RE: HomeKit thermostat?

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Cameron,
It's in the app. As stated, the Nest has no physical switches. I use the app to 
switch from heat to cool and sometimes to off.
Best Regards,

Les

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Cameron Strife
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 1:56 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: HomeKit thermostat?

Hi. Okay, thanks for the info.

One more question...

We have a gas furnace with bassboard heating and electric central air.
Our current thermostat has a physical switch that let's you choose heat, cool, 
or off.

Does the Nest have this sort of switch or is it in the app? (I haven't actually 
got to touch the Nest and I'll be buying it on amazon so thought I'd ask.)



On 7/24/20, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> Hi Donna,
> I have not experienced the problems with SIRI that you have 
> referenced. But my needs are modest, I'm retired and that makes a difference.
> Best Regards,
>
> Les
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> 
> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 1:39 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: HomeKit thermostat?
>
> Cameron, that is the very reason that we switched from Nest to ecobee. 
> Nest and Siri do not play well together. The only way to control Nest 
> using Siri is via Google Assistant. You cannot set up a Nest device in 
> HomeKit.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 12:37 PM, Cameron Strife 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi. I'm looking at various thermostat options as ours is on it's way 
>> out and we want something more blind friendly.
>>
>> How is the Nest app in terms of ease of use with Voiceover?
>>
>> We have Alexa via my echo third gen speaker but I think I'd rather go 
>> the iOS route...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 7/24/20, John JD Denning  wrote:
>>> Trouble with a nest for me is it’s not HomeKit
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Jul 24, 2020, at 11:41, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:

 Well, if you're a control freak, then I am, too.

 I gave up trying to use Siri with the Nest, because I found it a 
 little too quirky. So in a nutshell, the Ecobee works great with 
 Siri, but the app is far less intuitive than Nest. The one thing I 
 can say though, is when you change the temperature with Siri, the 
 app puts it on what it calls a hold. You can set the app so that 
 the hold stays in effect until you cancel it. So, if you change the 
 temp with Siri, you can either change it back with Siri, or just 
 open the app and cancel the hold, in which case it reverts back to 
 your pre-set temperature.
 Cheers,
 Donna


> On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:32 AM, John JD Denning 
> 
> wrote:
>
> Thank you, that’s the kind of feedback I was hoping to get. That 
> is the one I’ve been looking at. But really would love to know if 
> somebody like something else better or not.
>
> I think a lot of the thought from different companies is that 
> people will put it in automatic and let it build your routine and 
> set the temperature automatically. I don’t do that I like to be 
> able to tell it off on and what temperature. But maybe I’m a 
> control freak.
>
> I have The nest right now. I’ve had it for many years is the 
> original nest. The app has its quirks, but is very straightforward.
> And I’ve been using it with Siri through the Google app but that’s 
> awkward.
>
> Again thanks.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 09:40, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> We have the Ecobee. Mostly I use that app rather than the home 
>> app, or I just use Siri. Ecobee has done a nice job with 
>> accessibility. My only criticism is, having also used the Nest 
>> app, I like the Nest app better.
>> It's less layered, so easier to do things like modify the 
>> temperature. I think Ecobee operates on the premise that you will 
>> set regular temps and mostly just leave them there, which is not 
>> how I operate.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 8:27 AM, John JD Denning 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyone here have a HomeKit thermostat?ure.
>>
>>> Such as the ecobee, or Honeywell or another? If so can you give 
>>> me your opinions on the accessibility of the app? And do you use 
>>> the thermostat app most or the home app?
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
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Re: HomeKit thermostat?

[John JD Denning]

The nest has no physical switches. Whether it can be controlled or not depends 
on what wires are coming to the thermostat. You would really probably be best 
if you contact Nest and ask them.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2020, at 13:57, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> It’s in the app. But it’s easy to do.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 12:55 PM, Cameron Strife  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. Okay, thanks for the info.
>> 
>> One more question...
>> 
>> We have a gas furnace with bassboard heating and electric central air.
>> Our current thermostat has a physical switch that let's you choose
>> heat, cool, or off.
>> 
>> Does the Nest have this sort of switch or is it in the app? (I haven't
>> actually got to touch the Nest and I'll be buying it on amazon so
>> thought I'd ask.)
>> 
>> 
>> 
 On 7/24/20, Les Kriegler  wrote:
>>> Hi Donna,
>>> I have not experienced the problems with SIRI that you have referenced. But
>>> my needs are modest, I'm retired and that makes a difference.
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> Les
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 1:39 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: HomeKit thermostat?
>>> 
>>> Cameron, that is the very reason that we switched from Nest to ecobee. Nest
>>> and Siri do not play well together. The only way to control Nest using Siri
>>> is via Google Assistant. You cannot set up a Nest device in HomeKit.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jul 24, 2020, at 12:37 PM, Cameron Strife 
 wrote:
 
 Hi. I'm looking at various thermostat options as ours is on it's way
 out and we want something more blind friendly.
 
 How is the Nest app in terms of ease of use with Voiceover?
 
 We have Alexa via my echo third gen speaker but I think I'd rather go
 the iOS route...
 
 
 
 
> On 7/24/20, John JD Denning  wrote:
> Trouble with a nest for me is it’s not HomeKit
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 11:41, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, if you're a control freak, then I am, too.
>> 
>> I gave up trying to use Siri with the Nest, because I found it a
>> little too quirky. So in a nutshell, the Ecobee works great with
>> Siri, but the app is far less intuitive than Nest. The one thing I
>> can say though, is when you change the temperature with Siri, the
>> app puts it on what it calls a hold. You can set the app so that the
>> hold stays in effect until you cancel it. So, if you change the temp
>> with Siri, you can either change it back with Siri, or just open the
>> app and cancel the hold, in which case it reverts back to your pre-set
>> temperature.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:32 AM, John JD Denning
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you, that’s the kind of feedback I was hoping to get. That is
>>> the one I’ve been looking at. But really would love to know if
>>> somebody like something else better or not.
>>> 
>>> I think a lot of the thought from different companies is that
>>> people will put it in automatic and let it build your routine and
>>> set the temperature automatically. I don’t do that I like to be
>>> able to tell it off on and what temperature. But maybe I’m a control
>>> freak.
>>> 
>>> I have The nest right now. I’ve had it for many years is the
>>> original nest. The app has its quirks, but is very straightforward.
>>> And I’ve been using it with Siri through the Google app but that’s
>>> awkward.
>>> 
>>> Again thanks.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Jul 24, 2020, at 09:40, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>  wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 We have the Ecobee. Mostly I use that app rather than the home
 app, or I just use Siri. Ecobee has done a nice job with
 accessibility. My only criticism is, having also used the Nest app, I
 like the Nest app better.
 It's less layered, so easier to do things like modify the
 temperature. I think Ecobee operates on the premise that you will
 set regular temps and mostly just leave them there, which is not how I
 operate.
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On Jul 24, 2020, at 8:27 AM, John JD Denning
> 
> wrote:
> 
> Anyone here have a HomeKit thermostat?ure.
 
> Such as the ecobee, or Honeywell or another? If so can you give
> me your opinions on the accessibility of the app? And do you use
> the thermostat app most or the home app?
 
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Re: HomeKit thermostat?

[John JD Denning]

If you just want to control the thermostat the nest app works very well with 
voiceover. I have no real complaints with that. But if you want to integrate it 
into a HomeKit environment like say to use it to control fans or shades then no 
it’s not HomeKit compatible. Plus it isn’t as secure as HomeKit.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2020, at 13:47, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> I have not experienced the problems with SIRI that you have referenced. But 
> my needs are modest, I'm retired and that makes a difference.
> Best Regards,
> 
> Les
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 1:39 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: HomeKit thermostat?
> 
> Cameron, that is the very reason that we switched from Nest to ecobee. Nest 
> and Siri do not play well together. The only way to control Nest using Siri 
> is via Google Assistant. You cannot set up a Nest device in HomeKit.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 12:37 PM, Cameron Strife  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. I'm looking at various thermostat options as ours is on it's way 
>> out and we want something more blind friendly.
>> 
>> How is the Nest app in terms of ease of use with Voiceover?
>> 
>> We have Alexa via my echo third gen speaker but I think I'd rather go
>> the iOS route...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
 On 7/24/20, John JD Denning  wrote:
>>> Trouble with a nest for me is it’s not HomeKit
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jul 24, 2020, at 11:41, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Well, if you're a control freak, then I am, too.
 
 I gave up trying to use Siri with the Nest, because I found it a 
 little too quirky. So in a nutshell, the Ecobee works great with 
 Siri, but the app is far less intuitive than Nest. The one thing I 
 can say though, is when you change the temperature with Siri, the 
 app puts it on what it calls a hold. You can set the app so that the 
 hold stays in effect until you cancel it. So, if you change the temp 
 with Siri, you can either change it back with Siri, or just open the 
 app and cancel the hold, in which case it reverts back to your pre-set 
 temperature.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 
> On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:32 AM, John JD Denning 
> 
> wrote:
> 
> Thank you, that’s the kind of feedback I was hoping to get. That is 
> the one I’ve been looking at. But really would love to know if 
> somebody like something else better or not.
> 
> I think a lot of the thought from different companies is that 
> people will put it in automatic and let it build your routine and 
> set the temperature automatically. I don’t do that I like to be 
> able to tell it off on and what temperature. But maybe I’m a control 
> freak.
> 
> I have The nest right now. I’ve had it for many years is the 
> original nest. The app has its quirks, but is very straightforward. 
> And I’ve been using it with Siri through the Google app but that’s 
> awkward.
> 
> Again thanks.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 09:40, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> We have the Ecobee. Mostly I use that app rather than the home 
>> app, or I just use Siri. Ecobee has done a nice job with 
>> accessibility. My only criticism is, having also used the Nest app, I 
>> like the Nest app better.
>> It's less layered, so easier to do things like modify the 
>> temperature. I think Ecobee operates on the premise that you will 
>> set regular temps and mostly just leave them there, which is not how I 
>> operate.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 8:27 AM, John JD Denning 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anyone here have a HomeKit thermostat?ure.
>> 
>>> Such as the ecobee, or Honeywell or another? If so can you give 
>>> me your opinions on the accessibility of the app? And do you use 
>>> the thermostat app most or the home app?
>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
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Re: HomeKit thermostat?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

It’s in the app. But it’s easy to do.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2020, at 12:55 PM, Cameron Strife  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi. Okay, thanks for the info.
> 
> One more question...
> 
> We have a gas furnace with bassboard heating and electric central air.
> Our current thermostat has a physical switch that let's you choose
> heat, cool, or off.
> 
> Does the Nest have this sort of switch or is it in the app? (I haven't
> actually got to touch the Nest and I'll be buying it on amazon so
> thought I'd ask.)
> 
> 
> 
>> On 7/24/20, Les Kriegler  wrote:
>> Hi Donna,
>> I have not experienced the problems with SIRI that you have referenced. But
>> my needs are modest, I'm retired and that makes a difference.
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> Les
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 1:39 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: HomeKit thermostat?
>> 
>> Cameron, that is the very reason that we switched from Nest to ecobee. Nest
>> and Siri do not play well together. The only way to control Nest using Siri
>> is via Google Assistant. You cannot set up a Nest device in HomeKit.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 12:37 PM, Cameron Strife 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi. I'm looking at various thermostat options as ours is on it's way
>>> out and we want something more blind friendly.
>>> 
>>> How is the Nest app in terms of ease of use with Voiceover?
>>> 
>>> We have Alexa via my echo third gen speaker but I think I'd rather go
>>> the iOS route...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 7/24/20, John JD Denning  wrote:
 Trouble with a nest for me is it’s not HomeKit
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jul 24, 2020, at 11:41, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>  wrote:
> 
> Well, if you're a control freak, then I am, too.
> 
> I gave up trying to use Siri with the Nest, because I found it a
> little too quirky. So in a nutshell, the Ecobee works great with
> Siri, but the app is far less intuitive than Nest. The one thing I
> can say though, is when you change the temperature with Siri, the
> app puts it on what it calls a hold. You can set the app so that the
> hold stays in effect until you cancel it. So, if you change the temp
> with Siri, you can either change it back with Siri, or just open the
> app and cancel the hold, in which case it reverts back to your pre-set
> temperature.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:32 AM, John JD Denning
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you, that’s the kind of feedback I was hoping to get. That is
>> the one I’ve been looking at. But really would love to know if
>> somebody like something else better or not.
>> 
>> I think a lot of the thought from different companies is that
>> people will put it in automatic and let it build your routine and
>> set the temperature automatically. I don’t do that I like to be
>> able to tell it off on and what temperature. But maybe I’m a control
>> freak.
>> 
>> I have The nest right now. I’ve had it for many years is the
>> original nest. The app has its quirks, but is very straightforward.
>> And I’ve been using it with Siri through the Google app but that’s
>> awkward.
>> 
>> Again thanks.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jul 24, 2020, at 09:40, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi John,
>>> 
>>> We have the Ecobee. Mostly I use that app rather than the home
>>> app, or I just use Siri. Ecobee has done a nice job with
>>> accessibility. My only criticism is, having also used the Nest app, I
>>> like the Nest app better.
>>> It's less layered, so easier to do things like modify the
>>> temperature. I think Ecobee operates on the premise that you will
>>> set regular temps and mostly just leave them there, which is not how I
>>> operate.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On Jul 24, 2020, at 8:27 AM, John JD Denning
 
 wrote:
 
 Anyone here have a HomeKit thermostat?ure.
>>> 
 Such as the ecobee, or Honeywell or another? If so can you give
 me your opinions on the accessibility of the app? And do you use
 the thermostat app most or the home app?
>>> 
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: HomeKit thermostat?

[Cameron Strife]

Hi. Okay, thanks for the info.

One more question...

We have a gas furnace with bassboard heating and electric central air.
Our current thermostat has a physical switch that let's you choose
heat, cool, or off.

Does the Nest have this sort of switch or is it in the app? (I haven't
actually got to touch the Nest and I'll be buying it on amazon so
thought I'd ask.)



On 7/24/20, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> Hi Donna,
> I have not experienced the problems with SIRI that you have referenced. But
> my needs are modest, I'm retired and that makes a difference.
> Best Regards,
>
> Les
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 1:39 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: HomeKit thermostat?
>
> Cameron, that is the very reason that we switched from Nest to ecobee. Nest
> and Siri do not play well together. The only way to control Nest using Siri
> is via Google Assistant. You cannot set up a Nest device in HomeKit.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 12:37 PM, Cameron Strife 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi. I'm looking at various thermostat options as ours is on it's way
>> out and we want something more blind friendly.
>>
>> How is the Nest app in terms of ease of use with Voiceover?
>>
>> We have Alexa via my echo third gen speaker but I think I'd rather go
>> the iOS route...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 7/24/20, John JD Denning  wrote:
>>> Trouble with a nest for me is it’s not HomeKit
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Jul 24, 2020, at 11:41, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
  wrote:

 Well, if you're a control freak, then I am, too.

 I gave up trying to use Siri with the Nest, because I found it a
 little too quirky. So in a nutshell, the Ecobee works great with
 Siri, but the app is far less intuitive than Nest. The one thing I
 can say though, is when you change the temperature with Siri, the
 app puts it on what it calls a hold. You can set the app so that the
 hold stays in effect until you cancel it. So, if you change the temp
 with Siri, you can either change it back with Siri, or just open the
 app and cancel the hold, in which case it reverts back to your pre-set
 temperature.
 Cheers,
 Donna


> On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:32 AM, John JD Denning
> 
> wrote:
>
> Thank you, that’s the kind of feedback I was hoping to get. That is
> the one I’ve been looking at. But really would love to know if
> somebody like something else better or not.
>
> I think a lot of the thought from different companies is that
> people will put it in automatic and let it build your routine and
> set the temperature automatically. I don’t do that I like to be
> able to tell it off on and what temperature. But maybe I’m a control
> freak.
>
> I have The nest right now. I’ve had it for many years is the
> original nest. The app has its quirks, but is very straightforward.
> And I’ve been using it with Siri through the Google app but that’s
> awkward.
>
> Again thanks.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 09:40, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> We have the Ecobee. Mostly I use that app rather than the home
>> app, or I just use Siri. Ecobee has done a nice job with
>> accessibility. My only criticism is, having also used the Nest app, I
>> like the Nest app better.
>> It's less layered, so easier to do things like modify the
>> temperature. I think Ecobee operates on the premise that you will
>> set regular temps and mostly just leave them there, which is not how I
>> operate.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 8:27 AM, John JD Denning
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyone here have a HomeKit thermostat?ure.
>>
>>> Such as the ecobee, or Honeywell or another? If so can you give
>>> me your opinions on the accessibility of the app? And do you use
>>> the thermostat app most or the home app?
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
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RE: HomeKit thermostat?

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Donna,
I have not experienced the problems with SIRI that you have referenced. But my 
needs are modest, I'm retired and that makes a difference.
Best Regards,

Les

-Original Message-
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 1:39 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: HomeKit thermostat?

Cameron, that is the very reason that we switched from Nest to ecobee. Nest and 
Siri do not play well together. The only way to control Nest using Siri is via 
Google Assistant. You cannot set up a Nest device in HomeKit.
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2020, at 12:37 PM, Cameron Strife  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi. I'm looking at various thermostat options as ours is on it's way 
> out and we want something more blind friendly.
> 
> How is the Nest app in terms of ease of use with Voiceover?
> 
> We have Alexa via my echo third gen speaker but I think I'd rather go 
> the iOS route...
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 7/24/20, John JD Denning  wrote:
>> Trouble with a nest for me is it’s not HomeKit
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 11:41, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, if you're a control freak, then I am, too.
>>> 
>>> I gave up trying to use Siri with the Nest, because I found it a 
>>> little too quirky. So in a nutshell, the Ecobee works great with 
>>> Siri, but the app is far less intuitive than Nest. The one thing I 
>>> can say though, is when you change the temperature with Siri, the 
>>> app puts it on what it calls a hold. You can set the app so that the 
>>> hold stays in effect until you cancel it. So, if you change the temp 
>>> with Siri, you can either change it back with Siri, or just open the 
>>> app and cancel the hold, in which case it reverts back to your pre-set 
>>> temperature.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:32 AM, John JD Denning 
 
 wrote:
 
 Thank you, that’s the kind of feedback I was hoping to get. That is 
 the one I’ve been looking at. But really would love to know if 
 somebody like something else better or not.
 
 I think a lot of the thought from different companies is that 
 people will put it in automatic and let it build your routine and 
 set the temperature automatically. I don’t do that I like to be 
 able to tell it off on and what temperature. But maybe I’m a control freak.
 
 I have The nest right now. I’ve had it for many years is the 
 original nest. The app has its quirks, but is very straightforward. 
 And I’ve been using it with Siri through the Google app but that’s awkward.
 
 Again thanks.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 09:40, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> We have the Ecobee. Mostly I use that app rather than the home 
> app, or I just use Siri. Ecobee has done a nice job with 
> accessibility. My only criticism is, having also used the Nest app, I 
> like the Nest app better.
> It's less layered, so easier to do things like modify the 
> temperature. I think Ecobee operates on the premise that you will 
> set regular temps and mostly just leave them there, which is not how I 
> operate.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 8:27 AM, John JD Denning 
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Anyone here have a HomeKit thermostat?ure.
> 
>> Such as the ecobee, or Honeywell or another? If so can you give 
>> me your opinions on the accessibility of the app? And do you use 
>> the thermostat app most or the home app?
> 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
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RE: HomeKit thermostat?

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Cameron,
Well, I've been a happy Nest user for several years. The app works well. You 
can adjust the temperature easily and eventually, it will remember your 
preferred settings. The only issue is the scheduling option as that based on a 
grid. Honestly, not being able to schedule my temperature preferences was not a 
show stopper for me. Overall, I'm a very satisfied Nest user.
Best Regards,

Les

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: HomeKit thermostat?

Hi. I'm looking at various thermostat options as ours is on it's way out and we 
want something more blind friendly.

How is the Nest app in terms of ease of use with Voiceover?

We have Alexa via my echo third gen speaker but I think I'd rather go the iOS 
route...




On 7/24/20, John JD Denning  wrote:
> Trouble with a nest for me is it’s not HomeKit
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 11:41, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Well, if you're a control freak, then I am, too.
>>
>> I gave up trying to use Siri with the Nest, because I found it a 
>> little too quirky. So in a nutshell, the Ecobee works great with 
>> Siri, but the app is far less intuitive than Nest. The one thing I 
>> can say though, is when you change the temperature with Siri, the app 
>> puts it on what it calls a hold. You can set the app so that the hold 
>> stays in effect until you cancel it. So, if you change the temp with 
>> Siri, you can either change it back with Siri, or just open the app 
>> and cancel the hold, in which case it reverts back to your pre-set 
>> temperature.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:32 AM, John JD Denning 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you, that’s the kind of feedback I was hoping to get. That is 
>>> the one I’ve been looking at. But really would love to know if 
>>> somebody like something else better or not.
>>>
>>> I think a lot of the thought from different companies is that people 
>>> will put it in automatic and let it build your routine and set the 
>>> temperature automatically. I don’t do that I like to be able to tell 
>>> it off on and what temperature. But maybe I’m a control freak.
>>>
>>> I have The nest right now. I’ve had it for many years is the 
>>> original nest. The app has its quirks, but is very straightforward. 
>>> And I’ve been using it with Siri through the Google app but that’s awkward.
>>>
>>> Again thanks.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
> On Jul 24, 2020, at 09:40, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:

 Hi John,

 We have the Ecobee. Mostly I use that app rather than the home app, 
 or I just use Siri. Ecobee has done a nice job with accessibility. 
 My only criticism is, having also used the Nest app, I like the Nest app 
 better.
 It's less layered, so easier to do things like modify the 
 temperature. I think Ecobee operates on the premise that you will 
 set regular temps and mostly just leave them there, which is not how I 
 operate.
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On Jul 24, 2020, at 8:27 AM, John JD Denning 
> 
> wrote:
>
> Anyone here have a HomeKit thermostat?ure.

> Such as the ecobee, or Honeywell or another? If so can you give me 
> your opinions on the accessibility of the app? And do you use the 
> thermostat app most or the home app?

>
> Thanks
>
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Re: Plain text documents

[Tim M]

Ok, I searched for iCloud in Microsoft store and found its the only one that 
comes up.
Now I hit the get button and then install button. Now all that comes up for 
iCloud is the launch button.
After that wa done I hit windows key and arrowed down iCloud was first choice 
and hit enter.
Now the setup for iCloud came up asking for my apple account. Once I put the 
info in it works just like it does on my mac.
Now it did ask me to sink a few things like book marks and then hit sink.
That was all there is to it.
So if you have something that just says cloud check for viruses, unless you 
have another program using cloud services.


> On Jul 22, 2020, at 5:37 PM, FIOGKOS  wrote:
> 
> Hi Karen, not exactly, what do I mean, well I type in iCloud and the thing 
> that pops up is cloud sync something. It doesn’t say iCloud it says just 
> cloud I did click on it and it looks like it’s for one drive so obviously 
> that’s not what I’m looking for thank you anyway.
> 
> 
> Twitter
> @FiogkosZoe
> 
> Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel when 
> he's late
> 
> 
>> On Jul 22, 2020, at 2:37 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Zoe,
>> I am sorry this is so frustrating.
>> You mentioned finding an icloud sync option  on your Windows  laptop. What 
>> happens when this is  explored?
>> I have never been a windows user, but wonder if there is a way to get 
>> details on an app before running?
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, 22 Jul 2020, FIOGKOS wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim I did that, many times, I even had my husband do it who is cited it 
>>> does say install and open we click that and nothing happens
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Twitter
>>> @FiogkosZoe
>>> 
>>> Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel 
>>> when he's late
>>> 
>>> 
> On Jul 22, 2020, at 1:31 PM, Tim M  wrote:
 
 Go back into the Microsoft store and search for iCloud again. Once you 
 found it tab and see if there is not a install button. Sometimes you have 
 t tab and click it twice to get it.
 Tim M
 
 
 
> On Jul 22, 2020, at 11:38 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> That sounds like something for Microsoft support, unfortunately. Even if 
> you own it, you should be able to re-download it. You might try googling, 
> Microsoft store gives message that app is already owned" or something 
> like that, and see what you can find.
> 
> About the only other thing I can think of to suggest is that you use the 
> Windows key to search for iCloud setup.exe.
> Good luck!
> Best,
> Donna
> 
>> On Jul 22, 2020, at 10:32 AM, FIOGKOS  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi again Donna thank you so much for trying to help. This is the strange 
>> issue I am running windows 10 not an earlier version. None of this makes 
>> any sense I already tried downloading iCloud for windows and Microsoft 
>> store tells me I own the app but as I said before I can’t find it 
>> anywhere.
>> 
>> Twitter
>> @FiogkosZoe
>> 
>> Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel 
>> when he's late
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 22, 2020, at 11:25 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
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Re: HomeKit thermostat?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Cameron, that is the very reason that we switched from Nest to ecobee. Nest and 
Siri do not play well together. The only way to control Nest using Siri is via 
Google Assistant. You cannot set up a Nest device in HomeKit.
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2020, at 12:37 PM, Cameron Strife  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi. I'm looking at various thermostat options as ours is on it's way
> out and we want something more blind friendly.
> 
> How is the Nest app in terms of ease of use with Voiceover?
> 
> We have Alexa via my echo third gen speaker but I think I'd rather go
> the iOS route...
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 7/24/20, John JD Denning  wrote:
>> Trouble with a nest for me is it’s not HomeKit
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 11:41, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, if you're a control freak, then I am, too.
>>> 
>>> I gave up trying to use Siri with the Nest, because I found it a little
>>> too quirky. So in a nutshell, the Ecobee works great with Siri, but the
>>> app is far less intuitive than Nest. The one thing I can say though, is
>>> when you change the temperature with Siri, the app puts it on what it
>>> calls a hold. You can set the app so that the hold stays in effect until
>>> you cancel it. So, if you change the temp with Siri, you can either change
>>> it back with Siri, or just open the app and cancel the hold, in which case
>>> it reverts back to your pre-set temperature.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:32 AM, John JD Denning 
 wrote:
 
 Thank you, that’s the kind of feedback I was hoping to get. That is the
 one I’ve been looking at. But really would love to know if somebody like
 something else better or not.
 
 I think a lot of the thought from different companies is that people will
 put it in automatic and let it build your routine and set the temperature
 automatically. I don’t do that I like to be able to tell it off on and
 what temperature. But maybe I’m a control freak.
 
 I have The nest right now. I’ve had it for many years is the original
 nest. The app has its quirks, but is very straightforward. And I’ve been
 using it with Siri through the Google app but that’s awkward.
 
 Again thanks.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 09:40, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>>  wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> We have the Ecobee. Mostly I use that app rather than the home app, or I
> just use Siri. Ecobee has done a nice job with accessibility. My only
> criticism is, having also used the Nest app, I like the Nest app better.
> It's less layered, so easier to do things like modify the temperature. I
> think Ecobee operates on the premise that you will set regular temps and
> mostly just leave them there, which is not how I operate.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 8:27 AM, John JD Denning 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Anyone here have a HomeKit thermostat?ure.
> 
>> Such as the ecobee, or Honeywell or another? If so can you give me your
>> opinions on the accessibility of the app? And do you use the thermostat
>> app most or the home app?
> 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
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Re: HomeKit thermostat?

[Cameron Strife]

Hi. I'm looking at various thermostat options as ours is on it's way
out and we want something more blind friendly.

How is the Nest app in terms of ease of use with Voiceover?

We have Alexa via my echo third gen speaker but I think I'd rather go
the iOS route...




On 7/24/20, John JD Denning  wrote:
> Trouble with a nest for me is it’s not HomeKit
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 11:41, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Well, if you're a control freak, then I am, too.
>>
>> I gave up trying to use Siri with the Nest, because I found it a little
>> too quirky. So in a nutshell, the Ecobee works great with Siri, but the
>> app is far less intuitive than Nest. The one thing I can say though, is
>> when you change the temperature with Siri, the app puts it on what it
>> calls a hold. You can set the app so that the hold stays in effect until
>> you cancel it. So, if you change the temp with Siri, you can either change
>> it back with Siri, or just open the app and cancel the hold, in which case
>> it reverts back to your pre-set temperature.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:32 AM, John JD Denning 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you, that’s the kind of feedback I was hoping to get. That is the
>>> one I’ve been looking at. But really would love to know if somebody like
>>> something else better or not.
>>>
>>> I think a lot of the thought from different companies is that people will
>>> put it in automatic and let it build your routine and set the temperature
>>> automatically. I don’t do that I like to be able to tell it off on and
>>> what temperature. But maybe I’m a control freak.
>>>
>>> I have The nest right now. I’ve had it for many years is the original
>>> nest. The app has its quirks, but is very straightforward. And I’ve been
>>> using it with Siri through the Google app but that’s awkward.
>>>
>>> Again thanks.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
> On Jul 24, 2020, at 09:40, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>  wrote:

 Hi John,

 We have the Ecobee. Mostly I use that app rather than the home app, or I
 just use Siri. Ecobee has done a nice job with accessibility. My only
 criticism is, having also used the Nest app, I like the Nest app better.
 It's less layered, so easier to do things like modify the temperature. I
 think Ecobee operates on the premise that you will set regular temps and
 mostly just leave them there, which is not how I operate.
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On Jul 24, 2020, at 8:27 AM, John JD Denning 
> wrote:
>
> Anyone here have a HomeKit thermostat?ure.

> Such as the ecobee, or Honeywell or another? If so can you give me your
> opinions on the accessibility of the app? And do you use the thermostat
> app most or the home app?

>
> Thanks
>
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Re: HomeKit thermostat?

[John JD Denning]

Trouble with a nest for me is it’s not HomeKit

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2020, at 11:41, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well, if you're a control freak, then I am, too.
> 
> I gave up trying to use Siri with the Nest, because I found it a little too 
> quirky. So in a nutshell, the Ecobee works great with Siri, but the app is 
> far less intuitive than Nest. The one thing I can say though, is when you 
> change the temperature with Siri, the app puts it on what it calls a hold. 
> You can set the app so that the hold stays in effect until you cancel it. So, 
> if you change the temp with Siri, you can either change it back with Siri, or 
> just open the app and cancel the hold, in which case it reverts back to your 
> pre-set temperature.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:32 AM, John JD Denning  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you, that’s the kind of feedback I was hoping to get. That is the one 
>> I’ve been looking at. But really would love to know if somebody like 
>> something else better or not.
>> 
>> I think a lot of the thought from different companies is that people will 
>> put it in automatic and let it build your routine and set the temperature 
>> automatically. I don’t do that I like to be able to tell it off on and what 
>> temperature. But maybe I’m a control freak.
>> 
>> I have The nest right now. I’ve had it for many years is the original nest. 
>> The app has its quirks, but is very straightforward. And I’ve been using it 
>> with Siri through the Google app but that’s awkward.
>> 
>> Again thanks.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jul 24, 2020, at 09:40, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi John,
>>> 
>>> We have the Ecobee. Mostly I use that app rather than the home app, or I 
>>> just use Siri. Ecobee has done a nice job with accessibility. My only 
>>> criticism is, having also used the Nest app, I like the Nest app better. 
>>> It's less layered, so easier to do things like modify the temperature. I 
>>> think Ecobee operates on the premise that you will set regular temps and 
>>> mostly just leave them there, which is not how I operate.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On Jul 24, 2020, at 8:27 AM, John JD Denning  
 wrote:
 
 Anyone here have a HomeKit thermostat?ure.
>>> 
 Such as the ecobee, or Honeywell or another? If so can you give me your 
 opinions on the accessibility of the app? And do you use the thermostat 
 app most or the home app?
>>> 
 
 Thanks
 
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IPhone 11 whether forecast preferences Using SIRI?

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Hi List,
Is there any way to have "SIRI" on my IPhone 11 include the wind speed & chance 
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Re: HomeKit thermostat?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Well, if you're a control freak, then I am, too.

I gave up trying to use Siri with the Nest, because I found it a little too 
quirky. So in a nutshell, the Ecobee works great with Siri, but the app is far 
less intuitive than Nest. The one thing I can say though, is when you change 
the temperature with Siri, the app puts it on what it calls a hold. You can set 
the app so that the hold stays in effect until you cancel it. So, if you change 
the temp with Siri, you can either change it back with Siri, or just open the 
app and cancel the hold, in which case it reverts back to your pre-set 
temperature.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:32 AM, John JD Denning  wrote:
> 
> Thank you, that’s the kind of feedback I was hoping to get. That is the one 
> I’ve been looking at. But really would love to know if somebody like 
> something else better or not.
> 
> I think a lot of the thought from different companies is that people will put 
> it in automatic and let it build your routine and set the temperature 
> automatically. I don’t do that I like to be able to tell it off on and what 
> temperature. But maybe I’m a control freak.
> 
> I have The nest right now. I’ve had it for many years is the original nest. 
> The app has its quirks, but is very straightforward. And I’ve been using it 
> with Siri through the Google app but that’s awkward.
> 
> Again thanks.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 09:40, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> We have the Ecobee. Mostly I use that app rather than the home app, or I 
>> just use Siri. Ecobee has done a nice job with accessibility. My only 
>> criticism is, having also used the Nest app, I like the Nest app better. 
>> It's less layered, so easier to do things like modify the temperature. I 
>> think Ecobee operates on the premise that you will set regular temps and 
>> mostly just leave them there, which is not how I operate.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 8:27 AM, John JD Denning  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anyone here have a HomeKit thermostat?ure.
>> 
>>> Such as the ecobee, or Honeywell or another? If so can you give me your 
>>> opinions on the accessibility of the app? And do you use the thermostat app 
>>> most or the home app?
>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks
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Re: HomeKit thermostat?

[Pete De Vasto]

Hi Donna,

I, too, have the Nest thermostat, and yes, the app is pretty straight forward. 
Like you, I particularly like the fact that wherever I am in the house I can 
adjust the temperature as needed. My only complaint so far is that I can’t use 
the schedule feature, but have to keep adjusting the temperature for days until 
the thermostat learns what I want it to do. When you used the app, did you ever 
try working the schedule? I also do have the Google app, but haven’t looked 
into using that one with my thermostat. I’ll take any ideas or suggestions.

Thanks so much,
Pete De Vasto

> On Jul 24, 2020, at 6:40 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi John,
> 
> We have the Ecobee. Mostly I use that app rather than the home app, or I just 
> use Siri. Ecobee has done a nice job with accessibility. My only criticism 
> is, having also used the Nest app, I like the Nest app better. It's less 
> layered, so easier to do things like modify the temperature. I think Ecobee 
> operates on the premise that you will set regular temps and mostly just leave 
> them there, which is not how I operate.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 8:27 AM, John JD Denning  wrote:
>> 
>> Anyone here have a HomeKit thermostat?ure.
> 
>> Such as the ecobee, or Honeywell or another? If so can you give me your 
>> opinions on the accessibility of the app? And do you use the thermostat app 
>> most or the home app?
> 
>> 
>> Thanks
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Re: HomeKit thermostat?

[John JD Denning]

Thank you, that’s the kind of feedback I was hoping to get. That is the one 
I’ve been looking at. But really would love to know if somebody like something 
else better or not.

I think a lot of the thought from different companies is that people will put 
it in automatic and let it build your routine and set the temperature 
automatically. I don’t do that I like to be able to tell it off on and what 
temperature. But maybe I’m a control freak.

I have The nest right now. I’ve had it for many years is the original nest. The 
app has its quirks, but is very straightforward. And I’ve been using it with 
Siri through the Google app but that’s awkward.

Again thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2020, at 09:40, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> We have the Ecobee. Mostly I use that app rather than the home app, or I just 
> use Siri. Ecobee has done a nice job with accessibility. My only criticism 
> is, having also used the Nest app, I like the Nest app better. It's less 
> layered, so easier to do things like modify the temperature. I think Ecobee 
> operates on the premise that you will set regular temps and mostly just leave 
> them there, which is not how I operate.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 8:27 AM, John JD Denning  wrote:
>> 
>> Anyone here have a HomeKit thermostat?ure.
> 
>> Such as the ecobee, or Honeywell or another? If so can you give me your 
>> opinions on the accessibility of the app? And do you use the thermostat app 
>> most or the home app?
> 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
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Re: HomeKit thermostat?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi John,

We have the Ecobee. Mostly I use that app rather than the home app, or I just 
use Siri. Ecobee has done a nice job with accessibility. My only criticism is, 
having also used the Nest app, I like the Nest app better. It's less layered, 
so easier to do things like modify the temperature. I think Ecobee operates on 
the premise that you will set regular temps and mostly just leave them there, 
which is not how I operate.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Jul 24, 2020, at 8:27 AM, John JD Denning  wrote:
> 
> Anyone here have a HomeKit thermostat?ure.

> Such as the ecobee, or Honeywell or another? If so can you give me your 
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> most or the home app?

> 
> Thanks
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HomeKit thermostat?

[John JD Denning]

Anyone here have a HomeKit thermostat? Such as the ecobee, or Honeywell or 
another? If so can you give me your opinions on the accessibility of the app? 
And do you use the thermostat app most or the home app?

Thanks

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