MeetUp, A Great App for Those Who Want to Widen Their Social Circles

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I am delighted to see that the MeetUp app, for iOS, is now VoiceOver
accessible.  This is a free app.  The app is free to use in order to find
and join meet ups, however, one must pay a fee in order to actually
create/organize a new meet up group.

I will paste in the direct link to the app followed by the app's description
as listed in the App Store.  If you like this app, please send an email to
the developer thanking them for their efforts.

Mark

Download the app by using:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/meetup-groups-near-you-that/id375990038?mt=8

Description 

Meetup makes community real. Our app helps you see what's happening with
groups of people near you that share your interests. And now it's easier
than ever to stay up to date on the go with Meetup for Apple Watch. Want to
start a new Meetup and become an organizer? Set up your subscription and pay
right from the app. As always, Meetup is free to download and free to use
for members.

Featured by Apple in "Best New Apps" and "Great Free Apps"

People meetup around the things that matter most to them. Popular Meetups
include:
Tech Meetup groups
Moms Meetup groups
Dads Meetup groups
Fitness Meetup groups
Hiking Meetup groups
Career and Networking Meetup groups
Support Meetup groups
Book Club Meetup groups
Photography Meetup groups
New in Town Meetup groups
Dog Meetup groups
Language Meetup groups
and 1000s more!

Subscription Plans: 
Anyone who wishes to organize a Meetup may subscribe through the app. An
organizer subscription entitles you to create up to three Meetups with an
unlimited number of members and co-organizers. Meetup offers 1-month and
6-month subscription plans based on the location of your Meetup. 

Prices for Meetups created in the U.S., U.K., Canada and Australia:
Unlimited 1-Month: $9.99

All other countries:
Unlimited 1-Month: $9.99 
Unlimited 6-Month: $29.99

Your subscription will automatically renew at the end of your billing
period, and your credit card will be charged through your iTunes account.
You can turn off auto-renew at any time from your iTunes account Settings.

Questions or Concerns? Please contact us at supp...@meetup.com. We respond
to every inquiry. 

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Facebook's new reactions

[Ben J. Bloomgren]

Hey all,

I saw this article on Twitter about these new reaction emoji that Facebook has 
added to the like button. I hadn't heard anything about it, so I tried it. 
Indeed, it worked on my iPhone. I haven't tried it on the mac yet, as the 
article indicates that one would hover with the mouse over it. What are your 
experiences on iOS and OSX with this?

Here's the article:

http://www.businessinsider.com/facebooks-new-like-provide-data-2016-2

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Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

[Helga Schreiber]

Hi, this is Helga! A question, does Microsoft Outlook use shortcuts in ordr to 
ggo to the top of file and bottom and os on? And do you have to interact on tht 
app as you do in the mail app? Just owndering since I use the  Mac mail for my 
emils!! It will be cool tif I can try something new! I have a gmail account! I 
look forward in hearing form you soon. Thanks and God bless!!

Helga Schreiber 

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
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INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 

> On Feb 28, 2016, at 2:10 PM, syc20...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> One of the alternative mail app that I am aware of is Microsoft Outlook which 
> comes with all the rest of Office sweets. It seems like Microsoft is finally 
> focusing on accessibility. I am not quite sure about other apps elsewhere. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Kevin Chao  wrote:
>> 
>> Mac Chrome Canary can be found here: 
>> https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/canary.html?platform=mac
>>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:55 AM Kevin Chao  wrote:
>>> Canary build of Chrome fixed regressions with text fields introduced by El 
>>> Capitan. I can't recall last time I've seen VoiceOver go busy in Chrome. 
 On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 > I wonder if one could compile and use alpine on the mac.
 
 
 You should be able to compile it or even install it from one of the 
 packaging
 systems that offers free/open-source software for OS X.
 
 > I guess its possible but the question is if voiceover will work with 
 > that.
 
 
 It will work, but VoiceOver in the terminal application isn't good. It's no
 match for BRLTTY, Emacspeak or Speakup under Linux, for instance.
 
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Re: It's finally here, a comprehensive guide to Pages on the Mac with VoiceOver

[Jason Shaw]

There is so much value in the distribution of free knowledge. I don't
need to repeat myself, but it's pretty obvious.

On 2/29/2016 7:14 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
> So the work you put in to things for yourself and others is not worth 
> anything to you or your family?
> 
>  I have no problem paying Anne and her husband for their work on producing 
> this guide,
> 
>  They've worked hard to put it together,
> 
> And it's supporting this sort of work that helps us all go forward.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jason Shaw
> Sent: Monday, 29 February 2016 7:13 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: It's finally here, a comprehensive guide to Pages on the Mac 
> with VoiceOver
> 
> Heard the same before. I don't think the authors will die if the book is 
> freely available. There are other ways of making money other than sharing 
> beneficial knowledge.
> 
> On 2/29/2016 3:50 AM, E.T. wrote:
>>Cross your fingers and hope Donald Trump wins the election, then 
>> maybe he will make everything and even the air you breathe free.
>>
>>You ARE free to decide not to fork over $35. At the end of the day, 
>> if you do not like going hungry, or sleeping outside in winter, then 
>> you might remember that no one else does either. Don't be so cheap.
>>
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>> true?
>>
>> On 2/28/2016 7:16 PM, Jason Shaw wrote:
>>> $35 is still a lot for many people. This knowledge should be free to 
>>> everybody with an option to donate to the author. Those who have the 
>>> ability to will donate, those who cannot won't.
>>>
>>> On 2/29/2016 3:15 AM, John D. Lipsey wrote:
 I see both sides of this argument.

 On the one hand, having such a comprehensive resource freely 
 available means that it can be given to as wide of an audience as 
 humanly possible. However, I’m sure putting a book like this 
 together is no simple task. It probably requires a lot of time—time 
 that the author could be using to do other things for themselves and 
 or their family.  I have no problem compensating somebody for 
 something as long as it’s well researched and full of useful knowledge.

 Also, as a person who has as one of his duties teaching Mac OS with 
 Voiceover to clients, I’m more than willing to grab this book and 
 encorporate some of its information into training sessions as 
 appropriate.  Also, even though $35 may seem like a lot of 
 money—indeed it certainly may be for many people—it’s not, in the 
 grand scheme of things, a bad price.  I could see a book like this 
 priced at or above $100, though I’ve come to expect reasonable 
 prices from Mosen Consulting, and would be shocked if they ever 
 tried to charge that much for this knowledge.

 That’s all. Back to silently observing I go.

 DFTBA!

 John D. Lipsey

 mail: johnl1...@gmail.com

 Twitter: @J_TGL

> On Feb 28, 2016, at 20:06, Jason Shaw  wrote:
>
> This kind of knowledge should be free to everybody, and it will be.
> Nobody should be forced to pay so much for beneficial knowledge 
> which would be extremely valuable to everybody, be they financially 
> able or not.
>
>
> On 2/29/2016 2:39 AM, d.pra...@me.com wrote:
>> I'd love Applevis guides and podcasts for it too. I'd love to have 
>> a free option to share with my assistive technology class. The 
>> instructors know next to nothing about pages and the Mac, and I 
>> was very unprepared to help them make a course for it.
>>
>> Sent from Outlook Mobile .
>> Devin Prater
>> d.pra...@me.com 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:16 PM -0800, "Kevin Chao"
>> mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Has there been consideration for Numbers and KeyNote sequels?
>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:03 PM Jonathan Mosen > > wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone, Anne Robertson is one of the most helpful 
>> people on
>> this list, particularly when it comes to using Pages. She
>> clearly knows it inside-out.
>> Last year, I contacted Anne and asked if she and her husband
>> Archie would be willing to distill their Pages knowledge 
>> into an
>> eBook. They agreed to do this and Mosen Consulting has 
>> published
>> it today. The book is called "My Mac Pages" and contains over
>> 40,000 words of essential info for making the most of the
>> application.
>> You can learn more about the book here
>> .
>>  

RE: It's finally here, a comprehensive guide to Pages on the Mac with VoiceOver

[Simon Fogarty]

So the work you put in to things for yourself and others is not worth anything 
to you or your family?

 I have no problem paying Anne and her husband for their work on producing this 
guide,

 They've worked hard to put it together,

And it's supporting this sort of work that helps us all go forward.



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jason Shaw
Sent: Monday, 29 February 2016 7:13 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: It's finally here, a comprehensive guide to Pages on the Mac with 
VoiceOver

Heard the same before. I don't think the authors will die if the book is freely 
available. There are other ways of making money other than sharing beneficial 
knowledge.

On 2/29/2016 3:50 AM, E.T. wrote:
>Cross your fingers and hope Donald Trump wins the election, then 
> maybe he will make everything and even the air you breathe free.
> 
>You ARE free to decide not to fork over $35. At the end of the day, 
> if you do not like going hungry, or sleeping outside in winter, then 
> you might remember that no one else does either. Don't be so cheap.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
> true?
> 
> On 2/28/2016 7:16 PM, Jason Shaw wrote:
>> $35 is still a lot for many people. This knowledge should be free to 
>> everybody with an option to donate to the author. Those who have the 
>> ability to will donate, those who cannot won't.
>>
>> On 2/29/2016 3:15 AM, John D. Lipsey wrote:
>>> I see both sides of this argument.
>>>
>>> On the one hand, having such a comprehensive resource freely 
>>> available means that it can be given to as wide of an audience as 
>>> humanly possible. However, I’m sure putting a book like this 
>>> together is no simple task. It probably requires a lot of time—time 
>>> that the author could be using to do other things for themselves and 
>>> or their family.  I have no problem compensating somebody for 
>>> something as long as it’s well researched and full of useful knowledge.
>>>
>>> Also, as a person who has as one of his duties teaching Mac OS with 
>>> Voiceover to clients, I’m more than willing to grab this book and 
>>> encorporate some of its information into training sessions as 
>>> appropriate.  Also, even though $35 may seem like a lot of 
>>> money—indeed it certainly may be for many people—it’s not, in the 
>>> grand scheme of things, a bad price.  I could see a book like this 
>>> priced at or above $100, though I’ve come to expect reasonable 
>>> prices from Mosen Consulting, and would be shocked if they ever 
>>> tried to charge that much for this knowledge.
>>>
>>> That’s all. Back to silently observing I go.
>>>
>>> DFTBA!
>>>
>>> John D. Lipsey
>>>
>>> mail: johnl1...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> Twitter: @J_TGL
>>>
 On Feb 28, 2016, at 20:06, Jason Shaw  wrote:

 This kind of knowledge should be free to everybody, and it will be.
 Nobody should be forced to pay so much for beneficial knowledge 
 which would be extremely valuable to everybody, be they financially 
 able or not.


 On 2/29/2016 2:39 AM, d.pra...@me.com wrote:
> I'd love Applevis guides and podcasts for it too. I'd love to have 
> a free option to share with my assistive technology class. The 
> instructors know next to nothing about pages and the Mac, and I 
> was very unprepared to help them make a course for it.
>
> Sent from Outlook Mobile .
> Devin Prater
> d.pra...@me.com 
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:16 PM -0800, "Kevin Chao"
> mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Has there been consideration for Numbers and KeyNote sequels?
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:03 PM Jonathan Mosen  > wrote:
>
> Hi everyone, Anne Robertson is one of the most helpful 
> people on
> this list, particularly when it comes to using Pages. She
> clearly knows it inside-out.
> Last year, I contacted Anne and asked if she and her husband
> Archie would be willing to distill their Pages knowledge 
> into an
> eBook. They agreed to do this and Mosen Consulting has 
> published
> it today. The book is called "My Mac Pages" and contains over
> 40,000 words of essential info for making the most of the
> application.
> You can learn more about the book here
> .
> Thanks to Anne and Archie for doing this. It definitely 
> meets a
> real need out there.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org 
>
>

RE: It's finally here, a comprehensive guide to Pages on the Mac with VoiceOver

[Simon Fogarty]

Remember guys and girls,

 Anne will be getting the writers cut and jonathan the publisher will be 
creaming his cut also off the top of this.

 Everyone needs to make a living, which I have no issues with especially when 
the book is probably a great resource.

As it's an e-book, may be the publishers cut is lot more than it really needs 
to be.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jason Shaw
Sent: Monday, 29 February 2016 4:17 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: It's finally here, a comprehensive guide to Pages on the Mac with 
VoiceOver

$35 is still a lot for many people. This knowledge should be free to everybody 
with an option to donate to the author. Those who have the ability to will 
donate, those who cannot won't.

On 2/29/2016 3:15 AM, John D. Lipsey wrote:
> I see both sides of this argument.
> 
> On the one hand, having such a comprehensive resource freely available means 
> that it can be given to as wide of an audience as humanly possible. However, 
> I’m sure putting a book like this together is no simple task. It probably 
> requires a lot of time—time that the author could be using to do other things 
> for themselves and or their family.  I have no problem compensating somebody 
> for something as long as it’s well researched and full of useful knowledge.
> 
> Also, as a person who has as one of his duties teaching Mac OS with Voiceover 
> to clients, I’m more than willing to grab this book and encorporate some of 
> its information into training sessions as appropriate.  Also, even though $35 
> may seem like a lot of money—indeed it certainly may be for many people—it’s 
> not, in the grand scheme of things, a bad price.  I could see a book like 
> this priced at or above $100, though I’ve come to expect reasonable prices 
> from Mosen Consulting, and would be shocked if they ever tried to charge that 
> much for this knowledge.
> 
> That’s all. Back to silently observing I go.
> 
> DFTBA!
> 
> John D. Lipsey
> 
> mail: johnl1...@gmail.com
> 
> Twitter: @J_TGL
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2016, at 20:06, Jason Shaw  wrote:
>>
>> This kind of knowledge should be free to everybody, and it will be.
>> Nobody should be forced to pay so much for beneficial knowledge which 
>> would be extremely valuable to everybody, be they financially able or not.
>>
>>
>> On 2/29/2016 2:39 AM, d.pra...@me.com wrote:
>>> I'd love Applevis guides and podcasts for it too. I'd love to have a 
>>> free option to share with my assistive technology class. The 
>>> instructors know next to nothing about pages and the Mac, and I was 
>>> very unprepared to help them make a course for it.
>>>
>>> Sent from Outlook Mobile .
>>> Devin Prater
>>> d.pra...@me.com 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:16 PM -0800, "Kevin Chao"
>>> mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>Has there been consideration for Numbers and KeyNote sequels?
>>>On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:03 PM Jonathan Mosen >>> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi everyone, Anne Robertson is one of the most helpful people on
>>>this list, particularly when it comes to using Pages. She
>>>clearly knows it inside-out.
>>>Last year, I contacted Anne and asked if she and her husband
>>>Archie would be willing to distill their Pages knowledge into an
>>>eBook. They agreed to do this and Mosen Consulting has published
>>>it today. The book is called "My Mac Pages" and contains over
>>>40,000 words of essential info for making the most of the
>>>application.
>>>You can learn more about the book here
>>>.
>>>Thanks to Anne and Archie for doing this. It definitely meets a
>>>real need out there.
>>>Jonathan Mosen
>>>Mosen Consulting
>>>Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>>http://Mosen.org 
>>>
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RE: Unable to hear FaceTime calls on a Mac Pro

[Simon Fogarty]

The other thing I wondered is what type of headphone pods is your friend using?

Possibly the microphone par of the connector is not making connection with the 
jack correctly.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Carter Temm
Sent: Monday, 29 February 2016 9:24 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unable to hear FaceTime calls on a Mac Pro

Hi,This may work, or it may not, but its worth a go.
So, go to FaceTime, and when they are in the call, go to the video menu in the 
menu bar. Make sure the input and output devices and volumes are set correctly.
> On Feb 28, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> 
> I have a friend who has to use her computer to answer calls made to her 
> iPhone. The computer is set up to do this and sometimes it works fine. It has 
> been problematic for several weeks now. The iPhone is nearby, but when she 
> answers the iPhone with the Mac she can not hear the caller. Callers can hear 
> her with no difficulty.
> 
> She uses a set of EarPods on the Mac, and they work fine for other things and 
> when used with the iPhone. In system preferences all looks as it should with 
> nothing muted and volume is not zeroed. I can’t figure out what happens to 
> cause this behavior and how to correct it when it occurs. It seemed to fix 
> itself the first time it happened, but not this time. She has severe physical 
> disabilities so this is a very necessary thing for her. If she is using the 
> computer, she cannot use the iPhone. Both the phone settings and the mac 
> settings appear fine. She is signed in through her Gmail address, obviously 
> since she can actually answer the calls, but not hear them.
> 
> Any info would be appreciated.
> 
> Kristeen
> .
> 
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RE: alternative email programs on the mac?

[Simon Fogarty]

What about thunderbird?


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of syc20...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, 29 February 2016 8:10 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

One of the alternative mail app that I am aware of is Microsoft Outlook which 
comes with all the rest of Office sweets. It seems like Microsoft is finally 
focusing on accessibility. I am not quite sure about other apps elsewhere.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 28, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Kevin Chao 
mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Mac Chrome Canary can be found here: 
https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/canary.html?platform=mac
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:55 AM Kevin Chao 
mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Canary build of Chrome fixed regressions with text fields introduced by El 
Capitan. I can't recall last time I've seen VoiceOver go busy in Chrome.
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
Anders Holmberg mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:
> I wonder if one could compile and use alpine on the mac.


You should be able to compile it or even install it from one of the packaging
systems that offers free/open-source software for OS X.

> I guess its possible but the question is if voiceover will work with that.


It will work, but VoiceOver in the terminal application isn't good. It's no
match for BRLTTY, Emacspeak or Speakup under Linux, for instance.

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RE: alternative email programs on the mac?

[Simon Fogarty]

On the IOS platform Google have produced a mail client for gmail I thought 
there was a stand alone version for the mac os as well?

 Mind you there are a lot of mail clients on the app store how many are 
actually accessible would be the key question.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of jeff `greene
Sent: Monday, 29 February 2016 8:04 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

Hi Kevin, I'll have to give that a try! The biggest problem I have with mac 
mail is if I try to go back to the first email in the list, and it has a 
coniption fit of busies.
Thanks, Jeff


On 2/28/16, Kevin Chao  wrote:
> Mac Chrome Canary can be found here:
> https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/canary.html?platform=mac
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:55 AM Kevin Chao  wrote:
>
>> Canary build of Chrome fixed regressions with text fields introduced 
>> by El Capitan. I can't recall last time I've seen VoiceOver go busy 
>> in Chrome.
>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries < 
>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> > I wonder if one could compile and use alpine on the mac.
>>>
>>>
>>> You should be able to compile it or even install it from one of the 
>>> packaging systems that offers free/open-source software for OS X.
>>>
>>> > I guess its possible but the question is if voiceover will work 
>>> > with
>>> that.
>>>
>>>
>>> It will work, but VoiceOver in the terminal application isn't good. 
>>> It's no match for BRLTTY, Emacspeak or Speakup under Linux, for 
>>> instance.
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RE: Unable to hear FaceTime calls on a Mac Pro

[Simon Fogarty]

So somewhere within facetime there is a volume issue. 
Does she have any issues with volume in any other situation on her Mac?



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On Behalf Of Kristeen Hughes
Sent: Monday, 29 February 2016 7:15 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Unable to hear FaceTime calls on a Mac Pro

I have a friend who has to use her computer to answer calls made to her iPhone. 
The computer is set up to do this and sometimes it works fine. It has been 
problematic for several weeks now. The iPhone is nearby, but when she answers 
the iPhone with the Mac she can not hear the caller. Callers can hear her with 
no difficulty.

She uses a set of EarPods on the Mac, and they work fine for other things and 
when used with the iPhone. In system preferences all looks as it should with 
nothing muted and volume is not zeroed. I can’t figure out what happens to 
cause this behavior and how to correct it when it occurs. It seemed to fix 
itself the first time it happened, but not this time. She has severe physical 
disabilities so this is a very necessary thing for her. If she is using the 
computer, she cannot use the iPhone. Both the phone settings and the mac 
settings appear fine. She is signed in through her Gmail address, obviously 
since she can actually answer the calls, but not hear them.

Any info would be appreciated.

Kristeen
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Re: It's finally here, a comprehensive guide to Pages on the Mac with VoiceOver

[Jason Shaw]

Heard the same before. I don't think the authors will die if the book is
freely available. There are other ways of making money other than
sharing beneficial knowledge.

On 2/29/2016 3:50 AM, E.T. wrote:
>Cross your fingers and hope Donald Trump wins the election, then
> maybe he will make everything and even the air you breathe free.
> 
>You ARE free to decide not to fork over $35. At the end of the day,
> if you do not like going hungry, or sleeping outside in winter, then you
> might remember that no one else does either. Don't be so cheap.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 2/28/2016 7:16 PM, Jason Shaw wrote:
>> $35 is still a lot for many people. This knowledge should be free to
>> everybody with an option to donate to the author. Those who have the
>> ability to will donate, those who cannot won't.
>>
>> On 2/29/2016 3:15 AM, John D. Lipsey wrote:
>>> I see both sides of this argument.
>>>
>>> On the one hand, having such a comprehensive resource freely
>>> available means that it can be given to as wide of an audience as
>>> humanly possible. However, I’m sure putting a book like this together
>>> is no simple task. It probably requires a lot of time—time that the
>>> author could be using to do other things for themselves and or their
>>> family.  I have no problem compensating somebody for something as
>>> long as it’s well researched and full of useful knowledge.
>>>
>>> Also, as a person who has as one of his duties teaching Mac OS with
>>> Voiceover to clients, I’m more than willing to grab this book and
>>> encorporate some of its information into training sessions as
>>> appropriate.  Also, even though $35 may seem like a lot of
>>> money—indeed it certainly may be for many people—it’s not, in the
>>> grand scheme of things, a bad price.  I could see a book like this
>>> priced at or above $100, though I’ve come to expect reasonable prices
>>> from Mosen Consulting, and would be shocked if they ever tried to
>>> charge that much for this knowledge.
>>>
>>> That’s all. Back to silently observing I go.
>>>
>>> DFTBA!
>>>
>>> John D. Lipsey
>>>
>>> mail: johnl1...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> Twitter: @J_TGL
>>>
 On Feb 28, 2016, at 20:06, Jason Shaw  wrote:

 This kind of knowledge should be free to everybody, and it will be.
 Nobody should be forced to pay so much for beneficial knowledge which
 would be extremely valuable to everybody, be they financially able
 or not.


 On 2/29/2016 2:39 AM, d.pra...@me.com wrote:
> I'd love Applevis guides and podcasts for it too. I'd love to have a
> free option to share with my assistive technology class. The
> instructors
> know next to nothing about pages and the Mac, and I was very
> unprepared
> to help them make a course for it.
>
> Sent from Outlook Mobile .
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>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:16 PM -0800, "Kevin Chao"
> mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Has there been consideration for Numbers and KeyNote sequels?
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:03 PM Jonathan Mosen  > wrote:
>
> Hi everyone, Anne Robertson is one of the most helpful
> people on
> this list, particularly when it comes to using Pages. She
> clearly knows it inside-out.
> Last year, I contacted Anne and asked if she and her husband
> Archie would be willing to distill their Pages knowledge
> into an
> eBook. They agreed to do this and Mosen Consulting has
> published
> it today. The book is called "My Mac Pages" and contains over
> 40,000 words of essential info for making the most of the
> application.
> You can learn more about the book here
> .
> Thanks to Anne and Archie for doing this. It definitely
> meets a
> real need out there.
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> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
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Re: skype recorder

[syc20099]

One that I recommend is Audio Hyjack. It doesn't record Skype but it could be 
used to record other audios comming out of Mac and it's accessible. The only 
downside is that it's paid, though it's worth a purchase once you have it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 28, 2016, at 7:50 PM, Vaughn Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ray,
> 
> I found it and downloaded the demo. But it doesn't look accessible.
> None of the buttons are labeled. Your thoughts?
> Vaughn
> 
>> On 2/28/16, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>> You might try "call recorder for Skype.  Not in the app store so you'll have
>> to Google it.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>> 
>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless
>> iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2016, at 5:30 PM, Vaughn Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello folks,
>>> 
>>> I am looking to start podcasting by interviewing musicians. I installe
>>> Skype and now wanting to hear feedback on a recorder for Skype. I
>>> heard of one simplied called "Skype Recorder" but wanted to check for
>>> accessible Skype recordeing software.
>>> 
>>> Thank you folks, and have a nice day.
>>> Vaughn
>>> 
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>>> 504-202-8492
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RE: Trillian 3.4 has been released

[BBS]

No it’s $4.00.

 

 

Shawn

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Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of d.pra...@me.com
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 10:22 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Trillian 3.4 has been released

 

Is Growl free nowadays?

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Devin Prater
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On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 8:18 PM -0800, "BBS"  wrote:

Do you have Growl installed? If you have Growl installed, it’ll read incoming 
messages automatically.

 

 

Shawn

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Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of d.pra...@me.com
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 8:11 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Trillian 3.4 has been released

 

I finally got the accounts online, and it works well enough, but is there a way 
to get it to auto-read incoming messages?

Sent from Outlook Mobile  .
Devin Prater
d.pra...@me.com

 






On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 3:03 PM -0800, "Grant"  wrote:

You do, alas, need a Trillian account. But you can sign up from within the app, 
and if you have multiple devices it’ll sync your accounts between them; so it 
does have some usefulness.


Grant 

 

On Feb 28, 2016, at 1:35 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

 

I'm trying to remember.  I actually have a friend who wants to get started 
using Trillian, but don't you have to get an account on the Trillion web site?  
I don't remember how that worked, as it's been ages since I set mine up.

 

Chris.

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Re: skype recorder

[Ray Foret Jr]

Don't be fooled.  The labels may not be on the buttons themselves, but, if you 
take a second to examine the help tags, you'll see that actually, it's fully 
accessible that way.  
Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

> On Feb 28, 2016, at 7:50 PM, Vaughn Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ray,
> 
> I found it and downloaded the demo. But it doesn't look accessible.
> None of the buttons are labeled. Your thoughts?
> Vaughn
> 
> On 2/28/16, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>> You might try "call recorder for Skype.  Not in the app store so you'll have
>> to Google it.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>> 
>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless
>> iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2016, at 5:30 PM, Vaughn Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello folks,
>>> 
>>> I am looking to start podcasting by interviewing musicians. I installe
>>> Skype and now wanting to hear feedback on a recorder for Skype. I
>>> heard of one simplied called "Skype Recorder" but wanted to check for
>>> accessible Skype recordeing software.
>>> 
>>> Thank you folks, and have a nice day.
>>> Vaughn
>>> 
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RE: Trillian 3.4 has been released

[d . prater]

Is Growl free nowadays?

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On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 8:18 PM -0800, "BBS"  wrote:












Do you have Growl installed? If you have Growl installed, it’ll read incoming 
messages automatically.

 

 

Shawn

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Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 8:11 PM
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Subject: Re: Trillian 3.4 has been released

 

I finally got the accounts online, and it works well enough, but is there a way 
to get it to auto-read incoming messages?

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On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 3:03 PM -0800, "Grant"  wrote:

You do, alas, need a Trillian account. But you can sign up from within the app, 
and if you have multiple devices it’ll sync your accounts between them; so it 
does have some usefulness.


Grant 

 

On Feb 28, 2016, at 1:35 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

 

I'm trying to remember.  I actually have a friend who wants to get started 
using Trillian, but don't you have to get an account on the Trillion web site?  
I don't remember how that worked, as it's been ages since I set mine up.

 

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RE: Trillian 3.4 has been released

[BBS]

Do you have Growl installed? If you have Growl installed, it’ll read incoming 
messages automatically.

 

 

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Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 8:11 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Trillian 3.4 has been released

 

I finally got the accounts online, and it works well enough, but is there a way 
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On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 3:03 PM -0800, "Grant"  wrote:

You do, alas, need a Trillian account. But you can sign up from within the app, 
and if you have multiple devices it’ll sync your accounts between them; so it 
does have some usefulness.


Grant 

 

On Feb 28, 2016, at 1:35 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

 

I'm trying to remember.  I actually have a friend who wants to get started 
using Trillian, but don't you have to get an account on the Trillion web site?  
I don't remember how that worked, as it's been ages since I set mine up.

 

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Re: It's finally here, a comprehensive guide to Pages on the Mac with VoiceOver

[d . prater]

I didn't demand that the book be free. I just have a hope that they'd do guides 
or podcasts on Applevis for it. Some people don't like having to read through 
large chunks of information, some like listening to podcasts, and others just 
don't feel that knowledge that sighted people can ascertain from looking at 
videos and all for free, should cost almost as much as a video game, for blind 
people to use a free application. I know, if I don't like the price, find an 
alternative. But the sad truth is, there are no alternatives that I know of. I 
was embarrassed so much when I couldn't teach the instructor how to use pages 
more than doing basic formatting. It made me, and the whole Mac system, look 
even worse than it originally did to the assistant instructor. Now, the 
assistant "hates the Mac" and I couldn't do anything more to help sway his 
opinion.

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On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 7:41 PM -0800, "Mary Otten"  wrote:










As soon as the people who spend all of their time and resources to make this 
stuff available don't have to buy groceries or pay rent or utilities, then I 
will agree with you. Until then, pay the 35 bucks or stop complaining. Why is 
it that there are so many blind people who think they are owed everything that 
other people put their time and effort into for nothing? If you can afford to 
buy a Mac or an iPhone, you can afford 35 bucks for a book that is going to 
help you use pages if you really need to use pages. And if somebody gave you 
the Mac and or the iPhone, all the more reason why you shouldn't mind spending 
35 bucks on a good professional resource.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 28, 2016, at 7:16 PM, Jason Shaw  wrote:
> 
> $35 is still a lot for many people. This knowledge should be free to
> everybody with an option to donate to the author. Those who have the
> ability to will donate, those who cannot won't.
> 
>> On 2/29/2016 3:15 AM, John D. Lipsey wrote:
>> I see both sides of this argument.
>> 
>> On the one hand, having such a comprehensive resource freely available means 
>> that it can be given to as wide of an audience as humanly possible. However, 
>> I’m sure putting a book like this together is no simple task. It probably 
>> requires a lot of time—time that the author could be using to do other 
>> things for themselves and or their family.  I have no problem compensating 
>> somebody for something as long as it’s well researched and full of useful 
>> knowledge.
>> 
>> Also, as a person who has as one of his duties teaching Mac OS with 
>> Voiceover to clients, I’m more than willing to grab this book and 
>> encorporate some of its information into training sessions as appropriate.  
>> Also, even though $35 may seem like a lot of money—indeed it certainly may 
>> be for many people—it’s not, in the grand scheme of things, a bad price.  I 
>> could see a book like this priced at or above $100, though I’ve come to 
>> expect reasonable prices from Mosen Consulting, and would be shocked if they 
>> ever tried to charge that much for this knowledge.
>> 
>> That’s all. Back to silently observing I go.
>> 
>> DFTBA!
>> 
>> John D. Lipsey
>> 
>> mail: johnl1...@gmail.com
>> 
>> Twitter: @J_TGL
>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2016, at 20:06, Jason Shaw  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This kind of knowledge should be free to everybody, and it will be.
>>> Nobody should be forced to pay so much for beneficial knowledge which
>>> would be extremely valuable to everybody, be they financially able or not.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 2/29/2016 2:39 AM, d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 I'd love Applevis guides and podcasts for it too. I'd love to have a
 free option to share with my assistive technology class. The instructors
 know next to nothing about pages and the Mac, and I was very unprepared
 to help them make a course for it.
 
 Sent from Outlook Mobile .
 Devin Prater
 d.pra...@me.com 
 
 
 
 
 On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:16 PM -0800, "Kevin Chao"
 > wrote:
 
   Has there been consideration for Numbers and KeyNote sequels?
   On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:03 PM Jonathan Mosen >>>   > wrote:
 
   Hi everyone, Anne Robertson is one of the most helpful people on
   this list, particularly when it comes to using Pages. She
   clearly knows it inside-out.
   Last year, I contacted Anne and asked if she and her husband
   Archie would be willing to distill their Pages knowledge into an
   eBook. They agreed to do this and Mosen Consulting has published
   it today. The book is called "My Mac Pages" and contains over
   40,000 words of essential info for making the most of the
   application.
   You can learn more about the book here
   .
   Thanks to Anne and Archie for doing this. It definitely meets a
   real need out there.
   Jonathan Mosen
   Mosen Consulting
>>>

Re: It's finally here, a comprehensive guide to Pages on the Mac with VoiceOver

[E.T.]

   Cross your fingers and hope Donald Trump wins the election, then 
maybe he will make everything and even the air you breathe free.


   You ARE free to decide not to fork over $35. At the end of the day, 
if you do not like going hungry, or sleeping outside in winter, then you 
might remember that no one else does either. Don't be so cheap.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/28/2016 7:16 PM, Jason Shaw wrote:

$35 is still a lot for many people. This knowledge should be free to
everybody with an option to donate to the author. Those who have the
ability to will donate, those who cannot won't.

On 2/29/2016 3:15 AM, John D. Lipsey wrote:

I see both sides of this argument.

On the one hand, having such a comprehensive resource freely available means 
that it can be given to as wide of an audience as humanly possible. However, 
I’m sure putting a book like this together is no simple task. It probably 
requires a lot of time—time that the author could be using to do other things 
for themselves and or their family.  I have no problem compensating somebody 
for something as long as it’s well researched and full of useful knowledge.

Also, as a person who has as one of his duties teaching Mac OS with Voiceover 
to clients, I’m more than willing to grab this book and encorporate some of its 
information into training sessions as appropriate.  Also, even though $35 may 
seem like a lot of money—indeed it certainly may be for many people—it’s not, 
in the grand scheme of things, a bad price.  I could see a book like this 
priced at or above $100, though I’ve come to expect reasonable prices from 
Mosen Consulting, and would be shocked if they ever tried to charge that much 
for this knowledge.

That’s all. Back to silently observing I go.

DFTBA!

John D. Lipsey

mail: johnl1...@gmail.com

Twitter: @J_TGL


On Feb 28, 2016, at 20:06, Jason Shaw  wrote:

This kind of knowledge should be free to everybody, and it will be.
Nobody should be forced to pay so much for beneficial knowledge which
would be extremely valuable to everybody, be they financially able or not.


On 2/29/2016 2:39 AM, d.pra...@me.com wrote:

I'd love Applevis guides and podcasts for it too. I'd love to have a
free option to share with my assistive technology class. The instructors
know next to nothing about pages and the Mac, and I was very unprepared
to help them make a course for it.

Sent from Outlook Mobile .
Devin Prater
d.pra...@me.com 




On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:16 PM -0800, "Kevin Chao"
mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Has there been consideration for Numbers and KeyNote sequels?
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:03 PM Jonathan Mosen mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote:

Hi everyone, Anne Robertson is one of the most helpful people on
this list, particularly when it comes to using Pages. She
clearly knows it inside-out.
Last year, I contacted Anne and asked if she and her husband
Archie would be willing to distill their Pages knowledge into an
eBook. They agreed to do this and Mosen Consulting has published
it today. The book is called "My Mac Pages" and contains over
40,000 words of essential info for making the most of the
application.
You can learn more about the book here
.
Thanks to Anne and Archie for doing this. It definitely meets a
real need out there.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org 

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Re: It's finally here, a comprehensive guide to Pages on the Mac with VoiceOver

[Mary Otten]

As soon as the people who spend all of their time and resources to make this 
stuff available don't have to buy groceries or pay rent or utilities, then I 
will agree with you. Until then, pay the 35 bucks or stop complaining. Why is 
it that there are so many blind people who think they are owed everything that 
other people put their time and effort into for nothing? If you can afford to 
buy a Mac or an iPhone, you can afford 35 bucks for a book that is going to 
help you use pages if you really need to use pages. And if somebody gave you 
the Mac and or the iPhone, all the more reason why you shouldn't mind spending 
35 bucks on a good professional resource.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 28, 2016, at 7:16 PM, Jason Shaw  wrote:
> 
> $35 is still a lot for many people. This knowledge should be free to
> everybody with an option to donate to the author. Those who have the
> ability to will donate, those who cannot won't.
> 
>> On 2/29/2016 3:15 AM, John D. Lipsey wrote:
>> I see both sides of this argument.
>> 
>> On the one hand, having such a comprehensive resource freely available means 
>> that it can be given to as wide of an audience as humanly possible. However, 
>> I’m sure putting a book like this together is no simple task. It probably 
>> requires a lot of time—time that the author could be using to do other 
>> things for themselves and or their family.  I have no problem compensating 
>> somebody for something as long as it’s well researched and full of useful 
>> knowledge.
>> 
>> Also, as a person who has as one of his duties teaching Mac OS with 
>> Voiceover to clients, I’m more than willing to grab this book and 
>> encorporate some of its information into training sessions as appropriate.  
>> Also, even though $35 may seem like a lot of money—indeed it certainly may 
>> be for many people—it’s not, in the grand scheme of things, a bad price.  I 
>> could see a book like this priced at or above $100, though I’ve come to 
>> expect reasonable prices from Mosen Consulting, and would be shocked if they 
>> ever tried to charge that much for this knowledge.
>> 
>> That’s all. Back to silently observing I go.
>> 
>> DFTBA!
>> 
>> John D. Lipsey
>> 
>> mail: johnl1...@gmail.com
>> 
>> Twitter: @J_TGL
>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2016, at 20:06, Jason Shaw  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This kind of knowledge should be free to everybody, and it will be.
>>> Nobody should be forced to pay so much for beneficial knowledge which
>>> would be extremely valuable to everybody, be they financially able or not.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 2/29/2016 2:39 AM, d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 I'd love Applevis guides and podcasts for it too. I'd love to have a
 free option to share with my assistive technology class. The instructors
 know next to nothing about pages and the Mac, and I was very unprepared
 to help them make a course for it.
 
 Sent from Outlook Mobile .
 Devin Prater
 d.pra...@me.com 
 
 
 
 
 On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:16 PM -0800, "Kevin Chao"
 mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
   Has there been consideration for Numbers and KeyNote sequels?
   On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:03 PM Jonathan Mosen >>>   > wrote:
 
   Hi everyone, Anne Robertson is one of the most helpful people on
   this list, particularly when it comes to using Pages. She
   clearly knows it inside-out.
   Last year, I contacted Anne and asked if she and her husband
   Archie would be willing to distill their Pages knowledge into an
   eBook. They agreed to do this and Mosen Consulting has published
   it today. The book is called "My Mac Pages" and contains over
   40,000 words of essential info for making the most of the
   application.
   You can learn more about the book here
   .
   Thanks to Anne and Archie for doing this. It definitely meets a
   real need out there.
   Jonathan Mosen
   Mosen Consulting
   Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
   http://Mosen.org 
 
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Re: It's finally here, a comprehensive guide to Pages on the Mac with VoiceOver

[Jason Shaw]

$35 is still a lot for many people. This knowledge should be free to
everybody with an option to donate to the author. Those who have the
ability to will donate, those who cannot won't.

On 2/29/2016 3:15 AM, John D. Lipsey wrote:
> I see both sides of this argument.
> 
> On the one hand, having such a comprehensive resource freely available means 
> that it can be given to as wide of an audience as humanly possible. However, 
> I’m sure putting a book like this together is no simple task. It probably 
> requires a lot of time—time that the author could be using to do other things 
> for themselves and or their family.  I have no problem compensating somebody 
> for something as long as it’s well researched and full of useful knowledge.
> 
> Also, as a person who has as one of his duties teaching Mac OS with Voiceover 
> to clients, I’m more than willing to grab this book and encorporate some of 
> its information into training sessions as appropriate.  Also, even though $35 
> may seem like a lot of money—indeed it certainly may be for many people—it’s 
> not, in the grand scheme of things, a bad price.  I could see a book like 
> this priced at or above $100, though I’ve come to expect reasonable prices 
> from Mosen Consulting, and would be shocked if they ever tried to charge that 
> much for this knowledge.
> 
> That’s all. Back to silently observing I go.
> 
> DFTBA!
> 
> John D. Lipsey
> 
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> 
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> 
>> On Feb 28, 2016, at 20:06, Jason Shaw  wrote:
>>
>> This kind of knowledge should be free to everybody, and it will be.
>> Nobody should be forced to pay so much for beneficial knowledge which
>> would be extremely valuable to everybody, be they financially able or not.
>>
>>
>> On 2/29/2016 2:39 AM, d.pra...@me.com wrote:
>>> I'd love Applevis guides and podcasts for it too. I'd love to have a
>>> free option to share with my assistive technology class. The instructors
>>> know next to nothing about pages and the Mac, and I was very unprepared
>>> to help them make a course for it.
>>>
>>> Sent from Outlook Mobile .
>>> Devin Prater
>>> d.pra...@me.com 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:16 PM -0800, "Kevin Chao"
>>> mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>Has there been consideration for Numbers and KeyNote sequels?
>>>On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:03 PM Jonathan Mosen >>> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi everyone, Anne Robertson is one of the most helpful people on
>>>this list, particularly when it comes to using Pages. She
>>>clearly knows it inside-out.
>>>Last year, I contacted Anne and asked if she and her husband
>>>Archie would be willing to distill their Pages knowledge into an
>>>eBook. They agreed to do this and Mosen Consulting has published
>>>it today. The book is called "My Mac Pages" and contains over
>>>40,000 words of essential info for making the most of the
>>>application.
>>>You can learn more about the book here
>>>.
>>>Thanks to Anne and Archie for doing this. It definitely meets a
>>>real need out there.
>>>Jonathan Mosen
>>>Mosen Consulting
>>>Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>>http://Mosen.org 
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Re: It's finally here, a comprehensive guide to Pages on the Mac with VoiceOver

[John D. Lipsey]

I see both sides of this argument.

On the one hand, having such a comprehensive resource freely available means 
that it can be given to as wide of an audience as humanly possible. However, 
I’m sure putting a book like this together is no simple task. It probably 
requires a lot of time—time that the author could be using to do other things 
for themselves and or their family.  I have no problem compensating somebody 
for something as long as it’s well researched and full of useful knowledge.

Also, as a person who has as one of his duties teaching Mac OS with Voiceover 
to clients, I’m more than willing to grab this book and encorporate some of its 
information into training sessions as appropriate.  Also, even though $35 may 
seem like a lot of money—indeed it certainly may be for many people—it’s not, 
in the grand scheme of things, a bad price.  I could see a book like this 
priced at or above $100, though I’ve come to expect reasonable prices from 
Mosen Consulting, and would be shocked if they ever tried to charge that much 
for this knowledge.

That’s all. Back to silently observing I go.

DFTBA!

John D. Lipsey

mail: johnl1...@gmail.com

Twitter: @J_TGL

> On Feb 28, 2016, at 20:06, Jason Shaw  wrote:
> 
> This kind of knowledge should be free to everybody, and it will be.
> Nobody should be forced to pay so much for beneficial knowledge which
> would be extremely valuable to everybody, be they financially able or not.
> 
> 
> On 2/29/2016 2:39 AM, d.pra...@me.com wrote:
>> I'd love Applevis guides and podcasts for it too. I'd love to have a
>> free option to share with my assistive technology class. The instructors
>> know next to nothing about pages and the Mac, and I was very unprepared
>> to help them make a course for it.
>> 
>> Sent from Outlook Mobile .
>> Devin Prater
>> d.pra...@me.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:16 PM -0800, "Kevin Chao"
>> mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>Has there been consideration for Numbers and KeyNote sequels?
>>On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:03 PM Jonathan Mosen >> wrote:
>> 
>>Hi everyone, Anne Robertson is one of the most helpful people on
>>this list, particularly when it comes to using Pages. She
>>clearly knows it inside-out.
>>Last year, I contacted Anne and asked if she and her husband
>>Archie would be willing to distill their Pages knowledge into an
>>eBook. They agreed to do this and Mosen Consulting has published
>>it today. The book is called "My Mac Pages" and contains over
>>40,000 words of essential info for making the most of the
>>application.
>>You can learn more about the book here
>>.
>>Thanks to Anne and Archie for doing this. It definitely meets a
>>real need out there.
>>Jonathan Mosen
>>Mosen Consulting
>>Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>http://Mosen.org 
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Re: It's finally here, a comprehensive guide to Pages on the Mac with VoiceOver

[Jason Shaw]

This kind of knowledge should be free to everybody, and it will be.
Nobody should be forced to pay so much for beneficial knowledge which
would be extremely valuable to everybody, be they financially able or not.


On 2/29/2016 2:39 AM, d.pra...@me.com wrote:
> I'd love Applevis guides and podcasts for it too. I'd love to have a
> free option to share with my assistive technology class. The instructors
> know next to nothing about pages and the Mac, and I was very unprepared
> to help them make a course for it.
> 
> Sent from Outlook Mobile .
> Devin Prater
> d.pra...@me.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:16 PM -0800, "Kevin Chao"
> mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Has there been consideration for Numbers and KeyNote sequels?
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:03 PM Jonathan Mosen  > wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone, Anne Robertson is one of the most helpful people on
> this list, particularly when it comes to using Pages. She
> clearly knows it inside-out.
> Last year, I contacted Anne and asked if she and her husband
> Archie would be willing to distill their Pages knowledge into an
> eBook. They agreed to do this and Mosen Consulting has published
> it today. The book is called "My Mac Pages" and contains over
> 40,000 words of essential info for making the most of the
> application.
> You can learn more about the book here
> .
> Thanks to Anne and Archie for doing this. It definitely meets a
> real need out there.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org 
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Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Apple provides a copy of Postfix with OS X configured for a pretty reasonable 
direct-to-MX setup, and it would be possible to modify this to work with your 
ISP, to support programs that rely on the command-line submission interface.  
Alpine would work with that, although I’d prefer to build Exim.  Nevertheless 
both Alpine and Mutt now support SMTP directly like every other client, so 
there is no need for a dedicated /usr/sbin/sendmail interface anymore; just 
tell Alpine or Mutt what your ISP SMTP server is and it will connect directly 
and send the message without the intermediate MTA running on your own machine.

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Re: It's finally here, a comprehensive guide to Pages on the Mac with VoiceOver

[d . prater]

I'd love Applevis guides and podcasts for it too. I'd love to have a free 
option to share with my assistive technology class. The instructors know next 
to nothing about pages and the Mac, and I was very unprepared to help them make 
a course for it.

Sent from Outlook Mobile.
Devin Prater
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On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:16 PM -0800, "Kevin Chao"  
wrote:










Has there been consideration for Numbers and KeyNote sequels?
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:03 PM Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
Hi everyone, Anne Robertson is one of the most helpful people on this list, 
particularly when it comes to using Pages. She clearly knows it inside-out.Last 
year, I contacted Anne and asked if she and her husband Archie would be willing 
to distill their Pages knowledge into an eBook. They agreed to do this and 
Mosen Consulting has published it today. The book is called "My Mac Pages" and 
contains over 40,000 words of essential info for making the most of the 
application.You can learn more about the book here.Thanks to Anne and Archie 
for doing this. It definitely meets a real need out there.

Jonathan MosenMosen ConsultingBlindness technology eBooks, tutorials and 
traininghttp://Mosen.org









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Re: Trillian 3.4 has been released

[d . prater]

I finally got the accounts online, and it works well enough, but is there a way 
to get it to auto-read incoming messages?

Sent from Outlook Mobile.
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On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 3:03 PM -0800, "Grant"  wrote:










You do, alas, need a Trillian account. But you can sign up from within the app, 
and if you have multiple devices it’ll sync your accounts between them; so it 
does have some usefulness.


Grant



On Feb 28, 2016, at 1:35 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:
I'm trying to remember.  I actually have a friend who wants to get started 
using Trillian, but don't you have to get an account on the Trillion web site?  
I don't remember how that worked, as it's been ages since I set mine up. Chris.





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Walking directions in the United States

[ben J. Bloomgren]

Hi all,

I have a job interview coming up this week, and I need to do some practice so 
that I can know where I'm going. Once I get into the area, however, I would 
like to know which app you guys prefer for obtaining walking directions. Under 
android, I used an app called nearby explorer. It works splendidly. I have 
blind square, nava gone, Apple Maps, Google maps, and Waze. I have used 
BlindSquare before with great results, but I need to be very sure of what I'm 
receiving. What would you guys recommend?

Ben

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Re: Recording of Voiceover

[Helga Schreiber]

Hi, I thik it is my friend! I htik justuse the Voice Memos app on the mac! It 
wroks great! On teh iPhoen! Just start the recording come out form it! And then 
 perform the pause command wihtout just goign back to the voice memso app! What 
od yu  think? I look forward in  hearing form you soon! Thanks and God bless!

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Re: skype recorder

[Vaughn Brown]

Hi Ray,

I found it and downloaded the demo. But it doesn't look accessible.
None of the buttons are labeled. Your thoughts?
Vaughn

On 2/28/16, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> You might try "call recorder for Skype.  Not in the app store so you'll have
> to Google it.
>
>
> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind
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> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
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> iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
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>>
>> Hello folks,
>>
>> I am looking to start podcasting by interviewing musicians. I installe
>> Skype and now wanting to hear feedback on a recorder for Skype. I
>> heard of one simplied called "Skype Recorder" but wanted to check for
>> accessible Skype recordeing software.
>>
>> Thank you folks, and have a nice day.
>> Vaughn
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Re: It's finally here, a comprehensive guide to Pages on the Mac with VoiceOver

[Kevin Chao]

Has there been consideration for Numbers and KeyNote sequels?
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:03 PM Jonathan Mosen  wrote:

> Hi everyone, Anne Robertson is one of the most helpful people on this
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> inside-out.
> Last year, I contacted Anne and asked if she and her husband Archie would
> be willing to distill their Pages knowledge into an eBook. They agreed to
> do this and Mosen Consulting has published it today. The book is called "My
> Mac Pages" and contains over 40,000 words of essential info for making the
> most of the application.
> You can learn more about the book here
> .
> Thanks to Anne and Archie for doing this. It definitely meets a real need
> out there.
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Re: Marsedit Creating Headings

[Carter Temm]

Hi,
If you are using the html editor, its easy. First though, go to mars edit 
preferences, then editor, and make sure html editor is selected.
Get to the place where you would like to insert a heading, and type the 
following:
my heading name
In this example, my heading name is the name of the heading. Make sure to close 
off the html tag with  when you are done
You can use heading level numbers all the way up to 6. Sof another example, to 
create a heading level 2, you would just type the following:
heading
thanks
> On Feb 28, 2016, at 6:16 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
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> Hi:
> How do you create headings for your blog in Marsedit?
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Recording of Voiceover

[E.T.]

   Is it easy to make a recording of Voiceover speaking something, such 
as reading a document on the Mac?


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Re: Making MP3 files into some kind of audio book?

[Jenine Stanley]

Thanks Ray, 

I did go ahead and purchase Audio Book Maker and it really does look good. 
Jenine Stanley
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> On Feb 28, 2016, at 7:02 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> Okay.  First, when you want to select files noncontiguously for  you just 
> follow the ragular procedure.  Click the sound menu open and from there, 
> click join files.  There's a button which is unlabled and which, when you 
> press it, brings you in to the customary browser window you're used to.  Make 
> your file selections in the usual way.  Now, go all the  way to the right and 
> click open.  BTW, although I think you can add whole folders at a time, I'd 
> personally prefer adding files individually.
> 
> Now, the next thing you want to do is click the join button.  This will cause 
> the files to all be joined together.  You will notice that the beginning 
> point of each file is marked with a marker.  This is so that you can make a 
> new folder if you want to and drop the file all marked up in to it.  In fact, 
> what I do with my personal audio diary is almost exactly this same thing.  I 
> take a bunch of mp3 files that I record with my Olympus LS-14 and join them 
> together and from them, I make a single .m4a file with no markers.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
> 
> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
> iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2016, at 5:55 PM, Jenine Stanley > > wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Ray, 
>> 
>> I do have a question as I just tried to do this. When you drag and drop 
>> files into the area of Amadeus under the join files action, can you drop an 
>> entire folder or must they be dropped individually? 
>> 
>> Further, can you select a bunch of contiguous files then mark them for drag 
>> and drop? I’ve having a lot of difficulty with this one. 
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2016, at 5:35 PM, Ray Foret Jr >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Amadeus Pro would do exactly what you want to do, and that very nicely.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in
>>> 
>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>>> 
>>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
>>> iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>>> 
 On Feb 28, 2016, at 3:49 PM, Alex Hall >>> > wrote:
 
 All,
 I just remembered I have some audio dramas floating around, each as around 
 20 chapters meant to be played gaplessly back to back. Is there a simple 
 way of making them into a single file that iOS, iTunes, and/or Voice Dream 
 would see as a single book? I'd prefer iOS/iTunes to VDR, just because I 
 already have some audio books and don't want to fill VDR's library with a 
 couple gigs of audio. I'm not afraid to do this manually if there's no app 
 for it, and will do so if the only other solution costs a lot. I just 
 don't know how to do it. Thanks in advance for any ideas.
 
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It's finally here, a comprehensive guide to Pages on the Mac with VoiceOver

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi everyone, Anne Robertson is one of the most helpful people on this list, 
particularly when it comes to using Pages. She clearly knows it inside-out.
Last year, I contacted Anne and asked if she and her husband Archie would be 
willing to distill their Pages knowledge into an eBook. They agreed to do this 
and Mosen Consulting has published it today. The book is called "My Mac Pages" 
and contains over 40,000 words of essential info for making the most of the 
application.
You can learn more about the book here .
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Re: a question please

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi: 
Insert the drive to your mac. Find the file you want to copy. Press command c 
to copy. Find your thumb drive on your desktop. Press command o to open it. 
Interact with the table. Press command v to paste.

> On Feb 28, 2016, at 2:14 PM, Junior Lolley KG4ITD  
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> 
> On the Mac how do you send a file to a thumb  drive?
> I appreciate any help.
> 
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Marsedit Creating Headings

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Hi:
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Re: Making MP3 files into some kind of audio book?

[Ray Foret Jr]

Okay.  First, when you want to select files noncontiguously for  you just 
follow the ragular procedure.  Click the sound menu open and from there, click 
join files.  There's a button which is unlabled and which, when you press it, 
brings you in to the customary browser window you're used to.  Make your file 
selections in the usual way.  Now, go all the  way to the right and click open. 
 BTW, although I think you can add whole folders at a time, I'd personally 
prefer adding files individually.

Now, the next thing you want to do is click the join button.  This will cause 
the files to all be joined together.  You will notice that the beginning point 
of each file is marked with a marker.  This is so that you can make a new 
folder if you want to and drop the file all marked up in to it.  In fact, what 
I do with my personal audio diary is almost exactly this same thing.  I take a 
bunch of mp3 files that I record with my Olympus LS-14 and join them together 
and from them, I make a single .m4a file with no markers.


Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

> On Feb 28, 2016, at 5:55 PM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Ray, 
> 
> I do have a question as I just tried to do this. When you drag and drop files 
> into the area of Amadeus under the join files action, can you drop an entire 
> folder or must they be dropped individually? 
> 
> Further, can you select a bunch of contiguous files then mark them for drag 
> and drop? I’ve having a lot of difficulty with this one. 
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2016, at 5:35 PM, Ray Foret Jr > > wrote:
>> 
>> Amadeus Pro would do exactly what you want to do, and that very nicely.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>> 
>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
>> iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2016, at 3:49 PM, Alex Hall >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> All,
>>> I just remembered I have some audio dramas floating around, each as around 
>>> 20 chapters meant to be played gaplessly back to back. Is there a simple 
>>> way of making them into a single file that iOS, iTunes, and/or Voice Dream 
>>> would see as a single book? I'd prefer iOS/iTunes to VDR, just because I 
>>> already have some audio books and don't want to fill VDR's library with a 
>>> couple gigs of audio. I'm not afraid to do this manually if there's no app 
>>> for it, and will do so if the only other solution costs a lot. I just don't 
>>> know how to do it. Thanks in advance for any ideas.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Have a great day,
>>> Alex Hall
>>> mehg...@icloud.com 
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Re: Making MP3 files into some kind of audio book?

[Jenine Stanley]

Thanks Ray, 

I do have a question as I just tried to do this. When you drag and drop files 
into the area of Amadeus under the join files action, can you drop an entire 
folder or must they be dropped individually? 

Further, can you select a bunch of contiguous files then mark them for drag and 
drop? I’ve having a lot of difficulty with this one. 
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



> On Feb 28, 2016, at 5:35 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> Amadeus Pro would do exactly what you want to do, and that very nicely.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
> 
> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
> iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2016, at 3:49 PM, Alex Hall > > wrote:
>> 
>> All,
>> I just remembered I have some audio dramas floating around, each as around 
>> 20 chapters meant to be played gaplessly back to back. Is there a simple way 
>> of making them into a single file that iOS, iTunes, and/or Voice Dream would 
>> see as a single book? I'd prefer iOS/iTunes to VDR, just because I already 
>> have some audio books and don't want to fill VDR's library with a couple 
>> gigs of audio. I'm not afraid to do this manually if there's no app for it, 
>> and will do so if the only other solution costs a lot. I just don't know how 
>> to do it. Thanks in advance for any ideas.
>> 
>> --
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex Hall
>> mehg...@icloud.com 
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Re: Making MP3 files into some kind of audio book?

[Alex Hall]

After one test, I think this app will be exactly what I was looking for when I 
posted my question. It does what it says on the box: takes your files, and 
makes them into an Apple-compatible audio book (M4B file) complete with 
chapters and optional parts. Well worth the $5, assuming it keeps doing well, 
and assuming the outputted books play on iOS how I think they will. Very nice.
> On Feb 28, 2016, at 18:02, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   It should work out if you do not mind the job of building each book the way 
> you want it.  No gotchas in this app. I did not choose to send completed jobs 
> straight into iTunes or even into the Automatically Add folder, I like a bit 
> more control over things.
> 
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> On 2/28/2016 2:44 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>> Thanks, I'm downloading this app now. It looks promising, provided it proves 
>> to be accessible. Any major gotchas I should know going into this?
>>> On Feb 28, 2016, at 17:03, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   I am in the process of converting mine to work with iTunes as well. 
>>> Audiobook Builder by Splasm is $5. I have not really had a chance to check 
>>> out what I did so far but think this will do what you want. The price is 
>>> right too.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 2/28/2016 1:49 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
 All,
 I just remembered I have some audio dramas floating around, each as around 
 20 chapters meant to be played gaplessly back to back. Is there a simple 
 way of making them into a single file that iOS, iTunes, and/or Voice Dream 
 would see as a single book? I'd prefer iOS/iTunes to VDR, just because I 
 already have some audio books and don't want to fill VDR's library with a 
 couple gigs of audio. I'm not afraid to do this manually if there's no app 
 for it, and will do so if the only other solution costs a lot. I just 
 don't know how to do it. Thanks in advance for any ideas.
 
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Re: skype recorder

[Ray Foret Jr]

You might try "call recorder for Skype.  Not in the app store so you'll have to 
Google it.


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> On Feb 28, 2016, at 5:30 PM, Vaughn Brown  wrote:
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> Hello folks,
> 
> I am looking to start podcasting by interviewing musicians. I installe
> Skype and now wanting to hear feedback on a recorder for Skype. I
> heard of one simplied called "Skype Recorder" but wanted to check for
> accessible Skype recordeing software.
> 
> Thank you folks, and have a nice day.
> Vaughn
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skype recorder

[Vaughn Brown]

Hello folks,

I am looking to start podcasting by interviewing musicians. I installe
Skype and now wanting to hear feedback on a recorder for Skype. I
heard of one simplied called "Skype Recorder" but wanted to check for
accessible Skype recordeing software.

Thank you folks, and have a nice day.
Vaughn

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1password for mac

[Marie Lyons]

I don’t know how this happened but I can’t get into the user guide from the 
help menu. I got in yesterday but can’t remember what I did.  Can anyone give 
me step by step instructions?

Marie Lyons

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Re: Making MP3 files into some kind of audio book?

[E.T.]

   It should work out if you do not mind the job of building each book 
the way you want it.  No gotchas in this app. I did not choose to send 
completed jobs straight into iTunes or even into the Automatically Add 
folder, I like a bit more control over things.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/28/2016 2:44 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

Thanks, I'm downloading this app now. It looks promising, provided it proves to 
be accessible. Any major gotchas I should know going into this?

On Feb 28, 2016, at 17:03, E.T.  wrote:

   I am in the process of converting mine to work with iTunes as well. 
Audiobook Builder by Splasm is $5. I have not really had a chance to check out 
what I did so far but think this will do what you want. The price is right too.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/28/2016 1:49 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

All,
I just remembered I have some audio dramas floating around, each as around 20 
chapters meant to be played gaplessly back to back. Is there a simple way of 
making them into a single file that iOS, iTunes, and/or Voice Dream would see 
as a single book? I'd prefer iOS/iTunes to VDR, just because I already have 
some audio books and don't want to fill VDR's library with a couple gigs of 
audio. I'm not afraid to do this manually if there's no app for it, and will do 
so if the only other solution costs a lot. I just don't know how to do it. 
Thanks in advance for any ideas.

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Re: Trillian 3.4 has been released

[Grant]

You do, alas, need a Trillian account. But you can sign up from within the app, 
and if you have multiple devices it’ll sync your accounts between them; so it 
does have some usefulness.

Grant

On Feb 28, 2016, at 1:35 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

I'm trying to remember.  I actually have a friend who wants to get started 
using Trillian, but don't you have to get an account on the Trillion web site?  
I don't remember how that worked, as it's been ages since I set mine up.
 
Chris.

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Re: Making MP3 files into some kind of audio book?

[Alex Hall]

Thanks, I'm downloading this app now. It looks promising, provided it proves to 
be accessible. Any major gotchas I should know going into this?
> On Feb 28, 2016, at 17:03, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   I am in the process of converting mine to work with iTunes as well. 
> Audiobook Builder by Splasm is $5. I have not really had a chance to check 
> out what I did so far but think this will do what you want. The price is 
> right too.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 2/28/2016 1:49 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>> All,
>> I just remembered I have some audio dramas floating around, each as around 
>> 20 chapters meant to be played gaplessly back to back. Is there a simple way 
>> of making them into a single file that iOS, iTunes, and/or Voice Dream would 
>> see as a single book? I'd prefer iOS/iTunes to VDR, just because I already 
>> have some audio books and don't want to fill VDR's library with a couple 
>> gigs of audio. I'm not afraid to do this manually if there's no app for it, 
>> and will do so if the only other solution costs a lot. I just don't know how 
>> to do it. Thanks in advance for any ideas.
>> 
>> --
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex Hall
>> mehg...@icloud.com
>> 
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Re: Making MP3 files into some kind of audio book?

[Alex Hall]

I should have specified that, beyond simply joining the files end to end, I 
want to preserve chapter navigation. Each track in the playlist should be its 
own chapter, ideally. I'd also like to avoid re-encoding these files, as 
they're already MP3, not uncompressed, raw audio.
> On Feb 28, 2016, at 17:35, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> Amadeus Pro would do exactly what you want to do, and that very nicely.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
> 
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> iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2016, at 3:49 PM, Alex Hall > > wrote:
>> 
>> All,
>> I just remembered I have some audio dramas floating around, each as around 
>> 20 chapters meant to be played gaplessly back to back. Is there a simple way 
>> of making them into a single file that iOS, iTunes, and/or Voice Dream would 
>> see as a single book? I'd prefer iOS/iTunes to VDR, just because I already 
>> have some audio books and don't want to fill VDR's library with a couple 
>> gigs of audio. I'm not afraid to do this manually if there's no app for it, 
>> and will do so if the only other solution costs a lot. I just don't know how 
>> to do it. Thanks in advance for any ideas.
>> 
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>> Alex Hall
>> mehg...@icloud.com 
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Re: Making MP3 files into some kind of audio book?

[Ray Foret Jr]

Amadeus Pro would do exactly what you want to do, and that very nicely.


Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

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iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

> On Feb 28, 2016, at 3:49 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> All,
> I just remembered I have some audio dramas floating around, each as around 20 
> chapters meant to be played gaplessly back to back. Is there a simple way of 
> making them into a single file that iOS, iTunes, and/or Voice Dream would see 
> as a single book? I'd prefer iOS/iTunes to VDR, just because I already have 
> some audio books and don't want to fill VDR's library with a couple gigs of 
> audio. I'm not afraid to do this manually if there's no app for it, and will 
> do so if the only other solution costs a lot. I just don't know how to do it. 
> Thanks in advance for any ideas.
> 
> --
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> Alex Hall
> mehg...@icloud.com
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RE: a question please

[Junior Lolley KG4ITD]

Caitlyn, yes it is thanks.


Junior Lolley kg4itd
Liberty County Emergency Coordinator
"The 3 C’s of life: choices, chances, and changes. You must make a choice to 
take a chance or your life will never change."
Don't impress others with what you have; impress them with who you are.


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 4:51 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a question please

Hi,
How I do this is just by copying and then pasting the file.

Go to where the file is, copy it with command c, go to the thumb drive, open 
the drive and then hit command v.

Is this what you were wanting?

Caitlyn

> On Feb 28, 2016, at 3:14 PM, Junior Lolley KG4ITD  
> wrote:
> 
> On the Mac how do you send a file to a thumb  drive?
> I appreciate any help.
> 
> Junior Lolley kg4itd
>   Liberty County Emergency Coordinator
> "The 3 C's of life: choices, chances, and changes. You must make a choice to 
> take a chance or your life will never change."
> Don't impress others with what you have; impress them with who you are.
> 
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Re: Making MP3 files into some kind of audio book?

[E.T.]

   I am in the process of converting mine to work with iTunes as well. 
Audiobook Builder by Splasm is $5. I have not really had a chance to 
check out what I did so far but think this will do what you want. The 
price is right too.


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in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/28/2016 1:49 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

All,
I just remembered I have some audio dramas floating around, each as around 20 
chapters meant to be played gaplessly back to back. Is there a simple way of 
making them into a single file that iOS, iTunes, and/or Voice Dream would see 
as a single book? I'd prefer iOS/iTunes to VDR, just because I already have 
some audio books and don't want to fill VDR's library with a couple gigs of 
audio. I'm not afraid to do this manually if there's no app for it, and will do 
so if the only other solution costs a lot. I just don't know how to do it. 
Thanks in advance for any ideas.

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Re: Making MP3 files into some kind of audio book?

[Jenine Stanley]

that’s exactly what I’m trying to do as well, have these multiple mp3 files 
join into 1 larger file that can be played as the book it is. Can’t wait to see 
if this can be done easily. 

I was looking at joining the files using Amadeus Pro and may still do that 
but...
Jenine Stanley
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> On Feb 28, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> All,
> I just remembered I have some audio dramas floating around, each as around 20 
> chapters meant to be played gaplessly back to back. Is there a simple way of 
> making them into a single file that iOS, iTunes, and/or Voice Dream would see 
> as a single book? I'd prefer iOS/iTunes to VDR, just because I already have 
> some audio books and don't want to fill VDR's library with a couple gigs of 
> audio. I'm not afraid to do this manually if there's no app for it, and will 
> do so if the only other solution costs a lot. I just don't know how to do it. 
> Thanks in advance for any ideas.
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Re: a question please

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi,
How I do this is just by copying and then pasting the file.

Go to where the file is, copy it with command c, go to the thumb drive, open 
the drive and then hit command v.

Is this what you were wanting?

Caitlyn

> On Feb 28, 2016, at 3:14 PM, Junior Lolley KG4ITD  
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> On the Mac how do you send a file to a thumb  drive?
> I appreciate any help.
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Making MP3 files into some kind of audio book?

[Alex Hall]

All,
I just remembered I have some audio dramas floating around, each as around 20 
chapters meant to be played gaplessly back to back. Is there a simple way of 
making them into a single file that iOS, iTunes, and/or Voice Dream would see 
as a single book? I'd prefer iOS/iTunes to VDR, just because I already have 
some audio books and don't want to fill VDR's library with a couple gigs of 
audio. I'm not afraid to do this manually if there's no app for it, and will do 
so if the only other solution costs a lot. I just don't know how to do it. 
Thanks in advance for any ideas.

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mehg...@icloud.com

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Re: Trillian 3.4 has been released

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I'm trying to remember.  I actually have a friend who wants to get started 
using Trillian, but don't you have to get an account on the Trillion web site?  
I don't remember how that worked, as it's been ages since I set mine up.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Grant 
  To: MacVisionaries List 
  Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 4:31 PM
  Subject: Trillian 3.4 has been released


  Trillian 3.4 is now available directly from the Mac App Store and it looks 
like accessibility has been completely restored. From my perspective as a 
VoiceOver user, it “looks” and works very similarly to the last accessible 
version of Trillain. I haven’t seen this mentioned on list yet, so thought I’d 
throw it out there!


  Here’s a direct link: 
https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/trillian/id412056820?mt=12


  Looks like this is one of the few accessible apps left for using Facebook 
Chat.


  Best,


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Converting files formerly on a CD into 1 file for playback

[Jenine Stanley]

I have several folders of files ripped from CDs, prior to my Mac usage. I’d 
love to put them together into one file per folder. They are sections of books. 
Anyone have a fairly easy way to do this? I’ve read several explanations 
involving itunes and am baffled. 

Thanks.
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Trillian 3.4 has been released

[Grant]

Trillian 3.4 is now available directly from the Mac App Store and it looks like 
accessibility has been completely restored. From my perspective as a VoiceOver 
user, it “looks” and works very similarly to the last accessible version of 
Trillain. I haven’t seen this mentioned on list yet, so thought I’d throw it 
out there!

Here’s a direct link: https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/trillian/id412056820?mt=12

Looks like this is one of the few accessible apps left for using Facebook Chat.

Best,

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Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

[Kevin Chao]

Please join axs-chrome-discuss:
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!forum/axs-chrome-discuss

On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 12:42 PM  wrote:

> How would one join the developer channel?
>
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> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 12:39 PM -0800, "Kevin Chao" <
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> ChromeVox Next (cvox2) is under active development. It's available as
>> opt-in preview in Developer channel.
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 12:18 PM Christopher-Mark Gilland <
>> clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> God!  I've not even used Chromevox in ages!  Is that bear still being
>>> developed?
>>>
>>> Chris.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> *From:* Kevin Chao 
>>> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, February 28, 2016 2:42 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: alternative email programs on the mac?
>>>
>>> I also use ChromeVox and would recommend re-installing it to solve this
>>> wrapping issue. Have you tried with VoiceOver?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 11:05 AM  wrote:
>>>
 I try Chrome a lot, but Chromevox always makes the "wrapping to top"
 sound. It keeps doing it for however long Chrome is open, so I can't do
 anything with it except force quit it.

 Sent from Outlook Mobile .
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 kevincha...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Mac Chrome Canary can be found here:
> https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/canary.html?platform=mac
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:55 AM Kevin Chao 
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>> Canary build of Chrome fixed regressions with text fields introduced
>> by El Capitan. I can't recall last time I've seen VoiceOver go busy in
>> Chrome.
>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries <
>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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>>> Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> > I wonder if one could compile and use alpine on the mac.
>>>
>>>
>>> You should be able to compile it or even install it from one of the
>>> packaging
>>> systems that offers free/open-source software for OS X.
>>>
>>> > I guess its possible but the question is if voiceover will work
>>> with that.
>>>
>>>
>>> It will work, but VoiceOver in the terminal application isn't good.
>>> It's no
>>> match for BRLTTY, Emacspeak or Speakup under Linux, for instance.
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RE: a question please

[Junior Lolley KG4ITD]

Ray, thanks very much.


Junior Lolley kg4itd
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take a chance or your life will never change."
Don't impress others with what you have; impress them with who you are.



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 3:26 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a question please

1.  Focus on the file you want to send over.

2.  Now, press CMD+c to copy.

3.  Now, navigate to the drive you want to send it to.

4.  Now, either press CMD+v to copy or else CMD+OPT+v to move the file.

HTH.


Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in


Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!


On Feb 28, 2016, at 2:14 PM, Junior Lolley KG4ITD 
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On the Mac how do you send a file to a thumb  drive?
I appreciate any help.

Junior Lolley kg4itd
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choice to take a chance or your life will never change."
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Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

[Kevin Chao]

A11y NYC - Google Chrome Accessibility. Check out this video on YouTube:

http://youtu.be/yaViTNhBbrM

On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 12:23 PM  wrote:

> Shoot, I don't know if it is nowadays or not. I've not seen any news about
> it. And I've reinstalled Chrome a time or three, and Chromevox still winds
> up doing the wrap to top noise all the time.
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>
>
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 12:18 PM -0800, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" <
> clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> God!  I've not even used Chromevox in ages!  Is that bear still being
>> developed?
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Kevin Chao 
>> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> *Sent:* Sunday, February 28, 2016 2:42 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: alternative email programs on the mac?
>>
>> I also use ChromeVox and would recommend re-installing it to solve this
>> wrapping issue. Have you tried with VoiceOver?
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 11:05 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> I try Chrome a lot, but Chromevox always makes the "wrapping to top"
>>> sound. It keeps doing it for however long Chrome is open, so I can't do
>>> anything with it except force quit it.
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 11:01 AM -0800, "Kevin Chao" <
>>> kevincha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Mac Chrome Canary can be found here:
 https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/canary.html?platform=mac
 On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:55 AM Kevin Chao 
 wrote:

> Canary build of Chrome fixed regressions with text fields introduced
> by El Capitan. I can't recall last time I've seen VoiceOver go busy in
> Chrome.
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries <
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> > I wonder if one could compile and use alpine on the mac.
>>
>>
>> You should be able to compile it or even install it from one of the
>> packaging
>> systems that offers free/open-source software for OS X.
>>
>> > I guess its possible but the question is if voiceover will work
>> with that.
>>
>>
>> It will work, but VoiceOver in the terminal application isn't good.
>> It's no
>> match for BRLTTY, Emacspeak or Speakup under Linux, for instance.
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Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

[d . prater]

How would one join the developer channel?

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On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 12:39 PM -0800, "Kevin Chao"  
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ChromeVox Next (cvox2) is under active development. It's available as opt-in 
preview in Developer channel. 
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 12:18 PM Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:







God!  I've not even used Chromevox in 
ages!  Is that bear still being developed?
 
Chris.
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kevin 
  Chao 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  
  Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 2:42 
  PM
  Subject: Re: alternative email programs 
  on the mac?
  

  I also use ChromeVox and would recommend 
  re-installing it to solve this wrapping issue. Have you tried with VoiceOver? 
  

  
  On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 11:05 AM  wrote:

  

I try Chrome a lot, but Chromevox always makes the "wrapping to top" 
sound. It keeps doing it for however long Chrome is open, so I can't do 
anything with it except force quit it.


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  Mac Chrome Canary can be found here: 
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  On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:55 AM Kevin Chao  wrote:

  Canary build of Chrome fixed regressions with text 
fields introduced by El Capitan. I can't recall last time I've seen 
VoiceOver go busy in Chrome. 


On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM 'Jason White' via 
MacVisionaries  wrote:

Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> I wonder if 
  one could compile and use alpine on the mac.


You should be 
  able to compile it or even install it from one of the 
  packaging
systems that offers free/open-source software for OS 
  X.

> I guess its possible but the question is if voiceover 
  will work with that.


It will work, but VoiceOver in the 
  terminal application isn't good. It's no
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Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

[Kevin Chao]

ChromeVox Next (cvox2) is under active development. It's available as
opt-in preview in Developer channel.

On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 12:18 PM Christopher-Mark Gilland <
clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> God!  I've not even used Chromevox in ages!  Is that bear still being
> developed?
>
> Chris.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Kevin Chao 
> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 28, 2016 2:42 PM
> *Subject:* Re: alternative email programs on the mac?
>
> I also use ChromeVox and would recommend re-installing it to solve this
> wrapping issue. Have you tried with VoiceOver?
>
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 11:05 AM  wrote:
>
>> I try Chrome a lot, but Chromevox always makes the "wrapping to top"
>> sound. It keeps doing it for however long Chrome is open, so I can't do
>> anything with it except force quit it.
>>
>> Sent from Outlook Mobile .
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>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 11:01 AM -0800, "Kevin Chao" <
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>> Mac Chrome Canary can be found here:
>>> https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/canary.html?platform=mac
>>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:55 AM Kevin Chao 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Canary build of Chrome fixed regressions with text fields introduced by
 El Capitan. I can't recall last time I've seen VoiceOver go busy in Chrome.
 On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries <
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> > I wonder if one could compile and use alpine on the mac.
>
>
> You should be able to compile it or even install it from one of the
> packaging
> systems that offers free/open-source software for OS X.
>
> > I guess its possible but the question is if voiceover will work with
> that.
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> It will work, but VoiceOver in the terminal application isn't good.
> It's no
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Re: a question please

[Ray Foret Jr]

1.  Focus on the file you want to send over.

2.  Now, press CMD+c to copy.

3.  Now, navigate to the drive you want to send it to.

4.  Now, either press CMD+v to copy or else CMD+OPT+v to move the file.

HTH.


Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

> On Feb 28, 2016, at 2:14 PM, Junior Lolley KG4ITD  
> wrote:
> 
> On the Mac how do you send a file to a thumb  drive?
> I appreciate any help.
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Re: Unable to hear FaceTime calls on a Mac Pro

[Carter Temm]

Hi,This may work, or it may not, but its worth a go.
So, go to FaceTime, and when they are in the call, go to the video menu in the 
menu bar. Make sure the input and output devices and volumes are set correctly.
> On Feb 28, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
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> I have a friend who has to use her computer to answer calls made to her 
> iPhone. The computer is set up to do this and sometimes it works fine. It has 
> been problematic for several weeks now. The iPhone is nearby, but when she 
> answers the iPhone with the Mac she can not hear the caller. Callers can hear 
> her with no difficulty.
> 
> She uses a set of EarPods on the Mac, and they work fine for other things and 
> when used with the iPhone. In system preferences all looks as it should with 
> nothing muted and volume is not zeroed. I can’t figure out what happens to 
> cause this behavior and how to correct it when it occurs. It seemed to fix 
> itself the first time it happened, but not this time. She has severe physical 
> disabilities so this is a very necessary thing for her. If she is using the 
> computer, she cannot use the iPhone. Both the phone settings and the mac 
> settings appear fine. She is signed in through her Gmail address, obviously 
> since she can actually answer the calls, but not hear them.
> 
> Any info would be appreciated.
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Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

[d . prater]

Shoot, I don't know if it is nowadays or not. I've not seen any news about it. 
And I've reinstalled Chrome a time or three, and Chromevox still winds up doing 
the wrap to top noise all the time.

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On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 12:18 PM -0800, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
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God!  I've not even used Chromevox in 
ages!  Is that bear still being developed?
 
Chris.
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kevin 
  Chao 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  
  Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 2:42 
  PM
  Subject: Re: alternative email programs 
  on the mac?
  

  I also use ChromeVox and would recommend 
  re-installing it to solve this wrapping issue. Have you tried with VoiceOver? 
  

  
  On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 11:05 AM  wrote:

  

I try Chrome a lot, but Chromevox always makes the "wrapping to top" 
sound. It keeps doing it for however long Chrome is open, so I can't do 
anything with it except force quit it.


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  Mac Chrome Canary can be found here: 
https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/canary.html?platform=mac

  
  On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:55 AM Kevin Chao  wrote:

  Canary build of Chrome fixed regressions with text 
fields introduced by El Capitan. I can't recall last time I've seen 
VoiceOver go busy in Chrome. 


On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM 'Jason White' via 
MacVisionaries  wrote:

Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> I wonder if 
  one could compile and use alpine on the mac.


You should be 
  able to compile it or even install it from one of the 
  packaging
systems that offers free/open-source software for OS 
  X.

> I guess its possible but the question is if voiceover 
  will work with that.


It will work, but VoiceOver in the 
  terminal application isn't good. It's no
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Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

God!  I've not even used Chromevox in ages!  Is that bear still being developed?

Chris.

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  Subject: Re: alternative email programs on the mac?


  I also use ChromeVox and would recommend re-installing it to solve this 
wrapping issue. Have you tried with VoiceOver? 


  On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 11:05 AM  wrote:

I try Chrome a lot, but Chromevox always makes the "wrapping to top" sound. 
It keeps doing it for however long Chrome is open, so I can't do anything with 
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  Mac Chrome Canary can be found here: 
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  On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:55 AM Kevin Chao  wrote:

Canary build of Chrome fixed regressions with text fields introduced by 
El Capitan. I can't recall last time I've seen VoiceOver go busy in Chrome. 

On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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  Anders Holmberg  wrote:
  > I wonder if one could compile and use alpine on the mac.


  You should be able to compile it or even install it from one of the 
packaging
  systems that offers free/open-source software for OS X.

  > I guess its possible but the question is if voiceover will work 
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  It will work, but VoiceOver in the terminal application isn't good. 
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Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

What do you  mean how is it?  You mean, how accessible is it?

I'd assume it would work to some extent.  Correct me though if I'm wrong on 
this, and I hate to get off topic on more a Unix/Linux discussion, as we're 
kind of treading on to some grey area here, as this is! mac related, kind a 
sort a, but not exactly.  Anyway, I thought Alpine, be it on the mac, or in 
Linux, either way, would only receive mail, and not send mail.  I thought to 
send mail, you'd need something like exim, or sendmail, or the like also to 
gbe installed.  Am I not correct on this?  Plus, wouldn't you need there to 
be some way for the mac to see your .fetchmailrc file, and correctly parse 
it?


Chris.

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how is that with voice over al pine?

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a question please

[Junior Lolley KG4ITD]

On the Mac how do you send a file to a thumb  drive?
I appreciate any help.

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Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Well, yeah?  10 bucks a month for Office 365, for installs on up to 5 
computers.  Frankly, I find that bigtime worth it as aposed to paying, like, 
what... 7 or 800 bucks outright for the whole MS Office suite?  Trust me.  10 
bucks is a darn good deal!

Chris.

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  Subject: Re: alternative email programs on the mac?


  Yeah, but you have to pay for it don't you?


  Sent from Outlook Mobile.
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  On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 11:10 AM -0800,  wrote:


One of the alternative mail app that I am aware of is Microsoft Outlook 
which comes with all the rest of Office sweets. It seems like Microsoft is 
finally focusing on accessibility. I am not quite sure about other apps 
elsewhere. 

Sent from my iPhone

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  On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:55 AM Kevin Chao  wrote:

Canary build of Chrome fixed regressions with text fields introduced by 
El Capitan. I can't recall last time I've seen VoiceOver go busy in Chrome. 

On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

  Anders Holmberg  wrote:
  > I wonder if one could compile and use alpine on the mac.


  You should be able to compile it or even install it from one of the 
packaging
  systems that offers free/open-source software for OS X.

  > I guess its possible but the question is if voiceover will work 
with that.


  It will work, but VoiceOver in the terminal application isn't good. 
It's no
  match for BRLTTY, Emacspeak or Speakup under Linux, for instance.

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Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Outlook does work very very well on the mac.  The only problem with it that I 
have is that it doesn't integrade with your ICloud calendar, notes, nor 
contacts.  So, this means, you'll have to basically start building your 
calendar, your contacts, etc. all over again from scratch.  Oh, and good luck 
getting them to sync down to your I O S mobile devices, unless there's 
something I'm not aware of, which is incredibly highly likely.

Chris.

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  Subject: Re: alternative email programs on the mac?


  One of the alternative mail app that I am aware of is Microsoft Outlook which 
comes with all the rest of Office sweets. It seems like Microsoft is finally 
focusing on accessibility. I am not quite sure about other apps elsewhere. 

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Feb 28, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Kevin Chao  wrote:


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On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:55 AM Kevin Chao  wrote:

  Canary build of Chrome fixed regressions with text fields introduced by 
El Capitan. I can't recall last time I've seen VoiceOver go busy in Chrome. 

  On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> I wonder if one could compile and use alpine on the mac.


You should be able to compile it or even install it from one of the 
packaging
systems that offers free/open-source software for OS X.

> I guess its possible but the question is if voiceover will work with 
that.


It will work, but VoiceOver in the terminal application isn't good. 
It's no
match for BRLTTY, Emacspeak or Speakup under Linux, for instance.

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Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Nor can I recall ever seeing text fields not being announced as said before.

Chris.

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  Subject: Re: alternative email programs on the mac?


  Canary build of Chrome fixed regressions with text fields introduced by El 
Capitan. I can't recall last time I've seen VoiceOver go busy in Chrome. 

  On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> I wonder if one could compile and use alpine on the mac.


You should be able to compile it or even install it from one of the 
packaging
systems that offers free/open-source software for OS X.

> I guess its possible but the question is if voiceover will work with that.


It will work, but VoiceOver in the terminal application isn't good. It's no
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Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Geez!  If you're gonna go that route, why not just use Mutt!  Now let's go 
wa! back in the machine days.  LOL!


Chris.

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Subject: Re: alternative email programs on the mac?



Anders Holmberg  wrote:

I wonder if one could compile and use alpine on the mac.



You should be able to compile it or even install it from one of the 
packaging

systems that offers free/open-source software for OS X.

I guess its possible but the question is if voiceover will work with 
that.



It will work, but VoiceOver in the terminal application isn't good. It's 
no

match for BRLTTY, Emacspeak or Speakup under Linux, for instance.

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Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

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Andrers wrote:

If Voiceover would announce text fields and such in chrome it would be even 
better.

I'm not exactly sure I follow.  On my end, Voiceover tells me when I hit a text 
field in Chrome, so I'm not really sure where you're getting that that doesn't 
work.

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Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

[Kevin Chao]

I also use ChromeVox and would recommend re-installing it to solve this
wrapping issue. Have you tried with VoiceOver?

On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 11:05 AM  wrote:

> I try Chrome a lot, but Chromevox always makes the "wrapping to top"
> sound. It keeps doing it for however long Chrome is open, so I can't do
> anything with it except force quit it.
>
> Sent from Outlook Mobile .
> Devin Prater
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>
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 11:01 AM -0800, "Kevin Chao" <
> kevincha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Mac Chrome Canary can be found here:
>> https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/canary.html?platform=mac
>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:55 AM Kevin Chao 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Canary build of Chrome fixed regressions with text fields introduced by
>>> El Capitan. I can't recall last time I've seen VoiceOver go busy in Chrome.
>>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries <
>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 > I wonder if one could compile and use alpine on the mac.


 You should be able to compile it or even install it from one of the
 packaging
 systems that offers free/open-source software for OS X.

 > I guess its possible but the question is if voiceover will work with
 that.


 It will work, but VoiceOver in the terminal application isn't good.
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Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

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how is that with voice over al pine?

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Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

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Yeah, but you have to pay for it don't you?

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One of the alternative mail app that I am aware of is Microsoft Outlook which 
comes with all the rest of Office sweets. It seems like Microsoft is finally 
focusing on accessibility. I am not quite sure about other apps elsewhere. 

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Capitan. I can't recall last time I've seen VoiceOver go busy in Chrome. 
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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Anders Holmberg  wrote:

> I wonder if one could compile and use alpine on the mac.





You should be able to compile it or even install it from one of the packaging

systems that offers free/open-source software for OS X.



> I guess its possible but the question is if voiceover will work with that.





It will work, but VoiceOver in the terminal application isn't good. It's no

match for BRLTTY, Emacspeak or Speakup under Linux, for instance.



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Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

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One of the alternative mail app that I am aware of is Microsoft Outlook which 
comes with all the rest of Office sweets. It seems like Microsoft is finally 
focusing on accessibility. I am not quite sure about other apps elsewhere. 

Sent from my iPhone

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>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:55 AM Kevin Chao  wrote:
>> Canary build of Chrome fixed regressions with text fields introduced by El 
>> Capitan. I can't recall last time I've seen VoiceOver go busy in Chrome. 
>>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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>>> Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> > I wonder if one could compile and use alpine on the mac.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You should be able to compile it or even install it from one of the 
>>> packaging
>>> systems that offers free/open-source software for OS X.
>>> 
>>> > I guess its possible but the question is if voiceover will work with that.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It will work, but VoiceOver in the terminal application isn't good. It's no
>>> match for BRLTTY, Emacspeak or Speakup under Linux, for instance.
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Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

[d . prater]

I try Chrome a lot, but Chromevox always makes the "wrapping to top" sound. It 
keeps doing it for however long Chrome is open, so I can't do anything with it 
except force quit it.

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Capitan. I can't recall last time I've seen VoiceOver go busy in Chrome. 
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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Anders Holmberg  wrote:

> I wonder if one could compile and use alpine on the mac.





You should be able to compile it or even install it from one of the packaging

systems that offers free/open-source software for OS X.



> I guess its possible but the question is if voiceover will work with that.





It will work, but VoiceOver in the terminal application isn't good. It's no

match for BRLTTY, Emacspeak or Speakup under Linux, for instance.



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Re: attn Kevin, I believe I've found another chrome accessibility bug.

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On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 5:03 PM Kevin Chao  wrote:

> Thanks Erik!
> This has been fixed in the Canary channel of Chrome, so should be
> available in Stable Production at some point soonish.
> It's possible to have Chrome Canary installed along side stable production
> channel.
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 11:00 AM erik burggraaf 
> wrote:
>
>> Maybe an update fixes my issues with chrome and voiceover since I'm
>> running 10.10, though I'm reluctant as by all reports, it breaks safari
>> even more.  So, I'm still on 10.10 here and maybe that makes a difference.
>>
>> Please visit this link.
>> http://chrishofstader.com/stop-the-ada-trolls/
>>
>> Or this one where I first noticed it.
>>
>> http://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/iv-human-rights-issues-all-stages-employment/5-interviewing-and-making-hiring-decisions
>>
>> Or try it out on your own article.
>>
>> Find the top of the content and press control option A to start reading
>> with voiceover.  When a heading, list, or other formatting comes up,
>> voiceover will stop reading and announce, "chrome busy.
>> press command f5 to turn voiceover off then command f5 again to turn
>> voiceover on.
>> It turns out chrome is actually doing just fine and you can continue
>> reading from where you left off, but the next major formatting change will
>> render voiceover speechless except for a spurious chrome busy message.
>> Navigating block by block with control option left and right or quicknav
>> does not produce this behavior.  It only happens when reading continuously
>> with control option A.
>>
>> Any one else replecate this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Erik Burggraaf
>>
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Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

[jeff `greene]

Hi Kevin, I'll have to give that a try! The biggest problem I have
with mac mail is if I try to go back to the first email in the list,
and it has a coniption fit of busies.
Thanks, Jeff


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>> Canary build of Chrome fixed regressions with text fields introduced by
>> El
>> Capitan. I can't recall last time I've seen VoiceOver go busy in Chrome.
>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries <
>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>> packaging
>>> systems that offers free/open-source software for OS X.
>>>
>>> > I guess its possible but the question is if voiceover will work with
>>> that.
>>>
>>>
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>>> no
>>> match for BRLTTY, Emacspeak or Speakup under Linux, for instance.
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Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

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On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:55 AM Kevin Chao  wrote:

> Canary build of Chrome fixed regressions with text fields introduced by El
> Capitan. I can't recall last time I've seen VoiceOver go busy in Chrome.
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries <
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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>>
>>
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>>
>> > I guess its possible but the question is if voiceover will work with
>> that.
>>
>>
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Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

[Kevin Chao]

Canary build of Chrome fixed regressions with text fields introduced by El
Capitan. I can't recall last time I've seen VoiceOver go busy in Chrome.
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries <
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> Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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>
>
> You should be able to compile it or even install it from one of the
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>
> > I guess its possible but the question is if voiceover will work with
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Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> I wonder if one could compile and use alpine on the mac.


You should be able to compile it or even install it from one of the packaging
systems that offers free/open-source software for OS X.

> I guess its possible but the question is if voiceover will work with that.


It will work, but VoiceOver in the terminal application isn't good. It's no
match for BRLTTY, Emacspeak or Speakup under Linux, for instance.

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Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
If Voiceover would announce text fields and such in chrome it would be even 
better.
/A
> On 28 Feb 2016, at 17:12, Kevin Chao  wrote:
> 
> I use gmail.com  and inbox.google.com 
> . The keyboard shortcuts make it really efficient 
> and usable. 
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 7:41 AM jeff `greene  > wrote:
> Hi, I've asked this question twice from my mac but never got an answer
> so I'm not sure if mac mail actually sent the message. Well anyway...
> I'm getting really tired of mail.app on the mac. I often get busy
> messages or messages that an email can't be sent. I'm wondering if
> anybody has used other email programs on the mac and what their
> experiences were like? I found one in the app store called cloudmagic
> email that got 4stars in customer reviews, but its $19.95 so I'm
> hesitant to hit the buy button. Has anybody used this program?
> Thanks, Jeff
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Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I saw it to but never bought it.
I don’t think there are much alternatives to the mail app sadly.
I wonder if one could compile and use alpine on the mac.
I guess its possible but the question is if voiceover will work with that.
/A
> On 28 Feb 2016, at 16:41, jeff `greene  wrote:
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> Hi, I've asked this question twice from my mac but never got an answer
> so I'm not sure if mac mail actually sent the message. Well anyway...
> I'm getting really tired of mail.app on the mac. I often get busy
> messages or messages that an email can't be sent. I'm wondering if
> anybody has used other email programs on the mac and what their
> experiences were like? I found one in the app store called cloudmagic
> email that got 4stars in customer reviews, but its $19.95 so I'm
> hesitant to hit the buy button. Has anybody used this program?
> Thanks, Jeff
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Unable to hear FaceTime calls on a Mac Pro

[Kristeen Hughes]

I have a friend who has to use her computer to answer calls made to her iPhone. 
The computer is set up to do this and sometimes it works fine. It has been 
problematic for several weeks now. The iPhone is nearby, but when she answers 
the iPhone with the Mac she can not hear the caller. Callers can hear her with 
no difficulty.

She uses a set of EarPods on the Mac, and they work fine for other things and 
when used with the iPhone. In system preferences all looks as it should with 
nothing muted and volume is not zeroed. I can’t figure out what happens to 
cause this behavior and how to correct it when it occurs. It seemed to fix 
itself the first time it happened, but not this time. She has severe physical 
disabilities so this is a very necessary thing for her. If she is using the 
computer, she cannot use the iPhone. Both the phone settings and the mac 
settings appear fine. She is signed in through her Gmail address, obviously 
since she can actually answer the calls, but not hear them.

Any info would be appreciated.

Kristeen
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RE: num padis locked

[Tony]

How do I turn off Smart Quotes, how did it get turned on, and what is that for 
anyway? 

Thanks again.

Tony

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Bill Dengler
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 2:50 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: num padis locked

 

Smart quotes are on. Turn those off and try again.

 

Bill

On Feb 26, 2016, at 5:40 PM, Tony  wrote:

 

The error says that the value “true” in the second line is not a valid bullion 
value, if that helps. 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 5:28 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: num padis locked

 

Hey there Bill,

I found the file and typed in the 2 lines just as you put them, and when I 
started up the virtual machine, I got an error that said something about “ not 
a vallid bullion command” or something like that. Canyou please double-check 
that and let me know if I need to make any changes.

Thanks.

Tony 

 

From:   
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[  
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Dengler
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 7:54 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Re: num padis locked

 

No.

You need to modify the VM so that the keyboard can be connected to it directly.

Here’s how : 

Locate your VM bundle. Typically, it’s located in a subfolder of Documents 
which is in your home folder.

right click (VO+shift+m), show package contents.

Open the "your-machine-name.vmx" file in a text editor (textEdit is included on 
OS X but any editor will work).

Add the following two lines to the bottom of the file : 

 

usb.generic.allowHID = "TRUE"

usb.generic.allowLastHID = "TRUE"

 

Save the file (command+s) and close it.

Reopen VMWare and start up your VM. Then click the "show settings" button.

Go to USB and your keyboard will be listed in the table. Check the checkbox and 
click OK to confirm.

Now, the external keyboard will control the VM, and the internal keyboard will 
control the host system. This means you can use both systems simultaneously and 
have full keyboard support on Windows! I use an external windows-style 
mechanical keyboard with my Mac, so can use typical Windows key 
commands/placements.

 

Bill

P.S. VMWare Fusion has been abandoned. I’m still using it at the moment, but I 
wouldn’t suggest it for new or mission critical systems. Still looking for a 
better accessible hypervisor for the Mac, haven’t found a replacement yet.

 

On Feb 25, 2016, at 7:37 PM, Tony <  
ts_...@verizon.net> wrote:

 

I’m using VMWare Fusion 8.1. Do you mean I should disconnect the keyboard and 
reconnect it when I am in Windows? Thanks for your help.

 

From:   
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[  
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Dengler
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 7:33 PM
To:   macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: num padis locked

 

You need to connect the keyboard directly to the VM.

What virtualization software are you using?

 

Bill

On Feb 25, 2016, at 6:06 PM, Tony <  
ts_...@verizon.net> wrote:

 

Hey All,

Please keep  in mind that I’m new to the mac world. I have a full size Apple 
keyboard that I have connected to a macbook pro, on which I have created a 
virtual machine, where I installed Windows 7 with jaws 14. I’m not sure how, 
but the num pad is locked, and I can’t figure out how to get it back. I tried 
hitting the numlock, but nothing but a tink sound when I try to navigate. 

Any help is always much appreciated.

 

Tony Santiago

  ts_...@verizon.net

 

 

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Re: VMware Fusion

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Then i guess i need that for Orca too.
Thanks anyway for clearing this out.
/A
> On 28 Feb 2016, at 01:25, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> You need either an insert key or a caps lock key to act as the modifier key 
> for the Jaws  or NVDA screen readers on the window side. There is no insert 
> key on a Mac keyboard other than the full-sized one, and due to some internal 
> circumstances the caps lock key is not passed through to the VM by fusion. 
> Therefore you need to set some key, Often the grave accent key because it is 
> so rarely used, to act as either an insert or a caps lock key. Then you use 
> that key as you would the insert key when operating Jaws or NVDA.
> I hope that's a little more clear.
> 
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
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> 
> On Feb 27, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>> Ok, so why is this needed?
>> I don’t get the hang of it.
>> /A
>>> On 27 Feb 2016, at 15:08, Carter Temm >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> On af full-sized keyboard, this is not needed. But as the mac doesn’t have 
>>> an insert key, you will have to reMap it. For example I use the ` key as 
>>> mine, but you can choose to use different keys. To do this, go in to the 
>>> vmware preferences, then Keyboard & Mouse button, then select Keymappings. 
>>> Now interact with the table and make the changes you think are necessary.
 On Feb 27, 2016, at 2:39 AM, Anders Holmberg >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi!
 There is one thing i haven’t understood really.
 There is this talk about remapping the insert key?
 Why is this needed?
 Do i have to do this when using a full sized keyboard?
 /A
> On 27 Feb 2016, at 07:15, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
> 
> At this point I don’t believe anyone really knows.
>  
> As for fusion on your MBA yeah sure it can be done without an issue, but 
> you have to make sure you have the resources for it, I personally don’t 
> think 128 GB is big enough for a mac os and vm of windows, but that is my 
> personal thought.
>  
> But then my MBA 11 inch has been custom built with full features of 
> everything.
>  
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
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> ] On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber
> Sent: Saturday, 27 February 2016 4:39 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> 
> Subject: Re: VMware Fusion
>  
> Hi all! Are you saying that there is not goint to be anymore VM ware 
> fusion? I'm thinking in doing VM fusion on my Mac on the summer in ordr 
> to use my Windows and my Voiceover  at  the same time!! Would that work 
> with my Macbook Air 11 inches? Just owndring!! I currently have the new 
> OS 10 update!  I look forward in hearing form you soon. Thanks and God 
> bless!
> 
> Helga Schreiber 
>  
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of 
> Blind Students.
> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
> Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
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> Skype: helga.schreiber26 
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> px 
> INT Website: http://int4life.com/  
>  
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that 
> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 
> 3:16 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
> On Feb 26, 2016, at 10:02 PM, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
> 
> Hell yes especially if it will make life easier when installing a v box 
> vm 
> 
> And the terminal is always a great learning curve.
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Carter Temm
> Sent: Saturday, 27 February 2016 12:35 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> 
> Subject: Re: VMware Fusion
> 
> Hi,
> Thanks for bringing this up. I was going to write a guide or tutorial if 
> you all want, on how to build a VM with virtual box on mac. It is a task 
> that is not going to be described as easy, but if your an advanced user 
> and feel comfortable with using the terminal, it will work fine. Let me 
> know if anyone would be interested in such tutorial.
> 
> On Feb 26, 2016, at 5:28 PM, E.T.  

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

[Blee Blat]

Do you use chrome for everything or just mail? Safari it seems is just as busy 
here as the mail app is sometimes though I have found keeping mailboxes 
uncluttered makes it less busy. The same goes for browser history and caches. 
If I keep the browser history clear and clear out the browser cache regularly 
then I find Safari is less busy. What's worth using in Chrome? The interface 
looked a bit odd when I last checked it.

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Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

[Kevin Chao]

Yes, in Chrome, but all in browser
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 8:40 AM jeff `greene  wrote:

> Hi Kevin, So you do all your email on safari? Avoiding mac mail all
> together?
> Jeff
>
> On 2/28/16, Kevin Chao  wrote:
> > I use gmail.com and inbox.google.com. The keyboard shortcuts make it
> really
> > efficient and usable.
> > On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 7:41 AM jeff `greene 
> wrote:
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> >> Hi, I've asked this question twice from my mac but never got an answer
> >> so I'm not sure if mac mail actually sent the message. Well anyway...
> >> I'm getting really tired of mail.app on the mac. I often get busy
> >> messages or messages that an email can't be sent. I'm wondering if
> >> anybody has used other email programs on the mac and what their
> >> experiences were like? I found one in the app store called cloudmagic
> >> email that got 4stars in customer reviews, but its $19.95 so I'm
> >> hesitant to hit the buy button. Has anybody used this program?
> >> Thanks, Jeff
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Re: Apple tV 4th gen remote

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

That got it! Thanks
> On Feb 27, 2016, at 12:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>  wrote:
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> Sarai,
> 
> To the best of my understanding, while the movie is playing, I think you can 
> flick left with one finger to rewind, or flick right with one finger to fast 
> forward.  If you flick down with one finger, you'll open up the video options 
> menu.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Sarai Bucciarelli" 
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> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 1:20 PM
> Subject: Apple tV 4th gen remote
> 
> 
> Hi:
> How do you rewind and fastforward in Netflix using the siri remote’s trackpad?
> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
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Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

[jeff `greene]

Hi Kevin, So you do all your email on safari? Avoiding mac mail all together?
Jeff

On 2/28/16, Kevin Chao  wrote:
> I use gmail.com and inbox.google.com. The keyboard shortcuts make it really
> efficient and usable.
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 7:41 AM jeff `greene  wrote:
>
>> Hi, I've asked this question twice from my mac but never got an answer
>> so I'm not sure if mac mail actually sent the message. Well anyway...
>> I'm getting really tired of mail.app on the mac. I often get busy
>> messages or messages that an email can't be sent. I'm wondering if
>> anybody has used other email programs on the mac and what their
>> experiences were like? I found one in the app store called cloudmagic
>> email that got 4stars in customer reviews, but its $19.95 so I'm
>> hesitant to hit the buy button. Has anybody used this program?
>> Thanks, Jeff
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Re: VMware Fusion

[Matthew Dyer]

Hi,

I have a usb keyboard with a number pad and I use it do to the fact that
I am using fedora in a vm and often need to use flat review.

Matthew



On 02/27/2016 07:25 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
> You need either an insert key or a caps lock key to act as the modifier
> key for the Jaws  or NVDA screen readers on the window side. There is no
> insert key on a Mac keyboard other than the full-sized one, and due to
> some internal circumstances the caps lock key is not passed through to
> the VM by fusion. Therefore you need to set some key, Often the grave
> accent key because it is so rarely used, to act as either an insert or a
> caps lock key. Then you use that key as you would the insert key when
> operating Jaws or NVDA.
> I hope that's a little more clear.
> 
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
> On Feb 27, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>> Ok, so why is this needed?
>> I don’t get the hang of it.
>> /A
>>> On 27 Feb 2016, at 15:08, Carter Temm >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> On af full-sized keyboard, this is not needed. But as the mac doesn’t
>>> have an insert key, you will have to reMap it. For example I use the
>>> ` key as mine, but you can choose to use different keys. To do this,
>>> go in to the vmware preferences, then Keyboard & Mouse button, then
>>> select Keymappings. Now interact with the table and make the changes
>>> you think are necessary.
 On Feb 27, 2016, at 2:39 AM, Anders Holmberg >>> > wrote:

 Hi!
 There is one thing i haven’t understood really.
 There is this talk about remapping the insert key?
 Why is this needed?
 Do i have to do this when using a full sized keyboard?
 /A
> On 27 Feb 2016, at 07:15, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
>
> At this point I don’t believe anyone really knows.
>  
> As for fusion on your MBA yeah sure it can be done without an
> issue, but you have to make sure you have the resources for it, I
> personally don’t think 128 GB is big enough for a mac os and vm of
> windows, but that is my personal thought.
>  
> But then my MBA 11 inch has been custom built with full features of
> everything.
>  
>  
>  
> *From:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>  
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Helga Schreiber
> *Sent:* Saturday, 27 February 2016 4:39 PM
> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> 
> *Subject:* Re: VMware Fusion
>  
> Hi all! Are you saying that there is not goint to be anymore VM
> ware fusion? I'm thinking in doing VM fusion on my Mac on the
> summer in ordr to use my Windows and my Voiceover  at  the same
> time!! Would that work with my Macbook Air 11 inches? Just
> owndring!! I currently have the new OS 10 update!  I look forward
> in hearing form you soon. Thanks and God bless!
>
> Helga Schreiber 
>  
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association
> of Blind Students.
> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
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>  
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> px 
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>  
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> John 3:16 
> Sent from my iPhone 
>
>
> On Feb 26, 2016, at 10:02 PM, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
>
> Hell yes especially if it will make life easier when installing
> a v box vm 
>
> And the terminal is always a great learning curve.
>
> Thanks 
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>  
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Carter Temm
> Sent: Saturday, 27 February 2016 12:35 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> 
> Subject: Re: VMware Fusion
>
> Hi,
> Thanks for bringing this up. I was going to write a guide or
> tutorial if you all want, on how to build a VM with virtual box
> on mac. It is a task that is not going to be described as easy,
> but if your an advanced user and feel comfortable with using
> the terminal, it will work fine. Let me know if anyone would be
> interested in such tutorial.
>
> On Feb 26, 2016,

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

[Kevin Chao]

I use gmail.com and inbox.google.com. The keyboard shortcuts make it really
efficient and usable.
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 7:41 AM jeff `greene  wrote:

> Hi, I've asked this question twice from my mac but never got an answer
> so I'm not sure if mac mail actually sent the message. Well anyway...
> I'm getting really tired of mail.app on the mac. I often get busy
> messages or messages that an email can't be sent. I'm wondering if
> anybody has used other email programs on the mac and what their
> experiences were like? I found one in the app store called cloudmagic
> email that got 4stars in customer reviews, but its $19.95 so I'm
> hesitant to hit the buy button. Has anybody used this program?
> Thanks, Jeff
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alternative email programs on the mac?

[jeff `greene]

Hi, I've asked this question twice from my mac but never got an answer
so I'm not sure if mac mail actually sent the message. Well anyway...
I'm getting really tired of mail.app on the mac. I often get busy
messages or messages that an email can't be sent. I'm wondering if
anybody has used other email programs on the mac and what their
experiences were like? I found one in the app store called cloudmagic
email that got 4stars in customer reviews, but its $19.95 so I'm
hesitant to hit the buy button. Has anybody used this program?
Thanks, Jeff

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smart groups in contacts

[Sandra E. Finley]

I m creating a smart group  for a committee I am chairing at church. Some 
members are appearing in the address list twice.

 I used command shift N to start the smart group. and filled in the two fields 
of the dialog box. In smart Group I put  the name of the group and in the field 
Called  Contains I put the text I entered in the Notes field of the address 
cards for those I want in the group.  I have checked the group list and no one 
is in there twice. So why are some names appearing twice in the to field of my 
email when I enter the smart group name? I have also checked the names in the 
actual contact list and those addresses are also right. 
Sandy

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Re: OpenOffice Mac

[Krister Ekstrom]

I totally agree wehn it comes to file handling in Pages etc. Libre Office has 
this deal breaker that consists of the following: In Writer, every single new 
line is treated as a separate edit box, and thus you can’t use VO+a to read a 
whole document or select across lineds or such. This bug has been there since 
many years back. I hope for a solution but i doubt i ever willl see one.
/Krister

> 27 feb. 2016 kl. 15:17 skrev erik burggraaf :
> 
> I did use it about 5 years ago now.  Back then it was accessible more or less 
> until an update broke accessibility and the entire package became useless.  
> If an update has fixed accessibility in recent years, I have not herd.  It 
> would be nice.  pages and numbers work well for my purposes but I really hate 
> the way they manage files and only use their proprietary formats.  What I 
> wouldn't give to be able to press command s for save again.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2016, at 8:37 AM, Daniel Chavez > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello list,
>> Has anyone used OpenOffice for Mac?
>> If so, how well does it work with VO and is it accessible?
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Re: Textedit Questions, Urgent Help Please!

[Alex Hall]

First, go to the top of a blank document to make these changes, or select all 
in a document that already has text, then go to the top.

For line spacing, stop interacting with the scroll area that holds the text 
field and vo-left to the line spacing popup button. Choose your spacing from 
here.

For the not, there's a font size combo box, but I can't get it to work. 
Instead, hit cmd-t, vo-right to "size", and vo-down. You'll land on a text 
field where you can type the size. Once done, hit cmd-w to close the window. 
Note, however, that 12-point is usually the default.

Finally, you can't set a default spacing. I'm not sure if that gets based on 
the last spacing you used, or if it always reverts to single-spaced for new 
documents. You can, however, change the default font for new documents. Hit 
cmd-comma, choose the "New Documents" tab, and find the font for the type (rich 
text or plain text). Hit the "Change" button and choose the new font and size 
you want.
> On Feb 28, 2016, at 05:00, Helga Schreiber  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all! How are  you all?  The subject line says it all!  My questions, Do 
> you know how can I  have 12 point Times New roman font as default on textedit 
> on my mac,adn also double spacing as deafault? I'm  just owndering because I 
> need to write  a 1250 or 1500 paper and I want to have everything set. I was 
> doing my paper on my Windows computer using JAWS but it froze on me twice. 
> The firs time i ignore it, but the second time  when it freezes I was in the 
> middle of writing  my introduction,and it froze!! I did shortcut  key to 
> bring JAWS  back but nothing work! So I did a Force shut down  by pressing 
> the  power button, and when I wanted to find my paper, I found it but the old 
> copy,my new writing that  i ad got deleted! Now I'm not happy an dI'm upset. 
> So I  really need your help from you. Regarding this matter.  And another 
> questions, how can I do word count of my words and spell check on Textextedit 
> on my Mac? I'm going to write perhaps part of of it perhaps on my iPhoen on 
> my way to church, but I will complete it on my mac at home! I really need 
> some suggestions and help regarding this matter!! I look forward in hearing 
> form you soon!! Thanks so much and God bless!!! 
> 
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Re: OT: Applescript refusing to see document object of Pages?

[Alex Hall]

I used the script you sent, or at least the first part. I can't get any 
attributes of windows or documents at all.
> On Feb 27, 2016, at 23:14, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
> 
> But I am that is the person that I am using. Do you want to compare Scripps?  
> using
> 
> 
> Jonathan Cohn 
> 
> On Feb 27, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Alex Hall  > wrote:
> 
>> Sorry for the delay. Yes, it's 5.6.1, and the App Store shows no updates for 
>> it.
>>> On Feb 23, 2016, at 22:54, Jonathan C. Cohn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> It is the current version of pages right?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn 
>>> 
 On Feb 23, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Alex Hall >>> > wrote:
 
 Thanks for the response. The crazy thing is, I can't even get that far. I 
 get stuck on getting the window: "Pages got an error: can't get window 1". 
 If I try "every window" instead, I get a similar error. I've never seen an 
 app behave this way!
> On Feb 23, 2016, at 21:18, Jonathan Cohn  > wrote:
> 
> Alex,
> 
> Hopefully this will help…
> I ran 
> 
> tell application "Pages"
> 
>   set current_window to window 1
>   set itemList to documents of current_window
>   repeat with anitem in itemList
>   get the class of item 1 of anitem
>   end repeat
> end tell
> 
> 
> and received the results:
> tell application "Pages"
>   get window 1
>   --> window id 888
>   get every document of window id 888
>   --> document id "018F988E-C58F-43F2-BD69-9567F7F9FEE7"
>   count document id "018F988E-C58F-43F2-BD69-9567F7F9FEE7"
>   --> 1
>   get class of item 1 of item 1 of document id 
> "018F988E-C58F-43F2-BD69-9567F7F9FEE7"
>   --> document
> end tell
> Result:
> document
> 
>> On Feb 22, 2016, at 21:04, Alex Hall > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hey list,
>> Anyone else out there who plays with AppleScript, I'd love your help. 
>> I'm trying to help someone automate the completion of some long forms in 
>> Pages, and I know how I'm going to do it. The problem is that even the 
>> simplest script errors out with "Pages got an error: can't get document 
>> 1". If I can't access the document, it's not going to work at all. Yet, 
>> I have no clue why I can't, and all the samples I've looked up do 
>> exactly what I do. I even used one of the samples, straight from the 
>> web, and got the exact same error. It has to be something funny locally, 
>> but I don't know what. I don't even know where to look. Any suggestions 
>> will be appreciated. Thanks.
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Textedit Questions, Urgent Help Please!

[Helga Schreiber]

Hi all! How are  you all?  The subject line says it all!  My questions, Do you 
know how can I  have 12 point Times New roman font as default on textedit on my 
mac,adn also double spacing as deafault? I'm  just owndering because I need to 
write  a 1250 or 1500 paper and I want to have everything set. I was doing my 
paper on my Windows computer using JAWS but it froze on me twice. The firs time 
i ignore it, but the second time  when it freezes I was in the middle of 
writing  my introduction,and it froze!! I did shortcut  key to bring JAWS  back 
but nothing work! So I did a Force shut down  by pressing the  power button, 
and when I wanted to find my paper, I found it but the old copy,my new writing 
that  i ad got deleted! Now I'm not happy an dI'm upset. So I  really need your 
help from you. Regarding this matter.  And another questions, how can I do word 
count of my words and spell check on Textextedit on my Mac? I'm going to write 
perhaps part of of it perhaps on my iPhoen on my way to church, but I will 
complete it on my mac at home! I really need some suggestions and help 
regarding this matter!! I look forward in hearing form you soon!! Thanks so 
much and God bless!!! 

Helga Schreiber 

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