date:20141016

Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8

2014-10-16 Thread Shawn Krasniuk

Hi all. For the record, I saw in a Twitter post that Bono, the lead singer of 
U2, made a public apology for having Apple force download their album onto 
people's iDevices. With that out of the way, I've said it before and I'll say 
it again. With me the cool new features of iOS8 outweigh all the bugs. I love 
the fact that now that I bought an iPhone 5S a few weeks ago, I can enjoy 
having Alex on both my Mac and iPhone. He totally is better than the Nuance 
voices that the phone has already, and personally, I don't know about anyone 
else, but I got pretty bored of hearing them. Another cool feature I like is 
since I'm running the public beta of Yosemite, which is either coming this week 
according to an article I read or the 21st to the general public, is the 
ability to use my Mac as an iPhone if my iPhone isn't beside me. So yeah, iOS 8 
has some annoying little bugs, but it's something I can live with, and I'm very 
optimistic that some or all the bugs will be fixed in 8.1. But if people want 
to go back to Windows because they find that Apple is ruining their experiences 
on the Mac and switch to Android because of the same reason, No one's stopping 
you. But as for me I'm sticking with a company whose devices haven't failed me 
for almost 4 years. That's impressive compared to the number of PC's I've had. 
One was a Lenovo whose hard drive failed on 2 separate occasions, one wouldn't 
connect to the internet, and 2 I punched breaking the hard drive because they 
were pissing me off due to them being so slow. So yeah. The closest I'll get to 
using a PC again is if I use a VM on a computer that I can trust that will do 
the job. So if I'm a bit too loyal to Apple, that's why. And I know that we're 
the customers, and the customers are kings, but you're looking at one happy 
customer.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

 On Oct 15, 2014, at 9:50 PM, The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote:
 
   If the offensive music is not already downloaded to your device, go to 
 Settings  Music and toggle the Show All Music to off.
 
 From The Believer. . .
 . . . what if it were true?
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 10/15/2014 7:38 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 Need to get rid of an album from your phone?  Just focus on the album and 
 swipe one finger quickly up and double tap.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!
 
 On Oct 15, 2014, at 9:03 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ok, I couldn't have said that better myself, and there's a way to get rid 
 of that album, but can't remember how right off; you may have to google it, 
 sense I deleted the e-mail someone on another list sent me sense I was done 
 with it.  I love Apple's products, and wouldn't go back to what I used to 
 use (a windows smartphone running mobile speak, that was still only halfway 
 accessible,) for anything in the world, but think that just like Microsoft 
 was famous for doing, they're starting to release their updates way too 
 soon, and, so am really glad there's someone in agreement here.
 On Oct 15, 2014, at 9:06 PM, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I don't know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to 
 say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than 
 on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang 
 like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have 
 started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge 
 things too much into the let big brother figure out for you what you 
 should like and do. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was 
 camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, 
 and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don't 
 want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 
 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the 
 other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50's 
 midlife crisis moans aren't my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that 
 when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius 
 to tell me my future.
 
 Seriously folks, I'm not just going off on a rant, and for those of you 
 who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic 
 things:
 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple 
 makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production 
 or app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way 
 around.
 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively 
 create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction 
 of that experience. Personally, I don't trust Tim Cook that much in giving 
 us a good experience. That Johnny Ive

Re: iCloud changed address

2014-10-16 Thread Christopher Hallsworth


Sign out of iCloud first then sign back in. Settings, iCloud.


Sent from my laptop

On 16/10/2014 00:15, Agent086b wrote:

Hi all,
I have changed ISP recently so have had to change my iCloud credentials. I am 
unable to access iCloud from my iPhone to backup etc. How do I change the log o 
n info on the phone? I have everything working on the iMac and iPad but not the 
phone.
Thanks for any help.
Max.



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Re: A couple of settings questions

2014-10-16 Thread David Griffith



To change the settings on misspelt go to Voiceover Utility and then verbosity 
and then text and then you can there determine the behaviour of Voiceover when 
it encounters a misspelt word.
  In relation to expanding and collapsing with arrow keys have you remembered 
to turn Quick Nav of?
I have never seen the finder behaviour you describe so cannot  help with that 
one.

David Griffith
On 16 Oct 2014, at 03:33, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Now that my computer is back, there are a couple of minor annoyances that I 
 don't remember how to fix. I can't collapse/expand the contents of a folder 
 by using the left/right arrow keys.
 
 Secondly, I do  not want to type in my password whenever I want to do 
 something such as delete a file or rename one. I don't remember how to change 
 this behavior.
 
 Finally, Is there a way to stop VO from telling you whenever something is 
 misspelled as it is reading?
 
 All of these things seemed to be blissfully different before the computer had 
 to be restored. I would like to go back to that fine state of being if 
 possible.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kristeen Hughes
 khwi...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8

2014-10-16 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu

Well, I'm usually an early adopter for OS X releases, but as it happened I was 
aware in advance that Mavericks would be problematic to my workflow because my 
MacBook Pro came with it, and still uses it now.  Ironically, my holding off on 
my iMac didn't protect me from an eventual desire to Move forward and 
standardisation on Mavericks, because of the many Safari crashes and 
significant Time Machine improvements.  But the iBooks, Mail, and Xcode 
nonsenses proved to be a little too much, and I downgraded again, though not 
before enduring lots of frustration.  And sure enough, many of the Safari 
crashes have been remedied.  Once again I have demonstrated my fickleness to 
myself; it seems that little features are enough to push me a long way, to the 
exclusion of stability.  I miss the Time Machine improvements, but not enough 
to miss out on OS solidarity, as provided by Mountain Lion.

Yosemite is what Mavericks should have been.  It can't hurt now to say that 
iBooks can now actually be used, rather than clumsily manipulated.  But it 
still stores data in a container, which is infuriating if you have many PDFs or 
ePub bought from other places that you want to back up.  Perhaps the answer is 
that my MacBook will be a Mac, while the iMac will be both Mac and Windows and 
just never use iTunes?  I don't know.  But a lot of what OS X does better can 
be virtualised in Linux, so unless I need an always-on Mac for backups or 
caching server duties, I'm reluctantly forced to admit that I've just not been 
very happy with Apple's recent decisions.  As you noted, many of the 
immediately obvious problems with Mavericks have workarounds and are minor, but 
they do strike me as a rather worrying trend at Apple of getting it only 
half-right, with the implication that they only get it right every other year.  
And of course Apple's drive for simplification has casualties, some near and 
dear to me, like the aforementioned loss of plain text viewing in Mail.  I 
guess it ultimately comes down to whether or not I endure it for much longer, 
or drop it, and we'll soon know which. :)

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Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8

2014-10-16 Thread Jessica Moss

The U1 album doesn't have that option, we've all tried that and it's 
unavailable; there's something you have to do in Itunes, think you have to do 
it via the app store, but can't remember if you have to do it via your phone, 
or the computer, sense it doesn't show up in your itunes library.
On Oct 15, 2014, at 10:38 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:

 Need to get rid of an album from your phone?  Just focus on the album and 
 swipe one finger quickly up and double tap.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!
 
 On Oct 15, 2014, at 9:03 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ok, I couldn't have said that better myself, and there's a way to get rid of 
 that album, but can't remember how right off; you may have to google it, 
 sense I deleted the e-mail someone on another list sent me sense I was done 
 with it.  I love Apple's products, and wouldn't go back to what I used to 
 use (a windows smartphone running mobile speak, that was still only halfway 
 accessible,) for anything in the world, but think that just like Microsoft 
 was famous for doing, they're starting to release their updates way too 
 soon, and, so am really glad there's someone in agreement here.
 On Oct 15, 2014, at 9:06 PM, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I don't know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to 
 say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than 
 on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like 
 slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started 
 looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too 
 much into the let big brother figure out for you what you should like and 
 do. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some 
 mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 
 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don't want some band 
 pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars 
 for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. 
 Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50's midlife crisis moans 
 aren't my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an 
 apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future.
 
 Seriously folks, I'm not just going off on a rant, and for those of you who 
 want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic 
 things:
 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple 
 makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production or 
 app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way 
 around.
 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively 
 create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction 
 of that experience. Personally, I don't trust Tim Cook that much in giving 
 us a good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous marketing guy 
 with design skills I cannot trust as head of human interface, a software 
 division, coming from someone who used to make toilet seats. The only one 
 or ones I can trust in this are frederici and some of the younger engineers 
 presented at the last apple showcase. but they don't have enough say yet, 
 so we're stuck with all that flash graphical transition animation style 
 crap instead of truly clean, efficient and snappy interfaces.
 3-There are other choices out there, but I have no idea what. Sometimes I 
 wish I was sighted again so that I can really be part of the process of 
 creating real interfaces for everyone. It's frustrating to know that most 
 companies follow what is standard and forget that standards are meant to be 
 broken and updated. Not broken at the cost of the buyer, no. If it's 
 broken, it should be free, such as what google offers. Buying a 3000 dollar 
 piece of hardware to get clunky experiences and moments where you want to 
 throw that damn thing out the window and never touch it again is clearly 
 not what I call good experience on a computer. More and more of my friends, 
 mac users, both sighted and visually impaired, agree with me that apple is 
 starting to rot in terms of presenting it's image. It's not an underdog but 
 a huge bulky oil tanker that can now only manuver slowly with a battalion 
 of lawyers behind murmuring at the chief's ears, the latter being probably 
 more complacent than should be, thus giving us this weird awkward show each 
 year now with a barely straight talking TIm Cook who sounds like he never 
 had a girl friend chill time or something seems amiss in him. Some soul? 
 Something. Whatever the case, I don't really dig the style apple is 
 portraying. It's becoming a disney world presentation with

this is the mac email list right? for blind users?

2014-10-16 Thread Jen Wilgus

I am asking, cause I am not receiving any email pertaining to this email
list? 

Thanks for any help in advance. 

 

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Re: this is the mac email list right? for blind users?

2014-10-16 Thread Colin Matthews

Hi Jen!
Well your message has come through OK I hope you get to see this post!
Colin

On 16 Oct 2014, at 13:33, Jen Wilgus jenbe...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am asking, cause I am not receiving any email pertaining to this email list?
 Thanks for any help in advance.
  
 
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starting to get irritated by IOS 8

2014-10-16 Thread Randy Drawdy

There are two linux distributions specifically designed for the visually 
impaired:

Vinux
http://vinuxproject.org

Sonar GNU/Linux
http://sonargnulinux.com

Accessible Linux Links

Start here: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Accessibility-HOWTO/introduction.html

BLinux forum for eyes free Linux : http://leb.net/blinux/

Sonar GNU/Linux

An Accessible Operating System Focused On Assistive Technology

https://github.com/sonar-gnu-linux/resources

Ubuntu Accessibility Docs
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility

Debian Accessibility Docs
https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-accessibility/

Vinux
http://wiki.vinuxproject.org/

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Re: A couple of settings questions

2014-10-16 Thread Eugenia Firth

Hi there 

It sounds like you were in column mode before. While you are in Finder, try 
pressing command 3 and VO should say column mode. This can also be done in the 
View Menu. I love column mode. VO backslashwill expand a folder in List View 
mode, and command down arrow will open a folder in List View. I don't like that 
method as well. 

Perhaps someone else can answer the question about putting in the password 
every time. Mine doesn't do that, and I can't remember how to fix it either. I 
think you have to be administrator of your own computer, but I can't remember 
how either. I just took a look in System Preferences; it may be there 
somewhere, but I couldn't find it. 

I hope part of what I could answer helps. 

Gigi 

On Oct 15, 2014, at 9:33 PM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Now that my computer is back, there are a couple of minor annoyances that I 
 don't remember how to fix. I can't collapse/expand the contents of a folder 
 by using the left/right arrow keys.
 
 Secondly, I do  not want to type in my password whenever I want to do 
 something such as delete a file or rename one. I don't remember how to change 
 this behavior.
 
 Finally, Is there a way to stop VO from telling you whenever something is 
 misspelled as it is reading?
 
 All of these things seemed to be blissfully different before the computer had 
 to be restored. I would like to go back to that fine state of being if 
 possible.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kristeen Hughes
 khwi...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8

2014-10-16 Thread The Believer

Google will find several solutions for you depending on different
factors.

From The Believer. . .
. . . what if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/16/2014 5:19 AM, Jessica Moss wrote:

The U1 album doesn't have that option, we've all tried that and it's
unavailable; there's something you have to do in Itunes, think you have to do
it via the app store, but can't remember if you have to do it via your phone,
or the computer, sense it doesn't show up in your itunes library.
On Oct 15, 2014, at 10:38 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:

Need to get rid of an album from your phone? Just focus on the album and swipe
one finger quickly up and double tap.

Sincerely,
the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!

On Oct 15, 2014, at 9:03 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:

Ok, I couldn't have said that better myself, and there's a way to get rid of
that album, but can't remember how right off; you may have to google it, sense
I deleted the e-mail someone on another list sent me sense I was done with it.
I love Apple's products, and wouldn't go back to what I used to use (a windows
smartphone running mobile speak, that was still only halfway accessible,) for
anything in the world, but think that just like Microsoft was famous for doing,
they're starting to release their updates way too soon, and, so am really glad
there's someone in agreement here.
On Oct 15, 2014, at 9:06 PM, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,

I don't know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the
experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut
off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I
have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying
to nudge things too much into the let big brother figure out for you what you
should like and do. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with
some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept
popping up like annoying ads. Really don't want some band pushing their crap on my life
experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for
me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50's
midlife crisis moans aren't my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into
an apple store and wait for a genius

to tell me my future.

Seriously folks, I'm not just going off on a rant, and for those of you who
want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic things:
1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple makes
money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production or app
developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way around.
2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively create
experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction of that
experience. Personally, I don't trust Tim Cook that much in giving us a good
experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous marketing guy with design
skills I cannot trust as head of human interface, a software division, coming
from someone who used to make toilet seats. The only one or ones I can trust in
this are frederici and some of the younger engineers presented at the last
apple showcase. but they don't have enough say yet, so we're stuck with all
that flash graphical transition animation style crap instead of truly clean,
efficient and snappy interfaces.
3-There are other choices out there, but I have no idea what. Sometimes I wish I was sighted again so that I can really be part of the process of creating real interfaces for everyone. It's frustrating to know that most companies follow what is standard and forget that standards are meant to be broken and updated. Not broken at the cost of the buyer, no. If it's broken, it should be free, such as what google offers. Buying a 3000 dollar piece of hardware to get clunky experiences and moments where you want to throw that damn thing out the window and never touch it again is clearly not what I call good experience on a computer. More and more of my friends, mac users, both sighted and visually impaired, agree with me that apple is starting to rot in terms of presenting it's image. It's not an underdog but a huge bulky oil tanker that can now only manuver slowly with a battalion of lawyers behind murmuring at the chief's ears, the latter being probably more complacent than should

be, thus giving us this weird awkward show each year now with a barely straight
talking TIm Cook who sounds like he never had a girl friend chill time or
something seems amiss in him. Some soul? Something.

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