Re: General Screen search on iOS
Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. There is a find on page feature within the share tab. Tap share, and it is almost at the very end, I think you have to tap the second more button to get to it. If it doesn't give the text field to type in your search the first time, tap the done button, which will be where the tabs or pages button usually is, then tap share again, and swipe left to the find on page area. You can drag this find on page feature to a more convenient place in the share dialogue, I really need to do that. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Jun 7, 2019, at 8:54 PM, B G wrote: Unless the feature exists already -- and has therefore hitherto escaped my notice -- a general screen search tool on iOS would come in very handy. Suppose you're in Safari and the information, e.g. a phone number, is many lines or even screens down. Rather than traversing everything before you get to it, you would perform a unique gesture, e.g. a two-finger rest i.e. tap and hold in position, followed by a thumb swipe to pull up a search dialogue box. You would enter your search text and press enter (or perform a two-finger right swipe on the onscreen Braille keypad) and voila, focus is positioned at the start of your search result! Of course, you could make the feature as fancy and elaborate as you want but its very basic function should be searching for the next occurrence of the search string, and positioning focus at start of said string. What does the list think? Any comments, criticisms, any flaws in the idea, all welcome. I'm hoping once we've hammered out something we could all agree on we will then present it to Apple as a feature request. Ben -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2ByxY95Kd9Q4bruit5gGgAu6Dkvs%3DukvNJ5O3NEfjwwTZ0WyEw%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C8E4DED4-F589-4187-BAC2-76E893214D69%40mindspring.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Potential bug in voice dream reader?
I have experienced this issue for a couple updates now, I don't remember when it started. It doesn't really matter to me, unless I am wanting to read line by line for some reason. I wrote them about it, and they said they have had it reported to them, but they can't reproduce it on any of their devices. As with the device that rattles until you take it to the shop to have it fixed and it won't rattle, they won't be able to do anything about it until they can reproduce it. I have found that the more lightly I touch the screen, the less likely it is to occur. Also, this latest update seems better than before. When they wrote back to say they can't reproduce the problem, I loaded a book that was acting really badly on this iPhone 6 onto my iPhone 5, and it worked perfectly. So, it seems to be a problem only on a few devices. Whatever. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Mar 31, 2019, at 10:16 AM, Phil Halton wrote: I have a very large file that I referenced often in voice dream reader. Voice stream reports the file at 35+ hours of reading time. I noticed that if I make the mistake of touching the text area, not the control buttons but the actual text area, then voice dream is sent off into an unresponsive state. It is as though it’s trying to do some heavy processing on the entire 35 hour long file, and is totally unresponsive. My only option is to remove the app from memory through the app switcher and start over again with a fresh copy of the app, being very careful not to touch the text area with this particular file. Anybody found this also to be true? Again, it only appears to happen with extremely large files. Sent from my IPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: likely silly apple product buy question?
The following is only my opinion. Obviously, the damage to your IPhone had absolutely nothing to do with any manufacturing fault or defect, so most manufacturers would say, "that's too bad." They wouldn't fix it under any warranty, not even Apple care. And you are saying they offered you the chance to buy Apple Care after they knew the circumstances of the damage, then fix it under Apple Care? That is the most generous warranty coverage I have ever heard of from a manufacturer. I hope you grabbed it before they came to their senses and changed their mind. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Nov 28, 2018, at 11:38 AM, tim wrote: Wish that was the case. However, my phone was dropped by a 2 yearold and broke the screen. Apple told me sense I didn’t have applecare it would cost me $100 to fix. Now sense my phone was under a year old I still could get applecare and have it fixed. Now as far as your resource there dreaming because that markup is standard practice for sales. I learned that getting my business degree. > On Nov 28, 2018, at 11:07 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > hi, > > Specifically with Apple Care, you have a point. Whereas, the one year > warranty provided by Apple is honoured no matter which authorized vender sold > the Apple product. While the mark-up you state is normal in the retail > business, my sources tell me that the retailer is not marking up the Apple > hardware to that degree. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Nov 28, 2018, at 08:46, tim wrote: > > Wish that it is true about Apple and there warranties. > If the store sells it with applecare. Then Apple will fix it and if not then > you will have to get applecare on your own. > I know this from getting my iPhone 8 from T-mobile. They only gave a not > working out of box return if phone was fisically broke. > I had to get applecare myself. > Now as far as the big drop in discounts they still make a profit because the > markup is around 3 to 500% for sales. > Never think a store loses money with discounts. > Just because a product states a sale only means it is for sale. The discount > is still just a mine game. >> On Nov 20, 2018, at 10:35 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Depends. Apple products tend to have a very small markup. That's not to >> say that Apple doesn't make bags of money from there hardware, just that >> other retailers don't make a huge profit either. That being said, third >> party venders like BestBuy and such will often put Apple products on sale at >> a bit of a loss because they wish to get rid of product. They make enough >> money off of other things and sell the occasional warranty package that >> really makes them cash. So, yes, you're correct that you'll often see some >> pretty good sales during this time of the year on Apple products mostly from >> folks other than Apple themselves. >> >> Later... >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Apple Teacher >> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On Nov 20, 2018, at 17:13, Karen Lewellen wrote: >> >> Perfect sense, thank you! >> My guess is that often other stores have better prices yes? >> Kare >> >> >> >>> On Tue, 20 Nov 2018, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> You should still be able to get support from Apple. It is an Apple >>> purchase, albeit from another vender, but the warranty, support and such is >>> still by Apple. It is usually your serial number that determines whether >>> warranty or support is available, not the vender from which you purchased >>> the device. >>> >>> Hope that makes sense. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Apple Teacher >>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> On Nov 20, 2018, at 16:53, Karen Lewellen wrote: >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> First of two threads that I am keeping separate. >>> Because of issues I am encountering, especially at places like Paypal, I am >>> considering getting an Apple device. With the major sales coming up in the >>> next few days, I want some direction before i start hunting. >>> Getting the silly question out of the way first, if I buy an apple product >>> somewhere other than an Apple store, can I still
Re: Hoping someone can check a web page with VoiceOver
If it would be of value to you, the material within that link is very accessible on my old iPhone 6, running IOS 12.0.1. I find it very discouraging that I can do things on my telephone that people have problems doing on their macs. I bought that Mac Mini a little over two years ago, but haven't gott, all that far with it, for this very reason, I can do so much of what I need to do with this telephone. Maybe some day, Apple will admit that their future really is with IOS. My pc is so old that it wouldn't be a fair test to test your link with it,so I can't comment about how well it would work with a modern version of jaws. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Oct 30, 2018, at 1:26 PM, Brett Campbell wrote: Hello Mac visionaries, If someone has a moment to spare, I’m asking you to check out a web page with VoiceOver. This page is the locations and hours for the Salt Lake Community college Disability Resource Center. There are 3 tabs, Taylorsville Redwood Campus, South City Campus and Jordan Campus. I’m told that visually selecting a tab shows the info for the campus. I can’t read anything with VoiceOver after selecting a tab. I’m wondering if the info isn’t seen by VoiceOver or is there a setting or command I’m not aware of to read the text. The link follows. http://www.slcc.edu/drc/locations-and-hours.aspx -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Fall detection
Please confirm the following from another source, but I think you have to fall and stay down for a minute or so, without making an attempt to get up, before it calls 911. I do not have an Apple watch, but if I did, I may, or may not, leave this feature turned on. I think it is a great idea, though. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Oct 15, 2018, at 2:07 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: Yeah I was wondering this one myself, I’ve got a bad habit of tripping over things, So I’d need to switch this off. But hay I’ve not yet got my S4 watch so nothing I need to worry about yet. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Angus MacKinnon Sent: Sunday, 14 October 2018 12:36 PM To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Fall detection Kawal Fall Detection is off by default unless you are 65 years or older. I would encourage turning on Fall Detection. Fall Detection is very good at Detecting False Alarms and gives a person a minute or so to raise from a Fall. Angus MacKinnon, Personalism Student Hands Off Our Harness http://www.hooh.ca Charles Péguy said, “The revolution is moral or not at all” -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: apple earpods firmware
I updated my iPhone 6 to IOS 12 last Sunday. My air pods sound about the same, my Beats X headphones sound better. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Oct 5, 2018, at 8:48 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote: Arnold, Thanks I thought something lik ehtat but havne't been able to confirm it. Have you updated to IOS 12 on your phone or devices and if so have you noticed any changes in your earpods working -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Friday, 5 October 2018 6:35 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: apple earpods firmware When there is an update for them, it is first downloaded to your phone automatically. Then, when you are using your airpods, it is pushed to them. That is the way I understand it, hopefully somebody will correct me if I am wrong. I think mine have been updated three times since I got them in December, 2017. You can find out what version is currently running, I think, in settings, general, about, if not, in the section about them under bluetooth. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Oct 4, 2018, at 5:45 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: Hi List, I am pretty sure I'm part of an iPhone list which I can' t remember the address of, I think I'm losing my mind right now. Anyway I've just updated my iPhone to a later os version and and just wondering how I can make sure my earpods are up to date with firmware for them. Can anyone advise me of how earpod firmware updates happens. Thanks for any help here. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: apple earpods firmware
When there is an update for them, it is first downloaded to your phone automatically. Then, when you are using your airpods, it is pushed to them. That is the way I understand it, hopefully somebody will correct me if I am wrong. I think mine have been updated three times since I got them in December, 2017. You can find out what version is currently running, I think, in settings, general, about, if not, in the section about them under bluetooth. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Oct 4, 2018, at 5:45 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: Hi List, I am pretty sure I'm part of an iPhone list which I can' t remember the address of, I think I'm losing my mind right now. Anyway I've just updated my iPhone to a later os version and and just wondering how I can make sure my earpods are up to date with firmware for them. Can anyone advise me of how earpod firmware updates happens. Thanks for any help here. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Hi List, I am pretty sure I'm part of an iPhone list which I can' t remember the address of, I think I'm losing my mind right now. Anyway I've just updated my iPhone to a later os version and and just wondering how I can make sure my earpods are up to date with firmware for them. Can anyone advise me of how earpod firmware updates happens. Thanks for any help here. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iTunes 12.9, Broken On Mac, Too?
They are saying that, at least with jaws, the column browser doesn't work, plus some other problems. Other users say they have no problem with it, so who knows. My old pc is way too old to run a modern version of iTunes, and my Mac Mini is not going to be able to run Mojave, so I guess I don't have to worry. I was just curious. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Sep 16, 2018, at 3:07 PM, matthew dyer wrote: Hi, Using here on my mac and not seeing any problems. What seems to be the problem with itunes on the mac. Matthew -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 4:03 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: iTunes 12.9, Broken On Mac, Too? There is discussion on the VIPhone and other lists, that iTunes 12.9 for pc has serious accessibility issues. How is it for the Mac? Thanks for any opinions. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fmacvisionaries%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7 -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iTunes 12.9, Broken On Mac, Too?
On the VIPhone list, they say 12.9. They are discussing iTunes for pc, so perhaps the numbers are different. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Sep 16, 2018, at 11:42 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote: Yu mean 12.8 which was just updated recently. No issues here on the Mac. >From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? > On 9/16/2018 1:02 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: > There is discussion on the VIPhone and other lists, that iTunes 12.9 for pc > has serious accessibility issues. How is it for the Mac? Thanks for any > opinions. > Arnold Schmidt > Sent from Arnold's iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
iTunes 12.9, Broken On Mac, Too?
There is discussion on the VIPhone and other lists, that iTunes 12.9 for pc has serious accessibility issues. How is it for the Mac? Thanks for any opinions. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Comparing Itunes for Windows, and Mac
The latest version of ITunes my vista pc will run is 12.1.3, so I have no experience with a modern version of ITunes for windows. I know that after 12.2, it became almost useless, for those using a screen reader, except for backing up a device. But I understand that the latest version of ITunes for Windows is almost as good as was version 11. So how does the experience of using ITunes for windows now compare with using it on a mac? I understand that using it on a mac has mostly been, a better experience. Thanks for any opinions, especially from those who can use both. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Once and for all, is there a darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain?
I have always been curious: Is this strictly a VoiceOver issue, or would a sighted person also have problems using Safari on these sights? Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Jun 11, 2018, at 8:58 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, This is caused usually by sites that have a lot of content and complicated coding. Sometimes, I just cmd-tab out of Safari, then do something for a few seconds, then cmd-tab back into Safari and things are better. Other times, I toggle VO off, wait a few seconds then turn it back on. Other times, I press tab to start bringing focus into the web area and it just continues to buffer but I can still get places in the web area. Overall, it kind of depends on the amount of memory and processing power that your Mac has along with how good the web-site coding is. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada > On Jun 11, 2018, at 18:22, Jessica Moss wrote: > > I’d really love to know that too, for the exact same reason. I had this same > issue several times, one of them being during a critical time today when I > was trying to navigate the myflorida site, which I not only dispise, had > verry little time to do it in, and had to get Hannah’s medicaid form filled > out for renewal whether I wanted to do it or not, which takes what seems like > forever and the staff at DCF act like they’re less than thrilled to help. > On Jun 11, 2018, at 8:42 AM, Christine Grassman > wrote: > > Ugh! It’s infuriating, especially when I am working on something significant. > Christine > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the
Re: Apple Pay and Touch ID
I never knew I had to double press the home button first. I just hold my phone near the reader with my finger on the home button, and it goes through, except for one time, I don't know what was wrong then. I will try double pressing the home button first next time, to see if it works even better. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Mar 3, 2018, at 9:49 AM, Alex Hall wrote: In general, the process is simply: * from the lock screen or notifications center, press the home button twice * your default card will be selected, but you can choose a different card if you have one * hold the phone near the reader * touch the home button to authenticate, or do what I do and just leave your finger there while holding the phone to the reader * after a moment, the phone vibrates and chimes, and you're done Really, stepping through it like that makes it sound longer and harder than it is. Double press the home button, hold the phone to the reader, and rest a finger on the home button for Touch ID. The only way it gets easier is if you're using an Apple Watch. I hope this explains things some, and your next attempt goes more smoothly. -- Alex Hall > On Mar 3, 2018, at 00:34, E.T. wrote: > > Mark, > I did not get that far. What I ran into was, simply put, not knowing yet > how to make the transaction. And I did not have the luxury of keeping the > checker waiting. > > I expected to use Touch ID but was prompted for the passcode. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > Many believe that we have been visited > in the past. What if it were true? > >> On 3/2/2018 9:07 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >> Hello E.T., >> Your question is too broad in order to elicit a meaningful anser. >> However, I can tell you that today, both a friend and I were unsuccessful in >> getting Apple Pay to work at three different terminals at three different >> businesses, on each of our phones. I have an 8 Plus and she has a 7 Plus. >> We surmised that the system was down or working very slowly. This was the >> first time, since Apple Pay was introduced, that I was not able to complete >> a transaction, successfully. >> I called another friend of mine, who lives a couple of states away, and he, >> too, was unsuccessful in completing a terminal-based Apple Pay transaction. >> So, I suggest that you wait a few days and give it another try, say, >> sometime after Monday. >> Just so you know, a few minutes ago, I did successfully reload my Starbucks >> card, via Apple Pay. Keep in mind that doing so did not require a physical >> terminal, as did my previous attempts, earlier today. >> Mark >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. >> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 5:24 PM >> To: MacVisionaries >> Subject: Apple Pay and Touch ID >> With my 8+ I gave this a try today did not succeed. What settings, and >> easiest procedures works here? Thanks. >> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >> Many believe that we have been visited >> in the past. What if it were true? >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark T
Re: An F.Y.I. Regarding Apple Music Radio
Not only is it not possible, it hasn't been possible since Apple music got its upgrade sometime in IOS 10. When I investiqated it, I was told that "they were working on it", but they have had probably a year now to fix it. They must be able to use the fact that people have all these custom stations in their Apple music radios to make themselves look good in some kind of advertising scheme, or something, otherwise, why can't we delete them? I was told that if a given station was not accessed within 90 days, it would delete. I'll see. The old stations I had created before the upgrade are still there. I enjoy Apple radio, but I'm careful about creating stations. Arnold Schmidt , Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Feb 22, 2018, at 8:02 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, In anticipation of an Apple Music subscription, I borrowed a friend's phone and explored the service for a few hours. I discovered that, unlike the now defunct, free, iTunes Radio service of yore, I was unable to delete custom Apple Music radio stations. I contacted Apple Support, via Twitter and received a confirmation message that, at present, it is not possible to delete custom radio stations from Apple Music. Just thought you might want to know. Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: IOS 11.1 and Mail
I was given access to version 11.0.1 via software update on Tuesday. That is what I am running now, and I definitely am not a developer, not even a beta tester. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Sep 28, 2017, at 2:00 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: Yes but only for developers not for public beta or production. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2017 1:31 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 11.1 and Mail No. We need to be careful how we enter information. Version 11 dot 0 dot 1 is now available. Not 11 dot 1. >From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com > On 9/27/2017 3:38 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Matt: > > Thanks all over the place. > > *From:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Matthew > Dierckens > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2017 7:17 PM > *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: IOS 11.1 and Mail > > The 11.1 update is only available for developers > > God bless. > Matt Dierckens, > > Certified assistive technology specialist Macintosh, iOS, and windows > Trainor Canadian phone: 519-962-9140 > > US phone: 573-401-1018 -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: IOS 11.1 and Mail
It is still the same on my iPhone 6, running 11.0.1. I have almost gotten use to it by now, it has been a while since I have deleted a message or thread that I didn't want to delete. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Sep 27, 2017, at 2:50 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote: For those of you who were bothered by the delete action staying the selected item after you deleted a mail message, this has been altered with the IOS 11.1 update that came out today. It is now back to the usual and expected behaviour of switching the action to activate—it is now safe to tap the next message to open it without fear of accidentally deleting it. Jeff -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Turning Speaking on
A three-finger double tap will turn it back on. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Sep 14, 2017, at 2:14 AM, Angus MacKinnon wrote: When I took my iPhone 5S running IOS 10.32, I heard Speech off. Siri works , however nothing elze speaks. How do I turn Speech on? Can I turn speech on Wirelessly? Or do I need to plug in the iPhone? Thank you. Angus MacKinnon -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Latest VoiceDream Reader
I just tried it, using Alex, then Heather, and had no problems. I was able to change it both while reading, and while stopped. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Jun 20, 2017, at 4:57 PM, Phil Halton wrote: I was on able to reproduce the bug. I am using the James voice. Sent from my IPhone > On Jun 20, 2017, at 4:54 PM, Robert Carter wrote: > > Hi, > > For me, the ability to adjust audio speed is broken in the June 19th update > to VoiceDream Reader. If I start an audio file playing and attempt to change > the speed, the app crashes. I reported this to the developer but am wondering > whether others can reproduce this? If not, I will delete an reinstall but > don’t really want to do that if it is a bug that everybody is experiencing. > > Thanks, > > Robert Carter > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: brf files
Unfortunately, the BARD app won't read BRF files via VoiceOver only with a braille display, and then, I think, only BARD BRF files. A few years ago, there was an app in the app store that would read BRF files. I don't remember what it was called, and I don't think it is there any more. I never tried it, but I got the impression from reading posts about it that it didn't work very well, and did not stay around very long. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Jun 20, 2017, at 5:40 PM, E.T. wrote: A couple possibilities which I have not tried. The Bard Mobile app or AccessNote. >From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com > On 6/20/2017 2:15 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote: > Hi all, > What is the best app for reading brf files on the iPhone? > Can I put these files into dropbox and load them into an app? > > Peace, > Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. > > mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net > -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: new mac user
In addition to the very good suggestions you have received, there is a book, written by Janet Ingber, and published by National Braille Press, called Mac Basics For The Beginning User. I think that when somebody is in the very beginning of learning how to do something, they need to have some type of organized fashion of learning it, rather than just picking it up in bits and pieces. At least, it is that way for me, others learn in different ways. I am going to paste the link to this book below, in case it might be of use to you. http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/MAC-BASICS.html Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On May 8, 2017, at 3:07 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: Hello, Can you use Safari browser on your new mac? If you can, there are lots of good web pages and websites that will help you learn. There's Apple's own accessibility section. I'm pasting below a link to VoiceOver on the mac section of Apple's website. If you click on it by first interacting with the text of this message pressing vo+shift+down arrow and then pressing vo+spacebar on the link, safari will open and you will find yourself on the relevant page. I assume you know that vo stands for control and option keys on your keyboard held down together while you press other keys. the link to Apple pages is here: https://www.apple.com/accessibility/mac/vision/ There's also a very good website called applevis which you can visit where you will find guides and tutorials as well as discussions on various aspects of voiceover use. The link is below here: www.applevis.com Also, VoiceOver application on your mac (often referred to as VoiceOver utility), which you open with the shortcut key vo+f8, will launch it and each section has a help file related to it where you can read and learn an awful lot about VoiceOver and its functions. Also, RNIB runs a volunteer programme through which you might be able to find a volunteer who might help you learn. Contact RNIB and ask for accessible technology team and discuss your needs with them. Good luck Andrew > On 8 May 2017, at 07:41, masood B wrote: > > hello I'm a blind person and I just bought a mac book pro I have a lot of > problems to use the mac. is there some one to teach me hot to use the mac > please? also I would like to let you know that I'm not working and can't > effort pait traing. thanks > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
Re: AirPods firmware 3.5.1 released
The information about the firmware is in gengal, about. The air pods must be in one's ears for the air pods button to show up, it is after all the information about the connected IPhone. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Feb 3, 2017, at 4:09 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: Hi David, Yeah the earpods screen comes up when you open the case But even then I'm only getting the charge level for the case and each pod no other info is showing at least not that I've yet found. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden Sent: Friday, 3 February 2017 12:33 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: AirPods firmware 3.5.1 released The case needs to be open and the airpods need to be connected to the iPhone. However, it is not necessary to actually have an airpod in one's ear. Go to settings, general, about, and one will find an airpods button near the bottom of the screen. Double-tap on this and the desired information screen will appear. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 2/02/2017, at 22:21, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > Not doubting what you've given us here but I can not find the about Earpods > I've unpaired and re paired the pods and still no location of the about my > earpods shows anywherere in my phone > > I'm running IOS 10.3 Beta > And everytime I open the charging case it only gives me the charge level of > the case and each of the pods.any toughts appreciated. > > Cheers, > > -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Audible and the NLS player
Unfortunately, NLS players cannot play Audible books. The Victor Reader Stream can play them if it is authorized to do so by the Audible Book Manager. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Jan 16, 2017, at 2:53 PM, N2KPV wrote: Hi Everyone , I was thinking of signing up with audible .com and was wondering if the books can be downloaded to a thumb drive and played on the NLS player . Does anyone use audible and are you satisfied with it? I am aware that you can listen to the books on your iDevices . Thanks in advance , Ben C. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Braille screen input
I sincerely hope you come up with a better solution for this problem than I did about a month ago when, first MBraille, then Apple Braille Screen input exhibited the symptoms you describe for no apparent reason. I ended up using the reset all settings to fix it, and it hasn't gone wrong since. Warning! If you have to go this route, you will have to get sighted help to turn VoiceOver back on. The triple click home button won't do it, and serie is turned off, so it can't turn it on, either. But reset all settings will fix it. I hope you find a less drastic fix. If it is like mine was, and it sounds like it, you are not the problem, something has gotten bungled up in the settings for braille screen input. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Dec 14, 2016, at 7:07 AM, David Chittenden wrote: When you calibrate, you place the centre of each dot under your fingertip at that point. The dot stays there. Since you are then unable to find all the dots, your fingers are drifting across the display. On the iPhone, I braille in away mode with the screen facing away from me. My thumbs hold the top edge (left edge of the phone), and my pinkys hold the bottom edge (right edge of the phone). My thumbs and pinkys keep my brailling fingers roughly in the same positions on the display. I only use table-top mode when using the iPad.I do not need to worry about fingers going outside the outer edge of the display. I keep my fingers aligned on the iPad by holding my thumbs against the bottom of the iPad. Please note: In both cases, I use fingers and-or thumbs to keep myself roughly aligned. As for calibration, the left side dots should land between 1/4 and 1/2 of a second after the right fingers. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 15/12/2016, at 00:38, Sandra E. Finley wrote: > > David, what do you regard to be the proper timing? Also, when you calibrate > the dots, do you put your fingers in a v shape or in a horizontal line > across the screen question when I first calibrate I seem to have all six dots > available. However, when I start to write words then the dots six seems to > not be there no matter where I move my finger. I really don't know what I'm > doing wrong at 8:18 PM, David Chittenden wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I continue using braille screen input, on a daily basis, without any >> difficulties. I use it for all of my office work. Perhaps you are not >> performing the dot alignment command with the proper timing between the >> right and the left hands. >> >> -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Please Confirm a VoiceOver Bug in Native iOS 10 Mail App Regarding Threaded View
I can confirm your findings, but I don't know that I would consider it to be a bug. When you expand the thread, it is as it was in the old mail app. It always put the newest message first. In the new app, when I want to read a thread, I don't expand it first. I tap the collapsed thread, it opens, usually, with the oldest message at the top. I do a two-finger swipe down to read it, and when it finishes reading that message, I do a one-finger swipe down, it goes to the next message and reads it. The only time I expand a thread is when I want to delete an individual message, as opposed to deleting the entire thread, which, unfortunately, seems to be the only deleting method from within the thread. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Sep 17, 2016, at 5:21 AM, Helga Schreiber wrote: hi Mark. Guess I am having the same problem you're having is :-) Helga Schreiber Group Moderator for the IPad help for the blind ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students. Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. Phone: (561) 706-5950 Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com Skype: helga.schreiber26 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx INT Website: http://int4life.com/ "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 10 > On Sep 17, 2016, at 4:40 AM, David Chittenden wrote: > > This is the behaviour in MacMail, if I am understanding you correctly. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 17/09/2016, at 20:06, Robert Hill wrote: >> >> Hi Mark, >> >> Yes, I can confirm this bug. >> I had posted to the v-phone list with this issue earlier this week. >> >> A work-around I found is to double tap on the thread to open it, not go to >> the actions and expand the thread. >> When I double tap to open the thread, then when I flick down with one >> finger, the oldest message in the thread is at the top as I would expect. >> Then what I do is go through the actions, find the message item, then I can >> flick down through the messages, and read them by double tapping them,. >> >> Bob Hill >> >>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 3:36 AM, M. Taylor wrote: >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> There have been so many posts sent lately that I have lost track so please >>> indulge me in asking for confirmation of a very annoying bug in the native >>> iOS 10 Mail app, regarding the threaded view. >>> >>> Here are my major settings for Mail. >>> >>> Preview, None. >>> Organize by Thread, On. >>> Most Recent Message on Top, Off. >>> Complete Thread, Off. >>> >>> Here are the steps I take to read threads: >>> >>> 1. >>> Open the Mail app. >>> >>> 2. >>> Place focus on a collapsed thread. >>> >>> 3. >>> Select Expand Thread via the VoiceOver Rotor. At this point, the thread >>> expands downward. >>> >>> 4. >>> Now, I single-finger swipe to the right in order to move to the first >>> message listed below the subject line of the thread and, as is expected, the >>> text of the message is read, out by VoiceOver. >>> >>> The problem is that, regardless of the status of the, "Most Recent Message >>> on Top", toggle, the first message just below the thread's subject line is >>> always the most recent post to the thread. As a consequence, if I want to >>> read the original post to a thread, I have to swipe all the way down to the >>> bottom of the list area and reverse swipe back up. >>> >>> Does this make sense and are any of you encountering this issue? >>> >>> Again, thank you for your indulgence on this. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >>> Quinn - you
Re: amazon's accesability contact.
I know nothing about how accessible it is, I am just passing along what I found. In Windows, one needs the Amazon mp3 downloader to download these files. I googled to find out if there is such a thing for the mac, and apparently there is. Google Amazon mp3 downloader for mac, and if it finds something, install it and see if you can use it. Being so new to the mac, I definitely would not be the one to test this mp3 downloader. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Aug 16, 2016, at 7:19 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi folks, I am asking here because I believe someone before shared their name and e-mail. I am beyond dismayed that I cannot download the mp3 items, three files, that I have purchased. Amazon seems to be force feeding their library program, which I am told by a supervisor should not be the case. Given all the spam coming from their direction of late, I am likely going to have to get someone else to log in and get my files as I require them under deadline. Still I want to raise the issue with accessibility, because the access page is worse than the rest oft he site. ideas? Kare -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Searching the yelp app for a location other than your current one
Just guessing here, I do not have that app on my iPhone. But do you have location services turned on for it? If so, turn them off, and see if it then will give you a field to enter a location. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Jul 23, 2016, at 2:40 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I have the latest version of the yelp app on my iPhone. I have been trying to figure out a way to search for restaurants in a town other than the one where I am currently located. There is a locations under settings. But there's no way to add a location. And there doesn't seem to be a way to change what comes up in the search, which always wants to search where you are currently. What am I missing? Mary Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Transferring from External Hard Drive Question
If I have some data on an external hard drive that was copied to that drive from a windows computer, can I connect it to my mac mini and transfer that data? I know windows and mac use different hard drive formats. Thanks for any information. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Audible Books To My Victor Reader, was Re: Audible members: I just found a piece of gold!
I have googled this, but I may as well ask here, too. In Windows, there is an Audible book manager. When I download a book to it, I transfer the book to my Victor Reader via this book manager, after having authorized my player, or the card, I am not quite sure which. If it isn't authorized as a player, it won't play the book. I gather that there is no audible manager for the mac, it downloads directly into iTunes. So, being that there is no audible manager to authorize the player or card, I would not be able to transfer a book to my Victor Reader with the mac? If not, that is too bad. There is one of these remove the drm apps for windows, too, but I have never felt any need to use it. I admit that I usually use my iPhone to play audible books, until they mess up the app again, but I just like using my victor reader sometimes. It is too bad if I will have to continue to use this pc to transfer audible books to my victor reader, if I can't do it from the mac. Thanks for any information. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Christopher-Mark Gilland To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 8:39 AM Subject: Audible members: I just found a piece of gold! Have you ever been like me, wishing that you could strip the DRM out of your... ahim, legally? LOL! purchased Audible books, and convert them to an mp3? Well, for $35, now, you can. And may I add, this app is totally 100% accessible. Basically, what it does is, it goes through your ITunes library and finds all audio books, be it Audible, or purchased directly from ITunes. It then gives you a table, which by the way, you can do a keyword search if you have a lot, you select your books, hit convert, and presto! This thing supports Flac, Wave, mp3, M4A, and I think maybe 1 or two others for the output formats. It's gorgeous! I've been converting all my books to losless flac, so that I could then play them through my Sonos wireless speaker set, as those things support Flac. Trust me. It is beautiful! So, the name of the app is Tunekit Audio Book Converter. You can learn more about it from http://www.tunekit.com They also have an M4V converter, but I've not tried it. The book converter does have a trial. It lets you convert the first 3 minutes of any book of your hcoice. After that, you have to register. It's very very very worth it though. Their download page is at: http://www.tunekit.com/download and the direct link to the Book Converter DMG is: http://www.tuneskit.com/download/AudiobookConvertforMac.dmg They have a Windows version, but I have no clue of its accessibility, so buyer, beware. Chris. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Two First Generation Track Pad Questions
It will be interesting to see which one of the following my track pad ends up being. You say that a set of batteries lasts for months. I also have read that probably the most negative thing about the first generation track pad was, they can go through a set in less than a week. I hope mine is the former. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Tim Kilburn To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 3:31 PM Subject: Re: Two First Generation Track Pad Questions Hi, If the MacMini was purchased with the Trackpad straight from Apple, it is usually already paired for you. If not, upon startup, it should ask to pair. Yes, the button is a power button. Usually, I hold it in for about two seconds to power it up. There's no real need to power it down as it simply goes to sleep to conserve battery power when not in use. Mine lasts for months without shutting it off. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jul 17, 2016, at 13:22, Arnold Schmidt wrote: When I set up my newly arrived Mac Mini, how do I pair my first generation track pad with it, being that it doesn't have a way to connect it via cable to pair it? Also, is the button on the opposite side from where the batteries insert an on off button, or does it just lock the track pad? If the latter, is there no way to turn it off so it won't continue to consume battery? Thanks in advance for any information. Arnold Schmidt -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Two First Generation Track Pad Questions
When I set up my newly arrived Mac Mini, how do I pair my first generation track pad with it, being that it doesn't have a way to connect it via cable to pair it? Also, is the button on the opposite side from where the batteries insert an on off button, or does it just lock the track pad? If the latter, is there no way to turn it off so it won't continue to consume battery? Thanks in advance for any information. Arnold Schmidt -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: mac book pro, mac book air, or iPad pro?
I looked and looked on that refurbished list for a Mac Mini before I bought the new one, which I took back. There never were any. I wonder if the one I took back will now appear on that list, now that I have ordered the used one? I don't think I will look, I don't need to know. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: "Scott Granados" To: Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 8:31 PM Subject: Re: mac book pro, mac book air, or iPad pro? Hi andy, that’s a pretty good price. I hope you enjoy it. Just to add though, I don’t think it’s the new OS freaking people out, I think it’s the people upgrading that provides a lot of the older supply. I sell my gear myself but a lot of people trade in for credit towards a new model. Apple especially has a lot of us trained to upgrade every year so every year I go through new laptops and phones especially. There’s a 2016 refresh going on now, the Airs were one of the first I believe to receive the new chipsets and upgrades so likely a lot of the models available are last years in exchange for this years latest and greatest. Being a sharp shopper I think you’re making a good move getting a lot for your money by buying the previous version. I hope you have a good time with your training. On Jul 9, 2016, at 3:42 PM, Andy wrote: Hi Max and all. Sorry for butting in with my pennies worth. I purchased the 27 Retina desk-top about five weeks ago and in order to undergo training, I have decided to also buy a Macbook Air. This means I can carry it easily to my training event and also take it out for a couple of beers and play with it. However, I'm not buying a new machine. I'm buying a refurnished model from the Apple Store in Glasgow. I've already been told that they can give me a 13 inch, 2015 model for £625.00. A brand new Macbook Air is £800.00. When I asked as to why they would have so many almost new computers for sale, I was told that loads of buyers freek out at the new OS and return it within 14 days. So for a saving of £175.00 I'd be getting an almost new computer. I thought it was worth considering this option. Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries" To: Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 7:28 PM Subject: Re: mac book pro, mac book air, or iPad pro? Hi Tim; I appreciate the feedback. i wonder how much cheaper the air would be. Thanks, Max On Jul 9, 2016, at 1:14 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi Max, Apple seems to be focusing on the Cloud and keeping their devices slim and fairly free of, what they might consider, extraneous ports. So, I don't believe that SD slots or some such expansion will be on their radar. I'm not an insider, nor do I have any more insight than most others, it just seems to be the trend historically with Apple products. Who's to say that someone may not develop reliable, quick and portable storage solutions that will work with WiFi, Bluetooth or Lightning technology accessible from your iDevice. Regarding the MacBook Pro or Air, both will do what you're hoping, although the Air would be less expensive. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jul 9, 2016, at 10:21, 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hi Tim; My main concerns are video conferencing and managing my websites. So, I think it has to be mac book air or pro. I actually miss my 12 inch ibook 4 because like you say what blind person needs a big screen. I would probably go with the 13 because of the sd slot. question, do you think this means future versions of the iPhone may also offer additional storage? i know now we can move info between devices using the cloud, but having that option would be nice. thanks, max On Jul 9, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, Actually, if purchasing new, you won't find a MacBook Pro with built-in DVD drive anymore. When it comes to a decision between the Pro or the Air, you need to look at what you want from your computer and how much you're willing to spend. the Pros have better processors, better displays, usually can accept more RAM and are simply meant for more powerful work. Of course, with all this, comes a higher ticket price, and, why does a blind user require a better display? the Air is a good machine, meant more for the everyday user. It can still do most things that most people would be doing, and actually do it well if you don't take the least expensive model. The iPad Pro is a very nice machine, and iOS is likely the way things are moving towards in the future, but it will be a while before they become one. You can do most everything on an iOS device excepting enterprise tasks, so that's an option as well. the keyboard access with VO on an iDevice is there, but no where near what can be done on a laptop or Desktop unit. So, if you're preferring th
Re: Opinions On This Used Mac Mini
I did order it, and it allegedly will be here in the next couple weeks, if not before. The things in the following message are way beyond me at the moment. I will probably upgrade the memory first, then put in a 1 tb hard drive when the 500 gig one gets full, or quits. Keep in mind that this vista computer, from 2008, still has about 180 gig free on its 500 gig hard drive. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Scott Granados To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 8:17 PM Subject: Re: Opinions On This Used Mac Mini Arnold, this sounds like a screening deal. I’d go for it, excellent choice. You should swap out that drive though, you’ll have a Mac that performs much more like a later model and you’ll be happier. If money is really tight you could do something like a 128 GB SSD for $100 or so maybe even less by now and then just put your near line data on an older style rotating model with your high demand stuff and program files on the SSD. In fact, not to throw to much at you but you could just by a case for $25 or so, pull that 500GB drive, slap it in the case, insert a smaller sized or larger depending on funds SSD in the Mini and connect the 500 as a removable. Or I believe there’s a second bay if you want to have both internal. Sounds like a good deal though. Put 32GB of memory in there and you’ve got a powerhouse that will last you a good long time as well as make it fun to learn on for small dollars. On Jul 7, 2016, at 12:51 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: It is from 2011. It has an i5, I think 2.5 gig, processor, but only 4 gig of ram. It has a 500 gig hard drive, which is plenty for me. They want about $430 for this computer. Thanks for any opinions. Arnold Schmidt Arnold Schmidt -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Windows For An Hour A Day, was Re: For new, or majorly struggling Mac users: Please read
Your original message brings up an interesting point, in that you said you might spend half hour, , to an hour in windows. Being that I have now ordered my Mac mini, I am not going back this time, what type things simply work better in windows than on the mac? Oftentimes, it is that the user simply does not know how to do something well when they say something doesn't work as well, so I am more interested in the answer from the more experienced users. I know, for example, that Openbook will not be available to me on the Mac, I don't know how well DocuScan, from System Access works, and it sounds as if scanning and reading, by importing everything into a word processing app is about more trouble than it is worth. No problem, I will use KNFB reader on my iPhone. But what else does windows do better? Thanks for any opinions. Arnold Schmidt -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Opinions On This Used Mac Mini
When you say closed unit, does that mean that one has to take it to the Apple store for repairs, or is it closed even to them? I would hate to know I would have to throw the whole thing away just because a memory chip went bad. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: "Simon Fogarty" To: Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 10:21 PM Subject: RE: Opinions On This Used Mac Mini Enewest mac minis, I don't believe so. They have now made the mac mini a closed unit, I gave it a good go getting the base off one in a store near my home and couldn't move it although the store wasn't happy I tried but it was pretty closed up. It appears they now want to make it a no go with personal updates of devices, as in you can't update the mac book pros like you use to be able to, or the mac mini like you could before, Imac can still be done ' The 27 inch has a plate at the back that you can open to take out the ram And if your really keen, you can take the screan off the 21 or 27inch models to remove or change the harddrive. I did this myself with a 21 inch 2007 imac and I wont do that again in a hurry, they are an absolute pig of a system to get into. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Saqib Hussain Sent: Saturday, 9 July 2016 12:03 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Opinions On This Used Mac Mini Hi. Can you upgrade the RAM on the latest Mac Mini? I would be interested in doing this but I think Apple prefer we didn’t go to a local retailer for RAM upgrades. On 7 Jul 2016, at 18:20, Portia Scott wrote: Also, if you know a good computer store, or you know how to yourself, you can upgrade the ram, I believe up to 16 GB. At least, mine can be upgraded that much, yours may be only 8 GB. Still, that is decent. Portia. On 7/7/16, Portia Scott wrote: Hey Arnold, That is the exact model I got, but it is from 2012. I honestly think it would be a great buy, as I've read the reviews on it. Portia. On 7/7/16, Arnold Schmidt wrote: It is from 2011. It has an i5, I think 2.5 gig, processor, but only 4 gig of ram. It has a 500 gig hard drive, which is plenty for me. They want about $430 for this computer. Thanks for any opinions. Arnold Schmidt Arnold Schmidt -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" gr
Re: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back
I have been thinking about this for several days. As one coming from Windows, having used windows since I got my windows 98 computer in 2000, learning to use the mac is like learning a whole new language. I know what I want to do, but how to do it is almost totally different. Hey, control c copies something and control v pastes it, they have that in common. But I have come up with the best reason yet for me to get some used equipment and learn to do it. Even if I come to the conclusion that there really isn't a whole lot I can do, in all caps, BETTER on the mac than in windows, I learned to do it, and will be able to speak? mac as well as windows. That is a pretty good reason to do it. I admit, I probably wouldn't bother if I didn't have my iPhone, which apparently works a little better in Mac iTunes, than in windows iTunes. We'll see, eventually. Now, if I just didn't have to work 40 hours a week, becoming proficient in mac would happen sooner. This was one of my vacation weeks. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: "Kimber Gardner" To: Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 7:21 AM Subject: Re: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back I'm not Arnold so can't presume to answer for him, but I found myself in a similar situation several years ago when I bought a MacAir. Despite multiple attempts to learn the new operating system, I found myself frustrated at nearly every turn. Now I've been an IT professional for thirty years, working all that time in the windows environment, still I found the learning curve extremely daunting. I've read this thread with great interest and I think the many comments about total immersion while learning may have been the root of my own failure with the Mac. Because I became frustrated in my attempts to accomplish the simplest of tasks (like reading and answering email), I frequently switched back to windows to do what I needed to do. Consequently I lost whatever ground I had gained in the Mac universe. This is my rather long way of saying that while installing bootcamp on a Mac may seem like no big deal to you (or anyone who is comfortable with the Mac), for me that task seems like a mountain the size of Everest. I suspect Arnold may feel the same. Unlike Arnold I kept my Mac and still return to it from time to time. I've been a devoted Apple user on the mobile platform for several years and there is something that brings me back to the Mac again and again. It may be just that I don't like to admit failure in the face of any technology. I don't really know. About the only method I haven't tried is one on one training. That may be my next (and possibly final) step. Kimber On 7/7/16, Simon Fogarty wrote: Hi arnld, Just wondering why you didn’t keep it and put windows on it in bootcamp? That would give you vboth platforms and you can keep learnig on the apple os. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson Sent: Thursday, 7 July 2016 8:37 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back Arnold, if you ever get another one I would like to offer you some free one-on-one support with assisting you with your Mac in your tough struggles. My information that I would like you to have been say is below in my signature. I had my Mac from most two years and I don't regret getting it. I will say this, I can probably work a few more websites now that I couldn't work with Jaws with my Mac or my iPho and this message is not just for Arnold this is for anybody who has trouble with the Mac still free to use interviews my information in my signature as well as you wish. Joseph Hudson Email jhud7...@gmail.com<mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com> I device support Telephone 2543007667 Skype joseph.hudson89 facebook https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 Twitter https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 FaceTime/iMessage jhud7...@yahoo.com<mailto:jhud7...@yahoo.com> On Jul 6, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Arnold Schmidt mailto:arno...@mindspring.com>> wrote: I wand to thank everyone for the help I have received over the past two weeks, concerning my Mac Mini. However, I ended up taking it back after all yesterday, which was my last day to return it. To attempt to make a long message not quite so long, I guess I just wasn't getting it as much as I think I should have been. Every time I would turn it on, it seemed that I still was having to look up how to do things that I thought I had already learned, and it definitely was getting more frustrating than fun, being that I could very easily do those things in Windows, or on my iPhone. And in the end, what was going to be the real benefit to me? ITunes allegedly easier to use, and being able to install the OS myself. Being that yesterday was going to be my last day, I started out intending to put in a lot of extra time w
Re: Mac mini 2012
Go to Amazon, and search compulab, which is its brand name. I paid about $15 for it. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: "matthew dyer" To: Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 12:04 PM Subject: Re: Mac mini 2012 Hi, If you can get one cheep then do so, but you might be ok without one. I really can not say for sure as I do not have one. I know that the first mac mini that I owned would be sluggish if you do not have one connected. HTH. Matthew On Jul 7, 2016, at 10:57 AM, Portia Scott wrote: Hello all, Earlier this month, I purchased a Mac mini 2012. Does the Mac mini from that year, need a DVI adapter? If so, what kind of adapter would I need? Thank you. Portia. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back
Quite literally, my time was up. As you will read in some other messages, I am checking into some used equipment. Consider my taking the new one back the end of the chapter, not necessarily the end of the story. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Simon Fogarty To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 6:50 AM Subject: RE: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back Hi arnld, Just wondering why you didn’t keep it and put windows on it in bootcamp? That would give you vboth platforms and you can keep learnig on the apple os. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson Sent: Thursday, 7 July 2016 8:37 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back Arnold, if you ever get another one I would like to offer you some free one-on-one support with assisting you with your Mac in your tough struggles. My information that I would like you to have been say is below in my signature. I had my Mac from most two years and I don't regret getting it. I will say this, I can probably work a few more websites now that I couldn't work with Jaws with my Mac or my iPho and this message is not just for Arnold this is for anybody who has trouble with the Mac still free to use interviews my information in my signature as well as you wish. Joseph Hudson Email jhud7...@gmail.com I device support Telephone 2543007667 Skype joseph.hudson89 facebook https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 Twitter https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 FaceTime/iMessage jhud7...@yahoo.com On Jul 6, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I wand to thank everyone for the help I have received over the past two weeks, concerning my Mac Mini. However, I ended up taking it back after all yesterday, which was my last day to return it. To attempt to make a long message not quite so long, I guess I just wasn't getting it as much as I think I should have been. Every time I would turn it on, it seemed that I still was having to look up how to do things that I thought I had already learned, and it definitely was getting more frustrating than fun, being that I could very easily do those things in Windows, or on my iPhone. And in the end, what was going to be the real benefit to me? ITunes allegedly easier to use, and being able to install the OS myself. Being that yesterday was going to be my last day, I started out intending to put in a lot of extra time with it, before the time for my paratransit trip to return it arrived, which I still thought I was going to cancel. So, I decided to log into my bank web site, which I had not attempted yet. I successfully passed the first step in the two-step verification, but then, no matter what I tried, I couldn't get it to read the security question it wanted answered. No problem in Windows, or my iPhone, no go on this Mac mini. I could tell the location for the answer field, I could find what should have been the question field, it just wouldn't read anything. I typed in the answer to one of my security questions, which, of course, was the wrong answer for the question it was asking. I am sure the inability to get it to read the security question was mine, not the Mac Mini's . So, I closed Safari, then decided to turn on keyboard help, just to try differing combinations of keys I had never tried before to see what it would say. I was trying the function keys, and hit a key at the very right end of them, and it just shut off. Nothing I did would get VoiceOver talking again. I tried the three-finger triple tap on the track pad,then the three-finger double tap which is what it is on my iPhone, turned the track pad commander off and on, turned the whole computer off and back on, nothing. And this was my last day. I wish I had had 30 days. If I had had, I still don't think it would have gone back. But I didn't want to be one of those people who never quite got it, but it was too late to take it back, and I had over 900 dollars invested in the thing. Even though it would have put me lower in my checking account than I wanted to be, I should have kept the Windows 10 Lenovo I bought from Costco, and the Mac Mini, too, knowing one of them was going back. I bought the Lenovo first, after having talked myself out of buying a Mac, again. Sometime before Microsoft stops supporting Vista next spring, there will be another good deal come through Costco. I always had wanted to try a Mac, I am glad I did. But it ended up being so much tedium and frustration to me, as compared to what I already know, with not all that much seeming benefit in the end. I fully expected not to know what I was doing for a while, but I thought it would have
Opinions On This Used Mac Mini
It is from 2011. It has an i5, I think 2.5 gig, processor, but only 4 gig of ram. It has a 500 gig hard drive, which is plenty for me. They want about $430 for this computer. Thanks for any opinions. Arnold Schmidt Arnold Schmidt -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
First, or Second Generation Track Pad?
I have found a used first generation track pad for $60, if it isn't gone already. This sound like a good deal to me, but is the new one worth the extra money? I read somewhere, I don't remember where, that the first generation one is perhaps easier to use, but that it loves batteries. Thanks for any opinions. Arnold Schmidt -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back
I got an iPhone 5 in October, 2012, and now have an iPhone 6. I consider them to be the most life changing pieces of electronics I have ever bought. I wanted to try this Mac Mini, and am willing to give a Mac another attempt in the future. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 11:18 AM Subject: Re: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back I would have gone for an iPod. It’s an iPhone, without the phone. So you can spend as little or as much time with it as necessary, without being tied to any sort of contract. This was my first ever iOS device, the iPod Touch 4th Generation, and about six months later I migrated to the iPhone 4. To date, I have an iPod Touch 6th Generation, iPhone 5s and iPad Mini 2. I have other Apple products, but these will be kept off the list for now. I would highly recommend anyone to start out with an iPod before trying an iPhone. Just my £0.02 worth and it worked like a charm for me. On 6 Jul 2016, at 16:00, Arnold Schmidt wrote: Apple is the one who imposed the deadline. I called Apple Accessibility, and the Apple main number, trying to get it extended, no luck. I'll bet we all know blind people who get an iPhone, and just don't seem to get it. They end up getting Searie to do everything for them, because they just never seem to have caught on to using the touch screen. By then, they have their iPhone, like it or not, and would have to pay a big cancellation fee to return it. I just didn't want to have all this money invested in something that I very well may, but may not have caught onto eventually. By no means did I expect to be fluent at it by yesterday, but I think I should have been getting it, a little more than I was by the deadline. I am not opposed to trying it again in the future. It will have to be some kind of cheaper alternative, though, until I feel confident that I am going to get it. I wish Apple had given me more time. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Scott Granados To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 8:19 AM Subject: Re: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back Arnold, you never stood a chance. You can’t learn an operating system in 2 weeks, thinking you could was unreasonable. I wouldn’t even undertake such a thing with a limited time frame like that ant ai have 35 years of computer experience. Also, you went in to it with the wrong mindset. I remember the first posts you had set up for failure on day 1. It’s like learning a language, you can’t learn it word by word or just in dribs and drabs, the only real way to learn is full emersion. If I were learning French I’d head to France and plop down in the middle of the country where i didn’t have a choice. Same with computing. When you decide to learn a new operating system you have to cut your self off from the old. You have to build up all new muscle memory for keyboard commands. I’d say 10 to 1 you kept issuing windows type keyboard commands on the Mac and introducing problems not for anything you are doing wrong just because you’re new and have built up years of muscle memory for commands in Windows. You also didn’t value learning the Mac. You mentioned several times even in your first post that you wouldn’t gain anything. So in the end I’m not sure why you bothered. That’s like walking in to the job interview, telling your self you’re not going to get the job anyway and then living up to your expectations.:) If you ever try this again with any platform don’t limit yourself to an unreasonable amount of time. Maybe try an operating system like a Linux variant or something with is totally free out of the box, won’t cause any financial pressure and you can dedicate to it with out otherdistractions like worrying about the costs. No matter what, good job or giving it a crack. It’s good to push the boundaries and I’m glad you gave it a shot. P.S. Stay away from Costco. They totally screwed that migration from Amex. I canceled my membership because of the sloppy rollout. On Jul 6, 2016, at 4:50 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I wand to thank everyone for the help I have received over the past two weeks, concerning my Mac Mini. However, I ended up taking it back after all yesterday, which was my last day to return it. To attempt to make a long message not quite so long, I guess I just wasn't getting it as much as I think I should have been. Every time I would turn it on, it seemed that I still was having to look up how to do things that I thought I had already learned, and it definitely was getting more frustrating than fun, being that I could very easily do those things in Windows, or on my iPhone. And in the end, what was going to be the real benefit to me? ITunes allegedly easier to use, and being able to install the OS myself. Being that yesterday was going to
Re: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back
Apple is the one who imposed the deadline. I called Apple Accessibility, and the Apple main number, trying to get it extended, no luck. I'll bet we all know blind people who get an iPhone, and just don't seem to get it. They end up getting Searie to do everything for them, because they just never seem to have caught on to using the touch screen. By then, they have their iPhone, like it or not, and would have to pay a big cancellation fee to return it. I just didn't want to have all this money invested in something that I very well may, but may not have caught onto eventually. By no means did I expect to be fluent at it by yesterday, but I think I should have been getting it, a little more than I was by the deadline. I am not opposed to trying it again in the future. It will have to be some kind of cheaper alternative, though, until I feel confident that I am going to get it. I wish Apple had given me more time. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Scott Granados To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 8:19 AM Subject: Re: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back Arnold, you never stood a chance. You can’t learn an operating system in 2 weeks, thinking you could was unreasonable. I wouldn’t even undertake such a thing with a limited time frame like that ant ai have 35 years of computer experience. Also, you went in to it with the wrong mindset. I remember the first posts you had set up for failure on day 1. It’s like learning a language, you can’t learn it word by word or just in dribs and drabs, the only real way to learn is full emersion. If I were learning French I’d head to France and plop down in the middle of the country where i didn’t have a choice. Same with computing. When you decide to learn a new operating system you have to cut your self off from the old. You have to build up all new muscle memory for keyboard commands. I’d say 10 to 1 you kept issuing windows type keyboard commands on the Mac and introducing problems not for anything you are doing wrong just because you’re new and have built up years of muscle memory for commands in Windows. You also didn’t value learning the Mac. You mentioned several times even in your first post that you wouldn’t gain anything. So in the end I’m not sure why you bothered. That’s like walking in to the job interview, telling your self you’re not going to get the job anyway and then living up to your expectations.:) If you ever try this again with any platform don’t limit yourself to an unreasonable amount of time. Maybe try an operating system like a Linux variant or something with is totally free out of the box, won’t cause any financial pressure and you can dedicate to it with out other distractions like worrying about the costs. No matter what, good job or giving it a crack. It’s good to push the boundaries and I’m glad you gave it a shot. P.S. Stay away from Costco. They totally screwed that migration from Amex. I canceled my membership because of the sloppy rollout. On Jul 6, 2016, at 4:50 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I wand to thank everyone for the help I have received over the past two weeks, concerning my Mac Mini. However, I ended up taking it back after all yesterday, which was my last day to return it. To attempt to make a long message not quite so long, I guess I just wasn't getting it as much as I think I should have been. Every time I would turn it on, it seemed that I still was having to look up how to do things that I thought I had already learned, and it definitely was getting more frustrating than fun, being that I could very easily do those things in Windows, or on my iPhone. And in the end, what was going to be the real benefit to me? ITunes allegedly easier to use, and being able to install the OS myself. Being that yesterday was going to be my last day, I started out intending to put in a lot of extra time with it, before the time for my paratransit trip to return it arrived, which I still thought I was going to cancel. So, I decided to log into my bank web site, which I had not attempted yet. I successfully passed the first step in the two-step verification, but then, no matter what I tried, I couldn't get it to read the security question it wanted answered. No problem in Windows, or my iPhone, no go on this Mac mini. I could tell the location for the answer field, I could find what should have been the question field, it just wouldn't read anything. I typed in the answer to one of my security questions, which, of course, was the wrong answer for the question it was asking. I am sure the inability to get it to read the security question was mine, not the Mac Mini's . So, I closed Safari, then decided to turn on keyboard help, just to try differing combinations of keys I had never tried before to see what it would say.
Re: On a serious note Scott
I am curious: Are you using your device with a monitor connected to it? I don't know if this monitor has to be on, or not, it very well might have to be. If you are, the rest of this answer does not apply. Apparently, the mac needs to have a load connected to the HDMI port or it will give the symptom you described, VoiceOver saying busy. I bought what I call a dummy load to connect to the HDMI port of my mac mini. Go to amazon, and search the word compulab. What you want apparently is used by those who use the mac mini as a server. It goes for about $15. In the brief time I had it, VoiceOver never said busy. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: "Martin Brown" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 9:17 AM Subject: On a serious note Scott Hi Scott. Thankfully I'm not as paranoid as my last post might suggest. Just having a hard day with the Mail App. No matter what I want to do, I get a lot of 'busy busy' from good old Alex. Perhaps my system just needs a good old clean install. On a serious note, it is sad, if true, that those whom we put our trust in let us down in such an appalling way. But as you say, there are a lot of good people doing the best they can with the resources at their disposal. I have no doubt that the upgrade to Narrator coming next month will not include a talking installer. Perhaps someday it will. It is a long time overdue. If there are those who are suppose to have our best interests at heart, and through their greed have pushed that possibility further down the road than it should be at this time, well shame on them. Kind Regards: Martin -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back
I wand to thank everyone for the help I have received over the past two weeks, concerning my Mac Mini. However, I ended up taking it back after all yesterday, which was my last day to return it. To attempt to make a long message not quite so long, I guess I just wasn't getting it as much as I think I should have been. Every time I would turn it on, it seemed that I still was having to look up how to do things that I thought I had already learned, and it definitely was getting more frustrating than fun, being that I could very easily do those things in Windows, or on my iPhone. And in the end, what was going to be the real benefit to me? ITunes allegedly easier to use, and being able to install the OS myself. Being that yesterday was going to be my last day, I started out intending to put in a lot of extra time with it, before the time for my paratransit trip to return it arrived, which I still thought I was going to cancel. So, I decided to log into my bank web site, which I had not attempted yet. I successfully passed the first step in the two-step verification, but then, no matter what I tried, I couldn't get it to read the security question it wanted answered. No problem in Windows, or my iPhone, no go on this Mac mini. I could tell the location for the answer field, I could find what should have been the question field, it just wouldn't read anything. I typed in the answer to one of my security questions, which, of course, was the wrong answer for the question it was asking. I am sure the inability to get it to read the security question was mine, not the Mac Mini's . So, I closed Safari, then decided to turn on keyboard help, just to try differing combinations of keys I had never tried before to see what it would say. I was trying the function keys, and hit a key at the very right end of them, and it just shut off. Nothing I did would get VoiceOver talking again. I tried the three-finger triple tap on the track pad,then the three-finger double tap which is what it is on my iPhone, turned the track pad commander off and on, turned the whole computer off and back on, nothing. And this was my last day. I wish I had had 30 days. If I had had, I still don't think it would have gone back. But I didn't want to be one of those people who never quite got it, but it was too late to take it back, and I had over 900 dollars invested in the thing. Even though it would have put me lower in my checking account than I wanted to be, I should have kept the Windows 10 Lenovo I bought from Costco, and the Mac Mini, too, knowing one of them was going back. I bought the Lenovo first, after having talked myself out of buying a Mac, again. Sometime before Microsoft stops supporting Vista next spring, there will be another good deal come through Costco. I always had wanted to try a Mac, I am glad I did. But it ended up being so much tedium and frustration to me, as compared to what I already know, with not all that much seeming benefit in the end. I fully expected not to know what I was doing for a while, but I thought it would have begun to get easier by yesterday, which, I guess, it wasn't, even with the two books I have. Arnold Schmidt -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Disappointed with Voiceover
Being that I am still so new with the Mac that if I went to www.thesoapkitchen.co.uk and it wouldn't work well, I would assume it is me, not Safari. So, I went to it with this pc, using jaws, and it seemed to work well enough, of course, I didn't try to order anything. I then went to it on my iPhone, with the same results. I think that if I had wanted to order anything, I would have had no problem. So, is Safari in the iPhone often better than Safari on the Mac? If so, that is discouraging. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Devin Prater To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 8:17 AM Subject: Re: Disappointed with Voiceover Well, all three operating systems have problems. Windows and Linux aren’t much better, just with Windows you get used to poor performance, and with Linux you have to do everything yourself. Sent from my Mac. Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com On Jul 4, 2016, at 7:13 AM, Martin Brown wrote: My first encounter with Voiceover was back in the Snow Leopard days, and boy was I impressed with the level of commitment by Apple to its screen reader. It was back then I was enthusiastic about learning as much as I could about this very different way of accessing a computer. It was quite a struggle having come from the Windows environment, but I persevered and most of what I know about interacting with my Mac goes back to those days. Sadly, I feel it has been down hill as far as building upon what made Voiceover a great solution to help a blind person do what needs to be done to get the most and the best out of their Mac. In the past few years I only drop in occasionally to see if things are getting better with what used to be a great product only to find that things are no better, and sometimes even worse. We are now some nine months into the release of El Capitan, and still there are bugs that should have been sorted before the software was even out the door. I am not one of those people who expect everything to always work perfectly from day one. Nor do I expect that sometimes one has to think outside the box when working with energised silicone chips, but when doing basic tasks such as deleting a web site from favourites, the task should be simple and take seconds to perform. Oh boy, not on this Mac. And then there's Safari. When it works it's good, but when it doesn't it would drive a Zen master towards the Prozac shelf. On some sites its fine, on others it's rickety, while on others it quite simply refuses to work. An example of the latter is the Soap Kitchen, a company based in the United Kingdom. It was so bad I was on the verge of pressing the off switch to get out of the mess. The big problem with the Mac is, if Voiceover is playing up then you're basically stuffed. On a Windows machine, what one screen reader doesn't do another might. I know there are very dedicated and able users of Voiceover on this list who may take offence to an interloper such as myself for daring to criticise Apple for its efforts. However, I feel if El Capitan is the best a multibillion company can do for its disabled customers, then give me Windows any day where I have to pay for a more reliable screen reader. Free is not always best, and Voiceover is testimony to that. In the near future, it is rumoured, that Microsoft will provide a screen reader worthy of that label. I am not holding my breath for that to become a reality. However, let's assume that Microsoft finally gets a moral conscience and does what it should have done years ago and enables people who are blind to access their product out of the box. If it is as bug-ridden as Voiceover is, then I will still be happy to pay for a better experience. Despite my best efforts with the Mac, my productivity suffers badly using Voiceover. However, all is not lost. After all we will soon be getting a new and supposedly better operating system from the Gods at Apple. Perhaps I will give it a go after a nine month period in the hope that Apple has once more taken its commitment to accessibility back on to a more serious footing. As with Microsoft, however, I shall not be holding my breath. I have been reliably informed that asphyxia is not a pleasant way to pop one's clogs. On a final note, I know and accept that screen readers such as JAWS and Window-Eyes are not perfect. But I find both way more reliable than Voiceover. Using either with Internet Explorer, the vast majority of sites are very manageable. What I want to do with my computer, be it Windows or Mac, is to just get the job done in as short a time as possible. The last thing I want to spend my time on is trying to figure out how to get around a bug that som
Two Devices On The Same Apple Id Questions
When I set up my Mac mini, I used the same Apple Id that I use on my phone. My general question: Being that I am the only one who will be using these devices, is there any advantage to having two separate id's? My mail question: ICloud installed the information for my gmail account, which I use on my phone, onto my Mac. I would like to add this Mindspring account to my Mac. If I do, I imagine it will appear on my phone, also. I have no problem with both accounts being on both devices, but will I be able to tell my phone to fetch mail only from gmail, and my Mac, only from Mindspring? I hope so, but I want to know before I wish I had known.I get too much mail from Mindspring to want to mess with it on my phone on a regular basis. Thanks in advance for any information. Arnold Schmidt -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Pages or OFfice 2016, need your advice
If a person writes a document in Pages, can a person using Word open it and everything will appear as it appeared in Pages? Or, can a person open a complex Word document in Pages and its formatting will be preserved? I thought both parties had to use the same word processor to preserve all the formatting. If I were still writing college level papers, I would have stuck with windows and word, being that is what everybody else would be using. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Anne Robertson To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 9:16 AM Subject: Re: Pages or OFfice 2016, need your advice Hello Ramy, I don’t know whether you can easily do the things you need to do using Word 2016 for Mac, but they can all be done using Pages. Along with my husband, Archie, I wrote a book on Pages which explains how to do all the things you need. You can buy it for $35 US from: <http://mosen.org/mymacpages/> Cheers, Anne On 2 Jul 2016, at 14:19, Ramy Moustafa wrote: Hello all: after i finish my master, on windows, i decided to use my mac for any future researches. i was using an old version of office because i can do everything that i need. but i need to update. so, what is your recommendation? in the 2 cases i will start learning on mac, but what is the best to study, pages or office on mac? i need some complex issues, like creating styles, using foot notes, incerting tables, etc, not just writing a simple document. so any help will be highly abbrecitated to guide me on my future use of mac. Thanks -- Ramy MoustafaSaber Music instructor @: Faculty ofmusical education Music arranger and Sound engineer @: Harmony Recording Studio https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Converting songs to mp3 with latest iTunes and ElCap.issue with apple music store
I just looked them up in Apple Music on my iPhone, spelling chillie the way you did, and it found them. I was surprised, thinking it would not find them, either. Spell it chili, and I'll bet it will find them for you. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Simon Fogarty To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 5:39 PM Subject: RE: Converting songs to mp3 with latest iTunes and ElCap.issue with apple music store I’m having a bit of trouble with apple music currently, I can’t find the red hot chillie peppers on the apple music store. Can anyone in the northern hemisphere find them, I’m wondering if it’s a library block. From: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] Sent: Saturday, 25 June 2016 8:42 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Converting songs to mp3 with latest iTunes and ElCap. Hmm. I don't seem to be able to reproduce this. I went to playlist and then to Purchased to make sure I had tracks from iTunes and not ripped from my own CDs. I stopped interacting, did VO-right twice to get past the splitter to the scroll area, interacted with that, did a VO-right to move from the header to the table, interacted with that and then just did plain up/down arrows to select a track. After that I did VO-m to go to the menus, right arrow twice to get to File, down about 12 times to convert, right to Create MP3 version and that was it. CB On 6/23/16 7:33 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote: Hi, I’m running the latest OS and the latest iTunes and I am no longer able to convert purchased songs to mp3. Before, I could highlight a song and do a VO-shift m and convert to mp3. This doesn’t work and if I choose convert from the file menu it is dimmed. Any help is appreciated. Blessings, Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send emai
Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?
Thanks for all the response I have gotten to my question. So everyone will know, at this point, it is much less likely that I will take it back than that I will. And I am very willing to admit that I don't really know what I am doing yet, that was very much expected by me. I have seen several people write to say that I can change something so I don't have to do all that interacting. First, why do you suppose Apple set it up this way in the first place? Is there something about having to interact with things that, when I get use to it, I will find it to be much better this way? If not, tell me how to fix it so that, at least temporarily, I don't have to do it. Yes, I do have a track pad. I am glad to have it, it is somewhat similar to my iPhone, and when I get everything together, it will be the closest I will have become to being able to use a mouse,as well as keyboard commands. When I am use to everything, I expect I will use both keyboard and track pad, getting the best of both worlds. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: "Mike Arrigo" To: Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 11:51 AM Subject: Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows? Here are my reasons whyI think the mac is better and why I left the Windows world, at least for home use. First, an excellent screen reader is built in to the operating system. I think you said you were using a mac mini, you can use the track pad if you have one, I use the numpad commander on my mac mini, it makes navigating easier. You can change a voiceover setting so you don't have to interact with most things if it's too confusing for you. You can reinstall your operating system, even with a new hard drive without requiring sighted help. I think the mac provides the best experience when browsing the internet. This is not an accessibility feature, but the mac operating system is much cleaner than windows. The applications are self contained, you don't have a central registry controlling everything, or shared files that need to be installed all over the place. Finally, Apple has maintained the same interface over several versions of the operating system, they don't feel a need to change it with each version the way Microsoft changes Windows. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Original message: Please forgive the long message to follow. Just delete it if you don't want to read it. I have been messing around with my new Mac Mini over the weekend. I have the two books, Everything You Need To Know To Use The Mac With El Capitan And Voice Over, by Janet Ingber, and Mastering The Macintosh With Voice Over, by Tim Sniffen.I thoroughly expected not to know what I am doing for a while, at the moment, that is an understatement. I have it set up, thanks to Mr. Sniffen's book, Ms. Ingber seems to assume one will have sighted help to do that. I have been with windows since 2000, and Jaws 3.5. I still have Jaws, having bought, last December, the SMA through version 19. I have to figure out, by July 5, whether I want to take the Mac back to the Apple store to get my money back. So far, it seems like a bunch of incredible tedium to get things done, as compared to Windows. The track pad helps, it makes it a little more like my iPhone 6, that I love. Getting things done on the iPhone never seemed to have nearly the tedium as does the Mac,even when my iPhone 5 was new to me. For example, having to interact with things, rather than just hitting enter when I want to do something, or press two or three keys at the same time to get VoiceOver to do something, I have no doubt that I can learn it, but My nagging question during my 14 days is going to be: why? What is so much better about this than Windows? Is the Mac really better, or just different? Is, for example, iTunes really easier to use? What little I have investigated, I am not yet convinced that it is. Already having Jaws, I don't have the issue of having to buy a windows screen reader, and NVDA is making it unnecessary even for a new Windows user to do so. I paid over 50 percent more for this Mac Mini than I could have bought a Windows 10 computer. I wish I had 30 days, rather than 14, to figure this out. The time is ticking. What is so much better about this than Windows, which I already know how to use? Arnold Schmidt -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ <http://www.mail-archive.co
Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?
To be fair to Jaws, it is only $60 a year if you keep up the SMA. The professional version is more, I think about $90 a year. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: David Chittenden To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 10:06 PM Subject: Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows? I switched from Windows to Mac at the end of 2011. Voiceover is updated every time Apple updates the Mac's OS, just like the iPhone. The touchpad commander gives me more usability than touchscreens on Windows. That said, I do not know how accessible Jaws is with Windows 10 touchscreen. I am waiting, quite impatiently, for Apple to add a full touchscreen to the Mac. There are things about Mac which annoy me, but paying $250 per year to update Jaws anoyed me even more. All that said, I will soon be required to go back to Windows if I get a new job I am trying for. On the persanal side, I will continue with the Mac. More software is accessible on it. And, Apple actually has an accessibility focus. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 27 Jun 2016, at 11:17, Arnold Schmidt wrote: Please forgive the long message to follow. Just delete it if you don't want to read it. I have been messing around with my new Mac Mini over the weekend. I have the two books, Everything You Need To Know To Use The Mac With El Capitan And Voice Over, by Janet Ingber, and Mastering The Macintosh With Voice Over, by Tim Sniffen.I thoroughly expected not to know what I am doing for a while, at the moment, that is an understatement. I have it set up, thanks to Mr. Sniffen's book, Ms. Ingber seems to assume one will have sighted help to do that. I have been with windows since 2000, and Jaws 3.5. I still have Jaws, having bought, last December, the SMA through version 19. I have to figure out, by July 5, whether I want to take the Mac back to the Apple store to get my money back. So far, it seems like a bunch of incredible tedium to get things done, as compared to Windows. The track pad helps, it makes it a little more like my iPhone 6, that I love. Getting things done on the iPhone never seemed to have nearly the tedium as does the Mac,even when my iPhone 5 was new to me. For example, having to interact with things, rather than just hitting enter when I want to do something, or press two or three keys at the same time to get VoiceOver to do something, I have no doubt that I can learn it, but My nagging question during my 14 days is going to be: why? What is so much better about this than Windows? Is the Mac really better, or just different? Is, for example, iTunes really easier to use? What little I have investigated, I am not yet convinced that it is. Already having Jaws, I don't have the issue of having to buy a windows screen reader, and NVDA is making it unnecessary even for a new Windows user to do so. I paid over 50 percent more for this Mac Mini than I could have bought a Windows 10 computer. I wish I had 30 days, rather than 14, to figure this out.The time is ticking. What is so much better about this than Windows, which I already know how to use? Arnold Schmidt -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscrib
Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?
I have been curious about the Mac for quite a while. About a month after buying this Vista computer in 2008, I listened to Mike Are ego's excellent series of podcasts on BlindCoolTech about the Mac. If I had listened to them before buying this computer, I would have bought a Mac then. Microsoft will stop supporting vista next spring, so I thought it would be a good time to investigate the Mac. Also, iTunes allegedly is easier to use on the Mac. Being that I can not run any version of it since 12.1.3 on this computer, I can not speak for the very latest versions of iTunes for Windows, which seem to have some problems. Through 12.1.3, I have never had the problems some have had using iTunes for Windows. I have been with Windows since Windows 98, and am not dissatisfied with it. I am more just curious about the Mac environment, being it seems to have such devoted followers. I love my iPhone, considering it to be, THE most life changing piece of electronics I have ever bought, and some tell me that the iPhone and Mac work better together than with Windows. I am just curious about it all. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Mary Otten To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 9:28 PM Subject: Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows? Hi Hank, What are the things that you want to do with your mat? What prompted you to purchase the Mac in the first place? What are you dissatisfied with regarding windows? I think all of those things which depend on you are the real questions that need answering regarding whether a Mac is a better choice for you than windows. Regarding iTunes, I have not used it with windows ever. I know there are folks who do use it with windows. I have a friend who has windows and never used a Mac, and he hates iTunes with a passion. I have used iTunes on the Mac. It seems usable, but iTunes is certainly not my favorite program either. I think, depending on your answers to the questions at the start of this message, it may well be a good thing for you to turn your Mac back in and just keep on using windows. You could of course run Windows on your Mac. But why? I bought a Mac many years ago when snow leopard was the current version of OS X. I now have a different Mac mini. Honestly, if I had it to do again, I am not sure that I would buy a Mac. Progress has not been what I had hoped it would be on the Mac with respect to things like reading PDF files and scanning large volumes of material and embossing braille, all of which I still do on windows. On the other hand, I have a very large library in iTunes on my Mac that I ripped from CDs, most of which are now gone. I have stereos with airport expresses and an Apple TV and airplay. So in that regard, I guess I'm stuck in the Mac ecosystem. But if I had it to do again, I'm not sure I would have gone that route. So, again, why did you buy a Mac? What do you want to get out of the Mac? And what don't you like about windows? Sent from my iPhone On Jun 26, 2016, at 6:17 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: Please forgive the long message to follow. Just delete it if you don't want to read it. I have been messing around with my new Mac Mini over the weekend. I have the two books, Everything You Need To Know To Use The Mac With El Capitan And Voice Over, by Janet Ingber, and Mastering The Macintosh With Voice Over, by Tim Sniffen.I thoroughly expected not to know what I am doing for a while, at the moment, that is an understatement. I have it set up, thanks to Mr. Sniffen's book, Ms. Ingber seems to assume one will have sighted help to do that. I have been with windows since 2000, and Jaws 3.5. I still have Jaws, having bought, last December, the SMA through version 19. I have to figure out, by July 5, whether I want to take the Mac back to the Apple store to get my money back. So far, it seems like a bunch of incredible tedium to get things done, as compared to Windows. The track pad helps, it makes it a little more like my iPhone 6, that I love. Getting things done on the iPhone never seemed to have nearly the tedium as does the Mac,even when my iPhone 5 was new to me. For example, having to interact with things, rather than just hitting enter when I want to do something, or press two or three keys at the same time to get VoiceOver to do something, I have no doubt that I can learn it, but My nagging question during my 14 days is going to be: why? What is so much better about this than Windows? Is the Mac really better, or just different? Is, for example, iTunes really easier to use? What little I have investigated, I am not yet convinced that it is. Already having Jaws, I don't have the issue of having to buy a windows screen reader, and NVDA is making it unnecessary even for a new Windows user to do so. I paid over 50 percent more for this Mac Mini than I coul
Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?
Please forgive the long message to follow. Just delete it if you don't want to read it. I have been messing around with my new Mac Mini over the weekend. I have the two books, Everything You Need To Know To Use The Mac With El Capitan And Voice Over, by Janet Ingber, and Mastering The Macintosh With Voice Over, by Tim Sniffen.I thoroughly expected not to know what I am doing for a while, at the moment, that is an understatement. I have it set up, thanks to Mr. Sniffen's book, Ms. Ingber seems to assume one will have sighted help to do that. I have been with windows since 2000, and Jaws 3.5. I still have Jaws, having bought, last December, the SMA through version 19. I have to figure out, by July 5, whether I want to take the Mac back to the Apple store to get my money back. So far, it seems like a bunch of incredible tedium to get things done, as compared to Windows. The track pad helps, it makes it a little more like my iPhone 6, that I love. Getting things done on the iPhone never seemed to have nearly the tedium as does the Mac,even when my iPhone 5 was new to me. For example, having to interact with things, rather than just hitting enter when I want to do something, or press two or three keys at the same time to get VoiceOver to do something, I have no doubt that I can learn it, but My nagging question during my 14 days is going to be: why? What is so much better about this than Windows? Is the Mac really better, or just different? Is, for example, iTunes really easier to use? What little I have investigated, I am not yet convinced that it is. Already having Jaws, I don't have the issue of having to buy a windows screen reader, and NVDA is making it unnecessary even for a new Windows user to do so. I paid over 50 percent more for this Mac Mini than I could have bought a Windows 10 computer. I wish I had 30 days, rather than 14, to figure this out.The time is ticking. What is so much better about this than Windows, which I already know how to use? Arnold Schmidt -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Adobe Flash player and Mac
If I install it, will it generally play the content? If you mean that VoiceOver won't interact with it, I hope you mean that it is as it is in windows, when using a screen reader, in that there are a lot of buttons and controls that can't be accessed, but the material will play, most of the time. Thanks for any information. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: "Jeffrey Shockley" To: Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 9:37 AM Subject: Re: Adobe Flash player and Mac Hello, You can get Flash Player for Mac by typing in get.adobe.com/flashplayer in Safari. While it can be installed, VoiceOver can’t interact with Flash content sadly. Hope this helps, Jeffrey On Jun 26, 2016, at 9:22 AM, Jenine Stanley wrote: All, I m trying to complete an on-line course that says I must have Adobe Flash player installed and working. I’m using an iMac 2014 running El Cap. I can’t get past this point in the course without being able to use Flash. Other parts of the course are totally inaccessible but this flash thing is the last straw. So, can I indeed install flash on the Mac, and if I can, will it work with VO? I’m beyond frustrated. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Adobe Reader DC
Or, if you have an iPhone, , forward it to your iPhone and use Voice Dream Reader to read it. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Chris Meredith To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 12:13 PM Subject: Re: Adobe Reader DC Yes. I even tried setting a hotspot on the PDF’s contents, which then registered as inactive if I moved the VoiceOver focus outside the PDF content. As someone who’s worked in software QA for years now, I can honestly say that Adobe should be full of shame for letting that problem get past QA. Time to spin up a Windows VM, I guess. On Jun 26, 2016, at 1:45 AM, jaan ali wrote: Hi, if you talking about the Mac then the same thing happened with me as well I am very disappointed with the PDF with Mac so that's why I'm using Windows only for this purpose Sent from my iPhone DISCLAIMER: "The information contained in this message is confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. It is intended only for the person(s) named as addressee. The dissemination, distribution,copying or disclosure of this message, or its contents is strictly prohibited unless authorized by the sender. If you have received this message in error, please notify to the sender at the above address and delete the email." On Jun 26, 2016, at 12:35 AM, Chris Meredith wrote: Hey folks, So I downloaded Adobe Reader DC, confident* in its ability to allow access to PDF files using VoiceOver. Upon selecting a PDF, I was dropped into, astoundingly enough, an accessible view of the document. Now, here’s the good bit—when I moved out of that accessible area, I was completely unable to get back to the document. Did Acrobat actually design things such that you have only one chance at viewing your PDF document, or am I making some sort of newbie error? * For suitably small values of “confident”. Actually not confident at all. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@
Antivirus For My Mac Mini?
How many use some type of an antivirus program? It has been said for years that the Mac did not need one. But it isn't as if they can't get viruses, it is more that the virus writers concentrate on writing viruses for windows and android phones. If antivirus and anti-malware programs are necessary, which ones are accessible? Thanks in advance for any information. I am going to the Apple store on Wednesday afternoon, and unless I discover something completely unforeseen, I will buy my mini then. Arnold Schmidt -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: How Often Would I Need A Numb Pad
I have since decided to buy the wired keyboard. I will have the numb pad in case I want to learn to use it. Plus, it will be about $50 less than the wireless one. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Anders Holmberg To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 2:19 AM Subject: Re: How Often Would I Need A Numb Pad Hi! Well that depends on how you use the keyboard. There is a numpad commander so that the numpad keys acts as navigation keys for Voiceover. For example you navigate with numpad 6 and 4, 2 and 8. You can interact with numpad 9 and stop interacting with numpad 7. For me its really great but that does not say you agree. Hope that helps. /A On 18 Jun 2016, at 23:52, Arnold Schmidt wrote: Not yet knowing a lot about using VoiceOver on a mac, do I need a keyboard with a numb pad very often? I know it surely can be used without a numb pad, but, as with Jaws, is it easier to use with one? The option of buying the wireless magic keyboard appeals to me, but I don't know how often I would wish I had the numb pad. Thanks for any information. Arnold Schmidt -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Will I Still Need A Dummy Monitor Load
It use to be that I would need a dummy monitor load to connect to my soon to be acquired Mac Mini, being that I will not be using a monitor. Otherwise, VoiceOver would become sluggish and almost unusable. Now, I read that the modern computers and operating systems no longer need this load. Do I still need it? I found one on Amazon, by Compulab, for $15. Thanks in advance for any information. Arnold Schmidt -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
If I Get A Track Pad, Do I need A Mouse?
I am going through the options for my new Mac Mini that I now know I am going to get. Do I need a mouse, too, if I get a track pad? I don't need it, and I would think that if I ever need sighted help, they could use the track pad as they would use the touch screen on my iPhone. Thanks for any information. Arnold Schmidt -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
How Often Would I Need A Numb Pad
Not yet knowing a lot about using VoiceOver on a mac, do I need a keyboard with a numb pad very often? I know it surely can be used without a numb pad, but, as with Jaws, is it easier to use with one? The option of buying the wireless magic keyboard appeals to me, but I don't know how often I would wish I had the numb pad. Thanks for any information. Arnold Schmidt -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Faster Processor, or More Memory?
Again, I am seriously considering purchasing a Mac Mini. The one that I am considering has a 1 tb hard drive, 8 gig of memory, and an i5 processor for $699. I can afford to either upgrade the processor to an i7 for $300, or get a total of 16 gig of memory for $200, but not both. I just do simple things with my computer, email, web surfing, streaming audio or YouTube, maybe Netflix or hulu in the future, and backup and otherwise manipulate my iPhone. I probably will not install windows on it, I will make a clean break and learn to use my new Mac. One more thing: I keep a computer for a long time. This vista pc is from 2008, and the only reasons I am replacing it are because it won't run iTunes later than 12.1.3, and Microsoft is going to stop supporting vista next spring. So, would it be a better spending of money to get the i7 processor, or 16 gig of memory? My thinking: the i7 processor may make it capable of running a new Mac OS a time or two longer in the future. Or, should I save my money and buy it with its i5 and 8 gig of memory? Thanks in advance for any opinions. Arnold Schmidt -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
