RE: very weird and inconsistant behavior with conversations

[M. Taylor]

Ray, 

 

Believe it or not, I have experienced what seemed like a gremlin in my Mac,
as well from time-to-time.  More often than not, the inconsistency was me
and not the computer.  

 

Even though I am certain that you have done much of what I am about to
offer, I suggest you do the following:  

 

1.

Confirm that no one else has used your Mac.

 

2.

Confirm that you have not installed any third-party applications that may
use the Mail Client engine.  

 

3.

Check and re-check the View Tab Settings in the Preferences Window paying
special attention to the item that reads include related messages in thread.

 

4.

While in the Message Table Open the Menu Bar located at the top of the Mail
Client Window and select the View Menu.  Take your time and go through the
items on this menu with a fine-tooth comb being sure to select Collapsed all
conversations.

 

Good Luck,

 

Mark  

 

 

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:29 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: very weird and inconsistant behavior with conversations

 

Okay,

 

Want another weirdness?  Here you go.  For at least three days now, I've
been able to expand a conversation in Mail by using the right arrow key and
then arrowing to each message I wish to read and pressing VO+j to interact
with the text and just read.  Now, starting with this session of Mail, I
find that I hear the bong sound when ever I go to use the right arrow to
expand conversations.  Quick Nav is always off.  I do interact with the
message table when I go in to Mail.  Now, to read a conversation, I need to
press tab to get in to the message content table and use VO up and down to
rad the conversation.  When I do it this way, I always hear the header
detail and so forth.  Any thoughts on what I might want to change?

 

 

Sincerely,

The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

 

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

 

Skype name:

barefootedray

 

Facebook:

facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1  





 

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RE: iPhone not locking when on call

[M. Taylor]

Brandon, 

You Wrote:
"My fiancé is having a problem where her iPhone is not locking while she is
on the phone. So, she ends up accidentally pressing buttons and such while
she is talking, and it is quite annoying both for her and the people with
whom she is talking."

Brandon, I suggest the following:  

1.
Make sure the two devices have the exact same firmware build.  

2.
Confirm that they are not jail broken.

3.
Confirm that they are using the same wireless provider. 

4.
Remove any third-party case from her phone.

5.
Make a call from her phone, yourself, and confirm the problem.  Conversely,
let her use your phone and see if she has the same problem.

Mark







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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Olivares
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 8:29 PM
To: “Mac Visionaries“
Subject: iPhone not locking when on call

Hello,

My fiancé is having a problem where her iPhone is not locking while she is
on the phone. So, she ends up accidentally pressing buttons and such while
she is talking, and it is quite annoying both for her and the people with
whom she is talking.

I've looked through the settings, but can't find anything. Mine is not
having this problem, so I have no idea. Does anyone know why this might be
happening and how to fix it?

Thanks,
Brandon

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Re: very weird and inconsistant behavior with conversations

[carlene knight]

I have a menu that keeps popping up when I try to expand the conversation and 
that wasn't happening earlier.  I think that maybe our computers are talking to 
each other somehow and have decided to play tricks on us.
On Aug 2, 2011, at 7:29 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Okay,
> 
> Want another weirdness?  Here you go.  For at least three days now, I've been 
> able to expand a conversation in Mail by using the right arrow key and then 
> arrowing to each message I wish to read and pressing VO+j to interact with 
> the text and just read.  Now, starting with this session of Mail, I find that 
> I hear the bong sound when ever I go to use the right arrow to expand 
> conversations.  Quick Nav is always off.  I do interact with the message 
> table when I go in to Mail.  Now, to read a conversation, I need to press tab 
> to get in to the message content table and use VO up and down to rad the 
> conversation.  When I do it this way, I always hear the header detail and so 
> forth.  Any thoughts on what I might want to change?
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Finder and Dashboard driving me crazy

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

go into system prefs/mission control.  Now all the pop up menus after Keyboard 
and Mouse Shortcuts?  Change them to dash dash to disable them.

hth  

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www.mobileaccess.org

On Aug 2, 2011, at 10:52 PM, carlene knight wrote:

Hi:

When I hit the VO keys a lot, such as in Facebook, I either get the dashboard 
or finder popping up as one has a hotkey of control+left arrow and the other 
control+right arrow.  I know I'm pissing and moaning, but am I the only one 
with this problem?  Sorry for my rant.

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iPhone not locking when on call

[Brandon Olivares]

Hello,

My fiancé is having a problem where her iPhone is not locking while she is on 
the phone. So, she ends up accidentally pressing buttons and such while she is 
talking, and it is quite annoying both for her and the people with whom she is 
talking.

I've looked through the settings, but can't find anything. Mine is not having 
this problem, so I have no idea. Does anyone know why this might be happening 
and how to fix it?

Thanks,
Brandon

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Finder and Dashboard driving me crazy

[carlene knight]

Hi:

When I hit the VO keys a lot, such as in Facebook, I either get the dashboard 
or finder popping up as one has a hotkey of control+left arrow and the other 
control+right arrow.  I know I'm pissing and moaning, but am I the only one 
with this problem?  Sorry for my rant.

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Re: where do the new voices go?

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Not to mention that the compact voices sound like the voices used in iPods and 
iPhones, especially Samantha.

Shawn

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question about viewing calendars in Ical

[Laura Bratton]

HI all,
I  have created  two different calendars in Ical. One for home and one for 
work. When I create an event I choose  "home" or "work" under event details so 
that the event I created will be under the correct calendar.
When I try to view the events on one of the calendars, all events for both home 
and work come up. I have tried interacting with each calendar but it still 
reads events from  both. 
What am I doing wrong? IS there a way to have VO only read the events for the 
calendar that I have chosen?
Thanks for any help,
Laura 

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Re: where do the new voices go?

[Ray Foret Jr]

I know exactly what you mean Mike.  I'm using the Samantha voice on my Mac, my 
Iphone and my Stream.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

Facebook:
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On Aug 2, 2011, at 9:22 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

> I actually like the nuance voices quite a bit, I like them better than 
> acapela voices actually, speech is a very subjective thing though.
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 8:33 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
> 
>> Agreed! I'm already not a super big fan of Nuance voices in general, so the 
>> compact versions just weren't an option. The high
>> quality versions are actually listenable, though; I really like Karen and 
>> Lee in particular.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 8:44 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: where do the new voices go?
>> 
>> One interesting thing I noticed, all of the compact voices are there, but I 
>> guess only the ones that you check will be
>> available, the quality difference is huge, honesty I see no reason to use 
>> the compact voices, the quality is just too poor.
>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 10:24 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks for that.  That's exactly where they are stored.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>> 
>>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 6:19 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ricardo!
>>> Someone on the other list suggested that you might find them in
>>> /System/Library/Speech/Voices.
>>> And be able to delete from there!
>>> Colin
>>> On 2 Aug 2011, at 01:27, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
 Hello list,
 
 I was wondering, when you download the new voices found in Lion, where do 
 they go?  I ask because what if you wish to
>> delete them?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
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very weird and inconsistant behavior with conversations

[Ray Foret Jr]

Okay,

Want another weirdness?  Here you go.  For at least three days now, I've been 
able to expand a conversation in Mail by using the right arrow key and then 
arrowing to each message I wish to read and pressing VO+j to interact with the 
text and just read.  Now, starting with this session of Mail, I find that I 
hear the bong sound when ever I go to use the right arrow to expand 
conversations.  Quick Nav is always off.  I do interact with the message table 
when I go in to Mail.  Now, to read a conversation, I need to press tab to get 
in to the message content table and use VO up and down to rad the conversation. 
 When I do it this way, I always hear the header detail and so forth.  Any 
thoughts on what I might want to change?


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

Facebook:
facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1



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Re: where do the new voices go?

[Mike Arrigo]

I actually like the nuance voices quite a bit, I like them better than acapela 
voices actually, speech is a very subjective thing though.
On Aug 2, 2011, at 8:33 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:

> Agreed! I'm already not a super big fan of Nuance voices in general, so the 
> compact versions just weren't an option. The high
> quality versions are actually listenable, though; I really like Karen and Lee 
> in particular.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 8:44 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: where do the new voices go?
> 
> One interesting thing I noticed, all of the compact voices are there, but I 
> guess only the ones that you check will be
> available, the quality difference is huge, honesty I see no reason to use the 
> compact voices, the quality is just too poor.
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 10:24 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for that.  That's exactly where they are stored.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>> www.mobileaccess.org
>> 
>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 6:19 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ricardo!
>> Someone on the other list suggested that you might find them in
>> /System/Library/Speech/Voices.
>> And be able to delete from there!
>> Colin
>> On 2 Aug 2011, at 01:27, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello list,
>>> 
>>> I was wondering, when you download the new voices found in Lion, where do 
>>> they go?  I ask because what if you wish to
> delete them?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>>> www.mobileaccess.org
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Re: where do the new voices go?

[Matt Dierckens]

Do you notice that the australian voices can't read text, but when on the 
IPhone Karen reads just fine. Oh well, the compact voices are nasty anyway.

sent from my macbook pro

On 2011-08-02, at 8:44 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

> One interesting thing I noticed, all of the compact voices are there, but I 
> guess only the ones that you check will be available, the quality difference 
> is huge, honesty I see no reason to use the compact voices, the quality is 
> just too poor.
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 10:24 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for that.  That's exactly where they are stored.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>> www.mobileaccess.org
>> 
>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 6:19 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ricardo!
>> Someone on the other list suggested that you might find them in
>> /System/Library/Speech/Voices.
>> And be able to delete from there!
>> Colin
>> On 2 Aug 2011, at 01:27, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello list,
>>> 
>>> I was wondering, when you download the new voices found in Lion, where do 
>>> they go?  I ask because what if you wish to delete them?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>>> www.mobileaccess.org
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Re: speech loss

[joseph]

hi

funny enough, pressing control and arrows on my virtual machine brings up 
dashboard.  i have no idea why this is happening since i installed lion.

best
On 2 Aug 2011, at 22:40, carlene knight wrote:

> Hi:
> 
> I just used the screen saver that dimmed the screen; the default one, but 
> suspecting that, I turned it off to no avail.  I haven't had the problem 
> today though as soon as I post this I probably will.  That's usually what 
> happens.  :)  I think that it was because the Log Me In program was not 
> hidden.
> 
> On a different note, I discovered quite by accident that control+left arrow 
> brings up the dashboard.  I couldn't figure out why it kept popping up.  Make 
> sure you press that option key good and solidly.   :) F12 still works also.   
> I have a feeling it has to do with that spaces and applications thing.
> 
> On  Aug 1, 2011, at 8:13 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Do you guys use screen savers?  Maybe this is the problem?  I'm just taking 
>> a shot in the dark here.  After waking my MBP, speech comes back right away. 
>>  
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>> www.mobileaccess.org
>> 
>> On Aug 1, 2011, at 5:21 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>> Same here, I constantly loose speech if the Mac Book is left.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 1 Aug 2011, at 05:59 AM, carlene knight  wrote:
>> 
>>> I've been losing speech often since upgrading to Lion.  If I leave my 
>>> computer for an hour or two, I can pretty much guarantee that VO will not 
>>> work.  It takes a while to get it toggled back on as well.  Were you using 
>>> your computer  when speech  went away?
>>> On Jul 31, 2011, at 3:18 AM, joseph wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Mark
 
 Speech not restored  Cmd5, f10 did not help.
 
 Best
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 31 Jul 2011, at 05:53 AM, "M. Taylor"  wrote:
 
> Hello Joe,
> 
> You wrote: 
> " i lost speach for some reason on my iMack, how to get it back please?"
> 
> Joe,
> Did you ever get speech restored back to your iMac?  If so, what was the
> problem?
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> i lost speach for some reason on my iMack, how to get it back please?
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Re: Safari

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Its nothing to complicated, I promise. :).  Webkit is the engine running 
underneath safari.  Its a open source project, and they are always putting out 
nightly builds.  So you find yourself having fixes earlier.  Problem is, Once 
in a very blue moon, a annoying bug will be introduced.  In the year plus I've 
used webkit, this has not happened to my knowledge.  Maybe others can speak 
better to that than I.  But webkit looks, acts, and feels just like safari.  
Here goes the link to the download page for the latest build of webkit.

http://nightly.webkit.org/

hth

Ricardo Walker
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On Aug 2, 2011, at 9:35 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:

What is web kit and how would I go about finding/installing it? I don't know if 
that would be too advanced for me to handle
at this stage, but I really do want typing feedback back in saphari.


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On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 9:09 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Safari

Hi,

I have seen this but more often than not I'm getting typing feedback.  I'm not 
sure if this will make a difference but, maybe
people who are encountering this problem often might want to consider using web 
kit.

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
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www.mobileaccess.org

On Aug 2, 2011, at 9:05 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:

Hi! I'm noticing that too. Even though my typing verbosity is set to 
characters, I almost never hear what I'm typing in
saphari. In fact, the only place I'm getting reliable keyboard echo seems to be 
text edit. I'm still using SL, so I'm
guessing this is something weird with the new Saphari. Of course, I could be 
wrong, but for what it's worth, that's my
theory.
Missy


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Selena Sang
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 12:54 PM
To: Mac Visionaries
Subject: Safari

Hey, I don't know if it's me with the problem with the new update to safari and 
pages like Google, but I have been
experiencing some problems with text fields. When I go to google to search, 
voiceover does not read anything I'm typing
though it does type. After my search is complete and I want to search again, 
sometimes it reads as I'm typing. I've noticed
this with a few other sites but can't think of them right now. Does anyone know 
if this is a google thing or a voiceover
thing or a safari thing?

Selena

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RE: Safari

[Missy Hoppe]

What is web kit and how would I go about finding/installing it? I don't know if 
that would be too advanced for me to handle
at this stage, but I really do want typing feedback back in saphari.


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On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 9:09 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Safari

Hi,

I have seen this but more often than not I'm getting typing feedback.  I'm not 
sure if this will make a difference but, maybe
people who are encountering this problem often might want to consider using web 
kit.

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Aug 2, 2011, at 9:05 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:

Hi! I'm noticing that too. Even though my typing verbosity is set to 
characters, I almost never hear what I'm typing in
saphari. In fact, the only place I'm getting reliable keyboard echo seems to be 
text edit. I'm still using SL, so I'm
guessing this is something weird with the new Saphari. Of course, I could be 
wrong, but for what it's worth, that's my
theory.
Missy


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Selena Sang
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 12:54 PM
To: Mac Visionaries
Subject: Safari

Hey, I don't know if it's me with the problem with the new update to safari and 
pages like Google, but I have been
experiencing some problems with text fields. When I go to google to search, 
voiceover does not read anything I'm typing
though it does type. After my search is complete and I want to search again, 
sometimes it reads as I'm typing. I've noticed
this with a few other sites but can't think of them right now. Does anyone know 
if this is a google thing or a voiceover
thing or a safari thing?

Selena

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RE: where do the new voices go?

[Missy Hoppe]

Agreed! I'm already not a super big fan of Nuance voices in general, so the 
compact versions just weren't an option. The high
quality versions are actually listenable, though; I really like Karen and Lee 
in particular.

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On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 8:44 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: where do the new voices go?

One interesting thing I noticed, all of the compact voices are there, but I 
guess only the ones that you check will be
available, the quality difference is huge, honesty I see no reason to use the 
compact voices, the quality is just too poor.
On Aug 2, 2011, at 10:24 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Thanks for that.  That's exactly where they are stored.
>
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
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> www.mobileaccess.org
>
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 6:19 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:
>
> Hi Ricardo!
> Someone on the other list suggested that you might find them in
> /System/Library/Speech/Voices.
> And be able to delete from there!
> Colin
> On 2 Aug 2011, at 01:27, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>
>> Hello list,
>>
>> I was wondering, when you download the new voices found in Lion, where do 
>> they go?  I ask because what if you wish to
delete them?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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Re: Safari

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I have seen this but more often than not I'm getting typing feedback.  I'm not 
sure if this will make a difference but, maybe people who are encountering this 
problem often might want to consider using web kit.

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Aug 2, 2011, at 9:05 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:

Hi! I'm noticing that too. Even though my typing verbosity is set to 
characters, I almost never hear what I'm typing in
saphari. In fact, the only place I'm getting reliable keyboard echo seems to be 
text edit. I'm still using SL, so I'm
guessing this is something weird with the new Saphari. Of course, I could be 
wrong, but for what it's worth, that's my
theory.
Missy


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Selena Sang
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 12:54 PM
To: Mac Visionaries
Subject: Safari

Hey, I don't know if it's me with the problem with the new update to safari and 
pages like Google, but I have been
experiencing some problems with text fields. When I go to google to search, 
voiceover does not read anything I'm typing
though it does type. After my search is complete and I want to search again, 
sometimes it reads as I'm typing. I've noticed
this with a few other sites but can't think of them right now. Does anyone know 
if this is a google thing or a voiceover
thing or a safari thing?

Selena

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Re: first timer question!

[Mike Arrigo]

I would do a clean install, though others have had good luck with the upgrade, 
I just prefer to start fresh with a new operating system. Whether you choose 
the upgradeor clean install, it's totally accessible through the whole process, 
that's something windows can't even come close to.
On Aug 2, 2011, at 7:02 PM, craig J Dunlop wrote:

> in the past I have installed windows with little to no speech and had sighted 
> assistance. this will be my first time doing a mac install.
> will vo talk during the install? and is it worth it to do a clean install ore 
> is the upgrade working for people.
> I am thinking that now is the time to do it because I just got the macbook in 
> April and I don't have to much on it to restore after the install if needed.
> I am sure some of you can relate to this  but at work I kept trying to exit 
> outlook on my p.c. by hitting the command q and surprise surprise it would 
> not work and I started getting mad before I realized what I was doing.
> thanks for all of the help given so far.
> Craig D
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Re: where do the new voices go?

[Ricardo Walker]

I couldn't agree more.  Some of them are just down right unintelligible in my 
opinion. 

Ricardo Walker
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On Aug 2, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

One interesting thing I noticed, all of the compact voices are there, but I 
guess only the ones that you check will be available, the quality difference is 
huge, honesty I see no reason to use the compact voices, the quality is just 
too poor.
On Aug 2, 2011, at 10:24 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Thanks for that.  That's exactly where they are stored.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
> www.mobileaccess.org
> 
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 6:19 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:
> 
> Hi Ricardo!
> Someone on the other list suggested that you might find them in
> /System/Library/Speech/Voices.
> And be able to delete from there!
> Colin
> On 2 Aug 2011, at 01:27, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hello list,
>> 
>> I was wondering, when you download the new voices found in Lion, where do 
>> they go?  I ask because what if you wish to delete them?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>> www.mobileaccess.org
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RE: Safari

[Missy Hoppe]

Hi! I'm noticing that too. Even though my typing verbosity is set to 
characters, I almost never hear what I'm typing in
saphari. In fact, the only place I'm getting reliable keyboard echo seems to be 
text edit. I'm still using SL, so I'm
guessing this is something weird with the new Saphari. Of course, I could be 
wrong, but for what it's worth, that's my
theory.
Missy


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Selena Sang
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 12:54 PM
To: Mac Visionaries
Subject: Safari

Hey, I don't know if it's me with the problem with the new update to safari and 
pages like Google, but I have been
experiencing some problems with text fields. When I go to google to search, 
voiceover does not read anything I'm typing
though it does type. After my search is complete and I want to search again, 
sometimes it reads as I'm typing. I've noticed
this with a few other sites but can't think of them right now. Does anyone know 
if this is a google thing or a voiceover
thing or a safari thing?

Selena

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Re: File associations

[Mike Arrigo]

To get pdf files to open in preview, do the following. Highlight a PDF file, 
and press command i for the info window. Navigate to the extension section, you 
may have to expand it. You will find an option for what to use to open the 
file, open the pop up menu and choose preview. Right after that is a check box 
to open all documents of this type with the same application, check that and 
you should be good to go.
On Aug 2, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote:

> Guys,
> What is the equivalent of file associations in the Mac world.
> Currently, all PDFs open in an inaccessible version of Acrobat
> Reader.  I can read things in Preview, but don't know how to make all
> PDFs open in Preview instead of Acrobat.  How do I do this?
> Thanks,
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Re: where do the new voices go?

[Mike Arrigo]

One interesting thing I noticed, all of the compact voices are there, but I 
guess only the ones that you check will be available, the quality difference is 
huge, honesty I see no reason to use the compact voices, the quality is just 
too poor.
On Aug 2, 2011, at 10:24 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Thanks for that.  That's exactly where they are stored.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
> www.mobileaccess.org
> 
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 6:19 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:
> 
> Hi Ricardo!
> Someone on the other list suggested that you might find them in
> /System/Library/Speech/Voices.
> And be able to delete from there!
> Colin
> On 2 Aug 2011, at 01:27, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hello list,
>> 
>> I was wondering, when you download the new voices found in Lion, where do 
>> they go?  I ask because what if you wish to delete them?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>> www.mobileaccess.org
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Re: where do the new voices go?

[Mike Arrigo]

I just checked, the voics are definitely there. You may not want to just delete 
them though, if the system still thinks they are there, it may cause problems. 
I think if you uncheck the option for each voice, it may uninstall them, not 
sure on that though. The premium voices definitely use a large speech print, 
which is good, Apple choe to use the highest quality possible. While smaller 
speech prints take less space, the quality of the speech definitely suffers as 
a result.
On Aug 2, 2011, at 5:19 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:

> Hi Ricardo!
> Someone on the other list suggested that you might find them in
> /System/Library/Speech/Voices.
> And be able to delete from there!
> Colin
> On 2 Aug 2011, at 01:27, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hello list,
>> 
>> I was wondering, when you download the new voices found in Lion, where do 
>> they go?  I ask because what if you wish to delete them?
>> 
>> Thanks.
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Re: Another mail question with Lion

[carlene knight]

Thanks.  I was afraid that if I tapped the hide button it would do just that 
and hide something I wanted to see.  I forgot that it toggles.  Thanks so much. 
 That's confusing to my wee little brain.  :)
On Aug 2, 2011, at 4:52 PM, André Nuno Soares wrote:

> Hello carlene,
> 
> This still works, you just have to do a few extra steps:
> 1) Open the message with enter.
> 2) VO left arrow to move to the "message headers group".
> 3) Interact with the "message headers group".
> 4) VO right arrow to the link that reads "details" or "hide". If it's 
> "details", VO space on it.
> 5) VO left arrow to "message headers text".
> 6) Interact with it.
> 
> And that's it,  you're in a headers section very similar to the Snow Leopard 
> one. 
> 
> Note however, that you can only move around with VO arrow keys, while in SL 
> you could do it simply with the arrow keys.
> 
> 
> HTH,
> André
> 
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 8:15 PM, carlene knight wrote:
> 
>> Hi:
>> 
>> I was going to personally reply to a list member but I can't figure out how 
>> to highlight each header.  Before, I could open the message with return, 
>> shift tab to headers, vo/right arrow to the email address so that I could 
>> select it.  Now I can't seem to highlight any headers and I don't think 
>> they're hidden as I can see the info, I just can't seem to place the cursor 
>> on any particular heading.  It's been a heck of a long time since I 
>> attempted this, and I am barely computer literate so it might be obvious, 
>> and if so, I apologize.  I've got mail in classic view.  Thanks in advance.
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Accessing the menus in ITunes 10.4?

[Paul Hunt]

The vo commands don't work in ITunes 10.4 and neither does the commnd. How do I 
access the menus?

On Aug 2, 2011, at 7:02 PM, craig J Dunlop  wrote:

> in the past I have installed windows with little to no speech and had sighted 
> assistance. this will be my first time doing a mac install.
> will vo talk during the install? and is it worth it to do a clean install ore 
> is the upgrade working for people.
> I am thinking that now is the time to do it because I just got the macbook in 
> April and I don't have to much on it to restore after the install if needed.
> I am sure some of you can relate to this  but at work I kept trying to exit 
> outlook on my p.c. by hitting the command q and surprise surprise it would 
> not work and I started getting mad before I realized what I was doing.
> thanks for all of the help given so far.
> Craig D
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first timer question!

[craig J Dunlop]

in the past I have installed windows with little to no speech and had sighted 
assistance. this will be my first time doing a mac install.
will vo talk during the install? and is it worth it to do a clean install ore 
is the upgrade working for people.
I am thinking that now is the time to do it because I just got the macbook in 
April and I don't have to much on it to restore after the install if needed.
I am sure some of you can relate to this  but at work I kept trying to exit 
outlook on my p.c. by hitting the command q and surprise surprise it would not 
work and I started getting mad before I realized what I was doing.
thanks for all of the help given so far.
Craig D

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RE: Problems with lion: dock extra and apple menu

[Missy Hoppe]

Sadly, I don't think com.apple.doc.extra has anything to do with spotlight. 
I've disabled spotlight to the best of my
ability, and com.apple.doc.extra still shows up. My theory, for what it's 
worth, is that it has something to do with
customizing/rearranging the programs on your doc. My doc is organized just the 
way I like it, and I get the
com.apple.doc.extra every time my macbook starts. When I followed the steps 
that an Apple technical support guy gave me for
resetting my doc to factory defaults, the com.apple.doc.extra went away, but I 
still wasn't on my desktop at startup. The
whole thing is just bizarre.

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On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
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Subject: Re: Problems with lion: dock extra and apple menu

I wonder if it has anything to do with Spotlight?

Teresa
On Jul 31, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Sonnia wrote:

> Wow thanks guys it worked. :)
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RE: [Bulk] Problems with lion: dock extra and apple menu

[Missy Hoppe]

Hmm. I might have to run my external drive version of Lion a bit more. I'm 
still not ready to reinstall it oficially, but
from what I've seen, at least on my system, com.apple.doc.extra isn't going 
away. Yes, I know that all I have to do to get
rid of it is press command tab, but that just seems like a very unnecessary 
step, especially right at startup, and especially
since there was almost never any weirdness like that under SL. Anyway, I'll try 
running the version of Lion I have on an
external drive once in a while and see if com.apple.doc.extra ever does go away.
Missy

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On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 12:00 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Problems with lion: dock extra and apple menu


I have found that, after a few days, the comApple Extra thingie goes away even 
after restart.  Before that, I just pressed
command+tab to get rid of it. 

As for your not being able to open the Apple menu structure, very strange.  
That never gave me trouble.


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On Jul 31, 2011, at 9:39 PM, Sonnia wrote:


Hi everyone. I just upgraded to lion and there's something called "com
apple.extra" or something like that. It won't go away even though it
"has no windows." Also i am hitting VO plus M to open the apple menu
but it doesn't work. I can access the top of the screen (bluetooth,
wifi icons etc.) But i can't access the apple menu. That dock extra
thing is also annoying how can i make it go away?

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Re: Another mail question with Lion

[André Nuno Soares]

Hello carlene,

This still works, you just have to do a few extra steps:
1) Open the message with enter.
2) VO left arrow to move to the "message headers group".
3) Interact with the "message headers group".
4) VO right arrow to the link that reads "details" or "hide". If it's 
"details", VO space on it.
5) VO left arrow to "message headers text".
6) Interact with it.

And that's it,  you're in a headers section very similar to the Snow Leopard 
one. 

Note however, that you can only move around with VO arrow keys, while in SL you 
could do it simply with the arrow keys.


HTH,
André

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> Hi:
> 
> I was going to personally reply to a list member but I can't figure out how 
> to highlight each header.  Before, I could open the message with return, 
> shift tab to headers, vo/right arrow to the email address so that I could 
> select it.  Now I can't seem to highlight any headers and I don't think 
> they're hidden as I can see the info, I just can't seem to place the cursor 
> on any particular heading.  It's been a heck of a long time since I attempted 
> this, and I am barely computer literate so it might be obvious, and if so, I 
> apologize.  I've got mail in classic view.  Thanks in advance.
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Re: gathering an imported audio book in Itunes

[Cara Quinn]

Mark, have you tried selecting your 'Recently Added' playlist in iTunes? This 
will show the latest files you've added so that you can either rename them or 
change their classification to audio book if you choose..

HTH and have a wonderful day!

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On Aug 2, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:

I have an audio book whose tracks have names like 0101-0.mp3 and go all the way 
through 0115_0.mp3 before switching to 02-1_0.mp3, obviously ripped off the 
disks but not given sensible names.  When I selected all five disks with 18 or 
so tracks each, Itunes imported them and then promptly mixed them in with all 
sorts of other "track 1," titles.  

The upshot of this is that I cannot, for the life of me, think of a search term 
which will let me gather all the various little tracks into one order that 
Itunes will play sequentially.  Is there any way to gather all of them together 
so I can play them?

Thanks.


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Re: Safari

[Cara Quinn]

Actually there is a partial work-around. Once you've typed text into a field, 
interact with that field. YOu'll now at least be able to reread / edit your 
text.

this doesn't solve the issue of the characters or words not being spoken as you 
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On Aug 2, 2011, at 4:17 PM, André Nuno Soares wrote:

Hello,

This happens with Safari 5.1 in Snow Leopard.
There's no fix for it for now, except upgrading to Lion, sorry…

HTH,
André

On Aug 2, 2011, at 10:14 PM, Laura Bratton wrote:

> I am having the same problem. It has happened to me on all websites
> where I have tried to enter text. Two of  the websites are Facebook
> and caringbridge.org
> Does anyone have ideas how to correct this?
> Thank you,
> laura Selena Sang wrote:
>> Hey, I don't know if it's me with the problem with the new update to safari 
>> and pages like Google, but I have been experiencing some problems with text 
>> fields. When I go to google to search, voiceover does not read anything I'm 
>> typing though it does type. After my search is complete and I want to search 
>> again, sometimes it reads as I'm typing. I've noticed this with a few other 
>> sites but can't think of them right now. Does anyone know if this is a 
>> google thing or a voiceover thing or a safari thing?
>> 
>> Selena
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Re: seems that Drop Box is now utterly useless with Voice Over.

[Ricardo Walker]

Exactly.

You have to down load the beta.  It is version 1.2.16.

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On Aug 2, 2011, at 3:16 PM, John Panarese wrote:

   There is a new beta that works with Lion.  You might have to grab it and 
then reinstall it.

Take Care

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On Aug 2, 2011, at 3:13 PM, May McDonald wrote:

> I use drop box with no problem with voiceover.
> 
> May and Prince Noah
> On 2011-08-02, at 3:03 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> To the member who noticed an issue with not seeing the Drop Box submenu, I 
>> can verify this fact.  It would appear that we must either:
>> 
>> 1.  Make the people at Drop Box aware of this issue; and, maybe they will 
>> listen or not.
>> 
>> 2.  Report this to Apple.  Most likely, they'll say it's on the developers 
>> to solve this.
>> 
>> 3.  Abandon Drop Box and find another more accessible service.
>> 
>> 4.  Go back to a web interface service.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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Re: Activities.

[Ricardo Walker]

Wow!

How odd.  With safari open, and daniel selected, try opening VO utilities again 
and go to your safari activity.  Then for the "Automatically use this activity 
for" option, choose safari from the pop up menu.

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On Aug 2, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

No Ricardo this is not working, meaning that I can select Daniel for Safari but 
when I quit safari and go back to finder, and change the voice back to Alex, 
open safari, Alex is then the default voice.
On 2 Aug 2011, at 16:29, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi Kawal,
> 
> I think changing the voice manually when you open safari should do it.  Go to 
> Safari and press VO command Left Or  right arrow until you reach the voices 
> category then, press VO command down arrow to select Daniel.  He should be 
> the default voice for Safari now.
> 
> hth
> 
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> On Aug 2, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
> Hello Teresa.
> 
> I did as you have described, but when I opened Safari after turning Voice 
> Over Off and on, I expected to hear Daniel but Alex was still speaking so 
> what is wrong?  I even restarted the Mac just in case.  What do you and 
> others think?
> 
> Kawal.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2 Aug 2011, at 02:24 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
>> Hello, Kawal,
>> 
>> I'll see if I can spell the steps out both thoroughly and concisely.
>> 
>> Open VO Utility and choose Activities from the categories list.  Then go to 
>> the add button and press it. Follow all of the controls on the new activity 
>> screen. You must name your activity by choosing a running application from 
>> the popup menu. There will be checkboxes corresponding to each VO-utility 
>> category. Make sure all the categories you want to adjust are checked. Then 
>> close the window for the activity settings.
>> 
>> I will say that I used one of the Nuance voices in Safari and sometimes it 
>> was not responsive, so I took that setting out of my safari activity.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Teresa
>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello All.
>>> 
>>> I listened to Ricardo's podcast re activities and tried setting a safari 
>>> activity changing the voice too.
>>> 
>>> I turned Voice over off before loading Safari and turned Voice Over back on.
>>> 
>>> The voice did not change so I assume the activity did not work.
>>> 
>>> I wish to know what I am doing wrong as I followed Ricardo's instructions.
>>> 
>>> Thank you all for any replies I might get.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
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Re: Safari

[André Nuno Soares]

Hello,

This happens with Safari 5.1 in Snow Leopard.
There's no fix for it for now, except upgrading to Lion, sorry…

HTH,
André

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> I am having the same problem. It has happened to me on all websites
> where I have tried to enter text. Two of  the websites are Facebook
> and caringbridge.org
> Does anyone have ideas how to correct this?
> Thank you,
> laura Selena Sang wrote:
>> Hey, I don't know if it's me with the problem with the new update to safari 
>> and pages like Google, but I have been experiencing some problems with text 
>> fields. When I go to google to search, voiceover does not read anything I'm 
>> typing though it does type. After my search is complete and I want to search 
>> again, sometimes it reads as I'm typing. I've noticed this with a few other 
>> sites but can't think of them right now. Does anyone know if this is a 
>> google thing or a voiceover thing or a safari thing?
>> 
>> Selena
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Re: Safari

[Red.Falcon]

Hi Laura and Laura! :]
Yes I've inherited this problem as well!
I'm still on SL and I've also got that reading misspelled words in other 
peoples messages!
And a couple of the other things people have mentioned!
Oh well we'll see if all these reports to accessibility might help!
Colin

> I am having the same problem. It has happened to me on all websites
> where I have tried to enter text. Two of  the websites are Facebook
> and caringbridge.org
> Does anyone have ideas how to correct this?
> Thank you,
> laura Selena Sang wrote:
>> Hey, I don't know if it's me with the problem with the new update to safari 
>> and pages like Google, but I have been experiencing some problems with text 
>> fields. When I go to google to search, voiceover does not read anything I'm 
>> typing though it does type. After my search is complete and I want to search 
>> again, sometimes it reads as I'm typing. I've noticed this with a few other 
>> sites but can't think of them right now. Does anyone know if this is a 
>> google thing or a voiceover thing or a safari thing?
>> 
>> Selena
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Re: Another mail question with Lion

[carlene knight]

Thanks for reminding me of that command.  I didn't have to put anything in 
addresses  before, but perhaps I will have too.  Thanks for the thought.
On Aug 2, 2011, at 4:02 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:

> Hi Carlene!
> OK I'm still not using Lion!
> But could the add to address book command help here!
> Or has that been removed!
> Just in case you do not know it, :] the command is command+shift+Y
> Well hth Colin
> 
> On 2 Aug 2011, at 23:45, carlene knight wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hello Simon, and thanks for the reply.  I tried doing this, just now, but 
>> the only header that shows is hide.  I can't get details or anything like 
>> that to come up as I used to.  I'll try it again but this is frustrating.  
>> Thanks again
>> 
>> .On Aug 2, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I've just tried to do this. This is what I did.
>>> 
>>> I vo+left arrow to the message header area. I then interacted with it. Once 
>>> you interact, I moved with vo+right once and landed on "details" link. 
>>> Voiceover actually says here "link". I pressed vo+spacebar on this link. 
>>> This resulted in being able to see the senders address. I then routed my 
>>> mouse cursor to vo with vo+command+f5 and performed mouse click with 
>>> vo+shift+spacebar. This opened a menu for me which gives you a choice of 
>>> replying to sender or adding the sender's details to your address book. 
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> Simon
>>> On 2 Aug 2011, at 20:15, carlene knight wrote:
>>> 
 Hi:
 
 I was going to personally reply to a list member but I can't figure out 
 how to highlight each header.  Before, I could open the message with 
 return, shift tab to headers, vo/right arrow to the email address so that 
 I could select it.  Now I can't seem to highlight any headers and I don't 
 think they're hidden as I can see the info, I just can't seem to place the 
 cursor on any particular heading.  It's been a heck of a long time since I 
 attempted this, and I am barely computer literate so it might be obvious, 
 and if so, I apologise.  I've got mail in classic view.  Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: Another mail question with Lion

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Hi Carlene!
OK I'm still not using Lion!
But could the add to address book command help here!
Or has that been removed!
Just in case you do not know it, :] the command is command+shift+Y
Well hth Colin

On 2 Aug 2011, at 23:45, carlene knight wrote:

> 
> Hello Simon, and thanks for the reply.  I tried doing this, just now, but the 
> only header that shows is hide.  I can't get details or anything like that to 
> come up as I used to.  I'll try it again but this is frustrating.  Thanks 
> again
> 
> .On Aug 2, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I've just tried to do this. This is what I did.
>> 
>> I vo+left arrow to the message header area. I then interacted with it. Once 
>> you interact, I moved with vo+right once and landed on "details" link. 
>> Voiceover actually says here "link". I pressed vo+spacebar on this link. 
>> This resulted in being able to see the senders address. I then routed my 
>> mouse cursor to vo with vo+command+f5 and performed mouse click with 
>> vo+shift+spacebar. This opened a menu for me which gives you a choice of 
>> replying to sender or adding the sender's details to your address book. Hope 
>> this helps.
>> 
>> Simon
>> On 2 Aug 2011, at 20:15, carlene knight wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi:
>>> 
>>> I was going to personally reply to a list member but I can't figure out how 
>>> to highlight each header.  Before, I could open the message with return, 
>>> shift tab to headers, vo/right arrow to the email address so that I could 
>>> select it.  Now I can't seem to highlight any headers and I don't think 
>>> they're hidden as I can see the info, I just can't seem to place the cursor 
>>> on any particular heading.  It's been a heck of a long time since I 
>>> attempted this, and I am barely computer literate so it might be obvious, 
>>> and if so, I apologise.  I've got mail in classic view.  Thanks in advance.
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Re: Bookmarks bug in Safari?

[André Nuno Soares]

Hello Ricardo,

This just happened here.
What I noticed was that the VO cursor was, at the time, over a dynamic part of 
the page (ads, in this case).
So I pressed "Escape" to cancel the "Add bookmark" window that VO wasn't seeing 
and moved the VO cursor to a static part of the page and tried again, and this 
time everything worked properly.


HTH,
André

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> Hi folks,
> 
> I noticed when in Safari, when I press command D to save a webpage to 
> bookmarks, voiceover does not see the add to bookmarks window.  I have to 
> toggle voiceover on/off for voiceover to see it.  Are others having this 
> problem?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: Another mail question with Lion

[carlene knight]

Hello Simon, and thanks for the reply.  I tried doing this, just now, but the 
only header that shows is hide.  I can't get details or anything like that to 
come up as I used to.  I'll try it again but this is frustrating.  Thanks again

.On Aug 2, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I've just tried to do this. This is what I did.
> 
> I vo+left arrow to the message header area. I then interacted with it. Once 
> you interact, I moved with vo+right once and landed on "details" link. 
> Voiceover actually says here "link". I pressed vo+spacebar on this link. This 
> resulted in being able to see the senders address. I then routed my mouse 
> cursor to vo with vo+command+f5 and performed mouse click with 
> vo+shift+spacebar. This opened a menu for me which gives you a choice of 
> replying to sender or adding the sender's details to your address book. Hope 
> this helps.
> 
> Simon
> On 2 Aug 2011, at 20:15, carlene knight wrote:
> 
>> Hi:
>> 
>> I was going to personally reply to a list member but I can't figure out how 
>> to highlight each header.  Before, I could open the message with return, 
>> shift tab to headers, vo/right arrow to the email address so that I could 
>> select it.  Now I can't seem to highlight any headers and I don't think 
>> they're hidden as I can see the info, I just can't seem to place the cursor 
>> on any particular heading.  It's been a heck of a long time since I 
>> attempted this, and I am barely computer literate so it might be obvious, 
>> and if so, I apologize.  I've got mail in classic view.  Thanks in advance.
>> 
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Re: Activities.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Can we do this tomorrow?  I am based in the Uk.  My Skype is kawalgucukoglu  
write me off list to discuss times.
On 2 Aug 2011, at 21:39, John Panarese wrote:

> I am sitting here scratching my head.  I'm not sure what is going on 
> here.  If you want, please write me off list and I can try to troubleshoot 
> this via iChat or Skype.  I've set up four Activities and I have not 
> encountered any issues with voices or the like.
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John Panarese
> jpanar...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> Just done as you've suggested and now I have the same problem but also now 
>> if I press H for headings, even though I have selected navigation and quick 
>> nav nothing works.
>> On 2 Aug 2011, at 21:08, John Panarese wrote:
>> 
>>>OK, as a last resort, try completely removing that Activity and 
>>> carefully set it up again from scratch.  I just changed my Safari Activity 
>>> to using Daniel and it works as it should.
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John Panarese
>>> jpanar...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 3:57 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> 
 Activities is now doing my head in.  Selected new voice Emily and still 
 the activity does not work.
 On 2 Aug 2011, at 20:31, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
> I will try that and let you know.
> On 2 Aug 2011, at 20:16, John Panarese wrote:
> 
>> Have you tried using a different voice for the Activity just to see if 
>> the Daniel voice isn't the problem?  Again, just thinking out loud here. 
>>  I know when I used Daniel for an audio demo I did on the new voices, I 
>> initially had trouble getting him to stick in my activity.  I had to 
>> keep setting it the first few times before I got him to stick.
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John Panarese
>> jpanar...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>>> I did all of these things so now I do not understand.
>>> On 2 Aug 2011, at 20:00, John Panarese wrote:
>>> 
 OK, I'm coming in here late, so forgive me if these questions have 
 already been asked.  Did you check the box for voices in the 
 Activities pane in VO Utility.  Also, did you select the voice you 
 want to use for the activity in the Activities pane.  You must set 
 that there in order for the activity to use it.  
 
 Take Care
 
 John Panarese
 jpanar...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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> No Ricardo this is not working, meaning that I can select Daniel for 
> Safari but when I quit safari and go back to finder, and change the 
> voice back to Alex, open safari, Alex is then the default voice.
> On 2 Aug 2011, at 16:29, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hi Kawal,
>> 
>> I think changing the voice manually when you open safari should do 
>> it.  Go to Safari and press VO command Left Or  right arrow until 
>> you reach the voices category then, press VO command down arrow to 
>> select Daniel.  He should be the default voice for Safari now.
>> 
>> hth
>> 
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>> 
>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Teresa.
>> 
>> I did as you have described, but when I opened Safari after turning 
>> Voice Over Off and on, I expected to hear Daniel but Alex was still 
>> speaking so what is wrong?  I even restarted the Mac just in case.  
>> What do you and others think?
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2 Aug 2011, at 02:24 PM, Teresa Cochran 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello, Kawal,
>>> 
>>> I'll see if I can spell the steps out both thoroughly and concisely.
>>> 
>>> Open VO Utility and choose Activities from the categories list.  
>>> Then go to the add button and press it. Follow all of the controls 
>>> on the new activity screen. You must name your activity by choosing 
>>> a running application from the popup menu. There will be checkboxes 
>>> corresponding to each VO-utility category. Make sure all the 
>>> categories you want to adjust are checked. Then close the window 
>>> for the activity settings.
>>> 
>>> I will say that I used one of the Nuance voices in Safari and 
>>> sometimes it was not responsive, so I took that setting out of my 
>>> safari activity.
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> Teresa
>>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> 
 Hello All

Re: speech loss

[carlene knight]

Hi:

I just used the screen saver that dimmed the screen; the default one, but 
suspecting that, I turned it off to no avail.  I haven't had the problem today 
though as soon as I post this I probably will.  That's usually what happens.  
:)  I think that it was because the Log Me In program was not hidden.

On a different note, I discovered quite by accident that control+left arrow 
brings up the dashboard.  I couldn't figure out why it kept popping up.  Make 
sure you press that option key good and solidly.   :) F12 still works also.   I 
have a feeling it has to do with that spaces and applications thing.

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> Do you guys use screen savers?  Maybe this is the problem?  I'm just taking a 
> shot in the dark here.  After waking my MBP, speech comes back right away.  
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> 
> On Aug 1, 2011, at 5:21 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
> Same here, I constantly loose speech if the Mac Book is left.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 1 Aug 2011, at 05:59 AM, carlene knight  wrote:
> 
>> I've been losing speech often since upgrading to Lion.  If I leave my 
>> computer for an hour or two, I can pretty much guarantee that VO will not 
>> work.  It takes a while to get it toggled back on as well.  Were you using 
>> your computer  when speech  went away?
>> On Jul 31, 2011, at 3:18 AM, joseph wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Mark
>>> 
>>> Speech not restored  Cmd5, f10 did not help.
>>> 
>>> Best
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 31 Jul 2011, at 05:53 AM, "M. Taylor"  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Joe,
 
 You wrote: 
 " i lost speach for some reason on my iMack, how to get it back please?"
 
 Joe,
 Did you ever get speech restored back to your iMac?  If so, what was the
 problem?
 
 Mark
 
 
 
 
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gathering an imported audio book in Itunes

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

I have an audio book whose tracks have names like 0101-0.mp3 and go all the way 
through 0115_0.mp3 before switching to 02-1_0.mp3, obviously ripped off the 
disks but not given sensible names.  When I selected all five disks with 18 or 
so tracks each, Itunes imported them and then promptly mixed them in with all 
sorts of other "track 1," titles.  

The upshot of this is that I cannot, for the life of me, think of a search term 
which will let me gather all the various little tracks into one order that 
Itunes will play sequentially.  Is there any way to gather all of them together 
so I can play them?

Thanks.


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Re: discovery between vm fusion and mac?

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I knew  about your method Kliph a long time ago.

Not tried Fusion in Lion though.
On 2 Aug 2011, at 17:31, Kliph&Sharrie wrote:

> My keys are already remapped.  And like I said in my previous post, I'm able 
> to copy something to the clip board in windows, using mac commands, and when 
> I paste it in mac documents or email, it works. just fine
> Kliphton SR
> (twitter&Skype) kliphton72
> (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com
> (Marriage group)http://groups.google.com/group/committed-married-christians
> 
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 10:03 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The keys in Fusion won't remap as you expect unless you remap them in your 
>> virtual machine using Fusion. In other words, the right cmd key is also a 
>> Windows key, just as the left cmd key is; the right option key is also alt, 
>> just as the left option key is alt. You will want to remap these keys to 
>> other functions. I have my right cmd key mapped to the applications key and 
>> my right option key mapped to insert (to use this, VO has to be off, or the 
>> keyboard commander has to be off). I used sharp keys to do the remapping. 
>> Last place I saw it was
>> http://www.randyrants.com
>> 
>> --
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>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 4:07 AM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote:
>> 
 Okay, maybe some of you who use fusion on the mac already knew this, but I 
 didn't.  Upon reading the features and description of what fusion can do 
 before I installed it back in jun on my brand new 27 inch iMac, there was 
 a feature listed that you could copy and paste between the 2 systems.  I 
 had been trying to do this ever since I installed it, but couldn't figure 
 out how.  Today I did by pure accident.  I was using fusion with jaws, and 
 was trying to copy and paste something, but used the vo command instead of 
 jaws, well, I didn't hear jaws say applications since that is the command 
 key on the mac side, but the applications key on the windows side.  So I 
 alt tabbed to the mac side, opened up text edit, and what do you know, I 
 pushed command v to paste, and what I copied on the windows side was 
 there.  I know I was shocked, and maybe some already knew this, but 
 passing it along for those who don't.  HTH
 
 Kliphton SR
 (twitter&Skype) kliphton72
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 (Marriage group)http://groups.google.com/group/committed-married-christians
 
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Re: Safari

[Laura Bratton]

I am having the same problem. It has happened to me on all websites
where I have tried to enter text. Two of  the websites are Facebook
and caringbridge.org
Does anyone have ideas how to correct this?
Thank you,
laura Selena Sang wrote:
> Hey, I don't know if it's me with the problem with the new update to safari 
> and pages like Google, but I have been experiencing some problems with text 
> fields. When I go to google to search, voiceover does not read anything I'm 
> typing though it does type. After my search is complete and I want to search 
> again, sometimes it reads as I'm typing. I've noticed this with a few other 
> sites but can't think of them right now. Does anyone know if this is a google 
> thing or a voiceover thing or a safari thing?
>
> Selena

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Re: Just my thoughts regarding CCC Carbon Copy Cloner

[Joel Zimba]

Hi,

I used CCC when I switched to a larger disk before installing Lion.

It worked great.  I'm actting because folks have said that Super Duper 
is accessible.  I tried several times to get it to work for me, and I 
did  read one or two screen ssuccessfully, but in general, I found 
myself doing battle with the "busy demon" and generally having a problem 
getting anything out of the app.


I have tried it several times.  I wonder if there is a VO setting which 
I have wrong or something.


Joel



On 7/7/2011 1:10 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:

Thanks for this. I installed CCC a couple of weeks ago, but haven't actually 
tried to use it yet. I'm sure I'll be checking
it out before Lion happens; am especially hoping that using something like CCC 
will preserve my app preferences for Adium and
things of that nature. I have a little external hard drive that I just got for 
the mac. I've used it for time machine
backups; can I use that same drive with CCCas well? I still don't understand 
everything about the mac, so will probably still
ask stupid questions from time to time.
Missy


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Dan
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 12:12 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Just my thoughts regarding CCC Carbon Copy Cloner

Hello List,
JUst some thoughts on prepairing for Lion.
I set up CCC (Carbon Copy Cloner) and I really love it. It's extremely easy to 
use and it's 100% accessible for VO users.

Not only is it easy to make a complete clone, or a incremental backup, it's 
also really easy to boot from and use it on the
external drive.
The log details are well written andeasy to understand.
Restoring the original drive is also really easy to do.

CCC is produced on a shareware kind of concept and it uses a donation request 
field. This is available within CCC as well as
on the site.

http://www.bombich.com/

So, why am I posting this?
In light of Lion's upcoming launch, I just wanted to really be prepared. No 
matter what you use as a backup utility, CCC or
Super Duper or any other backup package, I strongly suggest that you cover all 
bases and be completely ready for the new
exciting move to Lion!


Dan

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Re: Activities.

[John Panarese]

 I am sitting here scratching my head.  I'm not sure what is going on here. 
 If you want, please write me off list and I can try to troubleshoot this via 
iChat or Skype.  I've set up four Activities and I have not encountered any 
issues with voices or the like.

Take Care

John Panarese
jpanar...@gmail.com



On Aug 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> Just done as you've suggested and now I have the same problem but also now if 
> I press H for headings, even though I have selected navigation and quick nav 
> nothing works.
> On 2 Aug 2011, at 21:08, John Panarese wrote:
> 
>> OK, as a last resort, try completely removing that Activity and 
>> carefully set it up again from scratch.  I just changed my Safari Activity 
>> to using Daniel and it works as it should.
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John Panarese
>> jpanar...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 3:57 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>>> Activities is now doing my head in.  Selected new voice Emily and still the 
>>> activity does not work.
>>> On 2 Aug 2011, at 20:31, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> 
 I will try that and let you know.
 On 2 Aug 2011, at 20:16, John Panarese wrote:
 
> Have you tried using a different voice for the Activity just to see if 
> the Daniel voice isn't the problem?  Again, just thinking out loud here.  
> I know when I used Daniel for an audio demo I did on the new voices, I 
> initially had trouble getting him to stick in my activity.  I had to keep 
> setting it the first few times before I got him to stick.
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John Panarese
> jpanar...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> I did all of these things so now I do not understand.
>> On 2 Aug 2011, at 20:00, John Panarese wrote:
>> 
>>> OK, I'm coming in here late, so forgive me if these questions have 
>>> already been asked.  Did you check the box for voices in the Activities 
>>> pane in VO Utility.  Also, did you select the voice you want to use for 
>>> the activity in the Activities pane.  You must set that there in order 
>>> for the activity to use it.  
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John Panarese
>>> jpanar...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> 
 No Ricardo this is not working, meaning that I can select Daniel for 
 Safari but when I quit safari and go back to finder, and change the 
 voice back to Alex, open safari, Alex is then the default voice.
 On 2 Aug 2011, at 16:29, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
> Hi Kawal,
> 
> I think changing the voice manually when you open safari should do 
> it.  Go to Safari and press VO command Left Or  right arrow until you 
> reach the voices category then, press VO command down arrow to select 
> Daniel.  He should be the default voice for Safari now.
> 
> hth
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
> www.mobileaccess.org
> 
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
> Hello Teresa.
> 
> I did as you have described, but when I opened Safari after turning 
> Voice Over Off and on, I expected to hear Daniel but Alex was still 
> speaking so what is wrong?  I even restarted the Mac just in case.  
> What do you and others think?
> 
> Kawal.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2 Aug 2011, at 02:24 PM, Teresa Cochran 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hello, Kawal,
>> 
>> I'll see if I can spell the steps out both thoroughly and concisely.
>> 
>> Open VO Utility and choose Activities from the categories list.  
>> Then go to the add button and press it. Follow all of the controls 
>> on the new activity screen. You must name your activity by choosing 
>> a running application from the popup menu. There will be checkboxes 
>> corresponding to each VO-utility category. Make sure all the 
>> categories you want to adjust are checked. Then close the window for 
>> the activity settings.
>> 
>> I will say that I used one of the Nuance voices in Safari and 
>> sometimes it was not responsive, so I took that setting out of my 
>> safari activity.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Teresa
>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello All.
>>> 
>>> I listened to Ricardo's podcast re activities and tried setting a 
>>> safari activity changing the voice too.
>>> 
>>> I turned Voice over off before loading Safari and turned Voice Over 
>>> back on.
>>> 
>>> The voice did 

Re: Activities.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Just done as you've suggested and now I have the same problem but also now if I 
press H for headings, even though I have selected navigation and quick nav 
nothing works.
On 2 Aug 2011, at 21:08, John Panarese wrote:

>  OK, as a last resort, try completely removing that Activity and 
> carefully set it up again from scratch.  I just changed my Safari Activity to 
> using Daniel and it works as it should.
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John Panarese
> jpanar...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 3:57 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> Activities is now doing my head in.  Selected new voice Emily and still the 
>> activity does not work.
>> On 2 Aug 2011, at 20:31, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>>> I will try that and let you know.
>>> On 2 Aug 2011, at 20:16, John Panarese wrote:
>>> 
  Have you tried using a different voice for the Activity just to see if 
 the Daniel voice isn't the problem?  Again, just thinking out loud here.  
 I know when I used Daniel for an audio demo I did on the new voices, I 
 initially had trouble getting him to stick in my activity.  I had to keep 
 setting it the first few times before I got him to stick.
 
 Take Care
 
 John Panarese
 jpanar...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Aug 2, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
> I did all of these things so now I do not understand.
> On 2 Aug 2011, at 20:00, John Panarese wrote:
> 
>> OK, I'm coming in here late, so forgive me if these questions have 
>> already been asked.  Did you check the box for voices in the Activities 
>> pane in VO Utility.  Also, did you select the voice you want to use for 
>> the activity in the Activities pane.  You must set that there in order 
>> for the activity to use it.  
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John Panarese
>> jpanar...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>>> No Ricardo this is not working, meaning that I can select Daniel for 
>>> Safari but when I quit safari and go back to finder, and change the 
>>> voice back to Alex, open safari, Alex is then the default voice.
>>> On 2 Aug 2011, at 16:29, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Kawal,
 
 I think changing the voice manually when you open safari should do it. 
  Go to Safari and press VO command Left Or  right arrow until you 
 reach the voices category then, press VO command down arrow to select 
 Daniel.  He should be the default voice for Safari now.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Aug 2, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 Hello Teresa.
 
 I did as you have described, but when I opened Safari after turning 
 Voice Over Off and on, I expected to hear Daniel but Alex was still 
 speaking so what is wrong?  I even restarted the Mac just in case.  
 What do you and others think?
 
 Kawal.
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 2 Aug 2011, at 02:24 PM, Teresa Cochran 
  wrote:
 
> Hello, Kawal,
> 
> I'll see if I can spell the steps out both thoroughly and concisely.
> 
> Open VO Utility and choose Activities from the categories list.  Then 
> go to the add button and press it. Follow all of the controls on the 
> new activity screen. You must name your activity by choosing a 
> running application from the popup menu. There will be checkboxes 
> corresponding to each VO-utility category. Make sure all the 
> categories you want to adjust are checked. Then close the window for 
> the activity settings.
> 
> I will say that I used one of the Nuance voices in Safari and 
> sometimes it was not responsive, so I took that setting out of my 
> safari activity.
> 
> HTH,
> Teresa
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> Hello All.
>> 
>> I listened to Ricardo's podcast re activities and tried setting a 
>> safari activity changing the voice too.
>> 
>> I turned Voice over off before loading Safari and turned Voice Over 
>> back on.
>> 
>> The voice did not change so I assume the activity did not work.
>> 
>> I wish to know what I am doing wrong as I followed Ricardo's 
>> instructions.
>> 
>> Thank you all for any replies I might get.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: seems that Drop Box is now utterly useless with Voice Over.

[Geoff Shang]

On Tue, 2 Aug 2011, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

Thing is, I still cannot access the prefs menu for Drop box.  In fact, 
this brings up the issue that Michael raised yesterday about the mouse 
and hidden items in the menu bar.


True, I forgot to say that this solves the context menu issue but 
(presumably) not the preferences one.  I've never known how to do it but I 
understand others have been able to in Snow Leopard but not in Lion.


I can see not being able to access the status area is going to become 
increasingly problematic, so Apple needs to solve this.


Geoff.

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Re: Another mail question with Lion

[Simon Cavendish]

Hello,

I've just tried to do this. This is what I did.

I vo+left arrow to the message header area. I then interacted with it. Once you 
interact, I moved with vo+right once and landed on "details" link. Voiceover 
actually says here "link". I pressed vo+spacebar on this link. This resulted in 
being able to see the senders address. I then routed my mouse cursor to vo with 
vo+command+f5 and performed mouse click with vo+shift+spacebar. This opened a 
menu for me which gives you a choice of replying to sender or adding the 
sender's details to your address book. Hope this helps.

Simon
On 2 Aug 2011, at 20:15, carlene knight wrote:

> Hi:
> 
> I was going to personally reply to a list member but I can't figure out how 
> to highlight each header.  Before, I could open the message with return, 
> shift tab to headers, vo/right arrow to the email address so that I could 
> select it.  Now I can't seem to highlight any headers and I don't think 
> they're hidden as I can see the info, I just can't seem to place the cursor 
> on any particular heading.  It's been a heck of a long time since I attempted 
> this, and I am barely computer literate so it might be obvious, and if so, I 
> apologize.  I've got mail in classic view.  Thanks in advance.
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Re: seems that Drop Box is now utterly useless with Voice Over.

[Geoff Shang]

On Tue, 2 Aug 2011, Geoff Shang wrote:

We were able to just copy the app into the applications folder as normal and 
then run.  Of course, we had to force-quit the running DB in order to do 
this.


Sorry, this is wrong.  I forgot that it doesn't show up in force-quit. 
You need to go into Activity Monitor in Utilities and find the Dropbox 
process and press Quit Process in the toolbar.


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Re: Activities.

[John Panarese]

  OK, as a last resort, try completely removing that Activity and carefully 
set it up again from scratch.  I just changed my Safari Activity to using 
Daniel and it works as it should.

Take Care

John Panarese
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On Aug 2, 2011, at 3:57 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> Activities is now doing my head in.  Selected new voice Emily and still the 
> activity does not work.
> On 2 Aug 2011, at 20:31, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> I will try that and let you know.
>> On 2 Aug 2011, at 20:16, John Panarese wrote:
>> 
>>>   Have you tried using a different voice for the Activity just to see if 
>>> the Daniel voice isn't the problem?  Again, just thinking out loud here.  I 
>>> know when I used Daniel for an audio demo I did on the new voices, I 
>>> initially had trouble getting him to stick in my activity.  I had to keep 
>>> setting it the first few times before I got him to stick.
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John Panarese
>>> jpanar...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> 
 I did all of these things so now I do not understand.
 On 2 Aug 2011, at 20:00, John Panarese wrote:
 
> OK, I'm coming in here late, so forgive me if these questions have 
> already been asked.  Did you check the box for voices in the Activities 
> pane in VO Utility.  Also, did you select the voice you want to use for 
> the activity in the Activities pane.  You must set that there in order 
> for the activity to use it.  
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John Panarese
> jpanar...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> No Ricardo this is not working, meaning that I can select Daniel for 
>> Safari but when I quit safari and go back to finder, and change the 
>> voice back to Alex, open safari, Alex is then the default voice.
>> On 2 Aug 2011, at 16:29, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Kawal,
>>> 
>>> I think changing the voice manually when you open safari should do it.  
>>> Go to Safari and press VO command Left Or  right arrow until you reach 
>>> the voices category then, press VO command down arrow to select Daniel. 
>>>  He should be the default voice for Safari now.
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>> 
>>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Teresa.
>>> 
>>> I did as you have described, but when I opened Safari after turning 
>>> Voice Over Off and on, I expected to hear Daniel but Alex was still 
>>> speaking so what is wrong?  I even restarted the Mac just in case.  
>>> What do you and others think?
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 2 Aug 2011, at 02:24 PM, Teresa Cochran  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hello, Kawal,
 
 I'll see if I can spell the steps out both thoroughly and concisely.
 
 Open VO Utility and choose Activities from the categories list.  Then 
 go to the add button and press it. Follow all of the controls on the 
 new activity screen. You must name your activity by choosing a running 
 application from the popup menu. There will be checkboxes 
 corresponding to each VO-utility category. Make sure all the 
 categories you want to adjust are checked. Then close the window for 
 the activity settings.
 
 I will say that I used one of the Nuance voices in Safari and 
 sometimes it was not responsive, so I took that setting out of my 
 safari activity.
 
 HTH,
 Teresa
 On Aug 2, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
> Hello All.
> 
> I listened to Ricardo's podcast re activities and tried setting a 
> safari activity changing the voice too.
> 
> I turned Voice over off before loading Safari and turned Voice Over 
> back on.
> 
> The voice did not change so I assume the activity did not work.
> 
> I wish to know what I am doing wrong as I followed Ricardo's 
> instructions.
> 
> Thank you all for any replies I might get.
> 
> Kawal.
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Activities.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Activities is now doing my head in.  Selected new voice Emily and still the 
activity does not work.
On 2 Aug 2011, at 20:31, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> I will try that and let you know.
> On 2 Aug 2011, at 20:16, John Panarese wrote:
> 
>>Have you tried using a different voice for the Activity just to see if 
>> the Daniel voice isn't the problem?  Again, just thinking out loud here.  I 
>> know when I used Daniel for an audio demo I did on the new voices, I 
>> initially had trouble getting him to stick in my activity.  I had to keep 
>> setting it the first few times before I got him to stick.
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John Panarese
>> jpanar...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>>> I did all of these things so now I do not understand.
>>> On 2 Aug 2011, at 20:00, John Panarese wrote:
>>> 
 OK, I'm coming in here late, so forgive me if these questions have already 
 been asked.  Did you check the box for voices in the Activities pane in VO 
 Utility.  Also, did you select the voice you want to use for the activity 
 in the Activities pane.  You must set that there in order for the activity 
 to use it.  
 
 Take Care
 
 John Panarese
 jpanar...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Aug 2, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
> No Ricardo this is not working, meaning that I can select Daniel for 
> Safari but when I quit safari and go back to finder, and change the voice 
> back to Alex, open safari, Alex is then the default voice.
> On 2 Aug 2011, at 16:29, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hi Kawal,
>> 
>> I think changing the voice manually when you open safari should do it.  
>> Go to Safari and press VO command Left Or  right arrow until you reach 
>> the voices category then, press VO command down arrow to select Daniel.  
>> He should be the default voice for Safari now.
>> 
>> hth
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>> www.mobileaccess.org
>> 
>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Teresa.
>> 
>> I did as you have described, but when I opened Safari after turning 
>> Voice Over Off and on, I expected to hear Daniel but Alex was still 
>> speaking so what is wrong?  I even restarted the Mac just in case.  What 
>> do you and others think?
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2 Aug 2011, at 02:24 PM, Teresa Cochran  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello, Kawal,
>>> 
>>> I'll see if I can spell the steps out both thoroughly and concisely.
>>> 
>>> Open VO Utility and choose Activities from the categories list.  Then 
>>> go to the add button and press it. Follow all of the controls on the 
>>> new activity screen. You must name your activity by choosing a running 
>>> application from the popup menu. There will be checkboxes corresponding 
>>> to each VO-utility category. Make sure all the categories you want to 
>>> adjust are checked. Then close the window for the activity settings.
>>> 
>>> I will say that I used one of the Nuance voices in Safari and sometimes 
>>> it was not responsive, so I took that setting out of my safari activity.
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> Teresa
>>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> 
 Hello All.
 
 I listened to Ricardo's podcast re activities and tried setting a 
 safari activity changing the voice too.
 
 I turned Voice over off before loading Safari and turned Voice Over 
 back on.
 
 The voice did not change so I assume the activity did not work.
 
 I wish to know what I am doing wrong as I followed Ricardo's 
 instructions.
 
 Thank you all for any replies I might get.
 
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Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] Re: seems that Drop Box is now utterly useless with Voice Over.

[Peggy Fleischer]

And it works! It wasn't easy to find that beta but I got  it and installed it 
and it's working fine.

Thank you so much. 
On Aug 2, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Found it.
> 
> The link to it is:
> http://forums.dropbox.com/topic.php?id=41644
> This will start the download.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
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> 
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> 
> 
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 2:24 PM, John Panarese wrote:
> 
>>   It came out a few days after Lion's release.  Unfortunately, I can't find 
>> the version number.  I had to get rid of the previous version and then 
>> install the new one using the same instructions that were posted on 
>> Maccessibility.net. 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John Panarese
>> jpanar...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> 
>>> Okay.  So, where is it?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>> 
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 2:16 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>> 
  There is a new beta that works with Lion.  You might have to grab it and 
 then reinstall it.
 
 Take Care
 
 John Panarese
 jpanar...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Aug 2, 2011, at 3:13 PM, May McDonald wrote:
 
> I use drop box with no problem with voiceover.
> 
> May and Prince Noah
> On 2011-08-02, at 3:03 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> To the member who noticed an issue with not seeing the Drop Box submenu, 
>> I can verify this fact.  It would appear that we must either:
>> 
>> 1.  Make the people at Drop Box aware of this issue; and, maybe they 
>> will listen or not.
>> 
>> 2.  Report this to Apple.  Most likely, they'll say it's on the 
>> developers to solve this.
>> 
>> 3.  Abandon Drop Box and find another more accessible service.
>> 
>> 4.  Go back to a web interface service.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
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Re: File associations

[Chris Blouch]

If you select the document file and do a Get Info (Command-I) you will 
find a section pretty far down called Open With. This could be a 
collapsed disclosure triangle. If you expand it (spacebar) you'll find a 
pop up button to choose which app you want that document to be opened 
with. A little further on you'll find a Change All button. Action that 
(space) and choose Continue from the "Are you sure..." dialog. That will 
change the association of all files of that type to now use the 
application you have chosen unless something else changes it elsewhere. 
This generally works with any document although I've had trouble with 
some. For example, I'd like to have .html files open in a text editor 
but they keep getting changed to open in Safari. Not sure why or how to 
fix it. I suspect Safari might be making that change without my asking 
it and it's possible Acrobat might also try to re-take control of PDF 
files sometime down the road.


Hope this helps.

CB

On 8/2/11 3:32 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote:

Guys,
What is the equivalent of file associations in the Mac world.
Currently, all PDFs open in an inaccessible version of Acrobat
Reader.  I can read things in Preview, but don't know how to make all
PDFs open in Preview instead of Acrobat.  How do I do this?
Thanks,
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Re: seems that Drop Box is now utterly useless with Voice Over.

[Ray Foret Jr]

Thing is, I still cannot access the prefs menu for Drop box.  In fact, this 
brings up the issue that Michael raised yesterday about the mouse and hidden 
items in the menu bar.


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On Aug 2, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Geoff Shang wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> The new Dropbox betas solve this problem.  We've been using 1.2.16 and it 
> seems to work fine.
> 
> Note that 1.2.18 is out now but we've not tried it.
> 
> The thread on the Dropbox Beta forums about this release can be read at 
> http://forums.dropbox.com/topic.php?id=42146
> 
> It's worth noting that they recommend to restart after installing, so you 
> might want to do that.
> 
> If you want to just download it, click here: 
> http://dl-web.dropbox.com/u/17/Dropbox%201.2.18.dmg
> 
> In the event that it eats yor children and you want a beta someone can vouch 
> for, you can get 1.2.16 at http://dl-web.dropbox.com/u/17/Dropbox%201.2.16.dmg
> 
> We were able to just copy the app into the applications folder as normal and 
> then run.  Of course, we had to force-quit the running DB in order to do 
> this.  Fortunately Dropbox was smart enough to figure out that it'd already 
> been installed and it just ran like it should.
> 
> Geoff.
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Re: [Bulk] Re: seems that Drop Box is now utterly useless with Voice Over.

[May McDonald]

Sorry, got an emergency phone call. Meant to send another message. Ignore my 
message, I remembered after I sent mine that this had to do with LIon. I don't 
use that yet. I've thought of trying it but haven't made the switch. 

Sorry for the confusion.

May and Prince Noah
On 2011-08-02, at 3:17 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Are you using Lion?  IF so, how do you access the Drop Box submenu now?  I 
> can no longer be done via the short cut menu.  I thought perhaps I might find 
> it in the sidebar or tool bar; but, no luck.
> 
> Please, remember, the member and I are reffering to Drop box under Lion, not 
> SL.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 2:13 PM, May McDonald wrote:
> 
>> I use drop box with no problem with voiceover.
>> 
>> May and Prince Noah
>> On 2011-08-02, at 3:03 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> 
>>> To the member who noticed an issue with not seeing the Drop Box submenu, I 
>>> can verify this fact.  It would appear that we must either:
>>> 
>>> 1.  Make the people at Drop Box aware of this issue; and, maybe they will 
>>> listen or not.
>>> 
>>> 2.  Report this to Apple.  Most likely, they'll say it's on the developers 
>>> to solve this.
>>> 
>>> 3.  Abandon Drop Box and find another more accessible service.
>>> 
>>> 4.  Go back to a web interface service.
>>> 
>>> Thoughts?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>> 
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>> 
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
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Re: seems that Drop Box is now utterly useless with Voice Over.

[Geoff Shang]

Hi,

The new Dropbox betas solve this problem.  We've been using 1.2.16 and it 
seems to work fine.


Note that 1.2.18 is out now but we've not tried it.

The thread on the Dropbox Beta forums about this release can be read at 
http://forums.dropbox.com/topic.php?id=42146


It's worth noting that they recommend to restart after installing, so you 
might want to do that.


If you want to just download it, click here: 
http://dl-web.dropbox.com/u/17/Dropbox%201.2.18.dmg


In the event that it eats yor children and you want a beta someone can 
vouch for, you can get 1.2.16 at 
http://dl-web.dropbox.com/u/17/Dropbox%201.2.16.dmg


We were able to just copy the app into the applications folder as normal 
and then run.  Of course, we had to force-quit the running DB in order to 
do this.  Fortunately Dropbox was smart enough to figure out that it'd 
already been installed and it just ran like it should.


Geoff.

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Re: [Bulk] Re: seems that Drop Box is now utterly useless with Voice Over.

[Naama Shang]

Hi,
The beta version will have the context menu back.
Naama
On 2 Aug 2011, at 22:17, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Are you using Lion?  IF so, how do you access the Drop Box submenu now?  I 
> can no longer be done via the short cut menu.  I thought perhaps I might find 
> it in the sidebar or tool bar; but, no luck.
> 
> Please, remember, the member and I are reffering to Drop box under Lion, not 
> SL.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 2:13 PM, May McDonald wrote:
> 
>> I use drop box with no problem with voiceover.
>> 
>> May and Prince Noah
>> On 2011-08-02, at 3:03 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> 
>>> To the member who noticed an issue with not seeing the Drop Box submenu, I 
>>> can verify this fact.  It would appear that we must either:
>>> 
>>> 1.  Make the people at Drop Box aware of this issue; and, maybe they will 
>>> listen or not.
>>> 
>>> 2.  Report this to Apple.  Most likely, they'll say it's on the developers 
>>> to solve this.
>>> 
>>> 3.  Abandon Drop Box and find another more accessible service.
>>> 
>>> 4.  Go back to a web interface service.
>>> 
>>> Thoughts?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>> 
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>> 
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>> 
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>>> 
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Re: speech loss

[carlene knight]

I am glad you figured it out.  I've yet to reset my pram, though I am afraid 
I'll let up on the keys a split second too late or something and screw things 
up.  I think that might help my problem though.
On Aug 1, 2011, at 6:08 AM, joseph wrote:

> hi
> 
> finally with a help of a sighted friend i managed to get speech back.  
> presumably, i must have selected sound flower by accident in both system 
> preferences and voiceover utilities.
> 
> best
> On 1 Aug 2011, at 05:59, carlene knight wrote:
> 
>> I've been losing speech often since upgrading to Lion.  If I leave my 
>> computer for an hour or two, I can pretty much guarantee that VO will not 
>> work.  It takes a while to get it toggled back on as well.  Were you using 
>> your computer  when speech  went away?
>> On Jul 31, 2011, at 3:18 AM, joseph wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Mark
>>> 
>>> Speech not restored  Cmd5, f10 did not help.
>>> 
>>> Best
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 31 Jul 2011, at 05:53 AM, "M. Taylor"  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Joe,
 
 You wrote: 
 " i lost speach for some reason on my iMack, how to get it back please?"
 
 Joe,
 Did you ever get speech restored back to your iMac?  If so, what was the
 problem?
 
 Mark
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: seems that Drop Box is now utterly useless with Voice Over.

[Ray Foret Jr]

Found it.

The link to it is:
http://forums.dropbox.com/topic.php?id=41644
This will start the download.

HTH.


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On Aug 2, 2011, at 2:24 PM, John Panarese wrote:

>   It came out a few days after Lion's release.  Unfortunately, I can't find 
> the version number.  I had to get rid of the previous version and then 
> install the new one using the same instructions that were posted on 
> Maccessibility.net. 
> Take Care
> 
> John Panarese
> jpanar...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> Okay.  So, where is it?
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> Facebook:
>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 2:16 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>> 
>>>  There is a new beta that works with Lion.  You might have to grab it and 
>>> then reinstall it.
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John Panarese
>>> jpanar...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 3:13 PM, May McDonald wrote:
>>> 
 I use drop box with no problem with voiceover.
 
 May and Prince Noah
 On 2011-08-02, at 3:03 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
> To the member who noticed an issue with not seeing the Drop Box submenu, 
> I can verify this fact.  It would appear that we must either:
> 
> 1.  Make the people at Drop Box aware of this issue; and, maybe they will 
> listen or not.
> 
> 2.  Report this to Apple.  Most likely, they'll say it's on the 
> developers to solve this.
> 
> 3.  Abandon Drop Box and find another more accessible service.
> 
> 4.  Go back to a web interface service.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
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File associations

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,
What is the equivalent of file associations in the Mac world.
Currently, all PDFs open in an inaccessible version of Acrobat
Reader.  I can read things in Preview, but don't know how to make all
PDFs open in Preview instead of Acrobat.  How do I do this?
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Re: Lion Mail, Conversations view and interacting

[Neil Barnfather - TalkNav]

Teresa,

I'm sure that this works fine for any sort of mailbox management issue, but the 
issue to which I am referring to is a very specific one relating to interacting 
with columns.

thanks.
On 2 Aug 2011, at 14:29, Teresa Cochran wrote:

I find that using the favorites bar in combination with quick-keys associated 
with it makes the new layout very easy to navigate. Once you create aliases in 
the favorites bar by simply dragging the mailboxes to it, you have the 
keystrokes command-1, command-2, command-3, etc. depending on the order the 
mailboxes are placed. Drag and drop is a bit tricky and takes a little 
coddling, but once everything's in place, it's a very efficient setup.

HTH,
Teresa
On Aug 2, 2011, at 4:05 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:

> it does seem to work that way in classic view, but my opinion is that 
> switching back to classic view is ultimately self defeating, as eventually 
> classic view will go, and this will not be in Lion sure, but perhaps a 
> revision or so down the line, at which time, learning all the changes from 
> Snow Leopard to that version of OSx will be much harder, so although it hurts 
> right now, I'd rather get to grips with the new view now.
> 
> so need to find a way of doing this.
> On 2 Aug 2011, at 10:58, Chris Moore wrote:
> 
> Yeah I must admit, I used to browse this way too.  I have not tried it in 
> classic mode, so have you tried to see if you can still do it that way?
> On 2 Aug 2011, at 10:53, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> A hopefully quick question, I used to have my mail in Snow Leopard set up so 
>> that my forums mail, which has its own mailbox and e-mail address, would be 
>> shown in a threaded view, I would arrow down my mailbox list to the Forums 
>> mailbox, stop interacting and arrow right to the messages view, then 
>> interact with it, then again interact with the columns and arrow over to the 
>> subject view.
>> 
>> this meant that for me I had a quick and easy way of deleting entire threads 
>> I was not interested in, or opening entire threads that I was.
>> 
>> It now seems though with Lion Mail, that when using the new view, and with 
>> conversations enabled, that one cannot interact with the columns within the 
>> messages view, making this impossible to achieve.
>> 
>> put simply, I do not need to hear the info about author, from, date etc, 
>> just the subject line.
>> 
>> thanks for any pointers or ideas.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
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>> 
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Re: Activities.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I will try that and let you know.
On 2 Aug 2011, at 20:16, John Panarese wrote:

> Have you tried using a different voice for the Activity just to see if 
> the Daniel voice isn't the problem?  Again, just thinking out loud here.  I 
> know when I used Daniel for an audio demo I did on the new voices, I 
> initially had trouble getting him to stick in my activity.  I had to keep 
> setting it the first few times before I got him to stick.
> 
> Take Care
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> I did all of these things so now I do not understand.
>> On 2 Aug 2011, at 20:00, John Panarese wrote:
>> 
>>> OK, I'm coming in here late, so forgive me if these questions have already 
>>> been asked.  Did you check the box for voices in the Activities pane in VO 
>>> Utility.  Also, did you select the voice you want to use for the activity 
>>> in the Activities pane.  You must set that there in order for the activity 
>>> to use it.  
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John Panarese
>>> jpanar...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> 
 No Ricardo this is not working, meaning that I can select Daniel for 
 Safari but when I quit safari and go back to finder, and change the voice 
 back to Alex, open safari, Alex is then the default voice.
 On 2 Aug 2011, at 16:29, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
> Hi Kawal,
> 
> I think changing the voice manually when you open safari should do it.  
> Go to Safari and press VO command Left Or  right arrow until you reach 
> the voices category then, press VO command down arrow to select Daniel.  
> He should be the default voice for Safari now.
> 
> hth
> 
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> On Aug 2, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
> Hello Teresa.
> 
> I did as you have described, but when I opened Safari after turning Voice 
> Over Off and on, I expected to hear Daniel but Alex was still speaking so 
> what is wrong?  I even restarted the Mac just in case.  What do you and 
> others think?
> 
> Kawal.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2 Aug 2011, at 02:24 PM, Teresa Cochran  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello, Kawal,
>> 
>> I'll see if I can spell the steps out both thoroughly and concisely.
>> 
>> Open VO Utility and choose Activities from the categories list.  Then go 
>> to the add button and press it. Follow all of the controls on the new 
>> activity screen. You must name your activity by choosing a running 
>> application from the popup menu. There will be checkboxes corresponding 
>> to each VO-utility category. Make sure all the categories you want to 
>> adjust are checked. Then close the window for the activity settings.
>> 
>> I will say that I used one of the Nuance voices in Safari and sometimes 
>> it was not responsive, so I took that setting out of my safari activity.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Teresa
>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello All.
>>> 
>>> I listened to Ricardo's podcast re activities and tried setting a 
>>> safari activity changing the voice too.
>>> 
>>> I turned Voice over off before loading Safari and turned Voice Over 
>>> back on.
>>> 
>>> The voice did not change so I assume the activity did not work.
>>> 
>>> I wish to know what I am doing wrong as I followed Ricardo's 
>>> instructions.
>>> 
>>> Thank you all for any replies I might get.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Bulk] Re: seems that Drop Box is now utterly useless with Voice Over.

[John Panarese]

   It came out a few days after Lion's release.  Unfortunately, I can't find 
the version number.  I had to get rid of the previous version and then install 
the new one using the same instructions that were posted on Maccessibility.net. 
Take Care

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On Aug 2, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Okay.  So, where is it?
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
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> 
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> On Aug 2, 2011, at 2:16 PM, John Panarese wrote:
> 
>>   There is a new beta that works with Lion.  You might have to grab it and 
>> then reinstall it.
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John Panarese
>> jpanar...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 3:13 PM, May McDonald wrote:
>> 
>>> I use drop box with no problem with voiceover.
>>> 
>>> May and Prince Noah
>>> On 2011-08-02, at 3:03 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>> 
 To the member who noticed an issue with not seeing the Drop Box submenu, I 
 can verify this fact.  It would appear that we must either:
 
 1.  Make the people at Drop Box aware of this issue; and, maybe they will 
 listen or not.
 
 2.  Report this to Apple.  Most likely, they'll say it's on the developers 
 to solve this.
 
 3.  Abandon Drop Box and find another more accessible service.
 
 4.  Go back to a web interface service.
 
 Thoughts?
 
 
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Re: [Bulk] Re: seems that Drop Box is now utterly useless with Voice Over.

[Ray Foret Jr]

Okay.  So, where is it?


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On Aug 2, 2011, at 2:16 PM, John Panarese wrote:

>There is a new beta that works with Lion.  You might have to grab it and 
> then reinstall it.
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John Panarese
> jpanar...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 3:13 PM, May McDonald wrote:
> 
>> I use drop box with no problem with voiceover.
>> 
>> May and Prince Noah
>> On 2011-08-02, at 3:03 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> 
>>> To the member who noticed an issue with not seeing the Drop Box submenu, I 
>>> can verify this fact.  It would appear that we must either:
>>> 
>>> 1.  Make the people at Drop Box aware of this issue; and, maybe they will 
>>> listen or not.
>>> 
>>> 2.  Report this to Apple.  Most likely, they'll say it's on the developers 
>>> to solve this.
>>> 
>>> 3.  Abandon Drop Box and find another more accessible service.
>>> 
>>> 4.  Go back to a web interface service.
>>> 
>>> Thoughts?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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Re: [Bulk] Re: seems that Drop Box is now utterly useless with Voice Over.

[Ray Foret Jr]

Are you using Lion?  IF so, how do you access the Drop Box submenu now?  I can 
no longer be done via the short cut menu.  I thought perhaps I might find it in 
the sidebar or tool bar; but, no luck.

Please, remember, the member and I are reffering to Drop box under Lion, not SL.


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On Aug 2, 2011, at 2:13 PM, May McDonald wrote:

> I use drop box with no problem with voiceover.
> 
> May and Prince Noah
> On 2011-08-02, at 3:03 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> To the member who noticed an issue with not seeing the Drop Box submenu, I 
>> can verify this fact.  It would appear that we must either:
>> 
>> 1.  Make the people at Drop Box aware of this issue; and, maybe they will 
>> listen or not.
>> 
>> 2.  Report this to Apple.  Most likely, they'll say it's on the developers 
>> to solve this.
>> 
>> 3.  Abandon Drop Box and find another more accessible service.
>> 
>> 4.  Go back to a web interface service.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
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Re: seems that Drop Box is now utterly useless with Voice Over.

[John Panarese]

There is a new beta that works with Lion.  You might have to grab it and 
then reinstall it.

Take Care

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On Aug 2, 2011, at 3:13 PM, May McDonald wrote:

> I use drop box with no problem with voiceover.
> 
> May and Prince Noah
> On 2011-08-02, at 3:03 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> To the member who noticed an issue with not seeing the Drop Box submenu, I 
>> can verify this fact.  It would appear that we must either:
>> 
>> 1.  Make the people at Drop Box aware of this issue; and, maybe they will 
>> listen or not.
>> 
>> 2.  Report this to Apple.  Most likely, they'll say it's on the developers 
>> to solve this.
>> 
>> 3.  Abandon Drop Box and find another more accessible service.
>> 
>> 4.  Go back to a web interface service.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
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Re: seems that Drop Box is now utterly useless with Voice Over.

[Peggy Fleischer]

I will certainly file a trouble report  with dropbox. Meanwhile, Do you know 
how to copy a public link from the web interface? 

On Aug 2, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> To the member who noticed an issue with not seeing the Drop Box submenu, I 
> can verify this fact.  It would appear that we must either:
> 
> 1.  Make the people at Drop Box aware of this issue; and, maybe they will 
> listen or not.
> 
> 2.  Report this to Apple.  Most likely, they'll say it's on the developers to 
> solve this.
> 
> 3.  Abandon Drop Box and find another more accessible service.
> 
> 4.  Go back to a web interface service.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
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Re: Activities.

[John Panarese]

 Have you tried using a different voice for the Activity just to see if the 
Daniel voice isn't the problem?  Again, just thinking out loud here.  I know 
when I used Daniel for an audio demo I did on the new voices, I initially had 
trouble getting him to stick in my activity.  I had to keep setting it the 
first few times before I got him to stick.

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On Aug 2, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> I did all of these things so now I do not understand.
> On 2 Aug 2011, at 20:00, John Panarese wrote:
> 
>>  OK, I'm coming in here late, so forgive me if these questions have already 
>> been asked.  Did you check the box for voices in the Activities pane in VO 
>> Utility.  Also, did you select the voice you want to use for the activity in 
>> the Activities pane.  You must set that there in order for the activity to 
>> use it.  
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John Panarese
>> jpanar...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>>> No Ricardo this is not working, meaning that I can select Daniel for Safari 
>>> but when I quit safari and go back to finder, and change the voice back to 
>>> Alex, open safari, Alex is then the default voice.
>>> On 2 Aug 2011, at 16:29, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Kawal,
 
 I think changing the voice manually when you open safari should do it.  Go 
 to Safari and press VO command Left Or  right arrow until you reach the 
 voices category then, press VO command down arrow to select Daniel.  He 
 should be the default voice for Safari now.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Aug 2, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 Hello Teresa.
 
 I did as you have described, but when I opened Safari after turning Voice 
 Over Off and on, I expected to hear Daniel but Alex was still speaking so 
 what is wrong?  I even restarted the Mac just in case.  What do you and 
 others think?
 
 Kawal.
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 2 Aug 2011, at 02:24 PM, Teresa Cochran  
 wrote:
 
> Hello, Kawal,
> 
> I'll see if I can spell the steps out both thoroughly and concisely.
> 
> Open VO Utility and choose Activities from the categories list.  Then go 
> to the add button and press it. Follow all of the controls on the new 
> activity screen. You must name your activity by choosing a running 
> application from the popup menu. There will be checkboxes corresponding 
> to each VO-utility category. Make sure all the categories you want to 
> adjust are checked. Then close the window for the activity settings.
> 
> I will say that I used one of the Nuance voices in Safari and sometimes 
> it was not responsive, so I took that setting out of my safari activity.
> 
> HTH,
> Teresa
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> Hello All.
>> 
>> I listened to Ricardo's podcast re activities and tried setting a safari 
>> activity changing the voice too.
>> 
>> I turned Voice over off before loading Safari and turned Voice Over back 
>> on.
>> 
>> The voice did not change so I assume the activity did not work.
>> 
>> I wish to know what I am doing wrong as I followed Ricardo's 
>> instructions.
>> 
>> Thank you all for any replies I might get.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Another mail question with Lion

[carlene knight]

Hi:

I was going to personally reply to a list member but I can't figure out how to 
highlight each header.  Before, I could open the message with return, shift tab 
to headers, vo/right arrow to the email address so that I could select it.  Now 
I can't seem to highlight any headers and I don't think they're hidden as I can 
see the info, I just can't seem to place the cursor on any particular heading.  
It's been a heck of a long time since I attempted this, and I am barely 
computer literate so it might be obvious, and if so, I apologize.  I've got 
mail in classic view.  Thanks in advance.

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Re: seems that Drop Box is now utterly useless with Voice Over.

[May McDonald]

I use drop box with no problem with voiceover.

May and Prince Noah
On 2011-08-02, at 3:03 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> To the member who noticed an issue with not seeing the Drop Box submenu, I 
> can verify this fact.  It would appear that we must either:
> 
> 1.  Make the people at Drop Box aware of this issue; and, maybe they will 
> listen or not.
> 
> 2.  Report this to Apple.  Most likely, they'll say it's on the developers to 
> solve this.
> 
> 3.  Abandon Drop Box and find another more accessible service.
> 
> 4.  Go back to a web interface service.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
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seems that Drop Box is now utterly useless with Voice Over.

[Ray Foret Jr]

To the member who noticed an issue with not seeing the Drop Box submenu, I can 
verify this fact.  It would appear that we must either:

1.  Make the people at Drop Box aware of this issue; and, maybe they will 
listen or not.

2.  Report this to Apple.  Most likely, they'll say it's on the developers to 
solve this.

3.  Abandon Drop Box and find another more accessible service.

4.  Go back to a web interface service.

Thoughts?


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Re: Activities.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I did all of these things so now I do not understand.
On 2 Aug 2011, at 20:00, John Panarese wrote:

>   OK, I'm coming in here late, so forgive me if these questions have already 
> been asked.  Did you check the box for voices in the Activities pane in VO 
> Utility.  Also, did you select the voice you want to use for the activity in 
> the Activities pane.  You must set that there in order for the activity to 
> use it.  
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John Panarese
> jpanar...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> No Ricardo this is not working, meaning that I can select Daniel for Safari 
>> but when I quit safari and go back to finder, and change the voice back to 
>> Alex, open safari, Alex is then the default voice.
>> On 2 Aug 2011, at 16:29, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Kawal,
>>> 
>>> I think changing the voice manually when you open safari should do it.  Go 
>>> to Safari and press VO command Left Or  right arrow until you reach the 
>>> voices category then, press VO command down arrow to select Daniel.  He 
>>> should be the default voice for Safari now.
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>> 
>>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Teresa.
>>> 
>>> I did as you have described, but when I opened Safari after turning Voice 
>>> Over Off and on, I expected to hear Daniel but Alex was still speaking so 
>>> what is wrong?  I even restarted the Mac just in case.  What do you and 
>>> others think?
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 2 Aug 2011, at 02:24 PM, Teresa Cochran  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hello, Kawal,
 
 I'll see if I can spell the steps out both thoroughly and concisely.
 
 Open VO Utility and choose Activities from the categories list.  Then go 
 to the add button and press it. Follow all of the controls on the new 
 activity screen. You must name your activity by choosing a running 
 application from the popup menu. There will be checkboxes corresponding to 
 each VO-utility category. Make sure all the categories you want to adjust 
 are checked. Then close the window for the activity settings.
 
 I will say that I used one of the Nuance voices in Safari and sometimes it 
 was not responsive, so I took that setting out of my safari activity.
 
 HTH,
 Teresa
 On Aug 2, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
> Hello All.
> 
> I listened to Ricardo's podcast re activities and tried setting a safari 
> activity changing the voice too.
> 
> I turned Voice over off before loading Safari and turned Voice Over back 
> on.
> 
> The voice did not change so I assume the activity did not work.
> 
> I wish to know what I am doing wrong as I followed Ricardo's instructions.
> 
> Thank you all for any replies I might get.
> 
> Kawal.
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: addictive drums vst in garage band?

[Chris Moore]

There are some nice drum kits included in the Apple Jam Packs for Garage Band.
On 2 Aug 2011, at 19:45, Cody wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I am a musician and one of the best VST's I've found is called addictive 
> drums. I have used it on windows under vst host and it works, but I am 
> wondering how this would work under garage band. And if no one has tried 
> this, what are some high quality, realistic drum kits that i can customize 
> extensively for use with garage band?
> 
> Also if someone like Ricardo or Mike could Skype me and help me out with 
> editing in realtime that'd be awesome…sort of like an in person tutorial…for 
> basic editing tips and tricks…
> 
> Cody
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Re: Activities.

[John Panarese]

   OK, I'm coming in here late, so forgive me if these questions have already 
been asked.  Did you check the box for voices in the Activities pane in VO 
Utility.  Also, did you select the voice you want to use for the activity in 
the Activities pane.  You must set that there in order for the activity to use 
it.  

Take Care

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On Aug 2, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> No Ricardo this is not working, meaning that I can select Daniel for Safari 
> but when I quit safari and go back to finder, and change the voice back to 
> Alex, open safari, Alex is then the default voice.
> On 2 Aug 2011, at 16:29, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hi Kawal,
>> 
>> I think changing the voice manually when you open safari should do it.  Go 
>> to Safari and press VO command Left Or  right arrow until you reach the 
>> voices category then, press VO command down arrow to select Daniel.  He 
>> should be the default voice for Safari now.
>> 
>> hth
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>> www.mobileaccess.org
>> 
>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Teresa.
>> 
>> I did as you have described, but when I opened Safari after turning Voice 
>> Over Off and on, I expected to hear Daniel but Alex was still speaking so 
>> what is wrong?  I even restarted the Mac just in case.  What do you and 
>> others think?
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2 Aug 2011, at 02:24 PM, Teresa Cochran  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello, Kawal,
>>> 
>>> I'll see if I can spell the steps out both thoroughly and concisely.
>>> 
>>> Open VO Utility and choose Activities from the categories list.  Then go to 
>>> the add button and press it. Follow all of the controls on the new activity 
>>> screen. You must name your activity by choosing a running application from 
>>> the popup menu. There will be checkboxes corresponding to each VO-utility 
>>> category. Make sure all the categories you want to adjust are checked. Then 
>>> close the window for the activity settings.
>>> 
>>> I will say that I used one of the Nuance voices in Safari and sometimes it 
>>> was not responsive, so I took that setting out of my safari activity.
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> Teresa
>>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> 
 Hello All.
 
 I listened to Ricardo's podcast re activities and tried setting a safari 
 activity changing the voice too.
 
 I turned Voice over off before loading Safari and turned Voice Over back 
 on.
 
 The voice did not change so I assume the activity did not work.
 
 I wish to know what I am doing wrong as I followed Ricardo's instructions.
 
 Thank you all for any replies I might get.
 
 Kawal.
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Re: Activities.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

No Ricardo this is not working, meaning that I can select Daniel for Safari but 
when I quit safari and go back to finder, and change the voice back to Alex, 
open safari, Alex is then the default voice.
On 2 Aug 2011, at 16:29, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi Kawal,
> 
> I think changing the voice manually when you open safari should do it.  Go to 
> Safari and press VO command Left Or  right arrow until you reach the voices 
> category then, press VO command down arrow to select Daniel.  He should be 
> the default voice for Safari now.
> 
> hth
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
> www.mobileaccess.org
> 
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
> Hello Teresa.
> 
> I did as you have described, but when I opened Safari after turning Voice 
> Over Off and on, I expected to hear Daniel but Alex was still speaking so 
> what is wrong?  I even restarted the Mac just in case.  What do you and 
> others think?
> 
> Kawal.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2 Aug 2011, at 02:24 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
>> Hello, Kawal,
>> 
>> I'll see if I can spell the steps out both thoroughly and concisely.
>> 
>> Open VO Utility and choose Activities from the categories list.  Then go to 
>> the add button and press it. Follow all of the controls on the new activity 
>> screen. You must name your activity by choosing a running application from 
>> the popup menu. There will be checkboxes corresponding to each VO-utility 
>> category. Make sure all the categories you want to adjust are checked. Then 
>> close the window for the activity settings.
>> 
>> I will say that I used one of the Nuance voices in Safari and sometimes it 
>> was not responsive, so I took that setting out of my safari activity.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Teresa
>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello All.
>>> 
>>> I listened to Ricardo's podcast re activities and tried setting a safari 
>>> activity changing the voice too.
>>> 
>>> I turned Voice over off before loading Safari and turned Voice Over back on.
>>> 
>>> The voice did not change so I assume the activity did not work.
>>> 
>>> I wish to know what I am doing wrong as I followed Ricardo's instructions.
>>> 
>>> Thank you all for any replies I might get.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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addictive drums vst in garage band?

[Cody]

Hi all,

I am a musician and one of the best VST's I've found is called addictive drums. 
I have used it on windows under vst host and it works, but I am wondering how 
this would work under garage band. And if no one has tried this, what are some 
high quality, realistic drum kits that i can customize extensively for use with 
garage band?

Also if someone like Ricardo or Mike could Skype me and help me out with 
editing in realtime that'd be awesome…sort of like an in person tutorial…for 
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Re: Just my thoughts regarding CCC Carbon Copy Cloner

[Chris Blouch]

Wish I had noted this before. My manager just got a new Macbook so we 
used CCC to migrate everything from his old Macbook to the new one by 
putting the new machine in target mode and then cloning it all via 
firewire. Worked well but we never did figure out how to get to the 
status thermometer and stuff with voiceover. Didn't think of turning VO 
off and on again. I wonder why?


CB

On 7/7/11 12:55 PM, Dan wrote:

Hello Christopher,
Have fun getting CCC to work for you, I think you'll love it.

Here's a little hint for all us VoiceOver users.

Once you've set up CCC and have entered your password to start what ever 
process you are using, for example, a complete clone, here's a way to make sure 
you are able to track what's going on.

After the process has started, just toggle VO off then back on. Then you will 
be in the actual results window. I've tried using the keyboard to switch to the 
actual activity window, but for some reason, I cant get it to work.

So again, just toggle VO off and then back on to be where the action is.

Then just VO right or left to examine the different parts of the activity as 
it's taking place.


In the past, I've used Super Duper and Time MAchine. So I decided to take a 
really close look at CCC. In my humble opinion, CCC tops them all. Again, just 
how I see it.

HTH!

Dan

On Jul 7, 2011, at 9:37 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:


Wow, Dan!  Thanks for such a great heads up about CCC.  I do have it install on 
my macbook, but really truely haven't played much with it.

I'll give it a look as it sounds really full on!

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Dan"
To:
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 12:12 PM
Subject: Just my thoughts regarding CCC Carbon Copy Cloner


Hello List,
JUst some thoughts on prepairing for Lion.
I set up CCC (Carbon Copy Cloner) and I really love it. It's extremely easy to 
use and it's 100% accessible for VO users.

Not only is it easy to make a complete clone, or a incremental backup, it's 
also really easy to boot from and use it on the external drive.
The log details are well written andeasy to understand.
Restoring the original drive is also really easy to do.

CCC is produced on a shareware kind of concept and it uses a donation request 
field. This is available within CCC as well as on the site.

http://www.bombich.com/

So, why am I posting this?
In light of Lion's upcoming launch, I just wanted to really be prepared. No 
matter what you use as a backup utility, CCC or Super Duper or any other backup 
package, I strongly suggest that you cover all bases and be completely ready 
for the new exciting move to Lion!


Dan

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strange dropbox problem in Lion

[Peggy Fleischer]

Hi:

I have had a strange thing happen since I upgraded to Lion with dropbox.  The 
problem is I no longer see the dropbox submenu in my context menu.  How can I 
copy public links or share a folder without  seeing this menu? Has anyone else 
had this problem?

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A fission question

[Courtney Curran]

Hi,
I have a question about the audio editor called fission  from Rogue Amoeba. How 
can I select and remove chunks of a file, I was told that it's accessible?
Thanks,
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Safari

[Selena Sang]

Hey, I don't know if it's me with the problem with the new update to safari and 
pages like Google, but I have been experiencing some problems with text fields. 
When I go to google to search, voiceover does not read anything I'm typing 
though it does type. After my search is complete and I want to search again, 
sometimes it reads as I'm typing. I've noticed this with a few other sites but 
can't think of them right now. Does anyone know if this is a google thing or a 
voiceover thing or a safari thing?

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Calibre

[Selena Sang]

Hey guys, I just installed calibre on my Mac and have found it to be 
inaccessible. I know the topic has come up before here but I would like someone 
to point me in the right direction to command line help if possible. When I 
launch the application itself as you know, there are a lot of unknowns. I've 
managed to convert a PDF file through TextEdit but I can't name the file that 
I'm reading and it has no author or table of contents information for me to 
navigate when I transfer it to my IPhone. Calibre says you can convert a Zip 
file and i tried to do this but there is an error that shows up but I can not 
tell what it says. I am not famillar with command lines and how to really use 
it but I'd really like to learn. I would really appreciate some help.
Thanks so much

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Re: discovery between vm fusion and mac?

My keys are already remapped.  And like I said in my previous post, I'm able to 
copy something to the clip board in windows, using mac commands, and when I 
paste it in mac documents or email, it works. just fine
Kliphton SR
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(Marriage group)http://groups.google.com/group/committed-married-christians

On Aug 2, 2011, at 10:03 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> The keys in Fusion won't remap as you expect unless you remap them in your 
> virtual machine using Fusion. In other words, the right cmd key is also a 
> Windows key, just as the left cmd key is; the right option key is also alt, 
> just as the left option key is alt. You will want to remap these keys to 
> other functions. I have my right cmd key mapped to the applications key and 
> my right option key mapped to insert (to use this, VO has to be off, or the 
> keyboard commander has to be off). I used sharp keys to do the remapping. 
> Last place I saw it was
> http://www.randyrants.com
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 4:07 AM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote:
> 
>>> Okay, maybe some of you who use fusion on the mac already knew this, but I 
>>> didn't.  Upon reading the features and description of what fusion can do 
>>> before I installed it back in jun on my brand new 27 inch iMac, there was a 
>>> feature listed that you could copy and paste between the 2 systems.  I had 
>>> been trying to do this ever since I installed it, but couldn't figure out 
>>> how.  Today I did by pure accident.  I was using fusion with jaws, and was 
>>> trying to copy and paste something, but used the vo command instead of 
>>> jaws, well, I didn't hear jaws say applications since that is the command 
>>> key on the mac side, but the applications key on the windows side.  So I 
>>> alt tabbed to the mac side, opened up text edit, and what do you know, I 
>>> pushed command v to paste, and what I copied on the windows side was there. 
>>>  I know I was shocked, and maybe some already knew this, but passing it 
>>> along for those who don't.  HTH
>>> 
>>> Kliphton SR
>>> (twitter&Skype) kliphton72
>>> (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com
>>> (Marriage group)http://groups.google.com/group/committed-married-christians
>>> 
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Re: Help needed on completing a survey on Safari

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Linda,

Having tried everything I could think of to make this work, I asked my husband 
to have a look. The buttons to select Yes, No, or I don't know, are 
inaccessible with VO. VO reads the labels, but the actual buttons are to the 
left, and VO skips over them.

The Web rotor shows no buttons or form controls, so the site is badly coded.

Cheers,

Anne


On 2 Aug 2011, at 17:17, Linda Adams wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I am trying to complete a survey and can't get past the first question.  It 
> does not have check boxes so I assume that I need to click on the appropriate 
> choice. I have a laptop with a trackpad  and I'm still using Snow Leopard.  
> 
> In all attempts I first verified that the mouse was on the proper location 
> using VO command F5 and VO F5 to confirm it.
> 
> I've tried the following:
> FN 1
> VO shift space  (single and double tap on the space bar)
> Control and trackpad
> Option and return
> 
> I heard a click sound when I pressed VO shift space and thought I was okay 
> but when I pressed the link to go to the next question, it didn't move.
> 
> I'd appreciate it if someone would take a look at the survey and see what I'm 
> missing.
> 
> Here is the link to the survey
> http://www.zoomerang.com/Survey/WEB22C7JWHH2TD
> 
> The survey is from Army of Women, a nonprofit organization that conducts   
> breast cancer research.  If anyone is interested in learning about it, here 
> is the link to their home page.
> 
> http://www.armyofwomen.org/
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Linda
> 
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Re: Activities.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi Kawal,

I think changing the voice manually when you open safari should do it.  Go to 
Safari and press VO command Left Or  right arrow until you reach the voices 
category then, press VO command down arrow to select Daniel.  He should be the 
default voice for Safari now.

hth

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On Aug 2, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

Hello Teresa.

I did as you have described, but when I opened Safari after turning Voice Over 
Off and on, I expected to hear Daniel but Alex was still speaking so what is 
wrong?  I even restarted the Mac just in case.  What do you and others think?

Kawal.
Sent from my iPhone

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> Hello, Kawal,
> 
> I'll see if I can spell the steps out both thoroughly and concisely.
> 
> Open VO Utility and choose Activities from the categories list.  Then go to 
> the add button and press it. Follow all of the controls on the new activity 
> screen. You must name your activity by choosing a running application from 
> the popup menu. There will be checkboxes corresponding to each VO-utility 
> category. Make sure all the categories you want to adjust are checked. Then 
> close the window for the activity settings.
> 
> I will say that I used one of the Nuance voices in Safari and sometimes it 
> was not responsive, so I took that setting out of my safari activity.
> 
> HTH,
> Teresa
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> Hello All.
>> 
>> I listened to Ricardo's podcast re activities and tried setting a safari 
>> activity changing the voice too.
>> 
>> I turned Voice over off before loading Safari and turned Voice Over back on.
>> 
>> The voice did not change so I assume the activity did not work.
>> 
>> I wish to know what I am doing wrong as I followed Ricardo's instructions.
>> 
>> Thank you all for any replies I might get.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: where do the new voices go?

[Ricardo Walker]

Thanks for that.  That's exactly where they are stored.

Ricardo Walker
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On Aug 2, 2011, at 6:19 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:

Hi Ricardo!
Someone on the other list suggested that you might find them in
/System/Library/Speech/Voices.
And be able to delete from there!
Colin
On 2 Aug 2011, at 01:27, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hello list,
> 
> I was wondering, when you download the new voices found in Lion, where do 
> they go?  I ask because what if you wish to delete them?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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Help needed on completing a survey on Safari

[Linda Adams]

Hi,

I am trying to complete a survey and can't get past the first question.  It 
does not have check boxes so I assume that I need to click on the appropriate 
choice. I have a laptop with a trackpad  and I'm still using Snow Leopard.  

In all attempts I first verified that the mouse was on the proper location 
using VO command F5 and VO F5 to confirm it.

I've tried the following:
 FN 1
VO shift space  (single and double tap on the space bar)
Control and trackpad
Option and return

I heard a click sound when I pressed VO shift space and thought I was okay but 
when I pressed the link to go to the next question, it didn't move.

I'd appreciate it if someone would take a look at the survey and see what I'm 
missing.

Here is the link to the survey
http://www.zoomerang.com/Survey/WEB22C7JWHH2TD

The survey is from Army of Women, a nonprofit organization that conducts   
breast cancer research.  If anyone is interested in learning about it, here is 
the link to their home page.

http://www.armyofwomen.org/

Thanks in advance,
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Re: discovery between vm fusion and mac?

[Buddy Brannan]

Hi,

The keys in Fusion won't remap as you expect unless you remap them in your 
virtual machine using Fusion. In other words, the right cmd key is also a 
Windows key, just as the left cmd key is; the right option key is also alt, 
just as the left option key is alt. You will want to remap these keys to other 
functions. I have my right cmd key mapped to the applications key and my right 
option key mapped to insert (to use this, VO has to be off, or the keyboard 
commander has to be off). I used sharp keys to do the remapping. Last place I 
saw it was
http://www.randyrants.com

--
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Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY



On Aug 2, 2011, at 4:07 AM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote:

>> Okay, maybe some of you who use fusion on the mac already knew this, but I 
>> didn't.  Upon reading the features and description of what fusion can do 
>> before I installed it back in jun on my brand new 27 inch iMac, there was a 
>> feature listed that you could copy and paste between the 2 systems.  I had 
>> been trying to do this ever since I installed it, but couldn't figure out 
>> how.  Today I did by pure accident.  I was using fusion with jaws, and was 
>> trying to copy and paste something, but used the vo command instead of jaws, 
>> well, I didn't hear jaws say applications since that is the command key on 
>> the mac side, but the applications key on the windows side.  So I alt tabbed 
>> to the mac side, opened up text edit, and what do you know, I pushed command 
>> v to paste, and what I copied on the windows side was there.  I know I was 
>> shocked, and maybe some already knew this, but passing it along for those 
>> who don't.  HTH
>> 
>> Kliphton SR
>> (twitter&Skype) kliphton72
>> (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com
>> (Marriage group)http://groups.google.com/group/committed-married-christians
>> 
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Re: Activities.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hi Teresa.

I did specify other settings for safari such as quick Nav and had downloaded 
quite a number of voices long before I tried this. Quick Nav works.
Kawal.

Sent from my iPhone

On 2 Aug 2011, at 03:21 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> Hi, Kawal,
> 
> Are there other settings in the activity that you've verified to be working? 
> Also, have you tested the downloadable voices to see if they are available on 
> your computer?
> 
> Teresa
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 6:47 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> Hello Teresa.
>> 
>> I did as you have described, but when I opened Safari after turning Voice 
>> Over Off and on, I expected to hear Daniel but Alex was still speaking so 
>> what is wrong?  I even restarted the Mac just in case.  What do you and 
>> others think?
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2 Aug 2011, at 02:24 PM, Teresa Cochran  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello, Kawal,
>>> 
>>> I'll see if I can spell the steps out both thoroughly and concisely.
>>> 
>>> Open VO Utility and choose Activities from the categories list.  Then go to 
>>> the add button and press it. Follow all of the controls on the new activity 
>>> screen. You must name your activity by choosing a running application from 
>>> the popup menu. There will be checkboxes corresponding to each VO-utility 
>>> category. Make sure all the categories you want to adjust are checked. Then 
>>> close the window for the activity settings.
>>> 
>>> I will say that I used one of the Nuance voices in Safari and sometimes it 
>>> was not responsive, so I took that setting out of my safari activity.
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> Teresa
>>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> 
 Hello All.
 
 I listened to Ricardo's podcast re activities and tried setting a safari 
 activity changing the voice too.
 
 I turned Voice over off before loading Safari and turned Voice Over back 
 on.
 
 The voice did not change so I assume the activity did not work.
 
 I wish to know what I am doing wrong as I followed Ricardo's instructions.
 
 Thank you all for any replies I might get.
 
 Kawal.
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Re: Activities.

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, Kawal,

Are there other settings in the activity that you've verified to be working? 
Also, have you tested the downloadable voices to see if they are available on 
your computer?

Teresa
On Aug 2, 2011, at 6:47 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> Hello Teresa.
> 
> I did as you have described, but when I opened Safari after turning Voice 
> Over Off and on, I expected to hear Daniel but Alex was still speaking so 
> what is wrong?  I even restarted the Mac just in case.  What do you and 
> others think?
> 
> Kawal.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2 Aug 2011, at 02:24 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
>> Hello, Kawal,
>> 
>> I'll see if I can spell the steps out both thoroughly and concisely.
>> 
>> Open VO Utility and choose Activities from the categories list.  Then go to 
>> the add button and press it. Follow all of the controls on the new activity 
>> screen. You must name your activity by choosing a running application from 
>> the popup menu. There will be checkboxes corresponding to each VO-utility 
>> category. Make sure all the categories you want to adjust are checked. Then 
>> close the window for the activity settings.
>> 
>> I will say that I used one of the Nuance voices in Safari and sometimes it 
>> was not responsive, so I took that setting out of my safari activity.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Teresa
>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello All.
>>> 
>>> I listened to Ricardo's podcast re activities and tried setting a safari 
>>> activity changing the voice too.
>>> 
>>> I turned Voice over off before loading Safari and turned Voice Over back on.
>>> 
>>> The voice did not change so I assume the activity did not work.
>>> 
>>> I wish to know what I am doing wrong as I followed Ricardo's instructions.
>>> 
>>> Thank you all for any replies I might get.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Activities.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hello Teresa.

I did as you have described, but when I opened Safari after turning Voice Over 
Off and on, I expected to hear Daniel but Alex was still speaking so what is 
wrong?  I even restarted the Mac just in case.  What do you and others think?

Kawal.
Sent from my iPhone

On 2 Aug 2011, at 02:24 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> Hello, Kawal,
> 
> I'll see if I can spell the steps out both thoroughly and concisely.
> 
> Open VO Utility and choose Activities from the categories list.  Then go to 
> the add button and press it. Follow all of the controls on the new activity 
> screen. You must name your activity by choosing a running application from 
> the popup menu. There will be checkboxes corresponding to each VO-utility 
> category. Make sure all the categories you want to adjust are checked. Then 
> close the window for the activity settings.
> 
> I will say that I used one of the Nuance voices in Safari and sometimes it 
> was not responsive, so I took that setting out of my safari activity.
> 
> HTH,
> Teresa
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> Hello All.
>> 
>> I listened to Ricardo's podcast re activities and tried setting a safari 
>> activity changing the voice too.
>> 
>> I turned Voice over off before loading Safari and turned Voice Over back on.
>> 
>> The voice did not change so I assume the activity did not work.
>> 
>> I wish to know what I am doing wrong as I followed Ricardo's instructions.
>> 
>> Thank you all for any replies I might get.
>> 
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Re: Activities.

[Teresa Cochran]

I should clarify something I said. In the new activity settings, there is a 
place for the title. Just rename it from the default untitled. There is also a 
setting to associate it with an application. It's best to have the application 
open before you open the new activity, as all the open ones will show up in the 
popup menu.

HTh,
Teresa
On Aug 2, 2011, at 6:24 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Hello, Kawal,
> 
> I'll see if I can spell the steps out both thoroughly and concisely.
> 
> Open VO Utility and choose Activities from the categories list.  Then go to 
> the add button and press it. Follow all of the controls on the new activity 
> screen. You must name your activity by choosing a running application from 
> the popup menu. There will be checkboxes corresponding to each VO-utility 
> category. Make sure all the categories you want to adjust are checked. Then 
> close the window for the activity settings.
> 
> I will say that I used one of the Nuance voices in Safari and sometimes it 
> was not responsive, so I took that setting out of my safari activity.
> 
> HTH,
> Teresa
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> Hello All.
>> 
>> I listened to Ricardo's podcast re activities and tried setting a safari 
>> activity changing the voice too.
>> 
>> I turned Voice over off before loading Safari and turned Voice Over back on.
>> 
>> The voice did not change so I assume the activity did not work.
>> 
>> I wish to know what I am doing wrong as I followed Ricardo's instructions.
>> 
>> Thank you all for any replies I might get.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Lion Mail, Conversations view and interacting

[Teresa Cochran]

I find that using the favorites bar in combination with quick-keys associated 
with it makes the new layout very easy to navigate. Once you create aliases in 
the favorites bar by simply dragging the mailboxes to it, you have the 
keystrokes command-1, command-2, command-3, etc. depending on the order the 
mailboxes are placed. Drag and drop is a bit tricky and takes a little 
coddling, but once everything's in place, it's a very efficient setup.

HTH,
Teresa
On Aug 2, 2011, at 4:05 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:

> it does seem to work that way in classic view, but my opinion is that 
> switching back to classic view is ultimately self defeating, as eventually 
> classic view will go, and this will not be in Lion sure, but perhaps a 
> revision or so down the line, at which time, learning all the changes from 
> Snow Leopard to that version of OSx will be much harder, so although it hurts 
> right now, I'd rather get to grips with the new view now.
> 
> so need to find a way of doing this.
> On 2 Aug 2011, at 10:58, Chris Moore wrote:
> 
> Yeah I must admit, I used to browse this way too.  I have not tried it in 
> classic mode, so have you tried to see if you can still do it that way?
> On 2 Aug 2011, at 10:53, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> A hopefully quick question, I used to have my mail in Snow Leopard set up so 
>> that my forums mail, which has its own mailbox and e-mail address, would be 
>> shown in a threaded view, I would arrow down my mailbox list to the Forums 
>> mailbox, stop interacting and arrow right to the messages view, then 
>> interact with it, then again interact with the columns and arrow over to the 
>> subject view.
>> 
>> this meant that for me I had a quick and easy way of deleting entire threads 
>> I was not interested in, or opening entire threads that I was.
>> 
>> It now seems though with Lion Mail, that when using the new view, and with 
>> conversations enabled, that one cannot interact with the columns within the 
>> messages view, making this impossible to achieve.
>> 
>> put simply, I do not need to hear the info about author, from, date etc, 
>> just the subject line.
>> 
>> thanks for any pointers or ideas.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Neil Barnfather
>> 
>> Talks List Administrator
>> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>> 
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Re: Activities.

[Teresa Cochran]

Hello, Kawal,

I'll see if I can spell the steps out both thoroughly and concisely.

Open VO Utility and choose Activities from the categories list.  Then go to the 
add button and press it. Follow all of the controls on the new activity screen. 
You must name your activity by choosing a running application from the popup 
menu. There will be checkboxes corresponding to each VO-utility category. Make 
sure all the categories you want to adjust are checked. Then close the window 
for the activity settings.

I will say that I used one of the Nuance voices in Safari and sometimes it was 
not responsive, so I took that setting out of my safari activity.

HTH,
Teresa
On Aug 2, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> Hello All.
> 
> I listened to Ricardo's podcast re activities and tried setting a safari 
> activity changing the voice too.
> 
> I turned Voice over off before loading Safari and turned Voice Over back on.
> 
> The voice did not change so I assume the activity did not work.
> 
> I wish to know what I am doing wrong as I followed Ricardo's instructions.
> 
> Thank you all for any replies I might get.
> 
> Kawal.
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Lion Mail, Conversations view and interacting

[Neil Barnfather - TalkNav]

it does seem to work that way in classic view, but my opinion is that switching 
back to classic view is ultimately self defeating, as eventually classic view 
will go, and this will not be in Lion sure, but perhaps a revision or so down 
the line, at which time, learning all the changes from Snow Leopard to that 
version of OSx will be much harder, so although it hurts right now, I'd rather 
get to grips with the new view now.

so need to find a way of doing this.
On 2 Aug 2011, at 10:58, Chris Moore wrote:

Yeah I must admit, I used to browse this way too.  I have not tried it in 
classic mode, so have you tried to see if you can still do it that way?
On 2 Aug 2011, at 10:53, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> A hopefully quick question, I used to have my mail in Snow Leopard set up so 
> that my forums mail, which has its own mailbox and e-mail address, would be 
> shown in a threaded view, I would arrow down my mailbox list to the Forums 
> mailbox, stop interacting and arrow right to the messages view, then interact 
> with it, then again interact with the columns and arrow over to the subject 
> view.
> 
> this meant that for me I had a quick and easy way of deleting entire threads 
> I was not interested in, or opening entire threads that I was.
> 
> It now seems though with Lion Mail, that when using the new view, and with 
> conversations enabled, that one cannot interact with the columns within the 
> messages view, making this impossible to achieve.
> 
> put simply, I do not need to hear the info about author, from, date etc, just 
> the subject line.
> 
> thanks for any pointers or ideas.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Neil Barnfather
> 
> Talks List Administrator
> Twitter @neilbarnfather
> 
> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your
> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
> 
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Re: where do the new voices go?

[Red.Falcon]

Hi Ricardo!
Someone on the other list suggested that you might find them in
/System/Library/Speech/Voices.
And be able to delete from there!
Colin
On 2 Aug 2011, at 01:27, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hello list,
> 
> I was wondering, when you download the new voices found in Lion, where do 
> they go?  I ask because what if you wish to delete them?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: Lion Mail, Conversations view and interacting

[Chris Moore]

Yeah I must admit, I used to browse this way too.  I have not tried it in 
classic mode, so have you tried to see if you can still do it that way?
On 2 Aug 2011, at 10:53, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> A hopefully quick question, I used to have my mail in Snow Leopard set up so 
> that my forums mail, which has its own mailbox and e-mail address, would be 
> shown in a threaded view, I would arrow down my mailbox list to the Forums 
> mailbox, stop interacting and arrow right to the messages view, then interact 
> with it, then again interact with the columns and arrow over to the subject 
> view.
> 
> this meant that for me I had a quick and easy way of deleting entire threads 
> I was not interested in, or opening entire threads that I was.
> 
> It now seems though with Lion Mail, that when using the new view, and with 
> conversations enabled, that one cannot interact with the columns within the 
> messages view, making this impossible to achieve.
> 
> put simply, I do not need to hear the info about author, from, date etc, just 
> the subject line.
> 
> thanks for any pointers or ideas.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Neil Barnfather
> 
> Talks List Administrator
> Twitter @neilbarnfather
> 
> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your
> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
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Lion Mail, Conversations view and interacting

[Neil Barnfather - TalkNav]

Hi All,

A hopefully quick question, I used to have my mail in Snow Leopard set up so 
that my forums mail, which has its own mailbox and e-mail address, would be 
shown in a threaded view, I would arrow down my mailbox list to the Forums 
mailbox, stop interacting and arrow right to the messages view, then interact 
with it, then again interact with the columns and arrow over to the subject 
view.

this meant that for me I had a quick and easy way of deleting entire threads I 
was not interested in, or opening entire threads that I was.

It now seems though with Lion Mail, that when using the new view, and with 
conversations enabled, that one cannot interact with the columns within the 
messages view, making this impossible to achieve.

put simply, I do not need to hear the info about author, from, date etc, just 
the subject line.

thanks for any pointers or ideas.


Regards,

Neil Barnfather

Talks List Administrator
Twitter @neilbarnfather

TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your
accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com

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Re: Restoring my IPhone

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Have you tried connecting to Itunes using your Mac or computer?

Kawal.

Sent from my iPhone

On 2 Aug 2011, at 10:38 AM, "Paul Hunt"  wrote:

> Hello everyone. This morning my IPhone update failed so I had to restore it. 
> I chose to restore from my IPhone backup. All is well except for my apps. My 
> folders are app there but none of my purchased apps are. I looked in my apps 
> tab and can see all of them. I thought I could check the apps that I need to 
> but for some reason it’s not working. How do I set voice over to read the 
> check boxes? How do I check off the apps I want synchronized? I assume that I 
> check the boxes in the apps tab rather than on my IPhone?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks so much.
> 
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> 
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Restoring my IPhone

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everyone. This morning my IPhone update failed so I had to restore it.
I chose to restore from my IPhone backup. All is well except for my apps. My
folders are app there but none of my purchased apps are. I looked in my apps
tab and can see all of them. I thought I could check the apps that I need to
but for some reason it's not working. How do I set voice over to read the
check boxes? How do I check off the apps I want synchronized? I assume that
I check the boxes in the apps tab rather than on my IPhone?

 

Thanks so much.

 

 

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