Re: My FaceTime Window is Unresponsive
Hey Teresa, That is strange behavior and I just wanted to let you know I am not experiencing any of those issues. Besides the obvious of a restart and logging out of your iCloud and logging back in I can't help you. Good luck figuring it out. Will keep my ears open and let you know if I hear anything about this one. On Feb 26, 2014, at 1:48 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I've never used Facetime before, so I thought I'd poke around a bit. I assumed I had signed into it with the latest Os X update, and I got an email saying that my computer was using my Apple iD for Facetime. when I opened the window, I got the Window control buttons, but nothing else. When I found preferences in the Facetime menu, it was dimmed. where do I go from here? Thanks, teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: quality of music output when played from an iPod
My view is because of the speakers on the iPod Touch. To me they sound so tinny that it's hard to impossible to decipher what's in the music. Little to no bass and too much of the higher frequencies. Just my £0.02 worth. On 26 Feb 2014, at 01:13, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, Recently I have had occasion to compare the sound of my actual CDs juxtaposed with the imported versions of those same CDs played on the same speakers, but played from my 4th gen touch. There's a noticeable degradation in sound quality when the music is played from my ipod. Just wondering if others have noticed this, and what, if anything you've done to compensate? TIA, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Folder Action New Item Alert Now Works In Latest Mavericks Update
I get a no services apply message when I enter the services menu and all options are dimmed. Cheers Dave On 26 Feb 2014, at 02:10, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I'm happy to report that the folder actions script for notifying when a new item is downloaded now works properly. This is a wonderful little utility that Finder has. Basically, you find the folder you want, go to the finder menu, and choose services submenu, then folder actions setup. A dialog opens up and you can select the script you want to run when a particular action is done to a folder. I always liked being notified when a new item was placed in my downloads folder. Unfortunately, the script didn't work when Mavericks first came out. Now it does. :) Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OS10.9.2 is out!
Great. I will use web spots then. On 25 Feb 2014, at 11:54 pm, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: Hey all, Oh my God, I am so happy as Apple finally fixed the direction of web spots in safari. Yes, this was a minor issue but an odd one that always through me. Once again clicking VO command right bracket takes you down a page and clicking VO command left bracket takes you up the page to the web spots you have set. For those of you who do not use web spots I would highly suggest using them on sites you frequent a lot if there are parts of the page you want to jump around to quickly. It really will speed up your browsing. Thanks Apple nice job on this one. On Feb 25, 2014, at 2:57 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, There was a link in the info about the update that you could activate. Here it is in case you’re unable to locate anything: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT6114?viewlocale=en_USlocale=en_US Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Feb 25, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Where can you find the Voiceover-specific release notes? I only found a reference to “some Voiceover improvements”. Thanks, Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. On Feb 25, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: I don't use braille much, but one note in the update said they fixed some Handytech displays, among other Voiceover fixes. Hopefully your display is among the fixed. On Feb 25, 2014, at 2:42 PM, Maurice Mines maurice.mi...@gmail.com wrote: just realized I'm dictating this to the phone so some of it might not come out the way that it should. I hope this fixes the problem that some braille displays are having a when trying to use Bluetooth. But I guess not? Maybe sometime in my lifetime or sometime in the near future Apple will fix this? Oh well going to continue with USB braille don't want much non-fun. PS using the phone to dictate this so some of it might not exactly come out the way that it should. Sincerely, Maurice Mines. Student accessibility aid. Voicemail phone, 360-524-0791. Work/school email address, maurice.mi...@pcc.edu. On Feb 25, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Hi all, OS10.9.2 is here! Aside from Mail, Safari, security, FaceTime, and other small fixes and improvements, the release notes specifically state Voiceover fixes. We'll see what those are in the coming days. Brian, I hope this fixes some of your problems so you don't need the clean install. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you
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Re: OS10.9.2 is out!
I will probably get flamed for saying this, but i don't understand why it's so important to have conversation count first? I have to listen to the subject and other stuff in order to deem it interesting or uninteresting anyway so what does it matter where the conversation count is? What is it that i'm too stupid to understand? /Krister 25 feb 2014 kl. 21:21 skrev Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net: Yes, it is in the progress bar. One thing I notice right away is that apps tend to open a little more snappy than before, even on start up. Also, when you come across a conversation in mail, (assuming you have mail set up to display messages by conversation) the conversation message count is given first. Now, if only they would put the read or unread status right after it, now that would be sweet. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 25, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: I think it does, but I noticed it in the progress bar as I was updating. Teresa Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P. Feynman On Feb 25, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@googlemail.com wrote: Haven't performed the update yet myself but how do you know how big the file size is? Does it tell you before the update? On 25 Feb 2014, at 19:48, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: LOL more's the point. I wasn't paying exact attention to the download size, obviously. :) teresa The golden age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete graham On Feb 25, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Try 769MB, lol. Either way, yes, putting it on AC is a good idea. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OS10.9.2 is out!
So how does one read a four message conversation as I have it in standard view as I opened a message in mail, and tabbed, but although other messages were there, nothing happened. Kawal. On 26 Feb 2014, at 10:22 am, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: I will probably get flamed for saying this, but i don't understand why it's so important to have conversation count first? I have to listen to the subject and other stuff in order to deem it interesting or uninteresting anyway so what does it matter where the conversation count is? What is it that i'm too stupid to understand? /Krister 25 feb 2014 kl. 21:21 skrev Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net: Yes, it is in the progress bar. One thing I notice right away is that apps tend to open a little more snappy than before, even on start up. Also, when you come across a conversation in mail, (assuming you have mail set up to display messages by conversation) the conversation message count is given first. Now, if only they would put the read or unread status right after it, now that would be sweet. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 25, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: I think it does, but I noticed it in the progress bar as I was updating. Teresa Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P. Feynman On Feb 25, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@googlemail.com wrote: Haven't performed the update yet myself but how do you know how big the file size is? Does it tell you before the update? On 25 Feb 2014, at 19:48, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: LOL more's the point. I wasn't paying exact attention to the download size, obviously. :) teresa The golden age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete graham On Feb 25, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Try 769MB, lol. Either way, yes, putting it on AC is a good idea. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: The age old question of which braille display to get
I can sort of compare the brailliant to the focus. I've never actually seen a focus display, but I can definitely tell you that the Brailliant is much quieter - the focus uses the same sells as the PAC mate display, which is very noisy. The build quality is also better - aluminium body VS plastic, it's also thinner. As far as using it with Apple devices, I have no problems with it, not on OS X, not on iOS, or Windows. What it doesn't haves a joystick though, nor any whiz wheels. As far as screen reader support, OS X and iOS is plug and play. On Windows, JAWS already installs the focus drivers, so that's something you won't have to do. For the brailliant you will need to install them yourself, which just envollves running an EXE file. That having been said, I really suggest you don't buy JAWS. The new versions are really breaking features and FS is sadly not fixing bugs. For office productivity you can use a combination of NVDA and Window-eyes, which is now free for users of Office 2010 or newer. Both of them rely far more on the com interface of office rather than screen scraping which translates to a more stable experience and the fact that reading is way more accurate And of course, both support both the brailliant and focus. On 24 Feb 2014, at 03:07 am, Aimee Harwood awildh...@gmail.com wrote: Hello listers. I am trying to decide what braille display to get. I am going to get at least a 40 but am considering an 80. My main question to you is, those of you that use your displays for work, which is better? Can I use a 40 productively, or would I be better off with an 80? Next is the question about connectivity. I currently have all Apple products, but know that when I finally find an employer that will give me a chance, I will most likely will ,e using Windows and probably JAWS. Which display will keep my hands on the display more and reduce the amount of time going back and forth between display and keyboard? If I end up going with a 40 cell display, which one works more seamlessly with the iPhone, and MacBook Pro? Is there a display that can be paired with more than one device? Like with my Refreshabraille, I have to make sure my iPad is turned off if I want to use it with my iPhone, or I have to tell one device to forget it before I can use it with the other. Which displays can be supported and repaired in the United States? Is Freedom Scintific's maintenance agreement worth the price and worth choosing a Focus even if it isn't your favorite just to have the agreement? Here are the displays that I am considering I currently use a Refreshabraille and like the feel of the dots, like the keyboard, and like the joystick. With that in mind with all the other comments and concerns, which display would be a better fit for me? Brailliant BI VarioConnect Braille edge Focus Active Braille Feel free to make any other recommendations if I haven't listed one that you think would be a good fit. I am trying to get my hands on some of these but may not be able to get my hands on all of them. I have been reading a lot of archived messages and looking at sites where they are sold, but I still ckn't figure out which will be the best fit. Unfortunately people don't go to sites and give feedback. I really haven't found a lot of reviews online or on youtube. Any and all help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Aimee Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
How to Remove FaceTime Favourites
I can't work out how to remove contacts from the favourites table in FaceTime on the Mac. Pressing the edit button doesn't seem to do anything, neither does command delete, delete, VO-Shift-M, and physically control clicking the TrackPad. Any ideas? Thanks, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OS10.9.2 is out!
The conversation count is important for two reasons. Firstly, I may have already read the first message in the conversation, and would thus normally skip the thread if I didn't hear that there were more messages in the conversation. Thus, if the conversation count is read early I can know that new messages have arrived which might be worth reading. Secondly, if I hear the subject and preview and the message sounds uninteresting, I'd normally delete the message immediately. If, however, I knew that there were many messages in the conversation then I might be more interested in opening it to see what the later messages said. As for how to read the messages in a thread, first open the conversation, then stop interacting, then use VO and the arrow keys to move between the different messages. Cheers, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
a quick question about the bard mobile ap
Does anyone know I have figured out how to find books put them in my wish list but nott how to download them on the bard ap can someone tell me how it is done? Thanks Dana Skype and twitter ID's both the same djkitty73 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Folder Action New Item Alert Now Works In Latest Mavericks Update
Hi all I cannot get this to work. I select Folder Actions Setup but nothing happens when I click on it. Any ideas? On 26 Feb 2014, at 02:10, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I'm happy to report that the folder actions script for notifying when a new item is downloaded now works properly. This is a wonderful little utility that Finder has. Basically, you find the folder you want, go to the finder menu, and choose services submenu, then folder actions setup. A dialog opens up and you can select the script you want to run when a particular action is done to a folder. I always liked being notified when a new item was placed in my downloads folder. Unfortunately, the script didn't work when Mavericks first came out. Now it does. :) Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Mouse pointer in braille?
Hi I sometimes use my braille note apex as a braille display with my Mac. Can I see the mouse pointer in braille on my display? If so, can someone please tell me how? Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: a quick question about the bard mobile ap
Sure. Just go to your wish list on the app, then, when you find a book, double tap on it. You will get a doalog asking if you want to download the book. Answer yes to this. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 26, 2014, at 5:47 AM, Dana danano...@comcast.net wrote: Does anyone know I have figured out how to find books put them in my wish list but nott how to download them on the bard ap can someone tell me how it is done? Thanks Dana Skype and twitter ID's both the same djkitty73 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: The age old question of which braille display to get
Hi Amy, I haven't followed this thread closely, so my apologies if this has already been covered. Part of the difficulty in what you are asking is that to a large extent, this is a very subjective choice. What bothers me may not bother you. What you consider noisy, I may not. So it's difficult to anticipate what another person might like or dislike. That said, I don't know if this display was on your list, but I'd strongly suggest that you consider the Hims Braille Edge. To my thinking, the keys are very quiet. It works quite well with both my Mac and my iPhone. It has a Perkins keyboard, and you can do text entry from the display. It has 40 cells, and connects either via bluetooth or USB. I know one person who finds the keyboard set up awkward. I can see why he would say that, but personally I've gotten used to it, and don't even notice anymore. The big thing that I think puts this display ahead of all the rest is that it has a small, built-in word processor. this means, that if you want, you can read a book just using your display without having to use any other device. I use that feature constantly. It's also handy if you need to take notes in a meeting, jot down a note, or what have you. I prefer this when in a meeting, because it avoids the noise of the iphone or iPad and consequently the need for a headphone. the only other displays I know of with this feature are the HandyTech displays, which I would strongly recommend you stay away from If you're in the U.S., I had a horrible experience with the U.S. HandyTech dealer. I will never do business with him again, and would discourage other to avoid him. The other thing I dislike about the HandyTech products is that at least when I tried them, which was several years ago now, the file transfer between the display and computer was very kludgy and slow. The Hims Braille Edge just uses and SD card, so it's much easier to get files back and forth. It also has a built-in calendar and calculator, though I very rarely use that, as I typically perform those functions on my phone. If you're in the U.S. and you can swing it financially, I'd strongly suggest you go to the CSUN conference in San Diego, being held the week of March 17. they have a large exhibit hall, and you would be able to try out each display that you are considering directly. Just my $.02. Good luck! Best, Donna On Feb 25, 2014, at 10:55 PM, Aimee Harwood awildh...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Jonathan. I actually agree that the prices have come down a good bit. I am getting the display purchased for me, so I can go for the larger display if need be. I had hoped that you would have given me some of your wonderful insight on pros and cons of the displays that I had listed. I currently don't have any access to JAWS but may in the future. I spent the afternoon with the focus 40 connected to my iPad and used it to type some lengthy notes. To me it was a good bit noisier all the way around compared to my Refreshabraille. The keys were louder and the display changing pins around was louder as well. I had to get used to putting my pinkies back to work again. They don't have anything to do on my Refreshabraille. I did decide that the 40 cells will be better for me. It took me a bit to get used to having the space bar further away from my other fingers, but after a while it was pretty comfortable. So is there anyone that can from experience, give me some pros and coms of the displays I listed in my original message? If possible, please focus more on Apple products when giving those pros and coms. I really like to do a lot of research and comparing before a purchase is made so that I don't regret my choice down the road.I greatly appreciate everyones input so far. Aimee Sent from my iPhone On Feb 25, 2014, at 11:21 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: I think it's also important to remember that there has been downward pressure on Braille display prices over the last decade. In 2004, you'd be looking at at least $5,000 USD for a 40 cell display. Manufacturing processes have improved and you can now get a 40 cell display for $2800 USD. I realise that's still a lot of money and it would be good to see prices drop further if manufacturing costs allow, but when you take inflation into account, that's one massive reduction and manufacturers are not keeping the cost savings to themselves and making higher profits. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 25/02/2014, at 3:38 am, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there I don't think it's realistic for us to expect braille displays to go down that much in the foreseeable future. There's just not that many of us, relatively speaking, who need or want them. Even if braille once again became the hottest thing for us the way it should be, we're a
Re: Folder Action New Item Alert Now Works In Latest Mavericks Update
Hello! When I point to my downloads folder and then go to the finder services submenu, and choose folder action setup, the dialog doesn't open with either VO space, or enter. Are there scripts I need to install? You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 25, 2014, at 8:10 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I'm happy to report that the folder actions script for notifying when a new item is downloaded now works properly. This is a wonderful little utility that Finder has. Basically, you find the folder you want, go to the finder menu, and choose services submenu, then folder actions setup. A dialog opens up and you can select the script you want to run when a particular action is done to a folder. I always liked being notified when a new item was placed in my downloads folder. Unfortunately, the script didn't work when Mavericks first came out. Now it does. :) Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: quality of music output when played from an iPod
Hi Chris, I agree 100%. but in this case I'm actually listening on my regular stereo speakers, so the Touch speaker is irrelevant. Cheers, Donna On Feb 26, 2014, at 2:40 AM, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: My view is because of the speakers on the iPod Touch. To me they sound so tinny that it's hard to impossible to decipher what's in the music. Little to no bass and too much of the higher frequencies. Just my £0.02 worth. On 26 Feb 2014, at 01:13, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, Recently I have had occasion to compare the sound of my actual CDs juxtaposed with the imported versions of those same CDs played on the same speakers, but played from my 4th gen touch. There's a noticeable degradation in sound quality when the music is played from my ipod. Just wondering if others have noticed this, and what, if anything you've done to compensate? TIA, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OS10.9.2 is out!
Nic and all who use this method of conversation viewing. Once you've opened the message and use the VO keys to move through the messages in this latest update do you get the extra chatter from Voiceover where it will mention stuff like the email address the subject line again and other stuff I can't remember for now. Is there anyway to stop getting this extra chatter from Voiceover? Thanks Daniel On 26 Feb 2014, at 11:41, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: The conversation count is important for two reasons. Firstly, I may have already read the first message in the conversation, and would thus normally skip the thread if I didn't hear that there were more messages in the conversation. Thus, if the conversation count is read early I can know that new messages have arrived which might be worth reading. Secondly, if I hear the subject and preview and the message sounds uninteresting, I'd normally delete the message immediately. If, however, I knew that there were many messages in the conversation then I might be more interested in opening it to see what the later messages said. As for how to read the messages in a thread, first open the conversation, then stop interacting, then use VO and the arrow keys to move between the different messages. Cheers, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: My FaceTime Window is Unresponsive
That is exactly what happened to me as well. Eventually, I opened the contacts app, went to the contact I wanted to call, and activated the FaceTime button from there. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2014, at 1:48, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I’ve never used Facetime before, so I thought I’d poke around a bit. I assumed I had signed into it with the latest Os X update, and I got an email saying that my computer was using my Apple iD for Facetime. when I opened the window, I got the Window control buttons, but nothing else. When I found preferences in the Facetime menu, it was dimmed. where do I go from here? Thanks, teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OS10.9.2 is out!
I haven't heard voiceover give that extra chatter since I updated to the new version of mavericks. On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:46 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@googlemail.com wrote: Nic and all who use this method of conversation viewing. Once you've opened the message and use the VO keys to move through the messages in this latest update do you get the extra chatter from Voiceover where it will mention stuff like the email address the subject line again and other stuff I can't remember for now. Is there anyway to stop getting this extra chatter from Voiceover? Thanks Daniel On 26 Feb 2014, at 11:41, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: The conversation count is important for two reasons. Firstly, I may have already read the first message in the conversation, and would thus normally skip the thread if I didn't hear that there were more messages in the conversation. Thus, if the conversation count is read early I can know that new messages have arrived which might be worth reading. Secondly, if I hear the subject and preview and the message sounds uninteresting, I'd normally delete the message immediately. If, however, I knew that there were many messages in the conversation then I might be more interested in opening it to see what the later messages said. As for how to read the messages in a thread, first open the conversation, then stop interacting, then use VO and the arrow keys to move between the different messages. Cheers, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: My FaceTime Window is Unresponsive
Yesterday when I tried to start a FaceTime audio call yesterday I got a message saying FaceTime failed and a hang up sound. On Feb 26, 2014, at 7:10 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: That is exactly what happened to me as well. Eventually, I opened the contacts app, went to the contact I wanted to call, and activated the FaceTime button from there. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2014, at 1:48, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I've never used Facetime before, so I thought I'd poke around a bit. I assumed I had signed into it with the latest Os X update, and I got an email saying that my computer was using my Apple iD for Facetime. when I opened the window, I got the Window control buttons, but nothing else. When I found preferences in the Facetime menu, it was dimmed. where do I go from here? Thanks, teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Folder Action New Item Alert Now Works In Latest Mavericks Update
Oh great! You are having the same problem as me then. Regards Chris On 26/02/2014 12:27, Richard Ring wrote: Hello! When I point to my downloads folder and then go to the finder services submenu, and choose folder action setup, the dialog doesn't open with either VO space, or enter. Are there scripts I need to install? You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 25, 2014, at 8:10 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I'm happy to report that the folder actions script for notifying when a new item is downloaded now works properly. This is a wonderful little utility that Finder has. Basically, you find the folder you want, go to the finder menu, and choose services submenu, then folder actions setup. A dialog opens up and you can select the script you want to run when a particular action is done to a folder. I always liked being notified when a new item was placed in my downloads folder. Unfortunately, the script didn't work when Mavericks first came out. Now it does. :) Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: quality of music output when played from an iPod
Well I admit I didn't know what you meant by quality. Sorry about that. Regards Chris On 26/02/2014 12:27, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Chris, I agree 100%. but in this case I'm actually listening on my regular stereo speakers, so the Touch speaker is irrelevant. Cheers, Donna On Feb 26, 2014, at 2:40 AM, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: My view is because of the speakers on the iPod Touch. To me they sound so tinny that it's hard to impossible to decipher what's in the music. Little to no bass and too much of the higher frequencies. Just my £0.02 worth. On 26 Feb 2014, at 01:13, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, Recently I have had occasion to compare the sound of my actual CDs juxtaposed with the imported versions of those same CDs played on the same speakers, but played from my 4th gen touch. There's a noticeable degradation in sound quality when the music is played from my ipod. Just wondering if others have noticed this, and what, if anything you've done to compensate? TIA, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: How to Remove FaceTime Favourites
hi nick, you right. I can not to. cheers. Aquilo que os homens de facto querem não é o conhecimento, mas a certeza. Bertrand Russell Mario Navarro mario@gmail.com No dia 26/02/2014, às 11:36, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com escreveu: I can't work out how to remove contacts from the favourites table in FaceTime on the Mac. Pressing the edit button doesn't seem to do anything, neither does command delete, delete, VO-Shift-M, and physically control clicking the TrackPad. Any ideas? Thanks, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Folder Action New Item Alert Now Works In Latest Mavericks Update
hey, just letting you all know that mine seemed to work. it's the first time i have ever tried it. On 27 Feb 2014, at 12:16 am, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Oh great! You are having the same problem as me then. Regards Chris On 26/02/2014 12:27, Richard Ring wrote: Hello! When I point to my downloads folder and then go to the finder services submenu, and choose folder action setup, the dialog doesn't open with either VO space, or enter. Are there scripts I need to install? You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 25, 2014, at 8:10 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I'm happy to report that the folder actions script for notifying when a new item is downloaded now works properly. This is a wonderful little utility that Finder has. Basically, you find the folder you want, go to the finder menu, and choose services submenu, then folder actions setup. A dialog opens up and you can select the script you want to run when a particular action is done to a folder. I always liked being notified when a new item was placed in my downloads folder. Unfortunately, the script didn't work when Mavericks first came out. Now it does. :) Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OS10.9.2 is out!
I have. I opened a two-message conversation, stopped interacting once, and arrowed. VO read the sender, clicked five times, and only then read the message, just as it has done since the first version of Mavericks. On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:12 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't heard voiceover give that extra chatter since I updated to the new version of mavericks. On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:46 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@googlemail.com wrote: Nic and all who use this method of conversation viewing. Once you've opened the message and use the VO keys to move through the messages in this latest update do you get the extra chatter from Voiceover where it will mention stuff like the email address the subject line again and other stuff I can't remember for now. Is there anyway to stop getting this extra chatter from Voiceover? Thanks Daniel On 26 Feb 2014, at 11:41, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: The conversation count is important for two reasons. Firstly, I may have already read the first message in the conversation, and would thus normally skip the thread if I didn't hear that there were more messages in the conversation. Thus, if the conversation count is read early I can know that new messages have arrived which might be worth reading. Secondly, if I hear the subject and preview and the message sounds uninteresting, I'd normally delete the message immediately. If, however, I knew that there were many messages in the conversation then I might be more interested in opening it to see what the later messages said. As for how to read the messages in a thread, first open the conversation, then stop interacting, then use VO and the arrow keys to move between the different messages. Cheers, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OS10.9.2 is out!
cool, will be updating later tonight then or if not then sometime tomorrow. Looking forward to seeing how the new update works/performs. on my late 2011 13 inch Mac Book Pro. On 26 Feb 2014, at 13:12, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't heard voiceover give that extra chatter since I updated to the new version of mavericks. On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:46 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@googlemail.com wrote: Nic and all who use this method of conversation viewing. Once you've opened the message and use the VO keys to move through the messages in this latest update do you get the extra chatter from Voiceover where it will mention stuff like the email address the subject line again and other stuff I can't remember for now. Is there anyway to stop getting this extra chatter from Voiceover? Thanks Daniel On 26 Feb 2014, at 11:41, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: The conversation count is important for two reasons. Firstly, I may have already read the first message in the conversation, and would thus normally skip the thread if I didn't hear that there were more messages in the conversation. Thus, if the conversation count is read early I can know that new messages have arrived which might be worth reading. Secondly, if I hear the subject and preview and the message sounds uninteresting, I'd normally delete the message immediately. If, however, I knew that there were many messages in the conversation then I might be more interested in opening it to see what the later messages said. As for how to read the messages in a thread, first open the conversation, then stop interacting, then use VO and the arrow keys to move between the different messages. Cheers, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OS10.9.2 is out!
Oh that's disappointing to hear. Alex, just saw your message after I sent mine. So wasn't this happening before Mavericks then? Daniel On 26 Feb 2014, at 13:37, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: I have. I opened a two-message conversation, stopped interacting once, and arrowed. VO read the sender, clicked five times, and only then read the message, just as it has done since the first version of Mavericks. On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:12 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't heard voiceover give that extra chatter since I updated to the new version of mavericks. On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:46 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@googlemail.com wrote: Nic and all who use this method of conversation viewing. Once you've opened the message and use the VO keys to move through the messages in this latest update do you get the extra chatter from Voiceover where it will mention stuff like the email address the subject line again and other stuff I can't remember for now. Is there anyway to stop getting this extra chatter from Voiceover? Thanks Daniel On 26 Feb 2014, at 11:41, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: The conversation count is important for two reasons. Firstly, I may have already read the first message in the conversation, and would thus normally skip the thread if I didn't hear that there were more messages in the conversation. Thus, if the conversation count is read early I can know that new messages have arrived which might be worth reading. Secondly, if I hear the subject and preview and the message sounds uninteresting, I'd normally delete the message immediately. If, however, I knew that there were many messages in the conversation then I might be more interested in opening it to see what the later messages said. As for how to read the messages in a thread, first open the conversation, then stop interacting, then use VO and the arrow keys to move between the different messages. Cheers, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: a quick question about the bard mobile ap
Something I was curious about with that app; the article claimed when it first came out, that you could transfer your existing books to the app via itunes, but I can't figure out for the life of me how to do this. Has anyone else been able to do this? I don't want to have to redownload the same books again, which can take a while, and if I'm pressed for time, that can get annoying, so if anyone has some tips, I'd really appreciate it. On Feb 26, 2014, at 7:18 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Sure. Just go to your wish list on the app, then, when you find a book, double tap on it. You will get a doalog asking if you want to download the book. Answer yes to this. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 26, 2014, at 5:47 AM, Dana danano...@comcast.net wrote: Does anyone know I have figured out how to find books put them in my wish list but nott how to download them on the bard ap can someone tell me how it is done? Thanks Dana Skype and twitter ID's both the same djkitty73 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OS10.9.2 is out!
I have n Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:40 AM,not heard any of the extra stuff either.Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@googlemail.com wrote: cool, will be updating later tonight then or if not then sometime tomorrow. Looking forward to seeing how the new update works/performs. on my late 2011 13 inch Mac Book Pro. On 26 Feb 2014, at 13:12, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't heard voiceover give that extra chatter since I updated to the new version of mavericks. On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:46 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@googlemail.com wrote: Nic and all who use this method of conversation viewing. Once you've opened the message and use the VO keys to move through the messages in this latest update do you get the extra chatter from Voiceover where it will mention stuff like the email address the subject line again and other stuff I can't remember for now. Is there anyway to stop getting this extra chatter from Voiceover? Thanks Daniel On 26 Feb 2014, at 11:41, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: The conversation count is important for two reasons. Firstly, I may have already read the first message in the conversation, and would thus normally skip the thread if I didn't hear that there were more messages in the conversation. Thus, if the conversation count is read early I can know that new messages have arrived which might be worth reading. Secondly, if I hear the subject and preview and the message sounds uninteresting, I'd normally delete the message immediately. If, however, I knew that there were many messages in the conversation then I might be more interested in opening it to see what the later messages said. As for how to read the messages in a thread, first open the conversation, then stop interacting, then use VO and the arrow keys to move between the different messages. Cheers, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OS10.9.2 is out!
I have updated last night and the update works great. On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:07 AM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote: I have n Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:40 AM,not heard any of the extra stuff either.Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@googlemail.com wrote: cool, will be updating later tonight then or if not then sometime tomorrow. Looking forward to seeing how the new update works/performs. on my late 2011 13 inch Mac Book Pro. On 26 Feb 2014, at 13:12, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't heard voiceover give that extra chatter since I updated to the new version of mavericks. On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:46 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@googlemail.com wrote: Nic and all who use this method of conversation viewing. Once you've opened the message and use the VO keys to move through the messages in this latest update do you get the extra chatter from Voiceover where it will mention stuff like the email address the subject line again and other stuff I can't remember for now. Is there anyway to stop getting this extra chatter from Voiceover? Thanks Daniel On 26 Feb 2014, at 11:41, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: The conversation count is important for two reasons. Firstly, I may have already read the first message in the conversation, and would thus normally skip the thread if I didn't hear that there were more messages in the conversation. Thus, if the conversation count is read early I can know that new messages have arrived which might be worth reading. Secondly, if I hear the subject and preview and the message sounds uninteresting, I'd normally delete the message immediately. If, however, I knew that there were many messages in the conversation then I might be more interested in opening it to see what the later messages said. As for how to read the messages in a thread, first open the conversation, then stop interacting, then use VO and the arrow keys to move between the different messages. Cheers, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OS10.9.2 is out!
Hello all, I installed the update last night and it is really awesome. I find it faster when going through my applications folder on my MacBook Pro 09 model. It used to be slow going through it with quick nag on, but not anymore. Have a great day, and smile on. Regards, Portia. On Feb 25, 2014, at 11:43 AM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Can you explain the issues? On Feb 25, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Maurice Mines maurice.mi...@gmail.com wrote: just realized I'm dictating this to the phone so some of it might not come out the way that it should. I hope this fixes the problem that some braille displays are having a when trying to use Bluetooth. But I guess not? Maybe sometime in my lifetime or sometime in the near future Apple will fix this? Oh well going to continue with USB braille don't want much non-fun. PS using the phone to dictate this so some of it might not exactly come out the way that it should. Sincerely, Maurice Mines. Student accessibility aid. Voicemail phone, 360-524-0791. Work/school email address, maurice.mi...@pcc.edu. On Feb 25, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Hi all, OS10.9.2 is here! Aside from Mail, Safari, security, FaceTime, and other small fixes and improvements, the release notes specifically state Voiceover fixes. We'll see what those are in the coming days. Brian, I hope this fixes some of your problems so you don't need the clean install. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OS10.9.2 is out!
The only problem I am having is making FaceTime audio calls other then that the update process was a smooth and successful process. On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:13 AM, Portia Scott portia.sc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I installed the update last night and it is really awesome. I find it faster when going through my applications folder on my MacBook Pro 09 model. It used to be slow going through it with quick nag on, but not anymore. Have a great day, and smile on. Regards, Portia. On Feb 25, 2014, at 11:43 AM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Can you explain the issues? On Feb 25, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Maurice Mines maurice.mi...@gmail.com wrote: just realized I'm dictating this to the phone so some of it might not come out the way that it should. I hope this fixes the problem that some braille displays are having a when trying to use Bluetooth. But I guess not? Maybe sometime in my lifetime or sometime in the near future Apple will fix this? Oh well going to continue with USB braille don't want much non-fun. PS using the phone to dictate this so some of it might not exactly come out the way that it should. Sincerely, Maurice Mines. Student accessibility aid. Voicemail phone, 360-524-0791. Work/school email address, maurice.mi...@pcc.edu. On Feb 25, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Hi all, OS10.9.2 is here! Aside from Mail, Safari, security, FaceTime, and other small fixes and improvements, the release notes specifically state Voiceover fixes. We'll see what those are in the coming days. Brian, I hope this fixes some of your problems so you don't need the clean install. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: PDF documents and filling in PDF forms.
I never knew you could open PDFs in TextEdit. that's cool. I'll need to try this as I still have one Mac running Mountain Lion. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OS10.9.2 is out!
My way of reading messages in a thread is to hit return when I hear the subject and backspace to delete each one, no interacting, no nothing. I never interact in mail apart from when I move to the folder list, which I have shown, with shift-tab Cheers Dave On 26 Feb 2014, at 11:41, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: The conversation count is important for two reasons. Firstly, I may have already read the first message in the conversation, and would thus normally skip the thread if I didn't hear that there were more messages in the conversation. Thus, if the conversation count is read early I can know that new messages have arrived which might be worth reading. Secondly, if I hear the subject and preview and the message sounds uninteresting, I'd normally delete the message immediately. If, however, I knew that there were many messages in the conversation then I might be more interested in opening it to see what the later messages said. As for how to read the messages in a thread, first open the conversation, then stop interacting, then use VO and the arrow keys to move between the different messages. Cheers, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OS10.9.2 is out!
The chatter I get is the word imbedded, the sender's name and email address, then the word imbedded repeated twice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OS10.9.2 is out!
Have you tried pressing vo j or control option j to interact with the text of the message?On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:41 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: The chatter I get is the word imbedded, the sender's name and email address, then the word imbedded repeated twice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
new mac user please help
Hi everyone, so I finally took the big dive and got my new iMac and of course coming from the world of windows I'm totally lost. However I am also excited to learn something new. I did purchase apple care and I also belong to this great list so these options should help, and even though I feel like I'm at the bottom of a huge mountain with the peak no where in sight I'm looking forward to climbing and exploring this new mountain. The first thing I did is the voiceover tutorial and that helped a little. My first questions that I need help with is as follows. One of the reasons I went with Mac is because apple offers voiceover in other languages and one of those languages is my native tongue. I've downloaded the voice that is assigned to my native tongue which is Greek. I have also added the keyboard input source of Greek, up until this point everything is okay. I figured out that to change the keyboard layout from Canadian English to Greek the hotkey is command spacebar, again great it works. Heres where the first problem comes in. when I open the notes from the doc and I start typing everything is okay, but when I press command spacebar to switch to the Greek voiceover says spot light search, it types in Greek but not in the body of the document and of course when I press enter it takes me to the internet. Can anyone help. I thought about trying it out on pages which is listed in the doc but I don't think I have pages even though its listed in the doc. The second problem is I can't find a hotkey for switching voices/languages with a hotkey. Does anyone know how I can do this using the keyboard? I don't want to always want to half to open the voiceover utility or system preferences just to switch voices or languages, I'm assuming and hoping there is a hotkey for this action. Of course I have a thousand more questions but let's start with these, and hopefully someone can help me with this before I move to something else. I would appreciate any help and advice. Thanks in advance, Your friendly neighbourhood lister and new Mac user, Zoe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: new mac user please help
Hello there welcome to the world of the mac. First you probably would want to go through the voiceover quick start to do that press control option command function f 8 to open it then use you're left and right arrows to move forward and back through the quick start guide. The quick start will get you started with how to use voiceover such as using it to interact with tables and other basic voiceover commands you will need to use the mac. On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:48 AM, Zoe Fiogkos fiog...@rogers.com wrote: Hi everyone, so I finally took the big dive and got my new iMac and of course coming from the world of windows I'm totally lost. However I am also excited to learn something new. I did purchase apple care and I also belong to this great list so these options should help, and even though I feel like I'm at the bottom of a huge mountain with the peak no where in sight I'm looking forward to climbing and exploring this new mountain. The first thing I did is the voiceover tutorial and that helped a little. My first questions that I need help with is as follows. One of the reasons I went with Mac is because apple offers voiceover in other languages and one of those languages is my native tongue. I've downloaded the voice that is assigned to my native tongue which is Greek. I have also added the keyboard input source of Greek, up until this point everything is okay. I figured out that to change the keyboard layout from Canadian English to Greek the hotkey is command spacebar, again great it works. Heres where the first problem comes in. when I open the notes from the doc and I start typing everything is okay, but when I press command spacebar to switch to the Greek voiceover says spot light search, it types in Greek but not in the body of the document and of course when I press enter it takes me to the internet. Can anyone help. I thought about trying it out on pages which is listed in the doc but I don't think I have pages even though its listed in the doc. The second problem is I can't find a hotkey for switching voices/languages with a hotkey. Does anyone know how I can do this using the keyboard? I don't want to always want to half to open the voiceover utility or system preferences just to switch voices or languages, I'm assuming and hoping there is a hotkey for this action. Of course I have a thousand more questions but let's start with these, and hopefully someone can help me with this before I move to something else. I would appreciate any help and advice. Thanks in advance, Your friendly neighbourhood lister and new Mac user, Zoe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: new mac user please help
To switch voices press control option command left arrow and right arrow and use the up and arrows to to make ajustments. On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:48 AM, Zoe Fiogkos fiog...@rogers.com wrote: Hi everyone, so I finally took the big dive and got my new iMac and of course coming from the world of windows I'm totally lost. However I am also excited to learn something new. I did purchase apple care and I also belong to this great list so these options should help, and even though I feel like I'm at the bottom of a huge mountain with the peak no where in sight I'm looking forward to climbing and exploring this new mountain. The first thing I did is the voiceover tutorial and that helped a little. My first questions that I need help with is as follows. One of the reasons I went with Mac is because apple offers voiceover in other languages and one of those languages is my native tongue. I've downloaded the voice that is assigned to my native tongue which is Greek. I have also added the keyboard input source of Greek, up until this point everything is okay. I figured out that to change the keyboard layout from Canadian English to Greek the hotkey is command spacebar, again great it works. Heres where the first problem comes in. when I open the notes from the doc and I start typing everything is okay, but when I press command spacebar to switch to the Greek voiceover says spot light search, it types in Greek but not in the body of the document and of course when I press enter it takes me to the internet. Can anyone help. I thought about trying it out on pages which is listed in the doc but I don't think I have pages even though its listed in the doc. The second problem is I can't find a hotkey for switching voices/languages with a hotkey. Does anyone know how I can do this using the keyboard? I don't want to always want to half to open the voiceover utility or system preferences just to switch voices or languages, I'm assuming and hoping there is a hotkey for this action. Of course I have a thousand more questions but let's start with these, and hopefully someone can help me with this before I move to something else. I would appreciate any help and advice. Thanks in advance, Your friendly neighbourhood lister and new Mac user, Zoe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: First thoughts 10.9.2 much improved for VoiceOver
Hi there Yes, and I am thankful that Finder is behaving itself better. I figured out some work arounds before, but this is so much better. Regards, Gigi On Feb 26, 2014, at 12:39 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: After using the latest updates for a few hours and having the computer go to sleep I have to give Apple a big pat on the back for this update and VoiceOver improvements. I know on 10.9.1 not all of us were having serious problems, I think I had one of the worst experiences, and since the 10.9.2 update it's like having a new computer. So weird. I still notice some sluggishness between switching apps, but so far everything for me is improved except being able to get my Logitech k760 to work. The email experience is back to be good as messages are opening quickly and loading in classic view of mail, safari seems to be opening on the appropriate pages instead of landing me in the toolbar, and so far the contextual menu works in iTuens. So thanks Apple and hopefully they will continue with making VoiceOver improvements. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: The age old question of which braille display to get
Thank you Piotr! This is the kind of thing I'm looking for. I have a Brailliant demo coming to the A T center hopefully Friday. Another thing I am considering is if I should keep my refreshabraille. My purse is big enough to Cary a 40 cell display and I already Cary my iPad in its zagfolio so I'm used to the bulk. Any thoughts on if it is worth having both? Aimee Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2014, at 5:49 AM, Piotr Machacz piterm...@gmail.com wrote: I can sort of compare the brailliant to the focus. I've never actually seen a focus display, but I can definitely tell you that the Brailliant is much quieter - the focus uses the same sells as the PAC mate display, which is very noisy. The build quality is also better - aluminium body VS plastic, it's also thinner. As far as using it with Apple devices, I have no problems with it, not on OS X, not on iOS, or Windows. What it doesn't haves a joystick though, nor any whiz wheels. As far as screen reader support, OS X and iOS is plug and play. On Windows, JAWS already installs the focus drivers, so that's something you won't have to do. For the brailliant you will need to install them yourself, which just envollves running an EXE file. That having been said, I really suggest you don't buy JAWS. The new versions are really breaking features and FS is sadly not fixing bugs. For office productivity you can use a combination of NVDA and Window-eyes, which is now free for users of Office 2010 or newer. Both of them rely far more on the com interface of office rather than screen scraping which translates to a more stable experience and the fact that reading is way more accurate And of course, both support both the brailliant and focus. On 24 Feb 2014, at 03:07 am, Aimee Harwood awildh...@gmail.com wrote: Hello listers. I am trying to decide what braille display to get. I am going to get at least a 40 but am considering an 80. My main question to you is, those of you that use your displays for work, which is better? Can I use a 40 productively, or would I be better off with an 80? Next is the question about connectivity. I currently have all Apple products, but know that when I finally find an employer that will give me a chance, I will most likely will ,e using Windows and probably JAWS. Which display will keep my hands on the display more and reduce the amount of time going back and forth between display and keyboard? If I end up going with a 40 cell display, which one works more seamlessly with the iPhone, and MacBook Pro? Is there a display that can be paired with more than one device? Like with my Refreshabraille, I have to make sure my iPad is turned off if I want to use it with my iPhone, or I have to tell one device to forget it before I can use it with the other. Which displays can be supported and repaired in the United States? Is Freedom Scintific's maintenance agreement worth the price and worth choosing a Focus even if it isn't your favorite just to have the agreement? Here are the displays that I am considering I currently use a Refreshabraille and like the feel of the dots, like the keyboard, and like the joystick. With that in mind with all the other comments and concerns, which display would be a better fit for me? Brailliant BI VarioConnect Braille edge Focus Active Braille Feel free to make any other recommendations if I haven't listed one that you think would be a good fit. I am trying to get my hands on some of these but may not be able to get my hands on all of them. I have been reading a lot of archived messages and looking at sites where they are sold, but I still ckn't figure out which will be the best fit. Unfortunately people don't go to sites and give feedback. I really haven't found a lot of reviews online or on youtube. Any and all help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Aimee Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and
Re: The age old question of which braille display to get
Hi there I just bought a 14-cell display because you don't always need the 40 cells when using a computer. You can switch back and forth, depending on the activity you are doing and whether it benefits you to carry less bulk at times. The iPad and that little display together would give you a less bulky option if you need it. It sounds like what you need is the most flexibility you can get right now so that if your job opportunities change you can better go with it. You may be used to the bulk now, but ou may find that it's beneficial later to have less bulk from time to time so that you run with the flow on your job. Regards, Gigi On Feb 26, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Aimee Harwood awildh...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Piotr! This is the kind of thing I'm looking for. I have a Brailliant demo coming to the A T center hopefully Friday. Another thing I am considering is if I should keep my refreshabraille. My purse is big enough to Cary a 40 cell display and I already Cary my iPad in its zagfolio so I'm used to the bulk. Any thoughts on if it is worth having both? Aimee Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2014, at 5:49 AM, Piotr Machacz piterm...@gmail.com wrote: I can sort of compare the brailliant to the focus. I've never actually seen a focus display, but I can definitely tell you that the Brailliant is much quieter - the focus uses the same sells as the PAC mate display, which is very noisy. The build quality is also better - aluminium body VS plastic, it's also thinner. As far as using it with Apple devices, I have no problems with it, not on OS X, not on iOS, or Windows. What it doesn't haves a joystick though, nor any whiz wheels. As far as screen reader support, OS X and iOS is plug and play. On Windows, JAWS already installs the focus drivers, so that's something you won't have to do. For the brailliant you will need to install them yourself, which just envollves running an EXE file. That having been said, I really suggest you don't buy JAWS. The new versions are really breaking features and FS is sadly not fixing bugs. For office productivity you can use a combination of NVDA and Window-eyes, which is now free for users of Office 2010 or newer. Both of them rely far more on the com interface of office rather than screen scraping which translates to a more stable experience and the fact that reading is way more accurate And of course, both support both the brailliant and focus. On 24 Feb 2014, at 03:07 am, Aimee Harwood awildh...@gmail.com wrote: Hello listers. I am trying to decide what braille display to get. I am going to get at least a 40 but am considering an 80. My main question to you is, those of you that use your displays for work, which is better? Can I use a 40 productively, or would I be better off with an 80? Next is the question about connectivity. I currently have all Apple products, but know that when I finally find an employer that will give me a chance, I will most likely will ,e using Windows and probably JAWS. Which display will keep my hands on the display more and reduce the amount of time going back and forth between display and keyboard? If I end up going with a 40 cell display, which one works more seamlessly with the iPhone, and MacBook Pro? Is there a display that can be paired with more than one device? Like with my Refreshabraille, I have to make sure my iPad is turned off if I want to use it with my iPhone, or I have to tell one device to forget it before I can use it with the other. Which displays can be supported and repaired in the United States? Is Freedom Scintific's maintenance agreement worth the price and worth choosing a Focus even if it isn't your favorite just to have the agreement? Here are the displays that I am considering I currently use a Refreshabraille and like the feel of the dots, like the keyboard, and like the joystick. With that in mind with all the other comments and concerns, which display would be a better fit for me? Brailliant BI VarioConnect Braille edge Focus Active Braille Feel free to make any other recommendations if I haven't listed one that you think would be a good fit. I am trying to get my hands on some of these but may not be able to get my hands on all of them. I have been reading a lot of archived messages and looking at sites where they are sold, but I still ckn't figure out which will be the best fit. Unfortunately people don't go to sites and give feedback. I really haven't found a lot of reviews online or on youtube. Any and all help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Aimee Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
Re: The age old question of which braille display to get
Hi Amy, The only other thing I may add is the feel of the braille cells under your fingers. All braille displays have a disstinct feel to them. I have not investted in a dedicated braille display because I have a Braille Note 32, which meets my needs as a braille display. With JAWS 15 (latest built) there are more driver support included in the software. So, you may want to take a look at the list before purchasing if the braille display is supported without going the extra step. HTH. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2014, at 7:00 AM, Aimee Harwood awildh...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Piotr! This is the kind of thing I'm looking for. I have a Brailliant demo coming to the A T center hopefully Friday. Another thing I am considering is if I should keep my refreshabraille. My purse is big enough to Cary a 40 cell display and I already Cary my iPad in its zagfolio so I'm used to the bulk. Any thoughts on if it is worth having both? Aimee Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2014, at 5:49 AM, Piotr Machacz piterm...@gmail.com wrote: I can sort of compare the brailliant to the focus. I've never actually seen a focus display, but I can definitely tell you that the Brailliant is much quieter - the focus uses the same sells as the PAC mate display, which is very noisy. The build quality is also better - aluminium body VS plastic, it's also thinner. As far as using it with Apple devices, I have no problems with it, not on OS X, not on iOS, or Windows. What it doesn't haves a joystick though, nor any whiz wheels. As far as screen reader support, OS X and iOS is plug and play. On Windows, JAWS already installs the focus drivers, so that's something you won't have to do. For the brailliant you will need to install them yourself, which just envollves running an EXE file. That having been said, I really suggest you don't buy JAWS. The new versions are really breaking features and FS is sadly not fixing bugs. For office productivity you can use a combination of NVDA and Window-eyes, which is now free for users of Office 2010 or newer. Both of them rely far more on the com interface of office rather than screen scraping which translates to a more stable experience and the fact that reading is way more accurate And of course, both support both the brailliant and focus. On 24 Feb 2014, at 03:07 am, Aimee Harwood awildh...@gmail.com wrote: Hello listers. I am trying to decide what braille display to get. I am going to get at least a 40 but am considering an 80. My main question to you is, those of you that use your displays for work, which is better? Can I use a 40 productively, or would I be better off with an 80? Next is the question about connectivity. I currently have all Apple products, but know that when I finally find an employer that will give me a chance, I will most likely will ,e using Windows and probably JAWS. Which display will keep my hands on the display more and reduce the amount of time going back and forth between display and keyboard? If I end up going with a 40 cell display, which one works more seamlessly with the iPhone, and MacBook Pro? Is there a display that can be paired with more than one device? Like with my Refreshabraille, I have to make sure my iPad is turned off if I want to use it with my iPhone, or I have to tell one device to forget it before I can use it with the other. Which displays can be supported and repaired in the United States? Is Freedom Scintific's maintenance agreement worth the price and worth choosing a Focus even if it isn't your favorite just to have the agreement? Here are the displays that I am considering I currently use a Refreshabraille and like the feel of the dots, like the keyboard, and like the joystick. With that in mind with all the other comments and concerns, which display would be a better fit for me? Brailliant BI VarioConnect Braille edge Focus Active Braille Feel free to make any other recommendations if I haven't listed one that you think would be a good fit. I am trying to get my hands on some of these but may not be able to get my hands on all of them. I have been reading a lot of archived messages and looking at sites where they are sold, but I still ckn't figure out which will be the best fit. Unfortunately people don't go to sites and give feedback. I really haven't found a lot of reviews online or on youtube. Any and all help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Aimee Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit
RE: new mac user please help
I will try this option and let you all know how it works. Also you mentioned the quickstart voiceover tutorial and yes I did this and it has helped a little. Of course I have a lot of knew keyboard commands to memorize and it will take a while. Thank you for your help. Will try your recommendation soon. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of isaac Sent: February-26-14 9:56 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: new mac user please help To switch voices press control option command left arrow and right arrow and use the up and arrows to to make ajustments. On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:48 AM, Zoe Fiogkos fiog...@rogers.com wrote: Hi everyone, so I finally took the big dive and got my new iMac and of course coming from the world of windows I'm totally lost. However I am also excited to learn something new. I did purchase apple care and I also belong to this great list so these options should help, and even though I feel like I'm at the bottom of a huge mountain with the peak no where in sight I'm looking forward to climbing and exploring this new mountain. The first thing I did is the voiceover tutorial and that helped a little. My first questions that I need help with is as follows. One of the reasons I went with Mac is because apple offers voiceover in other languages and one of those languages is my native tongue. I've downloaded the voice that is assigned to my native tongue which is Greek. I have also added the keyboard input source of Greek, up until this point everything is okay. I figured out that to change the keyboard layout from Canadian English to Greek the hotkey is command spacebar, again great it works. Heres where the first problem comes in. when I open the notes from the doc and I start typing everything is okay, but when I press command spacebar to switch to the Greek voiceover says spot light search, it types in Greek but not in the body of the document and of course when I press enter it takes me to the internet. Can anyone help. I thought about trying it out on pages which is listed in the doc but I don't think I have pages even though its listed in the doc. The second problem is I can't find a hotkey for switching voices/languages with a hotkey. Does anyone know how I can do this using the keyboard? I don't want to always want to half to open the voiceover utility or system preferences just to switch voices or languages, I'm assuming and hoping there is a hotkey for this action. Of course I have a thousand more questions but let's start with these, and hopefully someone can help me with this before I move to something else. I would appreciate any help and advice. Thanks in advance, Your friendly neighbourhood lister and new Mac user, Zoe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: new mac user please help
Hello Zoe, To get rid of the conflict between new keyboard layout and Spotlight search, open System Preferences and go to the Keyboard pane. Select Shortcuts tab, 3 of 4, then navigate right to the Shortcuts categories table and interact with it. Navigate down to Spotlight. Stop interacting with that table and navigate right to the next one which will say Spotlight shortcuts table. Interact and uncheck the check box for Show Spotlight search field ⌘Space. Cheers, Anne On 26 Feb 2014, at 15:48, Zoe Fiogkos fiog...@rogers.com wrote: Hi everyone, so I finally took the big dive and got my new iMac and of course coming from the world of windows I’m totally lost. However I am also excited to learn something new. I did purchase apple care and I also belong to this great list so these options should help, and even though I feel like I’m at the bottom of a huge mountain with the peak no where in sight I’m looking forward to climbing and exploring this new mountain. The first thing I did is the voiceover tutorial and that helped a little. My first questions that I need help with is as follows. One of the reasons I went with Mac is because apple offers voiceover in other languages and one of those languages is my native tongue. I’ve downloaded the voice that is assigned to my native tongue which is Greek. I have also added the keyboard input source of Greek, up until this point everything is okay. I figured out that to change the keyboard layout from Canadian English to Greek the hotkey is command spacebar, again great it works. Heres where the first problem comes in. when I open the notes from the doc and I start typing everything is okay, but when I press command spacebar to switch to the Greek voiceover says spot light search, it types in Greek but not in the body of the document and of course when I press enter it takes me to the internet. Can anyone help. I thought about trying it out on pages which is listed in the doc but I don’t think I have pages even though its listed in the doc. The second problem is I can’t find a hotkey for switching voices/languages with a hotkey. Does anyone know how I can do this using the keyboard? I don’t want to always want to half to open the voiceover utility or system preferences just to switch voices or languages, I’m assuming and hoping there is a hotkey for this action. Of course I have a thousand more questions but let’s start with these, and hopefully someone can help me with this before I move to something else. I would appreciate any help and advice. Thanks in advance, Your friendly neighbourhood lister and new Mac user, Zoe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: quality of music output when played from an iPod
No problem. Thanks for the suggestion anyway. Best, Donna Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2014, at 7:16 AM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Well I admit I didn't know what you meant by quality. Sorry about that. Regards Chris On 26/02/2014 12:27, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Chris, I agree 100%. but in this case I'm actually listening on my regular stereo speakers, so the Touch speaker is irrelevant. Cheers, Donna On Feb 26, 2014, at 2:40 AM, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: My view is because of the speakers on the iPod Touch. To me they sound so tinny that it's hard to impossible to decipher what's in the music. Little to no bass and too much of the higher frequencies. Just my £0.02 worth. On 26 Feb 2014, at 01:13, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, Recently I have had occasion to compare the sound of my actual CDs juxtaposed with the imported versions of those same CDs played on the same speakers, but played from my 4th gen touch. There's a noticeable degradation in sound quality when the music is played from my ipod. Just wondering if others have noticed this, and what, if anything you've done to compensate? TIA, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: quality of music output when played from an iPod
Hi, To get the iTunes Plus higher quality songs when you are subscribed to iTunes Match, do the following: 1. Go into iTunes. 2. Select the Songs view. 3. Select the songs you wish to upgrade. 4. Press the Delete key. 5. Pay attention to the dialog that appears and make sure that you don't delete the songs from the Cloud as well. 6. Once they've been deleted, there should now be a Download button right to the right of the song title. Press it for each song. The higher quality version will download from Apple. There are quick ways to manage this sort of thing by sorting your Library by Kind, iCloud Status and such then doing actions on multiple items.. Also, regarding sound quality, note that the sound output devices in iPods are not to the quality that you can get out of a laptop or Desktop computer, so sound quality may be less when playing to amplifier units as the less quality is also amplified. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Feb 25, 2014, at 9:47 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi Erik, Oh, weird! It would never have dawned on me that I have to do that. So, how do I go about it? If I delete the local copies, will the match copies import automatically? Thanks both of you, Eric and Lisette. I'll really be glad to have solved this. Best, Donna On Feb 25, 2014, at 9:45 PM, Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Donna, You can use iTunes match to get the higher quality recordings to play but it is not automatic. you will be playing your local copy until you delete them and then import them back from iTunes match. Here is a kind of amazing example. I recorded many vinyl records and then placed them in itunes. Later I noticed that many of them were recognized by iTunes.and showed up as matched. Once I deleted them from itunes I could then bring them back from itunes match. When they came back they were true high quality copies from itunes and not my vinyl recordings! Mostly I was happy with the exchange. For a few albums I missed the album sounds. Eric Caron On Feb 25, 2014, at 8:30 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hey Lisette, thanks. You know, I didn't look at the bit rate, and I should have. Much as I would dislike importing my CDs again, the poor sound quality does bother me quite a bit. One thing I wonder, though, I have iTunes match, so wouldn't I be playing a higher quality recording, even if my CD was imported at a lower bit rate? thanks so much for the help. Cheers, Donna On Feb 25, 2014, at 7:16 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Donna, When you import CDS, you can choose to increase the bit rate to a higher quality. I always import at 192 kbps as I can hear the degradation and it bothers me. You can choose all these settings in iTunes prefs under the general tab. You'll have to re import your CDs again but maybe it's worth it for you. I am not a great expert on all this sample and bit rate stuff, but I do know I can hear it when it's too low. By default it's set at 128 kbps I think. Check it out. Lisette On 26/02/2014, at 2:13 pm, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, Recently I have had occasion to compare the sound of my actual CDs juxtaposed with the imported versions of those same CDs played on the same speakers, but played from my 4th gen touch. There's a noticeable degradation in sound quality when the music is played from my ipod. Just wondering if others have noticed this, and what, if anything you've done to compensate? TIA, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message
Re: The age old question of which braille display to get
Hello Eileen. I did notice the difference between the focus and my refreshabraille. I like the feel of the refreshabraille better. I know I don't want anything less than 40 cells for work. I may go ahead and keep the small one to keep in my purse. Aimee Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Amy, The only other thing I may add is the feel of the braille cells under your fingers. All braille displays have a disstinct feel to them. I have not investted in a dedicated braille display because I have a Braille Note 32, which meets my needs as a braille display. With JAWS 15 (latest built) there are more driver support included in the software. So, you may want to take a look at the list before purchasing if the braille display is supported without going the extra step. HTH. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2014, at 7:00 AM, Aimee Harwood awildh...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Piotr! This is the kind of thing I'm looking for. I have a Brailliant demo coming to the A T center hopefully Friday. Another thing I am considering is if I should keep my refreshabraille. My purse is big enough to Cary a 40 cell display and I already Cary my iPad in its zagfolio so I'm used to the bulk. Any thoughts on if it is worth having both? Aimee Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2014, at 5:49 AM, Piotr Machacz piterm...@gmail.com wrote: I can sort of compare the brailliant to the focus. I've never actually seen a focus display, but I can definitely tell you that the Brailliant is much quieter - the focus uses the same sells as the PAC mate display, which is very noisy. The build quality is also better - aluminium body VS plastic, it's also thinner. As far as using it with Apple devices, I have no problems with it, not on OS X, not on iOS, or Windows. What it doesn't haves a joystick though, nor any whiz wheels. As far as screen reader support, OS X and iOS is plug and play. On Windows, JAWS already installs the focus drivers, so that's something you won't have to do. For the brailliant you will need to install them yourself, which just envollves running an EXE file. That having been said, I really suggest you don't buy JAWS. The new versions are really breaking features and FS is sadly not fixing bugs. For office productivity you can use a combination of NVDA and Window-eyes, which is now free for users of Office 2010 or newer. Both of them rely far more on the com interface of office rather than screen scraping which translates to a more stable experience and the fact that reading is way more accurate And of course, both support both the brailliant and focus. On 24 Feb 2014, at 03:07 am, Aimee Harwood awildh...@gmail.com wrote: Hello listers. I am trying to decide what braille display to get. I am going to get at least a 40 but am considering an 80. My main question to you is, those of you that use your displays for work, which is better? Can I use a 40 productively, or would I be better off with an 80? Next is the question about connectivity. I currently have all Apple products, but know that when I finally find an employer that will give me a chance, I will most likely will ,e using Windows and probably JAWS. Which display will keep my hands on the display more and reduce the amount of time going back and forth between display and keyboard? If I end up going with a 40 cell display, which one works more seamlessly with the iPhone, and MacBook Pro? Is there a display that can be paired with more than one device? Like with my Refreshabraille, I have to make sure my iPad is turned off if I want to use it with my iPhone, or I have to tell one device to forget it before I can use it with the other. Which displays can be supported and repaired in the United States? Is Freedom Scintific's maintenance agreement worth the price and worth choosing a Focus even if it isn't your favorite just to have the agreement? Here are the displays that I am considering I currently use a Refreshabraille and like the feel of the dots, like the keyboard, and like the joystick. With that in mind with all the other comments and concerns, which display would be a better fit for me? Brailliant BI VarioConnect Braille edge Focus Active Braille Feel free to make any other recommendations if I haven't listed one that you think would be a good fit. I am trying to get my hands on some of these but may not be able to get my hands on all of them. I have been reading a lot of archived messages and looking at sites where they are sold, but I still ckn't figure out which will be the best fit. Unfortunately people don't go to sites and give feedback. I really haven't found a lot of reviews online or on youtube. Any and all help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Aimee Sent from my iPhone -- You received this
Re: The age old question of which braille display to get
Hi Aimee, having designed one of the family of displays you're looking at, I'd obviously have a preference. :) Some of the comment you're getting clearly do not refer to the latest Focus displays since they have referred to whiz wheels, a feature not on the new products. The thing I would say about the latest Focus displays is that like all Freedom Scientific products, blind people drove their design. When we were putting them together, we did a lot of work with people who read and write Braille, trying to optimise being able to work in Braille for long periods with minimal fatigue and smooth traction with your fingers on the display. I use JAWS BrailleIn for hours a day, since it's really just like Brailling into a notetaker when using apps like Microsoft Word, it is that robust. And I find that I can Braille for long periods without my wrists aching. There is a lot of travel on the Focus keyboard which helps here, that may account for some of the noise you're hearing, but I really find it pleasant and comfortable compared to other devices I've played with. In terms of the space bar, we put it where we put it because when we watched people using the mock-ups we had, we found that people's thumbs naturally rested in that position, so you're thumb is naturally ready to press space if the key is located where it is on the Focus. Some displays require you to tuck your thumb inwards. It's no big deal if you're Brailling for a short time, but it can do damage if you have to keep tucking your thumb in like that when you're Brailling for a long time. The difference between the quality of input of the new Focus displays compared with the previous generation is huge. We spent a lot of time on this because we realised that JAWS BrailleIn had really changed the game in terms of how often people were using these devices for input. Since this is a Mac/Apple-related list, let me try to ensure this is on topic by saying that I use my Focus displays with my iPhone, and to a lesser extent my Mac, regularly. The pairing is really robust. That's an important consideration, because when you need to write or read something, you want it to just work. But in reality, when connected to a screen reader, these displays get their intelligence from the screen reader driver. Functionally, all these displays will do the same thing with your Apple devices. It will come down to price, ergonomics, how quickly you can get the unit turned around when you need it maintained. It sounds like you're in a position to get your hands, literally, on some of these devices and I think that's the best approach. Happy searching. Braille is beautiful! Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 26/02/2014, at 5:55 pm, Aimee Harwood awildh...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Jonathan. I actually agree that the prices have come down a good bit. I am getting the display purchased for me, so I can go for the larger display if need be. I had hoped that you would have given me some of your wonderful insight on pros and cons of the displays that I had listed. I currently don't have any access to JAWS but may in the future. I spent the afternoon with the focus 40 connected to my iPad and used it to type some lengthy notes. To me it was a good bit noisier all the way around compared to my Refreshabraille. The keys were louder and the display changing pins around was louder as well. I had to get used to putting my pinkies back to work again. They don't have anything to do on my Refreshabraille. I did decide that the 40 cells will be better for me. It took me a bit to get used to having the space bar further away from my other fingers, but after a while it was pretty comfortable. So is there anyone that can from experience, give me some pros and coms of the displays I listed in my original message? If possible, please focus more on Apple products when giving those pros and coms. I really like to do a lot of research and comparing before a purchase is made so that I don't regret my choice down the road.I greatly appreciate everyones input so far. Aimee Sent from my iPhone On Feb 25, 2014, at 11:21 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: I think it's also important to remember that there has been downward pressure on Braille display prices over the last decade. In 2004, you'd be looking at at least $5,000 USD for a 40 cell display. Manufacturing processes have improved and you can now get a 40 cell display for $2800 USD. I realise that's still a lot of money and it would be good to see prices drop further if manufacturing costs allow, but when you take inflation into account, that's one massive reduction and manufacturers are not keeping the cost savings to themselves and making higher profits. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On
Using FaceTime Audio
After updating to OS 10.9.2 yesterday the first thing that I wanted to try was making an audio only call from my Mac. It took me some digging around to figure out how to place the call and then when I did figure this out my call kept failing. After doing several searches on Google I stumbled across an Apple Support thread on the failure of FaceTime calls and I was able to follow some instructions that someone had posted to get it working on my Mac. Here is a blog post that I wrote about this. I hope that if anyone else is having this issue that this will help them to fix it. http://www.fedoraoutlier.com/facetime-audio-calls-finally-come-mac/ Scott Rumery Whatever happens keep your sense of humor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Running Windows on Mac, on a budget
Hi all, I have a day dream/goal to happen before the end of the year. I'd like to have a Mac to run Windows via parallels. We are on a budget, so buying a super duper iMac is not doable. I was wondering about a Mac Mini for running Windows. We have a TV that can be used as a monitor and we have a Zagg bluetooth keyboard. We also have a Microsoft connection, so fingers crossed on a good deal for a Windows CD. BTW, I want the best bang for my buck. :) I want OSX Windows to run smoothly, if not snappy. :) No sluggishness. I'm open to any advice you have for me. Here are a few questions off the top of my head. 1. Which Windows Oporating system should I go for? 2. Will NVDA run on that system. I'm guessing that my copy of window eyes is too far out of date. I think I have 7.2 3. I'm going to paste a link of a local Mac store that sells pre-owned Macs. Will you offer up your knowledge on the best deal? If there is one. Power of the machine, price, etc. http://www.themacstore.com/parts/code/PM_CU_MM_IN I currently have a MacBook Air, which I believe has enough oomph to it, but the SSD isn't very large, 128GB. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this topic. Traci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: new mac user please help
Be aware that VO F8 twice will bring you to the list of VoiceOver keyboard commands. The commands are grouped in such a way that you can easily locate what you need when you need it. There are a potentially overwhelming number of VO commands to learn if you try to memorize them all at once, so you're better off learning the ones you need as you complete your daily tasks on the Mac. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:38 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: new mac user please help I will try this option and let you all know how it works. Also you mentioned the quickstart voiceover tutorial and yes I did this and it has helped a little. Of course I have a lot of knew keyboard commands to memorize and it will take a while. Thank you for your help. Will try your recommendation soon. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of isaac Sent: February-26-14 9:56 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: new mac user please help To switch voices press control option command left arrow and right arrow and use the up and arrows to to make ajustments. On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:48 AM, Zoe Fiogkos fiog...@rogers.com wrote: Hi everyone, so I finally took the big dive and got my new iMac and of course coming from the world of windows I'm totally lost. However I am also excited to learn something new. I did purchase apple care and I also belong to this great list so these options should help, and even though I feel like I'm at the bottom of a huge mountain with the peak no where in sight I'm looking forward to climbing and exploring this new mountain. The first thing I did is the voiceover tutorial and that helped a little. My first questions that I need help with is as follows. One of the reasons I went with Mac is because apple offers voiceover in other languages and one of those languages is my native tongue. I've downloaded the voice that is assigned to my native tongue which is Greek. I have also added the keyboard input source of Greek, up until this point everything is okay. I figured out that to change the keyboard layout from Canadian English to Greek the hotkey is command spacebar, again great it works. Heres where the first problem comes in. when I open the notes from the doc and I start typing everything is okay, but when I press command spacebar to switch to the Greek voiceover says spot light search, it types in Greek but not in the body of the document and of course when I press enter it takes me to the internet. Can anyone help. I thought about trying it out on pages which is listed in the doc but I don't think I have pages even though its listed in the doc. The second problem is I can't find a hotkey for switching voices/languages with a hotkey. Does anyone know how I can do this using the keyboard? I don't want to always want to half to open the voiceover utility or system preferences just to switch voices or languages, I'm assuming and hoping there is a hotkey for this action. Of course I have a thousand more questions but let's start with these, and hopefully someone can help me with this before I move to something else. I would appreciate any help and advice. Thanks in advance, Your friendly neighbourhood lister and new Mac user, Zoe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To
Re: quality of music output when played from an iPod
Regarding sound quality from iPod or iPhone. If you use the lightning output into a docking station like Pure i20, and optical out from the dock into optical in on an amplifier you may not hear any difference. Because the IOS device only sends digital signal out and do not convert anything at all. On Pure i20 you need a usb to lightning adapter from Apple to make it work with lightning connector. Analog out from a IOS device i.e. out from the 3.5» mini jack its another story. Take care 26. feb. 2014 kl. 17:25 skrev Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com: Hi, To get the iTunes Plus higher quality songs when you are subscribed to iTunes Match, do the following: 1. Go into iTunes. 2. Select the Songs view. 3. Select the songs you wish to upgrade. 4. Press the Delete key. 5. Pay attention to the dialog that appears and make sure that you don't delete the songs from the Cloud as well. 6. Once they've been deleted, there should now be a Download button right to the right of the song title. Press it for each song. The higher quality version will download from Apple. There are quick ways to manage this sort of thing by sorting your Library by Kind, iCloud Status and such then doing actions on multiple items.. Also, regarding sound quality, note that the sound output devices in iPods are not to the quality that you can get out of a laptop or Desktop computer, so sound quality may be less when playing to amplifier units as the less quality is also amplified. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Feb 25, 2014, at 9:47 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi Erik, Oh, weird! It would never have dawned on me that I have to do that. So, how do I go about it? If I delete the local copies, will the match copies import automatically? Thanks both of you, Eric and Lisette. I'll really be glad to have solved this. Best, Donna On Feb 25, 2014, at 9:45 PM, Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Donna, You can use iTunes match to get the higher quality recordings to play but it is not automatic. you will be playing your local copy until you delete them and then import them back from iTunes match. Here is a kind of amazing example. I recorded many vinyl records and then placed them in itunes. Later I noticed that many of them were recognized by iTunes.and showed up as matched. Once I deleted them from itunes I could then bring them back from itunes match. When they came back they were true high quality copies from itunes and not my vinyl recordings! Mostly I was happy with the exchange. For a few albums I missed the album sounds. Eric Caron On Feb 25, 2014, at 8:30 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hey Lisette, thanks. You know, I didn't look at the bit rate, and I should have. Much as I would dislike importing my CDs again, the poor sound quality does bother me quite a bit. One thing I wonder, though, I have iTunes match, so wouldn't I be playing a higher quality recording, even if my CD was imported at a lower bit rate? thanks so much for the help. Cheers, Donna On Feb 25, 2014, at 7:16 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Donna, When you import CDS, you can choose to increase the bit rate to a higher quality. I always import at 192 kbps as I can hear the degradation and it bothers me. You can choose all these settings in iTunes prefs under the general tab. You'll have to re import your CDs again but maybe it's worth it for you. I am not a great expert on all this sample and bit rate stuff, but I do know I can hear it when it's too low. By default it's set at 128 kbps I think. Check it out. Lisette On 26/02/2014, at 2:13 pm, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, Recently I have had occasion to compare the sound of my actual CDs juxtaposed with the imported versions of those same CDs played on the same speakers, but played from my 4th gen touch. There's a noticeable degradation in sound quality when the music is played from my ipod. Just wondering if others have noticed this, and what, if anything you've done to compensate? TIA, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
Re: Using FaceTime Audio
The poster is wrong about one thing. You can too make Facetime audio only calls inside Facetime. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:40 AM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote: After updating to OS 10.9.2 yesterday the first thing that I wanted to try was making an audio only call from my Mac. It took me some digging around to figure out how to place the call and then when I did figure this out my call kept failing. After doing several searches on Google I stumbled across an Apple Support thread on the failure of FaceTime calls and I was able to follow some instructions that someone had posted to get it working on my Mac. Here is a blog post that I wrote about this. I hope that if anyone else is having this issue that this will help them to fix it. http://www.fedoraoutlier.com/facetime-audio-calls-finally-come-mac/ Scott Rumery Whatever happens keep your sense of humor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
help with a few commands
Hi All, I am forgetting or just never really knew, the commands to do the following. Go to top of a screen or web page. Go to bottom of a screen or web page. Go to top of a mail message and bottom of said message. I'll take either the VO commands or the general Mac commands or both. Thanks. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: a quick question about the bard mobile ap
I too am courious about that too. But as far I can tell, it is copy protected, so that option is not there. I tried to do research on that since I liked to listen books thru iTunes instead of the BARD Mobil app. The only downside of BARD Mobil apps is that you can't lock the screen, so putting your iPhone in your pocket is out of the question. Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit NVDA installed Phonak Compilot On Feb 26, 2014, at 7:49 AM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote: Something I was curious about with that app; the article claimed when it first came out, that you could transfer your existing books to the app via itunes, but I can't figure out for the life of me how to do this. Has anyone else been able to do this? I don't want to have to redownload the same books again, which can take a while, and if I'm pressed for time, that can get annoying, so if anyone has some tips, I'd really appreciate it. On Feb 26, 2014, at 7:18 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Sure. Just go to your wish list on the app, then, when you find a book, double tap on it. You will get a doalog asking if you want to download the book. Answer yes to this. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 26, 2014, at 5:47 AM, Dana danano...@comcast.net wrote: Does anyone know I have figured out how to find books put them in my wish list but nott how to download them on the bard ap can someone tell me how it is done? Thanks Dana Skype and twitter ID's both the same djkitty73 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using FaceTime Audio
Can you enlighten the list as to how to do this? I looked all through the FaceTime interface yesterday and I didn't see anything about making a FaceTime audio call from there. Scott Rumery Whatever happens keep your sense of humor On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:58 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: The poster is wrong about one thing. You can too make Facetime audio only calls inside Facetime. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:40 AM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote: After updating to OS 10.9.2 yesterday the first thing that I wanted to try was making an audio only call from my Mac. It took me some digging around to figure out how to place the call and then when I did figure this out my call kept failing. After doing several searches on Google I stumbled across an Apple Support thread on the failure of FaceTime calls and I was able to follow some instructions that someone had posted to get it working on my Mac. Here is a blog post that I wrote about this. I hope that if anyone else is having this issue that this will help them to fix it. http://www.fedoraoutlier.com/facetime-audio-calls-finally-come-mac/ Scott Rumery Whatever happens keep your sense of humor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using FaceTime Audio
it is in the contact info scrol area. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote: Can you enlighten the list as to how to do this? I looked all through the FaceTime interface yesterday and I didn’t see anything about making a FaceTime audio call from there. Scott Rumery Whatever happens keep your sense of humor On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:58 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: The poster is wrong about one thing. You can too make Facetime audio only calls inside Facetime. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:40 AM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote: After updating to OS 10.9.2 yesterday the first thing that I wanted to try was making an audio only call from my Mac. It took me some digging around to figure out how to place the call and then when I did figure this out my call kept failing. After doing several searches on Google I stumbled across an Apple Support thread on the failure of FaceTime calls and I was able to follow some instructions that someone had posted to get it working on my Mac. Here is a blog post that I wrote about this. I hope that if anyone else is having this issue that this will help them to fix it. http://www.fedoraoutlier.com/facetime-audio-calls-finally-come-mac/ Scott Rumery Whatever happens keep your sense of humor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: a quick question about the bard mobile ap
Hey Dana, once you've put them on your wish list, go back to get books within the Bard ap, and in that section you see wish list and however many items are there. Double tap there, and select your book from the list, double tap the book and it will ask you are you sure you want to download, and say Ok, and it starts downloading. Hope that helps. And, hope you're doing well. Take care and talk to you soon. On Feb 26, 2014, at 5:47 AM, Dana danano...@comcast.net wrote: Does anyone know I have figured out how to find books put them in my wish list but nott how to download them on the bard ap can someone tell me how it is done? Thanks Dana Skype and twitter ID's both the same djkitty73 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Running Windows on Mac, on a budget
I think you should go with windows 7 operating system. Next will NVDA work on it yes NVDA will work on a windows 7 operating system. On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have a day dream/goal to happen before the end of the year. I'd like to have a Mac to run Windows via parallels. We are on a budget, so buying a super duper iMac is not doable. I was wondering about a Mac Mini for running Windows. We have a TV that can be used as a monitor and we have a Zagg bluetooth keyboard. We also have a Microsoft connection, so fingers crossed on a good deal for a Windows CD. BTW, I want the best bang for my buck. :) I want OSX Windows to run smoothly, if not snappy. :) No sluggishness. I'm open to any advice you have for me. Here are a few questions off the top of my head. 1. Which Windows Oporating system should I go for? 2. Will NVDA run on that system. I'm guessing that my copy of window eyes is too far out of date. I think I have 7.2 3. I'm going to paste a link of a local Mac store that sells pre-owned Macs. Will you offer up your knowledge on the best deal? If there is one. Power of the machine, price, etc. http://www.themacstore.com/parts/code/PM_CU_MM_IN I currently have a MacBook Air, which I believe has enough oomph to it, but the SSD isn't very large, 128GB. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this topic. Traci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Running Windows on Mac, on a budget
A current mac mini would run windows no problem via a vm or via bootcamp. And yes, you'll be able to run NVDA on it. On 2/26/14, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: I think you should go with windows 7 operating system. Next will NVDA work on it yes NVDA will work on a windows 7 operating system. On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have a day dream/goal to happen before the end of the year. I'd like to have a Mac to run Windows via parallels. We are on a budget, so buying a super duper iMac is not doable. I was wondering about a Mac Mini for running Windows. We have a TV that can be used as a monitor and we have a Zagg bluetooth keyboard. We also have a Microsoft connection, so fingers crossed on a good deal for a Windows CD. BTW, I want the best bang for my buck. :) I want OSX Windows to run smoothly, if not snappy. :) No sluggishness. I'm open to any advice you have for me. Here are a few questions off the top of my head. 1. Which Windows Oporating system should I go for? 2. Will NVDA run on that system. I'm guessing that my copy of window eyes is too far out of date. I think I have 7.2 3. I'm going to paste a link of a local Mac store that sells pre-owned Macs. Will you offer up your knowledge on the best deal? If there is one. Power of the machine, price, etc. http://www.themacstore.com/parts/code/PM_CU_MM_IN I currently have a MacBook Air, which I believe has enough oomph to it, but the SSD isn't very large, 128GB. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this topic. Traci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OS10.9.2 is out!
I get this too. Will try interacting with the text with vo j. On 26 Feb 2014, at 14:41, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: The chatter I get is the word imbedded, the sender's name and email address, then the word imbedded repeated twice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: help with a few commands
First to go to the top of a screen or bottom of a screen the commands are vo function shift left arrow and right arrow that is control option function left arrow and right arrow. On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I am forgetting or just never really knew, the commands to do the following. Go to top of a screen or web page. Go to bottom of a screen or web page.Go to top of a mail message and bottom of said message. I'll take either the VO commands or the general Mac commands or both. Thanks. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using FaceTime Audio
I didn't know you can do that while in the face time app I will have to try that out thanks for the tip. On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:08 AM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote: it is in the contact info scrol area. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote: Can you enlighten the list as to how to do this? I looked all through the FaceTime interface yesterday and I didn't see anything about making a FaceTime audio call from there. Scott Rumery Whatever happens keep your sense of humor On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:58 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: The poster is wrong about one thing. You can too make Facetime audio only calls inside Facetime. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:40 AM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote: After updating to OS 10.9.2 yesterday the first thing that I wanted to try was making an audio only call from my Mac. It took me some digging around to figure out how to place the call and then when I did figure this out my call kept failing. After doing several searches on Google I stumbled across an Apple Support thread on the failure of FaceTime calls and I was able to follow some instructions that someone had posted to get it working on my Mac. Here is a blog post that I wrote about this. I hope that if anyone else is having this issue that this will help them to fix it. http://www.fedoraoutlier.com/facetime-audio-calls-finally-come-mac/ Scott Rumery Whatever happens keep your sense of humor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OS10.9.2 is out!
Yes seems to work very well on my Macbook Pro 2012 model. On 26 Feb 2014, at 14:13, Portia Scott portia.sc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I installed the update last night and it is really awesome. I find it faster when going through my applications folder on my MacBook Pro 09 model. It used to be slow going through it with quick nag on, but not anymore. Have a great day, and smile on. Regards, Portia. On Feb 25, 2014, at 11:43 AM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Can you explain the issues? On Feb 25, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Maurice Mines maurice.mi...@gmail.com wrote: just realized I'm dictating this to the phone so some of it might not come out the way that it should. I hope this fixes the problem that some braille displays are having a when trying to use Bluetooth. But I guess not? Maybe sometime in my lifetime or sometime in the near future Apple will fix this? Oh well going to continue with USB braille don't want much non-fun. PS using the phone to dictate this so some of it might not exactly come out the way that it should. Sincerely, Maurice Mines. Student accessibility aid. Voicemail phone, 360-524-0791. Work/school email address, maurice.mi...@pcc.edu. On Feb 25, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Hi all, OS10.9.2 is here! Aside from Mail, Safari, security, FaceTime, and other small fixes and improvements, the release notes specifically state Voiceover fixes. We'll see what those are in the coming days. Brian, I hope this fixes some of your problems so you don't need the clean install. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: My FaceTime Window is Unresponsive
It is strange behavior indeed. It says in the help for facetime that you can initiate a call from the app, but it also indicates that you have to designate contacts as Facetime capable. Just a slightly vague set of instructions, most likely. I may try it at some point, but I don't make voice calls often, as my hearing is not all that great. Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. On Feb 26, 2014, at 5:14 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: Yesterday when I tried to start a FaceTime audio call yesterday I got a message saying FaceTime failed and a hang up sound. On Feb 26, 2014, at 7:10 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: That is exactly what happened to me as well. Eventually, I opened the contacts app, went to the contact I wanted to call, and activated the FaceTime button from there. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2014, at 1:48, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I've never used Facetime before, so I thought I'd poke around a bit. I assumed I had signed into it with the latest Os X update, and I got an email saying that my computer was using my Apple iD for Facetime. when I opened the window, I got the Window control buttons, but nothing else. When I found preferences in the Facetime menu, it was dimmed. where do I go from here? Thanks, teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using FaceTime Audio
Well I guess that I goofed then didn't I? I will have to go and fix my post now. Thank you for letting me know about my error. Scott Rumery Whatever happens keep your sense of humor On Feb 26, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote: it is in the contact info scrol area. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote: Can you enlighten the list as to how to do this? I looked all through the FaceTime interface yesterday and I didn't see anything about making a FaceTime audio call from there. Scott Rumery Whatever happens keep your sense of humor On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:58 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: The poster is wrong about one thing. You can too make Facetime audio only calls inside Facetime. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:40 AM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote: After updating to OS 10.9.2 yesterday the first thing that I wanted to try was making an audio only call from my Mac. It took me some digging around to figure out how to place the call and then when I did figure this out my call kept failing. After doing several searches on Google I stumbled across an Apple Support thread on the failure of FaceTime calls and I was able to follow some instructions that someone had posted to get it working on my Mac. Here is a blog post that I wrote about this. I hope that if anyone else is having this issue that this will help them to fix it. http://www.fedoraoutlier.com/facetime-audio-calls-finally-come-mac/ Scott Rumery Whatever happens keep your sense of humor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Folder Action New Item Alert Now Works In Latest Mavericks Update
How odd. Well, sorry it doesn't work as expected. Mine worked right off. You shouldn't have to download any scripts. I never did. They were already built in. Teresa Visualize whirled peas. On Feb 26, 2014, at 5:21 AM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey, just letting you all know that mine seemed to work. it's the first time i have ever tried it. On 27 Feb 2014, at 12:16 am, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Oh great! You are having the same problem as me then. Regards Chris On 26/02/2014 12:27, Richard Ring wrote: Hello! When I point to my downloads folder and then go to the finder services submenu, and choose folder action setup, the dialog doesn't open with either VO space, or enter. Are there scripts I need to install? You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 25, 2014, at 8:10 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I'm happy to report that the folder actions script for notifying when a new item is downloaded now works properly. This is a wonderful little utility that Finder has. Basically, you find the folder you want, go to the finder menu, and choose services submenu, then folder actions setup. A dialog opens up and you can select the script you want to run when a particular action is done to a folder. I always liked being notified when a new item was placed in my downloads folder. Unfortunately, the script didn't work when Mavericks first came out. Now it does. :) Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using FaceTime Audio
No prob, tell you what though, you were right about deleting the /Library/System Configuration/Facetime.plist file. Works like a charm now. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:35 AM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote: Well I guess that I goofed then didn't I? I will have to go and fix my post now. Thank you for letting me know about my error. Scott Rumery Whatever happens keep your sense of humor On Feb 26, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote: it is in the contact info scrol area. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote: Can you enlighten the list as to how to do this? I looked all through the FaceTime interface yesterday and I didn't see anything about making a FaceTime audio call from there. Scott Rumery Whatever happens keep your sense of humor On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:58 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: The poster is wrong about one thing. You can too make Facetime audio only calls inside Facetime. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:40 AM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote: After updating to OS 10.9.2 yesterday the first thing that I wanted to try was making an audio only call from my Mac. It took me some digging around to figure out how to place the call and then when I did figure this out my call kept failing. After doing several searches on Google I stumbled across an Apple Support thread on the failure of FaceTime calls and I was able to follow some instructions that someone had posted to get it working on my Mac. Here is a blog post that I wrote about this. I hope that if anyone else is having this issue that this will help them to fix it. http://www.fedoraoutlier.com/facetime-audio-calls-finally-come-mac/ Scott Rumery Whatever happens keep your sense of humor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OS10.9.2 is out!
Really, it's a judgement call. If you press delete on a thread, all of the messages in it are deleted. I might be more likely at times to read a thread that has more than one message in it. Also, there are times when I want to find out if someone has answered a question on the list. I don't want to be one of ten people posting the same answer to a question. But really, I think it is a matter of preference. Some of us prefer hear ing the message count first. It's that simple. :) Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Feb 26, 2014, at 2:22 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: I will probably get flamed for saying this, but i don't understand why it's so important to have conversation count first? I have to listen to the subject and other stuff in order to deem it interesting or uninteresting anyway so what does it matter where the conversation count is? What is it that i'm too stupid to understand? /Krister 25 feb 2014 kl. 21:21 skrev Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net: Yes, it is in the progress bar. One thing I notice right away is that apps tend to open a little more snappy than before, even on start up. Also, when you come across a conversation in mail, (assuming you have mail set up to display messages by conversation) the conversation message count is given first. Now, if only they would put the read or unread status right after it, now that would be sweet. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 25, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: I think it does, but I noticed it in the progress bar as I was updating. Teresa Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P. Feynman On Feb 25, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@googlemail.com wrote: Haven't performed the update yet myself but how do you know how big the file size is? Does it tell you before the update? On 25 Feb 2014, at 19:48, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: LOL more's the point. I wasn't paying exact attention to the download size, obviously. :) teresa The golden age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete graham On Feb 25, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Try 769MB, lol. Either way, yes, putting it on AC is a good idea. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
Re: Running Windows on Mac, on a budget
Well at times running windows on a mac is more a nightmare than a day dream in my experience. But once you work through all the headaches, it can be done pretty well. First, you won't be using Parallels. It's not accessible. You'll have to use VMware fusion if you want a virtual machine or of course you can use Boot Camp if you don't mind separating your Windows and Mac experience. The biggest problem with VMware fusion is that most of my sighted friends using Macs don't use it. It doesn't have nearly the ratings of Parallel and except for accessibility doesn't seem to be of interest to people I know. So getting help is sometimes challenging. If you want your experience to be particularly snappy in windows, you'll have to have at least three cores to dedicate to the Windows box. Fortunately the Mac doesn't need so much. I had mine on a Mac Air but it was pretty sluggish and crashed a lot. I finally wen to a Macbook Pro with maximum specs and it's running quite well. But that doesn't address your interest to do this on the cheap. I think your copy of WindowEyes will run in the virtual machine with Windows7 but check with them to be sure. NVDA certainly will of course. be prepared for headaches though. You have to map some keys, resolve whatever conflicts arise about hardware and applications etc. I've found it to be pretty challenging at times. Reliability of help from the lists has been hit and miss too. Having said that, I'd probably do it again. On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:53 AM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have a day dream/goal to happen before the end of the year. I'd like to have a Mac to run Windows via parallels. We are on a budget, so buying a super duper iMac is not doable. I was wondering about a Mac Mini for running Windows. We have a TV that can be used as a monitor and we have a Zagg bluetooth keyboard. We also have a Microsoft connection, so fingers crossed on a good deal for a Windows CD. BTW, I want the best bang for my buck. :) I want OSX Windows to run smoothly, if not snappy. :) No sluggishness. I'm open to any advice you have for me. Here are a few questions off the top of my head. 1. Which Windows Oporating system should I go for? 2. Will NVDA run on that system. I'm guessing that my copy of window eyes is too far out of date. I think I have 7.2 3. I'm going to paste a link of a local Mac store that sells pre-owned Macs. Will you offer up your knowledge on the best deal? If there is one. Power of the machine, price, etc. http://www.themacstore.com/parts/code/PM_CU_MM_IN I currently have a MacBook Air, which I believe has enough oomph to it, but the SSD isn't very large, 128GB. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this topic. Traci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using FaceTime Audio
I just made the edit to reflect the fact that you can place the call from the FaceTime app. Thanks for the heads up. Scott Rumery Whatever happens keep your sense of humor On Feb 26, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: No prob, tell you what though, you were right about deleting the /Library/System Configuration/Facetime.plist file. Works like a charm now. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:35 AM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote: Well I guess that I goofed then didn't I? I will have to go and fix my post now. Thank you for letting me know about my error. Scott Rumery Whatever happens keep your sense of humor On Feb 26, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote: it is in the contact info scrol area. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote: Can you enlighten the list as to how to do this? I looked all through the FaceTime interface yesterday and I didn't see anything about making a FaceTime audio call from there. Scott Rumery Whatever happens keep your sense of humor On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:58 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: The poster is wrong about one thing. You can too make Facetime audio only calls inside Facetime. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:40 AM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote: After updating to OS 10.9.2 yesterday the first thing that I wanted to try was making an audio only call from my Mac. It took me some digging around to figure out how to place the call and then when I did figure this out my call kept failing. After doing several searches on Google I stumbled across an Apple Support thread on the failure of FaceTime calls and I was able to follow some instructions that someone had posted to get it working on my Mac. Here is a blog post that I wrote about this. I hope that if anyone else is having this issue that this will help them to fix it. http://www.fedoraoutlier.com/facetime-audio-calls-finally-come-mac/ Scott Rumery Whatever happens keep your sense of humor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Re: a quick question about the bard mobile ap
Hi, Jessica and Daniel, In iTunes, go to your device in the sources list. Find the radio button that says apps and press it. VO-right till you get to the scroll area and interact with it. VO-right until you get to the file sharing area. There will be two tables here. One is the list of apps you have on your device that can share files. The other is the list of files within that app. Mine has Bard Mobile in the first table. Press the add button and add your zip file. HtH, teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. On Feb 26, 2014, at 5:49 AM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote: Something I was curious about with that app; the article claimed when it first came out, that you could transfer your existing books to the app via itunes, but I can't figure out for the life of me how to do this. Has anyone else been able to do this? I don't want to have to redownload the same books again, which can take a while, and if I'm pressed for time, that can get annoying, so if anyone has some tips, I'd really appreciate it. On Feb 26, 2014, at 7:18 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Sure. Just go to your wish list on the app, then, when you find a book, double tap on it. You will get a doalog asking if you want to download the book. Answer yes to this. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 26, 2014, at 5:47 AM, Dana danano...@comcast.net wrote: Does anyone know I have figured out how to find books put them in my wish list but nott how to download them on the bard ap can someone tell me how it is done? Thanks Dana Skype and twitter ID's both the same djkitty73 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Folder Action New Item Alert Now Works In Latest Mavericks Update
Hi Chris and Richard! I'm running Mountain Kitty still! But I found I had to go to the services menu when just in finder without picking any folder, then opened it from there and I had to allow the item with a check box! Then when I went to my Downloads and opened VO/shift/m and the alert option was now working! Sorry made a bit of a mess with this but I hope you get the idea! And it solves the problem! Colin On 26 Feb 2014, at 17:36, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: How odd. Well, sorry it doesn't work as expected. Mine worked right off. You shouldn't have to download any scripts. I never did. They were already built in. Teresa Visualize whirled peas. On Feb 26, 2014, at 5:21 AM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey, just letting you all know that mine seemed to work. it's the first time i have ever tried it. On 27 Feb 2014, at 12:16 am, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Oh great! You are having the same problem as me then. Regards Chris On 26/02/2014 12:27, Richard Ring wrote: Hello! When I point to my downloads folder and then go to the finder services submenu, and choose folder action setup, the dialog doesn't open with either VO space, or enter. Are there scripts I need to install? You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 25, 2014, at 8:10 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I'm happy to report that the folder actions script for notifying when a new item is downloaded now works properly. This is a wonderful little utility that Finder has. Basically, you find the folder you want, go to the finder menu, and choose services submenu, then folder actions setup. A dialog opens up and you can select the script you want to run when a particular action is done to a folder. I always liked being notified when a new item was placed in my downloads folder. Unfortunately, the script didn't work when Mavericks first came out. Now it does. :) Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Running Windows on Mac, on a budget
Hi. I've had no trouble running windows seven ultimate 32 bit or 64 bit via bootcamp. It'll most likely be the best option. You're going to have an easier time using a native install as opposed to a virtual machine. And as for hardware/driver/application conflicts, I've had none to speak of with my native windows install and that is on five different macs at this point. If you can afford the new mac mini server edition, that gives you two 1tb internal hard drives, an Intel I7 quad core processor, and more ram than you'll probably need with the ability to add more later on if required. Just my two cents... Cameron. On 2/26/14, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com wrote: Well at times running windows on a mac is more a nightmare than a day dream in my experience. But once you work through all the headaches, it can be done pretty well. First, you won't be using Parallels. It's not accessible. You'll have to use VMware fusion if you want a virtual machine or of course you can use Boot Camp if you don't mind separating your Windows and Mac experience. The biggest problem with VMware fusion is that most of my sighted friends using Macs don't use it. It doesn't have nearly the ratings of Parallel and except for accessibility doesn't seem to be of interest to people I know. So getting help is sometimes challenging. If you want your experience to be particularly snappy in windows, you'll have to have at least three cores to dedicate to the Windows box. Fortunately the Mac doesn't need so much. I had mine on a Mac Air but it was pretty sluggish and crashed a lot. I finally wen to a Macbook Pro with maximum specs and it's running quite well. But that doesn't address your interest to do this on the cheap. I think your copy of WindowEyes will run in the virtual machine with Windows7 but check with them to be sure. NVDA certainly will of course. be prepared for headaches though. You have to map some keys, resolve whatever conflicts arise about hardware and applications etc. I've found it to be pretty challenging at times. Reliability of help from the lists has been hit and miss too. Having said that, I'd probably do it again. On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:53 AM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have a day dream/goal to happen before the end of the year. I'd like to have a Mac to run Windows via parallels. We are on a budget, so buying a super duper iMac is not doable. I was wondering about a Mac Mini for running Windows. We have a TV that can be used as a monitor and we have a Zagg bluetooth keyboard. We also have a Microsoft connection, so fingers crossed on a good deal for a Windows CD. BTW, I want the best bang for my buck. :) I want OSX Windows to run smoothly, if not snappy. :) No sluggishness. I'm open to any advice you have for me. Here are a few questions off the top of my head. 1. Which Windows Oporating system should I go for? 2. Will NVDA run on that system. I'm guessing that my copy of window eyes is too far out of date. I think I have 7.2 3. I'm going to paste a link of a local Mac store that sells pre-owned Macs. Will you offer up your knowledge on the best deal? If there is one. Power of the machine, price, etc. http://www.themacstore.com/parts/code/PM_CU_MM_IN I currently have a MacBook Air, which I believe has enough oomph to it, but the SSD isn't very large, 128GB. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this topic. Traci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: PDF documents and filling in PDF forms.
Curious question: if you fill out a pdf form in TextEdit, does it use rtf format? Do you then have to export it again to pdf, and does it retain the formatting? thanks, teresa Visualize whirled peas. On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:21 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: I never knew you could open PDFs in TextEdit. that's cool. I'll need to try this as I still have one Mac running Mountain Lion. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Folder Action New Item Alert Now Works In Latest Mavericks Update
Can't get that to work either. Cheers Dave On 26 Feb 2014, at 18:03, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com wrote: Hi Chris and Richard! I'm running Mountain Kitty still! But I found I had to go to the services menu when just in finder without picking any folder, then opened it from there and I had to allow the item with a check box! Then when I went to my Downloads and opened VO/shift/m and the alert option was now working! Sorry made a bit of a mess with this but I hope you get the idea! And it solves the problem! Colin On 26 Feb 2014, at 17:36, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: How odd. Well, sorry it doesn't work as expected. Mine worked right off. You shouldn't have to download any scripts. I never did. They were already built in. Teresa Visualize whirled peas. On Feb 26, 2014, at 5:21 AM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey, just letting you all know that mine seemed to work. it's the first time i have ever tried it. On 27 Feb 2014, at 12:16 am, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Oh great! You are having the same problem as me then. Regards Chris On 26/02/2014 12:27, Richard Ring wrote: Hello! When I point to my downloads folder and then go to the finder services submenu, and choose folder action setup, the dialog doesn't open with either VO space, or enter. Are there scripts I need to install? You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 25, 2014, at 8:10 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I'm happy to report that the folder actions script for notifying when a new item is downloaded now works properly. This is a wonderful little utility that Finder has. Basically, you find the folder you want, go to the finder menu, and choose services submenu, then folder actions setup. A dialog opens up and you can select the script you want to run when a particular action is done to a folder. I always liked being notified when a new item was placed in my downloads folder. Unfortunately, the script didn't work when Mavericks first came out. Now it does. :) Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: The age old question of which braille display to get
Thanks a bunch. Yes I have the brailliant coming hopefully Friday and the VarioConnect sometime next week. I brailled on the Focus for a good 4 and a half hours and felt no fatigue. We will have I see what happens with the others. Aimee Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Aimee, having designed one of the family of displays you're looking at, I'd obviously have a preference. :) Some of the comment you're getting clearly do not refer to the latest Focus displays since they have referred to whiz wheels, a feature not on the new products. The thing I would say about the latest Focus displays is that like all Freedom Scientific products, blind people drove their design. When we were putting them together, we did a lot of work with people who read and write Braille, trying to optimise being able to work in Braille for long periods with minimal fatigue and smooth traction with your fingers on the display. I use JAWS BrailleIn for hours a day, since it's really just like Brailling into a notetaker when using apps like Microsoft Word, it is that robust. And I find that I can Braille for long periods without my wrists aching. There is a lot of travel on the Focus keyboard which helps here, that may account for some of the noise you're hearing, but I really find it pleasant and comfortable compared to other devices I've played with. In terms of the space bar, we put it where we put it because when we watched people using the mock-ups we had, we found that people's thumbs naturally rested in that position, so you're thumb is naturally ready to press space if the key is located where it is on the Focus. Some displays require you to tuck your thumb inwards. It's no big deal if you're Brailling for a short time, but it can do damage if you have to keep tucking your thumb in like that when you're Brailling for a long time. The difference between the quality of input of the new Focus displays compared with the previous generation is huge. We spent a lot of time on this because we realised that JAWS BrailleIn had really changed the game in terms of how often people were using these devices for input. Since this is a Mac/Apple-related list, let me try to ensure this is on topic by saying that I use my Focus displays with my iPhone, and to a lesser extent my Mac, regularly. The pairing is really robust. That's an important consideration, because when you need to write or read something, you want it to just work. But in reality, when connected to a screen reader, these displays get their intelligence from the screen reader driver. Functionally, all these displays will do the same thing with your Apple devices. It will come down to price, ergonomics, how quickly you can get the unit turned around when you need it maintained. It sounds like you're in a position to get your hands, literally, on some of these devices and I think that's the best approach. Happy searching. Braille is beautiful! Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 26/02/2014, at 5:55 pm, Aimee Harwood awildh...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Jonathan. I actually agree that the prices have come down a good bit. I am getting the display purchased for me, so I can go for the larger display if need be. I had hoped that you would have given me some of your wonderful insight on pros and cons of the displays that I had listed. I currently don't have any access to JAWS but may in the future. I spent the afternoon with the focus 40 connected to my iPad and used it to type some lengthy notes. To me it was a good bit noisier all the way around compared to my Refreshabraille. The keys were louder and the display changing pins around was louder as well. I had to get used to putting my pinkies back to work again. They don't have anything to do on my Refreshabraille. I did decide that the 40 cells will be better for me. It took me a bit to get used to having the space bar further away from my other fingers, but after a while it was pretty comfortable. So is there anyone that can from experience, give me some pros and coms of the displays I listed in my original message? If possible, please focus more on Apple products when giving those pros and coms. I really like to do a lot of research and comparing before a purchase is made so that I don't regret my choice down the road.I greatly appreciate everyones input so far. Aimee Sent from my iPhone On Feb 25, 2014, at 11:21 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: I think it's also important to remember that there has been downward pressure on Braille display prices over the last decade. In 2004, you'd be looking at at least $5,000 USD for a 40 cell display. Manufacturing processes have improved and you can now get a 40 cell display for $2800 USD. I realise
Re: PDF documents and filling in PDF forms.
Just a little tip. I've had folks who received a PDF I filled out with textEdit say that the stuff I filled out wouldn't print. Not sure why that was but I cheated and re-printed it to a PDF on my end and that seemed to fix it. To do that, even if you don't have a printer set up on the Mac, you just hit command-P. This will pop a print dialog with various printer options including picking a printer. Mine said No Printer Selected. Anyway, ignore most of what's in that dialog and just after the help button you'll find a PDF Menu button and if you drop that down you'll find Save As PDF as the second option. In general, you can use this to make a PDF of most document and web pages. Might not always be super accessible since it's just redirecting printer output. That sometimes puts parts of the page out of order and other common problems, but it can be handy. CB On 2/26/14 1:11 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Curious question: if you fill out a pdf form in TextEdit, does it use rtf format? Do you then have to export it again to pdf, and does it retain the formatting? thanks, teresa Visualize whirled peas. On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:21 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: I never knew you could open PDFs in TextEdit. that's cool. I'll need to try this as I still have one Mac running Mountain Lion. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: PDF documents and filling in PDF forms.
Can you make a formal what you have printed it to PDF as I had problems filling out a form yesterday. I had to email it to my work address and do it on Windows. On 26 Feb 2014, at 06:23 pm, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: Just a little tip. I've had folks who received a PDF I filled out with textEdit say that the stuff I filled out wouldn't print. Not sure why that was but I cheated and re-printed it to a PDF on my end and that seemed to fix it. To do that, even if you don't have a printer set up on the Mac, you just hit command-P. This will pop a print dialog with various printer options including picking a printer. Mine said No Printer Selected. Anyway, ignore most of what's in that dialog and just after the help button you'll find a PDF Menu button and if you drop that down you'll find Save As PDF as the second option. In general, you can use this to make a PDF of most document and web pages. Might not always be super accessible since it's just redirecting printer output. That sometimes puts parts of the page out of order and other common problems, but it can be handy. CB On 2/26/14 1:11 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Curious question: if you fill out a pdf form in TextEdit, does it use rtf format? Do you then have to export it again to pdf, and does it retain the formatting? thanks, teresa Visualize whirled peas. On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:21 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: I never knew you could open PDFs in TextEdit. that's cool. I'll need to try this as I still have one Mac running Mountain Lion. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: help with a few commands
First of all, on a laptop, Home is FN-Left Arrow, End is FN-Right arrow, Page up is FN-Up arrow and Page down is FN-Down arrow. Go to top of window = VO-Cmd-Home; Go to bottom of window = VO-Cmd-End; Go to first visible item = VO-Home; Go to last visible item = VO-End; Go to first item = VO-Shift-Home; Go to last item = VO-Shift-End. Within text areas such as text documents, text fields and e-mails, you can use the normal arrow keys. Here are some commands: Go to beginning of document, Cmd-Up arrow; Go to end of document, Cmd-Down arrow; Go to beginning of line, Cmd-Left arrow; Go to end of line, Cmd-Right arrow; Go to beginning of paragraph, Option-Up arrow; Go to end of paragraph, Option-Down arrow; Go Right one character, Right arrow; Go left one character, Left arrow; Go right one word, Option-Right arrow; Go left one word, Option-Left arrow. Adding the Shift key will highlight text. Cheers, Anne On 26 Feb 2014, at 18:24, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: First to go to the top of a screen or bottom of a screen the commands are vo function shift left arrow and right arrow that is control option function left arrow and right arrow. On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I am forgetting or just never really knew, the commands to do the following. Go to top of a screen or web page. Go to bottom of a screen or web page.Go to top of a mail message and bottom of said message. I'll take either the VO commands or the general Mac commands or both. Thanks. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: new mac user please help
Dear Zoe, Welcome to the group. I, too, am a Greek speaker and I, too, chose to switch to Mac because of the many language Apple offers. I've learnt Greek, and in fact, I'm still continuing my classes with a tutor in Cyprus. Now to your questions. Isaac has already told you how to switch languages on the fly. I hope that this is working well for you now. The second point is more complex, and I will try to explain. My knowledge of this comes from the very many exchanges I've had over the years with the members of the group, so I owe it all to them. The reason why you call up spotlight search is that the shortcut key combination command+spacebar is assigned to spotlight. You need to disassociate this combination with spotlight and than assign it or activate it for the input source. It's a while since I have done it, so forgive me if I make an error. Someone else on the list may correct me on this. 1. Open system preferences by going to the dock with control+f3. You should here voiceover say dock. Once in the dock, you can type three first letters sys to land immediately on system preferences. Press enter. System preferences will open. You will be probably in the toolbar of system preferences where you have back forward buttons and search field. Stop interacting with the toolbar by pressing vo+shift+uparrow and vo + right arrow when you will here preferences pane. 2. Interact with preference pain and vo+right arrow to find the button keyboard or else start typing the word keyboard and you should land on this button. Press vo+spacebar on this button to open keyboard preferences. 3. In keyboard preferences you will have several tabs. As you vo+right arrow through the window, you will hear the word tab and highlighted. The highlighted tab is th the one which is currently active. 4. Find the tab which says shortcuts. Press vo+spacebar on it to highlighted. It will now read highlighted. Continue vo+right arrow to find two tables where you will need to make choices and perform actions. Remember to interact with a table you need to press vo+shift+down arrow and to stop interacting you press vo+shift+uparrow. Once you interact with the table you can vo+down or up arrow through the rows and vo+left or right arrow to examine each row. 5. Interact with the first table and find the category spotlight. Once you land on it, stop interacting with the table. The item spotlight will now be highlighted. Move vo+right to the next table of shortcuts. 6. Interact with the second table and uncheck the boxes next to the spotlight actions. 7. Stop interacting with the table and move back to the previous table of shortcut categories. Interact with it and find the category input source'. Stop interacting and move to the shortcuts table 8. Interact with shortcuts table and vo+down arrow until you find previous and next input source items. To the left of each item there's a checkbox. Check them and to the right of each item there should be a description of the shortcut key. This is the point where my memory fails me. I can't now remember whether I had assigned command+spacebar to the next input source myself or whether it was already assigned and I just needed to check the box next to the action item. I hope the latter is the case. Try this, and if it doesn't work, you will need to assign the shortcut combination. I hope it won't be necessary. I did however have to assign a new shortcut to Spotlight. This is maybe for later. Hope this helps, and if you have any more questions, please ask. Also, there's a very useful macvisionaries archive page whose url is: macvisionaries With best wishes Simon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: new mac user please help
nope, its not VO f8, its VO + H On 26 Feb 2014, at 05:55 pm, Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com wrote: Be aware that VO F8 twice will bring you to the list of VoiceOver keyboard commands. The commands are grouped in such a way that you can easily locate what you need when you need it. There are a potentially overwhelming number of VO commands to learn if you try to memorize them all at once, so you're better off learning the ones you need as you complete your daily tasks on the Mac. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:38 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: new mac user please help I will try this option and let you all know how it works. Also you mentioned the quickstart voiceover tutorial and yes I did this and it has helped a little. Of course I have a lot of knew keyboard commands to memorize and it will take a while. Thank you for your help. Will try your recommendation soon. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of isaac Sent: February-26-14 9:56 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: new mac user please help To switch voices press control option command left arrow and right arrow and use the up and arrows to to make ajustments. On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:48 AM, Zoe Fiogkos fiog...@rogers.com wrote: Hi everyone, so I finally took the big dive and got my new iMac and of course coming from the world of windows I'm totally lost. However I am also excited to learn something new. I did purchase apple care and I also belong to this great list so these options should help, and even though I feel like I'm at the bottom of a huge mountain with the peak no where in sight I'm looking forward to climbing and exploring this new mountain. The first thing I did is the voiceover tutorial and that helped a little. My first questions that I need help with is as follows. One of the reasons I went with Mac is because apple offers voiceover in other languages and one of those languages is my native tongue. I've downloaded the voice that is assigned to my native tongue which is Greek. I have also added the keyboard input source of Greek, up until this point everything is okay. I figured out that to change the keyboard layout from Canadian English to Greek the hotkey is command spacebar, again great it works. Heres where the first problem comes in. when I open the notes from the doc and I start typing everything is okay, but when I press command spacebar to switch to the Greek voiceover says spot light search, it types in Greek but not in the body of the document and of course when I press enter it takes me to the internet. Can anyone help. I thought about trying it out on pages which is listed in the doc but I don't think I have pages even though its listed in the doc. The second problem is I can't find a hotkey for switching voices/languages with a hotkey. Does anyone know how I can do this using the keyboard? I don't want to always want to half to open the voiceover utility or system preferences just to switch voices or languages, I'm assuming and hoping there is a hotkey for this action. Of course I have a thousand more questions but let's start with these, and hopefully someone can help me with this before I move to something else. I would appreciate any help and advice. Thanks in advance, Your friendly neighbourhood lister and new Mac user, Zoe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: How does conversation threading work on the Mac?
Hey all, I am trying to finally learn using the newer mail layout in other words not classic view. Two questions . One when viewing a thread if you come across a message in the thread that you don't want to delete is there a way to jump to th next message in the thread? I often delete the messages I have read but like to save the messages I might want to reference later. also when you delete messages and a new message comes in to that thread do the messages you have already deleted reappear in the thread count or since you deleted them the response is just treated as a new individual message. Thanks, On Feb 20, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, For me, when coming upon a conversation, I press return on it, which opens the entire conversation and the first message in the conversation will start being read by VO. I Stop Interacting with the message, then I can go VO-right or VO-left reading each of the messages in the thread. I can press the Delete key to remove the message I'm reading and can press cmd-w to close the entire thread and again press the Delete key to remove the whole thread of messages. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Feb 20, 2014, at 2:29 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Works real well. Just have mail orgnaize messages by conversation. Then, when you come across a thread of messages, you will be informed how many messages there are. To actually open the conversation, use the right arrow key alone. Now, you can move down message by message. To close the conversation, use the left arrow. Then, when you press the delete key, you take out all messages in that conversation. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 20, 2014, at 3:08 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello all, for those who use it. How do you use conversation threading on the Mac with Mail? Previously, I was using the standard view with Mail where all messages come in at once and arrowing up to hear each one with the preview pain turned on. I have also messed around with the classic view of mail but didn't really like that much because I found at times I was losing my place when I get a lot of messages e.g. from this list. So have switched back to the standard view. Now though, I'd like to have a go at conversation threading and for those who use it could you tell me how it works and more importantly how effectively you can use it with Voiceover. Many thanks Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: How does conversation threading work on the Mac?
There are several ways to go about it. When you're focused on a conversation in the message list, you can press VO-backslash or right-arrow to open it. I consider the arrow method to be less reliable, though. Then you can down-arrow through the messages in that conversation. You can also press VO-J when on a conversation in the message list. This will take you to the text of the first message. The only problem with that method for me is that in order to go to another message body, you have to stop interacting with that message text, then VO right. I use this method myself: I find a conversation in the list, stop interacting with the message column, then VO right to the content area. You can VO-left- and right-arrow through the conversation. The only problem a lot of people have with this is that you hear embedded a lot and the sender and subject of the message when you do this. This doesn't really bother me. Opening the conversation with vO-backslash is the other method I use, because I havd set my preview to five lines, and I can hear enough of the message that way to find out whether I want to hear more when I interact with the content area. there are a couple of settings to check. First, in the viewing tab of Mail preferences, set it up the way you want, whether you want the last message first or vice versa. Also, if you use related messages these will show up again in your mailbox and be included in your message count. Otherwise, the message count in the conversation doesn't include past messages. A very important thing to keep in mind when using the new view is that the messages will be marked as read once you've focused on them, unless you decide not to use the preview pane. Sorry about the long-winded post, but it's a wee bit complicated. :) Hth, teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:54 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: Hey all, I am trying to finally learn using the newer mail layout in other words not classic view. Two questions . One when viewing a thread if you come across a message in the thread that you don't want to delete is there a way to jump to th next message in the thread? I often delete the messages I have read but like to save the messages I might want to reference later. also when you delete messages and a new message comes in to that thread do the messages you have already deleted reappear in the thread count or since you deleted them the response is just treated as a new individual message. Thanks, On Feb 20, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, For me, when coming upon a conversation, I press return on it, which opens the entire conversation and the first message in the conversation will start being read by VO. I Stop Interacting with the message, then I can go VO-right or VO-left reading each of the messages in the thread. I can press the Delete key to remove the message I'm reading and can press cmd-w to close the entire thread and again press the Delete key to remove the whole thread of messages. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Feb 20, 2014, at 2:29 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Works real well. Just have mail orgnaize messages by conversation. Then, when you come across a thread of messages, you will be informed how many messages there are. To actually open the conversation, use the right arrow key alone. Now, you can move down message by message. To close the conversation, use the left arrow. Then, when you press the delete key, you take out all messages in that conversation. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 20, 2014, at 3:08 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello all, for those who use it. How do you use conversation threading on the Mac with Mail? Previously, I was using the standard view with Mail where all messages come in at once and arrowing up to hear each one with the preview pain turned on. I have also messed around with the classic view of mail but didn't really like that much because I found at times I was losing my place when I get a lot of messages e.g. from this list. So have switched back to the standard view. Now though, I'd like to have a go at conversation threading and for those who use it could you tell me how it works and more importantly how effectively you can use it with Voiceover. Many thanks Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
Re: How does conversation threading work on the Mac?
Hey Teresa, No not long winded but helpful. Thanks for explaining. The strange thing is I couldn't get VO back slash to expand the messages in a thread but in the same place the right arrow did the trick, will have to play around with this, as I definitely now see some major benefits to using this view for mail with threading instead of the classic view. Thanks again On Feb 26, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: There are several ways to go about it. When you're focused on a conversation in the message list, you can press VO-backslash or right-arrow to open it. I consider the arrow method to be less reliable, though. Then you can down-arrow through the messages in that conversation. You can also press VO-J when on a conversation in the message list. This will take you to the text of the first message. The only problem with that method for me is that in order to go to another message body, you have to stop interacting with that message text, then VO right. I use this method myself: I find a conversation in the list, stop interacting with the message column, then VO right to the content area. You can VO-left- and right-arrow through the conversation. The only problem a lot of people have with this is that you hear embedded a lot and the sender and subject of the message when you do this. This doesn't really bother me. Opening the conversation with vO-backslash is the other method I use, because I havd set my preview to five lines, and I can hear enough of the message that way to find out whether I want to hear more when I interact with the content area. there are a couple of settings to check. First, in the viewing tab of Mail preferences, set it up the way you want, whether you want the last message first or vice versa. Also, if you use related messages these will show up again in your mailbox and be included in your message count. Otherwise, the message count in the conversation doesn't include past messages. A very important thing to keep in mind when using the new view is that the messages will be marked as read once you've focused on them, unless you decide not to use the preview pane. Sorry about the long-winded post, but it's a wee bit complicated. :) Hth, teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:54 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: Hey all, I am trying to finally learn using the newer mail layout in other words not classic view. Two questions . One when viewing a thread if you come across a message in the thread that you don't want to delete is there a way to jump to th next message in the thread? I often delete the messages I have read but like to save the messages I might want to reference later. also when you delete messages and a new message comes in to that thread do the messages you have already deleted reappear in the thread count or since you deleted them the response is just treated as a new individual message. Thanks, On Feb 20, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, For me, when coming upon a conversation, I press return on it, which opens the entire conversation and the first message in the conversation will start being read by VO. I Stop Interacting with the message, then I can go VO-right or VO-left reading each of the messages in the thread. I can press the Delete key to remove the message I'm reading and can press cmd-w to close the entire thread and again press the Delete key to remove the whole thread of messages. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Feb 20, 2014, at 2:29 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Works real well. Just have mail orgnaize messages by conversation. Then, when you come across a thread of messages, you will be informed how many messages there are. To actually open the conversation, use the right arrow key alone. Now, you can move down message by message. To close the conversation, use the left arrow. Then, when you press the delete key, you take out all messages in that conversation. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 20, 2014, at 3:08 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello all, for those who use it. How do you use conversation threading on the Mac with Mail? Previously, I was using the standard view with Mail where all messages come in at once and arrowing up to hear each one with the preview pain turned on. I have also messed around with the classic view of mail but didn't really like that much because I found at times I was losing my place when I get a lot of messages e.g. from this list. So have switched back to the standard view. Now though, I'd like to
Re: finger computer for OCR
This is not the first device of the type. It may well be the smallest. I beta tested a similar device a few years ago to help assess how it might work for blind users. The problem with these devices and the blind is, these devices require exact tracking of each line of text. They also require that the user keep the text in very good vertical alignment. Both tasks are easy for sighted people, and almost impossible for blind people. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 26 Feb 2014, at 5:45, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, First, forgive the cross-post and the OT post., but as I know reading is a subject that occupies much space on both lists, it seemed appropriate to post to both. Below is a link I received to an article about a new product under development. It’s a device that you wear on your finger, and then scan across a line of text to hear it read out loud. It obviously has a ways to go before it would be practical to use, but wow, what cool possibilities it could open up, if the OCR capability is decent. http://news.discovery.com/tech/gear-and-gadgets/finger-computer-reads-books-aloud-140221.htm?utm_source=TWutm_medium=DNewsutm_campaign=DNewsSocial Cheers, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: finger computer for OCR
Actually, it would be much more difficult to focus than the iPhone. You need to know where each line of text starts, and you need to track each line precisely whilst keeping the text with as little skew as possible. If you think the iPhone is difficult for OCR, you would find this device virtually unusable. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 26 Feb 2014, at 12:09, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi Erik, I don’t think anyone would ever read War and Peace with either device, but it could provide an interesting alternative for short documents. Probably similar to Prismo and Text Grabber, but it seems it might be easier to focus once you got the hang of it. Cheers, Donna On Feb 25, 2014, at 11:47 AM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: Hi Donna, I've personally been intrigued by the Ectaco C-Pen 3.5 for over a year now. I haven't bought the thing because my business started to impload last year around my personal problems and there was never enough resources to expense the $150 unit. The reviews on it are extremely mixed and I have not been able to reach the company to set up an evaluation but the promo material looks pretty awsome. Best, Erik Burggraaf Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2014-02-25, at 11:45 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, First, forgive the cross-post and the OT post., but as I know reading is a subject that occupies much space on both lists, it seemed appropriate to post to both. Below is a link I received to an article about a new product under development. It’s a device that you wear on your finger, and then scan across a line of text to hear it read out loud. It obviously has a ways to go before it would be practical to use, but wow, what cool possibilities it could open up, if the OCR capability is decent. http://news.discovery.com/tech/gear-and-gadgets/finger-computer-reads-books-aloud-140221.htm?utm_source=TWutm_medium=DNewsutm_campaign=DNewsSocial Cheers, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
What view am I using in Mail?
Hi all Subject says it all, what view am I in if Mail displays the from, subject, date received etc in that order? Oh yes it's status, from, subject then date received? Using Os X 10.9.2 on a Macbook Pro 2012 model. Thanks! -- Regards Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: How does conversation threading work on the Mac?
Hi Teresa. What used to work really well for me, is opening the conversation with right-arrow, then using VO-J to interact with each message. I press the delete key to get rid of the message, and I'm right back on my message list where I can hear the name of the next participant in the conversation. I prefer this method because if you open the message by pressing Return or command-O, you get the subject name spoken at the beginning of every message, then when you delete that message, the name of the mailbox you're in is spoken. It's an efficiency drain. The only trouble with this method I use is that as of Mavericks, pressing VO-J doesn't work every time. I've seen this on my partner's and my Mac so it's not just specific to me. When I get into this mode, it requires three presses of VO-J to go from being int eh conversation list to the message body. Sometimes it works as it should, with one press, but most of the time it does not. It's a shame that one never got fixed. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 27/02/2014, at 8:26 am, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: There are several ways to go about it. When you're focused on a conversation in the message list, you can press VO-backslash or right-arrow to open it. I consider the arrow method to be less reliable, though. Then you can down-arrow through the messages in that conversation. You can also press VO-J when on a conversation in the message list. This will take you to the text of the first message. The only problem with that method for me is that in order to go to another message body, you have to stop interacting with that message text, then VO right. I use this method myself: I find a conversation in the list, stop interacting with the message column, then VO right to the content area. You can VO-left- and right-arrow through the conversation. The only problem a lot of people have with this is that you hear embedded a lot and the sender and subject of the message when you do this. This doesn't really bother me. Opening the conversation with vO-backslash is the other method I use, because I havd set my preview to five lines, and I can hear enough of the message that way to find out whether I want to hear more when I interact with the content area. there are a couple of settings to check. First, in the viewing tab of Mail preferences, set it up the way you want, whether you want the last message first or vice versa. Also, if you use related messages these will show up again in your mailbox and be included in your message count. Otherwise, the message count in the conversation doesn't include past messages. A very important thing to keep in mind when using the new view is that the messages will be marked as read once you've focused on them, unless you decide not to use the preview pane. Sorry about the long-winded post, but it's a wee bit complicated. :) Hth, teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:54 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: Hey all, I am trying to finally learn using the newer mail layout in other words not classic view. Two questions . One when viewing a thread if you come across a message in the thread that you don't want to delete is there a way to jump to th next message in the thread? I often delete the messages I have read but like to save the messages I might want to reference later. also when you delete messages and a new message comes in to that thread do the messages you have already deleted reappear in the thread count or since you deleted them the response is just treated as a new individual message. Thanks, On Feb 20, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, For me, when coming upon a conversation, I press return on it, which opens the entire conversation and the first message in the conversation will start being read by VO. I Stop Interacting with the message, then I can go VO-right or VO-left reading each of the messages in the thread. I can press the Delete key to remove the message I'm reading and can press cmd-w to close the entire thread and again press the Delete key to remove the whole thread of messages. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Feb 20, 2014, at 2:29 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Works real well. Just have mail orgnaize messages by conversation. Then, when you come across a thread of messages, you will be informed how many messages there are. To actually open the conversation, use the right arrow key alone. Now, you can move down message by message. To close the conversation, use the left arrow. Then, when you press the delete key, you take out all messages in that conversation. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full
Re: help with a few commands
Giant thanks Anne, I figured it was something simple. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Feb 26, 2014, at 1:40 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: First of all, on a laptop, Home is FN-Left Arrow, End is FN-Right arrow, Page up is FN-Up arrow and Page down is FN-Down arrow. Go to top of window = VO-Cmd-Home; Go to bottom of window = VO-Cmd-End; Go to first visible item = VO-Home; Go to last visible item = VO-End; Go to first item = VO-Shift-Home; Go to last item = VO-Shift-End. Within text areas such as text documents, text fields and e-mails, you can use the normal arrow keys. Here are some commands: Go to beginning of document, Cmd-Up arrow; Go to end of document, Cmd-Down arrow; Go to beginning of line, Cmd-Left arrow; Go to end of line, Cmd-Right arrow; Go to beginning of paragraph, Option-Up arrow; Go to end of paragraph, Option-Down arrow; Go Right one character, Right arrow; Go left one character, Left arrow; Go right one word, Option-Right arrow; Go left one word, Option-Left arrow. Adding the Shift key will highlight text. Cheers, Anne On 26 Feb 2014, at 18:24, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: First to go to the top of a screen or bottom of a screen the commands are vo function shift left arrow and right arrow that is control option function left arrow and right arrow. On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I am forgetting or just never really knew, the commands to do the following. Go to top of a screen or web page. Go to bottom of a screen or web page.Go to top of a mail message and bottom of said message. I'll take either the VO commands or the general Mac commands or both. Thanks. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Running Windows on Mac, on a budget
Thank you for the advice so far. I don't know why I said parallels, what I really meant was Boot Camp. I do want the experiences to be separate. If I have a windows installation cd and I'm using boot camp, are the drivers found automatically for me? Traci On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote:I Hi. I've had no trouble running windows seven ultimate 32 bit or 64 bit via bootcamp. It'll most likely be the best option. You're going to have an easier time using a native install as opposed to a virtual machine. And as for hardware/driver/application conflicts, I've had none to speak of with my native windows install and that is on five different macs at this point. If you can afford the new mac mini server edition, that gives you two 1tb internal hard drives, an Intel I7 quad core processor, and more ram than you'll probably need with the ability to add more later on if required. Just my two cents... Cameron. On 2/26/14, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com wrote: Well at times running windows on a mac is more a nightmare than a day dream in my experience. But once you work through all the headaches, it can be done pretty well. First, you won't be using Parallels. It's not accessible. You'll have to use VMware fusion if you want a virtual machine or of course you can use Boot Camp if you don't mind separating your Windows and Mac experience. The biggest problem with VMware fusion is that most of my sighted friends using Macs don't use it. It doesn't have nearly the ratings of Parallel and except for accessibility doesn't seem to be of interest to people I know. So getting help is sometimes challenging. If you want your experience to be particularly snappy in windows, you'll have to have at least three cores to dedicate to the Windows box. Fortunately the Mac doesn't need so much. I had mine on a Mac Air but it was pretty sluggish and crashed a lot. I finally wen to a Macbook Pro with maximum specs and it's running quite well. But that doesn't address your interest to do this on the cheap. I think your copy of WindowEyes will run in the virtual machine with Windows7 but check with them to be sure. NVDA certainly will of course. be prepared for headaches though. You have to map some keys, resolve whatever conflicts arise about hardware and applications etc. I've found it to be pretty challenging at times. Reliability of help from the lists has been hit and miss too. Having said that, I'd probably do it again. On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:53 AM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have a day dream/goal to happen before the end of the year. I'd like to have a Mac to run Windows via parallels. We are on a budget, so buying a super duper iMac is not doable. I was wondering about a Mac Mini for running Windows. We have a TV that can be used as a monitor and we have a Zagg bluetooth keyboard. We also have a Microsoft connection, so fingers crossed on a good deal for a Windows CD. BTW, I want the best bang for my buck. :) I want OSX Windows to run smoothly, if not snappy. :) No sluggishness. I'm open to any advice you have for me. Here are a few questions off the top of my head. 1. Which Windows Oporating system should I go for? 2. Will NVDA run on that system. I'm guessing that my copy of window eyes is too far out of date. I think I have 7.2 3. I'm going to paste a link of a local Mac store that sells pre-owned Macs. Will you offer up your knowledge on the best deal? If there is one. Power of the machine, price, etc. http://www.themacstore.com/parts/code/PM_CU_MM_IN I currently have a MacBook Air, which I believe has enough oomph to it, but the SSD isn't very large, 128GB. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this topic. Traci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
Re: What view am I using in Mail?
That sounds like classic view to me. Can you VO left right arrow between those columns? On Feb 26, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all Subject says it all, what view am I in if Mail displays the from, subject, date received etc in that order? Oh yes it's status, from, subject then date received? Using Os X 10.9.2 on a Macbook Pro 2012 model. Thanks! -- Regards Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Bad News About iBooks
Hi, folks, I've discovered that unfortunately, VO only reads the first paragraph of each chapter in the latest Mavericks update. This has deteriorated usability even further. Does anyone else get similar results? I do think that if you invoke system speech from the edit menu, it will read the entire chapter. However, I use mostly braille, so this doesn't help me much. I guess it'll be strictly back to iOS until or unless this gets fixed. I bought this book in the iBooks store, so it could be some artifact in this specific title. Teresa We're made of star stuff.--Carl Sagan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Bad News About iBooks
This is terrible! I can no longer read any of the iBooks on my system! You fix some, you break some. That is what software updates bring! You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 26, 2014, at 4:46 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, folks, I've discovered that unfortunately, VO only reads the first paragraph of each chapter in the latest Mavericks update. This has deteriorated usability even further. Does anyone else get similar results? I do think that if you invoke system speech from the edit menu, it will read the entire chapter. However, I use mostly braille, so this doesn't help me much. I guess it'll be strictly back to iOS until or unless this gets fixed. I bought this book in the iBooks store, so it could be some artifact in this specific title. Teresa We're made of star stuff.--Carl Sagan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: finger computer for OCR
Actually, David, I'd have to disagree. This may be one of those subjective things that's different for different people. But I used an Optacon as a kid, and with a little practice had no problem moving the device across the page. I think that for me, having the physical page as an anchor would be easier than just figuring out where in the air to let my iPhone hover. But again, this may be a subjective thing. Cheers, Donna On Feb 26, 2014, at 2:14 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, it would be much more difficult to focus than the iPhone. You need to know where each line of text starts, and you need to track each line precisely whilst keeping the text with as little skew as possible. If you think the iPhone is difficult for OCR, you would find this device virtually unusable. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 26 Feb 2014, at 12:09, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi Erik, I don't think anyone would ever read War and Peace with either device, but it could provide an interesting alternative for short documents. Probably similar to Prismo and Text Grabber, but it seems it might be easier to focus once you got the hang of it. Cheers, Donna On Feb 25, 2014, at 11:47 AM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: Hi Donna, I've personally been intrigued by the Ectaco C-Pen 3.5 for over a year now. I haven't bought the thing because my business started to impload last year around my personal problems and there was never enough resources to expense the $150 unit. The reviews on it are extremely mixed and I have not been able to reach the company to set up an evaluation but the promo material looks pretty awsome. Best, Erik Burggraaf Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2014-02-25, at 11:45 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, First, forgive the cross-post and the OT post., but as I know reading is a subject that occupies much space on both lists, it seemed appropriate to post to both. Below is a link I received to an article about a new product under development. It's a device that you wear on your finger, and then scan across a line of text to hear it read out loud. It obviously has a ways to go before it would be practical to use, but wow, what cool possibilities it could open up, if the OCR capability is decent. http://news.discovery.com/tech/gear-and-gadgets/finger-computer-reads-books-aloud-140221.htm?utm_source=TWutm_medium=DNewsutm_campaign=DNewsSocial Cheers, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Bad News About iBooks
Did you try reading some books on the computer? I may open another book now and see if I get the same results. Teresa Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P. Feynman On Feb 26, 2014, at 2:53 PM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: This is terrible! I can no longer read any of the iBooks on my system! You fix some, you break some. That is what software updates bring! You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 26, 2014, at 4:46 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, folks, I've discovered that unfortunately, VO only reads the first paragraph of each chapter in the latest Mavericks update. This has deteriorated usability even further. Does anyone else get similar results? I do think that if you invoke system speech from the edit menu, it will read the entire chapter. However, I use mostly braille, so this doesn't help me much. I guess it'll be strictly back to iOS until or unless this gets fixed. I bought this book in the iBooks store, so it could be some artifact in this specific title. Teresa We're made of star stuff.--Carl Sagan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Bad News About iBooks
Absolutely! I can't even read a paragraph any more! You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 26, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Did you try reading some books on the computer? I may open another book now and see if I get the same results. Teresa Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P. Feynman On Feb 26, 2014, at 2:53 PM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: This is terrible! I can no longer read any of the iBooks on my system! You fix some, you break some. That is what software updates bring! You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 26, 2014, at 4:46 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, folks, I've discovered that unfortunately, VO only reads the first paragraph of each chapter in the latest Mavericks update. This has deteriorated usability even further. Does anyone else get similar results? I do think that if you invoke system speech from the edit menu, it will read the entire chapter. However, I use mostly braille, so this doesn't help me much. I guess it'll be strictly back to iOS until or unless this gets fixed. I bought this book in the iBooks store, so it could be some artifact in this specific title. Teresa We're made of star stuff.--Carl Sagan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: First thoughts 10.9.2 much improved for VoiceOver
I agree, much better, and My k760 works like a charm... Angelo a.rock...@gmail.com On Feb 26, 2014, at 9:56 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there Yes, and I am thankful that Finder is behaving itself better. I figured out some work arounds before, but this is so much better. Regards, Gigi On Feb 26, 2014, at 12:39 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: After using the latest updates for a few hours and having the computer go to sleep I have to give Apple a big pat on the back for this update and VoiceOver improvements. I know on 10.9.1 not all of us were having serious problems, I think I had one of the worst experiences, and since the 10.9.2 update it's like having a new computer. So weird. I still notice some sluggishness between switching apps, but so far everything for me is improved except being able to get my Logitech k760 to work. The email experience is back to be good as messages are opening quickly and loading in classic view of mail, safari seems to be opening on the appropriate pages instead of landing me in the toolbar, and so far the contextual menu works in iTuens. So thanks Apple and hopefully they will continue with making VoiceOver improvements. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
