Re: Installing windows on my mac using bootcamp

[Christopher Hallsworth]

I have created a guide over at
www.applevis.com

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 19/08/2014 00:21, Joseph wrote:

Hello list,
Is there any I as a totally blind person can install windows on my mac with 
bootcamp?
Is there anything in particular I should know before getting started?
Thanks.



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Re: card reader issues

[Christopher Hallsworth]

just a thought but have you checked that the card isn't right protected?

Christopher Hallsworth
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On 19/08/2014 04:10, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

I suspect that something's gone wrong with the card reader on my Mac book pro.  
It seems that, no matter what I do, every time I insert a 32GB card in to the 
reader, it shows up as a browser image despite the fact that I have finder 
preferences set to open all drives in list view.  When I connect my Edirol 
recorder to my Mac using the USB cable, then open that as a drive, it shows up 
as a list view table.  When I insert the card directly in to my Mac, and it 
shows up as a browser image view when I open the card, I can only read from but 
not write to nor delete from it.  While in list view using the USB plug, I can 
both read and write.  Anybody got any ideas what's going on?  I think the 
reader's going bad and, if that means a new logic board, it means a new machine 
for me.

Thanks.
Sincerely,
the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
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card reader issues

[Ray Foret Jr]

I suspect that something's gone wrong with the card reader on my Mac book pro.  
It seems that, no matter what I do, every time I insert a 32GB card in to the 
reader, it shows up as a browser image despite the fact that I have finder 
preferences set to open all drives in list view.  When I connect my Edirol 
recorder to my Mac using the USB cable, then open that as a drive, it shows up 
as a list view table.  When I insert the card directly in to my Mac, and it 
shows up as a browser image view when I open the card, I can only read from but 
not write to nor delete from it.  While in list view using the USB plug, I can 
both read and write.  Anybody got any ideas what's going on?  I think the 
reader's going bad and, if that means a new logic board, it means a new machine 
for me.

Thanks.
Sincerely,
the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

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Re: a possibliy new alternative for an accessible twitter client

[Devin Prater]

I don't see a link. It is still twblue.mx or something?
On Aug 18, 2014, at 6:06 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:

> is there a binary file out yet? I don't want to have to build from source and 
> all that.
> 
> On 8/18/2014 4:22 PM, Jonathan Candler wrote:
>> I am testing TW blue right now and  it seems to be quite good! still
>> bugs, as expected, but, I do like it a lot!
>> 
>> On 8/18/14, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
 Hello list,
 
 TWBlue, which was an accessible twitter client on the Windows platform has
 just released what is basically an alpha version of their client on the
 Mac.  For those who want to help them get their client up to speed, by
 testing it, and reporting bugs, you can read about it and download it
 here.
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55398785/software/readme.html
 
 hth
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Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

[Alex Hall]

A appreciate the help. Between one thing and another, I never had time to try 
this, knowing what could go wrong and how long it would take to recover from 
any mistake. Now I find myself low on disk space, so I don't think I can 
install Yosemite on this machine. Can anyone tell me how, or even if,I can 
recover the gigabytes I somehow managed to deallocate from my startup disk's 
partition? I have, I think, nine gigs floating around that I could reassign. 
Thanks.
On Jul 27, 2014, at 11:40 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:

> The command you now need is:
> sudo diskutil resizeVolume disk0s2 45G JHFS+ Testing 0
> 
> The only time I consider Disk Utility to be reliable with VoiceOver is when 
> partitioning from scratch; then it's usually more convenient to use DU 
> instead of the CLI.  But ultimately you can do more with the diskutil tool 
> than with DU itself, in particular manipulating CoreStorage groups, so you 
> might as well learn how IMO.
> 
> Cheers,
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around me gps app won't let me save POI's.

[Jessica Moss]

I love the around me app and the fact that it lets you navigate the route using 
whatever gps apps are on your phone, but I don't understand why whatever gps 
app I'm using (scout maps being one of them,) won't let me save a route I've 
created, which is one I'll be using on a regular basis.  Is that just an issue 
with my gps app, or is that an issue with the around me app"

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Re: Adding signatures in mail

[Matt Dierckens]

Hi.
This might be what you're looking for. checked Place signature above quoted text
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On Aug 18, 2014, at 19:41, Angus MacKinnon  wrote:

> I understand how to do all of this. The one thing that escapes me is how to 
> not have a Signature for Forwarded Email. So, no Signature after doing 
> Command - Shift - F for a forward.
> 
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Re: Adding signatures in mail

[Angus MacKinnon]

I understand how to do all of this. The one thing that escapes me is how to not 
have a Signature for Forwarded Email. So, no Signature after doing Command - 
Shift - F for a forward.

Angus MacKinnon

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Re: a possibliy new alternative for an accessible twitter client

[Ricardo Walker]

Yes.

Check out the link.  They have an .app file available for download.

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> On Aug 18, 2014, at 7:06 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> is there a binary file out yet? I don't want to have to build from source and 
> all that.
> 
> On 8/18/2014 4:22 PM, Jonathan Candler wrote:
>> I am testing TW blue right now and  it seems to be quite good! still
>> bugs, as expected, but, I do like it a lot!
>> 
>> On 8/18/14, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
 Hello list,
 
 TWBlue, which was an accessible twitter client on the Windows platform has
 just released what is basically an alpha version of their client on the
 Mac.  For those who want to help them get their client up to speed, by
 testing it, and reporting bugs, you can read about it and download it
 here.
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55398785/software/readme.html
 
 hth
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Installing windows on my mac using bootcamp

[Joseph]

Hello list,
Is there any I as a totally blind person can install windows on my mac with 
bootcamp?
Is there anything in particular I should know before getting started?
Thanks.

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Re: Adding signatures in mail

[Matt Dierckens]

Hello.
Go to mail preferences with command Comma.
You will be automatically interacted with the toolbar.
We want to go to the "Signitures" tab. VO space on this.
Next you will be placed in a table. You can hit the "add" button to add a 
signature. Hope this helped.
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On Aug 18, 2014, at 19:17, denise avant  wrote:

> Hello all,
> I am using Mavericks. I was searching for the place to add signatures to my 
> e-mail. Can anyone tell me where I should look? thanks.
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Adding signatures in mail

[denise avant]

Hello all,
I am using Mavericks. I was searching for the place to add signatures to my 
e-mail. Can anyone tell me where I should look? thanks.

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can't figure out how to open NFB Newsline email attachments

[Christina C.]

Hello,

I don't understand how to open the email attachments from NFB newsline. I just 
got the email for Family Fun magazine and it has multiple attachments. I can't 
figure out how to open them, which one to open, nor with what. I thought I was 
just supposed to open the xml file in Safari but it is not an option when I 
pull up the context menu. I am really baffled here and I have been for a few 
weeks now. :)

Thanks,
Christina

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Re: a possibliy new alternative for an accessible twitter client

[Devin Prater]

is there a binary file out yet? I don't want to have to build from 
source and all that.


On 8/18/2014 4:22 PM, Jonathan Candler wrote:

I am testing TW blue right now and  it seems to be quite good! still
bugs, as expected, but, I do like it a lot!

On 8/18/14, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

Hello list,

TWBlue, which was an accessible twitter client on the Windows platform has
just released what is basically an alpha version of their client on the
Mac.  For those who want to help them get their client up to speed, by
testing it, and reporting bugs, you can read about it and download it
here.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55398785/software/readme.html

hth


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Re: Need help! Very frustrated with mail on the Mac!

[matthew dyer]

Hi there,

So far yes it seems to be fine for the most part.  I have to agree that imap is 
very slow, but I can live with that for now.  I guess we will see.

Matthew


On Aug 18, 2014, at 4:47 AM, Kevin Cussick 
 wrote:

> Hi,   and does it now work? thanks for any help you maybe able to give.
> 
> On 17/08/2014 21:34, Jose Lomeli wrote:
>> Well I called Apple and I had to do a clean install!
>> 
>> Jose Lomeli
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Kevin Cussick 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> thanks,   I have not tried this will try another day I have loads to do but 
>>> good suggestion thanks.
>>> 
 On 17/08/2014 20:39, David Griffith wrote:
 This was a well  known issue with the early releases of Mavericks but I
 believed that this had been fixed by Apple in a subsequent update to the
 OS. Certainly I am having absolutely no issues with G mail in my latest
 version of Mavericks.
 Could I ask both of you whether you have gone to the Apple Menu and
 selected check for software updates to see if you are both running the
 latest version of Mavericks available?
 
 If you are running the latest version of Mavericks and this has still
 not sorted the problem then for whatever reason the patch Apple issued
 has not taken affect on your systems.
  If this is the case then the easiest way to resolve this may be a
 re-install or a clean install.
 The good news is that on the Mac this is a much easier and simpler
 exercise to complete than on Windows but check for whether you have the
 latest updates first.
 
 
 David Griffith
 
 
 
 
> On 17-08/2014 20:21, Kevin Cussick wrote:
> I am having the same problem,   sorry no help to you but just letting
> you your not the only one it is gmail at the moment but I have a
> blueyonder account not set it up yet.  I have had no help thus far.
> 
> On 15/08/2014 19:46, Jose
> wrote:
>> Hello; Listers, I need help! I called Apple because I am having
>> issues with Mail on my Mac! For some odd reason I am not getting
>> emails on my Mac! We tried everything and no go! It seems like my
>> emails are going to the Archive folder! I am getting email on my
>> iPhone it's just my Mac that is having issues! Please help!
>> 
>> Jose Lomeli
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: a possibliy new alternative for an accessible twitter client

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

sure.  It's accessible.  It's just very buggy. They are asking Mac users, 
especially those who use Voiceover to try it out and report back to them on 
bugs, and enhancements.

Thanks.

Ricardo Walker
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> On Aug 18, 2014, at 6:07 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> Hi. Is it accessible? I liked it on Windows and am interested in trying the 
> Mac version.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> 
>> On Aug 18, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Jonathan Candler  wrote:
>> 
>> I am testing TW blue right now and  it seems to be quite good! still
>> bugs, as expected, but, I do like it a lot!
>> 
>> On 8/18/14, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
 Hello list,
 
 TWBlue, which was an accessible twitter client on the Windows platform has
 just released what is basically an alpha version of their client on the
 Mac.  For those who want to help them get their client up to speed, by
 testing it, and reporting bugs, you can read about it and download it
 here.
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55398785/software/readme.html
 
 hth
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Re: Time Machine question

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Time Machine runs verifications every so often, to make sure your backups are 
sound.  I can assure you that even when I'm backed up to a Time Capsule, I 
occasionally have to erase the disk and start again.  Rather that than not have 
a current backup.  I know it's annoying.  I'd also advise you think about a 
second backup, if you want that extra peace of mind--perhaps a remote backup 
using something like Arq of all your critical stuff.

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Re: question about Clamxav

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

I wouldn't think ClamAV could scan your email in any useful way anyway.  It's 
stored by your ISP, so they should be the one scanning for you.  Should they 
not be doing this, but you are using POP3, then you could try scanning your 
Library folder, which would contain your email data, although I'd caution 
against doing this while Mail was running.  It all seems very fragile to me.

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question about Clamxav

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi guys 
I know that I need to point Clamxav at my email to make it scan it. However, I 
can't figure out whether it is scanning the email. I just ran a scan and it 
said it did not find any viruses. I would not be concerned, except a good 
friend's Windows computer just caught one, and I recently got an email from 
her, wherein I selected some text from an email she sent me. Somehow she 
couldn't do attachments which is weird because you would think a virus would be 
making them like crazy. So, how can I tell if my email got scanned? I looked in 
the table, and it shows all my files like Documents and my user folder (there's 
only one user, me, on this Mac.) 

Thanks guys. 

Regards, 
Gigi 

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Re: a possibliy new alternative for an accessible twitter client

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi. Is it accessible? I liked it on Windows and am interested in trying the Mac 
version.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

> On Aug 18, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Jonathan Candler  wrote:
> 
> I am testing TW blue right now and  it seems to be quite good! still
> bugs, as expected, but, I do like it a lot!
> 
> On 8/18/14, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>>> Hello list,
>>> 
>>> TWBlue, which was an accessible twitter client on the Windows platform has
>>> just released what is basically an alpha version of their client on the
>>> Mac.  For those who want to help them get their client up to speed, by
>>> testing it, and reporting bugs, you can read about it and download it
>>> here.
>>> 
>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55398785/software/readme.html
>>> 
>>> hth
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
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Re: how to create a Mavericks installer USB drive using a mountain lion machine?

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Yep, the reason for that you can't use Disk Utility to repartition is that it 
doesn't yet support manipulating CoreStorage groups, which is what 
FileVault-encrypted volumes and Fusion Drives are made from.  So if you have 
one of these, you have to drop to the command line to delete the CoreStorage 
group before you can go back to partitioning with Disk Utility.  In your case 
though, erasing the volume was perfectly sufficient to get you reinstalled, so 
you should be fine.

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Re: A script that would remove the preview pain?

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

I will need to get some batteries in my trackpad as they are dead at the 
moment.  Thanks.

Matthew


On Aug 18, 2014, at 3:17 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Hello Matthew,
> 
> Here's how to remove the preview pane.
> 
> If you're in classic view, navigate to the horizontal splitter between the 
> headers and the message. Bring the mouse. Press down on the trackpad with one 
> finger and stroke down the way on the trackpad with another finger.
> 
> Sometimes it can take several attempts before the preview pane is gone.
> 
> Interacting with the splitter and dragging it downwards just makes Mail go 
> busy.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> On 18 Aug 2014, at 02:51, matthew dyer  wrote:
> 
>> Evening all.
>> I was just wondering about a script that sould hide the preview pain in 
>> mail.  I had to reinstall mavrects and so I was wondering about it as 
>> someone posted it some time ago, but could not find it in the archives.  Any 
>> ideas?  If not I can take care of it as soon as I get new batteries in my 
>> track pad.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
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Re: a possibliy new alternative for an accessible twitter client

[Jonathan Candler]

I am testing TW blue right now and  it seems to be quite good! still
bugs, as expected, but, I do like it a lot!

On 8/18/14, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> Hello list,
>>
>> TWBlue, which was an accessible twitter client on the Windows platform has
>> just released what is basically an alpha version of their client on the
>> Mac.  For those who want to help them get their client up to speed, by
>> testing it, and reporting bugs, you can read about it and download it
>> here.
>>
>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55398785/software/readme.html
>>
>> hth
>
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> rica...@appletothecore.info
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Re: Need help! Very frustrated with mail on the Mac!

[Kevin Cussick]

But on the plus side I have had the most feedback on this list about 
this problem.


On 18/08/2014 15:07, Jose Lomeli wrote:

I have to go to the Apple store today!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 18, 2014, at 1:47 AM, Kevin Cussick 
 wrote:

Hi,   and does it now work? thanks for any help you maybe able to give.


On 17/08/2014 21:34, Jose Lomeli wrote:
Well I called Apple and I had to do a clean install!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 17, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Kevin Cussick 
 wrote:

thanks,   I have not tried this will try another day I have loads to do but 
good suggestion thanks.


On 17/08/2014 20:39, David Griffith wrote:
This was a well  known issue with the early releases of Mavericks but I
believed that this had been fixed by Apple in a subsequent update to the
OS. Certainly I am having absolutely no issues with G mail in my latest
version of Mavericks.
Could I ask both of you whether you have gone to the Apple Menu and
selected check for software updates to see if you are both running the
latest version of Mavericks available?

If you are running the latest version of Mavericks and this has still
not sorted the problem then for whatever reason the patch Apple issued
has not taken affect on your systems.
  If this is the case then the easiest way to resolve this may be a
re-install or a clean install.
The good news is that on the Mac this is a much easier and simpler
exercise to complete than on Windows but check for whether you have the
latest updates first.


David Griffith





On 17-08/2014 20:21, Kevin Cussick wrote:
I am having the same problem,   sorry no help to you but just letting
you your not the only one it is gmail at the moment but I have a
blueyonder account not set it up yet.  I have had no help thus far.

On 15/08/2014 19:46, Jose
wrote:

Hello; Listers, I need help! I called Apple because I am having
issues with Mail on my Mac! For some odd reason I am not getting
emails on my Mac! We tried everything and no go! It seems like my
emails are going to the Archive folder! I am getting email on my
iPhone it's just my Mac that is having issues! Please help!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone


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Re: Need help! Very frustrated with mail on the Mac!

[Kevin Cussick]

Let me know on or off list how you go please and if there was a fix let 
me know how Lol thanks very much.  i am sure I will get it in the end 
but I am a bit discouraged as the mack book pro is the only device I 
have any problems with.


On 18/08/2014 15:07, Jose Lomeli wrote:

I have to go to the Apple store today!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 18, 2014, at 1:47 AM, Kevin Cussick 
 wrote:

Hi,   and does it now work? thanks for any help you maybe able to give.


On 17/08/2014 21:34, Jose Lomeli wrote:
Well I called Apple and I had to do a clean install!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 17, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Kevin Cussick 
 wrote:

thanks,   I have not tried this will try another day I have loads to do but 
good suggestion thanks.


On 17/08/2014 20:39, David Griffith wrote:
This was a well  known issue with the early releases of Mavericks but I
believed that this had been fixed by Apple in a subsequent update to the
OS. Certainly I am having absolutely no issues with G mail in my latest
version of Mavericks.
Could I ask both of you whether you have gone to the Apple Menu and
selected check for software updates to see if you are both running the
latest version of Mavericks available?

If you are running the latest version of Mavericks and this has still
not sorted the problem then for whatever reason the patch Apple issued
has not taken affect on your systems.
  If this is the case then the easiest way to resolve this may be a
re-install or a clean install.
The good news is that on the Mac this is a much easier and simpler
exercise to complete than on Windows but check for whether you have the
latest updates first.


David Griffith





On 17-08/2014 20:21, Kevin Cussick wrote:
I am having the same problem,   sorry no help to you but just letting
you your not the only one it is gmail at the moment but I have a
blueyonder account not set it up yet.  I have had no help thus far.

On 15/08/2014 19:46, Jose
wrote:

Hello; Listers, I need help! I called Apple because I am having
issues with Mail on my Mac! For some odd reason I am not getting
emails on my Mac! We tried everything and no go! It seems like my
emails are going to the Archive folder! I am getting email on my
iPhone it's just my Mac that is having issues! Please help!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone


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Re: macs and braille displays

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Hmmm.  I don't fail to acknowledge, I just don't think it's a very good excuse. 
:)

I do understand what you're saying, and I'm happy in my own way with my chosen 
path for all the reasons many listers on here can share, but braille support 
has been here since Snow Leopard.  It has not been substantially improved since 
then; in fact, about the only improvement I can see is international grade 2 
braille translation, which I thought was very welcome.  iOS, on the other hand, 
has seen and continues to see point updates for more braille displays, more 
languages, better text input, and probably more that I've forgotten.  We've got 
to face it, Mac OS's braille support isn't a priority for Apple.  GW Micro came 
out with braille support last, and even they've managed to honour user demand 
with their painfully slow release history, especially in recent years.  If the 
Mac is going to attract blind people, it won't be because of its braille 
support.  I think potential purchasers should know that.

I want to believe that Apple will revisit braille in future.  I want to believe 
that even point updates can bring OS X up to speed, even to iOS, which itself 
isn't all that terrific, but gets better all the time.  Right now, though, the 
feeling is definitely one of mediocrity, as you've noted.  They should mark the 
braille support as "Beta".

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a possibliy new alternative for an accessible twitter client

[Ricardo Walker]

> Hello list,
> 
> TWBlue, which was an accessible twitter client on the Windows platform has 
> just released what is basically an alpha version of their client on the Mac.  
> For those who want to help them get their client up to speed, by testing it, 
> and reporting bugs, you can read about it and download it here.
> 
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55398785/software/readme.html
> 
> hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

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Re: macs and braille displays

[Cheryl Homiak]

While I realize that braille on the Mac still has plenty of room for 
improvement, i am still glad to have it. For one thing, to say that it is 
behind "even" compared to other graphical screenreaders fails to acknowledge 
that most of the other screenreaders have been under development for years and 
are being worked on by companies that concentrate on blindness or low vision 
issues. So I am not thinking that I would necessarily expect voiceover's 
braille to be in the lead at this point. Furthermore, I would not like to see 
Apple give up on braille and leave its further progress to companies that will 
charge me a great deal of money to add their products to my computer. Certainly 
there are free screenreaders and certainly the need for the pricing can 
honestly be debated; that is not my point. I appreciate that much useful effort 
is being made and I intend to do everything I can to encourage this while at 
the same time pointing out the shortcomings. I am not saying we should just 
accept whatever is given because it is built in to the product without 
additional cost nor am i saying we should hold the braille in Apple to a lower 
standard but I am saying these factors need to be taken into account.

 
> On Aug 18, 2014, at 12:59 PM, The Believer  wrote:
> 
>   Are you wanting full braille access without VO involved at all? Perhaps I 
> am pragmatic about this as I take advantage of what I have. It may be I do 
> not realize what I am not missing. :)
> 
> From The Believer. . .
>  What if it were true?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 8/18/2014 10:24 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
>> When it's muted.  It can't be completely off.
>> 
>> Different displays will be different for convenient access from the display 
>> itself, but you can still (I would argue, inconveniently) access VoiceOver 
>> from the keyboard while using braille, no matter the display.  Ditto for the 
>> trackpad, if you have one.
>> 
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Re: macs and braille displays

[The Believer]

   Are you wanting full braille access without VO involved at all? 
Perhaps I am pragmatic about this as I take advantage of what I have. It 
may be I do not realize what I am not missing. :)


From The Believer. . .
  What if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 8/18/2014 10:24 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:

When it's muted.  It can't be completely off.

Different displays will be different for convenient access from the display 
itself, but you can still (I would argue, inconveniently) access VoiceOver from 
the keyboard while using braille, no matter the display.  Ditto for the 
trackpad, if you have one.



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Re: Accessible and Automated OCR Workflow

[Antoine McGrath]

Keith I like the initial OCR check which you set up in the PDFPen Pro 
script. and would imagine you brought the pre check over to your abbyy 
version as well. 
A hat tip to Mr. Domachowski for this post for automating abbyy ocr: 
https://plus.google.com/111266471239358783685/posts/FEhrGUQXqGw

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Re: macs and braille displays

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

When it's muted.  It can't be completely off.

Different displays will be different for convenient access from the display 
itself, but you can still (I would argue, inconveniently) access VoiceOver from 
the keyboard while using braille, no matter the display.  Ditto for the 
trackpad, if you have one.

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Re: macs and braille displays

[The Believer]

   Maybe I am missing the target here. Are you talking about when VO is 
disabled, or muted?


From The Believer. . .
  What if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 8/18/2014 8:34 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
I can't.
You have to have speech turned on!
I have tried to explain that when i wrote to the accessibility team but i am 
not sure they'll understand.
Or listen.
/A
17 aug 2014 kl. 19:44 skrev Sabahattin Gucukoglu :


I'm just not happy with VoiceOver's braille support for a variety of reasons 
which I've restated many times on here. It's behind even the other graphical 
screen readers.

But you don't have to take my word for it, just perform this simple test: turn 
speech off. Can you manage with braille only?

Cheers,
Sabahattin

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Re: Clean My Mac 2

[Christopher Hallsworth]

All I know so far is a scan is performed before a clean. After the scan 
you can view the details in a separate table, but actual filenames are 
shown which could be cryptic for some.


Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 18/08/2014 13:22, Eugenia Firth wrote:

Hi Christopher
This program was recommended to me by a sighted friend also, but I have a 
question here. I went to Google and searched for Clean My Mac and found a 
statement that made me a little concerned until I figure it out. It said 
something about taking out language files. Now since I only speak English, 
maybe I wouldn't care unless somebody I wanted to sell my Mac to sometime in 
the far distant future wanted other languages. The other thing is, I was 
concerned that it would decide that I didn't need all those extra braille 
display drivers or even printer drivers it decided I didn't need. Did the 
program take off things like that, or does it give you a choice of whether you 
want to do any deletions like that? Maybe I found the wrong thing when I saw 
that statement.

Also, I noticed this program isn't in the App Store. Do you know why it would 
not be in there?

Gigi

On Aug 18, 2014, at 2:01 AM, Christopher Hallsworth  
wrote:


Hello everybody
This is to say I have tried and quickly bought the much talked about Clean My 
Mac 2 application for my Late 2011 Macbook Pro. All I can say is it is 
incredible! One feature that stands out for me is the ability to reset 
applications in the uninstaller section. So say you screwed up settings in an 
application? No problem! Use this feature to cleanly reset the application! I 
of course like the other features as well but this one stands out above the 
rest for me personally. I downloaded and bought this application from
www.macpaw.com
or google Clean My Mac.
One thing to note and have contacted the support team already regarding the 
below.
When placing an order be mindful of some unlabelled radio buttons. I ended up 
placing a bank transfer order because of this. I have requested them to cancel 
the mistakened order otherwise goodness knows what would happen after the due 
date. I managed to place a second order with PayPal which turned out to be the 
second of four unlabelled radio button. So please be mindful of this ok. 
Otherwise enjoy the application!

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Re: how to create a Mavericks installer USB drive using a mountain lion machine?

[Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona]

there is also lion disk maker
it also works for mavericks as well as mountain lion and lion disks
didn't have to go threw all those extra steps
it is also free ware
hth
Hank

On 8/18/2014 3:38 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

I noticed that also and thought that's great.

Kawal.


On 18 Aug 2014, at 11:07 am, Paul Erkens  wrote:

Hi Georgina and Sabahattin,

Thanks so much. The problem is solved. Mavericks now runs freshly on my 
macbook. With ml and earlier, it was easy to simply unpack the big dmg file for 
the operating system, found in the downloaded app bundle. to a USB drive. This 
new way of doing it was unknown to me. This time I did not have to go through 
these hoops, but I'm definitely saving your messages for future use.

I found out about an interesting change in disk utility in Mavericks, when 
compared to the older mountain lion version, just for those interested. In ml 
and earlier, if you booted from the recovery mac partition, command r after the 
chime while turning the computer on, then we could not delete the macintosh hd 
partition with disk utility, as long as it was still encrypted. The process was 
tedious. I used to have to boot up normally, turn of filevault, then let it do 
its decryption process which takes hours, and only then can you reboot into the 
recovery partition, and delete the macintosh partition from there. Now with 
Mavericks, this is different. Whether or not macintosh hd is encrypted, you can 
now wipe it using disk utility, before doing a reinstall from the recovery 
partition.

Paul.

On Aug 16, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:

Hello Paul,

Yes you can. What you need to do.

Go to your app store on the ML machine.

Download Mavericks and when the installer starts, press cancel.
Then you can provide a command line
to write it to a USB stick greater than 7.9 Gb.

Many of us did this when Mavericks first came out and discussed it here. So you 
can look through this list archives. Or just use your favourite search engine. 
I think there are a few utilities to automate the procedure, if that is what 
you want.

In reading Mac World's guide. They suggest you should boot up your machine in 
recovery mode and use disk utility to attempt to repair the disk firstly to 
ensure it is functional. Article link below.

However, you should be able to sort it out yourself, I suspect. The machine 
doesn't know your wireless access details. Either open up your wireless or use 
a ethernet cable to link the Pro to the router.

http://www.macworld.com/article/2056543/installing-mavericks-our-complete-guide.html

Good luck.

Gena





On 16 Aug 2014, at 20:06, Paul Erkens  wrote:

Dear listers,

I have 2 machines, a mini and a macbook, where the macbook won't boot any 
longer. I'm now writing on my mac mini, which has Mountain Lion. I'd rather not 
yet update this machine to Mavericks, because I'm waiting for Yosemite. My 
macbook is indeed running Mavericks already.

This afternoon, the Mavericks macbook somehow died. It won't boot. My wife 
tells me there's an infinite beach ball, and the system has been used so 
intensively, that I wanted to reinstall Mavericks anyway, and start anew. That 
is because my macbook had lion, mountain lion, and then I updated that to 
Mavericks, and the macbook deserves a fresh install. Unfortunately, the macbook 
won't boot anymore.

I thought I would first restore my latest macbook time machine backup. This 
went, but failed before getting to 1 %.

If I start up the macbook from its recovery partition and I then try to 
reinstall OS 10, it asks for my Apple ID, and it won't get passed that, even 
though there is a wifi connection according to my sighted wife. It keeps 
saying: signing in to the app store, for 15 minutes. Then I gave up on that. So 
now, I would like to create a Mavericks USB stick, and reinstall  Mavericks 
from there. My macbook running Mavericks, won't boot, nor recover, so that 
machine is not an option to create the USB recovery drive with. I'll have to 
create a Mavericks USB recovery stick using my mac mini, which runs Mountain 
lion.

 From what I discovered, I can indeed create a recovery USB drive, using my 
mountain lion machine. I downloaded the Mavericks installer app, I downloaded 
the diskmaker program, but when I run disk maker, it tells me that it can only 
create a mountain lion USB recovery disk, and not one for Mavericks. This is 
because disk maker detected mountain lion running on the system.

So, is there any way you can think of, that I can use to create a Mavericks USB 
bootable installer drive for Mavericks, using my mountain lion machine? I could 
update this mountain lion machine and be out of trouble right away. However, I 
bumped into numerous Mavericks issues that don't occur on my current mountain 
lion installation. So, if possible, I'd like to keep using ML for a few more 
months, until we have Yosemite. I'm very interested to hear your solution if 
there is one.

Regards,
Paul.

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Re: reading the system log.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Oh, ofcourse.
I am a dummy.
/A
18 aug 2014 kl. 09:54 skrev Jason White :

> Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> I try to read the system log just because i am intrested.
>> However the  log seems unreadable in the system messages program.
>> Can i review the log in a text editor.
> 
> Use the syslog command. See
> https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man1/syslog.1.html
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Re: macs and braille displays

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I can't.
You have to have speech turned on!
I have tried to explain that when i wrote to the accessibility team but i am 
not sure they'll understand.
Or listen.
/A
17 aug 2014 kl. 19:44 skrev Sabahattin Gucukoglu :

> I'm just not happy with VoiceOver's braille support for a variety of reasons 
> which I've restated many times on here. It's behind even the other graphical 
> screen readers.
> 
> But you don't have to take my word for it, just perform this simple test: 
> turn speech off. Can you manage with braille only?
> 
> Cheers,
> Sabahattin
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Re: Time Machine question

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

The suggestion just may take you out of that cycle.  Time Machine already is 
set to delete older backups to free up space.  The problem arises when your 
initial backup uses up a large percentage of the HD and when Time Machine goes 
to remove older backups, the initial backup will still use up lots of HD space 
and the smaller incremental backups don't actually free up enough space to do 
any good.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 18, 2014, at 7:18 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:

> Yes, I can do that.  But then in a month or two I will have to do it again.
> Was hoping to find the correct way out of this cycle.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu
> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 2:29 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Time Machine question
> 
> If you don't mind losing all your Time Machine history for now, simply
> reformat your target disk using Disk Utility.  Any problem with the disk
> will then be solved and Time Machine should resume.  Yes, it's inconvenient,
> but at least you haven't lost any current data.
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Re: assistance with skype, adium, and mail

[Matt Dierckens]

Hello Scott, Please email me off list to dicuss assistance with your mac.

Matt Dierckens
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Personal email: matt.dierck...@gmail.com

On Aug 17, 2014, at 21:31, Scott Shade  wrote:

> Hello all.  I'm trying to get up to speed with mail, skype, and adium on the 
> mac.  However, I need podcasts or one on one with setting up my mail 
> accounts, and if someone can, a quick how to on how to navigate adium, and 
> skype.  Those two programs make me want to cringe. Thanks for any help you 
> can give,
> Scott
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Re: Need help! Very frustrated with mail on the Mac!

[Jose Lomeli]

I have to go to the Apple store today!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 18, 2014, at 1:47 AM, Kevin Cussick 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,   and does it now work? thanks for any help you maybe able to give.
> 
>> On 17/08/2014 21:34, Jose Lomeli wrote:
>> Well I called Apple and I had to do a clean install!
>> 
>> Jose Lomeli
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Kevin Cussick 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> thanks,   I have not tried this will try another day I have loads to do but 
>>> good suggestion thanks.
>>> 
 On 17/08/2014 20:39, David Griffith wrote:
 This was a well  known issue with the early releases of Mavericks but I
 believed that this had been fixed by Apple in a subsequent update to the
 OS. Certainly I am having absolutely no issues with G mail in my latest
 version of Mavericks.
 Could I ask both of you whether you have gone to the Apple Menu and
 selected check for software updates to see if you are both running the
 latest version of Mavericks available?
 
 If you are running the latest version of Mavericks and this has still
 not sorted the problem then for whatever reason the patch Apple issued
 has not taken affect on your systems.
  If this is the case then the easiest way to resolve this may be a
 re-install or a clean install.
 The good news is that on the Mac this is a much easier and simpler
 exercise to complete than on Windows but check for whether you have the
 latest updates first.
 
 
 David Griffith
 
 
 
 
> On 17-08/2014 20:21, Kevin Cussick wrote:
> I am having the same problem,   sorry no help to you but just letting
> you your not the only one it is gmail at the moment but I have a
> blueyonder account not set it up yet.  I have had no help thus far.
> 
> On 15/08/2014 19:46, Jose
> wrote:
>> Hello; Listers, I need help! I called Apple because I am having
>> issues with Mail on my Mac! For some odd reason I am not getting
>> emails on my Mac! We tried everything and no go! It seems like my
>> emails are going to the Archive folder! I am getting email on my
>> iPhone it's just my Mac that is having issues! Please help!
>> 
>> Jose Lomeli
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Time Machine question

[Bill Holton]

Yes, I can do that.  But then in a month or two I will have to do it again.
Was hoping to find the correct way out of this cycle.


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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Time Machine question

If you don't mind losing all your Time Machine history for now, simply
reformat your target disk using Disk Utility.  Any problem with the disk
will then be solved and Time Machine should resume.  Yes, it's inconvenient,
but at least you haven't lost any current data.

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RE: Remapping keys with VM fusion

[Bill Holton]

Thanks.  That was a big help.


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton Senior
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 6:57 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Remapping keys with VM fusion

Below is what I found in my collection of mac tutorials.
Mapping keys in fusion

> First off, it is true that you have no insert key on the mac, while you
often
> do need one in windows. You can create a key mapping for yourself in 1 of
2
> ways. Either using fusion itself, and there is no real down side as far as
I'm
> aware, but it is a little tricky to set up because of an interface issue
in
> fusion. The other way to get an insert key is to use the sharp keys
program.
> Sharp keys lets you remap a few more keys than fusion will allow. For
> example, using sharp keys, you can even remap your right command, or
> your right option key, to the windows insert.
> 
> If you do it via fusion, then all your virtual machines will get an insert
key. If
> you have windows 7 and xp like I do, creating the insert key using the
fusion
> keyboard remapper creates it for all virtual machines because fusion only
> allows you to do it inside its global preferences, command comma, and not
> on a per machine basis, command e.
> 
> If you create your insert key using sharp keys, then it is going to be a
local
> setting for that windows installation only, because sharp keys modifies
the
> windows registry to do the trick. Both methods will give you the same
> result: an insert key that is not just insert, but that can be held down
as if it
> were a modifier key for other keys.
> 
> This answers your other issue, where caps lock cannot be used inside the
> virtual machine as a modifier. It works as  a caps lock, but you can't
hold it
> down and press a letter inside the virtual machine, in order to give
> commands to your screen reader. Sharp keys and fusion itself though, will
> give you an insert key like the one on a normal windows computer. This
lets
> you use insert rather than caps lock for your screen reader's commands, so
> let's concentrate on insert, and I will leave caps lock for someone else.
> 
> Now, let's look at the way you can do it inside fusion. I'm using fusion
3.1.3,
> which is the latest version as of today. To update, go to the menu bar in
> fusion, vo m, then once right, then down to check for updates, and then
> follow the instructions.
> 
> First, fire up fusion and, just to be certain, have your virtual machines
shut
> down. Then press command comma to open fusion's global preferences.
> 
> At the top of this window is a toolbar. Interact with it and click
keyboard and
> mouse. A new window will appear.
> 
> The first thing you will encounter is a pop up button where you choose
your
> keyboard and mouse profile. The window itself consists of 4 tab sheets,
and
> all those settings together are stored in a keyboard and mouse profile. I
> don't think we will ever need a second profile, but that's what the button
> allows. Leave it at its default.
> 
> The first tab sheet of this dialog,  named, key mappings, is where you can
> swap your windows logo and alt keys. By default, fusion will map your
> command key to the windows logo key, and your option key to the windows
> alt key. This is not very intuitive for those of us who are used to
windows
> and its keyboard layout, but it's easy to swap them. See below. In this
> window, you will also be able to create your insert key inside fusion, and
if
> you want, give yourself a numb lock toggle as well.
> 
> If you look at this table, then many mac keys are mapped to some windows
> counterparts. Personally, I don't think that is necessary at all. For
example,
> in windows, you use control plus c to copy an item to the clipboard. On
the
> mac, we're used to pressing command plus c to copy. In fusion, there is a
> default key mapping that makes command c the equivalent of control c. In
> other words, pressing control c or command c in windows will do the same
> thing. This is non-standard windows tweaking I don't like, so what I did
to
> begin with, is clear this entire list. To the right of this table, you
have 2
> unlabeled buttons. The left one is add, and the right one is delete and
entry
> in this table. Just focus on the right button of the 2, and hit vo space
until
> the list is empty. You will also delete the undesired alt and windows logo
> key mappings this way.
> 
> Now, you must create your own mappings, so that your mac command key
> will become the alt key in windows, and so that your option key can become
> your windows logo key inside windows. Here's how to do it.
> 
> First, click add, to add a new mapping to the table. This is the left
unlabeled
> button, to the right of the table. A new window appears, that you will
later
> close with an ok button to return here.
> 
> In the new window, you see your mac modifier keys with checkboxes, and a
> combo box for an ad

RE: Remapping keys with VM fusion

[Bill Holton]

HI.
If you swap the option and command key, all you have to do is press
CTRL-command, jwait a second, then command tab works just as usual.  You can
also press VO-D to get back to the desktop, the alt-command.


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Taylor
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 5:15 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion

Hi,

Couple of points here. Firstly, if you delete all the built in keystrokes,
you have to do a lot of finger contortions that you don't actually need to
do, given that the mac keystrokes are much easier to reach than the windows
ones. I would advise people to keep them, they can actually come in really
handy. Secondly, and more importantly, if you swap the windows and alt keys
round in Windows, how can you command-tab away from Fusion, as command is
now alt, so would give you the alt-tab keystroke in Windows? Yes, it takes a
little getting used to the fusion arrangement, but it gives you far more
flexibility than doing this remapping does.

Cheers
Dave

On 17 Aug 2014, at 11:57, Kliphton Senior  wrote:

> Below is what I found in my collection of mac tutorials.
> Mapping keys in fusion
> 
>> First off, it is true that you have no insert key on the mac, while you
> often
>> do need one in windows. You can create a key mapping for yourself in 1 of
> 2
>> ways. Either using fusion itself, and there is no real down side as far
as
> I'm
>> aware, but it is a little tricky to set up because of an interface issue
> in
>> fusion. The other way to get an insert key is to use the sharp keys
> program.
>> Sharp keys lets you remap a few more keys than fusion will allow. For
>> example, using sharp keys, you can even remap your right command, or
>> your right option key, to the windows insert.
>> 
>> If you do it via fusion, then all your virtual machines will get an
insert
> key. If
>> you have windows 7 and xp like I do, creating the insert key using the
> fusion
>> keyboard remapper creates it for all virtual machines because fusion only
>> allows you to do it inside its global preferences, command comma, and not
>> on a per machine basis, command e.
>> 
>> If you create your insert key using sharp keys, then it is going to be a
> local
>> setting for that windows installation only, because sharp keys modifies
> the
>> windows registry to do the trick. Both methods will give you the same
>> result: an insert key that is not just insert, but that can be held down
> as if it
>> were a modifier key for other keys.
>> 
>> This answers your other issue, where caps lock cannot be used inside the
>> virtual machine as a modifier. It works as  a caps lock, but you can't
> hold it
>> down and press a letter inside the virtual machine, in order to give
>> commands to your screen reader. Sharp keys and fusion itself though, will
>> give you an insert key like the one on a normal windows computer. This
> lets
>> you use insert rather than caps lock for your screen reader's commands,
so
>> let's concentrate on insert, and I will leave caps lock for someone else.
>> 
>> Now, let's look at the way you can do it inside fusion. I'm using fusion
> 3.1.3,
>> which is the latest version as of today. To update, go to the menu bar in
>> fusion, vo m, then once right, then down to check for updates, and then
>> follow the instructions.
>> 
>> First, fire up fusion and, just to be certain, have your virtual machines
> shut
>> down. Then press command comma to open fusion's global preferences.
>> 
>> At the top of this window is a toolbar. Interact with it and click
> keyboard and
>> mouse. A new window will appear.
>> 
>> The first thing you will encounter is a pop up button where you choose
> your
>> keyboard and mouse profile. The window itself consists of 4 tab sheets,
> and
>> all those settings together are stored in a keyboard and mouse profile. I
>> don't think we will ever need a second profile, but that's what the
button
>> allows. Leave it at its default.
>> 
>> The first tab sheet of this dialog,  named, key mappings, is where you
can
>> swap your windows logo and alt keys. By default, fusion will map your
>> command key to the windows logo key, and your option key to the windows
>> alt key. This is not very intuitive for those of us who are used to
> windows
>> and its keyboard layout, but it's easy to swap them. See below. In this
>> window, you will also be able to create your insert key inside fusion,
and
> if
>> you want, give yourself a numb lock toggle as well.
>> 
>> If you look at this table, then many mac keys are mapped to some windows
>> counterparts. Personally, I don't think that is necessary at all. For
> example,
>> in windows, you use control plus c to copy an item to the clipboard. On
> the
>> mac, we're used to pressing command plus c to copy. In fusion, there is a
>> default key mapping that makes command c the equivalent of control c. In
>> other words

Re: Clean My Mac 2

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi Christopher 
This program was recommended to me by a sighted friend also, but I have a 
question here. I went to Google and searched for Clean My Mac and found a 
statement that made me a little concerned until I figure it out. It said 
something about taking out language files. Now since I only speak English, 
maybe I wouldn't care unless somebody I wanted to sell my Mac to sometime in 
the far distant future wanted other languages. The other thing is, I was 
concerned that it would decide that I didn't need all those extra braille 
display drivers or even printer drivers it decided I didn't need. Did the 
program take off things like that, or does it give you a choice of whether you 
want to do any deletions like that? Maybe I found the wrong thing when I saw 
that statement. 

Also, I noticed this program isn't in the App Store. Do you know why it would 
not be in there? 

Gigi 

On Aug 18, 2014, at 2:01 AM, Christopher Hallsworth  
wrote:

> Hello everybody
> This is to say I have tried and quickly bought the much talked about Clean My 
> Mac 2 application for my Late 2011 Macbook Pro. All I can say is it is 
> incredible! One feature that stands out for me is the ability to reset 
> applications in the uninstaller section. So say you screwed up settings in an 
> application? No problem! Use this feature to cleanly reset the application! I 
> of course like the other features as well but this one stands out above the 
> rest for me personally. I downloaded and bought this application from
> www.macpaw.com
> or google Clean My Mac.
> One thing to note and have contacted the support team already regarding the 
> below.
> When placing an order be mindful of some unlabelled radio buttons. I ended up 
> placing a bank transfer order because of this. I have requested them to 
> cancel the mistakened order otherwise goodness knows what would happen after 
> the due date. I managed to place a second order with PayPal which turned out 
> to be the second of four unlabelled radio button. So please be mindful of 
> this ok. Otherwise enjoy the application!
> 
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> www.hadley.edu
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Re: how to create a Mavericks installer USB drive using a mountain lion machine?

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I noticed that also and thought that's great.

Kawal.

> On 18 Aug 2014, at 11:07 am, Paul Erkens  wrote:
> 
> Hi Georgina and Sabahattin,
> 
> Thanks so much. The problem is solved. Mavericks now runs freshly on my 
> macbook. With ml and earlier, it was easy to simply unpack the big dmg file 
> for the operating system, found in the downloaded app bundle. to a USB drive. 
> This new way of doing it was unknown to me. This time I did not have to go 
> through these hoops, but I'm definitely saving your messages for future use.
> 
> I found out about an interesting change in disk utility in Mavericks, when 
> compared to the older mountain lion version, just for those interested. In ml 
> and earlier, if you booted from the recovery mac partition, command r after 
> the chime while turning the computer on, then we could not delete the 
> macintosh hd partition with disk utility, as long as it was still encrypted. 
> The process was tedious. I used to have to boot up normally, turn of 
> filevault, then let it do its decryption process which takes hours, and only 
> then can you reboot into the recovery partition, and delete the macintosh 
> partition from there. Now with Mavericks, this is different. Whether or not 
> macintosh hd is encrypted, you can now wipe it using disk utility, before 
> doing a reinstall from the recovery partition.
> 
> Paul.
>> On Aug 16, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Paul,
>> 
>> Yes you can. What you need to do.
>> 
>> Go to your app store on the ML machine.
>> 
>> Download Mavericks and when the installer starts, press cancel.
>> Then you can provide a command line
>> to write it to a USB stick greater than 7.9 Gb.
>> 
>> Many of us did this when Mavericks first came out and discussed it here. So 
>> you can look through this list archives. Or just use your favourite search 
>> engine. I think there are a few utilities to automate the procedure, if that 
>> is what you want.
>> 
>> In reading Mac World's guide. They suggest you should boot up your machine 
>> in recovery mode and use disk utility to attempt to repair the disk firstly 
>> to ensure it is functional. Article link below.
>> 
>> However, you should be able to sort it out yourself, I suspect. The machine 
>> doesn't know your wireless access details. Either open up your wireless or 
>> use a ethernet cable to link the Pro to the router.
>> 
>> http://www.macworld.com/article/2056543/installing-mavericks-our-complete-guide.html
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 16 Aug 2014, at 20:06, Paul Erkens  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear listers,
>>> 
>>> I have 2 machines, a mini and a macbook, where the macbook won't boot any 
>>> longer. I'm now writing on my mac mini, which has Mountain Lion. I'd rather 
>>> not yet update this machine to Mavericks, because I'm waiting for Yosemite. 
>>> My macbook is indeed running Mavericks already.
>>> 
>>> This afternoon, the Mavericks macbook somehow died. It won't boot. My wife 
>>> tells me there's an infinite beach ball, and the system has been used so 
>>> intensively, that I wanted to reinstall Mavericks anyway, and start anew. 
>>> That is because my macbook had lion, mountain lion, and then I updated that 
>>> to Mavericks, and the macbook deserves a fresh install. Unfortunately, the 
>>> macbook won't boot anymore.
>>> 
>>> I thought I would first restore my latest macbook time machine backup. This 
>>> went, but failed before getting to 1 %.
>>> 
>>> If I start up the macbook from its recovery partition and I then try to 
>>> reinstall OS 10, it asks for my Apple ID, and it won't get passed that, 
>>> even though there is a wifi connection according to my sighted wife. It 
>>> keeps saying: signing in to the app store, for 15 minutes. Then I gave up 
>>> on that. So now, I would like to create a Mavericks USB stick, and 
>>> reinstall  Mavericks from there. My macbook running Mavericks, won't boot, 
>>> nor recover, so that machine is not an option to create the USB recovery 
>>> drive with. I'll have to create a Mavericks USB recovery stick using my mac 
>>> mini, which runs Mountain lion.
>>> 
>>> From what I discovered, I can indeed create a recovery USB drive, using my 
>>> mountain lion machine. I downloaded the Mavericks installer app, I 
>>> downloaded the diskmaker program, but when I run disk maker, it tells me 
>>> that it can only create a mountain lion USB recovery disk, and not one for 
>>> Mavericks. This is because disk maker detected mountain lion running on the 
>>> system.
>>> 
>>> So, is there any way you can think of, that I can use to create a Mavericks 
>>> USB bootable installer drive for Mavericks, using my mountain lion machine? 
>>> I could update this mountain lion machine and be out of trouble right away. 
>>> However, I bumped into numerous Mavericks issues that don't occur on my 
>>> current mountain lion installation. So, if possible, I'd like to keep using 
>>> ML for a few more months, until we have Yosemite. I

Re: iCloud filtering?

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

This is for anyone who wishes to make E-mail rules glogally using I Cloud. 

1. Go to wWw.Icloud.com. Then log in to your Icloud account. 

Find the button that says get mail. 

2. Make sure you interact with the mail frame. 

3. There will be a list of buttons. Such as mail preferences mail account etc. 

4. find the add rule button and make sure your Voice Over cursor is there by 
routing it if you have to and VO shift F3 to click it. 

5. Here is the tricky bit. you have to select the CC and address field or from 
field  as there are a list of buttons. once selected, you go in to the edit 
field by pressing tab. then you paste the name of the list such as the APPLE 
For beginners E-mail address and then VO right until you get to choose folder 
pop up button. Select the folder where you want your mail to go. This means 
before you even do this process, you go in to the list of your mailboxes on 
your Mac and create a new folder. Once all this is done, VO right to the done 
button. then VO left again until you find another done button. 

You follow all these steps again if you want to add more rules for whatever 
mailing list you are on. Each time you do this, your list of rules will show. A 
bit more messing about if you want to edit rules as you have to click the right 
mail rule you set up  with routing your VO mouse. A bit hard to do but you get 
there.

This is the global way of doing it, as you can set rules using your Mac but you 
might want to use your I phone or Ipad to collect mail.

Let me know how it goes. I have done this from memory as I am at work using 
windows. I will send this to the Apple for beginners and Macvisionary list  as 
someone was asking the same questions.

Kawal.

> On 18 Aug 2014, at 10:37 am, Kliphton Senior  wrote:
> 
> I was talking about when you mentioned you were setting rules for the groups 
> email?  How did you do that?
>  
> Kliphton
> ~iMessage&Email~ m.kliph...@gmail.com
> ~Twitter&Skype~ kliphton72
> “Personal blog-read at your own risk!” http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com
>  
> From: Kawal Gucukoglu [mailto:kgli...@icloud.com] 
> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 4:28 AM
> To: Kliphton Senior
> Subject: Re: iCloud filtering?
>  
> I have never done I cloud Philtering or if I have I have just get my Mac to 
> delete junk so had to set it up using the Mac rather than my I phone. I would 
> go in to mail preferences using Apple Mail.
>  
> Sorry if I can't be of more help. 
> 
> On 18 Aug 2014, at 10:11 am, Kliphton Senior  wrote:
> 
> Hi, can you tell me how much sorting of email you were able to do on your 
> own?  Were you able to create filters, folders, and what area do you filter, 
> the two address, or subject line?  I wish apple made this part more 
> accessible.
>  
> Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want quick 
> efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to contribute?  
> Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are always 
> patient with you.
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> All are welcome!
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[Kliphton Senior]

Hello, Tim could you email me at

m.kliph...@gmail.com  

Thanks.

 

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Re: how to create a Mavericks installer USB drive using a mountain lion machine?

[Paul Erkens]

Hi Georgina and Sabahattin,

Thanks so much. The problem is solved. Mavericks now runs freshly on my 
macbook. With ml and earlier, it was easy to simply unpack the big dmg file for 
the operating system, found in the downloaded app bundle. to a USB drive. This 
new way of doing it was unknown to me. This time I did not have to go through 
these hoops, but I'm definitely saving your messages for future use.

I found out about an interesting change in disk utility in Mavericks, when 
compared to the older mountain lion version, just for those interested. In ml 
and earlier, if you booted from the recovery mac partition, command r after the 
chime while turning the computer on, then we could not delete the macintosh hd 
partition with disk utility, as long as it was still encrypted. The process was 
tedious. I used to have to boot up normally, turn of filevault, then let it do 
its decryption process which takes hours, and only then can you reboot into the 
recovery partition, and delete the macintosh partition from there. Now with 
Mavericks, this is different. Whether or not macintosh hd is encrypted, you can 
now wipe it using disk utility, before doing a reinstall from the recovery 
partition.

Paul.
On Aug 16, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:

> Hello Paul,
> 
> Yes you can. What you need to do.
> 
> Go to your app store on the ML machine.
> 
> Download Mavericks and when the installer starts, press cancel.
> Then you can provide a command line
> to write it to a USB stick greater than 7.9 Gb.
> 
> Many of us did this when Mavericks first came out and discussed it here. So 
> you can look through this list archives. Or just use your favourite search 
> engine. I think there are a few utilities to automate the procedure, if that 
> is what you want.
> 
> In reading Mac World's guide. They suggest you should boot up your machine in 
> recovery mode and use disk utility to attempt to repair the disk firstly to 
> ensure it is functional. Article link below.
> 
> However, you should be able to sort it out yourself, I suspect. The machine 
> doesn't know your wireless access details. Either open up your wireless or 
> use a ethernet cable to link the Pro to the router.
> 
> http://www.macworld.com/article/2056543/installing-mavericks-our-complete-guide.html
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Gena
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 16 Aug 2014, at 20:06, Paul Erkens  wrote:
> 
>> Dear listers,
>> 
>> I have 2 machines, a mini and a macbook, where the macbook won't boot any 
>> longer. I'm now writing on my mac mini, which has Mountain Lion. I'd rather 
>> not yet update this machine to Mavericks, because I'm waiting for Yosemite. 
>> My macbook is indeed running Mavericks already.
>> 
>> This afternoon, the Mavericks macbook somehow died. It won't boot. My wife 
>> tells me there's an infinite beach ball, and the system has been used so 
>> intensively, that I wanted to reinstall Mavericks anyway, and start anew. 
>> That is because my macbook had lion, mountain lion, and then I updated that 
>> to Mavericks, and the macbook deserves a fresh install. Unfortunately, the 
>> macbook won't boot anymore.
>> 
>> I thought I would first restore my latest macbook time machine backup. This 
>> went, but failed before getting to 1 %.
>> 
>> If I start up the macbook from its recovery partition and I then try to 
>> reinstall OS 10, it asks for my Apple ID, and it won't get passed that, even 
>> though there is a wifi connection according to my sighted wife. It keeps 
>> saying: signing in to the app store, for 15 minutes. Then I gave up on that. 
>> So now, I would like to create a Mavericks USB stick, and reinstall  
>> Mavericks from there. My macbook running Mavericks, won't boot, nor recover, 
>> so that machine is not an option to create the USB recovery drive with. I'll 
>> have to create a Mavericks USB recovery stick using my mac mini, which runs 
>> Mountain lion.
>> 
>> From what I discovered, I can indeed create a recovery USB drive, using my 
>> mountain lion machine. I downloaded the Mavericks installer app, I 
>> downloaded the diskmaker program, but when I run disk maker, it tells me 
>> that it can only create a mountain lion USB recovery disk, and not one for 
>> Mavericks. This is because disk maker detected mountain lion running on the 
>> system.
>> 
>> So, is there any way you can think of, that I can use to create a Mavericks 
>> USB bootable installer drive for Mavericks, using my mountain lion machine? 
>> I could update this mountain lion machine and be out of trouble right away. 
>> However, I bumped into numerous Mavericks issues that don't occur on my 
>> current mountain lion installation. So, if possible, I'd like to keep using 
>> ML for a few more months, until we have Yosemite. I'm very interested to 
>> hear your solution if there is one.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Paul.
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Re: Need help! Very frustrated with mail on the Mac!

[Kevin Cussick]

Hi,   and does it now work? thanks for any help you maybe able to give.

On 17/08/2014 21:34, Jose Lomeli wrote:

Well I called Apple and I had to do a clean install!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 17, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Kevin Cussick 
 wrote:

thanks,   I have not tried this will try another day I have loads to do but 
good suggestion thanks.


On 17/08/2014 20:39, David Griffith wrote:
This was a well  known issue with the early releases of Mavericks but I
believed that this had been fixed by Apple in a subsequent update to the
OS. Certainly I am having absolutely no issues with G mail in my latest
version of Mavericks.
Could I ask both of you whether you have gone to the Apple Menu and
selected check for software updates to see if you are both running the
latest version of Mavericks available?

If you are running the latest version of Mavericks and this has still
not sorted the problem then for whatever reason the patch Apple issued
has not taken affect on your systems.
  If this is the case then the easiest way to resolve this may be a
re-install or a clean install.
The good news is that on the Mac this is a much easier and simpler
exercise to complete than on Windows but check for whether you have the
latest updates first.


David Griffith





On 17-08/2014 20:21, Kevin Cussick wrote:
I am having the same problem,   sorry no help to you but just letting
you your not the only one it is gmail at the moment but I have a
blueyonder account not set it up yet.  I have had no help thus far.

On 15/08/2014 19:46, Jose
wrote:

Hello; Listers, I need help! I called Apple because I am having
issues with Mail on my Mac! For some odd reason I am not getting
emails on my Mac! We tried everything and no go! It seems like my
emails are going to the Archive folder! I am getting email on my
iPhone it's just my Mac that is having issues! Please help!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone


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Re: reading the system log.

[Jason White]

Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> I try to read the system log just because i am intrested.
> However the  log seems unreadable in the system messages program.
> Can i review the log in a text editor.

Use the syslog command. See
https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man1/syslog.1.html

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Wuala

[Christopher Hallsworth]

Hello everybody
I am here to report that the Wuala file sharing and cloud storage system 
is also very accessible on the mac. I downloaded their desktop client 
for the mac and it is totally accessible which I wasn't expecting since 
it requires Java. For those who don't know Wuala works similar to 
Dropbox with extra features such as cloud collaboration. Go to

www.wuala.com
to find out more. Oh yes, I should add here their website also seems to 
be totally accessible.


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reading the system log.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I try to read the system log just because i am intrested.
However the  log seems unreadable in the system messages program.
Can i review the log in a text editor.
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Re: A script that would remove the preview pain?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Matthew,

Here's how to remove the preview pane.

If you're in classic view, navigate to the horizontal splitter between the 
headers and the message. Bring the mouse. Press down on the trackpad with one 
finger and stroke down the way on the trackpad with another finger.

Sometimes it can take several attempts before the preview pane is gone.

Interacting with the splitter and dragging it downwards just makes Mail go busy.

Cheers,

Anne

On 18 Aug 2014, at 02:51, matthew dyer  wrote:

> Evening all.
> I was just wondering about a script that sould hide the preview pain in mail. 
>  I had to reinstall mavrects and so I was wondering about it as someone 
> posted it some time ago, but could not find it in the archives.  Any ideas?  
> If not I can take care of it as soon as I get new batteries in my track pad.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Matthew
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Clean My Mac 2

[Christopher Hallsworth]

Hello everybody
This is to say I have tried and quickly bought the much talked about 
Clean My Mac 2 application for my Late 2011 Macbook Pro. All I can say 
is it is incredible! One feature that stands out for me is the ability 
to reset applications in the uninstaller section. So say you screwed up 
settings in an application? No problem! Use this feature to cleanly 
reset the application! I of course like the other features as well but 
this one stands out above the rest for me personally. I downloaded and 
bought this application from

www.macpaw.com
or google Clean My Mac.
One thing to note and have contacted the support team already regarding 
the below.
When placing an order be mindful of some unlabelled radio buttons. I 
ended up placing a bank transfer order because of this. I have requested 
them to cancel the mistakened order otherwise goodness knows what would 
happen after the due date. I managed to place a second order with PayPal 
which turned out to be the second of four unlabelled radio button. So 
please be mindful of this ok. Otherwise enjoy the application!


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