RE: Apple mail insists upon replying from a dead me.com e-mail address when the original e-mail came to my iCloud.com address. Can't seem to prevent this

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Kevin,

Not that I’m aware of, I use reply in most cases and it appears to get back to 
the list.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Kevin Gibbs
Sent: Monday, 24 June 2019 5:21 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Apple mail insists upon replying from a dead me.com e-mail address 
when the original e-mail came to my iCloud.com address. Can't seem to prevent 
this

Is it the deal that you have to reply ALL if you’re going to reply from your 
e-mail client instead of from the web?  Asking for a fiend.  :)

On Jun 24, 2019, at 12:19 AM, Kevin Gibbs 
mailto:kevj...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Well, I've had it.  Apparently, if I didn't tell you, 
kevj...@me.com is an Apple ID and can't be hosed.  for 
some reason, in many case, not all, if you reply to an e-mail that was sent to 
your iCloud address, your reply will be sent from me.copm if your 
me.com is an Apple ID.  You can't hose an Apple ID.  So, 
there's no getting around the idea that you have to always check the SEND field 
to make sure that it's being sent from iCloud and not me.com.  
ARG!

thanks to all of you for your thoughtful suggestions.
It was kind of a drag that the only way I could reply reliably was to reply 
from here on the web.  When I tried to simply hit REPLY in my Apple Mail google 
account, I have no idea where it went.

Oh well,
Kevin


On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 5:37:23 PM UTC-5, Kevin Gibbs wrote:
Guys,

Many years ago, I subscribed to a Reaper mailing list using my 
kevj...@me.com address.  This address is now long dead.  
I have since unsubscribed and resubscribed to this mailing list using 
kevj...@icloud.com.  However, even though my e-mails 
from this list come to my iCloud address, hitting reply automatically populates 
the sending address as kevj...@me.com.  If I don’t 
happen to remember to click on the outgoing address and change it to 
kevj...@icloud.com, the mail will be sent to nowhere 
and it will take a few days for me to realize that the reason I haven’t heard 
from whatever I asked about is because nobody saw what I wrote.

I have tried my best to make sure that kevj...@me.com is 
toast.  It is no longer present as a sender’s e-mail address.  But it remains 
as an option in the list of e-mail addresses I can choose when sending e-mails. 
 In fact, if I am currently highlighting an e-mail that came to my iCloud 
account, initiating a blank e-mail appears to populate the From field with 
kevj...@me.com, regardless of what e-mail address I 
actually want in the From field.  I can’t remove this me.com 
address as an option in the From field no matter what I do.  Can anyone help?

Thanks,
Kevin

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Re: Apple mail insists upon replying from a dead me.com e-mail address when the original e-mail came to my iCloud.com address. Can't seem to prevent this

[Kevin Gibbs]

Is it the deal that you have to reply ALL if you’re going to reply from your 
e-mail client instead of from the web?  Asking for a fiend.  :)

> On Jun 24, 2019, at 12:19 AM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
> 
> Well, I've had it.  Apparently, if I didn't tell you, kevj...@me.com 
>  is an Apple ID and can't be hosed.  for some reason, 
> in many case, not all, if you reply to an e-mail that was sent to your iCloud 
> address, your reply will be sent from me.copm if your me.com  
> is an Apple ID.  You can't hose an Apple ID.  So, there's no getting around 
> the idea that you have to always check the SEND field to make sure that it's 
> being sent from iCloud and not me.com .  ARG!
> 
> thanks to all of you for your thoughtful suggestions.  
> It was kind of a drag that the only way I could reply reliably was to reply 
> from here on the web.  When I tried to simply hit REPLY in my Apple Mail 
> google account, I have no idea where it went.  
> 
> Oh well,
> Kevin
> 
> 
> On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 5:37:23 PM UTC-5, Kevin Gibbs wrote:
> Guys, 
> 
> Many years ago, I subscribed to a Reaper mailing list using my kevj...@me.com 
>  address.  This address is now long dead.  I have 
> since unsubscribed and resubscribed to this mailing list using 
> kevj...@icloud.com.  However, even though my e-mails from this list come to 
> my iCloud address, hitting reply automatically populates the sending address 
> as kevj...@me.com .  If I don’t happen to remember to 
> click on the outgoing address and change it to kevj...@icloud.com, the mail 
> will be sent to nowhere and it will take a few days for me to realize that 
> the reason I haven’t heard from whatever I asked about is because nobody saw 
> what I wrote.   
> 
> I have tried my best to make sure that kevj...@me.com  
> is toast.  It is no longer present as a sender’s e-mail address.  But it 
> remains as an option in the list of e-mail addresses I can choose when 
> sending e-mails.  In fact, if I am currently highlighting an e-mail that came 
> to my iCloud account, initiating a blank e-mail appears to populate the From 
> field with kevj...@me.com , regardless of what e-mail 
> address I actually want in the From field.  I can’t remove this me.com 
>  address as an option in the From field no matter what I do.  
> Can anyone help?   
> 
> Thanks, 
> Kevin
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Re: Apple mail insists upon replying from a dead me.com e-mail address when the original e-mail came to my iCloud.com address. Can't seem to prevent this

[Kevin Gibbs]

Well, I've had it.  Apparently, if I didn't tell you, kevj...@me.com is an 
Apple ID and can't be hosed.  for some reason, in many case, not all, if 
you reply to an e-mail that was sent to your iCloud address, your reply 
will be sent from me.copm if your me.com is an Apple ID.  You can't hose an 
Apple ID.  So, there's no getting around the idea that you have to always 
check the SEND field to make sure that it's being sent from iCloud and not 
me.com.  ARG!

thanks to all of you for your thoughtful suggestions.  
It was kind of a drag that the only way I could reply reliably was to reply 
from here on the web.  When I tried to simply hit REPLY in my Apple Mail 
google account, I have no idea where it went.  

Oh well,
Kevin


On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 5:37:23 PM UTC-5, Kevin Gibbs wrote:
>
> Guys, 
>
> Many years ago, I subscribed to a Reaper mailing list using my 
> kevj...@me.com address.  This address is now long dead.  I have since 
> unsubscribed and resubscribed to this mailing list using 
> kevj...@icloud.com.  However, even though my e-mails from this list come to 
> my iCloud address, hitting reply automatically populates the sending 
> address as kevj...@me.com.  If I don’t happen to remember to click on the 
> outgoing address and change it to kevj...@icloud.com, the mail will be sent 
> to nowhere and it will take a few days for me to realize that the reason I 
> haven’t heard from whatever I asked about is because nobody saw what I 
> wrote.   
>
> I have tried my best to make sure that kevj...@me.com is toast.  It is no 
> longer present as a sender’s e-mail address.  But it remains as an option 
> in the list of e-mail addresses I can choose when sending e-mails.  In 
> fact, if I am currently highlighting an e-mail that came to my iCloud 
> account, initiating a blank e-mail appears to populate the From field with 
> kevj...@me.com, regardless of what e-mail address I actually want in the 
> From field.  I can’t remove this me.com address as an option in the From 
> field no matter what I do.  Can anyone help?   
>
> Thanks, 
> Kevin

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RE: Any Good Journaling or Diary Apps, Anyone?

[M. Taylor]

Hello David,

That sounds like a good idea except for the amount of storage space it takes 
for each complete file with all of it's default overhead.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 8:32 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any Good Journaling or Diary Apps, Anyone?

When I journal, I use Apple's Notes app. I have a journal folder and each day 
is a separate entry.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936


> On 24 Jun 2019, at 13:09, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hi Simon,
> 
> Yes, you're probably right but it would not be the same.
> 
> A good journaling app is very sleek and presents the data in a certain way 
> that just looks right.  (smile).  Silly, I know.  
> 
> I suppose it's kind of like showing up at the prom in a modern stretch 
> limousine versus showing up in your dad's old beat-up, step-side, circa 1950, 
> Ford F150 pickup truck.
> 
> Well, now that I think about it, not really but I've been wanting to use that 
> Ford F-150 comparison for quite some time now.  (big Smile).
> 
> Mark  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
> Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 7:52 PM
> To: 'macvisionaries@googlegroups.com'
> Subject: RE: Any Good Journaling or Diary Apps, Anyone?
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> Not sure what type of thing your really looking for but wouldn't pages do 
> what your looking for So long as you dated each days entries?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Sunday, 23 June 2019 1:42 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Any Good Journaling or Diary Apps, Anyone?
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I downloaded Mac Journal for iPad a few weeks ago but, to be honest, I don't 
> really like it.  For one thing, it's kind of wonky when it comes to having 
> the data stored in iCloud.  
> 
> When I open the app on my iPhone, sometimes it sees the entries I've made on 
> iPad and sometimes, .  Now I do not have Mac Journal for Mac OS and I don't 
> plan on spending anymore money on this particular product.
> 
> So, can anyone recommend another VoiceOver accessible diary/journaling app?
> It would be great if the app could store data on iCloud.
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
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Re: Any Good Journaling or Diary Apps, Anyone?

[David Chittenden]

When I journal, I use Apple's Notes app. I have a journal folder and each day 
is a separate entry.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936


> On 24 Jun 2019, at 13:09, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hi Simon,
> 
> Yes, you're probably right but it would not be the same.
> 
> A good journaling app is very sleek and presents the data in a certain way 
> that just looks right.  (smile).  Silly, I know.  
> 
> I suppose it's kind of like showing up at the prom in a modern stretch 
> limousine versus showing up in your dad's old beat-up, step-side, circa 1950, 
> Ford F150 pickup truck.
> 
> Well, now that I think about it, not really but I've been wanting to use that 
> Ford F-150 comparison for quite some time now.  (big Smile).
> 
> Mark  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
> Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 7:52 PM
> To: 'macvisionaries@googlegroups.com'
> Subject: RE: Any Good Journaling or Diary Apps, Anyone?
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> Not sure what type of thing your really looking for but wouldn't pages do 
> what your looking for So long as you dated each days entries?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Sunday, 23 June 2019 1:42 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Any Good Journaling or Diary Apps, Anyone?
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I downloaded Mac Journal for iPad a few weeks ago but, to be honest, I don't 
> really like it.  For one thing, it's kind of wonky when it comes to having 
> the data stored in iCloud.  
> 
> When I open the app on my iPhone, sometimes it sees the entries I've made on 
> iPad and sometimes, .  Now I do not have Mac Journal for Mac OS and I don't 
> plan on spending anymore money on this particular product.
> 
> So, can anyone recommend another VoiceOver accessible diary/journaling app?
> It would be great if the app could store data on iCloud.
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
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RE: Any Good Journaling or Diary Apps, Anyone?

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Mark, apart from the laughter here,

And although a limo would look good,
The F150  would sound a truckload better just lacking the drinks cabinet and 
need to not worry about drinking and driving.
 But yeah, Looks are everything,

Says the totally blind person.



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, 24 June 2019 3:09 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any Good Journaling or Diary Apps, Anyone?

Hi Simon,

Yes, you're probably right but it would not be the same.

A good journaling app is very sleek and presents the data in a certain way that 
just looks right.  (smile).  Silly, I know.  

I suppose it's kind of like showing up at the prom in a modern stretch 
limousine versus showing up in your dad's old beat-up, step-side, circa 1950, 
Ford F150 pickup truck.

Well, now that I think about it, not really but I've been wanting to use that 
Ford F-150 comparison for quite some time now.  (big Smile).

Mark  

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 7:52 PM
To: 'macvisionaries@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: Any Good Journaling or Diary Apps, Anyone?

Hi Mark,

Not sure what type of thing your really looking for but wouldn't pages do what 
your looking for So long as you dated each days entries?

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, 23 June 2019 1:42 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Any Good Journaling or Diary Apps, Anyone?

Hello All,

I downloaded Mac Journal for iPad a few weeks ago but, to be honest, I don't 
really like it.  For one thing, it's kind of wonky when it comes to having the 
data stored in iCloud.  

When I open the app on my iPhone, sometimes it sees the entries I've made on 
iPad and sometimes, .  Now I do not have Mac Journal for Mac OS and I don't 
plan on spending anymore money on this particular product.

So, can anyone recommend another VoiceOver accessible diary/journaling app?
It would be great if the app could store data on iCloud.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

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RE: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Kelly,

What key presses are you using to start narrator or jaws?

I would suggest turning off voiceover and use the right command key and dtrl 
plus enter to start narrator and then see what you get happening from there?

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of kelly ford
Sent: Monday, 24 June 2019 10:51 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

Hi Pete and all,

The sound card is definitely present.  I hear all the standard sounds from 
Windows and when the screen readers are talking, the sound meters indicate that 
audio is being produced.

Kelly

From: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
on behalf of Pete De Vasto 
mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Date: Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 3:06 PM
To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

Two thinks, Kelly, that you’ve probably already done but just in case:

1. JAWS, particularly, as you know, has the Sound Card option as one of the 
things in the Utilities folder. See if there’s more than just the default 
Windows sound card as an option.
2. With your VM running, you should be able to do CTRL+Opt+Right to get to 
devices, interact with them and make sure the sound card is present there.

Not sure if this will help but thought I’d suggest anyhow.

Pete De Vasto

On Jun 23, 2019, at 12:07 PM, kelly ford 
mailto:ke...@kellford.com>> wrote:

This is very perplexing.  I have installed the VMWare tools, after using 
sighted help to get through setup.  This has no change.

I hear all the sounds from Windows but no screen reader speech.  I’ve now 
installed JAWS, NVDA and tried Narrator.

I can play music on the virtual machine and hear that.

Kelly


From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Reply-To: 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Date: Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 11:06 AM
To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

Have you installed VMWare Fusion tools?  I had to do it via VMWare Tools menu 
in VMWare window.

Andrew
On Jun 23, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Kelly Ford 
mailto:ke...@kellford.com>> wrote:

It is newer. It is a 2017 model.



On Jun 23, 2019, at 3:03 AM, KliphnShari Miller 
mailto:kliphnsh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
If your macbookpro is not a 2014 or newer, you will have to get sited help to 
assist with the sound card options in the control pannel.
Come checkout the stur it up podcast, where we 
discuss technology, sports, have special guests, and is always family friendly
We are on Anchor
Spotify
Breaker
And on Radio Public
You can send an email between Podcasts with your questions to
sturi...@icloud.com
Also follow us on Twitter, during our 
Shoutcast live Stream

And our blog for updates and announcements

On Jun 23, 2019, at 12:13 AM, KellyFord 
mailto:ke...@kellford.com>> wrote:
Hi,

I am curious if anyone else can duplicate an issue or has a suggestion for a 
work around?

I installed Fusion 11 on a MacBook Pro.  I then created a new Windows VM and 
booted from an ISO for the most current release of Windows 10.  I was able to 
get Narrator to start to do the Windows install but have no speech.  I do have 
the sounds Narrator makes when moving around and such just not the voice.

Kelly

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RE: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

[Simon Fogarty]

Try bringing the vm to focus and then switch voiceover off using command f5,
Then try switching narrator jaws or NVDA on.
Narrator would be the simplist one.
Remember that by default the left command key is not going to work as a widnows 
key.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of kelly ford
Sent: Monday, 24 June 2019 7:07 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

This is very perplexing.  I have installed the VMWare tools, after using 
sighted help to get through setup.  This has no change.

I hear all the sounds from Windows but no screen reader speech.  I’ve now 
installed JAWS, NVDA and tried Narrator.

I can play music on the virtual machine and hear that.

Kelly


From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Reply-To: 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Date: Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 11:06 AM
To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

Have you installed VMWare Fusion tools?  I had to do it via VMWare Tools menu 
in VMWare window.

Andrew
On Jun 23, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Kelly Ford 
mailto:ke...@kellford.com>> wrote:

It is newer. It is a 2017 model.



On Jun 23, 2019, at 3:03 AM, KliphnShari Miller 
mailto:kliphnsh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
If your macbookpro is not a 2014 or newer, you will have to get sited help to 
assist with the sound card options in the control pannel.
Come checkout the stur it up podcast, where we 
discuss technology, sports, have special guests, and is always family friendly
We are on Anchor
Spotify
Breaker
And on Radio Public
You can send an email between Podcasts with your questions to
sturi...@icloud.com
Also follow us on Twitter, during our 
Shoutcast live Stream

And our blog for updates and announcements

On Jun 23, 2019, at 12:13 AM, KellyFord 
mailto:ke...@kellford.com>> wrote:
Hi,

I am curious if anyone else can duplicate an issue or has a suggestion for a 
work around?

I installed Fusion 11 on a MacBook Pro.  I then created a new Windows VM and 
booted from an ISO for the most current release of Windows 10.  I was able to 
get Narrator to start to do the Windows install but have no speech.  I do have 
the sounds Narrator makes when moving around and such just not the voice.

Kelly

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RE: Any Good Journaling or Diary Apps, Anyone?

[M. Taylor]

Hi Simon,

Yes, you're probably right but it would not be the same.

A good journaling app is very sleek and presents the data in a certain way that 
just looks right.  (smile).  Silly, I know.  

I suppose it's kind of like showing up at the prom in a modern stretch 
limousine versus showing up in your dad's old beat-up, step-side, circa 1950, 
Ford F150 pickup truck.

Well, now that I think about it, not really but I've been wanting to use that 
Ford F-150 comparison for quite some time now.  (big Smile).

Mark  

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 7:52 PM
To: 'macvisionaries@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: Any Good Journaling or Diary Apps, Anyone?

Hi Mark,

Not sure what type of thing your really looking for but wouldn't pages do what 
your looking for So long as you dated each days entries?

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, 23 June 2019 1:42 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Any Good Journaling or Diary Apps, Anyone?

Hello All,

I downloaded Mac Journal for iPad a few weeks ago but, to be honest, I don't 
really like it.  For one thing, it's kind of wonky when it comes to having the 
data stored in iCloud.  

When I open the app on my iPhone, sometimes it sees the entries I've made on 
iPad and sometimes, .  Now I do not have Mac Journal for Mac OS and I don't 
plan on spending anymore money on this particular product.

So, can anyone recommend another VoiceOver accessible diary/journaling app?
It would be great if the app could store data on iCloud.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

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RE: Unable to change info into audiobooks category of audiobook tracks with MP3 extension in iTunes

[Simon Fogarty]

You should be able to drop that list down to get audio books also.
 This is what will change it in your itunes library.

-Original Message-
From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Monday, 24 June 2019 4:04 AM
To: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Unable to change info into audiobooks category of audiobook tracks 
with MP3 extension in iTunes

Hi,

it’s been driving me crazy for a long time.  Some of the audiobooks which I 
import into iTunes have the MP3 extension.  They are seen & sorted by itunes as 
music genre.  In the Info I seem to be unable to change this into audiobooks 
under options/media kind tab.  Is there something I am doing wrong?  In Options 
tab in the “media kind" popup button, the only category is Music.  But that’s 
just illogical as in the Details tab I can change the genre to audiobooks

Any ideas?

Andrew

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RE: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

[Simon Fogarty]

If your using fusion then try using a USB speaker or adaptor to get your audio 
out of the windows machine, that should do what you require until you get your 
audio working out of the vm.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Kelly Ford
Sent: Sunday, 23 June 2019 10:28 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

It is newer. It is a 2017 model.



On Jun 23, 2019, at 3:03 AM, KliphnShari Miller 
mailto:kliphnsh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
If your macbookpro is not a 2014 or newer, you will have to get sited help to 
assist with the sound card options in the control pannel.

Come checkout the stur it up podcast, where we 
discuss technology, sports, have special guests, and is always family friendly

We are on Anchor

Spotify

Breaker

And on Radio Public

You can send an email between Podcasts with your questions to

sturi...@icloud.com

Also follow us on Twitter, during our 
Shoutcast live Stream

And our blog for updates and announcements

On Jun 23, 2019, at 12:13 AM, KellyFord 
mailto:ke...@kellford.com>> wrote:
Hi,

I am curious if anyone else can duplicate an issue or has a suggestion for a 
work around?

I installed Fusion 11 on a MacBook Pro.  I then created a new Windows VM and 
booted from an ISO for the most current release of Windows 10.  I was able to 
get Narrator to start to do the Windows install but have no speech.  I do have 
the sounds Narrator makes when moving around and such just not the voice.

Kelly
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RE: Compared: Brydge Pro vs Logitech Slim Folio Pro

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah I can say that both these devices are great.

I had the 10.5” version of the brydge  keyboard for my iPad and found it 
fantastic and easy to use,
  I also had the Logitech version of the slim folio keyboard and apart from the 
bulk and rough feel of it
It was a solid package and very drop resistant.
As I said these were the 10.5” versions for the ipad pro
I’ve been looking at the 11” brydge pro keyboard but currently finding the  
apple smart keyboard useable
And as the brydge pro 11’ keyboard is so costly I thought I’d leave it for a 
while.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of KliphnShari Miller
Sent: Sunday, 23 June 2019 10:16 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Compared: Brydge Pro vs Logitech Slim Folio Pro

Third-party keyboards are really popular for the 2018 iPad Pros, and one of the 
best selling keyboards are the Brydge Pro and Logitech Slim Folio Pro. Both of 
these keyboards are available for the 11-inch and 12.9-inch iPad Pro. Let's 
compare and see which one is best for what type of user.


Side by side: Logitech Slim Folio Pro (left), Brydge Pro (right)
Brydge Pro is not a case, but an external keyboard

The Brydge Pro Keyboard is not a keyboard case like the Slim Folio Pro, it's an 
external Bluetooth keyboard that transforms your iPad 
Pro 
into a MacBook with its sturdy aluminum body that is cold to the touch and 
offers an almost unlimited viewing angle.

11-inch iPad Pro with Brydge Pro

The keyboard itself has decent key travel, as we mentioned in our 
review
 and are backlit with up to three different brightness options. It packs a 
battery that can last up to a year and charges via USB-C, has iOS shortcuts 
above the number key, and there's also a place for the second-generation Apple 
Pencil to sit on the iPad and wirelessly charge.

If you do want more of a "case" with the keyboard, Brydge does offer optional 
back covers that work with its keyboards for full coverage.

Subscribe to AppleInsider on 
YouTube
Logitech offers full protection, and a keyboard

The Logitech Slim Folio Pro on the other hand is a really nice rugged keyboard 
case solution for the iPad Pro, which protects protects all four corners of the 
iPad while also having enough clearance for the second-generation Apple Pencil. 
It's made out of a high quality, durable silicone material and it's rugged.

Unlike the Brydge Pro, you'll have actual drop protection for your iPad Pro.

Logitech Slim Folio Pro

In terms of overall design though, we really like Brydge Pro keyboard in terms 
of looks. It's a lot sleeker, and feels way better to carry the iPad when it's 
closed, and it weighs less than Logitech's offering.

The Logitech Slim Folio Pro is not a slim device at all, despite the word 
"Slim" on its name. It's a bit thicker than the Brydge Pro, and noticeably 
heavier too, but there's a reason for that. While the Brydge Pro is lighter and 
slimmer than the Logitech, the Slim Folio Pro acts as a case as well, and uses 
different silicone materials to help protect the iPad from bumps and drops.

Functionality over portability?

When it comes to functionality, and how the keyboards perform, the Slim Folio 
Pro is the clear winner here. As mentioned in our review, the keyboard feels 
great, and has plenty of travel, very reminiscent of Apple's MacBook keyboard 
before they switched over to their new butterfly switches.

Typing on the Brydge Pro is just OK once you have it next to the Slim Folio Pro 
as it offers enough key travel, better than the Apple Smart Keyboard, but 
without the same key travel or tactile feedback as the Slim Folio Pro. One 
thing I do love from the Brydge Pro though is how bright the keys are at night, 
with its brightness options able to emit more light than the Logitech Slim 
Folio Pro.

Logitech Slim Folio Pro

Logitech offers two different typing positions by adjusting the back which 
gives you a more vertical view of the display. You can also set it in drawing' 
mode where the keyboard goes behind the iPad, but given the bigger footprint, 
and key travel on the Slim Folio Pro, pushing down on the iPad on either side 
of the device will make the iPad uneven at times and can be a bit frustrating 
when using the Apple Pencil.

The Brydge Pro, on the other hand, offers an almost unlimited viewing angles 
which is something I really love about this keyboard. Like a traditional 
laptop, you can move the iPad at almost any angle and type away, and you're not 
restricted to just two angles due to the free flowing hinge design. You can 
also put it in movie mode or drawing mode by taking out the iPad and flipping 
it the other way and folding it down.

Brydge Pro Keyboard

Battery life on the Slim Folio Pro is s

RE: Any Good Journaling or Diary Apps, Anyone?

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Mark,

Not sure what type of thing your really looking for but wouldn't pages do what 
your looking for 
So long as you dated each days entries?

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, 23 June 2019 1:42 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Any Good Journaling or Diary Apps, Anyone?

Hello All,

I downloaded Mac Journal for iPad a few weeks ago but, to be honest, I don't 
really like it.  For one thing, it's kind of wonky when it comes to having the 
data stored in iCloud.  

When I open the app on my iPhone, sometimes it sees the entries I've made on 
iPad and sometimes, .  Now I do not have Mac Journal for Mac OS and I don't 
plan on spending anymore money on this particular product.

So, can anyone recommend another VoiceOver accessible diary/journaling app?
It would be great if the app could store data on iCloud.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

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Re: How to choose a Wi-Fi network in recovery mode

[Phil Halton]

And of course, you can use the Be My Eyes app to have a cited assistant help 
you direct the mouse pointer. I’ve done this before and it’s just the kind of 
thing they’re there for. Just make sure you have your screen brightness up and 
be ready to hold the phone with one hand and work the trackpad with the other.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Jun 23, 2019, at 8:40 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Place your finger on the TrackPad, move up and to the right.  Hopefully, VO 
> announces what's under the mouse.  You can lift your finger, then slide up 
> again if you're not certain that the pointer has got to the top MenuBar area. 
>  You can even go towards the left hand side, where the regular menu items 
> reside and see if VO reads anything there.  You can press down on the 
> TrackPad to click the mouse.  If a menu appears, then VO navigation should 
> work within the menu.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jun 23, 2019, at 18:33, Joe Quinn  wrote:
> 
> How would that work, as I have a trackpad on a MacBook Pro
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 23, 2019, at 6:43 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> As mentioned, the WiFi network will already be connected if you were 
>> connected to it prior to restarting your Mac.  Other than that, you may need 
>> to move the mouse physically up to the right side of the MenuBar and click a 
>> bit to see if you can find the WiFi menu.  It should really already be 
>> connected though.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Jamf Certified Associate
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Jun 23, 2019, at 15:04, Joe Quinn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> but how do i connect to the wifi network when pressing VO m twice doesn't 
>>> get me to that screen?On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 2:25:28 PM UTC-5, Joe 
>>> Quinn wrote:
>>> I don’t mean to sound anxious, but I kind of am. I need a response as soon 
>>> as possible. I am trying to reinstall my macOS Mojave, but I need to have a 
>>> sure way of being able to choose a Wi-Fi network in recovery mode using 
>>> voiceover. Going to the Internet recovery option is not an option, because 
>>> it doesn’t speak. Voiceover m  twice seems to get me to a switch input 
>>> screen, something to do with the keyboard? Any help would be greatly 
>>> appreciated.
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RE: Apple mail insists upon replying from a dead me.com e-mail address when the original e-mail came to my iCloud.com address. Can't seem to prevent this

[M. Taylor]

Kevin!  Kevin!  Kevin!

I loved your statement, “I have to kill this if it's the last thing I do.”

Man, I cannot stop laughing.  I know exactly, and I do mean, exactly, how you 
feel.Your statement, along with its sentiment is going to keep me smiling , 
for a long, long time.  Thank you for that.

As to your issue, it sounds to me that you may need to delete your @me.com 
alias from either or both your iCloud account and/or your Google account.  

In either case, you must do this from your account page.  

It’s been a while since I’ve done this on Google but on an iOS device, for 
Apple, do the following:

1.
Go to Settings.

2.
Click on your name.

3.
Select the Name, Phone Numbers, and Email, button.  A dialog box will appear 
that list all of the email address / aliases currently associated with your 
Apple ID.  To change or delete any items, select the Edit button located near 
the upper right corner of the display.

As I said, the issue may be associated with your Google account, also.   Best 
to check, just in case.

Good Luck, let us know what happens, and above all else, thank you for the 
laugh.

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Kevin Gibbs
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 3:55 PM
To: MacVisionaries
Subject: Re: Apple mail insists upon replying from a dead me.com e-mail address 
when the original e-mail came to my iCloud.com address. Can't seem to prevent 
this

guys,

Following up.  I just now attempted to send a fresh e-mail to the Reaper list 
shown here.  Because I was sending this in Apple Mail while highlighting an 
unrelated message that came to my Gmail account, typing in RWP autofilled the 
TO field with r...@groups.io as it should.  I sent the message and I received 
it as I would have expected.  But when I attempted to reply to my own thread, 
my sender e-mail was kevj...@me.com again.  I have to kill this if it's the 
last thing I do.  

Ideas?

Kevin

On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 5:37:23 PM UTC-5, Kevin Gibbs wrote:
Guys, 

Many years ago, I subscribed to a Reaper mailing list using my kevj...@me.com 
address.  This address is now long dead.  I have since unsubscribed and 
resubscribed to this mailing list using kevj...@icloud.com.  However, even 
though my e-mails from this list come to my iCloud address, hitting reply 
automatically populates the sending address as kevj...@me.com.  If I don’t 
happen to remember to click on the outgoing address and change it to 
kevj...@icloud.com, the mail will be sent to nowhere and it will take a few 
days for me to realize that the reason I haven’t heard from whatever I asked 
about is because nobody saw what I wrote.   

I have tried my best to make sure that kevj...@me.com is toast.  It is no 
longer present as a sender’s e-mail address.  But it remains as an option in 
the list of e-mail addresses I can choose when sending e-mails.  In fact, if I 
am currently highlighting an e-mail that came to my iCloud account, initiating 
a blank e-mail appears to populate the From field with kevj...@me.com, 
regardless of what e-mail address I actually want in the From field.  I can’t 
remove this me.com address as an option in the From field no matter what I do.  
Can anyone help?   

Thanks, 
Kevin
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RE: Any Good Journaling or Diary Apps, Anyone?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Jurgen and All,

Okay, I found Day One on the app store.  

I see that there is a $34 price tag.  Is this correct?  I don't mind paying $34 
as long as it is a flat rate.  Some reviewers were saying that the app requires 
a subscription.  Is this so?  I am a little confused on this point.  Finally, 
one of the reviewers states that Day One does not allow you to store your data 
in iCloud but, rather, stores data on a Day One server.  

I saw several reviews that really slammed the developers for not allowing 
iCloud data storage especially when such personal data is in question.

Mark

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On Behalf Of Jürgen Fleger
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 10:17 PM
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Subject: Re: Any Good Journaling or Diary Apps, Anyone?

Hey Marc,

save your money. I don't like Mac Journal for the same reasons and some more.

I'm very happy with Day One. Syncing works great and it's easy to use. The only 
thing: the audio recorder is not really accessible with VoiceOver.But I capture 
audios in an other app and import it via the share sheet to Day One. Works fine.

So, give it a try. All versions are accessible, for iOS and Mac OS.

All the best
Jürgen


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

> Am 23.06.2019 um 03:42 schrieb M. Taylor :
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I downloaded Mac Journal for iPad a few weeks ago but, to be honest, I 
> don't really like it.  For one thing, it's kind of wonky when it comes 
> to having the data stored in iCloud.
> 
> When I open the app on my iPhone, sometimes it sees the entries I've 
> made on iPad and sometimes, .  Now I do not have Mac Journal for Mac 
> OS and I don't plan on spending anymore money on this particular product.
> 
> So, can anyone recommend another VoiceOver accessible diary/journaling app?
> It would be great if the app could store data on iCloud.
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
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Re: How to choose a Wi-Fi network in recovery mode

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Place your finger on the TrackPad, move up and to the right.  Hopefully, VO 
announces what's under the mouse.  You can lift your finger, then slide up 
again if you're not certain that the pointer has got to the top MenuBar area.  
You can even go towards the left hand side, where the regular menu items reside 
and see if VO reads anything there.  You can press down on the TrackPad to 
click the mouse.  If a menu appears, then VO navigation should work within the 
menu.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 23, 2019, at 18:33, Joe Quinn  wrote:

How would that work, as I have a trackpad on a MacBook Pro

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 23, 2019, at 6:43 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> As mentioned, the WiFi network will already be connected if you were 
> connected to it prior to restarting your Mac.  Other than that, you may need 
> to move the mouse physically up to the right side of the MenuBar and click a 
> bit to see if you can find the WiFi menu.  It should really already be 
> connected though.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jun 23, 2019, at 15:04, Joe Quinn  > wrote:
> 
> but how do i connect to the wifi network when pressing VO m twice doesn't get 
> me to that screen?On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 2:25:28 PM UTC-5, Joe Quinn 
> wrote:
>> I don’t mean to sound anxious, but I kind of am. I need a response as soon 
>> as possible. I am trying to reinstall my macOS Mojave, but I need to have a 
>> sure way of being able to choose a Wi-Fi network in recovery mode using 
>> voiceover. Going to the Internet recovery option is not an option, because 
>> it doesn’t speak. Voiceover m  twice seems to get me to a switch input 
>> screen, something to do with the keyboard? Any help would be greatly 
>> appreciated.
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Re: MacBook Pro audio

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

The foot thing would have nothing to do with the audio.  Do you get music if 
you try to play from iTunes but just no VO sound, or nothing at all as far as 
you can tell.  If the latter, while using the headphones, go to System Prefs, 
Sound and press the Output tab.  Check the devices you have listed there.  
Interact with the table of output devices, make sure that the headphones item 
is selected, then unplug the headphones.  If there's still no sound, press the 
up arrow a few times, then press return.  If you still get no sound, then it's 
possible that something's gone awry with the built-in sound card, but I 
wouldn't give up yet.

Next, let's clear the PRAM.  Shutdown the Mac.  Wait for about 10 seconds, then 
get twister fingers ready.  You'll need to press down the Command, Option, r 
and p keys at the same time.  I usually put my left thumb across the cmd and 
Option keys then my left index finger on the r and right pinky on the p key.  
have thoat combination ready, press the power button, then as the Startup Chime 
begins to sound, press those four keys down.  Hold them down and continue 
holding them down after the chime finishes.  Keep holding them down through an 
additional three chime sounds, then release all the keys.  Let the Mac start up 
and see if you get sound now.  If not, shut it down again.  Plug in the power 
cord, hold down the left hand side ctrl, Option and Shift keys, then while 
they're down, press the power button and release the power button quickly.  
Wait about 10 seconds, then power it up again.  If you get sound now, life is 
good, if not, then hardware problems may exist.

  If you have anyone that can help that is sighted, have them look at all the 
levels in that Sound pane when the headphones are not connected.  If everything 
looks normal, then there may be issues with the sound card itself.

Let me know how it goes.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 23, 2019, at 17:47, Gabe Griffith  wrote:

Hi all,

I have a late 2013 Macbook Pro running version 10.13.6. A couple of weeks ago I 
quit getting any audio out of the speakers. I have tried toggling mute and 
pressing the up volume button several times with no change. I'm getting audio 
through headphones but that's the only way I can use the computer. About the 
same time this happened I noticed that the round plasticky foot on the right 
front bottom corner is missing. Does anyone know if this would be related and 
if not does anyone have any thoughts? 

Thanks,

Gabe

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Re: How to choose a Wi-Fi network in recovery mode

[Joe Quinn]

How would that work, as I have a trackpad on a MacBook Pro

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 23, 2019, at 6:43 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> As mentioned, the WiFi network will already be connected if you were 
> connected to it prior to restarting your Mac.  Other than that, you may need 
> to move the mouse physically up to the right side of the MenuBar and click a 
> bit to see if you can find the WiFi menu.  It should really already be 
> connected though.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jun 23, 2019, at 15:04, Joe Quinn  wrote:
>> 
>> but how do i connect to the wifi network when pressing VO m twice doesn't 
>> get me to that screen?On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 2:25:28 PM UTC-5, Joe 
>> Quinn wrote:
>> I don’t mean to sound anxious, but I kind of am. I need a response as soon 
>> as possible. I am trying to reinstall my macOS Mojave, but I need to have a 
>> sure way of being able to choose a Wi-Fi network in recovery mode using 
>> voiceover. Going to the Internet recovery option is not an option, because 
>> it doesn’t speak. Voiceover m  twice seems to get me to a switch input 
>> screen, something to do with the keyboard? Any help would be greatly 
>> appreciated.
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MacBook Pro audio

[Gabe Griffith]

Hi all,

I have a late 2013 Macbook Pro running version 10.13.6. A couple of weeks ago I 
quit getting any audio out of the speakers. I have tried toggling mute and 
pressing the up volume button several times with no change. I'm getting audio 
through headphones but that's the only way I can use the computer. About the 
same time this happened I noticed that the round plasticky foot on the right 
front bottom corner is missing. Does anyone know if this would be related and 
if not does anyone have any thoughts? 

Thanks,

Gabe

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Re: How to choose a Wi-Fi network in recovery mode

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

As mentioned, the WiFi network will already be connected if you were connected 
to it prior to restarting your Mac.  Other than that, you may need to move the 
mouse physically up to the right side of the MenuBar and click a bit to see if 
you can find the WiFi menu.  It should really already be connected though.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 23, 2019, at 15:04, Joe Quinn  wrote:

but how do i connect to the wifi network when pressing VO m twice doesn't get 
me to that screen?On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 2:25:28 PM UTC-5, Joe Quinn wrote:
> I don’t mean to sound anxious, but I kind of am. I need a response as soon as 
> possible. I am trying to reinstall my macOS Mojave, but I need to have a sure 
> way of being able to choose a Wi-Fi network in recovery mode using voiceover. 
> Going to the Internet recovery option is not an option, because it doesn’t 
> speak. Voiceover m  twice seems to get me to a switch input screen, something 
> to do with the keyboard? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Apple mail insists upon replying from a dead me.com e-mail address when the original e-mail came to my iCloud.com address. Can't seem to prevent this

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Try going to Mail Prefs, Accounts, look through the list of eMail accounts.  If 
your old account is there, select it, then stop interacting with the Accounts 
table and navigate to the Remove button.  Also check in the Internet Accounts 
pane of System Prefs to see if the old account resides there at all.  If so, 
delete it from there.  If none of that seems to work, go back into Mail Prefs 
on the Accounts pane, select your current account, select the Server Settings 
tab, and confirm the Outgoing Mail Server is the iCloud server with your 
current credentials.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
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Jamf Certified Associate
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On Jun 23, 2019, at 17:10, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:

Tried sending this reply directly from Apple Mail.  It may not arrive.  No Joy! 
 kevj...@me.com  is NOT in my Previous Recipients Table. 
 More ideas?

On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 5:37:23 PM UTC-5, Kevin Gibbs wrote:
Guys, 

Many years ago, I subscribed to a Reaper mailing list using my kevj...@me.com 
 address.  This address is now long dead.  I have since 
unsubscribed and resubscribed to this mailing list using kevj...@icloud.com.  
However, even though my e-mails from this list come to my iCloud address, 
hitting reply automatically populates the sending address as kevj...@me.com 
.  If I don’t happen to remember to click on the 
outgoing address and change it to kevj...@icloud.com, the mail will be sent to 
nowhere and it will take a few days for me to realize that the reason I haven’t 
heard from whatever I asked about is because nobody saw what I wrote.   

I have tried my best to make sure that kevj...@me.com  
is toast.  It is no longer present as a sender’s e-mail address.  But it 
remains as an option in the list of e-mail addresses I can choose when sending 
e-mails.  In fact, if I am currently highlighting an e-mail that came to my 
iCloud account, initiating a blank e-mail appears to populate the From field 
with kevj...@me.com , regardless of what e-mail address 
I actually want in the From field.  I can’t remove this me.com  
address as an option in the From field no matter what I do.  Can anyone help?   

Thanks, 
Kevin

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Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

[kelly ford]

Hi Pete and all,

 

The sound card is definitely present.  I hear all the standard sounds from 
Windows and when the screen readers are talking, the sound meters indicate that 
audio is being produced.

 

Kelly

 

From:  on behalf of Pete De Vasto 

Reply-To: 
Date: Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 3:06 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

 

Two thinks, Kelly, that you’ve probably already done but just in case:

 

1. JAWS, particularly, as you know, has the Sound Card option as one of the 
things in the Utilities folder. See if there’s more than just the default 
Windows sound card as an option.

2. With your VM running, you should be able to do CTRL+Opt+Right to get to 
devices, interact with them and make sure the sound card is present there.

 

Not sure if this will help but thought I’d suggest anyhow.

 

Pete De Vasto



On Jun 23, 2019, at 12:07 PM, kelly ford  wrote:

 

This is very perplexing.  I have installed the VMWare tools, after using 
sighted help to get through setup.  This has no change.

 

I hear all the sounds from Windows but no screen reader speech.  I’ve now 
installed JAWS, NVDA and tried Narrator.

 

I can play music on the virtual machine and hear that.

 

Kelly

 

 

From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
Reply-To: 
Date: Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 11:06 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

 

Have you installed VMWare Fusion tools?  I had to do it via VMWare Tools menu 
in VMWare window.

 

Andrew

On Jun 23, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Kelly Ford  wrote:

 

It is newer. It is a 2017 model.

 

 


On Jun 23, 2019, at 3:03 AM, KliphnShari Miller  wrote:

If your macbookpro is not a 2014 or newer, you will have to get sited help to 
assist with the sound card options in the control pannel.

Come checkout the stur it up podcast, where we discuss technology, sports, have 
special guests, and is always family friendly

We are on Anchor

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And on Radio Public

You can send an email between Podcasts with your questions to

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Also follow us on Twitter, during our Shoutcast live Stream

 

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On Jun 23, 2019, at 12:13 AM, KellyFord  wrote:

Hi,

 

I am curious if anyone else can duplicate an issue or has a suggestion for a 
work around?

 

I installed Fusion 11 on a MacBook Pro.  I then created a new Windows VM and 
booted from an ISO for the most current release of Windows 10.  I was able to 
get Narrator to start to do the Windows install but have no speech.  I do have 
the sounds Narrator makes when moving around and such just not the voice.

 

Kelly

 

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Re: Apple mail insists upon replying from a dead me.com e-mail address when the original e-mail came to my iCloud.com address. Can't seem to prevent this

[Kevin Gibbs]

Tried sending this reply directly from Apple Mail.  It may not arrive.  No 
Joy!  kevj...@me.com is NOT in my Previous Recipients Table.  More ideas?

On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 5:37:23 PM UTC-5, Kevin Gibbs wrote:
>
> Guys, 
>
> Many years ago, I subscribed to a Reaper mailing list using my 
> kevj...@me.com address.  This address is now long dead.  I have since 
> unsubscribed and resubscribed to this mailing list using 
> kevj...@icloud.com.  However, even though my e-mails from this list come to 
> my iCloud address, hitting reply automatically populates the sending 
> address as kevj...@me.com.  If I don’t happen to remember to click on the 
> outgoing address and change it to kevj...@icloud.com, the mail will be sent 
> to nowhere and it will take a few days for me to realize that the reason I 
> haven’t heard from whatever I asked about is because nobody saw what I 
> wrote.   
>
> I have tried my best to make sure that kevj...@me.com is toast.  It is no 
> longer present as a sender’s e-mail address.  But it remains as an option 
> in the list of e-mail addresses I can choose when sending e-mails.  In 
> fact, if I am currently highlighting an e-mail that came to my iCloud 
> account, initiating a blank e-mail appears to populate the From field with 
> kevj...@me.com, regardless of what e-mail address I actually want in the 
> From field.  I can’t remove this me.com address as an option in the From 
> field no matter what I do.  Can anyone help?   
>
> Thanks, 
> Kevin

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Re: How to choose a Wi-Fi network in recovery mode

[John Panarese]

   You might have to press VO F1 twice to get to the application chooser or the 
VO-F2 twice to get to the Window Chooser. I forget. I had to do this a while 
ago, but I can't recall how I had to accomplish it.


> On Jun 23, 2019, at 5:04 PM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
> 
> but how do i connect to the wifi network when pressing VO m twice doesn't get 
> me to that screen?On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 2:25:28 PM UTC-5, Joe Quinn 
> wrote:
>> I don’t mean to sound anxious, but I kind of am. I need a response as soon 
>> as possible. I am trying to reinstall my macOS Mojave, but I need to have a 
>> sure way of being able to choose a Wi-Fi network in recovery mode using 
>> voiceover. Going to the Internet recovery option is not an option, because 
>> it doesn’t speak. Voiceover m  twice seems to get me to a switch input 
>> screen, something to do with the keyboard? Any help would be greatly 
>> appreciated.
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Re: Apple mail insists upon replying from a dead me.com e-mail address when the original e-mail came to my iCloud.com address. Can't seem to prevent this

[Kevin Gibbs]

Ryaond,

Close but no cigar.  I read through the entire previous recipients table and 
kevj...@me.com is not to be found.  Any other ideas?

Thanks,
Kevin
  



> On Jun 23, 2019, at 5:52 PM, Raymond Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> Sounds like this defunked address is in your past recipients table.  You need 
> to go in to your windows menu off your main menu and find this table and from 
> there delete the address you don’t want there.
> 
> 
> Sent from the first computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> The constantly barefooted Ray
> 
>> On Jun 23, 2019, at 5:37 PM, Kevin Gibbs > > wrote:
>> 
>> Guys,
>> 
>> Many years ago, I subscribed to a Reaper mailing list using my 
>> kevj...@me.com  address.  This address is now long 
>> dead.  I have since unsubscribed and resubscribed to this mailing list using 
>> kevj...@icloud.com .  However, even though my 
>> e-mails from this list come to my iCloud address, hitting reply 
>> automatically populates the sending address as kevj...@me.com 
>> .  If I don’t happen to remember to click on the 
>> outgoing address and change it to kevj...@icloud.com 
>> , the mail will be sent to nowhere and it will 
>> take a few days for me to realize that the reason I haven’t heard from 
>> whatever I asked about is because nobody saw what I wrote.  
>> 
>> I have tried my best to make sure that kevj...@me.com 
>>  is toast.  It is no longer present as a sender’s 
>> e-mail address.  But it remains as an option in the list of e-mail addresses 
>> I can choose when sending e-mails.  In fact, if I am currently highlighting 
>> an e-mail that came to my iCloud account, initiating a blank e-mail appears 
>> to populate the From field with kevj...@me.com , 
>> regardless of what e-mail address I actually want in the From field.  I 
>> can’t remove this me.com  address as an option in the From 
>> field no matter what I do.  Can anyone help?   
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Kevin
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Re: Apple mail insists upon replying from a dead me.com e-mail address when the original e-mail came to my iCloud.com address. Can't seem to prevent this

[Kevin Gibbs]

guys,

Following up.  I just now attempted to send a fresh e-mail to the Reaper 
list shown here.  Because I was sending this in Apple Mail while 
highlighting an unrelated message that came to my Gmail account, typing in 
RWP autofilled the TO field with r...@groups.io as it should.  I sent the 
message and I received it as I would have expected.  But when I attempted 
to reply to my own thread, my sender e-mail was kevj...@me.com again.  I 
have to kill this if it's the last thing I do.  

Ideas?

Kevin

On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 5:37:23 PM UTC-5, Kevin Gibbs wrote:
>
> Guys, 
>
> Many years ago, I subscribed to a Reaper mailing list using my 
> kevj...@me.com address.  This address is now long dead.  I have since 
> unsubscribed and resubscribed to this mailing list using 
> kevj...@icloud.com.  However, even though my e-mails from this list come to 
> my iCloud address, hitting reply automatically populates the sending 
> address as kevj...@me.com.  If I don’t happen to remember to click on the 
> outgoing address and change it to kevj...@icloud.com, the mail will be sent 
> to nowhere and it will take a few days for me to realize that the reason I 
> haven’t heard from whatever I asked about is because nobody saw what I 
> wrote.   
>
> I have tried my best to make sure that kevj...@me.com is toast.  It is no 
> longer present as a sender’s e-mail address.  But it remains as an option 
> in the list of e-mail addresses I can choose when sending e-mails.  In 
> fact, if I am currently highlighting an e-mail that came to my iCloud 
> account, initiating a blank e-mail appears to populate the From field with 
> kevj...@me.com, regardless of what e-mail address I actually want in the 
> From field.  I can’t remove this me.com address as an option in the From 
> field no matter what I do.  Can anyone help?   
>
> Thanks, 
> Kevin

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Re: Apple mail insists upon replying from a dead me.com e-mail address when the original e-mail came to my iCloud.com address. Can't seem to prevent this

[Raymond Foret Jr]

Sounds like this defunked address is in your past recipients table.  You need 
to go in to your windows menu off your main menu and find this table and from 
there delete the address you don’t want there.


Sent from the first computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:

Sincerely,

The constantly barefooted Ray

> On Jun 23, 2019, at 5:37 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
> 
> Guys,
> 
> Many years ago, I subscribed to a Reaper mailing list using my kevj...@me.com 
> address.  This address is now long dead.  I have since unsubscribed and 
> resubscribed to this mailing list using kevj...@icloud.com.  However, even 
> though my e-mails from this list come to my iCloud address, hitting reply 
> automatically populates the sending address as kevj...@me.com.  If I don’t 
> happen to remember to click on the outgoing address and change it to 
> kevj...@icloud.com, the mail will be sent to nowhere and it will take a few 
> days for me to realize that the reason I haven’t heard from whatever I asked 
> about is because nobody saw what I wrote.  
> 
> I have tried my best to make sure that kevj...@me.com is toast.  It is no 
> longer present as a sender’s e-mail address.  But it remains as an option in 
> the list of e-mail addresses I can choose when sending e-mails.  In fact, if 
> I am currently highlighting an e-mail that came to my iCloud account, 
> initiating a blank e-mail appears to populate the From field with 
> kevj...@me.com, regardless of what e-mail address I actually want in the From 
> field.  I can’t remove this me.com address as an option in the From field no 
> matter what I do.  Can anyone help?   
> 
> Thanks,
> Kevin
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Apple mail insists upon replying from a dead me.com e-mail address when the original e-mail came to my iCloud.com address. Can't seem to prevent this

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,

Many years ago, I subscribed to a Reaper mailing list using my kevj...@me.com 
address.  This address is now long dead.  I have since unsubscribed and 
resubscribed to this mailing list using kevj...@icloud.com.  However, even 
though my e-mails from this list come to my iCloud address, hitting reply 
automatically populates the sending address as kevj...@me.com.  If I don’t 
happen to remember to click on the outgoing address and change it to 
kevj...@icloud.com, the mail will be sent to nowhere and it will take a few 
days for me to realize that the reason I haven’t heard from whatever I asked 
about is because nobody saw what I wrote.  

I have tried my best to make sure that kevj...@me.com is toast.  It is no 
longer present as a sender’s e-mail address.  But it remains as an option in 
the list of e-mail addresses I can choose when sending e-mails.  In fact, if I 
am currently highlighting an e-mail that came to my iCloud account, initiating 
a blank e-mail appears to populate the From field with kevj...@me.com, 
regardless of what e-mail address I actually want in the From field.  I can’t 
remove this me.com address as an option in the From field no matter what I do.  
Can anyone help?   

Thanks,
Kevin

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Re: How to choose a Wi-Fi network in recovery mode

[Joe Quinn]

but how do i connect to the wifi network when pressing VO m twice doesn't get 
me to that screen?On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 2:25:28 PM UTC-5, Joe Quinn wrote:
> I don’t mean to sound anxious, but I kind of am. I need a response as soon as 
> possible. I am trying to reinstall my macOS Mojave, but I need to have a sure 
> way of being able to choose a Wi-Fi network in recovery mode using voiceover. 
> Going to the Internet recovery option is not an option, because it doesn’t 
> speak. Voiceover m  twice seems to get me to a switch input screen, something 
> to do with the keyboard? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: How to choose a Wi-Fi network in recovery mode

[Erik Heil]

Hello,
OK, here is the quick answer.  If you have previously connected to WiFi
before, and your Mac is in range of one of them, it will connect to it.
Basically what you have is a stripped-down version of MacOS, so connecting
to other WiFi networks is a simple solution using the menus.  I at least
hope this helps you a little bit.

--Erik

On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 12:25 PM Joe Quinn  wrote:

> I don’t mean to sound anxious, but I kind of am. I need a response as soon
> as possible. I am trying to reinstall my macOS Mojave, but I need to have a
> sure way of being able to choose a Wi-Fi network in recovery mode using
> voiceover. Going to the Internet recovery option is not an option, because
> it doesn’t speak. Voiceover m  twice seems to get me to a switch input
> screen, something to do with the keyboard? Any help would be greatly
> appreciated.
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Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

[Pete De Vasto]

Two thinks, Kelly, that you’ve probably already done but just in case:

1. JAWS, particularly, as you know, has the Sound Card option as one of the 
things in the Utilities folder. See if there’s more than just the default 
Windows sound card as an option.
2. With your VM running, you should be able to do CTRL+Opt+Right to get to 
devices, interact with them and make sure the sound card is present there.

Not sure if this will help but thought I’d suggest anyhow.

Pete De Vasto

> On Jun 23, 2019, at 12:07 PM, kelly ford  wrote:
> 
> This is very perplexing.  I have installed the VMWare tools, after using 
> sighted help to get through setup.  This has no change.
>  
> I hear all the sounds from Windows but no screen reader speech.  I’ve now 
> installed JAWS, NVDA and tried Narrator.
>  
> I can play music on the virtual machine and hear that.
>  
> Kelly
>  
>  
> From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries  >
> Reply-To:  >
> Date: Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 11:06 AM
> To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion
>  
> Have you installed VMWare Fusion tools?  I had to do it via VMWare Tools menu 
> in VMWare window.
>  
> Andrew
>> On Jun 23, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Kelly Ford > > wrote:
>>  
>> It is newer. It is a 2017 model.
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> On Jun 23, 2019, at 3:03 AM, KliphnShari Miller > > wrote:
>> 
>>> If your macbookpro is not a 2014 or newer, you will have to get sited help 
>>> to assist with the sound card options in the control pannel.
>>> 
>>> Come checkout the stur it up podcast , where 
>>> we discuss technology, sports, have special guests, and is always family 
>>> friendly
>>> 
>>> We are on Anchor 
>>> Spotify 
>>> Breaker 
>>> And on Radio Public 
>>> You can send an email between Podcasts with your questions to
>>> sturi...@icloud.com 
>>> Also follow us on Twitter , during our 
>>> Shoutcast live Stream 
>>>  
>>> And our blog  for updates and 
>>> announcements
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 23, 2019, at 12:13 AM, KellyFord >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> I am curious if anyone else can duplicate an issue or has a suggestion for 
>>> a work around?
>>>  
>>> I installed Fusion 11 on a MacBook Pro.  I then created a new Windows VM 
>>> and booted from an ISO for the most current release of Windows 10.  I was 
>>> able to get Narrator to start to do the Windows install but have no speech. 
>>>  I do have the sounds Narrator makes when moving around and such just not 
>>> the voice.
>>>  
>>> Kelly
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Scripting help

[Angus MacKinnon]

On my 2013 iMac running Mac OS 10.14.5 there are times I need to connect my 
Sennhieser HD440BT Bluetooth Head phones with my iMac via Menu 
Extras/Bluetooth/HD4.40BT/Connect. Can this process using Apple Script tied to 
a keystroke? I havee no experience e writing Apple Script. So, can someone 
please help write the Apple Script? Thank you. I use a Microsoft Natural 
Ergonomic 4000 V1.1 Keyboard.

Angus MacKinnon, Personalism Student
Charles Péguy said, “The revolution is moral or not at all”

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Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

[kelly ford]

This is very perplexing.  I have installed the VMWare tools, after using 
sighted help to get through setup.  This has no change.

 

I hear all the sounds from Windows but no screen reader speech.  I’ve now 
installed JAWS, NVDA and tried Narrator.

 

I can play music on the virtual machine and hear that.

 

Kelly

 

 

From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
Reply-To: 
Date: Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 11:06 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

 

Have you installed VMWare Fusion tools?  I had to do it via VMWare Tools menu 
in VMWare window.

 

Andrew

On Jun 23, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Kelly Ford  wrote:

 

It is newer. It is a 2017 model.

 

 


On Jun 23, 2019, at 3:03 AM, KliphnShari Miller  wrote:

If your macbookpro is not a 2014 or newer, you will have to get sited help to 
assist with the sound card options in the control pannel.

Come checkout the stur it up podcast, where we discuss technology, sports, have 
special guests, and is always family friendly

We are on Anchor

Spotify

Breaker

And on Radio Public

You can send an email between Podcasts with your questions to

sturi...@icloud.com

Also follow us on Twitter, during our Shoutcast live Stream

 

And our blog for updates and announcements


On Jun 23, 2019, at 12:13 AM, KellyFord  wrote:

Hi,

 

I am curious if anyone else can duplicate an issue or has a suggestion for a 
work around?

 

I installed Fusion 11 on a MacBook Pro.  I then created a new Windows VM and 
booted from an ISO for the most current release of Windows 10.  I was able to 
get Narrator to start to do the Windows install but have no speech.  I do have 
the sounds Narrator makes when moving around and such just not the voice.

 

Kelly

 

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How to choose a Wi-Fi network in recovery mode

[Joe Quinn]

I don’t mean to sound anxious, but I kind of am. I need a response as soon as 
possible. I am trying to reinstall my macOS Mojave, but I need to have a sure 
way of being able to choose a Wi-Fi network in recovery mode using voiceover. 
Going to the Internet recovery option is not an option, because it doesn’t 
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to do with the keyboard? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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RE: Any Good Journaling or Diary Apps, Anyone?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Jurgen,

Thank you for the recommendation.   

Okay, I'll give the One Day app, a try.

Mark

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On Behalf Of Jürgen Fleger
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 10:17 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any Good Journaling or Diary Apps, Anyone?

Hey Marc,

save your money. I don't like Mac Journal for the same reasons and some more.

I'm very happy with Day One. Syncing works great and it's easy to use. The only 
thing: the audio recorder is not really accessible with VoiceOver.But I capture 
audios in an other app and import it via the share sheet to Day One. Works fine.

So, give it a try. All versions are accessible, for iOS and Mac OS.

All the best
Jürgen


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

> Am 23.06.2019 um 03:42 schrieb M. Taylor :
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I downloaded Mac Journal for iPad a few weeks ago but, to be honest, I 
> don't really like it.  For one thing, it's kind of wonky when it comes 
> to having the data stored in iCloud.
> 
> When I open the app on my iPhone, sometimes it sees the entries I've 
> made on iPad and sometimes, .  Now I do not have Mac Journal for Mac 
> OS and I don't plan on spending anymore money on this particular product.
> 
> So, can anyone recommend another VoiceOver accessible diary/journaling app?
> It would be great if the app could store data on iCloud.
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
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Re: Unable to change info into audiobooks category of audiobook tracks with MP3 extension in iTunes

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   I did this recently and had no trouble doing it. I selected the 
album I wanted and went from there. You are in the right place to make 
the change.


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On 6/23/2019 9:03 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

it’s been driving me crazy for a long time.  Some of the audiobooks which I import into 
iTunes have the MP3 extension.  They are seen & sorted by itunes as music genre.  In 
the Info I seem to be unable to change this into audiobooks under options/media kind 
tab.  Is there something I am doing wrong?  In Options tab in the “media kind" 
popup button, the only category is Music.  But that’s just illogical as in the Details 
tab I can change the genre to audiobooks

Any ideas?

Andrew



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Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

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Have you installed VMWare Fusion tools?  I had to do it via VMWare Tools menu 
in VMWare window.

Andrew
> On Jun 23, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
> 
> It is newer. It is a 2017 model.
> 
> 
> 
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>> Hi,
>>  
>> I am curious if anyone else can duplicate an issue or has a suggestion for a 
>> work around?
>>  
>> I installed Fusion 11 on a MacBook Pro.  I then created a new Windows VM and 
>> booted from an ISO for the most current release of Windows 10.  I was able 
>> to get Narrator to start to do the Windows install but have no speech.  I do 
>> have the sounds Narrator makes when moving around and such just not the 
>> voice.
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Unable to change info into audiobooks category of audiobook tracks with MP3 extension in iTunes

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

it’s been driving me crazy for a long time.  Some of the audiobooks which I 
import into iTunes have the MP3 extension.  They are seen & sorted by itunes as 
music genre.  In the Info I seem to be unable to change this into audiobooks 
under options/media kind tab.  Is there something I am doing wrong?  In Options 
tab in the “media kind" popup button, the only category is Music.  But that’s 
just illogical as in the Details tab I can change the genre to audiobooks

Any ideas?

Andrew

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Re: Zedge.

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Hi!
Thanks for that one Petrus and Jessica.
I think i remove the crap app then.
Yes I have some nice tones from Star wars si i may have to check there.
/A

> 20 juni 2019 kl. 00:52 skrev Petrus Tuerlings :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> I had a look in the App Store and it looks like the Zedge app is for 
> wallpapers and stuff. There is another app called Infinity but I’ve never 
> used it and it looks like it has some quite bad reviews. There is another one 
> I used to have called Ring tones for iPhone Music, but I deleted that one. 
> They both have in app purchases. I have some quite good ring tones and alert 
> tones on my iPhone that I just purchase through the iTunes Store, I know they 
> are not free but at least they are always yours and there are no 
> subscriptions for any apps. I love Star Trek and have all of my sound effects 
> from the iTunes store.  Zedge 
> 
>> On 20/06/2019, at 7:48 AM, Jessica Moss > > wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve never really had much luck with that app.  If I remember correctly, it, 
>> like most ringtone apps I’ve ever downloaded, had a lot of either unlabeled 
>> buttons, or buttons that were very oddly-labeled, so I just had to play 
>> around with it and attempt to figure out what they were supposed to do.
>> 
>>> On Jun 19, 2019, at 2:19 PM, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Is anybody here using the Zedge app?
>>> I came across it on the Android platform and have found it on the Iphone 
>>> but i haven’t really  found out how it works on the Iphone.
>>> I can only find wallpapers so i wonder if i got the wrong app.
>>> I want to have some ringtones as i am a bit tired of the ones on the Iphone.
>>> /A
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Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

[Kelly Ford]

It is newer. It is a 2017 model.



> On Jun 23, 2019, at 3:03 AM, KliphnShari Miller  wrote:
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> If your macbookpro is not a 2014 or newer, you will have to get sited help to 
> assist with the sound card options in the control pannel.
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> Come checkout the stur it up podcast, where we discuss technology, sports, 
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> And our blog for updates and announcements
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> 
> On Jun 23, 2019, at 12:13 AM, KellyFord  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I am curious if anyone else can duplicate an issue or has a suggestion for a 
> work around?
>  
> I installed Fusion 11 on a MacBook Pro.  I then created a new Windows VM and 
> booted from an ISO for the most current release of Windows 10.  I was able to 
> get Narrator to start to do the Windows install but have no speech.  I do 
> have the sounds Narrator makes when moving around and such just not the voice.
>  
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Compared: Brydge Pro vs Logitech Slim Folio Pro

[KliphnShari Miller]

Third-party keyboards are really popular for the 2018 iPad Pros, and one of the 
best selling keyboards are the Brydge Pro and Logitech Slim Folio Pro. Both of 
these keyboards are available for the 11-inch and 12.9-inch iPad Pro. Let's 
compare and see which one is best for what type of user.


Side by side: Logitech Slim Folio Pro (left), Brydge Pro (right)
Brydge Pro is not a case, but an external keyboard

The Brydge Pro Keyboard is not a keyboard case like the Slim Folio Pro, it's an 
external Bluetooth keyboard that transforms your iPad Pro into a MacBook with 
its sturdy aluminum body that is cold to the touch and offers an almost 
unlimited viewing angle.


11-inch iPad Pro with Brydge Pro
The keyboard itself has decent key travel, as we mentioned in our review and 
are backlit with up to three different brightness options. It packs a battery 
that can last up to a year and charges via USB-C, has iOS shortcuts above the 
number key, and there's also a place for the second-generation Apple Pencil to 
sit on the iPad and wirelessly charge.

If you do want more of a "case" with the keyboard, Brydge does offer optional 
back covers that work with its keyboards for full coverage.



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Logitech offers full protection, and a keyboard

The Logitech Slim Folio Pro on the other hand is a really nice rugged keyboard 
case solution for the iPad Pro, which protects protects all four corners of the 
iPad while also having enough clearance for the second-generation Apple Pencil. 
It's made out of a high quality, durable silicone material and it's rugged.

Unlike the Brydge Pro, you'll have actual drop protection for your iPad Pro.


Logitech Slim Folio Pro
In terms of overall design though, we really like Brydge Pro keyboard in terms 
of looks. It's a lot sleeker, and feels way better to carry the iPad when it's 
closed, and it weighs less than Logitech's offering.

The Logitech Slim Folio Pro is not a slim device at all, despite the word 
"Slim" on its name. It's a bit thicker than the Brydge Pro, and noticeably 
heavier too, but there's a reason for that. While the Brydge Pro is lighter and 
slimmer than the Logitech, the Slim Folio Pro acts as a case as well, and uses 
different silicone materials to help protect the iPad from bumps and drops.

Functionality over portability?

When it comes to functionality, and how the keyboards perform, the Slim Folio 
Pro is the clear winner here. As mentioned in our review, the keyboard feels 
great, and has plenty of travel, very reminiscent of Apple's MacBook keyboard 
before they switched over to their new butterfly switches.

Typing on the Brydge Pro is just OK once you have it next to the Slim Folio Pro 
as it offers enough key travel, better than the Apple Smart Keyboard, but 
without the same key travel or tactile feedback as the Slim Folio Pro. One 
thing I do love from the Brydge Pro though is how bright the keys are at night, 
with its brightness options able to emit more light than the Logitech Slim 
Folio Pro.


Logitech Slim Folio Pro
Logitech offers two different typing positions by adjusting the back which 
gives you a more vertical view of the display. You can also set it in drawing' 
mode where the keyboard goes behind the iPad, but given the bigger footprint, 
and key travel on the Slim Folio Pro, pushing down on the iPad on either side 
of the device will make the iPad uneven at times and can be a bit frustrating 
when using the Apple Pencil.

The Brydge Pro, on the other hand, offers an almost unlimited viewing angles 
which is something I really love about this keyboard. Like a traditional 
laptop, you can move the iPad at almost any angle and type away, and you're not 
restricted to just two angles due to the free flowing hinge design. You can 
also put it in movie mode or drawing mode by taking out the iPad and flipping 
it the other way and folding it down.


Brydge Pro Keyboard
Battery life on the Slim Folio Pro is supposed to last up to three months which 
isn't terrible, but isn't great either. The Brydge Pro on the other hand is 
supposed to last up to a year on a single charge. We haven't had these two 
keyboards for more than 3 months to check if these claims are true, but if 
you're interested in a revisited video, let us know in the comments below.

Which wins out?

That said, which one gets the edge?

Here's the thing. If you're looking for a traditional folio keyboard case 
that'll protect your iPad Pro from drops or bumps and scratches, and you don't 
really care how thick or heavy your iPad Pro is, then pick up the Logitech Slim 
Folio Pro. But if you're looking for something unique that'll offer an almost 
unlimited viewing angles that mimics a traditional laptop that is thinner, and 
weighs less, but still want a good typing experience, the Brydge Pro is what 
you should pick up.

Where to buy

The Brydge keyboard for Apple's 11-inch iPad Pro and third-generation 12.9-inch 
iPad Pro can be purchased f

Re: Question for Apple TV users regarding sound bar

[KliphnShari Miller]

Sorry it took me so long to reply to this message.  Have 2 jobs and kids aare 
out for the summer.  Anyway, here is the link. To the yamaha sound bar that I 
have
Yamaha MusicCast BAR 400 Sound Bar with Wireless Subwoofer and Alexa 
Connectivity - Black 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07G1SQNV1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_XGBrVSzYce9YQ


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On Jun 15, 2019, at 6:03 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:

I’ve looked at the Yamaha models. They looked good and weren’t so pricey. I’d 
appreciate the model number if you can get it.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Jun 15, 2019, at 6:34 PM, KliphnShari Miller  wrote:
> 
> I am using the Yamaha soun bar.  Will have to post the link later.  It 
> supports airplay2, you can also just bluetooth any audio to it, also has an 
> app where Apple Music, pandora, spotafi and your music app will show up.  You 
> can adjust the equalizer and even update the software in this app since this 
> sounder connects to the internet.  It even pairs with my appleTV4K remote.  
> So everything works together flawlessly 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 15, 2019, at 8:44 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I’m jumping in here a little late, but I’m also interested in a sound bar. 
>> Not so much for TV watching, but as a convenient way of listening to music. 
>> Any ideas? I just want to connect my iPhone either by Bluetooth or through a 
>> wire to a decent speaker system and I thought that sound bars would do the 
>> trick? All comments and suggestions welcome thank youSent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 14, 2019, at 9:44 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> 
>>> I have't heard of polk audio in years and I mean 20 years or so.
>>> 
>>> They use to be very good products I can only assume they still are.
>>> 
>>> Good luck, hope it works as you require it.
>>> 
>>> Simon F
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>> Behalf Of Mary Otten
>>> Sent: Saturday, 15 June 2019 5:40 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Question for Apple TV users regarding sound bar
>>> 
>>> Hi Simon,
>>> I have decided on a poke sound bar, from Amazon for 400 bucks. It had 
>>> really good reviews, including one by a blind person who said they were 
>>> using an Apple TV with it. It is the Polk audio magnifi max. It comes with 
>>> a nice healthy sized sub, so I am looking forward to a significant upgrade 
>>> especially as concerns movie viewing.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 14, 2019, at 2:54 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
 
 Hi mary,
 
 I think I saw this reply from Tim also.
 
 The newer 4th gen tvs don't have the optical connection.
 
 This is why my sonos play bar connects to my Samsung tv and then my apple 
 tv also but using HDMI connects to the Samsung tv also.
 
 I then had to disable the Samsung tv's speakers to ensure the sound came 
 through the sonos systems.
 
 I know my apple tv 3rd gen had optical input / output.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  On Behalf Of Mary Otten
 Sent: Friday, 14 June 2019 2:52 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Question for Apple TV users regarding sound bar
 
 Hi Simon,
 Well, it seems to me that we tried the sound bar that my husband currently 
 uses, which is one that exhibits the problem, with an optical cable. But I 
 could be wrong. That probably would’ve been with an older Apple TV. I have 
 the one just before the 4K these days, and I don’t even know if it has an 
 optical connection. Seems to me I remember that it doesn’t. But I will 
 have to check into it.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jun 13, 2019, at 3:23 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I've got a Sonos Play Bar,
> It's a few years old now and I don't have any issues with the 
> voiceover voice being cut off from my apple tv, This may well be due 
> to my sound bar being connected to my tv using an optical cable and 
> my apple tv connected to my Samsung tv with HDMI
> 
> That way everything comes through the tv first and as I've switched the 
> tv speakers off the sonos play bar and surrounds play the related audio.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> -Original Message-
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>  On Behalf Of Mary Otten
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Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

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On Jun 23, 2019, at 12:13 AM, KellyFord  wrote:

Hi,
 
I am curious if anyone else can duplicate an issue or has a suggestion for a 
work around?
 
I installed Fusion 11 on a MacBook Pro.  I then created a new Windows VM and 
booted from an ISO for the most current release of Windows 10.  I was able to 
get Narrator to start to do the Windows install but have no speech.  I do have 
the sounds Narrator makes when moving around and such just not the voice.
 
Kelly
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