I have been thinking about this for several days. As one coming from
Windows, having used windows since I got my windows 98 computer in 2000,
learning to use the mac is like learning a whole new language. I know what
I want to do, but how to do it is almost totally different. Hey, control c
copies something and control v pastes it, they have that in common. But I
have come up with the best reason yet for me to get some used equipment and
learn to do it. Even if I come to the conclusion that there really isn't a
whole lot I can do, in all caps, BETTER on the mac than in windows, I
learned to do it, and will be able to speak? mac as well as windows. That
is a pretty good reason to do it. I admit, I probably wouldn't bother if I
didn't have my iPhone, which apparently works a little better in Mac iTunes,
than in windows iTunes. We'll see, eventually. Now, if I just didn't have
to work 40 hours a week, becoming proficient in mac would happen sooner.
This was one of my vacation weeks.
Arnold Schmidt
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From: "Kimber Gardner" <kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 7:21 AM
Subject: Re: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back
I'm not Arnold so can't presume to answer for him, but I found myself
in a similar situation several years ago when I bought a MacAir.
Despite multiple attempts to learn the new operating system, I found
myself frustrated at nearly every turn. Now I've been an IT
professional for thirty years, working all that time in the windows
environment, still I found the learning curve extremely daunting.
I've read this thread with great interest and I think the many
comments about total immersion while learning may have been the root
of my own failure with the Mac. Because I became frustrated in my
attempts to accomplish the simplest of tasks (like reading and
answering email), I frequently switched back to windows to do what I
needed to do. Consequently I lost whatever ground I had gained in the
Mac universe.
This is my rather long way of saying that while installing bootcamp on
a Mac may seem like no big deal to you (or anyone who is comfortable
with the Mac), for me that task seems like a mountain the size of
Everest. I suspect Arnold may feel the same.
Unlike Arnold I kept my Mac and still return to it from time to time.
I've been a devoted Apple user on the mobile platform for several
years and there is something that brings me back to the Mac again and
again. It may be just that I don't like to admit failure in the face
of any technology. I don't really know. About the only method I
haven't tried is one on one training. That may be my next (and
possibly final) step.
Kimber
On 7/7/16, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
Hi arnld,
Just wondering why you didn’t keep it and put windows on it in bootcamp?
That would give you vboth platforms and you can keep learnig on the apple
os.
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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Thursday, 7 July 2016 8:37 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back
Arnold, if you ever get another one I would like to offer you some free
one-on-one support with assisting you with your Mac in your tough
struggles.
My information that I would like you to have been say is below in my
signature. I had my Mac from most two years and I don't regret getting it.
I
will say this, I can probably work a few more websites now that I couldn't
work with Jaws with my Mac or my iPho and this message is not just for
Arnold this is for anybody who has trouble with the Mac still free to use
interviews my information in my signature as well as you wish.
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On Jul 6, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Arnold Schmidt
<arno...@mindspring.com<mailto:arno...@mindspring.com>> wrote:
I wand to thank everyone for the help I have received over the past two
weeks, concerning my Mac Mini. However, I ended up taking it back after
all
yesterday, which was my last day to return it.
To attempt to make a long message not quite so long, I guess I just wasn't
getting it as much as I think I should have been. Every time I would turn
it on, it seemed that I still was having to look up how to do things that
I
thought I had already learned, and it definitely was getting more
frustrating than fun, being that I could very easily do those things in
Windows, or on my iPhone. And in the end, what was going to be the real
benefit to me? ITunes allegedly easier to use, and being able to install
the OS myself.
Being that yesterday was going to be my last day, I started out intending
to
put in a lot of extra time with it, before the time for my paratransit
trip
to return it arrived, which I still thought I was going to cancel. So, I
decided to log into my bank web site, which I had not attempted yet. I
successfully passed the first step in the two-step verification, but then,
no matter what I tried, I couldn't get it to read the security question it
wanted answered. No problem in Windows, or my iPhone, no go on this Mac
mini. I could tell the location for the answer field, I could find what
should have been the question field, it just wouldn't read anything. I
typed in the answer to one of my security questions, which, of course, was
the wrong answer for the question it was asking. I am sure the inability
to
get it to read the security question was mine, not the Mac Mini's . So, I
closed Safari, then decided to turn on keyboard help, just to try
differing
combinations of keys I had never tried before to see what it would say. I
was trying the function keys, and hit a key at the very right end of them,
and it just shut off. Nothing I did would get VoiceOver talking again. I
tried the three-finger triple tap on the track pad,then the three-finger
double tap which is what it is on my iPhone, turned the track pad
commander
off and on, turned the whole computer off and back on, nothing. And this
was my last day.
I wish I had had 30 days. If I had had, I still don't think it would have
gone back. But I didn't want to be one of those people who never quite
got
it, but it was too late to take it back, and I had over 900 dollars
invested
in the thing. Even though it would have put me lower in my checking
account
than I wanted to be, I should have kept the Windows 10 Lenovo I bought
from
Costco, and the Mac Mini, too, knowing one of them was going back. I
bought
the Lenovo first, after having talked myself out of buying a Mac, again.
Sometime before Microsoft stops supporting Vista next spring, there will
be
another good deal come through Costco.
I always had wanted to try a Mac, I am glad I did. But it ended up being
so
much tedium and frustration to me, as compared to what I already know,
with
not all that much seeming benefit in the end. I fully expected not to know
what I was doing for a while, but I thought it would have begun to get
easier by yesterday, which, I guess, it wasn't, even with the two books I
have.
Arnold Schmidt
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