Re: Is it possible to rename a photo or video?

[Josh Smith]

I do not know if it will work or not, but you can try a to finger double tap 
and hold on the picture. This may or may not bring up the option to relabel. 
This is the only thing I can think of to try.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 13, 2016, at 10:31 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> Is there any way on the iPhone to rename a photo or video with something a 
> little more meaningful than the date it was taken?  Any help much appreciated.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: A Question About Audio Descriptive Movies in iTunes

[Josh Smith]

Yes

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 26, 2016, at 8:14 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> Can one search for audio discription to get a list of audio descriptive 
> movies?
> /A
>> On 25 Feb 2016, at 04:44, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>> 
>> well as for having a say about this, one might simply by saying thanks.
>> Sony pictures, Universal Pictures, and Disney are committed  to making sure 
>> the  description track is included in their films available for purchase.
>> It can be hit & miss with others yes.  One reason why I personally make an 
>> effort to see them in the  theatre.
>> Still, if you are say on social media, why not post on the Facebook or 
>> twitter  presence for the film a note expressing our thanks that you could 
>> enjoy it with description, and desire to buy a copy that way as well?
>> A draw more flies with honey sort of solution.
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, 24 Feb 2016, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>> 
>>> Okay.  To your first question.  Yes, the rental version will contain the 
>>> audio descriptive track.  To your second question.  Not necessarily.  
>>> Whether or not a movie will have audio description will depend strictly on 
>>> whether or not the producers give iTunes or Comcast or Netflix or whom ever 
>>> the files for the descriptive version.  That's not a choice of the 
>>> providers, rather, that's a choice of the producers.  We as customers seem 
>>> to have no say in the matter at all.
>>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in
>>> 
>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>>> 
>>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
>>> iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>>> 
 On Feb 24, 2016, at 9:15 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 Hello All,
 
 I am posting this question to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing
 list.
 
 My primary question:
 Is the audio description track included when renting a movie from iTunes? 
 or
 must one purchase the movie in order to receive the audio description 
 track.
 
 My secondary question:
 If a movie debuted with an audio description track in the theater, does it
 follow that the movie will include that track in the iTunes store version 
 of
 the movie?
 
 Here's my situation:
 Last summer I saw the movie entitled "Edge of Tomorrow", in the theater,
 complete with audio description.  To me, it was a fabulous movie.  Just so
 you know, the film is now marketed and sold under the title, "Live die
 Repeat".
 
 A couple of days ago, a sighted friend of mine rented Live die Repeat, from
 the iTunes Store.  She watched it on her iPad.  Even though many titles, in
 the iTunes Store, are not listed as having audio description, I was hoping
 that, like so many others, given that the film was released with audio
 description in the theater, the track would be included on the download.
 
 According to her, she could not hear any audio description despite having
 the settings on her iPad configured correctly.
 
 I should probably add that, to my dismay, I discovered that the DVD copy of
 this title, I purchased when it was first made available, did not include
 the audio description track, either.
 
 I would so much like to enjoy this movie again but I fear, that, unless I
 can locate a version that includes the audio description track, I will not
 be able to relive the experience of "Edge of Tomorrow".
 
 All replies most welcomed.
 
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Re: messages in IOS 9?

[Josh]

Hello Donna,
   I did not see any responses to your message. I also am experiencing
the issue. I will add one contact and then if I do manage to get the
add button to show up then if I go and add someone else then it closes
out the message I was composing and opens up previous messages with
the one recipient. I have not found a work around to get multiple
contacts in one message at this point in time. However, if you find a
work around please report back to the list. I use this feature quite
frequently and hate to see that it is broken for the time being.

On 9/27/15, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> Has anyone else experienced an issue of being unable to create a thread with
> multiple recipients?  Once I've added the first recipient, I get put in a
> messages thread with that person, and the Add Contact Button is gone.
> Anyone found a solution?
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: IOS 9 impressions?

[Josh]

Hello all following this thred,
   I wrote to report this issue to Apple and received feedback
regarding how to work around it. There is apparently two ways and as
one poster points out here possibly a third way. Apple support says go
to "settings>general>accessibility>keyboard" When in keyboard they
suggest to turn off lowercase keys. This will take some time getting
use to as it appears to lock it in uppercase and in order to get it
out of uppercase you have to remember to tap on the shift key. The
alternate method that Apple recommends is to start typing the message
and when you need to lock shift in capslock mode tap the shift key and
get it into uppercase mode then use the roter and once you are on
action flick up or down till you get to capslock. They say they are
looking into it though.

On 9/18/15, Eileen Scrivani  wrote:
> I had this exact problem the other day after updating.  It was on the screen
> where you need to re-enter the passcode after updates are done.  It would
> take a one finger double tap to put uppercase on a single letter, but could
> not do an entire string in caps.
>
> I confess I haven’t had a reason to type and use the caps lock.  I’m using
> an IPhone 6.
>
> Eileen
>
>
> From: Josh
> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 12:29 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 9 impressions?
>
> What is the new way to lock upper case when typing out a text or
> something? When I do the triple tap on the shift key it does not lock
> for me. Is anyone else experiencing this?
>
> On 9/17/15, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> Anyone else install IOS 9 and what are your impressions?
>>
>> I have it running now for less than 24 hours of course.  Battery drain
>> seems
>> higher but I probably need a phone restart that usually clears battery
>> issues.  I like VO saying cap and the letter now instead of uppercase or
>> capitol, and the replacement for passbook seems easy to use.  Other than
>> that not to many impressions yet.  What are you all experiencing?
>>
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Re: IOS 9 impressions?

[Josh]

What is the new way to lock upper case when typing out a text or
something? When I do the triple tap on the shift key it does not lock
for me. Is anyone else experiencing this?

On 9/17/15, Scott Granados  wrote:
> Anyone else install IOS 9 and what are your impressions?
>
> I have it running now for less than 24 hours of course.  Battery drain seems
> higher but I probably need a phone restart that usually clears battery
> issues.  I like VO saying cap and the letter now instead of uppercase or
> capitol, and the replacement for passbook seems easy to use.  Other than
> that not to many impressions yet.  What are you all experiencing?
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Re: Need Unsubscribe and Subscribe Information

[Josh]

Tim, Jamie, and others,
Thank you all for your responses regarding mass deletes using Gmail.
Additionally, thank you for pointing me to the unsubscribe information
which I was aware of, but when I figure out how to do a mass delete
and I want to rejoin I do not have that information at the bottom of
the list. If I recall the unsubscribe link does not give me the
address either so that may be why I had requested the unsubscribe
information. It probably would be much simpler if I were using Apple
Mail to do a mass delete, but unfortunately I am using Internet
Explorer to access my Gmail directly. At one time I had an option to
do a mass delete using the Gmail client, but in their most recent
update I lost that ability or so it seems. Take care and again thank
you for trying to help.

On 8/31/15, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In addition, in Apple Mail, as long as you've interacted with the messages
> table, you can use the shift key along with the up or down arrow to select
> multiple messages.  Regarding unsubscribing, the info for doing so is in the
> footer for each message sent in this group.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Aug 31, 2015, at 12:07, Jamie Pauls  wrote:
>
> Using mac mail, you can use command option shift up arrow to select all of
> the messages from where you are to the top of the list, and command shift
> down arrow to move from where you are to the bottom of a list of messages.
> After you have selected them you can then press the delete key. These are
> not voice over commands. Again, command shift option up arrow or command
> shift option down arrow to select from where you are to the top or bottom of
> the list of messages. Command option up arrow will take you to the top of
> the list of messages in mail, and command option down arrow will take you to
> the bottom of the list. If I am completely misunderstanding what you want to
> do, I apologize.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 31, 2015, at 12:37 PM, Josh  wrote:
>>
>> Hello friends,
>> I am going to have to unsubscribe due to changes that Google has
>> made. I want to come back when I find a more efficient email than what
>> I currently have. With Google's latest change I can no longer mass
>> delete emails once I have looked through them. I have to go to each
>> one and select it. I may be overlooking something and if I am I hope
>> someone can enlighten me, but for now if I can get the subscribe and
>> unsubscribe information that would be great.
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Need Unsubscribe and Subscribe Information

[Josh]

Hello friends,
  I am going to have to unsubscribe due to changes that Google has
made. I want to come back when I find a more efficient email than what
I currently have. With Google's latest change I can no longer mass
delete emails once I have looked through them. I have to go to each
one and select it. I may be overlooking something and if I am I hope
someone can enlighten me, but for now if I can get the subscribe and
unsubscribe information that would be great.

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RE: Need Help Switching Email Addresses

[Josh]

I’ll go and check for it again. I thought I hit the wrong button and cancelled 
it out. Thank you.

 

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Subject: Re: Need Help Switching Email Addresses

 

I sent you email to verify joining with the new address (always have to check 
to make sure it's not a spammer). Hadn't heard back from you yet.

CB

On 7/2/15 10:22 AM, Josh wrote:

Hello Everyone,

  I have set up an email address strictly dedicated to apple to try and lift 
some of the load that my current account is experiencing. Can someone help me 
with switching my email address. I went to the group’s page and had an apply 
option, but I pressed the wrong button and now I do not get the option to apply 
again when I visit that page. Any help will be greatly appreciated. I pressed 
the button right under where you put in your reason for joining and I think I 
needed to go down one more and press the button below it. Thank you for any 
help offered on this matter.

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Need Help Switching Email Addresses

[Josh]

Hello Everyone,

  I have set up an email address strictly dedicated to apple to try and lift
some of the load that my current account is experiencing. Can someone help
me with switching my email address. I went to the group's page and had an
apply option, but I pressed the wrong button and now I do not get the option
to apply again when I visit that page. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
I pressed the button right under where you put in your reason for joining
and I think I needed to go down one more and press the button below it.
Thank you for any help offered on this matter.

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Developing an App

[Josh]

Hello All,

I need help finding an accessible program that will allow me to develop
apps. I have never done this so when I Googled the process I received tons
of results, but nothing saying whether it was accessible or not. Can anyone
direct me to where I would go to either listen to a step-by-step
demonstration on creating an app or somewhere that is going to provide
detailed instructions. Alternatively, if someone has the knowledge that they
would be willing to share with me regarding how they create apps on list or
off list on developing this app, read below for description, then I would
love to hear the ideas. Offlist address:

lawdog...@comcast.net

Description of what I am wanting to do:   

  I am looking to develop an app for my institution where I can have people
post anonymous questions to the app and have others respond to the
questions. The disability department there are concerned that not everyone
is receiving the attention that they need due to not wanting to identify
themselves as having a disability. I feel that the app will accomplish this
goal. There apps out there like I am wanting to create such as YikYak, but
the rules will not be as liberal on the app I am wanting to create as they
are on YikYak. Thank you all for any advice you can offer on this matter.


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Google Calendar Not Accepting Invites

[Josh]

Hello everyone,

 

   I have tried researching this on Google, I have tried comparing my
settings with my wife's settings and for some reason or another my wife
cannot receive calendar invitations using her gmail account. We use the same
Apple I.D., but I do not know how that would effect Google. I am at a loss,
can anyone help? Any help with this will be greatly appreciated.

 

P.S. We are both using iPhone 5C.

 

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Flash Players

[Josh]

Hello Everyone,

   My son was playing on the new iMac the other day and said he was unable
to play any games due to there not being a flash player installed. I looked
around the app store on the computer today searching for just flash players
and then searching for Adobe Flash Player. All I come up with is manuals and
texts to purchase. One time I got a Shazam app that popped up in the search
results, but no actual flash player. Will the HTML 5 that Chris talked about
on here the other day work? It was discussed in regards to YouTube so not
sure if it will work or not. Any help with this matter will be greatly
appreciated.  

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RE: Breaking the Connection Between iPad and iPhone

[Josh]

Hello Everyone,

   I figured out how to accomplish what I want to do for now. I went into
settings, messages, send and receive and deselected the one that was
connected to my phone number. I have the one that is connected to my e-mail
address selected, but not sure when that would apply when using text message
other than causing a headache for me when trying to forward something to my
e-mail address from text message. Jonathan enlightened me with some ideas
for when he gets a little older, thank you for the ideas. 

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Josh
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 1:44 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Breaking the Connection Between iPad and iPhone

 

Thank you for the ideas. 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 1:21 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Breaking the Connection Between iPad and iPhone

 

Hi Josh, I don't know what that option might be, but I think the reality is
that iCloud services are becoming increasingly personal. So it makes sense
to have a collective ID for the store, but a separate ID for each
individual. You could always sign him out of iMessage I guess, but then he
wouldn't be able to use the feature at all.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

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On 13/08/2014, at 5:11 am, Josh  wrote:

 

There use to be an option to select to not synch the various devices and it
was just a matter of going into the device and selecting it. Is that not
still there? It may not be there and that is why I am not finding it or I am
not looking in the right location one. Anyhow thank you for the information.

 

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macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[ <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf OfJonathan Mosen
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 12:52 PM
To:  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Breaking the Connection Between iPad and iPhone

 

Hi Josh, you could all continue to use the same Apple ID for the Store, but
each have different Apple IDs for all other services such as iCloud,
FaceTime and iMessage. Or simply create a new Apple ID for your son for
these other services, and sign him in to it.

Alternatively, Apple has announced that when iOS 8 comes out, it will be
introducing a new feature called Family Sharing. This allows multiple Apple
IDs to share the same content. So you could set up a new Apple ID for your
son on his iPad, then next month when iOS 8 comes out, add him to a Family
Sharing group in which you or your wife are the Family Organiser. That way
there is o need to purchase the apps again.

I have an entire chapter on how to do this in my book, iOS 8 Without the
Eye, which will be released the same day iOS 8 is.

For now though, giving your son his own ID for iCloud services while keeping
the existing one for the store will fix the problem.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

 <http://mosen.org/> http://Mosen.org

 

On 13/08/2014, at 4:12 am, Josh < <mailto:lawdog...@comcast.net>
lawdog...@comcast.net> wrote:





Hello Everyone,

   I am wondering how to well as the subject line says break the connection
between the iPad that my son plays on and my iPhone. To explain a little
more the text messages I receive and send pop up on the iPad. Some of the
conversations between my wife and I regarding him does not need to be
discussed in front of him nor where he can freely look at it. Is there any
way to make the iPad quit receiving the messages that I am sending and
receiving without changing the account it is on? I want to keep the same
account so I do not have to repurchase the apps that he loves and are
inaccessible to me. Any help with this will be greatly appreciated.

 

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RE: Breaking the Connection Between iPad and iPhone

[Josh]

Thank you for the ideas. 

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Breaking the Connection Between iPad and iPhone

 

Hi Josh, I don't know what that option might be, but I think the reality is
that iCloud services are becoming increasingly personal. So it makes sense
to have a collective ID for the store, but a separate ID for each
individual. You could always sign him out of iMessage I guess, but then he
wouldn't be able to use the feature at all.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

 

On 13/08/2014, at 5:11 am, Josh  wrote:





There use to be an option to select to not synch the various devices and it
was just a matter of going into the device and selecting it. Is that not
still there? It may not be there and that is why I am not finding it or I am
not looking in the right location one. Anyhow thank you for the information.

 

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macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[ <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf OfJonathan Mosen
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 12:52 PM
To:  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Breaking the Connection Between iPad and iPhone

 

Hi Josh, you could all continue to use the same Apple ID for the Store, but
each have different Apple IDs for all other services such as iCloud,
FaceTime and iMessage. Or simply create a new Apple ID for your son for
these other services, and sign him in to it.

Alternatively, Apple has announced that when iOS 8 comes out, it will be
introducing a new feature called Family Sharing. This allows multiple Apple
IDs to share the same content. So you could set up a new Apple ID for your
son on his iPad, then next month when iOS 8 comes out, add him to a Family
Sharing group in which you or your wife are the Family Organiser. That way
there is o need to purchase the apps again.

I have an entire chapter on how to do this in my book, iOS 8 Without the
Eye, which will be released the same day iOS 8 is.

For now though, giving your son his own ID for iCloud services while keeping
the existing one for the store will fix the problem.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

 <http://mosen.org/> http://Mosen.org

 

On 13/08/2014, at 4:12 am, Josh < <mailto:lawdog...@comcast.net>
lawdog...@comcast.net> wrote:






Hello Everyone,

   I am wondering how to well as the subject line says break the connection
between the iPad that my son plays on and my iPhone. To explain a little
more the text messages I receive and send pop up on the iPad. Some of the
conversations between my wife and I regarding him does not need to be
discussed in front of him nor where he can freely look at it. Is there any
way to make the iPad quit receiving the messages that I am sending and
receiving without changing the account it is on? I want to keep the same
account so I do not have to repurchase the apps that he loves and are
inaccessible to me. Any help with this will be greatly appreciated.

 

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RE: Breaking the Connection Between iPad and iPhone

[Josh]

There use to be an option to select to not synch the various devices and it
was just a matter of going into the device and selecting it. Is that not
still there? It may not be there and that is why I am not finding it or I am
not looking in the right location one. Anyhow thank you for the information.


 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 12:52 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Breaking the Connection Between iPad and iPhone

 

Hi Josh, you could all continue to use the same Apple ID for the Store, but
each have different Apple IDs for all other services such as iCloud,
FaceTime and iMessage. Or simply create a new Apple ID for your son for
these other services, and sign him in to it.

Alternatively, Apple has announced that when iOS 8 comes out, it will be
introducing a new feature called Family Sharing. This allows multiple Apple
IDs to share the same content. So you could set up a new Apple ID for your
son on his iPad, then next month when iOS 8 comes out, add him to a Family
Sharing group in which you or your wife are the Family Organiser. That way
there is o need to purchase the apps again.

I have an entire chapter on how to do this in my book, iOS 8 Without the
Eye, which will be released the same day iOS 8 is.

For now though, giving your son his own ID for iCloud services while keeping
the existing one for the store will fix the problem.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

 

On 13/08/2014, at 4:12 am, Josh  wrote:





Hello Everyone,

   I am wondering how to well as the subject line says break the connection
between the iPad that my son plays on and my iPhone. To explain a little
more the text messages I receive and send pop up on the iPad. Some of the
conversations between my wife and I regarding him does not need to be
discussed in front of him nor where he can freely look at it. Is there any
way to make the iPad quit receiving the messages that I am sending and
receiving without changing the account it is on? I want to keep the same
account so I do not have to repurchase the apps that he loves and are
inaccessible to me. Any help with this will be greatly appreciated.

 

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Breaking the Connection Between iPad and iPhone

[Josh]

Hello Everyone,

   I am wondering how to well as the subject line says break the connection
between the iPad that my son plays on and my iPhone. To explain a little
more the text messages I receive and send pop up on the iPad. Some of the
conversations between my wife and I regarding him does not need to be
discussed in front of him nor where he can freely look at it. Is there any
way to make the iPad quit receiving the messages that I am sending and
receiving without changing the account it is on? I want to keep the same
account so I do not have to repurchase the apps that he loves and are
inaccessible to me. Any help with this will be greatly appreciated. 

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Information Transferring Across Devices

[Josh]

Hello Everyone,

We have just recently noticed that my wife's phone, my phone, and the
iPad are transferring information between them. This is great for most
things, but there is a little one here that doesn't need to be privy to
everything that my wife and I have stored in our phones. The little one is
allowed to use the iPad and it would be great if the information he was
compiling transferred to our phones, but not the other way around. 

I imagine that if we want the information that he is compiling to
transfer to our phone we will have to allow our information to transfer to
the iPad. I do recall there was a setting that allowed me to stop the
syncing of information between the iPod Touch my dad is using and the things
that were showing up in my phone. I just cannot recall what the setting is
so if anyone can assist with this setting change I would greatly appreciate
the help.   

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Amazon and Recorders

[Josh]

My wife and I purchased a new iPad last night for purposes of using it for
our college classes. She wants to use e textbooks and we downloaded the
Kindle application in order to do this. The first question is has anyone
used Amazon for these  purposes or what application would you all use in
order to accomplish this?

   Another thing we noticed last night after the purchase was made, was that
there is no voice memos application. I don't see this as a major problem
because although it does a good job with recordings I imagine that there are
better apps out there for recording and that will allow you to put them on
your computer. So, my second question is what recording applications are out
there that would allow a person to record an entire class lecture providing
there is enough room on the device and also allow you to transfer them to a
computer? Any help in guiding me with the two questions presented here will
be greatly appreciated.   

 

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Re: Virtrualizing Os X

[Josh Gregory]

I am not a moderator, however, please note that this is, by all means, illegal 
and is a violation of Apple's terms of use, you perform this operation at your 
own risk.
Thanks,
Josh

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 4, 2014, at 3:11 PM, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> In recent versions of Vmware Fusion it is possible to create a virtual 
> machine running recent versions of Os X client and all versions of Os X 
> server. To do this:
> 1. In the Mac App Store Download the version of Os X you wish to run in your 
> virtual machine. If you can go for Mavericks but if not Lion and Mountain 
> Lion are supported. You can usually download these from the purchased section 
> of the App Store.
> 2. When the installer  runs, do not continue but instead press command-q to 
> quit the installer. Failure to do this and the required .app file which you 
> will use later will be deleted during installation.
> 3. Now you're ready to create a new virtual machine in Fusion. So open Fusion 
> and press Command-N to run the new virtual machine assistant.
> 4. Choose to use an installation disk or image.
> Note
> You can also use the recovery partition to install Os X this way. This can be 
> found by first clicking the more options button. From this point on I will 
> assume you will be using the .app file for Os X you downloaded earlier.
> 5. When prompted select choose disk image... in the popup button. Locate the 
> .app file for Os X and press return to continue.
> 6. Since Fusion detects that this is an Os X installer all you need to do is 
> click finish button. You can also customize the virtual machine here by 
> clicking customize settings button. But I recommend you leave these alone for 
> now.
> 7. Start the virtual machine by clicking the startup button.
> Note
> For best results, please turn off VoiceOver on the host side. You can then 
> turn on VoiceOver inside the virtual machine to talk you through the 
> installer and to use Os X in general.
> If you have any problems or questions with these instructions please give us 
> a shout on or off list. I'm saying this since I am new to virtualizing Os X 
> myself. Also note the above instructions assume you are using Fusion 6. 
> Earlier versions may therefore have slightly different results.
> Happy virtualizing!
> Regards Chris
> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
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Re: Any accessible games for mac?

[Josh Gregory]

Yeah I have  RS too, I think the developer you mentioned does have a couple 
games up for the Mac.

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> On Apr 3, 2014, at 9:57 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> I love those, practicly adicted to them, been looking for a solitare game as 
> well, but have yet to find one, but may not be looking in the right place 
> either.  I've been trying to find a pinball game as well, and found several 
> free ones, but the one I tried to download, I couldn't find a way to get it 
> to start and haven't tried any of the others.
>  I really wish drakonus would redevelop their's; I miss that one with a 
> passion.
>> On Apr 3, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>> 
>> All of the rs games are accessible.
>> http://www.rsgames.org/rsgclient.php
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 3, 2014, at 9:20 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> can somebody recommend any accessible gaems for mac preferably mud imud, 
>>> thanks
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Re: How to adjust "web URL detected"

[Josh Gregory]

Yeah I don't know maybe I was thinking of something else.

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> On Apr 3, 2014, at 4:48 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>   I don't know if there is a VoiceOver preference.  I know in Text Edit, 
> there is a check box if you go to the Edit menu and look at the substitutions 
> submenu to enable or disable them.  However, I am not aware of a system wide 
> option or a VO option.
> .  
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
> 
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> Lion
> 
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> 
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 3, 2014, at 2:53 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>> I thought there was in voiceover utility under speech or something. Or 
>> announcements.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 3, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> There isn't a way to turn this feature off, I wish we had a way of turning 
>>> off pitch change.
>>> 
>>> Matt Dierckens
>>> Macintosh Trainer
>>> Blind Access Training
>>> www.blindaccesstraining.com
>>> 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 3, 2014, at 2:13 PM, Brian Unitt  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>> When I am reading an e-mail and encounter a web link, a voice like a 
>>>> chipmunk says "web URL detected"  I can't find anything in the VoiceOver 
>>>> utility that seems to control this. The message itself disrupts the 
>>>> reading and I would like to turn it off altogether, but failing that, I 
>>>> would like to at least adjust the pitch so it is not so annoying.
>>>> Thanks for any help,
>>>> Brian
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Re: How to adjust "web URL detected"

[Josh Gregory]

No there isn't.

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> On Apr 3, 2014, at 2:57 PM, "Scott Duck"  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> In IOS, in the vo settings, there is a on off switch for pitch change.  Not 
> sure if the Mac has something similar.
> Thanks,
> Scott Duck
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Josh Gregory
> Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2014 1:54 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to adjust "web URL detected"
>  
> I thought there was in voiceover utility under speech or something. Or 
> announcements.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 3, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> There isn't a way to turn this feature off, I wish we had a way of turning 
> off pitch change.
>  
> Matt Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
> 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4
>  
>  
> 
>  
> On Apr 3, 2014, at 2:13 PM, Brian Unitt  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi folks,
> When I am reading an e-mail and encounter a web link, a voice like a chipmunk 
> says "web URL detected"  I can't find anything in the VoiceOver utility that 
> seems to control this. The message itself disrupts the reading and I would 
> like to turn it off altogether, but failing that, I would like to at least 
> adjust the pitch so it is not so annoying.
> Thanks for any help,
> Brian
>  
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Re: How to adjust "web URL detected"

[Josh Gregory]

I thought there was in voiceover utility under speech or something. Or 
announcements.

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> On Apr 3, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> There isn't a way to turn this feature off, I wish we had a way of turning 
> off pitch change.
> 
> Matt Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
> 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 3, 2014, at 2:13 PM, Brian Unitt  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks,
>> When I am reading an e-mail and encounter a web link, a voice like a 
>> chipmunk says "web URL detected"  I can't find anything in the VoiceOver 
>> utility that seems to control this. The message itself disrupts the reading 
>> and I would like to turn it off altogether, but failing that, I would like 
>> to at least adjust the pitch so it is not so annoying.
>> Thanks for any help,
>> Brian
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Re: converting text to audio

[Josh Gregory]

Hi, highlight the text you want, press voice over plus shift plus m to go to 
the context menu, then click something like send to iTunes is a spoken track or 
something like that.

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> Hello can someone remind me how to convert  text to audio and send it to 
> iTunes?
> 
> Thanks,
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Re: Simulating a Mac on a PC

[Josh Gregory]

Yeah that also applies to AppleCare, you have to tell them that too. Or just 
call accessibility.

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> On Apr 2, 2014, at 7:19 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
> Hi there
> Somebody on this list said earlier that they had had less than a good 
> experience with one-to-one tutoring at the Apple store. I had a wonderful 
> experience because the Apple employee that worked with me have been a long 
> time MacUser. He really enjoyed computers and thought it was really cool to 
> work with a blind person. He told me that he blindfolding himself in order to 
> prepare to work with me. He did an excellent job, and if you get someone like 
> him, it will be wonderful for you.
> I think the key to having a good experience for a voiceover user is to make 
> Willowshore that the Apple Store understands that you are using voice over 
> from the very beginning. This means that when you set up appointments, you 
> should make real sure to tell them, maybe even put it in bold face all 
> capitals or something. Also, are used to give them time so that they had 
> plenty of opportunity to find someone that was ready for it.
> Sincerely,
> Gigi
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 2, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, Apple stores are set up like computer labs, with tables and stools. The 
>> employees at my local store are great about letting folks experiment. I 
>> poked around on a Mac for two hours one day before I made the decision to 
>> switch. I also played with a friend's Mac. He had had no idea about 
>> Voiceover.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> “Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog, it’s too 
>> dark to read.”—Groucho Marx
>> 
>>> On Apr 2, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There used to be things called a Hackintosh which was basically OSX 
>>> installed on a generic PC. There were even companies which would sell you 
>>> one but they have pretty much all been sued out of existence. Apples OSX 
>>> license doesn't let you install on non-Apple hardware since, at some level, 
>>> it's the software that sells the hardware. From what I recall, even if you 
>>> attempted it, you had to have the latest gee whiz PC parts before it would 
>>> work so the cost savings wasn't all that substantial. You couldn't just 
>>> clean off some old clunker from the basement and get it to install.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
 On 4/2/14 3:01 PM, Chris Apple boy wrote:
 See because Mac Os X is only available in the Mac App Store it is now 
 impossible to purchase it for devices other than a mac. So even if it 
 wasn't illegal you still have the restrictions and Apple certainly 
 reinforces these by only making it available in the Mac App Store.
 
 Regards Chris
 
 Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
 
>> On 02/04/2014 18:48, alberto wrote:
>> Hi, even with a bought copy you have those restrictions.
>> On Apr 2, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Scott Duck  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Chris,
>> You very well may be correct and it may be illegal any way that you do 
>> it,
>> if it is even possible. However, just so there is no confusion, I wasn't
>> talking about pirating it. I assume that, if I were to purchase a copy of
>> OSX, I could legally install it on anything that I like, just as one can
>> install Windows on a Mac if they own the copy of Windows that they are
>> installing. However, it may not even be possible to purchase OSX without 
>> a
>> Mac. Probably isn't, now that I think about it, as I don't think that 
>> they
>> sell it on CD any more. Anyway, just didn't want you to think that I was
>> trying to do something that I shouldn't.
>> Thanks,
>> Scott Duck
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Apple boy
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 11:12 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Simulating a Mac on a PC
>> 
>> I'm sure this is actually illegal under the Apple License terms for Mac 
>> Os X
>> but someone can prove me wrong if they like.
>> 
>> Regards Chris
>> 
>> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
>> 
>>> On 02/04/2014 16:17, Scott Duck wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Is there a relatively easy way to run OSX in a virtual environment on a
>> PC?
>>> I know that, doing it that way, I wouldn't get the stability of a Mac
>>> but it would give me a taste of using one. And, by relatively easy, I
>>> don't mean in 246 easy steps. LOL
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Scott Duck
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Re: more on the accounts problem with mac air

[Josh Gregory]

Have a look under users and groups, that should help somewhat.

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> On Apr 2, 2014, at 4:53 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
> wrote:
> 
> Ok.
> 
> I tried again to log on with my account on my mac air.  Turns out the caps 
> lock key wasn't engaged.
> 
> I did manage to get onto the machine, but got error messages about the 
> keychain password, and different services wanting to use the local items key 
> chain password.
> 
> I have no idea what this means.  Also, is there one central place for me to 
> go to reset the entire keychain for the laptop?  Seems like the keychain got 
> mucked up somehow.
> 
> I also want to put it back to not use the log on screen, but to boot into my 
> account straight off.  Do I do this in system prefs?  If so, where?  I can't 
> remember where to go for this, had a look, but nothing seemed appropriate.
> 
> thanks!
> Caitlyn
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Re: Simulating a Mac on a PC

[josh gregory]

No, even if you did buy it, which you can't without a mac, it still isn't legal.

On 4/2/14, Scott Duck  wrote:
> Hi Chris,
> You very well may be correct and it may be illegal any way that you do it,
> if it is even possible.  However, just so there is no confusion, I wasn't
> talking about pirating it.  I assume that, if I were to purchase a copy of
> OSX, I could legally install it on anything that I like, just as one can
> install Windows on a Mac if they own the copy of Windows that they are
> installing.  However, it may not even be possible to purchase OSX without a
> Mac.  Probably isn't, now that I think about it, as I don't think that they
> sell it on CD any more.  Anyway, just didn't want you to think that I was
> trying to do something that I shouldn't.
> Thanks,
> Scott Duck
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Apple boy
> Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 11:12 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Simulating a Mac on a PC
>
> I'm sure this is actually illegal under the Apple License terms for Mac Os
> X
> but someone can prove me wrong if they like.
>
> Regards Chris
>
> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
>
> On 02/04/2014 16:17, Scott Duck wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is there a relatively easy way to run OSX in a virtual environment on a
> PC?
>> I know that, doing it that way, I wouldn't get the stability of a Mac
>> but it would give me a taste of using one.  And, by relatively easy, I
>> don't mean in 246 easy steps.  LOL
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Scott Duck
>>
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Re: Simulating a Mac on a PC

[josh gregory]

Yes, it is.

On 4/2/14, alberto  wrote:
> I don't think so, but anyone can correct me if I am wrong.  I think that may
> even be illegal.
> On Apr 2, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Scott Duck  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Is there a relatively easy way to run OSX in a virtual environment on a
>> PC?  I know that, doing it that way, I wouldn't get the stability of a Mac
>> but it would give me a taste of using one.  And, by relatively easy, I
>> don't mean in 246 easy steps.  LOL
>> Thanks,
>> Scott Duck
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Re: Stability of the Mac

[josh gregory]

The one thing I will say mac has going for it among its many
advantages, is the ability to walk up to any mac and it just works.
Amazing as long as it has 10.4 or above which most do nowadays. A
little different with the iMac as I've just experienced (from the
laptop prospective) but definitely doable.

On 4/2/14, Phil Halton  wrote:
> That's my opinion as well, I still make extensive use  of spreadsheet and
> word processing applications beyond the basic uses and that's just not
> possible with numbers or pages on the IOS platforms.
> On Apr 2, 2014, at 1:35 AM, Maria and Joe Chapman 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi.  I find that an iPhone or iPad doesn't quite meet my needs.  I still
>> use a macbook primarily when I am at home. There are still things like
>> advanced word processing that are kind of difficult on a tablet or smart
>> phone. that's just my opinion though.
>> Blessings!
>> maria and Joe chapman
>> Email, iMessage & fb: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>> twitter: bubbygirl
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2 Apr 2014, at 12:12 pm, erik burggraaf 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I find my mac more stable than pc's although I so seldome use a pc these
>>> days and the ones I do use are tweaked down so they perform really well.
>>>
>>> I've been using a mack for 6 years now and have no reason to prefer a PC
>>> these days.  Having said that, this will be my last ever mac.  When it is
>>> ready to move on in another couple of years, the personal computer itself
>>> will be on the longtail and it just won't make any sense to invest in
>>> another personal computer, mac or PC.  In fact, an increasing number of
>>> my clients are just as effective on a tablet or smart phone as they are
>>> on a computer, and it meets all of their day to day computing needs very
>>> well, including: email, web browsing, web applications such as apps and
>>> mobile banking, OCR reading, bar code identification diabetes and other
>>> medical monitoring, non-verbal communication, literature access in
>>> braille, large print and audio, and more.  The world of office tasks has
>>> now opened up to us using IOS 7 and android 4.4.  Several printing
>>> solutions are accessible including the samsung one that I am currently
>>> using.  Simple audio production tasks are viable.  And we have access to
>>> features that aren't really viable on pc's such as security systems
>>> management, and GPS navigation.  Soon we'll have micro-location support
>>> and many other opportunities that will encourage us to leave the
>>> desktop/laptop world behind.  It may behoove you to simply invest more
>>> time learning IOS and picking up apps and accessories that enrich your
>>> experience in the mobile world, rather than investing in a switch to an
>>> expensive new technology that will be obsolete in three years.  We are
>>> just now stepping inside the time frame where cost vs efficiency of PC
>>> systems is about to become a serious concern in the consumer market.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
>>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>>
>>> On 2014-04-01, at 5:24 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>>
 I find the mac to be very stable, certainly far less problems than with
 windows. It's not perfect, no platform is, but I have 3 macs and have no
 desire to switch back to a PC.
 Original message:

> Hi Everyone,

> As I said previously, I am thinking about getting a Mac and the main
> reason is that I am tired of the increasing instability of the PC
> environment. My first question is, is this really different on a Mac?

> I am using JAWS 15 with Windows 8. Both are not all that stable. I have
> been a JAWS user for 17 years and I have noticed a definite progressive
> increase in instability with the last few releases. JAWS crashes
> frequently and, even if it doesn't crash, it often stops talking when
> errors occur with other applications. Then, there's Windows 8. I don't
> mind the Windows 8 interface but several times per week, I will have a
> problem that requires me to restart my computer. I did not have that
> nearly as much with Windows 7. Also, it isn't unusual for me to install
> a program which will, either directly or through add ins, make Windows
> and/or JAWS more unstable. I then have to decide rather the additional
> functionality is worth the increased instability. I'm just tired of all
> the crashes and reboots and having to use three or four screen readers
> because I have to run one when another one crashes.

> By contrast, my iPhone and iPad, while not perfect, are certainly more
> stable. VoiceOver seldom just stops working. Of course, every single
> app is not accessible and they do not all work correctly but any
> problems with an app are almost always confined only to that app. When
> an app crashes, it usually does not also cause VoiceOver or the device
> to crash. Is this also true of the M

Re: alex skipping, and ready boost

[Josh Gregory]

Yeah that was one thing I kind of liked about it, but I don't think there is.

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> On Apr 2, 2014, at 10:17 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> Hi all. So I don't know if this is a problem for anyone else, but sometimes, 
> Alex skips a syllable or so of a word when reading. Any way to fix this? 
> Also, is there a mac equivalent to the windows ready boost system?
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Re: Stability of the Mac

[Josh Gregory]

Do not believe that it is up to par with desktop solutions as far as office 
things go, you probably won't be doing any fancy graphics or tables or 
transitions on a smart phone. At least not any of the high-end stuff. And that 
isn't even considering accessibility as of yet

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> On Apr 2, 2014, at 10:08 AM, erik burggraaf  wrote:
> 
> Agreed,  High end audio, video and gravhic editing still require a desktop 
> solution.  Although, the average consumer can do work that looks farely pro 
> on a smartphone.
> 
> Data storage still requires a desktop solution although I am waiting for 
> tonido to be released for raspbian.  Then I can use a raspberry pi connected 
> to a storage tower for massife data storage and personal cloud services.
> 
> High-end gaming still requires a pc.
> 
> I haven't really put any office solutions through their paces on smartphones 
> yet.  Beyond knowing that they are now accessible I'm not sure what they are 
> really capable of and what not.
> 
> What else?
> 
> Have fun,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
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> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
> 
>> On 2014-04-01, at 9:08 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, If I may, and no disrespect, but a computer is still needed for some 
>> things that a tablet or smart phone cannot currently do. Having said that, I 
>> will give you that these devices can do a heck of a lot more than they could 
>> several years ago.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2014, at 9:12 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I find my mac more stable than pc's although I so seldome use a pc these 
>>> days and the ones I do use are tweaked down so they perform really well.
>>> 
>>> I've been using a mack for 6 years now and have no reason to prefer a PC 
>>> these days.  Having said that, this will be my last ever mac.  When it is 
>>> ready to move on in another couple of years, the personal computer itself 
>>> will be on the longtail and it just won't make any sense to invest in 
>>> another personal computer, mac or PC.  In fact, an increasing number of my 
>>> clients are just as effective on a tablet or smart phone as they are on a 
>>> computer, and it meets all of their day to day computing needs very well, 
>>> including: email, web browsing, web applications such as apps and mobile 
>>> banking, OCR reading, bar code identification diabetes and other medical 
>>> monitoring, non-verbal communication, literature access in braille, large 
>>> print and audio, and more.  The world of office tasks has now opened up to 
>>> us using IOS 7 and android 4.4.  Several printing solutions are accessible 
>>> including the samsung one that I am currently using.  Simple audio 
>>> production tasks are viable.  And we have access to features that aren't 
>>> really viable on pc's such as security systems management, and GPS 
>>> navigation.  Soon we'll have micro-location support and many other 
>>> opportunities that will encourage us to leave the desktop/laptop world 
>>> behind.  It may behoove you to simply invest more time learning IOS and 
>>> picking up apps and accessories that enrich your experience in the mobile 
>>> world, rather than investing in a switch to an expensive new technology 
>>> that will be obsolete in three years.  We are just now stepping inside the 
>>> time frame where cost vs efficiency of PC systems is about to become a 
>>> serious concern in the consumer market.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
>>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>> 
>>>> On 2014-04-01, at 5:24 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I find the mac to be very stable, certainly far less problems than with 
>>>> windows. It's not perfect, no platform is, but I have 3 macs and have no 
>>>> desire to switch back to a PC.
>>>> Original message:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>> 
>>>>> As I said previously, I am thinking about getting a Mac and the main 
>>>>> reason is that I am tired of the increasing instability of the PC 
>>>>> environment. My first question is, is this really different on a Mac?
>>>> 
>>>>> I am using JAWS 15 with Windows 8. Both are not all that stable. I have 
>>>>> been a JAWS user for 17 years and I have noticed a definite progressive 

Re: Waking up a virtual machine

[Josh Gregory]

The command is actually command and control f.

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> On Apr 2, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:
> 
> I do try pressing Shift command F when I first try waking up the machine, in
> case it has somehow gotten out of full screen mode, but it doesn't seem to
> help.
> 
> 
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> 
> Are you using Fusion in full screen mode? 
> 
> I found it worked  better in full screen.
> 
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Re: using virtual box

[Josh Gregory]

Unfortunately, you'll have to buy it, something like  VMware fusion, virtual 
box is not accessible.

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> On Apr 2, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> Hi all. I'm on my mac, trying to get virtual box to work. I went to the 
> terminal, and navigated to the folder of the VM, and typed virtual box then 
> the name of the vm, the filename that is, and nothing seems to work, just a 
> virtual box window. What can I do, or will I have to buy a product I'll 
> rarely use?
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Re: Productivity Software on the Mac

[Josh Gregory]

Yes that's correct. However, oddly enough, pages cannot open PDF files, only 
export to them.

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> On Apr 2, 2014, at 8:20 AM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
> 
> Well I see you're right. You can only export files to word, PDF, epub, Pages 
> 09, and text.
> I do know that textedit can do RTF.
> 
> Matt Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
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> 
> 
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> 
>> On Apr 2, 2014, at 8:12 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>> Weird, there was one format I know it said it couldn't support and I'm 
>> pretty sure it was RTF. Maybe I was wrong.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 2, 2014, at 8:06 AM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Textedit will support RTF and so will pages. With pages you just can't 
>>> write in RTF.
>>> 
>>> Matt Dierckens
>>> Macintosh Trainer
>>> Blind Access Training
>>> www.blindaccesstraining.com
>>> 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 2, 2014, at 7:59 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The one thing I don't like about it is that it does not support Rich text 
>>>> format files, this may seem a little picky but I think that a word 
>>>> processor such as pages should at least be able to support what I think is 
>>>> a pretty basic file format.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 2, 2014, at 7:45 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all. I have pages now, and I do like it. I kinda wish VO would 
>>>>> announce a heading as a heading and not just as bold 18 pt, unless, 
>>>>> that's all a heading is. 
>>>>>> On Apr 2, 2014, at 6:14 AM, Chris Apple boy  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Scott and all
>>>>>> All I can say is I really like both TextEdit and Pages on my Macbook Pro 
>>>>>> 2012 model. Numbers for the mac I plan to get in the near future as well 
>>>>>> as Keynote which is Apple's answer to Microsoft PowerPoint. I've heard 
>>>>>> great things though about the latest Numbers and Keynote all of which 
>>>>>> sound promising.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards Chris
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 02/04/2014 11:58, Scott Duck wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> OK, so far, so good.  It sounds like OSX is about as stable as IOS, 
>>>>>>> which is
>>>>>>> what I had hoped.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My next question regarding the Mac involves productivity.  How well does
>>>>>>> VoiceOver do with word processing and spreadsheets?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It is my understanding that Text Edit is very accessible.  Is this 
>>>>>>> correct?
>>>>>>> What about Pages?  Spell check is very cumbersome on IOS if you are 
>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>> with a large document.  I assume that spell check is better on the Mac. 
>>>>>>>  Is
>>>>>>> it?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am also very interested in Numbers.  I do a lot of work with 
>>>>>>> spreadsheets.
>>>>>>> Numbers for IOS is better than it used to be but, in terms of using it 
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> VoiceOver, it's still rather cumbersome and not all that great if you 
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> much work to do.  Is Numbers for the Mac better?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Scott Duck
>>>>>> 
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Re: Productivity Software on the Mac

[Josh Gregory]

Weird, there was one format I know it said it couldn't support and I'm pretty 
sure it was RTF. Maybe I was wrong.

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> On Apr 2, 2014, at 8:06 AM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
> 
> Textedit will support RTF and so will pages. With pages you just can't write 
> in RTF.
> 
> Matt Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
> 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 2, 2014, at 7:59 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>> The one thing I don't like about it is that it does not support Rich text 
>> format files, this may seem a little picky but I think that a word processor 
>> such as pages should at least be able to support what I think is a pretty 
>> basic file format.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 2, 2014, at 7:45 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all. I have pages now, and I do like it. I kinda wish VO would announce 
>>> a heading as a heading and not just as bold 18 pt, unless, that's all a 
>>> heading is. 
>>>> On Apr 2, 2014, at 6:14 AM, Chris Apple boy  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Scott and all
>>>> All I can say is I really like both TextEdit and Pages on my Macbook Pro 
>>>> 2012 model. Numbers for the mac I plan to get in the near future as well 
>>>> as Keynote which is Apple's answer to Microsoft PowerPoint. I've heard 
>>>> great things though about the latest Numbers and Keynote all of which 
>>>> sound promising.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards Chris
>>>> 
>>>> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
>>>> 
>>>>> On 02/04/2014 11:58, Scott Duck wrote:
>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> OK, so far, so good.  It sounds like OSX is about as stable as IOS, which 
>>>>> is
>>>>> what I had hoped.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> My next question regarding the Mac involves productivity.  How well does
>>>>> VoiceOver do with word processing and spreadsheets?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> It is my understanding that Text Edit is very accessible.  Is this 
>>>>> correct?
>>>>> What about Pages?  Spell check is very cumbersome on IOS if you are 
>>>>> working
>>>>> with a large document.  I assume that spell check is better on the Mac.  
>>>>> Is
>>>>> it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am also very interested in Numbers.  I do a lot of work with 
>>>>> spreadsheets.
>>>>> Numbers for IOS is better than it used to be but, in terms of using it 
>>>>> with
>>>>> VoiceOver, it's still rather cumbersome and not all that great if you have
>>>>> much work to do.  Is Numbers for the Mac better?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Scott Duck
>>>> 
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Re: Productivity Software on the Mac

[Josh Gregory]

The one thing I don't like about it is that it does not support Rich text 
format files, this may seem a little picky but I think that a word processor 
such as pages should at least be able to support what I think is a pretty basic 
file format.

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> On Apr 2, 2014, at 7:45 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> Hi all. I have pages now, and I do like it. I kinda wish VO would announce a 
> heading as a heading and not just as bold 18 pt, unless, that's all a heading 
> is. 
>> On Apr 2, 2014, at 6:14 AM, Chris Apple boy  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Scott and all
>> All I can say is I really like both TextEdit and Pages on my Macbook Pro 
>> 2012 model. Numbers for the mac I plan to get in the near future as well as 
>> Keynote which is Apple's answer to Microsoft PowerPoint. I've heard great 
>> things though about the latest Numbers and Keynote all of which sound 
>> promising.
>> 
>> Regards Chris
>> 
>> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
>> 
>>> On 02/04/2014 11:58, Scott Duck wrote:
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> OK, so far, so good.  It sounds like OSX is about as stable as IOS, which is
>>> what I had hoped.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My next question regarding the Mac involves productivity.  How well does
>>> VoiceOver do with word processing and spreadsheets?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It is my understanding that Text Edit is very accessible.  Is this correct?
>>> What about Pages?  Spell check is very cumbersome on IOS if you are working
>>> with a large document.  I assume that spell check is better on the Mac.  Is
>>> it?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am also very interested in Numbers.  I do a lot of work with spreadsheets.
>>> Numbers for IOS is better than it used to be but, in terms of using it with
>>> VoiceOver, it's still rather cumbersome and not all that great if you have
>>> much work to do.  Is Numbers for the Mac better?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Scott Duck
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Re: Stability of the Mac

[Josh Gregory]

The point I was going to make, which I guess doesn't make any sense now… Is 
that if it were a standard format you could use something like  music converter 
Pro to convert it.

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> On Apr 2, 2014, at 12:50 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> Humanware should have developed a tool for the mac, or, better yet, it should 
> have used mp3 in the first place instead of a nonstandard format.
>> On Apr 1, 2014, at 11:40 PM, Kerri  wrote:
>> 
>> the only thing I wish the mac would do--and this is no fault of the mac--is 
>> have the ability to convert the notes from a victor reader stream so I don't 
>> have to use humanWare companion.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2014, at 9:31 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, you can even reinstall your operating system completely without 
>>> sighted help, this is something windows does not provide. If someone 
>>> offered me a windows PC for free, I would say, thanks, but no thanks. the 
>>> mac does everything I need, and does it better than windows.
 On Apr 1, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
 
 All I have to say is that Mac is much much more stable than Windows with a 
 screen reader. If things go wrong, I rarely feel I'm out of control. I am 
 very rarely left in the middle of doing something without speech whereas 
 on Windows it was and still is a frequent occurrence.  I feel much more in 
 control on my Mac.  
 
 Andrew
> On 1 Apr 2014, at 20:21, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> 
> Jenine, I can basically echo what you say. I was a windows user from the 
> windows 95 os. In fact, I worked for Microsoft for three years and so had 
> to believe in something that provided me with my bread and butter, and of 
> course, chocolate. (grin) However, I could crash any windows system with 
> great ease. Some of it is the OS itself, which, although it is better in 
> versions 7 and 8, still has more crashing issues than Mac. Some of it, 
> probably most of it, is due to the fact the the screen reading software 
> is separate from the os. this has always caused instability and i don't 
> see that changing any time soon.
> 
> When it comes to iOS, there's no contest in my oppinion. Talks and Mobile 
> speaks and anything else is just so much more fickle than is the iOS. I, 
> and lots of people i know, struggled constantly with crashes and lock-ups 
> and having to turn the phone on and off a great number of times even in a 
> day.
> 
> I am very happy with both mac os and ios platforms andwould not want to 
> give them up.
> 
> . on apr 1, 2014, at 2:26 pm, jenine stanley  
> wrote:
> 
> this is an interesting question. from just an average user point of view, 
> i have been using my macbook pro since early february and use a windows 
> laptop for work. they literally sit side by side on my desk. 
> 
> i had used the iphone since 2011 so was sort of familiar with how 
> voiceover works and love it on the ios platform that said, it's very 
> different on the mac or os side. 
> 
> speaking first to stability, i managed to crash the mbp twice in the 
> first week but literally have not made the speech stop since then. has my 
> mbp slowed down or acted strangely a few times without explanation? yes, 
> but it's come back to its original performance soon after these fits. 
> 
> my windows machine frequently hangs up both in the operating system in 
> general and because of screen reader/video issues. outlook is really bad 
> about this and i usually have to reboot at least once a day. yes, i 
> maintain my windows machine well with weekly cleaning and such but ... 
> 
> the one thing that you will find difficult at first but which, if you 
> continue to plug away at it will soon become second nature, is the whole 
> concept of interacting with things. i hated it at first and still am not 
> fond of it. unlike the ios realm, you have to take an extra step to 
> access some things using voice over. once you get used to it though and 
> combine quick nav with the regular vo operation, and ask this list a ton 
> of stupid questions, :) you'll be fine. 
> 
> i really like the variety of quality voices available with vo too. it's 
> fast and responsive. i'm sold. be sure though to give yourself some time 
> and be patient. beprepared to read over and over any and all 
> instructions, podcasts and other things about switching, commands and 
> apps. 
> jenine stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> on apr 1, 2014, at 2:14 pm, scott rumery  wrote:
> 
> hello scott,
> 
> you will probably get a lot of varying opinions on this topic so you will 
> have to decide which ones you will take seriously or not. having said 
> this let me first tell you that ever since i switched to u

Re: Stability of the Mac

[Josh Gregory]

That's true, I can definitely see your point there, and something I admit I 
didn't really think of.

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> On Apr 1, 2014, at 10:53 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
> Yes, but there are some folks who could get by with an IOS device only. If 
> you do wanted BARD, email, and the ability to write text files, you could 
> very easily just use your iPhone, maybe with a keyboard. I know a blind gal 
> right now that, if she got a computer, would be better off with an iPhone 
> instead of what she might be about to do because somebody is talking her into 
> it. 
> 
> There is an organization here in Texas that gives away Windows computers to 
> blind people. Sounds real good right? The only thing is that they are giving 
> these computers to blind people that are unable to get them through the state 
> and in most cases, as far as I can tell, usually people with very low income. 
> However, there's no training, and they are giving them to people, for the 
> most part, who know nothing about computers. They come right out and say that 
> you have to have someone on hand to help you learn your system because they 
> don't do it. The other thing they do is to put the demo version of WindowEyes 
> in the computer, and then the receivers of these computers that they will 
> need to get WindowEyes when the time runs out. 
> 
> My friend is considering this, and I told her to make sure that the person 
> that was helping her get this computer was going to hebbp her later, and I 
> warned her about getting WindowEyes later. She could NVDA in there, but then 
> she would have to to learn a new screen reader, and this lady knows just 
> about nothing concerning computers. I'm glad she told me she was thinking 
> about it. 
> 
> If she were to get an IOS device, she wouldn't have this problem. In fact, 
> she wouldn't have this problem if this same organization would figure out a 
> way to give some of these people Macs. At least they wouldn't have to get 
> screen reader software later. I recently heard a talk given by a 
> representative of this organization, and I asked him if they would be 
> receptive to other computers. He said yes, but then he sort blew off my 
> concerns when I started to mention the issues above. 
> 
> Regards, 
> Gigi 
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2014, at 8:08 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, If I may, and no disrespect, but a computer is still needed for some 
>> things that a tablet or smart phone cannot currently do. Having said that, I 
>> will give you that these devices can do a heck of a lot more than they could 
>> several years ago.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2014, at 9:12 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I find my mac more stable than pc's although I so seldome use a pc these 
>>> days and the ones I do use are tweaked down so they perform really well.
>>> 
>>> I've been using a mack for 6 years now and have no reason to prefer a PC 
>>> these days.  Having said that, this will be my last ever mac.  When it is 
>>> ready to move on in another couple of years, the personal computer itself 
>>> will be on the longtail and it just won't make any sense to invest in 
>>> another personal computer, mac or PC.  In fact, an increasing number of my 
>>> clients are just as effective on a tablet or smart phone as they are on a 
>>> computer, and it meets all of their day to day computing needs very well, 
>>> including: email, web browsing, web applications such as apps and mobile 
>>> banking, OCR reading, bar code identification diabetes and other medical 
>>> monitoring, non-verbal communication, literature access in braille, large 
>>> print and audio, and more.  The world of office tasks has now opened up to 
>>> us using IOS 7 and android 4.4.  Several printing solutions are accessible 
>>> including the samsung one that I am currently using.  Simple audio 
>>> production tasks are viable.  And we have access to features that aren't 
>>> really viable on pc's such as security systems management, and GPS 
>>> navigation.  Soon we'll have micro-location support and many other 
>>> opportunities that will encourage us to leave the desktop/laptop world 
>>> behind.  It may behoove you to simply invest more time learning IOS and 
>>> picking up apps and accessories that enrich your experience in the mobile 
>>> world, rather than investing in a switch to an expensive new technology 
>>> that will be obsolete in three years.  We are just now stepping inside the 
>>> time frame where cost vs e

Re: Stability of the Mac

[Josh Gregory]

Hi, If I may, and no disrespect, but a computer is still needed for some things 
that a tablet or smart phone cannot currently do. Having said that, I will give 
you that these devices can do a heck of a lot more than they could several 
years ago.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 1, 2014, at 9:12 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:
> 
> I find my mac more stable than pc's although I so seldome use a pc these days 
> and the ones I do use are tweaked down so they perform really well.
> 
> I've been using a mack for 6 years now and have no reason to prefer a PC 
> these days.  Having said that, this will be my last ever mac.  When it is 
> ready to move on in another couple of years, the personal computer itself 
> will be on the longtail and it just won't make any sense to invest in another 
> personal computer, mac or PC.  In fact, an increasing number of my clients 
> are just as effective on a tablet or smart phone as they are on a computer, 
> and it meets all of their day to day computing needs very well, including: 
> email, web browsing, web applications such as apps and mobile banking, OCR 
> reading, bar code identification diabetes and other medical monitoring, 
> non-verbal communication, literature access in braille, large print and 
> audio, and more.  The world of office tasks has now opened up to us using IOS 
> 7 and android 4.4.  Several printing solutions are accessible including the 
> samsung one that I am currently using.  Simple audio production tasks are 
> viable.  And we have access to features that aren't really viable on pc's 
> such as security systems management, and GPS navigation.  Soon we'll have 
> micro-location support and many other opportunities that will encourage us to 
> leave the desktop/laptop world behind.  It may behoove you to simply invest 
> more time learning IOS and picking up apps and accessories that enrich your 
> experience in the mobile world, rather than investing in a switch to an 
> expensive new technology that will be obsolete in three years.  We are just 
> now stepping inside the time frame where cost vs efficiency of PC systems is 
> about to become a serious concern in the consumer market.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
> 
>> On 2014-04-01, at 5:24 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> I find the mac to be very stable, certainly far less problems than with 
>> windows. It's not perfect, no platform is, but I have 3 macs and have no 
>> desire to switch back to a PC.
>> Original message:
>> 
>>> Hi Everyone,
>> 
>>> As I said previously, I am thinking about getting a Mac and the main reason 
>>> is that I am tired of the increasing instability of the PC environment. My 
>>> first question is, is this really different on a Mac?
>> 
>>> I am using JAWS 15 with Windows 8. Both are not all that stable. I have 
>>> been a JAWS user for 17 years and I have noticed a definite progressive 
>>> increase in instability with the last few releases. JAWS crashes frequently 
>>> and, even if it doesn’t crash, it often stops talking when errors occur 
>>> with other applications. Then, there’s Windows 8. I don’t mind the Windows 
>>> 8 interface but several times per week, I will have a problem that requires 
>>> me to restart my computer. I did not have that nearly as much with Windows 
>>> 7. Also, it isn’t unusual for me to install a program which will, either 
>>> directly or through add ins, make Windows and/or JAWS more unstable. I then 
>>> have to decide rather the additional functionality is worth the increased 
>>> instability. I’m just tired of all the crashes and reboots and having to 
>>> use three or four screen readers because I have to run one when another one 
>>> crashes.
>> 
>>> By contrast, my iPhone and iPad, while not perfect, are certainly more 
>>> stable. VoiceOver seldom just stops working. Of course, every single app is 
>>> not accessible and they do not all work correctly but any problems with an 
>>> app are almost always confined only to that app. When an app crashes, it 
>>> usually does not also cause VoiceOver or the device to crash. Is this also 
>>> true of the Mac?
>> 
>>> I have certainly used technology enough to know that none of it is perfect. 
>>> However, I would like something that is better than the PC, when it comes 
>>> to stability. Over all, in your experience, is the Mac more stable?
>> 
>>> Thanks,
>> 
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Re: Stability of the Mac

[Josh Gregory]

That's true, didn't think of that.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 1, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Chris Apple boy  wrote:
> 
> Actually there are a few audio games now for Mac Os X, namely a couple by the 
> good old Draconis Entertainment, others may exist as well which I do not know 
> about.
> 
> Regards Chris
> 
> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
> 
>> On 01/04/2014 16:59, Josh Gregory wrote:
>> Yes, the Mac seems to be a lot more stable. I don't know if it was the 
>> laptop I had or what, but every time you would have to reboot it, you 
>> weren't sure if it would come back. Not going to really go into that but 
>> let's just say it didn't work a lot of the time. And as long as you're not 
>> into audio games and things like that, the Mac is definitely a good choice 
>> and  very stable.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2014, at 11:51 AM, alberto  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, I personally find  the mac platform extremely stable.  I haven’t had a 
>>> single app crash on me to the point where it crashed the whole system all 
>>> crash’s were contained within the app itself.  As for an added bonus in my 
>>> opinion you don’t have to pay those jaws fees with voice over since it 
>>> already comes integrated in to the OS itself.  A pc for me becomes 
>>> extremely expensive if you want to be up to date with your screen reader.
>>>> On Apr 1, 2014, at 9:44 AM, Scott Duck  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>> 
>>>> As I said previously, I am thinking about getting a Mac and the main 
>>>> reason is that I am tired of the increasing instability of the PC 
>>>> environment.  My first question is, is this really different on a Mac?
>>>> 
>>>> I am using JAWS 15 with Windows 8.  Both are not all that stable.  I have 
>>>> been a JAWS user for 17 years and I have noticed a definite progressive 
>>>> increase in instability with the last few releases.  JAWS crashes 
>>>> frequently and, even if it doesn’t crash, it often stops talking when 
>>>> errors occur with other applications.  Then, there’s Windows 8.  I don’t 
>>>> mind the Windows 8 interface but several times per week, I will have a 
>>>> problem that requires me to restart my computer.  I did not have that 
>>>> nearly as much with Windows 7.  Also, it isn’t unusual for me to install a 
>>>> program which will, either directly or through add ins, make Windows 
>>>> and/or JAWS more unstable.  I then have to decide rather the additional 
>>>> functionality is worth the increased instability.  I’m just tired of all 
>>>> the crashes and reboots and having to use three or four screen readers 
>>>> because I have to run one when another one crashes.
>>>> 
>>>> By contrast, my iPhone and iPad, while not perfect, are certainly more 
>>>> stable.  VoiceOver seldom just stops working.  Of course, every single app 
>>>> is not accessible and they do not all work correctly but any problems with 
>>>> an app are almost always confined only to that app.  When an app crashes, 
>>>> it usually does not also cause VoiceOver or the device to crash.  Is this 
>>>> also true of the Mac?
>>>> 
>>>> I have certainly used technology enough to know that none of it is 
>>>> perfect.  However, I would like something that is better than the PC, when 
>>>> it comes to stability.  Over all, in your experience, is the Mac more 
>>>> stable?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Scott Duck
>>>> 
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Re: Formatting an SD Card

[Josh Gregory]

I'm pretty sure the erase does format, you have to select the format you want 
from the pop-up button if I understand what you're talking about correctly.

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> On Apr 1, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> I have a friend who wishes to format his SD card.  We found an Erase option, 
> but we cannot find the option to format the card.  Assistance appreciated.
> 
> Les
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Re: Stability of the Mac

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Yes, the Mac seems to be a lot more stable. I don't know if it was the laptop I 
had or what, but every time you would have to reboot it, you weren't sure if it 
would come back. Not going to really go into that but let's just say it didn't 
work a lot of the time. And as long as you're not into audio games and things 
like that, the Mac is definitely a good choice and  very stable.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 1, 2014, at 11:51 AM, alberto  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I personally find  the mac platform extremely stable.  I haven’t had a 
> single app crash on me to the point where it crashed the whole system all 
> crash’s were contained within the app itself.  As for an added bonus in my 
> opinion you don’t have to pay those jaws fees with voice over since it 
> already comes integrated in to the OS itself.  A pc for me becomes extremely 
> expensive if you want to be up to date with your screen reader.
>> On Apr 1, 2014, at 9:44 AM, Scott Duck  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Everyone,
>>  
>> As I said previously, I am thinking about getting a Mac and the main reason 
>> is that I am tired of the increasing instability of the PC environment.  My 
>> first question is, is this really different on a Mac?
>>  
>> I am using JAWS 15 with Windows 8.  Both are not all that stable.  I have 
>> been a JAWS user for 17 years and I have noticed a definite progressive 
>> increase in instability with the last few releases.  JAWS crashes frequently 
>> and, even if it doesn’t crash, it often stops talking when errors occur with 
>> other applications.  Then, there’s Windows 8.  I don’t mind the Windows 8 
>> interface but several times per week, I will have a problem that requires me 
>> to restart my computer.  I did not have that nearly as much with Windows 7.  
>> Also, it isn’t unusual for me to install a program which will, either 
>> directly or through add ins, make Windows and/or JAWS more unstable.  I then 
>> have to decide rather the additional functionality is worth the increased 
>> instability.  I’m just tired of all the crashes and reboots and having to 
>> use three or four screen readers because I have to run one when another one 
>> crashes.
>>  
>> By contrast, my iPhone and iPad, while not perfect, are certainly more 
>> stable.  VoiceOver seldom just stops working.  Of course, every single app 
>> is not accessible and they do not all work correctly but any problems with 
>> an app are almost always confined only to that app.  When an app crashes, it 
>> usually does not also cause VoiceOver or the device to crash.  Is this also 
>> true of the Mac?
>>  
>> I have certainly used technology enough to know that none of it is perfect.  
>> However, I would like something that is better than the PC, when it comes to 
>> stability.  Over all, in your experience, is the Mac more stable?
>>  
>> Thanks,
>> Scott Duck
>> 
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Re: Experiences with Canvas, the Learning Management platform?

[Josh Gregory]

Hi, perhaps there are later versions that might be accessible?

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> On Apr 1, 2014, at 11:09 AM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
> 
> It was one of the most miserable experiences I ever had.
> Supposedly Canvas has been declared accessible by the NFB. They must have 
> gotten big bucks for that one because frankly it didn't work well with any 
> browser on any platform. There is a major accessibility commentary on it that 
> I might be able to find a link too, pretty scathing overall. If I were a 
> student, I'd be filing a complaint with my university on this one for sure. I 
> was taking an extension course and ultimately dropped it after trying lots of 
> workarounds people suggested. Safari was about my worst experience.
> 
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2014, at 5:24 AM, Mike Busboom  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> Has anyone ever used a Learning Management platform called Canvas?  If so, 
>> can you tell me how usable it is from an accessibility standpoint?  Will it 
>> work well with Safari on the Mac?  Instructure, the company that produces 
>> canvas has also created apps for the iPad.  How usable are they?
>> 
>> My gratitude as always,
>> 
>> Mike
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Re: mac os7 with outspoken

[Josh]

get it from www.eurpod.net/vmware
get the os8.rar file.


using windows7 laptop

On 2/25/2014 3:53 AM, Chris H wrote:

Woa! What emulator is this and where can we get it? Sounds interesting!

Regards Chris

On 24/02/2014 22:24, Josh wrote:

Hi

I am running mac os7 with outspoken in an emulator under windows. does
anyone have a list of outspoken commands? also what applications and
games work with outspoken and how do I install them into mac os7 
emulator?


Josh





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Re: mac os7 with outspoken

[Josh]

it is very different. there is no interacting with objects and stop 
interacting. and you use the numPad for everything almost.



using windows7 laptop

On 2/24/2014 7:54 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:

How does that differ from voiceover?
On Feb 24, 2014, at 7:30 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:


It is a screen-reader used in early Mac operating systems. It's not used in Mac 
Os X.

Teresa

Slow down; you'll get there faster.

On Feb 24, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:


Ok, looks like I'm out of the loop here, what's outspoken?
On Feb 24, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:


Hi,

Wow, this goes way back.  eMail me off-list and I'll get you something.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 24, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Josh  wrote:


Hi

I am running mac os7 with outspoken in an emulator under windows. does anyone 
have a list of outspoken commands? also what applications and games work with 
outspoken and how do I install them into mac os7 emulator?

Josh

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Re: mac os7 with outspoken

[Josh]

I never heard of intelitalk. outspoken is for windows 3.1 windows95 and 
mac os7 and os8.


using windows7 laptop

On 2/24/2014 7:53 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:

Was that the same as Intelitalk, or was that a completely different program?  
One of my classmates and I used to use it on occasion along with prowords, and 
I liked its speach as opposed to the echo, but the program itself was extremely 
slow.
On Feb 24, 2014, at 7:24 PM, Josh wrote:


outspoken was the first graphical screen reader made for mac and windows back 
in the late 1980s and through the mid 1990s.
made by alva.

using windows7 laptop

On 2/24/2014 7:20 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:

Ok, looks like I'm out of the loop here, what's outspoken?
On Feb 24, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:


Hi,

Wow, this goes way back.  eMail me off-list and I'll get you something.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 24, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Josh  wrote:


Hi

I am running mac os7 with outspoken in an emulator under windows. does anyone 
have a list of outspoken commands? also what applications and games work with 
outspoken and how do I install them into mac os7 emulator?

Josh

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Re: mac os7 with outspoken

[Josh]

outspoken was the first graphical screen reader made for mac and windows 
back in the late 1980s and through the mid 1990s.

made by alva.

using windows7 laptop

On 2/24/2014 7:20 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:

Ok, looks like I'm out of the loop here, what's outspoken?
On Feb 24, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:


Hi,

Wow, this goes way back.  eMail me off-list and I'll get you something.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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Hi

I am running mac os7 with outspoken in an emulator under windows. does anyone 
have a list of outspoken commands? also what applications and games work with 
outspoken and how do I install them into mac os7 emulator?

Josh

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mac os7 with outspoken

[Josh]

Hi

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anyone have a list of outspoken commands? also what applications and 
games work with outspoken and how do I install them into mac os7 emulator?


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Draconis Entertainment Releases mini title for Mac OS X – SilverDollar

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Howdy partner, and welcome to the Silver Dollar Saloon!

Draconis Entertainment revisits the popular saloon of the old west featured in 
many of its audio games for the blind and visually impaired with a new mini 
title for Mac OS X! (Coming later to Windows PC's.)

Primarily intended for the blind and visually impaired, SilverDollar offers 
three mini games that serve as both a great introduction to audio games for new 
players, and  addictive fun for experienced ones. 

SilverDollar has no visual elements. Use your fingers, ears, and wits to engage 
in some western fun.

So put on your 10 gallon hat, partner, and get into a little trouble at the old 
west's premier watering hole for outlaws and gunslingers alike.

• Start a brawl with the Silver Dollar's resident tough guy.
• Prove yourself a gunslinger by testing your shooting skills, blasting flying 
crockery out of the air.
• Spend a little time at the one-armed bandit.
• Features many favorite characters from previous Draconis titles, including 
Old Man Stanley.
• Audio hints to help newcomers navigate the game menus with their ears.
• In app instructions for all the mini games.

Other mini games are planned for future updates. Have something you'd like to 
see? Let us know.

SilverDollar is available in the Mac App Store for $1.99 USD at the following 
link:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/silverdollar/id591523274?mt=12

We are open to questions on this title, or Draconis in general. As always, we 
don't comment on unannounced titles, but we will do our best to answer 
questions.

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ChangeReaction 2.0.4 with fixes for some Snow Leopard users is now available

[Josh de Lioncourt]

Last week, Stacey reported a problem running ChangeReaction 2.0.2 on her Snow 
Leopard machine. With her help, and the help of one of our beta testers, we 
managed to track down the problem, and an update which address this problem and 
another is now available in the Mac App Store.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/changereaction/id578086731?mt=12

If you do not see version 2.0.4 in the App Store, it may not have hit the store 
of your area yet, but should very soon.

Thanks all.

Josh

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Re: Update on ChangeReaction and Stacey's Issue

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Though it has been a while, ChangeReaction for Windows did get numerous updates 
with bug fixes and such. The legacy ESP Softworks code was unwieldy and 
difficult to work with. We've designed our new game engine to make it much 
easier to update apps, and of course the Mac App Store helps with this, too.

On Dec 14, 2012, at 4:33 AM, Chris H  wrote:

> That's pretty cool updates to this game will be released just like that. On 
> the Windows version I think only one version was released and no updates that 
> I can recall anyway.
> 
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> 
> On 13/12/2012 23:53, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> We have an update pending review for ChangeReaction, so as soon as Apple 
>> approves it, it will be available.
>> 
>> With Stacey's help, as well as the help of one of our beta testers, we were 
>> able to find the problem that occurs on some older Macs running Snow 
>> Leopard, and it is fixed now, along with another very minor bug that someone 
>> found. (You can pause the game during the intro sequence leading up to the 
>> starting pistol, which causes problems as there is nothing to pause yet at 
>> that point.)
>> 
>> Thanks to Stacey, and we here at Draconis hope that everyone is enjoying the 
>> game. There are more titles to come, and your support means the world, as it 
>> will continue to allow us to make great games.
>> 
>>  Josh
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Update on ChangeReaction and Stacey's Issue

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Hi all,


We have an update pending review for ChangeReaction, so as soon as Apple 
approves it, it will be available.

With Stacey's help, as well as the help of one of our beta testers, we were 
able to find the problem that occurs on some older Macs running Snow Leopard, 
and it is fixed now, along with another very minor bug that someone found. (You 
can pause the game during the intro sequence leading up to the starting pistol, 
which causes problems as there is nothing to pause yet at that point.)

Thanks to Stacey, and we here at Draconis hope that everyone is enjoying the 
game. There are more titles to come, and your support means the world, as it 
will continue to allow us to make great games.

    Josh

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Re: Changereaction: A new game from Draconess intertainment for blind in the Mac app store

[Josh de Lioncourt]

Hi Teresa,

Have you tried either of the variations yet? LooseChange is my personal 
favorite.

Very glad you're enjoying the game. We have more on the way! Stay tuned!

    Josh


On Dec 12, 2012, at 3:13 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> Really fun game. I'm looking forward to more. I actually used to play this 
> game in Windows. Great job, guys. When I switched, games were the thing I was 
> really missing from Windows.
> 
> Thanks again!
> 
> Teresa
> 
> 
> Slow down; you'll get there faster.
> 
> On Dec 12, 2012, at 12:10 PM, "Daniel Miller"  wrote:
> 
>> Anything beyond core 2 duo is 64bit.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 2:06 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Changereaction: A new game from Draconess intertainment for
>> blind in the Mac app store
>> 
>> Okay, I have a 2.8 GHZ Intel Core i7 processor.  Is that 64 Bit?  Thanks.
>> 
>> Les
>> On Dec 12, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Josh de Lioncourt 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> To check if your Mac is 64 bit:
>>> 
>>> Go to Apple menu->About this Mac. In the window that appears, it will tell
>> you the type of processor that is in your Mac. If it is Core Solo or Core
>> Duo, it is 32 bit. If it is Core2 Duo, or anything later than that, it is 64
>> bit.
>>> 
>>> If you do have a 64 bit Mac, contact me off list and we will work with you
>> to find the problem.
>>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Stacey Robinson 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Josh,
>>>> I don't know if my machine is 64 bit. How do I find out?
>>>> On Dec 12, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Stacey,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The game should run on Snow Leopard, though it does required a 64-bit
>> machine. Do you know if your Mac is 64-bit?
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you continue to have problems, you can contact me off-list, and we
>> can try to work through it. If it is a problem on our end, we will do our
>> best to track it down and release an update that corrects it for you and
>> anyone else who may be experiencing it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We've worked very hard to make ChangeReaction the very best it can be,
>> and if there's a problem, we want to know about it and hopefully find a
>> solution.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 12, 2012, at 1:23 PM, Stacey Robinson 
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Josh,
>>>>>> I've tried redownloading the game and it still won't open.
>>>>>> Will it run on SnowLeopard?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 12, 2012, at 12:01 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The audio is at least on par with all of our old games. Technology has
>> come a long way int he last ten years, and it is not necessary for audio
>> games to be huge anymore. You can hear a sample of the game audio here:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://dracoent.com/audio/trailers/CRTrailer.mp3
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It is very possible to use compressed audio that decompresses on
>> demand these days for desktop machines. iOS devices are another matter, as
>> they aren't quite powerful enough for that yet.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 12, 2012, at 12:53 PM, "Daniel Miller" 
>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Josh,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm finding it hard to believe that that app is self-contained in 
>>>>>>>> a 5MB download. The audio must be incredibly, incredibly horrible 
>>>>>>>> if that's the case.
>>>>>>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Josh de 
>>>>>>>> Lioncourt
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:47 AM
>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Changereaction: A new game from Draco

Re: Changereaction: A new game from Draconess intertainment for blind in the Mac app store

[Josh de Lioncourt]

Yes, you have a 64-bit Mac. If you are running Lion or Mountain Lion, this 
isn't even a problem you need to worry about, because those versions of the OS 
only run on 64 bit.

For those interested, we've gotten the error report from Stacey, tracked down 
the problem which only occurs on some older Macs running Snow Leopard, and are 
in the process of preparing an update to submit to Apple.

On Dec 12, 2012, at 3:06 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:

> Okay, I have a 2.8 GHZ Intel Core i7 processor.  Is that 64 Bit?  Thanks.
> 
> Les
> On Dec 12, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Josh de Lioncourt  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> To check if your Mac is 64 bit:
>> 
>> Go to Apple menu->About this Mac. In the window that appears, it will tell 
>> you the type of processor that is in your Mac. If it is Core Solo or Core 
>> Duo, it is 32 bit. If it is Core2 Duo, or anything later than that, it is 64 
>> bit.
>> 
>> If you do have a 64 bit Mac, contact me off list and we will work with you 
>> to find the problem.
>> 
>> On Dec 12, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>>> Josh,
>>> I don't know if my machine is 64 bit. How do I find out?
>>> On Dec 12, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Stacey,
>>>> 
>>>> The game should run on Snow Leopard, though it does required a 64-bit 
>>>> machine. Do you know if your Mac is 64-bit?
>>>> 
>>>> If you continue to have problems, you can contact me off-list, and we can 
>>>> try to work through it. If it is a problem on our end, we will do our best 
>>>> to track it down and release an update that corrects it for you and anyone 
>>>> else who may be experiencing it.
>>>> 
>>>> We've worked very hard to make ChangeReaction the very best it can be, and 
>>>> if there's a problem, we want to know about it and hopefully find a 
>>>> solution.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 12, 2012, at 1:23 PM, Stacey Robinson  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Josh,
>>>>> I've tried redownloading the game and it still won't open.
>>>>> Will it run on SnowLeopard?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 12, 2012, at 12:01 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The audio is at least on par with all of our old games. Technology has 
>>>>>> come a long way int he last ten years, and it is not necessary for audio 
>>>>>> games to be huge anymore. You can hear a sample of the game audio here:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://dracoent.com/audio/trailers/CRTrailer.mp3
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is very possible to use compressed audio that decompresses on demand 
>>>>>> these days for desktop machines. iOS devices are another matter, as they 
>>>>>> aren't quite powerful enough for that yet.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 12, 2012, at 12:53 PM, "Daniel Miller"  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Josh,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm finding it hard to believe that that app is self-contained in a 5MB
>>>>>>> download. The audio must be incredibly, incredibly horrible if that's 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> case.
>>>>>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Josh de Lioncourt
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:47 AM
>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Changereaction: A new game from Draconess intertainment for
>>>>>>> blind in the Mac app store
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Stacey,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you continue to have problems, you may wish  to delete the app and
>>>>>>> re-download it from the App Store. Perhaps your download was corrupted.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Before doing that, however, we do recommend trying the solutions 
>>>>>>> outlined in
>>>>>>> my previous email.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The game does not download any extra components. It is entirely
>&

Re: Changereaction: A new game from Draconess intertainment for blind in the Mac app store

[Josh de Lioncourt]

Yes, that makes it 64 bit.

Email me at overl...@lioncourt.com, and please send the text of the error 
message you are getting. If you focus VoiceOver on the text of the error 
message, then press VO-Shift-C before doing anything else, it will copy it to 
the clipboard and you can paste it into the email with Command-V.

On Dec 12, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:

> Josh,
> My processor says core2 duo.
> That would make my machine 64 bit, correct?
> How do I view the properties of a message in sl so I can write you offlist?
> On Dec 12, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:
> 
>> 
>> To check if your Mac is 64 bit:
>> 
>> Go to Apple menu->About this Mac. In the window that appears, it will tell 
>> you the type of processor that is in your Mac. If it is Core Solo or Core 
>> Duo, it is 32 bit. If it is Core2 Duo, or anything later than that, it is 64 
>> bit.
>> 
>> If you do have a 64 bit Mac, contact me off list and we will work with you 
>> to find the problem.
>> 
>> On Dec 12, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>>> Josh,
>>> I don't know if my machine is 64 bit. How do I find out?
>>> On Dec 12, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Stacey,
>>>> 
>>>> The game should run on Snow Leopard, though it does required a 64-bit 
>>>> machine. Do you know if your Mac is 64-bit?
>>>> 
>>>> If you continue to have problems, you can contact me off-list, and we can 
>>>> try to work through it. If it is a problem on our end, we will do our best 
>>>> to track it down and release an update that corrects it for you and anyone 
>>>> else who may be experiencing it.
>>>> 
>>>> We've worked very hard to make ChangeReaction the very best it can be, and 
>>>> if there's a problem, we want to know about it and hopefully find a 
>>>> solution.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 12, 2012, at 1:23 PM, Stacey Robinson  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Josh,
>>>>> I've tried redownloading the game and it still won't open.
>>>>> Will it run on SnowLeopard?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 12, 2012, at 12:01 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The audio is at least on par with all of our old games. Technology has 
>>>>>> come a long way int he last ten years, and it is not necessary for audio 
>>>>>> games to be huge anymore. You can hear a sample of the game audio here:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://dracoent.com/audio/trailers/CRTrailer.mp3
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is very possible to use compressed audio that decompresses on demand 
>>>>>> these days for desktop machines. iOS devices are another matter, as they 
>>>>>> aren't quite powerful enough for that yet.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 12, 2012, at 12:53 PM, "Daniel Miller"  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Josh,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm finding it hard to believe that that app is self-contained in a 5MB
>>>>>>> download. The audio must be incredibly, incredibly horrible if that's 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> case.
>>>>>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Josh de Lioncourt
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:47 AM
>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Changereaction: A new game from Draconess intertainment for
>>>>>>> blind in the Mac app store
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Stacey,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you continue to have problems, you may wish  to delete the app and
>>>>>>> re-download it from the App Store. Perhaps your download was corrupted.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Before doing that, however, we do recommend trying the solutions 
>>>>>>> outlined in
>>>>>>> my previous email.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The game does not download any extra components. It is entirely
>

Re: Changereaction: A new game from Draconess intertainment for blind in the Mac app store

[Josh de Lioncourt]

To check if your Mac is 64 bit:

Go to Apple menu->About this Mac. In the window that appears, it will tell you 
the type of processor that is in your Mac. If it is Core Solo or Core Duo, it 
is 32 bit. If it is Core2 Duo, or anything later than that, it is 64 bit.

If you do have a 64 bit Mac, contact me off list and we will work with you to 
find the problem.

On Dec 12, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:

> Josh,
> I don't know if my machine is 64 bit. How do I find out?
> On Dec 12, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:
> 
>> Hi Stacey,
>> 
>> The game should run on Snow Leopard, though it does required a 64-bit 
>> machine. Do you know if your Mac is 64-bit?
>> 
>> If you continue to have problems, you can contact me off-list, and we can 
>> try to work through it. If it is a problem on our end, we will do our best 
>> to track it down and release an update that corrects it for you and anyone 
>> else who may be experiencing it.
>> 
>> We've worked very hard to make ChangeReaction the very best it can be, and 
>> if there's a problem, we want to know about it and hopefully find a solution.
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 12, 2012, at 1:23 PM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>>> Josh,
>>> I've tried redownloading the game and it still won't open.
>>> Will it run on SnowLeopard?
>>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2012, at 12:01 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The audio is at least on par with all of our old games. Technology has 
>>>> come a long way int he last ten years, and it is not necessary for audio 
>>>> games to be huge anymore. You can hear a sample of the game audio here:
>>>> 
>>>> http://dracoent.com/audio/trailers/CRTrailer.mp3
>>>> 
>>>> It is very possible to use compressed audio that decompresses on demand 
>>>> these days for desktop machines. iOS devices are another matter, as they 
>>>> aren't quite powerful enough for that yet.
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 12, 2012, at 12:53 PM, "Daniel Miller"  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Josh,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm finding it hard to believe that that app is self-contained in a 5MB
>>>>> download. The audio must be incredibly, incredibly horrible if that's the
>>>>> case.
>>>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Josh de Lioncourt
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:47 AM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Changereaction: A new game from Draconess intertainment for
>>>>> blind in the Mac app store
>>>>> 
>>>>> Stacey,
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you continue to have problems, you may wish  to delete the app and
>>>>> re-download it from the App Store. Perhaps your download was corrupted.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Before doing that, however, we do recommend trying the solutions outlined 
>>>>> in
>>>>> my previous email.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The game does not download any extra components. It is entirely
>>>>> self-contained.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 12, 2012, at 12:36 PM, Stacey Robinson 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>> I can't get it to open at all.
>>>>>> What os are you running.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 12, 2012, at 11:28 AM, Mark Baxter wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It took quite a while to come up speaking, and the first thing you'll
>>>>> hear is an alert asking you if your headsets are on and comfortable, so as
>>>>> not to blow out your eardrums.  After that, you might as well turn VO off,
>>>>> in fact it might help.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> . Mark BurningHawk Baxter
>>>>>>> . AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969 . MSN:  
>>>>>>> burninghawk1...@hotmail.com . My home page:
>>>>>>> . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>>>>>>> 
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Re: Changereaction: A new game from Draconess intertainment for blind in the Mac app store

[Josh de Lioncourt]

Hi Stacey,

The game should run on Snow Leopard, though it does required a 64-bit machine. 
Do you know if your Mac is 64-bit?

If you continue to have problems, you can contact me off-list, and we can try 
to work through it. If it is a problem on our end, we will do our best to track 
it down and release an update that corrects it for you and anyone else who may 
be experiencing it.

We've worked very hard to make ChangeReaction the very best it can be, and if 
there's a problem, we want to know about it and hopefully find a solution.


On Dec 12, 2012, at 1:23 PM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:

> Josh,
> I've tried redownloading the game and it still won't open.
> Will it run on SnowLeopard?
> 
> On Dec 12, 2012, at 12:01 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:
> 
>> 
>> The audio is at least on par with all of our old games. Technology has come 
>> a long way int he last ten years, and it is not necessary for audio games to 
>> be huge anymore. You can hear a sample of the game audio here:
>> 
>> http://dracoent.com/audio/trailers/CRTrailer.mp3
>> 
>> It is very possible to use compressed audio that decompresses on demand 
>> these days for desktop machines. iOS devices are another matter, as they 
>> aren't quite powerful enough for that yet.
>> 
>> On Dec 12, 2012, at 12:53 PM, "Daniel Miller"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Josh,
>>> 
>>> I'm finding it hard to believe that that app is self-contained in a 5MB
>>> download. The audio must be incredibly, incredibly horrible if that's the
>>> case.
>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Josh de Lioncourt
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:47 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Changereaction: A new game from Draconess intertainment for
>>> blind in the Mac app store
>>> 
>>> Stacey,
>>> 
>>> If you continue to have problems, you may wish  to delete the app and
>>> re-download it from the App Store. Perhaps your download was corrupted.
>>> 
>>> Before doing that, however, we do recommend trying the solutions outlined in
>>> my previous email.
>>> 
>>> The game does not download any extra components. It is entirely
>>> self-contained.
>>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2012, at 12:36 PM, Stacey Robinson 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Mark,
>>>> I can't get it to open at all.
>>>> What os are you running.
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 12, 2012, at 11:28 AM, Mark Baxter wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> It took quite a while to come up speaking, and the first thing you'll
>>> hear is an alert asking you if your headsets are on and comfortable, so as
>>> not to blow out your eardrums.  After that, you might as well turn VO off,
>>> in fact it might help.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> . Mark BurningHawk Baxter
>>>>> . AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969 . MSN:  
>>>>> burninghawk1...@hotmail.com . My home page:
>>>>> . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>>>>> 
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Re: Changereaction: A new game from Draconess intertainment for blind in the Mac app store

[Josh de Lioncourt]

The audio is at least on par with all of our old games. Technology has come a 
long way int he last ten years, and it is not necessary for audio games to be 
huge anymore. You can hear a sample of the game audio here:

http://dracoent.com/audio/trailers/CRTrailer.mp3

It is very possible to use compressed audio that decompresses on demand these 
days for desktop machines. iOS devices are another matter, as they aren't quite 
powerful enough for that yet.

On Dec 12, 2012, at 12:53 PM, "Daniel Miller"  wrote:

> Josh,
> 
> I'm finding it hard to believe that that app is self-contained in a 5MB
> download. The audio must be incredibly, incredibly horrible if that's the
> case.
> Just my 2 cents.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Josh de Lioncourt
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:47 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Changereaction: A new game from Draconess intertainment for
> blind in the Mac app store
> 
> Stacey,
> 
> If you continue to have problems, you may wish  to delete the app and
> re-download it from the App Store. Perhaps your download was corrupted.
> 
> Before doing that, however, we do recommend trying the solutions outlined in
> my previous email.
> 
> The game does not download any extra components. It is entirely
> self-contained.
> 
> On Dec 12, 2012, at 12:36 PM, Stacey Robinson 
> wrote:
> 
>> Mark,
>> I can't get it to open at all.
>> What os are you running.
>> 
>> On Dec 12, 2012, at 11:28 AM, Mark Baxter wrote:
>> 
>>> It took quite a while to come up speaking, and the first thing you'll
> hear is an alert asking you if your headsets are on and comfortable, so as
> not to blow out your eardrums.  After that, you might as well turn VO off,
> in fact it might help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> . Mark BurningHawk Baxter
>>> . AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969 . MSN:  
>>> burninghawk1...@hotmail.com . My home page:
>>> . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>>> 
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Re: Changereaction: A new game from Draconess intertainment for blind in the Mac app store

[Josh de Lioncourt]

Stacey,

If you continue to have problems, you may wish  to delete the app and 
re-download it from the App Store. Perhaps your download was corrupted.

Before doing that, however, we do recommend trying the solutions outlined in my 
previous email.

The game does not download any extra components. It is entirely self-contained.

On Dec 12, 2012, at 12:36 PM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:

> Mark,
> I can't get it to open at all.
> What os are you running.
> 
> On Dec 12, 2012, at 11:28 AM, Mark Baxter wrote:
> 
>> It took quite a while to come up speaking, and the first thing you'll hear 
>> is an alert asking you if your headsets are on and comfortable, so as not to 
>> blow out your eardrums.  After that, you might as well turn VO off, in fact 
>> it might help.
>> 
>> 
>> • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
>> • AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
>> • MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
>> • My home page:
>> • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>> 
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Re: Changereaction: A new game from Draconess intertainment for blind in the Mac app store

[Josh de Lioncourt]

The alert letting you know that this is an audio game, etc, only appears the 
first time you launch the game.

it is possible that VoiceOver did not correctly put focus on the initial dialog 
box. If this is the case, one of the following may fix the problem for you:

• Command-tab into the ChangeReaction app
• Use VO-F1 twice to bring up the list of apps, and choose the alert dialog 
window from the ChangeReaction app
• If the ChangeReaction app itself has focus, use VO-F2 twice to bring up the 
list of menus and choose the dialog box window, which is called "Open Your 
Ears".

Applications are tested very rigorously by Apple, and they will not accept 
non-working apps into the App Store.

The "Learn to Play" option from the main menu will teach you how to play the 
currently selected game. We recommend that if you are not already familiar with 
ChangeReaction from the Windows days, and it is probably a good idea even if 
you are.

On Dec 12, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Mark Baxter  wrote:

> It took quite a while to come up speaking, and the first thing you'll hear is 
> an alert asking you if your headsets are on and comfortable, so as not to 
> blow out your eardrums.  After that, you might as well turn VO off, in fact 
> it might help.
> 
> 
> • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
> • AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
> • MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
> • My home page:
> • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
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Re: setting up dropbox

[Josh de Lioncourt]

Hi Sarah,

We reported on this on Maccessibility a couple of weeks ago. There no longer 
appears to be any way of setting up DropBox on the Mac, as they've made the 
application entirely inaccessible.

I'm still trying to find a way to get back into my DropBox via the Mac.

On Feb 21, 2011, at 1:57 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Hello to all how do I set up dropbox/ I choose the link but I get system UI 
> server has no windows and i can't enter in any log in info. Please help?
> 
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Re: [Bulk] Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Twitterific for Mac 4.0 Is Released Sans VoiceOver Accessibility

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On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:

> just post t he text if you want to post stuff here   these stes are 
> rediculous anywayif you can't copy and paste the text into the E mail why 
> bother  these sites take forever and are almost universally porly written

1. These messages are auto generated by the site. It provides an excerpt, the 
length of which I cannot control. It isn't a human copying and pasting the 
message into an email.

2. As the main author of the written content for the site, I'm very sorry to 
hear you feel our content is so poorly written. I take a great deal of time and 
put a great deal of effort into the site, and am transitioning to devoting more 
resources to providing news and content. Tutorials, more podcasts, and more 
written features are planned. I hope you will find some of it useful. I also 
find it a little disheartening that you feel it appropriate to attack someone's 
work and don't even take the time to proof read/correct an email you're sending 
out to hundreds of others, which serves no purpose but to put down someone else.

3. We've gone over and over the reasons for the moderation choices we make on 
these lists. We can't please everyone. We really do try to provide a good forum 
and a good web site that is useful for as many people as possible.

Myself, the mods of these lists, and those of us who work on the web site are 
not these terrible evil ogres some of you seem to believe we are. We all 
volunteer our time for free to provide these things. We try to make them 
valuable.

Josh

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Re: scanning and the mac

[Josh de Lioncourt]

I agree with Dane. I recently started using Abby FineReader, and have found it 
to be an excellent solution on the Mac. It's not tailored to the visually 
impaired specifically, but it does work quite well. The US retail price of Abby 
FineReader is $99, and there is a trial available from their web site.

HTH.




On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:17 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

> Would you be prepared to consider an off the shelf scanning system for your 
> Mac? Meaning something like Abey Fine Reader?
> 
> No, its not self voicing but you can get around it with Voiceover so some 
> knowledge of how Voiceover works will be a must before you use it but that 
> will come anyway if you plan to use Voiceover with your Mac .
> 
> Running a dual boot system or a virtual machine just to run Kurzweil seems to 
> be going to one hell of a lot of trouble to me , I know where you're 
> coming from with Kurzweil though as I've used it here on my Windows PC and no 
> one can deny its a great package - even though its massively overpriced in my 
> humble opinion - but as I said before, you a little knowledge of Voicoever 
> will go a long way and save you a lot of time.
> 
> 
> 
> On 17/02/2011 3:11 AM, Caitlyn and Nickels wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> We have been kicking around the idea of getting a couple of new macs for a
>> couple of weeks now since bothour pc's are not working that great anymore.
>> The main thing that is holding us back is our heavy reliance on Kurzweil.  I
>> am a grad student and we also use k1000 for scanning our mail daily.  I know
>> we could either do a duel boot system or run a virtual machine and then can
>> use k1000 this way on the mac, but I wanted to ask knowledgable folks first
>> about this before we jumped in.
>> 
>> We heard about another kurzweil product that is for the mac, but it's not
>> self voicing, and I don't know if vo works with it.   Does anybody have any
>> mac specific solutions that work well for scanning text books?  For scanning
>> the types we all get in the post?  I use the bookmark features in k1000
>> quite a lot, plus the dictionary a lot and have preferred it a lot for the
>> proof reading I do for book share over ms word.
>> 
>> Oh, that's actually another question, we were told that pages actually isn't
>> that great or useable...
>> 
>> Lots of this info is coming from people who don't use vo regularly.
>> 
>> For us, though, this scanner stuff is the only thing standing in the way.
>> We do have a old power book, but it's the old non intel mac, so we're stuck
>> running leopard on it, can't do a virtual machine or anything on it, it
>> doesn't support the magic track pad, and we can't upgrade to snow leopard or
>> anything beyond what we already have on it(we already called apple about
>> it).
>> 
>> Any help or anything would be appreciated!
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Caitlyn
>> 
>> 
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Re: general questions about VO on latest MacOS

[Josh de Lioncourt]

Answers inline.

On Feb 13, 2011, at 7:52 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
> 
> 1. What is with this "interact" command, or whatever it is called?
> What is it and when is it used?
> 
Interacting allows you to manipulate a particular control, without being forced 
to view all of its content at once. For instance, have you ever looked at a 
listview in Windows Explorer with the Jaws cursor? It looks like a confusing 
mess of information, depending on how you have view settings. VoiceOver might 
let you know that this part of the window is made up of a table or list. You 
wouldn't see all the info in that list until you interacted with it. This makes 
use of applications much clearer, and can be a huge time saver. It is one of 
the biggest differences between VoiceOver and Windows screen readers, and for 
some it is a little tough to get used to. Once you do, I believe most prefer it 
to the Windows screen reader approach. I certainly do.

> 2. While the rotor, I gather, is available, can you still use commands
> to quickly navigate webpages? With jaws, for example, f moves by form
> fields, x by checkbox, n by non-linked text, t by table, and so on,
> instead of having to take the time to move through the rotor.

Yes. VoiceOver has all sorts of commands like this. Using those commands in 
conjunction with the rotor makes browsing a pleasure on the Mac.
> 
> 3. Can vo be scripted? For example, I have jaws set to play a musical
> note based on the indentation level for a certain text editor so I can
> know where I am in Python code. NVDA can do this as well, though the
> functionality has to be written as a plugin in Python. Is anything
> like this available in vo?

Yes. VoiceOver can be scripted using AppleScript, Automator work flows, or 
really anything that can be compiled into a Mac application, which includes a 
wide range of programming languages if one chooses to go that route.
> 
> 4. Can other voices be used with vo? Alex sounds okay, but are there
> other options at this point?
> 
The Mac ships with a ton of voices. I like Alex and Victoria best, myself. 
There are also quite a few third-party voices available.

> 5. In some podcasts I have heard, it sounds like there is no menu or
> dialog wrapping. That is, if there are ten options in a menu and you
> are at the bottom, you have to up arrow nine times instead of down
> arrowing once. Is this true?

If you navigate menus with just the arrow keys, menus wrap as they do in 
Windows. Only if you add the VO keys do that not wrap, and personally I don't 
know why anyone would navigate a menu with the VO keys pressed. In dialogs and 
other windows, you can choose to have VoiceOver wrap if you wish.
> 
> 6. It is quite rare that jaws will freeze or require a restart. How
> often do you experience problems with vo that cause a loss of speech?
> Does command-f5 fix the problem, or do you have to restart the whole
> machine?

In six years as a VoiceOver user, I could probably count the number of times I 
lost VoiceOver and needed to restart the whole machine on one hand. VoiceOver, 
and the Mac in general, is far more stable than WIndows in my personal 
experience, and more stable than Jaws in particular. In fact, Jaws's 
instability led me to abandon it around 2004 or so in favor of Window-Eyes, 
which was more stable for me. VoiceOver is incredibly stable, and when there 
are problems, a quick cycling of VoiceOver with Command-F5 almost always fixes 
the problem.

> 7. Are shortcut keys available? For example, in a file menu, you might
> just press "o" to open instead of arrowing to and activating that
> option.
> 
Mac menus allow you to start typing the command name instead of pressing 
accelerator keys. THis means you don't have to memorize the accelerator keys 
for every menu in every application. So, if you wanted "Open" in the FIle menu, 
usually just pressing O takes you right there, but if there are multiple 
options that start with the letter "O" you can continue typing "Open". This 
works the same way as finding a file by typing part of its name in a ListView 
in Windows Explorer.

> 8. How well does Windows work on a system like bootcamp? There is not
> much from windows I would miss, but my audio games are definitely on
> the short list. Many of them rely on the .net framework, ActiveX, and
> other core components. Does any of that work on the mac? In short, can
> audio games for Windows run on the mac with Windows installed?
> 
Yes. You can install WIndows on a Mac via BootCamp or via something like VMWare 
Fusion. Fusion allows Mac OS X and Windows to run simultaneously.

> 9. Is there a virtual machine option for the mac so you can "boot"
> windows without restarting?
> 
Yes. THe afore mentioned VMware Fusion.

> 10. How is vo with punctuation? Can you customize what symbols are
> spoken, is it level-based, or is it all or none?
> 
THe usual settings of All, Some, Most, None, etc are available. Using the 
dictionary, you could further customize this to 

google translate

[Josh Kennedy]

Hi

Can we contact google about this. I managed to use the site with nvda and 
firefox in windows but it was quite difficult. We have to contact google about 
this issue. this is bad web design. 


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google translate

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Hi

for some reason the language combo boxes on the www.translate.google.com 
website are not showing up as pop up buttons so I cannot change their values. I 
am running the latest mac OS10.6 and latest updates. 
Is this something I just need windows for? 

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recording skype calls

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Hi

is there any free software for mac that will let me record both sides of a 
skype call? 
My wife uses call burner for windows but if there is a mac equivalent let me 
know. preferably one that's free.

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my podcast

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Hello everybody,

I now have a podcast. To follow my podcast please go to 
www.jkenn337.podbean.com . My files are in mp3 and recorded at 64kbps 44khz 
mono recorded on the aph braille plus notetaker. I am writing this because I 
plan on doing a whole series about vinux in the ner future. I may even get a 
paid account for more bandwidth but we'll see how my free account goes first. 
again my podcasts are at www.jkenn337.podbean.com . 


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future of screen readers

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Hi
Ubuntu is just that, Ubuntu with the Gnome desktop. to turn it into vinux they 
run a whole bunch of automated scripts and do a little tweeking then use 
remastersys to make an iso file. 
Orca is the main screen reader for both ubuntu and vinux3.0. and orca, like the 
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future of screen readers

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Hi
Is ubuntu/vinux trying to copy mac I wonder? Most programs for vinux except for 
qt4 and some webkit programs are currently inaccessible with vinux 3.0 but 
other than that most things just work. Does mac use something similar to At-Spy 
atspi to make its OS accessible I wonder? Reason I'm asking is because when 
both mac and vinux3.0 load websites they both say html content. They also say 
some other things that makes me think vinux has incorporated at least some form 
of apple's universal accessibility into vinux 3.0 itself.

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future of screen readers

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Hi
Mac seems a lot like vinux in some ways. With vinux you also not only have the 
screen reader, but you have a fully accessible operating system. Are there 
bugs, sure but if you're willing to take the time to learn mac and vinux it is 
well worth it in my opinion. I think getting a mac, or a pc running vinux just 
blows windows out of the water in terms of security and stability and stuff.

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future of screen readers

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Hi guys
I personally am a big fan of the mac. I also really like vinux3.0 based on 
Ubuntu. Orca is coming along nicely and its nice to use ubuntu to legally and 
freely turn my pc into a mac which talks out of the box and for $5 I get voxin 
to use with it. I am disappointed that gwmicro did not even mention the fact 
linux distributions such as vinux and knoppix-adriane and grml exist. One of 
the reasons I like vinux is because it pretty much turns any pc into a macLike 
computer with the same or better security and stability just as the mac has on 
it. With vinux I just plug in my braille display and it works, usb and passport 
drives show up as icons on the desktop. There's no safely remove hardware. it 
has a calculator, dictionary, web browser, at least two email programs, a ful 
office suite including powerpoint, and that's just scratching the surface. If 
you install emacs you get the gnome desktop plus the emacs audio desktop with 
voxin. You can use both console and graphical modes. Don't want to remember 
tons of commands? then don't worry about it, you can just copy and paste 
commands into the terminal. Vinux only needs 384 mb to 512mb of ram to run. if 
you plan on using vmware player and windows7 then get at least 3gb of ram. 
win-xp and win98 need much much less ram. I love my mac and I love vinux3.0 
equally! GwMicro doesn't seem to want to really acknowledge apple, or NVDA, or 
serotek, or vinux or grml or knoppix-adriane at all. 

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windows screen readers

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Hi

guys don't forget about NVDA and system access by serotek. www.nvda-project.org 
and www.satogo.com . www.serotek.com . System access works very good with 
office2007 and other software. NVDA is yet another good option. 

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the unix shell and mac terminal

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Hi
Over the past few weeks I have been running vinux 3.0 lucid in a virtual 
machine and have been playing with it. And then recently I went into the 
terminal on my mac in snow leopard and typed some commands and surprisingly I 
find that most of the commands I can perform in vinux I can also do with the 
terminal or the mac's unix shell. It's really cool. The only difference I can 
see in the mac is that it uses the darwin kernel while vinux uses the linux 
kernel. Oh and guys if you go into a terminal in your mac and type:
man ls
you can even read the unix man pages there. The only thing that doesn't work is 
apt-get command. I'm not sure if dpkg works or not, I haven't tried it. I'll 
try right now. Well guys dpkg also does not work. The mac's shell reminds me 
very much of vinux 3.0 lucid though. 
If you type 
uname -a 
it will tell you the kernel version among other things. 
If you type:
man ls
it will bring up the man page for the ls list directory command. to quit the 
man pages just press the letter q,. To close terminal hit command q. You can 
even hit tab and it will autocomplete commands for you. I imagine the unix 
shell is very powerful, even on the mac. And I'm glad mac uses the bash shell. 
Vinux uses it too. I doubt voxin would work on the mac since voxin I think is 
compiled for the linux kernel and not the darwin version10 kernel. 

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download linked file in mail

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Hi
Someone sent me a file through dropbox. I hit control option  shift m and hit 
enter on download linked file. I can see in my downloads folder that its 
downloading but is there a way I can get to a download progress window in mail? 
or does it just download linked files in the background? I'll go into my 
downloads folder and check the table to see if the file size is increasing but 
I wish I could sit the vo cursor on a progress bar of some kind to watch the 
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converting google videos and youtube to mp3

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Hi
Are there any programs for the mac that will let me convert youtube videos and 
videos from google video into standard audio mp3? 

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macbook pro with bellkin router

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Hi
I am at a friend's house and he has a bellkin router. My macbook pro refuses to 
connect to the bellkin router. It is connected to someone else's linksys router 
which is an open network. Can anyone tell me what settings I have to change in 
the router to make my macbook pro like it and connect? its set to wpa2 personal 
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flash

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Hi
If you want to use flash just install windows xp into vmware fusion and use xp 
on your mac with NVDA or system access. They work great with flash controls.

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openoffice is now a braille translator

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Hi
Did you guys know that there is a free extension for openoffice that will 
translate documents into grade2 braille and back? it will also emboss documents 
in openoffice so far it supports 8 embossers, more coming soon. It also lets 
you type grade2 braille into openoffice using the sdf jkl keys pressed together 
to act as the braille dots. It also adds a braille menu to the menu ar of open 
office. 

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my mistake with arrow keys

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hey guys
well it worked. all is back to normal. I turned quick nav off and its working 
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working with text question

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Hi
also in text edit I interact with the edit area type some text and left and 
right arrow are no longer moving me by character. also the control f8 status 
menu if I hit control f8 then left arrow it should go to the clock, but instead 
it just beeps and I have to right arrow a bunch of times to get to the clock. 
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status menus messed up

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Hi
Somehow I messed up voiceover. when I'm in mail and press arrow keys to edit my 
message up and down arrow move me by character and left and right move me up 
and down lines. Also in the status menu control f8 menus I cannot hit left 
arrow over to clock. it just beeps at me. I wonder what I did to cause this? 
  
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the bootamp partition

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Hi
since windows7 is installed on the bootcamp partition does that mean I have to 
degragment that partition every once in a while?

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modifying the bootcamp partition?

[Josh Kennedy]

Hi
I'm having a problem with my windows bootcamp partition and would like to 
delete a folder on that partition from the mac side. But it opens in the image 
browser and I cannot delete the folder I want to delete with command shift 
backspace or command shift delete. How can I modify files on the bootcamp 
partition and delete them? A windows screen reader, system access is freezing 
up for some reason just after I log into windows so I want to delete and 
reinstall it.

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pc gaming on the mac

[Josh Kennedy]

Hi
Ok with running windows7 in bootcamp I have been trying all day long and 
windows7 professional 64bit in bootcamp refuses to run jim kitchen's games. I 
wonder if I should download that windows xp mode from microsoft and try that? I 
even tried compatibility mode still, isn't working. System access and screen 
readers are working fine it seems its just certain applications are refusing to 
run and giving me trouble. For example revo uninstaller is another program 
that's not running at all. I'm gunna ask voc rehab to buy me vmware fusion I 
think. if they don't I'll just go ahead and buy it at the end of the month. 

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a bootcamp drive question

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Hi
Since windows7 is on the bootcamp partition does that mean I will have to 
defragment the bootcamp partition and use antivirus and antispyware and stuff 
like that on the windows side of things? 


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converting audible books

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Hi

Goldwave will still convert them if you first deactivate your audible manager 
then uninstall it, then install windows media player filter and k-lite mega 
codec pack. open audible book in gold wave, enter audible user name , password, 
goldwave opens book, then save as mp3. will not convert .aax new audible 
extreme format books. to do that you'll have to burn to physical cd or iso file 
then either rip cd to mp3 or mount iso file as another drive and rip to mp3, 
then unmount and delete iso or isos.

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twitter client for mac

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Hi
what is a good accessible twitter client for mac? 


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bootcamp and drivers

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Hi
well I went and rolled back the nvdidia drivers with no effect. windows7 in 
bootcamp still freezes. it freezes randomly. If this keeps up I may just delete 
the whole darn partition, buy fusion and put windows7 into fusion. maybe it'll 
work good then. 


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macbook randomly freezes windows7 64bit bootcamp

[Josh Kennedy]

Hi

my macbook pro randomly freezes with windows7 64bit installed with bootcamp all 
updated drivers. I read its an nvidia driver issue. I read I have to dowload 
download the following file. 

http://www.brsbox.com/filebox/down/fc/0917205bb051880869ad1c9542ce57a1

I cannot figure out where to go to download the file to make it download. Can 
someone please help. I was told the random freezing of windows7 64bit pro on 
the new 2010 macbook pros is due to an nvidia driver issue and that the file I 
should be able to get from this site includes a modified .inf file that will 
fix the issue for me once installed. 

please help if you can.

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burning audible books to cd

[Josh Kennedy]

Hi

ok, so I don't have to waste cds, I got a question. is there a way on the mac 
to instead of burning a physical cd. use a program that emulates a cd drive and 
when you burn with itunes, it burns to a .iso file? then you munt the .iso file 
and rip it thus you do not have to burn a physical disk?


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converting audible books

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Hi

ok guess I'll use windows7 then to convert them using goldwave and audible 
media player filter along with codecs from k-lite mega codec pack. If it won't 
work in win7 then I'll run win-xp in vmware fusion and convert them that way so 
I can play them on my national library service free talking book digital 
player. 

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converting audible .aa and .aax books

[Josh Kennedy]

Hi

the nls player will not play audible books. it only will play:
mp3
daisy
rfb&d
.wav
.3gp
that is all. so to play audible books I have to convert them to standard mp3 
first. on windows I use goldwave and audible media player filter. but if 
there's an easier way to do it with the mac side of my macbook pro I'd love to 
learn about it. 

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sound in windows7 installed with bootcamp

[Josh Kennedy]

Hi

I got sound working. here's how I did it. I went into the start menu in 
windows, went into all programs and went to the apple updater and updated 
bootcamp to 3.1 or the latest version of bootcamp for windows. Then restarted, 
now I got sound and microphone use in windows7. 


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converting audible books .aa files

[Josh Kennedy]

Hi

Is there a way to convert audible books .aa and audible extreme format books 
.aax files into regular mp3s on the mac? I want to convert them to mp3s so I 
can play them on my national library service digital book player. Also is there 
an audible download manager for the mac? Or would I have to go through itunes? 

I guess if worse comes to worse I'll run windows7 in bootcamp and use goldwave 
to convert the books to p3. 
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read receipts in apple mail?

[Josh Kennedy]

Hi

when composing a message in mail, how do I send a read receipt along with the 
message so I know the person opened and read my mail? 


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playing a radio station with the mac

[Josh Kennedy]

Hi

If you guys go to www.wvly.com and if you go to the valley front button link, 
then go to the first table, interact with it, go to column two I think it is, 
interact with it, hit enter on the unlabeled button or some weird button link, 
then on the following page there's another table you go there and hit the 
launch link to listen, why is it that my web browser, webkit is only playing 
the comercial and it is not streaming the radio station? 

Josh

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help with mac windows7 and bootcamp

[Josh Kennedy]

Hi

I am using the latest nvda snapshot with windows7 64bit. it is running on a 
macbook pro installed using bootcamp. First question is, for some reason to get 
standard use of the function keys I gotta hold down the fn key while pressing 
the f keys. Second, I boot up into windows, hit caps lock n, it says nvda menu, 
but when I arrow down to go into the menus the menus disappear and I'm put back 
on the desktop. Do I have to wait awhile before I can use nvda? also why isn't 
nvda showing up in the system tray? This is my first time with windows7. Oh and 
also for some reason we did install bootcamp on the windows side because I 
needed or it has drivers windows needs, but the only way I can get full use of 
my sound is by using USB headphones. When I use the built in laptop speakers I 
can barely hear nvda and other sounds. Thanks for any help you can provide on 
this. you can email me off list at jkenn...@gmail.com 


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transferring stuff between pc and mac

[Josh]

Hi,

I heard of something called a network crossover cable. I wonder if it would be 
faster to buy one of those 
and transfer it that way? Because by doing it the other way the 100 gigs of 
stuff will be transferring over 
wifi and I'm not sure if it'll interfeer with other people's internet 
connections or not. 

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Fwd: espeak for mac

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> On 09 Jul, Josh Kennedy  wrote:
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>> I downloaded espeak for the mac since I now have a macbook pro to use
>> espeak with voiceover. I was disappointed to find in the read-me it
>> makes no mention of using espeak with voiceover at all. I was hoping
>> espeak would be in a .pkg installer file and I could install it, pick
>> my languages I wanted installed and then use it with voiceover. 
> 
> I've never used a Mac, and I don't have one available for development
> or testing.  I don't know anything about "pkg" or "voiceover".
> 
> Someone else will need to convert eSpeak to work with Mac software.
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