Any way to reach status menu items that do not fit on the screen?

2014-04-18 Thread Vic
Hi,
I noticed that VoiceOver does not allow reaching the status menu items that 
do not fit on the screen. For example, if my screen only fits a certain 
number of status menu icons, I seem not to be able to beyond them, i.e. 
activate the ones that are off-screen and need to be scrolled to.

Any ideas if this can be resolved?? I'd like to avoid closing some of my 
running apps if I don't have to.

Thanks,
Vic


PS This is on Mac OS (Maverick).

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Re: Status Menus Are Gone

2014-04-18 Thread Jane
I made sure cursor tracking is on and I routed the VO cursor to the keyboard, 
but I don't see a differene. Unless I missed a setting somwhere.

Jane




On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:34 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 That's a good idea Cara.  I've seen that happen in the past when I've forgot 
 to turn cursor tracking back on with VO-shift-f3 after doing whatever.  It 
 did cause these sorts of frustrations that didn't seem logical.  Certainly 
 worth a try.
 
 Later...
  
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 9:38 PM, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote:
 
 Hi Jane,
 
 Out of curiosity, have you checked your cursor tracking settings? It sounds 
 like your VO cursor might be routed to your mouse pointer.
 
 This is just a guess but it might be worth a look before you go the route of 
 a reinstall.
 
 HTH
 
 
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 On Apr 17, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If I do this, am I going to have to somehow re-authorize thiwcomputer? I 
 think I have maybe one authorization left.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 7:26 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 That should be the one.  It's starting to look like you may need to do a 
 re-install.  I wouldn't go the total clean install route yet.  You could 
 try the Re-install option in the Recovery partition.  This would install 
 the newest MacOS onto your system, hopefully fixing any issues that exist.  
 A good backup is preferred prior to attempting this but it is quicker and 
 less problematic than a clean install.  I think it's worth a try for you.
 
 Let me know if you need assistance getting started with this if you choose 
 to go this way.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Are you talking about the BAttery plugin under Menu Extras? It won't let 
 me open that.  Or do I need to look elsewhere in the Core SErvices folder?
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hmmm.  I wouldn't bother doing another repair after this, as some items 
 just don't seem to repair themselves.  How about you try the following:
 
 * Go to your Finder.
 * Open your Macintosh HD
 * Open the System folder.
 * Open the Library folder
 * Open the Core Services folder.
 * Open the Battery item.
 
 Now try accessing your Menu Extras again with VO-m-m and see if the 
 Battery Status menu is available.  If it is, then do the same process to 
 get some of the other extras back onto the Status Menus.  If that doesn't 
 do it, let me know.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I am repairing permissions for the third tie now and I am down to one 
 permission that needs to be repaired. Interestingly, it has nothing to 
 do with Status menus. It has to do with Safari. I still can't access the 
 extra menus, though.
 Jane
 
 
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Don't rush to the reformat, that is a drastic and usually unnecessary 
 task.  Try to do a repair permissions first.  To do so...
 
 * Go to the Finder.
 * Press cmd-shift-u to open the Utilities folder.
 * Navigate to the Disk Utility app and open it.
 * From the table of disks, select your Macintosh HD.
 * Stop Interacting with the table and select the First Aid tab.
 * Navigate to the Repair Disk Permissions button and press it with 
 VO-space.
 * Wait patiently as it does its task.
 
 Sometimes this needs performed more than once to fix most permission 
 errors.  In some cases, you'll need to perform this from the Recovery 
 Partition, but I'll wait to see if this does the job first.  By the 
 way, what exactly happens when you press the VO-m-m command?  Is there 
 an alert sound or simply takes you somewhere but no Menu Extras are 
 available.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 16, 2014, at 4:16 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yep, I have tried with both. It doesn't work I bet I am going to have 
 to reformat and re-install once I have stuff backed up, *sigh*
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Apr 16, 2014, at 6:13 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Are you using VO-m twice or control-F8 to get to the status menus?  
 This is not typical behavior.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 
 Mountain Lion
 
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 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
 
 On Apr 16, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi there.
 I tried both 

Re: words still being corrected

2014-04-18 Thread Andrew Head
Hi Alex, Thanks for letting me know about spell check, I had a look in the edit 
menu of pages and saw an option under spelling and grammar that said check 
spelling while typing, and another that said, correct spelling while typing. I 
unchecked both of those so will see what happens when I do more writing 
tonight. :) 
Thanks again for your much appreciated responses. :) 
Hope you have a great day, 
Andrew 
On 18 Apr 2014, at 8:21 am, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

 Some apps have auto-correct settings in their own preferences, independent of 
 the system-wide setting. Check for that in the apps you find this happens. 
 Also remember that spellcheck and auto-correct are two different items in 
 most cases.
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 5:57 PM, Andrew Head ath...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I turned off auto correct ages ago, but at times, when I type in pages or 
 the messages apps, I find my words are still being corrected or suggestions 
 being offered. If someone can help me out that would be great, I don't want 
 any automatic corrections as I spell check my documents myself and writing a 
 novel that has strange place and character names and I dislike it when the 
 computer tries to correct things. this doesn't happen all the time, but for 
 some reason it's still happening even though auto correct is turned off.
 kind regards
 andrew 
 
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Re: two applications upgraded

2014-04-18 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
good morning tim, ok i laready check the download newly upgrades in background. 
i dont want to turn off my notification because i use it a lot. the, then today 
my itunes is opening on the background even if i don't put it on my logging 
items. do you thing my computer was vireus? i dont think so, or maybe just a 
script, thanks in advance 
On 17 Apr 2014, at 09:22 pm, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 It appears to be an automatic thing when you have the Download in the 
 Background checkbox checked in the AppStore pane of System Preferences.  I 
 believe that if you uncheck this box, those messages won't always come up.  
 Other than that, you could turn on Do Not Disturb in the Notification 
 Centre and those alerts wouldn't happen.  Then again, no alerts would which 
 maybe is what you are hoping for.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 why does eveytime i open up my computer i hear this voice.
 actualy i do have imovie update and xcode update, but i dont want to hear it 
 everytime i open my mac
 
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Commenting and replying to comments on YouTube

2014-04-18 Thread Christine Grassman
Folks, this is driving me batty. If I interact with the comment on this frame, 
I get a bunch of stuff, like numbers, the word stream, and then I have to play 
around reading the comments. I can usually manage to enter a new comment under 
share your thoughts. However, in an attempt to reply, I cannot get it to work. 
I've tried linking to the Comments from email, clicking on reply, clicking 
where it says button; I've tried hitting Return, as well as VO space. Can 
anyone help with this?
Christine

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Re: Commenting and replying to comments on YouTube

2014-04-18 Thread isaac
I can't get it to work either.
On Apr 18, 2014, at 8:12 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Folks, this is driving me batty. If I interact with the comment on this 
 frame, I get a bunch of stuff, like numbers, the word stream, and then I have 
 to play around reading the comments. I can usually manage to enter a new 
 comment under share your thoughts. However, in an attempt to reply, I cannot 
 get it to work. I've tried linking to the Comments from email, clicking on 
 reply, clicking where it says button; I've tried hitting Return, as well as 
 VO space. Can anyone help with this?
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Oh, Dear, Slacker Problem Again . . .

2014-04-18 Thread Christine Grassman
Despite Slacker's fantastic job making its iPhone app accessible once again, I 
have run into a snag they clearly did not anticipate.  I received an unusual 
activity message while listening; I had the audacity to spend some time 
exploring a bunch of different stations in a short period of time. I was asked 
for my password, but then, asked to type the text in the image. I tried 
closing and reopening the app; tried rebooting my phone. Still stuck. 
I wrote to them, and Tweeted as well; no response so far.  Meanwhile, a 
subscription for which I paid is unusable, and I cannot seem to figure out 
where on the web site I can go to attempt a workaround to access my account. I 
cannot locate any log in or account link.
Christine

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Re: Renaming and some other questions

2014-04-18 Thread Jessica
I cannot make the voiceover move command work. Can somebody please remind me 
what it is. How do I use it and when?
Jessica
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On Apr 17, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Ramy Moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com wrote:

 don't know sir Alex how can I thank you.
 your explanation is excellent. thanks so much.
 is  there a way to know the time while working in pro tools?
 
 On 4/17/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 It depends on the view you are using. I recommend you read my Finder guide,
 which explains all about selecting multiple items:
 http://www.applevis.com/guides/mac-os-x/getting-started-os-x-finder
 On Apr 16, 2014, at 8:54 PM, Ramy Moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 sir Alex:
 thanks for your response.
 concerning windows, I was using 2 windows in finder, I didn't try to
 use command n, I will try that.
 concerning the escape key, in all menus, even the vo+m to go to the
 apple menu, escape can not close the window.
 
 what do you mean by interacting with my list of files? I hit cmd}\}2
 and after I go to any folder, I find the table, I interact with it, is
 it what you mean?
 
 
 On 4/16/14, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 Hi,
 
 In addition to Alex's responses:
 
 3.  If these windows are in different applications, then cmd-` will not
 work.  The cmd-` only works within windows of the same application.  You
 can
 use cmd-tab to cycle between applications.
 
 4.  I've never seen this either.  What kind of menu were you in?
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 16, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 To rename, press enter. To select, interact with your list of files and
 press vo-cmd-enter on each one to select it (note that you must press
 this
 twice on the first item you select). If you are not using Mavericks or
 above, use vo-cmd-space instead of vo-cmd-enter.
 
 Escape closes menus, and I've never heard of it not doing so. Are you
 possibly not focused where you think you are?
 As to windows, are you sure you opened multiple windows? you may have
 Finder set to not open folders in new windows, or you did not use cmd-n
 when you opened your second folder.
 On Apr 16, 2014, at 1:26 PM, ramy moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi all:
 
 With more and more using of my mac, I can discover somethings very
 interesting for me.
 But I got some questions if I can ask:
 1-I need to rename a folder, I hit the vo+shift +m but can not find
 the
 rename.
 2-If I have a folder with many songs, I need to select only some
 songs,
 how can I select some? I tried shift space, ctrl shift space, but no
 luck.
 3-I know that command accent can cycle between open Windows, I have 2
 open windows that I need to copy and past files from and to. Using
 command accent do nothing. Why?
 4-When I'm in a menu, using the scape key didn't close this menu. I
 must
 hit option scape, and I discovered this by chance. So what is the
 right
 issue.
 
 Thanks so much for your help
 
 
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 faculty of musical education
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Re: two applications upgraded

2014-04-18 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

No, I don't believe that you have a virus.  If you accidentally left iTunes 
open when you shutdown your computer, it will likely come back on when you 
start it up.  Remember that, on a Mac, closing the window does not quit the 
application.  You must use Quit from the app menu or cmd-q to actually totally 
quit and remove the app from memory.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 18, 2014, at 3:00 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 good morning tim, ok i laready check the download newly upgrades in 
 background. i dont want to turn off my notification because i use it a lot. 
 the, then today my itunes is opening on the background even if i don't put it 
 on my logging items. do you thing my computer was vireus? i dont think so, or 
 maybe just a script, thanks in advance 
 On 17 Apr 2014, at 09:22 pm, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 It appears to be an automatic thing when you have the Download in the 
 Background checkbox checked in the AppStore pane of System Preferences.  I 
 believe that if you uncheck this box, those messages won't always come up.  
 Other than that, you could turn on Do Not Disturb in the Notification 
 Centre and those alerts wouldn't happen.  Then again, no alerts would which 
 maybe is what you are hoping for.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 why does eveytime i open up my computer i hear this voice.
 actualy i do have imovie update and xcode update, but i dont want to hear 
 it everytime i open my mac
 
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Re: Hotspots and Web Spots in Safari

2014-04-18 Thread Alex Hall
I guess that makes sense, but as you said, it is a really odd approach to take 
for a visually impaired audience. Do Web Spots work the same way? I set one on 
a forum, and when a new post came in, the spot stayed put, meaning that, as the 
page was now longer, the spot had moved up the page. The next update caused the 
spot to vanish entirely. This is rather disappointing, as I, and probably most 
people, expect a bookmark-like feature to stick to the bit of the page we put 
it on and not the visual location.
On Apr 17, 2014, at 11:51 PM, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote:

 Hi Alex,
 
 I believe you may be seeing an issue where the heading you marked is no 
 longer visible.
 
 When a hotspot moves out of the visible screen area or somehow becomes 
 invisible, VoiceOver can no longer move to it.
 
 So no, hotspots are not broken. One just needs to understand that these are 
 based on visual screen layout. Arguably this may not be the best or easiest 
 approach for the average blind / visually impaired user, but this is what we 
 have for the moment.
 
 Perhaps a spoken message letting the user know that the particular hotspot 
 has moved out of visual range may be in order.
 
 Hope this helps and have a great night!
 
 Smiles,
 
 Cara :)
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 On Apr 17, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I am working on a Safari article for new Mac users, and I thought I'd cover 
 hotspots and web spots. Now, though, I don't know if I should. Here's what i 
 did to try out hotspots:
 
 1. I went to an open page in Safari, navigated to a heading partway down it, 
 and pressed vo-shift-1.
 2. I hit vo-left a few times, then vo-1, and was taken to my spot. Great.
 3. I moved to the top of the page, tabbed a couple times, and hit vo-1. 
 Nothing at all happened.
 4. I pressed vo-1 again, chose my spot from the Hotspots menu, and nothing 
 happened.
 5. I hit vo-cmd-1, and was told the hotspot no longer exists.
 
 Did I do it wrong? I try hotspots every so often, and each time I remember 
 why I never use them... I'd love to know I'm wrong and that they work great, 
 but they seem like a broken and neglected feature to me. Thanks for any input.
 
 I did try Web Spots, and they didn't break immediately. However, I really 
 like that hotspots are associated with numbers; web spots require you to move 
 through a list sequentially, right? Are there major problems with web spots 
 as well, or do they work reliably?
 
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what is growl?

2014-04-18 Thread Jean Parker
Hello All and happy Friday:
I have read references to growl on this list before but have never understood 
what it is.  Could someone give an explanation especially its relation to 
voiceover?
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Re: what is growl?

2014-04-18 Thread Ray Foret Jr
In brief, Growel is an app that verblley notifies you when things happen in 
certain apps.  Before the notification center, it was the best way to get 
information in real time when apps did certain things.  Truth to tell, I never 
saw much benefit in it myself.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
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 Hello All and happy Friday:
 I have read references to growl on this list before but have never understood 
 what it is.  Could someone give an explanation especially its relation to 
 voiceover?
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Re: what is growl?

2014-04-18 Thread Chris Apple boy
Growl is a notifications system that most of us used before Os X 10.8 
Mountain Lion introduced the notification centre. It provides 
notifications for supported apps in the form of audio/visual 
notifications, the audio portion using the system voice to speak the 
notification.


Regards Chris

Happy Easter!

On 18/04/2014 16:25, Jean Parker wrote:

Hello All and happy Friday:
I have read references to growl on this list before but have never understood 
what it is.  Could someone give an explanation especially its relation to 
voiceover?
Jean



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Re: VO-J

2014-04-18 Thread Traci Duncan
Excellent!  Thank you!  Now if we could move to the previously linked item.  I 
would find this so handy in iTunes.  I constantly use VO-J while navigating LCD 
section, sources table, music brouser, then music table.  I'd love to be able 
to jump back/forth.  Tab doesn't always work for this.

Thanks again,
Traci
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 When you assign your command, choose move to linked item from the 
 navigation menu.
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Is there, or is there a way to create a trackpad gesture for VO-J?
 
 A little side note, I wish VO-shift-J would jump VoiceOver backwards.
 
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Re: VO-J

2014-04-18 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi.

I haven't been following this thread very close, but what about shift+VO+j
it does what you would like I supose.

Best regards Annie.Den 18/04/2014 kl. 18.12 skrev Traci Duncan 
our4p...@gmail.com:

 Excellent!  Thank you!  Now if we could move to the previously linked item.  
 I would find this so handy in iTunes.  I constantly use VO-J while navigating 
 LCD section, sources table, music brouser, then music table.  I'd love to be 
 able to jump back/forth.  Tab doesn't always work for this.
 
 Thanks again,
 Traci
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 A little side note, I wish VO-shift-J would jump VoiceOver backwards.
 
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Re: Oh, Dear, Slacker Problem Again . . .

2014-04-18 Thread Pamela Francis
Hi Christine,
I too am a slacker radio subscriber. Their direct phone number is 858-943-5000
You may get a recording, yet if you play with the menus, you will find a human 
who will talk to you. If you explain to them you are visually impaired and 
cannot reliably access their site, they will talk  you through the issue.

Pam Francis

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Despite Slacker's fantastic job making its iPhone app accessible once again, I 
have run into a snag they clearly did not anticipate.  I received an unusual 
activity message while listening; I had the audacity to spend some time 
exploring a bunch of different stations in a short period of time. I was asked 
for my password, but then, asked to type the text in the image. I tried 
closing and reopening the app; tried rebooting my phone. Still stuck. 
I wrote to them, and Tweeted as well; no response so far.  Meanwhile, a 
subscription for which I paid is unusable, and I cannot seem to figure out 
where on the web site I can go to attempt a workaround to access my account. I 
cannot locate any log in or account link.
Christine

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Re: VO-J

2014-04-18 Thread Traci Duncan
VO-shift-J moves me to the pop up item that popped up from the current item.

Maybe that is for when pop-overs occur?

Traci

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 Hi.
 
 I haven't been following this thread very close, but what about shift+VO+j
 it does what you would like I supose.
 
 Best regards Annie.Den 18/04/2014 kl. 18.12 skrev Traci Duncan 
 our4p...@gmail.com:
 
 Excellent!  Thank you!  Now if we could move to the previously linked item.  
 I would find this so handy in iTunes.  I constantly use VO-J while 
 navigating LCD section, sources table, music brouser, then music table.  I'd 
 love to be able to jump back/forth.  Tab doesn't always work for this.
 
 Thanks again,
 Traci
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video blogging

2014-04-18 Thread Maxwell Ivey
hello group; is there a site where i can upload my videos and have them shared 
on iTunes. i found blip and was going to try it but they are updating their 
system and aren't accepting new members right now. like most of you i need 
something cheap and easy to use. thanks for your help, max 

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Re: Keyboard Focus / Voice Over Cursor / Mouse Pointer

2014-04-18 Thread Robert C

Anne,
   I dont use Skype but imagine this works in any instant messaging as 
well.


   What I hear while typing is controlled by the verbosity settings? 
Here is what I would like to know. What are the steps to follow when I 
want to start a chat? Not how to initiate one but how to deal with the 
keyboard and VP focus. Once I have done this a time or two I should be 
ok. Until now, I have only disabled tracking when installing some apps. 
Thanks.


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fall behind the times are more dangerous still when they presume to 
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On 4/17/2014 10:32 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

Hello Robert,

What you hear when typing depends on how you have your keyboard echo set. What 
your correspondent has written can be read automatically in Skype if you have 
Growl installed, otherwise you need to navigate to it.

Cheers,

Anne


On 17 Apr 2014, at 20:23, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote:


Anne,
   This is an old message but of interest. Specifically, the cursor tracking 
when in a chat environment.

   If tracking is off, keyboard fozus is on the edit field, and VO is on the 
text the other person types, do you hear both spoken  or do you need to use 
commands? This is new to me and I wish to try a chat soon with a friend.

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They should both be changed regularly and for the same reason.
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On 1/24/2014 11:32 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

Hello Lee,

The keyboard focus is the position of the insertion point, which is shown on 
the screen as a tiny line between two characters. This is where your text will 
start if you begin typing.
The VoiceOver cursor is shown as a box around an area on the screen and you can 
change its size in the VoiceOver utility.
Normally the keyboard focus and the VoiceOver cursor are tied together so that 
VoiceOver tells you where you can enter information, but in a chat, you want to 
be able to read what the other person has written without moving the insertion 
point from the field where you type your reply, so you turn cursor tracking off.

In general, we don't need to worry about the mouse cursor, but some operations 
require the mouse to be on a specific element, in which case, you can bring the 
mouse cursor to the VO cursor with VO-Cmd-F5 if you don't have the mouse cursor 
tied to the other cursors already.
I prefer not to have my mouse cursor tied to the other cursors as I find it can 
cause some irritating jumping around.

Mouse keys allows you to pilot the mouse using either the numpad or the letter 
keys on the righthand side of the keyboard.

In VoiceOver utility, you can tell VO to speak the text under the mouse with no 
delay so that you can hear where your mouse pointer is. Moving the mouse 
pointer in this way can make some elements accessible which the VoiceOver 
cursor can't reach.

Cheers,

Anne


On 25 Jan 2014, at 02:40, Lee Jones leejones...@sky.com wrote:


Dear List I don't understand the difference between keyboard focus and voice 
over cursor. What can you do with one that you can't do withthe the other? Do 
people find mouse keys useful? There are shortcuts for mouse up mouse down, 
double click etc but I am not sure what they would be used for. In setttings is 
it best to have keyboard focus vo cursor and mouse pointer following each other 
or moving separately? I am running mavericks.

Many Thanks, Lee

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Re: Status Menus Are Gone

2014-04-18 Thread Jane
Can you walk me through the re-install? I haven't had to do that in a *looong* 
time.

Jane




On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:34 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 That's a good idea Cara.  I've seen that happen in the past when I've forgot 
 to turn cursor tracking back on with VO-shift-f3 after doing whatever.  It 
 did cause these sorts of frustrations that didn't seem logical.  Certainly 
 worth a try.
 
 Later...
  
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 9:38 PM, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote:
 
 Hi Jane,
 
 Out of curiosity, have you checked your cursor tracking settings? It sounds 
 like your VO cursor might be routed to your mouse pointer.
 
 This is just a guess but it might be worth a look before you go the route of 
 a reinstall.
 
 HTH
 
 
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 On Apr 17, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If I do this, am I going to have to somehow re-authorize thiwcomputer? I 
 think I have maybe one authorization left.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 7:26 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 That should be the one.  It's starting to look like you may need to do a 
 re-install.  I wouldn't go the total clean install route yet.  You could 
 try the Re-install option in the Recovery partition.  This would install 
 the newest MacOS onto your system, hopefully fixing any issues that exist.  
 A good backup is preferred prior to attempting this but it is quicker and 
 less problematic than a clean install.  I think it's worth a try for you.
 
 Let me know if you need assistance getting started with this if you choose 
 to go this way.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Are you talking about the BAttery plugin under Menu Extras? It won't let 
 me open that.  Or do I need to look elsewhere in the Core SErvices folder?
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hmmm.  I wouldn't bother doing another repair after this, as some items 
 just don't seem to repair themselves.  How about you try the following:
 
 * Go to your Finder.
 * Open your Macintosh HD
 * Open the System folder.
 * Open the Library folder
 * Open the Core Services folder.
 * Open the Battery item.
 
 Now try accessing your Menu Extras again with VO-m-m and see if the 
 Battery Status menu is available.  If it is, then do the same process to 
 get some of the other extras back onto the Status Menus.  If that doesn't 
 do it, let me know.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I am repairing permissions for the third tie now and I am down to one 
 permission that needs to be repaired. Interestingly, it has nothing to 
 do with Status menus. It has to do with Safari. I still can't access the 
 extra menus, though.
 Jane
 
 
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Don't rush to the reformat, that is a drastic and usually unnecessary 
 task.  Try to do a repair permissions first.  To do so...
 
 * Go to the Finder.
 * Press cmd-shift-u to open the Utilities folder.
 * Navigate to the Disk Utility app and open it.
 * From the table of disks, select your Macintosh HD.
 * Stop Interacting with the table and select the First Aid tab.
 * Navigate to the Repair Disk Permissions button and press it with 
 VO-space.
 * Wait patiently as it does its task.
 
 Sometimes this needs performed more than once to fix most permission 
 errors.  In some cases, you'll need to perform this from the Recovery 
 Partition, but I'll wait to see if this does the job first.  By the 
 way, what exactly happens when you press the VO-m-m command?  Is there 
 an alert sound or simply takes you somewhere but no Menu Extras are 
 available.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 16, 2014, at 4:16 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yep, I have tried with both. It doesn't work I bet I am going to have 
 to reformat and re-install once I have stuff backed up, *sigh*
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Apr 16, 2014, at 6:13 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Are you using VO-m twice or control-F8 to get to the status menus?  
 This is not typical behavior.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
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 Mountain Lion
 
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 On Apr 16, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi there.
 I tried both cycling VO off and on and a re-start of this computer. 
 It 

Re: Topic: Topic: reading brf files on the mac

2014-04-18 Thread Caitlyn and Maggie
Well, I wouldn't know about their IOS app since I use voice dream reader.
and, to each his own, I suppose.  It makes the world go round
Cheers!
Cait

On Apr 17, 2014, at 7:16 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:

 Yes, but Bookshare's iOS sucks compared to the BARD app. And who wants to add 
 BRF files from email or dropbox to bard all the time? I'd rather have more 
 NLS books. 
 
 Devin Prater
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 On Apr 17, 2014, at 17:52, Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Better to help bookshare out, I think.  Their library is already much bigger 
 then the nLS one.
 
 I also belive that NLS has it's own way of increasing it's library, and 
 volunteers submitting material isn't included in it.  I could be badly 
 mistaken, though!
 Cait
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 1:55 PM, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 perhaps its time that those of us with braille note taker devices start 
 volunteering some time to getting new braille books submitted to the NLS. 
 the only really bad hitch I see with this is the copyright laws here in the 
 US. If that doesn't turn out to be an issue, then we can all participate in 
 expanding the current library of braille materials from its very low 
 percentage to something far better. My one reason for us doing this is: we 
 need braille literacy and there just isn't enough available materials to go 
 around. The last braille loaner I tried to get from the local talking book 
 library was on backorder for several months. This, among other reasons, is 
 why we need to expand the electronic library versions. Having those files 
 available will mean that one can simply get them printed through a local 
 branch.
 
 anyway, it would be nice to be able to read braille from any document 
 around.
 
 -eric
 
 
 -- 2 of 5 --
 From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com
 Date: Apr 17 06:12AM -0700
 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/msg/1ce6a32a759c493b
 
 If you convert a file to html, louis will convert it to brf. That makes 
 sense, since the markup is text as well. Going the other way is a little 
 more problematic. Half the time Louis interprets braille italics as dots 
 4-6 in computer braille, putting a period before each word instead.
 
 Personally, even with programs such as Kurzweil, I always found back 
 translation to be less than desirable. There are too many variables, and 
 sometimes there are strange results with it. Saying this as primarily a 
 braille reader, there are very many more books available in audio and other 
 formats than in Braille. In my personal experience, I've started keeping 
 brf files in their format and using a Braille display to type in them, 
 rather than back-translating. Of course, I have the luxury of having a 
 braille display.
 
 Teresa
 
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Re: video blogging

2014-04-18 Thread Sean Paul
You can use blubrry which you can find at blubrry.com or you can also use 
libsyn which can be found at libsyn.com. Both of these sites are for media 
hosting  do produce an RSS feed which you than submit to iTunes. , both 
allow the uploading of video content as well as audio content. One of the 
real draw backs to video blogging, video podcasting, etc. As aposed to just 
audio blogging, podcasting, etc. Is that it takes a great deal of space to 
upload those videos verses an audio file. Both media hosting companies 
listed above have monthly plans. But, you're probably going to need the 
higher plans verses the cheapper plans which they do offer. I'd say that 
you'd probably get much better results just by using Youtube for your 
videos. No, they do not produce an RSS feed which you can submit to iTunes. 
However, this hosting is cheap, infact, it's free. Also, a great number of 
people search youtube for video content since it's a video content site. 
Also, it's the number 2 most used search engine in the world. Just one man's 
opinion, , yes, sometimes I do get paid for it.
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 14:20
Subject: video blogging


hello group; is there a site where i can upload my videos and have them 
shared on iTunes. i found blip and was going to try it but they are updating 
their system and aren't accepting new members right now. like most of you i 
need something cheap and easy to use. thanks for your help, max


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Re: video blogging

2014-04-18 Thread Maxwell Ivey
 thanks for your help. i will probably end up just continuing to use youtube. 
 take care, max 
 
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Re: Oh, Dear, Slacker Problem Again . . .

2014-04-18 Thread Christine Grassman
Thanks, Pam. I could only get voicemail, but hopefully, someone will get back 
to me.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 18, 2014, at 13:19, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Christine,
 I too am a slacker radio subscriber. Their direct phone number is 858-943-5000
 You may get a recording, yet if you play with the menus, you will find a 
 human who will talk to you. If you explain to them you are visually impaired 
 and cannot reliably access their site, they will talk  you through the issue.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Apr 18, 2014, at 9:20 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Despite Slacker's fantastic job making its iPhone app accessible once again, 
 I have run into a snag they clearly did not anticipate.  I received an 
 unusual activity message while listening; I had the audacity to spend some 
 time exploring a bunch of different stations in a short period of time. I was 
 asked for my password, but then, asked to type the text in the image. I 
 tried closing and reopening the app; tried rebooting my phone. Still stuck. 
 I wrote to them, and Tweeted as well; no response so far.  Meanwhile, a 
 subscription for which I paid is unusable, and I cannot seem to figure out 
 where on the web site I can go to attempt a workaround to access my account. 
 I cannot locate any log in or account link.
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Re: Status Menus Are Gone

2014-04-18 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

OK, here you go...

1.  Close all windows and quit all applications.
2.  Up to the Apple menu.
3.  Down to Restart.

As you hear the startup chime, press down the cmd key and the r key 
simultaneously.  You can get yourself ready while the computer is going through 
the motions of shutting down so that your fingers are ready when the startup 
chime sounds.

4.  Hold down those keys for about 3 or 4 seconds after the startup chime ends 
then release.
5.  Wait for at least one minute then try pressing cmd-f5 to see if VO will 
start.  If it doesn't start, then wait a another 30 seconds or so and try 
turning VO on again.
6.  Once it's on, VO-space on the Continue button to choose English as your 
language or change as needed.

On occasion, I've seen it where the Language Chooser doesn't appear, if that's 
the case, then you'll be at the Recovery dialog.

7.  Interact with the Table and choose re-Install.
8.  Stop Interacting with the Table then navigate to the continue button and 
press it with VO-space.
9.  Follow the prompts to complete the installation.

It will likely ask for your Apple ID and confirm that you really want to do 
this.  It will also ask you to agree to all the license terms, you know, giving 
up your first born and such.  After all that, it will download the installer 
from the AppStore and go through the re-installation process.  It should 
restart after a while and you may need to turn VO back on so that you can 
determine its progress.  After everything is done, it hopefully will be back to 
normal.

Good luck.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 18, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can you walk me through the re-install? I haven't had to do that in a 
 *looong* time.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:34 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 That's a good idea Cara.  I've seen that happen in the past when I've forgot 
 to turn cursor tracking back on with VO-shift-f3 after doing whatever.  It 
 did cause these sorts of frustrations that didn't seem logical.  Certainly 
 worth a try.
 
 Later...
  
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 9:38 PM, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote:
 
 Hi Jane,
 
 Out of curiosity, have you checked your cursor tracking settings? It sounds 
 like your VO cursor might be routed to your mouse pointer.
 
 This is just a guess but it might be worth a look before you go the route 
 of a reinstall.
 
 HTH
 
 
 Cara :)
 ---
 iOS design and development - LookTel.com
 ---
 View my Online Portfolio at:
 
 http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn
 
 Follow me on Twitter!
 
 https://twitter.com/ModelCara
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If I do this, am I going to have to somehow re-authorize thiwcomputer? I 
 think I have maybe one authorization left.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 7:26 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 That should be the one.  It's starting to look like you may need to do a 
 re-install.  I wouldn't go the total clean install route yet.  You could 
 try the Re-install option in the Recovery partition.  This would install 
 the newest MacOS onto your system, hopefully fixing any issues that exist. 
  A good backup is preferred prior to attempting this but it is quicker and 
 less problematic than a clean install.  I think it's worth a try for you.
 
 Let me know if you need assistance getting started with this if you choose 
 to go this way.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Are you talking about the BAttery plugin under Menu Extras? It won't let 
 me open that.  Or do I need to look elsewhere in the Core SErvices folder?
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hmmm.  I wouldn't bother doing another repair after this, as some items 
 just don't seem to repair themselves.  How about you try the following:
 
 * Go to your Finder.
 * Open your Macintosh HD
 * Open the System folder.
 * Open the Library folder
 * Open the Core Services folder.
 * Open the Battery item.
 
 Now try accessing your Menu Extras again with VO-m-m and see if the 
 Battery Status menu is available.  If it is, then do the same process to 
 get some of the other extras back onto the Status Menus.  If that 
 doesn't do it, let me know.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I am repairing permissions for the third tie now and I am down to one 
 permission that needs to be repaired. Interestingly, it has nothing to 
 do with Status menus. It has to do with Safari. I still can't access 
 the extra menus, though.
 Jane
 
 
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Don't rush to the reformat, that is a drastic and usually unnecessary 
 task.  Try to do a repair permissions first.  To 

Re: Status Menus Are Gone

2014-04-18 Thread Jessica
Do you loose any information? Is it necessary to backup tule data before hand? 
I am just curious.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 18, 2014, at 3:28 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 OK, here you go…
 
 1.  Close all windows and quit all applications.
 2.  Up to the Apple menu.
 3.  Down to Restart.
 
 As you hear the startup chime, press down the cmd key and the “r” key 
 simultaneously.  You can get yourself ready while the computer is going 
 through the motions of shutting down so that your fingers are ready when the 
 startup chime sounds.
 
 4.  Hold down those keys for about 3 or 4 seconds after the startup chime 
 ends then release.
 5.  Wait for at least one minute then try pressing cmd-f5 to see if VO will 
 start.  If it doesn’t start, then wait a another 30 seconds or so and try 
 turning VO on again.
 6.  Once it’s on, VO-space on the Continue button to choose English as your 
 language or change as needed.
 
 On occasion, I’ve seen it where the Language Chooser doesn’t appear, if 
 that’s the case, then you’ll be at the Recovery dialog.
 
 7.  Interact with the Table and choose re-Install.
 8.  Stop Interacting with the Table then navigate to the continue button and 
 press it with VO-space.
 9.  Follow the prompts to complete the installation.
 
 It will likely ask for your Apple ID and confirm that you really want to do 
 this.  It will also ask you to agree to all the license terms, you know, 
 giving up your first born and such.  After all that, it will download the 
 installer from the AppStore and go through the re-installation process.  It 
 should restart after a while and you may need to turn VO back on so that you 
 can determine its progress.  After everything is done, it hopefully will be 
 back to normal.
 
 Good luck.
 
 Later…
 
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 18, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Can you walk me through the re-install? I haven't had to do that in a 
 *looong* time.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:34 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 That’s a good idea Cara.  I’ve seen that happen in the past when I’ve 
 forgot to turn cursor tracking back on with VO-shift-f3 after doing 
 whatever.  It did cause these sorts of frustrations that didn’t seem 
 logical.  Certainly worth a try.
 
 Later…
  
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 9:38 PM, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote:
 
 Hi Jane,
 
 Out of curiosity, have you checked your cursor tracking settings? It 
 sounds like your VO cursor might be routed to your mouse pointer.
 
 This is just a guess but it might be worth a look before you go the route 
 of a reinstall.
 
 HTH
 
 
 Cara :)
 ---
 iOS design and development - LookTel.com
 ---
 View my Online Portfolio at:
 
 http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn
 
 Follow me on Twitter!
 
 https://twitter.com/ModelCara
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If I do this, am I going to have to somehow re-authorize thiwcomputer? I 
 think I have maybe one authorization left.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 7:26 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 That should be the one.  It’s starting to look like you may need to do a 
 re-install.  I wouldn’t go the total clean install route yet.  You could 
 try the “Re-install” option in the Recovery partition.  This would 
 install the newest MacOS onto your system, hopefully fixing any issues 
 that exist.  A good backup is preferred prior to attempting this but it 
 is quicker and less problematic than a clean install.  I think it’s worth 
 a try for you.
 
 Let me know if you need assistance getting started with this if you 
 choose to go this way.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Are you talking about the BAttery plugin under Menu Extras? It won't let 
 me open that.  Or do I need to look elsewhere in the Core SErvices 
 folder?
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hmmm.  I wouldn’t bother doing another repair after this, as some items 
 just don’t seem to repair themselves.  How about you try the following:
 
 • Go to your Finder.
 • Open your Macintosh HD
 • Open the System folder.
 • Open the Library folder
 • Open the Core Services folder.
 • Open the Battery item.
 
 Now try accessing your Menu Extras again with VO-m-m and see if the 
 Battery Status menu is available.  If it is, then do the same process 
 to get some of the other extras back onto the Status Menus.  If that 
 doesn’t do it, let me know.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I am repairing permissions for the third tie now and I am down to one 
 permission that needs to be repaired. Interestingly, it has nothing to 
 do with Status menus. It has to do with Safari. I still can't access 
 

Re: Renaming and some other questions

2014-04-18 Thread Rich Ring
You probably have figured this out by now, but the move command works like 
this. Highlight the file or folder you need to move, then go to the place you 
want to move it to and press command option v.

You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
 Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
richr...@gmail.com

On Apr 18, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote:

 I cannot make the voiceover move command work. Can somebody please remind 
 me what it is. How do I use it and when?
 Jessica
 jldai...@gmail.com
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Ramy Moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 don't know sir Alex how can I thank you.
 your explanation is excellent. thanks so much.
 is  there a way to know the time while working in pro tools?
 
 On 4/17/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 It depends on the view you are using. I recommend you read my Finder guide,
 which explains all about selecting multiple items:
 http://www.applevis.com/guides/mac-os-x/getting-started-os-x-finder
 On Apr 16, 2014, at 8:54 PM, Ramy Moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 sir Alex:
 thanks for your response.
 concerning windows, I was using 2 windows in finder, I didn't try to
 use command n, I will try that.
 concerning the escape key, in all menus, even the vo+m to go to the
 apple menu, escape can not close the window.
 
 what do you mean by interacting with my list of files? I hit cmd}\}2
 and after I go to any folder, I find the table, I interact with it, is
 it what you mean?
 
 
 On 4/16/14, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 Hi,
 
 In addition to Alex's responses:
 
 3.  If these windows are in different applications, then cmd-` will not
 work.  The cmd-` only works within windows of the same application.  You
 can
 use cmd-tab to cycle between applications.
 
 4.  I've never seen this either.  What kind of menu were you in?
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 16, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 To rename, press enter. To select, interact with your list of files and
 press vo-cmd-enter on each one to select it (note that you must press
 this
 twice on the first item you select). If you are not using Mavericks or
 above, use vo-cmd-space instead of vo-cmd-enter.
 
 Escape closes menus, and I've never heard of it not doing so. Are you
 possibly not focused where you think you are?
 As to windows, are you sure you opened multiple windows? you may have
 Finder set to not open folders in new windows, or you did not use cmd-n
 when you opened your second folder.
 On Apr 16, 2014, at 1:26 PM, ramy moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi all:
 
 With more and more using of my mac, I can discover somethings very
 interesting for me.
 But I got some questions if I can ask:
 1-I need to rename a folder, I hit the vo+shift +m but can not find
 the
 rename.
 2-If I have a folder with many songs, I need to select only some
 songs,
 how can I select some? I tried shift space, ctrl shift space, but no
 luck.
 3-I know that command accent can cycle between open Windows, I have 2
 open windows that I need to copy and past files from and to. Using
 command accent do nothing. Why?
 4-When I'm in a menu, using the scape key didn't close this menu. I
 must
 hit option scape, and I discovered this by chance. So what is the
 right
 issue.
 
 Thanks so much for your help
 
 
 Ramy moustafa saber
 Musicc instructor at:
 faculty of musical education
 music arranger and sound engineer
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Re: Removing drm protection from Adobe Digital Edition pdf files purchased legally

2014-04-18 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Dear Annie,

Thank you very much. I shall look to see what I can find.

Best wishes

Andrew
On 17 Apr 2014, at 23:14, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Andrew.
 
 As I remember you are a macuser.
 
 There are some good tools for things like that on this site:
 www.epubsoft.com
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den 17/04/2014 kl. 22.12 skrev Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com:
 
 Hi Listers,
 
 I need to remove drm protection from an adobe digital pdf book which I have 
 purchased. This is obviously for my own use. Is there a Voiceover friendly 
 program that would do it?
 
 Thanks for any tips.
 
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Re: Status Menus Are Gone

2014-04-18 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

It's always recommended to backup your data before doing this but, to be 
honest, I've done it many, many times without backing up and have never had any 
problems.  Now that I've said that, I'll probably have an issue next time.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:36 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do you loose any information? Is it necessary to backup tule data before 
 hand? I am just curious.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 18, 2014, at 3:28 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 OK, here you go...
 
 1.  Close all windows and quit all applications.
 2.  Up to the Apple menu.
 3.  Down to Restart.
 
 As you hear the startup chime, press down the cmd key and the r key 
 simultaneously.  You can get yourself ready while the computer is going 
 through the motions of shutting down so that your fingers are ready when the 
 startup chime sounds.
 
 4.  Hold down those keys for about 3 or 4 seconds after the startup chime 
 ends then release.
 5.  Wait for at least one minute then try pressing cmd-f5 to see if VO will 
 start.  If it doesn't start, then wait a another 30 seconds or so and try 
 turning VO on again.
 6.  Once it's on, VO-space on the Continue button to choose English as your 
 language or change as needed.
 
 On occasion, I've seen it where the Language Chooser doesn't appear, if 
 that's the case, then you'll be at the Recovery dialog.
 
 7.  Interact with the Table and choose re-Install.
 8.  Stop Interacting with the Table then navigate to the continue button and 
 press it with VO-space.
 9.  Follow the prompts to complete the installation.
 
 It will likely ask for your Apple ID and confirm that you really want to do 
 this.  It will also ask you to agree to all the license terms, you know, 
 giving up your first born and such.  After all that, it will download the 
 installer from the AppStore and go through the re-installation process.  It 
 should restart after a while and you may need to turn VO back on so that you 
 can determine its progress.  After everything is done, it hopefully will be 
 back to normal.
 
 Good luck.
 
 Later...
 
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 18, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Can you walk me through the re-install? I haven't had to do that in a 
 *looong* time.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:34 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 That's a good idea Cara.  I've seen that happen in the past when I've 
 forgot to turn cursor tracking back on with VO-shift-f3 after doing 
 whatever.  It did cause these sorts of frustrations that didn't seem 
 logical.  Certainly worth a try.
 
 Later...
  
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 9:38 PM, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote:
 
 Hi Jane,
 
 Out of curiosity, have you checked your cursor tracking settings? It 
 sounds like your VO cursor might be routed to your mouse pointer.
 
 This is just a guess but it might be worth a look before you go the route 
 of a reinstall.
 
 HTH
 
 
 Cara :)
 ---
 iOS design and development - LookTel.com
 ---
 View my Online Portfolio at:
 
 http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn
 
 Follow me on Twitter!
 
 https://twitter.com/ModelCara
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If I do this, am I going to have to somehow re-authorize thiwcomputer? I 
 think I have maybe one authorization left.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 7:26 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 That should be the one.  It's starting to look like you may need to do a 
 re-install.  I wouldn't go the total clean install route yet.  You could 
 try the Re-install option in the Recovery partition.  This would 
 install the newest MacOS onto your system, hopefully fixing any issues 
 that exist.  A good backup is preferred prior to attempting this but it 
 is quicker and less problematic than a clean install.  I think it's 
 worth a try for you.
 
 Let me know if you need assistance getting started with this if you 
 choose to go this way.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Are you talking about the BAttery plugin under Menu Extras? It won't 
 let me open that.  Or do I need to look elsewhere in the Core SErvices 
 folder?
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hmmm.  I wouldn't bother doing another repair after this, as some 
 items just don't seem to repair themselves.  How about you try the 
 following:
 
 * Go to your Finder.
 * Open your Macintosh HD
 * Open the System folder.
 * Open the Library folder
 * Open the Core Services folder.
 * Open the Battery item.
 
 Now try accessing your Menu Extras again with VO-m-m and see if the 
 Battery Status menu is available.  If it is, then do the same process 
 to get some of the other extras back onto the Status Menus.  If that 
 doesn't 

Re: Status Menus Are Gone

2014-04-18 Thread Jane
How much space do I need to have free on here? I have43.66GB free.

Jane

 


On Apr 18, 2014, at 3:28 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 OK, here you go...
 
 1.  Close all windows and quit all applications.
 2.  Up to the Apple menu.
 3.  Down to Restart.
 
 As you hear the startup chime, press down the cmd key and the r key 
 simultaneously.  You can get yourself ready while the computer is going 
 through the motions of shutting down so that your fingers are ready when the 
 startup chime sounds.
 
 4.  Hold down those keys for about 3 or 4 seconds after the startup chime 
 ends then release.
 5.  Wait for at least one minute then try pressing cmd-f5 to see if VO will 
 start.  If it doesn't start, then wait a another 30 seconds or so and try 
 turning VO on again.
 6.  Once it's on, VO-space on the Continue button to choose English as your 
 language or change as needed.
 
 On occasion, I've seen it where the Language Chooser doesn't appear, if 
 that's the case, then you'll be at the Recovery dialog.
 
 7.  Interact with the Table and choose re-Install.
 8.  Stop Interacting with the Table then navigate to the continue button and 
 press it with VO-space.
 9.  Follow the prompts to complete the installation.
 
 It will likely ask for your Apple ID and confirm that you really want to do 
 this.  It will also ask you to agree to all the license terms, you know, 
 giving up your first born and such.  After all that, it will download the 
 installer from the AppStore and go through the re-installation process.  It 
 should restart after a while and you may need to turn VO back on so that you 
 can determine its progress.  After everything is done, it hopefully will be 
 back to normal.
 
 Good luck.
 
 Later...
 
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 18, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Can you walk me through the re-install? I haven't had to do that in a 
 *looong* time.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:34 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 That's a good idea Cara.  I've seen that happen in the past when I've 
 forgot to turn cursor tracking back on with VO-shift-f3 after doing 
 whatever.  It did cause these sorts of frustrations that didn't seem 
 logical.  Certainly worth a try.
 
 Later...
  
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 9:38 PM, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote:
 
 Hi Jane,
 
 Out of curiosity, have you checked your cursor tracking settings? It 
 sounds like your VO cursor might be routed to your mouse pointer.
 
 This is just a guess but it might be worth a look before you go the route 
 of a reinstall.
 
 HTH
 
 
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 On Apr 17, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If I do this, am I going to have to somehow re-authorize thiwcomputer? I 
 think I have maybe one authorization left.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 7:26 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 That should be the one.  It's starting to look like you may need to do a 
 re-install.  I wouldn't go the total clean install route yet.  You could 
 try the Re-install option in the Recovery partition.  This would 
 install the newest MacOS onto your system, hopefully fixing any issues 
 that exist.  A good backup is preferred prior to attempting this but it 
 is quicker and less problematic than a clean install.  I think it's worth 
 a try for you.
 
 Let me know if you need assistance getting started with this if you 
 choose to go this way.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Are you talking about the BAttery plugin under Menu Extras? It won't let 
 me open that.  Or do I need to look elsewhere in the Core SErvices 
 folder?
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hmmm.  I wouldn't bother doing another repair after this, as some items 
 just don't seem to repair themselves.  How about you try the following:
 
 * Go to your Finder.
 * Open your Macintosh HD
 * Open the System folder.
 * Open the Library folder
 * Open the Core Services folder.
 * Open the Battery item.
 
 Now try accessing your Menu Extras again with VO-m-m and see if the 
 Battery Status menu is available.  If it is, then do the same process 
 to get some of the other extras back onto the Status Menus.  If that 
 doesn't do it, let me know.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I am repairing permissions for the third tie now and I am down to one 
 permission that needs to be repaired. Interestingly, it has nothing to 
 do with Status menus. It has to do with Safari. I still can't access 
 the extra menus, though.
 Jane
 
 
 
 On 

Re: Oh, Dear, Slacker Problem Again . . .

2014-04-18 Thread Pamela Francis
Hopefully, they will get back to you. I do have a question however, are you 
having issues accessing the direct link on your page to your account 
specifically? Maybe I can search the site and find the direct link and send it 
to you off list.

Pam Francis

On Apr 18, 2014, at 2:20 PM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks, Pam. I could only get voicemail, but hopefully, someone will get back 
to me.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 18, 2014, at 13:19, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Christine,
 I too am a slacker radio subscriber. Their direct phone number is 858-943-5000
 You may get a recording, yet if you play with the menus, you will find a 
 human who will talk to you. If you explain to them you are visually impaired 
 and cannot reliably access their site, they will talk  you through the issue.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Apr 18, 2014, at 9:20 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Despite Slacker's fantastic job making its iPhone app accessible once again, 
 I have run into a snag they clearly did not anticipate.  I received an 
 unusual activity message while listening; I had the audacity to spend some 
 time exploring a bunch of different stations in a short period of time. I was 
 asked for my password, but then, asked to type the text in the image. I 
 tried closing and reopening the app; tried rebooting my phone. Still stuck. 
 I wrote to them, and Tweeted as well; no response so far.  Meanwhile, a 
 subscription for which I paid is unusable, and I cannot seem to figure out 
 where on the web site I can go to attempt a workaround to access my account. 
 I cannot locate any log in or account link.
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Re: Oh, Dear, Slacker Problem Again . . .

2014-04-18 Thread Christine Grassman
Whether I try to log into my account on my iPhone or my MacBook, it is giving 
me an image capture, with no audio alternative. I cannot access my account at 
all with sighted assistance.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 18, 2014, at 16:48, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hopefully, they will get back to you. I do have a question however, are you 
 having issues accessing the direct link on your page to your account 
 specifically? Maybe I can search the site and find the direct link and send 
 it to you off list.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Apr 18, 2014, at 2:20 PM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Thanks, Pam. I could only get voicemail, but hopefully, someone will get back 
 to me.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 18, 2014, at 13:19, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Christine,
 I too am a slacker radio subscriber. Their direct phone number is 
 858-943-5000
 You may get a recording, yet if you play with the menus, you will find a 
 human who will talk to you. If you explain to them you are visually impaired 
 and cannot reliably access their site, they will talk  you through the issue.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Apr 18, 2014, at 9:20 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Despite Slacker's fantastic job making its iPhone app accessible once again, 
 I have run into a snag they clearly did not anticipate.  I received an 
 unusual activity message while listening; I had the audacity to spend some 
 time exploring a bunch of different stations in a short period of time. I 
 was asked for my password, but then, asked to type the text in the image. 
 I tried closing and reopening the app; tried rebooting my phone. Still 
 stuck. 
 I wrote to them, and Tweeted as well; no response so far.  Meanwhile, a 
 subscription for which I paid is unusable, and I cannot seem to figure out 
 where on the web site I can go to attempt a workaround to access my account. 
 I cannot locate any log in or account link.
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Shortcut to Login?

2014-04-18 Thread Robert C
   Is there a shortcut to login on the Mac?Its not runnuign at tyhe 
momenbt so let me explain. When I first turn the Mac on, its in a window 
and I have to move past 3 or 4 items (I dont recall what those items are 
at the moment) before I get to my login account and sign in. If that was 
clear, then I want to know if I can change a setting somewhere so I land 
directly on that sign in. Thanks.


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When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to 
resemble a nail.

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Combining 2 tracks

2014-04-18 Thread Traci Duncan
Hello all,

I open to using either audacity or garage band.  The problem is, I can't figure 
out this task with either one.

Let's say you have song A and song B.  You have edited both of these songs to 
just how you want them, but now you want them to play back to back, as if they 
have become song C.  I don't want them to play over each other, rather right 
after another, as one track.

In both programs, the songs play atop each other.

Suggestions?  Assistance please.  :)

Thanks,
Traci

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Re: Shortcut to Login?

2014-04-18 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi!
Ok open users and groups in system pref's and in the table of choices pick log 
in items!
One of the options is to use name and password as log in screen!
HTH Colin

On 18 Apr 2014, at 23:14, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote:

   Is there a shortcut to login on the Mac?Its not runnuign at tyhe momenbt so 
 let me explain. When I first turn the Mac on, its in a window and I have to 
 move past 3 or 4 items (I dont recall what those items are at the moment) 
 before I get to my login account and sign in. If that was clear, then I want 
 to know if I can change a setting somewhere so I land directly on that sign 
 in. Thanks.
 
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 When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to resemble a 
 nail.
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Re: Shortcut to Login?

2014-04-18 Thread Robert C
   Hmmm. I tried that option before and it requires typing in two 
things not just my password so I went back to the other option. I am the 
only user on this Mac.


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On 4/18/2014 3:31 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:

Hi!
Ok open users and groups in system pref's and in the table of choices pick log 
in items!
One of the options is to use name and password as log in screen!
HTH Colin

On 18 Apr 2014, at 23:14, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote:


   Is there a shortcut to login on the Mac?Its not runnuign at tyhe momenbt so 
let me explain. When I first turn the Mac on, its in a window and I have to 
move past 3 or 4 items (I dont recall what those items are at the moment) 
before I get to my login account and sign in. If that was clear, then I want to 
know if I can change a setting somewhere so I land directly on that sign in. 
Thanks.

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nail.
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E-mail-
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Re: what is growl?

2014-04-18 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
I still use Growl even though I'm using Mavericks because I turn off Voiceover 
in apps where I don't need it such as VMWare Fusion and the RSGames client. If 
notification center itself had an option to use the system voice to speak 
notifications, I would get rid of Growl.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

On Apr 18, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Growl is a notifications system that most of us used before Os X 10.8 
 Mountain Lion introduced the notification centre. It provides notifications 
 for supported apps in the form of audio/visual notifications, the audio 
 portion using the system voice to speak the notification.
 
 Regards Chris
 
 Happy Easter!
 
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 Hello All and happy Friday:
 I have read references to growl on this list before but have never 
 understood what it is.  Could someone give an explanation especially its 
 relation to voiceover?
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chromevox on the mac

2014-04-18 Thread Chris Moore
Hello,
I'm looking for feedback on chromevox.  Are there advantages over safari?

TIA
Chris

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Selecting non-contiguous items

2014-04-18 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi,
Can somebody please explain how to do this? I'm not having any luck using vo 
enter.
In finder, in list view, I'm interacting with the table of documents. I press 
vo enter twice on the first item. I move down to the next item but one (with or 
 without  vo keys held down), and press vo enter again. I hear no row 
selected. Command c to copy to the clipboard does nothing.
I'm sure I'm doing something obvious wrong but can't figure it out. Thanks for 
any help.
Does it not work in list view? Should I interact or not? Should I arrow down 
with or without vo keys?
Lisette

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Re: Selecting non-contiguous items

2014-04-18 Thread alia robinson
do v/o and command and enter. that will work.
On Apr 18, 2014, at 8:08 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi,
 Can somebody please explain how to do this? I'm not having any luck using vo 
 enter.
 In finder, in list view, I'm interacting with the table of documents. I press 
 vo enter twice on the first item. I move down to the next item but one (with 
 or  without  vo keys held down), and press vo enter again. I hear no row 
 selected. Command c to copy to the clipboard does nothing.
 I'm sure I'm doing something obvious wrong but can't figure it out. Thanks 
 for any help.
 Does it not work in list view? Should I interact or not? Should I arrow down 
 with or without vo keys?
 Lisette
 
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Re: Selecting non-contiguous items

2014-04-18 Thread Kevin Shaw
Hi Lisette,

Do the following:

*   Navigate to the desired table or lsit view.
*   Interact
*   Down arrow to the first item you want. 
*   VO down to the next item. While holding down VO keys, press command 
spacebar. YOu'll hear VO report you have 2 items selected.
*   Repeat until you have all items you want.
*   ¬Copy with command C when finished.

To speed up the process, I lock VO keys on once I have the first item and use 
command-space to mark the items I want.

Hope this helps.

Kevin

On 2014-04-18, at 8:08 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 Can somebody please explain how to do this? I'm not having any luck using vo 
 enter.
 In finder, in list view, I'm interacting with the table of documents. I press 
 vo enter twice on the first item. I move down to the next item but one (with 
 or  without  vo keys held down), and press vo enter again. I hear no row 
 selected. Command c to copy to the clipboard does nothing.
 I'm sure I'm doing something obvious wrong but can't figure it out. Thanks 
 for any help.
 Does it not work in list view? Should I interact or not? Should I arrow down 
 with or without vo keys?
 Lisette
 
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Re: Selecting non-contiguous items

2014-04-18 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Many thanks. I didn't realise you needed to add the command key to the enter 
and lift it when arrowing down.Oh Kevin, in Mavericks it's command enter, not 
command space I believe. But it works now. Thanks to this awesome list.

Lisette

On 19/04/2014, at 12:12 pm, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote:

 do v/o and command and enter. that will work.
 On Apr 18, 2014, at 8:08 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Can somebody please explain how to do this? I'm not having any luck using vo 
 enter.
 In finder, in list view, I'm interacting with the table of documents. I 
 press vo enter twice on the first item. I move down to the next item but one 
 (with or  without  vo keys held down), and press vo enter again. I hear no 
 row selected. Command c to copy to the clipboard does nothing.
 I'm sure I'm doing something obvious wrong but can't figure it out. Thanks 
 for any help.
 Does it not work in list view? Should I interact or not? Should I arrow down 
 with or without vo keys?
 Lisette
 
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iTunes inquiry

2014-04-18 Thread Kerri
Hello, all. 

I have never been very adept at iTunes, sad to cofess. I have an album plus a 
song that I purchased on the aforemented store. Whenever a song finishes, one 
of these songs immediately begins to play. How do I cease this? Thanks and have 
a great day.

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Re: iTunes inquiry

2014-04-18 Thread David Chittenden
From what I understand, iTunes is designed to continue playback until stopped. 
I have not found any button for playing only the current selection then 
stopping playback.

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 On 19 Apr 2014, at 15:09, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote:
 
 Hello, all. 
 
 I have never been very adept at iTunes, sad to cofess. I have an album plus a 
 song that I purchased on the aforemented store. Whenever a song finishes, one 
 of these songs immediately begins to play. How do I cease this? Thanks and 
 have a great day.
 
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Re: iTunes inquiry

2014-04-18 Thread Gary
When you're on the list of songs, press enter to start playing the song you're 
currently on. Press spacebar to stop playing a song.  That's how I do it, but I 
also have my songs as a list.
Gary
On Apr 18, 2014, at 10:09 PM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote:

 Hello, all. 
 
 I have never been very adept at iTunes, sad to cofess. I have an album plus a 
 song that I purchased on the aforemented store. Whenever a song finishes, one 
 of these songs immediately begins to play. How do I cease this? Thanks and 
 have a great day.
 
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Re: iTunes inquiry

2014-04-18 Thread Kerri
thanks but these things start playing as soon as any song quits.

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On Apr 18, 2014, at 8:34 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote:

 When you're on the list of songs, press enter to start playing the song 
 you're currently on. Press spacebar to stop playing a song.  That's how I do 
 it, but I also have my songs as a list.
 Gary
 On Apr 18, 2014, at 10:09 PM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote:
 
 Hello, all. 
 
 I have never been very adept at iTunes, sad to cofess. I have an album plus 
 a song that I purchased on the aforemented store. Whenever a song finishes, 
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Totally Off-Topic Quesiton

2014-04-18 Thread Helena Fehr
Hi, all!
I know this has nothing to do with the Mac at all, but I'm kind of desperate 
because I've got a problem with my PacMate Omni (I think it's a 6 or 6.1). When 
my braille display is connected to the PacMate, it just says pm display 40 but 
does not allow me to read in braille what's supposed to be on my screens, and 
eventually, it just falls asleep. (speaking of falling asleep, I'm wondering if 
anyone knows if there's a way to make the braille display not fall asleep.) It 
worked just fine until the day before yesterday when I disconnected the braille 
display while the PacMate was still on. Other than that  the PacMate itself 
works fine, and I know the braille display works because for one thing when I 
turn the PacMate off, the dots all disappear as usual, and then when I turn it 
on the pm display 40 message comes back on, and for another, if I hook the 
braille display to my Mac, it works fine; anyhow, I actually have two braille 
displays, and they both do the same thing on the PacMate but both work on the 
Mac.
I've tried a warm reset and a hard-reset, but it doesn't change. Oh, forgot to 
say it's one of the PacMates with a computer keyboard.
Anyhow, I know this is totally off-topic, but Ive already asked a bunch of 
people and nobody can suggest anything helpful. I've read all the help 
information I can find, but can't find anything helpful there either. I'm going 
to Ontario on tour with my choir group the week after next, and I just put a 
downloadable Bible on my PacMate so I could take it along to read my Bible in 
braille rather than having to bring the braille books, but now the braille 
display doesn't work, and I'd like to get it fixed before we leave so I can 
still use it instead of having to bring a braille Bible along.
Anyhow, if someone knows what to suggest or to do about this, I'd really 
appreciate it. You can email me off-topic if you want, or just send a reply to 
my message.
My email is helena.torch.li...@gmail.com.
Thanks a lot!



God Bless!!!
Helena

May the Lord bless you and protect you; may the Lord's face radiate with joy 
because of you; may He be gracious to you, show you His favour, and give you 
His peace (Numbers 6:24-26).
In Jesus' Name. Amen.

Helena Fehr
helena.torch.li...@gmail.com



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Re: Commenting and replying to comments on YouTube

2014-04-18 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
i figure it out, hehehehe turn quick nav off the just like the shortcut command 
for twitter, j for next post, k for the succeeding post, the l to like the 
status, then c for comment but after you comment you have to turn on your quick 
nav to push the comment botton, cheeers
On 18 Apr 2014, at 03:29 pm, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can't get it to work either.
 On Apr 18, 2014, at 8:12 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Folks, this is driving me batty. If I interact with the comment on this 
 frame, I get a bunch of stuff, like numbers, the word stream, and then I 
 have to play around reading the comments. I can usually manage to enter a 
 new comment under share your thoughts. However, in an attempt to reply, I 
 cannot get it to work. I've tried linking to the Comments from email, 
 clicking on reply, clicking where it says button; I've tried hitting Return, 
 as well as VO space. Can anyone help with this?
 Christine
 
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Re: two applications upgraded

2014-04-18 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
sorry for the itune, i left my ipod attach on my mac, :)
On 18 Apr 2014, at 05:09 pm, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 No, I don't believe that you have a virus.  If you accidentally left iTunes 
 open when you shutdown your computer, it will likely come back on when you 
 start it up.  Remember that, on a Mac, closing the window does not quit the 
 application.  You must use Quit from the app menu or cmd-q to actually 
 totally quit and remove the app from memory.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 18, 2014, at 3:00 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 good morning tim, ok i laready check the download newly upgrades in 
 background. i dont want to turn off my notification because i use it a lot. 
 the, then today my itunes is opening on the background even if i don't put 
 it on my logging items. do you thing my computer was vireus? i dont think 
 so, or maybe just a script, thanks in advance 
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 Hi,
 
 It appears to be an automatic thing when you have the Download in the 
 Background checkbox checked in the AppStore pane of System Preferences.  I 
 believe that if you uncheck this box, those messages won't always come up.  
 Other than that, you could turn on Do Not Disturb in the Notification 
 Centre and those alerts wouldn't happen.  Then again, no alerts would which 
 maybe is what you are hoping for.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
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 dionip...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 why does eveytime i open up my computer i hear this voice.
 actualy i do have imovie update and xcode update, but i dont want to hear 
 it everytime i open my mac
 
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