Re: deleting apps from mac?

2011-06-10 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

press command backspace on the app to send it to the trash.  Then, press 
command shift backspace to empty the trash.

Ricardo Walker
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On Jun 10, 2011, at 1:38 AM, KliphSharrie wrote:

 So How do I get rid of an app that I no longer want or need?  Also, how would 
 I get my music in to Itunes from my music folder.  Be nice, I'm coming from 
 windows cold turkey.
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Re: muted speech toggle

2011-06-10 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Jeff,

There isn't a keyboard command for this, but you can create one using the 
Keyboard commander.

Cheers,

Anne

On Jun 10, 2011, at 3:23 AM, Jeff Bishop wrote:

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 Can someone tell me the VO command to turn speech back on if it is muted?
 The trackpad is simple enough to do it but I am looking for the keyboard
 command.
 
 Thanks everyone.
 
 
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VueScan working great for OCR

2011-06-10 Thread Anne Robertson
I've been in contact with Ed Hamrick, the developer of VueScan. The latest 
version of VueScan now works great. I just had to press Cmd-N to produce a 
beautiful RTF file of an article from New SCientist magazine.

I haven't yet got the RTF file to open automatically, but I'm working on it.

As far as I'm concerned, this is the simplest OCR solution on the Mac so far.

You can download VueScan from:
http://www.hamrick.com/

There are two Mac versions, 32 bit and 64 bit. I tested the 64 bit version.

Cheers,

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Re: VueScan working great for OCR

2011-06-10 Thread Søren Jensen
Hi.
Thanks for the info. Does it still only support english OCR?
Best regards:
Søren Jensen
Mail  MSN:
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Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

Den 10/06/2011 kl. 09.09 skrev Anne Robertson:

 I've been in contact with Ed Hamrick, the developer of VueScan. The latest 
 version of VueScan now works great. I just had to press Cmd-N to produce a 
 beautiful RTF file of an article from New SCientist magazine.
 
 I haven't yet got the RTF file to open automatically, but I'm working on it.
 
 As far as I'm concerned, this is the simplest OCR solution on the Mac so far.
 
 You can download VueScan from:
 http://www.hamrick.com/
 
 There are two Mac versions, 32 bit and 64 bit. I tested the 64 bit version.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
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Re: VueScan working great for OCR

2011-06-10 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello søren,

VueScan now supports 29 languages. I wouldn't be interested if it only 
supported English. That's what makes DocuScan a complete non-starter for me.

It even supports Chinese, Japanese and Korean, not to mention all the European 
languages I can think of.

Cheers,

Anne

On Jun 10, 2011, at 9:17 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:

 Hi.
 Thanks for the info. Does it still only support english OCR?
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
 
 Den 10/06/2011 kl. 09.09 skrev Anne Robertson:
 
 I've been in contact with Ed Hamrick, the developer of VueScan. The latest 
 version of VueScan now works great. I just had to press Cmd-N to produce a 
 beautiful RTF file of an article from New SCientist magazine.
 
 I haven't yet got the RTF file to open automatically, but I'm working on it.
 
 As far as I'm concerned, this is the simplest OCR solution on the Mac so far.
 
 You can download VueScan from:
 http://www.hamrick.com/
 
 There are two Mac versions, 32 bit and 64 bit. I tested the 64 bit version.
 
 Cheers,
 
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VueScan settings

2011-06-10 Thread Anne Robertson
Below are the settings for VueScan.

Cheers,

Anne


1) Select Input;
1.1) Task: Scan to file;
1.2) Source: Your scanner;
1.3) Media: Text;
1.4) Media size: Auto;
1.5) Preview resolution: 300 dpi;
1.6) Scan resolution: 300 dpi;
2) Select Output;
2.1) Default folder: Folder you have created for this purpose;
2.2) Printed size: Scan size;
2.3) TIFF file: unchecked check box;
2.4) JPEG file: unchecked check box;
2.5) PDF file: unchecked check box;
2.6) OCR text file: checked check box;
2.7) OCR text file name: Name for document being scanned;
2.8) OCR text multi page: check or uncheck as needed;
2.9) Raw file: unchecked check box;
3) Select Prefs;
3.1) Language: Choose your language out of the 29 available;
3.2) Font size (pt): 16;
3.3 Crop units: mm;
3.4) Printed units: mm;
3.5 External viewer: unchecked check box;
3.6) External editor: checked check box;
3.7) Editor: TextEdit.

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iMac 27in Late 2010 model for sale

2011-06-10 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
Dear All,

A quick note, firstly, please do not reply on list, be it to ask a question 
etc, as its not the place for such things. if you'd like to know more, please 
drop me a line to for...@talknav.com, with iMac in the subject line.

as many of you will know I made the switch to Mac back in October last year, 
and have been a delighted convert since... I now own an Imac, MacBook Air and 
MacMini.

I'm looking to sell my iMac to upgrade to the version with the SSD and as such 
would like to know if anyone is interested in the below.

one little thing to note, I'm in the UK, and whilst I'm happy to talk with 
anyone overseas about buying this from me, you should note that international 
shipping costs are likely to add up to £100 US$180 to anything we agree, this 
is a rough estimate, but worth noting. Apple do sell with international 
warranties and as such, the Apple Care goes with the machine anywhere, to 
anyone who might buy this.

So here's the juicy specification of my beast.

iMac 27in (Late 2010 model)
2.93 GHz Intel Core i7
4 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
1Tb SATA 7,200rpm hard drive,
standard HD graphics card for the 27in iMac of the late 2010 models.
Magic Mouse,
Wireless Keyboard (British English)
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If you require further statistics or info please as I say feel free to e-mail 
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I have not got in my mind yet a figure for how much I will sell it for, but am 
open to offers. The machine retailed at £1,650 from memory, but may have been a 
little more, and the Apple Care of course is worth a good few hundred more.

Thanks all for your time.

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Re: VueScan working great for OCR

2011-06-10 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi,
I wonder what version of Vuscan one should go for, the 32-bit or the 64-bit 
one, i don't know what mode my mac runs in, what if i choose the wrong version?
/Krister
10 jun 2011 kl. 09.34 skrev Anne Robertson:

 Hello søren,
 
 VueScan now supports 29 languages. I wouldn't be interested if it only 
 supported English. That's what makes DocuScan a complete non-starter for me.
 
 It even supports Chinese, Japanese and Korean, not to mention all the 
 European languages I can think of.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 9:17 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:
 
 Hi.
 Thanks for the info. Does it still only support english OCR?
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
 
 Den 10/06/2011 kl. 09.09 skrev Anne Robertson:
 
 I've been in contact with Ed Hamrick, the developer of VueScan. The latest 
 version of VueScan now works great. I just had to press Cmd-N to produce a 
 beautiful RTF file of an article from New SCientist magazine.
 
 I haven't yet got the RTF file to open automatically, but I'm working on it.
 
 As far as I'm concerned, this is the simplest OCR solution on the Mac so 
 far.
 
 You can download VueScan from:
 http://www.hamrick.com/
 
 There are two Mac versions, 32 bit and 64 bit. I tested the 64 bit version.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
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Annoying security issue

2011-06-10 Thread Søren Jensen
Hi.
I've just bought a new awesome Tv tuner and the full version of EyeTv. I've 
installed EyeTv on both Mac computers, and it works without any issues on my 
MacBook Pro. When my Mac Mini boots up, it comes up with an error telling me 
that Eye connect hasn't ben started because it doesn't have the right security 
settings. I don't have any idea on how or where to start it since it's just a 
service and not the EyeTv app. My firewall is turned off in OSX and I've opened 
the required port on my router. The Eye Connect is required for communication 
between EyeTv and my Iphone on a 3g connection. I really hope someone can help 
here because I'm totally lost.
Best regards:
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Re: Annoying security issue

2011-06-10 Thread KliphSharrie
What is I TV?
Kliphton SR
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Sent from my IMac

On Jun 10, 2011, at 4:26 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:

 Hi.
 I've just bought a new awesome Tv tuner and the full version of EyeTv. I've 
 installed EyeTv on both Mac computers, and it works without any issues on my 
 MacBook Pro. When my Mac Mini boots up, it comes up with an error telling me 
 that Eye connect hasn't ben started because it doesn't have the right 
 security settings. I don't have any idea on how or where to start it since 
 it's just a service and not the EyeTv app. My firewall is turned off in OSX 
 and I've opened the required port on my router. The Eye Connect is required 
 for communication between EyeTv and my Iphone on a 3g connection. I really 
 hope someone can help here because I'm totally lost.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
 
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app suggestions?

2011-06-10 Thread KliphSharrie
OKay, I've seen a bunch of threads suggesting various facebook and twitter 
apps, along with IM apps.  Is there something that is accessible that 
intergrates all of them?  And is there a mac version of Aim, that was a big one 
for me on windows, since I was able to bring twitter and fb together at the 
same time.  Thanks.

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Re: VueScan working great for OCR

2011-06-10 Thread Dan
Hello,
After test driving VueScan, this is my feeling about it.
The only thing that's keeping me from purchasing VueScan is that it doesn't 
have an auto orientation feature. Call me picky, I guess, but I really don't 
want to full around with setting the orientation every time, especially if I'm 
not always sure that pages are always in the same orientation. Example, mail 
that has already been removed from the envelope and has been for what ever 
reason separated and may not all be in the same orientation.
While it's a little more involved, as far as scanning is concerned, when I use 
save in pdf image, with my HP PhotoSmart C7280 printer and ABBYY Fine Reader 
Express, I don't ever need to worry about the orientation.
For ease of use, I really would purchase VueScan if it had this one really 
needed feature.
Jut my thoughts regarding VueScan.  
Dan

On Jun 10, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

 I've been in contact with Ed Hamrick, the developer of VueScan. The latest 
 version of VueScan now works great. I just had to press Cmd-N to produce a 
 beautiful RTF file of an article from New SCientist magazine.
 
 I haven't yet got the RTF file to open automatically, but I'm working on it.
 
 As far as I'm concerned, this is the simplest OCR solution on the Mac so far.
 
 You can download VueScan from:
 http://www.hamrick.com/
 
 There are two Mac versions, 32 bit and 64 bit. I tested the 64 bit version.
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: VueScan working great for OCR

2011-06-10 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Krister,

You can download them both and see which works for you. You don't have to pay 
for it straight off. I think it puts a watermark on the scan until it's 
licensed.

I forgot to mention that it doesn't take care of orientation, but if it doesn't 
produce something sensible, you can always press Cmd-L to rotate the image to 
the left, or Cmd-R to rotate to the right.

Cheers,

Anne


On Jun 10, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

 Hi,
 I wonder what version of Vuscan one should go for, the 32-bit or the 64-bit 
 one, i don't know what mode my mac runs in, what if i choose the wrong 
 version?
 /Krister
 10 jun 2011 kl. 09.34 skrev Anne Robertson:
 
 Hello søren,
 
 VueScan now supports 29 languages. I wouldn't be interested if it only 
 supported English. That's what makes DocuScan a complete non-starter for me.
 
 It even supports Chinese, Japanese and Korean, not to mention all the 
 European languages I can think of.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 9:17 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:
 
 Hi.
 Thanks for the info. Does it still only support english OCR?
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
 
 Den 10/06/2011 kl. 09.09 skrev Anne Robertson:
 
 I've been in contact with Ed Hamrick, the developer of VueScan. The latest 
 version of VueScan now works great. I just had to press Cmd-N to produce a 
 beautiful RTF file of an article from New SCientist magazine.
 
 I haven't yet got the RTF file to open automatically, but I'm working on 
 it.
 
 As far as I'm concerned, this is the simplest OCR solution on the Mac so 
 far.
 
 You can download VueScan from:
 http://www.hamrick.com/
 
 There are two Mac versions, 32 bit and 64 bit. I tested the 64 bit version.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
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Re: VueScan working great for OCR

2011-06-10 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Krister,

You can download them both and see which works for you. You don't have to pay 
for it straight off. I think it puts a watermark on the scan until it's 
licensed.

I forgot to mention that it doesn't take care of orientation, but if it doesn't 
produce something sensible, you can always press Cmd-L to rotate the image to 
the left, or Cmd-R to rotate to the right.

Cheers,

Anne


On Jun 10, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

 Hi,
 I wonder what version of Vuscan one should go for, the 32-bit or the 64-bit 
 one, i don't know what mode my mac runs in, what if i choose the wrong 
 version?
 /Krister
 10 jun 2011 kl. 09.34 skrev Anne Robertson:
 
 Hello søren,
 
 VueScan now supports 29 languages. I wouldn't be interested if it only 
 supported English. That's what makes DocuScan a complete non-starter for me.
 
 It even supports Chinese, Japanese and Korean, not to mention all the 
 European languages I can think of.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 9:17 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:
 
 Hi.
 Thanks for the info. Does it still only support english OCR?
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
 
 Den 10/06/2011 kl. 09.09 skrev Anne Robertson:
 
 I've been in contact with Ed Hamrick, the developer of VueScan. The latest 
 version of VueScan now works great. I just had to press Cmd-N to produce a 
 beautiful RTF file of an article from New SCientist magazine.
 
 I haven't yet got the RTF file to open automatically, but I'm working on 
 it.
 
 As far as I'm concerned, this is the simplest OCR solution on the Mac so 
 far.
 
 You can download VueScan from:
 http://www.hamrick.com/
 
 There are two Mac versions, 32 bit and 64 bit. I tested the 64 bit version.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
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Re: VueScan settings

2011-06-10 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Anne,

Thanks so much for posting all this.  I ended up canceling my order for a 
Snapscan, and will instead be ordering an Epson WorkForce GTS50, which I 
believe has a more standard set of drivers.  So, I'll definitely give Vuescan a 
go.
Cheers,
Donna


On Jun 10, 2011, at 3:38 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

 Below are the settings for VueScan.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 1) Select Input;
 1.1) Task: Scan to file;
 1.2) Source: Your scanner;
 1.3) Media: Text;
 1.4) Media size: Auto;
 1.5) Preview resolution: 300 dpi;
 1.6) Scan resolution: 300 dpi;
 2) Select Output;
 2.1) Default folder: Folder you have created for this purpose;
 2.2) Printed size: Scan size;
 2.3) TIFF file: unchecked check box;
 2.4) JPEG file: unchecked check box;
 2.5) PDF file: unchecked check box;
 2.6) OCR text file: checked check box;
 2.7) OCR text file name: Name for document being scanned;
 2.8) OCR text multi page: check or uncheck as needed;
 2.9) Raw file: unchecked check box;
 3) Select Prefs;
 3.1) Language: Choose your language out of the 29 available;
 3.2) Font size (pt): 16;
 3.3 Crop units: mm;
 3.4) Printed units: mm;
 3.5 External viewer: unchecked check box;
 3.6) External editor: checked check box;
 3.7) Editor: TextEdit.
 
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Re: time and hot keys?

2011-06-10 Thread Colin M
Hi Kliphton!
OK To get the time working!
Open vo utility [vo+f8 you should be in the general settings!
Scroll to the [allow vo to be controlled by apple scripts] and check it!
Next press command+8 that will take you to the commanders settings!
Select the keyboard tab and next to that enable keyboard commander check box 
and do so!
After that you will have the option to choose either the left or right options 
key!
It should be set on the right one!
Next to that is the table of shortcuts there should be some in there already, 
one of which is the say time one!
Of course this is where you'll put your own [when you make them]
So if you want Skype on a key select add button you'll get a box to put the 
letter you wish for Skype [ safari already has the S]
Put in your letter of choice then go to the menu of commands button and open 
it, you'll have all of the vo commands and others for you to scroll through!
But at the bottom is custom commands open that and select applications then you 
can find Skype and select it!
So to open Skype from then on just press the option key and the main key you 
chose for Skype!
Just one more thing someone once asked if you could choose which option key for 
each shortcut!
Answer no, its either one or the other for all!
As for your Itunes Question.
Do you mean from CD's!
hth
On 10 Jun 2011, at 03:56, KliphSharrie wrote:

 So I read a post the other day, saying you could enable vo to read you the 
 time by hitting command T, but can't remember how to enable it.  Also, is 
 there a way to assign hot keys so you don't always have to go in to the doc?  
 Lastly, what is the trick to importing the music in to itunes, I have been in 
 and out of itunes, and can't figure that one out.  Thanks.
 Kliphton SR
 (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72
 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com
 (Google Voice) 657-229-2105
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Other BootCamp and Fusion questions

2011-06-10 Thread Vince Mistretta
Hi,
Reading that a BootCamp partition can also be accessed from Fusion.  Anyone 
doing this and any issues?

I want to move my XP partition from my PC to my iMac which is a OEM version.  
Issues running under Fusion?

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Thank you to Joanne for the wonderful post on Quicknav

2011-06-10 Thread Allison Manzino
Hi Joanne,

I wanted to thank you so much for the hlelpful post on Quicknav. I know about 
the Item Chooser and like you, this has to be one of my favorite features in 
VoiceOver. But I have encountered problems with Quicknav. I have accidentally 
turned it on, cannot for the life of me figure out why anyone would want to use 
it, till I read your post. I'm sure that most of you know this already but 
Quicknav proves very useful with the Iphone. My Mac is well .. we won't go 
there, long story short it's down again. I'm waiting for Apple to send a 
replacement. So I'm religated to the Iphone right now. Navigating webpages has 
proven very frustrating without my item chooser. I've tried to  press VO U to 
bring up links list on the page, but the Iphone just sits and does nothing. 
Needless to say, my time on the net is frustrating. After reading Joanne's 
post, I was able to figure out how to get it to switch from headers to links 
and language too. I just wanted to say thank you. While I'm a little frustrated 
being without my Mac, Joanne's post makes using the Iphone to navigate websites 
much easier. The Iphone makes not having the Mac bearable. Can't wait for the 
Mac to come back. Apple has been great in resolving this, they really don't 
like having unhappy customers :) Have a great day everyone.

Allison


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Voiceovr osx lion

2011-06-10 Thread Quinn Haberl
Has anyone got a chance to see voice over in osx lion yet. What can we
expect to see once it is realesed?oxs lionand voceover

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Garageband: Joining Regions

2011-06-10 Thread Brandon Olivares
Hi,

I'm working on a recording in GarageBand. I have a track where I cut out a few 
parts in the middle, so now there are several regions. I wanted to join the 
regions, but when I do so, it reverts to the original track, readding the parts 
that I deleted. Do you know why this might be and how to join it without that 
happening?

Thanks,
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Re: time and hot keys?

2011-06-10 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Is there a way to get it where when I do my right option+t for edate/time, 
it'll say 24 hour time instead of 12 hour?  I set the clock in system prefs to 
24, but that didn't seem to have any effect, unless I double vo+M/ctrl+F8, then 
go over to the clock, but that's more work than I like when I can just hit one 
keystroke.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Colin M 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 6:37 AM
  Subject: Re: time and hot keys?


  Hi Kliphton!
  OK To get the time working!
  Open vo utility [vo+f8 you should be in the general settings!
  Scroll to the [allow vo to be controlled by apple scripts] and check it!
  Next press command+8 that will take you to the commanders settings!
  Select the keyboard tab and next to that enable keyboard commander check box 
and do so!
  After that you will have the option to choose either the left or right 
options key!
  It should be set on the right one!
  Next to that is the table of shortcuts there should be some in there already, 
one of which is the say time one!
  Of course this is where you'll put your own [when you make them]
  So if you want Skype on a key select add button you'll get a box to put the 
letter you wish for Skype [ safari already has the S]
  Put in your letter of choice then go to the menu of commands button and open 
it, you'll have all of the vo commands and others for you to scroll through!
  But at the bottom is custom commands open that and select applications then 
you can find Skype and select it!
  So to open Skype from then on just press the option key and the main key you 
chose for Skype!
  Just one more thing someone once asked if you could choose which option key 
for each shortcut!
  Answer no, its either one or the other for all!
  As for your Itunes Question.
  Do you mean from CD's!
  hth

  On 10 Jun 2011, at 03:56, KliphSharrie wrote:


So I read a post the other day, saying you could enable vo to read you the 
time by hitting command T, but can't remember how to enable it.  Also, is there 
a way to assign hot keys so you don't always have to go in to the doc?  Lastly, 
what is the trick to importing the music in to itunes, I have been in and out 
of itunes, and can't figure that one out.  Thanks.

Kliphton SR
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(Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com
(Google Voice) 657-229-2105
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Re: time and hot keys?

2011-06-10 Thread KliphSharrie
Now that was very helpful.  But as for itunes, the music is already on my Mac, 
I just don't know how to tell itunes where to go get it from.
Kliphton SR
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On Jun 10, 2011, at 5:37 AM, Colin M wrote:

 Hi Kliphton!
 OK To get the time working!
 Open vo utility [vo+f8 you should be in the general settings!
 Scroll to the [allow vo to be controlled by apple scripts] and check it!
 Next press command+8 that will take you to the commanders settings!
 Select the keyboard tab and next to that enable keyboard commander check box 
 and do so!
 After that you will have the option to choose either the left or right 
 options key!
 It should be set on the right one!
 Next to that is the table of shortcuts there should be some in there already, 
 one of which is the say time one!
 Of course this is where you'll put your own [when you make them]
 So if you want Skype on a key select add button you'll get a box to put the 
 letter you wish for Skype [ safari already has the S]
 Put in your letter of choice then go to the menu of commands button and open 
 it, you'll have all of the vo commands and others for you to scroll through!
 But at the bottom is custom commands open that and select applications then 
 you can find Skype and select it!
 So to open Skype from then on just press the option key and the main key you 
 chose for Skype!
 Just one more thing someone once asked if you could choose which option key 
 for each shortcut!
 Answer no, its either one or the other for all!
 As for your Itunes Question.
 Do you mean from CD's!
 hth
 On 10 Jun 2011, at 03:56, KliphSharrie wrote:
 
 So I read a post the other day, saying you could enable vo to read you the 
 time by hitting command T, but can't remember how to enable it.  Also, is 
 there a way to assign hot keys so you don't always have to go in to the doc? 
  Lastly, what is the trick to importing the music in to itunes, I have been 
 in and out of itunes, and can't figure that one out.  Thanks.
 Kliphton SR
 (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72
 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com
 (Google Voice) 657-229-2105
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iMac late 2009 memory upgrade

2011-06-10 Thread Vince Mistretta
Hi,

Is there more than two screws on bottom memory door?  I loosened the two screws 
on either side but find it still is being hindered by something in the middle.

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Re: time and hot keys?

2011-06-10 Thread Colin M
Hi Christopher!
Well I had not noticed that myself!
Mine does the same!
So I suppose it will be down to how the script has been made!
If that is the case then the script itself will be needed to be changed!
And I'm afraid thats out of my league!
Colin
On 10 Jun 2011, at 16:40, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

 Is there a way to get it where when I do my right option+t for edate/time, 
 it'll say 24 hour time instead of 12 hour?  I set the clock in system prefs 
 to 24, but that didn't seem to have any effect, unless I double vo+M/ctrl+F8, 
 then go over to the clock, but that's more work than I like when I can just 
 hit one keystroke.
  
 Chris.
  
 - Original Message -
 From: Colin M
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 6:37 AM
 Subject: Re: time and hot keys?
 
 Hi Kliphton!
 OK To get the time working!
 Open vo utility [vo+f8 you should be in the general settings!
 Scroll to the [allow vo to be controlled by apple scripts] and check it!
 Next press command+8 that will take you to the commanders settings!
 Select the keyboard tab and next to that enable keyboard commander check box 
 and do so!
 After that you will have the option to choose either the left or right 
 options key!
 It should be set on the right one!
 Next to that is the table of shortcuts there should be some in there already, 
 one of which is the say time one!
 Of course this is where you'll put your own [when you make them]
 So if you want Skype on a key select add button you'll get a box to put the 
 letter you wish for Skype [ safari already has the S]
 Put in your letter of choice then go to the menu of commands button and open 
 it, you'll have all of the vo commands and others for you to scroll through!
 But at the bottom is custom commands open that and select applications then 
 you can find Skype and select it!
 So to open Skype from then on just press the option key and the main key you 
 chose for Skype!
 Just one more thing someone once asked if you could choose which option key 
 for each shortcut!
 Answer no, its either one or the other for all!
 As for your Itunes Question.
 Do you mean from CD's!
 hth
 On 10 Jun 2011, at 03:56, KliphSharrie wrote:
 
 So I read a post the other day, saying you could enable vo to read you the 
 time by hitting command T, but can't remember how to enable it.  Also, is 
 there a way to assign hot keys so you don't always have to go in to the doc? 
  Lastly, what is the trick to importing the music in to itunes, I have been 
 in and out of itunes, and can't figure that one out.  Thanks.
 Kliphton SR
 (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72
 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com
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Re: time and hot keys?

2011-06-10 Thread Colin M
Hi Kliphton!
In Itunes the command [command+o] opens the add to library window!
In that window is ways to find that content you wish to add!
And from what I can tell when you've selected your music you just have to press 
the OK button!
I've never used it but that seems to be what your looking for!
And if in doubt just find the council button and press that instead!
hth ColinOn 10 Jun 2011, at 16:41, KliphSharrie wrote:

 Now that was very helpful.  But as for itunes, the music is already on my 
 Mac, I just don't know how to tell itunes where to go get it from.
 Kliphton SR
 (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72
 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com
 (Google Voice) 657-229-2105
 Sent from my IMac
 
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 5:37 AM, Colin M wrote:
 
 Hi Kliphton!
 OK To get the time working!
 Open vo utility [vo+f8 you should be in the general settings!
 Scroll to the [allow vo to be controlled by apple scripts] and check it!
 Next press command+8 that will take you to the commanders settings!
 Select the keyboard tab and next to that enable keyboard commander check box 
 and do so!
 After that you will have the option to choose either the left or right 
 options key!
 It should be set on the right one!
 Next to that is the table of shortcuts there should be some in there 
 already, one of which is the say time one!
 Of course this is where you'll put your own [when you make them]
 So if you want Skype on a key select add button you'll get a box to put the 
 letter you wish for Skype [ safari already has the S]
 Put in your letter of choice then go to the menu of commands button and open 
 it, you'll have all of the vo commands and others for you to scroll through!
 But at the bottom is custom commands open that and select applications then 
 you can find Skype and select it!
 So to open Skype from then on just press the option key and the main key you 
 chose for Skype!
 Just one more thing someone once asked if you could choose which option key 
 for each shortcut!
 Answer no, its either one or the other for all!
 As for your Itunes Question.
 Do you mean from CD's!
 hth
 On 10 Jun 2011, at 03:56, KliphSharrie wrote:
 
 So I read a post the other day, saying you could enable vo to read you the 
 time by hitting command T, but can't remember how to enable it.  Also, is 
 there a way to assign hot keys so you don't always have to go in to the 
 doc?  Lastly, what is the trick to importing the music in to itunes, I have 
 been in and out of itunes, and can't figure that one out.  Thanks.
 Kliphton SR
 (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72
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email questions?

2011-06-10 Thread KliphSharrie
Okay, so if I wanted to save a message for future reference, how would I move
 it to another folder?  Also, is there a way to access my contacts without 
closing the email app?  Lastly, if someone I am trying to send email too isn't 
populating when I start there name, how would I get to the address book from a 
new message to select there name?  Thanks.Kliphton SR
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Re: email questions?

2011-06-10 Thread ShamelessFanGirl
And adding to this question, how does one go about sending mail to multiple 
recipients?


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On Jun 10, 2011, at 12:21 PM, KliphSharrie skhleirpehctcoens7...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Okay, so if I wanted to save a message for future reference, how would I move
  it to another folder?  Also, is there a way to access my contacts without 
 closing the email app?  Lastly, if someone I am trying to send email too 
 isn't populating when I start there name, how would I get to the address book 
 from a new message to select there name?  Thanks.Kliphton SR
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Re: iMac late 2009 memory upgrade

2011-06-10 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Just to be sure we are on the same page…

On my MacBook where there is a coin slot to unlock the battery, there
is a ram/HD area behind a alumium panel.  This panel is attached with
three philips screws according to Apple documentation.

Jonathan Cohn


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 Is there more than two screws on bottom memory door?  I loosened the two
 screws on either side but find it still is being hindered by something in
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RE: best twitter client for the mac?

2011-06-10 Thread Chantel Cuddemi
I use Shyrinx. 

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Subject: best twitter client for the mac?

So, coming from windows I was a huge qwitter user.  What appp can I use that
will bring me close to the same expereience?  Or that is easy to use?
Thanks.

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Re: email questions?

2011-06-10 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi,

To move a message to another folder, assuming that folder has already been 
created, press Control Option Shift M to bring up the context menu for that 
message.
Arrow up to move to and press right arrow. Arrow down to the folder and press 
enter.
The next time you open the context menu for any message, when you arrow up 
there will be a moveto again option showing the most recent folder you moved a 
message to.  If you want that just press enter on it, otherwise, keep arrowing 
up to move to and choose a different folder.

To choose addresses for any field in a new message, press control option I for 
the item chooser.
Type ad and press enter to go to the addresses button.
Press space bar on the addresses button.
Tab to the list of people and choose who you want then press enter.
You will be returned to the edit field with the address you selected filled in.

To add multiple addresses, simply select multiple people from your address 
book, or type them in separated by semicolons like this.
e...@erik-burggraaf.com; y...@yourname.com
If you start typing eri and e...@erik-burggraaf.com comes up, press the right 
arrow once to accept the auto-complete suggestion.
The semicolon and space will be filled in for you automaticly.  Then you can 
type y...@yourname.com.

Hope this helps,

Erik Burggraaf
User support consultant,
Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
1-888-255-5194
http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

On 2011-06-10, at 12:21 PM, KliphSharrie wrote:

 Okay, so if I wanted to save a message for future reference, how would I move
  it to another folder?  Also, is there a way to access my contacts without 
 closing the email app?  Lastly, if someone I am trying to send email too 
 isn't populating when I start there name, how would I get to the address book 
 from a new message to select there name?  Thanks.Kliphton SR
 (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72
 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com
 (Google Voice) 657-229-2105
 Sent from my IMac
 
 
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Re: email questions?

2011-06-10 Thread Colin M
Hi there!
Also for addresses you can just press command+option+A and that will open your 
address book!
If you go to the people table and interact as you go through all your names 
with down arrow, when you get to a name you wish to add to the send  field just 
press the return/enter button then go on down to the next name you wish to add 
and do the same!
When you get to the last name you wish to add just stop interacting [no need to 
press enter on the last name] and then scroll to the [to] button and press vo 
space!
Then command+w to close the address book!
In the to field will be listed all the names you picked!
They'll say something like fred blogs menu button for each name!
hth Colin
On 10 Jun 2011, at 19:00, erik burggraaf wrote:

 Hi,
 
 To move a message to another folder, assuming that folder has already been 
 created, press Control Option Shift M to bring up the context menu for that 
 message.
 Arrow up to move to and press right arrow. Arrow down to the folder and press 
 enter.
 The next time you open the context menu for any message, when you arrow up 
 there will be a moveto again option showing the most recent folder you moved 
 a message to.  If you want that just press enter on it, otherwise, keep 
 arrowing up to move to and choose a different folder.
 
 To choose addresses for any field in a new message, press control option I 
 for the item chooser.
 Type ad and press enter to go to the addresses button.
 Press space bar on the addresses button.
 Tab to the list of people and choose who you want then press enter.
 You will be returned to the edit field with the address you selected filled 
 in.
 
 To add multiple addresses, simply select multiple people from your address 
 book, or type them in separated by semicolons like this.
 e...@erik-burggraaf.com; y...@yourname.com
 If you start typing eri and e...@erik-burggraaf.com comes up, press the right 
 arrow once to accept the auto-complete suggestion.
 The semicolon and space will be filled in for you automatically.  Then you 
 can type y...@yourname.com.
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
 User support consultant,
 Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
 1-888-255-5194
 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 
 On 2011-06-10, at 12:21 PM, KliphSharrie wrote:
 
 Okay, so if I wanted to save a message for future reference, how would I move
  it to another folder?  Also, is there a way to access my contacts without 
 closing the email app?  Lastly, if someone I am trying to send email too 
 isn't populating when I start there name, how would I get to the address 
 book from a new message to select there name?  Thanks.Kliphton SR
 (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72
 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com
 (Google Voice) 657-229-2105
 Sent from my IMac
 
 
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Re: Backspacing on a BrailleConnect with Voiceover

2011-06-10 Thread Jessie
Hi Thuy,

I appreciate the suggestion, but it's not working on my model. That's
the keystroke to delete on the IPhone, but it does something else on
the Mac:  It's assigned to go to the dock, and there's no way to
reassign it to delete that I can see.  D1+d2 is assigned to read from
the beginning.  Any other thoughts?

Thanks,
Jessie

On Jun 9, 2:43 am, Thuy tmallal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Jessie. I have theBrailleConnect12 and if it's anything like that
 model, you need to use the navigation keys (d1-d6). It's the
 equivalent of the chords that you normally do with space plus Braille
 letter. The chord is a d-chord, which in the case of theBrailleConnectwould 
 be d1-d4-d5. Hope this helps.

 Cheers

 Thuy

 On 09/06/2011, Jessie Kirchner jessiekirch...@gmail.com wrote:







  Hi List,

  I'm using aBrailleConnect24 with my Mac to read and enter Braille into
  documents, but I can't figure out how to backspace over mistakes.  There's
  nothing in the Assign Commands table either.  Is there any way not to have
  to use the computer keyboard?  I'm probably missing something.

  Thanks,
  Jessie

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Re: iMac late 2009 memory upgrade

2011-06-10 Thread Vince Mistretta
I'm referring to the iMac as in the subject not a MBP.

Thanks
On Jun 10, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

 Just to be sure we are on the same page…
 
 On my MacBook where there is a coin slot to unlock the battery, there
 is a ram/HD area behind a alumium panel.  This panel is attached with
 three philips screws according to Apple documentation.
 
 Jonathan Cohn
 
 
 On 10/06/2011, Vince Mistretta vmistrettat...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Is there more than two screws on bottom memory door?  I loosened the two
 screws on either side but find it still is being hindered by something in
 the middle.
 
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Re: iMac late 2009 memory upgrade

2011-06-10 Thread Esther
Hi Vince,

I don't know the iMac layout, but Apple's support pages gives full information 
on how to perform memory upgrades and disk installations (on computer and 
laptop models where this is relatively easy to access).  Go to the Knowledge 
Base Article on iMac: How to remove or install memory:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1423

You'll have to read the linked portions specific to your model (e.g, iMac 
(21.5-inch, Late 2009) or other size 2009 models that they list).  This will 
tell you what you need to remove once you unscrew the door, and whether there 
are tabs to pull out before going to the next stage.

For information purposes, all these documents at available in multiple 
languages (use item chooser menu to pick the one you want).  Also, the Apple 
Support page for your product will have links to How to documents, so I did a 
Google search of the Apple Support pages for your (Intel) iMac and found:

http://www.apple.com/support/imac/intel/

Then I found and went to the link for Remove or install memory on that page 
to get to the Knowledge Base article I posted above.  The same search method 
can be applied to other Apple products to find this kind of information.  If, 
for some reason, you can't find or navigate the Apple product support pages, 
the Macrumors guides pages give a lot of information and links, and you can 
Google search for those instead.  They typically have both buying guides that 
describe/compare products and features, and track when they are released, and 
hardware information guides that help you understand machine configuration.  
However, you'll get the most detailed information for items such as upgrading 
memory from the Apple Support site.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther
  
On Jun 10, 2011, at 08:49, Vince Mistretta wrote:

 I'm referring to the iMac as in the subject not a MBP.
 
 Thanks
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
 
 Just to be sure we are on the same page…
 
 On my MacBook where there is a coin slot to unlock the battery, there
 is a ram/HD area behind a alumium panel.  This panel is attached with
 three philips screws according to Apple documentation.
 
 Jonathan Cohn
 
 
 On 10/06/2011, Vince Mistretta vmistrettat...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Is there more than two screws on bottom memory door?  I loosened the two
 screws on either side but find it still is being hindered by something in
 the middle.
 

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Re: VueScan settings

2011-06-10 Thread Goldfinga Productions
does this cost?


On Jun 10, 2011, at 3:38 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

 Below are the settings for VueScan.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 1) Select Input;
 1.1) Task: Scan to file;
 1.2) Source: Your scanner;
 1.3) Media: Text;
 1.4) Media size: Auto;
 1.5) Preview resolution: 300 dpi;
 1.6) Scan resolution: 300 dpi;
 2) Select Output;
 2.1) Default folder: Folder you have created for this purpose;
 2.2) Printed size: Scan size;
 2.3) TIFF file: unchecked check box;
 2.4) JPEG file: unchecked check box;
 2.5) PDF file: unchecked check box;
 2.6) OCR text file: checked check box;
 2.7) OCR text file name: Name for document being scanned;
 2.8) OCR text multi page: check or uncheck as needed;
 2.9) Raw file: unchecked check box;
 3) Select Prefs;
 3.1) Language: Choose your language out of the 29 available;
 3.2) Font size (pt): 16;
 3.3 Crop units: mm;
 3.4) Printed units: mm;
 3.5 External viewer: unchecked check box;
 3.6) External editor: checked check box;
 3.7) Editor: TextEdit.
 
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Re: iMac late 2009 memory upgrade

2011-06-10 Thread Vince Mistretta
Thanks, but I did that and it says to remove screws - not how many for my 
model.  Most 27 inch seem to have two screws which Idid loosen, but there seems 
to be something else there which is not described.  It might be in a diagram, 
but not described in words.  That's why I'm asking here in case anyone had this 
experience.  I really don't want to bring this thing into the apple store just 
for this simple task.
On Jun 10, 2011, at 3:10 PM, Esther wrote:

 Hi Vince,
 
 I don't know the iMac layout, but Apple's support pages gives full 
 information on how to perform memory upgrades and disk installations (on 
 computer and laptop models where this is relatively easy to access).  Go to 
 the Knowledge Base Article on iMac: How to remove or install memory:
 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1423
 
 You'll have to read the linked portions specific to your model (e.g, iMac 
 (21.5-inch, Late 2009) or other size 2009 models that they list).  This will 
 tell you what you need to remove once you unscrew the door, and whether there 
 are tabs to pull out before going to the next stage.
 
 For information purposes, all these documents at available in multiple 
 languages (use item chooser menu to pick the one you want).  Also, the Apple 
 Support page for your product will have links to How to documents, so I did 
 a Google search of the Apple Support pages for your (Intel) iMac and found:
 
 http://www.apple.com/support/imac/intel/
 
 Then I found and went to the link for Remove or install memory on that page 
 to get to the Knowledge Base article I posted above.  The same search method 
 can be applied to other Apple products to find this kind of information.  If, 
 for some reason, you can't find or navigate the Apple product support pages, 
 the Macrumors guides pages give a lot of information and links, and you can 
 Google search for those instead.  They typically have both buying guides that 
 describe/compare products and features, and track when they are released, and 
 hardware information guides that help you understand machine configuration.  
 However, you'll get the most detailed information for items such as upgrading 
 memory from the Apple Support site.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 08:49, Vince Mistretta wrote:
 
 I'm referring to the iMac as in the subject not a MBP.
 
 Thanks
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
 
 Just to be sure we are on the same page…
 
 On my MacBook where there is a coin slot to unlock the battery, there
 is a ram/HD area behind a alumium panel.  This panel is attached with
 three philips screws according to Apple documentation.
 
 Jonathan Cohn
 
 
 On 10/06/2011, Vince Mistretta vmistrettat...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Is there more than two screws on bottom memory door?  I loosened the two
 screws on either side but find it still is being hindered by something in
 the middle.
 
 
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Re: VueScan settings

2011-06-10 Thread Esther
Hi GF,

Anne answered your question a few days ago about Vuescan prices.  I'll paste 
this in, in case you missed her reply:

VueScan costs $39 for one year or $79 for life.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Jun 10, 2011, at 09:15, Goldfinga Productions wrote:

 does this cost?
 
 
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 3:38 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
 
 Below are the settings for VueScan.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 1) Select Input;
 1.1) Task: Scan to file;
 1.2) Source: Your scanner;
 1.3) Media: Text;
 1.4) Media size: Auto;
 1.5) Preview resolution: 300 dpi;
 1.6) Scan resolution: 300 dpi;
 2) Select Output;
 2.1) Default folder: Folder you have created for this purpose;
 2.2) Printed size: Scan size;
 2.3) TIFF file: unchecked check box;
 2.4) JPEG file: unchecked check box;
 2.5) PDF file: unchecked check box;
 2.6) OCR text file: checked check box;
 2.7) OCR text file name: Name for document being scanned;
 2.8) OCR text multi page: check or uncheck as needed;
 2.9) Raw file: unchecked check box;
 3) Select Prefs;
 3.1) Language: Choose your language out of the 29 available;
 3.2) Font size (pt): 16;
 3.3 Crop units: mm;
 3.4) Printed units: mm;
 3.5 External viewer: unchecked check box;
 3.6) External editor: checked check box;
 3.7) Editor: TextEdit.
 

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Re: iMac late 2009 memory upgrade

2011-06-10 Thread Esther
Hi Vince,

Just after the step about removing the screws, the instructions  on the Apple 
Knowledge Base article page say:

Untuck the tab in the memory compartment. If you are replacing a memory 
module, gently pull the tab to eject any installed memory module.

Did you try to feel around for any tabs along the base of the compartment and 
pull them out?  I'd guess from previous memory setups that you're up against 
the actual modules, which you have to pull out by finding the tabs tucked below 
them.  Try to locate the tabs and then try pulling them out.  Just guessing 
from the instruction list description.  

Cheers,

Esther 
 
On Jun 10, 2011, at 09:26, Vince Mistretta wrote:

 Thanks, but I did that and it says to remove screws - not how many for my 
 model.  Most 27 inch seem to have two screws which Idid loosen, but there 
 seems to be something else there which is not described.  It might be in a 
 diagram, but not described in words.  That's why I'm asking here in case 
 anyone had this experience.  I really don't want to bring this thing into the 
 apple store just for this simple task.
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 3:10 PM, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi Vince,
 
 I don't know the iMac layout, but Apple's support pages gives full 
 information on how to perform memory upgrades and disk installations (on 
 computer and laptop models where this is relatively easy to access).  Go to 
 the Knowledge Base Article on iMac: How to remove or install memory:
 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1423
snip
 
 Is there more than two screws on bottom memory door?  I loosened the two
 screws on either side but find it still is being hindered by something in
 the middle.
 

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Re: iMac late 2009 memory upgrade

2011-06-10 Thread Vince Mistretta
Ester,

I'm not even at that step.  It's the compartment door I'm referring to.  It is 
sticking in the center and I can't seem to get it loosened up.

In the center there seems to be a very small item loosely moving in and out 
when I move my fingers over the area, but can't figure if it's something which 
requires a pen or paperclip to press it in.

It's definitely not another screw.

On Jun 10, 2011, at 3:42 PM, Esther wrote:

 Hi Vince,
 
 Just after the step about removing the screws, the instructions  on the Apple 
 Knowledge Base article page say:
 
 Untuck the tab in the memory compartment. If you are replacing a memory 
 module, gently pull the tab to eject any installed memory module.
 
 Did you try to feel around for any tabs along the base of the compartment and 
 pull them out?  I'd guess from previous memory setups that you're up against 
 the actual modules, which you have to pull out by finding the tabs tucked 
 below them.  Try to locate the tabs and then try pulling them out.  Just 
 guessing from the instruction list description.  
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther 
 
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 09:26, Vince Mistretta wrote:
 
 Thanks, but I did that and it says to remove screws - not how many for my 
 model.  Most 27 inch seem to have two screws which Idid loosen, but there 
 seems to be something else there which is not described.  It might be in a 
 diagram, but not described in words.  That's why I'm asking here in case 
 anyone had this experience.  I really don't want to bring this thing into 
 the apple store just for this simple task.
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 3:10 PM, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi Vince,
 
 I don't know the iMac layout, but Apple's support pages gives full 
 information on how to perform memory upgrades and disk installations (on 
 computer and laptop models where this is relatively easy to access).  Go to 
 the Knowledge Base Article on iMac: How to remove or install memory:
 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1423
 snip
 
 Is there more than two screws on bottom memory door?  I loosened the two
 screws on either side but find it still is being hindered by something in
 the middle.
 
 
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Not getting all responses to my EMail messages

2011-06-10 Thread Chris Snyder
Hi all,
For some reason, when I look at the messages from this list, the VIPhone list, 
and the ProTools Access list, I am not seeing all of the responses to a topic. 
I know this because I often see quoted responses below messages I do get that 
didn't appear on the list. These don't appear to be off list messages. I also 
had someone respond to one of my questions, , and I never got it. I only saw it 
in a quoted reply from someone else's response.
Any ideas why this might be happening?

Friendly,
Chris

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Mac-access list information [was Re: [Bulk] Re: editing?]

2011-06-10 Thread Esther
Hi Kliph,

To subscribe to the mac-access list you can try:
http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access

That address should also give you access to the current list archives. The main 
web site page is:
http://www.mac-access.net/
but they're redoing their web pages so I think some of the links from the site 
page may not be currently working.  

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther 
 
On Jun 8, 2011, at 11:47, KliphSharrie wrote:

 what is the address to the mac access list?  I could use all the pointers and 
 help I can get!  Thanks.
 
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Re: Not getting all responses to my EMail messages

2011-06-10 Thread Greg Aikens
Did you check your junk folder?  Sometimes this happens to me and I find the 
missing messages there.  

-Greg

On Jun 10, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Chris Snyder wrote:

 Hi all,
 For some reason, when I look at the messages from this list, the VIPhone 
 list, and the ProTools Access list, I am not seeing all of the responses to a 
 topic. I know this because I often see quoted responses below messages I do 
 get that didn't appear on the list. These don't appear to be off list 
 messages. I also had someone respond to one of my questions, , and I never 
 got it. I only saw it in a quoted reply from someone else's response.
 Any ideas why this might be happening?
 
 Friendly,
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Re: iMac late 2009 memory upgrade

2011-06-10 Thread Esther
Hi Vince,

According to the iFixit site for the 27 iMac 2009 model, there are 3 screws to 
the compartment door, and you use a Phillips #1 size screwdriver to open it.  
I'll paste in the text of their instructions and then give you the link to the 
page:

begin quote
Step 1 — Access Door
Loosen the three Phillips screws securing the 
access door to the bottom edge of your iMac.



These screws will remain captive in the access door.


Remove the access door from your iMac.



During reassembly, fasten the access door loosely and align 
it with the pocket cut into the outer case of the iMac before fully tightening 
the screws.



Step 2 — RAM
Use your fingers or the tip of a spudger to slide the 
black plastic RAM tray pull tab out of the RAM slot.


Step 3 

Pull the black plastic tab away from the iMac to eject the RAM 
chip from its socket.


Use your fingers to slide the RAM chip(s) out of its socket.



If necessary, repeat this process for the other RAM chip(s).
end quote

The spudger, by the way, is just a thin stick with a pointed tip that is 
electro-statically protected.  You don't need it, but you can use the end to 
help tease out components.
Source: Installing iMac Intel 27 RAM - iFixit
http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Repair/Installing-iMac-Intel-27-Inch-RAM/1630/1

The iFixit folks are the people who do teardowns of new products.  They 
typically give instructions for accessing components that are difficult for 
most people to get to, so I figured they would also cover the easier to access 
components with a set of instructions, and did a Google Search.  HTH.  I don't 
know why you can't get at the that third screw, though.

Cheers,

Esther

On Jun 10, 2011, at 09:52, Vince Mistretta wrote:

 Ester,
 
 I'm not even at that step.  It's the compartment door I'm referring to.  It 
 is sticking in the center and I can't seem to get it loosened up.
 
 In the center there seems to be a very small item loosely moving in and out 
 when I move my fingers over the area, but can't figure if it's something 
 which requires a pen or paperclip to press it in.
 
 It's definitely not another screw.
 
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 3:42 PM, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi Vince,
 
 Just after the step about removing the screws, the instructions  on the 
 Apple Knowledge Base article page say:
 
 Untuck the tab in the memory compartment. If you are replacing a memory 
 module, gently pull the tab to eject any installed memory module.
 
 Did you try to feel around for any tabs along the base of the compartment 
 and pull them out?  I'd guess from previous memory setups that you're up 
 against the actual modules, which you have to pull out by finding the tabs 
 tucked below them.  Try to locate the tabs and then try pulling them out.  
 Just guessing from the instruction list description.  
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther 
 
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 09:26, Vince Mistretta wrote:
 
 Thanks, but I did that and it says to remove screws - not how many for my 
 model.  Most 27 inch seem to have two screws which Idid loosen, but there 
 seems to be something else there which is not described.  It might be in a 
 diagram, but not described in words.  That's why I'm asking here in case 
 anyone had this experience.  I really don't want to bring this thing into 
 the apple store just for this simple task.
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 3:10 PM, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi Vince,
 
 I don't know the iMac layout, but Apple's support pages gives full 
 information on how to perform memory upgrades and disk installations (on 
 computer and laptop models where this is relatively easy to access).  Go 
 to the Knowledge Base Article on iMac: How to remove or install memory:
 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1423
 snip
 
 Is there more than two screws on bottom memory door?  I loosened the two
 screws on either side but find it still is being hindered by something in
 the middle.
 
 

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Re: iMac late 2009 memory upgrade

2011-06-10 Thread Vince Mistretta
Figures, it takes another site to explain there's three screws nottwo.

Thanks Ester..

On Jun 10, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Esther wrote:

 Hi Vince,
 
 According to the iFixit site for the 27 iMac 2009 model, there are 3 screws 
 to the compartment door, and you use a Phillips #1 size screwdriver to open 
 it.  I'll paste in the text of their instructions and then give you the link 
 to the page:
 
 begin quote
 Step 1 — Access Door  
 Loosen the three Phillips screws securing the access door to the bottom edge 
 of your iMac.
 
   
 
 These screws will remain captive in the access door.
 
   
 Remove the access door from your iMac.
 
   
 
 During reassembly, fasten the access door loosely and align it with the 
 pocket cut into the outer case of the iMac before fully tightening the screws.
 
 
 
 Step 2 — RAM  
 Use your fingers or the tip of a spudger to slide the black plastic RAM tray 
 pull tab out of the RAM slot.
 
 
 Step 3 
   
 Pull the black plastic tab away from the iMac to eject the RAM chip from its 
 socket.
 
   
 Use your fingers to slide the RAM chip(s) out of its socket.
 
   
 
 If necessary, repeat this process for the other RAM chip(s).
 end quote
 
 The spudger, by the way, is just a thin stick with a pointed tip that is 
 electro-statically protected.  You don't need it, but you can use the end to 
 help tease out components.
 Source: Installing iMac Intel 27 RAM - iFixit
 http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Repair/Installing-iMac-Intel-27-Inch-RAM/1630/1
 
 The iFixit folks are the people who do teardowns of new products.  They 
 typically give instructions for accessing components that are difficult for 
 most people to get to, so I figured they would also cover the easier to 
 access components with a set of instructions, and did a Google Search.  HTH.  
 I don't know why you can't get at the that third screw, though.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 09:52, Vince Mistretta wrote:
 
 Ester,
 
 I'm not even at that step.  It's the compartment door I'm referring to.  It 
 is sticking in the center and I can't seem to get it loosened up.
 
 In the center there seems to be a very small item loosely moving in and out 
 when I move my fingers over the area, but can't figure if it's something 
 which requires a pen or paperclip to press it in.
 
 It's definitely not another screw.
 
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 3:42 PM, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi Vince,
 
 Just after the step about removing the screws, the instructions  on the 
 Apple Knowledge Base article page say:
 
 Untuck the tab in the memory compartment. If you are replacing a memory 
 module, gently pull the tab to eject any installed memory module.
 
 Did you try to feel around for any tabs along the base of the compartment 
 and pull them out?  I'd guess from previous memory setups that you're up 
 against the actual modules, which you have to pull out by finding the tabs 
 tucked below them.  Try to locate the tabs and then try pulling them out.  
 Just guessing from the instruction list description.  
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther 
 
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 09:26, Vince Mistretta wrote:
 
 Thanks, but I did that and it says to remove screws - not how many for my 
 model.  Most 27 inch seem to have two screws which Idid loosen, but there 
 seems to be something else there which is not described.  It might be in a 
 diagram, but not described in words.  That's why I'm asking here in case 
 anyone had this experience.  I really don't want to bring this thing into 
 the apple store just for this simple task.
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 3:10 PM, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi Vince,
 
 I don't know the iMac layout, but Apple's support pages gives full 
 information on how to perform memory upgrades and disk installations (on 
 computer and laptop models where this is relatively easy to access).  Go 
 to the Knowledge Base Article on iMac: How to remove or install memory:
 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1423
 snip
 
 Is there more than two screws on bottom memory door?  I loosened the two
 screws on either side but find it still is being hindered by something 
 in
 the middle.
 
 
 
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Re: Not getting all responses to my EMail messages

2011-06-10 Thread Esther
Chris,

I sometimes find that a few of the Google Groups posts come in either multiple 
times or else oddly delayed.  This means that I may see a list post with a 
response to someone else's reply to my post before I see the initial reply.  
Usually, I'll see the earlier post show up eventually.  From what I've read, 
both of these glitches occasionally happens with Google Groups lists and Google 
accounts for unknown reasons, and can affect different groups of people when it 
occurs.  This doesn't happen very frequently to me, but it does sometimes 
happen for my mail.  It's only associated with the Google Groups lists.

While I don't have an idea of why this happens, I do have a solution for a 
possible workaround: check the Mail Archive sites for both the macvisionaries 
list and the ptaccess list.  Fortunately for you, both these lists are archived 
there:
• Pro Tools Access list at Mail Archive:
http://www.mail-archive.com/ptaccess%40googlegroups.com/ 
• Macvisionaries list at Mail Archive:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/

The default access view is organized by thread, so you can just find the topic 
and navigate down the thread by pressing Control+n to read the next post in the 
thread and Control+p to read the previous post.  If you want to view the list 
of messages as a series of time-ordered items, press Control+i and you'll see 
all the posts, latest post first,  If you read the first post and want to read 
earlier posts, press Control+b to go back (and Control+f to move forward). I 
think the itemized list is limited to the most recent 3000 posts.  To switch 
back to a display of posts by threaded Contents, press Control+c.

This is very handy (quite apart from the superior archive search capabilities 
of the Mail Archive site). If you want to access the macvisionaries list site 
at the Mail Archives through a webloc file -- a file that opens your browser at 
the specified web site location when you open it -- I put a 
macvisionaries.webloc file in the page of downloadable files for this group. Go 
to the main page of the Macvisionaries Google Groups site given at the end of 
this email:
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en
You may have to log in with your Gmail account password to access the File 
pages.  On the main Google Groups page there will be a link for Download 
Files.  If you download the linked file, you'll get something called 
macvisionaries-files.zip.  If it doesn't automatically open, use the context 
menu (VO-Shift-M) and choose the open with option and select Archive 
Utility.  You should then have a small (33 KB) folder named macvisionaries 
containing 4 items: an RTF file on suggested corrections for the (Greek) Dmitri 
voice, a macvisionaries logo image file, and two webloc files named 
macvisionaries.webloc and discuss archives.webloc.  The last two files are 
web location files pointing to the current an older (pre-February 2009) 
macvisionaries list searchable archives at the Mail Archive site.

You can use them as a pattern for creating another webloc file for the ptaccess 
list.  Just copy one of these files and rename it to something like 
ptaccess.webloc (or other name of your choosing ending in .webloc).  Then, 
go in and edit the file with TextEdit and replace the URL in the file with the 
URL of new location you want to access. By default, webloc files open in 
Finder, and Finder causes the file to open as a website in your default browser 
(usually Safari), so you need to change the default application used
to open the file.  I recall that, at least in Leopard, as long as the file had 
a webloc extension, even opening in TextEdit made you view this as a web page.  
This doesn't seem true for me in Snow Leopard, and I don't think that I changed 
the TextEdit preferences, but if you have problems editing the file, just 
rename it to being a .txt file instead of a .webloc file before your open 
with TextEdit.  The webloc file has a very simple structure, so once you've 
opened the file in TextEdit just use Command+F to find the string html, and 
then substitute your new html address for the one that is in the file.  The new 
line should look like an html address surrounded by a string delimiter at 
the start and followed by /string delimiter at the end.

Apparently, due to changes at Google Groups, the uploaded files for each group 
will only be available until the end of August, and only as a zipped folder of 
all current files.  You can use these files as a pattern for any web sites that 
you want to visit.  I sent a few list members webloc files for the Audible.com 
site, for example. The main difference with bookmarks is that you can send 
webloc files as attachments.  You can also put them on your Desktop or into 
your dock, and when you open them, you open a page to that site in your 
browser.  These are the kinds of files that get created when sighted users 
drag the current web page in their browser to their 

Re: Thank you to Joanne for the wonderful post on Quicknav

2011-06-10 Thread Joanne Chua
hi Alison,

i know this group is not for out-topic-message, but however, the
person you really need to thank is Niel and the rest, not me.
i'm new user of Mac, Niel and the rest who have help me particular
Niel, is the person that teach me how to use quicknav.

and now, time to have a cup of coffee, and continue to learn how to use Mac :)

cheers

On 10/06/2011, Allison Manzino gwennac...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Joanne,

 I wanted to thank you so much for the hlelpful post on Quicknav. I know
 about the Item Chooser and like you, this has to be one of my favorite
 features in VoiceOver. But I have encountered problems with Quicknav. I have
 accidentally turned it on, cannot for the life of me figure out why anyone
 would want to use it, till I read your post. I'm sure that most of you know
 this already but Quicknav proves very useful with the Iphone. My Mac is well
 .. we won't go there, long story short it's down again. I'm waiting for
 Apple to send a replacement. So I'm religated to the Iphone right now.
 Navigating webpages has proven very frustrating without my item chooser.
 I've tried to  press VO U to bring up links list on the page, but the Iphone
 just sits and does nothing. Needless to say, my time on the net is
 frustrating. After reading Joanne's post, I was able to figure out how to
 get it to switch from headers to links and language too. I just wanted to
 say thank you. While I'm a little frustrated being without my Mac, Joanne's
 post makes using the Iphone to navigate websites much easier. The Iphone
 makes not having the Mac bearable. Can't wait for the Mac to come back.
 Apple has been great in resolving this, they really don't like having
 unhappy customers :) Have a great day everyone.

 Allison


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mp3 catalogging

2011-06-10 Thread erik burggraaf
Alright guys.  Since I got my eyepal there is only one task for which I 
absolutely must have windows.  That is keeping a distributable catalog of my 
mp3 collection.

I need a mac equivalent of the program MPEG audio collection found here.
http://mac.sourceforge.net
It needs to show mp3s in a file browser interface, database the metadata, and 
generate .txt files which I can customize according to the information I need.  
It also needs to support flac files which are a huge part of my collection.  I 
would also prefer it if the program would embed the included txt and nfo files 
for each set.  I've been living without that for a long time and could continue 
to do so.

Any suggestions?

Erik Burggraaf
User support consultant,
Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
1-888-255-5194
http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

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Fwd: [M-A] For our U.K members...

2011-06-10 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi list,

I thought the UK members would find this information interesting about iCloud.

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Carlos Palomino car...@palomino.co
 Subject: [M-A] For our U.K members...
 Date: June 10, 2011 8:34:03 PM EDT
 To: Mobile Access Chat c...@mobileaccess.org
 Reply-To: Mobile Access Chat c...@mobileaccess.org
 
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 Apple’s new iCloud service — announced during Steve Jobs’ WWDC keynote on 
 Monday — will not launch in the United Kingdom until at least the first 
 quarter of 2012. A representative from the Performing Right Society (PRS), 
 an association of songwriters, music publishers, and composers in the United 
 Kingdom told The Telegraph that negotiations with Apple are still at a “very 
 early stage.”
 
 The licensing team at the PRS have started talks with Apple, but are a long 
 way off from any deals being signed … It is very much the early stages of 
 the negotiations and is similar to the launch of iTunes – which began in the 
 US and took a while to roll out to other countries
 
 iCloud will launch in tandem with iOS 5 in the United States this fall.
 
 Read
 
 Read more…
 
 
 
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 http://www.MobileAccess.org
 * Manage your membership at: My.MobileAccess.org/
 * Google is your friend! But there's also an archive of posts:
 http://groups.google.com/group/mobileaccess/topics
 * Need help? Send email to: h...@mobileaccess.org
 
 
 Mobile access is led by Carlos Palomino, Taylor Scott, and Ricardo Walker.

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Re: Visual input concerning screen brightness.

2011-06-10 Thread John Sanfilippo
Wow! I quite aggree with your need to dim the screen even further than it 
currently allows. I've resorted to the screen curtain (shift vo f11), though 
that's not really the answer.

Thanks for sharing.

John S


On Jun 9, 2011, at 10:25 PM, Tom Frank wrote:

Hi all,
Even at zero percent the screen is too bright for me to see maps on Google . Is 
there any way to dial down the brightness even further? It may be limited 
because screens are now LEDs and not CRTs. 
Tom Frank
vermont...@gmail.com



On Jun 8, 2011, at 10:21 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Why not just leave it at 0%, and then when a person needs to see the screen, 
 just press function F2 to brighten to the persons desired level.  Then, just 
 press Function F1 to lower brightness back to 0%?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 
 
 On Jun 8, 2011, at 9:22 PM, Shameless FanGirl wrote:
 
 Hi again all,
 
 For those of you who choose to dial your brightness down on your Mac, but 
 who choose to have it bright enough to be able to be adequately viewed, 
 should you need it via sighted assistance, I'm told it's still perfectly 
 fine at 10 to 15% brightness. Just thought I'd share that observation with 
 the list.
 
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Re: Visual input concerning screen brightness.

2011-06-10 Thread Esther
Hi John and Tom,

Are you sure that you're using the appropriate keyboard shortcut?  On my 
Macbook Pro, where I have checked the box for Use all F1, F2, etc. keys as 
standard function keys on the Keyboard tab of the Keyboard menu under 
System Preferences, using the Fn+F1 key to lower the display to where it says 
keyboard brightness is 0 per cent has the same effect as turning my screen 
curtain on, according to other users.  This also checks out if I try to use the 
iPhone Light Detector app; I get no sound when the iPhone is pointed to my 
laptop screen when the display brightness reported by VoiceOver is 0 per cent 
-- same as with my screen curtain turned on.  As soon as I start to raise my 
screen brightness with Fn+F2 the Light Detector app on the iPhone picks it 
up.  Of course, if I don't press the Fn key along with the F1 or F2 key, 
nothing happens to the brightness adjustment with the above settings.

Are you using external displays like with an iMac? Also, what setting do you 
use when you check your Displays menu under System Preferences?  Under the 
Display tab is the box for Automatically adjust brightness as ambient light 
changes checked or unchecked?  When you interact with the slider and push it 
all the way down to 0 does your screen go dark? 

Cheers,

Esther


On Jun 10, 2011, at 15:40, John Sanfilippo wrote:

 Wow! I quite aggree with your need to dim the screen even further than it 
 currently allows. I've resorted to the screen curtain (shift vo f11), though 
 that's not really the answer.
 
 Thanks for sharing.
 
 John S
 
 
 On Jun 9, 2011, at 10:25 PM, Tom Frank wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Even at zero percent the screen is too bright for me to see maps on Google . 
 Is there any way to dial down the brightness even further? It may be limited 
 because screens are now LEDs and not CRTs. 
 Tom Frank
 vermont...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Jun 8, 2011, at 10:21 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Why not just leave it at 0%, and then when a person needs to see the screen, 
 just press function F2 to brighten to the persons desired level.  Then, just 
 press Function F1 to lower brightness back to 0%?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 
 
 On Jun 8, 2011, at 9:22 PM, Shameless FanGirl wrote:
 
 Hi again all,
 
 For those of you who choose to dial your brightness down on your Mac, but 
 who choose to have it bright enough to be able to be adequately viewed, 
 should you need it via sighted assistance, I'm told it's still perfectly 
 fine at 10 to 15% brightness. Just thought I'd share that observation with 
 the list.
 

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Re: Visual input concerning screen brightness.

2011-06-10 Thread Dan
Hello,
When the screen brightness is set to 0, my family can still use the iMac's 
screen without any problems what so ever.

Dan

On Jun 10, 2011, at 7:38 PM, Esther wrote:

 Hi John and Tom,
 
 Are you sure that you're using the appropriate keyboard shortcut?  On my 
 Macbook Pro, where I have checked the box for Use all F1, F2, etc. keys as 
 standard function keys on the Keyboard tab of the Keyboard menu under 
 System Preferences, using the Fn+F1 key to lower the display to where it 
 says keyboard brightness is 0 per cent has the same effect as turning my 
 screen curtain on, according to other users.  This also checks out if I try 
 to use the iPhone Light Detector app; I get no sound when the iPhone is 
 pointed to my laptop screen when the display brightness reported by VoiceOver 
 is 0 per cent -- same as with my screen curtain turned on.  As soon as I 
 start to raise my screen brightness with Fn+F2 the Light Detector app on 
 the iPhone picks it up.  Of course, if I don't press the Fn key along with 
 the F1 or F2 key, nothing happens to the brightness adjustment with the above 
 settings.
 
 Are you using external displays like with an iMac? Also, what setting do you 
 use when you check your Displays menu under System Preferences?  Under the 
 Display tab is the box for Automatically adjust brightness as ambient light 
 changes checked or unchecked?  When you interact with the slider and push it 
 all the way down to 0 does your screen go dark? 
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 15:40, John Sanfilippo wrote:
 
 Wow! I quite aggree with your need to dim the screen even further than it 
 currently allows. I've resorted to the screen curtain (shift vo f11), though 
 that's not really the answer.
 
 Thanks for sharing.
 
 John S
 
 
 On Jun 9, 2011, at 10:25 PM, Tom Frank wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Even at zero percent the screen is too bright for me to see maps on Google . 
 Is there any way to dial down the brightness even further? It may be limited 
 because screens are now LEDs and not CRTs. 
 Tom Frank
 vermont...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Jun 8, 2011, at 10:21 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Why not just leave it at 0%, and then when a person needs to see the 
 screen, just press function F2 to brighten to the persons desired level.  
 Then, just press Function F1 to lower brightness back to 0%?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 
 
 On Jun 8, 2011, at 9:22 PM, Shameless FanGirl wrote:
 
 Hi again all,
 
 For those of you who choose to dial your brightness down on your Mac, but 
 who choose to have it bright enough to be able to be adequately viewed, 
 should you need it via sighted assistance, I'm told it's still perfectly 
 fine at 10 to 15% brightness. Just thought I'd share that observation with 
 the list.
 
 
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Re: time and hot keys?

2011-06-10 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

Its the same as windows really.  Just press command O when in iTunes to open 
the file browser, find the folder with your music, and just press return.  If I 
were you, I would also make the folder in which you have all your music stored 
iTunes default media folder.

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On Jun 10, 2011, at 11:41 AM, KliphSharrie wrote:

 Now that was very helpful.  But as for itunes, the music is already on my 
 Mac, I just don't know how to tell itunes where to go get it from.
 Kliphton SR
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 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com
 (Google Voice) 657-229-2105
 Sent from my IMac
 
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 5:37 AM, Colin M wrote:
 
 Hi Kliphton!
 OK To get the time working!
 Open vo utility [vo+f8 you should be in the general settings!
 Scroll to the [allow vo to be controlled by apple scripts] and check it!
 Next press command+8 that will take you to the commanders settings!
 Select the keyboard tab and next to that enable keyboard commander check box 
 and do so!
 After that you will have the option to choose either the left or right 
 options key!
 It should be set on the right one!
 Next to that is the table of shortcuts there should be some in there 
 already, one of which is the say time one!
 Of course this is where you'll put your own [when you make them]
 So if you want Skype on a key select add button you'll get a box to put the 
 letter you wish for Skype [ safari already has the S]
 Put in your letter of choice then go to the menu of commands button and open 
 it, you'll have all of the vo commands and others for you to scroll through!
 But at the bottom is custom commands open that and select applications then 
 you can find Skype and select it!
 So to open Skype from then on just press the option key and the main key you 
 chose for Skype!
 Just one more thing someone once asked if you could choose which option key 
 for each shortcut!
 Answer no, its either one or the other for all!
 As for your Itunes Question.
 Do you mean from CD's!
 hth
 On 10 Jun 2011, at 03:56, KliphSharrie wrote:
 
 So I read a post the other day, saying you could enable vo to read you the 
 time by hitting command T, but can't remember how to enable it.  Also, is 
 there a way to assign hot keys so you don't always have to go in to the 
 doc?  Lastly, what is the trick to importing the music in to itunes, I have 
 been in and out of itunes, and can't figure that one out.  Thanks.
 Kliphton SR
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webkit problems

2011-06-10 Thread Eric Oyen
hey guys.
I seem to be having problems with webkit today. I enter a location in the url 
bar and when I hit enter, nothing happens. in fact, multiple tries seem to have 
the same result, even after closing and reopening the app. is there something I 
am missing?

-Eric

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Re: Visual input concerning screen brightness.

2011-06-10 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi Esther,

This had me scratching my head as well.  I think this might be do to the 
computers we are using.  I believe you and I are using macbooks, and the ones 
who are having the this behavior seem to be using iMacs.  On the macbooks, 
turning screen brightness down to 0% effectively turns off the screen.  Even 
with screen curtain on, the screen is still technically bright.  The screen 
curtain just basically puts a black vale over the screen.  But it looks like 
the iMacs screen works similar to the iOS devices.  lowering screen brightness 
to 0% just turns off the backlight, not disable the screen like on the macbooks.

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www.mobileaccess.org



On Jun 10, 2011, at 10:38 PM, Esther wrote:

 Hi John and Tom,
 
 Are you sure that you're using the appropriate keyboard shortcut?  On my 
 Macbook Pro, where I have checked the box for Use all F1, F2, etc. keys as 
 standard function keys on the Keyboard tab of the Keyboard menu under 
 System Preferences, using the Fn+F1 key to lower the display to where it 
 says keyboard brightness is 0 per cent has the same effect as turning my 
 screen curtain on, according to other users.  This also checks out if I try 
 to use the iPhone Light Detector app; I get no sound when the iPhone is 
 pointed to my laptop screen when the display brightness reported by VoiceOver 
 is 0 per cent -- same as with my screen curtain turned on.  As soon as I 
 start to raise my screen brightness with Fn+F2 the Light Detector app on 
 the iPhone picks it up.  Of course, if I don't press the Fn key along with 
 the F1 or F2 key, nothing happens to the brightness adjustment with the above 
 settings.
 
 Are you using external displays like with an iMac? Also, what setting do you 
 use when you check your Displays menu under System Preferences?  Under the 
 Display tab is the box for Automatically adjust brightness as ambient light 
 changes checked or unchecked?  When you interact with the slider and push it 
 all the way down to 0 does your screen go dark? 
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 15:40, John Sanfilippo wrote:
 
 Wow! I quite aggree with your need to dim the screen even further than it 
 currently allows. I've resorted to the screen curtain (shift vo f11), though 
 that's not really the answer.
 
 Thanks for sharing.
 
 John S
 
 
 On Jun 9, 2011, at 10:25 PM, Tom Frank wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Even at zero percent the screen is too bright for me to see maps on Google . 
 Is there any way to dial down the brightness even further? It may be limited 
 because screens are now LEDs and not CRTs. 
 Tom Frank
 vermont...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Jun 8, 2011, at 10:21 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Why not just leave it at 0%, and then when a person needs to see the 
 screen, just press function F2 to brighten to the persons desired level.  
 Then, just press Function F1 to lower brightness back to 0%?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 
 
 On Jun 8, 2011, at 9:22 PM, Shameless FanGirl wrote:
 
 Hi again all,
 
 For those of you who choose to dial your brightness down on your Mac, but 
 who choose to have it bright enough to be able to be adequately viewed, 
 should you need it via sighted assistance, I'm told it's still perfectly 
 fine at 10 to 15% brightness. Just thought I'd share that observation with 
 the list.
 
 
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Re: Garageband: Joining Regions

2011-06-10 Thread Ricardo Walker
hi,

I don't think it reverting to the track before you cut out some parts.  I think 
its joining all the regions and chilling in the blank spots.  If you check the 
length of the region after you've joined them, I'm betting it will be shorter 
than what your expecting.



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On Jun 10, 2011, at 10:44 AM, Brandon Olivares wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I'm working on a recording in GarageBand. I have a track where I cut out a 
 few parts in the middle, so now there are several regions. I wanted to join 
 the regions, but when I do so, it reverts to the original track, readding the 
 parts that I deleted. Do you know why this might be and how to join it 
 without that happening?
 
 Thanks,
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Re: Visual input concerning screen brightness.

2011-06-10 Thread Esther
Hi Dan and Others,

I've never checked display brightness with an iMac screen.  On all the Mac 
laptop screens I've used, setting screen brightness to 0 seems to have the same 
effect as turning on the screen curtain.  That's why I asked whether this was 
an iMac and what the display settings were in terms of automatic adjustment 
under System Preferences.  I'd be really surprised if a laptop user said the 
screen stayed bright a 0 level display brightness setting.

Cheers,

Esther

On Jun 10, 2011, at 16:52, Dan wrote:

 Hello,
 When the screen brightness is set to 0, my family can still use the iMac's 
 screen without any problems what so ever.
 
 Dan
 
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 7:38 PM, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi John and Tom,
 
 Are you sure that you're using the appropriate keyboard shortcut?  On my 
 Macbook Pro, where I have checked the box for Use all F1, F2, etc. keys as 
 standard function keys on the Keyboard tab of the Keyboard menu under 
 System Preferences, using the Fn+F1 key to lower the display to where it 
 says keyboard brightness is 0 per cent has the same effect as turning my 
 screen curtain on, according to other users.  This also checks out if I try 
 to use the iPhone Light Detector app; I get no sound when the iPhone is 
 pointed to my laptop screen when the display brightness reported by 
 VoiceOver is 0 per cent -- same as with my screen curtain turned on.  As 
 soon as I start to raise my screen brightness with Fn+F2 the Light 
 Detector app on the iPhone picks it up.  Of course, if I don't press the Fn 
 key along with the F1 or F2 key, nothing happens to the brightness 
 adjustment with the above settings.
 
 Are you using external displays like with an iMac? Also, what setting do you 
 use when you check your Displays menu under System Preferences?  Under the 
 Display tab is the box for Automatically adjust brightness as ambient light 
 changes checked or unchecked?  When you interact with the slider and push 
 it all the way down to 0 does your screen go dark? 
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 15:40, John Sanfilippo wrote:
 
 Wow! I quite aggree with your need to dim the screen even further than it 
 currently allows. I've resorted to the screen curtain (shift vo f11), 
 though that's not really the answer.
 
 Thanks for sharing.
 
 John S
 
 
 On Jun 9, 2011, at 10:25 PM, Tom Frank wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Even at zero percent the screen is too bright for me to see maps on Google 
 . Is there any way to dial down the brightness even further? It may be 
 limited because screens are now LEDs and not CRTs. 
 Tom Frank
 vermont...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Jun 8, 2011, at 10:21 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Why not just leave it at 0%, and then when a person needs to see the 
 screen, just press function F2 to brighten to the persons desired level.  
 Then, just press Function F1 to lower brightness back to 0%?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 
 
 On Jun 8, 2011, at 9:22 PM, Shameless FanGirl wrote:
 
 Hi again all,
 
 For those of you who choose to dial your brightness down on your Mac, but 
 who choose to have it bright enough to be able to be adequately viewed, 
 should you need it via sighted assistance, I'm told it's still perfectly 
 fine at 10 to 15% brightness. Just thought I'd share that observation 
 with the list.
 
 

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Re: Visual input concerning screen brightness.

2011-06-10 Thread Tom Frank
Hi there Esther,,

I have an I Mac with a normal Apple wireless keyboard. Whether I'm in the 
Display control panel and turn the brightness to zero, or move up and down the 
brightness scale with F14 and F15, nothing seems to happen. 

The screen curtain works fine turning my screen totally dark. 

There is no sensor on the I Mac so, I assume, there is no automatic brightness 
selection option.

Any ideas? 

Tom Frank
vermont...@gmail.com



On Jun 10, 2011, at 10:38 PM, Esther wrote:

 Hi John and Tom,
 
 Are you sure that you're using the appropriate keyboard shortcut?  On my 
 Macbook Pro, where I have checked the box for Use all F1, F2, etc. keys as 
 standard function keys on the Keyboard tab of the Keyboard menu under 
 System Preferences, using the Fn+F1 key to lower the display to where it 
 says keyboard brightness is 0 per cent has the same effect as turning my 
 screen curtain on, according to other users.  This also checks out if I try 
 to use the iPhone Light Detector app; I get no sound when the iPhone is 
 pointed to my laptop screen when the display brightness reported by VoiceOver 
 is 0 per cent -- same as with my screen curtain turned on.  As soon as I 
 start to raise my screen brightness with Fn+F2 the Light Detector app on 
 the iPhone picks it up.  Of course, if I don't press the Fn key along with 
 the F1 or F2 key, nothing happens to the brightness adjustment with the above 
 settings.
 
 Are you using external displays like with an iMac? Also, what setting do you 
 use when you check your Displays menu under System Preferences?  Under the 
 Display tab is the box for Automatically adjust brightness as ambient light 
 changes checked or unchecked?  When you interact with the slider and push it 
 all the way down to 0 does your screen go dark? 
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 15:40, John Sanfilippo wrote:
 
 Wow! I quite aggree with your need to dim the screen even further than it 
 currently allows. I've resorted to the screen curtain (shift vo f11), though 
 that's not really the answer.
 
 Thanks for sharing.
 
 John S
 
 
 On Jun 9, 2011, at 10:25 PM, Tom Frank wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Even at zero percent the screen is too bright for me to see maps on Google . 
 Is there any way to dial down the brightness even further? It may be limited 
 because screens are now LEDs and not CRTs. 
 Tom Frank
 vermont...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Jun 8, 2011, at 10:21 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Why not just leave it at 0%, and then when a person needs to see the 
 screen, just press function F2 to brighten to the persons desired level.  
 Then, just press Function F1 to lower brightness back to 0%?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 
 
 On Jun 8, 2011, at 9:22 PM, Shameless FanGirl wrote:
 
 Hi again all,
 
 For those of you who choose to dial your brightness down on your Mac, but 
 who choose to have it bright enough to be able to be adequately viewed, 
 should you need it via sighted assistance, I'm told it's still perfectly 
 fine at 10 to 15% brightness. Just thought I'd share that observation with 
 the list.
 
 
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Re: Visual input concerning screen brightness.

2011-06-10 Thread Dan
Hello Esther,
This is true. I just had my son look at my MBP at 0 brightness and he said the 
screen was notat all visible.
HTH.

Dan

On Jun 10, 2011, at 8:02 PM, Esther wrote:

 Hi Dan and Others,
 
 I've never checked display brightness with an iMac screen.  On all the Mac 
 laptop screens I've used, setting screen brightness to 0 seems to have the 
 same effect as turning on the screen curtain.  That's why I asked whether 
 this was an iMac and what the display settings were in terms of automatic 
 adjustment under System Preferences.  I'd be really surprised if a laptop 
 user said the screen stayed bright a 0 level display brightness setting.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 16:52, Dan wrote:
 
 Hello,
 When the screen brightness is set to 0, my family can still use the iMac's 
 screen without any problems what so ever.
 
 Dan
 
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 7:38 PM, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi John and Tom,
 
 Are you sure that you're using the appropriate keyboard shortcut?  On my 
 Macbook Pro, where I have checked the box for Use all F1, F2, etc. keys as 
 standard function keys on the Keyboard tab of the Keyboard menu under 
 System Preferences, using the Fn+F1 key to lower the display to where it 
 says keyboard brightness is 0 per cent has the same effect as turning my 
 screen curtain on, according to other users.  This also checks out if I try 
 to use the iPhone Light Detector app; I get no sound when the iPhone is 
 pointed to my laptop screen when the display brightness reported by 
 VoiceOver is 0 per cent -- same as with my screen curtain turned on.  As 
 soon as I start to raise my screen brightness with Fn+F2 the Light 
 Detector app on the iPhone picks it up.  Of course, if I don't press the 
 Fn key along with the F1 or F2 key, nothing happens to the brightness 
 adjustment with the above settings.
 
 Are you using external displays like with an iMac? Also, what setting do 
 you use when you check your Displays menu under System Preferences?  
 Under the Display tab is the box for Automatically adjust brightness as 
 ambient light changes checked or unchecked?  When you interact with the 
 slider and push it all the way down to 0 does your screen go dark? 
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 15:40, John Sanfilippo wrote:
 
 Wow! I quite aggree with your need to dim the screen even further than it 
 currently allows. I've resorted to the screen curtain (shift vo f11), 
 though that's not really the answer.
 
 Thanks for sharing.
 
 John S
 
 
 On Jun 9, 2011, at 10:25 PM, Tom Frank wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Even at zero percent the screen is too bright for me to see maps on Google 
 . Is there any way to dial down the brightness even further? It may be 
 limited because screens are now LEDs and not CRTs. 
 Tom Frank
 vermont...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Jun 8, 2011, at 10:21 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Why not just leave it at 0%, and then when a person needs to see the 
 screen, just press function F2 to brighten to the persons desired level.  
 Then, just press Function F1 to lower brightness back to 0%?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 
 
 On Jun 8, 2011, at 9:22 PM, Shameless FanGirl wrote:
 
 Hi again all,
 
 For those of you who choose to dial your brightness down on your Mac, 
 but who choose to have it bright enough to be able to be adequately 
 viewed, should you need it via sighted assistance, I'm told it's still 
 perfectly fine at 10 to 15% brightness. Just thought I'd share that 
 observation with the list.
 
 
 
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Re: Visual input concerning screen brightness.

2011-06-10 Thread Dan
Another comment regarding screen curtain on my 27 inch iMac late 2010. Both my 
wife and son said that when the screen curtain is on, the screen is still lit 
and there is a cursor on the screen. Again, this is a brightness setting of 0.
HTH.
Dan

On Jun 10, 2011, at 8:02 PM, Esther wrote:

 Hi Dan and Others,
 
 I've never checked display brightness with an iMac screen.  On all the Mac 
 laptop screens I've used, setting screen brightness to 0 seems to have the 
 same effect as turning on the screen curtain.  That's why I asked whether 
 this was an iMac and what the display settings were in terms of automatic 
 adjustment under System Preferences.  I'd be really surprised if a laptop 
 user said the screen stayed bright a 0 level display brightness setting.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 16:52, Dan wrote:
 
 Hello,
 When the screen brightness is set to 0, my family can still use the iMac's 
 screen without any problems what so ever.
 
 Dan
 
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 7:38 PM, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi John and Tom,
 
 Are you sure that you're using the appropriate keyboard shortcut?  On my 
 Macbook Pro, where I have checked the box for Use all F1, F2, etc. keys as 
 standard function keys on the Keyboard tab of the Keyboard menu under 
 System Preferences, using the Fn+F1 key to lower the display to where it 
 says keyboard brightness is 0 per cent has the same effect as turning my 
 screen curtain on, according to other users.  This also checks out if I try 
 to use the iPhone Light Detector app; I get no sound when the iPhone is 
 pointed to my laptop screen when the display brightness reported by 
 VoiceOver is 0 per cent -- same as with my screen curtain turned on.  As 
 soon as I start to raise my screen brightness with Fn+F2 the Light 
 Detector app on the iPhone picks it up.  Of course, if I don't press the 
 Fn key along with the F1 or F2 key, nothing happens to the brightness 
 adjustment with the above settings.
 
 Are you using external displays like with an iMac? Also, what setting do 
 you use when you check your Displays menu under System Preferences?  
 Under the Display tab is the box for Automatically adjust brightness as 
 ambient light changes checked or unchecked?  When you interact with the 
 slider and push it all the way down to 0 does your screen go dark? 
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 15:40, John Sanfilippo wrote:
 
 Wow! I quite aggree with your need to dim the screen even further than it 
 currently allows. I've resorted to the screen curtain (shift vo f11), 
 though that's not really the answer.
 
 Thanks for sharing.
 
 John S
 
 
 On Jun 9, 2011, at 10:25 PM, Tom Frank wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Even at zero percent the screen is too bright for me to see maps on Google 
 . Is there any way to dial down the brightness even further? It may be 
 limited because screens are now LEDs and not CRTs. 
 Tom Frank
 vermont...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Jun 8, 2011, at 10:21 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Why not just leave it at 0%, and then when a person needs to see the 
 screen, just press function F2 to brighten to the persons desired level.  
 Then, just press Function F1 to lower brightness back to 0%?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 
 
 On Jun 8, 2011, at 9:22 PM, Shameless FanGirl wrote:
 
 Hi again all,
 
 For those of you who choose to dial your brightness down on your Mac, 
 but who choose to have it bright enough to be able to be adequately 
 viewed, should you need it via sighted assistance, I'm told it's still 
 perfectly fine at 10 to 15% brightness. Just thought I'd share that 
 observation with the list.
 
 
 
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Re: [Bulk] Re: editing?

2011-06-10 Thread John Sanfilippo
Hi Colin,

I'm joining this thread late, so I may be missing something very important.

But am I to understand that this is something like sticky select, where you 
drop a virtual anchor at point A, move to point B without holding a shift key, 
then dropping a virtual  end marker at point B?

Because I just tried this on your message and here's what I got:

1, When I got to your message from Mail's inbox, I pressed enter to read the 
message. 
2, I moved just before You can also use, and pressed command plus return. I 
got a sound, as if this is not allowed.
3, As I moved around, using only arrows,  I could hear nothing at all.

I've tried interacting with the text to no avail.

I'm stumped.

Might you clarify how this works.

Thanks.

John S




On Jun 8, 2011, at 5:08 PM, Colin M wrote:

Hi there!
You can also use command+return/enter this is useful for picking text from 
within a lot of text!
Just go to the first word you wish to copy and press that command then scroll 
down to the last word of the text [there should be a sound] then press that 
command again!
All the text between will be selected for you to copy or delete!
hth Colin

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Re: Visual input concerning screen brightness.

2011-06-10 Thread Esther
Hi Dan, Tom, Ricardo, and Others,

OK, here's the results about iMac screen brightness for all the inquiring minds 
that want to know.  Apparently, the level of screen brightness is, indeed, 
characteristic of the iMac backlight, and not a property of Macbooks.  I did 
some Google searching, and the first item I turned up was a program to dim Mac 
monitors.  There are apparently a bunch of these, but here's the first one I 
found, which is a free program named Brightness Control with the subtitle 
Dim your monitor easily:
http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/10429/brightness-control

That's the macupdate page for the program, and what's interesting is that there 
are other, similar programs to dim iMac monitors.  However, one of the comments 
claims that although the program dims the pixels on the screen, it doesn't turn 
off the backlight, so the amount of energy being used is the same -- as though 
you had the screen curtain on.  Also, apparently the color balance gets thrown 
off when the program is run.  This still might be useful to Tom.

The other interesting page was from a page by Midwestern Mac, LLC, and it's a 
blog post titled How to Save 20 Watts while Running an iMac (or another Mac):
http://www.midwesternmac.com/tutorial/2009-05-21/how-save-20-watts-while-running-imac

You can read it with Safari reader (Command-Shift-R on the page to read the 
article text without distracting links).  The quick summary is that the blogger 
tested his 2008 iMac connected to a UPS that also monitored the power usage of 
connected devices.  Even with the display set to lowest brightness, the 
computer used about the same amount of power as a 77 watt light bulb.  Turning 
the screen of the iMac off dropped that to 30 watts, and putting the computer 
to sleep took that down to 4 watts.  But because the backlight on the monitor 
was always on, as long as the screen was turned on, it continued to use a good 
deal of power.  My guess is that they can't afford to sustain that kind of 
power consumption on laptops because they're often run on battery power.  
Anyway, here's an excerpted quote from the blog article giving the stats.  You 
can read more details about the experiment using the link that I gave above:
begin quote
Detailed stats, for those so inclined:

• Computer on, running a bunch of processes, full brightness = 125 Watts
• Computer on, highest brightness = 100 Watts
• Computer on, lowest brightness = 77 Watts
• Screen turned off (press Shift + Control + Eject) = 30 Watts
• Computer sleeping = 4 Watts average
• Computer off = 0 Watts
end quote

Very interesting, since it explains that all these iMac monitors don't really 
get down to 0 light level when you decrease brightness.  It also means that 
even if you dim the screen pixels even further, by using a program like the one 
I mentioned at the start of this post, you're still using power that will show 
up in your electricity bill.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther
On Jun 10, 2011, at 17:24, Dan wrote:

 Another comment regarding screen curtain on my 27 inch iMac late 2010. Both 
 my wife and son said that when the screen curtain is on, the screen is still 
 lit and there is a cursor on the screen. Again, this is a brightness setting 
 of 0.
 HTH.
 Dan
 
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 8:02 PM, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi Dan and Others,
 
 I've never checked display brightness with an iMac screen.  On all the Mac 
 laptop screens I've used, setting screen brightness to 0 seems to have the 
 same effect as turning on the screen curtain.  That's why I asked whether 
 this was an iMac and what the display settings were in terms of automatic 
 adjustment under System Preferences.  I'd be really surprised if a laptop 
 user said the screen stayed bright a 0 level display brightness setting.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 16:52, Dan wrote:
 
 Hello,
 When the screen brightness is set to 0, my family can still use the iMac's 
 screen without any problems what so ever.
 
 Dan
 
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 7:38 PM, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi John and Tom,
 
 Are you sure that you're using the appropriate keyboard shortcut?  On my 
 Macbook Pro, where I have checked the box for Use all F1, F2, etc. keys 
 as standard function keys on the Keyboard tab of the Keyboard menu 
 under System Preferences, using the Fn+F1 key to lower the display to 
 where it says keyboard brightness is 0 per cent has the same effect as 
 turning my screen curtain on, according to other users.  This also checks 
 out if I try to use the iPhone Light Detector app; I get no sound when 
 the iPhone is pointed to my laptop screen when the display brightness 
 reported by VoiceOver is 0 per cent -- same as with my screen curtain 
 turned on.  As soon as I start to raise my screen brightness with Fn+F2 
 the Light Detector app on the iPhone picks it up.  Of course, if I don't 
 press the Fn key along with the F1 or F2 key, nothing happens to the 
 brightness adjustment with 

Re: [Bulk] Re: editing?

2011-06-10 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, John,

The command you want to use at the beginning and end of text is 
command-option-return. It is indeed method of marking text at start and end.

HTH
Teresa
On Jun 10, 2011, at 9:15 PM, John Sanfilippo wrote:

 Hi Colin,
 
 I'm joining this thread late, so I may be missing something very important.
 
 But am I to understand that this is something like sticky select, where you 
 drop a virtual anchor at point A, move to point B without holding a shift 
 key, then dropping a virtual  end marker at point B?
 
 Because I just tried this on your message and here's what I got:
 
 1, When I got to your message from Mail's inbox, I pressed enter to read the 
 message. 
 2, I moved just before You can also use, and pressed command plus return. I 
 got a sound, as if this is not allowed.
 3, As I moved around, using only arrows,  I could hear nothing at all.
 
 I've tried interacting with the text to no avail.
 
 I'm stumped.
 
 Might you clarify how this works.
 
 Thanks.
 
 John S
 
 
 
 
 On Jun 8, 2011, at 5:08 PM, Colin M wrote:
 
 Hi there!
 You can also use command+return/enter this is useful for picking text from 
 within a lot of text!
 Just go to the first word you wish to copy and press that command then scroll 
 down to the last word of the text [there should be a sound] then press that 
 command again!
 All the text between will be selected for you to copy or delete!
 hth Colin
 
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jodconverter install for the mac

2011-06-10 Thread William Windels
Hello,
After looking on the internet, I found a plugin for openoffice to convert all 
kind of files with openoffice.
it's called: jodconvertor and is a java file with the extension jar.

The package has also a jss file and perhaps some more.
I don't know how to install.
If I simply open the file, I receive the message that the file couldn't be 
opened.

Any help or questions are very welcome,

best regards,
William Windels

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Re: Cohrection, Was [Bulk] Re: editing?

2011-06-10 Thread Teresa Cochran

Oops, my brain went away during my last post. The command you really want is 
control-option-return, more commonly known as VO-return.

Teresa
On Jun 10, 2011, at 9:24 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

 Hi, John,
 
 The command you want to use at the beginning and end of text is 
 command-option-return. It is indeed method of marking text at start and end.
 
 HTH
 Teresa
 On Jun 10, 2011, at 9:15 PM, John Sanfilippo wrote:
 
 Hi Colin,
 
 I'm joining this thread late, so I may be missing something very important.
 
 But am I to understand that this is something like sticky select, where 
 you drop a virtual anchor at point A, move to point B without holding a 
 shift key, then dropping a virtual  end marker at point B?
 
 Because I just tried this on your message and here's what I got:
 
 1, When I got to your message from Mail's inbox, I pressed enter to read the 
 message. 
 2, I moved just before You can also use, and pressed command plus return. 
 I got a sound, as if this is not allowed.
 3, As I moved around, using only arrows,  I could hear nothing at all.
 
 I've tried interacting with the text to no avail.
 
 I'm stumped.
 
 Might you clarify how this works.
 
 Thanks.
 
 John S
 
 
 
 
 On Jun 8, 2011, at 5:08 PM, Colin M wrote:
 
 Hi there!
 You can also use command+return/enter this is useful for picking text from 
 within a lot of text!
 Just go to the first word you wish to copy and press that command then 
 scroll down to the last word of the text [there should be a sound] then 
 press that command again!
 All the text between will be selected for you to copy or delete!
 hth Colin
 
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re: app suggestions?

2011-06-10 Thread Ezzie Buenito

hello,

Other than AIM, I have not seen accessible apps that will 
integrate Facebook and Twitter together.
There is certainly a Mac version of AIM. To download, go to 
www.aim.com and click the downloads link. Make sure you 
download AIM for Mac.


HTH,
Ezzie
- Original Message -
From: KliphSharrie skhleirpehctcoens7...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 04:42:27 -0500
Subject: app suggestions?

OKay, I've seen a bunch of threads suggesting various facebook 
and twitter apps, along with IM apps.  Is there something that is 
accessible that intergrates all of them?  And is there a mac 
version of Aim, that was a big one for me on windows, since I was 
able to bring twitter and fb together at the same time.  Thanks.


Kliphton SR
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(Google Voice) 657-229-2105
Sent from my IMac

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sever/network issues

2011-06-10 Thread carolyn Haas
Hi guys:
I've recently had my internet go crazy.  I can't get VO to go to the status 
menu.  Vo-MM only stops at the Apple menu.  CTL-F8 says, system UI server.  
And during Apple training today, Melissa noticed that my cursor tracking was 
intermittently getting separated.

I think I'm connected now, as Ive got 33 new messages here.  But, it may be to 
the network next door.

Any help in understanding any of this would be very much appreciated.  Don't 
think I can sleep with my Mac out of sourest. (I know, that's weird. Isn't it?:)

TIA for any help.

Carolyn

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