visual impairment, which  
causes him to have to use the zoom feature. He knew right where vo  
was, and turned it on for me. Now, the journey begins.

My immediate observation was that of many other people. Vo is too  
quiet, even with the volume cranked. In a store with a great deal of  
background noise, I found vo somewhat hard to hear. Should have  
followed my gut instinct and brought a headset along with me.

My first 10 minutes with the phone was met with some uncertainty. I  
was successfully able to explore the phone and open several apps.  
However, I found the sensitivity of the touch screen a bit strange.  
While dragging my finger along the icons, some would open at random.  
At first, I found myself quite lost inside of the apps I was opening.  
However, I soon found a consistent pattern to how these apps are laid  
out. Once I realized this, I was better able to navigate around  
several apps. I was soon successfully able to dial my own phone  
number, making my cell phone ring in my pocket. Then, using my cell  
phone, I was able to call the display model, answering and ending said  
call. In the iPod app, I was able to choose a playlist and start it  
playing. I was able to then pause, advance to next track, etc. I even  
found myself able to locate the transport button I wanted without  
thinking. I guess that's where muscle memory really starts to come  
into play. I was not, however, able to bend my head around how to drag  
a slider, such as the  icon that allows you to advance through a song.  
I think there was a tutor message, which would have given me those  
instructions, but I accidentally interrupted it, and was unable to get  
it to tell me again.
My cursory glance of mail yielded few results. I saw the messages, was  
able to open one and sort of read it. However, I was not fully able to  
bend my head around it's layout. I couldn't find the compose button,  
and I didn't understand the relationships between the message and the  
mailboxes. I would assume that the mailbox list would be on the left,  
and the messages on the right. I thought that's how it would look, but  
I'm not sure.
Safari was a bit interesting as well. I didn't spend but a few minutes  
looking at it, and was a tad confused because I saw part of a web  
page, along with bookmarks. I wanted to try and enter in a website to  
not only look at something familiar, and have an excuse to type. I was  
not able to find the button to enter a website, however, I did find  
the Google button and began entering in info into the search box. I  
tried to type some search terms, but kept making tons of errors.  
However, I could understand the concept of typing, and could easily  
see that more time taken to practicing would yield much better results.


Final thoughts.
In short, I get it. Voiceover is implemented in such a way that there  
are few concepts to understand. Once these concepts are understood and  
applied to all apps, your only learning curve is figuring out where  
things are on the screen in any given app, and just the general  
operation of the phone itself, which is mostly built on logic. I feel  
like a week of working with the phone  would get me pretty much up to  
speed. It wouldn't be that much of a learning curve to stunt my  
productivity. My only concern is the fact that I can definitely dial  
faster on my nokia n82, and easily locate a contact, using quick  
letter navigation.  I know that the dial pad will take some time on  
the iPhone. It's just one of those things that's going through my mind  
as I'm making this decision. The store opens at 10 AM tomorrow. I  
could easily go in and get one. Am I ready? Not sure. Should I wait  
till september for the possibility of an iPod touch? Again. Not sure.  
However, I don't really like the idea of having 2 devices on my  
person, when an iPhone would do the trick for everything. Hm. What  
a quandary. I'll keep you all posted.

Reeves

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