Re: Windows 10 push

[E.T.]

   I didn't actually get upgraded. I got annoyed when Windows Update 
appeared to be stuck with this. So googled it.


   First, Microsoft sneaked it in a couple months ago as an optional 
item with the name Update for Windows 7 and a kb number. This installs 
the gwx aoolet which waits for you to press that button on the update 
page. Until you do, you cannot check for other updates.


   Here is a link to what I found today about what is expected next year.



   Maybe by that time I will wean myself off Windows completely and 
uninstall Bootcamp.


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On 10/31/2015 7:52 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello E.T.,

I am so sorry you experienced that.  It must have been extremely frustrating.

All I can say is that no one with whom I interact, locally, has been forced to 
upgrade to Windows 10.

While I am a huge fan of Windows 10, generally speaking, I recommend upgrading 
only to those running Windows 8.x.

I strongly suspect, and this is only a supposition on my part, that you had 
some kind of nefarious app forcing you to upgrade.

That is to say, a colleague of a friend of mine in Texas, experienced a similar 
phenomenon; as it turned out, her copy of Windows had been compromised.  I do 
not know if she was running Windows on a Boot Camp partition or not but I do 
recall that the problem did not stem from the native Windows OS.

Can you imagine how the world would react were Microsoft to force people to 
upgrade?

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 6:39 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Windows 10 push

 Let me put it like this. While that is probably true, Microsoft infected 
my Windows installation on the Mac by trying to get me to let them put Windows 
10 on it. I could not in any way get past it and could not get other Windows 
updates. I do not know what their game is, why they cannot let people decide.

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On 10/31/2015 6:32 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:

I thought Windows 7 wasn't gonna be totally phased out until 2020. Is this not 
true?

Shawn
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On Oct 31, 2015, at 5:25 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Some of you may have put Windows 10 on your Macs under Bootcamp. I am 
curious if there were major issues going from Windows 7.

I am asking because Microsoft is going to make this happen one way or 
another next year, with or without your consent. They already started the first 
stage last month pushing this upgrade via Windows Update.

How is Bootcamp handling this?

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Re: transferring folders from windows

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

are you using a flash drive?
> Il giorno 31 ott 2015, alle ore 7:05 PM, Marie Lyons  ha 
> scritto:
> 
> I have been slowly transferring documents from my pc to iMac. I have run into 
> difficulty when it’s a folder with multiple documents inside.  I can’t figure 
> to save the whole folder as one unit.  Any help appreciated.
> 
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Bizarre observation with screen saver

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Guys,

This is about to drive me up the wall!  I have a macbook running 10.11.1 El 
Capitan.  I have gone into the energy saver preferences and have made sure to 
tell the mac not to ever go to sleep, and have also set the screen not to dim 
on AC, nor on battery, etc.  Some of you may say that was really stupid a me!  
That's a real good way to ruin my mac quickly.  I'm not here to argue that one 
way or another.  My point is, I also have gone under the desktop and screen 
saver settings, and have set the screen saver to never activate.  The weird 
thing is, after about 30 minutes of no activity, it still keeps coming on.  Try 
as I may I can't get the stupid thing to deactivate!  I've checked every single 
setting that I know under the sun to look at.  Everything appears to be set 
correctly.  My other macbook which also is running El Capitan 10.11.1 is not 
having this problem that I can tell.  Neither is my mac mini.  OK, granted, the 
mini is not on 10.11.  It's only on Yosemite 10.10.5, but, still.

Does anyone know what the heck might be going on here?  This is about to make 
me scream!  Which I guess, wouldn't be such a bad thing, considerring what day 
it is.  LOL!  Just kidding.  Seriously though, any ideas?

Chris.

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Re: Read all key strokes on the MAC

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

VO A to start reading from the cursor, VO B to start reading from the beginning.
> Il giorno 31 ott 2015, alle ore 11:10 PM, Eileen Scrivani 
>  ha scritto:
> 
> If you have a track pad, like I have on my Mac Book Pro, you can start 
> reading with a 2-finger swipe down.  Then just tap the control key to stop it 
> reading or tap control again to start it up.  It will only start again if you 
> just pause and don’t do something or go somewhere else on the computer.
>  
> HTH.
>  
> Eileen
>  
>  
> From: percygarrett 
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 5:10 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Read all key strokes on the MAC
>  
> Hello,what are the commands to read all text on the MAC? On a windows 
> computer, I use the insert and down arrow keys. Thanks in advance!
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" 
> To: "Macvisionaries" 
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 5:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Bowers and Wilkins Zeppelin Air.
> 
> 
> >I have certainly used the Zeppelin Air but may be not the one you speak of.
> >
> > Very easy to download the Control app from the app store and install the 
> > Zeppelin Air by following the onscreen instructions.  I will have a look 
> > at this new product as I loved the airplay speaker.
> >
> > Many thanks.
> >
> > Kawal.
> >> On 31 Oct 2015, at 16:25, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi guys,
> >>
> >> Considering the BW Zeppelin Air for a new audio system.
> >>
> >> Does anyone have experience with these speakers?
> >>
> >> Any feedback on set up etc would be appreciated.
> >>
> >> Yours truly,
> >>
> >> Sadam Ahmed
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Re: Uh, guys? We've got a problem with KNFB Reader for I O S.

[Shen]

Not for me, no problems here. Just go to Settings and change the rate to your 
desire.
Mine has been set to 40 percent and stays that way.
Maybe the trick is to change it before start scanning.


> On Oct 23, 2015, at 7:09 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Not so much a setting, but when you moved that slider, it held.  You never 
> had to move it again, unless you wanted to.  Not even if you closed the app 
> down.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "M. Taylor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 10:34 PM
> Subject: RE: Uh, guys? We've got a problem with KNFB Reader for I O S.
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I, too, am experiencing this problem.
> 
> The thing is, I don't see how to set a new default speech rate.  If such a 
> mechanism exists, then we'd be in business.
> 
> Was it possible to set a new speech rate previously?
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamie Pauls
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Uh, guys? We've got a problem with KNFB Reader for I O S.
> 
> It's actually 20% and it seems to reset itself each time. I'm calling this a 
> major bug.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:06 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
>> 
>> Guys, we have a problem.
>> 
>> I just opened up the KNFB Reader app on my IPhone 6S, and went to scan a 
>> document.  The scan was fine, considering the content I was scanning, 
>> however the female voice that reads the material was obviously on Ambian or 
>> something, as she was so darn slow that it wasn't funny!  Put your Iphone to 
>> about 10% speaking rate... there you pretty much have it.
>> 
>> How in the world do I adjust this?
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
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Re: Calibrating The iPhone Battery

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

The battery doesn’t need calibrating; sensors in the battery never allow them 
to overcharge.  The reason you want to run the discharge/recharge routine is 
simply that the battery gauge, which measures the output power of the battery 
in order to determine its level and times the progressive discharging to 
estimate the amount of charge remaining, can be misled by various conditions.  
This is especially noticeable if you’ve recently had a new battery installed, 
but it also happens as a result of external factors like temperature or 
software factors like sudden changes in demand on the battery that lead to 
meaningless or corrupted timing estimations.  And, although I’d argue that 
recalibration is up there on the same scale as resetting the PRAM for 
effectiveness, there’s no doubt that it can be helpful; I only recently had to 
recalibrate the gauge in my BrailleNote Apex after replacing its battery.  
Lithium-ion, since you asked.

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Re: is there an easy way to change email the list is sent to?

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You have to use Google’s terrible web interface.  Sign in to your Google 
account and find your profile and the associated email addresses.  When you 
tell Google about your new address, you can then choose in the Google Groups 
preferences for each group where you want your email to go.  I’ve done this 
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Re: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Mark,

The bigger picture would be that more and more apps will become broken if we 
don’t speak out. Primarily if should upgrades brake accessibility then you 
should get a note to the developers You should also leave a review and rating 
so that other members of the blind community don’t waste their money.

Gena

> On 31 Oct 2015, at 02:32, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Hello All,
> 
> I am cross-posting this to both V iPhone and Mac Visionaries.
> 
> NOTE 1:
> This document assume that you do not use the automatic app update feature on
> your iOS device.
> 
> NOTE 2:
> The following applies to those who use an iOS device in conjunction with
> iTunes on a computer, only.
> 
> As we have all experienced, there are times when updates to an app can break
> VoiceOver accessibility.
> 
> In iOS 8.x and earlier, assuming that one had previously synchronized with
> iTunes on a computer, if an update broke accessibility for a particular app,
> one could simply delete the newly updated copy of the app from the iOS
> device and then, connect the device to the computer and install the older
> version of the app, back to the iOS device.
> 
> This was possible because in iOS 8.x and earlier, assuming app WiFi syncing
> was not enabled, the synchronization process included copying any newly
> downloaded app from the iOS device into the iTunes Library located on the
> computer.  
> 
> As of iOS 9.x, the synchronization process between the iOS device and the
> computer, no longer includes copying apps from the device to the computer.  
> 
> For those of us who rely on VoiceOver accessibility, this new process means
> that should an updated app break VoiceOver access, we can no longer restore
> an earlier version of the app using the same time-tested method as we have
> all come to enjoy.
> 
> Before I continue, I urge all of you to please contact Apple and express how
> significant this change in the synchronization process affects those of us
> who are blind or low vision.
> 
> The good news is that there is a simple workaround, so to speak, available
> to those of us who want to insure that we always have an accessible copy of
> an app.  
> 
> Just update the app in iTunes before connecting the iOS device.  Updating
> apps, in iTunes on the computer, actually downloads a full copy of the app
> in the .IPA format which, just as always, can be copied to any authorized
> iOS compatible device.  
> 
> Confused?  Don't be; the following example should help clarify the process:
> 
> [BEGIN EXAMPLE]
> DAY ONE:
> 
> 1.
> You're very happy with all of your currently installed apps.  Your favorite
> app is the Candle Shore BLOG.com app and you don't want to lose VoiceOver
> accessibility to it, should it be updated.
> 
> 2.
> You want to make certain that you have a full copy of this accessible
> version of the app on your computer, just in case any future updates break
> its accessibility.
> 
> 3.
> On your computer, you open iTunes and navigate to the Apps area.  You locate
> the Candle Shore BLOG.com app and, Click the Update button.  This will
> update a full copy of the app on your computer to the same version that is
> currently on your iOS device.  Remember, you will only do this if you like
> the current version that is on your iOS device.  Because you like to plan
> for worse case scenarios, you decide to perform such an update for all of
> your mission-critical apps like those having to do with banking, GPS
> navigation, etc.
> 
> DAY TWO:
> 
> 1.
> Upon checking the App Store, on your iOS device, you discover that there is
> an update to the Candle Shore BLOG.com app.  
> 
> 2.
> You update the app and discover, to your dismay, that VoiceOver
> accessibility has been broken.
> 
> 3.
> You immediately delete the app from your iOS device.
> 
> 4.
> Now, you connect the iOS device to your computer and, from within iTunes,
> you install the older, accessible, copy of the app, back to the iOS device,
> just as you would have done in iOS 8.x.
> [END EXAMPLE]
> 
> The bottom line is that if you are currently running iOS 9.x or later, you
> should manually update any important apps, on your computer, now, before any
> future updates break them.
> 
> Mark
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Re: Airplane gone from the control center on my iPhone 6s

[David Chittenden]

On my devices, airplay only shows when an available airplay device is in range, 
or if bluetooth, is paired with the device.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Sent from my iPhone

> On 31 Oct 2015, at 17:10, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Sorry for all this cross posting, but I really would like to find a solution 
> for this. I have an iPhone 6 s running iOS 9.1. When I go into control center 
> and try to find airplay, it is gone. In the flick order, it should come right 
> after AirDrop. But I have AirDrop followed by flashlight. In my iPad mini 
> running the same version of iOS, airplane is present where it should be. I 
> have tried restarting the phone to no avail. Any other suggestions? Can I 
> find airplay somewhere else? I was trying to use it with the music app.
> Mary
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Re: Does music purchased on iTunes store on the phone automatically go to my mac?

[David Chittenden]

You can set iTunes on the Mac to automatically download any songs, apps, or 
movies which are purchased through iTunes / app store on the iOS device. I do 
not currently have my Mac running, so cannot provide instructions at present.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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> On 31 Oct 2015, at 13:16, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> I think the answer to this question is probably know, but I thought I would 
> ask anyway. I generally try to avoid buying music using my phone. But, I just 
> bought some stuff using the Russian keyboard on my phone and now I'm 
> wondering how I'm going to get that into my iTunes library on the Mac. I do 
> have iTunes match also. And I do not have anything in my library that is not 
> something I purchased or ripped. Should I suppose that the things I bought 
> are going to show up on my mac? Or do I have to transfer the purchases using 
> iTunes on the Mac?
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Re: Airplane gone from the control center on my iPhone 6s

[Mary Otten]

I have several airplay enabled devices. I have a stereo upstairs with an 
airport express and the stereo downstairs with the same. We also have a second 
generation Apple TV. So there are plenty of devices to pick from. Maybe having 
to have a Bluetooth earpiece connected is the solution, but that is really 
really stupid. And why would it not require that on the iPad? Why would the 
iPhone be different from an iPad running the same OS?
 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 3:00 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
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> On my devices, airplay only shows when an available airplay device is in 
> range, or if bluetooth, is paired with the device.
> 
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>> On 31 Oct 2015, at 17:10, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry for all this cross posting, but I really would like to find a solution 
>> for this. I have an iPhone 6 s running iOS 9.1. When I go into control 
>> center and try to find airplay, it is gone. In the flick order, it should 
>> come right after AirDrop. But I have AirDrop followed by flashlight. In my 
>> iPad mini running the same version of iOS, airplane is present where it 
>> should be. I have tried restarting the phone to no avail. Any other 
>> suggestions? Can I find airplay somewhere else? I was trying to use it with 
>> the music app.
>> Mary
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seeking a moderater contact.

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi there,
I have an  apple item I wish to sell.  i understood from a prior posting 
one must get permission.

So, could one of the mods please write me privately?
Thanks,

iPhone airplay problem solved

[Mary Otten]

Well, one of the things you have to do when you send out a message to several 
lists with a  problem is send out your solution, even though it makes you look 
really, really stupid. I figured out the problem to my disappearing airplay, 
thanks to a comment from someone on one of these lists that mentioned that her 
airplay disappeared if she did not have her Bluetooth device connected.
I connected a Bluetooth speaker I have and found an airplay came back. When I 
went into airplay, I discovered that none of my airport expresses was listed, 
which seemed strange. The reason for that was that my phone happened to have 
been connected to the other wireless network in this house. We have two. And my 
phone was on the one where the airport expresses or not. So of course, it 
didn't see them. I will be deleting that particular network from the phones 
network settings. Oh brother!
Mary


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All in one printer/scanner/copier

[Jim Gatteys]

Hi all!
I guess the subject says it all but I am in the market for a new black and 
white laser printer and was wondering about getting one of those all in one 
printer/scanner/copier beasts.  My scanner is 15 years old it is an epson 1660 
and I just wondered if anybody had experience with one of these all in ones.  
Also, what about accessibility with mac drivers?  I guess wireless would be 
nice so it would work from either mac or iPhone.
I'd appreciate any info or experience out there.
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transferring folders from windows

[Marie Lyons]

I have been slowly transferring documents from my pc to iMac. I have run into 
difficulty when it’s a folder with multiple documents inside.  I can’t figure 
to save the whole folder as one unit.  Any help appreciated.

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Re: All in one printer/scanner/copier

[Scott Berry]

Hi Jim,

I suggest that you may want to go with the Epson printers.  They now have one 
which handles ink cartridges for two years.  I have a Workforce 2530 and once 
you learn the buttons it’s not bad but entering in the wireless you almost need 
someone sighted.  I am uncertain what printers are really easy to use.  I have 
a friend in Minnesota I’ll ask him if he is not on here and see what he 
recommends.


> On Oct 31, 2015, at 11:51 AM, Jim Gatteys  wrote:
> 
> Hi all!
> I guess the subject says it all but I am in the market for a new black and 
> white laser printer and was wondering about getting one of those all in one 
> printer/scanner/copier beasts.  My scanner is 15 years old it is an epson 
> 1660 and I just wondered if anybody had experience with one of these all in 
> ones.  Also, what about accessibility with mac drivers?  I guess wireless 
> would be nice so it would work from either mac or iPhone.
> I'd appreciate any info or experience out there.
> Jim
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Re: Current build of El Capitan.

[Anne Robertson]

Hello,


> On 31 Oct 2015, at 14:33, Singing Sparrow  wrote:
> 
> From what a person at apple accessibility told me that the 10.11.1 release 
> has fixed all of the voiceover bugs.
Clearly, that was someone who knows nothing about computers. There are always 
bugs, and there are still irritating ones in El Capitán. I would ask that Apple 
Accessibility person to try working with Pages or Numbers and then say that all 
the bugs are fixed.

Cheers,

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Re: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

To be honest, I appreciate the new mode of working.  And, since getting refunds 
has been getting harder and harder, I’m restraining my impulse purchases 
accordingly.  Since you can only get apps from Apple, make Apple do the work of 
maintaining your preferred list of apps; hide any purchase you no longer need 
in iTunes from your purchases list.  Now you can use the App Store from the 
device, and only the device, to get your apps; delete any app stored on your 
computer, turn off app downloads on iTunes, and simply never buy anything that 
isn’t confirmed accessible or from a vendor who cares about accessibility.  
That will have to do, until Apple steps up to the plate and delivers a genuine 
commitment to VoiceOver users for apps downloaded from the store.  And you’ll 
spend less money too, as well as being thoroughly liberated from all that 
syncing bollocks.

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Re: Current build of El Capitan.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I don't know about fixing *all!* of them, I think that's a pretty bold thing 
for them to say.  there's always, be it accessibility or not, room for 
improvement.  No OS is perfect in any fassion.  That said, I will agree that 
a *lot!* of bugs have been fixed, or so it seems.


Chris.

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Subject: Re: Current build of El Capitan.



From what a person at apple accessibility told me that the 10.11.1

release has fixed all of the voiceover bugs.

On 10/30/2015 11:54 PM, Sadam Ahmed wrote:

Hi Sabahattin,

Thanks for your feedback. Looks like I’ll be staying put for the moment.

If I had a secondery Mac or Windows computer I might have risked it but as 
things stand Yosemite may be the ticket for now.


The ironic thing is that El Capitan was supposedly going to focus on 
stability. I guess this didn’t extend to VoiceOver.


Thanks again.

Yours truley,

Sadam Ahmed

On 31 Oct 2015, at 4:39 am, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  
wrote:


Remember, nothing prevents you installing a copy of El Capitan on an 
external drive or in a separate partition if you’d like to.


Having said this, my recommendation still stands: stay put. There are 
bugs that are well-known, which have been reported to Apple (and I know 
because I’ve done it) and which have simply not been fixed.  That 
includes activities, hotspots and Safari text editing.  And I’m 
absolutely not at liberty to say that, alas, even the latest beta (which 
you should be running, if you can) is not immune, although thank goodness 
it does appear the fixes are coming for some of the reported issues so 
somebody is actually listening.


My MacBook Pro, which is my secondary machine on which I do all my 
experimenting while I’m home, now has Windows 8.1 on it as its only OS. 
I am saving up for the latest upgrades to all my Windows screen readers. 
The end days are almost upon us. :)


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how to program apps?

[Joe Quinn]

Sorry for the crossposting, but I'm asking about both. What's the best way for 
someone to learn how to program with apple's "swift" language? Is it easy to 
learn? is Xcode accessible/easy to figure out? What about if you don't pay for 
another year of the developer progoam? Would your app still remain in the app 
store? what's better/easier to program for, mac, or iphone? if it's for mac, 
respond on the mac list, iphone, the iphone list please. or just write to me 
privately keeping the subject intact so threads are organized correctly 
whichever you prefeer! Thanks for helping me on this!

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Re: ICloud Photos?

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Use the Photos app on OS X.  When you’re signed in to iCloud and have set the 
preference to use iCloud Photo Library, it’ll show up in your Photos album 
after you’ve initially set it up and synced.  You can also use Photos itself to 
turn on iCloud Photos.  It should appear under at least “All Photos”.

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Read all key strokes on the MAC

[percygarrett]

Hello,what are the commands to read all text on the MAC? On a windows 
computer, I use the insert and down arrow keys. Thanks in advance!


- Original Message - 
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To: "Macvisionaries" 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: Bowers and Wilkins Zeppelin Air.



I have certainly used the Zeppelin Air but may be not the one you speak of.

Very easy to download the Control app from the app store and install the 
Zeppelin Air by following the onscreen instructions.  I will have a look 
at this new product as I loved the airplay speaker.


Many thanks.

Kawal.

On 31 Oct 2015, at 16:25, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:

Hi guys,

Considering the BW Zeppelin Air for a new audio system.

Does anyone have experience with these speakers?

Any feedback on set up etc would be appreciated.

Yours truly,

Sadam Ahmed

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Re: Bowers and Wilkins Zeppelin Air.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I have certainly used the Zeppelin Air but may be not the one you speak of.

Very easy to download the Control app from the app store and install the 
Zeppelin Air by following the onscreen instructions.  I will have a look at 
this new product as I loved the airplay speaker.

Many thanks.

Kawal.
> On 31 Oct 2015, at 16:25, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> Considering the BW Zeppelin Air for a new audio system.
> 
> Does anyone have experience with these speakers?
> 
> Any feedback on set up etc would be appreciated.
> 
> Yours truly,
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
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Re: Current build of El Capitan.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

100% agree.

Chris.

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  Hello,




On 31 Oct 2015, at 14:33, Singing Sparrow  wrote:


From what a person at apple accessibility told me that the 10.11.1 release 
has fixed all of the voiceover bugs.

  Clearly, that was someone who knows nothing about computers. There are always 
bugs, and there are still irritating ones in El Capitán. I would ask that Apple 
Accessibility person to try working with Pages or Numbers and then say that all 
the bugs are fixed.


  Cheers,


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ICloud Photos?

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I just took a picture with my IPhone 6S, and yes, it does have live audio.  How 
do I now go about bringing up that picture on my mac mini?  Yes.  I did sync 
the photo to my ICloud photo library.  No.  I don't have IPhoto installed on my 
mac, although, if I need it, let me know, and I'll go install it.

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Re: Bowers and Wilkins Zeppelin Air.

[Joe Paton]

Hi,

I can only tell you that the sound is brilliant taking in to account the size of
the speakers.

Setup, I can not advise.

Joe.


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Hi guys,

Considering the BW Zeppelin Air for a new audio system.

Does anyone have experience with these speakers?

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Yours truly,

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Anyone selling an iPhone and or an iPad?

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Hi. If anybody is selling an iPhone and/or an iPad, please write me
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Re: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Oh yes, forgot to say: I do pity the bandwidth-conscious.  This change sucks 
for them.  But if you are updating multiple devices on the same network, then 
the Caching Service built into OS X Server can really help with that.  Sadly 
this service refuses to function over Wi-Fi, so the fairly common scenario of a 
tethered iPhone, or an iPhone running through a mobile access point shared with 
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Bowers and Wilkins Zeppelin Air.

[Sadam Ahmed]

Hi guys,

Considering the BW Zeppelin Air for a new audio system.

Does anyone have experience with these speakers?

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Yours truly,

Sadam Ahmed

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Re: Current build of El Capitan.

[Singing Sparrow]

From what a person at apple accessibility told me that the 10.11.1 
release has fixed all of the voiceover bugs.


On 10/30/2015 11:54 PM, Sadam Ahmed wrote:

Hi Sabahattin,

Thanks for your feedback. Looks like I’ll be staying put for the moment.

If I had a secondery Mac or Windows computer I might have risked it but as 
things stand Yosemite may be the ticket for now.

The ironic thing is that El Capitan was supposedly going to focus on stability. 
I guess this didn’t extend to VoiceOver.

Thanks again.

Yours truley,

Sadam Ahmed


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Remember, nothing prevents you installing a copy of El Capitan on an external 
drive or in a separate partition if you’d like to.

Having said this, my recommendation still stands: stay put. There are bugs that 
are well-known, which have been reported to Apple (and I know because I’ve done 
it) and which have simply not been fixed.  That includes activities, hotspots 
and Safari text editing.  And I’m absolutely not at liberty to say that, alas, 
even the latest beta (which you should be running, if you can) is not immune, 
although thank goodness it does appear the fixes are coming for some of the 
reported issues so somebody is actually listening.

My MacBook Pro, which is my secondary machine on which I do all my 
experimenting while I’m home, now has Windows 8.1 on it as its only OS.  I am 
saving up for the latest upgrades to all my Windows screen readers.  The end 
days are almost upon us. :)

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Re: Windows 10 push

[Shawn Krasniuk]

I thought Windows 7 wasn't gonna be totally phased out until 2020. Is this not 
true?

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Re: Windows 10 push

[E.T.]

   Let me put it like this. While that is probably true, Microsoft 
infected my Windows installation on the Mac by trying to get me to let 
them put Windows 10 on it. I could not in any way get past it and could 
not get other Windows updates. I do not know what their game is, why 
they cannot let people decide.


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Shawn
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curious if there were major issues going from Windows 7.

   I am asking because Microsoft is going to make this happen one way or 
another next year, with or without your consent. They already started the first 
stage last month pushing this upgrade via Windows Update.

   How is Bootcamp handling this?

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Re: ICloud Photos?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Then, how do I export a photo on the mac out of my library, if I want to 
send it to someone as a jpg file?


Chris.

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To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" 
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Subject: Re: ICloud Photos?


Use the Photos app on OS X.  When you’re signed in to iCloud and have set 
the preference to use iCloud Photo Library, it’ll show up in your Photos 
album after you’ve initially set it up and synced.  You can also use Photos 
itself to turn on iCloud Photos.  It should appear under at least “All 
Photos”.


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Re: Anyone selling an iPhone and or an iPad?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Didn't you just sell a bunch of IPhones/IPads and a few macs fairly 
recently?  then, you're wanting to buy another one?  What have I missed 
here?


Chris.

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Hi. If anybody is selling an iPhone and/or an iPad, please write me
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Thanks,

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Windows 10 push

[E.T.]

   Some of you may have put Windows 10 on your Macs under Bootcamp. I 
am curious if there were major issues going from Windows 7.


   I am asking because Microsoft is going to make this happen one way 
or another next year, with or without your consent. They already started 
the first stage last month pushing this upgrade via Windows Update.


   How is Bootcamp handling this?

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Re: Anyone selling an iPhone and or an iPad?

[Cameron Strife]

Hi. Yes, looking to get a larger capacity iPhone and iPad as well as a
newer mac with an ssd if I can stretch my funds that far.




On 10/31/15, Christopher-Mark Gilland  wrote:
> Didn't you just sell a bunch of IPhones/IPads and a few macs fairly
> recently?  then, you're wanting to buy another one?  What have I missed
> here?
>
> Chris.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Cameron Strife" 
> To: "macvisionaries" 
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 5:24 PM
> Subject: Anyone selling an iPhone and or an iPad?
>
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>> Hi. If anybody is selling an iPhone and/or an iPad, please write me
>> off list: came...@cameronstrife.com
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Cameron.
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Re: how to program apps?

[Scott Berry]

Hi Joe,

Search the Internet and read Alex Hall;s Xcode tutorials on Apple viz.


> On Oct 31, 2015, at 2:57 PM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
> 
> Sorry for the crossposting, but I'm asking about both. What's the best way 
> for someone to learn how to program with apple's "swift" language? Is it easy 
> to learn? is Xcode accessible/easy to figure out? What about if you don't pay 
> for another year of the developer progoam? Would your app still remain in the 
> app store? what's better/easier to program for, mac, or iphone? if it's for 
> mac, respond on the mac list, iphone, the iphone list please. or just write 
> to me privately keeping the subject intact so threads are organized correctly 
> whichever you prefeer! Thanks for helping me on this!
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Re: Read all key strokes on the MAC

[Eileen Scrivani]

If you have a track pad, like I have on my Mac Book Pro, you can start reading 
with a 2-finger swipe down.  Then just tap the control key to stop it reading 
or tap control again to start it up.  It will only start again if you just 
pause and don’t do something or go somewhere else on the computer.

HTH.

Eileen


From: percygarrett 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 5:10 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Read all key strokes on the MAC

Hello,what are the commands to read all text on the MAC? On a windows 
computer, I use the insert and down arrow keys. Thanks in advance!

- Original Message - 
From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" 
To: "Macvisionaries" 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: Bowers and Wilkins Zeppelin Air.


>I have certainly used the Zeppelin Air but may be not the one you speak of.
>
> Very easy to download the Control app from the app store and install the 
> Zeppelin Air by following the onscreen instructions.  I will have a look 
> at this new product as I loved the airplay speaker.
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Kawal.
>> On 31 Oct 2015, at 16:25, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Considering the BW Zeppelin Air for a new audio system.
>>
>> Does anyone have experience with these speakers?
>>
>> Any feedback on set up etc would be appreciated.
>>
>> Yours truly,
>>
>> Sadam Ahmed
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RE: Windows 10 push

[M. Taylor]

Hello Shawn,

I certainly do not wish to contradict E. T. as he may have access to more 
recently updated information than I.

However, as far as I know, Windows 7 will be supported until the year 2020.

To date, there is no mandatory update to Windows 10.  

In fact, I am writing this reply on a Windows 7 PC which, being an Enterprise 
version, does not even display the Windows 10 notification badge.  

I am also running a Windows 8.1 home Premium computer which, while displaying 
the option to upgrade to Windows 10, in no way warns that the option to do this 
will be taken away.  

Without going into greater detail, for those using a Home version of Windows 
10, the ability to opt out of important updates and, in some cases, new feature 
ad-ons, no longer exists.

Again, this is merely my understanding and I am certainly no authority on 
Microsoft so I welcome any corrections to my comments.

Mark

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 6:32 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Windows 10 push

I thought Windows 7 wasn't gonna be totally phased out until 2020. Is this not 
true?

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 5:25 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Some of you may have put Windows 10 on your Macs under Bootcamp. I am 
> curious if there were major issues going from Windows 7.
> 
>   I am asking because Microsoft is going to make this happen one way or 
> another next year, with or without your consent. They already started the 
> first stage last month pushing this upgrade via Windows Update.
> 
>   How is Bootcamp handling this?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
> true?
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rEFIt

[E.T.]

   If anyone is using rEFIt version 0.14 as a boot menu under Yosemite, 
I would like to know.


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RE: Windows 10 push

[M. Taylor]

Hello E.T.,

I am so sorry you experienced that.  It must have been extremely frustrating.  

All I can say is that no one with whom I interact, locally, has been forced to 
upgrade to Windows 10.  

While I am a huge fan of Windows 10, generally speaking, I recommend upgrading 
only to those running Windows 8.x.

I strongly suspect, and this is only a supposition on my part, that you had 
some kind of nefarious app forcing you to upgrade.  

That is to say, a colleague of a friend of mine in Texas, experienced a similar 
phenomenon; as it turned out, her copy of Windows had been compromised.  I do 
not know if she was running Windows on a Boot Camp partition or not but I do 
recall that the problem did not stem from the native Windows OS.

Can you imagine how the world would react were Microsoft to force people to 
upgrade?

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 6:39 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Windows 10 push

Let me put it like this. While that is probably true, Microsoft infected my 
Windows installation on the Mac by trying to get me to let them put Windows 10 
on it. I could not in any way get past it and could not get other Windows 
updates. I do not know what their game is, why they cannot let people decide.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 10/31/2015 6:32 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
> I thought Windows 7 wasn't gonna be totally phased out until 2020. Is this 
> not true?
>
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>
>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 5:25 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>
>>Some of you may have put Windows 10 on your Macs under Bootcamp. I am 
>> curious if there were major issues going from Windows 7.
>>
>>I am asking because Microsoft is going to make this happen one way or 
>> another next year, with or without your consent. They already started the 
>> first stage last month pushing this upgrade via Windows Update.
>>
>>How is Bootcamp handling this?
>>
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>> true?
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