Re: Flash content, who do we contact?

2009-08-13 Thread Jessi and Goldina

I agree. I'm getting annoyed with the lack of flash. I once emailed  
apple and asked about the inaccessability of live journal voice posts,  
which use flash, and they told me to contact adobe.
On 13-Aug-09, at 1:11 PM, Marie Howarth wrote:

>
> OK, I am no expert on these matters so I am coming to the list to ask
> the questions. Who are we to contact about the lack of accessibility
> with flash content? Apple or Adobe? I really am getting tired of not
> being able to use flash content and it is actually slightly better on
> the other OS but no where near as good as it once was. I used to be
> able to use flash content around version eight I believe it was but
> sadly we all had to upgrade to the really bad version nine which
> caused me to lose any hope of using flash. in the latest version with
> Jaws, although nothing is labeled, it seems a little better. so
> please, who do we talk too? I really feel this would help us all and
> if anyone else wants to use flash, let's email the relevant people. :)
>
>
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Re: clean install or upgrade?

2009-08-27 Thread Jessi and Goldina

I plan to do a clean install also and plan to record it too. I'm not  
sure if I'll spread it around, I guess it depends on how well I feel  
it goes, lol. this is my first time ever installing an OS on any  
platform though, so I thought it should be recorded haha. can someone  
explain the steps for doing a "clean install?" I'm sure it's been  
discussed to death but I've been away at my cabin and had about 2000  
messages in my inbox so didn't pay much attention as I rapidly  
deleted, lol. I assume a clean install means deleting leopard and all  
other data? which would of course mean backing up first...I can't use  
time machine cuz it won't work with my external drive without me  
deleting everything off it and I'm so not doing that, so I plan to  
just copy and paste all my data and stuff over. I guess I'll lose my  
emails, but maybe there's some way other than time machine of  
archiving them before I do this?

and now I'll stop rambling, I'm sure I'm not making much sense. it's  
time for bed and book for me. but I just wanna make sure I have all  
the steps in place for when the big moment comes!!! I'm pretty excited  
about it!!
Jessi and Goldina
On 27-Aug-09, at 9:55 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

>
> I would reccomend that you do a clean install, it may take a bit more
> time to reinstall everything, but it's usually more reliable,
> certainly that's what I'm going to do, and I plan on recording mac pod
> cast number 10, dedicated to the install of snow leopard, so stay
> tuned for that.
> On Aug 27, 2009, at 9:17 AM, a radix wrote:
>
>> Hello, i am ordering sl via the phone now. I wonder, is an upgrade
>> (so not a totally clean install) recommended? I know it is a VERY
>> BAD IDEA on a iwndows machine but i wonder if it is ok on a mac? I
>> would actually like it if my current settings could be used.
>> Greetings, Anouk
>>
>>>
>
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Re: A Quick Introduction from Mark with Snow Leopard

2009-08-29 Thread Jessi and Goldina

hey Mark,
good to see you out here! I've seen you on the iPhone list though I  
rarely post there cuz I don't have an iPhone yet. I enjoy your posts  
though, you have a fun way of saying things.  I've been a mac user for  
a little over a year though and am so glad you made the jump! the mac  
really is awesome and accessible!! I haven't upgraded to snow leopard  
yet, waiting for that stray kitty to arrive on my doorstep lol. but  
when it does, you can bet it'll be here to stay!! I can't wait to  
enjoy all the new accessibility features!!

take care and keep enjoying your mac! and don't be shy, the list is  
for asking questions!!
Jessi and Goldina
On 29-Aug-09, at 10:54 AM, M. Taylor wrote:

>
> Hello Mike,
>
> You got me smiling, buddy.  Yes, Snow Leopard is on the move, to be  
> sure.
>
> As difficult as it is for me to believe, I find that I am amazed at  
> the
> level of accessibility of Snow Leopard.
>
> For the first time, in a mighty long while, I am actually eager to  
> use a
> computer, once again.
>
> As I have said on many occasions, it's a wonderful time to be blind  
> or low
> vision; and I wouldn't miss it for the world.  (Smile)
>
> I look forward to our next conversation, Mike.
>
> Your Partner in Crime,
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 6:01 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A Quick Introduction from Mark with Snow Leopard
>
>
> Hey Mark, that's great, I figured you might get a mac sooner or later,
> and I think you will be a great adition to the mac community. When you
> can, give itunes a try, you may like it better than in windows. The
> windows screen companies better be ware, the snow leopard is coming
> for them, lol.
> On Aug 29, 2009, at 2:38 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> My name is Mark Taylor.
>>
>> As an iPhone user, I decided, last week, to purchase a MacBook Pro
>> 13 inch
>> notebook.
>>
>> I am happy to report, that today I was successful in performing a
>> clean
>> install of Snow Leopard after first removing Leopard.  I also added  
>> an
>> additional 2 gigs of RAM to the notebook for a total of 4 gigs.
>>
>> Aside from keeping careful track of the 10 screws that must be
>> removed in
>> order to install the RAM, the upgrade procedure was fairly
>> painless.  Note,
>> if any of you wish to upgrade your RAM, be sure to take note of the
>> fact
>> that there are different size screws that must be replaced
>> correctly.  I
>> swear, I've never seen such short little screws in my entire life.
>> (Smile)
>>
>>
>> I must say that the synergy between Snow Leopard and the iPhone 3GS
>> via the
>> new multi-touch track pad is amazing.  In fact, I can't seem to wipe
>> this
>> grin off of my face as I continue to explore this "brave new world."
>>
>> Anyway, I am glad to be on board and am looking forward to exchanging
>> information with you.
>>
>> Most Sincerely,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
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>
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Re: playing avi files in quicktime

2009-08-30 Thread Jessi and Goldina
I'm not sure that quicktime does. I usually use vlc media player to  
play my avi files. it works great.
On 30-Aug-09, at 11:00 AM, a radix wrote:

> Hello, i am trying to play an avi file in quicktime but dont hear a  
> sound, doesnt quicktime support this filetype?
> Greetings, Anouk
>
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Re: Snowleopard, Safari, and Voiceover

2009-08-30 Thread Jessi and Goldina

hmm, this is odd. cuz didn't it say somewhere that VO was supposed to  
act faster on webpages with lots of content? strange it's the opposite?
On 30-Aug-09, at 1:52 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:

>
> Using Google, I have always had 100 search results per page and it
> worked just fine with vo and leopard.  Now, anything over 10 and vo
> navigation slows to a crawl.  I'm referring to moving around with the
> vo cursor.  I consider it bairly usable with 10.  I'm using group.
> This tells me that any web page with a lot of content will have series
> problems using vo.  I was wondering if anybody else can confirm this.
>
>
> I also want to confirm the choppy speech in mail, but I've also
> noticed it everywhere.  It seems to be most noticeable in mail  
> however.
>
> Thanks.
>
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gmail and sl? and importing addressbook contacts?

2009-09-01 Thread Jessi and Goldina

hey guys!!

this is the first real email i've sent using sl that wasn't a test,  
lol. yay! installation went well, I recorded my adventures if anyone  
wants to hear, lol. I'm really happy over all, the new web stuff loos  
great! it's much more snappy!

but gmail isn't working so hot. I set it up with all the settings  
suggested on gmail's website. I've tried both pop and imap. I've  
removed and re-added the accounts several times. all the settings are  
as they should be. right now I have it set as imap, and one of my two  
gmail accounts downloads messages fine, which is the one this list  
uses, but my one I use for personal emails doesn't receive at all. and  
when this list mail one downloads, it seems to download several copies  
of the same message. I really wish I could use pop, I'm more familiar  
with it, but it didn't work at all.
so I ran out of ideas! pop seems to be broken in mail 4.0 and sl  
unless anyone has any suggestions for making it work properly?I'd just  
really like to be able to recrive and send messages from both my  
accounts like I could before. has anyone had any of these problems and  
gotten gmail to work successfully?

also, before Installed sl, I copied my user folder from leopard onto  
my external hard drive so I'd be able to do a clean install. turns out  
I wasn't able to copy it back cuz the drive was formatted for windows,  
I used it with my old windows computers before I switched. I didn't  
know this would be an issue, but I got around it by copying my  
documents and downloads folders, where most of my data was stored, to  
the new user account in sl. but how do I get my addresses back?

thanks for all your help. these few little things are making sl a  
little bit of a less enjoyable experience.
Jessi and Goldina

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getting old addressbook contacts back?

2009-09-01 Thread Jessi and Goldina

hey guys

I know I asked this last night with my gmail message, but I'm not sure  
if that message went through and now my gmail issues seem to be fixed  
knock on wood!!

so my next issue, I'm trying to get all my addressbook contacts back.  
before I installed SL I copied my old leopard user folder to my  
external drive thinking I'd just be able to import it all back in  
during the SL setup process. unfortunately I couldn't do this cuz the  
drive was formatted for windows, and I didn't know that would make a  
difference but clearly it did. so I got around it by just copying all  
my data over into the correct folders in the new user folder on sl.  
but now I wanna get my old addressbook contacts back. I'd like to get  
my old emails back too, but I'll start with addressbook contacts. how  
would I go about doing this? I assume it's possible, cuz if you can  
get stuff off a pc onto a mac then you must be able to import stuff  
from a drive that's formatted for windows.

thanks.
Jessi and Goldina

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Re: brailledispaly does not display all text

2009-09-01 Thread Jessi and Goldina

hmmm, I don't know why this would be, but maybe try interacting with  
the table and then seeing if it shows up on your display?
On 2009-09-01, at 2:03 PM, anouk radix wrote:

>
> Hello all, i just wanted to check my sent items but if i hit tab from
> the main list of folders to go to the list of messages and then either
> arrow up/down or vo up/down there is nothing displayed on my braille
> display, if i use speech it reads normally. This does not happen in
> the inbox so I am not sure what is going on.
> Greetings, Anouk
>
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Re: reading help tags manuallly?

2009-09-02 Thread Jessi and Goldina

yep, you can do this now with VO shift h.
On 2009-09-02, at 12:03 AM, anouk radix wrote:

>
> Hi, i think in leopard this was done via vo-h but this now brings up
> the vo help menu. Is it still possible to read help tags manually?
> Greetings, Anouk
>
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copying text from mail?

2009-09-02 Thread Jessi and Goldina

hey guys,

has the commands for copying text out of mail changed? I noticed that  
I can no longer turn selection mode on, select something and copy it  
in SL?

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Re: copying text from mail?

2009-09-02 Thread Jessi and Goldina

hmm. I never had it in leopard, I dunno what causes it. it's weird!!  
maybe the way emails are formatted or something?
On 2009-09-02, at 4:31 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

>
> Hello;  I occasionally have that problem with mail in regular lepard,
> and i can usually get around it by clicking reply and then selecting
> text from the edit field.  After i do my cut and paste, I close the
> draft and press don't save.  Hope that helps, Max
> On Sep 2, 2009, at 4:53 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote:
>
>>
>> hey guys,
>>
>> has the commands for copying text out of mail changed? I noticed that
>> I can no longer turn selection mode on, select something and copy it
>> in SL?
>>
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Re: Snow leopard clean install and restoring home folder from time machine

2009-09-03 Thread Jessi and Goldina

be careful though, if your drive if for whatever reason formatted for  
windows, there doesn't seem to be a way to import your data back  
without manually copying and pasting the folders. this is my dilemma  
right now! still trying to get stuff back.
On 2009-09-03, at 2:40 AM, John JD Denning wrote:

>
> Yes that is true. You can choose time Machine or a vackup.  I have
> done three like that now. Woorked great.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 3, 2009, at 5:14, Simon Cavendish
>  wrote:
>
>>
>> When I was listening to Mike Arigo's podcast on Installing SL from
>> scratch, having eraseed the hard drive, there seemed to be an option
>> during the installation to retrieve one's home folder from Time
>> Machine. Is it true? Does that mean that during the installation you
>> can choose this option and copy back into Snow Leopard your home
>> folder with all your applications and other files? Canit be safely
>> done with voiceover and wirelessly? It's probably a dumb question  
>> from
>> a lay person but any info would be appreciated. I have my Time  
>> Machine
>> backing up my data regularly. Otherwise if you wanted to do a clean
>> install, how would you bring all your personal folder data back
>> without having to reinstall all your applications yet again?
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>>
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Re: male in snowleopard and gmail

2009-09-04 Thread Jessi and Goldina

I was definitely having major gmail issues when I first installed SL  
and I tried so many things that I'm not sure how they finally got  
fixed, lol. my issues were that I could send mail fine, but I'd set up  
my two accounts in mail and one would receive and the other wouldn't.  
I think what I ended up doing that fixed it was I deleted the "mail"  
folder out of my library and then reloaded mail, and it looked like  
I'd never launched it before. then I put both accounts back in and  
made sure all the settings and port numbers were correct and they  
eventually worked. it was quite a process though!! I hope you can get  
yours fixed!!
Jessi and Goldina
On 2009-09-04, at 8:11 AM, matthew Campbell wrote:

>
> Hi list I'm now running snowleopard and I've just upgraded my
> accounts. They aren't working.
> I've tried re adding them but nothing works.
> Is anyone else having issues with gmail and apple male 4?
> Any help would be awesome.
>
> >


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no longer able to find search results with mobile facebook?

2009-09-05 Thread Jessi and Goldina

hey guys

I'm not sure if this is a facebook change or an sl change, but I just  
tried to search for and add a friend on facebook with the mobile site.  
it said it showed two search results, but wouldn't let me see them. so  
I went to the regular facebook site and did the same search and was  
this time able to find my friend when I clicked add as friend link,  
voiceover didn't do anything though. I tried several times and still  
nothing. I hope I didn't just try to add them a bunch of times, I'll  
feel real silly then lol!!

but has something changed on the mobiel site where you can no longer  
actually see our search results or is this a bug in SL accessibility?
thanks
Jessi and Goldina

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facebook?

2009-09-06 Thread Jessi and Goldina

hey guys

dunno if my messages are getting through, I never get any responses  
lol. I don't get any failure to send, but still.

anyone know why I can't search the facebook mobile site? it'll say it  
found results, but then there's nowhere to see the results. is this a  
change to facebook or to how it looks in sl? is there something  
different I have to do to search the facebook mobile site? or is no  
one else having this problem?

thanks.
Jessi and Goldina

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Re: status, name, etc?

2009-09-08 Thread Jessi and Goldina

hey Will, I recorded a podcast type thing about changing the way links  
are read in safari, changing the order of the content, status, type,  
etc. I only did it with the links, but I'm sure it would be similar in  
the other verbosity options in that table. I can send it to you off  
list if you want.
On 2009-09-08, at 6:32 AM, william lomas wrote:

>
>   hi the voice over help does not seem to be clear on all 
> the new
> verbosity options in snowleopard particularly about the customizing
> what we hear for different elements, such as state then name etc. or
> is it just me?
> Will
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Re: getting an individuals email address

2009-09-09 Thread Jessi and Goldina

hmm, this doesn't seem to work in snow leopard. I've just been trying  
to read the email address and remember what it is, but there has to be  
an easier way in sl!
On 2009-09-09, at 2:22 AM, Christina wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I miss the menu button.  However, if you select the text with the  
> name/
> e-mail address in the from area then you can use vo plus shift plus
> m.  At least that worked for me.  I do not know of an easier way to
> select the text other than to use vo plus enter to start highlighting/
> selecting the text then using vo plus enter to end selecting the
> text.  Then you can use vo plus shift plus m.
>
> I hope that helps.
>
> Christina
> On Sep 8, 2009, at 7:30 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:
>
>>
>> Interact with the message content area and move the vo cursor over  
>> the
>> message headers and enter act with it.  Or,
>> if you are reading a message, stop interacting with the body text and
>> move vo up to the headers.
>> In leopard, vo saw the address as a menu button.  I've just noticed
>> that now it doesn't.  Nor does vo-space, or vo-shft-m work on it.   
>> Now
>> you have to route the mouse to the address and shft-click to get the
>> menu.
>> On Sep 8, 2009, at 7:21 PM, anouk radix wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello, not sure if this has been covered before, but i would like to
>>> get a persons emal address who posts to the macvisionarie slist, i
>>> nwindows you can do this by standing on the name and then getting  
>>> the
>>> ctrl-f10 menu and doing settings. Can i do this on the mac?
>>> Greetings, Anouk
>>>

>>
>>
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Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Apple Media Event 9/9/09

2009-09-09 Thread Jessi and Goldina

I dunno why everyone is talking about voiceover on the nano as if it's  
a new thing lol. I wonder what upgrades are made to voiceover on the  
nano?
On 2009-09-09, at 2:13 PM, Maccessibility wrote:

>
> Apple Media Event 9/9/09
>
> Today, Apple announced details of iPhone OS 3.1, iTunes 9, and new  
> models in
> their iPod lineups.
> The iPhone OS 3.1 details are scarce as yet, but the update includes  
> pre-cut
> ring tones from the major record labels.
> iTunes 9, the latest version of Apple's popular media management  
> software,
> comes with a plethora of new features, including [...]
>
> You can read the rest of this news item at:
> http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/09/09/apple-media-event-9909/
>
> The Mac-cessibility Network
> "...it's all within our reach..."
> http://maccessibility.net
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Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Apple Media Event 9/9/09

2009-09-09 Thread Jessi and Goldina

oh, okay. I gotcha. the nano has a built in TTS engine. what voice is  
it? I suspect it's the same one as on the iPhone? and then the  
international ones are probably the same as the shuffle? that's really  
cool!! I'd really like to see one of these! i'm curious how the video  
camera fits in cuz the unit is already so small!!
On 2009-09-09, at 2:25 PM, Esther wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I imagine since they said it would be like on the Shuffle, there will
> be international voices included.  Also, although the Mac-cessibility
> News didn't mention it, along with the video recording camera and
> voice recording with built in mic, the new nano is supposed to have FM
> radio.
>
> from the ilounge live coverage page on the new Nanos:
> 
> 10:58 AM: One more thing... Video camera. YouTube now has 1b video
> streams a day. They're being created by Flip Video, he shows... Flip
> sells a 4GB model for $149. Apple wants in on the market. 8GB - you
> get it for "Free" by adding it to the iPod nano. New nano is glossy.
> Looks just like the pictures we posted months ago on iLounge. Speaker
> now built in as well. Retained the small size - 6.2mm. Now good is it?
> Video looks a lot like iPhone 3GS video. The nano pictures are on our
> Flickr account. (See link above.) One click to send to YouTube from a
> computer. Looks to be 640x480. Nano's screen is now wide. 100 million
> units sold. By far the most popular music player in the world.
> VoiceOver is in there, "same as the iPod shuffle," plus Genius Mixes.
> Now will have an FM radio built in. And voice recorder app is built in
> with built-in mik, plus built-in pedometer. You can now sync up to  
> Nike
> + with your pedometer data. Larger 2.2 display. Polished anodized
> aluminum.
> 
>
> No word on whether VoiceOver is in the new iPod Touch models, although
> I suspect it is.  And apparently no video camera for the Touch.  At
> least nothing mentioned.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
> Jessi and Goldina wrote:
>
>>
>> I dunno why everyone is talking about voiceover on the nano as if  
>> it's
>> a new thing lol. I wonder what upgrades are made to voiceover on the
>> nano?
>> On 2009-09-09, at 2:13 PM, Maccessibility wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Apple Media Event 9/9/09
>>>
>>> Today, Apple announced details of iPhone OS 3.1, iTunes 9, and new
>>> models in
>>> their iPod lineups.
>>> The iPhone OS 3.1 details are scarce as yet, but the update includes
>>> pre-cut
>>> ring tones from the major record labels.
>>> iTunes 9, the latest version of Apple's popular media management
>>> software,
>>> comes with a plethora of new features, including [...]
>>>
>>> You can read the rest of this news item at:
>>> http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/09/09/apple-media-event-9909/
>>>
>>> The Mac-cessibility Network
>>> "...it's all within our reach..."
>>> http://maccessibility.net
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
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Re: getting an individuals email address

2009-09-09 Thread Jessi and Goldina

thanks!! :) I'm so glad I know how to do this again!! yay!!!
On 2009-09-09, at 11:55 AM, John André Netland wrote:

>
> Hi Jessi,
>
> If you focus on the header, interact with it and focus on the from
> address, and press VO-shift-space, you will hear "menu" and can arrow
> down to copy the address etc. etc. Just remember to route the mouse to
> your VO cursor with VO-command-F5 before you click, since I suppose
> you have set mouse cursor to ignore VO cursor to avoid the sub menu
> issue.
>
> I tested this with a message from you now, and it works just fine in  
> SL.
>
> Take care,
> John André
>
>
> On 9. sep. 2009, at 14.41, Jessi and Goldina wrote:
>
>>
>> hmm, this doesn't seem to work in snow leopard. I've just been trying
>> to read the email address and remember what it is, but there has to  
>> be
>> an easier way in sl!
>> On 2009-09-09, at 2:22 AM, Christina wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I miss the menu button.  However, if you select the text with the
>>> name/
>>> e-mail address in the from area then you can use vo plus shift plus
>>> m.  At least that worked for me.  I do not know of an easier way to
>>> select the text other than to use vo plus enter to start
>>> highlighting/
>>> selecting the text then using vo plus enter to end selecting the
>>> text.  Then you can use vo plus shift plus m.
>>>
>>> I hope that helps.
>>>
>>> Christina
>>> On Sep 8, 2009, at 7:30 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Interact with the message content area and move the vo cursor over
>>>> the
>>>> message headers and enter act with it.  Or,
>>>> if you are reading a message, stop interacting with the body text
>>>> and
>>>> move vo up to the headers.
>>>> In leopard, vo saw the address as a menu button.  I've just noticed
>>>> that now it doesn't.  Nor does vo-space, or vo-shft-m work on it.
>>>> Now
>>>> you have to route the mouse to the address and shft-click to get  
>>>> the
>>>> menu.
>>>> On Sep 8, 2009, at 7:21 PM, anouk radix wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello, not sure if this has been covered before, but i would like
>>>>> to
>>>>> get a persons emal address who posts to the macvisionarie slist, i
>>>>> nwindows you can do this by standing on the name and then getting
>>>>> the
>>>>> ctrl-f10 menu and doing settings. Can i do this on the mac?
>>>>> Greetings, Anouk
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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itunes busy when skipping through songs?

2009-09-09 Thread Jessi and Goldina

hey guys

noticed a little thing with iTunes nine. when I try to skip quickly  
through my library, iTunes seems to be busy for a few seconds before  
skipping through to the next song. it's not a huge deal, but kind of  
annoying when skipping through songs! anyone else notice this?

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previewing songs in the itunes store?

2009-09-09 Thread Jessi and Goldina

hey guys
another itunes nine bug, they seem to have broken the ability to  
preview songs in the store!! there's an image there if you look down  
the store page, it's before each song and it says preview, but if you  
VO space on it or interact with it and then VO space or press enter,  
nothing seems to work to activate those! so I'm not sure how you'd go  
about previewing something!! anyone else noticing this?

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Re: previewing songs in the itunes store?

2009-09-09 Thread Jessi and Goldina

oh. pressing enter where? cuz I pressed on the song title and it  
didn't do anything. I miss the old songs table!!
On 2009-09-09, at 9:04 PM, John André Netland wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> REcently, pressing enter or play will preview the song. The image is
> just to tell you there is only a preview available until you have paid
> for the song YaY!
> It's only rock & roll you know. ;-)
>
> Take care,
> John André
>
>
> On 9. sep. 2009, at 23.32, Jessi and Goldina wrote:
>
>>
>> hey guys
>> another itunes nine bug, they seem to have broken the ability to
>> preview songs in the store!! there's an image there if you look down
>> the store page, it's before each song and it says preview, but if you
>> VO space on it or interact with it and then VO space or press enter,
>> nothing seems to work to activate those! so I'm not sure how you'd go
>> about previewing something!! anyone else noticing this?
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: previewing songs in the itunes store?

2009-09-09 Thread Jessi and Goldina

I didn't even find the table of songs. I thought they got rid of it!!
On 2009-09-09, at 9:47 PM, Scott Rutkowski wrote:

>
> Hi there.
>
> Do a vo shift space on the preview immage and the preview actually  
> will
> play.
>
> I hope people email
> accessibil...@apple.com
> when they find bugs.
>
> Another interesting bug is when you find the table of songs on an  
> album and
> you can't interact with the table to vo up and down it and navigate  
> the
> table like in itunes 8.21.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jessi and Goldina" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 7:32 AM
> Subject: previewing songs in the itunes store?
>
>
>>
>> hey guys
>> another itunes nine bug, they seem to have broken the ability to
>> preview songs in the store!! there's an image there if you look down
>> the store page, it's before each song and it says preview, but if you
>> VO space on it or interact with it and then VO space or press enter,
>> nothing seems to work to activate those! so I'm not sure how you'd go
>> about previewing something!! anyone else noticing this?
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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sharing itunes on twitter and facebook?

2009-09-09 Thread Jessi and Goldina

is this new feature in itunes nine accessible? I was talking to  
someone tonight who uses a pc with itunes, and they were playing with  
the store and jaws was speaking links to share findings on the store  
on twitter and facebook. I didn't see this option on the mac side, but  
I assume it's there somewhere? on the pc version it was on the main  
store page with the albums, but is it somewhere else on the mac  
version? or do we not have access to it?it just looks like a cool  
feature.

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Re: sharing itunes on twitter and facebook?

2009-09-10 Thread Jessi and Goldina

thanks, glad it's not just me!! I'll email them and let them know  
about it.
On 2009-09-10, at 4:45 AM, Scott Rutkowski wrote:

>
> Hi there.
>
> From what I read in the help file near the buy album button there's  
> meant to
> be an arrow or dropdown that lets you choose to send the album info to
> twitter or facebook.
> I myself can't find the feature either so we should email
> accessibil...@apple.com
> and let them know the feature can't be used.
>
> If anyone has anymore info on this feature and gets it working,  
> please let
> us all know.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jessi and Goldina" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 1:12 PM
> Subject: sharing itunes on twitter and facebook?
>
>
>>
>> is this new feature in itunes nine accessible? I was talking to
>> someone tonight who uses a pc with itunes, and they were playing with
>> the store and jaws was speaking links to share findings on the store
>> on twitter and facebook. I didn't see this option on the mac side,  
>> but
>> I assume it's there somewhere? on the pc version it was on the main
>> store page with the albums, but is it somewhere else on the mac
>> version? or do we not have access to it?it just looks like a cool
>> feature.
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: so slow

2009-09-10 Thread Jessi and Goldina

I find voiceover to be a tad bit more sluggish when arrowing through  
when quicknav is on, but maybe that's just cuz my mac only has a gig  
of ram. I'm not sure why quicknav would make a difference, and really  
it's only like a milisecond slower, but I notice it. other than that I  
don't find it slow.
On 2009-09-10, at 12:31 PM, william lomas wrote:

>
>   hi why is voiceover so damn slow now when arrowing through mail
> messages?
> I may go back to leopard it is so painstakingly clumsy at navigating
> with the usual arrow keys through characters in a message
>
>
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Re: VoiceOver on the Nano: TTS or not?

2009-09-10 Thread Jessi and Goldina

yeah, I heard that rumour about the duel core processors too. I'd  
wait! as much as I want an iPhone, I'm thinking I'll just wait til  
next year's WWDC and see what the next one has to offer. if it has a  
duel core processor, that means it might possibly be able to run Alex?  
maybe? and that would be sweet!! I don't plan to upgrade my nano to a  
new one...it would be nice to play with the new one and the video  
camera and recording options and full voiceover would be nice, but my  
old one works well. I'd love to play with the new ones though!!
On 2009-09-10, at 2:45 AM, Dave Wright wrote:

>
> Regardless,
> There doesn't seem to be feature changes big enough to warrant me  
> upgrading
> from my current Nano. If anything, I'm looking forward to upgrading  
> to an
> iPod touch. Hard to say though as I could see a version of the touch  
> or
> iPhone coming out soon enough with a duo core processor. Should I  
> wait???
>
>
> Best Regards:
> Dave Wright
> Work Phone: 347-422-7085
> Email:
> dwri...@gmail.com
> WebPage:
> http://www.knfbreader.com
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Scott Chesworth" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 7:34 PM
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver on the Nano: TTS or not?
>
>
>>
>> Sorry for the prelific posts!
>> Just wanted to give a quick update for anybody who'd read the  
>> previous
>> messages and been disheartened.  According to accessibil...@apple.com
>> we're actually looking at the VoiceOver Kit generating and syncing
>> song artist and titles as on the previous Nano and the current
>> Shuffles, but TTS for spoken menues.
>>
>> That's good news peeps, thought I'd pass it along!
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On 9/10/09, Scott Chesworth  wrote:
>>> It does indeed Blake. I also found a line on the tech specs page  
>>> that
>>> said something along the lines of "spoken thingies read almost all
>>> menu items" blah blah blah.  Between the two of those I'm 99% sure
>>> we're not dealing with a TTS Nano just yet.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On 9/10/09, Blake Sinnett  wrote:

 Sounds like it works in the same way as the Shuffle.

> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 01:01:02 +0100
> Subject: VoiceOver on the Nano: TTS or not?
> From: scottcheswo...@gmail.com
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Just went to take a peak at the new iPod line on the UK Apple  
> site,
> and found this on the Nano page that got me curious:
>
> "It all begins with iTunes and its seamless integration with iPod
> nano. First, iTunes reads your song information, then uses the
> VoiceOver Kit to generate the announcements for the songs,  
> artists and
> playlists. Just sync your iPod nano to your computer and it really
> speaks to you."
>
> It got me wondering, are we looking at actual TTs on the Nano  
> here or
> not? There's nothing in the promotional blurb to suggest to me  
> that
> VO is doing much new in this revision, but I'd love to be  
> corrected.
>
> Not meant in a negative way at all, I appreciate the awesomeness  
> of VO
> coming to the touch, just trying to make an educated decision on a
> budget.
>
> Cheers
> Scott
>
>>

>>

>>>
>>
>>>
>
>
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timezone weirdness

2009-09-10 Thread Jessi and Goldina

hey guys

when I first installed SL, I was able to change the time to PST and  
pick the city I lived in and it was all good. I changed the checkbox  
so it would change time time zone automaticly figuring if I were to  
travel somewhere that might be nice. recently I've moved back to  
vancouver island where I go to school. it's in the same time zone,  
still PST, but for some reason the mac thinks I'm on eastern time in  
sunrise, Florida! I live miles and miles away from Florida, lol. I  
manually set the time back to the correct time in pst, but all my  
emails and stuff still show up as if they're coming in on EST and if I  
go into the time preferences, it still shows my city as sunrise, fl  
and my timezone as EST and there doesn't seem to be a way to change it.

anyone else's timezones just take on a mind of their own and decide  
you live somewhere on a completely different coast than you actually  
do? lol. is there a way to change it? I unchecked the checkbox about  
automaticly changing time based on your location but it still doesn't  
show anywhere close to my area on the little time map!!

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Re: garbage in address book

2009-09-11 Thread Jessi and Goldina

how did you import your contacts over? I'm still trying to figure that  
out lol.
On 2009-09-11, at 12:04 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> When I imported my contacts over from my PC, I used VCards.  Now, as
> I'm looking in the address book, I noticed that there are these lines
> of XML junk characters presumably inserted By Windows.  Anyone know
> how I can get rid of this stuff?
> Thanks,
> Donna
>
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Re: work-around for finding the artist you want

2009-09-11 Thread Jessi and Goldina

yeah I know. the new itunes kinda leaves a lot to be desired!! I want  
the old version back too!!
On 2009-09-11, at 3:54 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:

>
> So it's not just me, and I'm not just crazy?  In the version of Itunes
> before this, all I had to do was tab into the browser, to the field I
> wanted, hit the first few letters, use plain down or up arrows to do
> the fine tuning.  I don't see this as being more VO friendly, and I
> want my old version back! :(
>
>
> Mark BurningHawk Baxter
>
> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
> MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
> My home page:
> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>
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Re: garbage in address book

2009-09-11 Thread Jessi and Goldina

thanks. I'm not actually trying to get them off a pc itself, just a  
windows formatted drive. when mail automaticly adds an address so it  
autofills when you type, does it add it to addressbook or to somewhere  
within mail? cuz I found a few of my old contacts, I guess ones I  
manually added myself, but not ones mail auto-added. I think those  
ones might just be missing forever, but I hope not!!
On 2009-09-11, at 3:12 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I installed Thunderbird on my Windows machine, imported all my mail
> into it, then copied the folder containing the mail to my Mac and used
> its import options to import from thunderbird. I did more or less the
> same thing with my address book, but there was an additional step of
> saving the address book to a different format before importing it into
> Mail. I can't remember what format it was, unfortunately. I followed
> the steps in David Pogue's Switching to the Mac: The Missing Manual,
> available from Bookshare.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
> >


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Re: VO+f8 doesn't work after upgrade to SnowLeopard

2009-09-13 Thread Jessi and Goldina
hey, you have to go into system preferences and then select keyboard.  
then there's a checkbox that says "use all f1, f2 etc as standard  
function keys" or something to that effect, make sure that checkbox is  
checked. then you'll be able to use your VO f8 as you normally would.
On 2009-09-13, at 12:46 AM, Daniel K. Gartmann wrote:

>
>
> Hi,
>
> Well, the subject says it all. Nothing happens when I press VO+f8.
>
> Is it possible in SL to reassign the key combination VO+f8 to start  
> VoiceOver, or do I need to make a clean install? I did an upgrade  
> install.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Daniel
>
>
> >


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Re: Message headers and voiceover

2009-09-13 Thread Jessi and Goldina

funny, I was just discussing this with another list member. in order  
to bring up that menu you now have to turn selection mode on, select  
the email address, turn selection mode off and then you can go to the  
contextual menu with all the options in it.
On 2009-09-13, at 3:18 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote:

>
> Dear Has anyone noticed that if you go to the message headers under
> Snow Leopard, you no longer have buttons wiht senders e-mail addresses
> which you can activate with vo+spacebar and choose what you wish to do
> with them? Is there another way of doing so? I used to love this
> feature. I can't seem to interact with the headers much either and
> read the information letter by letter. Am I missing someting?
>
> With best, Simon
>
> >


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podcasts on your iPod?

2009-09-13 Thread Jessi and Goldina

hey guys

do any of you use your iPod to listen to podcasts? I decided I'd like  
some of mine to be synced to there so I can listen to them when I'm on  
the go but I can't figure out how to only select certain ones. right  
now I've got it set to put all of them on, and there are some that I  
care aboutmore than others and don't really want all of them. how do I  
only select certain ones? and is there a way to have the iPod  
automaticly delete them once they've been played or do I have to do  
that manually? if so, is there a way to get to them faster in the iPod  
playlist in iTunes?

thanks
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Re: podcasts on your iPod?

2009-09-13 Thread Jessi and Goldina

hey, thanks!! I really appreciate this, you're the only person who  
ever respnds to me lol. where are the checkboxes? I only see a table  
with them all in. not sure how to select and deslect them!
On 2009-09-13, at 5:31 PM, John André Netland wrote:

>
> Hi Jessi,
>
> There is selections for both of your questions in the setup area in
> iTunes for the iPHone/iPOd. There is a list of the podcasts you are
> subscribed to, and you can check/uncheck as you like, and select for
> example only to sync the most recent/newest podcast episodes you still
> have not heard to be synced. As a result, the episodes you have heard
> will be deleted, and your unit will always have new and fresh episodes
> that you have not heard to be ready to play...
>
> HOpe this helps, and take care,
> John André
>
>
> On 14. sep. 2009, at 01.52, Jessi and Goldina wrote:
>
>>
>> hey guys
>>
>> do any of you use your iPod to listen to podcasts? I decided I'd like
>> some of mine to be synced to there so I can listen to them when I'm  
>> on
>> the go but I can't figure out how to only select certain ones. right
>> now I've got it set to put all of them on, and there are some that I
>> care aboutmore than others and don't really want all of them. how  
>> do I
>> only select certain ones? and is there a way to have the iPod
>> automaticly delete them once they've been played or do I have to do
>> that manually? if so, is there a way to get to them faster in the  
>> iPod
>> playlist in iTunes?
>>
>> thanks
>> Jessi and Goldina
>>
>>>
>
>
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Re: podcasts on your iPod?

2009-09-13 Thread Jessi and Goldina

ooh, thanks!! I didn't realize you had to interact with each  
individual podcast in the table in order to see the other columns and  
change the checkboxes! I got it set up now...thanks!!
On 2009-09-13, at 7:43 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> When you connect your iPod, choose Podcasts in the Settings area.
> Press VO-Right Arrow until you reach a pop-up menu called Sync, and
> choose All Unplayed. That way, when you finish playing a podcast, it
> will be deleted the next time you sync  your iPOd with your computer.
> The next control or controls, depending which version of iTunes you
> have, let you choose between syncing all podcasts or selected
> podcasts. If you choose Selected Podcasts, you then come to a table
> where all your podcasts are listed. Check the ones you want to sync
> and uncheck the rest. Then VO-Right Arrow to Apply, and all should
> work as you want.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
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Re: Snow Leopard and Itunes 9

2009-09-13 Thread Jessi and Goldina

the beloved songs table is no more. if you cary on further down the  
html page you will see the songs in a table, but there is no songs  
table. good luck with iTunes nine, I've been fighting with it since I  
upgraded lol. g.
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>
> Hi to the list.
>
> I am really confused about how to purchase a song using Itunes 9.
> I type a title into the search field, no problem.
>
> Hit Enter.
>
> I can find the HTML portion of the Itunes store without difficulty
> containing all of the albums with the particular song, but the songs
> table listing individual songs is simply missing, pressing VO right
> arrow simply is showing no song table at all.
>
> Any hints about where the heck is the songs table would sure be
> helpful, and thanks a lot.
>
>
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Re: podcasts on your iPod?

2009-09-14 Thread Jessi and Goldina

thanks, it did!! my iPod and I are friends again!!! :)

when are you on skype? I never see you on! I still think it would be  
awesome to chat.
On 2009-09-14, at 12:36 AM, John André Netland wrote:

>
> If you interact with the list and press VO-space on the item you are
> focused on, the check status should change.
>
> Hope this helps,
> John André
>
>
> On 14. sep. 2009, at 03.56, Jessi and Goldina wrote:
>
>>
>> hey, thanks!! I really appreciate this, you're the only person who
>> ever respnds to me lol. where are the checkboxes? I only see a table
>> with them all in. not sure how to select and deslect them!
>> On 2009-09-13, at 5:31 PM, John André Netland wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Jessi,
>>>
>>> There is selections for both of your questions in the setup area in
>>> iTunes for the iPHone/iPOd. There is a list of the podcasts you are
>>> subscribed to, and you can check/uncheck as you like, and select for
>>> example only to sync the most recent/newest podcast episodes you
>>> still
>>> have not heard to be synced. As a result, the episodes you have  
>>> heard
>>> will be deleted, and your unit will always have new and fresh
>>> episodes
>>> that you have not heard to be ready to play...
>>>
>>> HOpe this helps, and take care,
>>> John André
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14. sep. 2009, at 01.52, Jessi and Goldina wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> hey guys
>>>>
>>>> do any of you use your iPod to listen to podcasts? I decided I'd
>>>> like
>>>> some of mine to be synced to there so I can listen to them when I'm
>>>> on
>>>> the go but I can't figure out how to only select certain ones.  
>>>> right
>>>> now I've got it set to put all of them on, and there are some  
>>>> that I
>>>> care aboutmore than others and don't really want all of them. how
>>>> do I
>>>> only select certain ones? and is there a way to have the iPod
>>>> automaticly delete them once they've been played or do I have to do
>>>> that manually? if so, is there a way to get to them faster in the
>>>> iPod
>>>> playlist in iTunes?
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>> Jessi and Goldina
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
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>
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Re: moving items to doc

2009-09-16 Thread Jessi and Goldina
hey May,
when text edit is running, it will show up in the dock as running. to  
keep it there, go to your dock, find it and do VO shift m to bring up  
the contextual menu.. in there you'll find keep in dock. click that  
and text edit will always be in your dock.
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> Hi everyone.
>
> How do I move things to the doc?  I would like to move text edit  
> there, thanks.
>
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Re: Problems selecting text in E Mails

2009-09-17 Thread Jessi and Goldina

yep, I have this problem too. I think it's a bug in sl!
On 2009-09-17, at 12:05 PM, James & Nash wrote:

>
> Hi list,
>
> Has anyone had any problems selecting text in E Mails with the VO
> Selection Command VO Enter? I could not select any text in an E Mail I
> need to take some info from. In the end, I saved the message into Text
> Edit so I'll deal with it rom that.
>
> Thanks
>
> Take care
>
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Re: SnowLeopard and the Dock

2009-09-18 Thread Jessi and Goldina
hey,
to add items to your dock in sl you have to arrow down to the options  
submenu and in there there will be a keep in dock option. it's a bit  
hidden now but still there!
On 2009-09-18, at 11:42 PM, Mitchell Smith wrote:

> Hi,
>
> A feature that I frequently used in Leopard seems to no longer be  
> available in SnowLeopard.
>
> I like to put commonly used applications in the Dock for quick  
> access, for me this means things like Adium, Terminal and VMWare  
> Fusion.
>
> In Leopard after launching an app I used to be able to down-arrow on  
> it's dock item and select Keep in Dock or Open at Logon, however I  
> no longer seem to be able to do this.
>
> I have noticed for pre-existing Dock items such as Photo Booth I can  
> up-arrow on them and under options I can select Remove from Dock,  
> however up-arrow doesn't seem to do anything on newly opened  
> applications.
>
> Has anyone found a work around for this yet?
>
> Thanks for any suggestions.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mitch
>
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Re: hey guys new mac user

2009-09-21 Thread Jessi and Goldina

woohoo, this is good news!! enjoy and don't hesitate to ask questions,  
that's what we're here for!!! welcome to the wonderful world of mac!!  
you're gonna love it and wonder how you ever got by with a pc before!  
the mac experience is so different and so rich, it's wonderful!!
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>
> hey guys i am a new mac user i get my new mac book pro 13 inch today i
> cannot wait  i will probly be needing help so hope u guys can help and
> a shot out to the screenless switchers  all five of you help me decide
> to toss windows and go mac thanks
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Re: hey its here

2009-09-22 Thread Jessi and Goldina

yay! congrats! there are many great resources. you mentioned the  
screenless switchers, they are definitely one. Mike Arigo also does a  
really great mac podcast series on www.blindcooltech.com and there is  
also www.maccessibility.net and www.lioncourt.com which are great as  
well.and of course this list!
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> hey everyone it is here  i am very happy a bit nurvous about doing
> things on it  since this is my first mac  well going to be calling for
> help help help so you guys just help me out i  thank you
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audio books in mp3 format?

2009-09-23 Thread Jessi and Goldina

hey guys

I have an audio book in mp3 format that someone sent me. I imported it  
into iTunes and it shows up with all my other music. is there a way to  
put it with my other audio books? all the ones I get from audible show  
up in the audio books playlist and I want this one to show up there  
too. also, is there a way to have my mac and iPod remember my place in  
the book like it does with the audible ones?
thanks.
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Re: audio books in mp3 format?

2009-09-23 Thread Jessi and Goldina

thanks, Esther!!! you sure know your stuff! this is great!!
On 2009-09-23, at 1:38 AM, Esther wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> To have your mp3 audiobook show up under audiobooks instead of music,
> select all tracks and use "Get Info" (Command-I) to edit.  iTunes will
> ask whether you really want to edit multiple tracks. Just press return
> to indicate that you do.  In the Multple Item information window, VO-
> Right arrow to the "Options" tab and press (VO-Space).  Then navigate
> (VO-Right arrow) to the pop up button for Media Kind and change this
> from "Music" to "Audiobook" (VO-Space and use your arrow keys).  Next,
> navigate (VO-Right arrow) to the pop up button for Remember Position
> and change this from "No"  to "Yes".  This will remember your place in
> the track.  Finally, navigate (VO-Right arrow) to the pop up button
> for Skip when shuffling and change this from "No" to "Yes".  This will
> omit your audiobook tracks from random shuffle play.  Press return (or
> navigate to the "OK" button and press it with VO-Space) to commit your
> changes.
>
> The tracks should vanish from the Music library and reappear under
> Audiobooks.  Finally, make up a smart playlist to play your book. I'm
> assuming that your mp3 files are tagged to identify the book in the
> album title and that the individual tracks are also tagged and
> ordered. Either find the "Make Smart Playlist" menu option from the
> File menu on the iTunes menu bar or use the shortcut, Command-Option-
> N. Navigate (VO-Right arrow) to the rules section and interact (VO-
> Shift-Down Arrow).  You're going to create two rules:
>   Name of your book
>   0
>  Press (VO-Space) the first pop up button and change it from "Artist"
> to "Album" (by arrowing up or by quickly typing the first few letters
> of the keyword).  VO-Right arrow  past the "contains" pop up button to
> the text field and type in the album name. (You can change the pop up
> button for "contains" to "is" if you want an exact match, but either
> should work).  At the end of the first rule, VO-Right arrow to the
> "Add" button and press it (VO-Space).  Then VO-Right arrow to the next
> rule.  Change the pop up button to "Play Count". The remaining
> arguments should read "is 0".  Stop interacting with the rules section
> and VO-Right arrow to make sure that "Live Updating" is checked (which
> it should be by default), then either press return to commit your
> changes or VO-Right arrow to the "OK" button and press it with VO-
> Space.  Then type in a name for your smart playlist.
>
> Play your audio book from your smart playlist.  As each track is
> played, it's play count will increment to 1, and the live updating
> feature will cause it to drop off the smart playlist, so that the next
> unplayed track is always at the top of the playlist.  Since iTunes
> remembers the position within your current track, your current
> position is always bookmarked.  If you want to reset your play count
> to 0, just select all tracks and use the contextual menu in the songs
> table to "Reset Play Count" and you can reuse your smart playlist.
>
> HTH
>
> Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
> Jessi and Goldina wrote:
>
>>
>> hey guys
>>
>> I have an audio book in mp3 format that someone sent me. I imported  
>> it
>> into iTunes and it shows up with all my other music. is there a way  
>> to
>> put it with my other audio books? all the ones I get from audible  
>> show
>> up in the audio books playlist and I want this one to show up there
>> too. also, is there a way to have my mac and iPod remember my place  
>> in
>> the book like it does with the audible ones?
>> thanks.
>> Jessi and Goldina
>>
>>>
>
>
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Re: hey guys help help help

2009-09-23 Thread Jessi and Goldina

hey David,
to open folders on the dock:
make sure you're on the folder you want to open
press command option shift m all at the same time to bring up the  
contextual menu
arrow down to where it says open or you can probably just press the  
letter o
press command option space
the folder should then open. then you can interact with the list and  
view the contents.

hope that helps. my skype name is canadian_diva if you wanna add me.
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> hey guys i love my mac but need help help  for some odd reason alot of
> things are not working been on the phone with apple for two hours  so
> i thought i would hit u guys up  not sure if i am allowed to give my
> skype name out but here goes  skype id is mrdigital777  feel free to
> call me if u have skype so i can get some help i be on and off of it
> today  just keep calling until u get me  hope this dont get me kicked
> from the group i love it here
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Re: hey guys help help help

2009-09-24 Thread Jessi and Goldina

gah did I say command? I meant VO...sigh lol
On 2009-09-24, at 12:00 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote:

>
> The keystrokes are vo+shift+m not command. Just thought I'd mention,
> hope you don't mind. Simon
> On 23 Sep 2009, at 23:21, Jessi and Goldina wrote:
>
>>
>> hey David,
>> to open folders on the dock:
>> make sure you're on the folder you want to open
>> press command option shift m all at the same time to bring up the
>> contextual menu
>> arrow down to where it says open or you can probably just press the
>> letter o
>> press command option space
>> the folder should then open. then you can interact with the list and
>> view the contents.
>>
>> hope that helps. my skype name is canadian_diva if you wanna add me.
>> On 2009-09-23, at 1:42 PM, David Geiger wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> hey guys i love my mac but need help help  for some odd reason alot
>>> of
>>> things are not working been on the phone with apple for two hours   
>>> so
>>> i thought i would hit u guys up  not sure if i am allowed to give my
>>> skype name out but here goes  skype id is mrdigital777  feel free to
>>> call me if u have skype so i can get some help i be on and off of it
>>> today  just keep calling until u get me  hope this dont get me  
>>> kicked
>>> from the group i love it here
>>>>
>>
>>
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Re: copying a CD

2009-09-24 Thread Jessi and Goldina

hi Anna,
when you put your cd in the drive, iTunes should come up and ask if  
you want to import it. you just VO space over to the import button and  
click it and it'll start doing it. it works really well. I'm not sure  
how to do it if you wanna put it in any program other than iTunes.
On 2009-09-24, at 9:30 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> Is there a way to copy an audio CD on the Mac with the software it
> comes with? If not, what software works well for this?
>
> Thanks,
> Anna
>
>
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Re: previews?

2009-09-25 Thread Jessi and Goldina

yes you can, at least for me, there's now a preview button beside the  
song...press enter or space or VO space or whatever you want on it and  
it'll play the preview
On 2009-09-25, at 12:30 AM, william lomas wrote:

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>   hi i can no longer it seems, preview songs in ITunes store 
> anymore
> with the latest Itunes version
>
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Re: previews?

2009-09-25 Thread Jessi and Goldina

hey Anna,
thanks for that item chooser trick, that's a good one!! I've never  
really thought to use the item chooser in anything other than safari  
and text edit!! that's a good way to find all the preview or buy  
buttons!!
On 2009-09-25, at 7:26 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

>
> Hi William,
>
> With the latest version of itunes that came out this week, every track
> has a Preview button. Clicking this button with VO-Space plays the
> preview. It works really well on my system. What I do is search for
> Preview in the Item Chooser. Then all the tracks are listed, and I can
> arrow up and down the list. When I find one I want to preview, I press
> Enter, then VO-Space.
>
> Another thing I discovered is that you don't have to be in the HTML
> content to use the Next Heading command, VO-Command-H. So now after I
> conduct a search, I press this command to go straight to the first
> heading. This puts me in the browser portion of the page, where I can
> make choices about what to view. If there's a list of albums I'm
> interested in, I go to the Item Chooser and type Button. Then all the
> Buy buttons appear in a list, and I can arrow through them to see
> which albums are available and how much they cost. It works well. I
> hope the  table that shows songs will soon be a real table you can
> navigate by moving up and down columns or across rows, but other than
> that, it seems like the store is once again pretty easy to use.
>
> Best,
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>
>
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Re: Another Text-to-speech product

2009-09-28 Thread Jessi and Goldina
haha nice!! where can you download them? how much are they?
On 2009-09-28, at 4:41 PM, Blake Sinnett wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Just wanted to tell you all about another text-to-speech company I  
> just found out about. They're called CereProc. They have a few  
> decent voices for Mac and Windows. The languages they have are  
> Scottish, Black Country, southern British, Catalan, Spanish and  
> Japanese. They even make some celebrity voices such as George W  
> Bush, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Barack Obama. The cool part is that  
> you can download the Heather Scottish voice for free for academic  
> purposes. Just thought this might be of interest to some.
>
> Thanks,
> Blake
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Re: quick nav problem

2009-09-28 Thread Jessi and Goldina

hey
to turn off quicknav press the left and right arrow keys at the same  
time.
On 2009-09-28, at 7:11 PM, peter apgar wrote:

>
> Good evening all,
>
>   i have some how turned on quick nav on in mail and for the life of me
> can't figure out how to turn it off.  is there a hot key for this?
> Thanks in advance,
>
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Re: Another Text-to-speech product

2009-09-28 Thread Jessi and Goldina
sweet. I hope there are samples there! I'll check it out when I get  
back from class.
On 2009-09-28, at 5:04 PM, Blake Sinnett wrote:

> Hi,
>
> You can get them from http://www.cereproc.com/ and they're around  
> $47. I must correct one thing however. It appears you need to go to  
> a Scottish school to obtain a free copy of Heather.
>
> From: sanginsista3...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: Another Text-to-speech product
> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:50:11 -0700
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>
> haha nice!! where can you download them? how much are they?
> On 2009-09-28, at 4:41 PM, Blake Sinnett wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Just wanted to tell you all about another text-to-speech company I  
> just found out about. They're called CereProc. They have a few  
> decent voices for Mac and Windows. The languages they have are  
> Scottish, Black Country, southern British, Catalan, Spanish and  
> Japanese. They even make some celebrity voices such as George W  
> Bush, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Barack Obama. The cool part is that  
> you can download the Heather Scottish voice for free for academic  
> purposes. Just thought this might be of interest to some.
>
> Thanks,
> Blake
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: mail issue

2009-10-13 Thread Jessi and Goldina

try VO shift backslash to sort them in the opposite order?
On 2009-10-13, at 11:58 AM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote:

>
> Hi, all,
> I am having an issue with mail.
> For some weird reason, my mail messages are not being sorted properly.
> The date received is going all over the place when I read emails.
> I've tried everything you can think of, all of which is in the view
> menu.
> Any thoughts?
>
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Re: USB drive not showing up

2009-10-14 Thread Jessi and Goldina

I think this is a bug in sl. mine does the same thing. I find the  
easiest way to get to it if it doesn't show up is to open up a new  
finder window and go to the sidebar and look under devices. you'll see  
it there and can then access it.
On 2009-10-14, at 7:53 AM, Rafael Bejarano wrote:

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> Hello,
>
> I'm hoping someone on this list can cast light on a problem that I'm
> having with my USB drive. It often fails to show up on the desk top
> when I start my Mac. I have to restart the machine, or to turn it off
> and on again, before the USB  drive shows up. Any suggestions as to
> how to fix this problem would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Cordially,
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>
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Re: USB drive not showing up

2009-10-14 Thread Jessi and Goldina

/volumes? just cuz I'm curious and like to absorb as much info as I  
can about the mac and VO, how do you get there?
On 2009-10-14, at 10:44 AM, Rafael Bejarano wrote:

>
> I'll try that. Thanks.
>
> Rafael
> On Oct 14, 2009, at 12:22 PM, louie wrote:
>
>>
>> Check /volumes. I had the same trouble and the external usb drive
>> showed up in /volumes.
>>
>> On Oct 14, 2009, at 7:53 AM, Rafael Bejarano wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm hoping someone on this list can cast light on a problem that I'm
>>> having with my USB drive. It often fails to show up on the desk top
>>> when I start my Mac. I have to restart the machine, or to turn it  
>>> off
>>> and on again, before the USB  drive shows up. Any suggestions as to
>>> how to fix this problem would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Cordially,
>>> Rafael Bejarano
>>>

>>
>> louie
>> louiem...@wavecable.com
>>
>>
>>
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>>>
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Re: USB drive not showing up

2009-10-14 Thread Jessi and Goldina

oh, weird!! I dunno then! I could see my drive from the desktop fine  
when I was using leopard. it's only since upgrading to snow leopard  
that it's been a bit flaky. still, try a new finder window, or / 
volumes, I'm sure either one will give you access to it.
On 2009-10-14, at 10:43 AM, Rafael Bejarano wrote:

>
> Thanks for your prompt reply.
>
> Actually, the problem occurs on computers using in Tiger and Leopard
> (I don't have Snow Leopard yet). I will try your suggestion to open a
> new finder window, however. Hopefully, that will work for me, too.
>
> Rafael
> On Oct 14, 2009, at 11:33 AM, Jessi and Goldina wrote:
>
>>
>> I think this is a bug in sl. mine does the same thing. I find the
>> easiest way to get to it if it doesn't show up is to open up a new
>> finder window and go to the sidebar and look under devices. you'll  
>> see
>> it there and can then access it.
>> On 2009-10-14, at 7:53 AM, Rafael Bejarano wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm hoping someone on this list can cast light on a problem that I'm
>>> having with my USB drive. It often fails to show up on the desk top
>>> when I start my Mac. I have to restart the machine, or to turn it  
>>> off
>>> and on again, before the USB  drive shows up. Any suggestions as to
>>> how to fix this problem would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Cordially,
>>> Rafael Bejarano
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
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Re: USB drive not showing up

2009-10-14 Thread Jessi and Goldina

oh wow!! thanks, that's nifty!!!
On 2009-10-14, at 11:12 AM, louie wrote:

>
> command + shift + g then type in /volumes.
>
> On Oct 14, 2009, at 11:06 AM, Jessi and Goldina wrote:
>
>>
>> /volumes? just cuz I'm curious and like to absorb as much info as I
>> can about the mac and VO, how do you get there?
>> On 2009-10-14, at 10:44 AM, Rafael Bejarano wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I'll try that. Thanks.
>>>
>>> Rafael
>>> On Oct 14, 2009, at 12:22 PM, louie wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Check /volumes. I had the same trouble and the external usb drive
>>>> showed up in /volumes.
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 14, 2009, at 7:53 AM, Rafael Bejarano wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm hoping someone on this list can cast light on a problem that
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> having with my USB drive. It often fails to show up on the desk  
>>>>> top
>>>>> when I start my Mac. I have to restart the machine, or to turn it
>>>>> off
>>>>> and on again, before the USB  drive shows up. Any suggestions as  
>>>>> to
>>>>> how to fix this problem would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>> Rafael Bejarano
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> louie
>>>> louiem...@wavecable.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
> louie
> louiem...@wavecable.com
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>
>
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reordering songs in iTunes?

2009-10-15 Thread Jessi and Goldina

hey guys
so I have this awesome playlist of positive songs that I've been  
working on for the past forever or so, lol. I keep adding to it and  
it's quite amazing if I do say so myself, lol. but I wanna change the  
order of the songs. right now they're just in whatever order iTunes  
decides they should go in. is there a way to change it? I'd think  
going into the get info dialog and numbering them might work, but is  
there a faster way than that? maybe like command arrowing like you do  
to move things around the dock?
thanks
Jessi and Goldina

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updating facebook status from the full site?

2009-10-16 Thread Jessi and Goldina

hey guys
back with another question. I use the mobile facebook site all the  
time but thought I'd check out the full site again since I haven't  
used it in awhile. it seems okay, a bit cluttered definitely but  
usable except there doesn't seem to be a way to update your status?  
there's no edit field. VO just says list, and you can't interact with  
it or anything. is it not possible to update your status from the main  
site?

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Re: what happened to the contextual menu??

2009-10-26 Thread Jessi and Goldina

the command for contextual menu is VO shift m.
On 2009-10-26, at 9:04 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:

>
> Hi list,
>
> What happened to command shift m, which usually brings up contextual
> menu wherever you mouse/vo cursor is?
>
> I don't understand this had to be changed.
>
> Thanks, and best
>
>
> Yuma Decaux
>
> Light has no value without darkness
> Skype: shainobi1
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> Tel: +85513623378
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Re: twitter clients and bible program for mac questions

2009-10-28 Thread Jessi and Goldina

hey, syrinx is the best twitter client. there's also twitteriffic, but  
syrinx has way more functionality and is better!!! not sure about the  
Bible program but I'd like to find one too!!
On 2009-10-28, at 8:42 PM, David Geiger wrote:

>
> would like some help finding a good twitter client for mac osx 10.6
> sl desktop client  that will work good with voice over  and also was
> hopeing somone could tell me if there is a bible program out for mac
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Re: Abbyy FineReader works well

2009-11-10 Thread Jessi and Goldina

hey Anne,
is there a list somewhere of scanners that work directly with finereader? or 
does anyone have suggestions for ones that do? I'm probably on the market for a 
new one anyway. would be really great if I could get one of those 
scanner/coppier/printer combos since my printer, as great as it is, isn't mac 
compatible. do those work with finereader? I guess it would depend on the brand.
On 2009-11-10, at 11:44 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> 
> Hello Dan,
> 
> The problem with Abbyy FineReader is that it doesn't work with network 
> scanners. However, you can give it a file of images to OCR if your scanner 
> doesn't work directly with FineReader.
> 
> I compared a document recognised by Readiris, and the same document recognise 
> with Finereader and Finereader did a slightly beter job in that there were 
> slightly fewer errors. Both did a good job but Finereader did a better job.
> 
> FineReader is cheaper than Readiris and the installation and registration 
> process are both completely accessible with VoiceOver.
> 
> Readiris 12 can be installed using VoiceOver, but you get no feed back at 
> times, which is why I posted directions on how to register Readiris 12 on 
> this list.
> 
> I use VueScan to drive both of my scanners since they're both made by Cannon 
> and the drivers are not accessible with VO. VueScan uses the Scangear driver 
> in one case, making it accessible, and has its own driver for the scanner in 
> the other case.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
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Re: Abbyy FineReader works well

2009-11-10 Thread Jessi and Goldina

my printer is one of the few hp printers that's not mac compatible. so I'm a 
little leary of buying another hp printer, but if I was absolutely sure it 
would work then I would.
On 2009-11-10, at 1:51 PM, hank smith wrote:

> 
> I heard the hp line of all in ones work well
> - Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jessi and Goldina" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Abbyy FineReader works well
> 
> 
> 
> hey Anne,
> is there a list somewhere of scanners that work directly with finereader? or 
> does anyone have suggestions for ones that do? I'm probably on the market 
> for a new one anyway. would be really great if I could get one of those 
> scanner/coppier/printer combos since my printer, as great as it is, isn't 
> mac compatible. do those work with finereader? I guess it would depend on 
> the brand.
> On 2009-11-10, at 11:44 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hello Dan,
>> 
>> The problem with Abbyy FineReader is that it doesn't work with network 
>> scanners. However, you can give it a file of images to OCR if your scanner 
>> doesn't work directly with FineReader.
>> 
>> I compared a document recognised by Readiris, and the same document 
>> recognise with Finereader and Finereader did a slightly beter job in that 
>> there were slightly fewer errors. Both did a good job but Finereader did a 
>> better job.
>> 
>> FineReader is cheaper than Readiris and the installation and registration 
>> process are both completely accessible with VoiceOver.
>> 
>> Readiris 12 can be installed using VoiceOver, but you get no feed back at 
>> times, which is why I posted directions on how to register Readiris 12 on 
>> this list.
>> 
>> I use VueScan to drive both of my scanners since they're both made by 
>> Cannon and the drivers are not accessible with VO. VueScan uses the 
>> Scangear driver in one case, making it accessible, and has its own driver 
>> for the scanner in the other case.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Abbyy FineReader works well

2009-11-10 Thread Jessi and Goldina

I sure do lol. I've scoured the internet for ways to make it work and the only 
way to do it is to do something weird with the firmware and then reinstall it 
everytime I wanna print. how about no! lol. I'd rather use my pc!!!
On 2009-11-10, at 2:05 PM, hank smith wrote:

> 
> thats odd
> every one I owned was mac conpatible.
> you must have one of the odd ball ones
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jessi and Goldina" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 3:01 PM
> Subject: Re: Abbyy FineReader works well
> 
> 
> 
> my printer is one of the few hp printers that's not mac compatible. so I'm a 
> little leary of buying another hp printer, but if I was absolutely sure it 
> would work then I would.
> On 2009-11-10, at 1:51 PM, hank smith wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I heard the hp line of all in ones work well
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Jessi and Goldina" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: Abbyy FineReader works well
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> hey Anne,
>> is there a list somewhere of scanners that work directly with finereader? 
>> or
>> does anyone have suggestions for ones that do? I'm probably on the market
>> for a new one anyway. would be really great if I could get one of those
>> scanner/coppier/printer combos since my printer, as great as it is, isn't
>> mac compatible. do those work with finereader? I guess it would depend on
>> the brand.
>> On 2009-11-10, at 11:44 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello Dan,
>>> 
>>> The problem with Abbyy FineReader is that it doesn't work with network
>>> scanners. However, you can give it a file of images to OCR if your 
>>> scanner
>>> doesn't work directly with FineReader.
>>> 
>>> I compared a document recognised by Readiris, and the same document
>>> recognise with Finereader and Finereader did a slightly beter job in that
>>> there were slightly fewer errors. Both did a good job but Finereader did 
>>> a
>>> better job.
>>> 
>>> FineReader is cheaper than Readiris and the installation and registration
>>> process are both completely accessible with VoiceOver.
>>> 
>>> Readiris 12 can be installed using VoiceOver, but you get no feed back at
>>> times, which is why I posted directions on how to register Readiris 12 on
>>> this list.
>>> 
>>> I use VueScan to drive both of my scanners since they're both made by
>>> Cannon and the drivers are not accessible with VO. VueScan uses the
>>> Scangear driver in one case, making it accessible, and has its own driver
>>> for the scanner in the other case.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Bak on an Apple Again

2009-12-05 Thread Jessi and Goldina
enjoy your mac!! you'll love it!! and I completely agree. if there's a 
mainstream solution, people should use that. these note takers and 
screenreaders are okay if there's no other solution, but people already see 
blind people as bad different as it is and it seems to me like people don't 
take the time to understand what they don't know about. everyone knows about 
apple computers and computers in general, and I think the more sighted people 
see us using regular technology the better. I just love when I'm sitting 
somewhere in public with my mac and people ask me how I use it!
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> I just got my Mac a couple of days ago.  I have extensive computer knowledge, 
> starting on the old Apple II, and moved to MSDOS, not by choice, but out of 
> necessity.  The switch to Windows took place, and with it the cost of the 
> screen readers came as well.  Every time you changed operating systems, you 
> had to buy a new version of the screen reader.  Once I had a problem with a 
> screen reader, and had to install a later version.  I didn't have the stupid 
> authorization disk, so guess what I had to do? You guessed it, spend more 
> money.
> I'm learning the Mac because I don't choose to give more money to assistive 
> technology manufacturers.  I believe if a mainstream solution for access 
> exists, we should use that.  Only go to the AT companies if no other solution 
> exists to complete a particular task.
> 
> Matt Roberts n9gmr...@gmail.com
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Re: finding files Itunes has wripped

2010-01-04 Thread Jessi and Goldina
hey Mary,
the files are in whatever drive your library is on/your library name/itunes 
music.
On 2010-01-04, at 4:02 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

> Hi folks,
> I am in the process of putting a large cd collection onto itunes as mp3 
> files. One of the things I'd like to do when I'm done is to selectively copy 
> some of these onto an sd card for use in a player that isn't Itunes 
> compatible, that is, its not an ipod or iphone. So to do that, I'm figuring I 
> will need to find where the files are stored on the Mac, and copy/paste them 
> from there to my sd card in a usb card reader. I haven't found a means of 
> exporting other than this, and I haven't even found where all this music is 
> bgeing stored. Can anybody offer a few hints on how best to accomplish this 
> task? Thanks in advance.
> Mary
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Re: accessible bit torrent client

2010-01-17 Thread Jessi and Goldina
I use tomato torrent and I'm very happy with it.
On 2010-01-17, at 11:31 AM, Mike Pedersen wrote:

> Hi all, have any of you found a bit torrent client that you are particularly 
> happy with?  I've found the client directly from bit torrent not accessible.  
> 
> thanks much
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Re: vo driving me crazy.

2010-01-21 Thread Jessi and Goldina
hey Maurice,
to fix it so VO doesn't give so many instructions
1.  go to VO preferences with VO f8
2.  interact with the categories table and navigate to verbosity.
3.  stop interacting with the table and VO right arrow over until you see the 
"hints" tab. select that.
4. uncheck the box that says speak instructions for using the item in the 
voiceover cursor.
5.  close preferences and you should be good.
hth
Jessi


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> Can anyone translate the message from Maurice ham call kd0iko into English? I 
> am very confused.
> 
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Maurice Mines  wrote:
> hi whin I use vo after every key strok vo offers a stess mesage for every 
> thong how can I at lest tame this things setch as whin I am in a list due I 
> really ned to know that I am in a list and what the comand to move up and 
> down. please help me not luse my mind?? maurice ham call kd0iko.
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Re: good news for 10.6.3

2010-01-23 Thread Jessi and Goldina
ooh yes, this is good news!!! voiceover was mentioned!!! I wonder what's 
coming? ooh ooh it's exciting and better printer compatibility!! I hope my 
printer will finally be supported!!! I swear I own the only hp printer that is 
not mac compatible!!!
On 2010-01-22, at 8:46 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:

> http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/01/22/mac_os_x_10_6_3_to_enhance_quicktime_64_bit_logic_printing.html
> 
> It points out apple asking for closer compatibility for voice over. A 
> standardization of accessibility on the mac 64 bit coco environment?
> 
> Here's hoping
> 
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Re: Adding Items to the Dock

2010-02-01 Thread Jessi and Goldina
hi David, just tried the command shift t that Linda suggested and it does in 
deed work!! thanks Linda! I didn't know that one, I always added things to the 
dock through the contextual menu! so glad there's a shortcut! awesome!
On 2010-02-01, at 6:46 PM, David McLean wrote:

> Hello, Ok I'm definitely showing my newbie status here but...
> Is there a simple way to add items to the dock using VO?  I've been poking 
> around and really haven't found any documentation on how to do this although 
> I'm sure it's somewhere.  I also found a send to dock script on the web but 
> it looks like it's a couple of years old so I'm not sure it's required any 
> more.
> Is it just a matter of copying and pasting somehow?
> Thanks for any help.
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Re: iTunes lost all my stuff

2010-02-08 Thread Jessi and Goldina
hey Randi!
holding down the option key when you launch iTunes will bring up the dialog 
about the library. that's how you switch from one library to the next. do that 
and find your library and you should be good to go! and that's how you can make 
more than one library!
On 2010-02-08, at 6:35 AM, rayna424 wrote:

> Hmmm. Well since you're saying the problem occured because I might
> have held down the option key, I wonder if I launch iTunes and hold
> the option key, if it will ask me about the library again. I might try
> that when I get to where I can tackle this problem. All the other
> options sound really daunting, so I'd rather find the easiest route. I
> also thought about uninstalling iTunes and re-downloading it. I wonder
> if that would do it.
> 
> 
> 
> Scott Howell wrote:
>> SOmeone had previously recommended you either direct iTunes to use the 
>> previous copy of the library or just copy the library from the previous 
>> iTunes library folder back into the top-level of the iTunes folder. Of 
>> course if you use Time Machine, you can always restore the previous library 
>> from there as well.
>> If all that fails, you can always reimport all of your music and if it is 
>> all tagged properly, you should end up with the same library you had before 
>> the upgrade.  One other suggestion, when launching any program, instead of 
>> pressing VO-spacebar on the item, use command-o.  This avoids the potential 
>> for the option key being trapped by the program, which is probably what 
>> happen.
>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 8:52 PM, rayna424 wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok, this is good stuff to look at tomorrow. Do you know if there's
>>> anyway to restore iTunes to before the update? Then I can just make
>>> sure that library thing doesn't happen. I wish I had known, or just
>>> quit it. Sounds like fixing it will be hard.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Scott Howell wrote:
 All you have to do is simply quit iTUnes in most cases and just restart 
 it. I find where the issue shows itself is when you accidentally hold the 
 option key down while iTunes is loading. This allows you to select an 
 alternate iTunes library. WHenever iTunes comes up and asks me for a 
 library, I just quit and relaunch iTunes and all is well.
 
 On Feb 7, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Ryan Mann wrote:
 
> Hello.  In the future, when ITunes asks you to choose a library, you 
> should browse to your music/itunes folder, then push the choose library 
> button or whatever it is called..  That's actually where the Itunes 
> library is.  That's what I have to do a lot of times when software 
> updates come out.  Unfortunately, since you didn't do that this time, I'm 
> not sure how to change it back.
> 
> On Feb 7, 2010, at 6:12 PM, rayna424 wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I am restraining myself from calling Apple until tomorrow. I just did
>> the latest iTunes software update, and when it was done, it asked me
>> to pick a library. Huh? I think I just selected music. Well, all my
>> stuff is gone. All of it. Gone. I'm freaking out and have shut down
>> iTunes until I calm down and/or hopefully get some answers. If you
>> have any ideas, please, please tell me. I have all my stuff on my
>> iPods, but not on a hard back up.
>> 
>> Thanks...
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Re: iTunes lost all my stuff

2010-02-08 Thread Jessi and Goldina
haha yay!! glad it worked and you don't have to rebuild your library from 
scratch!!
yay, us doggie handlers got it goin' on!! lol :D
On 2010-02-08, at 7:54 AM, rayna424 wrote:

> It worked! I had tried it early but I don't think I held the option
> key in time. This time it worked!!! Yay Thank you Doggy
> handlers unite! Hahahaha! Yay!!!
> 
> 
> Jessi and Goldina wrote:
>> hey Randi!
>> holding down the option key when you launch iTunes will bring up the dialog 
>> about the library. that's how you switch from one library to the next. do 
>> that and find your library and you should be good to go! and that's how you 
>> can make more than one library!
>> On 2010-02-08, at 6:35 AM, rayna424 wrote:
>> 
>>> Hmmm. Well since you're saying the problem occured because I might
>>> have held down the option key, I wonder if I launch iTunes and hold
>>> the option key, if it will ask me about the library again. I might try
>>> that when I get to where I can tackle this problem. All the other
>>> options sound really daunting, so I'd rather find the easiest route. I
>>> also thought about uninstalling iTunes and re-downloading it. I wonder
>>> if that would do it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Scott Howell wrote:
>>>> SOmeone had previously recommended you either direct iTunes to use the 
>>>> previous copy of the library or just copy the library from the previous 
>>>> iTunes library folder back into the top-level of the iTunes folder. Of 
>>>> course if you use Time Machine, you can always restore the previous 
>>>> library from there as well.
>>>> If all that fails, you can always reimport all of your music and if it is 
>>>> all tagged properly, you should end up with the same library you had 
>>>> before the upgrade.  One other suggestion, when launching any program, 
>>>> instead of pressing VO-spacebar on the item, use command-o.  This avoids 
>>>> the potential for the option key being trapped by the program, which is 
>>>> probably what happen.
>>>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 8:52 PM, rayna424 wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Ok, this is good stuff to look at tomorrow. Do you know if there's
>>>>> anyway to restore iTunes to before the update? Then I can just make
>>>>> sure that library thing doesn't happen. I wish I had known, or just
>>>>> quit it. Sounds like fixing it will be hard.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Scott Howell wrote:
>>>>>> All you have to do is simply quit iTUnes in most cases and just restart 
>>>>>> it. I find where the issue shows itself is when you accidentally hold 
>>>>>> the option key down while iTunes is loading. This allows you to select 
>>>>>> an alternate iTunes library. WHenever iTunes comes up and asks me for a 
>>>>>> library, I just quit and relaunch iTunes and all is well.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Ryan Mann wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello.  In the future, when ITunes asks you to choose a library, you 
>>>>>>> should browse to your music/itunes folder, then push the choose library 
>>>>>>> button or whatever it is called..  That's actually where the Itunes 
>>>>>>> library is.  That's what I have to do a lot of times when software 
>>>>>>> updates come out.  Unfortunately, since you didn't do that this time, 
>>>>>>> I'm not sure how to change it back.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 6:12 PM, rayna424 wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I am restraining myself from calling Apple until tomorrow. I just did
>>>>>>>> the latest iTunes software update, and when it was done, it asked me
>>>>>>>> to pick a library. Huh? I think I just selected music. Well, all my
>>>>>>>> stuff is gone. All of it. Gone. I'm freaking out and have shut down
>>>>>>>> iTunes until I calm down and/or hopefully get some answers. If you
>>>>>>>> have any ideas, please, please tell me. I have all my stuff on my
>>>>>>>> iPods, but not on a hard back up.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>

dvd player refusing to play dvd's?

2010-02-12 Thread Jessi and Goldina
hey guys
the cd/dvd drive on my macbook has been doing some weird things lately. it'll 
play most cds and dvd's, but it's iffy on my glee road to sectionals box set. 
there are four dvd's in the set, the first 13 episodes of the show. sometimes 
they'll work, but most of the time they just spin and stop and spin and stop 
and finally the dvd player spits them out. they're not mounted to the finder 
and the mac doesn't seem to have any recognission that they're inserted except 
for the spinning and stopping before spitting out.

I've tried cleaning the dvd's and it doesn't make a difference. does anyone 
know why it might be doing this? I hope there's nothing wrong with the drive! 
but I don't think so, cuz it works with other cd's! and sometimes with the glee 
ones too, just not all the time! it seems to have a mind of its own about when 
it wants to work!

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Re: dvd player refusing to play dvd's?

2010-02-15 Thread Jessi and Goldina
weird. these are store bought though. and sometimes they work, sometimes not.
On 2010-02-15, at 6:46 PM, carlene knight wrote:

> HI:
> 
> I've got a Mini that has a problem with some CD.'s too, particularly ones 
> that have been burned without using ITunes.  I don't know if they are in a 
> strange format or what.  My drive makes a horrible noise and then the action 
> you describe.  It's hard to get the disk out.  It might spit it out if I left 
> it long enough.  My husband's Mini does it too with the same CD.'s.  
> 
> On Feb 12, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote:
> 
>> hey guys
>> the cd/dvd drive on my macbook has been doing some weird things lately. 
>> it'll play most cds and dvd's, but it's iffy on my glee road to sectionals 
>> box set. there are four dvd's in the set, the first 13 episodes of the show. 
>> sometimes they'll work, but most of the time they just spin and stop and 
>> spin and stop and finally the dvd player spits them out. they're not mounted 
>> to the finder and the mac doesn't seem to have any recognission that they're 
>> inserted except for the spinning and stopping before spitting out.
>> 
>> I've tried cleaning the dvd's and it doesn't make a difference. does anyone 
>> know why it might be doing this? I hope there's nothing wrong with the 
>> drive! but I don't think so, cuz it works with other cd's! and sometimes 
>> with the glee ones too, just not all the time! it seems to have a mind of 
>> its own about when it wants to work!
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Re: meeting mac users

2010-02-26 Thread Jessi and Goldina
hey, check out apple socialize! http://groups.google.com/group/apple-socialize

it's not very active but it's there!!
On 2010-02-26, at 7:09 PM, David Geiger wrote:

> hey guys i know this is not a daiting site or anything  but i would
> love to meet other mac users   dont matter where from  be nice to talk
> too  but i am in virginia in the us  thanks  just thought i would
> start here
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Re: Power issue on macbook

2009-04-30 Thread Jessi and Goldina

mine's done this a few times too but I'm not really worried. it  
usually happens when I'm doing something quickly like arrowing through  
to check the time. it's like voiceover says whoa, you're going way too  
fast and I'm really confused so I'll just pop, lol. leaving it for a  
few seconds and then restarting voiceover usually does the trick.
peace and positivity
Jessi
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On 30-Apr-09, at 6:45 PM, rayna424 wrote:

>
> I probably need to take it in to the Apple store but wonder if any of
> you have experienced this. Sometimes I hear a pop, just a quiet one.
> The computer will freeze and then be fine. Today I heard a louder pop
> and nothing would happen when I hit keys. I could hear that it was on.
> I forced a shutdown and then it was fine. I should probably take it in
> right? I've only had it since December. Worried.
>
> Thanks guys,
> Randi
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Re: Power issue on macbook

2009-04-30 Thread Jessi and Goldina

you restart voiceover with command f5. command f5 once to turn it off,  
then again to turn it back on. you might have to fiddle with it a few  
times, but eventually it will come back. you shouldn't have to restart  
your macbook. I'm not sure if the whole computer freezes when this  
happens or if it's just a voiceover thing but turning voiceover off  
and then back on again should definitely fix it.
peace and positivity
Jessi
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On 30-Apr-09, at 7:57 PM, rayna424 wrote:

>
> Oh yes it happens just the way you describe, when I'm going really
> fast.
>
> How do you restart VO? That is different than restarting the macbook?
>
> Thank you!
> Randi
>
> Jessi and Goldina wrote:
>> mine's done this a few times too but I'm not really worried. it
>> usually happens when I'm doing something quickly like arrowing  
>> through
>> to check the time. it's like voiceover says whoa, you're going way  
>> too
>> fast and I'm really confused so I'll just pop, lol. leaving it for a
>> few seconds and then restarting voiceover usually does the trick.
>> peace and positivity
>> Jessi
>> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva
>> On 30-Apr-09, at 6:45 PM, rayna424 wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I probably need to take it in to the Apple store but wonder if any  
>>> of
>>> you have experienced this. Sometimes I hear a pop, just a quiet one.
>>> The computer will freeze and then be fine. Today I heard a louder  
>>> pop
>>> and nothing would happen when I hit keys. I could hear that it was  
>>> on.
>>> I forced a shutdown and then it was fine. I should probably take  
>>> it in
>>> right? I've only had it since December. Worried.
>>>
>>> Thanks guys,
>>> Randi
>>>>
> >


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strange behavior

2009-05-11 Thread Jessi and Goldina

hey guys,
just hmmming over some things this morning lol. when I got up this  
morning and was looking at my twitter messages, just arrowing through  
them in twitteriffic, voiceover crashed! I think it was still running,  
cuz when I took focus away it made the little clicking sound, but when  
I command f5'd to turn it off and back on again, it wouldn't come  
back!! I had to restart!!! it's done it twice today!! I just got  
through repairing disc permissions, so we'll see if that does  
anything, but does anyone else's do this? the speech just randomly  
stops out of nowhere but it seems as if voiceover is still running?

and then a lot of my apps seem to be running slowly. mostly  
twitteriffic, itunes and ijournal, but I'm thinking maybe that's just  
cuz they all need time to connect to the internet before they can be  
used? so maybe that's nothing. but my machine does seem a bit more  
sluggish than usual. poor thing.

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Re: vo and twitterific

2009-05-21 Thread Jessi and Goldina

or you could follow me too :) but yeah. that's your problem, you need  
some followers!! then it'll bring up the table.
and I'll stop now cuz I don't want this to turn into a "follow me!"  
post. lol
Jessi
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On 21-May-09, at 5:17 PM, Arthur Pirika wrote:

>
> hi, it's a fresh account so, no followers.
>
> Arthur.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mark Baxter" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 11:32 AM
> Subject: Re: vo and twitterific
>
>
>>
>> Do you have any followers to put in a table?
>>
>>
>> Mark BurningHawk
>>
>> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
>> MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
>> My home page:
>> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> >


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issue with mail and new safari 4 beta

2009-05-21 Thread Jessi and Goldina
hey guys
I'm back on my mac, yay yay and more yay!!! thank goodness, lol
when I booted it up after not for a week, the new safari 4 beta was  
there to greet me in the software update. how lovely!! so I installed  
it.

now, I seem to be having a problem with mail. I'll be reading my  
messages, but after awhile when I VO J on a message, VO just says  
scroll area and it won't let me read the message. I can't interact  
with it or anything. if I VO J again it'll bring me back into the  
messages table, but it won't let me read any other messages. the only  
way I can get this to stop is to quit mail and reopen it again, and  
that's very inconvenient!!!
has anyone else had this issue and if so how did you go about fixing  
it? is it a bug with the new safari 4 beta? cuz it only happened after  
I installed that!!! thanks.
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Re: issue with mail and new safari 4 beta

2009-05-21 Thread Jessi and Goldina

ah, cool. well, thankfully, the weird mail behavior has stopped for  
the time being? hopefully it was just a fluke thing and it's gonna act  
right now lol.
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On 21-May-09, at 8:12 PM, Mark Baxter wrote:

>
> I use an alternate form of navigation in Mail, where I don't actually
> interact with the messages table unless I specifically need to, and
> use Tab to cycle back and forth between the message content area and
> the messages table, and regular arrows to move in the messages table.
>
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Re: wonderful news about apple care

2009-05-25 Thread Jessi and Goldina

haha OMG I totally do that too!! cheer when the mac adds come on. and  
I'm always defending my mac against pc people lol!!! I totally agree  
with everything you just said!!! yes!!! lol. my dad calls me a  
computer snob. I haven't quite figured out if he's kidding or not lol.  
maybe half and half? he claims that pc's "just work." and I laugh  
because it's been a long time since I've seen a pc "just work!" they  
always need updates and fixes and virus updates and ugh...gives me a  
headache just thinking about those days. I'm not clueless, I know  
there are viruses for the mac, but they're so few and far between!!  
it's so nice to not have to worry!!
and yes, the mac has a few lil quirks too, mostly where voiceover and  
safari are concerned, and I really really wish it would play nicer  
with flash and firefox, but I'm sure those things will come in time.  
I'm sticking with this little macbook of mine!!! lol.
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On 25-May-09, at 12:36 PM, Jenny Kennedy (Howard) wrote:

>
> Hi Ben, Jese and all,
>
> I know exactly where you all are coming from.  I love my Mac!  I love
> it so much I have been known to cheer when the Mac adverts come on
> TV.  I have even been known to shush people when they come on.
> Likewise I've been known to boo the PC adverts  My feeance Larry
> thinks I'm a bit demented for this.  He says it is just an expensive
> computer.  He even pointed at the $300 junkey laptop he bought earlier
> in the year and said it had the same stuff on it as my macbook and was
> a lot less money.  I pointed up that it didn't have a built-in web
> cam, like my macbook.  I pointed up that it's joke of a screen reader
> is a major suckfest as is their screen enlargement program.  I pointed
> up I haven't had popups, spam, spyware, malware and none of the other
> agravations I had with my PC.  Also pointed up the biggest reason MY
> macbook is way better than his junkey laptop pc.  It doesn't have
> Vista! Or blue screens o death.
>
> I tell everyone about my loverly Mac.  Even tried to win my dad over
> to the Mac side now he's loosing vision.  It is expensive right off
> when you buy it.  But you don't have to keep on buying updates to
> screen readers every time there is an upgrade in the OS or whatever.
> I used to be frightfully anoyed when I found out an upgrade in Windows
> was on the way because it meant my JAWS was soon going to be
> outdated.  Now I don't have to worry.  If and when they do move on to
> the next mac OS I know that I'll be covered.  I might have to pay $150
> ish or so but that beats the heck out of first buing a new OS then a
> new screen reader then everything else like anti-malware and stuff.
>
> I catch myself actually feeling bad for people who have to only use a
> PC or those of us who are blind not knowing how much better their
> lives could be all because of a mac.  I'm sure nonmac people think me
> off my head but when something just works right out of the box and
> keeps working with very little glitches then yah I'm going to be off
> my head about it.  :-)
>
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Re: wonderful news about apple care

2009-05-27 Thread Jessi and Goldina

man...if I had a choice every computer in the world would be a mac.  
lol who needs pc's anyway right? lol.
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On 27-May-09, at 12:27 PM, Ben King wrote:

>
> Dear Jenny,
>
> Thank you for your email.  I agree with you completely.  Macs are the
> best!  Voiceover rocks! I am trying to win my Mom over to the Mac side
> as well and I think I have her there. If I had say in what computers
> went in my house, they would be all Mac! I hope everything is going
> well.
> Blessings,
> Ben
> On May 25, 2009, at 12:36 PM, Jenny Kennedy (Howard) wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Ben, Jese and all,
>>
>> I know exactly where you all are coming from.  I love my Mac!  I love
>> it so much I have been known to cheer when the Mac adverts come on
>> TV.  I have even been known to shush people when they come on.
>> Likewise I've been known to boo the PC adverts  My feeance Larry
>> thinks I'm a bit demented for this.  He says it is just an expensive
>> computer.  He even pointed at the $300 junkey laptop he bought  
>> earlier
>> in the year and said it had the same stuff on it as my macbook and  
>> was
>> a lot less money.  I pointed up that it didn't have a built-in web
>> cam, like my macbook.  I pointed up that it's joke of a screen reader
>> is a major suckfest as is their screen enlargement program.  I  
>> pointed
>> up I haven't had popups, spam, spyware, malware and none of the other
>> agravations I had with my PC.  Also pointed up the biggest reason MY
>> macbook is way better than his junkey laptop pc.  It doesn't have
>> Vista! Or blue screens o death.
>>
>> I tell everyone about my loverly Mac.  Even tried to win my dad over
>> to the Mac side now he's loosing vision.  It is expensive right off
>> when you buy it.  But you don't have to keep on buying updates to
>> screen readers every time there is an upgrade in the OS or whatever.
>> I used to be frightfully anoyed when I found out an upgrade in  
>> Windows
>> was on the way because it meant my JAWS was soon going to be
>> outdated.  Now I don't have to worry.  If and when they do move on to
>> the next mac OS I know that I'll be covered.  I might have to pay  
>> $150
>> ish or so but that beats the heck out of first buing a new OS then a
>> new screen reader then everything else like anti-malware and stuff.
>>
>> I catch myself actually feeling bad for people who have to only use a
>> PC or those of us who are blind not knowing how much better their
>> lives could be all because of a mac.  I'm sure nonmac people think me
>> off my head but when something just works right out of the box and
>> keeps working with very little glitches then yah I'm going to be off
>> my head about it.  :-)
>>
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Re: very nice experience at University Village Apple Store in Seattle Washington

2009-05-28 Thread Jessi and Goldina

hey, Ben,
this is good news!!! I love when I hear good stories about apple  
employees not only knowing what voiceover is, but wanting to help  
improve it!!! I've never even been to the apple store here in  
vancouver, canada, I know...sad!! lol. I need to find a way over  
there. but when I do I'll definitely tell how it was!!!
your suggestions were good, too!! I definitely would've said firefox.  
IPhone is good, maybe the more they hear it the more they'll consider  
it? although when I talked to the firefox people at CSUN this year  
they assured me making it accessible with voiceover was a "priority."  
maybe they were just saying that to make me go away? or maybe it takes  
time and I'm impatient lol.
I think flash is another big one, although it seems like adobe and  
apple aren't willing to budge on that one and they keep blaming the  
other, so we'll see if that ever happens. I hope so though, since  
flash is such a huge part of the internet these days!!!

but congrats on a great apple store experience, apple is truly a one  
of a kind organization!! yay!!
peace and positivity
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On 27-May-09, at 10:37 PM, Ben King wrote:

>
> Dear Mac Friends,
>
> I am writing you to let you know about an experience I had today at
> the University Village Apple Store in Seattle Washington.  The person
> that I spoke to was very nice and he asked me what I would like to see
> improved in regards to Voiceover.  I told him that Fire Fox would be
> nice with Voiceover support as well as maybe an accessible I Phone.
> Anyway, it was extremely nice for me to go into an Apple Store and
> play with main stream technology.  I love Voiceover as well as the
> Mac.  I hope you all have a nice evening.
> Blessings,
> Ben King
>
> >


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Re: very nice experience at University Village Apple Store in Seattle Washington

2009-05-28 Thread Jessi and Goldina

agreed, Arthur, lol.
if you're gonna take that approach about the iphone and firefox and  
their various addons and apps why don't you just say that about  
voiceover as a whole? what it seems like you're saying is let's not  
make the iphone accessible cuz none of the apps will be. well then,   
let's not make the mac accessible because of all those apps that  
aren't made by apple that may not be. that seems like a silly  
approach. I'm sure there will be plenty of iphone apps that will be  
accessible. as the word about accessibility grows, app developers will  
most likely strive to make their products accessible. they've done so  
on the mac, so I don't see why they wouldn't on the iphone.

I'm sure apple will do it, it's only a matter of time. let's not be  
all negative and try and shoot down something that could benefit us.  
the iphone will still be the iphone whether it's accessible or not.
peace and positivity
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On 28-May-09, at 12:23 PM, arthur gindin wrote:

>
> spamming hardly befits a "distinguished" person
>
> Sean Tikkun wrote:
>>  Can folks on this board help me out here?  I don't see the point of
>> an accessible iPhone.  The fluid dynamic of screen touch technology
>> combined with GUI interface seems like it is just a counter  
>> accessible
>> design form the get go.  Once you make the thing accessible it is no
>> longer an iPhone.  I may not be far enough outside the box, but even
>> if the iPhone were made accessible then all of the apps would still
>> not be.  It is the same issue with Firefox.  If Firefox wanted to be
>> accessible, they would be!  From my understanding the mark-up is
>> there.  The code for using it is free to the programmers and
>> developers...  They just don't care to do it.
>>  Shouldn't we be e-mail spamming Firefox to get with the program?
>>
>>
>> Sean Richards Tikkun
>> Apple Distinghuished Educator
>> class of 2007
>> jaq...@mac.com
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 28, 2009, at 5:20 AM, Vicki Manley wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> That would be so ace if they brought out an accessible i phone
>>> What a really great suggestion!!!
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Vicki.
>>> On 28 May 2009, at 06:37, Ben King wrote:
>>>
>>>
 Dear Mac Friends,

 I am writing you to let you know about an experience I had today at
 the University Village Apple Store in Seattle Washington.  The  
 person
 that I spoke to was very nice and he asked me what I would like to
 see
 improved in regards to Voiceover.  I told him that Fire Fox would  
 be
 nice with Voiceover support as well as maybe an accessible I Phone.
 Anyway, it was extremely nice for me to go into an Apple Store and
 play with main stream technology.  I love Voiceover as well as the
 Mac.  I hope you all have a nice evening.
 Blessings,
 Ben King


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>>
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Re: very nice experience at University Village Apple Store in Seattle Washington

2009-05-28 Thread Jessi and Goldina

yeah, in deed. and I'm sure safari's bugs will all get worked out in  
time too. the only reason i really want firefox is so I can use  
webvisum. although, there's that solona captcha solving service, so  
maybe webvisum isn't even needed. still, it would be nice if firefox  
was accessible and I hope they take it seriously and do it.
peace and positivity
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On 28-May-09, at 2:08 PM, gene wrote:

>
> Hi yeah I hope that mozilla will make firefox accessible I mean it's
> accessible with jaws and window eyes for windows so I curtainlly  
> don't see
> why they wouldn't make it work with voice over.  Safari still has  
> some bugs
> in it and hopefully, if ff was accessible we wouldn't have to deal  
> with
> htat!
> Gene
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jessi and Goldina" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 1:41 PM
> Subject: Re: very nice experience at University Village Apple Store in
> Seattle Washington
>
>
>>
>> hey, Ben,
>> this is good news!!! I love when I hear good stories about apple
>> employees not only knowing what voiceover is, but wanting to help
>> improve it!!! I've never even been to the apple store here in
>> vancouver, canada, I know...sad!! lol. I need to find a way over
>> there. but when I do I'll definitely tell how it was!!!
>> your suggestions were good, too!! I definitely would've said firefox.
>> IPhone is good, maybe the more they hear it the more they'll consider
>> it? although when I talked to the firefox people at CSUN this year
>> they assured me making it accessible with voiceover was a "priority."
>> maybe they were just saying that to make me go away? or maybe it  
>> takes
>> time and I'm impatient lol.
>> I think flash is another big one, although it seems like adobe and
>> apple aren't willing to budge on that one and they keep blaming the
>> other, so we'll see if that ever happens. I hope so though, since
>> flash is such a huge part of the internet these days!!!
>>
>> but congrats on a great apple store experience, apple is truly a one
>> of a kind organization!! yay!!
>> peace and positivity
>> Jessi
>> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva
>> On 27-May-09, at 10:37 PM, Ben King wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Dear Mac Friends,
>>>
>>> I am writing you to let you know about an experience I had today at
>>> the University Village Apple Store in Seattle Washington.  The  
>>> person
>>> that I spoke to was very nice and he asked me what I would like to  
>>> see
>>> improved in regards to Voiceover.  I told him that Fire Fox would be
>>> nice with Voiceover support as well as maybe an accessible I Phone.
>>> Anyway, it was extremely nice for me to go into an Apple Store and
>>> play with main stream technology.  I love Voiceover as well as the
>>> Mac.  I hope you all have a nice evening.
>>> Blessings,
>>> Ben King
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> >


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Re: very nice experience at University Village Apple Store in Seattle Washington

2009-05-29 Thread Jessi and Goldina

I don't think you're wrong. I'm sure it's only a matter of time. like  
someone else said it seemed people were freaking out when the GUI  
interface came to computers and people found ways to make it  
accessible to us so I'm sure the same will be done for touch screens  
in time. I can't think of how it might be done, but there are people  
with more genius minds than mine lol! something can always be done!!
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On 29-May-09, at 2:47 AM, Vicki Manley wrote:

>
> Hmmm,
> I guess you could beright too.
> Maybe i wasn't wrong.
> I've seen so many people with iphones and have always wanted it to be
> made speech accessible.
> Best wishes,
> Vicki.
> On 28 May 2009, at 20:34, Jessi and Goldina wrote:
>
>>
>> agreed, Arthur, lol.
>> if you're gonna take that approach about the iphone and firefox and
>> their various addons and apps why don't you just say that about
>> voiceover as a whole? what it seems like you're saying is let's not
>> make the iphone accessible cuz none of the apps will be. well then,
>> let's not make the mac accessible because of all those apps that
>> aren't made by apple that may not be. that seems like a silly
>> approach. I'm sure there will be plenty of iphone apps that will be
>> accessible. as the word about accessibility grows, app developers  
>> will
>> most likely strive to make their products accessible. they've done so
>> on the mac, so I don't see why they wouldn't on the iphone.
>>
>> I'm sure apple will do it, it's only a matter of time. let's not be
>> all negative and try and shoot down something that could benefit us.
>> the iphone will still be the iphone whether it's accessible or not.
>> peace and positivity
>> Jessi
>> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva
>> On 28-May-09, at 12:23 PM, arthur gindin wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> spamming hardly befits a "distinguished" person
>>>
>>> Sean Tikkun wrote:
>>>>Can folks on this board help me out here?  I don't see the point  
>>>> of
>>>> an accessible iPhone.  The fluid dynamic of screen touch technology
>>>> combined with GUI interface seems like it is just a counter
>>>> accessible
>>>> design form the get go.  Once you make the thing accessible it is  
>>>> no
>>>> longer an iPhone.  I may not be far enough outside the box, but  
>>>> even
>>>> if the iPhone were made accessible then all of the apps would still
>>>> not be.  It is the same issue with Firefox.  If Firefox wanted to  
>>>> be
>>>> accessible, they would be!  From my understanding the mark-up is
>>>> there.  The code for using it is free to the programmers and
>>>> developers...  They just don't care to do it.
>>>>Shouldn't we be e-mail spamming Firefox to get with the program?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sean Richards Tikkun
>>>> Apple Distinghuished Educator
>>>> class of 2007
>>>> jaq...@mac.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 28, 2009, at 5:20 AM, Vicki Manley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> That would be so ace if they brought out an accessible i phone
>>>>> What a really great suggestion!!!
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>> Vicki.
>>>>> On 28 May 2009, at 06:37, Ben King wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Mac Friends,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am writing you to let you know about an experience I had today
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> the University Village Apple Store in Seattle Washington.  The
>>>>>> person
>>>>>> that I spoke to was very nice and he asked me what I would like  
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> see
>>>>>> improved in regards to Voiceover.  I told him that Fire Fox would
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> nice with Voiceover support as well as maybe an accessible I
>>>>>> Phone.
>>>>>> Anyway, it was extremely nice 

Re: time

2009-06-01 Thread Jessi and Goldina
hey
if you press VO M twice quickly to get to the second layer of the menu  
bar and then VO right arrow over a few times you'll get to the time.  
hopefully there will be a quick command in snow leopard?
peace and positivity
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On 1-Jun-09, at 8:24 AM, Keith Brown wrote:

> is there a key on a macbook  to tell the time? thanks
>
> Keith
>
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Re: Refreshable Braille displays

2009-06-02 Thread Jessi and Goldina

really? I just plugged my pm40 display in and it worked right away.  
the quality of the braille display is another topic for another day,  
lol, but the fact that it works is a good thing!!
peace and positivity
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On 2-Jun-09, at 8:13 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I use the PM 40 from FS. I don't know what I did to get it
> working, ... but it took a while. It is a little finicky, ... But it
> works.
>
> Regards,
> Alex,
>
>
> On 28-May-09, at 9:23 AM, Sean Tikkun wrote:
>
>> Hey VO gurus!
>>
>>  I am wanting to play with and learn more about the refreshable
>> braille display features of VoiceOver.  I understand it's basics and
>> am assuming that the display will show the same thing the VoiceOver
>> Dialogue box shows.  I am trying to upgrade my annual presentation to
>> a university program for teachers of students with visual
>> impairments.  I've been doing this presentation since VoiceOver hit
>> the OS, and have loved strutting a new feature each time.
>>
>> Are there any products to steer towards or away from.  Special
>> cautions?  I tried to use two at an AT showcase, but the Humanware
>> dealer couldn't get them to work.  My braille skills told me the
>> batteries were dead!  But he wouldn't admit it.
>>
>> Your Friend,
>> Sean Richards Tikkun
>> jaq...@mac.com
>>
>>
>>>
>> 
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Re: Refreshable Braille displays

2009-06-02 Thread Jessi and Goldina

oh man I'm always disabling that highlight line!! makes reading s  
hard!! I wish it would remember not to display that, lol. I find also  
sometimes if I'm reading a long email or something, I'll only be able  
to read so far into it with the braille display before it won't  
display anything else new. then I have to reinteract with it and then  
I'm able to read the whole thing. I don't use my braille display all  
the time, but I like reading personal emails with it. for some reason  
it makes them even more enjoyable lol. and sometimes I'll just mute  
Alex and use the braille display for everything for awhile. then I can  
listen to music at whater volume I want, lol. yay for braille displays  
and their awesomeness!!!
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On 2-Jun-09, at 11:41 PM, James Dietz wrote:

>
> Aside from a few issues (mainly VO's inability to remember braille
> settings across multiple sessions - like whether or not to display
> that obnoxious highlight line) braille is quite effective and neat.
> Some things aren't intuitive - I can't click on a  member of a group
> in while browsing a webpage (in group mode of course) with one of the
> routing buttons until I actually interact with that group. It'd be
> nice if I could just click it (as my hand is interacting with the
> group, so to speak). I use a pm 20 cell, and vo recognizes it when
> plugged in (ping and all)..
>
> James
>
> On 6/3/09, George Zaynoun  wrote:
>>
>> And I plugged the braille sync 20 from hims and it worked also.
>> Original message:
>>
>>> really? I just plugged my pm40 display in and it worked right away.
>>> the quality of the braille display is another topic for another day,
>>> lol, but the fact that it works is a good thing!!
>>> peace and positivity
>>> Jessi
>>> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva
>>> On 2-Jun-09, at 8:13 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>>
>>
 Hi,
>>
 I use the PM 40 from FS. I don't know what I did to get it
 working, ... but it took a while. It is a little finicky, ... But  
 it
 works.
>>
 Regards,
 Alex,
>>
>>
 On 28-May-09, at 9:23 AM, Sean Tikkun wrote:
>>
> Hey VO gurus!
>>
> I am wanting to play with and learn more about the refreshable
> braille display features of VoiceOver.  I understand it's basics  
> and
> am assuming that the display will show the same thing the  
> VoiceOver
> Dialogue box shows.  I am trying to upgrade my annual  
> presentation to
> a university program for teachers of students with visual
> impairments.  I've been doing this presentation since VoiceOver  
> hit
> the OS, and have loved strutting a new feature each time.
>>
> Are there any products to steer towards or away from.  Special
> cautions?  I tried to use two at an AT showcase, but the Humanware
> dealer couldn't get them to work.  My braille skills told me the
> batteries were dead!  But he wouldn't admit it.
>>
> Your Friend,
> Sean Richards Tikkun
> jaq...@mac.com
>>
>>
>>
> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>> --
>> George Zaynoun
>> Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE
>> Tel/Fax: +46500201623
>> Mobile: +46707567315
>> E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net
>>
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>> www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere.
>>
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>>
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Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Jessi and Goldina

I'm in the same position. I love my e71 to death!!! it's a great  
phone!!! but an IPhone!!! just the thought of it is like wow!
On 8-Jun-09, at 4:37 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote:

>
> I can't diside if I should get one or not.
> The idea of knowing where abouts things are on the screen is a good
> one - i've missed being able to know that since i've lost my site.
> However, I really don't see the advantage of a iphone over my e71.
>
> On 09/06/2009, glenn  wrote:
>> Hello
>> Does anyone know of any demonstration videos showing the addition of
>> Voiceover?
>> Any word whether Voiceover will be available for the ipod touch?
>>
>>Glenn
>>  - Original Message -
>>  From: Josh de Lioncourt
>>  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>  Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 6:54 PM
>>  Subject: Re: voice over comes to the I phone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  I'm still kind of in shock. This is beyond fantastic news. I'll  
>> have to
>> get me an iPhone as soon as I possibly can. This is just tremendous.
>>
>>
>>  The description of how it works sounds very inuitive. I absoltuely  
>> cannot
>> wait.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Josh de Lioncourt
>>  …my other mail provider is an owl…
>>
>>
>>
>>  Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt
>>  Music: http://stage19music.com
>>  Mac-cessibility: http://www.Lioncourt.com
>>  Blog: http://lioncourtsmusings.blogspot.com
>>  GoodReads: http://goodreads.com/Lioncourt
>>
>>
>>  On Jun 8, 2009, at 1:41 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>Read.
>>http://www.apple.com/accessibility/iphone/vision.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> -- 
> Kind regards, BEN.
>
> email: bmustillr...@gmail.com
> msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com
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Re: Voiceover and Braille update in Snow Leopard was Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Jessi and Goldina

ooh this is exciting!! sounds like snow leopard is gonna be  
awesome! I think it's nifty how they're integrading all that stuff  
with the track pad into snow leopard too. it seems like that's the new  
direction they're taking things!!! I can't wait to see how this  
works! oh, such an exciting time to be a mac user!
On 8-Jun-09, at 7:23 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:

>
> HI,
>
> Note: I do not have a Snow Leopard build. However, here is a link my
> LAn tech gave me for a good article from Apple about Voiceover and
> Snow Leopard.
>
> Read:
>
> http://www.apple.com/macosx/accessibility/
>
> .
>
> Regards,
> Alex,
>
>
> On 8-Jun-09, at 1:41 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote:
>
>>
>> Read.
>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/iphone/vision.html
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: Voiceover and Braille update in Snow Leopard was Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Jessi and Goldina

heck yes omg! s freakin' excited!
On 9-Jun-09, at 12:38 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote:

>
> Wow, that's going to be totally awesome.  Especially the web stuff in
> there.  Sweet
> On Jun 8, 2009, at 10:23 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>
>>
>> HI,
>>
>> Note: I do not have a Snow Leopard build. However, here is a link my
>> LAn tech gave me for a good article from Apple about Voiceover and
>> Snow Leopard.
>>
>> Read:
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/macosx/accessibility/
>>
>> .
>>
>> Regards,
>> Alex,
>>
>>
>> On 8-Jun-09, at 1:41 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Read.
>>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/iphone/vision.html
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Jessi and Goldina

I agree with Dan. I think more apps will be accessible in time. now  
that people are finding out about voiceover on the IPhone, just like  
on the mac, they'll start writing apps with accessibility in mind. and  
who knows, maybe some apps are accessible already just cuz of how  
they're written? I wanna be able to have my IPhone listen to a song  
and tell me what song it is!!! lol. that sounds uber cool
On 9-Jun-09, at 1:17 AM, ben mustill-rose wrote:

>
> An interestng artical:
> http://twittermail.com/tweet/MzAxMTUzOA
>
> John brings up a valid point here when he states that apple are
> implying that most of the apps from the app store won't work.
> First of all, don't get me wrong, I think this is a wonderfull step
> forward in accessabilitty of touch devices, but the apps are pretty
> much what makes the i phone the i phone.
> I know I sound like a spoilt kid, but I want to be able to wave my
> phone around to the sounds of a light saber and to be able to mimick a
> wind instrument by blowing into the phone. There not the best examples
> of apps that would be hard to use, but I really do feel that in this
> situation, it will be the early adopters that will loos out here when
> apple release a new version of voice over that will require more
> processing power.
>
>
> On 09/06/2009, ben mustill-rose  wrote:
>> I know exactly what you mean (smiles)
>> I want the sleekness and I could probably get used to the touch, but
>> really, if you disregard the touch screen I really don't see many
>> advantages that would justifie me spending that amount of money.
>> But it is a i phone.
>>
>> On 09/06/2009, Jessi and Goldina  wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm in the same position. I love my e71 to death!!! it's a great
>>> phone!!! but an IPhone!!! just the thought of it is like wow!
>>> On 8-Jun-09, at 4:37 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can't diside if I should get one or not.
>>>> The idea of knowing where abouts things are on the screen is a good
>>>> one - i've missed being able to know that since i've lost my site.
>>>> However, I really don't see the advantage of a iphone over my e71.
>>>>
>>>> On 09/06/2009, glenn  wrote:
>>>>> Hello
>>>>> Does anyone know of any demonstration videos showing the  
>>>>> addition of
>>>>> Voiceover?
>>>>> Any word whether Voiceover will be available for the ipod touch?
>>>>>
>>>>>   Glenn
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: Josh de Lioncourt
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 6:54 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: voice over comes to the I phone
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm still kind of in shock. This is beyond fantastic news. I'll
>>>>> have to
>>>>> get me an iPhone as soon as I possibly can. This is just  
>>>>> tremendous.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The description of how it works sounds very inuitive. I absoltuely
>>>>> cannot
>>>>> wait.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh de Lioncourt
>>>>> …my other mail provider is an owl…
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt
>>>>> Music: http://stage19music.com
>>>>> Mac-cessibility: http://www.Lioncourt.com
>>>>> Blog: http://lioncourtsmusings.blogspot.com
>>>>> GoodReads: http://goodreads.com/Lioncourt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 8, 2009, at 1:41 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   Read.
>>>>>   http://www.apple.com/accessibility/iphone/vision.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Kind regards, BEN.
>>>>
>>>> email: bmustillr...@gmail.com
>>>> msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com
>>>> web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kind regards, BEN.
>>
>> email: bmustillr...@gmail.com
>> msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com
>> web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction)
>>
>
>
> -- 
> Kind regards, BEN.
>
> email: bmustillr...@gmail.com
> msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com
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Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Jessi and Goldina

yeah I know. exactly. although the e71 is pretty sleak too. I'm really  
curious to see how the touch screen will work! that's another reason  
why I want it. I'm a cutting edge kinda girl lol. I wanna be one of  
the first blind people to pull out my iphone and use a touch screen  
device!!! it'll be one of those "how do they do it?" moments lol. I'm  
just so excited about where this is going! I wanna jump in!  
but I do love my e71 and I just got it in january with a talks  
upgrade!! so I dunno how I'd get an IPhone. although I'm on the right  
carrier that has them, so hmmm.
On 9-Jun-09, at 1:00 AM, ben mustill-rose wrote:

>
> I know exactly what you mean (smiles)
> I want the sleekness and I could probably get used to the touch, but
> really, if you disregard the touch screen I really don't see many
> advantages that would justifie me spending that amount of money.
> But it is a i phone.
>
> On 09/06/2009, Jessi and Goldina  wrote:
>>
>> I'm in the same position. I love my e71 to death!!! it's a great
>> phone!!! but an IPhone!!! just the thought of it is like wow!
>> On 8-Jun-09, at 4:37 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I can't diside if I should get one or not.
>>> The idea of knowing where abouts things are on the screen is a good
>>> one - i've missed being able to know that since i've lost my site.
>>> However, I really don't see the advantage of a iphone over my e71.
>>>
>>> On 09/06/2009, glenn  wrote:
>>>> Hello
>>>> Does anyone know of any demonstration videos showing the addition  
>>>> of
>>>> Voiceover?
>>>> Any word whether Voiceover will be available for the ipod touch?
>>>>
>>>>   Glenn
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: Josh de Lioncourt
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 6:54 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: voice over comes to the I phone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm still kind of in shock. This is beyond fantastic news. I'll
>>>> have to
>>>> get me an iPhone as soon as I possibly can. This is just  
>>>> tremendous.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The description of how it works sounds very inuitive. I absoltuely
>>>> cannot
>>>> wait.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh de Lioncourt
>>>> …my other mail provider is an owl…
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt
>>>> Music: http://stage19music.com
>>>> Mac-cessibility: http://www.Lioncourt.com
>>>> Blog: http://lioncourtsmusings.blogspot.com
>>>> GoodReads: http://goodreads.com/Lioncourt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 8, 2009, at 1:41 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Read.
>>>>   http://www.apple.com/accessibility/iphone/vision.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kind regards, BEN.
>>>
>>> email: bmustillr...@gmail.com
>>> msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com
>>> web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction)
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> -- 
> Kind regards, BEN.
>
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Re: safari 4 issue

2009-06-09 Thread Jessi and Goldina

try command left bracket. the one to the right of the p.
On 9-Jun-09, at 7:10 AM, Brandon Misch wrote:

>
> tried that and that doesn't work.
>
> On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:32 AM, Larry Wanger wrote:
>
>>
>> Try command with backspace instead.
>>
>>
>> On Jun 8, 2009, at 9:14 PM, Brandon Misch wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hey all. i'm having a safari 4 issue. when i try to go back with
>>> command left arrow, it doesn't go back like it did in version 3. is
>>> there a fix for this?
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
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Re: safari 4 issue

2009-06-09 Thread Jessi and Goldina

yeah, I think it was always command. I've been using that key to go  
back forever!!
On 9-Jun-09, at 5:39 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote:

>
> Wasn't it always command [?  I've used that keystroke ever since
> Safari 3 actually, noticed that was the shortcut for going back that
> was announced by VO in going through the menus.  So I've always used
> that since Safari 3.
> On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:35 AM, kaare dehard wrote:
>
>>
>> yep try command [ they've changed the key.
>> On 9-Jun-09, at 12:14 AM, Brandon Misch wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hey all. i'm having a safari 4 issue. when i try to go back with
>>> command left arrow, it doesn't go back like it did in version 3. is
>>> there a fix for this?
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
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Re: Voiceover and Braille update in Snow Leopard was Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Jessi and Goldina

oh I know!!! it's amazing the mac may not be for everybody, but it  
is most certainly for me!!
On 9-Jun-09, at 2:28 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

>
>
> 9 jun 2009 kl. 09.41 skrev Jessi and Goldina:
>
>> oh, such an exciting time to be a mac user!
>
> I couldn't agree more. I'm so glad i jumped on the Mac train when i
> did. I can't believe what Apple is doing for us.
> /Krister
>
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