Re: Two quick Pages questions

[Nicholas Parsons]

Try pressing command-a to select all and then VO-j to jump to the format 
inspector. From the styles tab of the format inspector you can adjust the font, 
style, size, colour and line spacing of the text. This might not work so well 
if you have different paragraph styles in your document (e.g. for different 
level headings and body etcetera).

Also, in future, remember when pasting text you can use the paste and match 
style command to ensure the text you paste adopts the style in use at the 
insertion point.

> On 16 Jan 2015, at 1:02 pm, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Hey I am working on a document in Mavericks in Pages and I have done some 
> copy and pasting in it, and want to make sure the font is all the same for 
> the entire document. I thought the easiest way to do this was a select all 
> and just go to the font menu, but for some reason I am missing it. Also some 
> of the document came out double spaced instead of single spaced. I remember 
> seeing a way to synchronize the spacing of an entire document but cannot seem 
> to find it now. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks,
> 
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Re: iMac versus MBA?

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi. I actually had to get rid of all my vocalizer voices because Voiceover was 
slow even when changing to something else. As a suggestion to people who still 
want or need multilingual voices, I recommend a few voices from Acapela and a 
few from Cereproc. The web address to check out the Cereproc voices is 
cereproc.com and of course to check out the Acapela voices go to 
assistiveware.com
I've tested all these brands of voices under Yosemite and they have no lag at 
all. One thing I will warn you about is that Cereproc's voices are around 40 to 
$45 so be prepared.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

> On Jan 15, 2015, at 5:07 PM, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I agree, 8 GB should be fine. That’s twice the amount that I have in here, 
> because I’ve never upgraded anything internally on here, and it works fine. 
> Just to see what would happen, I switched to one of the Vocalizer voices, and 
> I experienced choppy speech, and it did slow things down quite a bit. But, 
> once I switched to something else other than one of those voices, then 
> everything sped up, as the CPU was freed up. Sitting here now, using Alex as 
> an example, I have 4 programs up including Mail, and I have 88.9% of the CPU 
> free, and none of the swopp file is being used. Nothing using Flash is up 
> either. Adobe Flash Player is also a CPU hog, so anything running that is 
> using it, could cause the slow down.
> Just going through things I have seen slow down my Macs here.
> I hope this helps,
> Jeffrey
>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 5:46 PM, Scott Erichsen  wrote:
>> 
>> 8gb memory should honestly be fine for an iMac.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Friday, 16 January 2015 9:36 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iMac versus MBA?
>> 
>> Yeah, but I’m not going to give that up. lol.  I think I’ll try a repair 
>> permissions.  I also found that I do only have 8 GB of ram, I may see if 
>> they’ll upgrade me to 16.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 10:52 AM, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> another thing it could also be is using the Vocalizer voices (Samantha, 
>>> Jill, Tom, etc.) If using these voices, it will cause a slow down 
>>> potentially, although not always. This is because of the increased CPU 
>>> usage and maybe RAM usage? Not sure, of VoiceOver and it’s processes. Found 
>>> this out by looking in Activity Monitor one day. Also, if you go into 
>>> VoiceOver Utility, it may be trying to download the newer version of the 
>>> Alex Voice.
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Jeffrey
 On Jan 15, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Drat!  Filevault is turned off, I was really hoping that was the problem.
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On Jan 15, 2015, at 1:11 AM, Jeffrey Shockley  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I completely agree here. I’ve had this iMac here for a while now, and 
> once everything loads up, it’s pretty fast, and it’s one from a couple 
> years ago that only has 4 GB of RAM. One thing that could possibly be 
> going on is Spotlight could be indexing everything in the background 
> still for the first time, depending on how much stuff is on the drive.
> Also, making sure all updates to OS X and all apps are up-to-date will 
> also help.
> Another thing that may also help, is running a Repair Permissions scan on 
> the drive using Disc Utility.
> Also, if Filevolt is turned on, which it is by default now after a new 
> installation of Yosemite, then that could be the cause of the slowness 
> and, after turning Filevolt off, it will work much better. I’ve seen 
> stuff like this discussing Filevolt and system slowness at first before.
> You can turn this off by going into the Security and Privacy pane of 
> System Preferences, and going to the Filevolt tab and VO spacing on it. 
> Once this loads, if you VO right, it will tell you whether Filevolt is 
> on, and let you turn it off. It will say it is dimmed until you VO space 
> on where it says “Click here to make changes.” Then, you put inn your 
> password, and you can make the change.
> Hope this helps,
> Jeffrey
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2015, at 11:49 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> What are the specs on the iMac?  I’m guessing that it probably has a 
>> spinning HD as opposed to the MBA’s Flash storage.  Flash storage has 
>> considerably faster access than any spinning HD, especially if the 
>> spinning HD is only 5400 RPM’s.  Depending on the model of the iMac, the 
>> default RAM could be around 8 GB which should not exhibit choppy speech 
>> like you’ve mentioned.  I use VO on some older iMacs when setting these 
>> machines up at my work, and they are slower at starting, slower at 
>> logging in but once everything in the background ha

Coast to Coast am. app

[Lorie McCloud]

have any of you had exp;eeriness with this app? this is the second version of 
it that you can’t log in with. I used 2 versions ago until it wouldn’t work 
with the iOS any more. even though I have an active account, I can’t log in. 
when I wrote to them about this here’s the response I got:

Jeffery R. replied:
We do not provide support for Voiceover. Your account is active and you should 
be able to login with it.

If Voiceover is preventing you from logging in, then you will need to contact 
Voiceover support to learn more about their compatibility with iPhones and 
third party cookie placement.

Jeff R. 
Premiere Radio Networks Customer Care

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RE: My Apple iPad mini with two waterproof Lifeproof cases for sale...

[george b]

How much is it and what info on the ipad mini please.
thanks

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On Behalf Of Cameron Strife
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 17:24
To: macvisionaries
Subject: My Apple iPad mini with two waterproof Lifeproof cases for sale...

Hi all. The iPad mini with charger and two lifeproof waterproof cases
is still for sale... I'm writing to the list again because somebody e
mailed me and for some reason, this message has totally disappeared
from my g mail account.

So, to the guy who was interested;Keith or Kevin I think your name
was, please drop me an e mail off list.

Also, if anyone else is interested, feel free to get in touch...

Thanks,

Cameron.

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Two quick Pages questions

[Brian Fischler]

Hey I am working on a document in Mavericks in Pages and I have done some copy 
and pasting in it, and want to make sure the font is all the same for the 
entire document. I thought the easiest way to do this was a select all and just 
go to the font menu, but for some reason I am missing it. Also some of the 
document came out double spaced instead of single spaced. I remember seeing a 
way to synchronize the spacing of an entire document but cannot seem to find it 
now. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks,

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Re: some calendar issues on osx 10.10.1 and iOS 8.1.2

[Nicholas Parsons]

I haven’t experienced a loss of entries, but VoiceOver fails to announce some 
entries for me on certain days. I’m not sure what it is about these entries, 
but VoiceOver announces some and not others. The way I can tell that they are 
not lost but that VoiceOver is simply failing to announce them is (1) by using 
arrow keys instead of VO keys to navigate through the calendar events; (2) 
using views other than month view (month view is my preferred view); and (3) 
asking sighted help to verify.

> On 6 Jan 2015, at 8:40 pm, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> has someone experienced a loss of entries in calendar since 10.10.1? I’m 
> quite sure I have and I experienced deleted entries comming back after a 
> while as well. I’m loosing trust in Calendar because I use it to arrange my 
> business apointments and it’s hard to loose entries. But maybe it’s just my 
> own issue in doing something wrong. I use Calendar since 5 years and expect 
> my self as an experienced user. So waht about you? Has anyone similar issues 
> in Calendar?
> 
> All the best
> Jürgen
> 
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Re: Tying contacts to calendar events?

[Alex Hall]

Thanks guys, I never knew that would work. Ideally, I'd like to suppress these 
invites, but then again, they might be a good way of auto-confirming 
appointments with clients. I'll have to try this next time I set one up.
> On Jan 15, 2015, at 8:29 PM, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Alex,
> They don’t need to be iCloud users to receive an invitation. They just need 
> an email address, or perhaps even just a mobile number. It works with 
> Microsoft Exchange calendars, Outlook, Google Calendar etcetera. But really 
> the purpose of adding them as an invitee is not so the event appears in their 
> calendar, but just for your own reference so you have an easy way of 
> accessing their contact details, calling and SMS-ing them etcetera.
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Re: Tying contacts to calendar events?

[Nicholas Parsons]

Hi Alex,
They don’t need to be iCloud users to receive an invitation. They just need an 
email address, or perhaps even just a mobile number. It works with Microsoft 
Exchange calendars, Outlook, Google Calendar etcetera. But really the purpose 
of adding them as an invitee is not so the event appears in their calendar, but 
just for your own reference so you have an easy way of accessing their contact 
details, calling and SMS-ing them etcetera.

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My Apple iPad mini with two waterproof Lifeproof cases for sale...

[Cameron Strife]

Hi all. The iPad mini with charger and two lifeproof waterproof cases
is still for sale... I'm writing to the list again because somebody e
mailed me and for some reason, this message has totally disappeared
from my g mail account.

So, to the guy who was interested;Keith or Kevin I think your name
was, please drop me an e mail off list.

Also, if anyone else is interested, feel free to get in touch...

Thanks,

Cameron.

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Re: clean my mac questions

[David Griffith]

The unlabelled buttons are not an issue for me as basically I run the 
app almost entirely through the menu bar.

This procedure replaces the unlabelled button functions.

1. Go to menu. Press A for actions.
2. Cursor down once for Scan and press return.
2. Go to menu again and A again for Actions. Now cursor down once to 
clean and press return.

3. Enter your password when prompted by the app.
4. The app will play a tone when cleaning is completed.
5. Normally I then close the app. It is all very fast and easy and most 
of the time this is all I do.


Other more specialized aspect of the app are fully accessible through a 
system of tables for actions you want to take.


Once you have selected an Action you wish to take then again go to the 
menu bar, press A for action and then cursor down once to execute the 
action which you have selected in the table.


David Griffith

DOn 15/01/2015 18:20, Faisal ali wrote:

Hi all,
I just downloaded clean my mac and have couple of questions. when I first load 
the app, all the buttons such as automatic clean, manually clea are all dimmed. 
Is there something I do to allow it to clean my machine? I tried navigating 
around but there are a lot of unlabelled buttons as well so nothing is really 
popping out at me.
Also, I saw that it also offers a full version. What’s the difference between 
the full version and the free version? this wasn’t made clear on their website.
Thanks



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Re: Sheet layout area in numbers

[Phil Halton]

Why those little apple engineering scamps!
Sort of like, "whatever gets used the most gets listed first?” a ranking 
algorithm? Hmmm… I’ll have to watch for that. 

at 9:47 AM, george b  wrote:
> 
> Phill,
> 
> I think they change on which the last sheet you were working in goes to the 
> first position in that order.  Check it and see
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Phil Halton
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 17:32
> To: Macvisionaries
> Subject: Re: Sheet layout area in numbers
> 
> I think there is a basic misunderstanding here. I am referring to the order 
> in which the table names appear in the sheet layout area. That is, when I 
> interact with the slo, and then VO right arrow through the table names 
> contained therein, their order changes, not the names themselves.
> for example, in one sheet I have four tables named 
> expenses, cash, income, reserve e.
> They appear in that order when I interact and then VO arrow right.
> then after doing some work in a table, the order may change to something 
> other than that order, say,
> cash, income, expenses, reserve
> or some other random ordering.
> I think that numbers is automatically shifting this ordering around to 
> reflect some visual arrangement of the tables on the canvas that is changing 
> due to changes made to the tables themselves, either their size or something.
> 
> Again, I think it has to do with numbers fitting these four tables on the 
> canvas and shifting the ordering of the table names in the SLO to reflect 
> that physical re-arrangement.
> 
> Just a guess though. I hope I’ve made the problem clear.
> . 
> It’s just a nuisance, no data is lost or anything like that. It’s just that 
> you get used to a certain arrangement and then it is changed for no apparent 
> reason requiring different keystrokes to do your work.
>  , 
>> On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:08 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Phil,
>> 
>> It doesn’t affect the table names. Table names are assigned based on when 
>> they are created and are, in any event, changeable. The table names are not 
>> based on or dependant upon their position in the sheet layout area. You can 
>> have table 3 above table 1, etcetera.
>> 
>>> On 15 Jan 2015, at 2:56 am, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> thanks Nick,
>>> I think I’ll just live with it. Evidently Numbers is auto arranging tables 
>>> on the canvas as it thinks it is needed. I don’t know how that would impact 
>>> the order of the table names  in the sheet layout area though. Not 
>>> important enough for me to bother with now.
>>> 
 On Jan 14, 2015, at 2:52 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
  wrote:
 
 Hi Phil,
 
 Not sure why this happens, but I suspect it has something to do with 
 changing the size of the table through altering the width of the columns, 
 numbers of rows etc. You can change the order of the tables by using the 
 “Arrange” tab of the format inspector. In particular, adjust the X and Y 
 position coordinates of the table and you will change where it appears on 
 the canvas. Take note of the size width and height values for the tables 
 to work out how best to layout your tables to ensure they don’t overlap. 
 Overlapping tables makes very little difference to VoiceOver users, except 
 perhaps when it comes to drag and drop columns or rows, but it of course 
 makes a big difference if you are ever going to show the spreadsheet to 
 sighted people.
 
> On 13 Jan 2015, at 5:53 am, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> I am encountering a situation in numbers (latest version) where the left 
> to right ordering of the tables in a given sheet are being altered by 
> numbers. It usually happens when I do some extensive work in a table or 
> when I create a new table. Also, this left to right ordering of the 
> tables in a sheet layout area is not able to be changed through drag n 
> drop, or other methods as far as I can tell.
> 
> 
> an example, with three tables in a sheet, t1, t2, t3, listed from left to 
> right in that order, then suddenly, without any apparent reason, the left 
> to right ordering of the sheet is t3, t1, t2, or some combination thereof.
> 
> any experience with this problem? It isn’t a show-stopper, but you get 
> used to having your tables listed in a certain order in the sheet layout 
> area and suddenly the order is changed on you which tends to interrupt 
> work flow.
> 
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Re: iMac versus MBA?

[Donna Goodin]

Yeah, I’d just take it to the Apple store.  Since it’s the company’s Mac, I’d 
rather that Apple make any changes like that.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Jan 15, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> A solid-state drive isn’t particularly expensive, just a bit of work to 
> install into the iMac.  Not impossible, just needs someone that knows what 
> they’re doing.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 16:11, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, thanks for that!  It is a skinny iMac, and I didn't realize that the 
>> memory in those wasn't upgradable.  I'll think about upgrading to the 
>> virtual drive, probably will depend on what it costs.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 5:07 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Is it a skinny iMac?  If so, the memory can’t be upgraded.  It would 
>>> probably be better to have them switch out the spinning HD for an SSD 
>>> instead.  I think you’d see a good performance improvement.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Jan 15, 2015, at 15:36, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Yeah, but I’m not going to give that up. lol.  I think I’ll try a repair 
 permissions.  I also found that I do only have 8 GB of ram, I may see if 
 they’ll upgrade me to 16.
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On Jan 15, 2015, at 10:52 AM, Jeffrey Shockley  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> another thing it could also be is using the Vocalizer voices (Samantha, 
> Jill, Tom, etc.) If using these voices, it will cause a slow down 
> potentially, although not always. This is because of the increased CPU 
> usage and maybe RAM usage? Not sure, of VoiceOver and it’s processes. 
> Found this out by looking in Activity Monitor one day. Also, if you go 
> into VoiceOver Utility, it may be trying to download the newer version of 
> the Alex Voice.
> Hope this helps,
> Jeffrey
>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Drat!  Filevault is turned off, I was really hoping that was the problem.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 1:11 AM, Jeffrey Shockley  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I completely agree here. I’ve had this iMac here for a while now, and 
>>> once everything loads up, it’s pretty fast, and it’s one from a couple 
>>> years ago that only has 4 GB of RAM. One thing that could possibly be 
>>> going on is Spotlight could be indexing everything in the background 
>>> still for the first time, depending on how much stuff is on the drive.
>>> Also, making sure all updates to OS X and all apps are up-to-date will 
>>> also help.
>>> Another thing that may also help, is running a Repair Permissions scan 
>>> on the drive using Disc Utility.
>>> Also, if Filevolt is turned on, which it is by default now after a new 
>>> installation of Yosemite, then that could be the cause of the slowness 
>>> and, after turning Filevolt off, it will work much better. I’ve seen 
>>> stuff like this discussing Filevolt and system slowness at first before.
>>> You can turn this off by going into the Security and Privacy pane of 
>>> System Preferences, and going to the Filevolt tab and VO spacing on it. 
>>> Once this loads, if you VO right, it will tell you whether Filevolt is 
>>> on, and let you turn it off. It will say it is dimmed until you VO 
>>> space on where it says “Click here to make changes.” Then, you put inn 
>>> your password, and you can make the change.
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Jeffrey
>>> 
 On Jan 14, 2015, at 11:49 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 What are the specs on the iMac?  I’m guessing that it probably has a 
 spinning HD as opposed to the MBA’s Flash storage.  Flash storage has 
 considerably faster access than any spinning HD, especially if the 
 spinning HD is only 5400 RPM’s.  Depending on the model of the iMac, 
 the default RAM could be around 8 GB which should not exhibit choppy 
 speech like you’ve mentioned.  I use VO on some older iMacs when 
 setting these machines up at my work, and they are slower at starting, 
 slower at logging in but once everything in the background has 
 finished doing its thing, VO works normally.  Make sure that you have 
 the checkbox unchecked to re-open windows/applications when logging 
 back in.  This box is visible when you go to logout.  Also, make sure 
 you don’t have any apps set to automatically open as this can slow 
 down the startup process as well.  There are enough processes going on 
 in the background as it is during startup and login that make it feel 
 slow that adding extra things simply prolong the wait.
 
 HTH.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
>

Re: Keeping a journal, both on Mac and iPhone?

[Christina C.]

sign up for their emails to find out about their sales and specials. I got mine 
at half off. Where did they get bad reviews, the mac store or applevis?

Christina

> On Jan 15, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
> 
> Mac journal got bad reviews. It is pricy!
>> On Jan 12, 2015, at 8:17 PM, Christina C.  wrote:
>> 
>> Deedra,
>> 
>> Thanks for this info. I have MacJournal. I really wanted to Journal but I 
>> have not taken the time to learn it yet. One thing holding me back is that I 
>> want to know how well it sync’s with the iPhone version and if the iPhone 
>> version is accessible. I just have not had time to experiment. Do you have 
>> any experience with the iOS version and syncing via the macJournal app or 
>> dropbox?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Christina
>>> On Jan 12, 2015, at 6:18 PM, deedra waters  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I haven’t been following this thread so please excuse me for repeating 
>>> something someone else has said.
>>> 
>>> I bought macjournal because i have to keep several different journals some 
>>> for a class, personal, and some other things. I found it definitly useable 
>>> with no real problems. I have one journal that’s locked and it took me a 
>>> few minutes to figure out how that part worked, but once you play with it a 
>>> bit it’s perfectly fine. I thought i’d jump in here because macjournal is 
>>> slightly pricey but again it’s so worth it.:)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> deedra waters
>>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 12, 2015, at 4:25 AM, Mike Busboom  wrote:
 
 Hello Christina and Sarai,
 
 Thank you both for your input.
 
 I can forego nested journals, so it looks like probably the best approach 
 will be to try MacJournal.  
 
 Using notes for journaling has been a real pain, hence my desire to find 
 something better.
 
 Here in Europe, it is easy (or so I have been told) to get refunds on 
 things purchased in the app store.  So if MacJournal for the iPhone 
 doesn’t work on the iPhone, from an accessibility perspective, I can 
 always get my money back.
 
 My very best,
 
 Mike
 
 On 12,Jan,2015, at 01:49, Christina C.  wrote:
 
> The last time I checked DayOne was not accessible for iPhone. I contacted 
> the developers and they told me they had made VO improvements for the Mac 
> version but not for iOS. It was easy for me to make a journal entry with 
> day one on the iPhone but that was about it. the rest of the actions were 
> very difficult or impossible. You’d have to go to the app store and check 
> out their latest updates over the last few months to see if they mention 
> VO improvements but I personally have not seen any mentioned. I have not 
> read every update log for every update of day One for iOS but I’ve read a 
> few and not seen any mention of VO enhancements. Also, as of a few months 
> ago, you can only create one journal but you can tag your journal entries.
> 
> Christina
>> On Jan 11, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Day One is supposed to be a good app for iPhone and Mac. I’ve neer used 
>> it before, but it is highly rated.
>>> On Jan 11, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Christina C.  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Check out macJournal. I cannot tell you how accessible the mac version 
>>> is because I only have a little bit of experience with it. The little 
>>> bit of experience is so far promising. I have not used the iPhone 
>>> version yet. It’s really more about a lack of time to learn to set 
>>> everything up in order to sync across devices. I think you can choose 
>>> to sync via drop box or through macJournal but I do not know how to do 
>>> either and do not know if the iPhone version is accessible.  I believe 
>>> the macJournal for Mac has a downloadable trial for free on the website 
>>> not through the app store.
>>> 
>>> Also, I know you can create multiple Journals but I don’t know about 
>>> nested journals. I don’t know what that is and how in the world you are 
>>> doing that with notes. :)
>>> 
>>> Good Luck,
>>> Christina
 On Jan 11, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Mike Busboom  wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 For the past two years or so, I have been keeping sort of a journal on 
 my Mac, using the Notes app.  The reason this works for me is that I 
 can also add notes from my iPhone, and they will appear on my Mac.  I 
 have amassed thousands of notes and don’t know how I will ever import 
 all of them into a journal.
 
 Is there an accessible app, both for the Mac and the iPhone that would 
 allow me to keep my journals?  I keep three different kinds of 
 journals, so perhaps a program allowing for “nested journals” would be 
 the ticket.
 
 The program needs to work se

Re: iMac versus MBA?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

A solid-state drive isn’t particularly expensive, just a bit of work to install 
into the iMac.  Not impossible, just needs someone that knows what they’re 
doing.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jan 15, 2015, at 16:11, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Oh, thanks for that!  It is a skinny iMac, and I didn't realize that the 
> memory in those wasn't upgradable.  I'll think about upgrading to the virtual 
> drive, probably will depend on what it costs.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 5:07 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Is it a skinny iMac?  If so, the memory can’t be upgraded.  It would 
>> probably be better to have them switch out the spinning HD for an SSD 
>> instead.  I think you’d see a good performance improvement.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 15:36, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah, but I’m not going to give that up. lol.  I think I’ll try a repair 
>>> permissions.  I also found that I do only have 8 GB of ram, I may see if 
>>> they’ll upgrade me to 16.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On Jan 15, 2015, at 10:52 AM, Jeffrey Shockley  
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 another thing it could also be is using the Vocalizer voices (Samantha, 
 Jill, Tom, etc.) If using these voices, it will cause a slow down 
 potentially, although not always. This is because of the increased CPU 
 usage and maybe RAM usage? Not sure, of VoiceOver and it’s processes. 
 Found this out by looking in Activity Monitor one day. Also, if you go 
 into VoiceOver Utility, it may be trying to download the newer version of 
 the Alex Voice.
 Hope this helps,
 Jeffrey
> On Jan 15, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Drat!  Filevault is turned off, I was really hoping that was the problem.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 1:11 AM, Jeffrey Shockley  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I completely agree here. I’ve had this iMac here for a while now, and 
>> once everything loads up, it’s pretty fast, and it’s one from a couple 
>> years ago that only has 4 GB of RAM. One thing that could possibly be 
>> going on is Spotlight could be indexing everything in the background 
>> still for the first time, depending on how much stuff is on the drive.
>> Also, making sure all updates to OS X and all apps are up-to-date will 
>> also help.
>> Another thing that may also help, is running a Repair Permissions scan 
>> on the drive using Disc Utility.
>> Also, if Filevolt is turned on, which it is by default now after a new 
>> installation of Yosemite, then that could be the cause of the slowness 
>> and, after turning Filevolt off, it will work much better. I’ve seen 
>> stuff like this discussing Filevolt and system slowness at first before.
>> You can turn this off by going into the Security and Privacy pane of 
>> System Preferences, and going to the Filevolt tab and VO spacing on it. 
>> Once this loads, if you VO right, it will tell you whether Filevolt is 
>> on, and let you turn it off. It will say it is dimmed until you VO space 
>> on where it says “Click here to make changes.” Then, you put inn your 
>> password, and you can make the change.
>> Hope this helps,
>> Jeffrey
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2015, at 11:49 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> What are the specs on the iMac?  I’m guessing that it probably has a 
>>> spinning HD as opposed to the MBA’s Flash storage.  Flash storage has 
>>> considerably faster access than any spinning HD, especially if the 
>>> spinning HD is only 5400 RPM’s.  Depending on the model of the iMac, 
>>> the default RAM could be around 8 GB which should not exhibit choppy 
>>> speech like you’ve mentioned.  I use VO on some older iMacs when 
>>> setting these machines up at my work, and they are slower at starting, 
>>> slower at logging in but once everything in the background has finished 
>>> doing its thing, VO works normally.  Make sure that you have the 
>>> checkbox unchecked to re-open windows/applications when logging back 
>>> in.  This box is visible when you go to logout.  Also, make sure you 
>>> don’t have any apps set to automatically open as this can slow down the 
>>> startup process as well.  There are enough processes going on in the 
>>> background as it is during startup and login that make it feel slow 
>>> that adding extra things simply prolong the wait.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Jan 14, 2015, at 20:29, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 As some of you may remember, my employer has purchased an iMac for me. 
  I am sorry to say it, but I've been incredibly disappointed in the 
 iMac.  I had

Re: iMac versus MBA?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Using Alex on iMacs as old as 2008 with Mavericks installed and as little as 2 
GB of RAM does not yield choppy speech for me.  The ones with 2GB of RAM are 
not particularly quick at loading, but once they are up, even with multiple 
apps open, VO performs fine.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jan 15, 2015, at 16:07, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is it a skinny iMac?  If so, the memory can’t be upgraded.  It would probably 
> be better to have them switch out the spinning HD for an SSD instead.  I 
> think you’d see a good performance improvement.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 15:36, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, but I’m not going to give that up. lol.  I think I’ll try a repair 
>> permissions.  I also found that I do only have 8 GB of ram, I may see if 
>> they’ll upgrade me to 16.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 10:52 AM, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> another thing it could also be is using the Vocalizer voices (Samantha, 
>>> Jill, Tom, etc.) If using these voices, it will cause a slow down 
>>> potentially, although not always. This is because of the increased CPU 
>>> usage and maybe RAM usage? Not sure, of VoiceOver and it’s processes. Found 
>>> this out by looking in Activity Monitor one day. Also, if you go into 
>>> VoiceOver Utility, it may be trying to download the newer version of the 
>>> Alex Voice.
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Jeffrey
 On Jan 15, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Drat!  Filevault is turned off, I was really hoping that was the problem.
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On Jan 15, 2015, at 1:11 AM, Jeffrey Shockley  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I completely agree here. I’ve had this iMac here for a while now, and 
> once everything loads up, it’s pretty fast, and it’s one from a couple 
> years ago that only has 4 GB of RAM. One thing that could possibly be 
> going on is Spotlight could be indexing everything in the background 
> still for the first time, depending on how much stuff is on the drive.
> Also, making sure all updates to OS X and all apps are up-to-date will 
> also help.
> Another thing that may also help, is running a Repair Permissions scan on 
> the drive using Disc Utility.
> Also, if Filevolt is turned on, which it is by default now after a new 
> installation of Yosemite, then that could be the cause of the slowness 
> and, after turning Filevolt off, it will work much better. I’ve seen 
> stuff like this discussing Filevolt and system slowness at first before.
> You can turn this off by going into the Security and Privacy pane of 
> System Preferences, and going to the Filevolt tab and VO spacing on it. 
> Once this loads, if you VO right, it will tell you whether Filevolt is 
> on, and let you turn it off. It will say it is dimmed until you VO space 
> on where it says “Click here to make changes.” Then, you put inn your 
> password, and you can make the change.
> Hope this helps,
> Jeffrey
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2015, at 11:49 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> What are the specs on the iMac?  I’m guessing that it probably has a 
>> spinning HD as opposed to the MBA’s Flash storage.  Flash storage has 
>> considerably faster access than any spinning HD, especially if the 
>> spinning HD is only 5400 RPM’s.  Depending on the model of the iMac, the 
>> default RAM could be around 8 GB which should not exhibit choppy speech 
>> like you’ve mentioned.  I use VO on some older iMacs when setting these 
>> machines up at my work, and they are slower at starting, slower at 
>> logging in but once everything in the background has finished doing its 
>> thing, VO works normally.  Make sure that you have the checkbox 
>> unchecked to re-open windows/applications when logging back in.  This 
>> box is visible when you go to logout.  Also, make sure you don’t have 
>> any apps set to automatically open as this can slow down the startup 
>> process as well.  There are enough processes going on in the background 
>> as it is during startup and login that make it feel slow that adding 
>> extra things simply prolong the wait.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2015, at 20:29, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> As some of you may remember, my employer has purchased an iMac for me.  
>>> I am sorry to say it, but I've been incredibly disappointed in the 
>>> iMac.  I had expected it to perform better than my MBA, but the 
>>> opposite seems to be the case.  It boots very slowly, and voiceover 
>>> cuts in and out after the boot process for a couple of minutes.  the 
>>> wireless connectivity also seems weaker than on my MBA.  It also 

Re: iMac versus MBA?

[Donna Goodin]

Oh, thanks for that!  It is a skinny iMac, and I didn't realize that the memory 
in those wasn't upgradable.  I'll think about upgrading to the virtual drive, 
probably will depend on what it costs.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Jan 15, 2015, at 5:07 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is it a skinny iMac?  If so, the memory can’t be upgraded.  It would probably 
> be better to have them switch out the spinning HD for an SSD instead.  I 
> think you’d see a good performance improvement.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 15:36, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, but I’m not going to give that up. lol.  I think I’ll try a repair 
>> permissions.  I also found that I do only have 8 GB of ram, I may see if 
>> they’ll upgrade me to 16.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 10:52 AM, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> another thing it could also be is using the Vocalizer voices (Samantha, 
>>> Jill, Tom, etc.) If using these voices, it will cause a slow down 
>>> potentially, although not always. This is because of the increased CPU 
>>> usage and maybe RAM usage? Not sure, of VoiceOver and it’s processes. Found 
>>> this out by looking in Activity Monitor one day. Also, if you go into 
>>> VoiceOver Utility, it may be trying to download the newer version of the 
>>> Alex Voice.
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Jeffrey
 On Jan 15, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Drat!  Filevault is turned off, I was really hoping that was the problem.
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On Jan 15, 2015, at 1:11 AM, Jeffrey Shockley  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I completely agree here. I’ve had this iMac here for a while now, and 
> once everything loads up, it’s pretty fast, and it’s one from a couple 
> years ago that only has 4 GB of RAM. One thing that could possibly be 
> going on is Spotlight could be indexing everything in the background 
> still for the first time, depending on how much stuff is on the drive.
> Also, making sure all updates to OS X and all apps are up-to-date will 
> also help.
> Another thing that may also help, is running a Repair Permissions scan on 
> the drive using Disc Utility.
> Also, if Filevolt is turned on, which it is by default now after a new 
> installation of Yosemite, then that could be the cause of the slowness 
> and, after turning Filevolt off, it will work much better. I’ve seen 
> stuff like this discussing Filevolt and system slowness at first before.
> You can turn this off by going into the Security and Privacy pane of 
> System Preferences, and going to the Filevolt tab and VO spacing on it. 
> Once this loads, if you VO right, it will tell you whether Filevolt is 
> on, and let you turn it off. It will say it is dimmed until you VO space 
> on where it says “Click here to make changes.” Then, you put inn your 
> password, and you can make the change.
> Hope this helps,
> Jeffrey
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2015, at 11:49 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> What are the specs on the iMac?  I’m guessing that it probably has a 
>> spinning HD as opposed to the MBA’s Flash storage.  Flash storage has 
>> considerably faster access than any spinning HD, especially if the 
>> spinning HD is only 5400 RPM’s.  Depending on the model of the iMac, the 
>> default RAM could be around 8 GB which should not exhibit choppy speech 
>> like you’ve mentioned.  I use VO on some older iMacs when setting these 
>> machines up at my work, and they are slower at starting, slower at 
>> logging in but once everything in the background has finished doing its 
>> thing, VO works normally.  Make sure that you have the checkbox 
>> unchecked to re-open windows/applications when logging back in.  This 
>> box is visible when you go to logout.  Also, make sure you don’t have 
>> any apps set to automatically open as this can slow down the startup 
>> process as well.  There are enough processes going on in the background 
>> as it is during startup and login that make it feel slow that adding 
>> extra things simply prolong the wait.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2015, at 20:29, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> As some of you may remember, my employer has purchased an iMac for me.  
>>> I am sorry to say it, but I've been incredibly disappointed in the 
>>> iMac.  I had expected it to perform better than my MBA, but the 
>>> opposite seems to be the case.  It boots very slowly, and voiceover 
>>> cuts in and out after the boot process for a couple of minutes.  the 
>>> wireless connectivity also seems weaker than on my MBA.  It also seems 
>>> more sluggish overall - apps take longer to open, documents and 
>>> websites take l

Re: iMac versus MBA?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Is it a skinny iMac?  If so, the memory can’t be upgraded.  It would probably 
be better to have them switch out the spinning HD for an SSD instead.  I think 
you’d see a good performance improvement.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jan 15, 2015, at 15:36, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Yeah, but I’m not going to give that up. lol.  I think I’ll try a repair 
> permissions.  I also found that I do only have 8 GB of ram, I may see if 
> they’ll upgrade me to 16.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 10:52 AM, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> another thing it could also be is using the Vocalizer voices (Samantha, 
>> Jill, Tom, etc.) If using these voices, it will cause a slow down 
>> potentially, although not always. This is because of the increased CPU usage 
>> and maybe RAM usage? Not sure, of VoiceOver and it’s processes. Found this 
>> out by looking in Activity Monitor one day. Also, if you go into VoiceOver 
>> Utility, it may be trying to download the newer version of the Alex Voice.
>> Hope this helps,
>> Jeffrey
>>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Drat!  Filevault is turned off, I was really hoping that was the problem.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On Jan 15, 2015, at 1:11 AM, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I completely agree here. I’ve had this iMac here for a while now, and once 
 everything loads up, it’s pretty fast, and it’s one from a couple years 
 ago that only has 4 GB of RAM. One thing that could possibly be going on 
 is Spotlight could be indexing everything in the background still for the 
 first time, depending on how much stuff is on the drive.
 Also, making sure all updates to OS X and all apps are up-to-date will 
 also help.
 Another thing that may also help, is running a Repair Permissions scan on 
 the drive using Disc Utility.
 Also, if Filevolt is turned on, which it is by default now after a new 
 installation of Yosemite, then that could be the cause of the slowness 
 and, after turning Filevolt off, it will work much better. I’ve seen stuff 
 like this discussing Filevolt and system slowness at first before.
 You can turn this off by going into the Security and Privacy pane of 
 System Preferences, and going to the Filevolt tab and VO spacing on it. 
 Once this loads, if you VO right, it will tell you whether Filevolt is on, 
 and let you turn it off. It will say it is dimmed until you VO space on 
 where it says “Click here to make changes.” Then, you put inn your 
 password, and you can make the change.
 Hope this helps,
 Jeffrey
 
> On Jan 14, 2015, at 11:49 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> What are the specs on the iMac?  I’m guessing that it probably has a 
> spinning HD as opposed to the MBA’s Flash storage.  Flash storage has 
> considerably faster access than any spinning HD, especially if the 
> spinning HD is only 5400 RPM’s.  Depending on the model of the iMac, the 
> default RAM could be around 8 GB which should not exhibit choppy speech 
> like you’ve mentioned.  I use VO on some older iMacs when setting these 
> machines up at my work, and they are slower at starting, slower at 
> logging in but once everything in the background has finished doing its 
> thing, VO works normally.  Make sure that you have the checkbox unchecked 
> to re-open windows/applications when logging back in.  This box is 
> visible when you go to logout.  Also, make sure you don’t have any apps 
> set to automatically open as this can slow down the startup process as 
> well.  There are enough processes going on in the background as it is 
> during startup and login that make it feel slow that adding extra things 
> simply prolong the wait.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2015, at 20:29, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> As some of you may remember, my employer has purchased an iMac for me.  
>> I am sorry to say it, but I've been incredibly disappointed in the iMac. 
>>  I had expected it to perform better than my MBA, but the opposite seems 
>> to be the case.  It boots very slowly, and voiceover cuts in and out 
>> after the boot process for a couple of minutes.  the wireless 
>> connectivity also seems weaker than on my MBA.  It also seems more 
>> sluggish overall - apps take longer to open, documents and websites take 
>> longer to load.  Long and short, I'd never choose it over my MBA if it 
>> weren't my work computer.  I'm wondering if anyone else has observed 
>> similar behavior?  If so, any strategies for troubleshooting?  I'm 
>> thinking of adding more memory, in the hope that that will speed up the 
>> boot time and get rid of VO dragging.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 

Re: iMac versus MBA?

[Jeffrey Shockley]

Hi,
I agree, 8 GB should be fine. That’s twice the amount that I have in here, 
because I’ve never upgraded anything internally on here, and it works fine. 
Just to see what would happen, I switched to one of the Vocalizer voices, and I 
experienced choppy speech, and it did slow things down quite a bit. But, once I 
switched to something else other than one of those voices, then everything sped 
up, as the CPU was freed up. Sitting here now, using Alex as an example, I have 
4 programs up including Mail, and I have 88.9% of the CPU free, and none of the 
swopp file is being used. Nothing using Flash is up either. Adobe Flash Player 
is also a CPU hog, so anything running that is using it, could cause the slow 
down.
Just going through things I have seen slow down my Macs here.
I hope this helps,
Jeffrey
> On Jan 15, 2015, at 5:46 PM, Scott Erichsen  wrote:
> 
> 8gb memory should honestly be fine for an iMac.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Friday, 16 January 2015 9:36 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iMac versus MBA?
> 
> Yeah, but I’m not going to give that up. lol.  I think I’ll try a repair 
> permissions.  I also found that I do only have 8 GB of ram, I may see if 
> they’ll upgrade me to 16.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 10:52 AM, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> another thing it could also be is using the Vocalizer voices (Samantha, 
>> Jill, Tom, etc.) If using these voices, it will cause a slow down 
>> potentially, although not always. This is because of the increased CPU usage 
>> and maybe RAM usage? Not sure, of VoiceOver and it’s processes. Found this 
>> out by looking in Activity Monitor one day. Also, if you go into VoiceOver 
>> Utility, it may be trying to download the newer version of the Alex Voice.
>> Hope this helps,
>> Jeffrey
>>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Drat!  Filevault is turned off, I was really hoping that was the problem.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On Jan 15, 2015, at 1:11 AM, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I completely agree here. I’ve had this iMac here for a while now, and once 
 everything loads up, it’s pretty fast, and it’s one from a couple years 
 ago that only has 4 GB of RAM. One thing that could possibly be going on 
 is Spotlight could be indexing everything in the background still for the 
 first time, depending on how much stuff is on the drive.
 Also, making sure all updates to OS X and all apps are up-to-date will 
 also help.
 Another thing that may also help, is running a Repair Permissions scan on 
 the drive using Disc Utility.
 Also, if Filevolt is turned on, which it is by default now after a new 
 installation of Yosemite, then that could be the cause of the slowness 
 and, after turning Filevolt off, it will work much better. I’ve seen stuff 
 like this discussing Filevolt and system slowness at first before.
 You can turn this off by going into the Security and Privacy pane of 
 System Preferences, and going to the Filevolt tab and VO spacing on it. 
 Once this loads, if you VO right, it will tell you whether Filevolt is on, 
 and let you turn it off. It will say it is dimmed until you VO space on 
 where it says “Click here to make changes.” Then, you put inn your 
 password, and you can make the change.
 Hope this helps,
 Jeffrey
 
> On Jan 14, 2015, at 11:49 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> What are the specs on the iMac?  I’m guessing that it probably has a 
> spinning HD as opposed to the MBA’s Flash storage.  Flash storage has 
> considerably faster access than any spinning HD, especially if the 
> spinning HD is only 5400 RPM’s.  Depending on the model of the iMac, the 
> default RAM could be around 8 GB which should not exhibit choppy speech 
> like you’ve mentioned.  I use VO on some older iMacs when setting these 
> machines up at my work, and they are slower at starting, slower at 
> logging in but once everything in the background has finished doing its 
> thing, VO works normally.  Make sure that you have the checkbox unchecked 
> to re-open windows/applications when logging back in.  This box is 
> visible when you go to logout.  Also, make sure you don’t have any apps 
> set to automatically open as this can slow down the startup process as 
> well.  There are enough processes going on in the background as it is 
> during startup and login that make it feel slow that adding extra things 
> simply prolong the wait.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2015, at 20:29, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> As some of you may remember, my employer has purchased an iMa

RE: iMac versus MBA?

[Scott Erichsen]

8gb memory should honestly be fine for an iMac.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Friday, 16 January 2015 9:36 AM
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Subject: Re: iMac versus MBA?

Yeah, but I’m not going to give that up. lol.  I think I’ll try a repair 
permissions.  I also found that I do only have 8 GB of ram, I may see if 
they’ll upgrade me to 16.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Jan 15, 2015, at 10:52 AM, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> another thing it could also be is using the Vocalizer voices (Samantha, Jill, 
> Tom, etc.) If using these voices, it will cause a slow down potentially, 
> although not always. This is because of the increased CPU usage and maybe RAM 
> usage? Not sure, of VoiceOver and it’s processes. Found this out by looking 
> in Activity Monitor one day. Also, if you go into VoiceOver Utility, it may 
> be trying to download the newer version of the Alex Voice.
> Hope this helps,
> Jeffrey
>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Drat!  Filevault is turned off, I was really hoping that was the problem.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 1:11 AM, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I completely agree here. I’ve had this iMac here for a while now, and once 
>>> everything loads up, it’s pretty fast, and it’s one from a couple years ago 
>>> that only has 4 GB of RAM. One thing that could possibly be going on is 
>>> Spotlight could be indexing everything in the background still for the 
>>> first time, depending on how much stuff is on the drive.
>>> Also, making sure all updates to OS X and all apps are up-to-date will also 
>>> help.
>>> Another thing that may also help, is running a Repair Permissions scan on 
>>> the drive using Disc Utility.
>>> Also, if Filevolt is turned on, which it is by default now after a new 
>>> installation of Yosemite, then that could be the cause of the slowness and, 
>>> after turning Filevolt off, it will work much better. I’ve seen stuff like 
>>> this discussing Filevolt and system slowness at first before.
>>> You can turn this off by going into the Security and Privacy pane of System 
>>> Preferences, and going to the Filevolt tab and VO spacing on it. Once this 
>>> loads, if you VO right, it will tell you whether Filevolt is on, and let 
>>> you turn it off. It will say it is dimmed until you VO space on where it 
>>> says “Click here to make changes.” Then, you put inn your password, and you 
>>> can make the change.
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Jeffrey
>>> 
 On Jan 14, 2015, at 11:49 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 What are the specs on the iMac?  I’m guessing that it probably has a 
 spinning HD as opposed to the MBA’s Flash storage.  Flash storage has 
 considerably faster access than any spinning HD, especially if the 
 spinning HD is only 5400 RPM’s.  Depending on the model of the iMac, the 
 default RAM could be around 8 GB which should not exhibit choppy speech 
 like you’ve mentioned.  I use VO on some older iMacs when setting these 
 machines up at my work, and they are slower at starting, slower at logging 
 in but once everything in the background has finished doing its thing, VO 
 works normally.  Make sure that you have the checkbox unchecked to re-open 
 windows/applications when logging back in.  This box is visible when you 
 go to logout.  Also, make sure you don’t have any apps set to 
 automatically open as this can slow down the startup process as well.  
 There are enough processes going on in the background as it is during 
 startup and login that make it feel slow that adding extra things simply 
 prolong the wait.
 
 HTH.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
> On Jan 14, 2015, at 20:29, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> As some of you may remember, my employer has purchased an iMac for me.  I 
> am sorry to say it, but I've been incredibly disappointed in the iMac.  I 
> had expected it to perform better than my MBA, but the opposite seems to 
> be the case.  It boots very slowly, and voiceover cuts in and out after 
> the boot process for a couple of minutes.  the wireless connectivity also 
> seems weaker than on my MBA.  It also seems more sluggish overall - apps 
> take longer to open, documents and websites take longer to load.  Long 
> and short, I'd never choose it over my MBA if it weren't my work 
> computer.  I'm wondering if anyone else has observed similar behavior?  
> If so, any strategies for troubleshooting?  I'm thinking of adding more 
> memory, in the hope that that will speed up the boot time and get rid of 
> VO dragging.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: iMac versus MBA?

[Donna Goodin]

Yeah, but I’m not going to give that up. lol.  I think I’ll try a repair 
permissions.  I also found that I do only have 8 GB of ram, I may see if 
they’ll upgrade me to 16.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Jan 15, 2015, at 10:52 AM, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> another thing it could also be is using the Vocalizer voices (Samantha, Jill, 
> Tom, etc.) If using these voices, it will cause a slow down potentially, 
> although not always. This is because of the increased CPU usage and maybe RAM 
> usage? Not sure, of VoiceOver and it’s processes. Found this out by looking 
> in Activity Monitor one day. Also, if you go into VoiceOver Utility, it may 
> be trying to download the newer version of the Alex Voice.
> Hope this helps,
> Jeffrey
>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Drat!  Filevault is turned off, I was really hoping that was the problem.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 1:11 AM, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I completely agree here. I’ve had this iMac here for a while now, and once 
>>> everything loads up, it’s pretty fast, and it’s one from a couple years ago 
>>> that only has 4 GB of RAM. One thing that could possibly be going on is 
>>> Spotlight could be indexing everything in the background still for the 
>>> first time, depending on how much stuff is on the drive.
>>> Also, making sure all updates to OS X and all apps are up-to-date will also 
>>> help.
>>> Another thing that may also help, is running a Repair Permissions scan on 
>>> the drive using Disc Utility.
>>> Also, if Filevolt is turned on, which it is by default now after a new 
>>> installation of Yosemite, then that could be the cause of the slowness and, 
>>> after turning Filevolt off, it will work much better. I’ve seen stuff like 
>>> this discussing Filevolt and system slowness at first before.
>>> You can turn this off by going into the Security and Privacy pane of System 
>>> Preferences, and going to the Filevolt tab and VO spacing on it. Once this 
>>> loads, if you VO right, it will tell you whether Filevolt is on, and let 
>>> you turn it off. It will say it is dimmed until you VO space on where it 
>>> says “Click here to make changes.” Then, you put inn your password, and you 
>>> can make the change.
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Jeffrey
>>> 
 On Jan 14, 2015, at 11:49 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 What are the specs on the iMac?  I’m guessing that it probably has a 
 spinning HD as opposed to the MBA’s Flash storage.  Flash storage has 
 considerably faster access than any spinning HD, especially if the 
 spinning HD is only 5400 RPM’s.  Depending on the model of the iMac, the 
 default RAM could be around 8 GB which should not exhibit choppy speech 
 like you’ve mentioned.  I use VO on some older iMacs when setting these 
 machines up at my work, and they are slower at starting, slower at logging 
 in but once everything in the background has finished doing its thing, VO 
 works normally.  Make sure that you have the checkbox unchecked to re-open 
 windows/applications when logging back in.  This box is visible when you 
 go to logout.  Also, make sure you don’t have any apps set to 
 automatically open as this can slow down the startup process as well.  
 There are enough processes going on in the background as it is during 
 startup and login that make it feel slow that adding extra things simply 
 prolong the wait.
 
 HTH.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
> On Jan 14, 2015, at 20:29, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> As some of you may remember, my employer has purchased an iMac for me.  I 
> am sorry to say it, but I've been incredibly disappointed in the iMac.  I 
> had expected it to perform better than my MBA, but the opposite seems to 
> be the case.  It boots very slowly, and voiceover cuts in and out after 
> the boot process for a couple of minutes.  the wireless connectivity also 
> seems weaker than on my MBA.  It also seems more sluggish overall - apps 
> take longer to open, documents and websites take longer to load.  Long 
> and short, I'd never choose it over my MBA if it weren't my work 
> computer.  I'm wondering if anyone else has observed similar behavior?  
> If so, any strategies for troubleshooting?  I'm thinking of adding more 
> memory, in the hope that that will speed up the boot time and get rid of 
> VO dragging.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: Response from Amazon regarding captchas

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Nope! No audio captcha.
> On Jan 12, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Do they have an option for an audio captcha?
> 
> Gabe
> 
> 
> On Jan 10, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  > wrote:
> 
>> Thought you guys would want to see the response I received from Amazon 
>> regarding the captchas on the gift card page.
>> Hello, 
>> 
>> Amazon.com  implements CAPTCHA on several features on 
>> Amazon.com  such as password changes. Users are 
>> presented with a picture, and asked to copy the text string in the picture 
>> into a text entry field before continuing. 
>> 
>> Entering the characters displayed helps prevent automated programs from 
>> accessing features on Amazon.com . We do this to 
>> maintain the security of your account and personal information. 
>> 
>> If you're presented with a verification screen and you're unable to read or 
>> enter the word(s) displayed, please click or press enter on the following 
>> link. You can either enter your number and we'll give you a call, or you 
>> call us directly at one of the numbers provided on the page. 
>> 
>> www.amazon.com/accessibility-contactus 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> We hope to see you again soon.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Bea D.
>> Did I solve your problem?
>> Yes 
>> 
>>   No 
>> 
>> Your feedback is helping us build Earth's Most Customer-Centric Company.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> Amazon.com 
>> 
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Re: Keeping a journal, both on Mac and iPhone?

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Mac journal got bad reviews. It is pricy!
> On Jan 12, 2015, at 8:17 PM, Christina C.  wrote:
> 
> Deedra,
> 
> Thanks for this info. I have MacJournal. I really wanted to Journal but I 
> have not taken the time to learn it yet. One thing holding me back is that I 
> want to know how well it sync’s with the iPhone version and if the iPhone 
> version is accessible. I just have not had time to experiment. Do you have 
> any experience with the iOS version and syncing via the macJournal app or 
> dropbox?
> 
> Thanks,
> Christina
>> On Jan 12, 2015, at 6:18 PM, deedra waters  wrote:
>> 
>> I haven’t been following this thread so please excuse me for repeating 
>> something someone else has said.
>> 
>> I bought macjournal because i have to keep several different journals some 
>> for a class, personal, and some other things. I found it definitly useable 
>> with no real problems. I have one journal that’s locked and it took me a few 
>> minutes to figure out how that part worked, but once you play with it a bit 
>> it’s perfectly fine. I thought i’d jump in here because macjournal is 
>> slightly pricey but again it’s so worth it.:)
>> 
>> 
>> deedra waters
>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 12, 2015, at 4:25 AM, Mike Busboom  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Christina and Sarai,
>>> 
>>> Thank you both for your input.
>>> 
>>> I can forego nested journals, so it looks like probably the best approach 
>>> will be to try MacJournal.  
>>> 
>>> Using notes for journaling has been a real pain, hence my desire to find 
>>> something better.
>>> 
>>> Here in Europe, it is easy (or so I have been told) to get refunds on 
>>> things purchased in the app store.  So if MacJournal for the iPhone doesn’t 
>>> work on the iPhone, from an accessibility perspective, I can always get my 
>>> money back.
>>> 
>>> My very best,
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> On 12,Jan,2015, at 01:49, Christina C.  wrote:
>>> 
 The last time I checked DayOne was not accessible for iPhone. I contacted 
 the developers and they told me they had made VO improvements for the Mac 
 version but not for iOS. It was easy for me to make a journal entry with 
 day one on the iPhone but that was about it. the rest of the actions were 
 very difficult or impossible. You’d have to go to the app store and check 
 out their latest updates over the last few months to see if they mention 
 VO improvements but I personally have not seen any mentioned. I have not 
 read every update log for every update of day One for iOS but I’ve read a 
 few and not seen any mention of VO enhancements. Also, as of a few months 
 ago, you can only create one journal but you can tag your journal entries.
 
 Christina
> On Jan 11, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
>  wrote:
> 
> Day One is supposed to be a good app for iPhone and Mac. I’ve neer used 
> it before, but it is highly rated.
>> On Jan 11, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Christina C.  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Check out macJournal. I cannot tell you how accessible the mac version 
>> is because I only have a little bit of experience with it. The little 
>> bit of experience is so far promising. I have not used the iPhone 
>> version yet. It’s really more about a lack of time to learn to set 
>> everything up in order to sync across devices. I think you can choose to 
>> sync via drop box or through macJournal but I do not know how to do 
>> either and do not know if the iPhone version is accessible.  I believe 
>> the macJournal for Mac has a downloadable trial for free on the website 
>> not through the app store.
>> 
>> Also, I know you can create multiple Journals but I don’t know about 
>> nested journals. I don’t know what that is and how in the world you are 
>> doing that with notes. :)
>> 
>> Good Luck,
>> Christina
>>> On Jan 11, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Mike Busboom  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> For the past two years or so, I have been keeping sort of a journal on 
>>> my Mac, using the Notes app.  The reason this works for me is that I 
>>> can also add notes from my iPhone, and they will appear on my Mac.  I 
>>> have amassed thousands of notes and don’t know how I will ever import 
>>> all of them into a journal.
>>> 
>>> Is there an accessible app, both for the Mac and the iPhone that would 
>>> allow me to keep my journals?  I keep three different kinds of 
>>> journals, so perhaps a program allowing for “nested journals” would be 
>>> the ticket.
>>> 
>>> The program needs to work seamlessly between the Mac and the iPhone 
>>> and, of course, it needs to work on both platforms with VoiceOver.
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.  
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Mike
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Re: Learning pages, numbers, and keynote

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi:
The iBooks store has some good books. Applevise web site has some good podcasts.
> On Jan 14, 2015, at 11:44 AM, Antonio Guimaraes  wrote:
> 
> Where would I find textbooks, or tutorials on using these applications with 
> voice over?
> 
> Antonio
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Re: Sorting Data in Numbers

[Jürgen Fleger]

Thanks Nic, I always appreciate your explanations.
Jürgen

> Am 15.01.2015 um 12:54 schrieb Nicholas Parsons 
> :
> 
> And of course once you open the context menu one of the first few options is 
> “Sort ascending”, and the next is “Sort Descending”. Those are for sorting 
> rather than filtering. You do not need the submenu for the sorting options, 
> only the filtering options. Sorry if that explanation was not needed, just 
> thought I’d add it so it’s clear for anyone that’s interested.
> 
>> On 11 Jan 2015, at 4:26 am, Jürgen Fleger > > wrote:
>> 
>> OK, thanks for your answer. That was very clear to me. Now I’m able to 
>> figure out more.
>> All the best
>> Jürgen
>> 
>>> Am 10.01.2015 um 15:55 schrieb Phil Halton >> >:
>>> 
>>> Yes, VO does not always speak the initial list of row/column headers when 
>>> you first enter the headers. But, arrowing up or down will speak either row 
>>> or column header. anyway, once you have your desired column selected and 
>>> have brought up the context menu, you have those sort and filter options as 
>>> you said. The context menu entry called “sort and filter options” is just a 
>>> heading for options that are listed below it. 
>>> Below sort and filter options you will find “filter table” which is a 
>>> submenu. in that submenu, you will find a listing of all the unique data 
>>> found in the selected column. If you press VO spacebar, or enter on any of 
>>> these entries, Numbers will filter the table showing only those rows that 
>>> contain the filtered data item.
>>> For example, a table with a column containing  the name of the month could 
>>> be filtered to show only “January” entries.
>>> This is a shortcut method of filtering the table which can also be done in 
>>> the sort and filter inspector, where you can specify more sophisticated 
>>> filter rules.
>>> Check out the sort inspector after you do this shortcut filtering method 
>>> and you’ll see that numbers created a rule to produce the filter you 
>>> selected in the context menu. You can add to it, modify the rule, or delete 
>>> all or part of it etc.
>>> It’s important to know that once you’ve filtered a table, you can’t use the 
>>> VO arrow keys. you have to use the arrow keys by themselves to see the 
>>> filtered table rows/columns. If you use the VO arrow keys, Numbers will 
>>> show you the unfiltered table entries along with the desired filtered data.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>   
>>> 
 On Jan 10, 2015, at 5:13 AM, Jürgen Fleger >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi Phil,
 
 I didn’t want to dought your instructions. I’m sorry if I raised this 
 impression. I find it very useful if people take the time to answer very 
 detailed. Thanks for that. And I agree, to assume people know to press 
 Enter is something you can expect.
 
 What I find confusing:
 1. My VO doesn’t anounces wether the column is highlighted or not.
 2. After choosing a column I can open a context menue. There’s an entry 
 called something like „Sorting and filter options“. I translated this 
 entry name from german and so it might be a little bit different in your 
 context menue. If I press on this entry nothing happens. Do you know 
 something about this functionality?
 
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 
 
> Am 09.01.2015 um 15:59 schrieb Phil Halton  >:
> 
> Yes, I use V3.5 (2019). I don’t know what your question is, all I said 
> was that you could sort up or down (high or low or whatever you want to 
> call it). I detailed the method I use for sorting table rows using a 
> specific column as the sort key. I also showed how I sort subsets of rows 
> and columns. You can also use multiple sort keys. So, what method are you 
> saying doesn’t seem to work? Did you forget to press enter or VO space on 
> the header selections? You know after entering the headers and arrowing 
> down to either row or column headers, did you first press enter before 
> trying to arrow right or left to the specific column header to use? It’s 
> the only thing I can think of that you might have not done. I re-read my 
> message and that’s the only thing I left out. I just assumed people knew 
> that sort of thing.
>  
> 
> 
>> On Jan 9, 2015, at 4:36 AM, Jürgen Fleger > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Phil,
>> did you try this method in Numbers version 3.5 (2109)? I’mnot quite sure 
>> but it seems not really to work that way anymore. All I can do is 
>> sorting up or down. But if you could try it out and tell wether it 
>> worked still for you in this version of Numbers it would be a motivation 
>> for me to play around a little more.
>> Thanks and 
>> all the best
>> Jürgen
>> 
>>  
>>> Am 08.01.2015 um 21:51 sc

mac mini 2012 model hard drive?

[Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona]

Hello a power surge took out my mac mini
the hard drive still spins up what size is the hard drive as far as what 
it will fit in.

I plan on getting a usb drive enclosure for the hard drive.
I won't be able to get a mac for quite a while at this point.
thanks
Hank

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Re: clean my mac questions

[christopher hallsworth]

Press return to begin a scan. When you hear the chime press return again to do 
a clean. Use the items in the view menu or press command-number to switch to 
the different modes of operation such as automatic cleaning which is command-1.
> On 15 Jan 2015, at 18:20, Faisal ali  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I just downloaded clean my mac and have couple of questions. when I first 
> load the app, all the buttons such as automatic clean, manually clea are all 
> dimmed. Is there something I do to allow it to clean my machine? I tried 
> navigating around but there are a lot of unlabelled buttons as well so 
> nothing is really popping out at me.
> Also, I saw that it also offers a full version. What’s the difference between 
> the full version and the free version? this wasn’t made clear on their 
> website.
> Thanks
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Re: iMac versus MBA?

[christopher hallsworth]

Google for it. I use it and like it a lot. I paid for it because of what it 
could do. You can only clean up to 500 MB in the trial.
> On 15 Jan 2015, at 17:43, Faisal ali  wrote:
> 
> Hi David,
> Where can clean my mac be found? Is it in the app store?
> Thanks
>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 3:05 AM, David Griffith  wrote:
>> 
>> I am using an iMac from 2011 and if you have ever listened to any of my 
>> Podcasts you should be able to hear that it is a pretty fast machine.
>> 
>> However back in 2011 I invested in a 256GB solid state drive and 16 GB of 
>> ram. I have never regretted doing this.
>> 
>> If your machine is of an even a more recent spec and not performing then 
>> there may be something else wrong.
>> The biggest factors in slowing Voiceover down for me are
>> 1. Not using Alex as default voice creates problems.
>> 2. I have learnt not to use activities.
>> 3. The number of external drives I have attached makes a difference.  If 
>> these multiply then the time the Mac takes to boot increases a lot, 
>> especially if they are slow big drives.
>> 4. Permissions repair and using clean my Mac also seems to speed up matters.
>> 
>> Generally I would have a look at what is being loaded at start up to see if 
>> what is being loaded and take out anything you do not need.
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> 
>> On 15/01/2015 03:29, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> As some of you may remember, my employer has purchased an iMac for me.  I 
>>> am sorry to say it, but I've been incredibly disappointed in the iMac.  I 
>>> had expected it to perform better than my MBA, but the opposite seems to be 
>>> the case.  It boots very slowly, and voiceover cuts in and out after the 
>>> boot process for a couple of minutes.  the wireless connectivity also seems 
>>> weaker than on my MBA.  It also seems more sluggish overall - apps take 
>>> longer to open, documents and websites take longer to load.  Long and 
>>> short, I'd never choose it over my MBA if it weren't my work computer.  I'm 
>>> wondering if anyone else has observed similar behavior?  If so, any 
>>> strategies for troubleshooting?  I'm thinking of adding more memory, in the 
>>> hope that that will speed up the boot time and get rid of VO dragging.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
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Re: clean my mac questions

[Faisal ali]

Hi,
Yes, that is a serious drawback. How can one really test an app if it doesn’t 
even work without having to pay for it? I think I will stick to dis clean pro 
for the time being.
> On Jan 15, 2015, at 11:36 AM, Caitlyn Furness  
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> 
> Hi,
> I don’t know about the unlabeled buttons.
> 
> I do know that if you use the free version, it doesn’t really clean anything, 
> just supposedly finds stuff that needs to be cleaned.  For it to work fully, 
> you need to buy the program.  this is why I personally haven’t purchased it.  
> Makes me leary that it doesn’t clean with the free version, but works with 
> purchase..
> hth,
> Caitlyn
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 1:20 PM, Faisal ali  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I just downloaded clean my mac and have couple of questions. when I first 
>> load the app, all the buttons such as automatic clean, manually clea are all 
>> dimmed. Is there something I do to allow it to clean my machine? I tried 
>> navigating around but there are a lot of unlabelled buttons as well so 
>> nothing is really popping out at me.
>> Also, I saw that it also offers a full version. What’s the difference 
>> between the full version and the free version? this wasn’t made clear on 
>> their website.
>> Thanks
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Re: clean my mac questions

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Hi,
I don’t know about the unlabeled buttons.

I do know that if you use the free version, it doesn’t really clean anything, 
just supposedly finds stuff that needs to be cleaned.  For it to work fully, 
you need to buy the program.  this is why I personally haven’t purchased it.  
Makes me leary that it doesn’t clean with the free version, but works with 
purchase..
hth,
Caitlyn

> On Jan 15, 2015, at 1:20 PM, Faisal ali  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I just downloaded clean my mac and have couple of questions. when I first 
> load the app, all the buttons such as automatic clean, manually clea are all 
> dimmed. Is there something I do to allow it to clean my machine? I tried 
> navigating around but there are a lot of unlabelled buttons as well so 
> nothing is really popping out at me.
> Also, I saw that it also offers a full version. What’s the difference between 
> the full version and the free version? this wasn’t made clear on their 
> website.
> Thanks
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clean my mac questions

[Faisal ali]

Hi all,
I just downloaded clean my mac and have couple of questions. when I first load 
the app, all the buttons such as automatic clean, manually clea are all dimmed. 
Is there something I do to allow it to clean my machine? I tried navigating 
around but there are a lot of unlabelled buttons as well so nothing is really 
popping out at me.
Also, I saw that it also offers a full version. What’s the difference between 
the full version and the free version? this wasn’t made clear on their website.
Thanks

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Re: iMac versus MBA?

[David Griffith]

It is not in the app store but I found it as the first result when I 
went into google.


David Griffith

On 15/01/2015 17:43, Faisal ali wrote:

Hi David,
Where can clean my mac be found? Is it in the app store?
Thanks

On Jan 15, 2015, at 3:05 AM, David Griffith  wrote:

I am using an iMac from 2011 and if you have ever listened to any of my 
Podcasts you should be able to hear that it is a pretty fast machine.

However back in 2011 I invested in a 256GB solid state drive and 16 GB of ram. 
I have never regretted doing this.

If your machine is of an even a more recent spec and not performing then there 
may be something else wrong.
The biggest factors in slowing Voiceover down for me are
1. Not using Alex as default voice creates problems.
2. I have learnt not to use activities.
3. The number of external drives I have attached makes a difference.  If these 
multiply then the time the Mac takes to boot increases a lot, especially if 
they are slow big drives.
4. Permissions repair and using clean my Mac also seems to speed up matters.

Generally I would have a look at what is being loaded at start up to see if 
what is being loaded and take out anything you do not need.

David Griffith

On 15/01/2015 03:29, Donna Goodin wrote:

Hi all,

As some of you may remember, my employer has purchased an iMac for me.  I am 
sorry to say it, but I've been incredibly disappointed in the iMac.  I had 
expected it to perform better than my MBA, but the opposite seems to be the 
case.  It boots very slowly, and voiceover cuts in and out after the boot 
process for a couple of minutes.  the wireless connectivity also seems weaker 
than on my MBA.  It also seems more sluggish overall - apps take longer to 
open, documents and websites take longer to load.  Long and short, I'd never 
choose it over my MBA if it weren't my work computer.  I'm wondering if anyone 
else has observed similar behavior?  If so, any strategies for troubleshooting? 
 I'm thinking of adding more memory, in the hope that that will speed up the 
boot time and get rid of VO dragging.
Cheers,
Donna


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Re: iMac versus MBA?

[Faisal ali]

Hi David,
Where can clean my mac be found? Is it in the app store?
Thanks
> On Jan 15, 2015, at 3:05 AM, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
> I am using an iMac from 2011 and if you have ever listened to any of my 
> Podcasts you should be able to hear that it is a pretty fast machine.
> 
> However back in 2011 I invested in a 256GB solid state drive and 16 GB of 
> ram. I have never regretted doing this.
> 
> If your machine is of an even a more recent spec and not performing then 
> there may be something else wrong.
> The biggest factors in slowing Voiceover down for me are
> 1. Not using Alex as default voice creates problems.
> 2. I have learnt not to use activities.
> 3. The number of external drives I have attached makes a difference.  If 
> these multiply then the time the Mac takes to boot increases a lot, 
> especially if they are slow big drives.
> 4. Permissions repair and using clean my Mac also seems to speed up matters.
> 
> Generally I would have a look at what is being loaded at start up to see if 
> what is being loaded and take out anything you do not need.
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> On 15/01/2015 03:29, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> As some of you may remember, my employer has purchased an iMac for me.  I am 
>> sorry to say it, but I've been incredibly disappointed in the iMac.  I had 
>> expected it to perform better than my MBA, but the opposite seems to be the 
>> case.  It boots very slowly, and voiceover cuts in and out after the boot 
>> process for a couple of minutes.  the wireless connectivity also seems 
>> weaker than on my MBA.  It also seems more sluggish overall - apps take 
>> longer to open, documents and websites take longer to load.  Long and short, 
>> I'd never choose it over my MBA if it weren't my work computer.  I'm 
>> wondering if anyone else has observed similar behavior?  If so, any 
>> strategies for troubleshooting?  I'm thinking of adding more memory, in the 
>> hope that that will speed up the boot time and get rid of VO dragging.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
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Re: iMac versus MBA?

[Jeffrey Shockley]

Hi,
another thing it could also be is using the Vocalizer voices (Samantha, Jill, 
Tom, etc.) If using these voices, it will cause a slow down potentially, 
although not always. This is because of the increased CPU usage and maybe RAM 
usage? Not sure, of VoiceOver and it’s processes. Found this out by looking in 
Activity Monitor one day. Also, if you go into VoiceOver Utility, it may be 
trying to download the newer version of the Alex Voice.
Hope this helps,
Jeffrey
> On Jan 15, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Drat!  Filevault is turned off, I was really hoping that was the problem.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 1:11 AM, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I completely agree here. I’ve had this iMac here for a while now, and once 
>> everything loads up, it’s pretty fast, and it’s one from a couple years ago 
>> that only has 4 GB of RAM. One thing that could possibly be going on is 
>> Spotlight could be indexing everything in the background still for the first 
>> time, depending on how much stuff is on the drive.
>> Also, making sure all updates to OS X and all apps are up-to-date will also 
>> help.
>> Another thing that may also help, is running a Repair Permissions scan on 
>> the drive using Disc Utility.
>> Also, if Filevolt is turned on, which it is by default now after a new 
>> installation of Yosemite, then that could be the cause of the slowness and, 
>> after turning Filevolt off, it will work much better. I’ve seen stuff like 
>> this discussing Filevolt and system slowness at first before.
>> You can turn this off by going into the Security and Privacy pane of System 
>> Preferences, and going to the Filevolt tab and VO spacing on it. Once this 
>> loads, if you VO right, it will tell you whether Filevolt is on, and let you 
>> turn it off. It will say it is dimmed until you VO space on where it says 
>> “Click here to make changes.” Then, you put inn your password, and you can 
>> make the change.
>> Hope this helps,
>> Jeffrey
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2015, at 11:49 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> What are the specs on the iMac?  I’m guessing that it probably has a 
>>> spinning HD as opposed to the MBA’s Flash storage.  Flash storage has 
>>> considerably faster access than any spinning HD, especially if the spinning 
>>> HD is only 5400 RPM’s.  Depending on the model of the iMac, the default RAM 
>>> could be around 8 GB which should not exhibit choppy speech like you’ve 
>>> mentioned.  I use VO on some older iMacs when setting these machines up at 
>>> my work, and they are slower at starting, slower at logging in but once 
>>> everything in the background has finished doing its thing, VO works 
>>> normally.  Make sure that you have the checkbox unchecked to re-open 
>>> windows/applications when logging back in.  This box is visible when you go 
>>> to logout.  Also, make sure you don’t have any apps set to automatically 
>>> open as this can slow down the startup process as well.  There are enough 
>>> processes going on in the background as it is during startup and login that 
>>> make it feel slow that adding extra things simply prolong the wait.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Jan 14, 2015, at 20:29, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 As some of you may remember, my employer has purchased an iMac for me.  I 
 am sorry to say it, but I've been incredibly disappointed in the iMac.  I 
 had expected it to perform better than my MBA, but the opposite seems to 
 be the case.  It boots very slowly, and voiceover cuts in and out after 
 the boot process for a couple of minutes.  the wireless connectivity also 
 seems weaker than on my MBA.  It also seems more sluggish overall - apps 
 take longer to open, documents and websites take longer to load.  Long and 
 short, I'd never choose it over my MBA if it weren't my work computer.  
 I'm wondering if anyone else has observed similar behavior?  If so, any 
 strategies for troubleshooting?  I'm thinking of adding more memory, in 
 the hope that that will speed up the boot time and get rid of VO dragging.
 Cheers,
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Re: iMac versus MBA?

[Jeffrey Shockley]

Hi,
It’s in System Preferences/Security and Privacy. Once there, select (VO Space) 
on the FileVolt tab. Once there, Just VO right, and it’s there, and the option 
will be dimmed until you click where it says “Click here to make changes,” and 
you’ll have to enter your password to make the options become available.
Hope this helps,
Jeffrey
> On Jan 15, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jeff,
> 
> Where is the option to disable Filevolt?
> Thanks,
> Donna
>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 1:11 AM, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I completely agree here. I’ve had this iMac here for a while now, and once 
>> everything loads up, it’s pretty fast, and it’s one from a couple years ago 
>> that only has 4 GB of RAM. One thing that could possibly be going on is 
>> Spotlight could be indexing everything in the background still for the first 
>> time, depending on how much stuff is on the drive.
>> Also, making sure all updates to OS X and all apps are up-to-date will also 
>> help.
>> Another thing that may also help, is running a Repair Permissions scan on 
>> the drive using Disc Utility.
>> Also, if Filevolt is turned on, which it is by default now after a new 
>> installation of Yosemite, then that could be the cause of the slowness and, 
>> after turning Filevolt off, it will work much better. I’ve seen stuff like 
>> this discussing Filevolt and system slowness at first before.
>> You can turn this off by going into the Security and Privacy pane of System 
>> Preferences, and going to the Filevolt tab and VO spacing on it. Once this 
>> loads, if you VO right, it will tell you whether Filevolt is on, and let you 
>> turn it off. It will say it is dimmed until you VO space on where it says 
>> “Click here to make changes.” Then, you put inn your password, and you can 
>> make the change.
>> Hope this helps,
>> Jeffrey
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2015, at 11:49 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> What are the specs on the iMac?  I’m guessing that it probably has a 
>>> spinning HD as opposed to the MBA’s Flash storage.  Flash storage has 
>>> considerably faster access than any spinning HD, especially if the spinning 
>>> HD is only 5400 RPM’s.  Depending on the model of the iMac, the default RAM 
>>> could be around 8 GB which should not exhibit choppy speech like you’ve 
>>> mentioned.  I use VO on some older iMacs when setting these machines up at 
>>> my work, and they are slower at starting, slower at logging in but once 
>>> everything in the background has finished doing its thing, VO works 
>>> normally.  Make sure that you have the checkbox unchecked to re-open 
>>> windows/applications when logging back in.  This box is visible when you go 
>>> to logout.  Also, make sure you don’t have any apps set to automatically 
>>> open as this can slow down the startup process as well.  There are enough 
>>> processes going on in the background as it is during startup and login that 
>>> make it feel slow that adding extra things simply prolong the wait.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Jan 14, 2015, at 20:29, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 As some of you may remember, my employer has purchased an iMac for me.  I 
 am sorry to say it, but I've been incredibly disappointed in the iMac.  I 
 had expected it to perform better than my MBA, but the opposite seems to 
 be the case.  It boots very slowly, and voiceover cuts in and out after 
 the boot process for a couple of minutes.  the wireless connectivity also 
 seems weaker than on my MBA.  It also seems more sluggish overall - apps 
 take longer to open, documents and websites take longer to load.  Long and 
 short, I'd never choose it over my MBA if it weren't my work computer.  
 I'm wondering if anyone else has observed similar behavior?  If so, any 
 strategies for troubleshooting?  I'm thinking of adding more memory, in 
 the hope that that will speed up the boot time and get rid of VO dragging.
 Cheers,
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Re: iMac versus MBA?

[Donna Goodin]

Done all this, Tiom.  But thanks for the suggestions. :)
Cheers,
Donna
> On Jan 14, 2015, at 10:49 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> What are the specs on the iMac?  I’m guessing that it probably has a spinning 
> HD as opposed to the MBA’s Flash storage.  Flash storage has considerably 
> faster access than any spinning HD, especially if the spinning HD is only 
> 5400 RPM’s.  Depending on the model of the iMac, the default RAM could be 
> around 8 GB which should not exhibit choppy speech like you’ve mentioned.  I 
> use VO on some older iMacs when setting these machines up at my work, and 
> they are slower at starting, slower at logging in but once everything in the 
> background has finished doing its thing, VO works normally.  Make sure that 
> you have the checkbox unchecked to re-open windows/applications when logging 
> back in.  This box is visible when you go to logout.  Also, make sure you 
> don’t have any apps set to automatically open as this can slow down the 
> startup process as well.  There are enough processes going on in the 
> background as it is during startup and login that make it feel slow that 
> adding extra things simply prolong the wait.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2015, at 20:29, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> As some of you may remember, my employer has purchased an iMac for me.  I am 
>> sorry to say it, but I've been incredibly disappointed in the iMac.  I had 
>> expected it to perform better than my MBA, but the opposite seems to be the 
>> case.  It boots very slowly, and voiceover cuts in and out after the boot 
>> process for a couple of minutes.  the wireless connectivity also seems 
>> weaker than on my MBA.  It also seems more sluggish overall - apps take 
>> longer to open, documents and websites take longer to load.  Long and short, 
>> I'd never choose it over my MBA if it weren't my work computer.  I'm 
>> wondering if anyone else has observed similar behavior?  If so, any 
>> strategies for troubleshooting?  I'm thinking of adding more memory, in the 
>> hope that that will speed up the boot time and get rid of VO dragging.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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Re: iMac versus MBA?

[Donna Goodin]

Drat!  Filevault is turned off, I was really hoping that was the problem.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Jan 15, 2015, at 1:11 AM, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I completely agree here. I’ve had this iMac here for a while now, and once 
> everything loads up, it’s pretty fast, and it’s one from a couple years ago 
> that only has 4 GB of RAM. One thing that could possibly be going on is 
> Spotlight could be indexing everything in the background still for the first 
> time, depending on how much stuff is on the drive.
> Also, making sure all updates to OS X and all apps are up-to-date will also 
> help.
> Another thing that may also help, is running a Repair Permissions scan on the 
> drive using Disc Utility.
> Also, if Filevolt is turned on, which it is by default now after a new 
> installation of Yosemite, then that could be the cause of the slowness and, 
> after turning Filevolt off, it will work much better. I’ve seen stuff like 
> this discussing Filevolt and system slowness at first before.
> You can turn this off by going into the Security and Privacy pane of System 
> Preferences, and going to the Filevolt tab and VO spacing on it. Once this 
> loads, if you VO right, it will tell you whether Filevolt is on, and let you 
> turn it off. It will say it is dimmed until you VO space on where it says 
> “Click here to make changes.” Then, you put inn your password, and you can 
> make the change.
> Hope this helps,
> Jeffrey
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2015, at 11:49 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> What are the specs on the iMac?  I’m guessing that it probably has a 
>> spinning HD as opposed to the MBA’s Flash storage.  Flash storage has 
>> considerably faster access than any spinning HD, especially if the spinning 
>> HD is only 5400 RPM’s.  Depending on the model of the iMac, the default RAM 
>> could be around 8 GB which should not exhibit choppy speech like you’ve 
>> mentioned.  I use VO on some older iMacs when setting these machines up at 
>> my work, and they are slower at starting, slower at logging in but once 
>> everything in the background has finished doing its thing, VO works 
>> normally.  Make sure that you have the checkbox unchecked to re-open 
>> windows/applications when logging back in.  This box is visible when you go 
>> to logout.  Also, make sure you don’t have any apps set to automatically 
>> open as this can slow down the startup process as well.  There are enough 
>> processes going on in the background as it is during startup and login that 
>> make it feel slow that adding extra things simply prolong the wait.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2015, at 20:29, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> As some of you may remember, my employer has purchased an iMac for me.  I 
>>> am sorry to say it, but I've been incredibly disappointed in the iMac.  I 
>>> had expected it to perform better than my MBA, but the opposite seems to be 
>>> the case.  It boots very slowly, and voiceover cuts in and out after the 
>>> boot process for a couple of minutes.  the wireless connectivity also seems 
>>> weaker than on my MBA.  It also seems more sluggish overall - apps take 
>>> longer to open, documents and websites take longer to load.  Long and 
>>> short, I'd never choose it over my MBA if it weren't my work computer.  I'm 
>>> wondering if anyone else has observed similar behavior?  If so, any 
>>> strategies for troubleshooting?  I'm thinking of adding more memory, in the 
>>> hope that that will speed up the boot time and get rid of VO dragging.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
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Re: iMac versus MBA?

[Donna Goodin]

Oops, never mind, I just saw the rest of your message.  Sorry and thanks!
Donna
> On Jan 15, 2015, at 1:11 AM, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I completely agree here. I’ve had this iMac here for a while now, and once 
> everything loads up, it’s pretty fast, and it’s one from a couple years ago 
> that only has 4 GB of RAM. One thing that could possibly be going on is 
> Spotlight could be indexing everything in the background still for the first 
> time, depending on how much stuff is on the drive.
> Also, making sure all updates to OS X and all apps are up-to-date will also 
> help.
> Another thing that may also help, is running a Repair Permissions scan on the 
> drive using Disc Utility.
> Also, if Filevolt is turned on, which it is by default now after a new 
> installation of Yosemite, then that could be the cause of the slowness and, 
> after turning Filevolt off, it will work much better. I’ve seen stuff like 
> this discussing Filevolt and system slowness at first before.
> You can turn this off by going into the Security and Privacy pane of System 
> Preferences, and going to the Filevolt tab and VO spacing on it. Once this 
> loads, if you VO right, it will tell you whether Filevolt is on, and let you 
> turn it off. It will say it is dimmed until you VO space on where it says 
> “Click here to make changes.” Then, you put inn your password, and you can 
> make the change.
> Hope this helps,
> Jeffrey
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2015, at 11:49 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> What are the specs on the iMac?  I’m guessing that it probably has a 
>> spinning HD as opposed to the MBA’s Flash storage.  Flash storage has 
>> considerably faster access than any spinning HD, especially if the spinning 
>> HD is only 5400 RPM’s.  Depending on the model of the iMac, the default RAM 
>> could be around 8 GB which should not exhibit choppy speech like you’ve 
>> mentioned.  I use VO on some older iMacs when setting these machines up at 
>> my work, and they are slower at starting, slower at logging in but once 
>> everything in the background has finished doing its thing, VO works 
>> normally.  Make sure that you have the checkbox unchecked to re-open 
>> windows/applications when logging back in.  This box is visible when you go 
>> to logout.  Also, make sure you don’t have any apps set to automatically 
>> open as this can slow down the startup process as well.  There are enough 
>> processes going on in the background as it is during startup and login that 
>> make it feel slow that adding extra things simply prolong the wait.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2015, at 20:29, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> As some of you may remember, my employer has purchased an iMac for me.  I 
>>> am sorry to say it, but I've been incredibly disappointed in the iMac.  I 
>>> had expected it to perform better than my MBA, but the opposite seems to be 
>>> the case.  It boots very slowly, and voiceover cuts in and out after the 
>>> boot process for a couple of minutes.  the wireless connectivity also seems 
>>> weaker than on my MBA.  It also seems more sluggish overall - apps take 
>>> longer to open, documents and websites take longer to load.  Long and 
>>> short, I'd never choose it over my MBA if it weren't my work computer.  I'm 
>>> wondering if anyone else has observed similar behavior?  If so, any 
>>> strategies for troubleshooting?  I'm thinking of adding more memory, in the 
>>> hope that that will speed up the boot time and get rid of VO dragging.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
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Re: iMac versus MBA?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Jeff,

Where is the option to disable Filevolt?
Thanks,
Donna
> On Jan 15, 2015, at 1:11 AM, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I completely agree here. I’ve had this iMac here for a while now, and once 
> everything loads up, it’s pretty fast, and it’s one from a couple years ago 
> that only has 4 GB of RAM. One thing that could possibly be going on is 
> Spotlight could be indexing everything in the background still for the first 
> time, depending on how much stuff is on the drive.
> Also, making sure all updates to OS X and all apps are up-to-date will also 
> help.
> Another thing that may also help, is running a Repair Permissions scan on the 
> drive using Disc Utility.
> Also, if Filevolt is turned on, which it is by default now after a new 
> installation of Yosemite, then that could be the cause of the slowness and, 
> after turning Filevolt off, it will work much better. I’ve seen stuff like 
> this discussing Filevolt and system slowness at first before.
> You can turn this off by going into the Security and Privacy pane of System 
> Preferences, and going to the Filevolt tab and VO spacing on it. Once this 
> loads, if you VO right, it will tell you whether Filevolt is on, and let you 
> turn it off. It will say it is dimmed until you VO space on where it says 
> “Click here to make changes.” Then, you put inn your password, and you can 
> make the change.
> Hope this helps,
> Jeffrey
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2015, at 11:49 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> What are the specs on the iMac?  I’m guessing that it probably has a 
>> spinning HD as opposed to the MBA’s Flash storage.  Flash storage has 
>> considerably faster access than any spinning HD, especially if the spinning 
>> HD is only 5400 RPM’s.  Depending on the model of the iMac, the default RAM 
>> could be around 8 GB which should not exhibit choppy speech like you’ve 
>> mentioned.  I use VO on some older iMacs when setting these machines up at 
>> my work, and they are slower at starting, slower at logging in but once 
>> everything in the background has finished doing its thing, VO works 
>> normally.  Make sure that you have the checkbox unchecked to re-open 
>> windows/applications when logging back in.  This box is visible when you go 
>> to logout.  Also, make sure you don’t have any apps set to automatically 
>> open as this can slow down the startup process as well.  There are enough 
>> processes going on in the background as it is during startup and login that 
>> make it feel slow that adding extra things simply prolong the wait.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2015, at 20:29, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> As some of you may remember, my employer has purchased an iMac for me.  I 
>>> am sorry to say it, but I've been incredibly disappointed in the iMac.  I 
>>> had expected it to perform better than my MBA, but the opposite seems to be 
>>> the case.  It boots very slowly, and voiceover cuts in and out after the 
>>> boot process for a couple of minutes.  the wireless connectivity also seems 
>>> weaker than on my MBA.  It also seems more sluggish overall - apps take 
>>> longer to open, documents and websites take longer to load.  Long and 
>>> short, I'd never choose it over my MBA if it weren't my work computer.  I'm 
>>> wondering if anyone else has observed similar behavior?  If so, any 
>>> strategies for troubleshooting?  I'm thinking of adding more memory, in the 
>>> hope that that will speed up the boot time and get rid of VO dragging.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
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RE: Sheet layout area in numbers

[george b]

Phill,

I think they change on which the last sheet you were working in goes to the 
first position in that order.  Check it and see

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On Behalf Of Phil Halton
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 17:32
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: Re: Sheet layout area in numbers

I think there is a basic misunderstanding here. I am referring to the order in 
which the table names appear in the sheet layout area. That is, when I interact 
with the slo, and then VO right arrow through the table names contained 
therein, their order changes, not the names themselves.
for example, in one sheet I have four tables named 
expenses, cash, income, reserve e.
They appear in that order when I interact and then VO arrow right.
then after doing some work in a table, the order may change to something other 
than that order, say,
cash, income, expenses, reserve
or some other random ordering.
I think that numbers is automatically shifting this ordering around to reflect 
some visual arrangement of the tables on the canvas that is changing due to 
changes made to the tables themselves, either their size or something.

Again, I think it has to do with numbers fitting these four tables on the 
canvas and shifting the ordering of the table names in the SLO to reflect that 
physical re-arrangement.

Just a guess though. I hope I’ve made the problem clear.
 . 
It’s just a nuisance, no data is lost or anything like that. It’s just that you 
get used to a certain arrangement and then it is changed for no apparent reason 
requiring different keystrokes to do your work.
  , 
> On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:08 PM, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Phil,
> 
> It doesn’t affect the table names. Table names are assigned based on when 
> they are created and are, in any event, changeable. The table names are not 
> based on or dependant upon their position in the sheet layout area. You can 
> have table 3 above table 1, etcetera.
> 
>> On 15 Jan 2015, at 2:56 am, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> thanks Nick,
>> I think I’ll just live with it. Evidently Numbers is auto arranging tables 
>> on the canvas as it thinks it is needed. I don’t know how that would impact 
>> the order of the table names  in the sheet layout area though. Not important 
>> enough for me to bother with now.
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2015, at 2:52 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Phil,
>>> 
>>> Not sure why this happens, but I suspect it has something to do with 
>>> changing the size of the table through altering the width of the columns, 
>>> numbers of rows etc. You can change the order of the tables by using the 
>>> “Arrange” tab of the format inspector. In particular, adjust the X and Y 
>>> position coordinates of the table and you will change where it appears on 
>>> the canvas. Take note of the size width and height values for the tables to 
>>> work out how best to layout your tables to ensure they don’t overlap. 
>>> Overlapping tables makes very little difference to VoiceOver users, except 
>>> perhaps when it comes to drag and drop columns or rows, but it of course 
>>> makes a big difference if you are ever going to show the spreadsheet to 
>>> sighted people.
>>> 
 On 13 Jan 2015, at 5:53 am, Phil Halton  wrote:
 
 I am encountering a situation in numbers (latest version) where the left 
 to right ordering of the tables in a given sheet are being altered by 
 numbers. It usually happens when I do some extensive work in a table or 
 when I create a new table. Also, this left to right ordering of the tables 
 in a sheet layout area is not able to be changed through drag n drop, or 
 other methods as far as I can tell.
 
 
 an example, with three tables in a sheet, t1, t2, t3, listed from left to 
 right in that order, then suddenly, without any apparent reason, the left 
 to right ordering of the sheet is t3, t1, t2, or some combination thereof.
 
 any experience with this problem? It isn’t a show-stopper, but you get 
 used to having your tables listed in a certain order in the sheet layout 
 area and suddenly the order is changed on you which tends to interrupt 
 work flow.
 
 
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RE: Tying contacts to calendar events?

[george b]

Yes it does the same if they do not use iCloud. I have a client who does this 
with me using Microsoft exchange and windows from their job.

 

You get a email and just activate the link and it opens a event in the calander 
and you can edit it and save

 

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Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 04:25
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tying contacts to calendar events?

 

Sounds good, but often, these people (clients I work with) aren't iCloud users, 
so an invitation wouldn't work. Perhaps just adding them to the location field 
will work well enough.

On Jan 15, 2015, at 6:42 AM, Nicholas Parsons mailto:mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

If the event is at the person’s house or work, you type their name in both the 
location and invitee fields. If the event is with the person but at some other 
location, you just type their name in the invitee field. Adding the person as 
an invitee means that person will receive an invitation to the event, and will 
receive updates if you change any event details such as time, date or location. 
It also gives you a handy button to send mail to invitees, and lists each 
invitee. If you tap on an invitee on the iOS Calendar app you see their contact 
details and can text or call them. Adding them to the location field means 
Calendar knows you will want to travel to their address, will let you know when 
you need to leave in order to reach their in time and shows you a map of the 
location of the event. So you can use both the location and invitee fields 
depending on exactly what you want to achieve.

 

On 15 Jan 2015, at 1:27 pm, Alex Hall mailto:mehg...@icloud.com> > wrote:

 

I assume you mean I should type the name in the Location field, not the 
Invitees field. If so, will that then know I'm meeting with John? That is, 
could I bring up his contact card and text or call him?

On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:21 PM, Nicholas Parsons mailto:mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Yes, absolutely. In the event inspector you can select add invitees. This 
allows you to add people from your contacts. If the event is taking place at 
John’s house, you can type, “John” in the location field, and Calendar will pop 
up suggestions of places you might mean. You can navigate between the 
suggestions using the up and down arrows with QuickNav turned off. One of the 
suggestions will be “John’s Home” or “John’s Work”, if you have those addresses 
in contacts. You press return on the one you want and it will insert the 
address. It will then know where you are going for that event, will calculate 
the travel time for you and can alert you when it’s time to leave your current 
location etcetera.

 

On 15 Jan 2015, at 8:13 am, Alex Hall mailto:mehg...@icloud.com> > wrote:

 

Hi all,

I have a question about calendar events: can I somehow tie contacts to them? 
For instance, if I have John in my contacts and I set up an event for next 
week, which is a meeting with John, can I tell that event which John I mean? 
That way, as I'm looking at the event, I could contact John directly, look up 
his address as I'm heading over, that kind of thing? I'm not talking about 
inviting people, I mean indicating to the Calendar app that this event will 
take place with a particular contact, so I can then quickly access that contact 
from the event. Thanks, and I hope I'm making sense.


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Re: iMac versus MBA?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

Thanks for all the great advice about the iMac.  I have no external drives 
attached, but I am not using Alex.  It's weird, that does seem to mess things 
up, and I don't get that either.  It's not a problem on my MBA.  I had meant to 
check how much RAM it has before I signed out yesterday, I'll definitely do 
that this morning.  I think it has either 4 or 8, so I'd been thinking about 
having it upgraded to 16.  I will do a repair permissions as well, I had 
thought about that but then forgot later. 

thanks, Jeff, for the FileVault tip  That was one I hadn't thought of at all, 
because I've never used it.  I'll make sure it's turned off.

Again, thanks everyone, these are some great tips.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Jan 15, 2015, at 5:05 AM, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
> I am using an iMac from 2011 and if you have ever listened to any of my 
> Podcasts you should be able to hear that it is a pretty fast machine.
> 
> However back in 2011 I invested in a 256GB solid state drive and 16 GB of 
> ram. I have never regretted doing this.
> 
> If your machine is of an even a more recent spec and not performing then 
> there may be something else wrong.
> The biggest factors in slowing Voiceover down for me are
> 1. Not using Alex as default voice creates problems.
> 2. I have learnt not to use activities.
> 3. The number of external drives I have attached makes a difference.  If 
> these multiply then the time the Mac takes to boot increases a lot, 
> especially if they are slow big drives.
> 4. Permissions repair and using clean my Mac also seems to speed up matters.
> 
> Generally I would have a look at what is being loaded at start up to see if 
> what is being loaded and take out anything you do not need.
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> On 15/01/2015 03:29, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> As some of you may remember, my employer has purchased an iMac for me.  I am 
>> sorry to say it, but I've been incredibly disappointed in the iMac.  I had 
>> expected it to perform better than my MBA, but the opposite seems to be the 
>> case.  It boots very slowly, and voiceover cuts in and out after the boot 
>> process for a couple of minutes.  the wireless connectivity also seems 
>> weaker than on my MBA.  It also seems more sluggish overall - apps take 
>> longer to open, documents and websites take longer to load.  Long and short, 
>> I'd never choose it over my MBA if it weren't my work computer.  I'm 
>> wondering if anyone else has observed similar behavior?  If so, any 
>> strategies for troubleshooting?  I'm thinking of adding more memory, in the 
>> hope that that will speed up the boot time and get rid of VO dragging.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
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Re: Tying contacts to calendar events?

[Alex Hall]

Sounds good, but often, these people (clients I work with) aren't iCloud users, 
so an invitation wouldn't work. Perhaps just adding them to the location field 
will work well enough.
> On Jan 15, 2015, at 6:42 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
> If the event is at the person’s house or work, you type their name in both 
> the location and invitee fields. If the event is with the person but at some 
> other location, you just type their name in the invitee field. Adding the 
> person as an invitee means that person will receive an invitation to the 
> event, and will receive updates if you change any event details such as time, 
> date or location. It also gives you a handy button to send mail to invitees, 
> and lists each invitee. If you tap on an invitee on the iOS Calendar app you 
> see their contact details and can text or call them. Adding them to the 
> location field means Calendar knows you will want to travel to their address, 
> will let you know when you need to leave in order to reach their in time and 
> shows you a map of the location of the event. So you can use both the 
> location and invitee fields depending on exactly what you want to achieve.
> 
>> On 15 Jan 2015, at 1:27 pm, Alex Hall > > wrote:
>> 
>> I assume you mean I should type the name in the Location field, not the 
>> Invitees field. If so, will that then know I'm meeting with John? That is, 
>> could I bring up his contact card and text or call him?
>>> On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:21 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>> mailto:mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, absolutely. In the event inspector you can select add invitees. This 
>>> allows you to add people from your contacts. If the event is taking place 
>>> at John’s house, you can type, “John” in the location field, and Calendar 
>>> will pop up suggestions of places you might mean. You can navigate between 
>>> the suggestions using the up and down arrows with QuickNav turned off. One 
>>> of the suggestions will be “John’s Home” or “John’s Work”, if you have 
>>> those addresses in contacts. You press return on the one you want and it 
>>> will insert the address. It will then know where you are going for that 
>>> event, will calculate the travel time for you and can alert you when it’s 
>>> time to leave your current location etcetera.
>>> 
 On 15 Jan 2015, at 8:13 am, Alex Hall >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I have a question about calendar events: can I somehow tie contacts to 
 them? For instance, if I have John in my contacts and I set up an event 
 for next week, which is a meeting with John, can I tell that event which 
 John I mean? That way, as I'm looking at the event, I could contact John 
 directly, look up his address as I'm heading over, that kind of thing? I'm 
 not talking about inviting people, I mean indicating to the Calendar app 
 that this event will take place with a particular contact, so I can then 
 quickly access that contact from the event. Thanks, and I hope I'm making 
 sense.
 
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Re: Sorting Data in Numbers

[Nicholas Parsons]

And of course once you open the context menu one of the first few options is 
“Sort ascending”, and the next is “Sort Descending”. Those are for sorting 
rather than filtering. You do not need the submenu for the sorting options, 
only the filtering options. Sorry if that explanation was not needed, just 
thought I’d add it so it’s clear for anyone that’s interested.

> On 11 Jan 2015, at 4:26 am, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
> 
> OK, thanks for your answer. That was very clear to me. Now I’m able to figure 
> out more.
> All the best
> Jürgen
> 
>> Am 10.01.2015 um 15:55 schrieb Phil Halton > >:
>> 
>> Yes, VO does not always speak the initial list of row/column headers when 
>> you first enter the headers. But, arrowing up or down will speak either row 
>> or column header. anyway, once you have your desired column selected and 
>> have brought up the context menu, you have those sort and filter options as 
>> you said. The context menu entry called “sort and filter options” is just a 
>> heading for options that are listed below it. 
>> Below sort and filter options you will find “filter table” which is a 
>> submenu. in that submenu, you will find a listing of all the unique data 
>> found in the selected column. If you press VO spacebar, or enter on any of 
>> these entries, Numbers will filter the table showing only those rows that 
>> contain the filtered data item.
>> For example, a table with a column containing  the name of the month could 
>> be filtered to show only “January” entries.
>> This is a shortcut method of filtering the table which can also be done in 
>> the sort and filter inspector, where you can specify more sophisticated 
>> filter rules.
>> Check out the sort inspector after you do this shortcut filtering method and 
>> you’ll see that numbers created a rule to produce the filter you selected in 
>> the context menu. You can add to it, modify the rule, or delete all or part 
>> of it etc.
>> It’s important to know that once you’ve filtered a table, you can’t use the 
>> VO arrow keys. you have to use the arrow keys by themselves to see the 
>> filtered table rows/columns. If you use the VO arrow keys, Numbers will show 
>> you the unfiltered table entries along with the desired filtered data.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>   
>> 
>>> On Jan 10, 2015, at 5:13 AM, Jürgen Fleger >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Phil,
>>> 
>>> I didn’t want to dought your instructions. I’m sorry if I raised this 
>>> impression. I find it very useful if people take the time to answer very 
>>> detailed. Thanks for that. And I agree, to assume people know to press 
>>> Enter is something you can expect.
>>> 
>>> What I find confusing:
>>> 1. My VO doesn’t anounces wether the column is highlighted or not.
>>> 2. After choosing a column I can open a context menue. There’s an entry 
>>> called something like „Sorting and filter options“. I translated this entry 
>>> name from german and so it might be a little bit different in your context 
>>> menue. If I press on this entry nothing happens. Do you know something 
>>> about this functionality?
>>> 
>>> All the best
>>> Jürgen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 Am 09.01.2015 um 15:59 schrieb Phil Halton >>> >:
 
 Yes, I use V3.5 (2019). I don’t know what your question is, all I said was 
 that you could sort up or down (high or low or whatever you want to call 
 it). I detailed the method I use for sorting table rows using a specific 
 column as the sort key. I also showed how I sort subsets of rows and 
 columns. You can also use multiple sort keys. So, what method are you 
 saying doesn’t seem to work? Did you forget to press enter or VO space on 
 the header selections? You know after entering the headers and arrowing 
 down to either row or column headers, did you first press enter before 
 trying to arrow right or left to the specific column header to use? It’s 
 the only thing I can think of that you might have not done. I re-read my 
 message and that’s the only thing I left out. I just assumed people knew 
 that sort of thing.
  
 
 
> On Jan 9, 2015, at 4:36 AM, Jürgen Fleger  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Phil,
> did you try this method in Numbers version 3.5 (2109)? I’mnot quite sure 
> but it seems not really to work that way anymore. All I can do is sorting 
> up or down. But if you could try it out and tell wether it worked still 
> for you in this version of Numbers it would be a motivation for me to 
> play around a little more.
> Thanks and 
> all the best
> Jürgen
> 
>  
>> Am 08.01.2015 um 21:51 schrieb Phil Halton > >:
>> 
>> In numbers, I sort table rows/columns by the following method. I don’t 
>> know if this will work the same with a selection, but it might. A little 
>> experimentation will tell the t

Re: Sheet layout area in numbers

[Nicholas Parsons]

Yep, I understand. I have seen that happen once, and I think only once, for me, 
and I use spreadsheets regularly with multiple tables and multiple sheets. I’m 
not sure of anything you can do to prevent it. You can, however, fix it once it 
does occur, using the arrangement tab of the format inspector. However, if it’s 
happening regularly to you I can understand that rearranging the tables is 
probably more effort than getting use to the new layout.

One thing that might be worth trying is to ensure the tables aren’t overlapping 
originally. Perhaps if they’re overlapping in the first place, doing something 
to them might cause Numbers to rearrange them to make them no longer 
overlapping. If you arrange them so that they’re not overlapping and not likely 
to overlap, then you might avoid the reordering from occurring.


> On 15 Jan 2015, at 12:31 pm, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> I think there is a basic misunderstanding here. I am referring to the order 
> in which the table names appear in the sheet layout area. That is, when I 
> interact with the slo, and then VO right arrow through the table names 
> contained therein, their order changes, not the names themselves.
> for example, in one sheet I have four tables named 
> expenses, cash, income, reserve e.
> They appear in that order when I interact and then VO arrow right.
> then after doing some work in a table, the order may change to something 
> other than that order, say,
> cash, income, expenses, reserve
> or some other random ordering.
> I think that numbers is automatically shifting this ordering around to 
> reflect some visual arrangement of the tables on the canvas that is changing 
> due to changes made to the tables themselves, either their size or something.
> 
> Again, I think it has to do with numbers fitting these four tables on the 
> canvas and shifting the ordering of the table names in the SLO to reflect 
> that physical re-arrangement.
> 
> Just a guess though. I hope I’ve made the problem clear.
> . 
> It’s just a nuisance, no data is lost or anything like that. It’s just that 
> you get used to a certain arrangement and then it is changed for no apparent 
> reason requiring different keystrokes to do your work.
>  , 
>> On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:08 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Phil,
>> 
>> It doesn’t affect the table names. Table names are assigned based on when 
>> they are created and are, in any event, changeable. The table names are not 
>> based on or dependant upon their position in the sheet layout area. You can 
>> have table 3 above table 1, etcetera.
>> 
>>> On 15 Jan 2015, at 2:56 am, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> thanks Nick,
>>> I think I’ll just live with it. Evidently Numbers is auto arranging tables 
>>> on the canvas as it thinks it is needed. I don’t know how that would impact 
>>> the order of the table names  in the sheet layout area though. Not 
>>> important enough for me to bother with now.
>>> 
 On Jan 14, 2015, at 2:52 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
  wrote:
 
 Hi Phil,
 
 Not sure why this happens, but I suspect it has something to do with 
 changing the size of the table through altering the width of the columns, 
 numbers of rows etc. You can change the order of the tables by using the 
 “Arrange” tab of the format inspector. In particular, adjust the X and Y 
 position coordinates of the table and you will change where it appears on 
 the canvas. Take note of the size width and height values for the tables 
 to work out how best to layout your tables to ensure they don’t overlap. 
 Overlapping tables makes very little difference to VoiceOver users, except 
 perhaps when it comes to drag and drop columns or rows, but it of course 
 makes a big difference if you are ever going to show the spreadsheet to 
 sighted people.
 
> On 13 Jan 2015, at 5:53 am, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> I am encountering a situation in numbers (latest version) where the left 
> to right ordering of the tables in a given sheet are being altered by 
> numbers. It usually happens when I do some extensive work in a table or 
> when I create a new table. Also, this left to right ordering of the 
> tables in a sheet layout area is not able to be changed through drag n 
> drop, or other methods as far as I can tell.
> 
> 
> an example, with three tables in a sheet, t1, t2, t3, listed from left to 
> right in that order, then suddenly, without any apparent reason, the left 
> to right ordering of the sheet is t3, t1, t2, or some combination thereof.
> 
> any experience with this problem? It isn’t a show-stopper, but you get 
> used to having your tables listed in a certain order in the sheet layout 
> area and suddenly the order is changed on you which tends to interrupt 
> work flow.
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Re: Tying contacts to calendar events?

[Nicholas Parsons]

If the event is at the person’s house or work, you type their name in both the 
location and invitee fields. If the event is with the person but at some other 
location, you just type their name in the invitee field. Adding the person as 
an invitee means that person will receive an invitation to the event, and will 
receive updates if you change any event details such as time, date or location. 
It also gives you a handy button to send mail to invitees, and lists each 
invitee. If you tap on an invitee on the iOS Calendar app you see their contact 
details and can text or call them. Adding them to the location field means 
Calendar knows you will want to travel to their address, will let you know when 
you need to leave in order to reach their in time and shows you a map of the 
location of the event. So you can use both the location and invitee fields 
depending on exactly what you want to achieve.

> On 15 Jan 2015, at 1:27 pm, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> I assume you mean I should type the name in the Location field, not the 
> Invitees field. If so, will that then know I'm meeting with John? That is, 
> could I bring up his contact card and text or call him?
>> On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:21 PM, Nicholas Parsons > > wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, absolutely. In the event inspector you can select add invitees. This 
>> allows you to add people from your contacts. If the event is taking place at 
>> John’s house, you can type, “John” in the location field, and Calendar will 
>> pop up suggestions of places you might mean. You can navigate between the 
>> suggestions using the up and down arrows with QuickNav turned off. One of 
>> the suggestions will be “John’s Home” or “John’s Work”, if you have those 
>> addresses in contacts. You press return on the one you want and it will 
>> insert the address. It will then know where you are going for that event, 
>> will calculate the travel time for you and can alert you when it’s time to 
>> leave your current location etcetera.
>> 
>>> On 15 Jan 2015, at 8:13 am, Alex Hall >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I have a question about calendar events: can I somehow tie contacts to 
>>> them? For instance, if I have John in my contacts and I set up an event for 
>>> next week, which is a meeting with John, can I tell that event which John I 
>>> mean? That way, as I'm looking at the event, I could contact John directly, 
>>> look up his address as I'm heading over, that kind of thing? I'm not 
>>> talking about inviting people, I mean indicating to the Calendar app that 
>>> this event will take place with a particular contact, so I can then quickly 
>>> access that contact from the event. Thanks, and I hope I'm making sense.
>>> 
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Re: iMac versus MBA?

[David Griffith]

I am using an iMac from 2011 and if you have ever listened to any of my 
Podcasts you should be able to hear that it is a pretty fast machine.


However back in 2011 I invested in a 256GB solid state drive and 16 GB 
of ram. I have never regretted doing this.


If your machine is of an even a more recent spec and not performing then 
there may be something else wrong.

The biggest factors in slowing Voiceover down for me are
1. Not using Alex as default voice creates problems.
2. I have learnt not to use activities.
3. The number of external drives I have attached makes a difference.  If 
these multiply then the time the Mac takes to boot increases a lot, 
especially if they are slow big drives.

4. Permissions repair and using clean my Mac also seems to speed up matters.

Generally I would have a look at what is being loaded at start up to see 
if what is being loaded and take out anything you do not need.


David Griffith

On 15/01/2015 03:29, Donna Goodin wrote:

Hi all,

As some of you may remember, my employer has purchased an iMac for me.  I am 
sorry to say it, but I've been incredibly disappointed in the iMac.  I had 
expected it to perform better than my MBA, but the opposite seems to be the 
case.  It boots very slowly, and voiceover cuts in and out after the boot 
process for a couple of minutes.  the wireless connectivity also seems weaker 
than on my MBA.  It also seems more sluggish overall - apps take longer to 
open, documents and websites take longer to load.  Long and short, I'd never 
choose it over my MBA if it weren't my work computer.  I'm wondering if anyone 
else has observed similar behavior?  If so, any strategies for troubleshooting? 
 I'm thinking of adding more memory, in the hope that that will speed up the 
boot time and get rid of VO dragging.
Cheers,
Donna



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