Re: unnecissary voices?

[Marie Howarth]

personally, I think they're fun and I use them for a variety of  
reasons. everyone's prefernce, and although I would never have bad  
luck read my writing or an article, apart from effect, they just make  
it what it is. :)

On Aug 25, 2009, at 3:16 PM, william lomas wrote:

>
>   hi all I know bad news, bells etc. are commical voices but aren't
> they a waste of space in the OS, really?
> Thoughts?
> Will
>
>
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Re: say it's not so apple

[Marie Howarth]

thank God! I really really hope you're right. otherwise apple's gone  
down in my estimations.

On Aug 24, 2009, at 10:28 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

>
> This is an option the user can select.  The page can be automatically
> read when loaded, but again, you can disable this behavior if you
> prefer not to have VOiceOver read the page for you automatically.
> you, but this is a user selectable option.  So, if you don't want to
> have the page read to you, then
>
> On Aug 24, 2009, at 4:28 PM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>
>>
>> one feature I just read they have in snow leopard is voice over will
>> now read the whole website to you. I cannot say I'm happy about this,
>> the one thing about VO I love is it does what I want it too not what
>> it thinks I want it too. ugh. apple why listen to them?
>> sorry, but what do others think?
>>
>>
>>>
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soft phones on the mac

[Marie Howarth]

anyone know of any soft phones that work on the mac with voice over. I  
use local phone and they rock and they have a windows and mac  
softphone, sadly the mac doesn't work, lots of unknowns. any ideas  
would be great. tried x light. setting up is fine, working no go though.


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Re: Installing the new cat

[Marie Howarth]

thanks for that scott. stupid question maybe, but I'm guessing you put  
the disc in then shut down then turn on with the disc in the drive,  
while holding down the c key yes? how much room we talking, I got over  
a hundred gig here as my music stuff is on an external.
:) thanks for any answers.

On Aug 24, 2009, at 9:41 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:

>
> Hey Marie,
>
> Well I guess not many people can say for sure right now what the
> instalation process will be like in detail, seeing as the only people
> who will have seen it firsthand so far are beta testers and people who
> grabbed it off torrent sites, and neither will talk about it
> publically in case Steve Jobs and his heavies turn up at their house
> with a big stick.
>
> But having said that, it's safe to predict that VO will work during
> the instalation, and that it'll be easy to do.
> With Tiger and Leopard, the install was as simple as putting in your
> OS dvd, booting up with the c key held down, waiting a few minutes
> until the disc spins down so you know that everything has finished
> loading from it, and launching VO with f/n-command-f5 on a laptop or
> just command-f5 on a full keyboard.  You land in the language
> selection table, which is set to some variety of English by default,
> and from then on it's a pretty standard instalation wizard.  There are
> usually a few different choices, you can repartition and format and
> suchlike.  Archive and install is probably the safest choice if you've
> got the disc space for that, it'll preserve a copy of your leopard
> system libraries and such just in case the upgrade goes horribly
> wrong.  VO stays functional throughout the upgrade process, you can
> get feedback at any point, and I've never yet encountered an error
> that it won't read during the process.
>
> Past that, the only reassurance I can give you is that, having seen
> your posts on list about other apps, you'll be fine with this.  It's a
> peace of cake as they say.
>
> hth
> Scott
>
> On 8/24/09, Marie Howarth  wrote:
>>
>> I was wondering, as I'm sure everyone's either preordered or is going
>> to pre-order the next big cat, how easy it will be to install with no
>> sighted assistance. would someone maybe be so kind to possibly  
>> write a
>> guide. I want to be able to do this but I'm a little apprhensive.
>> obviously never installed an OS before. a little daunting to say the
>> least.
>> :)
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>
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Re: say it's not so apple

[Marie Howarth]

OK, here's an exerpt from apple's accessibility page with snow leopard.

"VoiceOver will begin reading an entire web page automatically"

http://www.apple.com/uk/macosx/accessibility/
On Aug 24, 2009, at 9:35 PM, Dan wrote:

>
> Hello,
> From what I've read, you will be able to select the different
> components of a site to read or scrol through.
> On Aug 24, 2009, at 1:28 PM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>
>>
>> one feature I just read they have in snow leopard is voice over will
>> now read the whole website to you. I cannot say I'm happy about this,
>> the one thing about VO I love is it does what I want it too not what
>> it thinks I want it too. ugh. apple why listen to them?
>> sorry, but what do others think?
>>
>>
>>>
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say it's not so apple

[Marie Howarth]

one feature I just read they have in snow leopard is voice over will  
now read the whole website to you. I cannot say I'm happy about this,  
the one thing about VO I love is it does what I want it too not what  
it thinks I want it too. ugh. apple why listen to them?
sorry, but what do others think?


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Installing the new cat

[Marie Howarth]

I was wondering, as I'm sure everyone's either preordered or is going  
to pre-order the next big cat, how easy it will be to install with no  
sighted assistance. would someone maybe be so kind to possibly write a  
guide. I want to be able to do this but I'm a little apprhensive.  
obviously never installed an OS before. a little daunting to say the  
least.
:)


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Re: probably dumb itunes question

[Marie Howarth]

drm is extinct, I believe Donna

On Aug 24, 2009, at 8:50 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> When browsing in the ITunes store, How can one tell whether a track is
> ITunes Plus or not?  I don't want to purchase anything with DRM.
>
> Thanks,
> Donna
>
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Re: Audio Hijack Pro

[Marie Howarth]

thanks Anna,
is there any way of not hearing the microphone high jacking though  
during recording, the feedback of half a second echo drives me crazy :)

On Aug 23, 2009, at 5:21 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

>
> Hi Marie,
>
> If you want to record from only one input, such as a Skype call, a
> program off the Web or input from the microphone or LIne In, just
> hijack what you want to record from, and VoiceOver won't be recorded.
> If you want to record multiple inputs, such as microphone and line in
> simultaneously, you have to hijack System Audio, start recording, then
> hijack the other inputs you want. You will get VoiceOver in that case;
> if you don't want it, turn VoiceOVer off.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
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Re: Media players on Mac OS X

[Marie Howarth]

flip for mac is free. works great.

On Aug 23, 2009, at 4:01 PM, Daniel Crone wrote:

>
> I was going to get flip 4 mac.  But I did not, because I was sent to a
> microsoft web site.
> Is flip a m s product?
> Is there a cost?
> On Aug 23, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>
>>
>> Yes, vlc is great, I use that along with itunes, and some times quick
>> time, between those 3 programs, all of the major formats are  
>> covered I
>> think.
>> On Aug 22, 2009, at 1:29 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>
>>> I didn't know there was a Winamp available for the Mac, does anyone
>>> have an url? Is it as good as Winamp for the PC? I have to admit
>>> that I think VLC to be one of the best media players around.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22/08/2009, at 7:29 PM, James & Nash wrote:
>>>

 Hi folks,

 I'm quite a big fan of using VLC to play my media files. However,
 when using
 Winamp, it's very easy to find how at waht point in the track I am.
 This
 also works in VLC, but is there a way to change it from displaying
 in
 seconds to minutes please?

 Thanks

 james




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Re: i player downloader

[Marie Howarth]

is this feature working now? I tried to download the programmes with i  
player and it simply saved it as an html. don't think you've ever been  
able to see the audio described shows in i player though.

On Aug 23, 2009, at 10:45 AM, william lomas wrote:

>
>   for those needing the i player to work on amc, you can download the
> programs to work in quick time
> However, I don't think you can get the audio described programs
> Will
>
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Re: Audio Hijack Pro: just had an interesting idea

[Marie Howarth]

please let us know how that goes. :)

On Aug 22, 2009, at 9:37 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

> Okay, we've been discussing Audio Hijack Pro and how inaccessible  
> the "Effects" tab is? Well there may be another way around this.
>
> I regularly use the Scripting function of Audio Hijack Pro, you can  
> set the software to run a Workflow automator script so given that?  
> Well I can't see why one couldn't be written to apply an effect or  
> effects to a file after the recording or whenever? I'll look into  
> that.
>
> Thanks for the discussion .
>
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Re: Audio Hijack Pro

[Marie Howarth]

O no, audio high jack works great and if the effects tab was  
accessible, I'd stick to it like glue.
but I'm guessing I can audio high jack amadeus with the effects and  
such?

On Aug 22, 2009, at 9:00 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

>
> Yep you can but don't throw Audio Hijack Pro away just like that, as I
> said in a previous message Audio Hijack Pro and Amadeus Pro can be set
> to work together seamlessly.
>
>
>
> Marie Howarth wrote:
>> looks like I may just have to take the plunge and get amadeus then
>> lol. I know I emailed the developers and they just said they'd pass  
>> it
>> along lol. can you trial amadeus?
>>
>> On Aug 22, 2009, at 8:52 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I wish I could say you were wrong  and the worst thing is  
>>> that
>>> the developers couldn't give a damn it seems but not to worry, you  
>>> can
>>> use a good editor like Amaedus Pro to fix that problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Marie Howarth wrote:
>>>
>>>> I love audio high jack, have you at all managed to in whatever way
>>>> select more than one effect. I know others have said this is
>>>> impossible with VO, any tricks from your end here?
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 22, 2009, at 7:44 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Okay, I've changed the subject line here from Audio Editors to  
>>>>> Audio
>>>>> Hijack Pro as Audio Hijack Pro is not an audio editor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Like just about every Mac programme I use here, you don't need to
>>>>> win
>>>>> the lottery to buy Audio Hijack Pro, I bought it in a bundle with
>>>>> Fission quite some time ago, think it was $48.00 for both
>>>>> applications.
>>>>>
>>>>> The interface of Audio Hijack Pro is really very straight forward
>>>>> and
>>>>> I'll summarise it here, When the programme is launched, the first
>>>>> thing which has keyboard focus is the "Component And Sessions  
>>>>> List"
>>>>> table, this is where you select the component or session you  
>>>>> wish to
>>>>> hijack or record from, to the left of this table is a toolbar  
>>>>> which
>>>>> has buttons on it like record, pause, split to new file, Hijack,
>>>>> Mute
>>>>> and so on - many of these buttons have keyboard shortcuts  
>>>>> associated
>>>>> with them.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is displayed on the screen to the right of this table depends
>>>>> on
>>>>> the session selected, if you have the "Recording Bin" selected -
>>>>> that's where new recordings go - then options pertaining to the  
>>>>> bin
>>>>> such as "Edit" and "Move To Trash" will be displayed along a table
>>>>> listing all the files in the bin.  If you have an application or
>>>>> component selected then you'll see 5 tabs one after the other and
>>>>> they are Input, Schedule, Recording, Tags and Effects.  Each of
>>>>> these
>>>>> tabs pretty much explains itself, input allows you to set input  
>>>>> and
>>>>> output settings for your session, Schedule allows you to  
>>>>> schedule a
>>>>> start and stop time for your hijacking or recording of the  
>>>>> session,
>>>>> Recording allows you to specify settings for the recording of your
>>>>> session such as audio file format, sample rate, what to do with
>>>>> passages of silence, limits and so on.  Tags allows you to set up
>>>>> file tagging for the session and Effects allows you to apply  
>>>>> effects
>>>>> to the file such as a limiter, EQ and so on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Again this summary is a very basic summary but I thought I'd write
>>>>> it
>>>>> just to give you an idea of the Interface and what the application
>>>>> can do, if you're into audio then this is an application in my  
>>>>> view
>>>>> worth having.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 22/08/2009, at 9:25 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> I have never gotten the hang of Audio Hi

Re: Audio Hijack Pro

[Marie Howarth]

looks like I may just have to take the plunge and get amadeus then  
lol. I know I emailed the developers and they just said they'd pass it  
along lol. can you trial amadeus?

On Aug 22, 2009, at 8:52 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

>
> I wish I could say you were wrong  and the worst thing is that
> the developers couldn't give a damn it seems but not to worry, you can
> use a good editor like Amaedus Pro to fix that problem.
>
>
>
> Marie Howarth wrote:
>> I love audio high jack, have you at all managed to in whatever way
>> select more than one effect. I know others have said this is
>> impossible with VO, any tricks from your end here?
>>
>> On Aug 22, 2009, at 7:44 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, I've changed the subject line here from Audio Editors to Audio
>>> Hijack Pro as Audio Hijack Pro is not an audio editor.
>>>
>>> Like just about every Mac programme I use here, you don't need to  
>>> win
>>> the lottery to buy Audio Hijack Pro, I bought it in a bundle with
>>> Fission quite some time ago, think it was $48.00 for both  
>>> applications.
>>>
>>> The interface of Audio Hijack Pro is really very straight forward  
>>> and
>>> I'll summarise it here, When the programme is launched, the first
>>> thing which has keyboard focus is the "Component And Sessions List"
>>> table, this is where you select the component or session you wish to
>>> hijack or record from, to the left of this table is a toolbar which
>>> has buttons on it like record, pause, split to new file, Hijack,  
>>> Mute
>>> and so on - many of these buttons have keyboard shortcuts associated
>>> with them.
>>>
>>> What is displayed on the screen to the right of this table depends  
>>> on
>>> the session selected, if you have the "Recording Bin" selected -
>>> that's where new recordings go - then options pertaining to the bin
>>> such as "Edit" and "Move To Trash" will be displayed along a table
>>> listing all the files in the bin.  If you have an application or
>>> component selected then you'll see 5 tabs one after the other and
>>> they are Input, Schedule, Recording, Tags and Effects.  Each of  
>>> these
>>> tabs pretty much explains itself, input allows you to set input and
>>> output settings for your session, Schedule allows you to schedule a
>>> start and stop time for your hijacking or recording of the session,
>>> Recording allows you to specify settings for the recording of your
>>> session such as audio file format, sample rate, what to do with
>>> passages of silence, limits and so on.  Tags allows you to set up
>>> file tagging for the session and Effects allows you to apply effects
>>> to the file such as a limiter, EQ and so on.
>>>
>>> Again this summary is a very basic summary but I thought I'd write  
>>> it
>>> just to give you an idea of the Interface and what the application
>>> can do, if you're into audio then this is an application in my view
>>> worth having.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22/08/2009, at 9:25 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I have never gotten the hang of Audio Hijack Pro. I don't know the
>>>> first thing about what to do with it. I understand vaguely that you
>>>> can sorta record from any input, but how is beyond me. Some day,  
>>>> when
>>>> i've won the lottery, :-) i'll register it and then i have the
>>>> possibility to play with it some more, but for now... well, as i  
>>>> say i
>>>> don't know the first thing about it and the interface just makes me
>>>> confused.
>>>> /Krister
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 21 aug 2009 kl. 21.29 skrev Dane Trethowan:
>>>>
>>>>> I have both and both pieces of software were - as far as
>>>>> I'mconcerned - worth every cent I paid for them.  Audio Hijack Pro
>>>>> and Amadeus Pro still have some accessibility issues but on the
>>>>> whole both products are perfectly usable.  Both pieces of software
>>>>> have trial ware versions so take them for a spin and see how you
>>>>> like them.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 22/08/2009, at 12:35 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah. Thanks for the clarification Dane.  As I

Re: Braile labels and the disk drive

[Marie Howarth]

I personally wouldn't risk it, simply because something sticky in any  
disc drive may = bad news.

On Aug 22, 2009, at 8:41 PM, rayna424 wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone label discs with a braille labeler? I'm wondering if the
> lible impedes the disk in the disk drive, since its so slim. Any
> experience?
>
> Thanks,
> Randi
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Re: Audio Hijack Pro

[Marie Howarth]

use the safari session.

On Aug 22, 2009, at 8:39 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

>
> Hi  there.
> What confudles me the most is the difference between components and
> sessions. Do i have to ... urm no, what do i do in order to, say
> hijack and record a stream of audio from a web page and to avoid
> having VO interupting all the time? Can i do that?
> /Krister
>
>
> 22 aug 2009 kl. 20.44 skrev Dane Trethowan:
>
>> Okay, I've changed the subject line here from Audio Editors to Audio
>> Hijack Pro as Audio Hijack Pro is not an audio editor.
>>
>> Like just about every Mac programme I use here, you don't need to
>> win the lottery to buy Audio Hijack Pro, I bought it in a bundle
>> with Fission quite some time ago, think it was $48.00 for both
>> applications.
>>
>> The interface of Audio Hijack Pro is really very straight forward
>> and I'll summarise it here, When the programme is launched, the
>> first thing which has keyboard focus is the "Component And Sessions
>> List" table, this is where you select the component or session you
>> wish to hijack or record from, to the left of this table is a
>> toolbar which has buttons on it like record, pause, split to new
>> file, Hijack, Mute and so on - many of these buttons have keyboard
>> shortcuts associated with them.
>>
>> What is displayed on the screen to the right of this table depends
>> on the session selected, if you have the "Recording Bin" selected -
>> that's where new recordings go - then options pertaining to the bin
>> such as "Edit" and "Move To Trash" will be displayed along a table
>> listing all the files in the bin.  If you have an application or
>> component selected then you'll see 5 tabs one after the other and
>> they are Input, Schedule, Recording, Tags and Effects.  Each of
>> these tabs pretty much explains itself, input allows you to set
>> input and output settings for your session, Schedule allows you to
>> schedule a start and stop time for your hijacking or recording of
>> the session, Recording allows you to specify settings for the
>> recording of your session such as audio file format, sample rate,
>> what to do with passages of silence, limits and so on.  Tags allows
>> you to set up file tagging for the session and Effects allows you to
>> apply effects to the file such as a limiter, EQ and so on.
>>
>> Again this summary is a very basic summary but I thought I'd write
>> it just to give you an idea of the Interface and what the
>> application can do, if you're into audio then this is an application
>> in my view worth having.
>>
>>
>> On 22/08/2009, at 9:25 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I have never gotten the hang of Audio Hijack Pro. I don't know the
>>> first thing about what to do with it. I understand vaguely that you
>>> can sorta record from any input, but how is beyond me. Some day,  
>>> when
>>> i've won the lottery, :-) i'll register it and then i have the
>>> possibility to play with it some more, but for now... well, as i
>>> say i
>>> don't know the first thing about it and the interface just makes me
>>> confused.
>>> /Krister
>>>
>>>
>>> 21 aug 2009 kl. 21.29 skrev Dane Trethowan:
>>>
 I have both and both pieces of software were - as far as
 I'mconcerned - worth every cent I paid for them.  Audio Hijack Pro
 and Amadeus Pro still have some accessibility issues but on the
 whole both products are perfectly usable.  Both pieces of software
 have trial ware versions so take them for a spin and see how you
 like them.


 On 22/08/2009, at 12:35 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Ah. Thanks for the clarification Dane.  As I said, I haven’t had
> much time to play around with this yet, so don’t have direct
> experience with either program.
> Best,
> Donna
>
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> ] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:38 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Audio Editor
>
> Before we go any further, Audio Hijack is a completely different
> tool than is Amadeus Pro, recording might be about the only thing
> they have in common, Audio Hijack Pro "hijacks" audio devices and
> applications of a Mac but it cannot edit audio, you could for
> example use Audio Hijack Pro in conjunction with Amadeus Pro, that
> is to say "hijack" and "record" a source with Audio Hijack Pro and
> edit that recording with Amadeus Pro, things can be set up so that
> Amadeus Pro and Audio Hijack Pro integrate seamlessly with each
> other.
>
>
> On 21/08/2009, at 9:50 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Anna,
>
> Just curious about your recommendation of Amadeus Pro?  Would you
> recommend it over Audio HiJack?  Haven't had time to play with
> either yet, but just wondering how the two compare.
> Best,
> Donna
>
> -Original Message-
> F

Re: Audio Hijack Pro

[Marie Howarth]

I love audio high jack, have you at all managed to in whatever way  
select more than one effect. I know others have said this is  
impossible with VO, any tricks from your end here?

On Aug 22, 2009, at 7:44 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

> Okay, I've changed the subject line here from Audio Editors to Audio  
> Hijack Pro as Audio Hijack Pro is not an audio editor.
>
> Like just about every Mac programme I use here, you don't need to  
> win the lottery to buy Audio Hijack Pro, I bought it in a bundle  
> with Fission quite some time ago, think it was $48.00 for both  
> applications.
>
> The interface of Audio Hijack Pro is really very straight forward  
> and I'll summarise it here, When the programme is launched, the  
> first thing which has keyboard focus is the "Component And Sessions  
> List" table, this is where you select the component or session you  
> wish to hijack or record from, to the left of this table is a  
> toolbar which has buttons on it like record, pause, split to new  
> file, Hijack, Mute and so on - many of these buttons have keyboard  
> shortcuts associated with them.
>
> What is displayed on the screen to the right of this table depends  
> on the session selected, if you have the "Recording Bin" selected -  
> that's where new recordings go - then options pertaining to the bin  
> such as "Edit" and "Move To Trash" will be displayed along a table  
> listing all the files in the bin.  If you have an application or  
> component selected then you'll see 5 tabs one after the other and  
> they are Input, Schedule, Recording, Tags and Effects.  Each of  
> these tabs pretty much explains itself, input allows you to set  
> input and output settings for your session, Schedule allows you to  
> schedule a start and stop time for your hijacking or recording of  
> the session, Recording allows you to specify settings for the  
> recording of your session such as audio file format, sample rate,  
> what to do with passages of silence, limits and so on.  Tags allows  
> you to set up file tagging for the session and Effects allows you to  
> apply effects to the file such as a limiter, EQ and so on.
>
> Again this summary is a very basic summary but I thought I'd write  
> it just to give you an idea of the Interface and what the  
> application can do, if you're into audio then this is an application  
> in my view worth having.
>
>
> On 22/08/2009, at 9:25 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>> I have never gotten the hang of Audio Hijack Pro. I don't know the
>> first thing about what to do with it. I understand vaguely that you
>> can sorta record from any input, but how is beyond me. Some day, when
>> i've won the lottery, :-) i'll register it and then i have the
>> possibility to play with it some more, but for now... well, as i  
>> say i
>> don't know the first thing about it and the interface just makes me
>> confused.
>> /Krister
>>
>>
>> 21 aug 2009 kl. 21.29 skrev Dane Trethowan:
>>
>>> I have both and both pieces of software were - as far as
>>> I'mconcerned - worth every cent I paid for them.  Audio Hijack Pro
>>> and Amadeus Pro still have some accessibility issues but on the
>>> whole both products are perfectly usable.  Both pieces of software
>>> have trial ware versions so take them for a spin and see how you
>>> like them.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22/08/2009, at 12:35 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>>
 Ah. Thanks for the clarification Dane.  As I said, I haven’t had
 much time to play around with this yet, so don’t have direct
 experience with either program.
 Best,
 Donna

 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 ] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:38 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Audio Editor

 Before we go any further, Audio Hijack is a completely different
 tool than is Amadeus Pro, recording might be about the only thing
 they have in common, Audio Hijack Pro "hijacks" audio devices and
 applications of a Mac but it cannot edit audio, you could for
 example use Audio Hijack Pro in conjunction with Amadeus Pro, that
 is to say "hijack" and "record" a source with Audio Hijack Pro and
 edit that recording with Amadeus Pro, things can be set up so that
 Amadeus Pro and Audio Hijack Pro integrate seamlessly with each
 other.


 On 21/08/2009, at 9:50 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:



 Hi Anna,

 Just curious about your recommendation of Amadeus Pro?  Would you
 recommend it over Audio HiJack?  Haven't had time to play with
 either yet, but just wondering how the two compare.
 Best,
 Donna

 -Original Message-
 From: Woody Anna Dresner 
 Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 12:19 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Audio Editor


 Hi Mitchell,

 amadeus Pro should meet your needs. Be sure to chec

Re: Adium update has more labeled buttons

[Marie Howarth]

they were already labeled I think. it's the ones in the main window  
that needed to be made accessible. :)

On Aug 21, 2009, at 11:45 PM, Brett Campbell wrote:

> Interact with the toolbar in a conversation window.
>
>
> On Aug 21, 2009, at 1:32 PM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>
>> I don't see what buttons are labeled and I just updated.
>>
>> On Aug 21, 2009, at 8:31 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>
>>> Adium is my idea of an online text chat application, so easy to  
>>> use and yet so powerful and flexible, the only thing it can't  
>>> communicate with it seems is the human voice .
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22/08/2009, at 1:44 AM, Brett Campbell wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I just updated Adium to the latest build and the first thing I've
>>>> noticed is that the buttons in the tool bar are now labeled.  If  
>>>> this
>>>> took place in a previous release and I didn't notice, I apologize  
>>>> for
>>>> the post.
>>>>
>>>> Brett
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> Dane Trethowan
>>> From Melton Victoria Australia
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>>>
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Re: Adium update has more labeled buttons

[Marie Howarth]

I don't see what buttons are labeled and I just updated.

On Aug 21, 2009, at 8:31 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

> Adium is my idea of an online text chat application, so easy to use  
> and yet so powerful and flexible, the only thing it can't  
> communicate with it seems is the human voice .
>
>
> On 22/08/2009, at 1:44 AM, Brett Campbell wrote:
>
>>
>> I just updated Adium to the latest build and the first thing I've
>> noticed is that the buttons in the tool bar are now labeled.  If this
>> took place in a previous release and I didn't notice, I apologize for
>> the post.
>>
>> Brett
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> **
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Re: Syrinx and Twitter podcast?

[Marie Howarth]

don't worry about it. :)
you will be socially supered out before you know it! :)

On Aug 20, 2009, at 8:28 PM, Jenny Kennedy (Howard) wrote:

>
> Oh Marie! You're a doll. :-)
> I'll take as much help as I can get. Like I already said I don't know
> how to do much more than tweet on twitter but I see ppl RTing and this
> and that and some ppl even have their tweets showing up on FB. LOL I'm
> ready to get all social mediaed but feel sort of lost.
>
> Look forward to hearing what ya have to say.
> Much thanks :-)
> ~~~*~~~
>
> Best Wishes-
>
> Jenny Kennedy (Howard)
> Olathe, Kansas USA
>
> Feel free to stay in contact with me with any of the following:
>
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> iChat: blueskyes9112...@mac.com (for iChat contact only)
> Follow me on Twitter:
> http://www.twitter.com/ben_folds_fan
> Friend me on FaceBook, my profile is at:
> http://www.facebook.com/blueskyes
> or read  and subscribe to my blog:
> http://blueskyes9112006.blogspot.com
>
>
> Join the Blind Parents Of FaceBook BPFB group on FaceBook.  A
> wonderful place for blind parents to join up and network, share and
> ask questions.
> I'm the admin goto person.  For more information or to join please see
> "Blind Parents of FaceBook in the search box on FB or shoot me a
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Re: iPhone and iPod

[Marie Howarth]

yeah there is no feedback.

On Aug 20, 2009, at 6:37 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> Interesting. So I just tried this on the main page to double-tap and  
> hold on an icon for a second which then let me drag it to a new  
> position and the press home to lock it down. No feedback while I was  
> doing it but the other icons shifted down or up to make room for the  
> icon I was dragging. Wasn't sure how to do this before.
>
> CB
>
> Søren Jensen wrote:
>>
>> Wow. Awesome feature. :)
>> Best regards:
>> Søren Jensen
>> Mail & MSN:
>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
>> Website:
>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
>>
>> On 20/08/2009, at 03.25, Marie Howarth wrote:
>>
>>
>>> yes Christian.
>>> find the previous/next keys and double tap but don't lift your  
>>> finger
>>> up on the second tap. so tap once, hit again and hold it down as if
>>> you were doing the "pass through" geustre I believe it is called.
>>>
>>> On Aug 20, 2009, at 2:19 AM, Christian wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> I have now tried using iPod on my phone and so far so good.
>>>> But just a comment. I wish that it aws possible to use some fast
>>>> rewind or forward feature with VO. Has anyone found some way to use
>>>> this?
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>> Christian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: Syrinx and Twitter podcast?

[Marie Howarth]

OK, Jenny. Syrinx is one of my fave apps for the mac. I will put  
together a podcast, needed a new topic anyways. give me a few days? :)

On Aug 20, 2009, at 2:03 PM, Jenny Kennedy (Howard) wrote:

>
> Hi,
> Has anybody done a tutorial on using Syrinx and Twitter?  I installed
> Syrinx but am a lil lot confused on using it.  The "Friends" list for
> example isn't speaking.
>
> Any info on this would be most welcome.
> Thanks
> ~~~*~~~
>
> Best Wishes-
>
> Jenny Kennedy (Howard)
> Olathe, Kansas USA
>
> Feel free to stay in contact with me with any of the following:
>
> E-Mail: blueskyes9112...@gmail.com
> iChat: blueskyes9112...@mac.com (for iChat contact only)
> Follow me on Twitter:
> http://www.twitter.com/ben_folds_fan
> Friend me on FaceBook, my profile is at:
> http://www.facebook.com/blueskyes
> or read  and subscribe to my blog:
> http://blueskyes9112006.blogspot.com
>
>
> Join the Blind Parents Of FaceBook BPFB group on FaceBook.  A
> wonderful place for blind parents to join up and network, share and
> ask questions.
> I'm the admin goto person.  For more information or to join please see
> "Blind Parents of FaceBook in the search box on FB or shoot me a
> message via FB msg service and I will add you to the group.
>
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Re: One little annoying thing with iPhone

[Marie Howarth]

maybe I'm weird but i love this feature. saves me messing around with  
the settings to put someone on speaker phone when I need my hands. but  
May's right, use the headset if you wanna avoid this feature.

On Aug 20, 2009, at 3:13 PM, May and Wynter wrote:

>
> Yes, a lot of people have that same complaint.  I just use the head  
> phones
> so don't have to deal with that.
>
> May, join my blog
> www.true-friends2009.com
> - Original Message -
> From: "Christian" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 4:13 AM
> Subject: One little annoying thing with iPhone
>
>
>
> Hi all,
> When in a phone call and if I change the way I am holding the phone  
> the
> speaker phone is some times automatically turned on. I don't like  
> this and I
> wish there was some way to turn that feature off.
> Best regards,
> Christian
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Re: iPhone and iPod

[Marie Howarth]

yes Christian.
find the previous/next keys and double tap but don't lift your finger  
up on the second tap. so tap once, hit again and hold it down as if  
you were doing the "pass through" geustre I believe it is called.

On Aug 20, 2009, at 2:19 AM, Christian wrote:

>
> Hi all,
> I have now tried using iPod on my phone and so far so good.
> But just a comment. I wish that it aws possible to use some fast  
> rewind or forward feature with VO. Has anyone found some way to use  
> this?
> Many thanks,
> Christian
>
>
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Re: OT Help with external drive

[Marie Howarth]

This wasn't working either Scot. have managed to fix it. got an  
application called data rescue which somehow mounted the drives for  
me. went into dis utility where they now showed up and repaired.  
everything is working fine. Thank you!
:)

On Aug 19, 2009, at 4:27 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

>
> Can you connect each device independently (without the hub) and
> determine if the Mac is recognizing them without any issues?  You may
> be having some problems with the hub itself.
> On Aug 19, 2009, at 10:05 AM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>
>>
>> thanks for this Anna. the problem is that the drives are not showing
>> up. going to have another look at this though.
>>
>> On Aug 19, 2009, at 2:38 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Marie,
>>>
>>> I know that Disk Utility includes first aid options. I've never used
>>> them, but it might be worth a try. I believe you go to Utilities and
>>> choose Disk Utility from there.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
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Re: OT Help with external drive

[Marie Howarth]

thanks for this Anna. the problem is that the drives are not showing  
up. going to have another look at this though.

On Aug 19, 2009, at 2:38 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

>
> Hi Marie,
>
> I know that Disk Utility includes first aid options. I've never used
> them, but it might be worth a try. I believe you go to Utilities and
> choose Disk Utility from there.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
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OT Help with external drive

[Marie Howarth]

Hello,
last night my usb hub kept disconnecting itself and telling me that  
something was pulling too much power on it. I had my external drive,  
usb headset and iphone plugged in. This usually works fine. So I  
disconnected the external and reconnected it again and it seemed fine.  
This morning when I launched my mac, the drive would not show up. I  
have this particular drive partitioned, one is in Fat-32 and has my  
data on it, I.e itunes library, all my documents, the other half is my  
mac back up solution with time machine. I connected my other external  
hard drive and it showed up fine. So I went to my windows computer and  
connected the sick HD. My data showed up and works fine. I knew the  
mac side, as its in mac format, formatted for the time machines back  
ups would not show. Upon reconnecting the HD to my mac, my data showed  
up but no mac back up. Now I am unable to eject my data and am  
desperately wondering what I can do.
thanks for any help and sorry this is off topic but I really hope  
someone can assist me.

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Re: GMail in Apple Mail?

[Marie Howarth]

I've not experienced this yet and have 2 gmail accounts running on my  
mail.

On Aug 18, 2009, at 2:16 PM, John JD Denning wrote:

>
> I tend to think it is a gmail problem. Else I'd see it in other
> accounts.
>
> On Aug 18, 2009, at 8:43 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote:
>
>> As to why the problem is, I don't know, mine doesn't do it on a
>> regular basis, but every once in a while it will want a password
>> from one of the gmail acounts.  Starting to wonder if it's a gmail
>> issue verses an Apple mail issue.
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Re: Autofill with the Mac

[Marie Howarth]

I have to disagree with you on one point. The ability to add a song  
with the contextual menu to a playlist with your ipod's name is still  
available on the mac.

On Aug 18, 2009, at 4:51 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I've been experimenting with PCs today, and it turns out that Autofill
> no longer exists as an option for the third generation Shuffle or the
> 4th generation Nano in Windows either. Furthermore, I can't copy and
> paste anything to either of these iPods either on a Mac or a PC. When
> I copy a track and focus on the iPod's name or the Music subcategory,
> Paste is not an available option. There is also no playlist named for
> the iPod, so using the Add to Playlist option you get when you right-
> click a track is also not an option. As near as I can tell, it is
> currently not possible to manage music manually on an iPod from the
> keyboard.
>
> I didn't notice this earlier because I normally sync selected
> playlists. However, I wrote a book on the accessible iPods a few
> months ago, and I'm in the process of updating it, so I need to
> explore all the options. I am really surprised the manual music
> management options have been removed. It's a great loss in
> functionality.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
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Re: Autofill with the Mac

[Marie Howarth]

Anna,
if you want to add songs to your ipod. just highlight the songs you'd  
like to add and in the contextual menu go to add to playlist and find  
your ipod's playlist, usually is your name ipod playlist and hit  
enter. the songs you highlighted are now in your ipod playlist.

On Aug 17, 2009, at 5:14 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

>
> HI Erik,
>
> You can indeed copy and paste single songs or a selection of tracks to
> an iPod in Windows if you manage your iPod manually. YOu can even
> select a track in Windows Explorer that isn't in your iTunes library,
> copy it to the clipboard, and paste it into your iPod if you're
> focused on its name in the sources list while pasting. I can't imagine
> why such a useful feature doesn't exist on the Mac side. I'll write  
> to accessibil...@apple.com
>  about it.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
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Re: iplayer

[Marie Howarth]

it used to work until the bbc changed something. and at one point  
after they did this, there was a notice saying that the iplayer will  
not work with screen readers.
don't know why they had to change it, it worked grate with vo before.

On Aug 17, 2009, at 10:21 AM, william lomas wrote:

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>   hi has anyone gotten the bbc IPlayer to work on the mac with safari?
> I can't get programs to paly?
>
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Re: setting up hot mail in mail?

[Marie Howarth]

first of all,
is your account older than about two years. it won't work if its a  
newer account.

On Aug 17, 2009, at 12:38 AM, trahern culver wrote:

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> hey all i'v tride to set up my hot mail account in mail by following
> an internet guyde but it doesn't seam to work please could some one
> reply and tell me how to do this? your help with this would be most
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Re: Safari 4.0.3

[Marie Howarth]

It only says unhighlighted if you continue to type an address it  
already has in the address bar. if you type a different letter and the  
address changes, it says another address. And seen as some people were  
complaining that voice over kept saying the addresses while still  
typing. now it doesn't do that, and still, well, lol

On Aug 16, 2009, at 7:43 PM, william lomas wrote:

>
> yup i wondered why it said unselected
>
> On 16 Aug 2009, at 19:00, Barry Hadder wrote:
>
>>
>> I've just started using it and I've noticed one annoying thing right
>> off the bat.  When I type a url in the address bar and it auto-
>> completes it, all VO says is "not high-lighted".
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott Howell wrote:
>>> Folks, have any of you upgraded to the most recent version of Safari
>>> and had any issues?  I read an article that indicated there were  
>>> some
>>> problems and so I thought I'd ask before upgrading.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
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Re: Flash content, who do we contact?

[Marie Howarth]

you know what is really annoying? on their home page they are  
seemingly all for accessibility wit "assistive technology". It's time  
adobe realised that we mean business. lol. But sadly, I see no way to  
contact them.

On Aug 14, 2009, at 5:36 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

>
> Apple has provided the interface to make it accessible, but,
> nfortunately, Adobe has stated that they do not think it's worth the
> resources to make flash accessible on the mac, hopefully that will
> change as more and more people are getting macs
> On Aug 13, 2009, at 8:21 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote:
>
>>
>> I agree. I'm getting annoyed with the lack of flash. I once emailed
>> apple and asked about the inaccessability of live journal voice  
>> posts,
>> which use flash, and they told me to contact adobe.
>> On 13-Aug-09, at 1:11 PM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> OK, I am no expert on these matters so I am coming to the list to  
>>> ask
>>> the questions. Who are we to contact about the lack of accessibility
>>> with flash content? Apple or Adobe? I really am getting tired of not
>>> being able to use flash content and it is actually slightly better  
>>> on
>>> the other OS but no where near as good as it once was. I used to be
>>> able to use flash content around version eight I believe it was but
>>> sadly we all had to upgrade to the really bad version nine which
>>> caused me to lose any hope of using flash. in the latest version  
>>> with
>>> Jaws, although nothing is labeled, it seems a little better. so
>>> please, who do we talk too? I really feel this would help us all and
>>> if anyone else wants to use flash, let's email the relevant
>>> people. :)
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
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Re: Flash content, who do we contact?

[Marie Howarth]

I was just on their site to try and see how we contact them, seems  
that whoever we contact is offline, unless I am missing the point  
exactly.

On Aug 13, 2009, at 9:27 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> Agreed. The Apple accessibility APIs are documented and have been  
> around for some time. The ball is in Adobe's court to implement them  
> in their plugin. There was a bug opened on this back in April 2008  
> but to vote you have to get past a captcha, so the issue was self  
> defeating.
>
> http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-38
>
> A revealing bit is this thread from June 2008 on this mailing list  
> with Andrew Kirkpatrick, senior product manager of accessibility at  
> Adobe who actually posted directly to this list.
>
> CB
>
> Daniel Crone wrote:
>>
>> It is Adobe we should contact.
>> On Aug 13, 2009, at 3:11 PM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>>
>>
>>> OK, I am no expert on these matters so I am coming to the list to  
>>> ask
>>> the questions. Who are we to contact about the lack of accessibility
>>> with flash content? Apple or Adobe? I really am getting tired of not
>>> being able to use flash content and it is actually slightly better  
>>> on
>>> the other OS but no where near as good as it once was. I used to be
>>> able to use flash content around version eight I believe it was but
>>> sadly we all had to upgrade to the really bad version nine which
>>> caused me to lose any hope of using flash. in the latest version  
>>> with
>>> Jaws, although nothing is labeled, it seems a little better. so
>>> please, who do we talk too? I really feel this would help us all and
>>> if anyone else wants to use flash, let's email the relevant  
>>> people. :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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>>
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Re: Flash content, who do we contact?

[Marie Howarth]

Thank you. i am now off to email them.

On Aug 13, 2009, at 9:14 PM, Daniel Crone wrote:

>
> It is Adobe we should contact.
> On Aug 13, 2009, at 3:11 PM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>
>>
>> OK, I am no expert on these matters so I am coming to the list to ask
>> the questions. Who are we to contact about the lack of accessibility
>> with flash content? Apple or Adobe? I really am getting tired of not
>> being able to use flash content and it is actually slightly better on
>> the other OS but no where near as good as it once was. I used to be
>> able to use flash content around version eight I believe it was but
>> sadly we all had to upgrade to the really bad version nine which
>> caused me to lose any hope of using flash. in the latest version with
>> Jaws, although nothing is labeled, it seems a little better. so
>> please, who do we talk too? I really feel this would help us all and
>> if anyone else wants to use flash, let's email the relevant  
>> people. :)
>>
>>
>>>
>
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Flash content, who do we contact?

[Marie Howarth]

OK, I am no expert on these matters so I am coming to the list to ask  
the questions. Who are we to contact about the lack of accessibility  
with flash content? Apple or Adobe? I really am getting tired of not  
being able to use flash content and it is actually slightly better on  
the other OS but no where near as good as it once was. I used to be  
able to use flash content around version eight I believe it was but  
sadly we all had to upgrade to the really bad version nine which  
caused me to lose any hope of using flash. in the latest version with  
Jaws, although nothing is labeled, it seems a little better. so  
please, who do we talk too? I really feel this would help us all and  
if anyone else wants to use flash, let's email the relevant people. :)


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Re: Regestering my apple care protection plan

[Marie Howarth]

my apple care is automatic. when I bought my mac I bought apple care,  
got the cd but every time I've dealt with teem, it shows up i have  
apple care with them. maybe it's a country thing.

On Aug 13, 2009, at 8:43 PM, Esther wrote:

>
> Hi Chris and Matthew,
>
> I think the CD is a copy of the TechTool Deluxe diagnostic programs
> for troubleshooting your Mac.  I've never had to use this myself for
> hardware problems.  One you are registered fro AppleCare you can
> always download the latest copy of these programs from the web.
>
> Matthew, you can do the registration yourself entirely on line, but
> you'll need to be able to get the registration code for your AppleCare
> protection from the bar code on the package. I've only ever purchased
> AppleCare from an Apple Store, so when they scan the product this code
> shows up in the PDF receipt that they email to me (one of the options
> they offer you at time of purchase.)  If you ordered this on the web
> from Apple this code may have been included in your order shipment
> email.  Also, if you purchase your Mac from an Apple Store and buy
> AppleCare at the time, they can set up your machine and handle this
> for you.  They'll even do a standard migration from your old computer
> (Mac or PC), although if a store is busy, and it is at the beginning
> of the school year with lots of new sales you may have to leave your
> computer there for a few days if you want them to provide this service
> (with the data migration -- not the new setup and AppleCare; that you
> can generally get back in a few hours, even when they are fairly  
> busy).
>
> If you can find the bar code, I can point you to the registration
> pages, and tell you how to locate your machine serial number.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
> Chris Blouch wrote:
>
>>
>> Hmm. At one time they used to give out an older version of TechTool.
>> Guess you could just pop it in your drive and poke around.
>>
>> CB
>>
>> matthew T dyer wrote:
>>> Good afternoon everyone.
>>>
>>> I just received my applecare protection plan aloong with a cd.   
>>> First
>>> what is obn this cd?  Second as a blind person, how do I regester
>>> this.  I do not have sited people  to help me do this.  Is there a
>>> way
>>> to do this over the phone or what do I do?  Thanks.
>>>
>>> Matthew
>>>
>>>
>>> matthew dyer
>>> ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com
>>> Live journal:  mtdyer2009
>>> MSN: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter: mdyer1
>>> facebook: mdyer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>>
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Re: Skype on Iphone

[Marie Howarth]

it's called fring. the call quality is not great but if you really  
need to use it and for short periods, i'm sure it'd work just fine.

On Aug 11, 2009, at 1:18 PM, Chris Hofstader wrote:

>
> I tried Skype on the iPhone and found that I could not get into the
> list of contacts in order to make a call.  My sighted wife looked at
> the screen and, with VO running, she couldn't figure out how to pick a
> contact either.  I think someone on the other VO list suggested a
> program that replaces Skype and that it is far more accessible.
>
> I'm having a very strange summer so my brain feels a lot scrambled and
> I'm not sure where my Skype on iPhone notes went but I think the
> program may be called "Ring" but don't hold me to that.
>
> cdh
> On Aug 11, 2009, at 4:44 AM, hank smith wrote:
>
>>
>> mine fall out all the time
>> drives me friggen crazy
>> On Aug 10, 2009, at 10:11 PM, Brent Harding wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I think tapping into the rest of the phone is hard for them as each
>>> manufacturer supposedly has a proprietary way of using the earpiece.
>>> Those
>>> earbuds you have to use suck because they're too big to get in the
>>> ear
>>> comfortably so you have to sort of jam them in sideways, or I do
>>> anyways,
>>> and then they start to want to come out.
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Chris Gilland" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 10:27 PM
>>> Subject: RE: Skype on Iphone
>>>
>>>

 Yeah, I have a wm phone, and let me tell you: Skype is great? but  
 o!
 Jesus!
 is the sound quality horrad unless you have a wired headset.  You
 cannot
 even do it with a bluetooth one.  I think Skype developers  
 r'really!
 kissed
 the bucket on that one.

 Chris.


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 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christian
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 Subject: Skype on Iphone


 Hi all,
 I have heared that Skype works on the Iphone. Is it possible to use
 the
 ear
 piece for Skype and not the speaker phone like one has to use on  
 WM?
 Many thanks,
 Christian




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Re: Keyboard Help

[Marie Howarth]

my external has one on the left and one on the right.
but only use the vo keys on the left.

On Aug 10, 2009, at 10:54 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

>
> Funny, my external Mac keyboard has only one control key on the left
> side.  I'm not sure what key sequences would require crossing your
> wrists, but of course everyone is a little different in their approach
> or physical abilities to press different key strokes.  Of course you
> can always lock the VO-keys by using VO-; (semicolon) or if your using
> an external keyboard, you always have the Keypad Commander.  I think
> you'll find some features in Snow Leopard, which will give you greater
> flexibility as well.
> On Aug 10, 2009, at 4:39 AM, Mark Baxter wrote:
>
>>
>> This is the major drawback to VO for me; on a Macbook, there is only
>> one control key, on the left side.  This means that, unless you've  
>> got
>> seven fingers or are strangely double-jointed, sometimes you have to
>> cross your hands at the wrists.  This doesn't happen very frequently,
>> though, and it's not a huge inconvenience.  I do wonder about the  
>> wear
>> and tear on the keyboard, though, and am hoping that Snow Leopard  
>> will
>> have a work-around for this.
>>
>>
>> Mark BurningHawk Baxter
>>
>> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
>> MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
>> My home page:
>> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>>
>>
>>>
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Re: A wordpress and safari question for all bloggers out there

[Marie Howarth]

I'm guessing there would be some kind of tool to do this or some code.  
you may wanna search live journal to investigate more.

On Aug 9, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Mark Baxter wrote:

>
> Can you set Xjournal or something to upload to your own domain?  I
> never thought about posting a blog on my own domain, and I'm really
> not sure why.  I use LiveJournal, now:
> http://livejournal.com/users/BurningHawk
> if anyone cares.  Maybe it'd get people coming to my domain,
> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
> and then they'd get more acquainted with my creative stuff, not just
> my rants. :)
>
>
> Mark BurningHawk Baxter
>
> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
> MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
> My home page:
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Re: stopping an Audio Hijack session

[Marie Howarth]

uncheck the record button and high jack buttons in the tool bar.

On Aug 9, 2009, at 2:09 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I am trying out Audio Hijack Pro. I tried recording something off the
> Internet. I chose itunes because I have itunes set to play Internet
> content, I chose Hijack, I pressed Record and played what I wanted to
> record, and I chose Pause Recording from the controls menu. Now what
> do I do to tell it I'm done with the session? I can't find a Stop or
> Save option anywhere, nor can I find any relevant info in the manual.
> Thanks so much for any help.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
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Re: A wordpress and safari question for all bloggers out there

[Marie Howarth]

I've been having the same issue, hope someone can answer it. some of  
the widgets are really good. and before some kind of update on  
wordpress's part, this feature was pretty accessible.

On Aug 9, 2009, at 1:47 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

>
> Hi good knowledgable people out in Mac land.
> I'm trying to set up a blog on my domain and i'm thinking about using
> widgets on it. My question to you is how do you activate wordpress
> widgets using Safari? The instructions say to drag/drop widgets onto
> the side bar of the theme in Wordpress to activate them, but umm, i
> can't find the sidebars so how do people do this with Safari and
> Voiceover?
> TIA
> /Krister
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Re: weather on i phone

[Marie Howarth]

go to add city at the bottom right hand corner. then you can search  
for cities to add.

On Aug 7, 2009, at 4:04 PM, william lomas wrote:

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>   hi all
>
> On the weather ap on the i phone, how do i tell it which city i want?
> Playing with my mates i phone at the moment
> WIll
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Re: real player super pass under mac?

[Marie Howarth]

on the link try and vo--shift--m and see if you can open the link  
within the contextual menu, either with open in new window or open in  
new tab.

On Aug 7, 2009, at 9:45 AM, hank smith wrote:

>
> hello I am subscribed to the real player super pass
> I am trying to get access to my 10.00 dollars of credits for free  
> music
> I found the link to do this but it won't click meaning it won't
> activate when I vo key space
> also  tried enter no luck
> I can't get it to appear under the mouse vo says
> can't router to mouse
> sorry if I am confusing the terms
> has any one used this successfully under mac?
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Re: when closing lid

[Marie Howarth]

I've never experienced this. was the lid closed properly?

On Aug 4, 2009, at 1:30 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Are there any situations when it doesn't do this? I ask because a  
> few days ago I closed the lid, wanting it to go to sleep, but it  
> didn't. About every 30 seconds, it made that noise that it makes  
> when VO first comes on.
> Donna
>
> From: Marie Howarth 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 8:20 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: when closing lid
>
> hybernating? it's called sleeping on the mac and that is what it  
> does when you close the lid.
>
> On Aug 4, 2009, at 1:10 PM, Blake Sinnett wrote:
>
>> Not necessarily What if you want it to hybernate? Wouldn't this be  
>> in apple>system preferences>Energy Saver?
>>
>> > From: giantdolp...@gmail.com
>> > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: Re: when closing lid
>> > Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 01:22:40 -1000
>> >
>> >
>> > What do you mean "control"? If you close any laptop if goes to  
>> sleep
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > On Aug 4, 2009, at 1:14 AM, william lomas
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > hi how do I control the behaviour of the mac when i close the lid
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >
>> >
>> >
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Re: when closing lid

[Marie Howarth]

hybernating? it's called sleeping on the mac and that is what it does  
when you close the lid.

On Aug 4, 2009, at 1:10 PM, Blake Sinnett wrote:

> Not necessarily. What if you want it to hybernate? Wouldn't this be  
> in apple>system preferences>Energy Saver?
>
> > From: giantdolp...@gmail.com
> > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: when closing lid
> > Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 01:22:40 -1000
> >
> >
> > What do you mean "control"? If you close any laptop if goes to  
> sleep.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Aug 4, 2009, at 1:14 AM, william lomas
> >  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > hi how do I control the behaviour of the mac when i close the lid
> > >
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Re: mobile me and Iweb

[Marie Howarth]

I was a little disappointed with the response myself Scot. I just hope  
that they are merely keeping with their apple says nothing until last  
minute policy.

On Aug 4, 2009, at 11:13 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:

>
> At the risk of coming across as slightly standoff-ish, does anybody
> else think that this situation and reply is a bit of a sham?  There
> wasn't even a mention of iWeb, and both products have been updated
> recently enough for improvements to be made surely.  It's not like
> these are old smalltime products on a dusty old shelf somewhere with
> no development time being put into them, Apple markets the hell out of
> these and makes them into big selling points to buy their hardware and
> make the switch.  It's like "knock knock, who's there, oh it's just a
> third party developer who doesn't see the need to do anything about
> access because even Apple themselves don't bother with it that much in
> their flagship products".
>
> Yes it's ranty, no it's not polite and probably it's not productive,
> but frankly neither am I anywhere near as productive as I should be by
> now in Mac OS, and Apple not practicing what they preach is becoming a
> key reason for that.
>
> Scott
>
> On 8/4/09, Marie Howarth  wrote:
>> I thought you guys might be interested in this response I got from
>> apple.
>>
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: Accessibility 
>>> Date: August 4, 2009 6:09:13 AM BST
>>> To: Marie Howarth 
>>> Subject: Re: mobile me and Iweb
>>>
>>> Hi Marie:
>>>
>>> Thank you for your interest in MobileMe.  As you noted, some aspects
>>> work well with VoiceOver and others need improvement.  Because of
>>> this, Apple is not recommending it for VO users even though some
>>> features may work well.  We are working to enhance MobileMe but do
>>> not have a schedule or date we can offer.   When this situation
>>> changes, we will be sure to note it on the Apple accessibility web
>>> page.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 2, 2009, at 7:09 AM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I was just wondering as I am using voice over and a trial of mobile
>>>> me if there were going to be huge accessibility changes in that
>>>> particular area soon? I have successfully kept my iphone and mac
>>>> synced with mobile me and have started to use the idisc feature. I
>>>> would love to pay for a yearly subscription but am a little
>>>> uncertain whether to do this at this present moment with so many
>>>> things reading as images on the website and certain features
>>>> unavailable purely due to an accessibility issue.
>>>>
>>>> Also, Iweb would be a great tool for me as I manage several
>>>> websites. Are there any ways I can use this application at all?
>>>> Looking at it, it seems like it is not possible to do a lot of
>>>> things here at the present moment.
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Marie
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>
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Fwd: mobile me and Iweb

[Marie Howarth]

I thought you guys might be interested in this response I got from  
apple.



Begin forwarded message:

> From: Accessibility 
> Date: August 4, 2009 6:09:13 AM BST
> To: Marie Howarth 
> Subject: Re: mobile me and Iweb
>
> Hi Marie:
>
> Thank you for your interest in MobileMe.  As you noted, some aspects  
> work well with VoiceOver and others need improvement.  Because of  
> this, Apple is not recommending it for VO users even though some  
> features may work well.  We are working to enhance MobileMe but do  
> not have a schedule or date we can offer.   When this situation  
> changes, we will be sure to note it on the Apple accessibility web  
> page.
>
>
>
> On Aug 2, 2009, at 7:09 AM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I was just wondering as I am using voice over and a trial of mobile  
>> me if there were going to be huge accessibility changes in that  
>> particular area soon? I have successfully kept my iphone and mac  
>> synced with mobile me and have started to use the idisc feature. I  
>> would love to pay for a yearly subscription but am a little  
>> uncertain whether to do this at this present moment with so many  
>> things reading as images on the website and certain features  
>> unavailable purely due to an accessibility issue.
>>
>> Also, Iweb would be a great tool for me as I manage several  
>> websites. Are there any ways I can use this application at all?  
>> Looking at it, it seems like it is not possible to do a lot of  
>> things here at the present moment.
>> Thanks
>> Marie
>>
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Re: copy voiceover text to clipbord

[Marie Howarth]

it's vo--shift--c

On Aug 3, 2009, at 2:50 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:

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> Hi friends, I'm having a brain cramp and I can't for the life of me
> remember what the key stroke is for the most useful task of copying
> the last thing voice over said to the clipbord.
>
> Thanks for your help and patience.
>
>
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Re: Another Iphone question

[Marie Howarth]

yes to both of these questions.

On Aug 2, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Christian wrote:

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> Hi,
> Can VoiceOver be used during a phonecall?
> Will VoiceOver also tell you the Caller ID before you answer?
> Many thanks,
> Christian
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iphone in recovery mode

[Marie Howarth]

OK, so i had to force quit itunes during the software update and my  
iphone is now in recovery mode. am I going to need to take it to apple  
or could I find some eyes to do this in my house? unsure why the  
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mobile me, idisc on the web

[Marie Howarth]

I have a trial of mobile me and I am thinking of paying the 59 pounds  
per year to keep it after my trial runs out. I'm curious if anyone has  
used the idisc feature and if they've successfully managed to see  
their uploaded files on the web. this would help me distribute files  
to friends, such as huge documents so i was really hoping this would  
work. anyone managed to get it working and how well with voice over?
I know mobile me isn't perfect with voice over at the min, but it is a  
good product in my opinion.
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Re: question

[Marie Howarth]

Amber, vlc will do this I believe. it's a free player too and it plays  
multi regions.
I've never tried to rip but I was told it does.
hth

On Aug 2, 2009, at 12:35 AM, Amber Duff wrote:

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> I just got my mac at the beginning of July. Absolutely love it! but
> anyway I was wanting to know a good dvd ripping program.
> Thanks, Amber
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Re: Copying from an email

[Marie Howarth]

you need to use vo--enter to use select mode. find the information you  
need to copy and then hit vo--enter and move the vo curser with vo-- 
right/left arrow until you've selected the information you need and  
then hit vo--enter again which will take you from select mode and hit  
command--c to copy. then paste where ever you need.
hth

On Jul 31, 2009, at 11:43 PM, Mac Cougar wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> I need to find out how to copy just one thing from an email.  I have
> and email with a phone number in it that I would like to copy.  How do
> you select and copy from an email?
>
> ∂Thanks
> Steve
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Re: Another question about iphone

[Marie Howarth]

yes Christian, it is. :)

On Jul 31, 2009, at 10:30 PM, Christian wrote:

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> Hi,
> the maps application that is on the phone, is that accessible with  
> VoiceOver?
> I suppose it is.
> many thanks,
> Christian
>
>
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Re: don't like the voice on the i phone

[Marie Howarth]

Alex takes up way too much ram as I understand it. and there is  
another reason apple didn't or rather couldn't incorporate alex. I'm  
quite fond of Samantha. Alex may have been a little too soft to hear  
when out in busy places.

On Jul 30, 2009, at 9:35 AM, william lomas wrote:

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>   Hi I am upset that alex is not used on the i phone. I would ahve
> thought apple would want to incorporate alex, as it gives the best
> quality
> regards will
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Re: using my own music as a ringtone

[Marie Howarth]

you need to delete the m4a from your itunes library otherwise the m4r  
won't import.

On Jul 29, 2009, at 3:27 AM, Kim Carmichael wrote:

>
> OK, thanks.  It is definitely less than 40 seconds.  It is a short  
> beep.
> I'll keep trying and maybe I'll luck up.
>
> Thanks
> Kim
>
>
>
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> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Panarese
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:23 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: using my own music as a ringtone
>
>
>   Off the top of my head, and I admit that I'm wiped out, I'd be  
> sure
> the files are less than 40 seconds in length. I followed the steps  
> of first
> selecting the piece of the song that I wanted as the tone,  
> converting it to
> AAC, copying the m4a file to my desktop and then changing the  
> extension to
> m4r before then playing it.  This has worked for me every time.   
> Again,
> though, make sure the file is under 40 seconds.
>
> Take Care
>
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> On Jul 28, 2009, at 10:18 PM, Kim Carmichael wrote:
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>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I created the m4a file, then changed the file extension to m4r and
>> played it in iTunes.  When I go to ring tones and search for the file
>> name the list comes up empty.  Do you have an idea what I missed?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Kim
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Panarese
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:53 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: using my own music as a ringtone
>>
>>
>> Someone can correct me if there is another way, but you'd have to
>> first convert the MP3 file into an AAC file in iTunes.  Then,  
>> manually
>> change the extension from M4A to M4R.  Then play it in iTunes and it
>> should be added to your ring tones list.
>>
>>
>> Take Care
>>
>> John Panarese
>>
>> On Jul 28, 2009, at 10:39 AM, william lomas wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> hi on the i phone how can I get my mp3's to play as a ringtone?
>>> ?
>>> Will
>>>
>>>

>>
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Re: duplicates in Itunes library

[Marie Howarth]

i would love to know the answer to this. I can only tell you I did it  
all by hand which was painstaking. I honestly believe apple could make  
it easier on us and when you highlight all duplicates, to be shown, it  
gives you the option to delete only the duplicates. if you hit show  
all duplicates, and then select all the songs in the songs table, it  
deletes all of them, including the ones you wanted to keep :)

On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:50 AM, Mark Baxter wrote:

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> I've noticed lots of duplicate entries in the "Itunes Music," folder,
> and wonder if Itunes has a way to clean these up, so that there's only
> one file of each song or whatever?
>
>
> Mark BurningHawk
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Re: prob,e with mobiledevicehelper when connecting iphone 3gs

[Marie Howarth]

try checking the box again. this happened to me with notes, I  
unchecked and rechecked, works fine now.

On Jul 28, 2009, at 8:32 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote:

>
> Thanks,
> I've actually unchecked the address book checkbox and it does seem  
> to work.
>
> Alas, it is a shame that i can't create new addresses to synch with my
> iphone as i'm doing a full switch to mac and all my contacts have to
> be painstakingly tapped on the phone instead of on the address book
> app. does anyone have the know how to respond to this problem?
>
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Re: mac mini without monitor and set up

[Marie Howarth]

it wouldn't do anything until my sighted help clicked a welcome button  
or something. I was confused because I had read you didn't need any  
assistance but maybe I don't know. there was the music and then just  
nothing.

On Jul 28, 2009, at 2:00 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

>
> Marie, you dont' need anyone at any point during the process. If you
> follow the instructions upon startup of the machine, you will receive
> the human voice explaining what you need to do when getting started.
> I'm not sure or clear what you needed sighted assistance for in
> starting some assistance something.
> On Jul 27, 2009, at 7:02 PM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey,
>> I already have a macbook and I'm thinking of getting a mac mini. I
>> know if you don't have the monitor you need the adapter to make the
>> mini think there is one to prevent sluggish behaviour. My question  
>> is,
>> how would you set up the mac independently without sighted  
>> assistance?
>> I had to have someone hit the start voice over assistive set up thing
>> on my mac book when I got it. but if you don't have a monitor, can
>> this be achieved some way? I've never reinstalled my leopard yet,
>> although I understand it can be done. simply, can I set up my mac  
>> mini
>> without sighted assistance?
>> thanks Marie
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: mac mini without monitor and set up

[Marie Howarth]

thanks for this Blake.

On Jul 28, 2009, at 1:05 AM, Blake Sinnett wrote:

> I've done some further testing. Using the new 2009 model Mac Mini, I  
> hooked up the Mini-DVI to video adapter and launched Safari and  
> browsed a few pages. Then, I unplugged the adapter and restarted the  
> Mini. Once again, I launched Safari. It was quite unresponsive. It  
> appears this adapter still works on the new Mac Minis.
>
> > From: mori...@mac.com
> > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: mac mini without monitor and set up
> > Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:25:47 -1000
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Marie, you might want to check whether running without a monitor  
> will
> > present a problem for the current generation Mac Mini and whether
> > using an adapter helps at all in this case. The reason for  
> exercising
> > some care here is that after the last round of discussions, where we
> > hypothesized which new connector would work with the new model mini,
> > additional information came to light that not only was the form  
> factor
> > of the video connector plug different, but it also passed signals  
> in a
> > different fashion. Previously, the connector passed analog signals,
> > and it was not possible for your computer to check via the feedback
> > whether or not your computer was connected to a monitor via that
> > connector. In the video out port connections of the new model mini,
> > no analog signal gets passed and it's all digital. That means it's
> > possible for the system to check whether there is a monitor  
> present at
> > the other end. Other features dependent on the connector have also
> > changed, and I don't think you can play movies on a TV from your
> > computer if you are using the new digital only video connector  
> ports.
> > That's not true of the older model Macs (or the older MacBooks).
> >
> > So far I don't think we have any users who report they're using the
> > new Mini without a monitor (with or without an adapter at the end).
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Esther
> >
> > On Jul 27, 2009, at 13:10, Dan wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > > When you start the machine for the first time, you will hear the
> > > music. Then an announcement about if you already know how to use
> > > VoiceOver, just press Command F5 to start VO. You can set it up
> > > yourself. I have set up my different Macs without sighted  
> assistance.
> > > Dan
> > > On Jul 27, 2009, at 4:02 PM, Marie Howarth wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Hey,
> > >> I already have a macbook and I'm thinking of getting a mac  
> mini. I
> > >> know if you don't have the monitor you need the adapter to make  
> the
> > >> mini think there is one to prevent sluggish behaviour. My  
> question
> > >> is,
> > >> how would you set up the mac independently without sighted
> > >> assistance?
> > >> I had to have someone hit the start voice over assistive set up  
> thing
> > >> on my mac book when I got it. but if you don't have a monitor,  
> can
> > >> this be achieved some way? I've never reinstalled my leopard yet,
> > >> although I understand it can be done. simply, can I set up my mac
> > >> mini
> > >> without sighted assistance?
> > >> thanks Marie
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> >
> >
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Re: mac mini without monitor and set up

[Marie Howarth]

thanks for this Ester. so are you saying I couldn't actually plug a  
mac mini into a television? It is something I am wanting to do  
eventually when i move into my own place so I will be purchasing a new  
television or does it simply have to be a monitor? and I will check  
with apple about this also?

On Jul 28, 2009, at 12:25 AM, Esther wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> Marie, you might want to check whether running without a monitor will
> present a problem for the current generation Mac Mini and whether
> using an adapter helps at all in this case.  The reason for exercising
> some care here is that after the last round of discussions, where we
> hypothesized which new connector would work with the new model mini,
> additional information came to light that not only was the form factor
> of the video connector plug different, but it also passed signals in a
> different fashion. Previously, the connector passed analog signals,
> and it was not possible for your computer to check via the feedback
> whether or not your computer was connected to a monitor via that
> connector.  In the video out port connections of the new model mini,
> no analog signal gets passed and it's all digital.  That means it's
> possible for the system to check whether there is a monitor present at
> the other end.  Other features dependent on the connector have also
> changed, and I don't think you can play movies on a TV from your
> computer if you are using the new digital only video connector ports.
> That's not true of the older model Macs (or the older MacBooks).
>
> So far I don't think we have any users who report they're using the
> new Mini without a monitor (with or without an adapter at the end).
>
> HTH
>
> Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
> On Jul 27, 2009, at 13:10, Dan wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello,
>> When you start the machine for the first time, you will hear the
>> music. Then an announcement about if you already know how to use
>> VoiceOver, just press Command F5 to start VO. You can set it up
>> yourself. I have set up my different Macs without sighted assistance.
>> Dan
>> On Jul 27, 2009, at 4:02 PM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hey,
>>> I already have a macbook and I'm thinking of getting a mac mini. I
>>> know if you don't have the monitor you need the adapter to make the
>>> mini think there is one to prevent sluggish behaviour. My question
>>> is,
>>> how would you set up the mac independently without sighted
>>> assistance?
>>> I had to have someone hit the start voice over assistive set up  
>>> thing
>>> on my mac book when I got it. but if you don't have a monitor, can
>>> this be achieved some way? I've never reinstalled my leopard yet,
>>> although I understand it can be done. simply, can I set up my mac
>>> mini
>>> without sighted assistance?
>>> thanks Marie
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: mac mini without monitor and set up

[Marie Howarth]

thanks for this. not sure why mine didn't do this. but hopefullly when  
I get my mac mini it won't be so much trouble. :)

On Jul 28, 2009, at 12:10 AM, Dan wrote:

>
> Hello,
> When you start the machine for the first time, you will hear the
> music. Then an announcement about if you already know how to use
> VoiceOver, just press Command F5 to start VO. You can set it up
> yourself. I have set up my different Macs without sighted assistance.
> Dan
> On Jul 27, 2009, at 4:02 PM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey,
>> I already have a macbook and I'm thinking of getting a mac mini. I
>> know if you don't have the monitor you need the adapter to make the
>> mini think there is one to prevent sluggish behaviour. My question  
>> is,
>> how would you set up the mac independently without sighted  
>> assistance?
>> I had to have someone hit the start voice over assistive set up thing
>> on my mac book when I got it. but if you don't have a monitor, can
>> this be achieved some way? I've never reinstalled my leopard yet,
>> although I understand it can be done. simply, can I set up my mac  
>> mini
>> without sighted assistance?
>> thanks Marie
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
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mac mini without monitor and set up

[Marie Howarth]

Hey,
I already have a macbook and I'm thinking of getting a mac mini. I  
know if you don't have the monitor you need the adapter to make the  
mini think there is one to prevent sluggish behaviour. My question is,  
how would you set up the mac independently without sighted assistance?  
I had to have someone hit the start voice over assistive set up thing  
on my mac book when I got it. but if you don't have a monitor, can  
this be achieved some way? I've never reinstalled my leopard yet,  
although I understand it can be done. simply, can I set up my mac mini  
without sighted assistance?
thanks Marie


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anyone drag and drop on websites

[Marie Howarth]

I'm currently trying to edit a web page and cannot seem to get the  
drag and drop to work properly. Has anyone successfully done the drag  
and drop technique successfully?
thanks
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response from rogueamoeba

[Marie Howarth]

I use both audio high jack pro and just recently started using  
nicecast. both are very accessible programmes with the exception to  
the addition of the effects to a stream. With voice over, it is  
possible to add a single effect, just not more than that when the  
actual programmes both work on the basis multiple effects can be  
added. I wrote to the developers and here is the response I got.



Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Rogue Amoeba Support" 
> Date: July 27, 2009 2:46:36 PM BST
> To: marie.jane2...@gmail.com
> Subject: [RogueAmoeba #97236]: the effects area is virtually  
> inaccessible for more than one effect to be added to a session with  
> voice over for the mac
> Reply-To: audiohijack...@rogueamoeba.com
>
> Hi Marie,
>
> Thanks for the suggestion, I'll pass it along to the engineering  
> team who may contact you at a later time for further testing. For  
> now just let me know if you have any other questions.
>
> -Lee
>
> --
> Rogue Amoeba Support Technician
> he...@rogueamoeba.com
>
>  BE SURE TO REPLY ABOVE THIS LINE! 
> Ticket ID: 97236
> ===
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fixed it was aim acount on mail

[Marie Howarth]

just letting everyone know, I fixed my problem. just deleted it,  
started over. it's all working now. thanks for everyone's input  
though. :)
On Jul 25, 2009, at 7:30 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

>
> Hello;  If this is for an aol mmail account, they now offer pop 3
> access.  That is how i get my aol mail.  It was much easier to
> configure for sure.  Hope that helps, Max
> On Jul 25, 2009, at 9:47 AM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>
>>
>> OK, I confuse myself often lol.
>> I can send from the aim account in the mail app. But when I've
>> attempted to send an email from another account to test that the
>> account is working, it doesn't show up in mail. I checked on the web
>> based area for aim and all the tests I did are there. They are just
>> not landing in mail. Hope that was a little clearer. So I think
>> there's a connection issue from the server to the mail app.
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2009, at 3:41 PM, patrickneazer wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Marie and all:
>>>
>>> I do not believe I follow you. You are using apple mail and you can
>>> receive email. Am I correct so far?
>>>
>>> The trouble is that you are having difficulty receiving email?
>>>
>>> I lost you when you said you can see the mail on the web. Are you
>>> sending email somewhere else and then attempting to pull it back
>>> down or are you sending an email with a cc or bcc which is not
>>> getting through to you?
>>>
>>> Not wanting to be difficult just attempting to understand.
>>> On Jul 25, 2009, at 10:32 AM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> yes. I can send mail but receiving it is a problem. I've followed
>>>> several steps online instructions, and the email is going to the
>>>> account, I checked on the web.
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 25, 2009, at 3:29 PM, patrickneazer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Marie and all:
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you attempting to do this in apple mail?
>>>>> On Jul 25, 2009, at 10:24 AM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> has anyone set up an imap aim account with success? I can send
>>>>>> emails,
>>>>>> but it seems to not want to download from the server.
>>>>>> am I missing something?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Take good care and I wish you enough.
>>>>>
>>>>> Love
>>>>>
>>>>> Me
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Take good care and I wish you enough.
>>>
>>> Love
>>>
>>> Me
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
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Re: aim acount on mail

[Marie Howarth]

thanks, going to look into the pop3. this imap thing is just not  
working. I got it online but it keeps saying mail busy if I try to  
move past the aim inbox. This wasn't happening when it was offline and  
still no messages.

On Jul 25, 2009, at 7:30 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

>
> Hello;  If this is for an aol mmail account, they now offer pop 3
> access.  That is how i get my aol mail.  It was much easier to
> configure for sure.  Hope that helps, Max
> On Jul 25, 2009, at 9:47 AM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>
>>
>> OK, I confuse myself often lol.
>> I can send from the aim account in the mail app. But when I've
>> attempted to send an email from another account to test that the
>> account is working, it doesn't show up in mail. I checked on the web
>> based area for aim and all the tests I did are there. They are just
>> not landing in mail. Hope that was a little clearer. So I think
>> there's a connection issue from the server to the mail app.
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2009, at 3:41 PM, patrickneazer wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Marie and all:
>>>
>>> I do not believe I follow you. You are using apple mail and you can
>>> receive email. Am I correct so far?
>>>
>>> The trouble is that you are having difficulty receiving email?
>>>
>>> I lost you when you said you can see the mail on the web. Are you
>>> sending email somewhere else and then attempting to pull it back
>>> down or are you sending an email with a cc or bcc which is not
>>> getting through to you?
>>>
>>> Not wanting to be difficult just attempting to understand.
>>> On Jul 25, 2009, at 10:32 AM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> yes. I can send mail but receiving it is a problem. I've followed
>>>> several steps online instructions, and the email is going to the
>>>> account, I checked on the web.
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 25, 2009, at 3:29 PM, patrickneazer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Marie and all:
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you attempting to do this in apple mail?
>>>>> On Jul 25, 2009, at 10:24 AM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> has anyone set up an imap aim account with success? I can send
>>>>>> emails,
>>>>>> but it seems to not want to download from the server.
>>>>>> am I missing something?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Take good care and I wish you enough.
>>>>>
>>>>> Love
>>>>>
>>>>> Me
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Take good care and I wish you enough.
>>>
>>> Love
>>>
>>> Me
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: aim acount on mail

[Marie Howarth]

no, but I confused you :)
that part is working fine. it's emails coming in that well, are not  
coming in. :)
On Jul 25, 2009, at 4:17 PM, patrickneazer wrote:

> Hello Marie and all:
>
> This sounds like the evil smtp server problem (grin).
>
> Of course the questions you have heard all before most likely
>
> 1. is your smtp information correct ... the address ... proper port  
> numbers ... etc according to aim
>
> 2. Using the mail menus ... in particular ... the bring all accounts  
> online option in the mailbox menu ... have you checked to make sure  
> the accounts are online?
>
> 3. this next point might have absolutely nothing to do with this  
> though it might shed a little light on something. when you compose  
> an email ... before sending it use VO + left arrow to move to the  
> left  of the body of the message. You should hear ... from followed  
> by an email address pop up button. use VO + spacebar to click on  
> that button and see if you have other email addresses in that list.  
> If you have an aim address in that list ... select it and then move  
> to the right using VO + right arrow. you should hear it say ...  
> outgoing server. If it is not the server you think should be used  
> for the aim account use VO + spacebar to activate the pop up button  
> and see if you can find the appropriate server. If you find it ...  
> select it and then attempt to send the email.
>
> The reason I make that last suggestion because it will shed some  
> light as to whether or not mail is seeing things properly.
>
> I hope I have not confused the situation more than is necessary.
> On Jul 25, 2009, at 10:47 AM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>
>>
>> OK, I confuse myself often lol.
>> I can send from the aim account in the mail app. But when I've
>> attempted to send an email from another account to test that the
>> account is working, it doesn't show up in mail. I checked on the web
>> based area for aim and all the tests I did are there. They are just
>> not landing in mail. Hope that was a little clearer. So I think
>> there's a connection issue from the server to the mail app.
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2009, at 3:41 PM, patrickneazer wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Marie and all:
>>>
>>> I do not believe I follow you. You are using apple mail and you can
>>> receive email. Am I correct so far?
>>>
>>> The trouble is that you are having difficulty receiving email?
>>>
>>> I lost you when you said you can see the mail on the web. Are you
>>> sending email somewhere else and then attempting to pull it back
>>> down or are you sending an email with a cc or bcc which is not
>>> getting through to you?
>>>
>>> Not wanting to be difficult just attempting to understand.
>>> On Jul 25, 2009, at 10:32 AM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> yes. I can send mail but receiving it is a problem. I've followed
>>>> several steps online instructions, and the email is going to the
>>>> account, I checked on the web.
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 25, 2009, at 3:29 PM, patrickneazer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Marie and all:
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you attempting to do this in apple mail?
>>>>> On Jul 25, 2009, at 10:24 AM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> has anyone set up an imap aim account with success? I can send
>>>>>> emails,
>>>>>> but it seems to not want to download from the server.
>>>>>> am I missing something?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Take good care and I wish you enough.
>>>>>
>>>>> Love
>>>>>
>>>>> Me
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Take good care and I wish you enough.
>>>
>>> Love
>>>
>>> Me
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Take good care and I wish you enough.
>
> Love
>
> Me
>
>
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Re: aim acount on mail

[Marie Howarth]

OK, I confuse myself often lol.
I can send from the aim account in the mail app. But when I've  
attempted to send an email from another account to test that the  
account is working, it doesn't show up in mail. I checked on the web  
based area for aim and all the tests I did are there. They are just  
not landing in mail. Hope that was a little clearer. So I think  
there's a connection issue from the server to the mail app.

On Jul 25, 2009, at 3:41 PM, patrickneazer wrote:

> Hello Marie and all:
>
> I do not believe I follow you. You are using apple mail and you can  
> receive email. Am I correct so far?
>
> The trouble is that you are having difficulty receiving email?
>
> I lost you when you said you can see the mail on the web. Are you  
> sending email somewhere else and then attempting to pull it back  
> down or are you sending an email with a cc or bcc which is not  
> getting through to you?
>
> Not wanting to be difficult just attempting to understand.
> On Jul 25, 2009, at 10:32 AM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>
>>
>> yes. I can send mail but receiving it is a problem. I've followed
>> several steps online instructions, and the email is going to the
>> account, I checked on the web.
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2009, at 3:29 PM, patrickneazer wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Marie and all:
>>>
>>> Are you attempting to do this in apple mail?
>>> On Jul 25, 2009, at 10:24 AM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> has anyone set up an imap aim account with success? I can send
>>>> emails,
>>>> but it seems to not want to download from the server.
>>>> am I missing something?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Take good care and I wish you enough.
>>>
>>> Love
>>>
>>> Me
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Take good care and I wish you enough.
>
> Love
>
> Me
>
>
> >


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Re: aim acount on mail

[Marie Howarth]

yes. I can send mail but receiving it is a problem. I've followed  
several steps online instructions, and the email is going to the  
account, I checked on the web.

On Jul 25, 2009, at 3:29 PM, patrickneazer wrote:

> Hello Marie and all:
>
> Are you attempting to do this in apple mail?
> On Jul 25, 2009, at 10:24 AM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>
>>
>> has anyone set up an imap aim account with success? I can send  
>> emails,
>> but it seems to not want to download from the server.
>> am I missing something?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Take good care and I wish you enough.
>
> Love
>
> Me
>
>
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has anyone set up an imap aim account with success? I can send emails,  
but it seems to not want to download from the server.
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plug ins convertion

[Marie Howarth]

I exported a plug in from audio highjack and it is now in a plain text  
file. it has what appears the code in it, how do I get it to be an  
actual plug in? I know this is strictly not accessibility but this in  
a way could help users of audio high jack if only I can figure out how  
to convert the code to an actual plug in. any help off list would be  
great.
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Re: Purchasing Acapela Heather Voice

[Marie Howarth]

how much are these packages? :)

On Jul 25, 2009, at 12:38 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

>
> She is actually part of the u.s. or u.k. english package. You would
> need to purchase infovox ivox, which includes one language, and you
> can add other languages if you want. I have the u.s. and U.K. voices,
> and they work great with voiceover.
> On Jul 24, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Robert Carter wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am wanting to purchase the Acapela text to speech voice, Heather,
>> for my Mac. I was looking at assistiveware.com and it wasn't clear to
>> me what to purchase.
>>
>> Does anybody know how to get Heather and how much does she cost?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Robert Carter
>>
>>>
>
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Re: audio high jack and effects

[Marie Howarth]

thanks for that. using some spare eyes for now then. :)

On Jul 24, 2009, at 7:43 PM, Darcy Burnard wrote:

>
> Hi Marie.  Unfortunately the effects window in audio hijack pro does
> not work with VoiceOver.  From what I've heard, Rogue Amoeba is
> planning on completely re-writing this aspect of the program, so they
> have no plans to make it accessible as it is now.  I'm not sure when
> the new effects system will be released.
> Darcy
>
> On 24-Jul-09, at 7:04 AM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone is using the audio high jack pro with Voice
>> over and if there is a way to add mutiple affects to an audio stream.
>> I can click on the scroll area but as soon as I do it again, the
>> pervious affect goes away. am I doing something wrong with voice over
>> here?
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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audio high jack and effects

[Marie Howarth]

I was wondering if anyone is using the audio high jack pro with Voice  
over and if there is a way to add mutiple affects to an audio stream.  
I can click on the scroll area but as soon as I do it again, the  
pervious affect goes away. am I doing something wrong with voice over  
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Re: Playing Windows Media Content

[Marie Howarth]

all you need is flip for mac I believe. all avi files play for me now.  
and if I'm not mistaken, WMV too and WaV definitely play. it's just a  
plugin that works with itunes and stuff. I could be wrong but since I  
got flip for mac, all my windows content plays.
On Jul 20, 2009, at 12:38 AM, Mike wrote:

>
> Hi all:
>
> I downloaded Windows Media Player for Mac but it is in the form of an
> SITX File.
> I can't seem to get StuffIt unless I pay for a promo. LOL
> Any ideas on what other free utilities can do the job? Maybe there's
> another player that will work.
>
> TNX All:
>
> Mike
>
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Re: IPhone accessibility

[Marie Howarth]

the best thing I can say is try it. only you can truly know if it is  
for you or not. everyone is different, I love it and am thoroughly  
glad I bought it, but others may not find the experience the same.

On Jul 19, 2009, at 4:36 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

>
> Apart from the fact that the iPhone is thoroughly accessible at no
> extra cost, it is also a thing of beauty, and I, for one, love
> beautiful things!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
>
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Re: auto text on i phone

[Marie Howarth]

yes, in itunes uncheck the speak auto text in universal access.

On Jul 19, 2009, at 4:21 PM, william lomas wrote:

>
>   hi all, can the auto text on an i phone when typing 
> text be  
> disabled?
> asking on behalf of a friend who has the IPhone 3gS
>
>
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Re: IPhone accessibility

[Marie Howarth]

I use email, fring for IM, safari, weather app, clock, calendar,  
notes, fun apps such as the role playing games. Typing is down to  
personal preference iIMO. but I'm typing just fine, and enjoying it.

On Jul 18, 2009, at 2:25 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

>
> Hello Simon had a good question.  Now, I would like to add to it.
> Would the totally blind iphone users also tell us which of the
> features they are using.  I'm especially wanting to hear about emails
> or any feature where you have to type.  My brother tells me the two
> finger system that it uses makes it very easy to enter text, numbers,
> email addresses, etc.  Looking forward to your comments.  Thanks, Max
> On Jul 18, 2009, at 6:21 AM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm totally blind and using my iphone happily.
>> :)
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> Just wondering how many of you that are now using the Ipone 3gs, are
>>> totally blind rather than the partially / Visually impaired users.
>>>
>>> The device to me sounds more like it's for a VI person than a
>>> totally blind
>>> person.
>>>
>>> I'm total  and I'm trying to compare this for useage / accessibility
>>> against
>>> my Nokia s60 device.
>>> And as I've only had a very quick play with the IPhone 3gs I can't
>>> say I'm
>>> fixed on it yet.
>>> And I'm keen to hear how the totally blind users are getting on with
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Simonf.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
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Re: IPhone accessibility

[Marie Howarth]

I'm totally blind and using my iphone happily.
:)

On Jul 18, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

>
> Hi folks,
>
> Just wondering how many of you that are now using the Ipone 3gs, are
> totally blind rather than the partially / Visually impaired users.
>
> The device to me sounds more like it's for a VI person than a  
> totally blind
> person.
>
> I'm total  and I'm trying to compare this for useage / accessibility  
> against
> my Nokia s60 device.
> And as I've only had a very quick play with the IPhone 3gs I can't  
> say I'm
> fixed on it yet.
> And I'm keen to hear how the totally blind users are getting on with  
> it.
>
> Cheers
>
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>
>
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Re: Article Slamming the iPhone

[Marie Howarth]

I honestly think battery issues are across the board, so I personally  
would take VO out of the picture. some apps seem to use energy if  
they've been launched, I find this with those I use to connect to the  
web, I.E tweetaro, and some of the games. deactivating push when you  
don't need it helps and it would be nice to see the Iphone battery  
improve. But if I left my macbook running all day, I'd expect the  
battery to drain withing about four hours. lol.
the speech sometimes becomes garbled, but a quick five press of the  
sleep/wake button fixes it immediately.
I'm using mine effectively for day to day use, and now playing games  
on it which I could never do on the other phones I had.
I'm happy with it, and only reach for my old phone if someone  
contacted me on there, seen as that contract is not up yet. lol :)

On Jul 14, 2009, at 7:54 PM, James Dietz wrote:

>
> Hey,
>
> As I'm eventually looking into getting an iPhone (by which I mean next
> year when things may change once again) I'm glad to hear some of it's
> shortcomings. (everything has shortcomings) Out of curiosity: how has
> battery life been for voiceover users? I read that it you can get 8
> hours of continuous music-listening and something like 7 for web
> browsing. Are these figures lowered because the device is speaking
> nigh-constantly? I've already read about the speaker "problem" - that
> where the speaker activates as soon as you move the iPhone out of
> ear-proximity.  Anything else people haven't been so pleased with? I'm
> only trying to be negative because I've heard a lot about what the
> iPhone does well, and when I tried it out for the few minutes last
> weekend I did like it, but I'm interested in it's cons like I would be
> with *any* device.
>
> On 7/14/09, Scott Bresnahan  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I love the iPhone, but I have to disagree.  I
>> think both points have some merit.  The iPhone is
>> not for everyone..
>>
>> 1.  Multitasking is a short coming.  It's like
>> the Finder compared to the Multi-Finder in the
>> Mac Plus days.  Some technologies, ssh and irc
>> come to mind, will not work well on the iPhone.
>> We use a custom irc server to do real time IT
>> troubleshooting across our applications, and I
>> cannot keep my irc session alive while I use
>> Safari.  This is not the case on other phone
>> platforms and is a valid argument.  You can't say
>> that remembering your preferences and place in an
>> application is the same as background processing.
>>
>> 2.  Although you may have memorized the keypad,
>> it's not reasonable to assume everyone will or
>> can.   Which has a faster learning curve?  The
>> touch screen layout or the standard keypad?  I
>> say this only because part of the usefulness of a
>> device lies not with the expert user, but with
>> the casual user.   Personally, most of my numbers
>> are direct dials, so I don't have the memory for
>> the keypad due to lack of practice and everyday
>> use, but when I do need it, I struggle and yes, a
>> tactile keypad would be easier..  That said, I am
>> surviving.
>>
>>
>>
>> Finally, one more con on the iPhone is the
>> battery.  I can imagine several use cases where a
>> spare battery that's not an add on power pack
>> would be required for some users.  The iPhone is
>> designed for a certain work flow.  certain
>> patterns it is not good for.  I understood these
>> before I bought it, but don't dismiss them as the
>> Almighty iPhone is God, cause it's not.
>>
>> That said, I suggest the iPhone to everyone I
>> see.  Although I warn my colleagues about the
>> background and battery since I know that's an
>> issue based on their work.
>>
>> --Scott
>>
>>
>> address these comments. See my responses inline.
>>
>> On Jul 13, 2009, at 10:55 PM, william lomas wrote:
>>
>> 1. i can multi task on a symbian phone i can not on the iphone
>> 2. the thought of having to keep closing
>> application x to use application y will be
>> frustrating for symbian users, since i can have
>> the web and an sms window open at same time
>>
>> These are one thought broken into two points, so
>> I will address them as one. This is not a fair
>> assessment, or even an accurate one. While the iPhone does not  
>> technically
>> perform multi-tasking, it proides the same functionality. You can  
>> quickly
>> switch between apps on the iPhone, and iPhone apps are designed to  
>> remember
>> where they were when you left them.
>> The upshot of this is, therefore, that you get
>> the illusion of multi-tasking with all its
>> benefits, without the performance hit. This
>> argument is a flawed one, that is based on a
>> misunderstanding of the iPhone and its operation.
>>
>>
>> 3. Using speech on a call on a symbian phone is
>> in my view easier since if one dials numbers for
>> an automated system, it is easier I think in my
>> view, to type the number on a keypad, rather than
>> having to mess around finding it on a dial pad etc
>>
>>
>> The buttons on the iPhone's keypa

Re: Article Slamming the iPhone

[Marie Howarth]

exactly. and my old simbien phone that ran talks, used to complain  
constantly about me having too many apps open when I only had the  
menu, short cut menu, which were open by default and another app,  
constantly had to reboot my phone. hurray for Iphone.

On Jul 14, 2009, at 6:57 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:

> Just want to address these comments. See my responses inline.
>
> On Jul 13, 2009, at 10:55 PM, william lomas wrote:
>> 1. i can multi task on a symbian phone i can not on the iphone
>> 2. the thought of having to keep closing application x to use  
>> application y will be frustrating for symbian users, since i can  
>> have the web and an sms window open at same time
>>
> These are one thought broken into two points, so I will address them  
> as one. This is not a fair assessment, or even an accurate one.  
> While the iPhone does not technically perform multi-tasking, it  
> proides the same functionality. You can quickly switch between apps  
> on the iPhone, and iPhone apps are designed to remember where they  
> were when you left them. The upshot of this is, therefore, that you  
> get the illusion of multi-tasking with all its benefits, without the  
> performance hit. This argument is a flawed one, that is based on a  
> misunderstanding of the iPhone and its operation.
>
>
>> 3. Using speech on a call on a symbian phone is in my view easier  
>> since if one dials numbers for an automated system, it is easier I  
>> think in my view, to type the number on a keypad, rather than  
>> having to mess around finding it on a dial pad etc
>
> The buttons on the iPhone's keypad are large and do not move around.  
> I do not search for them anymore. It's a different experience, and  
> it takes a small amount of practice. However, it is no harder or  
> easier, once you have learned to use it properly, than a physical  
> keypad.
>
> Josh de Lioncourt
>   …my other mail provider is an owl…
>
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt
> Music: http://stage19music.com
> Mac-cessibility: http://www.Lioncourt.com
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Re: Article Slamming the iPhone

[Marie Howarth]

the phone is meant to be how it was designed, no adaptive techy stuff  
is needed. There's no need to adapt it, it works! I'm sure if I didn't  
have the bumps on my f and j keys on my comp, I'd still find the keys,  
voice feedback. if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

On Jul 13, 2009, at 11:15 PM, Larry Wanger wrote:

> I've been trying to get my head around an idea of creating a screen  
> cover with markings or even Braille on it for the keyboard. The  
> problem though for starters is that the keyboard changes and is  
> contextual. In some text fields, where you're entering email  
> addresses for example, the keyboard adds the period, @ sign and even  
> a .com button. In other cases those symbols are not present on the  
> main keyboard and you need to hit the more button to access these  
> functions. Therefore, I think creating an overlay would be  
> challenging but its something I've thought of.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 1:45 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Article Slamming the iPhone
>
>
>
> With the Iphone, can bumps be put on the spots where the F and J  
> keys are supposed to be?  If not, I could see why it would take some  
> people a little too long to find the virtual home row.  If somebody  
> can't find the home row, it will probably be a struggle to type each  
> key.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 13, 2009, at 1:18 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> What I'd like to ask all these folks saying the iPhone is so  
> inefficient is: How efficient were you three weeks after the first  
> time you ever touched a QWERTY keyboard? It's a whole new model for  
> human interface interaction. After three weeks, I have no problems  
> just touching the battery status, or really much of anything else.  
> Things are not hard to find. They do not move around, and the flick  
> method of navigation is great when you are having trouble with a  
> brand-new and unfamiliar screen.
>
>
>
> Sitting with an iPhone for an hour and then declaring it slow,  
> inefficient, and difficult to navigate is just silly. :) The ever  
> growing number of VI iPhone users will tell you the same. Sure, it  
> takes time to be comfortable. Once you are, it's fantastic. :)
>
>
> Josh de Lioncourt
>
> …my other mail provider is an owl…
>
>
>
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt
>
> Music: http://stage19music.com
>
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>
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>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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Re: Apple could release a touch tablet device as early as October

[Marie Howarth]

hmm, not that interested in a tablet, not for my personal use. as I  
said to my BF earlier today, my iphone is all I need while out and  
about and my macbook13 is small enough if I need to carry a portable  
computer. but hey if they do, I'm sure others would like it.

On Jul 13, 2009, at 10:18 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

> Folks, this might be interesting to some and in fact I recall a  
> rumor a while back that VZW would be interested in such a device.  
> THe only bummer in my opinion is you can't shove this into your  
> pocket unless you got some mighty big pockets. I think I'd rather  
> have an iPhone, but this would be interesting if it comes to be and  
> I wonder what type of processor and ram it would have. So, make of  
> this what you will and enjoy. Oh and remember this is all still  
> speculation based purely on rumor.
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> Date: July 13, 2009 1:14:00 PM EDT
>> Subject: Apple could release a touch tablet device as early as  
>> October
>> Source: MacFixIt
>>
>> According to a cavalcade of Mac rumor blogs and Web sites, Apple  
>> could be planning on releasing a touch screen tablet device as  
>> early as this October, pairing nicely with the expected Snow  
>> Leopard release and iPod updates.
>> Read more…
>>
>
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Re: navigon lite

[Marie Howarth]

it's good to see if it works though. I'm using the light version in  
the UK until I can afford the full version, and it gives us all an  
idea on how we can use it without spending the money first. I like this.

On Jul 13, 2009, at 9:36 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> Yup. Apparently the 'lite' version is little more than a demo in  
> that it doesn't let you route from where you are to some point. It  
> has a 'simulation' button which will go from someplace near by to  
> the point you picked, but that's not really useful.
>
> CB
>
> May and Wynter wrote:
>>
>> Hey Rustle there is a version called navigon lite that works with  
>> the IPhone for North America.
>>
>> I tried it out for a little while to see what if offered.  For our  
>> North American version there's no gps coverage yet. So if you  
>> wanted to use it for routes while you're actually walking and  
>> outside it won't work.  But if you wanted to plan a trip and get  
>> directions before you left it does that very well.  Hope tha made  
>> sense.
>>
>> May and Wynter with a y
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>>
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Re: Article Slamming the iPhone

[Marie Howarth]

yeah, I whole heartedly agree. I'm a little tired of the impatience by  
some. The technology works, if it didn't, everyone would be  
complaining. it takes time and you didn't know every hidden feature of  
a mac/PC or a screen reader within a few days or weeks, did you?

On Jul 13, 2009, at 6:18 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:

>
> What I'd like to ask all these folks saying the iPhone is so  
> inefficient is: How efficient were you three weeks after the first  
> time you ever touched a QWERTY keyboard? It's a whole new model for  
> human interface interaction. After three weeks, I have no problems  
> just touching the battery status, or really much of anything else.  
> Things are not hard to find. They do not move around, and the flick  
> method of navigation is great when you are having trouble with a  
> brand-new and unfamiliar screen.
>
> Sitting with an iPhone for an hour and then declaring it slow,  
> inefficient, and difficult to navigate is just silly. :) The ever  
> growing number of VI iPhone users will tell you the same. Sure, it  
> takes time to be comfortable. Once you are, it's fantastic. :)
>
> Josh de Lioncourt
>   …my other mail provider is an owl…
>
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Re: slide shows

[Marie Howarth]

not a problem, I haven't messed with that too much. but I would just  
reccomment playing around with it. it's a fun app. :)

On Jul 13, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

>
> Great timing;  I just showed my first effort to the family, and they
> said it was great.  I think my musical choice could have been better,
> but I don't have much music in my itunes folder.  It isn't easy
> finding sound files.  Every time i search, I find them; but they want
> you to pay for them as if they are full quality production music.  But
> I'll keep looking.  I'm also trying to find some good calliope music
> for obvious reasons.  I may have to just break down and buy a couple c
> d's. lol  Thanks for the help.  The only thing i did wrong is I didn't
> realize that the default for photo order is date and time and not file
> name.  So, even though i renamed the files in the folder before i
> started, that wasn't the order.  I had to delete the album resort the
> photos by name and then start over.  But if figure two full tries is a
> lot better than i expected when i first read your email.  Ok, now,
> what size do you set your photos to i mean dimensions.  I checked the
> file size of the mov file i outputted and its rather large for a
> minute and 26 seconds.  Any suggestions how i could trim that down for
> uploading purposes?  Thanks again, you've been a big help.  Max
> On Jul 13, 2009, at 9:27 AM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>
>>
>> nope, that is how I would do it. and you always know if you vo--
>> shift--
>> right arrow and it tells you how many items there are if you've got
>> all your photos. I do believe scary music can be very fun and if you
>> find any downloads, just import it into itunes and it is completely
>> searchable when choosing your music. Personally not sure where you
>> could find this kind of thing, but hope you have fun with Iphoto. I
>> personally love it. have made a slide show, well continue to do so of
>> my nephew and my guide dog :)
>>
>> On Jul 13, 2009, at 2:32 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello;  Thank for getting me started.  I do think that either I
>>> didn't
>>> hear all the steps or you left some out.  Let me tell you what i  
>>> did,
>>> and you can tell me if I made it harder than it should have been.  I
>>> chose import to library, selected my folder, and clicked to accept.
>>> Then I went to the list of photos and did a select all.  Then I did
>>> new albumn where it prompted me with types of albumns and i chose
>>> slide show.  Then it took me to a combination preview and settings
>>> page.  I chose a piece of music and changed the rate to five  
>>> seconds.
>>> Cant wait til my sighted family gets up so i can ask them what they
>>> think.  Oh yeh, I exported it as a quicktime movie, and it plays.  I
>>> don't know why but it never seamed even this easy the first few  
>>> times
>>> I tried messing with it.  Since you have more experience, can you
>>> suggest some settings to stay away from and why?  Also, once i get
>>> the
>>> go ahead from family, I need to create a slide show for business.   
>>> It
>>> will be of a ride through haunted house or dark ride as most people
>>> call them and I'll need some scary music or sound effects files.
>>> Would you know a good place to look for stuff like that?  I can't
>>> wait
>>> to post my first one to my website and show people some more of the
>>> things they get when posting their equipment with me.  Thanks a lot,
>>> Max  hugs hope i'm not hugging a guy this publicly?  oh well it  
>>> would
>>> be worth it
>>> On Jul 13, 2009, at 2:37 AM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I use iphoto quite easily. and I only have Ilife 8. you just have  
>>>> to
>>>> ensure your photos are labelled in folders that you want to add and
>>>> in
>>>> the import folder where new imports are, copy and paste into a new
>>>> slide show, hey presto, it's easy. I've made severeal already. with
>>>> music and fancy things. :)
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 13, 2009, at 2:51 AM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello;  I believe i asked this a while back.  But since then a new
>>>>> version of ilife has come out.  Can anyone suggest a simple  
>>>>> program
>>>>> for creating a slide show on my mac?  Is the newer version of
>>>>> iphoto
>>>>> accessible enough that I could do it that way?  As most people a
>>>>> cheap
>>>>> or free solution would be preferred.  Thanks in advance, Max
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
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Re: slide shows

[Marie Howarth]

nope, that is how I would do it. and you always know if you vo--shift-- 
right arrow and it tells you how many items there are if you've got  
all your photos. I do believe scary music can be very fun and if you  
find any downloads, just import it into itunes and it is completely  
searchable when choosing your music. Personally not sure where you  
could find this kind of thing, but hope you have fun with Iphoto. I  
personally love it. have made a slide show, well continue to do so of  
my nephew and my guide dog :)

On Jul 13, 2009, at 2:32 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

>
> Hello;  Thank for getting me started.  I do think that either I didn't
> hear all the steps or you left some out.  Let me tell you what i did,
> and you can tell me if I made it harder than it should have been.  I
> chose import to library, selected my folder, and clicked to accept.
> Then I went to the list of photos and did a select all.  Then I did
> new albumn where it prompted me with types of albumns and i chose
> slide show.  Then it took me to a combination preview and settings
> page.  I chose a piece of music and changed the rate to five seconds.
> Cant wait til my sighted family gets up so i can ask them what they
> think.  Oh yeh, I exported it as a quicktime movie, and it plays.  I
> don't know why but it never seamed even this easy the first few times
> I tried messing with it.  Since you have more experience, can you
> suggest some settings to stay away from and why?  Also, once i get the
> go ahead from family, I need to create a slide show for business.  It
> will be of a ride through haunted house or dark ride as most people
> call them and I'll need some scary music or sound effects files.
> Would you know a good place to look for stuff like that?  I can't wait
> to post my first one to my website and show people some more of the
> things they get when posting their equipment with me.  Thanks a lot,
> Max  hugs hope i'm not hugging a guy this publicly?  oh well it would
> be worth it
> On Jul 13, 2009, at 2:37 AM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>
>>
>> I use iphoto quite easily. and I only have Ilife 8. you just have to
>> ensure your photos are labelled in folders that you want to add and  
>> in
>> the import folder where new imports are, copy and paste into a new
>> slide show, hey presto, it's easy. I've made severeal already. with
>> music and fancy things. :)
>>
>> On Jul 13, 2009, at 2:51 AM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello;  I believe i asked this a while back.  But since then a new
>>> version of ilife has come out.  Can anyone suggest a simple program
>>> for creating a slide show on my mac?  Is the newer version of iphoto
>>> accessible enough that I could do it that way?  As most people a
>>> cheap
>>> or free solution would be preferred.  Thanks in advance, Max
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
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Re: Sensspace

[Marie Howarth]

yes it does. and you found it easy to use? really, I find the wizard a  
nightmare.

On Jul 13, 2009, at 12:17 PM, william lomas wrote:

>
> very it even tells you its upoad progress
> but I thik you ned a max account I do not know if it lets one upload a
> file with a free account
>
> On 13 Jul 2009, at 12:00, James & Nash wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> How accessible is the SendSpace Wizard with VO?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> James
>>
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Re: slide shows

[Marie Howarth]

I use iphoto quite easily. and I only have Ilife 8. you just have to  
ensure your photos are labelled in folders that you want to add and in  
the import folder where new imports are, copy and paste into a new  
slide show, hey presto, it's easy. I've made severeal already. with  
music and fancy things. :)

On Jul 13, 2009, at 2:51 AM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

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> Hello;  I believe i asked this a while back.  But since then a new
> version of ilife has come out.  Can anyone suggest a simple program
> for creating a slide show on my mac?  Is the newer version of iphoto
> accessible enough that I could do it that way?  As most people a cheap
> or free solution would be preferred.  Thanks in advance, Max
>
> >


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