Re: lion clean install
I failed also to drag the installesd.dmg on the flash memory, I ended up creating a dvd and on imac mc508 from mid last year it installed properly using the clean install method, so as well on mac mini standard configuration 2.4ghz and as of yet 2gb ram which will be upgraded to 8 like the imac. The weirdest and most difficult install was on the macbook 13inch white from Februray 2009 when it was purchased, used same dvd to make a clean install and it kept hanging on me after 24percent and kept saying downloading additional components and when reaching 100percent a dialog box popped up saying it failed to download. I ended up putting snow leopard again then upgraded it and finally used the contents of the dmg file to install and yes it downloaded components and it is working fine. If somebody can solve this mistery of dragging the dmg file to the usb memory I would be more than happy. Wonder what happens if we format the flash drive in disk utility with mac os x journalled choosing the guid layout and at the end copy the contents of the dvd or install lion.app directly in the root of the flash drive keeping the structure of course but we use finder instead, I didn't try it and have no vision to tell about any logo of any sort just wanting to do it. Finally how would one boot from the flash memory and the most important thing how to know when to press command f5 as it doesn't make spinning sound that stops like the dvd, any clues? Frustrated because I couldn't make a bootable lion flash drive. Original message: Hey everyone, ok, here is my experience so far. One of my other macs is doing the install now. Purchased the app and downloaded it. Used disk utility to make a bootable DVD, also attempted to make a bootable flash drive, but disk utility seems to require you to drag the disk image to the destination, tried that but couldn't seem to get that to work. So I used super duper to clone the image to my flash drive, actually it's an 8 GB micro SD card and a card reader, but should be the same. Attempted to boot the mac using the flash drive first, that didn't seem to work, the apple logo displayed for a while, then the screen stayed blank, waited for about 15 minutes, then I decided to try the DVD I made. Having better luck with that, mac booted, started voiceover and used disk utility to erase my hard drive, since I want to do a clean install. Now comes the interesting part, it wants you to enter your apple ID and password, I guess to verify that you have purchased 10.7. There are actually 2 windows open here, one is the installer, and there is another window behind that where you need to enter your user name and password. I know a few users have had problems with this, to get around it, press control option function F2 twice. When booted from the DVD, the function keys are configured to do hardware functions. You need to do this key stroke twice, the first time reads the window title, the second time will open the window chooser menu where you can switch to the sign in window. After entering the user name and password, it's downloading components, I figured it would just use what was already on the DVD, it's probably downloading the same thing, but there doesn't seem to be a way around that. Also, the customize option was disabled, so hopefully it will not install all of the multilanguage support, since I don't really need that or all the print drivers. Not sure why the flash drive method did not work, but so far the DVD is working. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: lion clean install
Hello, In the shop where I bought mi macbook in 2009, they told me that you can re-install (remove your hd) lion from the recovery-partition, booting with command+r. The recovery-partition is a hidden partition so, should not be removed. Burning a dvd is not necessary. But, before I want to reinstall lion I would like to backup all my passwords. This seems not that easy. Also, I have a selfmade template for pages that is saved in my templates where I can open it from inside pages. But , I can't find how to backup this. Thx for your answers, best regards, William Op 30-jul.-2011, om 08:44 heeft Georges Zaynoun het volgende geschreven: I failed also to drag the installesd.dmg on the flash memory, I ended up creating a dvd and on imac mc508 from mid last year it installed properly using the clean install method, so as well on mac mini standard configuration 2.4ghz and as of yet 2gb ram which will be upgraded to 8 like the imac. The weirdest and most difficult install was on the macbook 13inch white from Februray 2009 when it was purchased, used same dvd to make a clean install and it kept hanging on me after 24percent and kept saying downloading additional components and when reaching 100percent a dialog box popped up saying it failed to download. I ended up putting snow leopard again then upgraded it and finally used the contents of the dmg file to install and yes it downloaded components and it is working fine. If somebody can solve this mistery of dragging the dmg file to the usb memory I would be more than happy. Wonder what happens if we format the flash drive in disk utility with mac os x journalled choosing the guid layout and at the end copy the contents of the dvd or install lion.app directly in the root of the flash drive keeping the structure of course but we use finder instead, I didn't try it and have no vision to tell about any logo of any sort just wanting to do it. Finally how would one boot from the flash memory and the most important thing how to know when to press command f5 as it doesn't make spinning sound that stops like the dvd, any clues? Frustrated because I couldn't make a bootable lion flash drive. Original message: Hey everyone, ok, here is my experience so far. One of my other macs is doing the install now. Purchased the app and downloaded it. Used disk utility to make a bootable DVD, also attempted to make a bootable flash drive, but disk utility seems to require you to drag the disk image to the destination, tried that but couldn't seem to get that to work. So I used super duper to clone the image to my flash drive, actually it's an 8 GB micro SD card and a card reader, but should be the same. Attempted to boot the mac using the flash drive first, that didn't seem to work, the apple logo displayed for a while, then the screen stayed blank, waited for about 15 minutes, then I decided to try the DVD I made. Having better luck with that, mac booted, started voiceover and used disk utility to erase my hard drive, since I want to do a clean install. Now comes the interesting part, it wants you to enter your apple ID and password, I guess to verify that you have purchased 10.7. There are actually 2 windows open here, one is the installer, and there is another window behind that where you need to enter your user name and password. I know a few users have had problems with this, to get around it, press control option function F2 twice. When booted from the DVD, the function keys are configured to do hardware functions. You need to do this key stroke twice, the first time reads the window title, the second time will open the window chooser menu where you can switch to the sign in window. After entering the user name and password, it's downloading components, I figured it would just use what was already on the DVD, it's probably downloading the same thing, but there doesn't seem to be a way around that. Also, the customize option was disabled, so hopefully it will not install all of the multilanguage support, since I don't really need that or all the print drivers. Not sure why the flash drive method did not work, but so far the DVD is working. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group.
Java
Hi Folks, I have heard that now you have to download Java for Lion from the Internet? Is this true? Thanks for any answer. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Problem with VoiceOver not starting in Lion
Running without a display gives unpredictable and unreliable results, especially with Safari. Once you start VO from within your account, it should start up automatically when you log back in. You can leave it running when you exit your account. If you shut it down before you log out and don't restart it, it won't come back automatically when you log in. HTH, Teresa On Jul 29, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Joseph Norton wrote: Hi: Just upgraded to Lion and everything works satisfactorily, except that, when I boot up, VO does not automatically come up after log in. VO works fine in the Login screen, but, won't automatically come on after login. I believe the problem may be that I am running without a display, since I'm using a Mac Mini and this has worked ok, for the most part. If there are any Mac Mini lion users out there, could you try booting up without your display plugged in and see if VO comes up? If it doesn't, you should be able to hit cmd-f5 to get it to come up. It's not enough to turn the monitor off, it needs to be disconnected to duplicate the conditions I'm working under. If this happens, can any of you suggest a work-around? I can get an old monitor and physically connect it. It doesn't work, but, should provide the hardware functionality needed to correct this problem, if that's what it is. It's not a big deal, although I'm going to write to the accessibility team at Apple to see what their thoughts are. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
List ordering and jumping around in mail
Hi all! A couple of things in mail to ask you guys about: First of all, I tried reordering list order in mail as desending so that when I deleted a message the next message in order would automatically be the next message vo sees. But when I did that, I wasn't able to delete anything at all and vo would lost focus. Then, when I went back to reset the list order to ascending, even though vo reported that there was 19 items in the I think it was the message menu, only the first 12 items were shown. I mean, the rest of the menu items just disappeared. Can someone please give some pointers on how to set mail up so mail processing is easier expedited? For now, just one more question: Where do I go to disable automatic spell checking in mail? More questions to come of course, grin Lovin' my Mac BP! Johnny CakesChilelli -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Problem with VoiceOver not starting in Lion
Hi: You're right. VoiceOver is supposed to start once it's run, as long as it's not turned off. This was its behavior in Snow Leopard, regardless of the presence or absence of a monitor. However, they must have changed something in Lion that keeps this from happening. Here's another thing to note. When I press Command-f5, VO starts and I hear something like comm.apple.dock.extra. Wonder if this has anything to do with this. I will try to get an old monitor of mine to see if having the hardware present helps. I believe it will. On 7/30/11, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: Running without a display gives unpredictable and unreliable results, especially with Safari. Once you start VO from within your account, it should start up automatically when you log back in. You can leave it running when you exit your account. If you shut it down before you log out and don't restart it, it won't come back automatically when you log in. HTH, Teresa On Jul 29, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Joseph Norton wrote: Hi: Just upgraded to Lion and everything works satisfactorily, except that, when I boot up, VO does not automatically come up after log in. VO works fine in the Login screen, but, won't automatically come on after login. I believe the problem may be that I am running without a display, since I'm using a Mac Mini and this has worked ok, for the most part. If there are any Mac Mini lion users out there, could you try booting up without your display plugged in and see if VO comes up? If it doesn't, you should be able to hit cmd-f5 to get it to come up. It's not enough to turn the monitor off, it needs to be disconnected to duplicate the conditions I'm working under. If this happens, can any of you suggest a work-around? I can get an old monitor and physically connect it. It doesn't work, but, should provide the hardware functionality needed to correct this problem, if that's what it is. It's not a big deal, although I'm going to write to the accessibility team at Apple to see what their thoughts are. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a most paculiar Safari behavior
Hi there! I'm still on sl and have just upgraded to safari 5.1 and a couple of other updates! I did not update Itunes yet, but I've already noticed that safari issue on mine so I think it is indeed a safari thing! And I've also got that reading all misspelled words in mail when just going through the list! So annoying hope they fix that! All the best! Colin On 30 Jul 2011, at 06:56, Shen wrote: Hi, yes I am noticing this too. Although I am getting this more after I installed Lion. I don't know if this is because of Lion, or because of Safari 5.1. I have to manually interact with the html section more often than before. Before, VoiceOver was better at interacting with html content automatically. On Jul 29, 2011, at 1:13 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Okay. Here's the thing I'm finding. Sometimes, when I open Safari, the VO curser doesn't go directly to my home page. Every time I open a page in a session where that happens, I have to manually interact with each and every page. Keep in mind the following two facts. 1. I have my VO set so that with every web page that loads, the VO curser is supposed to go directly to it. 2. I was noticing the behaviour described above even before I installed Lion and was using the latest Safari version just issued the same day Lion came out. Anybody else notice this? IF so, got any suggestions on whether this will be fixed in 10.7.1 or 10.7.2 or perhaps a setting I might adjust differently? Thanks. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: InfoVox fix for Lion
Hello Missy, Sorry for replying so late. The fix runs the Infovox iVox.app with administration privileges, because that's the only way in Lion for it to write the license key to the file that is checked when you use the voices. This means that if you registered your voices in Snow Leopard and then upgraded to Lion this file will already exist, so you won't need to run Infovox iVox.app, and therefore no need for the fix. Except if you buy additional voices. Then when you go in Lion to register them you'll need it. Anyway, this is supposed to be permanently fixed in a free update coming out soon. HTH, André On Jul 26, 2011, at 1:05 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hmm. I wonder what this file does. I installed lion, and my infovox voices worked just fine. Admittedly, I just did the upgrade, so maybe that's why. I'll still download this file in case I need it in the future. Am currently back to using snow leopard, so perhaps I will need this next time I attempt to use lion. Thanks for sharing. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of André Nuno Soares Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 8:03 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: InfoVox fix for Lion Hello all, My apologies if this has already been discussed, but I'm a bit behind on my mails. If you have InfoVox iVox voices from www.assistiveware.com, you'll need to download their fix to be able to register those voices in lion: http://www.assistiveware.com/voicedownload.php HTH, André -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: a most paculiar Safari behavior
Hi! I'm still running SL, but have the updated saphari. I can tell you that this particular problem is not lion-related. The new saphari just isn't as intuitive as the previous version was. It's not a huge deal for me just because I was still learning it, so didn't have any established habits in using it or anything, but on the other hand, it seems a lot harder for a newbie to use than it used to be. Not sure if that makes sense or not, but I just wanted to say that this is one problem which, at least so far as I can tell, has absolutely nothing to do with lion. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shen Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 1:57 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: a most paculiar Safari behavior Hi, yes I am noticing this too. Although I am getting this more after I installed Lion. I don't know if this is because of Lion, or because of Safari 5.1. I have to manually interact with the html section more often than before. Before, VoiceOver was better at interacting with html content automatically. On Jul 29, 2011, at 1:13 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Okay. Here's the thing I'm finding. Sometimes, when I open Safari, the VO curser doesn't go directly to my home page. Every time I open a page in a session where that happens, I have to manually interact with each and every page. Keep in mind the following two facts. 1. I have my VO set so that with every web page that loads, the VO curser is supposed to go directly to it. 2. I was noticing the behavior described above even before I installed Lion and was using the latest Safari version just issued the same day Lion came out. Anybody else notice this? IF so, got any suggestions on whether this will be fixed in 10.7.1 or 10.7.2 or perhaps a setting I might adjust differently? Thanks. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Problem with VoiceOver not starting in Lion
Hi! I don't know if the moniter will help or not. I got the com.apple.doc.extra thing on my macbook pro while I had Lion installed. I know it's a simple thing to get rid of, but it drove me bananas, and is 1 of the reasons I chose to go back to snow leopard for the time being. Lion always started talking automatically, eventually, but I was always stuck in that com.apple.doc.extra thing. I really, really hope that that problem gets fixed in a future lion release. Good luck, and I hope you're able to get it working. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 5:26 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Problem with VoiceOver not starting in Lion Hi: You're right. VoiceOver is supposed to start once it's run, as long as it's not turned off. This was its behavior in Snow Leopard, regardless of the presence or absence of a monitor. However, they must have changed something in Lion that keeps this from happening. Here's another thing to note. When I press Command-f5, VO starts and I hear something like comm.apple.dock.extra. Wonder if this has anything to do with this. I will try to get an old monitor of mine to see if having the hardware present helps. I believe it will. On 7/30/11, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: Running without a display gives unpredictable and unreliable results, especially with Safari. Once you start VO from within your account, it should start up automatically when you log back in. You can leave it running when you exit your account. If you shut it down before you log out and don't restart it, it won't come back automatically when you log in. HTH, Teresa On Jul 29, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Joseph Norton wrote: Hi: Just upgraded to Lion and everything works satisfactorily, except that, when I boot up, VO does not automatically come up after log in. VO works fine in the Login screen, but, won't automatically come on after login. I believe the problem may be that I am running without a display, since I'm using a Mac Mini and this has worked ok, for the most part. If there are any Mac Mini lion users out there, could you try booting up without your display plugged in and see if VO comes up? If it doesn't, you should be able to hit cmd-f5 to get it to come up. It's not enough to turn the monitor off, it needs to be disconnected to duplicate the conditions I'm working under. If this happens, can any of you suggest a work-around? I can get an old monitor and physically connect it. It doesn't work, but, should provide the hardware functionality needed to correct this problem, if that's what it is. It's not a big deal, although I'm going to write to the accessibility team at Apple to see what their thoughts are. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: InfoVox fix for Lion
Hi! Thanks for clearing that up. For now, I'm not running lion, but like I said, I've saved the file in case I end up needing it whenever I do decide to try a clean lion install. Have a great day! Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of André Nuno Soares Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 6:27 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: InfoVox fix for Lion Hello Missy, Sorry for replying so late. The fix runs the Infovox iVox.app with administration privileges, because that's the only way in Lion for it to write the license key to the file that is checked when you use the voices. This means that if you registered your voices in Snow Leopard and then upgraded to Lion this file will already exist, so you won't need to run Infovox iVox.app, and therefore no need for the fix. Except if you buy additional voices. Then when you go in Lion to register them you'll need it. Anyway, this is supposed to be permanently fixed in a free update coming out soon. HTH, André On Jul 26, 2011, at 1:05 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hmm. I wonder what this file does. I installed lion, and my infovox voices worked just fine. Admittedly, I just did the upgrade, so maybe that's why. I'll still download this file in case I need it in the future. Am currently back to using snow leopard, so perhaps I will need this next time I attempt to use lion. Thanks for sharing. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of André Nuno Soares Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 8:03 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: InfoVox fix for Lion Hello all, My apologies if this has already been discussed, but I'm a bit behind on my mails. If you have InfoVox iVox voices from www.assistiveware.com, you'll need to download their fix to be able to register those voices in lion: http://www.assistiveware.com/voicedownload.php HTH, André -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Extremely frustrating problem on Web site
I can confirm this. Later today I'm going to look at the page more, I suspect they are using something other than a link or button to make that clickable, I suspect this is a website issue rather than a safari/webkit/lion issue. I'm going to try it on windows and see how those screen readers handle it. On Jul 29, 2011, at 11:55 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: I've never faced this one before. I am attempting to purchase an e-gift card for one of my daughter's friends at candyfavorites.com. I tried using the item chooser and the search function to find gift certificates. The latter yields that annoying error sound. The item chooser tells me gift certificates tab 2 of 4 I attempt to choose this and nothing happens. What does this mean? What tabs? Anyone have a clue what is going on here? Thanks. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Lion recovery with voiceover
Hello, I think you can't use wifi from inside the repair program and, why should you do so? Best regards william Mvg william Windels Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone Op 29-jul.-2011 om 19:00 heeft Sakamoto Mitsugu mits...@argv.org het volgende geschreven: Hello all. I tried os x lion recovery with voiceover. I use lion with voiceover Japanese Kyoko. I use iMac late 2010. start up recovery partition. and cmd-f5. the voiceover start up here. and then I want to connect Wi-Fi network. but I don't understand connect wi-fi network to use voiceover. vo-m m is not work. what will be doing solved this problem? thanks so a lot. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Web item rotor
Hi I was missing the visited and non-visited links from the SL version of the rotor, So was pleased to find I could add these categories to the Lion rotor. However, VO doesn't speak what the links are to. Am I doing something wrong? There doesn't seem to be much point in being able to add these categories if it won't tell you what they are. Thanks A -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Problem with VoiceOver not starting in Lion
The comApple Extra thing still happens to me every single time I start my Mac book Pro. Just a simple command+tab seems to get rid of that. Mostly, though, I just leave my Mac book Pro on so Time machine can do it's thing. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jul 30, 2011, at 5:44 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hi! I don't know if the moniter will help or not. I got the com.apple.doc.extra thing on my macbook pro while I had Lion installed. I know it's a simple thing to get rid of, but it drove me bananas, and is 1 of the reasons I chose to go back to snow leopard for the time being. Lion always started talking automatically, eventually, but I was always stuck in that com.apple.doc.extra thing. I really, really hope that that problem gets fixed in a future lion release. Good luck, and I hope you're able to get it working. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 5:26 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Problem with VoiceOver not starting in Lion Hi: You're right. VoiceOver is supposed to start once it's run, as long as it's not turned off. This was its behavior in Snow Leopard, regardless of the presence or absence of a monitor. However, they must have changed something in Lion that keeps this from happening. Here's another thing to note. When I press Command-f5, VO starts and I hear something like comm.apple.dock.extra. Wonder if this has anything to do with this. I will try to get an old monitor of mine to see if having the hardware present helps. I believe it will. On 7/30/11, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: Running without a display gives unpredictable and unreliable results, especially with Safari. Once you start VO from within your account, it should start up automatically when you log back in. You can leave it running when you exit your account. If you shut it down before you log out and don't restart it, it won't come back automatically when you log in. HTH, Teresa On Jul 29, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Joseph Norton wrote: Hi: Just upgraded to Lion and everything works satisfactorily, except that, when I boot up, VO does not automatically come up after log in. VO works fine in the Login screen, but, won't automatically come on after login. I believe the problem may be that I am running without a display, since I'm using a Mac Mini and this has worked ok, for the most part. If there are any Mac Mini lion users out there, could you try booting up without your display plugged in and see if VO comes up? If it doesn't, you should be able to hit cmd-f5 to get it to come up. It's not enough to turn the monitor off, it needs to be disconnected to duplicate the conditions I'm working under. If this happens, can any of you suggest a work-around? I can get an old monitor and physically connect it. It doesn't work, but, should provide the hardware functionality needed to correct this problem, if that's what it is. It's not a big deal, although I'm going to write to the accessibility team at Apple to see what their thoughts are. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To
Re: Web item rotor
Hi Adie! Well I do not know what happened to your version of web rota on sl, but I've always had the options to add and remove items that appear in the rota! But as for your problem now! I'm only guessing but could it be that since you've changed the settings you have not been to any links for them to show up! If you have and they still do not show and you've not already tried this, just try a restart and see if this does the trick! hth Colin On 30 Jul 2011, at 12:38, Adie wrote: Hi I was missing the visited and non-visited links from the SL version of the rotor, So was pleased to find I could add these categories to the Lion rotor. However, VO doesn't speak what the links are to. Am I doing something wrong? There doesn't seem to be much point in being able to add these categories if it won't tell you what they are. Thanks A -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] Extremely frustrating problem on Web site
I don't usually use theitem chooser on web sites, but have tried it to test this, so far it's worked for me. On Jul 29, 2011, at 11:09 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: I have found that VO+F can work well where Item chooser goes astray. For some reason, a few of us have found that the item chooser is no longer what it once was; but, VO+f seems to be both more accurate and faster. Give that a whirl and let us know how you get on with that option. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jul 29, 2011, at 10:55 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: I've never faced this one before. I am attempting to purchase an e-gift card for one of my daughter's friends at candyfavorites.com. I tried using the item chooser and the search function to find gift certificates. The latter yields that annoying error sound. The item chooser tells me gift certificates tab 2 of 4 I attempt to choose this and nothing happens. What does this mean? What tabs? Anyone have a clue what is going on here? Thanks. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] Extremely frustrating problem on Web site
Mike, if you wouldn't mind me asking you, could I add you on skype? I tried searching for your call handle and I couldn't find youthat is, if you wouldn't mind chatting with me about a few things. Thanks Cody - Original Message - From: Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Extremely frustrating problem on Web site I don't usually use theitem chooser on web sites, but have tried it to test this, so far it's worked for me. On Jul 29, 2011, at 11:09 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: I have found that VO+F can work well where Item chooser goes astray. For some reason, a few of us have found that the item chooser is no longer what it once was; but, VO+f seems to be both more accurate and faster. Give that a whirl and let us know how you get on with that option. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jul 29, 2011, at 10:55 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: I've never faced this one before. I am attempting to purchase an e-gift card for one of my daughter's friends at candyfavorites.com. I tried using the item chooser and the search function to find gift certificates. The latter yields that annoying error sound. The item chooser tells me gift certificates tab 2 of 4 I attempt to choose this and nothing happens. What does this mean? What tabs? Anyone have a clue what is going on here? Thanks. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a most paculiar Safari behavior
One thing you might try, if you have the tool bar or bookmark bar showing, disable these, the less clutter you have on the screen the better, and this will help to keep the focus on the web page. On Jul 30, 2011, at 12:56 AM, Shen wrote: Hi, yes I am noticing this too. Although I am getting this more after I installed Lion. I don't know if this is because of Lion, or because of Safari 5.1. I have to manually interact with the html section more often than before. Before, VoiceOver was better at interacting with html content automatically. On Jul 29, 2011, at 1:13 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Okay. Here's the thing I'm finding. Sometimes, when I open Safari, the VO curser doesn't go directly to my home page. Every time I open a page in a session where that happens, I have to manually interact with each and every page. Keep in mind the following two facts. 1. I have my VO set so that with every web page that loads, the VO curser is supposed to go directly to it. 2. I was noticing the behavior described above even before I installed Lion and was using the latest Safari version just issued the same day Lion came out. Anybody else notice this? IF so, got any suggestions on whether this will be fixed in 10.7.1 or 10.7.2 or perhaps a setting I might adjust differently? Thanks. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
A question about a specific example of slowness in iTunes 10.4
Hi Folks, I think there's already been some discussion about slowness in iTunes 10.4, but I'm wondering if other folks are experiencing the following specific behavior: If I select Music in the sources list and then attempt to navigate through my songs, it takes several seconds to VO up and down through my songs or left and right through the fields in each song. However, I experience no delays when navigating through my lists of Books, Movies, TV Shows or even through the contents of my playlist folders. My music library is 30GB, movies library is 10GB, other libraries are smaller, but regardless of size or number of items, I don't recall having this issue in the previous version of iTunes running under SL. This is on a late 2010 macbook air with 4GB RAM and a speedy SSD. The whole library is located on the SSD. I've tried changing views, columns, and any other options I could think of. TIA, Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Help with audiobook binder
Hi, all. I've installed audiobook binder, but seem to be having problems adding files. They add, but they aren't in the correct order. So, obviously, I don't want them to bind that way. How can I reorganize the order the files are in? Just for clarification purposes, they're in the correct order in the folders on the mac, but, when they're added to the binder, the order changes. I'm not sure why. Any help would be appreciated. Shannon Are you a fan of women's music? If so, join me each Thursday from noon until three for the Eclectic Collection: a Celebration of Women In Music. Point your media player to: http://mojoradio.us/listen or www.mintfm.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Java
Yes. JAVA is not bundled to reduce the size of download. On Jul 30, 2011, at 1:17 AM, Christopher Peppel wrote: Hi Folks, I have heard that now you have to download Java for Lion from the Internet? Is this true? Thanks for any answer. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Extremely frustrating problem on Web site
Thanks. As mentioned, I did try Vo f the first time around, and as I have yet to take the Lion plunge, my item chooser is working just fine. My daughter tried it on her PC, and had a similar problem. Very odd, as the rest of the Web site seems to work perfectly fine. On Jul 30, 2011, at 7:05 AM, Chris Westbrook wrote: I can confirm this. Later today I'm going to look at the page more, I suspect they are using something other than a link or button to make that clickable, I suspect this is a website issue rather than a safari/webkit/lion issue. I'm going to try it on windows and see how those screen readers handle it. On Jul 29, 2011, at 11:55 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: I've never faced this one before. I am attempting to purchase an e-gift card for one of my daughter's friends at candyfavorites.com. I tried using the item chooser and the search function to find gift certificates. The latter yields that annoying error sound. The item chooser tells me gift certificates tab 2 of 4 I attempt to choose this and nothing happens. What does this mean? What tabs? Anyone have a clue what is going on here? Thanks. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] Extremely frustrating problem on Web site
Do you mean you tried it on the web site I indicated? If not, the item chooser always has worked for me on other web sites; the problem is this particular web site and this particular search. If I use the item chooser or vo plus f for other searches on the site, all works fine. On Jul 30, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: I don't usually use theitem chooser on web sites, but have tried it to test this, so far it's worked for me. On Jul 29, 2011, at 11:09 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: I have found that VO+F can work well where Item chooser goes astray. For some reason, a few of us have found that the item chooser is no longer what it once was; but, VO+f seems to be both more accurate and faster. Give that a whirl and let us know how you get on with that option. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jul 29, 2011, at 10:55 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: I've never faced this one before. I am attempting to purchase an e-gift card for one of my daughter's friends at candyfavorites.com. I tried using the item chooser and the search function to find gift certificates. The latter yields that annoying error sound. The item chooser tells me gift certificates tab 2 of 4 I attempt to choose this and nothing happens. What does this mean? What tabs? Anyone have a clue what is going on here? Thanks. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
just curious
Hi list: Something I've been curious about regarding ITunes is: Why do they keep updating it so much. Seems like Apple has a new ITunes release every few hours. ... Well, maybe not that much. Anyone know why this happens? Thanks to the Mac's update feature, I'm usually up-to-date, at least. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: A question about a specific example of slowness in iTunes 10.4
Brian, I've experienced the exact same thing running on a mid-2009 MBP with 8 GB of RAM, and SSD and running in Lion. Moving up and down through my playlists is rather speedy and other than the main music library playlist, I have no issues. I'm wondering two things: 1. In upgrading to 104, did the iTunes music database get corrupted somehow and is this what is causing the sluggish performance? 2. Is there a way to repair/rebuild the database? that's my shot in the dark. Kevin On 2011-07-30, at 11:17 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: Hi Folks, I think there's already been some discussion about slowness in iTunes 10.4, but I'm wondering if other folks are experiencing the following specific behavior: If I select Music in the sources list and then attempt to navigate through my songs, it takes several seconds to VO up and down through my songs or left and right through the fields in each song. However, I experience no delays when navigating through my lists of Books, Movies, TV Shows or even through the contents of my playlist folders. My music library is 30GB, movies library is 10GB, other libraries are smaller, but regardless of size or number of items, I don't recall having this issue in the previous version of iTunes running under SL. This is on a late 2010 macbook air with 4GB RAM and a speedy SSD. The whole library is located on the SSD. I've tried changing views, columns, and any other options I could think of. TIA, Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a most paculiar Safari behavior
Thing is, if you disable the tool bar, how then to get to the download window if needed? I suppose one could press the tool bar button and hope to still get there quick enough? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jul 30, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: One thing you might try, if you have the tool bar or bookmark bar showing, disable these, the less clutter you have on the screen the better, and this will help to keep the focus on the web page. On Jul 30, 2011, at 12:56 AM, Shen wrote: Hi, yes I am noticing this too. Although I am getting this more after I installed Lion. I don't know if this is because of Lion, or because of Safari 5.1. I have to manually interact with the html section more often than before. Before, VoiceOver was better at interacting with html content automatically. On Jul 29, 2011, at 1:13 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Okay. Here's the thing I'm finding. Sometimes, when I open Safari, the VO curser doesn't go directly to my home page. Every time I open a page in a session where that happens, I have to manually interact with each and every page. Keep in mind the following two facts. 1. I have my VO set so that with every web page that loads, the VO curser is supposed to go directly to it. 2. I was noticing the behavior described above even before I installed Lion and was using the latest Safari version just issued the same day Lion came out. Anybody else notice this? IF so, got any suggestions on whether this will be fixed in 10.7.1 or 10.7.2 or perhaps a setting I might adjust differently? Thanks. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: A question about a specific example of slowness in iTunes 10.4
If the database got corrupted, you wouldn't be able to use a previous Itunes Library, folder file; if you tried to revert to 10.3, unless both the library and the library FILE were corrupted, you'd crash.An interesting experiment would be to roll back the Itunes LIbrary to the most recent previous version, but still use version 10.4 of the actual app. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a most paculiar Safari behavior
Yes, that does present a problem, in my case, I can see the lightson my router, otherwise, you would need to use the tool bar to get to the downloads window, probably no way around it. On Jul 30, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Thing is, if you disable the tool bar, how then to get to the download window if needed? I suppose one could press the tool bar button and hope to still get there quick enough? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jul 30, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: One thing you might try, if you have the tool bar or bookmark bar showing, disable these, the less clutter you have on the screen the better, and this will help to keep the focus on the web page. On Jul 30, 2011, at 12:56 AM, Shen wrote: Hi, yes I am noticing this too. Although I am getting this more after I installed Lion. I don't know if this is because of Lion, or because of Safari 5.1. I have to manually interact with the html section more often than before. Before, VoiceOver was better at interacting with html content automatically. On Jul 29, 2011, at 1:13 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Okay. Here's the thing I'm finding. Sometimes, when I open Safari, the VO curser doesn't go directly to my home page. Every time I open a page in a session where that happens, I have to manually interact with each and every page. Keep in mind the following two facts. 1. I have my VO set so that with every web page that loads, the VO curser is supposed to go directly to it. 2. I was noticing the behavior described above even before I installed Lion and was using the latest Safari version just issued the same day Lion came out. Anybody else notice this? IF so, got any suggestions on whether this will be fixed in 10.7.1 or 10.7.2 or perhaps a setting I might adjust differently? Thanks. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: A question about a specific example of slowness in iTunes 10.4
Hi Guys, Just a note. I was experiencing the same thing, after my upgrade to iTunes 10.4 with an approximately 2,000 song data base. I've only got 2GB of ram--upgrading soon--on a 2009 MBP. So, I bit the bullet, deleted the whole darned data base rebuilt it. No problems now. So, my guess, something goes bump in the night with the music library with the 10.4 upgrade. I guess that's not very scientific, but I'm happy with the results. Good luck, CJ On Jul 30, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: Brian, I've experienced the exact same thing running on a mid-2009 MBP with 8 GB of RAM, and SSD and running in Lion. Moving up and down through my playlists is rather speedy and other than the main music library playlist, I have no issues. I'm wondering two things: 1.In upgrading to 104, did the iTunes music database get corrupted somehow and is this what is causing the sluggish performance? 2.Is there a way to repair/rebuild the database? that's my shot in the dark. Kevin On 2011-07-30, at 11:17 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: Hi Folks, I think there's already been some discussion about slowness in iTunes 10.4, but I'm wondering if other folks are experiencing the following specific behavior: If I select Music in the sources list and then attempt to navigate through my songs, it takes several seconds to VO up and down through my songs or left and right through the fields in each song. However, I experience no delays when navigating through my lists of Books, Movies, TV Shows or even through the contents of my playlist folders. My music library is 30GB, movies library is 10GB, other libraries are smaller, but regardless of size or number of items, I don't recall having this issue in the previous version of iTunes running under SL. This is on a late 2010 macbook air with 4GB RAM and a speedy SSD. The whole library is located on the SSD. I've tried changing views, columns, and any other options I could think of. TIA, Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: just curious
iTunes gets updated anytime there are interesting new features for iPhones or new media types or a security hole is found. The problem with iTunes right now is that it has to manage too much... 1. Sync music, contacts, photos, home page,and applications to every type of iPhone and iPod touch. 2. Manage song / music / application / iPod / Mac University / TV showpurchse and download. 3. Act as a player for all the above media types. There are some rumours going around that iTunes is being re-engineered as separate programs or perhaps just completely being rewritten. It really doesn't make much logical sense that you go into a music player to control application installs and refreshes to iPhones,so I could very easily see them migrating this code out of iTunes and into iSync (does iSync still exist in reality?) Once upon a time iSync was used to push bluetooth contactts to your phone. Jonathan On Jul 30, 2011, at 12:13 PM, Joseph Norton wrote: Hi list: Something I've been curious about regarding ITunes is: Why do they keep updating it so much. Seems like Apple has a new ITunes release every few hours. ... Well, maybe not that much. Anyone know why this happens? Thanks to the Mac's update feature, I'm usually up-to-date, at least. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: A question about a specific example of slowness in iTunes 10.4
I am experiencing the same issue and have the same configuration of the MacBook Air as the initial poster. Another problem I have is that I can no longer select an artist via the first letter of his/her name. The only way to browse the playlist browser is to VO-arrow up and down. Before I upgraded to Lion, I could just use the arrow keys without quicknav and also just press the first letter of an artist's name to go to artists starting with that letter. I'd appreciate a solution to this issue. Eric On 7/30/11, CJ Daniel cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys, Just a note. I was experiencing the same thing, after my upgrade to iTunes 10.4 with an approximately 2,000 song data base. I've only got 2GB of ram--upgrading soon--on a 2009 MBP. So, I bit the bullet, deleted the whole darned data base rebuilt it. No problems now. So, my guess, something goes bump in the night with the music library with the 10.4 upgrade. I guess that's not very scientific, but I'm happy with the results. Good luck, CJ On Jul 30, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: Brian, I've experienced the exact same thing running on a mid-2009 MBP with 8 GB of RAM, and SSD and running in Lion. Moving up and down through my playlists is rather speedy and other than the main music library playlist, I have no issues. I'm wondering two things: 1. In upgrading to 104, did the iTunes music database get corrupted somehow and is this what is causing the sluggish performance? 2. Is there a way to repair/rebuild the database? that's my shot in the dark. Kevin On 2011-07-30, at 11:17 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: Hi Folks, I think there's already been some discussion about slowness in iTunes 10.4, but I'm wondering if other folks are experiencing the following specific behavior: If I select Music in the sources list and then attempt to navigate through my songs, it takes several seconds to VO up and down through my songs or left and right through the fields in each song. However, I experience no delays when navigating through my lists of Books, Movies, TV Shows or even through the contents of my playlist folders. My music library is 30GB, movies library is 10GB, other libraries are smaller, but regardless of size or number of items, I don't recall having this issue in the previous version of iTunes running under SL. This is on a late 2010 macbook air with 4GB RAM and a speedy SSD. The whole library is located on the SSD. I've tried changing views, columns, and any other options I could think of. TIA, Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: A question about a specific example of slowness in iTunes 10.4
I don't think this is the case. I think the problem is voiceover specific. I think the look of iTunes might have changed slightly. I say this because this doesn't happen for those who don't use voiceover, and are just arrowing up and down there music playlist Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 30, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Kevin Shaw wrote: Brian, I've experienced the exact same thing running on a mid-2009 MBP with 8 GB of RAM, and SSD and running in Lion. Moving up and down through my playlists is rather speedy and other than the main music library playlist, I have no issues. I'm wondering two things: 1. In upgrading to 104, did the iTunes music database get corrupted somehow and is this what is causing the sluggish performance? 2. Is there a way to repair/rebuild the database? that's my shot in the dark. Kevin On 2011-07-30, at 11:17 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: Hi Folks, I think there's already been some discussion about slowness in iTunes 10.4, but I'm wondering if other folks are experiencing the following specific behavior: If I select Music in the sources list and then attempt to navigate through my songs, it takes several seconds to VO up and down through my songs or left and right through the fields in each song. However, I experience no delays when navigating through my lists of Books, Movies, TV Shows or even through the contents of my playlist folders. My music library is 30GB, movies library is 10GB, other libraries are smaller, but regardless of size or number of items, I don't recall having this issue in the previous version of iTunes running under SL. This is on a late 2010 macbook air with 4GB RAM and a speedy SSD. The whole library is located on the SSD. I've tried changing views, columns, and any other options I could think of. TIA, Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iTunes Keystroke Discovery
Ester, Okay, that worked like a charm I really appreciate the information. However, maybe you can continue to be a ministering angel fix the next problem I encountered. After I sorted the album in to the original order selected play, iTunes would only play the first song repeat it. I've selected Don't repeat on the Repeat button I'm @ a loss. Please remember that I am new to iTunes. Any help would, again, be very much appreciated, CJ On Jul 29, 2011, at 10:33 PM, Esther wrote: Hi CJ, To play an album in original track order, in the songs table of iTunes, navigate to the column for Album and use the sort command (VO+Shift+Backslash on an English input keyboard). You should be in list view (Command+Option+3). If Album is not one of the columns being displayed, you can bring up the iTunes View Options… menu with Command+J and then check the box for Album before closing the window with Command+w. (You can also do this by navigating to the menu bar with VO+m, pressing v to go to the View menu, and arrowing down to View Options… if you forget the shortcut). The sort command is a toggle action and the first operation sorts in ascending order, the second reverses the sort to descending order. You can always select the tracks and use Command+Shift+n for New Playlist from Selection to create a playlist in the listed order. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jul 29, 2011, at 07:18 PM, CJ Daniel wrote: Hi, Now if some one could just tell me how to play an album in the original track order, I'd be a happy camper...LOL Anyone? I mean absolutely @ all. CJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: A question about a specific example of slowness in iTunes 10.4
Hi, you can still do this the difference is you can't be interacting with the table and, you don't hear voiceover announce where you are in the table. I hope everyone is writing Apple about there issues. Talking about it on list is fine but, i don't think it will accomplish much. JMO. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 30, 2011, at 1:26 PM, Eric Brinkman wrote: I am experiencing the same issue and have the same configuration of the MacBook Air as the initial poster. Another problem I have is that I can no longer select an artist via the first letter of his/her name. The only way to browse the playlist browser is to VO-arrow up and down. Before I upgraded to Lion, I could just use the arrow keys without quicknav and also just press the first letter of an artist's name to go to artists starting with that letter. I'd appreciate a solution to this issue. Eric On 7/30/11, CJ Daniel cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys, Just a note. I was experiencing the same thing, after my upgrade to iTunes 10.4 with an approximately 2,000 song data base. I've only got 2GB of ram--upgrading soon--on a 2009 MBP. So, I bit the bullet, deleted the whole darned data base rebuilt it. No problems now. So, my guess, something goes bump in the night with the music library with the 10.4 upgrade. I guess that's not very scientific, but I'm happy with the results. Good luck, CJ On Jul 30, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: Brian, I've experienced the exact same thing running on a mid-2009 MBP with 8 GB of RAM, and SSD and running in Lion. Moving up and down through my playlists is rather speedy and other than the main music library playlist, I have no issues. I'm wondering two things: 1. In upgrading to 104, did the iTunes music database get corrupted somehow and is this what is causing the sluggish performance? 2. Is there a way to repair/rebuild the database? that's my shot in the dark. Kevin On 2011-07-30, at 11:17 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: Hi Folks, I think there's already been some discussion about slowness in iTunes 10.4, but I'm wondering if other folks are experiencing the following specific behavior: If I select Music in the sources list and then attempt to navigate through my songs, it takes several seconds to VO up and down through my songs or left and right through the fields in each song. However, I experience no delays when navigating through my lists of Books, Movies, TV Shows or even through the contents of my playlist folders. My music library is 30GB, movies library is 10GB, other libraries are smaller, but regardless of size or number of items, I don't recall having this issue in the previous version of iTunes running under SL. This is on a late 2010 macbook air with 4GB RAM and a speedy SSD. The whole library is located on the SSD. I've tried changing views, columns, and any other options I could think of. TIA, Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
reporting bugs to apple
hello everyone, i was just reading the digest i get every day for this list, and i saw some things that said I hope apple fixes these issues. i have a question for everyone! how do you expect apple to know about these issues? i don't think they know about them now do you? its very simple! send an email to accessibil...@apple.com making sure to be detailed in what you have a problem with. apple or there programers are not mind readers. they need to know from there customers about problems. what ever they may be. i did my part now its time for the what, 700 or so members to contact apple about these issues! that should do something! thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: A question about a specific example of slowness in iTunes 10.4
Actually, there is a way to do what you are talking about. However, it definitely doesn't work nearly as well as it did before. When in the browser, type the letter or letters of the item you are wanting to find and route the vo cursor to the keyboard focus. It works hear anyway. It seems to me that vo isn't tracking the keyboard focus at all within tables or other objects that you have to interact with. Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com On Jul 30, 2011, at 12:26 PM, Eric Brinkman wrote: I am experiencing the same issue and have the same configuration of the MacBook Air as the initial poster. Another problem I have is that I can no longer select an artist via the first letter of his/her name. The only way to browse the playlist browser is to VO-arrow up and down. Before I upgraded to Lion, I could just use the arrow keys without quicknav and also just press the first letter of an artist's name to go to artists starting with that letter. I'd appreciate a solution to this issue. Eric On 7/30/11, CJ Daniel cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys, Just a note. I was experiencing the same thing, after my upgrade to iTunes 10.4 with an approximately 2,000 song data base. I've only got 2GB of ram--upgrading soon--on a 2009 MBP. So, I bit the bullet, deleted the whole darned data base rebuilt it. No problems now. So, my guess, something goes bump in the night with the music library with the 10.4 upgrade. I guess that's not very scientific, but I'm happy with the results. Good luck, CJ On Jul 30, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: Brian, I've experienced the exact same thing running on a mid-2009 MBP with 8 GB of RAM, and SSD and running in Lion. Moving up and down through my playlists is rather speedy and other than the main music library playlist, I have no issues. I'm wondering two things: 1. In upgrading to 104, did the iTunes music database get corrupted somehow and is this what is causing the sluggish performance? 2. Is there a way to repair/rebuild the database? that's my shot in the dark. Kevin On 2011-07-30, at 11:17 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: Hi Folks, I think there's already been some discussion about slowness in iTunes 10.4, but I'm wondering if other folks are experiencing the following specific behavior: If I select Music in the sources list and then attempt to navigate through my songs, it takes several seconds to VO up and down through my songs or left and right through the fields in each song. However, I experience no delays when navigating through my lists of Books, Movies, TV Shows or even through the contents of my playlist folders. My music library is 30GB, movies library is 10GB, other libraries are smaller, but regardless of size or number of items, I don't recall having this issue in the previous version of iTunes running under SL. This is on a late 2010 macbook air with 4GB RAM and a speedy SSD. The whole library is located on the SSD. I've tried changing views, columns, and any other options I could think of. TIA, Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iTunes Keystroke Discovery
Those buttons are a bit misleading. When it says don't repeat, it means that *IF* you push that button *NOW*, it won't repeat. The button selects says what it WILL DO if you press it, not its current toggled state. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: A question about a specific example of slowness in iTunes 10.4
Also, the other day, I wanted to select a group of songs by pressing shift-down arrow and move them to a playlist. I couldn't tell whether they were being highlighted or not because VO gave me no feedback. Thanks for the information. Eric On 7/30/11, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, there is a way to do what you are talking about. However, it definitely doesn't work nearly as well as it did before. When in the browser, type the letter or letters of the item you are wanting to find and route the vo cursor to the keyboard focus. It works hear anyway. It seems to me that vo isn't tracking the keyboard focus at all within tables or other objects that you have to interact with. Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com On Jul 30, 2011, at 12:26 PM, Eric Brinkman wrote: I am experiencing the same issue and have the same configuration of the MacBook Air as the initial poster. Another problem I have is that I can no longer select an artist via the first letter of his/her name. The only way to browse the playlist browser is to VO-arrow up and down. Before I upgraded to Lion, I could just use the arrow keys without quicknav and also just press the first letter of an artist's name to go to artists starting with that letter. I'd appreciate a solution to this issue. Eric On 7/30/11, CJ Daniel cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys, Just a note. I was experiencing the same thing, after my upgrade to iTunes 10.4 with an approximately 2,000 song data base. I've only got 2GB of ram--upgrading soon--on a 2009 MBP. So, I bit the bullet, deleted the whole darned data base rebuilt it. No problems now. So, my guess, something goes bump in the night with the music library with the 10.4 upgrade. I guess that's not very scientific, but I'm happy with the results. Good luck, CJ On Jul 30, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: Brian, I've experienced the exact same thing running on a mid-2009 MBP with 8 GB of RAM, and SSD and running in Lion. Moving up and down through my playlists is rather speedy and other than the main music library playlist, I have no issues. I'm wondering two things: 1. In upgrading to 104, did the iTunes music database get corrupted somehow and is this what is causing the sluggish performance? 2. Is there a way to repair/rebuild the database? that's my shot in the dark. Kevin On 2011-07-30, at 11:17 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: Hi Folks, I think there's already been some discussion about slowness in iTunes 10.4, but I'm wondering if other folks are experiencing the following specific behavior: If I select Music in the sources list and then attempt to navigate through my songs, it takes several seconds to VO up and down through my songs or left and right through the fields in each song. However, I experience no delays when navigating through my lists of Books, Movies, TV Shows or even through the contents of my playlist folders. My music library is 30GB, movies library is 10GB, other libraries are smaller, but regardless of size or number of items, I don't recall having this issue in the previous version of iTunes running under SL. This is on a late 2010 macbook air with 4GB RAM and a speedy SSD. The whole library is located on the SSD. I've tried changing views, columns, and any other options I could think of. TIA, Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to
Re: a most paculiar Safari behavior
The downloads button is not in the toolbar, actually. I can access it fine when I hide the toolbar. Just use command-option-f and then VO-right till you come to it. Teresa On Jul 30, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: Yes, that does present a problem, in my case, I can see the lightson my router, otherwise, you would need to use the tool bar to get to the downloads window, probably no way around it. On Jul 30, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Thing is, if you disable the tool bar, how then to get to the download window if needed? I suppose one could press the tool bar button and hope to still get there quick enough? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jul 30, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: One thing you might try, if you have the tool bar or bookmark bar showing, disable these, the less clutter you have on the screen the better, and this will help to keep the focus on the web page. On Jul 30, 2011, at 12:56 AM, Shen wrote: Hi, yes I am noticing this too. Although I am getting this more after I installed Lion. I don't know if this is because of Lion, or because of Safari 5.1. I have to manually interact with the html section more often than before. Before, VoiceOver was better at interacting with html content automatically. On Jul 29, 2011, at 1:13 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Okay. Here's the thing I'm finding. Sometimes, when I open Safari, the VO curser doesn't go directly to my home page. Every time I open a page in a session where that happens, I have to manually interact with each and every page. Keep in mind the following two facts. 1. I have my VO set so that with every web page that loads, the VO curser is supposed to go directly to it. 2. I was noticing the behavior described above even before I installed Lion and was using the latest Safari version just issued the same day Lion came out. Anybody else notice this? IF so, got any suggestions on whether this will be fixed in 10.7.1 or 10.7.2 or perhaps a setting I might adjust differently? Thanks. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Examples of the Use of VO-shift-J in Lion?
Hi, all, I'm not understanding the function of VO-shift-j, link to pop-up item in Lion. Could someone clarify this? Is it for web pages? Thanks, Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Applemail vs. web-based GMail
So I've been using GMail in my web browser for the last six years, but the large amount of discussion of apple mail as well as its ability to read RSS feeds has made me consider using it with my GMail account. Do you think it would give me a significant advantage over just using GMail in safari? Thanks in advance, Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a most paculiar Safari behavior
Hi, It actually is in the toolbar, right along with the search field that pressing command option F brings you to. I guess it just happens that this command, brings you to the toolbar regardless of if its shown or not. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 30, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: The downloads button is not in the toolbar, actually. I can access it fine when I hide the toolbar. Just use command-option-f and then VO-right till you come to it. Teresa On Jul 30, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: Yes, that does present a problem, in my case, I can see the lightson my router, otherwise, you would need to use the tool bar to get to the downloads window, probably no way around it. On Jul 30, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Thing is, if you disable the tool bar, how then to get to the download window if needed? I suppose one could press the tool bar button and hope to still get there quick enough? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jul 30, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: One thing you might try, if you have the tool bar or bookmark bar showing, disable these, the less clutter you have on the screen the better, and this will help to keep the focus on the web page. On Jul 30, 2011, at 12:56 AM, Shen wrote: Hi, yes I am noticing this too. Although I am getting this more after I installed Lion. I don't know if this is because of Lion, or because of Safari 5.1. I have to manually interact with the html section more often than before. Before, VoiceOver was better at interacting with html content automatically. On Jul 29, 2011, at 1:13 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Okay. Here's the thing I'm finding. Sometimes, when I open Safari, the VO curser doesn't go directly to my home page. Every time I open a page in a session where that happens, I have to manually interact with each and every page. Keep in mind the following two facts. 1. I have my VO set so that with every web page that loads, the VO curser is supposed to go directly to it. 2. I was noticing the behavior described above even before I installed Lion and was using the latest Safari version just issued the same day Lion came out. Anybody else notice this? IF so, got any suggestions on whether this will be fixed in 10.7.1 or 10.7.2 or perhaps a setting I might adjust differently? Thanks. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the
Re: Applemail vs. web-based GMail
Oh definitely. I find using gmail in a browser something a kin to torture. lol Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 30, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Eric Brinkman wrote: So I've been using GMail in my web browser for the last six years, but the large amount of discussion of apple mail as well as its ability to read RSS feeds has made me consider using it with my GMail account. Do you think it would give me a significant advantage over just using GMail in safari? Thanks in advance, Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Applemail vs. web-based GMail
Hi, Eric, I generally find mail clients much more navigable, especially when it comes to large amounts of messages. Apple Mail is set up to display conversations if you wish it to, and you can even use the delete key just once to wipe out an entire conversation. IMO, web interfaces are just plain clunky. I use them, but only in emergencies. RSS feeds are a kind of median solution between the other two methods. You still have to go to the website to reply, etc. I suppose it's all a matter of personal preference. HTH, Teresa On Jul 30, 2011, at 11:10 AM, Eric Brinkman wrote: So I've been using GMail in my web browser for the last six years, but the large amount of discussion of apple mail as well as its ability to read RSS feeds has made me consider using it with my GMail account. Do you think it would give me a significant advantage over just using GMail in safari? Thanks in advance, Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a most paculiar Safari behavior
Ah, ok. I sit corrected, then. In any case, it does work to do this, so all's well that ends well. :) Teresa On Jul 30, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, It actually is in the toolbar, right along with the search field that pressing command option F brings you to. I guess it just happens that this command, brings you to the toolbar regardless of if its shown or not. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 30, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: The downloads button is not in the toolbar, actually. I can access it fine when I hide the toolbar. Just use command-option-f and then VO-right till you come to it. Teresa On Jul 30, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: Yes, that does present a problem, in my case, I can see the lightson my router, otherwise, you would need to use the tool bar to get to the downloads window, probably no way around it. On Jul 30, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Thing is, if you disable the tool bar, how then to get to the download window if needed? I suppose one could press the tool bar button and hope to still get there quick enough? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jul 30, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: One thing you might try, if you have the tool bar or bookmark bar showing, disable these, the less clutter you have on the screen the better, and this will help to keep the focus on the web page. On Jul 30, 2011, at 12:56 AM, Shen wrote: Hi, yes I am noticing this too. Although I am getting this more after I installed Lion. I don't know if this is because of Lion, or because of Safari 5.1. I have to manually interact with the html section more often than before. Before, VoiceOver was better at interacting with html content automatically. On Jul 29, 2011, at 1:13 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Okay. Here's the thing I'm finding. Sometimes, when I open Safari, the VO curser doesn't go directly to my home page. Every time I open a page in a session where that happens, I have to manually interact with each and every page. Keep in mind the following two facts. 1. I have my VO set so that with every web page that loads, the VO curser is supposed to go directly to it. 2. I was noticing the behavior described above even before I installed Lion and was using the latest Safari version just issued the same day Lion came out. Anybody else notice this? IF so, got any suggestions on whether this will be fixed in 10.7.1 or 10.7.2 or perhaps a setting I might adjust differently? Thanks. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
all files
on the cartridge I use with my nls player when I plug it into my pc it has 3 folders one of them is a . trashes and it is quite large. the file doesn't show up when I plug in to my macbook pro? is there a way to show all files ore something like that? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Applemail vs. web-based GMail
Thanks. Do you prefer RSS feeds or twitter feeds? I know they don't really serve the same purpose, but for following news I feel sorta torn. Twitter has interaction, but I find keeping up with everyone's feeds to just take far too much time and there are a lot of tweets that I just don't care about. Eric On 7/30/11, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Eric, I generally find mail clients much more navigable, especially when it comes to large amounts of messages. Apple Mail is set up to display conversations if you wish it to, and you can even use the delete key just once to wipe out an entire conversation. IMO, web interfaces are just plain clunky. I use them, but only in emergencies. RSS feeds are a kind of median solution between the other two methods. You still have to go to the website to reply, etc. I suppose it's all a matter of personal preference. HTH, Teresa On Jul 30, 2011, at 11:10 AM, Eric Brinkman wrote: So I've been using GMail in my web browser for the last six years, but the large amount of discussion of apple mail as well as its ability to read RSS feeds has made me consider using it with my GMail account. Do you think it would give me a significant advantage over just using GMail in safari? Thanks in advance, Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Spotify not accessible on Snow Leopard
How are you using Spotify on the Mac via the mouse pointer? I can do this on windows via the Jaws curser, but haven't been able to do it on the Mac. I am going to instal Spotify on my virtual machine just so that I can use it on my computer since I do love it on the iPhone. The fact that so many applications are accessible on the iPhone, but not on the mac is perplexing to me. For example, on the iPhone, I can use the full OKCupid site, but I cannot use it on the Mac. I've ended up using my virtual machine for lots of sites for this reason. Eric On 7/29/11, David Hole balubathebr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. This is somehow off-topic, but I try it anyway... Here's something JAWS-stuff I played around with, and it works ok for me and other here in Norway: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1394111/spotify-0.4.zip Put the files inside to your JAWS-settings-directory, and see if it helps. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:13, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: I downloaded spotify for the Mac and foudn it completely inaccessible. It had been a little accessible on windows . But then I tried it on windows. Spotify updated itself and became completely inaccessible on windows. I use Napster using the web interface on the Mac which is more or less accessible, apart from the volume slider which voice-over doesn't see. On 29/07/2011, David Hole balubathebr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again. When I select an artist, and press play, it plays all the songs thats listed, so I'm not sure what you're doing wrong. One of the purposes of Spotify is playlists. Make a playlist of the songs you want, and then ith shall play. Hope that helps. -David On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 07:04, Kevin Gibbs kevj...@gmail.com wrote: I had the chance to check that out by choosing an artist that I know I don't have any of in my personal collection. And yes, you're right. Next question is, how do I set it up so that all the tunes that I find under an artist get played in a row instead of one at a time? I heard one song followed by an ad. I don't care about the commercials, but I would like to hear several songs in a row commercials are not. I don't want to have to press the play button for each song. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Applemail vs. web-based GMail
Hi, Eric, As for myself, I honestly haven't used Twitter much, so I can't speak to its advantages. Apple Mail does have an RSS function that is set up with a folder in the mailbox list and RSS feeds associated with it. I truly like this setup a whole lot. I get American Public Broadcasting Service shows this way. HTH, Teresa On Jul 30, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Eric Brinkman wrote: Thanks. Do you prefer RSS feeds or twitter feeds? I know they don't really serve the same purpose, but for following news I feel sorta torn. Twitter has interaction, but I find keeping up with everyone's feeds to just take far too much time and there are a lot of tweets that I just don't care about. Eric On 7/30/11, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Eric, I generally find mail clients much more navigable, especially when it comes to large amounts of messages. Apple Mail is set up to display conversations if you wish it to, and you can even use the delete key just once to wipe out an entire conversation. IMO, web interfaces are just plain clunky. I use them, but only in emergencies. RSS feeds are a kind of median solution between the other two methods. You still have to go to the website to reply, etc. I suppose it's all a matter of personal preference. HTH, Teresa On Jul 30, 2011, at 11:10 AM, Eric Brinkman wrote: So I've been using GMail in my web browser for the last six years, but the large amount of discussion of apple mail as well as its ability to read RSS feeds has made me consider using it with my GMail account. Do you think it would give me a significant advantage over just using GMail in safari? Thanks in advance, Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: A question about a specific example of slowness in iTunes 10.4
yes, I am getting the same behavior. The even more weird thing is if I don't use quicknav, it doesn't read anything at all. This is a little annoying since, when you use quicknav, some of the other hotkeys like left and right arrow won't move between songs. Even when I do use quicknav, it's vary sluggish and I get a lot of busy messages. is there an easy way to go back to 10.3? I looked on the apple site,but, with 10.4, there doesn't seem to be a way of removing it. I did a complete installation from scratch to try and resolve some other issues which it did. Unfortunately, the iTunes problem seems to be vary bad indeed. It is an iTunes issue though, because, if I boot up with the older installation of Lion that has 10.3, I don't experience this behavior. Unfortunately, it's on an external drive which, of course, makes everything slower. On Jul 30, 2011, at 10:17 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: Hi Folks, I think there's already been some discussion about slowness in iTunes 10.4, but I'm wondering if other folks are experiencing the following specific behavior: If I select Music in the sources list and then attempt to navigate through my songs, it takes several seconds to VO up and down through my songs or left and right through the fields in each song. However, I experience no delays when navigating through my lists of Books, Movies, TV Shows or even through the contents of my playlist folders. My music library is 30GB, movies library is 10GB, other libraries are smaller, but regardless of size or number of items, I don't recall having this issue in the previous version of iTunes running under SL. This is on a late 2010 macbook air with 4GB RAM and a speedy SSD. The whole library is located on the SSD. I've tried changing views, columns, and any other options I could think of. TIA, Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
xcode
Hello list: I know this question has been asked before so please indulge me. I was wanting some feedback on the accessibility of xcode. In SL or lion. What works ... what could stand some improvements ... what absolutely does not work if anything and what are some work arounds to those things which are questionable. Thank you so much for your input. Take good care and I wish you enough. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Spotify not accessible on Snow Leopard
Hi. Is it possible at all to use just the mouse-pointer on the Mac, like JAWS can on Windows? What if anyone can set up a petition to get Spotify on the Mac accessible? I know some of you are more into this petition-stuff, therefore I'm asking others to do that :) -David On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 20:42, Eric Brinkman eric.brinkm...@gmail.com wrote: How are you using Spotify on the Mac via the mouse pointer? I can do this on windows via the Jaws curser, but haven't been able to do it on the Mac. I am going to instal Spotify on my virtual machine just so that I can use it on my computer since I do love it on the iPhone. The fact that so many applications are accessible on the iPhone, but not on the mac is perplexing to me. For example, on the iPhone, I can use the full OKCupid site, but I cannot use it on the Mac. I've ended up using my virtual machine for lots of sites for this reason. Eric On 7/29/11, David Hole balubathebr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. This is somehow off-topic, but I try it anyway... Here's something JAWS-stuff I played around with, and it works ok for me and other here in Norway: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1394111/spotify-0.4.zip Put the files inside to your JAWS-settings-directory, and see if it helps. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:13, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: I downloaded spotify for the Mac and foudn it completely inaccessible. It had been a little accessible on windows . But then I tried it on windows. Spotify updated itself and became completely inaccessible on windows. I use Napster using the web interface on the Mac which is more or less accessible, apart from the volume slider which voice-over doesn't see. On 29/07/2011, David Hole balubathebr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again. When I select an artist, and press play, it plays all the songs thats listed, so I'm not sure what you're doing wrong. One of the purposes of Spotify is playlists. Make a playlist of the songs you want, and then ith shall play. Hope that helps. -David On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 07:04, Kevin Gibbs kevj...@gmail.com wrote: I had the chance to check that out by choosing an artist that I know I don't have any of in my personal collection. And yes, you're right. Next question is, how do I set it up so that all the tunes that I find under an artist get played in a row instead of one at a time? I heard one song followed by an ad. I don't care about the commercials, but I would like to hear several songs in a row commercials are not. I don't want to have to press the play button for each song. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iTunes Keystroke Discovery
Mark, Thanks! That worked perfectly. Very misleading however. Seriously, I've been using the Mac for about 10-months now no complaints. Not one, hey, windows was better. And, that's after more than 20-years in the DOS Windows world. But, I gotta say, for such a huge part of the Apple offering, iTunes is one of the least intuitive pieces of software I've ever worked with. And, remember I was a programmer for years not simply a email/internet user. But, once you get it, it's okay. Anyway, many thanks to you Ester, CJ On Jul 30, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: Those buttons are a bit misleading. When it says don't repeat, it means that *IF* you push that button *NOW*, it won't repeat. The button selects says what it WILL DO if you press it, not its current toggled state. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
managing a forum with mac
Hello; I've been looking into ways of stimulating traffic on my site and am considering adding a forum. Could anyone on the list give me some advice as to a program to maintain it. It would be best if it were fairly simple to install and incorporate into my existing site. Also, I'd appreciate any general advice on the subject of forums. Thanks, Max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
need a better photo gallery for my website
Hello; for a while now I've been using the spgm photo gallery from soundforge. It was easy to install and its easy to maintain. However, I can't find a way to include a thumbnail in the title of items. this means people have to like the title or description well enough to click on the page of photos. However, I have yet to find a replacement that would be easy to use on my mac. I'm running leopard on about a 3 year old white mac book. I don't have windows on this computer at all and don't want to. any help would be greatly appreciated. thank you, Max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
speech loss
hi list i lost speach for some reason on my iMack, how to get it back please? thank you in advance best -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Applemail vs. web-based GMail
Hi: I haven't used the Web interface much, except to search for messages, for the most part. However, I just set up filters in GMail and assigned labels to the messages that are filtered out. Apple mail does a good job of treating these labels like mailboxes, so, when I open Apple mail, I can, for example, get my messages from this list in what looks like a separate mailbox called Mac Visionaries under the Gmail account. This way, my Inbox is far less cluttered. This has worked for me, as I some times experiment and re-install the OS, to familiarize myself with various configurations, and, one of the headaches was redoing my filters in Mail every time. So far, this is working for me, and, I can use Mail on, say, 2 different partitions, one containing Snow Leopard, and the other containing Lion, without worrying about re-inventing the wheel. It was a slight pain doing the filters and labels, but, it's over and set up in Google's servers, and, it works like a champ. You should give it a try and see if it works for you. Only you can be the judge. Hth. On Jul 30, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Eric Brinkman wrote: So I've been using GMail in my web browser for the last six years, but the large amount of discussion of apple mail as well as its ability to read RSS feeds has made me consider using it with my GMail account. Do you think it would give me a significant advantage over just using GMail in safari? Thanks in advance, Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Looking for an accessible DVD ripper
Thanks, guys. It is the protected ones I an interested in. I can't tell for sure but handbrake looks accessible from what little I've seen. Haven't tried a DVD yet. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com wrote: Hi Brett! Quite a while ago someone talked about a software called mac the ripper! It might do what you want [I don't know] And unless someone else give's you a link I'm afraid it's off to google for you! hth Colin On 29 Jul 2011, at 18:59, Brett C. wrote: DVD Remaster is accessible and works well, but it won't rip protected DVDs, which happens to be most movies you purchase and want to put into iTunes. :( Brett C. On Jul 29, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Doug Lawlor wrote: Hi Paul, Check out dvd remaster. This program should do what you want and is very accessible. I'm not sure how much it is because when I bought the program it was on sale for 90% off the list price. Doug On 2011-07-29, at 1:42 PM, Paul Henrichsen wrote: Hi, guys. I am looking for an accessible DVD cloning program like Handbrake. I want to convert DVD's to m4v files I can copy to my iPhone. If handbrake is accessible, that's great; but is there a better one? I'd also like a program which will clone the DVD so I can have a backup and put the original away for safe keeping. I have clone DVD and Clone DVD mobile along with Any DVD HD from slysoft for windows, but they are totally inaccessible under windows. Is there something similar to the slysoft programs that is accessible on the mac? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Looking for an accessible DVD ripper
What size files does handbreak put these files in? Are you married and a Christian? Do you want to improve or save your marriage? Then come join our family of Married Christian couples at http://groups.google.com/group/committed-married-christians It's for Husband's and Wives, packed with articles, resources, and discussions to help you with your lifelong unity with 1 another. I guarantee you will not regret it, and your marriage will thank you! directly subscribe here: committed-married-christians+subscr...@googlegroups.com Hope to see you there! On Jul 30, 2011, at 6:26 PM, Paul Henrichsen wrote: Thanks, guys. It is the protected ones I an interested in. I can't tell for sure but handbrake looks accessible from what little I've seen. Haven't tried a DVD yet. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com wrote: Hi Brett! Quite a while ago someone talked about a software called mac the ripper! It might do what you want [I don't know] And unless someone else give's you a link I'm afraid it's off to google for you! hth Colin On 29 Jul 2011, at 18:59, Brett C. wrote: DVD Remaster is accessible and works well, but it won't rip protected DVDs, which happens to be most movies you purchase and want to put into iTunes. :( Brett C. On Jul 29, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Doug Lawlor wrote: Hi Paul, Check out dvd remaster. This program should do what you want and is very accessible. I'm not sure how much it is because when I bought the program it was on sale for 90% off the list price. Doug On 2011-07-29, at 1:42 PM, Paul Henrichsen wrote: Hi, guys. I am looking for an accessible DVD cloning program like Handbrake. I want to convert DVD's to m4v files I can copy to my iPhone. If handbrake is accessible, that's great; but is there a better one? I'd also like a program which will clone the DVD so I can have a backup and put the original away for safe keeping. I have clone DVD and Clone DVD mobile along with Any DVD HD from slysoft for windows, but they are totally inaccessible under windows. Is there something similar to the slysoft programs that is accessible on the mac? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Lion Mail
Hi all, I am interested to know how everyone is now using Lion Mail? At first, I was using the classic view, but now I have switched to the new standard 3 column layout. I have my messages grouped by conversation (collapsed) and I used to hit enter to open all of the conversations (previously known as threads) in various windows. The oldest message would appear at the front, but in Lion the newest window opens in the front. So I have stopped using this method. I then listened to Mark Taylor's podcast on how he uses Mail. He simply just uses the tab key to jump between each of the 3 columns. I tried this method and found it ok, but I felt it did not always auto read the message. However, it is not a bad approach if you only want to use one key on the keyboard. Whilst Mark is in the message contents view, he then uses the arrow keys to move back and forth (left and right) between the messages within the thread). interesting approach, but I think I have found a better way. I looked to see if Apple had uploaded the VO online help file yet, and indeed they have. Apple suggest using VO+J to jumps between the messages list and the content of the message. I tried this and it works great. So now I just scroll down my messages list, if I see a thread or conversation I like the look of, then I just expand it by pressing the right arrow and then move to the first message in the thread/conversation and then press VO+J, VO will then start reading the message immediately and skips reading the mail header (who the message is from) and to jump back to the messages list, just either hit backspace to delete the message or press VO+J again which will take you back to the messages list to where you were in the list. I find this approach works really well, and I might implement the favourites function in lion mail to quickly jump between mail boxes and folders by holding down the command key and a number. For more information about the new favourites feature in mail,, then check out Ricardo Walker's excellent podcast. I would be interested to know how others are now using mail, and what about using it with the track pad? I have not done it that way yet as I have mainly been using Lion on my iMac with a full keyboard. However, I still really miss being able to jump to the top or bottom of my messages list (VO+command and either up or down arrow), this no longer works. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Lion Mail
I'm quite used to the new layout now, and feel comfortable with it, especially with the shortcut keys and favorites bar. I don't expand the conversation first; I just use the tab key to go into it and navigate through it with the arrow keys. VO-shift-home and end still work to take me to the top and bottom of the message list. I have a way that I can put my finger-pad on VO and shift keys so that it overlaps all of them at once, and it's like holding down one key with each hand. Teresa On Jul 30, 2011, at 5:22 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Hi all, I am interested to know how everyone is now using Lion Mail? At first, I was using the classic view, but now I have switched to the new standard 3 column layout. I have my messages grouped by conversation (collapsed) and I used to hit enter to open all of the conversations (previously known as threads) in various windows. The oldest message would appear at the front, but in Lion the newest window opens in the front. So I have stopped using this method. I then listened to Mark Taylor's podcast on how he uses Mail. He simply just uses the tab key to jump between each of the 3 columns. I tried this method and found it ok, but I felt it did not always auto read the message. However, it is not a bad approach if you only want to use one key on the keyboard. Whilst Mark is in the message contents view, he then uses the arrow keys to move back and forth (left and right) between the messages within the thread). interesting approach, but I think I have found a better way. I looked to see if Apple had uploaded the VO online help file yet, and indeed they have. Apple suggest using VO+J to jumps between the messages list and the content of the message. I tried this and it works great. So now I just scroll down my messages list, if I see a thread or conversation I like the look of, then I just expand it by pressing the right arrow and then move to the first message in the thread/conversation and then press VO+J, VO will then start reading the message immediately and skips reading the mail header (who the message is from) and to jump back to the messages list, just either hit backspace to delete the message or press VO+J again which will take you back to the messages list to where you were in the list. I find this approach works really well, and I might implement the favourites function in lion mail to quickly jump between mail boxes and folders by holding down the command key and a number. For more information about the new favourites feature in mail,, then check out Ricardo Walker's excellent podcast. I would be interested to know how others are now using mail, and what about using it with the track pad? I have not done it that way yet as I have mainly been using Lion on my iMac with a full keyboard. However, I still really miss being able to jump to the top or bottom of my messages list (VO+command and either up or down arrow), this no longer works. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Lion Mail
Chris, Its good to see the ban has been lifted and you're no long providing useless babble to the list (JUst kidding). All good stuff man and I'll switch and give it a try. Kev On Jul 30, 2011, at 8:22 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Hi all, I am interested to know how everyone is now using Lion Mail? At first, I was using the classic view, but now I have switched to the new standard 3 column layout. I have my messages grouped by conversation (collapsed) and I used to hit enter to open all of the conversations (previously known as threads) in various windows. The oldest message would appear at the front, but in Lion the newest window opens in the front. So I have stopped using this method. I then listened to Mark Taylor's podcast on how he uses Mail. He simply just uses the tab key to jump between each of the 3 columns. I tried this method and found it ok, but I felt it did not always auto read the message. However, it is not a bad approach if you only want to use one key on the keyboard. Whilst Mark is in the message contents view, he then uses the arrow keys to move back and forth (left and right) between the messages within the thread). interesting approach, but I think I have found a better way. I looked to see if Apple had uploaded the VO online help file yet, and indeed they have. Apple suggest using VO+J to jumps between the messages list and the content of the message. I tried this and it works great. So now I just scroll down my messages list, if I see a thread or conversation I like the look of, then I just expand it by pressing the right arrow and then move to the first message in the thread/conversation and then press VO+J, VO will then start reading the message immediately and skips reading the mail header (who the message is from) and to jump back to the messages list, just either hit backspace to delete the message or press VO+J again which will take you back to the messages list to where you were in the list. I find this approach works really well, and I might implement the favourites function in lion mail to quickly jump between mail boxes and folders by holding down the command key and a number. For more information about the new favourites feature in mail,, then check out Ricardo Walker's excellent podcast. I would be interested to know how others are now using mail, and what about using it with the track pad? I have not done it that way yet as I have mainly been using Lion on my iMac with a full keyboard. However, I still really miss being able to jump to the top or bottom of my messages list (VO+command and either up or down arrow), this no longer works. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Lion Mail
Actually my ban was done in error and the moderator at the time apologised, however for some reason my group settings had been set to no mail (I know I never set that) so I have missed all the lovely posts about Lion. So today I thought I best log into google to see what was going on. On 31 Jul 2011, at 01:44, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Chris, Its good to see the ban has been lifted and you're no long providing useless babble to the list (JUst kidding). All good stuff man and I'll switch and give it a try. Kev On Jul 30, 2011, at 8:22 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Hi all, I am interested to know how everyone is now using Lion Mail? At first, I was using the classic view, but now I have switched to the new standard 3 column layout. I have my messages grouped by conversation (collapsed) and I used to hit enter to open all of the conversations (previously known as threads) in various windows. The oldest message would appear at the front, but in Lion the newest window opens in the front. So I have stopped using this method. I then listened to Mark Taylor's podcast on how he uses Mail. He simply just uses the tab key to jump between each of the 3 columns. I tried this method and found it ok, but I felt it did not always auto read the message. However, it is not a bad approach if you only want to use one key on the keyboard. Whilst Mark is in the message contents view, he then uses the arrow keys to move back and forth (left and right) between the messages within the thread). interesting approach, but I think I have found a better way. I looked to see if Apple had uploaded the VO online help file yet, and indeed they have. Apple suggest using VO+J to jumps between the messages list and the content of the message. I tried this and it works great. So now I just scroll down my messages list, if I see a thread or conversation I like the look of, then I just expand it by pressing the right arrow and then move to the first message in the thread/conversation and then press VO+J, VO will then start reading the message immediately and skips reading the mail header (who the message is from) and to jump back to the messages list, just either hit backspace to delete the message or press VO+J again which will take you back to the messages list to where you were in the list. I find this approach works really well, and I might implement the favourites function in lion mail to quickly jump between mail boxes and folders by holding down the command key and a number. For more information about the new favourites feature in mail,, then check out Ricardo Walker's excellent podcast. I would be interested to know how others are now using mail, and what about using it with the track pad? I have not done it that way yet as I have mainly been using Lion on my iMac with a full keyboard. However, I still really miss being able to jump to the top or bottom of my messages list (VO+command and either up or down arrow), this no longer works. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Lion Mail
Hey I had never used VO+Shift and the end or home keys, I have just tried this though and it works great! Really pleased I checked my google settings now, as I really missed being able to quickly jump to the top or bottom of the messages list. Chris On 31 Jul 2011, at 01:43, Teresa Cochran wrote: I'm quite used to the new layout now, and feel comfortable with it, especially with the shortcut keys and favorites bar. I don't expand the conversation first; I just use the tab key to go into it and navigate through it with the arrow keys. VO-shift-home and end still work to take me to the top and bottom of the message list. I have a way that I can put my finger-pad on VO and shift keys so that it overlaps all of them at once, and it's like holding down one key with each hand. Teresa On Jul 30, 2011, at 5:22 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Hi all, I am interested to know how everyone is now using Lion Mail? At first, I was using the classic view, but now I have switched to the new standard 3 column layout. I have my messages grouped by conversation (collapsed) and I used to hit enter to open all of the conversations (previously known as threads) in various windows. The oldest message would appear at the front, but in Lion the newest window opens in the front. So I have stopped using this method. I then listened to Mark Taylor's podcast on how he uses Mail. He simply just uses the tab key to jump between each of the 3 columns. I tried this method and found it ok, but I felt it did not always auto read the message. However, it is not a bad approach if you only want to use one key on the keyboard. Whilst Mark is in the message contents view, he then uses the arrow keys to move back and forth (left and right) between the messages within the thread). interesting approach, but I think I have found a better way. I looked to see if Apple had uploaded the VO online help file yet, and indeed they have. Apple suggest using VO+J to jumps between the messages list and the content of the message. I tried this and it works great. So now I just scroll down my messages list, if I see a thread or conversation I like the look of, then I just expand it by pressing the right arrow and then move to the first message in the thread/conversation and then press VO+J, VO will then start reading the message immediately and skips reading the mail header (who the message is from) and to jump back to the messages list, just either hit backspace to delete the message or press VO+J again which will take you back to the messages list to where you were in the list. I find this approach works really well, and I might implement the favourites function in lion mail to quickly jump between mail boxes and folders by holding down the command key and a number. For more information about the new favourites feature in mail,, then check out Ricardo Walker's excellent podcast. I would be interested to know how others are now using mail, and what about using it with the track pad? I have not done it that way yet as I have mainly been using Lion on my iMac with a full keyboard. However, I still really miss being able to jump to the top or bottom of my messages list (VO+command and either up or down arrow), this no longer works. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Good news for all writers
Hello Jürgen and thank you for both posting this notice and for signing your name to the end of your message. I much prefer to respond to someone by name. Scrivener sounds like a marvelous app that I will definitely explore. I do enjoy browsing the Mac App Store. To create eBooks, I use a program called Storyist. I believe the cost is about $30 and it is not yet available on the Mac App Store but the website is: www.storyist.com The programmer has added complete VoiceOver accessibility for us. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jürgen Fleger Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 12:51 PM To: Mac Visionaries Visionaries Subject: Good news for all writers Hi All, here's a good news for all of you who likes to write textes, novels and so: One of the most popular programs for writer is Scrivener. It provides you with different styles to write manuscripts or even complete novels. The latest version of Scrivener took a big step to get more accessible. I can really recommend it to write your poetries or what ever. More info in the Mac App Store or here: http://www.literatureandlatte.com/ All the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Lion Mail
Hello Chris, After some initial hesitation, I have adopted the new mail layout and the VO+J keystroke to move back and forth between the message list and message body. While I used to use the Tab key to move between all sections of mail under SL, it seems to me that the tab key has lost some of it's functionality under Lion Mail, even in the classic mail layout. I like the fact that VO+J automatically interacts with the chosen item and allows me to use either standard VO keys or just arrow keys to navigate within the column or the message body. Also, the fact that I'm already interacting means I can use the VO+Shift+Home/End as Teresa mentioned, thus making a workable substitute for the missing Option+Up/Down keystroke. While I have adopted the Favorites bar, I'm not as excited about it as other folks are. Also, I haven't taken time yet to try the conversations feature, so I can't comment on it. Overall, I am quite happy to have the expanded set of layout options and features found in Lion Mail. Cheers, Bryan On Jul 30, 2011, at 8:55 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Hey I had never used VO+Shift and the end or home keys, I have just tried this though and it works great! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Music player
Good evening all! I'm a new mac user, fresh from the windows world, so when I learned that iTunes was the default music player on the mac, I sort of panicked since, well, umm, iTunes really sucks in windows! So, here's my question, what do you all use to play mp3's and ogg files? do you just stick with iTunes, which admitedly, is much better, and nicer on the mac, or is there a third party software you all like for playing your music? Thanks in advance for any and all feedback! Angie and Guide dog Essence, and lazy cat Caleb! the king of this particular hill! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Music player
Hello Angie, I personally use VLC and Cog for music playing. iTunes is fantastic, but there are times I just want to cue up a folder/playlist without first having to add it to my library. I use iTunes more as a means of organizing my iDevices than as an actual player of media. Just a few thoughts to get you started, and congratulations on making the switch. Foursquare: IndigoCellist Twitter: @IndigoCellist Skype: shameless_FanGirl Sent from my iPhone On Jul 30, 2011, at 10:33 PM, Angie Giltinan rox0...@gmail.com wrote: Good evening all! I'm a new mac user, fresh from the windows world, so when I learned that iTunes was the default music player on the mac, I sort of panicked since, well, umm, iTunes really sucks in windows! So, here's my question, what do you all use to play mp3's and ogg files? do you just stick with iTunes, which admitedly, is much better, and nicer on the mac, or is there a third party software you all like for playing your music? Thanks in advance for any and all feedback! Angie and Guide dog Essence, and lazy cat Caleb! the king of this particular hill! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Music player
Thanks for your suggestions, a few questions, if you don't mind? are vlc and cog accessible, and when do you use which as for the switch from windows to mac, I'm really loving it! Alex as a voice is wonderful, and the fact that Vo comes preloaded on every mac is incredible! On Jul 30, 2011, at 10:37 PM, ShamelessFanGirl wrote: Hello Angie, I personally use VLC and Cog for music playing. iTunes is fantastic, but there are times I just want to cue up a folder/playlist without first having to add it to my library. I use iTunes more as a means of organizing my iDevices than as an actual player of media. Just a few thoughts to get you started, and congratulations on making the switch. Foursquare: IndigoCellist Twitter: @IndigoCellist Skype: shameless_FanGirl Sent from my iPhone On Jul 30, 2011, at 10:33 PM, Angie Giltinan rox0...@gmail.com wrote: Good evening all! I'm a new mac user, fresh from the windows world, so when I learned that iTunes was the default music player on the mac, I sort of panicked since, well, umm, iTunes really sucks in windows! So, here's my question, what do you all use to play mp3's and ogg files? do you just stick with iTunes, which admitedly, is much better, and nicer on the mac, or is there a third party software you all like for playing your music? Thanks in advance for any and all feedback! Angie and Guide dog Essence, and lazy cat Caleb! the king of this particular hill! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Music player
I recently upgraded to Lion, so currently use VLC more than Cog. With each, you open the app, press cmd O, browse to your desired music location, open it, and you're off and running. VLC has some unlabeled buttons, but you can take care of that via voiceover's labeling method. Both apps have keyboard shortcuts available for nearly every function of the respective player, and both are very accessible IMO. Also, and this is simply me being me, but I love the customizable EQ in VLC. Made me run out and buy amazing speakers for my Mac. :D Again, I hope that helps. Foursquare: IndigoCellist Twitter: @IndigoCellist Skype: shameless_FanGirl Sent from my iPhone On Jul 30, 2011, at 10:44 PM, Angie Giltinan rox0...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your suggestions, a few questions, if you don't mind? are vlc and cog accessible, and when do you use which as for the switch from windows to mac, I'm really loving it! Alex as a voice is wonderful, and the fact that Vo comes preloaded on every mac is incredible! On Jul 30, 2011, at 10:37 PM, ShamelessFanGirl wrote: Hello Angie, I personally use VLC and Cog for music playing. iTunes is fantastic, but there are times I just want to cue up a folder/playlist without first having to add it to my library. I use iTunes more as a means of organizing my iDevices than as an actual player of media. Just a few thoughts to get you started, and congratulations on making the switch. Foursquare: IndigoCellist Twitter: @IndigoCellist Skype: shameless_FanGirl Sent from my iPhone On Jul 30, 2011, at 10:33 PM, Angie Giltinan rox0...@gmail.com wrote: Good evening all! I'm a new mac user, fresh from the windows world, so when I learned that iTunes was the default music player on the mac, I sort of panicked since, well, umm, iTunes really sucks in windows! So, here's my question, what do you all use to play mp3's and ogg files? do you just stick with iTunes, which admitedly, is much better, and nicer on the mac, or is there a third party software you all like for playing your music? Thanks in advance for any and all feedback! Angie and Guide dog Essence, and lazy cat Caleb! the king of this particular hill! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
searching for mail in lion with classic layout
Hi guys, How do you search for an email in the new mail using the classic layout? In SL all you had to do was type the search in the search box. That seams to have been removed in lion, and cmd F brings up a search feature that doesn't seam to do anything. Can anyone help? And I do apologise in advance if I don't reply or thank someone, I haven't quite got the hang of the new mail yet, so I am missing some emails if my inbox is over full. As it is at the moment! lol. Thanks, Kari. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Where's Front Row in Lion?
HI list, Anyone know what happened to Front Row in Lion?¬ It doesn't seem to be anywhere on my Mac. If there's somewhere I can download it again from Apple, I'd appreciate any info. Thanks, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: managing a forum with mac
Hello Max, You Wrote: Hello; I've been looking into ways of stimulating traffic on my site and am considering adding a forum. Could anyone on the list give me some advice as to a program to maintain it. It would be best if it were fairly simple to install and incorporate into my existing site. Also, I'd appreciate any general advice on the subject of forums. Thanks. Max, While your question is an excellent one, I think there are too many variables to take into account in order to provide any meaningful feedback on-list. The answer to your question depends on things such as how your site is hosted, what level of back-end access do you have to your server, the type of content management system, if any, you use, etc. If you send me a contact telephone number, off-list, and the best times to reach you, I will be happy to discuss this with you on the phone. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maxwell Ivey Jr. Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 3:19 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: managing a forum with mac Hello; I've been looking into ways of stimulating traffic on my site and am considering adding a forum. Could anyone on the list give me some advice as to a program to maintain it. It would be best if it were fairly simple to install and incorporate into my existing site. Also, I'd appreciate any general advice on the subject of forums. Thanks, Max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: speech loss
Hello Joe, You wrote: i lost speach for some reason on my iMack, how to get it back please? Joe, Did you ever get speech restored back to your iMac? If so, what was the problem? Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of joseph Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 4:03 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: speech loss hi list i lost speach for some reason on my iMack, how to get it back please? thank you in advance best -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Looking for an accessible DVD ripper
You Wrote: What size files does handbreak put these files in? Answer, The resulting file size will depend upon the type of format to which you choose to rip. Mark From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of KliphSharrie Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 4:51 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Looking for an accessible DVD ripper What size files does handbreak put these files in? Are you married and a Christian? Do you want to improve or save your marriage? Then come join our family of Married Christian couples at http://groups.google.com/group/committed-married-christians It's for Husband's and Wives, packed with articles, resources, and discussions to help you with your lifelong unity with 1 another. I guarantee you will not regret it, and your marriage will thank you! directly subscribe here: committed-married-christians+subscr...@googlegroups.com Hope to see you there! On Jul 30, 2011, at 6:26 PM, Paul Henrichsen wrote: Thanks, guys. It is the protected ones I an interested in. I can't tell for sure but handbrake looks accessible from what little I've seen. Haven't tried a DVD yet. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com wrote: Hi Brett! Quite a while ago someone talked about a software called mac the ripper! It might do what you want [I don't know] And unless someone else give's you a link I'm afraid it's off to google for you! hth Colin On 29 Jul 2011, at 18:59, Brett C. wrote: DVD Remaster is accessible and works well, but it won't rip protected DVDs, which happens to be most movies you purchase and want to put into iTunes. :( Brett C. On Jul 29, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Doug Lawlor wrote: Hi Paul, Check out dvd remaster. This program should do what you want and is very accessible. I'm not sure how much it is because when I bought the program it was on sale for 90% off the list price. Doug On 2011-07-29, at 1:42 PM, Paul Henrichsen wrote: Hi, guys. I am looking for an accessible DVD cloning program like Handbrake. I want to convert DVD's to m4v files I can copy to my iPhone. If handbrake is accessible, that's great; but is there a better one? I'd also like a program which will clone the DVD so I can have a backup and put the original away for safe keeping. I have clone DVD and Clone DVD mobile along with Any DVD HD from slysoft for windows, but they are totally inaccessible under windows. Is there something similar to the slysoft programs that is accessible on the mac? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group,
RE: Where's Front Row in Lion?
Hi Kevin, Front Row is no longer available in Lion. Apple decided to take it out for some reason. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Shaw Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 11:46 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Where's Front Row in Lion? HI list, Anyone know what happened to Front Row in Lion?¬ It doesn't seem to be anywhere on my Mac. If there's somewhere I can download it again from Apple, I'd appreciate any info. Thanks, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Where's Front Row in Lion?
Hi Kevin, Front Row was removed under Lion. There's a way to get it back, but if you have updated to iTunes 10.4, the new framework used for the iTunes Library music content prevents them from playing in Front Row. If you want to read about this, the primary web page is Ralph Perdomo's Front Row Enabler for Lion site: http://www.mac-hatter.com/blog/frontrowenablerforlion This contains a download link to a FrontRow Enable for Lion.pkg that was built from 5 files from Snow Leopard (for those who do not want to separately copy over these files from your backup disks and build a package): /System/Library/CoreServices/Front Row.app /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/BackRow.framework /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/iPhotoAccess.framework /System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.RemoteUI.plist /Applications/Front Row.app However, as the author notes in his updated blog, as long as you use iTunes 10.4 this implementation of Front Row will only work to play movies and photos, since the new music framework is not compatible with the old Front Row implementation. You can probably Google for other discussions of the decision to drop Front Row support in Lion. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jul 30, 2011, at 18:45, Kevin Shaw wrote: HI list, Anyone know what happened to Front Row in Lion?¬ It doesn't seem to be anywhere on my Mac. If there's somewhere I can download it again from Apple, I'd appreciate any info. Thanks, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Lion Mail
Hello Chris, You are quite correct in that using the Tab key to switch to the Message Contents area of Lion Mail, in the non-classic view may result in the text of the message not being automatically read. Since recording the podcast on how I use Lion Mail, instead of using single-key navigation, exclusively, I now employ the following technique: 1. With conversations collapsed, press the Tab key to jump to the Message Contents area (as described in the podcast). Generally, the text of the first message encountered will be read automatically. 2. Instead of using either the left or right arrow key to quickly switch between messages in the thread, add the VoiceOver key and each messasge in the thread will be read automatically. That is use VO+LeftArrow and VO+ RightArrow. Even with conversations collapsed, using VO+J will jump one directly into the text of the selected/displayed message; however, should one use the jump command from the messages table, the VO+Arrow key method of switching between messages in the thread will not work unless one stops interacting with the text of the message. As for me, I use a combination of all of these techniques excluding opening the conversation from the messages table. In short, there is no silver bullet here; each person has to find her/his own way in deciding how best to use Lion Mail. Those who may not have heard the podcast to which I am referring may http://mark.candleshoreblog.com/2011/07/27/ep98-mark-on-osx-lion-mail-with- voiceover/ Click Here to go to the BLOG posting containing the show. Chris, it's good to see you posting on-list. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 5:22 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Lion Mail Hi all, I am interested to know how everyone is now using Lion Mail? At first, I was using the classic view, but now I have switched to the new standard 3 column layout. I have my messages grouped by conversation (collapsed) and I used to hit enter to open all of the conversations (previously known as threads) in various windows. The oldest message would appear at the front, but in Lion the newest window opens in the front. So I have stopped using this method. I then listened to Mark Taylor's podcast on how he uses Mail. He simply just uses the tab key to jump between each of the 3 columns. I tried this method and found it ok, but I felt it did not always auto read the message. However, it is not a bad approach if you only want to use one key on the keyboard. Whilst Mark is in the message contents view, he then uses the arrow keys to move back and forth (left and right) between the messages within the thread). interesting approach, but I think I have found a better way. I looked to see if Apple had uploaded the VO online help file yet, and indeed they have. Apple suggest using VO+J to jumps between the messages list and the content of the message. I tried this and it works great. So now I just scroll down my messages list, if I see a thread or conversation I like the look of, then I just expand it by pressing the right arrow and then move to the first message in the thread/conversation and then press VO+J, VO will then start reading the message immediately and skips reading the mail header (who the message is from) and to jump back to the messages list, just either hit backspace to delete the message or press VO+J again which will take you back to the messages list to where you were in the list. I find this approach works really well, and I might implement the favourites function in lion mail to quickly jump between mail boxes and folders by holding down the command key and a number. For more information about the new favourites feature in mail,, then check out Ricardo Walker's excellent podcast. I would be interested to know how others are now using mail, and what about using it with the track pad? I have not done it that way yet as I have mainly been using Lion on my iMac with a full keyboard. However, I still really miss being able to jump to the top or bottom of my messages list (VO+command and either up or down arrow), this no longer works. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit
Ripping vinyl to digital music formats on theMac [was Re: a music question]
Hi Carolyn, This is a somewhat late reply to your query on saving music from LPs to digital format. Eric Caron did a nice podcast on Blind Cool Tech describing how to use Amadeus Pro to digitize his old LPs: Amadeus Pro Vinyl to CD (January 27, 2010). The following link may work, or you may have to go back to the Blind Cool Tech web pages: http://media.libsyn.com/media/bct/bct1436AmadeusProVinylToCD.mp3 Eric outlined all the steps in detail, and he also used a Griffin iMic: http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/imic Allison also has a podcast giving an overview of Amadeus Pro on her web site: http://gwenna.podbean.com (Type Amadeus Pro into the search box on that site to find the episode) I think Eric's podcast will answer most of the questions you have. Since you mention wanting to get the very best sound quality out of classical music LPs, instead of the Griffin iMic, you might want to use an external sound card, such as an M-Audio Fast Track or Fast Track Pro (recently discussed on list). Amadeus Pro is now up to Amadeus Pro 2, but they also still have the original version, and they also have 30-day free trials, if you don't already have it. I like the way you can de-noise tracks by selecting a section of blank track, then letting the program analyze the characteristics and apply them to de-noising selected regions that you want to clean up. Since you can sample the results, and undo the changes if you don't like results, this works very well. However, this method is really better for removing tape hiss than for cleaning up cracks and pops in LPs. There was a good TidBITS article on this: • Media Creation - Transferring Vinyl LPs to Digital: One Approach by Matt Neuberg 10 Mar 2010 http://tidbits.com/article/11072 Matt Neuberg links to a suggested external device at Sweetwater -- a TASCAM US-144mkII for $139.95 to provide better quality audio A/D conversion than simply plugging into your laptop's audio or USB input and handling it that way. (These are links that appear within the main article, and you have to follow them to find out the device details). The article outlines other considerations and details behind his decisions. You don't have to follow these options, and using the steps that Eric took in his BCT podcast just using Amadeus Pro may be enough for you. But a read through of the article will certainly answer your questions about what other steps you can take to get the very best sound quality, how much work/expense is involved, and what the trade-offs are. For example, I know someone who started recording with the Griffin iMic on the old macvisionaries list (pre-2009), and then decided she wanted the better recording quality of a separate sound card. Having a specific, direct link to a reasonably priced product ($140 for an external unit that works for Mac laptops and is current, including shipping), and knowing that someone has vetted as working in this setup is quite useful, even if you decide this is not for you. And you don't have to switch to multiple apps for the sound recording, editing, and cleaning stages as the author does. The main additional issues you may want to consider, beyond what Eric covered in his BCT podcast, are what additional steps you want to take in cleaning your classical music tracks. Some music aficionados use a product from Bias called Sound Soap to clean their music. The problem is, Bias software products and their iOS apps have not been particularly accessible. Bias has a new product called SoundSaver in the Mac App Store that they bill as being the simplest way to archive your LPs and tapes. Given my suspicions about the accessibility of their products, if you want to give this a test, I'd recommending using the link to their 14-day free download trial before spending money for this (around $50). Here's the SoundSaver URL: http://www.bias-inc.com/products/soundSaver/ There was also some earlier discussions on list about de-noising products: • Audio Restoration page by Brian Davies: http://www.maths.anu.edu.au/~briand/sound/ I think the above URL is now redirected to: http://www.clickrepair.net/ This is a page about restoring recordings from LPs and tapes that you digitally capture. The author, Brian Davies, has developed software products for both click repair of LPs and de-noising hiss. (I haven't tried these, so I don't know how they work under VoiceOver). There are sound samples, and the results sound impressive. There are links to his software (each is about $40, but I think there are free trials) for ClickRepair, and DeNoise. There are also links to web pages about digitizing LPs and tapes. The author is a retired math professor who developed this software for saving his own recordings. According to some earlier discussions in the TidBITS discussions on Audio Processing Software, these are generally esteemed as some of the best and most effective
PDF to text converterS, anyone?
Hi all, I am in need of a program that converts pdf files to text files. Can anyone here recommend such an app? Cordially, Rafael Bejarano -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
