Supported apps on Snow Leopard
Hello folks Check out this one to see if your apps works under Snow Leopard: http://snowleopard.wikidot.com/ David --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: program to split a 6 gig dmg in to 2 dvds?
how do I boot to a external hard drive? also what is the utility called? - Original Message - From: Chris Blouch To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:55 AM Subject: Re: program to split a 6 gig dmg in to 2 dvds? That doesn't break it into two pieces. A single external volume of sufficient size could hold your 6GB image. Disk utility can clone your DMG to another device (USB thumb drive, hard drive or whatever). You just can't use a DMG that's been cut into two separate volumes. CB ben mustill-rose wrote: Would something like http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1233627 be possible? On 26/08/2009, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: If this is an installer, I don't think you can split it. DMG files get mounted up as disk drives and so the installer can and will seek for files all over the virtual disk. There is no requirement that they pull in all the files from one and then move to the rest. There are lots of ways to split a file in pieces, but you'll have to combine them together before you can use it. If they are just data files then there is no need for the DMG. Beyond that you would need to have intimate knowledge of which files are needed when and make a custom installer, probably beyond the scope of work you wanted to tackle. CB hank smith wrote: hello I have a 6 gig dmg this is a bootable disk need to split this in to 2 dvds have it ask me to hit enter when second disk is inserted what program will do this? Hank --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Boxee?
what does this thing do? - Original Message - From: Larry Wanger To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:53 PM Subject: Boxee? Is anyone successfully able to use VO with Boxee? I'm considering downloading and investigating it but thought I'd ask. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: has anyone tried neooffice with vo?
hanksmi...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Ben King To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:23 PM Subject: Re: has anyone tried neooffice with vo? Dear Hank, Your name is ringing a bell as well. Please give me your email and I will contact you. Have a wonderful day. Blessings, Ben King On Aug 27, 2009, at 4:21 PM, hank smith wrote: attn ben can you contact me off list? your name is ringing a bell Hank - Original Message - From: Ben King To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:32 AM Subject: Re: has anyone tried neooffice with vo? Dear Anouk, Welcome to Apple Land. On the previous podcast of the Mac Review Cast, they spoke about Neooffice. It sounds interesting. I do not know if it is accessible with Voiceover. Good Luck. Have a wonderful day. Blessings, Ben King On Aug 26, 2009, at 3:17 AM, a radix wrote: Hello, I am reading through a swithc-to-the-mac kind of site and they recommend neooffice for office applications. I had never heard of this package before and I wondered if anyone has used it and if it is accessible? Greetings, Anouk, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Fw: The Orbitcast Daily Update
it was the sky doc that peaked my interest will go read the dish colom will try to call this weekened damn I need to get my atnt back online this sucks royal dick or as les would say sucks puss filled donkey dick. - Original Message - From: Matthew Elliff gowr...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:14 PM Subject: Re: Fw: The Orbitcast Daily Update i get this in email and twitter. don't recall anything inteeresting besides new radios that i'm not buying? what peaked your intrest? lol hasn't been any new programming announcements? oh the new sky doc? before you get too excited read the satellite dish column at http://www.multichannel.com read that and i wasn't so excited anymore lol. On 8/27/09, hank smith hanksmi...@gmail.com wrote: Orbitcast - Original Message - From: Orbitcast To: hanksmi...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:04 PM Subject: The Orbitcast Daily Update The Orbitcast Daily Update Pics: New XM SkyDock satellite radio controller for iPhone Posted: 26 Aug 2009 11:07 AM PDT If you are following me on Twitter you've seen these photos already, but for everyone else - here's upclose and personal pics of the upcoming XM SkyDock satellite radio controller for your iPhone/iPod Touch. I'll have a more detailed description shortly, but the quick take is this: a.. The SkyDock is actually a satellite radio with all the guts of an XM unit built in - but the interface will be controlled by the iPhone b.. A new XM SkyDock iPhone App will be released with the doc - this is NOT the same as the existing Sirius XM iPhone App c.. It's an XM, so you can listen to Howard Stern through the Best of Sirius add on package d.. Price will MSRP at $119.99, and it'll be available this fall I really think Sirius XM Radio Inc. hit the ball right out of the park with this one. It's been a long time since we've seen a device worth getting excited about, and the XM SkyDock looks like a winner. Some pics... You are subscribed to email updates from Orbitcast To stop receiving these emails, you may unsubscribe now. Email delivery powered by Google Google Inc., 20 West Kinzie, Chicago IL USA 60610 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: clean install or upgrade?
Cool, I'm planning to do a clean install as well. Looking forward to that podcast Mike. On Aug 28, 2009, at 12:55 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: I would reccomend that you do a clean install, it may take a bit more time to reinstall everything, but it's usually more reliable, certainly that's what I'm going to do, and I plan on recording mac pod cast number 10, dedicated to the install of snow leopard, so stay tuned for that. On Aug 27, 2009, at 9:17 AM, a radix wrote: Hello, i am ordering sl via the phone now. I wonder, is an upgrade (so not a totally clean install) recommended? I know it is a VERY BAD IDEA on a iwndows machine but i wonder if it is ok on a mac? I would actually like it if my current settings could be used. Greetings, Anouk --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: clean install or upgrade?
you go to the utilities menu in the installer i think chose disc utility then erase and install. I will watch feedback over next couple months then upgrade but at present what I have is working On 28 Aug 2009, at 06:54, Jessi and Goldina wrote: I plan to do a clean install also and plan to record it too. I'm not sure if I'll spread it around, I guess it depends on how well I feel it goes, lol. this is my first time ever installing an OS on any platform though, so I thought it should be recorded haha. can someone explain the steps for doing a clean install? I'm sure it's been discussed to death but I've been away at my cabin and had about 2000 messages in my inbox so didn't pay much attention as I rapidly deleted, lol. I assume a clean install means deleting leopard and all other data? which would of course mean backing up first...I can't use time machine cuz it won't work with my external drive without me deleting everything off it and I'm so not doing that, so I plan to just copy and paste all my data and stuff over. I guess I'll lose my emails, but maybe there's some way other than time machine of archiving them before I do this? and now I'll stop rambling, I'm sure I'm not making much sense. it's time for bed and book for me. but I just wanna make sure I have all the steps in place for when the big moment comes!!! I'm pretty excited about it!! Jessi and Goldina On 27-Aug-09, at 9:55 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: I would reccomend that you do a clean install, it may take a bit more time to reinstall everything, but it's usually more reliable, certainly that's what I'm going to do, and I plan on recording mac pod cast number 10, dedicated to the install of snow leopard, so stay tuned for that. On Aug 27, 2009, at 9:17 AM, a radix wrote: Hello, i am ordering sl via the phone now. I wonder, is an upgrade (so not a totally clean install) recommended? I know it is a VERY BAD IDEA on a iwndows machine but i wonder if it is ok on a mac? I would actually like it if my current settings could be used. Greetings, Anouk --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
just ordered sl over the phone
Hello, I had actually called apple yesterday but it took a lng time so i gave up. I tried it again this morning and it took very long too but i persisted and got through eventually. I have a bit of trouble with the apple store website and since it is possible to order stuff over the phone i prefer to do that. According to the woman on the phone however, they cant sell you the upgrade for 10 dollar (euro in my case) over the phone and you have to order it online. I told her that i was blind and having trouble with the website and that no one was nearby to help me (after waiting 30 minutes on the phone i wanted to get it over and done with) she let me order the 29 dollar version and says the rest of the money will be returned to me. How cool is that! She also asked me how i used the computer and i told her all about voiceover. Greetings, Anouk --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Selecting between multiple cities on the IPhone?
Hi Vic. you have to use the top of your finger pads like a pianist. Bunch your index, middle and ring fingers on the right hand together and swipe at a medium speed, exerting fairly little pressure (just enough to depress strings on a guitar when placing them on the frets). Swipe to the right to go down to page 1. It's not always instantly responsive, so you might have to give it a few tries? Cheers Thuy On 28/08/2009, Victor Tsaran vtsa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Thuy, Perhaps there is something wrong with my gestures but i would always end up with showing city 2 of 2, in other words, it would only let me display the last city. On 8/26/2009 6:10 AM, Thuy wrote: Hey Vic. You need to do a three finger swipe left or right to go through the pages that display each city. Hope this helps? Thuy On 26/08/2009, Victor Tsaranvtsa...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I am sorry for asking this silly question, but I can't figure out how to switch between multiple cities in the weather widget on the IPhone. I've added several of them but can only access the last one. I've tried all the gestures I could think of, but nothing works. Thanks for any advice. Vic --- I tweet about music and accessibility at http://www.twitter.com/vick08 or check my site at http://www.victortsaran.com --- -- --- I tweet about music and accessibility at http://www.twitter.com/vick08 or check my site at http://www.victortsaran.com --- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: my macbook pro is here, problems with internet
Hello, wireless internet now works, i have the linksys wrt160 which comes with setup software that works on the mac. You can also of course use the webinterface. Setting up wpa2 protection was a breeze. Greetings, Anouk, - Original Message - From: Chris Blouch To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:59 PM Subject: Re: my macbook pro is here, problems with internet I got it a few years ago so I don't recall off the top of my head. It was just whatever BestBuy had for a reasonable price at the time. Previously I had another router and while I was away on vacation a nest of ants decided to make their home in it, eggs and all. I just put the whole thing in the trash and bought the Linksys. CB Chris G wrote: Hi, what Linksys do you have, considering the 610. Its the N router. On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:44:50 -0400 Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: I've been pretty happy with my linksys router. Pretty much works like an outlet strip for internet connections plus adds wireless. It (or my cable modem) was a bit sensitive to power burps so about once a month I'd have to trek down to the basement and power cycle it, but then I installed a UPS and can't recall the last time I had to restart it. CB Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: Chris is right here. In the US, these boxes have a battery, so pulling the plug and replugging it will not work. You need to find the reset button, on the Motorola boxes I have used you need a unfolded paper clip to reset the box. Your cable vendor should also be able to do this remotely. Your best bet is really to get a firewall router that supports NAT. Otherwise you are subjecting your PC software to too much open visability. Apple airport will work, but so will Linksys and other inexpensive home routers. Jonathan On Aug 26, 2009, at 3:39 PM, a radix wrote: I have only a cable modem, it is not even a real router (it has no internal firewall for example) although i use it for phone and internet. Greetings, Anouk, - Original Message - *From:* Chris Blouch mailto:cblo...@aol.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:42 PM *Subject:* Re: my macbook pro is here, problems with internet Strange. The Macs and PCs use the same DHCP protocols to get an address. Is this going right from the router to the Mac or do you have a firewall/NAT/wireless thing inbetween. If it is direct then sometime the cable modem reads the hardware address of your computer and needs a full power cycle to let go and read a new one. CB a radix wrote: Hello, my macbook pro arrived this morning via ups I must say its quick, i ordered 8 days ago via bank transfer and a custom configuration. Everything works fine although i get lost in a few dialogs. I cant connect to the internet htough. I use a cable modem and udner windows i can just push in the network cable and I am ready to go. Not so now htough. Any idea of what routers work best with the mac? I was thinking of getting a linksis pre-n router, will that work? If i just configure the touter right and it works on the pc should i also just be able to plug it into the mac for it to work? Greetings, Anouk, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: clean install or upgrade?
Hi, I'm planning on doing an upgrade. So we will see how that goes. Chris On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 07:06:45 +0100 william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com wrote: you go to the utilities menu in the installer i think chose disc utility then erase and install. I will watch feedback over next couple months then upgrade but at present what I have is working On 28 Aug 2009, at 06:54, Jessi and Goldina wrote: I plan to do a clean install also and plan to record it too. I'm not sure if I'll spread it around, I guess it depends on how well I feel it goes, lol. this is my first time ever installing an OS on any platform though, so I thought it should be recorded haha. can someone explain the steps for doing a clean install? I'm sure it's been discussed to death but I've been away at my cabin and had about 2000 messages in my inbox so didn't pay much attention as I rapidly deleted, lol. I assume a clean install means deleting leopard and all other data? which would of course mean backing up first...I can't use time machine cuz it won't work with my external drive without me deleting everything off it and I'm so not doing that, so I plan to just copy and paste all my data and stuff over. I guess I'll lose my emails, but maybe there's some way other than time machine of archiving them before I do this? and now I'll stop rambling, I'm sure I'm not making much sense. it's time for bed and book for me. but I just wanna make sure I have all the steps in place for when the big moment comes!!! I'm pretty excited about it!! Jessi and Goldina On 27-Aug-09, at 9:55 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: I would reccomend that you do a clean install, it may take a bit more time to reinstall everything, but it's usually more reliable, certainly that's what I'm going to do, and I plan on recording mac pod cast number 10, dedicated to the install of snow leopard, so stay tuned for that. On Aug 27, 2009, at 9:17 AM, a radix wrote: Hello, i am ordering sl via the phone now. I wonder, is an upgrade (so not a totally clean install) recommended? I know it is a VERY BAD IDEA on a iwndows machine but i wonder if it is ok on a mac? I would actually like it if my current settings could be used. Greetings, Anouk -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: status menu?
Yes, I want to thank you as well, it really helps. Greetings, Anouk, - Original Message - From: Rich Ring To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 12:45 AM Subject: Re: status menu? I just want to thank you for your messages. I am a very new Mac user, and I am feeling a bit overwhelmed. Thanks for your clear and helpful messages. - Original Message - From: Esther To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:35 PM Subject: Re: status menu? Hello, There are shortcuts both in VoiceOver and for the Mac in general to move to the status menu bar. In VoiceOver, pressing VO-M (Control-Option-M) once takes you to the application menu bar, pressing VO-M twice takes you to the status menu bar, and pressing VO-M three times takes you to a Spotlight search. So, to check your battery, you could press VO-M twice, then left arrow to the battery menu and arrow down to the menu options for display preferences, energy saver preferences, etc. To check the date and time, arrow left again, then arrow down into that menu's settings. You can also use the shortcuts Control-F2 to navigate to the application menu bar, Control-F8 to move to the status menu bar, and Command-Space to bring up Spotlight search. These work independently of VoiceOver. VO-M always starts you at the Apple Menu. Then you can either use your arrow keys or type the first few letters of a menu name to navigate to application menu items or the Help menu for that app. There are also shortcuts both in VoiceOver and the Mac in general to move to the Dock, which you can use to launch applications, check on downloads, and check the trash. VoiceOver used VO-D, but Control-F3 also works. Again, you can navigate with arrow keys or by typing the first few letters of an item in the dock. If you want to customize the order of items in the dock, select an item, press the option key and use your arrow keys to move it to a new location/order. Cheers, Esther a radix wrote: Hello, my brother tried my mac today and apparently, to the right of the apple menu there is a status menu where you can see your airport status, the time and the battery status. Can anyone tell me where i can find it because i would like to check how long my battery can hold out. Thanks, Greetings, Anouk, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Fw: The Orbitcast Daily Update
Hank, Matthew, Just in case you didn't realise, this thread is currently going out to the whole macvisionaries list! As wonderfully descriptive as those metaphors were, they're probably not too appropriate here. Please, if you're going to continue the thread, be careful which messages you quote! Scott --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Boxee?
hank smith wrote: what does this thing do? - Original Message - *From:* Larry Wanger mailto:lsw...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:53 PM *Subject:* Boxee? Is anyone successfully able to use VO with Boxee? I’m considering downloading and investigating it but thought I’d ask. I believe it's a program to watch tv shows and videos from the web. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Transferring files from Icon to Mac--SSH a possibility?
Anna, you actually got your Icon to connect to the Mac? Last I heard, this was still not possible. On Aug 27, 2009, at 8:24 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: Hi Terrence, The easiest thing is probably to connect the Icon to your Mac and put it in disk mode. Then use Finder to copy everything over. I did something similar recently and it worked great. You could also share the folders on your Icon and do it wirelessly but my guess is that would be slower than a USB connection. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: why is openoffice accessible and neoofficeenot
I've heard from friends at Sun, the people who brought you the Java Access Bridge for Windows and GNU/Linux platforms that there has been a Macintosh version in the works. Since then, though, two major events have changed the landscape: 1. Sun has been acquired by Oracle, a company who, at best, has been lukewarm to accessibility and the Sun powerhouse accessibility team may be starved of funds as Oracle doesn't seem to see it as terribly important. 2. The fellow who, as a volunteer, wrote the newish Window-Eyes Java support code using the very cool GW scripting facility, did so by ignoring the Access Bridge and communicating with the Java VM directly. the GW scripts are profoundly faster than those in JAWS and they include more information in a much more well organized manner. Also, the GW Java is much more stable as the bridge introduced an entire layer of flaky code. I don't know anything about how Macintosh programs communicate with each other but, following the GW lead, I would assume one could build a solution based on the WE scripts as the part that talks to the VM is going to be very similar if not identical. Happy Hacking, cdh On Aug 27, 2009, at 3:27 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: Hmm, in the windows world, there was a java access bridge that interfaced between Windows accessibility and Java Swing. Is there anything like that for the Mac? I wonder how hard it would be to port. (I am not a good enough programmer to do this right now.) Jon On Aug 27, 2009, at 3:20 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: From poking around it would appear that NeoOffice uses Java swing for the user interface and I suspect the Java swing to apple accessibility API connections are either not wired up or non- existant. I just downloaded NeoOffice and isntalled patch 7 and it was still inaccessible. It defaulted to opening up a text processor document and nothing I typed was read back to me. CB a radix wrote: Hello, I wonder, why is neooffice not accessible? I thought it was a fork of openoffice and even a fork made more for the mac then openoffice. Should it not then be more accesible? Greetings, Anouk, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
faulty SL discs
Hi beware. Macworld UK are saying that some users can't install snowleopard. The discs are faulty so not sure if that applies to all of them. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: just ordered sl over the phone
hi; i did order it over the phone likewise, however, won't get mine tell september 2nd threw the 8th mike On Aug 28, 2009, at 12:55 AM, a radix wrote: Hello, I had actually called apple yesterday but it took a lng time so i gave up. I tried it again this morning and it took very long too but i persisted and got through eventually. I have a bit of trouble with the apple store website and since it is possible to order stuff over the phone i prefer to do that. According to the woman on the phone however, they cant sell you the upgrade for 10 dollar (euro in my case) over the phone and you have to order it online. I told her that i was blind and having trouble with the website and that no one was nearby to help me (after waiting 30 minutes on the phone i wanted to get it over and done with) she let me order the 29 dollar version and says the rest of the money will be returned to me. How cool is that! She also asked me how i used the computer and i told her all about voiceover. Greetings, Anouk --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: clean install or upgrade?
I've done only upgrades since Panther on my 4 year old iMac G5. Upgrades work fine in most cases. Just as any time you do brain surgery on your OS, have a backup. Also disconnect any external drives. You don't have to, but it's a best practice. I'll do an update on my Macbook, but a clean install on one of our Mini's, it had a dead HD, so this was a perfect time to fix that. On Aug 28, 2009, at 5:28 AM, Chris G wrote: Hi, I'm planning on doing an upgrade. So we will see how that goes. Chris On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 07:06:45 +0100 william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com wrote: you go to the utilities menu in the installer i think chose disc utility then erase and install. I will watch feedback over next couple months then upgrade but at present what I have is working On 28 Aug 2009, at 06:54, Jessi and Goldina wrote: I plan to do a clean install also and plan to record it too. I'm not sure if I'll spread it around, I guess it depends on how well I feel it goes, lol. this is my first time ever installing an OS on any platform though, so I thought it should be recorded haha. can someone explain the steps for doing a clean install? I'm sure it's been discussed to death but I've been away at my cabin and had about 2000 messages in my inbox so didn't pay much attention as I rapidly deleted, lol. I assume a clean install means deleting leopard and all other data? which would of course mean backing up first...I can't use time machine cuz it won't work with my external drive without me deleting everything off it and I'm so not doing that, so I plan to just copy and paste all my data and stuff over. I guess I'll lose my emails, but maybe there's some way other than time machine of archiving them before I do this? and now I'll stop rambling, I'm sure I'm not making much sense. it's time for bed and book for me. but I just wanna make sure I have all the steps in place for when the big moment comes!!! I'm pretty excited about it!! Jessi and Goldina On 27-Aug-09, at 9:55 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: I would reccomend that you do a clean install, it may take a bit more time to reinstall everything, but it's usually more reliable, certainly that's what I'm going to do, and I plan on recording mac pod cast number 10, dedicated to the install of snow leopard, so stay tuned for that. On Aug 27, 2009, at 9:17 AM, a radix wrote: Hello, i am ordering sl via the phone now. I wonder, is an upgrade (so not a totally clean install) recommended? I know it is a VERY BAD IDEA on a iwndows machine but i wonder if it is ok on a mac? I would actually like it if my current settings could be used. Greetings, Anouk -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Fwd: Snow Leopard changes how file and drive sizes are calculated
Here's an article that will screw with your mind a bit. :) Begin forwarded message: Date: August 28, 2009 3:28:47 AM EDT Subject: Snow Leopard changes how file and drive sizes are calculated Source: MacFixIt When you ask most non-geeks how many bytes are in a kilobyte, after thinking about the root of the prefix kilo they might tell you one thousand, and be both right and wrong at the same time. Read more… --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
searching for text on a webpage problems
Hello, when using windows i mostly navigated websites by either arrowing down or searching for text, i used a small program called webformator that translated the webpage in a sort of text file, you could for example search for edit and it would bring you to the first edit fieold because it treated its own labels as text too, so you could also navigate to combo boxed checkboxes etc etc. I am now on a site where i read messages and i would like to go to a new message, the page contains multiple messages, the way i normally do is search for the words join date, i do control option f and type the text but my cursor does not jump to that contents. what can i do, am i pressing the right keys or do i need to use a built-in safari function for this to work? Greetings, Anouk, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: why is openoffice accessible and neoofficeenot
Hi there, at the risk of taking this off topic (and I'm not sure I'm doing so) is the GWJava stuff open-source? It would be very interesting indeed to see how they're doing the communication with the virtual machine. I'm just thinking that it might make a nice final year undergraduate project to port across to OSX. If you'd like to contact me off-list on this one that would be perfectly fine. Dónal _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hofstader Sent: 28 August 2009 12:15 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: why is openoffice accessible and neoofficeenot I've heard from friends at Sun, the people who brought you the Java Access Bridge for Windows and GNU/Linux platforms that there has been a Macintosh version in the works. Since then, though, two major events have changed the landscape: 1. Sun has been acquired by Oracle, a company who, at best, has been lukewarm to accessibility and the Sun powerhouse accessibility team may be starved of funds as Oracle doesn't seem to see it as terribly important. 2. The fellow who, as a volunteer, wrote the newish Window-Eyes Java support code using the very cool GW scripting facility, did so by ignoring the Access Bridge and communicating with the Java VM directly. the GW scripts are profoundly faster than those in JAWS and they include more information in a much more well organized manner. Also, the GW Java is much more stable as the bridge introduced an entire layer of flaky code. I don't know anything about how Macintosh programs communicate with each other but, following the GW lead, I would assume one could build a solution based on the WE scripts as the part that talks to the VM is going to be very similar if not identical. Happy Hacking, cdh On Aug 27, 2009, at 3:27 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: Hmm, in the windows world, there was a java access bridge that interfaced between Windows accessibility and Java Swing. Is there anything like that for the Mac? I wonder how hard it would be to port. (I am not a good enough programmer to do this right now.) Jon On Aug 27, 2009, at 3:20 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: From poking around it would appear that NeoOffice uses Java swing for the user interface and I suspect the Java swing to apple accessibility API connections are either not wired up or non-existant. I just downloaded NeoOffice and isntalled patch 7 and it was still inaccessible. It defaulted to opening up a text processor document and nothing I typed was read back to me. CB a radix wrote: Hello, I wonder, why is neooffice not accessible? I thought it was a fork of openoffice and even a fork made more for the mac then openoffice. Should it not then be more accesible? Greetings, Anouk, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
cant display certain pages in safari
Hello, I just wanted to listen to some radio stations but i got an error that safari could not find the required plugin. These pages do require windows media player and they play inside the webbrowser. Will flip4mac solve this? Also i found it strange that safari totally quit when this happened and i had to use the force quit option. Greetings, Anouk, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: why is openoffice accessible and neoofficeenot
I'm pretty sure the source code for the GW Java stuff is available for download either at their scripts central page or somewhere nearby. On Aug 28, 2009, at 7:21 AM, Donal Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi there, at the risk of taking this off topic (and I'm not sure I'm doing so) is the GWJava stuff open-source? It would be very interesting indeed to see how they're doing the communication with the virtual machine. I'm just thinking that it might make a nice final year undergraduate project to port across to OSX. If you'd like to contact me off-list on this one that would be perfectly fine. Dónal From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Chris Hofstader Sent: 28 August 2009 12:15 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: why is openoffice accessible and neoofficeenot I've heard from friends at Sun, the people who brought you the Java Access Bridge for Windows and GNU/Linux platforms that there has been a Macintosh version in the works. Since then, though, two major events have changed the landscape: 1. Sun has been acquired by Oracle, a company who, at best, has been lukewarm to accessibility and the Sun powerhouse accessibility team may be starved of funds as Oracle doesn't seem to see it as terribly important. 2. The fellow who, as a volunteer, wrote the newish Window-Eyes Java support code using the very cool GW scripting facility, did so by ignoring the Access Bridge and communicating with the Java VM directly. the GW scripts are profoundly faster than those in JAWS and they include more information in a much more well organized manner. Also, the GW Java is much more stable as the bridge introduced an entire layer of flaky code. I don't know anything about how Macintosh programs communicate with each other but, following the GW lead, I would assume one could build a solution based on the WE scripts as the part that talks to the VM is going to be very similar if not identical. Happy Hacking, cdh On Aug 27, 2009, at 3:27 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: Hmm, in the windows world, there was a java access bridge that interfaced between Windows accessibility and Java Swing. Is there anything like that for the Mac? I wonder how hard it would be to port. (I am not a good enough programmer to do this right now.) Jon On Aug 27, 2009, at 3:20 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: From poking around it would appear that NeoOffice uses Java swing for the user interface and I suspect the Java swing to apple accessibility API connections are either not wired up or non- existant. I just downloaded NeoOffice and isntalled patch 7 and it was still inaccessible. It defaulted to opening up a text processor document and nothing I typed was read back to me. CB a radix wrote: Hello, I wonder, why is neooffice not accessible? I thought it was a fork of openoffice and even a fork made more for the mac then openoffice. Should it not then be more accesible? Greetings, Anouk, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
shortcut to download folder
Hello, I notice safari does not automatically start playing mp3-streams into an external player, i like that, but is there a shortcut to the download folder like there is for the home folder? Greetings, Anouk, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
System Profiler, something I wasn't aware of
Hi! I'm sure most of you are aware of the System Profiler in your Apple Menu? This utility displays a profile of your Mac I've just had to use it to check on something and I thought I'd do some further exploration and I was well rewarded. For example, did you know that you can save your System profile to a file? Very handy to email the tech should you have to or send to someone, you can save in multiple formats including XML, RTF and TXT. ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Google down?
Hi all: is the Google search engine off line? Not able to access the .ca or .com domain. Haven't been able to access for a few days now. mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Google down?
I just accessed it fine. Must be one of those wierd things. If your able to access other pages fine I'd say maybe it's on your isp's end or something. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: cant display certain pages in safari
What version of Safari are you using? Are you using SL? Fip4Mac should solve your problems. - Original Message - From: a radix To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 12:28 PM Subject: cant display certain pages in safari Hello, I just wanted to listen to some radio stations but i got an error that safari could not find the required plugin. These pages do require windows media player and they play inside the webbrowser. Will flip4mac solve this? Also i found it strange that safari totally quit when this happened and i had to use the force quit option. Greetings, Anouk, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: why is openoffice accessible and neoofficeenot
thanks very much CDH that looks excellent and really interesting. Best, Dónal _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hofstader Sent: 28 August 2009 13:14 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: why is openoffice accessible and neoofficeenot I'm pretty sure the source code for the GW Java stuff is available for download either at their scripts central page or somewhere nearby. On Aug 28, 2009, at 7:21 AM, Donal Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi there, at the risk of taking this off topic (and I'm not sure I'm doing so) is the GWJava stuff open-source? It would be very interesting indeed to see how they're doing the communication with the virtual machine. I'm just thinking that it might make a nice final year undergraduate project to port across to OSX. If you'd like to contact me off-list on this one that would be perfectly fine. Dónal _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hofstader Sent: 28 August 2009 12:15 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: why is openoffice accessible and neoofficeenot I've heard from friends at Sun, the people who brought you the Java Access Bridge for Windows and GNU/Linux platforms that there has been a Macintosh version in the works. Since then, though, two major events have changed the landscape: 1. Sun has been acquired by Oracle, a company who, at best, has been lukewarm to accessibility and the Sun powerhouse accessibility team may be starved of funds as Oracle doesn't seem to see it as terribly important. 2. The fellow who, as a volunteer, wrote the newish Window-Eyes Java support code using the very cool GW scripting facility, did so by ignoring the Access Bridge and communicating with the Java VM directly. the GW scripts are profoundly faster than those in JAWS and they include more information in a much more well organized manner. Also, the GW Java is much more stable as the bridge introduced an entire layer of flaky code. I don't know anything about how Macintosh programs communicate with each other but, following the GW lead, I would assume one could build a solution based on the WE scripts as the part that talks to the VM is going to be very similar if not identical. Happy Hacking, cdh On Aug 27, 2009, at 3:27 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: Hmm, in the windows world, there was a java access bridge that interfaced between Windows accessibility and Java Swing. Is there anything like that for the Mac? I wonder how hard it would be to port. (I am not a good enough programmer to do this right now.) Jon On Aug 27, 2009, at 3:20 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: From poking around it would appear that NeoOffice uses Java swing for the user interface and I suspect the Java swing to apple accessibility API connections are either not wired up or non-existant. I just downloaded NeoOffice and isntalled patch 7 and it was still inaccessible. It defaulted to opening up a text processor document and nothing I typed was read back to me. CB a radix wrote: Hello, I wonder, why is neooffice not accessible? I thought it was a fork of openoffice and even a fork made more for the mac then openoffice. Should it not then be more accesible? Greetings, Anouk, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Mac-cessibility News] Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver
Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver We're pleased to bring you our review of Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard with VoiceOver, where Josh de Lioncourt takes a look at the latest iteration of Apple's Macintosh operating system from a VoiceOver users perspective. As always, enjoy, and feel free to comment with your own thoughts on Snow Leopard. You can read the rest of this news item at: http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/08/28/review-mac-os-x-10-6-snow-leopard-with-voiceover/ The Mac-cessibility Network ...it's all within our reach... http://maccessibility.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Boxee?
Its an entertainment oriented app. Ultimately, you'd hook your computer to your TV. You can access Netflix, Hulu, and all sorts of other online video and audio services in addition to media on your own network. It has bit torrent built in and all sorts of other features. It also allows you to share what you're watching or listening to and you can see what others are checking out as well. A great social networking aspect. It looks very cool. On Aug 28, 2009, at 12:09 AM, hank smith wrote: what does this thing do? - Original Message - From: Larry Wanger To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:53 PM Subject: Boxee? Is anyone successfully able to use VO with Boxee? I’m considering downloading and investigating it but thought I’d ask. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
beep sound when pressing space?
Hello, for some reason i get a beep sound when i press the spacebar and i is kind of irritating, is there a way to turn this off (i already have sounds in voicover turned off). Greetings, Anouk, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Supported apps on Snow Leopard
I see that aydim works fine, but grol some times it does and other times not. Matthew On 8/27/09, David Hole balubathebr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello folks Check out this one to see if your apps works under Snow Leopard: http://snowleopard.wikidot.com/ David -- You can lead a heart to love, but you can't make it fall. MSN/e-mail: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com AIM: mattdy1 skype: graduater2004. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver
Nice article. On Aug 28, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Maccessibility wrote: Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver We're pleased to bring you our review of Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard with VoiceOver, where Josh de Lioncourt takes a look at the latest iteration of Apple's Macintosh operating system from a VoiceOver users perspective. As always, enjoy, and feel free to comment with your own thoughts on Snow Leopard. You can read the rest of this news item at: http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/08/28/review-mac-os-x-10-6-snow-leopard-with-voiceover/ The Mac-cessibility Network ...it's all within our reach... http://maccessibility.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
anyone tried quicknav?
hi all has anyone yet tried quicknav in snowleopard? If so how does one interact etc, if not using the voiceover keys? WIll --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver
Great review. I was going to wait and get SL later as I didn't seee it as a must have but after reading this I can't wait to get my hands on it. My Macbook Pro is from May of 2007 and I suspect it does not allow for the track pad navigation but the other improvements sound terrific. My poor iMac G5 is a power PC model that is 4 years old now. Its being left in the dust, can't even upgrade it. Too bad. On Aug 28, 2009, at 7:19 AM, Maccessibility wrote: Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver We're pleased to bring you our review of Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard with VoiceOver, where Josh de Lioncourt takes a look at the latest iteration of Apple's Macintosh operating system from a VoiceOver users perspective. As always, enjoy, and feel free to comment with your own thoughts on Snow Leopard. You can read the rest of this news item at: http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/08/28/review-mac-os-x-10-6-snow-leopard-with-voiceover/ The Mac-cessibility Network ...it's all within our reach... http://maccessibility.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Transferring files from Icon to Mac--SSH a possibility?
Hi Scott, I'm running the public beta - don't know if that makes any difference - but yes, I connected my Braille Plus to a USB port,turned on disk mode, and my Mac Mini recognized it as a portable drive with no problems. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
some adium questions
Hellol i have installed adium and that was very easy, is it possible to get some kind of popup window when a new message is received? I tried navigating the chat window (in which you type messages) and found it a bit daunting, apparently it does not only show your current chat session but also messages that you received while you were not online. Is it possible to limit it to the current chat session? Greetings, Anouk, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: System Profiler, something I wasn't aware of
Yeah. System Profiler is awesome. It contains a lot of great information about your Mac. I got pretty surprised then I found out how much information it gives. I can give you an example. Here is what it says about my power: Battery Information: Model Information: Serial Number: DP-ASMB016-38cd-23e3 Manufacturer:DP Device name: ASMB016 Pack Lot Code: 0002 PCB Lot Code: Firmware Version:0110 Hardware Revision: 0500 Cell Revision: 0102 Charge Information: Charge remaining (mAh): 4724 Fully charged: Yes Charging:No Full charge capacity (mAh): 4848 Health Information: Cycle count: 17 Condition: Good Battery Installed: Yes Amperage (mA): 0 Voltage (mV):12468 System Power Settings: AC Power: System Sleep Timer (Minutes):0 Disk Sleep Timer (Minutes): 0 Display Sleep Timer (Minutes): 10 Automatic Restart On Power Loss: No Wake On AC Change: No Wake On Clamshell Open: Yes Wake On LAN: Yes Display Sleep Uses Dim: Yes Battery Power: System Sleep Timer (Minutes):0 Disk Sleep Timer (Minutes): 0 Display Sleep Timer (Minutes): 2 Wake On AC Change: No Wake On Clamshell Open: Yes Display Sleep Uses Dim: Yes Reduce Brightness: Yes Hardware Configuration: UPS Installed: No AC Charger Information: Connected: Yes Charging:No Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ On 28/08/2009, at 14.36, Dane Trethowan wrote: Hi! I'm sure most of you are aware of the System Profiler in your Apple Menu? This utility displays a profile of your Mac I've just had to use it to check on something and I thought I'd do some further exploration and I was well rewarded. For example, did you know that you can save your System profile to a file? Very handy to email the tech should you have to or send to someone, you can save in multiple formats including XML, RTF and TXT. ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: anyone tried quicknav?
Will, you interact by pressing down and right arrow together. On Aug 28, 2009, at 10:04 AM, william lomas wrote: hi all has anyone yet tried quicknav in snowleopard? If so how does one interact etc, if not using the voiceover keys? WIll --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
voiceover in snowleopard thanks to josh!
hi all thanks to lioncourt.com here is a review of all the voice over features, in snow leopard. Josh, can I please assume that quick nav is only used for navigating web etc. as you will still need the modifier keys though to go to doc, bring up link chooser etc? I, to, like the trackpad so may inthe future (although have only had this mac a year) upgrade the macbook. Incidentally though in the quickstart tutorial what happens when you get to the gesture elements does it skip? Again thanks WIll And now folks, the link, smile http://www.lioncourt.com/reviews/mac-os-x-10-6-snow-leopard-with-voiceover/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: shortcut to download folder
Hmm. Not that I know of. Best I could come up with was VO-D to bring up the dock and then d o w to move to downloads. You could also do command-shift-g to bring up the Go to Folder dialogue and then put in ~/Downloads, but that's even more typing. CB a radix wrote: Hello, I notice safari does not automatically start playing mp3-streams into an external player, i like that, but is there a shortcut to the download folder like there is for the home folder? Greetings, Anouk, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: anyone tried quicknav?
Will, QuickNav is one of my favorite features of Snow Leopard. I discuss this in my review on Lioncourt.com, but essentially, Left/Right arrows toggle QuickNav on and off. Down-Right interacts. Down-Left stops interacting. Up-Down clicks an item, same as VO-Space. HTH. On Aug 28, 2009, at 7:04 AM, william lomas wrote: hi all has anyone yet tried quicknav in snowleopard? If so how does one interact etc, if not using the voiceover keys? WIll --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver
Very nice article. Did I hear correctly? It is now possible to script Voice Over and share scripts? If so, where can i find out more about this and how to get started? Are there any limitations to the scripting functionality? Thanks James - Original Message - From: Chris Hofstader c...@hofstader.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver Nice article. On Aug 28, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Maccessibility wrote: Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver We're pleased to bring you our review of Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard with VoiceOver, where Josh de Lioncourt takes a look at the latest iteration of Apple's Macintosh operating system from a VoiceOver users perspective. As always, enjoy, and feel free to comment with your own thoughts on Snow Leopard. You can read the rest of this news item at: http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/08/28/review-mac-os-x-10-6-snow-leopard-with-voiceover/ The Mac-cessibility Network ...it's all within our reach... http://maccessibility.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
slick!
Hi I am helping a friend install mac os x snowleopard and we could isntal it direct from within mac os x leopard itself! click ont he icon, click next, agree to license, customize anthing and boom, done! and, as voices are only available in english this is the quickest way to install so no booting up from the DVD! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: anyone tried quicknav?
hi josh but as stated in article, its limitations are present so you can't go to the doc with this feature etc etc? so you would still need to use the VO keys to accomplish tasks like links lists, etc On 28 Aug 2009, at 16:27, Josh de Lioncourt wrote: Will, QuickNav is one of my favorite features of Snow Leopard. I discuss this in my review on Lioncourt.com, but essentially, Left/Right arrows toggle QuickNav on and off. Down-Right interacts. Down-Left stops interacting. Up-Down clicks an item, same as VO-Space. HTH. On Aug 28, 2009, at 7:04 AM, william lomas wrote: hi all has anyone yet tried quicknav in snowleopard? If so how does one interact etc, if not using the voiceover keys? WIll --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: shortcut to download folder
You could add it to your sidebar... 1. Go to finder. 2. Open a new window command-n 3. Switch to home command-shift-h 4. Select downloads by typing the word until downloads is selected. 5. make it favorite command-t. On Aug 28, 2009, at 10:07 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: Hmm. Not that I know of. Best I could come up with was VO-D to bring up the dock and then d o w to move to downloads. You could also do command-shift-g to bring up the Go to Folder dialogue and then put in ~/Downloads, but that's even more typing. CB a radix wrote: Hello, I notice safari does not automatically start playing mp3- streams into an external player, i like that, but is there a shortcut to the download folder like there is for the home folder? Greetings, Anouk, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Transferring files from Icon to Mac--SSH a possibility?
That is very good news. I was one of the original testers of the unit and at that time it would not work. So, it is good to know they have finally been able to address this issue in the more recent software. On Aug 28, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: Hi Scott, I'm running the public beta - don't know if that makes any difference - but yes, I connected my Braille Plus to a USB port,turned on disk mode, and my Mac Mini recognized it as a portable drive with no problems. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: clean install or upgrade?
Hi, Years ago, I upgraded from Windows 95 to 98 with no problems. I figure if that worked, upgrading from Leopard to Snow Leopard should be fine, so I'm not doing a clean install. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Snow Leopard compatible Infovox iVox voices now in public beta
Hi Everyone, Acapela Group and AssistiveWare today announced a public beta of Infovox iVox 2.0. Infovox iVox 2.0 brings Snow Leopard compatibility, significantly improves performance and responsiveness and adds a number of new voices for the following languages: Arabic, French, German, Flemish, Spanish, Brazilian Portuguese and Turkish. These voices work with virtually any Speech Manager compliant Mac OS X application, including VoiceOver, Preview, TextEdit, AssistiveWare VisioVoice, ConvenienceWare GhostReader, and Adobe Acrobat. Today's press release: http://www.assistiveware.com/pr.php#PR280809 Infovox iVox 1.3, the currently shipping version, is not compatible with Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard. A complete rewrite of the core iVox speech engine was necessary to make Infovox iVox 64-bit compatible and ready for Snow Leopard. Despite the major engineering efforts, Infovox iVox 2.0 is offered as a free update in order to facilitate the migration to Snow Leopard for those people who rely on these natural sounding voices to use their computer. Because of the large number of languages available in Infovox iVox, not all languages will be available immediately as part of the public beta. The first languages to be released will be American English, British English, French, German, Italian, Canadian French, Spanish, American Spanish, Swedish and Norwegian. This was done about an hour ago. More languages will follow in the coming weeks. Languages are made available in public beta step by step to allow for basic internal tests before a language is made available as part of the public beta. We want to take this occasion to thank the beta testers for their excellent feedback. We are currently seeking testers (max 2 per language) for the following languages that are not yet in public beta: Portuguese, Brazilian Portuguese, Dutch, Flemish, Danish, Russian, Finnish, Czech, Polish, Turkish, Arabic. In order to be accepted as a tester (first come first serve basis) you need to be an experienced VoiceOver users and native speaker of the language and also be able to read and write in English. You also need to be familiar with Infovox iVox (have at least used the demo in the past) but do not necessarily need to own a license. There is no remuneration for testing, but if you provide good feedback we may provide you with a free license for a language of choice. Cheers, david. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
IMPORTANT - Re-post of petition link for Adobe Flash access
I just wanted to take this opportunity to post this link again for those whom may not have seen this. Also, below is an important note on successfully adding your signature to the petition. Please do go and give this a look if you haven't already?… Thanks so very much!… Smiles, Cara :) http://www.maccessibility.net/petition When you sign the petition, note that you'll actually receive an email. this is actually not simply a confirmation email, but one with a link that you'll need to click on to confirm your signature. Once you click on the link you'll see a confirmation page and no action is needed; your sig will then be added to the petition. This is very important to remember. So once more, clicking 'sign the petition' will cause an email to be sent to you. Click on the link in that email and then, and only then, will your signature be added to the petition. Please, do feel free to circulate this petition to any and all mailing lists, forums, chats etc, that you feel might be interested. I can't stress to you, enough, the importance of this. Adobe really needs to see AS MANY signatures here as possible. Pleas do show this to as many folks as you can, K? Thanks so much to all of you whom have signed this already! As always, ya'll way rock! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
anyone got experience with searching for tet within a webpage
Hello, i now tried the internal safari search and the voicover function but both dont seem to work. I rely a lot on searching text within a webpage to navigate but i cant seem to get it to work with voiceover/safari. For example i post and read a lot on a big site called head-fi.org and to jump from post to post i always search for the text join date, or if i want to read my last post in a thread i search for jul 2008 (my join date). Greetings, Anouk, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: anyone got experience with searching for tet within a webpage
Hi Anouk, At the moment, your best bet is the Item Chooser, which you reach with VO-I. I hope searching web pages works better-with Snow Leopard. Has anyone tried it yet? I won't get my copy until sometime next week, unfortunately, or I'd try it. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
backing up/exporting On My Mac folders in Mail
Hi all, I would like to do a clean install of Snow Leopard when it comes. Mostly this isn't a huge deal, because since I've just moved my stuff over to my mac recently, I already have backups on my portable drive. The one exception to this is the folders I've created in mail. Is there some way that I can create a copy of these that I can restore after I've installed Snow Leopard? Thanks, Donna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: anyone got experience with searching for tet within a webpage
On related note, is there a way to navigate by visited links, on a webpage? In a certain other screen reach which shall remain shamefully nameless (but not namefully shameless), you just hit V; what's the VO equivalent, if any? Mark BurningHawk Baxter Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
flac to alac converter, max from sbooth
Hello, has anyone tried max from sbooth? I wonder if it can do batsh convertion. Greetings, Anouk, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: backing up/exporting On My Mac folders in Mail
Hi Donna, I'm afraid I can't remember specifically as i don't have my new Mac yet, but I think you can copy all your contacts and rules by looking for someting to do with Mail in the Library folder. Perhaps someone can provide greater detail. Also, you can find help on this in the Mail help. Use Command and the question mark to bring it up. You'll then need to use the Window Chooser Menu (VO =F2 twice quickly) to find it as it is a floating window. HTH Take care James - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 5:14 PM Subject: backing up/exporting On My Mac folders in Mail Hi all, I would like to do a clean install of Snow Leopard when it comes. Mostly this isn't a huge deal, because since I've just moved my stuff over to my mac recently, I already have backups on my portable drive. The one exception to this is the folders I've created in mail. Is there some way that I can create a copy of these that I can restore after I've installed Snow Leopard? Thanks, Donna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
using Shazam on the Iphone
Hi all, When I use Shazam to tag a song, I always lose speech once the song has been tagged. Has anyone else experienced this, and if yes, have you found some way to get speech back other than doing a reset? TIA, Donna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: using Shazam on the Iphone
Hi, I will experiment a bit more with item chooser but i dont think that can reach the information i normaly use to navigate by. I will have to experiment and read a bit more of the manual because i have never realy used advanced webpage navigating before, just searched for text on a page and got by, btw I also got my hands on the book you mentioned and am planning to read it this evening, on the mac. Thanks a lot for all your help and support, it is greatly appreciated. Greetings, Anouk, - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: using Shazam on the Iphone Hi all, When I use Shazam to tag a song, I always lose speech once the song has been tagged. Has anyone else experienced this, and if yes, have you found some way to get speech back other than doing a reset? TIA, Donna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
infovox ivox beta
Hi all Would any one here happen to have tried the infovox ivox voices with snow leopard? How do they work? J --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Fwd: Snow Leopard changes how file and drive sizes are calculated
Makes sense to me. As one commenter mentioned, this just reconciles the disk space the OS reports with what the drive manufacturers advertise. No longer will you buy a 500GB drive and have it show up as 465GB. Another commenter pointed out that this was simply adoption of IEEE 1541. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1541-2002 CB Scott Howell wrote: Here's an article that will screw with your mind a bit. :) Begin forwarded message: *Date: *August 28, 2009 3:28:47 AM EDT *Subject: **Snow Leopard changes how file and drive sizes are calculated* *Source: *MacFixIt When you ask most non-geeks how many bytes are in a kilobyte, after thinking about the root of the prefix kilo they might tell you one thousand, and be both right and wrong at the same time. Read more… http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20090828002847714 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: using Shazam on the Iphone
hit home and then relaunch, is the only way so far. On Aug 28, 2009, at 5:15 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, When I use Shazam to tag a song, I always lose speech once the song has been tagged. Has anyone else experienced this, and if yes, have you found some way to get speech back other than doing a reset? TIA, Donna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Snow leopard just arrived
Shipped from Jonestown PA and just arrived here in VA. Starting the drive format and install now. CB --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver
Hi, What i can't help wondering about is if drag and drop is better supported in SL. For some reason i can't reach the voiceover keyboard commands. The page is empty and i can't fathom why. If there's a text file of the keyboard reference somewhere, i'd be happy to get it. One feature that's also worth mentioning is that you can change voices on the fly, that's cool /Krister 28 aug 2009 kl. 17.02 skrev Larry Wanger: Great review. I was going to wait and get SL later as I didn't seee it as a must have but after reading this I can't wait to get my hands on it. My Macbook Pro is from May of 2007 and I suspect it does not allow for the track pad navigation but the other improvements sound terrific. My poor iMac G5 is a power PC model that is 4 years old now. Its being left in the dust, can't even upgrade it. Too bad. On Aug 28, 2009, at 7:19 AM, Maccessibility wrote: Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver We're pleased to bring you our review of Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard with VoiceOver, where Josh de Lioncourt takes a look at the latest iteration of Apple's Macintosh operating system from a VoiceOver users perspective. As always, enjoy, and feel free to comment with your own thoughts on Snow Leopard. You can read the rest of this news item at: http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/08/28/review-mac-os-x-10-6-snow-leopard-with-voiceover/ The Mac-cessibility Network ...it's all within our reach... http://maccessibility.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: anyone got experience with searching for tet within a webpage
Hello Mark, In Snow Leopard, you can navigate by visited links. Cheers, Anne --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow leopard just arrived
Total install took 19 minutes and filled 6.08GB of disk space. QuickNav worked during the install but the voice was not Alex. Probably takes less CPU or load time to use a lower quality voice. Even though I have VO on during the install, after the reboot I had to turn it on again. CB Chris Blouch wrote: Shipped from Jonestown PA and just arrived here in VA. Starting the drive format and install now. CB --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
flac-alac
Hello, i forgot that there is another codec for the mac that can handle flac files, switch. But can this also convert flac files directly to alac? Greetings, Anouk, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Mac-cessibility News] MacWorld's Christopher Breen Takes a Look at Snow Leopard's Universal Access Features
MacWorld's Christopher Breen Takes a Look at Snow Leopard's Universal Access Features In a recent piece on MacWorld.com, senior editor Christopher Breen takes a look at Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard's new Universal Access features. He examines VoiceOver's Trackpad Commander, web browsing options, new QuickStart, and other improvements. He also points out Snow Leopard's one additional option for the hearing impaired. It's fantastic to see Universal Access [...] You can read the rest of this news item at: http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/08/28/macworlds-christopher-breen-takes-a-look-at-snow-leopards-universal-access-features/ The Mac-cessibility Network ...it's all within our reach... http://maccessibility.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: anyone got experience with searching for tet within a webpage
Hi Mark, Press VO-Command-V to go to the next visited link. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver
Hi Josh, This is a fantastic overview of Snow Leopard. Great job and thanks for the information. Take Care John Panarese On Aug 28, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Maccessibility wrote: Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver We're pleased to bring you our review of Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard with VoiceOver, where Josh de Lioncourt takes a look at the latest iteration of Apple's Macintosh operating system from a VoiceOver users perspective. As always, enjoy, and feel free to comment with your own thoughts on Snow Leopard. You can read the rest of this news item at: http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/08/28/review-mac-os-x-10-6-snow-leopard-with-voiceover/ The Mac-cessibility Network ...it's all within our reach... http://maccessibility.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver
Cheers Josh, really well written review, seems to be pretty thorough. I must, must, must make it to an Apple store today. This is the excuse I've needed to buy a book on Apple Script and actually learn something. Scott On 8/28/09, Maccessibility nore...@maccessibility.net wrote: Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver We're pleased to bring you our review of Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard with VoiceOver, where Josh de Lioncourt takes a look at the latest iteration of Apple's Macintosh operating system from a VoiceOver users perspective. As always, enjoy, and feel free to comment with your own thoughts on Snow Leopard. You can read the rest of this news item at: http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/08/28/review-mac-os-x-10-6-snow-leopard-with-voiceover/ The Mac-cessibility Network ...it's all within our reach... http://maccessibility.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Changing voices on the fly
One feature that's also worth mentioning is that you can change voices on the fly, that's cool How does this feature work? Do you have to navigate through all the various voices on Mac OS X or can you customize the list? Could you elaborate please? Thank you Take care --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow leopard just arrived
i will just install from within leopard --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: using Shazam on the Iphone
That's OK, it's better than a reset! :) Thanks. Donna From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marie Howarth Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:33 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: using Shazam on the Iphone hit home and then relaunch, is the only way so far. On Aug 28, 2009, at 5:15 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, When I use Shazam to tag a song, I always lose speech once the song has been tagged. Has anyone else experienced this, and if yes, have you found some way to get speech back other than doing a reset? TIA, Donna No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2331 - Release Date: 08/28/09 06:26:00 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: anyone tried quicknav?
hi steve it is just like having control and option locked now though as in leopard so doubt i'd need it On 28 Aug 2009, at 17:22, Steven M. Sawczyn wrote: I've used it, you use different combinations of the arrow keys to interact, ETC... Steve On Aug 28, 2009, at 10:04 AM, william lomas wrote: hi all has anyone yet tried quicknav in snowleopard? If so how does one interact etc, if not using the voiceover keys? WIll --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver
are there books on apple script available to us? if so, where? On 28 Aug 2009, at 15:48, Scott Chesworth wrote: Cheers Josh, really well written review, seems to be pretty thorough. I must, must, must make it to an Apple store today. This is the excuse I've needed to buy a book on Apple Script and actually learn something. Scott On 8/28/09, Maccessibility nore...@maccessibility.net wrote: Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver We're pleased to bring you our review of Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard with VoiceOver, where Josh de Lioncourt takes a look at the latest iteration of Apple's Macintosh operating system from a VoiceOver users perspective. As always, enjoy, and feel free to comment with your own thoughts on Snow Leopard. You can read the rest of this news item at: http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/08/28/review-mac-os-x-10-6-snow-leopard-with-voiceover/ The Mac-cessibility Network ...it's all within our reach... http://maccessibility.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver
if you change voices on the fly are the recent voices you used at the top of the list? On 28 Aug 2009, at 19:42, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, What i can't help wondering about is if drag and drop is better supported in SL. For some reason i can't reach the voiceover keyboard commands. The page is empty and i can't fathom why. If there's a text file of the keyboard reference somewhere, i'd be happy to get it. One feature that's also worth mentioning is that you can change voices on the fly, that's cool /Krister 28 aug 2009 kl. 17.02 skrev Larry Wanger: Great review. I was going to wait and get SL later as I didn't seee it as a must have but after reading this I can't wait to get my hands on it. My Macbook Pro is from May of 2007 and I suspect it does not allow for the track pad navigation but the other improvements sound terrific. My poor iMac G5 is a power PC model that is 4 years old now. Its being left in the dust, can't even upgrade it. Too bad. On Aug 28, 2009, at 7:19 AM, Maccessibility wrote: Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver We're pleased to bring you our review of Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard with VoiceOver, where Josh de Lioncourt takes a look at the latest iteration of Apple's Macintosh operating system from a VoiceOver users perspective. As always, enjoy, and feel free to comment with your own thoughts on Snow Leopard. You can read the rest of this news item at: http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/08/28/review-mac-os-x-10-6-snow-leopard-with-voiceover/ The Mac-cessibility Network ...it's all within our reach... http://maccessibility.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
apple getting started with voicover guide for sl?
Hello, is there any indication when this will be available? Greetings, Anouk, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow leopard just arrived
What voice was used? Just curious. Also what type of Mac do you have? Thanks Take care - Original Message - From: Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com To: Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com Cc: MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 5:28 PM Subject: Re: Snow leopard just arrived Total install took 19 minutes and filled 6.08GB of disk space. QuickNav worked during the install but the voice was not Alex. Probably takes less CPU or load time to use a lower quality voice. Even though I have VO on during the install, after the reboot I had to turn it on again. CB Chris Blouch wrote: Shipped from Jonestown PA and just arrived here in VA. Starting the drive format and install now. CB --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: anyone tried quicknav?
Apparently from what I've read, when QuickNav is turned on, pressing the down arrow to interact with an element or item assumes that you are already holding down the VO keys. It's like a hot key for interacting when Quick Nav is on. But of course others who are using SL would be better placed to extole its virtues. Should be getting my new Mac in a few weeks along with a shiny copy of SL but I will wait a while before upgrading until all the apps i use are SL compliant . - Original Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by the blind disc...@macvisionaries.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:04 PM Subject: anyone tried quicknav? hi all has anyone yet tried quicknav in snowleopard? If so how does one interact etc, if not using the voiceover keys? WIll --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: clean install or upgrade?
I am doing an upgrade as well. On Aug 28, 2009, at 5:28 AM, Chris G wrote: Hi, I'm planning on doing an upgrade. So we will see how that goes. Chris On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 07:06:45 +0100 william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com wrote: you go to the utilities menu in the installer i think chose disc utility then erase and install. I will watch feedback over next couple months then upgrade but at present what I have is working On 28 Aug 2009, at 06:54, Jessi and Goldina wrote: I plan to do a clean install also and plan to record it too. I'm not sure if I'll spread it around, I guess it depends on how well I feel it goes, lol. this is my first time ever installing an OS on any platform though, so I thought it should be recorded haha. can someone explain the steps for doing a clean install? I'm sure it's been discussed to death but I've been away at my cabin and had about 2000 messages in my inbox so didn't pay much attention as I rapidly deleted, lol. I assume a clean install means deleting leopard and all other data? which would of course mean backing up first...I can't use time machine cuz it won't work with my external drive without me deleting everything off it and I'm so not doing that, so I plan to just copy and paste all my data and stuff over. I guess I'll lose my emails, but maybe there's some way other than time machine of archiving them before I do this? and now I'll stop rambling, I'm sure I'm not making much sense. it's time for bed and book for me. but I just wanna make sure I have all the steps in place for when the big moment comes!!! I'm pretty excited about it!! Jessi and Goldina On 27-Aug-09, at 9:55 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: I would reccomend that you do a clean install, it may take a bit more time to reinstall everything, but it's usually more reliable, certainly that's what I'm going to do, and I plan on recording mac pod cast number 10, dedicated to the install of snow leopard, so stay tuned for that. On Aug 27, 2009, at 9:17 AM, a radix wrote: Hello, i am ordering sl via the phone now. I wonder, is an upgrade (so not a totally clean install) recommended? I know it is a VERY BAD IDEA on a iwndows machine but i wonder if it is ok on a mac? I would actually like it if my current settings could be used. Greetings, Anouk -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Web Navigation Commands in VoiceOver [was Re: anyone got experience with searching for tet within a webpage]
Hi Mark, Under Leopard, VO-Command-V will take you to the next visited hyperlink and VO-Command-Shift-V to the previous visited hyperlink. I assume that Snow Leopard supports this and other features. More generally, to review the different web page navigation features in VoiceOver, bring up the VoiceOver menu (VO-F7), navigate to the Search menu (with arrow keys or by pressing S), and then right arrow to read the search menu options. You can also use the shortcut VO- Shift-F to directly bring up this menu. As a late-comer to the Leopard upgrade from Tiger, I spent some time reading through the improved navigation features listed here, especially the commands for header navigation like VO-Command-H to navigate to the next header and VO-Command-M to navigate to the next header at the same level (and the counterpart commands with the shift key added to navigate to the previous instance). Spending some time with that search menu list (VO- Shift-F) will be very helpful in speeding up your web page navigation. Also, for new list members, there's a configuration option under Safari you can check to give you more navigation options. Bring up your preferences menu (Command-comma), Interact with the Toolbar (VO- Shift-Down Arrow) and navigate to the Advanced menu button (with VO- Right arrow). Press the button (VO-Space) and VO-Right arrow to the Advanced menu pane. There's a Universal access option checkbox for Press tab to highlight each item on a web page. If it is unchecked, pressing tab just takes you to the next text box or button, while pressing option-tab highlights each element and takes you to the next link, text box, button, etc. You can switch this behavior by checking the box with VO-Space. Then Option-Tab will only navigate to the next text box or button (and skip all links), while tab takes you to the next element. This is especially useful for Tiger users who don't have access to the added web navigation features of Leopard and is easy to overlook, since its not a VoiceOver utility setting, but one found in the Safari preferences. When you're finished with the preferences menu, close the window with Command-W. Not sure how long these instructions will be valid with Snow Leopard, but they help for Leopard. Cheers, Esther Cheers, Esther Mark Baxter wrote: On related note, is there a way to navigate by visited links, on a webpage? In a certain other screen reach which shall remain shamefully nameless (but not namefully shameless), you just hit V; what's the VO equivalent, if any? Mark BurningHawk Baxter Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
quick start?
Hey all if one quits the quick start which comes up I assume, when they have installed leopard, how do they bring it up again or is this not possible? I assume voice over command f eight doesn't work since on a friends it doesnothing --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: infovox ivox beta
Hello Justin, On Aug 28, 2009, at 8:30 PM, Justin Harford wrote: Would any one here happen to have tried the infovox ivox voices with snow leopard? How do they work? They work better than ever. I've tried British English, French and French Canadian. Cheers, Anne --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: anyone tried quicknav?
Hi Will, There is a huge difference between having the VO keys locked, and using the QuickNav feature. When VO keys are locked, you do not have access to the keyboard for normal use, and you will need to hold the shift key to interact and stop interacting. With QuickNav on, you can do it all with only the arrow keys by pressing different combinations of them, and you still have full access to your keyboard for texting and commands. Also, by still only using the QuickNav keys, you can switch the rotor status and jump between different items in the same category. The rotor status can be set to heading, links, frames etc. etc. and can be fully browsed by pressing VO-U. In QuickNav, you select rotor status with arrow up plus left or right arrow. After this, you jump with the up and down arrow. For example: Press left and up arrow at the same time until you hear Heading, then down arrow until you hear the heading you want, right arrow to see what the body text sounds like, arrow down to next heading if you like etc. This was all about using it on the web, but if you are in a text document, changing the rotor switches you between words, letters and plain navigation. HOpe this helps, John André Den 28. aug. 2009 kl. 21.00 skrev william lomas: hi steve it is just like having control and option locked now though as in leopard so doubt i'd need it On 28 Aug 2009, at 17:22, Steven M. Sawczyn wrote: I've used it, you use different combinations of the arrow keys to interact, ETC... Steve On Aug 28, 2009, at 10:04 AM, william lomas wrote: hi all has anyone yet tried quicknav in snowleopard? If so how does one interact etc, if not using the voiceover keys? WIll --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: anyone tried quicknav?
Haven't tried it myself yet, but according to the review I just read: hit left and right arrows together to enable or disable quick nav, once enabled, arrow keys alone act as if VO keys are being held down, Hit down and right arrows together to interact, Hit down and left arrows together to end interaction, Hit up and down arrows together to perform the standard action on any control. If it's as well implimented as I'm hoping, I have a feeling this is how I'll be doing 80% of my navigation from now on. One handed, simple, hats off to Apple for a good idea. On 8/28/09, william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com wrote: hi all has anyone yet tried quicknav in snowleopard? If so how does one interact etc, if not using the voiceover keys? WIll --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver
Go here for at least some info and a tutorial on AppleScript http://www.macosxautomation.com/applescript/ - Original Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver are there books on apple script available to us? if so, where? On 28 Aug 2009, at 15:48, Scott Chesworth wrote: Cheers Josh, really well written review, seems to be pretty thorough. I must, must, must make it to an Apple store today. This is the excuse I've needed to buy a book on Apple Script and actually learn something. Scott On 8/28/09, Maccessibility nore...@maccessibility.net wrote: Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver We're pleased to bring you our review of Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard with VoiceOver, where Josh de Lioncourt takes a look at the latest iteration of Apple's Macintosh operating system from a VoiceOver users perspective. As always, enjoy, and feel free to comment with your own thoughts on Snow Leopard. You can read the rest of this news item at: http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/08/28/review-mac-os-x-10-6-snow-leopard-with-voiceover/ The Mac-cessibility Network ...it's all within our reach... http://maccessibility.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
how to play chm files on the machELLO, I HAVE A CHM FILE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PLAY ON THE MAC BUT IT DOESNT SEEM AS IF IT IS STANDARD SUPPORTED, ON WINDOWS I WOULD USE THE HELP VIEWER. iS THERE A PROG
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Correction about Braille tables
Hello everyone, I made a mistake about Swedish. This is another language for which we still need the Braille codes. Cheers, Anne --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: how to play chm files on the mac
There is this: http://chmox.sourceforge.net/ Moises --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
itunes
Hello, i am new to itunes, in windows i always used foobar, i had one big folder with files and i always pressed the key so that the whole fodler would be played ands huffle.d I gathered that in itunes i needed to add stuff to the library so i added a big fodler with lots of files (all the music from the eurovision song contest from 1956-2009 in mp3-format) to itunes (add to library) am i right in thinking that the files in the original fodler were copied (not deleted) tot he itunes folder and converted or what did happen? Greetings, Anouk, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
dummies guide
OK. I have two macs, a mac mini and a mac book pro, 2007 version. Sadly, I haven't gotten up the tie or nerve to fully learn mac osx, so I use them as windows pc's instead through bootcamp. I am intrigued by what I have read about snowleopard and am considering dumping the $29 per license to get it. Since I barely use the mac side of things, a full install would be fine. I know I can hold down C while booting up and boot drom the CD, I think. Does voice over come up automatically or do I have to issue the command to start it once the install starts. Can somebody give me a quick reject guide to getting this done? Also, will the macbook pro 2007 models work with the multitouch track pad features of SL? Thanks. -- Damon Fibraio screen names -- aol: dfibraio...msn dfibr...@comcast.net. skype: dfibraio Find me on facebook as Damon fibraio or twitter as dfibraio personal music site: http://www.keyboardguy.com. Band web sites: THD, http://www.thdband.com. Days Before Tomorrow, http://www.daysbeforetomorrow.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
way files are sorted on os x
Hello I am now copying over some files from my windows machine to the mac (no better way to learn the system then just using it) i am noticing though that it seems as if folders are not sorted first (in windows i first got a list of all the folders and then the files) this seems to be different on the mac, this is a bit of a problem for me sinc emy music folder consists of a fes bufrolders and about 2000 loose files (messy i know) is there a way to sort stuff so that folders are shown first? Thanks, Greetings, Anouk, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Correction about Braille tables
Hi, I think you can probably get a whole bunch of braille tables for different languages if you look at the orca project which seems to support about a zillion languages and dialects. It's all free software so you needn't worry about copyright in any traditional sense of the term. cdh On Aug 28, 2009, at 3:10 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello everyone, I made a mistake about Swedish. This is another language for which we still need the Braille codes. Cheers, Anne --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Selecting between multiple cities on the IPhone?
Hi. Thanks very much. That might also work here in Denmark. Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ On 27/08/2009, at 12.38, Thuy wrote: Hi I'm in the UK, and it seems to work OK for me. Not sure how accurate the yahoo weather is though? It always seems to be a couple of degrees lower than the BBC and the actual temperatures. I might try and see if you can change the weather centre information that it uses? Ideas anyone? On 26/08/2009, Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk wrote: Does this widget only works in the US? Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ On 26/08/2009, at 15.10, Thuy wrote: Hey Vic. You need to do a three finger swipe left or right to go through the pages that display each city. Hope this helps? Thuy On 26/08/2009, Victor Tsaran vtsa...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I am sorry for asking this silly question, but I can't figure out how to switch between multiple cities in the weather widget on the IPhone. I've added several of them but can only access the last one. I've tried all the gestures I could think of, but nothing works. Thanks for any advice. Vic --- I tweet about music and accessibility at http://www.twitter.com/ vick08 or check my site at http://www.victortsaran.com --- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: anyone got experience with searching for tet within a webpage
Great; just another thing to drool about until I get the new kitten. First, I gotta get a new litterbox. :) Mark BurningHawk Baxter Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: quick start?
Hi Will, On Leopard you can also access the VoiceOver Quick Start from the Help menu of the VoiceOver menu. Does that work? VO-F7 to bring up the VoiceOver menu, navigate to Help and right arrow to the submenu. The VoiceOver Quick Start is one of those entries, as well as another entry to help you learn sounds, etc, Cheers, Esther william lomas wrote: Hey all if one quits the quick start which comes up I assume, when they have installed leopard, how do they bring it up again or is this not possible? I assume voice over command f eight doesn't work since on a friends it doesnothing --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: itunes
Hi Anouk, I believe the default behavior is to copy the music to your iTunes music folder. You can change it so that shortcuts are made to the songs, but new copies aren't made if you want in the Advanced tab in the Preferences dialog box. HTH, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: anyone got experience with searching for tet within a webpage
Ah yes, the obvious keystroke that would be the one that I miss. :) Thanks much. Mark BurningHawk Baxter Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
