Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

['Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries]

Mike I agree fully,   I still like window’s more than the mac at this time but 
getting there now having a few problems with the latest incarnation of 
thunderbird!  so use the mac for mail more and more anyway will leave it at 
that as don’t really want to get into the window’s is better than the mac and 
vice versa have a good weekend all.
> On 16 Oct 2015, at 18:05, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> I do think Apple is more committed to accessibility than Microsoft, but in 
> the last couple years, Apple's quality control has really suffered, and 
> that's the real issue, they release products without fully testing them. 
> Regarding Windows screen readers, there really is no reason to pay for 
> expensive screen readers anymore. NVDA works very well, and if you have a 
> recent version of Microsoft Office, you can use Window Eyes for free. To pay 
> for Jaws now is simply a waste of money.
> Original message:
>> Jaws is not the only game in town for windows. There is nvda, which is quite 
>> respectable these days. The argument that you get a freebie with a Mac and 
>> Windows screen readers are expensive just doesn't cut it anymore, especially 
>> with Apple producing but here releases of OS X when they are supposed to be 
>> "rock solid". I bought my first mac went snow leopard was the current 
>> version of OS X. It was pretty solid. Since then, there certainly have been 
>> improvements in  voiceover features. I still believe it is clear that Apple 
>> has made for more of a commitment to accessibility then has Microsoft. After 
>> all, the new edge browser is totally inaccessible to all but the 
>> experimental support with the latest build of NVDA. However, Apple is quite 
>> open about this commitment, therefore, they have set themselves a higher 
>> standard. And they are not meeting it with this new release. When they 
>> release a product with serious voiceover issues, they are sending a message 
>> that their commitment to accessibility is not quite up to the standard of 
>> their commitment to those who do not need accessibility features. Is that 
>> really what they want to do?
>> Mary
> 
> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Oct 16, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
>>> The only problem is that Jaws costs a lot of money and Voice Over comes 
>>> with the Mac and has no ILM life. I have thought about getting a small 
>>> windows lap top but haven't done anything about it as yet. I do wish there 
>>> was better Braille sufport on the Mac.
> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
 On 16 Oct 2015, at 4:46 p.m., Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
 They should really hire a blind software engineer. I think that's about 
 the only way we'll get any progress.
> 
 Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 16, 2015, at 2:20 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Hey guy,
> 
> Thanks so much for pointing out this is why it is great to wait to the 
> next version of an operating system comes out. Wow, what a original 
> novice concept that has never ever been pointed out on this list.
> 
> Ok, now that that is out of the way. I want to thank everyone who has 
> posted about their issues with safari in El Capitan the IOS 8 for VO 
> users on the mac. Holy cow, Apple what a crap operating system. 
> Thankfully I will be rolling back this weekend. Just need to do some more 
> backups. Seriously, I love Apple, but you got to call them out when they 
> shit the bed and El Capitan is just that. Apple claimed IOS 9 and El 
> Capitan were going to be focused on Quality Control instead of fancy new 
> things. Well, how can Apple expect any VO user that they seriously test 
> VO when safari on a lot of websites is absolutely unusable. It is great 
> that VO seems to be much snappier but with it constantly crashing and 
> turning on and off it is unusable, and I am finding the same issue in 
> chrome on the same websites so it is definitely VO.
> 
> Another issue which I have not seen posted is how VO just does not read 
> things. For example go through your contact list in contacts and you will 
> constantly have to go back up to a previous contact and then back down 
> again to get VO to read it. These two issues alone are so severe that 
> Apple should fire anyone doing Quality Control for VO or they just do not 
> care about the quality of it. Very disappointed in Apple again.
>> On Oct 15, 2015, at 10:30 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
>> This is why it’s always best to wait until at least the first, and 
>> sometimes the second major update before installing a new version of the 
>> operating system, let the major bugs get worked out first.
>>> On Oct 15, 2015, at 5:42 PM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
>>> This is why I have Rolled back  to Yosemite.
> 
>>> These are some of the worst bugs I've seen since I started using the 
>>> Mac back in 2010.
> 
>>> Won't be updating until a  update comes out to address these

Re: Touch ID and purchasing things in the Apple online stores

['Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries]

Well your not alone I get the same thing every time I buy an app from the app 
store.
> On 28 Sep 2015, at 17:08, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I am confused about the use of touch ID in places like the iBooks store, app 
> store or iTunes store. I thought I was set up for that. But I just purchased 
> an iBook. I hit the buy button and was prompted to sign in with my password. 
> I put my finger on the home  button for touch ID, nothing happened. So I 
> signed  in the usual way and the book was purchased. Now I don't have a 
> problem signing in. I have been doing it for a long time. But I am confused 
> as to how this touch ID thing is supposed to work. There must be some setting 
> I am missing. Or I just don't understand its operation.
> Mary
> 
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Re: How do I switch the screen curtain on with the keyboard on the I Mac?

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Hello,   thanks will let you know if it worked but I would think it will thanks 
again.
> On 3 Sep 2015, at 21:08, Terje Strømberg  wrote:
> 
> Shift - vo + f11
> 
> 3. sep. 2015 kl. 21:31 skrev 'Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hello all,   OK I am sure there is a command to do this but can’t remember 
> what it was need to switch the screen curtain on on a 27 inch I Mac using the 
> keyboard,   can someone refresh my memory. thanks in advance.
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How do I switch the screen curtain on with the keyboard on the I Mac?

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Hello all,   OK I am sure there is a command to do this but can’t remember what 
it was need to switch the screen curtain on on a 27 inch I Mac using the 
keyboard,   can someone refresh my memory. thanks in advance.

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Re: Accessible remote login

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Hi,   I don’t know how it will be done but if you go to the blind bargains site 
I am sure you will find the podcast I suspect that they do a similar sort of 
thing to the nada remote.  this does not send any audio down the pipe if you 
use speak you get speak or what ever other speech you use that’s what you get,  
 I love nada remote this has enabled me to work on other folks computers and 
not have to even leave the house. the only thing I would love to see happen one 
day is some sort of file transferee I am sorry think I may have miss spelled 
that last word,   anyway I am sure you will know what I mean,   you can push 
text to and from the clipboard from 1 machine to the next but if I have a file 
I want to install on the other box I have to tell the other person to download 
it first or set up a drop box folder with them but maybe one day this might 
come maybe not as it might use a bit of band width anyway that is about it I 
hope this does happen for voice over as for the blind computer assister nada 
remote has been a fantastic tool in the tool box.
> On 30 Aug 2015, at 20:54, Brent Harding  wrote:
> 
> I could imagine it being harder to set up because they will likely have to 
> make a speech driver that sends the synthesizer commands down the line to the 
> client, since sending audio will delay to the point of being painful, most 
> likely. Maybe they will have success getting Apple to give them something 
> more direct if it doesn't already exist to reproduce VO on the client side.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "'Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 2:33 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible remote login
> 
> 
> there is a fund raising program like the nada remote thingy for voice over 
> starting soon might even have started,   I heard this on the blind bargains 
> pod cast,  I believe the app will be called voice over remote it will work on 
> mac to mac iOS and even window’s so you will be able to control someones mac 
> from iOS or window’s don’t know any more than this.
>> On 30 Aug 2015, at 05:53, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I tried using Apple's screen sharing and it does not send audio between my 
>> two Macs. So while connected to the remote machine I was able to turn on 
>> voiceover and do all the usual things but that audio never made it back 
>> through. Wish you could send your audio from a Mac to another Apple device 
>> over a network. Then I could somehow set the remote machine to send its 
>> audio back to my mac and control it with screen sharing. I think last time 
>> this came up somebody suggested having Skype on the remote machine set to 
>> auto-answer but that's not nearly as straightforward.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 8/28/15 11:38 PM, Brent Harding wrote:
>>> Does Apple Remote Desktop do it? I've heard of VPS servers with OSX 
>>> existing, but I have a suspicion that we couldn't use them.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Grant" 
>>> To: "MacVisionaries List" 
>>> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 7:32 PM
>>> Subject: Accessible remote login
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> Have any VoiceOver users figured out if there is a way to remotely login 
>>>> to another Mac and use the GUI, in an accessible way?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Grant
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Re: Accessible remote login

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there is a fund raising program like the nada remote thingy for voice over 
starting soon might even have started,   I heard this on the blind bargains pod 
cast,  I believe the app will be called voice over remote it will work on mac 
to mac iOS and even window’s so you will be able to control someones mac from 
iOS or window’s don’t know any more than this.
> On 30 Aug 2015, at 05:53, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I tried using Apple's screen sharing and it does not send audio between my 
> two Macs. So while connected to the remote machine I was able to turn on 
> voiceover and do all the usual things but that audio never made it back 
> through. Wish you could send your audio from a Mac to another Apple device 
> over a network. Then I could somehow set the remote machine to send its audio 
> back to my mac and control it with screen sharing. I think last time this 
> came up somebody suggested having Skype on the remote machine set to 
> auto-answer but that's not nearly as straightforward.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 8/28/15 11:38 PM, Brent Harding wrote:
>> Does Apple Remote Desktop do it? I've heard of VPS servers with OSX 
>> existing, but I have a suspicion that we couldn't use them.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Grant" 
>> To: "MacVisionaries List" 
>> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 7:32 PM
>> Subject: Accessible remote login
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Have any VoiceOver users figured out if there is a way to remotely login to 
>>> another Mac and use the GUI, in an accessible way?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Grant
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all in 1 pc or I mac that is the question.

['Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,   I use mac and window's10 mostly window's but like the mac for 
some things.  now the question is I want an all in 1 computer should I 
just go and get the slightly cheaper option and get a window's pc or get 
an I Mac?   if so either one who uses either or both and what do you 
like and not like thanks asked on the access UK list but got nothing 
back. hope to hear from folks I know this is a mac list but hope you can 
all be objective mods I hope this question is OK thanking you all in 
advance.


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Re: the anti cleaning article

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Hi,   agreed just get rid of the person that is causing the problem that is 
what I would have done if it was on my list.
> On 26 Aug 2015, at 16:57, Jim Gatteys  wrote:
> 
> Why should everybody have to create a rule to filter out one objectionable 
> person when a moderator could handle that quickly and efficiently.
> 
>> On Aug 26, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Scott Granados  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Just add the objectionable person to a rule and move it automatically to the 
>> trash.
>> 
>> Simple, problem solved and no moderation.
>> 
>>> On Aug 26, 2015, at 11:01 AM, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
>>> 
>>> ET is right, I am afraid to say this.
>>> 
>>> I cannot count the number of times this person has fired out, insulted, 
>>> then asked pardon, justifying some personal issues which do not belong to 
>>> any mailing list, then repeat the process almost within the hour. If he is 
>>> so defensive and threatening towards so many people, this is because these 
>>> responders also feel offended by his words. There is a democratic process 
>>> going on, a natural finger pointing of someone who just abuses the fact 
>>> that there are no moderators in this list. Some of us try to resolve this 
>>> one way or the other but nothing will be done if no one takes action, gas 
>>> bagging and cackering instead in the drainpipe of opinionated expression. 
>>> The latter is useless. Action can solve everything.
>>> 
>>> Take care 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 27/08/2015, at 12:43 AM, E.T.  wrote:
 
 There are as many opinions here as there are members of this group. This 
 issue is generating a lot of traffic that is not helpful to the grpup. We 
 have one person who cannot control himself. Banning him will break the 
 fever and let the group move on.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 Many believe that we have been visited
 in the past. What if it were true?
 
 On 8/26/2015 7:31 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
> A very simple solution is for everyone to be aware that the list is 
> moderated, and throw in a public warning to whoever is continuously 
> abusing others verbally, not necessarily ban the person. The point is to 
> make the offensive person reflect on themselves. Banning them would 
> result in upsets and possible worse attitudes in other lists.
> 
> 
>> On 26/08/2015, at 10:39 PM, Scott Granados  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes until you’ve eventually removed everyone from deviating from your 
>> acceptable use over time.
>> 
>> Banning someone from any mailing list is just weak sauce.  The only 
>> exception to that at least for me is spammers.  There have been serious 
>> lack of moderation and spam problems on other lists like the eyesore 
>> list from Google.  Automated programs dumping recruiting adds and so 
>> forth is just disruptive.  Pending that though I couldn’t see banning 
>> someone.
>> 
>>> On Aug 25, 2015, at 3:06 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It only takes one person to throw a list like this into utter chaos. 
>>> Removing that person permanently would return the list to a relatively 
>>> peaceful and more focused environment.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 8/25/2015 11:49 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
 Yes indeed, this list has gone from, at various stages of its life, 
 totally noisy and idiotic, to totally over-regulated, veering back 
 toward the noisy end.  I too am a great fan of the love-it-or-leave-it 
 style of discussion, but there’s something to be said for having a 
 person—possibly just one person—with a hand near to the levers that 
 restore calm and order in times of imminent crisis.  This goes as well 
 for practically any networked service, not just email lists.
 
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Re: My I O S 1 Day Challenge, Part 1

['Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries]

same here,   but we need to try and be nice to each other but thanks for 
the laugh.


On 25/08/2015 22:27, Daniel Miller wrote:

I agree, this type of stuff would be more suited to a website or blog.
I’ve never laughed so hard in my life lololololol at the response to this :)

On Aug 25, 2015, at 3:56 PM, Yuma Decaux mailto:jamy...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Man, there’s something called a blog for this type of stuff. My next
challenge when I get so bored I got nothing else to do, I’ll try to
make siri on my watch talk to siri on my ipad, and record the
conversation with the dictation feature on my mac. I’ll write an
applescript specifically for this challenge, and try to stream through
http live streaming on youtube, vimeo, merecat, periscope and
soundcloud. Oh boy, how much fun this is going to be. Watch out for my
own siri challenge folks, I promise you a spectacular time and lots of
laughs. And if you want a transcript of the conversation between my
watch and my ipad, you will have to register through a challenging web
page I will script. The person who can access the transcript receives
a free copy of my next blog, the cooking pancakes with IOS challenge.
Stay tuned, folks!




On 26/08/2015, at 6:39 AM, george b mailto:gbma...@gmail.com>> wrote:

And why would we care about this and why is it posted here
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*Subject:*My I O S 1 Day Challenge, Part 1
So guys, maybe I am a bit of an extremest, however I have decided to
take a major challenge upon  myself.  So many people have said that I
O S is at a point where it could almost serve as a production based
computer setup for some people.  I decided, techy as I am, to take
this challenge and see if that is really the case for my daily
lifestyle.  Does it mean that I am going to use I O S exclusively
from this point forward, and never use a computer again?  Hell! no!
All I'm saying is, I wanted to really truely give the mobile world a
fair chance, and really take it to the extreme.
Therefore, for the next 24 hours, I am trying to stay off my pc as
much as humanly possible.  Obviously, if a customer of mine needs
something done that I find isn't working with I O S, then I'll hop on
my mac or my PC, and get it done, but even then, I won't do so unless
it winds up being a very very last resort.  I really am open-minded
about wanting to try this and really see if I truely can manage with
only a mobile device, be it my IPhone, or my IPad to do this.
This said, here is the first challenge I've hit.  I know that being
you all won't be able to see what I'm seeing first hand, it's going
to make things a bit difficult, but trust me when I say, this was a
nightmare!
I am running a droplet on Digital Ocean of UBuntu 14.04 64 bit,
Server.  On here, I have followed the instructions posted by Nerd
Vittles and have installed Asterisk's Incredible PBX.  Tonight, I
wanted to add an entry to my main company IVR.  So, I grabbed my
IPad, and went to the FreePBX admin web interface.  I have IPTables
installed locking it down to my IP address, so even if I was to give
you all the URL to go to, it wouldn't work for you guys.  Just take
my word for this.  The page loaded just fine, but first off, I saw
the link on this page to log into the ISynthany server, if I had one
configured, which I don't.  I also saw the button to load the user
panel login screen.  When I double tapped on this button however, I
was presented with a page telling me that Safari was unable to
connect.  I know this is baloni, as both my windows PC, as well as
all 3 of my macs can connect with absolutely no problem to that page.
So, I backed myself out, back to the main FreePBX page, and proceeded
to look for the link/button to log into the admin panel.  Try as I
may however, the link was nowhere to be found.  I know where the link
should be on the page, but neither touch exploration nor flicking
would focus it.  Now, to be fair, let me say this.  I do not know if
the link was visibly there on the screen.  If I had to guess based on
my touch exploration, I'd say it probably most likely wasn't, but
again, let's be totally fair.  I cannot prove this one way or
another.  I turned off, and back on Voiceover, which did entirely no
good.  I also tried using my item chooser list, which yielded
nothing.  Finally, at my whit's end, I turned my rotor to links, and
found nothing, buttons, and found nothing, and even form controls,
and found nothing.
I tried this both with, and without a bluetooth keyboard.  So
needless to say, either the way that site is scripted/coded is just
very very! nonstandard, or Safari is just having a major fit with
this web admin interface.
Is this real common that you'll see web pages on the mobile side of
things not render well?  I e

Re: testing a headphone mic

['Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries]

Or if you have skype use the audio test service this will let you know 
if your mic is working and how it sounds.


On 24/08/2015 23:25, Alex Hall wrote:

QuickTime, which should be on your Mac already, can do that. In the File Menu, choose 
"new audio recording" and then set the settings. It's not the easiest program 
in the world to use for recording, but it should do fine for your purposes.

On Aug 24, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Chris Moore  wrote:

How can I test whether the mic in my headphones is working?  What program can I 
use to do a simple voice recording?

Thanks
Chris

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Re: tw blue

['Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries]

HI,   sorry the caps lock was on anyway will try later thanks anyway.
> On 17 Aug 2015, at 11:40, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Try this link.
> 
> http://twblue.com.mx/index.en.html
> 
> 
> Do let me know if it works.
> 
> When I tried it from my end I got a Page not displayed error.
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
> 
> 
> On 8/17/2015 6:44 PM, 'Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hello, do you have a page where I can get this app for window's?   I tried 
>> googleing it and seemed to get a load of nonsense thanks in advance.
>> 
>> On 17/08/2015 02:46, May McDonald wrote:
>>> lol, there's always something wrong in regards to night owl. 'm always 
>>> checking to see if other twitter clients come out that will work on the 
>>> mac. I only asked about tw blue because it's the latest to get rid of the 
>>> 140 char limit.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 16, 2015, at 8:01 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hey May. Unfortunately the developer stopped making TW Blue for the Mac so 
>>>> there's no way to download it. Is there something wrong with Night Owl 
>>>> that you need TW Blue?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 16, 2015, at 6:27 PM, May McDonald  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hey, does anyone know if tw blue twitter client is or will work on the 
>>>>> mac as well? If it does where can I get it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> May and LD Luna Moon!
>>>>> www.canadianlynx.ca
>>>>> m...@canadianlynx.ca
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Re: tw blue

['Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries]

Hello,   do you have a page where I can get this app for window's?   I 
tried googleing it and seemed to get a load of nonsense thanks in advance.


On 17/08/2015 02:46, May McDonald wrote:

lol, there's always something wrong in regards to night owl. 'm always checking 
to see if other twitter clients come out that will work on the mac. I only 
asked about tw blue because it's the latest to get rid of the 140 char limit.



On Aug 16, 2015, at 8:01 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:

Hey May. Unfortunately the developer stopped making TW Blue for the Mac so 
there's no way to download it. Is there something wrong with Night Owl that you 
need TW Blue?

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 16, 2015, at 6:27 PM, May McDonald  wrote:

Hey, does anyone know if tw blue twitter client is or will work on the mac as 
well? If it does where can I get it?

May and LD Luna Moon!
www.canadianlynx.ca
m...@canadianlynx.ca



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Re: BootCamp drivers for Windows 10 now available.

['Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,   I will leave it just now I am not really in a hurry to upgrade 
this box yet I have upgraded 4 this week could do with a break Lol.


On 13/08/2015 21:11, sadam.li...@gmail.com wrote:

Possibly. You can always try Apple support page and manually download it.

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Re: BootCamp drivers for Windows 10 now available.

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Hi,   I tried yr suggestion,   I got apple updater or something like 
this desktop app,   I clicked on it and the only update I saw was quick 
time maybe not relieced over in the UK yet?


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No worries.

Happy to help.

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Re: BootCamp drivers for Windows 10 now available.

['Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,   this is good news,  I don't have boot camp on this mac mini well I 
do I just didn't install window's that way I made another partition and 
just installed window's10 it worked with a bit of carrying on at first 
but works well enough now but I do have the air and this thing is boot 
camped. thanks for yr help.


On 13/08/2015 22:34, Sadam Ahmed wrote:

After booting into your current install of Windows, type Apple software
update into the search box.

 From there it's pretty standard.

I can confirm that the FN key now works as expected.

Sadam Ahmed

On 8/13/2015 9:19 PM, 'Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi, sorry to ask do we just go into software update and get this from
the app store? if not please let me know how to get this with thanks.

On 13/08/2015 12:12, Sadam Ahmed wrote:

Greetings all,

For those of you who updated to Windows 10 and found some hardware
features not working. Apple has released BootCamp version 6.

Kind regards,

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Re: BootCamp drivers for Windows 10 now available.

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Hi,   sorry to ask do we just go into software update and get this from 
the app store? if not please let me know how to get this with thanks.


On 13/08/2015 12:12, Sadam Ahmed wrote:

Greetings all,

For those of you who updated to Windows 10 and found some hardware
features not working. Apple has released BootCamp version 6.

Kind regards,

Sadam Ahmed



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Re: Pros and cons of a Mac mini

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Ok,   sorry must be getting mixed up.  please explain what this app 
does?   I thought it let you run a mac mini with no display connected? 
but now it would seem you have to have your I phone switched on so it 
can send the video is this correct? I would not really want to have to 
do this as like now my phone is switched off I just have my mac mini 
connected to the TV with a long HDMI leed and have the telly off and it 
just works. thanks in advance.


On 25/07/2015 21:25, Devin Prater wrote:

Duet


Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 25, 2015, at 2:33 PM, 'Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

OK,   not that interested but know someone who might what is the name of that 
app please? thanks in advance.

On 25 Jul 2015, at 14:40, Devin Prater  wrote:

Well, what I've done in the mean time, is use an app that sends the mac's video 
to an iPhone.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 25, 2015, at 6:03 AM, 'Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hello,   yes that is what I have done as well just works.

On 24 Jul 2015, at 19:10, Kliph  wrote:

Since the MacMini can be connected viah HDMI cable, you can go grab a HDTV 19 
or 22 inches, maybe smaller for less than 150 bucks.  Works like a charm.  I 
don't even use my HDTV for this, but it is hooked up viah HDMI cable just in 
case I need sited help with something, witch is very rare since the mac rocks 
on accessibliity.

Transmitted from the Delta Quadrant


On Jul 24, 2015, at 1:20 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:

Be careful about the monitor though. I have an HP monitor that came with an old HP 
desktop computer, and the monitor simply will not work. I've got it plugged into the mac 
via the VGA adaptor plugged into the thunderbult plug on the Mini. The mac will not 
recognize the display, saying "unknown display" in system preferences then 
displays. I looked on the Apple support forum and that HP monitor was specifically made 
for Windows.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 24, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:

Hi Pam,
I think the advice you have gotten for your friend about sticking with Windows 
is probably good. However, I don't agree with the folks who say if you're going 
to buy, get an air, not a mini, and here's why.

It is true that with a mini, you must buy a keyboard and speakers. And I think 
you still need a monitor, although those are cheap, and if he has a Windows 
machine with the monitor, he probably already has something that would work. 
The cost of the mini would probably come up to be about the cost of an air if 
you add those things in, depending on the price of the speakers of course. You 
would end up with better speakers, of course. You would also have the 
possibility of getting a full keyboard including the keypad, which does not 
come on the air. That gives you two sets of complete arrow keys plus the keypad 
which you can use with the keypad commander. Also, the mini is more powerful 
than the air, that is better processor more RAM more storage. So, unless 
portability is a big deal, I think the mini is a better thing. Maybe I'm 
prejudiced, because I have one. I would not trade it for an air, unless I 
needed that portability.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 24, 2015, at 5:49 AM, Pamela Francis  wrote:

Hi everyone,
I have a friend who is considering purchasing a Mac mini. The basic reason for 
wanting the Mac Mini is cost. He also does not want to take the time to learn 
windows eight or windows 10. He's been stuck on Windows XP since long before 
support stopped last year. His only dealings with voiceover is with iOS devices 
along with his AppleTV. He is not one who does well with major change in 
electronics in his life. I don't want to turn this into an Apple versus Windows 
discussion other than to say I suggested he look for a Windows 7 machine 
because it was something  that he is familiar with. My question for the group 
is this; other than the base cost, as I understand it of $699 for the Mac Mini, 
what are the auxiliary purchases needed in order to make it functional? If I'm 
correct, that does not include a screen, does it include a keyboard or  
speakers?
I also know firsthand what it's like attempting to learn a new operating system 
and screen reader on your own. I had the patients. He does not. Thank God for 
this group. I would've been lost. I'm attempting to get him to join it before 
he makes his purchase. Any suggestions or help you could offer would be greatly 
appreciated.
Many many thanks,

Pam Francis

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Re: Pros and cons of a Mac mini

['Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries]

OK,   not that interested but know someone who might what is the name of that 
app please? thanks in advance.
> On 25 Jul 2015, at 14:40, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> Well, what I've done in the mean time, is use an app that sends the mac's 
> video to an iPhone. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 25, 2015, at 6:03 AM, 'Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,   yes that is what I have done as well just works.
>>> On 24 Jul 2015, at 19:10, Kliph  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Since the MacMini can be connected viah HDMI cable, you can go grab a HDTV 
>>> 19 or 22 inches, maybe smaller for less than 150 bucks.  Works like a 
>>> charm.  I don't even use my HDTV for this, but it is hooked up viah HDMI 
>>> cable just in case I need sited help with something, witch is very rare 
>>> since the mac rocks on accessibliity.
>>> 
>>> Transmitted from the Delta Quadrant
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 24, 2015, at 1:20 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Be careful about the monitor though. I have an HP monitor that came with 
>>>> an old HP desktop computer, and the monitor simply will not work. I've got 
>>>> it plugged into the mac via the VGA adaptor plugged into the thunderbult 
>>>> plug on the Mini. The mac will not recognize the display, saying "unknown 
>>>> display" in system preferences then displays. I looked on the Apple 
>>>> support forum and that HP monitor was specifically made for Windows. 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 24, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Pam,
>>>>> I think the advice you have gotten for your friend about sticking with 
>>>>> Windows is probably good. However, I don't agree with the folks who say 
>>>>> if you're going to buy, get an air, not a mini, and here's why. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> It is true that with a mini, you must buy a keyboard and speakers. And I 
>>>>> think you still need a monitor, although those are cheap, and if he has a 
>>>>> Windows machine with the monitor, he probably already has something that 
>>>>> would work. The cost of the mini would probably come up to be about the 
>>>>> cost of an air if you add those things in, depending on the price of the 
>>>>> speakers of course. You would end up with better speakers, of course. You 
>>>>> would also have the possibility of getting a full keyboard including the 
>>>>> keypad, which does not come on the air. That gives you two sets of 
>>>>> complete arrow keys plus the keypad which you can use with the keypad 
>>>>> commander. Also, the mini is more powerful than the air, that is better 
>>>>> processor more RAM more storage. So, unless portability is a big deal, I 
>>>>> think the mini is a better thing. Maybe I'm prejudiced, because I have 
>>>>> one. I would not trade it for an air, unless I needed that portability.
>>>>> Mary
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2015, at 5:49 AM, Pamela Francis  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>> I have a friend who is considering purchasing a Mac mini. The basic 
>>>>>> reason for wanting the Mac Mini is cost. He also does not want to take 
>>>>>> the time to learn windows eight or windows 10. He's been stuck on 
>>>>>> Windows XP since long before support stopped last year. His only 
>>>>>> dealings with voiceover is with iOS devices along with his AppleTV. He 
>>>>>> is not one who does well with major change in electronics in his life. I 
>>>>>> don't want to turn this into an Apple versus Windows discussion other 
>>>>>> than to say I suggested he look for a Windows 7 machine because it was 
>>>>>> something  that he is familiar with. My question for the group is this; 
>>>>>> other than the base cost, as I understand it of $699 for the Mac Mini, 
>>>>>> what are the auxiliary purchases needed in order to make it functional? 
>>>>>> If I'm correct, that does not include a screen, does it include a 
>>>>>> keyboard or  speakers? 
>>>>>> I also know firsthand what it's li

Re: Pros and cons of a Mac mini

['Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries]

Hello,   yes that is what I have done as well just works.
> On 24 Jul 2015, at 19:10, Kliph  wrote:
> 
> Since the MacMini can be connected viah HDMI cable, you can go grab a HDTV 19 
> or 22 inches, maybe smaller for less than 150 bucks.  Works like a charm.  I 
> don't even use my HDTV for this, but it is hooked up viah HDMI cable just in 
> case I need sited help with something, witch is very rare since the mac rocks 
> on accessibliity.
> 
> Transmitted from the Delta Quadrant
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2015, at 1:20 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>> Be careful about the monitor though. I have an HP monitor that came with an 
>> old HP desktop computer, and the monitor simply will not work. I've got it 
>> plugged into the mac via the VGA adaptor plugged into the thunderbult plug 
>> on the Mini. The mac will not recognize the display, saying "unknown 
>> display" in system preferences then displays. I looked on the Apple support 
>> forum and that HP monitor was specifically made for Windows. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Pam,
>>> I think the advice you have gotten for your friend about sticking with 
>>> Windows is probably good. However, I don't agree with the folks who say if 
>>> you're going to buy, get an air, not a mini, and here's why. 
>>> 
>>> It is true that with a mini, you must buy a keyboard and speakers. And I 
>>> think you still need a monitor, although those are cheap, and if he has a 
>>> Windows machine with the monitor, he probably already has something that 
>>> would work. The cost of the mini would probably come up to be about the 
>>> cost of an air if you add those things in, depending on the price of the 
>>> speakers of course. You would end up with better speakers, of course. You 
>>> would also have the possibility of getting a full keyboard including the 
>>> keypad, which does not come on the air. That gives you two sets of complete 
>>> arrow keys plus the keypad which you can use with the keypad commander. 
>>> Also, the mini is more powerful than the air, that is better processor more 
>>> RAM more storage. So, unless portability is a big deal, I think the mini is 
>>> a better thing. Maybe I'm prejudiced, because I have one. I would not trade 
>>> it for an air, unless I needed that portability.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jul 24, 2015, at 5:49 AM, Pamela Francis  wrote:
 
 Hi everyone,
 I have a friend who is considering purchasing a Mac mini. The basic reason 
 for wanting the Mac Mini is cost. He also does not want to take the time 
 to learn windows eight or windows 10. He's been stuck on Windows XP since 
 long before support stopped last year. His only dealings with voiceover is 
 with iOS devices along with his AppleTV. He is not one who does well with 
 major change in electronics in his life. I don't want to turn this into an 
 Apple versus Windows discussion other than to say I suggested he look for 
 a Windows 7 machine because it was something  that he is familiar with. My 
 question for the group is this; other than the base cost, as I understand 
 it of $699 for the Mac Mini, what are the auxiliary purchases needed in 
 order to make it functional? If I'm correct, that does not include a 
 screen, does it include a keyboard or  speakers? 
 I also know firsthand what it's like attempting to learn a new operating 
 system and screen reader on your own. I had the patients. He does not. 
 Thank God for this group. I would've been lost. I'm attempting to get him 
 to join it before he makes his purchase. Any suggestions or help you could 
 offer would be greatly appreciated.
 Many many thanks, 
 
 Pam Francis
 
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Re: VM insert key on OSX tutorial

['Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,   yes handy thanks.
> On 15 Jul 2015, at 21:32, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Marco Zehe from Mozilla wrote up his solution to getting the caps lock key to 
> act as both the VO keys on OSX and the Insert key when running VMWare with 
> Windows and Jaws or NVDA. This seems to come up pretty often so hopefully 
> folks can keep this link around and just paste it into the message thread 
> whenever it comes up rather than re-writing instructions every time. Not sure 
> I would bother with the VO remap part but at least you'd have one key for 
> both sides.
> 
> https://www.marcozehe.de/2015/06/07/how-to-map-your-macs-capslock-key-to-a-nvda-or-jaws-key-in-a-windows-virtual-machine/
> 
> CB
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Re: another mail client?

['Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,   will check to morrow but sure this is already checked. thanks anyway.

On 13/07/2015 21:44, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

Changing that setting in Mail is especially useful for those people using gmail 
with the iMap protocol.  Make sure that the gMail account is selected from the 
Accounts table, then do as Jim outlined.
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 13, 2015, at 14:26, Jim Gatteys  wrote:

Hi Kevin!
I changed a setting under preferences/accounts/advanced.  It is: Automatically 
detect and maintain account settings and when Imade that change it seems to 
work much better for me.
Not sure if anybody else has done this


On Jul 13, 2015, at 3:13 PM, 'Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

OK,   for me I use I map for all accounts,   I have 2 gmail accounts icloud and 
I have a blueyonder account,   I get a lot of mail on this account,   it takes 
ages to pick the mail up at least half an hour!   if I say use window's for a 
few days then go back to the mac I get loads of mail from days ago. I don't get 
this using Ios and don't get this problem using window's. so that is for me 
what is wrong with the built in mail program on the mac.  I use thunderbird 
over on window's the built in program over on ios that really just works. so I 
would like to know if thunderbird is accessible for the mac?  the last time I 
asked I am sure I got told it was not accessible. I expect the answer to be the 
same as I never hear anyone saying they are using this program it's a shame as 
it really works for me.




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Re: another mail client?

['Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries]

Hello,   I think this may be checked already is this correct? thanks in 
advance.


On 13/07/2015 21:26, Jim Gatteys wrote:

Hi Kevin!
I changed a setting under preferences/accounts/advanced.  It is: Automatically 
detect and maintain account settings and when Imade that change it seems to 
work much better for me.
Not sure if anybody else has done this


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 wrote:

OK,   for me I use I map for all accounts,   I have 2 gmail accounts icloud and 
I have a blueyonder account,   I get a lot of mail on this account,   it takes 
ages to pick the mail up at least half an hour!   if I say use window's for a 
few days then go back to the mac I get loads of mail from days ago. I don't get 
this using Ios and don't get this problem using window's. so that is for me 
what is wrong with the built in mail program on the mac.  I use thunderbird 
over on window's the built in program over on ios that really just works. so I 
would like to know if thunderbird is accessible for the mac?  the last time I 
asked I am sure I got told it was not accessible. I expect the answer to be the 
same as I never hear anyone saying they are using this program it's a shame as 
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Re: another mail client?

['Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries]

OK,   for me I use I map for all accounts,   I have 2 gmail accounts 
icloud and I have a blueyonder account,   I get a lot of mail on this 
account,   it takes ages to pick the mail up at least half an hour!   if 
I say use window's for a few days then go back to the mac I get loads of 
mail from days ago. I don't get this using Ios and don't get this 
problem using window's. so that is for me what is wrong with the built 
in mail program on the mac.  I use thunderbird over on window's the 
built in program over on ios that really just works. so I would like to 
know if thunderbird is accessible for the mac?  the last time I asked I 
am sure I got told it was not accessible. I expect the answer to be the 
same as I never hear anyone saying they are using this program it's a 
shame as it really works for me.


On 13/07/2015 18:23, Jamie Pauls wrote:

I am curious as to why others are so dissatisfied with Mac Mail. There are some 
VoiceOver quirks in the latest official release of the OS X, but I find that 
there is a lot to like about Mac Mail.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Dionipher Presas Herrera
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 12:21 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: another mail client?

i say wait for il capitan

On 13 Jul 2015, at 7:57 AM, Sean Murphy  wrote:

Use ms outlook

Do not know about thunderbird.

My experience is the part


On 13 Jul 2015, at 2:50 pm, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:

MailMate? That came close, last time I looked …

Nah, you’re right—this is one area where it sucks to be a Mac user, bigtime.

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Re: Remote Control for Mac?

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Hi,   sory didn’t try it just seen it sort again.  but at least I know now.
> On 22 Jun 2015, at 21:49, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Microsoft Remote Desktop is free but it only lets you connect to Windows 
> boxes from your Mac, not the other way around and not Mac to Mac.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 6/22/15 3:40 PM, 'Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hello,   I am sure on the app store microsofts remote desktop can be bought 
>> or maybe it’s free,   on window’s there is an option to play the audio from 
>> your computer to the other connected computer don’t know if this is the same 
>> on the mac version but maybe worth taking a look?
>>> On 22 Jun 2015, at 16:00, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Last I checked, TeamViewer had the same problem: lack of audio 
>>> pass-through. It worked well otherwise, but you still needed a separate 
>>> audio connection.
>>>> On Jun 22, 2015, at 10:10 AM, 'Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
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>>>> What about Teamviewer?
>>>> GB.
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Re: Remote Control for Mac?

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Hello,   I am sure on the app store microsofts remote desktop can be bought or 
maybe it’s free,   on window’s there is an option to play the audio from your 
computer to the other connected computer don’t know if this is the same on the 
mac version but maybe worth taking a look?
> On 22 Jun 2015, at 16:00, Alex Hall  wrote:
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> Last I checked, TeamViewer had the same problem: lack of audio pass-through. 
> It worked well otherwise, but you still needed a separate audio connection.
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>> What about Teamviewer?
>> GB.
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Re: time for Apple to get a new default voice

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Well I use Fiona Compact and have it as fast as I can and love it. but 
each to there own.


On 10/06/2015 20:16, Jonathan Mosen wrote:

Hi Christopher. I think it depends on the hearing loss. I've worked with people 
for example with a hearing loss who find Alex unintelligible once you go a 
little above the default rate, but who can have compact Daniel cranked up 
remarkably fast.
Personally I'd be delighted to have Eloquence on my Mac because Alex 
mispronounces far too much for my liking. The moral of the story is the more 
choice of TTS a screen reader company can offer, the better. Speech is 
extremely subjective.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org


On 11/06/2015, at 6:28 am, christopher hallsworth  
wrote:

Might be coming next year . Seriously though, I don't ever want Apple to 
remove Alex. He's fantastic for someone with moderately severe to profound hearing 
loss which I have. The other voices included are fine, but doesn't cut it like Alex.

On 10 Jun 2015, at 18:46, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:

Hi Ray. I don't really want Apple to get rid of Alex. I lve the fact that he 
takes breaths and everything. I am with you on one thing though, I hope Apple 
considers making the Siri voices available in El Capitan. After all, you can 
get them for NVDA in Windows so why can't it be done on the Mac?

Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook




On Jun 10, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

Subject line pretty much says it all.  Nothing against Alex mind you:  but, 
frankly, I reckon it's high time Apple adopted a new and much more updated 
default voice.  The new Siri male US English voice might perhaps be a good 
choice.  Here's hoping we see this one in Elcapitan.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray

Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,
the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in


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Re: My Mac Book Pro problems

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don't worry John we all do it,   I was going to say something but 
thought it might be a bit petty.   as I say don't worry about it.


On 03/06/2015 20:47, John's Gmail wrote:

Wow, I guess I am getting old. I didn't realize that I had put all of
that in the subject field.

Press the up volume and down volume the volume does not change except
when I get to the very bottom and then it just drops out completely
pressing up volume once it comes back. Do you know what might be causing
that or where the setting is to fix it?

John Harden
Quality Brailler Repair LLC

For professional Perkins Braille Writer repair.
386-846-1325
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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Kevin Cussick]

Hi Donna,   Please keep us informed on how the watch performs watching 
with interest.


On 18/04/2015 21:22, Donna Goodin wrote:

I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided to take a 
look at the Apple watch.  I was very interested in it, but not sure what I 
would think, based on the mixed reviews I've seen.  It was hard to tell much 
because they weren't able to demo voiceover, but I liked the form factor, and 
thought the stuff I was hearing from the video demo was pretty cool.  Since I 
have fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, I decided to go ahead and 
pre-order one.  I just got the aluminum sports model, because I figure it's 
highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when newer generations are released, so 
didn't see the sense in shelling out the extra $200.  Looking forward to its 
arrival and getting to actually put it through its paces.
Cheers,
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Re: Bying a new mac.

[Kevin Cussick]

I will see if I can get this on amazon UK thanks very much most helpful.

On 07/04/2015 22:32, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote:

I suspect it's the CompuLab Display Emulator which is US$15 on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/CompuLab-fit-Headless-Display-Emulator/dp/B00FLZXGJ6/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1428442208&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=hdmi+headless+devices


I haven't tried this myself so I don't know if it makes a Mini happy.

CB

On 4/7/15 5:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

I think headlesdevices.com can't remember though but you can look
using Google as well.

Kawal.
On 5 Apr 2015, at 20:37, Kevin Cussick
 wrote:

Ok,   where do you buy these headless devices? thanks in advance.

On 04/04/2015 23:17, Alex Hall wrote:

Plugging a cable in won't work. At least, I know DVI cables won't trick
it, and I've been told that HDMI don't either. That said, people report
that some newer Minis don't have the problem of lagging with no display
connected. Mine did, and it was a 2011, but others report no such
difficulties. It seems to depend on your machine.

On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

O, K, but I was just trying to make a point.  If you don't have a
monitor connected, then how are you keeping Voiceover from lagging to
a  kur splat crawl?  I heard if you don't have a display connected,
this will definitely happen.  Are you just plugging a dummy cable to
the display port to trick it?  I hear you can do that, but I've never
actually tried.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu"
mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>>
To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: Bying a new mac.


I do not use a monitor with mine, I just have a headless device. Works
very well. If I needed a screen, I'd connect it to my I Mac.




On 4 Apr 2015, at 6:53 pm, Christopher-Mark Gilland
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Anders,

Oh my heavens, yes!  The new mac mini's are incredibly! and I do mean
incredibly! well priced.  If memory serves correct, an I5 4GB ram,
5200RPM mac mini is somewhere in the ballpark of $580 before tax.
And yes, it would come with Yosemite.  Now, beware, it doesn't come
with a monitor, speakers, a mouse, or keyboard.  You'd have to buy
those separetly, however, you can get a fairly decently cheap monitor
for just over $100. In fact, what I've! actually done is to get a
cheap little flat pannel television with HDMI. Then, I just ran the
mac  directly into it, then set the source on the TV to HDMI, and
boom!  There you go!  A very nice monitor, and, the sound audio even
will be piped through the TV speakers, eliminating the need for
seperet PC speakers.  Now, that said, if you're gonna do audio
production stuff, I don't know how serious you are about that side of
music production, but if you're a pro, like me, then obviously,
you're going to want to get a higher end audio interface, and maybe
even a control surface.  The surface isn't required, but it certainly
bigtime will help.  The interface however would almost definitely be
a given.  One interface I really really love, it's not being made any
longer, but search Amazon, or EBay or the like, as I'm positivbe! you
could find one still new unboxed, is the M-Audio Fasttrack C400.
It's even very portable and quite accessible.  If you find one, I'd
be happy to help you set it up over Facetime, Skype, or the like.  It
would be a pleasure to do so.  Also, obviously, if you're really
serious about this, I'd look into a pare of good studio monitors.

It really does just depend on how far you want to take things.

Then, of corse, though Logic X is doable, dont' get me wrong, the
accessibility isn't probably going to be the most ideal.  Let me be
very clear, so I don't get my ass kicked.  Logic does? work, yes,
but! you will be somewhat limited.

Though way more expensive, I'll admit, ProTools definitely! is the
way you'd wanna go.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Anders Holmberg"
mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>>
To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 7:08 AM
Subject: Bying a new mac.



Hi!
I am about to buy a new mac soon this year.
But i really don't  know what to buy which fits my needs.
I will search for some funding to have the ability to buy a new one.
So i guess there wont be no mac pro which anyway is a bit  overkill
even though it could be cool to have one.
And i am totally blind so i don't  need the imac with retina support.
What i want is a computer for mail, internet and some music
production.
Will a new mac mini be enough for music production or should i stick
with a macbook pro?
I really need some suggestions even though i kn

Re: Bying a new mac.

[Kevin Cussick]

Hi,   sorry can you give the name of the device so I can search on 
amazon UK thanks.


On 06/04/2015 19:40, Anders
 wrote:

Hi!
I bought a small device that fits in to the hdmi port which acts as a dummy.
You can buy it on amazon.
/A

5 apr 2015 kl. 01:28 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland :

Hmm.  Interesting.  I wonder what on earth would make it vary from machine to 
machine, or do you mean more not so much that, as much as more model to model.

Chris.


- Original Message -
From: Alex Hall 
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: Bying a new mac.

Plugging a cable in won't work. At least, I know DVI cables won't trick it, and 
I've been told that HDMI don't either. That said, people report that some newer 
Minis don't have the problem of lagging with no display connected. Mine did, 
and it was a 2011, but others report no such difficulties. It seems to depend 
on your machine.

On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

O, K, but I was just trying to make a point.  If you don't have a monitor 
connected, then how are you keeping Voiceover from lagging to a  kur splat 
crawl?  I heard if you don't have a display connected, this will definitely 
happen.  Are you just plugging a dummy cable to the display port to trick it?  
I hear you can do that, but I've never actually tried.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>>
To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: Bying a new mac.


I do not use a monitor with mine, I just have a headless device. Works very 
well. If I needed a screen, I'd connect it to my I Mac.




On 4 Apr 2015, at 6:53 pm, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Anders,

Oh my heavens, yes!  The new mac mini's are incredibly! and I do mean 
incredibly! well priced.  If memory serves correct, an I5 4GB ram, 5200RPM mac 
mini is somewhere in the ballpark of $580 before tax.  And yes, it would come 
with Yosemite.  Now, beware, it doesn't come with a monitor, speakers, a mouse, 
or keyboard.  You'd have to buy those separetly, however, you can get a fairly 
decently cheap monitor for just over $100. In fact, what I've! actually done is 
to get a cheap little flat pannel television with HDMI. Then, I just ran the 
mac  directly into it, then set the source on the TV to HDMI, and boom!  There 
you go!  A very nice monitor, and, the sound audio even will be piped through 
the TV speakers, eliminating the need for seperet PC speakers.  Now, that said, 
if you're gonna do audio production stuff, I don't know how serious you are 
about that side of music production, but if you're a pro, like me, then 
obviously, you're going to want to get a higher end audio inter

face, and maybe even a control surface.  The surface isn't required, but it 
certainly bigtime will help.  The interface however would almost definitely be 
a given.  One interface I really really love, it's not being made any longer, 
but search Amazon, or EBay or the like, as I'm positivbe! you could find one 
still new unboxed, is the M-Audio Fasttrack C400.  It's even very portable and 
quite accessible.  If you find one, I'd be happy to help you set it up over 
Facetime, Skype, or the like.  It would be a pleasure to do so.  Also, 
obviously, if you're really serious about this, I'd look into a pare of good 
studio monitors.


It really does just depend on how far you want to take things.

Then, of corse, though Logic X is doable, dont' get me wrong, the accessibility 
isn't probably going to be the most ideal.  Let me be very clear, so I don't 
get my ass kicked.  Logic does? work, yes, but! you will be somewhat limited.

Though way more expensive, I'll admit, ProTools definitely! is the way you'd 
wanna go.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Anders Holmberg" mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>>
To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 7:08 AM
Subject: Bying a new mac.



Hi!
I am about to buy a new mac soon this year.
But i really don't  know what to buy which fits my needs.
I will search for some funding to have the ability to buy a new one.
So i guess there wont be no mac pro which anyway is a bit  overkill even though 
it could be cool to have one.
And i am totally blind so i don't  need the imac with retina support.
What i want is a computer for mail, internet and some music production.
Will a new mac mini be enough for music production or should i stick with a 
macbook pro?
I really need some suggestions even though i know its hard to help.
I now have a mac mini mid 2011 which ofcourse  begins to be a bit oldish.
The new upcomming macbook seems to be a bit to much for the money i think.
So please help.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Bying a new mac.

[Kevin Cussick]

Hello,   can you give me a search term pleas sorry.

On 05/04/2015 20:40, Kliph wrote:

Amazon sells them. 15 and 25 bucks
the 25 dollars one is for 5k resolution, but the 15 bucks one works just fine.  
YOur mini will never know any different.

On Apr 5, 2015, at 3:37 PM, Kevin Cussick 
 wrote:

Ok,   where do you buy these headless devices? thanks in advance.

On 04/04/2015 23:17, Alex Hall wrote:

Plugging a cable in won't work. At least, I know DVI cables won't trick
it, and I've been told that HDMI don't either. That said, people report
that some newer Minis don't have the problem of lagging with no display
connected. Mine did, and it was a 2011, but others report no such
difficulties. It seems to depend on your machine.

On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

O, K, but I was just trying to make a point.  If you don't have a
monitor connected, then how are you keeping Voiceover from lagging to
a  kur splat crawl?  I heard if you don't have a display connected,
this will definitely happen.  Are you just plugging a dummy cable to
the display port to trick it?  I hear you can do that, but I've never
actually tried.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu"
mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>>
To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: Bying a new mac.


I do not use a monitor with mine, I just have a headless device. Works
very well. If I needed a screen, I'd connect it to my I Mac.




On 4 Apr 2015, at 6:53 pm, Christopher-Mark Gilland
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Anders,

Oh my heavens, yes!  The new mac mini's are incredibly! and I do mean
incredibly! well priced.  If memory serves correct, an I5 4GB ram,
5200RPM mac mini is somewhere in the ballpark of $580 before tax.
And yes, it would come with Yosemite.  Now, beware, it doesn't come
with a monitor, speakers, a mouse, or keyboard.  You'd have to buy
those separetly, however, you can get a fairly decently cheap monitor
for just over $100. In fact, what I've! actually done is to get a
cheap little flat pannel television with HDMI. Then, I just ran the
mac  directly into it, then set the source on the TV to HDMI, and
boom!  There you go!  A very nice monitor, and, the sound audio even
will be piped through the TV speakers, eliminating the need for
seperet PC speakers.  Now, that said, if you're gonna do audio
production stuff, I don't know how serious you are about that side of
music production, but if you're a pro, like me, then obviously,
you're going to want to get a higher end audio interface, and maybe
even a control surface.  The surface isn't required, but it certainly
bigtime will help.  The interface however would almost definitely be
a given.  One interface I really really love, it's not being made any
longer, but search Amazon, or EBay or the like, as I'm positivbe! you
could find one still new unboxed, is the M-Audio Fasttrack C400.
It's even very portable and quite accessible.  If you find one, I'd
be happy to help you set it up over Facetime, Skype, or the like.  It
would be a pleasure to do so.  Also, obviously, if you're really
serious about this, I'd look into a pare of good studio monitors.

It really does just depend on how far you want to take things.

Then, of corse, though Logic X is doable, dont' get me wrong, the
accessibility isn't probably going to be the most ideal.  Let me be
very clear, so I don't get my ass kicked.  Logic does? work, yes,
but! you will be somewhat limited.

Though way more expensive, I'll admit, ProTools definitely! is the
way you'd wanna go.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Anders Holmberg"
mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>>
To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 7:08 AM
Subject: Bying a new mac.



Hi!
I am about to buy a new mac soon this year.
But i really don't  know what to buy which fits my needs.
I will search for some funding to have the ability to buy a new one.
So i guess there wont be no mac pro which anyway is a bit  overkill
even though it could be cool to have one.
And i am totally blind so i don't  need the imac with retina support.
What i want is a computer for mail, internet and some music production.
Will a new mac mini be enough for music production or should i stick
with a macbook pro?
I really need some suggestions even though i know its hard to help.
I now have a mac mini mid 2011 which ofcourse  begins to be a bit
oldish.
The new upcomming macbook seems to be a bit to much for the money i
think.
So please help.
Thanks in advance.
/A

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Re: Bying a new mac.

[Kevin Cussick]

Ok,   where do you buy these headless devices? thanks in advance.

On 04/04/2015 23:17, Alex Hall wrote:

Plugging a cable in won't work. At least, I know DVI cables won't trick
it, and I've been told that HDMI don't either. That said, people report
that some newer Minis don't have the problem of lagging with no display
connected. Mine did, and it was a 2011, but others report no such
difficulties. It seems to depend on your machine.

On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

O, K, but I was just trying to make a point.  If you don't have a
monitor connected, then how are you keeping Voiceover from lagging to
a  kur splat crawl?  I heard if you don't have a display connected,
this will definitely happen.  Are you just plugging a dummy cable to
the display port to trick it?  I hear you can do that, but I've never
actually tried.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu"
mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>>
To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: Bying a new mac.


I do not use a monitor with mine, I just have a headless device. Works
very well. If I needed a screen, I'd connect it to my I Mac.




On 4 Apr 2015, at 6:53 pm, Christopher-Mark Gilland
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Anders,

Oh my heavens, yes!  The new mac mini's are incredibly! and I do mean
incredibly! well priced.  If memory serves correct, an I5 4GB ram,
5200RPM mac mini is somewhere in the ballpark of $580 before tax.
 And yes, it would come with Yosemite.  Now, beware, it doesn't come
with a monitor, speakers, a mouse, or keyboard.  You'd have to buy
those separetly, however, you can get a fairly decently cheap monitor
for just over $100. In fact, what I've! actually done is to get a
cheap little flat pannel television with HDMI. Then, I just ran the
mac  directly into it, then set the source on the TV to HDMI, and
boom!  There you go!  A very nice monitor, and, the sound audio even
will be piped through the TV speakers, eliminating the need for
seperet PC speakers.  Now, that said, if you're gonna do audio
production stuff, I don't know how serious you are about that side of
music production, but if you're a pro, like me, then obviously,
you're going to want to get a higher end audio interface, and maybe
even a control surface.  The surface isn't required, but it certainly
bigtime will help.  The interface however would almost definitely be
a given.  One interface I really really love, it's not being made any
longer, but search Amazon, or EBay or the like, as I'm positivbe! you
could find one still new unboxed, is the M-Audio Fasttrack C400.
 It's even very portable and quite accessible.  If you find one, I'd
be happy to help you set it up over Facetime, Skype, or the like.  It
would be a pleasure to do so.  Also, obviously, if you're really
serious about this, I'd look into a pare of good studio monitors.

It really does just depend on how far you want to take things.

Then, of corse, though Logic X is doable, dont' get me wrong, the
accessibility isn't probably going to be the most ideal.  Let me be
very clear, so I don't get my ass kicked.  Logic does? work, yes,
but! you will be somewhat limited.

Though way more expensive, I'll admit, ProTools definitely! is the
way you'd wanna go.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Anders Holmberg"
mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>>
To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 7:08 AM
Subject: Bying a new mac.



Hi!
I am about to buy a new mac soon this year.
But i really don't  know what to buy which fits my needs.
I will search for some funding to have the ability to buy a new one.
So i guess there wont be no mac pro which anyway is a bit  overkill
even though it could be cool to have one.
And i am totally blind so i don't  need the imac with retina support.
What i want is a computer for mail, internet and some music production.
Will a new mac mini be enough for music production or should i stick
with a macbook pro?
I really need some suggestions even though i know its hard to help.
I now have a mac mini mid 2011 which ofcourse  begins to be a bit
oldish.
The new upcomming macbook seems to be a bit to much for the money i
think.
So please help.
Thanks in advance.
/A

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Re: Siri not available

[Kevin Cussick]

Hello,   agree with You as I had this a few weeks ago as well. 
interestingly on the I pad it still worked but not the I phone6Pluss.  I 
left it in disgust switched on in the morning and to my delight it all 
just worked again.


On 29/03/2015 14:13, David Griffith wrote:


This happened to me a couple of weeks ago and I suspect that, as the
problem eventually disappeared, it was actually a problem at the Apple end.

I have no evidence for this except that it all occurred at about the
same time as other people started reporting problems with iTunes and the
App Store. I think these problems were also eventually resolved at the
Apple End.


David Griffith

On 29/03/2015 20:00, Phil Halton wrote:

I am getting “siri not available
, connect to the internet” messages all of a sudden when I try to use
Siri.
Siri works fine when I’m on my wifi network, and it used to work fine
when away from internet connections as well. But now, if I turn off
wifi or move out of network range, I get this message.

  I’ve done a power cycle of the iPhone5 and again no Siri. I then did
a network reset with no joy. I’ve looked in the Siri settings and the
cellular settings and can find no reason for this. I’m hoping to avoid
doing a total device reset.
Any ideas?





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Re: Busy, Busy, Busy -- It's DrivingMe Nuts

[Kevin Cussick]

Hello,   I did a disk permissions last night took over night!  I still get busy 
now and again with mail but it is now working.
> On 27 Mar 2015, at 13:55, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Have you run a permissions repair from Disk Utility? I imagine erasing all 
> your accounts and starting over could help too, but that's an extreme step. I 
> can tell you that it's not the Mail app somehow needing more power; I use a 
> Macbook Air with the low end processor and 4GB ram from 2012, and it runs 
> perfectly. Your Mini has more than enough horsepower, so it has to be a 
> problem with some files. At least, that's all I can think of.
>> On Mar 27, 2015, at 12:18 AM, William Gallik  wrote:
>> 
>> I have a 2.6 GHz Mac mini with latest Yosemite installed.
>> 
>> I'm having a problem with the Mail application in that it's constantly 
>> reporting Busy; this even the only thing I might do is to try to interact 
>> with the Messages table.
>> 
>> What the H E Double-Hockey-Sticks?
>> 
>> - Bill & Leader Dog Holland
>> - "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on 
>> society."
>> - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910) 
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Re: net gear routers

[Kevin Cussick]

Hi,   I admit it as been about 2 years but the last time I tried the 
netgeer it was accessible.


On 25/03/2015 18:52, Mike Arrigo wrote:

Hey everyone. Was wondering if anyone on here has played with net gear
routers and if so, how accessible is the web interface? I know linksys
routers work really well. On the other hand, my girl friend has a d-link
router and it's awful, none of the links are labeled so I always have to
ask voiceover to give me the URL for each link.



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Re: Preview pane

[Kevin Cussick]

Hello,   thanks very much for this I have a track pad and don’t really get on 
well with it.  but I will check the settings just if needed thanks again.
> On 18 Mar 2015, at 18:01, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Dionipher,
> 
> Here are my trackpad settings in System preferences:
> • Point&Click: Tap to click unchecked checkbox, Secondary click unchecked 
> checkbox, Look up unchecked checkbox, Three finger drag unchecked checkbox, 
> Tracking speed 33.3%.
> • Scroll & Zoom: Scroll direction: natural checked checkbox, Zoom in or out 
> checked checkbox, Smart zoom unchecked checkbox, Rotate checked checkbox.
> • More Gestures: Swipe between pages unchecked checkbox, Swipe between 
> full-screen apps unchecked checkbox, Notification Center unchecked checkbox, 
> Mission Control unchecked checkbox, App Exposé unchecked checkbox, Launchpad 
> unchecked checkbox, Show Desktop unchecked checkbox.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 17 Mar 2015, at 23:25, dionipher Presas Herrera  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> hello anne, can you send again your trackpad preferences because i can seem 
>> to drag the slider up. 
>> thanks
>> dionipher
>>> On 22 Feb 2015, at 12:19, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Ed,
>>> 
>>> Yes, by “bring the mouse” i do mean VO-Cmd-F5.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
 On 22 Feb 2015, at 08:56, Edward Green  wrote:
 
 Hi Anne,
 
 Many thanks for posting this.
 
 Could I just check what you mean by ‘bring the mouse’? Do you mean VO 
 Command f5?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Ed
> On 22 Feb 2015, at 07:51, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Stacey,
> 
> This has been discussed a great deal recently, but here are the 
> instructions once again.
> 
> Here’s how to disable the preview pane.
> 
> Put Mail into classic view by opening Mail preferences (Cmd-Comma) and 
> selecting Viewing in the toolbar then checking the Use classic layout 
> check box.
> Close Mail preferences and navigate to the messages table.
> Do not interact with the messages table but press VO-Down Arrow.
> You should be on a horizontal splitter.
> Make sure the Trackpad commander and Quick Nav are off.
> Bring the mouse.
> Press down on the bottom edge of the trackpad with one finger, and use 
> another finger to stroke the trackpad toward you.
> There should be nothing below the horizontal splitter the next time you 
> press VO-Down Arrow.
> 
> Sometimes it takes several attempts to get it right.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
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Re: Test me

[Kevin Cussick]

Hi,   sorry if loads of people do this but your working fine.
> On 12 Feb 2015, at 10:42, Graham Roby  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> For some reason recent messages that I have sent from my Mac don’t appear to 
> have got through to the group. 
> 
> Can someone let me know if they receive this so I know all is working okay my 
> end. 
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Re: The switch from Microsoft to Apple

[Kevin Cussick]

Hi all,   at the risk of getting my head bitten off I still prefer 
window's at this time.  I am having so many problems getting my blue 
yonder e-mail address working that I find my self using window's most of 
the time,   I hope I can get this sorted and then I might give apple 
more of a chance.  I don't have any problems with any of my e-mail 
accounts over on Io's.


On 06/01/2015 08:52, kliphzkor...@icloud.com wrote:

The only thing I miss about windows, is the way windows media player
organized my music.  If there was an artist, that featured multiple
people on it, windows media player kept the album as 1 album, iTunes
makes it multiple ones for each artist that is featured.  That really
annoys me.  But what can you do?  Other than that, the mac is where home is!

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*Subject:* Re: The switch from Microsoft to Apple

I workaround the lack of the ability to open folders with a specific
app. For sound in this case I use the free VLC Media Player from

www.videolan.org 

I then press command-o which is a standard Mac OS X shortcut to open a
file or folder of files. I select my sound folder, press return, and VLC
will make a playlist with those sound files for me. Think of this as the
Winamp on steroids for Mac OS X. There is VLC Media Player for Windows,
but accessibility leaves a lot to be desired in my personal opinion. So
I use Winamp on the Windows side.

On 5 Jan 2015, at 21:43, Lorie McCloud mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:

good going! I made the switch rather forcefully because my Windows
pc was almost dead. I was running xp and would’ve had to get a new
pc in order to run windows 7. the only thing agrivating me so far is
that I can’t use “open with” for sound folders, only for files. I
kind of miss webvisum in Firefox too.

On Jan 5, 2015, at 1:20 AM, christopher hallsworth
mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Hi all,
Well I have some excellent news! I did it! I have switched to
Mac and iOS devices full time! Haven't used my Windows laptop
since New Year and haven't even used Windows in a virtual
machine created with Vmware Fusion at all yesterday! Anyway just
thought to let you know I have made the switch.

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Re: Installing Win 8.1 Through BootCamp Assisted with the KNFB Reader?

[Kevin Cussick]

Hi,   blind geek zone Armando someone or other did the podcast,   hope 
it may help you.


On 26/12/2014 17:03, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:

can I get a link to the podcast?
Hank

On 12/26/2014 5:49 AM, Kevin Cussick wrote:

Hi, that seems to be the way to go use a usb headset it seems to work.
 I have not tried this but have a podcast and the chap managed to get
it working.   disclaimer,   it may work or may not work for some try
at your own risk.   I am sure 32 bit will run OK even if it is
window's7 just take the stick out and put the next stick in with the
window's8.1 OS on it run setup.exe and listen to the prompts.  you
will need to download the drivers needed for your sound and so on but
within boot camp you do get this choice when installing. I am not 100%
sure about all the steps but I am going buy memory after listening to
the podcast I heard hope this might help you I plan to install
window's on 3 macs early in the new year let you know how I go.

On 25/12/2014 22:16, Grant Hardy wrote:

Hi Eileen,

I suspect you would find it very difficult to install Windows 8.1 by
reviewing each screen with the KNFB Reader, though I’ll be the first
to admit, I haven’t tried to do so myself.

However, when I initially installed Windows 8.1 on my Macbook Pro
with sighted help, I was told that the text was printed in extremely
small font and only occupied a small portion of the display. I assume
this is because of a lack of drivers that are present during
installation. The result was that even my sighted help found it
difficult to review the screen. So, I would bet you that an OCR
package would have trouble, too. Then there is the fact that you
would have to press a considerable amount of keystrokes without error
and without any audio feedback, which would be very disconcerting and
could lead to problems if something didn’t go as expected.

Which talking installer are you referring to? Is it from the Win8PE
project? If so, you should easily be able to build an installer for
64-BIT machines. The only trouble is that getting audio to work on a
Mac would be tricky as the drivers are not present. I’ve heard that
others have had success with connecting USB sound devices, so if you
have a USB headset or sound card around that uses generic Windows
drivers, that might be a possible option. But you might just want to
grab some sighted help if available, because while I know that isn’t
ideal, it will probably be the easiest solution.

Grant

On Dec 25, 2014, at 7:59 AM, Eileen Misrahi
 wrote:

Hello List,

I'm always trying to think how I can accomplish this task of
installing Win 8.1 through BootCamp without sighted assistance. I do
have KNFB Reader installed on my iPhone6, running 8.1. I know that
you can get KNFB Reader to read a monitor screen fairly successfully.
So, my question is: Has anyone been successful in getting Win 8.1 on
their MacBook Air or Pro using this method? I reviewed the Talking
Installer to accomplish this, but the utility is only for 32 bit
machines, which makes me OOL. Also, I would like to know if there are
any keyboard shortcuts that would activate a command for lets say the
option button to reformat the bootcamp drive on the Windows side?  I
am well-verse in the process of performing the set up on my MacBook
Air, so I don't need instructions on this. I do apologize if this is
slightly off topic, but it does use the Mac, with another iDevice.

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Re: Installing Win 8.1 Through BootCamp Assisted with the KNFB Reader?

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Hi,   that seems to be the way to go use a usb headset it seems to work. 
 I have not tried this but have a podcast and the chap managed to get 
it working.   disclaimer,   it may work or may not work for some try at 
your own risk.   I am sure 32 bit will run OK even if it is window's7 
just take the stick out and put the next stick in with the window's8.1 
OS on it run setup.exe and listen to the prompts.  you will need to 
download the drivers needed for your sound and so on but within boot 
camp you do get this choice when installing. I am not 100% sure about 
all the steps but I am going buy memory after listening to the podcast I 
heard hope this might help you I plan to install window's on 3 macs 
early in the new year let you know how I go.


On 25/12/2014 22:16, Grant Hardy wrote:

Hi Eileen,

I suspect you would find it very difficult to install Windows 8.1 by reviewing 
each screen with the KNFB Reader, though I’ll be the first to admit, I haven’t 
tried to do so myself.

However, when I initially installed Windows 8.1 on my Macbook Pro with sighted 
help, I was told that the text was printed in extremely small font and only 
occupied a small portion of the display. I assume this is because of a lack of 
drivers that are present during installation. The result was that even my 
sighted help found it difficult to review the screen. So, I would bet you that 
an OCR package would have trouble, too. Then there is the fact that you would 
have to press a considerable amount of keystrokes without error and without any 
audio feedback, which would be very disconcerting and could lead to problems if 
something didn’t go as expected.

Which talking installer are you referring to? Is it from the Win8PE project? If 
so, you should easily be able to build an installer for 64-BIT machines. The 
only trouble is that getting audio to work on a Mac would be tricky as the 
drivers are not present. I’ve heard that others have had success with 
connecting USB sound devices, so if you have a USB headset or sound card around 
that uses generic Windows drivers, that might be a possible option. But you 
might just want to grab some sighted help if available, because while I know 
that isn’t ideal, it will probably be the easiest solution.

Grant

On Dec 25, 2014, at 7:59 AM, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:

Hello List,

I'm always trying to think how I can accomplish this task of installing Win 8.1 
through BootCamp without sighted assistance. I do have KNFB Reader installed on 
my iPhone6, running 8.1. I know that you can get KNFB Reader to read a monitor 
screen fairly successfully. So, my question is: Has anyone been successful in 
getting Win 8.1 on their MacBook Air or Pro using this method? I reviewed the 
Talking Installer to accomplish this, but the utility is only for 32 bit 
machines, which makes me OOL. Also, I would like to know if there are any 
keyboard shortcuts that would activate a command for lets say the option button 
to reformat the bootcamp drive on the Windows side?  I am well-verse in the 
process of performing the set up on my MacBook Air, so I don't need 
instructions on this. I do apologize if this is slightly off topic, but it does 
use the Mac, with another iDevice.

Thanks in advance.

Kind regards,
Eileen



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Looking for some help with setting icloud up using thunderbird on window's.

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Hi,   I know it is for window's but can someone give me the settings for 
setting icloud e-mail up using thunderbird?   thanks in advance for any 
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Re: The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication

[Kevin Cussick]

Hello,   I think your OK but now you have me wondering as well Lol.

On 09/12/2014 21:31, David Griffith wrote:

I  hope that I am not having a false sense of security. As far as I know I have 
never set up a recovery key. I understood that this was only an issue for 
encrypted disc systems? I do not have any encryptions set up on any of my
  Mac iPad or  iPhone.
  Am I on a knife edge without realising it?

David Griffith


On 9 Dec 2014, at 21:22, Joseph  wrote:

Hello List,
The only thing i'd suggest regarding your recovery key is this. Don't store it 
on a computer device. Reason? What if the computer with the key on it crashes? 
I'd write it down somewhere or print it out and keep a copy of the key 
somewhere.
While I use 2 step verification, I see the recovery key as being a condition 
critical situation and treat it as such.



On Dec 9, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Ray Foret Jr mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Mark, many thanks for this very concerning article. I have already saved it on 
my Mac. Very timely, and, as I think, a great service to us all. Again, thank 
you.

Sincerely,
The Constantly barefooted Ray,

Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my iPhone,
the only smart phone with full accessibility for the blind built-in

On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:10 PM, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
wrote:


Hello Everyone,

I strongly suggest that you read the following article, very carefully.

The link to the original post may be found at the end of the text.

Mark

The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication

Earlier this week, a strange message popped up on my Mac that I thought
nothing of. "You can't sign in because your account was disabled for
security reasons." I dismissed it in my tired haze, thinking it would solve
itself and went to sleep.

The next morning, I didn't have time to deal with the message - which was
now popping up every half hour - for a few hours until it became annoying. I
figured I'd done something dumb and broken iCloud, but that it could wait.

I'd turned two-factor on my Apple ID in haste when I read Mat Honan's
harrowing story about how his Mac, iPhone and other devices were wiped when
someone broke into his iCloud account. That terrified me into thinking about
real security for the first time.

When I finally had time to investigate the errors appearing on my machine, I
discovered that not only had my iCloud account been locked, but someone had
tried to break in. Two-factor had done its job and kept the attacker out,
however, it had also inadvertently locked me out.

The Apple support page relating to lockouts assured me it would be easy to
recover my account with a combination of any two of either my password, a
trusted device or the two-factor recovery key.

When I headed to the account recovery service, dubbed iForgot, I discovered
that there was no way back in without my recovery key. That's when it hit
me; I had no idea where my recovery key was or if I'd ever even put the
piece of paper in a safe place. I've moved since I set up two-factor on
iCloud.

I began nervously scouring the entire house for the code, before giving up
after a few frustrating hours and began searching my computer for any trace
of it. I found countless "recovery keys" but they weren't for the right
things; for my Mac's hard-drive encryption, Twitter, Facebook and other
accounts, but not for my Apple ID.

How could I be foolish enough to misplace my Apple ID recovery key?
I swore that I'd taken a screenshot, printed it and had taken a photo of it
with my iPhone for extra safekeeping.

This is when it began to sink in that this single ID held the keys to much
of my digital life; everything from iTunes purchases going back seven years,
app purchases and even the ability to get my iPhone out of the grips of Find
my iPhone's lock.

The sinking feeling began. After fruitlessly searching and a lot of cussing,
I decided to call Apple. I figured that something must be wrong, since the
support page claims you can use trusted devices to recover your ID in cases
like this.

The first person I spoke to told me immediately after getting on the phone
that in no uncertain terms I had forfeit my Apple ID by losing the recovery
key. He refused to help me. I hung up and called back.

On the second call, I got a lovely woman who totally understood my plight
and how terrible it was. She told me a similar thing had happened to her,
and it had turned out OK. After 20 minutes of poking around and lots of
awkward sighing, she put me on hold to talk to a senior manager.

When she got back on the line, the story was just as bleak. "We take your
security very seriously at Apple" she told me "but at this time we cannot
grant you access back into your Apple account. We recommend you create a new
Apple ID."

I couldn't believe what I was hearing and fought back that surely there was
some other way, but I was told point blank that Apple would not help me. I
offered a scan of my go

Re: my experience with apple's technical support service.

[Kevin Cussick]

Hello, I wonder if you are in the states question I am in Scotland and wondered 
if this number work over here please let me know thank you



> On 3 Dec 2014, at 23:40, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
> Hi there 
> Did you call the accessibility number, 877-204-3930? Because if you called 
> the regular AppleCare number, you should have been transferred there. In 
> fact, I don’t let any customer service people get away with getting another 
> sighted person to get involved. I found that increases the call time. With 
> Apple, for instance, most of the time, unless it is something that can’t be 
> resolved over the phone, the advisors know basic VoiceOver commands pretty 
> well these days. This didn’t used to be the case, but it has been my 
> experience these days that those senior advisors that are assigned to the 
> accessibility line know at least the basics of VoiceOver commands. I have had 
> very good luck with the accessibility line, and I must admit having called it 
> many times during the past three years. 
> 
> Gigi 
> 
>> On Dec 3, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Kevin Cussick 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,   I found the same I got my e-mail problem fixed but it was 
>> complicated and I am a bit of a newly with vo.   the guy I got was very nice 
>> but hopeless with voice over I had to resort in getting my daughter to just 
>> sort it out it took 90 minutes to sort out he had to delete some system 
>> files to do with email and reinstall the email program it fixed it I have 
>> asked for an explanation of how it was fixed.  my daughter couldn’t really 
>> remember I had to go out so I wasn’t even there anyway it is fixed now.
>>> On 3 Dec 2014, at 16:40, adrian  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I had a great first time experience with apples technical support 
>>> yesterday.They were really paycient with me when i had to reinstall my 
>>> entire operating system.In order to get about this mac back to normal. 
>>> Apple support rocks.I found there service great and there technicians were 
>>> very knowlageable about voice over
>>> 
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Re: my experience with apple's technical support service.

[Kevin Cussick]

Hello,   I found the same I got my e-mail problem fixed but it was complicated 
and I am a bit of a newly with vo.   the guy I got was very nice but hopeless 
with voice over I had to resort in getting my daughter to just sort it out it 
took 90 minutes to sort out he had to delete some system files to do with email 
and reinstall the email program it fixed it I have asked for an explanation of 
how it was fixed.  my daughter couldn’t really remember I had to go out so I 
wasn’t even there anyway it is fixed now.
> On 3 Dec 2014, at 16:40, adrian  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I had a great first time experience with apples technical support 
> yesterday.They were really paycient with me when i had to reinstall my entire 
> operating system.In order to get about this mac back to normal. Apple support 
> rocks.I found there service great and there technicians were very 
> knowlageable about voice over
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Re: Very near to giving up with my mac mini.

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Hi,   OK kevin.cuss...@gmail.com should reach me.  and mm0tmg will get me on 
Skype doing this from the mac mini at the moment.   but I have to keep 
switching vo on and off then when I switch vo back on again the mail program 
seems to work for a bit.  really sick of this just now I know I will get it 
fixe but at this time feel a bit sorry I decided to invest into the whole apple 
thing. I think we forget the problems we maybe had at the start on window’s 
thanks for any help given.
> On 29 Nov 2014, at 22:30, Kliph&Sharrie Miller  
> wrote:
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> Maybe you should try a clean install?  It's pretty easy to do  I will send 
> you a private message and we can chat on skype or iMessage.
> 
> Sent from my MobileOffice
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>> On Nov 29, 2014, at 5:18 PM, Kevin Cussick 
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I hope I have deleted the text below my post and put a new subject in, OK I 
>> have a problem with mail since upgrading over the top of mavericks,   anyway 
>> the mail program just keeps saying busy I am so fed up of it now!   I have 
>> done a disk permissions repair,   this did seem to help for a day or so but 
>> it's back to just saying busy all the time!  I really can't take much more 
>> of it! I am new the the mac but I am now back on window's I have no such 
>> problems with my mail on window's please help with thanks.
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Very near to giving up with my mac mini.

[Kevin Cussick]

Hi all,

I hope I have deleted the text below my post and put a new subject in, 
OK I have a problem with mail since upgrading over the top of mavericks, 
  anyway the mail program just keeps saying busy I am so fed up of it 
now!   I have done a disk permissions repair,   this did seem to help 
for a day or so but it's back to just saying busy all the time!  I 
really can't take much more of it! I am new the the mac but I am now 
back on window's I have no such problems with my mail on window's please 
help with thanks.


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Re: uninstalling sound flower

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Hello,  just wondering what is this software sound flower? thanks in advance.
> On 20 Nov 2014, at 22:27, Annie Skov Nielsen  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> 
> I can not get it to work. The uninstaller I found will only work on power pc, 
> and mine is newer. Can anyone point me to the wright uninstaller.
> 
> Best regards Annie.
>> Den 18/11/2014 kl. 18.52 skrev Andrew Lamanche :
>> 
>> I’m delighted it worked.  I remember years ago, on my very first mac, I had 
>> a similar problem.  That’s why I went looking on the web.
>> 
>> Good luck with everything.
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 18 Nov 2014, at 16:46, Faisal ali  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Andrew,
>>> I was thinking that as well and restarted my machine. It seems to be 
>>> removed. 
>>> Thanks for your assistance.
 On Nov 18, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
 
 Having searched on the web for this on your behalf, I see that you have 
 reboot your computer after running the script.  This seems to be a must.
 
 Andrew
> On 18 Nov 2014, at 16:04, Faisal ali  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I tried that and ran it but it still shows up in my list of input and 
> output. What am I doing wrong?
>> On Nov 18, 2014, at 3:46 AM, Dionipher Herrera  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> after you open that one interact on the menus then activate it i can’t 
>> remember the exact word but i think it said run. 
>>> Il giorno 17/nov/2014, alle ore 19:36, Faisal ali 
>>>  ha scritto:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I found the installer and see the uninstall script. However, when I 
>>> click on it, it opens in apple script editor. How do I actually run it?
>>> Thanks
>>> On Nov 17, 2014, at 10:31 AM, David Taylor  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Then I would search for uninstall.scpt in Spotlight, and if you can’t 
 find it there, download Sound Flower again, and run the uninstall 
 script from there.
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
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> Unfortunately, I don’t see a sound flower folder in applications. 
> On Nov 16, 2014, at 11:22 PM, David Taylor 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> In your Apps folder, there should be a Sound Flower folder, in which 
>> is an uninstall script. Simply open this and follow the prompts.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Dave
>> 
>> On 17 Nov 2014, at 05:32 am, Faisal ali  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> As the subject line states, I’m wanting to remove sound flower from 
>>> my system. Any ideas on how to do this?
>>> Thanks
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Re: uninstalling sound flower

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Hello,   what is this sound flower? thanks in advance.
> On 17 Nov 2014, at 15:41, Dionipher Herrera  wrote:
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> search for the folder that you downloaded from sound flower, then there’s a 
> file that said uninstall
>> Il giorno 17/nov/2014, alle ore 08:35, Faisal ali  
>> ha scritto:
>> 
>> Unfortunately, I don’t see a sound flower folder in applications. 
>> On Nov 16, 2014, at 11:22 PM, David Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> In your Apps folder, there should be a Sound Flower folder, in which is an 
>>> uninstall script. Simply open this and follow the prompts.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> On 17 Nov 2014, at 05:32 am, Faisal ali  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 As the subject line states, I’m wanting to remove sound flower from my 
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Re: Problems since installing Yosemite

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Hi,   I get this as well mostly with mail!  any fix most welcome using mac mini 
4 gb of ram if this helps.
> On 23 Oct 2014, at 16:18, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
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> I am having problems with applications going busy upon opening them. This is 
> not true for iTunes or finder, but anything else I open is immediately busy. 
> Has anyone else had problems with this, and is there a resolution?
> 
> Kristeen Hughes
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Re: mail in 10.10

[Kevin Cussick]

Hi,   I got the same in mavericks
I don’t know why this is but I hit OK and just connect I think you can tell 
mail the server is trusted anyway I have had this as well and I have had it 
since updating as well. I am a new to mac so don’t have any helpful tips. sorry.
> On 20 Oct 2014, at 21:02, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm seeing this, too.  And I agree, it's kind of annoying, but not a huge 
> deal.  Would be nice if there were a way to make it stop, though.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> One thing thats strange is that it asks me to control or check my certificat 
>> for my smtp.
>> I just press ok or connect but why doesn’t  this happen in mavericks.
>> /A 
>>> 20 okt 2014 kl. 08:50 skrev christopher hallsworth 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Hi all
>>> I am seeing some improvements in Mail under Yosemite especially when 
>>> setting up accounts. I couldn't get a manually configured one to work 
>>> properly under Mavericks at least when sending messages from that account; 
>>> this appears to have been resolved in Yosemite. Ok it asked me for the 
>>> password but after that the message was sent immediately. Early days but 
>>> looks promising.
 On 20 Oct 2014, at 07:44, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 Hello Devin,
 
 While there are some definite changes as to the nuances of Apple Mail, 
 none of it's functionality, as I perceive it, has been lost in Yosemite.  
 
 Conversely, if you didn't like Mail in Maverick, then you probably won't 
 like it in Yosemite, either.
 
 In my opinion, Mail is one of the most powerful applications in OS X and 
 it continues to be my preferred mail client.
 
 Mark 
 
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 Subject: mail in 10.10
 
 Is mail any more usable in 10.10? Or will I have to keep using iOS and 
 thunderbird for that? 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
> On Oct 18, 2014, at 5:16 PM, Anders Holmberg  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I have a small lagg i think.
> Its a bit slow yes.
> Though the Yosemite update is not as disappointing as the ios 8 was.
> Not yet.
> /A
>> 18 okt 2014 kl. 04:28 skrev Dionipher Herrera :
>> 
>> yes me too, and i hate it.
>>> On 18 Oct 2014, at 01:32, Faisal  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> so I took the plunge and installed Yosemite. I’m noticing a definite 
>>> lag with voice over. Is anyone else noticing this as well?
>>> I’m using Alex
>>> Thanks
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Re: iOS 8.1

[Kevin Cussick]

Hi,   I have downloaded it and have not played much but don't see anything 
different yet I have put it on My I pad I will let you know if anything jumps 
out at me.
> On 20 Oct 2014, at 20:28, Gabriele Battaglia  
> wrote:
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> Hi, I can't upgrade from here because I'm out of home, without a solid 
> connection.
> I would like to read some comments from you guys, about this new 8.1. I saw 
> that it is about 127 MB for iPhone 6Plus.
> 
> By and happy download.
> Gabriel.
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Re: Airdrop.

[Kevin Cussick]

Hello,   I am sory to say I am not sure what air drop is what is it?   and what 
does it do? thanks in advance for your answers.
> On 20 Oct 2014, at 20:10, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
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> Hi,
> How old is your mac? Mine is a mid 2011 IMac and it doesn’t work there, 
> however on my 2012 Macbook air, it works. I don’t know if it should be that 
> way but there you have it. If there’s a setting somewhere i don’t know about 
> then i really want to know how to set this.
> /Krister
> 
>> 20 okt 2014 kl. 20:43 skrev Anders Holmberg :
>> 
>> Hi!
>> From what i understand airdrop is going to work between mac and i devices.
>> But i can’t make it work.
>> ANy thoughts on this.
>> /A 
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Re: The letter to Accessibility: was voice commands on yosemite

[Kevin Cussick]

Hi,   the same here,   the only thing I am now finding using the mail program 
is I used to be able to press vo and j read the message hit delete and get the 
subject read then do the same again.   I now have to interact and uninteract 
each time I hit vo j to read the text any ideas? but over all it seems to work 
I use the Scottish Fiona voice as I am Scottish just wish there was a male 
voice.
> On 19 Oct 2014, at 21:49, ROBERT CARTER  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Cheryl,
> 
> Your points are excellent. I couldn’t agree more.
> 
> I for one, am using Yosemite and VoiceOver very successfully.
> 
> Robert Carter
>> On Oct 19, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Cheryl Homiak > > wrote:
>> 
>> While I would always support people freely expressing their opinions, I see 
>> some problems with the content of this letter. Because you have submitted 
>> this to this email list, while I will never write anything insulting or 
>> derogatory of anybody here, I do think it is appropriate to express my 
>> concerns about what was written in the same place where you have posted your 
>> opinions. This is by no means a personal critique, confrontation, or in any 
>> way flaming. I do not know the writer and would write the same things if my 
>> best friend had written this.
>> 
>> First of all, unless you participated in the developer beta or the public 
>> beta, this seems to me to be a little hasty. The OS has been out only since 
>> Thursday afternoon so you haven’t had much time to work with it or get help 
>> from others. Of course bugs and problems should be pointed out immediately, 
>> but it would seem to me that one should work with a new system for a while 
>> before coming to the conclusions you have come to in your email to 
>> Accessibility. As I recall, you were expressing these views very soon after 
>> the upgrade was released. Even if you did participate in one of the betas, I 
>> would think that you would hold off on such a strong negative response since 
>> you can see from the list traffic that some people - blind and visually 
>> impaired people -  are adapting to the new OS and even enjoying it.
>> 
>> Secondly, what has been written  doesn’t appear to be wholly factual and 
>> accurate to me. Yes, the sidebar in iTunes is gone but some people are  
>> finding their music just fine. You don’t like the change; maybe there are 
>> changes I don’t like. But “it isn’t accessible” and “I don’t like it” or “I 
>> can’t figure this out”   are not synonymous. There have been several posts 
>> where people explained how to work with iTunes without the sidebar and while 
>> some of this specifically talked about Windows, this is also true on the 
>> Mac. The same can be said for spotlight. I am not saying there might not be 
>> any limitations or problems but I am searching and finding, within my own 
>> computer and outside. Just went to Wikipedia to read about Christopher 
>> Columbus for instance. Even the subject line isn’t really descriptive of 
>> what is being written. “Voice commands” does not immediately make me think 
>> of voiceover or access for blind people in particular.
>> 
>> Thirdly, the explanations given do not contain concrete replicable details. 
>> You don’t mention what various methods you have tried to employ to find your 
>> music in iTunes or to search with spotlight in light of the changes and then 
>> described what happens when you try these strategies. There is nothing here 
>> for anybody in accessibility to really take hold of and run with except for 
>> your citation of the website with the list of bugs.
>> 
>> Fourthly, you bring up trust. I would leave the issue of trust to my 
>> relationships with close friends and God; I do not trust companies, nor do I 
>> distrust them. I evaluate what they are doing related to what I need and use 
>> or don’t use the services and products accordingly.
>> 
>> Fifthly, the lack of substantial facts and replicable description is 
>> accompanied by a great amount of angry accusation and emotionally-based 
>> claims that cannot be proven. How do any of us know what those who developed 
>> this OS were thinking? How do you know we all got slapped in the face? You 
>> certainly are not reflecting my view when you write this though certainly 
>> there are probably others who would agree with you. I understand that you 
>> feel that the input of those blind people who participated in betas, which 
>> were both developer and public betas, was not valued on the same level as 
>> reports of other testers about issues other than voiceover, but even if it 
>> could be concretely proven that that is actually true, it is my experience 
>> that if people will not listen to careful and thorough critiques you will 
>> not win their willing attention and cooperation by angry denunciations 
>> either. It works as a vent and all of us have done that at times and I would 
>> have no right to say it should never be done, but I’m not so sure it works 
>> to

Re: elementary question

[Kevin Cussick]

Hi,   OK thanks will try again but it didn't work for me but will try again.   
I feel a bit daft asking questions but I suppose it's the only way you learn. 
thanks for any more help I might need in advance Lol.
On 18 Oct 2014, at 14:07, Alex Hall  wrote:

> There's no confirmation, the item is added immediately. To remove it, find it 
> in the Dock and press control-option-shift-m, then find the Options submenu. 
> open that with the right arrow, then press enter on the (checked) option to 
> "keep in Dock". This will uncheck it and the item should be removed.
>> On Oct 18, 2014, at 7:07 AM, Kevin Cussick 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,   OK I can see add to doc but how to confirm the action thanks in 
>> advance very new still to the mac.
>> On 17 Oct 2014, at 22:42, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there 
>>> Thanks it worked. The manual does not add in the control key. 
>>> 
>>> Gigi 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 17, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> If I remember right, it is cmd-shift-control-t.
>>>>> On Oct 17, 2014, at 5:33 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi guys 
>>>>> I guess I should know this, but I haven't done it for a while. I have an 
>>>>> app which I want to add to the dock. The VoiceOver manual apparently has 
>>>>> an incorrect command because it doesn't work. This is the manual for 
>>>>> Mavericks I'm talking about. What is the right command for adding an app 
>>>>> to the dock? I have been using Spotlight forever, but I haven't figured 
>>>>> out it for Yosemite yet. It doesn't do what I thought it should. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for help. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gigi 
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Re: elementary question

[Kevin Cussick]

Hi,   OK I can see add to doc but how to confirm the action thanks in advance 
very new still to the mac.
On 17 Oct 2014, at 22:42, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi there 
> Thanks it worked. The manual does not add in the control key. 
> 
> Gigi 
> 
>> On Oct 17, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> If I remember right, it is cmd-shift-control-t.
>>> On Oct 17, 2014, at 5:33 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi guys 
>>> I guess I should know this, but I haven't done it for a while. I have an 
>>> app which I want to add to the dock. The VoiceOver manual apparently has an 
>>> incorrect command because it doesn't work. This is the manual for Mavericks 
>>> I'm talking about. What is the right command for adding an app to the dock? 
>>> I have been using Spotlight forever, but I haven't figured out it for 
>>> Yosemite yet. It doesn't do what I thought it should. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for help. 
>>> 
>>> Gigi 
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Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

[Kevin Cussick]

Hi,   if you send it to kevin.cuss...@gmail.com I would be very grateful. 
thanks in advance.
On 16 Oct 2014, at 20:57, John Panarese  wrote:

>  Actually, there is.  I've been using an adaptor since 2011 successfully.  I 
> can send the info to anyone who wants it.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
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> 
> On Oct 16, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Rich Ring  wrote:
> 
>> But, sadly, you still need a monitor, and don't tell me there's an adapter 
>> you can buy that will solve the problem, back in 2009 I purchased 3 
>> different adapters that were supposed to solve the monitor problem, none of 
>> them worked.
>> 
>> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
>> Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
>> richr...@gmail.com
>> 
>> On Oct 16, 2014, at 2:18 PM, Christopher Hallsworth 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> I have no plans to upgrade the mini but as a loyal customer the 
>>> presentation looked good. So happy to see the new Mac Mini come down in 
>>> price as well starting at just $499, causing potentially more new customers 
>>> to join the ecosystem.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my laptop
>>> 
>>> On 16/10/2014 20:12, Sandi Jazmin Kruse wrote:
 I am not agreeing there, i got my next Mini.
 
 On 10/16/14, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Did anybody else here get the impression that the Apple presentation 
> seemed
> to offer nothing that we would care about?
> 
> Not even speks.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
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Re: Alex voice

[Kevin Cussick]

Hello,   sorry to jump in here.   I have the iPod touch fithd gen iPod touch.   
no matter what I do I don't see any option for getting the alex voice.   I am 
sure I read when I looked about the update you should be able to get that voice 
on the I pod touch.   can anyone confirm? thanks in advance.
On 17 Sep 2014, at 22:14, Buddy Brannan  wrote:

> There are a couple.
> 
> First, no 5S, no Alex.
> 
> Second, you have to download it. Go into settings / general / accessibility / 
> speech / voices and select it to download. Bear in mind, it's 869MB so will 
> take a while.
> 
> Next, you'd probably have to switch your default voice to be Alex in 
> Voiceover. Even if it says default is Alex, it will still talk with 
> Samantha's voice. If memory serves, a reboot of your phone should set that 
> right. 
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>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 5:08 PM, Jed Barton  wrote:
>> 
>> wondering the same thing
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/17/2014 5:07 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote:
>>> Is there some sort of secret to turning on Alex voice?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: ulternitive app for managing ipod touch instead of itunes? please help!! kind regards trey.

[Kevin Cussick]

I think most of might be,   if this is OK with the mods maybe you could 
post the drop box url on this list I have a pro account so i could host 
it if you want.


On 29/08/2014 02:44, Joseph wrote:

Hello,
I'd be quite interested in the app.
TIA.
ablindvou...@icloud.com

On Aug 28, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:


Hi. there is a great app that I just discovered called Itools, no more syncing 
your phone with iTunes.
If you want, I can give you a dropbox link with the DMG, as it was hard for me 
to find a translated version of the website.
Matt Dierckens
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670 ext. 3
Work email:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
Personal email: matt.dierck...@gmail.com

On Aug 28, 2014, at 20:57, trahern culver  wrote:


hey all, i have the latest 64gb ipod touch with the latest o s i'm running 
mavrix on the mac side. i know how itunes works but i'm at my wits end with 
itunes when it comes to ipod management. so is there an accessable program  for 
mac  os10 that i can use to manage  my ipod touch?? your help with this 
question would be most welcome kind regards trey.

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Re: Smart Mailboxes

[Kevin Cussick]

thanks for asking didn't want to fear of being ridiculed Lol.

On 22/08/2014 11:52, Kliphton Senior wrote:

What is the difference between a smart mailbox and just a normal one?
Kliphton

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On Aug 22, 2014, at 2:25 AM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:

Hi,

since Mavericks I experience a lot of trouble using smart mailboxes. From time 
to time they loose the rules I set. I use the same smart mailboxes on several 
Macs and so it could also be an issue caused by this.

Does anyone of you experience similar issues with smart mailboxes?

Thanks and
all the best
Jürgen

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Re: Need help! Very frustrated with mail on the Mac!

[Kevin Cussick]

But on the plus side I have had the most feedback on this list about 
this problem.


On 18/08/2014 15:07, Jose Lomeli wrote:

I have to go to the Apple store today!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 18, 2014, at 1:47 AM, Kevin Cussick 
 wrote:

Hi,   and does it now work? thanks for any help you maybe able to give.


On 17/08/2014 21:34, Jose Lomeli wrote:
Well I called Apple and I had to do a clean install!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 17, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Kevin Cussick 
 wrote:

thanks,   I have not tried this will try another day I have loads to do but 
good suggestion thanks.


On 17/08/2014 20:39, David Griffith wrote:
This was a well  known issue with the early releases of Mavericks but I
believed that this had been fixed by Apple in a subsequent update to the
OS. Certainly I am having absolutely no issues with G mail in my latest
version of Mavericks.
Could I ask both of you whether you have gone to the Apple Menu and
selected check for software updates to see if you are both running the
latest version of Mavericks available?

If you are running the latest version of Mavericks and this has still
not sorted the problem then for whatever reason the patch Apple issued
has not taken affect on your systems.
  If this is the case then the easiest way to resolve this may be a
re-install or a clean install.
The good news is that on the Mac this is a much easier and simpler
exercise to complete than on Windows but check for whether you have the
latest updates first.


David Griffith





On 17-08/2014 20:21, Kevin Cussick wrote:
I am having the same problem,   sorry no help to you but just letting
you your not the only one it is gmail at the moment but I have a
blueyonder account not set it up yet.  I have had no help thus far.

On 15/08/2014 19:46, Jose
wrote:

Hello; Listers, I need help! I called Apple because I am having
issues with Mail on my Mac! For some odd reason I am not getting
emails on my Mac! We tried everything and no go! It seems like my
emails are going to the Archive folder! I am getting email on my
iPhone it's just my Mac that is having issues! Please help!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone


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Re: Need help! Very frustrated with mail on the Mac!

[Kevin Cussick]

Let me know on or off list how you go please and if there was a fix let 
me know how Lol thanks very much.  i am sure I will get it in the end 
but I am a bit discouraged as the mack book pro is the only device I 
have any problems with.


On 18/08/2014 15:07, Jose Lomeli wrote:

I have to go to the Apple store today!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 18, 2014, at 1:47 AM, Kevin Cussick 
 wrote:

Hi,   and does it now work? thanks for any help you maybe able to give.


On 17/08/2014 21:34, Jose Lomeli wrote:
Well I called Apple and I had to do a clean install!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 17, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Kevin Cussick 
 wrote:

thanks,   I have not tried this will try another day I have loads to do but 
good suggestion thanks.


On 17/08/2014 20:39, David Griffith wrote:
This was a well  known issue with the early releases of Mavericks but I
believed that this had been fixed by Apple in a subsequent update to the
OS. Certainly I am having absolutely no issues with G mail in my latest
version of Mavericks.
Could I ask both of you whether you have gone to the Apple Menu and
selected check for software updates to see if you are both running the
latest version of Mavericks available?

If you are running the latest version of Mavericks and this has still
not sorted the problem then for whatever reason the patch Apple issued
has not taken affect on your systems.
  If this is the case then the easiest way to resolve this may be a
re-install or a clean install.
The good news is that on the Mac this is a much easier and simpler
exercise to complete than on Windows but check for whether you have the
latest updates first.


David Griffith





On 17-08/2014 20:21, Kevin Cussick wrote:
I am having the same problem,   sorry no help to you but just letting
you your not the only one it is gmail at the moment but I have a
blueyonder account not set it up yet.  I have had no help thus far.

On 15/08/2014 19:46, Jose
wrote:

Hello; Listers, I need help! I called Apple because I am having
issues with Mail on my Mac! For some odd reason I am not getting
emails on my Mac! We tried everything and no go! It seems like my
emails are going to the Archive folder! I am getting email on my
iPhone it's just my Mac that is having issues! Please help!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone


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Re: Need help! Very frustrated with mail on the Mac!

[Kevin Cussick]

Hi,   and does it now work? thanks for any help you maybe able to give.

On 17/08/2014 21:34, Jose Lomeli wrote:

Well I called Apple and I had to do a clean install!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 17, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Kevin Cussick 
 wrote:

thanks,   I have not tried this will try another day I have loads to do but 
good suggestion thanks.


On 17/08/2014 20:39, David Griffith wrote:
This was a well  known issue with the early releases of Mavericks but I
believed that this had been fixed by Apple in a subsequent update to the
OS. Certainly I am having absolutely no issues with G mail in my latest
version of Mavericks.
Could I ask both of you whether you have gone to the Apple Menu and
selected check for software updates to see if you are both running the
latest version of Mavericks available?

If you are running the latest version of Mavericks and this has still
not sorted the problem then for whatever reason the patch Apple issued
has not taken affect on your systems.
  If this is the case then the easiest way to resolve this may be a
re-install or a clean install.
The good news is that on the Mac this is a much easier and simpler
exercise to complete than on Windows but check for whether you have the
latest updates first.


David Griffith





On 17-08/2014 20:21, Kevin Cussick wrote:
I am having the same problem,   sorry no help to you but just letting
you your not the only one it is gmail at the moment but I have a
blueyonder account not set it up yet.  I have had no help thus far.

On 15/08/2014 19:46, Jose
wrote:

Hello; Listers, I need help! I called Apple because I am having
issues with Mail on my Mac! For some odd reason I am not getting
emails on my Mac! We tried everything and no go! It seems like my
emails are going to the Archive folder! I am getting email on my
iPhone it's just my Mac that is having issues! Please help!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone


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Re: Need help! Very frustrated with mail on the Mac!

[Kevin Cussick]

thanks,   I have not tried this will try another day I have loads to do 
but good suggestion thanks.


On 17/08/2014 20:39, David Griffith wrote:

This was a well  known issue with the early releases of Mavericks but I
believed that this had been fixed by Apple in a subsequent update to the
OS. Certainly I am having absolutely no issues with G mail in my latest
version of Mavericks.
Could I ask both of you whether you have gone to the Apple Menu and
selected check for software updates to see if you are both running the
latest version of Mavericks available?

If you are running the latest version of Mavericks and this has still
not sorted the problem then for whatever reason the patch Apple issued
has not taken affect on your systems.
  If this is the case then the easiest way to resolve this may be a
re-install or a clean install.
The good news is that on the Mac this is a much easier and simpler
exercise to complete than on Windows but check for whether you have the
latest updates first.


David Griffith




On 17-08/2014 20:21, Kevin Cussick wrote:

I am having the same problem,   sorry no help to you but just letting
you your not the only one it is gmail at the moment but I have a
blueyonder account not set it up yet.  I have had no help thus far.

On 15/08/2014 19:46, Jose
 wrote:

Hello; Listers, I need help! I called Apple because I am having
issues with Mail on my Mac! For some odd reason I am not getting
emails on my Mac! We tried everything and no go! It seems like my
emails are going to the Archive folder! I am getting email on my
iPhone it's just my Mac that is having issues! Please help!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone







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Re: Need help! Very frustrated with mail on the Mac!

[Kevin Cussick]

I am having the same problem,   sorry no help to you but just letting 
you your not the only one it is gmail at the moment but I have a 
blueyonder account not set it up yet.  I have had no help thus far.


On 15/08/2014 19:46, Jose
 wrote:

Hello; Listers, I need help! I called Apple because I am having issues with 
Mail on my Mac! For some odd reason I am not getting emails on my Mac! We tried 
everything and no go! It seems like my emails are going to the Archive folder! 
I am getting email on my iPhone it's just my Mac that is having issues! Please 
help!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone



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Re: three operating system on mac

[Kevin Cussick]

good Chris it's nice to hear you saying something nice about window's Lol.

On 03/08/2014 20:53, Christopher Hallsworth wrote:

Ar man! I'm really liking Windows 8.1! Would definitely install it
either via Vmware or Bootcamp.

On 03/08/2014 19:32, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:

No idea, sorry.  I'm not going to look at Windows again until Windows
9.  Also, I think you'll probably find your life a bit easier if you
just bought stuff instead of cracking it. :)

Cheers,
Sabahattin





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