Re: adding a label on radio/button/list/etc
how do you send your settings to other vo users? why is it that no one will answer this question? this is starting to frustrate me. - Original Message - From: Portia portia.sc...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 7:35 PM Subject: RE: adding a label on radio/button/list/etc To label things, press VO-/ Brightest blessings, Portia. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Yuma Antoine Decaux Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 4:00 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: adding a label on radio/button/list/etc Hi list, Each time i find out about an inaccessible application, i actually take the time to check the help topics and figure the interface out. In this case, i'm checking the oomniplan gant chart maker. I wanted to know what the command or sequence was to create your own labels on unlabelled elements. Has anyone done that and found their productivity increase exponentially? Does anyone have that for garage band? Ok i digress, maybe let's start with the actual labelling part Can anyone help? thanks and best Yuma --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
still cant scan
hi with my lide sixty scanner voice over still cant not click the Scan button when that popup dialogue opens when I click acquire document. I wish could get round this. I guess i'd have the same problems wtih u scan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
scan and read mac pac trial?
hello where can I get the scan and read app trial? I know its in a mac pack I can't find trial only trial I see is windows I refuse to pay 249.00 for a ap I haven't tried first a instant turn off so can any one help me find a demo for mac trial usage? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: adding a label on radio/button/list/etc
If it's frostrating you, why do you not read the Voiceover manual? You can choose what preferences you wanna export from the popup button in the save dialog. I did a quick Google search, and find the information in the Voiceover manual on Apples website. Here is the link: http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/_1136.html Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ On Oct 10, 2009, at 9:25 AM, hank smith wrote: how do you send your settings to other vo users? why is it that no one will answer this question? this is starting to frustrate me. - Original Message - From: Portia portia.sc...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 7:35 PM Subject: RE: adding a label on radio/button/list/etc To label things, press VO-/ Brightest blessings, Portia. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Yuma Antoine Decaux Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 4:00 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: adding a label on radio/button/list/etc Hi list, Each time i find out about an inaccessible application, i actually take the time to check the help topics and figure the interface out. In this case, i'm checking the oomniplan gant chart maker. I wanted to know what the command or sequence was to create your own labels on unlabelled elements. Has anyone done that and found their productivity increase exponentially? Does anyone have that for garage band? Ok i digress, maybe let's start with the actual labelling part Can anyone help? thanks and best Yuma --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
A website where we could upload labels?
Hi. It would be really awesome if someone would make a website, where we could share our lable files to Voiceover. I could of course make that kind of website, but to avoid having tons of different websites, it would be nice to have all that kind of stuff on the maccessibility website. What do you all think? I haven't started to lable any unlabled buttons yet, but I will if we could share it on a website with other Voiceover users. The first thing I would lable is the unlabled buttons in Java when you set it up for the first time. What do you all think? Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: adding a label on radio/button/list/etc
I didn't know this manual was available yet I will give this a read thanks for the info - Original Message - From: Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 1:04 AM Subject: Re: adding a label on radio/button/list/etc If it's frostrating you, why do you not read the Voiceover manual? You can choose what preferences you wanna export from the popup button in the save dialog. I did a quick Google search, and find the information in the Voiceover manual on Apples website. Here is the link: http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/_1136.html Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ On Oct 10, 2009, at 9:25 AM, hank smith wrote: how do you send your settings to other vo users? why is it that no one will answer this question? this is starting to frustrate me. - Original Message - From: Portia portia.sc...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 7:35 PM Subject: RE: adding a label on radio/button/list/etc To label things, press VO-/ Brightest blessings, Portia. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Yuma Antoine Decaux Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 4:00 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: adding a label on radio/button/list/etc Hi list, Each time i find out about an inaccessible application, i actually take the time to check the help topics and figure the interface out. In this case, i'm checking the oomniplan gant chart maker. I wanted to know what the command or sequence was to create your own labels on unlabelled elements. Has anyone done that and found their productivity increase exponentially? Does anyone have that for garage band? Ok i digress, maybe let's start with the actual labelling part Can anyone help? thanks and best Yuma --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A website where we could upload labels?
think that is a good idea what does josh think of mac accessibility? I think that would be a good iddission - Original Message - From: Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 1:12 AM Subject: A website where we could upload labels? Hi. It would be really awesome if someone would make a website, where we could share our lable files to Voiceover. I could of course make that kind of website, but to avoid having tons of different websites, it would be nice to have all that kind of stuff on the maccessibility website. What do you all think? I haven't started to lable any unlabled buttons yet, but I will if we could share it on a website with other Voiceover users. The first thing I would lable is the unlabled buttons in Java when you set it up for the first time. What do you all think? Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: still cant scan
Hello Will, I assume you're using Readiris? With VueScan, you don't need to be able to access the Canon software, it handles all that for you. My Canon Lide 700F works best with VueScan if I don't install any of the Canon software. Cheers, Anne On Oct 10, 2009, at 9:35 AM, william lomas wrote: hi with my lide sixty scanner voice over still cant not click the Scan button when that popup dialogue opens when I click acquire document. I wish could get round this. I guess i'd have the same problems wtih u scan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Questions on how to navigate on the Iphone
Hi. I'm really sorry to go of topic here, but I haven't received any mails from the Iphone list for a very long time, and since people are asking Iphone questions on this list, I hope it's okay to ask here... I think I've heard all Iphone/ipod touch podcasts which has been made, but I still have some questions which doesn't seems to have ben answred. I might have missed something. Well, here are my questions: 1: What is the difference between the drack gesture and the flicking gesture? I know how the flicking gesture works. I've tried it in the gestures practise on a Iphone last week. I'm asking because I don't wanna drack icons around on the screen by accident. So how would I know when I'm just using the flicking gesture and when I'm dracking an icon? 2: How do I navigate in a listbox? For example if I wanna go through a list of mails in the mail application, how do I go through this list? Do I have to find the top of the list with my finger, then lift my finger from the screen, move it down a bit and then touch again to select the next mail in the list? Or can I just flick to the right? I assume all items like my mailboxes, buttons etc will be read if I flick to the right, so that's the reason for I'm asking on how to navigate in listboxes. 3: If I don't know where the icons and other items are physically placed on the screen, will the flicking gesture find all kind of items? Or do I have to search for items on the screen to make sure I've read all the information on the screen? I haven't got my Iphone yet, but I might get it next week. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A website where we could upload labels?
Yeah. I really hope so. The great thing about importing and exporting things is that if you're going to import any labels, it will just add the labels you don't have already which means your old labels won't be deleted. It's a kind of syncronizing. That's what the manual says. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ On Oct 10, 2009, at 10:24 AM, hank smith wrote: think that is a good idea what does josh think of mac accessibility? I think that would be a good iddission - Original Message - From: Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 1:12 AM Subject: A website where we could upload labels? Hi. It would be really awesome if someone would make a website, where we could share our lable files to Voiceover. I could of course make that kind of website, but to avoid having tons of different websites, it would be nice to have all that kind of stuff on the maccessibility website. What do you all think? I haven't started to lable any unlabled buttons yet, but I will if we could share it on a website with other Voiceover users. The first thing I would lable is the unlabled buttons in Java when you set it up for the first time. What do you all think? Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Questions on how to navigate on the Iphone
Which IPhone list are you subscribed to? I'm on one and the list is very active. On 10-Oct-09, at 2:53 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: Hi. I'm really sorry to go of topic here, but I haven't received any mails from the Iphone list for a very long time, and since people are asking Iphone questions on this list, I hope it's okay to ask here... I think I've heard all Iphone/ipod touch podcasts which has been made, but I still have some questions which doesn't seems to have ben answred. I might have missed something. Well, here are my questions: 1: What is the difference between the drack gesture and the flicking gesture? I know how the flicking gesture works. I've tried it in the gestures practise on a Iphone last week. I'm asking because I don't wanna drack icons around on the screen by accident. So how would I know when I'm just using the flicking gesture and when I'm dracking an icon? 2: How do I navigate in a listbox? For example if I wanna go through a list of mails in the mail application, how do I go through this list? Do I have to find the top of the list with my finger, then lift my finger from the screen, move it down a bit and then touch again to select the next mail in the list? Or can I just flick to the right? I assume all items like my mailboxes, buttons etc will be read if I flick to the right, so that's the reason for I'm asking on how to navigate in listboxes. 3: If I don't know where the icons and other items are physically placed on the screen, will the flicking gesture find all kind of items? Or do I have to search for items on the screen to make sure I've read all the information on the screen? I haven't got my Iphone yet, but I might get it next week. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Questions on how to navigate on the Iphone
I'm on the Viphone list I think it's called. I haven't unsubscribed myself, but I might have ben unsubscribed for some reason. What's the address to the list and how do I subscribe to it again? Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ On Oct 10, 2009, at 12:08 PM, May McDonald wrote: Which IPhone list are you subscribed to? I'm on one and the list is very active. On 10-Oct-09, at 2:53 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: Hi. I'm really sorry to go of topic here, but I haven't received any mails from the Iphone list for a very long time, and since people are asking Iphone questions on this list, I hope it's okay to ask here... I think I've heard all Iphone/ipod touch podcasts which has been made, but I still have some questions which doesn't seems to have ben answred. I might have missed something. Well, here are my questions: 1: What is the difference between the drack gesture and the flicking gesture? I know how the flicking gesture works. I've tried it in the gestures practise on a Iphone last week. I'm asking because I don't wanna drack icons around on the screen by accident. So how would I know when I'm just using the flicking gesture and when I'm dracking an icon? 2: How do I navigate in a listbox? For example if I wanna go through a list of mails in the mail application, how do I go through this list? Do I have to find the top of the list with my finger, then lift my finger from the screen, move it down a bit and then touch again to select the next mail in the list? Or can I just flick to the right? I assume all items like my mailboxes, buttons etc will be read if I flick to the right, so that's the reason for I'm asking on how to navigate in listboxes. 3: If I don't know where the icons and other items are physically placed on the screen, will the flicking gesture find all kind of items? Or do I have to search for items on the screen to make sure I've read all the information on the screen? I haven't got my Iphone yet, but I might get it next week. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Thunderbird for the Mac?
Hi, I wonder if Thunderbird will be accessible since it uses Gecko and not Webkit to render its content, at least it was like that before. /Krister 9 okt 2009 kl. 23.16 skrev Jim Fettgather: Hi. Has anyone been successful installing the Thunderbird email program with Snow Lepoard? I tried to open the Thunderbird DMG file, and it appeared as if even the install process was not accessible, although, I could have been doing something incorrectly. Any prior experiences with Thunderbird or correct procedures for installation will be highly appreciated, and thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Thunderbird for the Mac?
Well apparently, FireFox will be acessible by the end of the year, so hopefully that will include Thunderbird. Take care - Original Message - From: Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:33 AM Subject: Re: Thunderbird for the Mac? Hi, I wonder if Thunderbird will be accessible since it uses Gecko and not Webkit to render its content, at least it was like that before. /Krister 9 okt 2009 kl. 23.16 skrev Jim Fettgather: Hi. Has anyone been successful installing the Thunderbird email program with Snow Lepoard? I tried to open the Thunderbird DMG file, and it appeared as if even the install process was not accessible, although, I could have been doing something incorrectly. Any prior experiences with Thunderbird or correct procedures for installation will be highly appreciated, and thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Questions on how to navigate on the Iphone
Hi Soren, I moderate the aiphone list. It's fairly active, and has some great folks on it. If you're interested, you can join by sending an email to: aiphone-subsr...@yahoogroups.com Best, Donna On Oct 10, 2009, at 6:14 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: I'm on the Viphone list I think it's called. I haven't unsubscribed myself, but I might have ben unsubscribed for some reason. What's the address to the list and how do I subscribe to it again? Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ On Oct 10, 2009, at 12:08 PM, May McDonald wrote: Which IPhone list are you subscribed to? I'm on one and the list is very active. On 10-Oct-09, at 2:53 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: Hi. I'm really sorry to go of topic here, but I haven't received any mails from the Iphone list for a very long time, and since people are asking Iphone questions on this list, I hope it's okay to ask here... I think I've heard all Iphone/ipod touch podcasts which has been made, but I still have some questions which doesn't seems to have ben answred. I might have missed something. Well, here are my questions: 1: What is the difference between the drack gesture and the flicking gesture? I know how the flicking gesture works. I've tried it in the gestures practise on a Iphone last week. I'm asking because I don't wanna drack icons around on the screen by accident. So how would I know when I'm just using the flicking gesture and when I'm dracking an icon? 2: How do I navigate in a listbox? For example if I wanna go through a list of mails in the mail application, how do I go through this list? Do I have to find the top of the list with my finger, then lift my finger from the screen, move it down a bit and then touch again to select the next mail in the list? Or can I just flick to the right? I assume all items like my mailboxes, buttons etc will be read if I flick to the right, so that's the reason for I'm asking on how to navigate in listboxes. 3: If I don't know where the icons and other items are physically placed on the screen, will the flicking gesture find all kind of items? Or do I have to search for items on the screen to make sure I've read all the information on the screen? I haven't got my Iphone yet, but I might get it next week. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Time stretching in dj3?
Hi all, How the heck do I time stretch, increase or decrease the tempo of a song without altering pitch in dj3? I tried holding the control key while pressing 3, as the keyboard shortcut said to do, but I always get the pitch adjusted as well, which is what I don't want. Thanks for any help. Jes --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Time stretching in dj3?
Hi all, How the heck do I time stretch, increase or decrease the tempo of a song without altering pitch in dj3? I tried holding the control key while pressing 3, as the keyboard shortcut said to do, but I always get the pitch adjusted as well, which is what I don't want. Thanks for any help. Jes --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iPhone like KNFB?
The camera on the iPhone is not powerful enough to do O/CR. - Original Message - From: Ryan Dour To: MacVisionaries Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 3:49 PM Subject: iPhone like KNFB? Hello, What apps could be added to an iPhone at this point to provide similar functionality to a KNFB phone? The key featuresthat could help are: * OCR of documents, signs, product boxes, etc. * Talking pedestrian directions such as You are approaching the corner of North Michigan Avenue and East Heron. When you get to the corner, Turn right. and in a few more feet Continue to the next corner, St. Claire and E Heron. * Color detection, providing reasonably good color matching or description. * Barcode reader with the ability to detect the barcode anywhere in the picture frame, not just across a red line on the screen that makes use difficult when you're only sure of the general location of the code. Ability to pair with external BlueTooth barcode scanner as an alternative could be sweet. * Talking compass, something very similar to the built-in feature, but with names of directions quickly spoken. Here's the great part, some of the apps exist, but don't offer full functionality. * A Voice Compass - Literally a talking compass with great accuracy. It even cuts itself off if you turn it really fast, listen to the directions in an audio blur if you so choose. * Around Me - Great for POI, but that's where the fun ends. Also, great for getting phone numbers to places quickly. * Maps - Great for finding out where you are, and general directions. However, no warnings about distance as you move. I've found apps that offer functionality beyond the typical blindness offerings that make life just sweet. For me, local apps can be fantastic: * CTA Tracker - Easily the most accessible CTA tracking app. If you live in Chicago, this app provides complete details of busses at your local bus stops. Find a bus, wait for it to pull up and announce itself, then track your way to your destination with time estimates. Simply awesome for commuting. If you leave the VO cursor on the next stop in the list, and turn Auto Lock off, VO will announce the stop the bus is approaching once a minute. Turn on your iPod, and let VO be the Dj telling you where you're at as you travel without having to keep one ear open for the bus PA system. * Chipotle - Order some yummy food while you're on your way home. You can put together your order, choose toppings, sides, and a drink. You can then place a note on the order to let the great staff know you're blind, and to look out for ya when you get there. It has been a really amazing experience using this app. My reason, sometimes the restaurant is so loud that the staff start simply pointing at the toppings and looking for feedback from the customer. When you try and explain that you're blind, they don't speak up enough, or it really throws them off and they start missing toppings. Using this app, you get exactly what you wanted without the confusion of the Chipotle assembly line. Even better, your credit card never comes out of your wallet. I've got many other apps, but these are some that I've used in the last few days. They provide me with tools that enrich my life. There are others out there I know I'm missing, as the app store is the hottest most crowded marketplace for software I've ever seen. If anyone else has ideas for apps that make the iPhone specifically a brilliant tool for a blind user, please let us all know. Beyond the Twitter and Facebook apps we all love, I'm looking for apps that help enhance real life activities happening in the real world. Thanks, Ryan Dour --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: adding a label on radio/button/list/etc
From what I understand, you can save your settings to a thumb drive. If you can find the file once it's saved, it further makes sense that you can send that file in an e-mail to someone else. Could someone confirm this? Kevin -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of hank smith Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 2:26 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: adding a label on radio/button/list/etc how do you send your settings to other vo users? why is it that no one will answer this question? this is starting to frustrate me. - Original Message - From: Portia portia.sc...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 7:35 PM Subject: RE: adding a label on radio/button/list/etc To label things, press VO-/ Brightest blessings, Portia. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Yuma Antoine Decaux Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 4:00 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: adding a label on radio/button/list/etc Hi list, Each time i find out about an inaccessible application, i actually take the time to check the help topics and figure the interface out. In this case, i'm checking the oomniplan gant chart maker. I wanted to know what the command or sequence was to create your own labels on unlabelled elements. Has anyone done that and found their productivity increase exponentially? Does anyone have that for garage band? Ok i digress, maybe let's start with the actual labelling part Can anyone help? thanks and best Yuma --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Questions on how to navigate on the Iphone
It's viphone-subscr...@googlegroups.com On 10-Oct-09, at 3:14 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: I'm on the Viphone list I think it's called. I haven't unsubscribed myself, but I might have ben unsubscribed for some reason. What's the address to the list and how do I subscribe to it again? Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ On Oct 10, 2009, at 12:08 PM, May McDonald wrote: Which IPhone list are you subscribed to? I'm on one and the list is very active. On 10-Oct-09, at 2:53 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: Hi. I'm really sorry to go of topic here, but I haven't received any mails from the Iphone list for a very long time, and since people are asking Iphone questions on this list, I hope it's okay to ask here... I think I've heard all Iphone/ipod touch podcasts which has been made, but I still have some questions which doesn't seems to have ben answred. I might have missed something. Well, here are my questions: 1: What is the difference between the drack gesture and the flicking gesture? I know how the flicking gesture works. I've tried it in the gestures practise on a Iphone last week. I'm asking because I don't wanna drack icons around on the screen by accident. So how would I know when I'm just using the flicking gesture and when I'm dracking an icon? 2: How do I navigate in a listbox? For example if I wanna go through a list of mails in the mail application, how do I go through this list? Do I have to find the top of the list with my finger, then lift my finger from the screen, move it down a bit and then touch again to select the next mail in the list? Or can I just flick to the right? I assume all items like my mailboxes, buttons etc will be read if I flick to the right, so that's the reason for I'm asking on how to navigate in listboxes. 3: If I don't know where the icons and other items are physically placed on the screen, will the flicking gesture find all kind of items? Or do I have to search for items on the screen to make sure I've read all the information on the screen? I haven't got my Iphone yet, but I might get it next week. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: adding a label on radio/button/list/etc
Hi, Yes, that is indeed correct. Here are the steps: 1) Go to the VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8), and hit Command-Shift-E for Export. 2) Enter a file name for the file you want to save, obviously keeping the file format intact. 3) Choose where you would like to save it. Any folder or drive seems to be ok. 4) Go to the Export popup, and choose the preferences you would like to export then proceed. To import specific preferences, going to the file you saved and hitting Command-O seems to do the trick. When the file opens, you will be told what VoiceOver will import. Simply hit OK, and it should be done. You can also do this by entering the VoiceOver Utility and hitting Command-Shift-I for Import. Happy Exporting! Regards, Nic On Oct 10, 2009, at 7:35 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: From what I understand, you can save your settings to a thumb drive. If you can find the file once it's saved, it further makes sense that you can send that file in an e-mail to someone else. Could someone confirm this? Kevin -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of hank smith Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 2:26 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: adding a label on radio/button/list/etc how do you send your settings to other vo users? why is it that no one will answer this question? this is starting to frustrate me. - Original Message - From: Portia portia.sc...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 7:35 PM Subject: RE: adding a label on radio/button/list/etc To label things, press VO-/ Brightest blessings, Portia. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Yuma Antoine Decaux Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 4:00 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: adding a label on radio/button/list/etc Hi list, Each time i find out about an inaccessible application, i actually take the time to check the help topics and figure the interface out. In this case, i'm checking the oomniplan gant chart maker. I wanted to know what the command or sequence was to create your own labels on unlabelled elements. Has anyone done that and found their productivity increase exponentially? Does anyone have that for garage band? Ok i digress, maybe let's start with the actual labelling part Can anyone help? thanks and best Yuma --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
voice over bug report web site url
To what url do I send voice over bug reports to? Thanks, RJ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Navigating the iPhone and joining the Viphone list [was Re: Questions on how to navigate on the Iphone]
Hi Søren, You wrote: I'm on the Viphone list I think it's called. I haven't unsubscribed myself, but I might have ben unsubscribed for some reason. What's the address to the list and how do I subscribe to it again? At one point I think you could simply send a message to subscribe, but this got changed and you now have to go to the Viphone web page and request an invitation according to an earlier post from Cara: begin quote Actually anyone whom would like to sub to the list will need to request an invite from the list's main page at: http://groups.google.com/group/VIPhone This is done so that potential new members can be screened to avoid spam issues. end quote You can also go to the web page and read the posts without joining. Unfortunately, the viphone list isn't set up to be archived at the Mail Archive site, which provides an easier reading and searching interface. I'll try to answer your questions. (Responses follow excerpted queries). I have an iPod Touch, but the gestures used are the same as for the iPhone. 1: What is the difference between the drack gesture and the flicking gesture? I know how the flicking gesture works. I've tried it in the gestures practise on a Iphone last week. I'm asking because I don't wanna drack icons around on the screen by accident. So how would I know when I'm just using the flicking gesture and when I'm dracking an icon? Flicking is a very quick gesture where your finger is only in brief contact with the screen. It's actually difficult to drag icons around the screen by accident because you first need to execute a pass- through gesture (double-tap and hold) before you can drag the icon and also because VoiceOver will announce moving icon -- where the name of the actual icon gets announced, like moving Mail or moving Maps. If you actually do move the icon VoiceOver will tell you the row and column you're in, and until you lift your finger from the screen the position doesn't get changed. If you get confused, or want to stop, just move your finger to drag the icon back to where you started, lift your finger from the screen, and click the home key to get out of the mode in which icons can be moved. (This will also take you back to the home screen in case you were moving icons on another page of applications.) The OS 3.1 update added a gesture practice area under Settings General Accessibility VoiceOver where if you double tap the Practice VoiceOver Gestures button you'll be taken to a screen where VoiceOver announces the gestures you've used and their function -- kind of like a gesture-based keyboard practice mode. If you flick, you might hear flick right, move to next item; or if you issue the pass- through gesture, you'd hear double-tap and hold, drags the item. (The only thing is, you won't hear the small burbly noise that is played when you correctly perform a pass-through gesture of double-tap and hold.) 2: How do I navigate in a listbox? For example if I wanna go through a list of mails in the mail application, how do I go through this list? Do I have to find the top of the list with my finger, then lift my finger from the screen, move it down a bit and then touch again to select the next mail in the list? Or can I just flick to the right? I assume all items like my mailboxes, buttons etc will be read if I flick to the right, so that's the reason for I'm asking on how to navigate in listboxes. When reading mail in your Inbox you can use buttons for previous mail and next mail to go through your messages. (What's a bit odd is that the latest message is at the top of the list, so if you start further down the list at your first unread message you end up tapping the previous message button to move through mail, and I haven't found a way to change sort order.) If you start from a listbox you can navigate either by selecting individual items by touch or by using gestures to move through items or pages. For example, you can do a two-finger upward flick to read all on the page, and you will hear not only the buttons at the top of the page, but also the list of mail with sender, time, and subject. This will read through the list including scrolling, and you can stop with a two-finger tap. You could also touch the center of the screen (probably close to where you stopped the list reading) and move your finger up or down and have the entries read to you, then double-tap on a specific message that you want to open for reading. Or, if your touch had brought focus to a specific message in the list, you could flick right to move focus to the next item in the list. I find that I'm more likely to simply move my finger up and the down in contact with the screen for lists than to flick, since the announcements and focus just change with the position of my finger. The way that I open list selections also differs according
Re: voice over bug report web site url
Hi Rhonda, You could send a mail message to accessibil...@mac.com of bugs that you encounter. Rhonda Hornbacher wrote: To what url do I send voice over bug reports to? Cheers, Esther --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Reading PDF Files with Preview
Hi, are their specific settings that need to be set in Preview prior to reading pdf documents? My file comes up in outline view and I can tab to the table of Contents, highlight a topic and read the first page. I then have to tab to the Next Page Button and then Shift-Tab back to read that page. I'm using a MacBook Pro, and can not activate the Page Down key which I believe is Ctrl-Option FN Key down arrow. Any help appreciated. Les --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Reading PDF Files with Preview
Hi, My VoiceOver autoscrolls, but if I select from the table, it goes back to the first ever chapter, the contents. That is, if you read it with the VoiceOver keys without having everything read at once. Somehow, though, I managed to stop VoiceOver from autoscrolling and I can't exactly remember how. All I know is, it's really annoying, now that it isn't doing it. Regards, Nic On Oct 10, 2009, at 10:56 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: Hi, are their specific settings that need to be set in Preview prior to reading pdf documents? My file comes up in outline view and I can tab to the table of Contents, highlight a topic and read the first page. I then have to tab to the Next Page Button and then Shift-Tab back to read that page. I'm using a MacBook Pro, and can not activate the Page Down key which I believe is Ctrl-Option FN Key down arrow. Any help appreciated. Les Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook: Profile Twitter: http://twitter.com/chojiro --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Reading PDF Files with Preview
Hi, *chuckles* Oops. Well, that was my fault. I had accidentally set PDF display to Single Page, not SIngle Page COntinuous. My submenus are sometimes acting up a bit. Regards, Nic On Oct 10, 2009, at 11:54 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, My VoiceOver autoscrolls, but if I select from the table, it goes back to the first ever chapter, the contents. That is, if you read it with the VoiceOver keys without having everything read at once. Somehow, though, I managed to stop VoiceOver from autoscrolling and I can't exactly remember how. All I know is, it's really annoying, now that it isn't doing it. Regards, Nic On Oct 10, 2009, at 10:56 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: Hi, are their specific settings that need to be set in Preview prior to reading pdf documents? My file comes up in outline view and I can tab to the table of Contents, highlight a topic and read the first page. I then have to tab to the Next Page Button and then Shift-Tab back to read that page. I'm using a MacBook Pro, and can not activate the Page Down key which I believe is Ctrl-Option FN Key down arrow. Any help appreciated. Les Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook: Profile Twitter: http://twitter.com/chojiro --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Navigating the iPhone and joining the Viphone list [was Re: Questions on how to navigate on the Iphone]
Hi esther. Thanks so much for taking your time to answer my questions since they are off topic for this list. Your answers are very helpful. I've now joined the Viphone list again so I won't ask any Iphone questions here anmore. I'm really sorry for this... Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ On Oct 10, 2009, at 10:40 PM, Esther wrote: Hi Søren, You wrote: I'm on the Viphone list I think it's called. I haven't unsubscribed myself, but I might have ben unsubscribed for some reason. What's the address to the list and how do I subscribe to it again? At one point I think you could simply send a message to subscribe, but this got changed and you now have to go to the Viphone web page and request an invitation according to an earlier post from Cara: begin quote Actually anyone whom would like to sub to the list will need to request an invite from the list's main page at: http://groups.google.com/group/VIPhone This is done so that potential new members can be screened to avoid spam issues. end quote You can also go to the web page and read the posts without joining. Unfortunately, the viphone list isn't set up to be archived at the Mail Archive site, which provides an easier reading and searching interface. I'll try to answer your questions. (Responses follow excerpted queries). I have an iPod Touch, but the gestures used are the same as for the iPhone. 1: What is the difference between the drack gesture and the flicking gesture? I know how the flicking gesture works. I've tried it in the gestures practise on a Iphone last week. I'm asking because I don't wanna drack icons around on the screen by accident. So how would I know when I'm just using the flicking gesture and when I'm dracking an icon? Flicking is a very quick gesture where your finger is only in brief contact with the screen. It's actually difficult to drag icons around the screen by accident because you first need to execute a pass- through gesture (double-tap and hold) before you can drag the icon and also because VoiceOver will announce moving icon -- where the name of the actual icon gets announced, like moving Mail or moving Maps. If you actually do move the icon VoiceOver will tell you the row and column you're in, and until you lift your finger from the screen the position doesn't get changed. If you get confused, or want to stop, just move your finger to drag the icon back to where you started, lift your finger from the screen, and click the home key to get out of the mode in which icons can be moved. (This will also take you back to the home screen in case you were moving icons on another page of applications.) The OS 3.1 update added a gesture practice area under Settings General Accessibility VoiceOver where if you double tap the Practice VoiceOver Gestures button you'll be taken to a screen where VoiceOver announces the gestures you've used and their function -- kind of like a gesture-based keyboard practice mode. If you flick, you might hear flick right, move to next item; or if you issue the pass- through gesture, you'd hear double-tap and hold, drags the item. (The only thing is, you won't hear the small burbly noise that is played when you correctly perform a pass-through gesture of double-tap and hold.) 2: How do I navigate in a listbox? For example if I wanna go through a list of mails in the mail application, how do I go through this list? Do I have to find the top of the list with my finger, then lift my finger from the screen, move it down a bit and then touch again to select the next mail in the list? Or can I just flick to the right? I assume all items like my mailboxes, buttons etc will be read if I flick to the right, so that's the reason for I'm asking on how to navigate in listboxes. When reading mail in your Inbox you can use buttons for previous mail and next mail to go through your messages. (What's a bit odd is that the latest message is at the top of the list, so if you start further down the list at your first unread message you end up tapping the previous message button to move through mail, and I haven't found a way to change sort order.) If you start from a listbox you can navigate either by selecting individual items by touch or by using gestures to move through items or pages. For example, you can do a two-finger upward flick to read all on the page, and you will hear not only the buttons at the top of the page, but also the list of mail with sender, time, and subject. This will read through the list including scrolling, and you can stop with a two-finger tap. You could also touch the center of the screen (probably close to where you stopped the list reading) and move your finger up or down and have the entries read to you, then double-tap on a specific message that you want to open for reading. Or, if your touch had
Changing Instruments in Garage Band
Hello, I was wondering if anyone could give me a pointer on changing instruments in Garage Band? I am using Snow Leopard and the software instrument option. I am able to select the different checkboxes for instrument types and then interact with a table that lists items within a category. But no matter what I seem to have selected, all I get used when I use the keyboard is a basic piano sound. I've downloaded an update that says it has all the updated instruments and loops. Also, how do you read the keyboard shortcuts and help in this app? They don't seem to read for me with VO. I've read through some tutorials and such and am generally able to get around the app. Kelly --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
