Re: system dialog but not there

[Ray Foret Jr]

Thanks.  Thing is, I believe it happens while screen saver is envoked.

Funny thing is, this never happened prior to the 10.8.2 build.


Sincerely,
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Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
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On Oct 3, 2012, at 1:14 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> Hi Ray,
> 
> You might try a VO click on it. It may have gone out of focus because of a 
> blank screen or screen-saver. Try VO-shift-space wherever you happen to be 
> and see if it comes back.
> 
> HtH,
> Teresa
> 
> On Oct 2, 2012, at 8:01 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> Okay.
>> 
>> Want a weird problem?  Here goes.  While running Skype, and after a while of 
>> just sitting there, I will suddenly hear a Skype alert telling me a contact 
>> has gone on or off line; and then, I hear "system dialog".  But, when I go 
>> to check using VO+F2, nothing but that one window open.  Any clues?
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
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Re: typing at fast speeds with the Alex voice ...

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I've thought that a very long time. I use Samantha as she's a bit better.

Kawal.

On Oct 3, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Jeff Bishop  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I have noticed that typing very quickly on my Mac using Alex that it is not
> very responsive (not keeping up as I type). Now, I do have keyboard speech
> set to echo characters. Switching to Samantha seems to be a bit better but I
> was just curious what others impressions are as far as a good voice that is
> very responsive (even if purchased)?
> 
> Jeff
> 
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has anyone gotten Growl to work for announcing Dropbox changes

[Jeff Bishop]

Hello,

I have been playing with Growl 2.0 under Mountain Lion and have yet to get
it to see my Dropbox changes and announce them. Has anyone gotten this to
work? For example, announcing when a file is added to my Dropbox folder.

Jeff


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Re: has anyone gotten Growl to work for announcing Dropbox changes

[Chris]

Growl is problematic as it is. Although it worked on my Macbook Pro it 
did not work on my friend Gary Price's Macbook. Somehow I got Dropbox to 
notify me via a standard box, and this is built into the app. The only 
thing I can think of is the notification centre is involved.



Christopher Hallsworth

On 03/10/2012 09:12, Jeff Bishop wrote:

Hello,

I have been playing with Growl 2.0 under Mountain Lion and have yet to get
it to see my Dropbox changes and announce them. Has anyone gotten this to
work? For example, announcing when a file is added to my Dropbox folder.

Jeff




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Re: typing at fast speeds with the Alex voice ...

[Chris]

I have typing echo set to words and I find him very responsive.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 03/10/2012 05:58, Jeff Bishop wrote:

Hello,

I have noticed that typing very quickly on my Mac using Alex that it is not
very responsive (not keeping up as I type). Now, I do have keyboard speech
set to echo characters. Switching to Samantha seems to be a bit better but I
was just curious what others impressions are as far as a good voice that is
very responsive (even if purchased)?

Jeff




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Re: system dialog but not there

[Chris]

Press vo-F1 twice to open the application chooser menu. One of which 
should be a system dialog menu. Open that and you should see the title 
of the application containing the system dialog.



Christopher Hallsworth

On 03/10/2012 04:01, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

Okay.

Want a weird problem?  Here goes.  While running Skype, and after a
while of just sitting there, I will suddenly hear a Skype alert telling
me a contact has gone on or off line; and then, I hear "system dialog".
  But, when I go to check using VO+F2, nothing but that one window open.
  Any clues?


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Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
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Re: Go to end of document

[Chris]

Left and right is home and end, up and down is page up and page down.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 03/10/2012 02:01, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Donovan,

I was under the impression that up and down was home and end and left
and right was page up and down.  Do I have it backwards?  I do it so
second natured I don't really think/annalyze it.  LOL!

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Donovan Osborn"

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: Go to end of document



There is a page down key it is Function+Down arrow
The Function key is probably the key left of the VO keys.
You can hit VO+K tu turn on key description and here all of the
Function arrow keys  to see what thay do.

Sincerely,

Donovan Osborn
donovan303...@gmail.com



On Oct 2, 2012, at 3:56 PM, Agent086b  wrote:


Hello, thanks to the help I received earlier I am getting numbers to
work now.
Is there a way to go to the end of a document in Numbers and Text
Edit? I am using the Apple wireless keyboard so don't have a page
down key that I know of.
Thanks again.
Max.

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Re: iPad

[Chris]

I think an audio demonstration would be ideal, as then people will be 
aware of what will happen when a factory reset is performed on all 
iDevices. It doesn't matter what is being used, however I saw a message 
on my newly restored iPhone last night saying, "activating iPhone". This 
is during the setup process. It was successful, but just saying as I 
don't think this appears on either the iPod Touch or iPad.

Just some thoughts.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 03/10/2012 01:46, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Let me know if you all need that audio demonstration still.  I'm not
about! to reset my IPhone to demonstration this, but I'd be happy to do
it with the IPod, seeing I mainly only use that thing as a testing
device for things like this anyway.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Chris Bruinenberg" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: iPad


Hi Chris.
I know, it works. I tried my brothers iPhone 4s and it does not turn
voiceover on.
Your correct with everything you said and it all makes perfect sense.

Thanks.
Chris Bruinenberg

cbrui...@gmail.com



On Oct 2, 2012, at 3:23 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"
 wrote:


Gigi, you're still not understanding though what we're trying to
explain. This explains why it didn't work.

The tripple click of the home key won't work unless several conditions
have been met.

1.  The user gets the IPhone out of the box for the first time, powers
it on for the very first time, and as soon as the first initial screen
to set up the device comes up, they then press the home key 3 times
quickly in a row.

2.  The user must go into settings, accessibility, tripple click home,
and set it to toggle voiceover.

Here's the thing though that you need to understand.  The tripple
clicking of the home key, to toggle it on/off as you all were testing,
and trying to do, will, not, work, unless you either manually set it
to do so through settings, or unless you mash the home key the 3 times
quickly after very very first turnhing on the phone.  I don't mean,
turn on the phone after it already has been before, then immediately
press home 3 times.  That won't necessarily work.  You literally have
to do it initially the very very very first time ever that the device
is powered on or is reset to factory default settings with all data
being wiped.

I guarantee, if you was to buy an I O S device from Apple, take it out
of the box, put the sim card in, if there need to be one depending on
the network it's being used with, then hold the sleep/power button on
the top right of the device, power it on, then as soon for the first
time as it ever gets power, and comes on, as soon as you see the
screen that says welcome, and you then immediately press the home key,
the round concaved key at the front bottom center just below the
screen 3 times quickly as a tripple click, Voiceover would then start
talking.  It would be a bit quiet, and you may have to turn it up, but
ultimately, it should turn on.

The reason it wasn't working when you all did it, is because someone
had already gotten through those welcome screens.  They'd already
selected their language, time zone, etc etc and initially set up the
device.  Once they've done this, if they didn't turn Voiceover on at
that time with the tripple click, as they were setting it up, then it
won't work unless you manually go in and turn that setting on.  If you
do it during the initial setup screen, it will turn Voiceover on, plus
will set it so that from that point forward, no matter what, hitting
the home key 3 quick times will toggle Voiceover on/off.

I have an old IPod, which is pretty much identical to an IPhone only
without the hardware gut of the phone, but same exact system/OS.  It's
still I O S. If this doesn't make sense, I'll try making an audio
recording with it after restoring it to factory default and show you
what I mean.

Chris.

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Re: has anyone gotten Growl to work for announcing Dropbox changes

[Steve Holmes]

I've never done anything with Growl since I began using a Mac last spring.  
With the improved notification center in Mountain Lion, I don't see any value 
in it anymore.  Maybe I'm missing something but what notifications I've seen, 
all works fine with base stuff.

Not sure if this helps your situation or not.

On Oct 3, 2012, at 3:36 AM, Chris  wrote:

> Growl is problematic as it is. Although it worked on my Macbook Pro it did 
> not work on my friend Gary Price's Macbook. Somehow I got Dropbox to notify 
> me via a standard box, and this is built into the app. The only thing I can 
> think of is the notification centre is involved.
> 
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> 
> On 03/10/2012 09:12, Jeff Bishop wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I have been playing with Growl 2.0 under Mountain Lion and have yet to get
>> it to see my Dropbox changes and announce them. Has anyone gotten this to
>> work? For example, announcing when a file is added to my Dropbox folder.
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>> 
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Re: system dialog but not there

[Steve Holmes]

Yeah, I had an elusive system dialog sitting around here for a while and could 
never seem to access it.  I knew the update for 10.8.2 had been recently 
announced so I decided to manually look for it through the app store and after 
applying that, I haven't seen that dialog anymore.  I'll have to try the 
application chooser next time; I have tried window chooser in the past and 
thought I had gotten to that dialog then but doing that this time did not work. 
 

Thanks for suggesting the application chooser instead.

On Oct 3, 2012, at 3:51 AM, Chris  wrote:

> Press vo-F1 twice to open the application chooser menu. One of which should 
> be a system dialog menu. Open that and you should see the title of the 
> application containing the system dialog.
> 
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> 
> On 03/10/2012 04:01, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> Okay.
>> 
>> Want a weird problem?  Here goes.  While running Skype, and after a
>> while of just sitting there, I will suddenly hear a Skype alert telling
>> me a contact has gone on or off line; and then, I hear "system dialog".
>>  But, when I go to check using VO+F2, nothing but that one window open.
>>  Any clues?
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
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Re: system dialog but not there

[Ray Foret Jr]

Well, if it helps, just now, I noticed that when my contacts do things on Skype 
that trigger Grouel alerts, Voice over seems to entirely loose focus no matter 
what I'm doing or what ever app I'm in;  mail for example.  Just now, before I 
even got in to mail, I noticed that a Grouel alert was triggered by a contact 
going off line on Skype, and then, I heard Voice Over say, "system status" and 
then, refocus itself on my hard drive.  What gives?


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

On Oct 3, 2012, at 5:51 AM, Chris  wrote:

> Press vo-F1 twice to open the application chooser menu. One of which should 
> be a system dialog menu. Open that and you should see the title of the 
> application containing the system dialog.
> 
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> 
> On 03/10/2012 04:01, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> Okay.
>> 
>> Want a weird problem?  Here goes.  While running Skype, and after a
>> while of just sitting there, I will suddenly hear a Skype alert telling
>> me a contact has gone on or off line; and then, I hear "system dialog".
>>  But, when I go to check using VO+F2, nothing but that one window open.
>>  Any clues?
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
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Re: system dialog but not there

[Donovan Osborn]

Now I might be wrong but I believe that it is a small pop up window that gives 
us the name of the contact visually.. They go away only after a few seconds. By 
the time you switch to Skype and hit the window chooser it has already gone 
away. 
Personaly I find that hearing if a contact has gone online or offline is quite 
annoying so I turn them off in the Preferences.


Sincerely,

Donovan Osborn
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On Oct 2, 2012, at 8:01 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> Okay.
> 
> Want a weird problem?  Here goes.  While running Skype, and after a while of 
> just sitting there, I will suddenly hear a Skype alert telling me a contact 
> has gone on or off line; and then, I hear "system dialog".  But, when I go to 
> check using VO+F2, nothing but that one window open.  Any clues?
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
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need help with fusion error.

[Vivianna]

Hi all;
i am running fusion version 4.1 on a mac air under the latest version of ML.
this is the second time that i have had this error occur.  the last time i had 
to completely delete the vm and create a new one.  here is the exact text of 
the error;
error in starting sound stream
sound is disconnected
ok
both times this error has occurred when i woke up the computer in the morning.
please help with solutions if there are any.  i just got this vm set up the way 
i like it again…
thanks so much.

Vivianna

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Re: typing at fast speeds with the Alex voice ...

[Alex Hall]

I have no typing echo as Alex was never able to keep up with me. I normally 
type so fast that no synth can fully pronounce the characters I type as I type 
them, so I see little point int leaving echo on. Alex, though, always seemed a 
bit slow to respond. I now use Serena and find her much more responsive.
On Oct 3, 2012, at 6:47 AM, Chris  wrote:

> I have typing echo set to words and I find him very responsive.
> 
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> 
> On 03/10/2012 05:58, Jeff Bishop wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I have noticed that typing very quickly on my Mac using Alex that it is not
>> very responsive (not keeping up as I type). Now, I do have keyboard speech
>> set to echo characters. Switching to Samantha seems to be a bit better but I
>> was just curious what others impressions are as far as a good voice that is
>> very responsive (even if purchased)?
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>> 
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Some more questions about Windows 7 on the Mac

[Cheryl Homiak]

I've had Windows xp running in vmware fusion on my macbook pro. Now i have just 
purchased Windows 7 and it will be here on Friday. I did follow the earlier 
bootcamp thread but I have some additional questions.

1. Can i install Windows 7 with vmware fusion to initially play with it and 
then reactivate it after I install it using bootcamp as long as I'm not going 
to try to use the same key both with vmware and its separate partition once I 
have it installed separately?

2. Somebody mentioned importing an installation from vmware to the bootcamp 
installation. is this possible and does it require less sighted help? Are there 
other caveats of which I should be aware if I decide to do that?

3. If i want to use my multi-link bluetoot keyboard with Windows in the 
bootcamp partition, can I do this? I realize this will be a full-fledged 
Windows installation but I wondered if the drivers involved include bluetooth 
support.

4. When I go to install Window-eyes in the bootcamp Windows partition and 
windoweyes says it has to reboot to start the install, will it automatically 
restart in Windows or will I have to use the option key to make sure it does so 
if I have Macos as the default? Maybe I should just make Windows the default 
while i'm doing the windoweyes install just to keep things less complicated? I 
won't need to hurry to install windoweyes as I also have System Access.


Thanks.


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Re: typing at fast speeds with the Alex voice ...

[Mike Arrigo]

The nuance voices are very responsive when typing. Personally I think 
Alex is fine when typing, at least in my case. You might check out the 
Infovox voices from Acapela, though I think their responsiveness is similar.

Original message:

Hello,



I have noticed that typing very quickly on my Mac using Alex that it is not
very responsive (not keeping up as I type). Now, I do have keyboard speech
set to echo characters. Switching to Samantha seems to be a bit better but I
was just curious what others impressions are as far as a good voice that is
very responsive (even if purchased)?



Jeff




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Re: need help with fusion error.

[Mike Arrigo]

Try this. Highlight the virtual machine and press command+e to open the 
settings for it. There is an item there for the sound card, what does 
it say? Perhaps I can look at this for you on the way to Jefferson City 
on Friday while on the train.

Original message:

Hi all;
i am running fusion version 4.1 on a mac air under the latest version of ML.
this is the second time that i have had this error occur.  the last 
time i had to completely delete the vm and create a new one.  here is 
the exact text of the error;

error in starting sound stream
sound is disconnected
ok
both times this error has occurred when i woke up the computer in the morning.
please help with solutions if there are any.  i just got this vm set up 
the way i like it again…

thanks so much.



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Re: need help with fusion error.

[Cheryl Homiak]

Hopefully you won't have to create the vm again. However, just in case you do, 
here is a tip:

If you have a version of the vm on your backup - for instance, I know that 
superduper completely backs it up - you can delete the folder for that virtual 
machine in ~/Documents/Virtual Machines. the defective virtual machine. Then 
you can drag and drop your backup version in finder to the Virtual Machines 
window. As I recall, you then have to open it in finder before it actually 
shows up again as a virtual machine in your virtual machine library. You only 
lose whatever you did since the last backup. Of course this is assuming that 
re-introduction of the backup doesn't give you the same error. It really seems 
that this should be fixable in settings as Mike says but I would have been 
furious if I had needed to reinstall Windows XP over again!

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On Oct 3, 2012, at 10:16 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:

> Try this. Highlight the virtual machine and press command+e to open the 
> settings for it. There is an item there for the sound card, what does it say? 
> Perhaps I can look at this for you on the way to Jefferson City on Friday 
> while on the train.
> Original message:
>> Hi all;
>> i am running fusion version 4.1 on a mac air under the latest version of ML.
>> this is the second time that i have had this error occur.  the last time i 
>> had to completely delete the vm and create a new one.  here is the exact 
>> text of the error;
>> error in starting sound stream
>> sound is disconnected
>> ok
>> both times this error has occurred when i woke up the computer in the 
>> morning.
>> please help with solutions if there are any.  i just got this vm set up the 
>> way i like it again…
>> thanks so much.
> 
>> Vivianna
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Can't update flas player using Tab key

[Blinkin]

Happy hump day all,
So in the past I have been able to update my flash player by using the 
Tab key to jump through the different buttons and areas.
I have been trying to do this now though and it is not working.
It let's me check the box to agree to the terms but once I tab to the 
Agree button and press VO space or any other combination it just removed the 
checkmark.
Does anyone know how I can solve this problem?
Thanks and take care!

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Re: need help with fusion error.

[Vivianna]

well, when i tried to open fusion again it crashed the entire mac.  so.  i am 
furious.  i had to reinstall completely.  not only that but, i went ahead and 
updated to fusion 5.1
now i am just waiting for it to finish installing.  because it would not let me 
import the existing vm.

thanks for the tips all.
Vivianna

On Oct 3, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> Hopefully you won't have to create the vm again. However, just in case you 
> do, here is a tip:
> 
> If you have a version of the vm on your backup - for instance, I know that 
> superduper completely backs it up - you can delete the folder for that 
> virtual machine in ~/Documents/Virtual Machines. the defective virtual 
> machine. Then you can drag and drop your backup version in finder to the 
> Virtual Machines window. As I recall, you then have to open it in finder 
> before it actually shows up again as a virtual machine in your virtual 
> machine library. You only lose whatever you did since the last backup. Of 
> course this is assuming that re-introduction of the backup doesn't give you 
> the same error. It really seems that this should be fixable in settings as 
> Mike says but I would have been furious if I had needed to reinstall Windows 
> XP over again!
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> May the words of my mouth
> and the meditation of my heart
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 3, 2012, at 10:16 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
>> Try this. Highlight the virtual machine and press command+e to open the 
>> settings for it. There is an item there for the sound card, what does it 
>> say? Perhaps I can look at this for you on the way to Jefferson City on 
>> Friday while on the train.
>> Original message:
>>> Hi all;
>>> i am running fusion version 4.1 on a mac air under the latest version of ML.
>>> this is the second time that i have had this error occur.  the last time i 
>>> had to completely delete the vm and create a new one.  here is the exact 
>>> text of the error;
>>> error in starting sound stream
>>> sound is disconnected
>>> ok
>>> both times this error has occurred when i woke up the computer in the 
>>> morning.
>>> please help with solutions if there are any.  i just got this vm set up the 
>>> way i like it again…
>>> thanks so much.
>> 
>>> Vivianna
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Re: Can't update flas player using Tab key

[Walter Harper]

you can solve the problem by pressing the space bar without the VO keys.  I had 
the same problem as well.  Once I did that it installed with no problem.
Walter 
On Oct 3, 2012, at 11:51 AM, Blinkin  wrote:

> Happy hump day all,
>   So in the past I have been able to update my flash player by using the 
> Tab key to jump through the different buttons and areas.
>   I have been trying to do this now though and it is not working.
>   It let's me check the box to agree to the terms but once I tab to the 
> Agree button and press VO space or any other combination it just removed the 
> checkmark.
>   Does anyone know how I can solve this problem?
>   Thanks and take care!
> 
> Mike 
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Re: Change

[Mauricio Almeida]

you just caused spam by replying to an e-mail which was originally not spam.

enjoy learning to simply move to the next message.

Mauricio
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> I really wish you guys would stop spamming the list! We get enough traffic on 
> this list without receiving news letters about your company.
> 
> On Oct 1, 2012, at 7:00 AM, Scott Rumery  wrote:
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>>> *FROM THE BLOG
>>> *EMPOWERMENT QUOTE
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Change
>>> 
>>> There is a famous saying amongst successful individuals that goes “five 
>>> years from now you will be in the same place doing the same thing except 
>>> for the books you read and the people you meet”. Noticed I started the 
>>> sentence with successful individuals not your broke friend giving financial 
>>> advice or your dearly beloved sister giving you her expert opinion on 
>>> cooking when she burns everything she makes! Change is one of the most 
>>> hardest realities for a person to accept and technological changes are even 
>>> harder to cope with. 
>>> 
>>> When you look at how long it took to go from a mostly analog world in the 
>>> 80’s to this new digital age we are in now. It is astounding to muse over. 
>>> As a geek I couldn’t imagine not having the highest speed computer or 
>>> upgrading to faster internet connections when the changes came around. I 
>>> talked about computers and technology to anyone who would listen from a 
>>> young boy to well into my adult life and when I realized that people were 
>>> interested in the intriguing  conversation an was excited for me but they 
>>> wouldn’t embrace technology for themselves outside of their jobs. I knew 
>>> then that change was hard for most people. They wanted their phones to 
>>> continue to have buttons, They wanted cars to be easily fixed  not computer 
>>> centric and they wanted AT&T to continue to  be their long distance 
>>> provider for the rest of their lives. Another quote is “people convinced 
>>> against their will is of the same opinion still”
>>> 
>>> Going back to my first sentence you will understand that success comes from 
>>> continuous learning and networking. If you want to be better at budgeting, 
>>> better with your spiritual life, your marriage, your family and friends or 
>>> just a better manager or leader. without reading and networking you’ll 
>>> forever flounder around trying to figure out how to be a better person who 
>>> lives life instead of just existing. Read more and meat more people and 
>>> change your life, your leadership and your business. 
>>> 
>>> ---
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>>> our firm I’m just going to take this time out to thank you for supporting 
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Re: typing at fast speeds with the Alex voice ...

[Mark Baxter]

Why would anyone want to have a typing echo at all, unless one were learning 
the keyboard for the first time?  In which case, the lag won't really matter, 
as typing speed will be negligible.  For anyone typing faster than 50-60 WPM, 
much less 120 or so which most people type at, having typing echo set to 
anything other than nothing is just annoying and inefficient.


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Re: typing at fast speeds with the Alex voice ...

[Traci]

I use Samantha compact.

When I first got my Mac last year, I tried Alex for a month or so, but couldn't 
get use to him.  It was one thing I missed from my windows screen reader, being 
able to set different rates for keyboard, screen, mouse.

If it was an option, I'd probably have Sam-Compact for keyboard, and Alex for 
reading.

:)
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> Why would anyone want to have a typing echo at all, unless one were learning 
> the keyboard for the first time?  In which case, the lag won't really matter, 
> as typing speed will be negligible.  For anyone typing faster than 50-60 WPM, 
> much less 120 or so which most people type at, having typing echo set to 
> anything other than nothing is just annoying and inefficient.
> 
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Re: typing at fast speeds with the Alex voice ...

[Ricardo Walker]

lol,

you honestly think most people type at 120 wpm?  I definitely don't think so.  
I bet the average typing speed is somewhere around 45wpm.  

Ricardo Walker
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On Oct 3, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mark Baxter  wrote:

> Why would anyone want to have a typing echo at all, unless one were learning 
> the keyboard for the first time?  In which case, the lag won't really matter, 
> as typing speed will be negligible.  For anyone typing faster than 50-60 WPM, 
> much less 120 or so which most people type at, having typing echo set to 
> anything other than nothing is just annoying and inefficient.
> 
> 
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watching videos via chrome browser

[Traci]

Hi all,

I finally installed google chrome.  It is nice how videos on hulu & Facebook 
play so easily.  What I'm struggling with, is any keyboard shortcuts.

I'm visually impaired, so I enjoy watching videos in full screen.  I can't find 
anyway to play/pause videos or get them in full screen.

Any help is appreciated.  I'm very new to chrome.

Thanks,
Traci
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Re: Change

[Marianne Denning]

I will see you when you get home from coaching.


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On Oct 3, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Mauricio Almeida  
wrote:

> you just caused spam by replying to an e-mail which was originally not spam.
> 
> enjoy learning to simply move to the next message.
> 
> Mauricio
> On Oct 2, 2012, at 5:34 AM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
> 
>> I really wish you guys would stop spamming the list! We get enough traffic 
>> on this list without receiving news letters about your company.
>> 
>> On Oct 1, 2012, at 7:00 AM, Scott Rumery  wrote:
>> 
 
 Delivering Access™ Newsletter
 
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 Apple Accessibility Consulting, Teaching and Support.
 
 Its not just the standard, its the foundation.
 
 Is this email not displaying correctly?
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 rights reserved. 
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 In this issue:
 *CHANGE
 *CALL TO ACTION
 *FIRM UPDATE
 *FROM THE BLOG
 *EMPOWERMENT QUOTE
 
 --
 Change
 
 There is a famous saying amongst successful individuals that goes “five 
 years from now you will be in the same place doing the same thing except 
 for the books you read and the people you meet”. Noticed I started the 
 sentence with successful individuals not your broke friend giving 
 financial advice or your dearly beloved sister giving you her expert 
 opinion on cooking when she burns everything she makes! Change is one of 
 the most hardest realities for a person to accept and technological 
 changes are even harder to cope with. 
 
 When you look at how long it took to go from a mostly analog world in the 
 80’s to this new digital age we are in now. It is astounding to muse over. 
 As a geek I couldn’t imagine not having the highest speed computer or 
 upgrading to faster internet connections when the changes came around. I 
 talked about computers and technology to anyone who would listen from a 
 young boy to well into my adult life and when I realized that people were 
 interested in the intriguing  conversation an was excited for me but they 
 wouldn’t embrace technology for themselves outside of their jobs. I knew 
 then that change was hard for most people. They wanted their phones to 
 continue to have buttons, They wanted cars to be easily fixed  not 
 computer centric and they wanted AT&T to continue to  be their long 
 distance provider for the rest of their lives. Another quote is “people 
 convinced against their will is of the same opinion still”
 
 Going back to my first sentence you will understand that success comes 
 from continuous learning and networking. If you want to be better at 
 budgeting, better with your spiritual life, your marriage, your family and 
 friends or just a better manager or leader. without reading and networking 
 you’ll forever flounder around trying to figure out how to be a better 
 person who lives life instead of just existing. Read more and meat more 
 people and change your life, your leadership and your business. 
 
 ---
 CALL TO ACTION
 
 As we get the right people on the bus and really form our social side of 
 our firm I’m just going to take this time out to thank you for supporting 
 our social efforts. We ask that you continue to gather your friends around 
 the camp fire and tell them stories about how great Fedora Outlier LLC is 
 and why the world should be following us on Twitter, Facebook and 
 subscribing to this newsletter. We are providing  the following promotion 
 to aid you in these efforts. Below is a contest you can join in on and win 
 a $30 iTunes gift card. The promotion is called the “Twit That Tweets” 
 iTunes Gift Card Giveaway. More info on this below...
 
 The Twit That Tweets iTunes Gift Card Giveaway
 
 You can win a $30 iTunes Gift Card just by following @fedora_outlier on 
 Twitter! The rules are very simple. Follow @fedora_outlier on Twitter 
 between now and November first and you’ll be in the drawing for a $30 
 iTunes gift card. 
 
 In addition to the iTunes gift card 3 lucky people will also win a copy of 
 the very first multi-media iBook accessible to the blind on mastering iOS.
 
 Everyone is eligible unless you work for the firm, have already followed 
 us in the past or have a problem with a virtually free gift card. Sighted 
 people are welcome and any family

Re: typing at fast speeds with the Alex voice ...

[Mark Baxter]

I apologize for the inaccuracy of my estimate?
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Re: typing at fast speeds with the Alex voice ...

[Chris]

You can do this in the VoiceOver Utility. Check the additional voice 
options in the voices tab of the speech category.



Christopher Hallsworth

On 03/10/2012 17:23, Traci wrote:

I use Samantha compact.

When I first got my Mac last year, I tried Alex for a month or so, but
couldn't get use to him.  It was one thing I missed from my windows
screen reader, being able to set different rates for keyboard, screen,
mouse.

If it was an option, I'd probably have Sam-Compact for keyboard, and
Alex for reading.

:)
Traci
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On Oct 3, 2012, at 9:15 AM, Mark Baxter mailto:markbaxte...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Why would anyone want to have a typing echo at all, unless one were
learning the keyboard for the first time?  In which case, the lag
won't really matter, as typing speed will be negligible.  For anyone
typing faster than 50-60 WPM, much less 120 or so which most people
type at, having typing echo set to anything other than nothing is just
annoying and inefficient.


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Re: typing at fast speeds with the Alex voice ...

[Alex Hall]

Not really. You can't change, for instance, the voice used in a say all command 
versus the voice used when reading line by line. Yes, you can change the voice 
for things like typing, content, menus, and so on, and you can set up 
activities to use voices in different apps, but there is no way to set the rate 
and voice for say all reading. If I missed it, please let me know.
On Oct 3, 2012, at 2:29 PM, Chris  wrote:

> You can do this in the VoiceOver Utility. Check the additional voice options 
> in the voices tab of the speech category.
> 
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> 
> On 03/10/2012 17:23, Traci wrote:
>> I use Samantha compact.
>> 
>> When I first got my Mac last year, I tried Alex for a month or so, but
>> couldn't get use to him.  It was one thing I missed from my windows
>> screen reader, being able to set different rates for keyboard, screen,
>> mouse.
>> 
>> If it was an option, I'd probably have Sam-Compact for keyboard, and
>> Alex for reading.
>> 
>> :)
>> Traci
>> Sent by Macbook Air Mail
>> 
>> On Oct 3, 2012, at 9:15 AM, Mark Baxter > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Why would anyone want to have a typing echo at all, unless one were
>>> learning the keyboard for the first time?  In which case, the lag
>>> won't really matter, as typing speed will be negligible.  For anyone
>>> typing faster than 50-60 WPM, much less 120 or so which most people
>>> type at, having typing echo set to anything other than nothing is just
>>> annoying and inefficient.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
>>> • AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
>>> • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com 
>>> • My home page:
>>> • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
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Apple ID Email Problem

[Jane]

This email address is apparently tied to another Apple ID I created a long time 
ago. How do I get rid of that ID and tie the address to the Apple ID I use now? 
I've long since lost the password for that old ID.

Jane


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IPhone/IPod to IPad 3rd Gen

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I just bought me an IPad 3rd generation!  I love this thing, but I have a 
couple a questions that are presenting me with a slight bit of trouble.


I always use the device in portret mode where by the lock sleep/power button 
is on the top right edge rim, then my volume buttons, and mute/lock rotation 
switch is on the the right hand side, with my home key in the bottom center.


What I am noticing, and I don't know if this is because I have more screen 
realistate than on the IPhone 4S, but if I hit an ajuster slider, say a 
volume control, or a combo box on a web page, etc. basically just an 
ajuster, if I 1 finger flick down, usually not always, but usually, it 
works, but one finger flicking up to increment the ajuster is not working. 
I wind up moving my Voiceover cursor focus away from the ajuster, and God 
knows where.  A perfect example a this was in settings/brightness and 
wallpaper.  I tried to turn the screen brightness up, as it was only at 30 
something percent, and seeing I have some vision, light, and color, I wanted 
it as bright as it could go.  I could move it down, but trying to move it up 
to 100% wouldn't work.  It kept jumping to other things on the screen.  It's 
almost like, when I put my finger on the screen, it's taking that initial 
contact on the screen as a one finger tap, which of course moves my focus. 
I then had to flick back to the slider, and try all over again.


I noticed if I put it in landscape mode, which I don't prefer, with the home 
key facing to the right, then try it, it works very consistently both up and 
down.  Yes, I am on I O S 6.  The person who I bought this thing from had 
already updated it before she gave it to me.


The other final question I have is dealing with the contacts app.  I see the 
list of contacts, and I do! understand the concept that on an IPad, unlike 
an IPod or IPhone, the screen is in a 2way split.  You have your main 
options going virtically down the left and then as you double tap them, the 
right portion reexpands with the appropriate content.  OK, I get that 
entirely, but what I am not quite seeing is why, I finally found the contact 
table index ajuster which looks like they've moved from the far right side 
to the far left side of the screen.  Anyway, I flicked down to B.  I then 
was looking for the last name Bloomgren.  I kept seeing things though like 
Amazon, or maybe Christy Meador, etc.  it's almost like it's skipping some 
of my contacts.  Do they not all go down the left hand side of the screen? 
Or, are the list of contacts in two different collumns, not one like on the 
IPhone.  I think that's what is confusing me, more than anything.  I don't 
understand the concept of how the contacts are arranged.


Any help is appreciated.

Chris.

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capslock vs. insert in laptop layout

[Lindsay Yazzolino]

Hi,

I have been using VMWare Fusion with JAWS in laptop layout
successfully for quite some time now, but am currently running into a
slight problem. I have remapped my right command key to insert, and
within JAWS settings configured
insert to serve as my JAWS key. The problem I'm encountering is that
the capslock and insert keys do not always behave the same way. For
instance insert+F9 and capsllock F9 does not perform the same
function. Will I need to establish another key mapping for capslock,
or has anyone found another, better solution? Thanks in advance!

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Re: capslock vs. insert in laptop layout

[Bart Bunting]

Hi,

The solution I use is to remap the capslock key to control in keyboard
preferences on the mac.  Then I use sharp keys to remap left control to
capslock in vmware.  I have tried using keyremap and PCKeyboardhack
to do this but have found it inixplicably unstable at times.

The setting is under modifier keys in keyboard preferences as far as I
remember.

This solution is rock solid as long as you are happy with the following
caveats:
- You no longer have a capslock key in mac.  I never used it anyway.
- You no longer have a left control in windows.  The right control works
  just fine.
- Left control in windows is also capslock.
- Capslock in vmware with jaws behaves as expected.

HTH

Bart

On Wed, 3 Oct 2012 18:03:11 -0400, Lindsay Yazzolino  
wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have been using VMWare Fusion with JAWS in laptop layout
> successfully for quite some time now, but am currently running into a
> slight problem. I have remapped my right command key to insert, and
> within JAWS settings configured
> insert to serve as my JAWS key. The problem I'm encountering is that
> the capslock and insert keys do not always behave the same way. For
> instance insert+F9 and capsllock F9 does not perform the same
> function. Will I need to establish another key mapping for capslock,
> or has anyone found another, better solution? Thanks in advance!
> 
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Re: Apple ID Email Problem

[Krysti .Power]

can you access the other email ?

On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Jane  wrote:

> This email address is apparently tied to another Apple ID I created a long
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> use now? I've long since lost the password for that old ID.
>
> Jane
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Bookshare books on the Mac

[Becky Knaub]

Hi All,
I am trying to download a book from Bookshare on my Mac and the xmls format is 
not working. Does anyone have any ideas or can any body tell me a good way to 
convert BRFs into actual words that VO can read or if not could anyone 
recommend a good daisy player that works well with ML?

Thanks,



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Re: Bookshare books on the Mac

[Buddy Brannan]

Hi,

For a DAISY player, try Olearia:
http://www.cucat.org/projects/olearia/

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> I am trying to download a book from Bookshare on my Mac and the xmls format 
> is not working. Does anyone have any ideas or can any body tell me a good way 
> to convert BRFs into actual words that VO can read or if not could anyone 
> recommend a good daisy player that works well with ML?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Becky
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Re: capslock vs. insert in laptop layout

[Esther]

Hi Lindsay and Bart,

First of all, the reason for the problem you and other VMWare Fusion Windows 
users encounter with remapping the caps lock key is that Apple modified the 
behavior of the caps lock key in 2007 to require that it be held down longer to 
prevent accidental activation.  The original knowledge base articles are not 
online (although they can be found by a search of the internet archive), but 
I'll quote a bit from what was originally available as article 306811, since I 
believe in substantiating my claims with original source material:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306811 (not available now)

Apple Keyboard (2007): Caps Lock modified to reduce accidental activation
Last Modified on: November 09, 2007
Article: 306811
Issue or symptom
Pushing the Caps Lock key on the aluminum Apple Keyboard may not immediately 
activate the Caps Lock function.

Products affected
Apple Keyboard (2007)
Apple Wireless Keyboard (2007)
Solution
The Caps Lock function has been modified to reduce accidental activation. The 
key must now be held down slightly longer in order to activate the Caps Lock 
function.

Keywords: ktech kybd kmosx4 kawk kmosx5

 This was a deliberate decision, which I think was made to accommodate 
individuals with motion disabilities, although I don't have a direct source to 
back up that conjecture.  I believe that this only affects the caps lock key 
used on the Mac directly under Mac OS X or through a virtual machine -- there 
should be no activation delays if you're using the caps lock key on a Mac 
keyboard in Bootcamp, because the Windows keyboard drivers don't have this 
delay.

Bart is referring to Eric Caron's posts and podcasts about using 
KeyRemap4MacBook and the PCKeyboardhack from the same source to both remap the 
caps lock key to act as the VO-keys (Control+Option) when pressed in 
combination with other keys.  The side bonus is that the caps lock key works as 
the JAWS insert key.  I'd guess possible reasons for the instability that Bart 
may have seen are: 1) the KeyRemap4MacBook and PCKeyboardhack configurations 
assume that no other key remapping software is being used at the same time.  
Generally people have handled the software remapping for Windows in the VM 
either by using Sharp Keys as a Windows registry hack or with the VMWare 
preferences settings.  I believe that Eric disabled his Sharp Keys 
configurations after moving to the KeyRemap4MacBook and PCKeyboardhack 
combination, and this may be the reason he has found this to be a stable 
configuration. There are other software applications that contain key remapping 
options that you may be running, and which could produce conflicts and 
instability. And I've routinely disabled all the Exposé key assignments in 
System Preferences, ever since the (visual-only) Exposé feature appeared in 
Leopard, so that their hardware F-key assignments don't produce conflicts. 2) 
The version of PCKeyboardhack that you download depends on which version of Mac 
OS X you're running.  This is probably not an issue if most users are on Lion 
or Mountain Lion, but you should be aware that there are different versions of 
the .dmg file for, say, Snow Leopard.  3)  The original description of the 
simplified revised procedure requires downloading the version 7.8.17 dmg file 
(not the default version) at the special link:
http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/files/KeyRemap4MacBook-7.8.17.dmg
4) It also requires checking the box   for "Change Caps Lock" as well as 
setting the keycode value to 110 in the PCKeyboardhack preference pane.

I'm not a JAWS or Windows user, so I can't check any of this directly.  I 
posted general instructions about using KeyRemap4MacBook on the mac-access list 
at the end of August, just before I had to go on extended travel with very 
limited internet access. Eric contacted the developer about the VO keys 
modification for caps lock and did a great job with his podcast and directions. 
 (Also, I implemented the changes using the developer's original instructions 
for modifying the preference panes to add a private xml file, rather than using 
the custom dmg.)

Bart's solution can works as long as you don't end up with conflicting key 
definitions among your various programs.  You can also disable KeyRemap4MacBook 
at any time without un-installing it by using the preference pane.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther
 

On Oct 3, 2012, at 12:28, Bart Bunting wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> The solution I use is to remap the capslock key to control in keyboard
> preferences on the mac.  Then I use sharp keys to remap left control to
> capslock in vmware.  I have tried using keyremap and PCKeyboardhack
> to do this but have found it inixplicably unstable at times.
> 
> The setting is under modifier keys in keyboard preferences as far as I
> remember.
> 
> This solution is rock solid as long as you are happy with the following
> caveats:
> - You no longer have a capslock key in mac.  I never used it anyway.
> - You n

Re: Apolagies To The List

[Pam Francis]

Hello, sir, with all due respect if you need to promote an iTunes gift card, 
there are business lists and other promotional list you can take advantage of 
without disturbing lists designed for user questions & feedback.

Pam Francis

On Oct 2, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Scott Rumery  wrote:

Hello,

I would like to apologize to those of you that I offended by sending out a 
promotion for an iTunes gift card that my company is doing.  It was not my 
intention to send out spam and for the record I do not think what I did is 
spam, but I have noticed that a couple of you on this list thought that I was 
spamming the list.

We at Fedora Outlier are simply trying to spread the word about about the 
company and I thought that I would post the announcement here so that those of 
you that would like to be in the drawing could follow us and then be entered.

I will refrain from sending this list any more announcements about Fedora 
Outlier in the future.

Again, please accept my sincerest apologies.

Scott

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new free music from Timothy Clark

[Timothy Clark Music]

hello - 
 I'm Timothy Clark. 
 I'm an up and coming christian artist. 
 new music from me. 
 oh, wait, stop. 
 see? it doesn't fit the list. 
 I am most likely taking this point a bit far but do you get the point? this 
isn't a music list or an ITunes gift card list but a list to discuss the mac. 
 hope this makes you understand where we are coming from. 
 if you have something to promote you set up a mailing list. 
 then you get people on them. point said. i digress. 
 let's get back to talking mac related stuff shall we? thanks. 
 
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/36165976/02%20-%20%20some%20day%20-%20Timothy%20Clark.mp3
 God Bless. 
 Timothy. 
 Your friend in the music industry  
 http://www.timothyclarkmusic.tumblr.com 
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Re: new free music from Timothy Clark

[Mauricio Almeida]

hello there,

I most certainly do understand that, and as a marketing person myself
i believe the action wasn't appropriat as the tendency is to draw some
people away from the business, not attract them in.
My only point on replying to steve was that since scott already
apologised, we shouldn't keep the discussion going.

thanks,

Mauricio

On 10/4/12, Timothy Clark Music  wrote:
> hello -
>  I'm Timothy Clark.
>  I'm an up and coming christian artist.
>  new music from me.
>  oh, wait, stop.
>  see? it doesn't fit the list.
>  I am most likely taking this point a bit far but do you get the point? this
> isn't a music list or an ITunes gift card list but a list to discuss the
> mac.
>  hope this makes you understand where we are coming from.
>  if you have something to promote you set up a mailing list.
>  then you get people on them. point said. i digress.
>  let's get back to talking mac related stuff shall we? thanks.
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/36165976/02%20-%20%20some%20day%20-%20Timothy%20Clark.mp3
> God Bless.
>  Timothy.
>  Your friend in the music industry
>  http://www.timothyclarkmusic.tumblr.com
>  7244011224
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Re: new free music from Timothy Clark

[Pam Francis]

Hi Timothy, I could not have said it better myself.

Pam Francis

On Oct 3, 2012, at 11:01 PM, Timothy Clark Music  
wrote:

hello - 
 I'm Timothy Clark. 
 I'm an up and coming christian artist. 
 new music from me. 
 oh, wait, stop. 
 see? it doesn't fit the list. 
 I am most likely taking this point a bit far but do you get the point? this 
isn't a music list or an ITunes gift card list but a list to discuss the mac. 
 hope this makes you understand where we are coming from. 
 if you have something to promote you set up a mailing list. 
 then you get people on them. point said. i digress. 
 let's get back to talking mac related stuff shall we? thanks. 
 
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/36165976/02%20-%20%20some%20day%20-%20Timothy%20Clark.mp3
 God Bless. 
 Timothy. 
 Your friend in the music industry  
 http://www.timothyclarkmusic.tumblr.com 
 7244011224

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Re: new free music from Timothy Clark

[Timothy Clark Music]

hello 
 i see your point but i did this in hopes he'll see it and get the point. 
 i'm no longer responding to messages from this thread. 
God Bless. 
 Timothy. 
 Your friend in the music industry  
 http://www.timothyclarkmusic.tumblr.com 
 7244011224

On Oct 4, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Pam Francis wrote:

> Hi Timothy, I could not have said it better myself.
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Oct 3, 2012, at 11:01 PM, Timothy Clark Music  
> wrote:
> 
> hello - 
>  I'm Timothy Clark. 
>  I'm an up and coming christian artist. 
>  new music from me. 
>  oh, wait, stop. 
>  see? it doesn't fit the list. 
>  I am most likely taking this point a bit far but do you get the point? this 
> isn't a music list or an ITunes gift card list but a list to discuss the mac. 
>  hope this makes you understand where we are coming from. 
>  if you have something to promote you set up a mailing list. 
>  then you get people on them. point said. i digress. 
>  let's get back to talking mac related stuff shall we? thanks. 
>  
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/36165976/02%20-%20%20some%20day%20-%20Timothy%20Clark.mp3
>  God Bless. 
>  Timothy. 
>  Your friend in the music industry  
>  http://www.timothyclarkmusic.tumblr.com 
>  7244011224
> 
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Re: described content on iTunes, plus purchasing questions

[Brian Fischler]

Hey guys, Just wanted to chime in here, as it really is ashame how
ignored we the blind are when it comes to described video. For
example, I have yet to find a Netflix title through Netflix streaming
offer descriptive video. Then again, I think that Netflix just
recently was pressured into providing the close captioning option for
their titles. Unfortunately, we the blind have such a weak lobby that
I don't see this as an option anytime soon. Considering that the 21st
Century Communications Accessibility Act went into effect on July 1,
and none of the blind organizations had a mention of this historic
legislation on their websites, not sure who we would even approach
about addressing this. From the little research that I have done
neither Netflix, nor Amazon, nor Itunes offers any of their content
with descriptive video. For now, I rely on the movie feeds through
Serotek and sitting at my computer. Of course, I have a mac, and have
to use chrome which seems to be the only browser that works with this
fantastic content. The only problem is there is no way to rewind or
fast forward the content, which is a problem, especially if you have a
prblem with a movie which happened to me once. Would love to hear I am
wrong on some of this, so please do let me know. Thanks

On Sep 28, 9:52 pm, Alex Hall  wrote:
> Hi all,
> Is there described content available on iTunes? If so, how does one find it 
> and how wide-spread is it?
>
> Second, a more general purchasing question. When one buys a movie or tv show 
> on iTunes, does one then own it for life, or is it a rental-like arrangement? 
> I know I own the songs I buy, but I am not sure about longer content with 
> different licensing like tv shows or movies. Thanks.
>
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com

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