Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Scott Granados]

Simon, in some cases we take 440V in 3 phase and then break it out or most 
homes take 220 single phase and break out in to 110 V legs inside the home.  I 
wonder if in areas with the higher voltage if you actually see 880 3 phase?  I 
don’t think it works that way but I’m not sure.

Totally off topic so I’ll stop here but it’s very interesting the history of 
how we arrived at these standards.  Real blood baths in business in some cases.

Ah well, bottom line folks, be careful but not fearful.

> On May 19, 2016, at 5:38 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Bloody soft americans!
> 
> Try 240V when your not expecting it.
> 
> None of that soft 110V stuff,
> 
> Mind you either way it still makes you open your eyes a bit wider.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
> Sent: Thursday, 19 May 2016 12:28 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables
> 
>   Exactly. Electricity is no laughing matter. Most of us probably know what 
> 110 AC feel;s like. I know what 220 fee;ls like. Then there was the
> 15-20,000 jolt I received one time. Not a pleasant experience. A 12 volt car 
> battery can and does kill under the right conditions.
> 
>   So yes, this is not a subject to take lightly and promote more 
> misinformation. That is why I spoke up.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 5/18/2016 5:00 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Actually you’re both right.:)
>> 
>> I think it’s good to be correct because there’s so much misinformation
>> out there.  After all with all the misinformation and garbage out
>> there we end up with things like Trump and Hillary as our only
>> options. hahaha (ok maybe a bit over stated)
>> 
>> On the flip side, Chris, I’ll never give anyone a hard time for being
>> on the safe side when it comes to this topic.  You never know who
>> you’re talking to so they may for some reason think that the same
>> logic that applies to your USB cable applies to your power cord or
>> your toaster oven to be a bit extreme so being careful is also a good
>> thing.  So let’s call it the best of both worlds, your warning
>> combined with mine and others over analysis.:)
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 18, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Shruggs.  Aaaarg!  I was trying, to make a point, ey?  Do we have to 
>>> scientifically be so politically correct?  The point I was trying to make 
>>> was, if you're in doubt about getting shocked from a defected cord, don't 
>>> risk it.  LOL!  Smile.
>>> ---
>>> Christopher Gilland
>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>> Training Instructor.
>>> 
>>> clgillan...@gmail.com
>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>> - Original Message - From: "E.T." <ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:12 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Voltage does not kill, current kills.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were
>>> true?
>>> 
>>> On 5/18/2016 1:09 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>>> Again, that said, I'd not chance it though. There's always that one
>>>> in a billion time glitch.
>>>> ---
>>>> Christopher Gilland
>>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>>> Training Instructor.
>>>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
>>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>>> 
>>>>   - Original Message -
>>>>   *From:* Scott <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>
>>>>   *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>   <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>   *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:59 AM
>>>>   *Subject:* Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables
>>>> 
>>>>   Chris, you’re correct, that power s very low.  The voltage is maybe
>>>>   + or - 5V and even the power leads carrying the phone charging juice
>>>>   carry a small amount and the current is quite low.  No shocks there,
>>>>   not even with wet hands I don’t think.
>>>> 
>>>>>   On May

Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Scott Granados]

Simon, in some cases we take 440V in 3 phase and then break it out or most 
homes take 220 single phase and break out in to 110 V legs inside the home.  I 
wonder if in areas with the higher voltage if you actually see 880 3 phase?  I 
don’t think it works that way but I’m not sure.

Totally off topic so I’ll stop here but it’s very interesting the history of 
how we arrived at these standards.  Real blood baths in business in some cases.

Ah well, bottom line folks, be careful but not fearful.

> On May 19, 2016, at 5:38 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Bloody soft americans!
> 
> Try 240V when your not expecting it.
> 
> None of that soft 110V stuff,
> 
> Mind you either way it still makes you open your eyes a bit wider.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
> Sent: Thursday, 19 May 2016 12:28 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables
> 
>   Exactly. Electricity is no laughing matter. Most of us probably know what 
> 110 AC feel;s like. I know what 220 fee;ls like. Then there was the
> 15-20,000 jolt I received one time. Not a pleasant experience. A 12 volt car 
> battery can and does kill under the right conditions.
> 
>   So yes, this is not a subject to take lightly and promote more 
> misinformation. That is why I spoke up.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 5/18/2016 5:00 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Actually you’re both right.:)
>> 
>> I think it’s good to be correct because there’s so much misinformation
>> out there.  After all with all the misinformation and garbage out
>> there we end up with things like Trump and Hillary as our only
>> options. hahaha (ok maybe a bit over stated)
>> 
>> On the flip side, Chris, I’ll never give anyone a hard time for being
>> on the safe side when it comes to this topic.  You never know who
>> you’re talking to so they may for some reason think that the same
>> logic that applies to your USB cable applies to your power cord or
>> your toaster oven to be a bit extreme so being careful is also a good
>> thing.  So let’s call it the best of both worlds, your warning
>> combined with mine and others over analysis.:)
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 18, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Shruggs.  Aaaarg!  I was trying, to make a point, ey?  Do we have to 
>>> scientifically be so politically correct?  The point I was trying to make 
>>> was, if you're in doubt about getting shocked from a defected cord, don't 
>>> risk it.  LOL!  Smile.
>>> ---
>>> Christopher Gilland
>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>> Training Instructor.
>>> 
>>> clgillan...@gmail.com
>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>> - Original Message - From: "E.T." <ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:12 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Voltage does not kill, current kills.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were
>>> true?
>>> 
>>> On 5/18/2016 1:09 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>>> Again, that said, I'd not chance it though. There's always that one
>>>> in a billion time glitch.
>>>> ---
>>>> Christopher Gilland
>>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>>> Training Instructor.
>>>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
>>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>>> 
>>>>   - Original Message -
>>>>   *From:* Scott <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>
>>>>   *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>   <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>   *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:59 AM
>>>>   *Subject:* Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables
>>>> 
>>>>   Chris, you’re correct, that power s very low.  The voltage is maybe
>>>>   + or - 5V and even the power leads carrying the phone charging juice
>>>>   carry a small amount and the current is quite low.  No shocks there,
>>>>   not even with wet hands I don’t think.
>>>> 
>>>>>   On May

RE: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Simon Fogarty]

Bloody soft americans!

 Try 240V when your not expecting it.

 None of that soft 110V stuff, 

Mind you either way it still makes you open your eyes a bit wider.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Thursday, 19 May 2016 12:28 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

Exactly. Electricity is no laughing matter. Most of us probably know what 
110 AC feel;s like. I know what 220 fee;ls like. Then there was the
15-20,000 jolt I received one time. Not a pleasant experience. A 12 volt car 
battery can and does kill under the right conditions.

So yes, this is not a subject to take lightly and promote more 
misinformation. That is why I spoke up.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 5/18/2016 5:00 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> Actually you’re both right.:)
>
> I think it’s good to be correct because there’s so much misinformation 
> out there.  After all with all the misinformation and garbage out 
> there we end up with things like Trump and Hillary as our only 
> options. hahaha (ok maybe a bit over stated)
>
> On the flip side, Chris, I’ll never give anyone a hard time for being 
> on the safe side when it comes to this topic.  You never know who 
> you’re talking to so they may for some reason think that the same 
> logic that applies to your USB cable applies to your power cord or 
> your toaster oven to be a bit extreme so being careful is also a good 
> thing.  So let’s call it the best of both worlds, your warning 
> combined with mine and others over analysis.:)
>
>
>> On May 18, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Shruggs.  Aaaarg!  I was trying, to make a point, ey?  Do we have to 
>> scientifically be so politically correct?  The point I was trying to make 
>> was, if you're in doubt about getting shocked from a defected cord, don't 
>> risk it.  LOL!  Smile.
>> ---
>> Christopher Gilland
>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>> Training Instructor.
>>
>> clgillan...@gmail.com
>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>> - Original Message - From: "E.T." <ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables
>>
>>
>>Voltage does not kill, current kills.
>>
>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>> true?
>>
>> On 5/18/2016 1:09 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>> Again, that said, I'd not chance it though. There's always that one 
>>> in a billion time glitch.
>>> ---
>>> Christopher Gilland
>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>> Training Instructor.
>>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> *From:* Scott <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>
>>> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:59 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables
>>>
>>> Chris, you’re correct, that power s very low.  The voltage is maybe
>>> + or - 5V and even the power leads carrying the phone charging juice
>>> carry a small amount and the current is quite low.  No shocks there,
>>> not even with wet hands I don’t think.
>>>
>>>> On May 16, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ben,
>>>> I highly doubt you would a gotten shocked, as normally the voltage
>>>> transferred via USB is very very small, plus with the number of
>>>> amps, it would be very unlikely.  Now, disclaimer!  that said? I
>>>> never said not to be careful!  If you felt uneasy attempting to
>>>> use the cord, then yes.  It was probably best that you didn't.  I
>>>> never said there wouldn't be that one in a million time chance
>>>> you'd get zizzied.
>>>> ---
>>>> Christopher Gilland
>>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>>> Training Instructor.
>>>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
&

Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[E.T.]

   Exactly. Electricity is no laughing matter. Most of us probably know 
what 110 AC feel;s like. I know what 220 fee;ls like. Then there was the 
15-20,000 jolt I received one time. Not a pleasant experience. A 12 volt 
car battery can and does kill under the right conditions.


   So yes, this is not a subject to take lightly and promote more 
misinformation. That is why I spoke up.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 5/18/2016 5:00 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Actually you’re both right.:)

I think it’s good to be correct because there’s so much misinformation out 
there.  After all with all the misinformation and garbage out there we end up 
with things like Trump and Hillary as our only options. hahaha (ok maybe a bit 
over stated)

On the flip side, Chris, I’ll never give anyone a hard time for being on the 
safe side when it comes to this topic.  You never know who you’re talking to so 
they may for some reason think that the same logic that applies to your USB 
cable applies to your power cord or your toaster oven to be a bit extreme so 
being careful is also a good thing.  So let’s call it the best of both worlds, 
your warning combined with mine and others over analysis.:)



On May 18, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Shruggs.  Aaaarg!  I was trying, to make a point, ey?  Do we have to 
scientifically be so politically correct?  The point I was trying to make was, 
if you're in doubt about getting shocked from a defected cord, don't risk it.  
LOL!  Smile.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - From: "E.T." <ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables


   Voltage does not kill, current kills.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 5/18/2016 1:09 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Again, that said, I'd not chance it though. There's always that one in a
billion time glitch.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.
clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
Phone: (704) 256-8010.

- Original Message -
*From:* Scott <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:59 AM
*Subject:* Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

Chris, you’re correct, that power s very low.  The voltage is maybe
+ or - 5V and even the power leads carrying the phone charging juice
carry a small amount and the current is quite low.  No shocks there,
not even with wet hands I don’t think.


On May 16, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Ben,
I highly doubt you would a gotten shocked, as normally the voltage
transferred via USB is very very small, plus with the number of
amps, it would be very unlikely.  Now, disclaimer!  that said? I
never said not to be careful!  If you felt uneasy attempting to
use the cord, then yes.  It was probably best that you didn't.  I
never said there wouldn't be that one in a million time chance
you'd get zizzied.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.
clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
Phone: (704) 256-8010.

- Original Message -
*From:*Ben J. Bloomgren <mailto:ben.j.bloomg...@gmail.com>
*To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:*Sunday, May 15, 2016 11:02 PM
*Subject:*Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

Okay, I have not seen it happen in a couple of months, but the
cable which originally came with my old iPhone Five did degrade
to the point at which I was scared that I'd get shocked or it'd
mess up the phone in some way. The chord to my iPhone Six S
hasn't seemed to do that yet, but I'm paranoid due to my previous
experience. Chris, you may have an aberration, but Apple does
need to rethink the Lightning chords, if they want to maintain
their proprietary ways.

Ben

On 5/13/2016 16:22, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.
Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use
lightning cables.  Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S,
a few Apple TV 4's, etc.
Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months roughly, it
seems like the end of the insolation right where the lightning
connector is that goes into th

Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Scott Granados]

Actually you’re both right.:)

I think it’s good to be correct because there’s so much misinformation out 
there.  After all with all the misinformation and garbage out there we end up 
with things like Trump and Hillary as our only options. hahaha (ok maybe a bit 
over stated)

On the flip side, Chris, I’ll never give anyone a hard time for being on the 
safe side when it comes to this topic.  You never know who you’re talking to so 
they may for some reason think that the same logic that applies to your USB 
cable applies to your power cord or your toaster oven to be a bit extreme so 
being careful is also a good thing.  So let’s call it the best of both worlds, 
your warning combined with mine and others over analysis.:)


> On May 18, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Shruggs.  Aaaarg!  I was trying, to make a point, ey?  Do we have to 
> scientifically be so politically correct?  The point I was trying to make 
> was, if you're in doubt about getting shocked from a defected cord, don't 
> risk it.  LOL!  Smile.
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
> 
> clgillan...@gmail.com
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
> - Original Message - From: "E.T." <ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables
> 
> 
>   Voltage does not kill, current kills.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 5/18/2016 1:09 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> Again, that said, I'd not chance it though. There's always that one in a
>> billion time glitch.
>> ---
>> Christopher Gilland
>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>> Training Instructor.
>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>> 
>>- Original Message -
>>*From:* Scott <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>
>>*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>><mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>*Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:59 AM
>>*Subject:* Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables
>> 
>>Chris, you’re correct, that power s very low.  The voltage is maybe
>>+ or - 5V and even the power leads carrying the phone charging juice
>>carry a small amount and the current is quite low.  No shocks there,
>>not even with wet hands I don’t think.
>> 
>>>On May 16, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
>>><clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>Ben,
>>>I highly doubt you would a gotten shocked, as normally the voltage
>>>transferred via USB is very very small, plus with the number of
>>>amps, it would be very unlikely.  Now, disclaimer!  that said? I
>>>never said not to be careful!  If you felt uneasy attempting to
>>>use the cord, then yes.  It was probably best that you didn't.  I
>>>never said there wouldn't be that one in a million time chance
>>>you'd get zizzied.
>>>---
>>>Christopher Gilland
>>>JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>>Training Instructor.
>>>clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
>>>Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>>>- Original Message -
>>>>*From:*Ben J. Bloomgren <mailto:ben.j.bloomg...@gmail.com>
>>>>*To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>><mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>*Sent:*Sunday, May 15, 2016 11:02 PM
>>>>*Subject:*Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables
>>>> 
>>>>Okay, I have not seen it happen in a couple of months, but the
>>>>cable which originally came with my old iPhone Five did degrade
>>>>to the point at which I was scared that I'd get shocked or it'd
>>>>mess up the phone in some way. The chord to my iPhone Six S
>>>>hasn't seemed to do that yet, but I'm paranoid due to my previous
>>>>experience. Chris, you may have an aberration, but Apple does
>>>>need to rethink the Lightning chords, if they want to maintain
>>>>their proprietary ways.
>>>> 
>>>>Ben
>>>> 
>>>>On 5/13/2016 16:22, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>>>>OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.
>>>>>Over the years, I've bou

Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Scott Granados]

Nah, no risk, it’s not like phantom power or anything you’re familiar with from 
the music side of course, it’s extremely low on both the voltage and amperage 
side.  As someone else pointed out, it’s the amps that kill.  I know personally 
I’ve been hit with more than a half million volts conservatively playing with 
tesla coils and static generators so I can definitely confirm this.;)  The 
voltage will give you the nice pretty blue sparks and the potential to jump 
across arcs but the current or the number of electrons actually flowing is the 
thing that will make you taste your fillings.:)  (and I’ve done that too, far 
less enjoyable)  While half a megavolt at a fraction of a milliamp can be a lot 
of fun I absolutely can certify that 440 volts at 400 amps is absolutely with 
out fun other than to say I’ve done it and have the burned shirt to prove it.  
Luckily it was just the back of my hand.  By far the ugliest situation I’m 
aware of that illustrates this point is what happened when someone I know 
dropped a wrench across a 12 volt bus.  Not so bad other than the amperage was 
in the thousands.  It was the main battery bus from a battery array in a 
submarine.  Evaporated the wrench and a good part of this person’s arm not to 
mention caused permanent hearing loss.

You’re absolutely right to respect electricity but in this case, one thing I 
can say for sure is these low power data connections are very safe.

And don’t fear electricity, just respect it and understand it.  It really is 
fun to play with.






> On May 18, 2016, at 4:09 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Again, that said, I'd not chance it though.  There's always that one in a 
> billion time glitch.
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
> 
> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Scott <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables
>> 
>> Chris, you’re correct, that power s very low.  The voltage is maybe + or - 
>> 5V and even the power leads carrying the phone charging juice carry a small 
>> amount and the current is quite low.  No shocks there, not even with wet 
>> hands I don’t think.
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ben,
>>> 
>>> I highly doubt you would a gotten shocked, as normally the voltage 
>>> transferred via USB is very very small, plus with the number of amps, it 
>>> would be very unlikely.  Now, disclaimer!  that said? I never said not to 
>>> be careful!  If you felt uneasy attempting to use the cord, then yes.  It 
>>> was probably best that you didn't.  I never said there wouldn't be that one 
>>> in a million time chance you'd get zizzied.
>>> ---
>>> Christopher Gilland
>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>> Training Instructor.
>>> 
>>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: Ben J. Bloomgren <mailto:ben.j.bloomg...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 11:02 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables
>>>> 
>>>> Okay, I have not seen it happen in a couple of months, but the cable which 
>>>> originally came with my old iPhone Five did degrade to the point at which 
>>>> I was scared that I'd get shocked or it'd mess up the phone in some way. 
>>>> The chord to my iPhone Six S hasn't seemed to do that yet, but I'm 
>>>> paranoid due to my previous experience. Chris, you may have an aberration, 
>>>> but Apple does need to rethink the Lightning chords, if they want to 
>>>> maintain their proprietary ways.
>>>> 
>>>> Ben
>>>> 
>>>> On 5/13/2016 16:22, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>>>> OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use lightning 
>>>>> cables.  Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S, a few Apple TV 
>>>>> 4's, etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months

Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

You're right, good grief.  I wasn't getting an attitude.

Don't take it so personally.  I was just giving you a hard time.  Did you 
not see, I wrote, "LOL!  Smile" in my message?

---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
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From: "E.T." <ancient.ali...@icloud.com>

To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables


 Good grief. The delete key is your friend. (smiles)

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On 5/18/2016 1:37 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Shruggs.  Aaaarg!  I was trying, to make a point, ey?  Do we have to
scientifically be so politically correct?  The point I was trying to
make was, if you're in doubt about getting shocked from a defected cord,
don't risk it.  LOL!  Smile.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - From: "E.T." <ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables


Voltage does not kill, current kills.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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in the past. What if it were true?

On 5/18/2016 1:09 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Again, that said, I'd not chance it though. There's always that one in a
billion time glitch.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.
clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
Phone: (704) 256-8010.

- Original Message -
*From:* Scott <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
    *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:59 AM
*Subject:* Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

Chris, you’re correct, that power s very low.  The voltage is maybe
+ or - 5V and even the power leads carrying the phone charging juice
carry a small amount and the current is quite low.  No shocks there,
not even with wet hands I don’t think.


On May 16, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Ben,
I highly doubt you would a gotten shocked, as normally the voltage
transferred via USB is very very small, plus with the number of
amps, it would be very unlikely.  Now, disclaimer!  that said? I
never said not to be careful!  If you felt uneasy attempting to
use the cord, then yes.  It was probably best that you didn't.  I
never said there wouldn't be that one in a million time chance
you'd get zizzied.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.
clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
Phone: (704) 256-8010.

- Original Message -
*From:*Ben J. Bloomgren <mailto:ben.j.bloomg...@gmail.com>
*To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:*Sunday, May 15, 2016 11:02 PM
*Subject:*Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

Okay, I have not seen it happen in a couple of months, but the
cable which originally came with my old iPhone Five did degrade
to the point at which I was scared that I'd get shocked or it'd
mess up the phone in some way. The chord to my iPhone Six S
hasn't seemed to do that yet, but I'm paranoid due to my previous
experience. Chris, you may have an aberration, but Apple does
need to rethink the Lightning chords, if they want to maintain
their proprietary ways.

Ben

On 5/13/2016 16:22, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.
Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use
lightning cables.  Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S,
a few Apple TV 4's, etc.
Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months roughly, it
seems like the end of the insolation right where the lightning
connector is that goes into the device, that area seems to keep
getting cut/torn.  Usually it's not so bad that the cable stops
working, but it's bad enough that it definitely has the
potential that at any moment, it could get worse.  I have one
cable now which is almost 98% sebbered all the way through both
the insolation and the actual wire itself.  It's pretty
pathetic.  It seems like most all my cables eventually are
getting to this point, and I swear, I'm not misusing them.  I'm
just plugging them in, and unplugging them as normal.
Apparently, I'm by far not the first person who's had this
issue.  If you 

Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[E.T.]

 Good grief. The delete key is your friend. (smiles)

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 5/18/2016 1:37 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Shruggs.  Aaaarg!  I was trying, to make a point, ey?  Do we have to
scientifically be so politically correct?  The point I was trying to
make was, if you're in doubt about getting shocked from a defected cord,
don't risk it.  LOL!  Smile.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - From: "E.T." <ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables


Voltage does not kill, current kills.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 5/18/2016 1:09 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Again, that said, I'd not chance it though. There's always that one in a
billion time glitch.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.
clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
Phone: (704) 256-8010.

- Original Message -
*From:* Scott <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:59 AM
    *Subject:* Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

Chris, you’re correct, that power s very low.  The voltage is maybe
+ or - 5V and even the power leads carrying the phone charging juice
carry a small amount and the current is quite low.  No shocks there,
not even with wet hands I don’t think.


On May 16, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Ben,
I highly doubt you would a gotten shocked, as normally the voltage
transferred via USB is very very small, plus with the number of
amps, it would be very unlikely.  Now, disclaimer!  that said? I
never said not to be careful!  If you felt uneasy attempting to
use the cord, then yes.  It was probably best that you didn't.  I
never said there wouldn't be that one in a million time chance
you'd get zizzied.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.
clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
Phone: (704) 256-8010.

- Original Message -
*From:*Ben J. Bloomgren <mailto:ben.j.bloomg...@gmail.com>
*To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
    *Sent:*Sunday, May 15, 2016 11:02 PM
*Subject:*Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

Okay, I have not seen it happen in a couple of months, but the
cable which originally came with my old iPhone Five did degrade
to the point at which I was scared that I'd get shocked or it'd
mess up the phone in some way. The chord to my iPhone Six S
hasn't seemed to do that yet, but I'm paranoid due to my previous
experience. Chris, you may have an aberration, but Apple does
need to rethink the Lightning chords, if they want to maintain
their proprietary ways.

Ben

On 5/13/2016 16:22, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.
Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use
lightning cables.  Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S,
a few Apple TV 4's, etc.
Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months roughly, it
seems like the end of the insolation right where the lightning
connector is that goes into the device, that area seems to keep
getting cut/torn.  Usually it's not so bad that the cable stops
working, but it's bad enough that it definitely has the
potential that at any moment, it could get worse.  I have one
cable now which is almost 98% sebbered all the way through both
the insolation and the actual wire itself.  It's pretty
pathetic.  It seems like most all my cables eventually are
getting to this point, and I swear, I'm not misusing them.  I'm
just plugging them in, and unplugging them as normal.
Apparently, I'm by far not the first person who's had this
issue.  If you just Google online, you'll find lots of forums
and blogs, etc. of people who've had the same issue quite
regularly.  So apparently, it must not be just me.
Is it just these things are really badly designed?  I'm on hold
right now waiting for Apple to pick up to see if maybe they can
replace a few of these chords, but I'm not very hopeful.  They
might, but I'm not counting on it.
I'm just wonderring if any of you guys have also found your
cables tearing, getting cut, or worse on a consistent 

Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Shruggs.  Aaaarg!  I was trying, to make a point, ey?  Do we have to 
scientifically be so politically correct?  The point I was trying to make 
was, if you're in doubt about getting shocked from a defected cord, don't 
risk it.  LOL!  Smile.

---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - 
From: "E.T." <ancient.ali...@icloud.com>

To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables


   Voltage does not kill, current kills.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 5/18/2016 1:09 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Again, that said, I'd not chance it though. There's always that one in a
billion time glitch.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.
clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
Phone: (704) 256-8010.

- Original Message -
*From:* Scott <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:59 AM
    *Subject:* Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

Chris, you’re correct, that power s very low.  The voltage is maybe
+ or - 5V and even the power leads carrying the phone charging juice
carry a small amount and the current is quite low.  No shocks there,
not even with wet hands I don’t think.


On May 16, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Ben,
I highly doubt you would a gotten shocked, as normally the voltage
transferred via USB is very very small, plus with the number of
amps, it would be very unlikely.  Now, disclaimer!  that said? I
never said not to be careful!  If you felt uneasy attempting to
use the cord, then yes.  It was probably best that you didn't.  I
never said there wouldn't be that one in a million time chance
you'd get zizzied.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.
clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
Phone: (704) 256-8010.

- Original Message -
*From:*Ben J. Bloomgren <mailto:ben.j.bloomg...@gmail.com>
*To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
    *Sent:*Sunday, May 15, 2016 11:02 PM
*Subject:*Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

Okay, I have not seen it happen in a couple of months, but the
cable which originally came with my old iPhone Five did degrade
to the point at which I was scared that I'd get shocked or it'd
mess up the phone in some way. The chord to my iPhone Six S
hasn't seemed to do that yet, but I'm paranoid due to my previous
experience. Chris, you may have an aberration, but Apple does
need to rethink the Lightning chords, if they want to maintain
their proprietary ways.

Ben

On 5/13/2016 16:22, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.
Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use
lightning cables.  Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S,
a few Apple TV 4's, etc.
Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months roughly, it
seems like the end of the insolation right where the lightning
connector is that goes into the device, that area seems to keep
getting cut/torn.  Usually it's not so bad that the cable stops
working, but it's bad enough that it definitely has the
potential that at any moment, it could get worse.  I have one
cable now which is almost 98% sebbered all the way through both
the insolation and the actual wire itself.  It's pretty
pathetic.  It seems like most all my cables eventually are
getting to this point, and I swear, I'm not misusing them.  I'm
just plugging them in, and unplugging them as normal.
Apparently, I'm by far not the first person who's had this
issue.  If you just Google online, you'll find lots of forums
and blogs, etc. of people who've had the same issue quite
regularly.  So apparently, it must not be just me.
Is it just these things are really badly designed?  I'm on hold
right now waiting for Apple to pick up to see if maybe they can
replace a few of these chords, but I'm not very hopeful.  They
might, but I'm not counting on it.
I'm just wonderring if any of you guys have also found your
cables tearing, getting cut, or worse on a consistent basis
right at the tip of the cord like I am.  If so, what are you all
doing to get around this, so you don't have to keep buying cord
after cord after cord every few months.  This alone is starting
to make me

Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[E.T.]

   Voltage does not kill, current kills.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 5/18/2016 1:09 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Again, that said, I'd not chance it though. There's always that one in a
billion time glitch.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.
clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
Phone: (704) 256-8010.

- Original Message -
*From:* Scott <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:59 AM
    *Subject:* Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

Chris, you’re correct, that power s very low.  The voltage is maybe
+ or - 5V and even the power leads carrying the phone charging juice
carry a small amount and the current is quite low.  No shocks there,
not even with wet hands I don’t think.


On May 16, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Ben,
I highly doubt you would a gotten shocked, as normally the voltage
transferred via USB is very very small, plus with the number of
amps, it would be very unlikely.  Now, disclaimer!  that said? I
never said not to be careful!  If you felt uneasy attempting to
use the cord, then yes.  It was probably best that you didn't.  I
never said there wouldn't be that one in a million time chance
you'd get zizzied.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.
clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
Phone: (704) 256-8010.

- Original Message -
*From:*Ben J. Bloomgren <mailto:ben.j.bloomg...@gmail.com>
*To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:*Sunday, May 15, 2016 11:02 PM
    *Subject:*Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

Okay, I have not seen it happen in a couple of months, but the
cable which originally came with my old iPhone Five did degrade
to the point at which I was scared that I'd get shocked or it'd
mess up the phone in some way. The chord to my iPhone Six S
hasn't seemed to do that yet, but I'm paranoid due to my previous
experience. Chris, you may have an aberration, but Apple does
need to rethink the Lightning chords, if they want to maintain
their proprietary ways.

Ben

On 5/13/2016 16:22, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.
Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use
lightning cables.  Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S,
a few Apple TV 4's, etc.
Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months roughly, it
seems like the end of the insolation right where the lightning
connector is that goes into the device, that area seems to keep
getting cut/torn.  Usually it's not so bad that the cable stops
working, but it's bad enough that it definitely has the
potential that at any moment, it could get worse.  I have one
cable now which is almost 98% sebbered all the way through both
the insolation and the actual wire itself.  It's pretty
pathetic.  It seems like most all my cables eventually are
getting to this point, and I swear, I'm not misusing them.  I'm
just plugging them in, and unplugging them as normal.
Apparently, I'm by far not the first person who's had this
issue.  If you just Google online, you'll find lots of forums
and blogs, etc. of people who've had the same issue quite
regularly.  So apparently, it must not be just me.
Is it just these things are really badly designed?  I'm on hold
right now waiting for Apple to pick up to see if maybe they can
replace a few of these chords, but I'm not very hopeful.  They
might, but I'm not counting on it.
I'm just wonderring if any of you guys have also found your
cables tearing, getting cut, or worse on a consistent basis
right at the tip of the cord like I am.  If so, what are you all
doing to get around this, so you don't have to keep buying cord
after cord after cord every few months.  This alone is starting
to make me reconsider iOS devices.  At least, ones with
lightning connecters.
Lightning's great, but the cords appear to be crap in my opinion
based soly on what I so far have observed. Again, that's stated
as an opinion, not a fact.  Keep that in mind.
Chris.
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Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Again, that said, I'd not chance it though.  There's always that one in a 
billion time glitch.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Scott 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:59 AM
  Subject: Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables


  Chris, you’re correct, that power s very low.  The voltage is maybe + or - 5V 
and even the power leads carrying the phone charging juice carry a small amount 
and the current is quite low.  No shocks there, not even with wet hands I don’t 
think.


On May 16, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


Ben,

I highly doubt you would a gotten shocked, as normally the voltage 
transferred via USB is very very small, plus with the number of amps, it would 
be very unlikely.  Now, disclaimer!  that said? I never said not to be careful! 
 If you felt uneasy attempting to use the cord, then yes.  It was probably best 
that you didn't.  I never said there wouldn't be that one in a million time 
chance you'd get zizzied.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ben J. Bloomgren
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 11:02 PM
  Subject: Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables


  Okay, I have not seen it happen in a couple of months, but the cable 
which originally came with my old iPhone Five did degrade to the point at which 
I was scared that I'd get shocked or it'd mess up the phone in some way. The 
chord to my iPhone Six S hasn't seemed to do that yet, but I'm paranoid due to 
my previous experience. Chris, you may have an aberration, but Apple does need 
to rethink the Lightning chords, if they want to maintain their proprietary 
ways.

  Ben


  On 5/13/2016 16:22, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.

Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use lightning 
cables.  Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S, a few Apple TV 4's, etc.

Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months roughly, it seems 
like the end of the insolation right where the lightning connector is that goes 
into the device, that area seems to keep getting cut/torn.  Usually it's not so 
bad that the cable stops working, but it's bad enough that it definitely has 
the potential that at any moment, it could get worse.  I have one cable now 
which is almost 98% sebbered all the way through both the insolation and the 
actual wire itself.  It's pretty pathetic.  It seems like most all my cables 
eventually are getting to this point, and I swear, I'm not misusing them.  I'm 
just plugging them in, and unplugging them as normal.

Apparently, I'm by far not the first person who's had this issue.  If 
you just Google online, you'll find lots of forums and blogs, etc. of people 
who've had the same issue quite regularly.  So apparently, it must not be just 
me.

Is it just these things are really badly designed?  I'm on hold right 
now waiting for Apple to pick up to see if maybe they can replace a few of 
these chords, but I'm not very hopeful.  They might, but I'm not counting on it.

I'm just wonderring if any of you guys have also found your cables 
tearing, getting cut, or worse on a consistent basis right at the tip of the 
cord like I am.  If so, what are you all doing to get around this, so you don't 
have to keep buying cord after cord after cord every few months.  This alone is 
starting to make me reconsider iOS devices.  At least, ones with lightning 
connecters.

Lightning's great, but the cords appear to be crap in my opinion based 
soly on what I so far have observed.  Again, that's stated as an opinion, not a 
fact.  Keep that in mind.

Chris.
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Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Scott]

Chris, you’re correct, that power s very low.  The voltage is maybe + or - 5V 
and even the power leads carrying the phone charging juice carry a small amount 
and the current is quite low.  No shocks there, not even with wet hands I don’t 
think.

> On May 16, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Ben,
> 
> I highly doubt you would a gotten shocked, as normally the voltage 
> transferred via USB is very very small, plus with the number of amps, it 
> would be very unlikely.  Now, disclaimer!  that said? I never said not to be 
> careful!  If you felt uneasy attempting to use the cord, then yes.  It was 
> probably best that you didn't.  I never said there wouldn't be that one in a 
> million time chance you'd get zizzied.
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
> 
> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Ben J. Bloomgren <mailto:ben.j.bloomg...@gmail.com>
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 11:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables
>> 
>> Okay, I have not seen it happen in a couple of months, but the cable which 
>> originally came with my old iPhone Five did degrade to the point at which I 
>> was scared that I'd get shocked or it'd mess up the phone in some way. The 
>> chord to my iPhone Six S hasn't seemed to do that yet, but I'm paranoid due 
>> to my previous experience. Chris, you may have an aberration, but Apple does 
>> need to rethink the Lightning chords, if they want to maintain their 
>> proprietary ways.
>> 
>> Ben
>> 
>> On 5/13/2016 16:22, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>> OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.
>>> 
>>> Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use lightning cables.  
>>> Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S, a few Apple TV 4's, etc.
>>> 
>>> Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months roughly, it seems like 
>>> the end of the insolation right where the lightning connector is that goes 
>>> into the device, that area seems to keep getting cut/torn.  Usually it's 
>>> not so bad that the cable stops working, but it's bad enough that it 
>>> definitely has the potential that at any moment, it could get worse.  I 
>>> have one cable now which is almost 98% sebbered all the way through both 
>>> the insolation and the actual wire itself.  It's pretty pathetic.  It seems 
>>> like most all my cables eventually are getting to this point, and I swear, 
>>> I'm not misusing them.  I'm just plugging them in, and unplugging them as 
>>> normal.
>>> 
>>> Apparently, I'm by far not the first person who's had this issue.  If you 
>>> just Google online, you'll find lots of forums and blogs, etc. of people 
>>> who've had the same issue quite regularly.  So apparently, it must not be 
>>> just me.
>>> 
>>> Is it just these things are really badly designed?  I'm on hold right now 
>>> waiting for Apple to pick up to see if maybe they can replace a few of 
>>> these chords, but I'm not very hopeful.  They might, but I'm not counting 
>>> on it.
>>> 
>>> I'm just wonderring if any of you guys have also found your cables tearing, 
>>> getting cut, or worse on a consistent basis right at the tip of the cord 
>>> like I am.  If so, what are you all doing to get around this, so you don't 
>>> have to keep buying cord after cord after cord every few months.  This 
>>> alone is starting to make me reconsider iOS devices.  At least, ones with 
>>> lightning connecters.
>>> 
>>> Lightning's great, but the cords appear to be crap in my opinion based soly 
>>> on what I so far have observed.  Again, that's stated as an opinion, not a 
>>> fact.  Keep that in mind.
>>> 
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[Scott]

Not in my case, no pets to speak of at this point.

Experienced this but once with the cable included with m y iPhone 6+.  My 6S 
cable, iPad and other iPhone 6s+ / devices are all in good shape.  Wonder if a 
bad batch was shipped with the iPhone 6 series?

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> actually been chewed. :)
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Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Scott]

I have had this happen, I’d say the failure rate is about 1 out of 4 or so.  
Mine failed in exactly the same way around the connector on the lightning side 
as opposed to the USB side.
There are 3rd party cables you can get, I found some at Walgreens for 
$6 that are made better.:)

> On May 13, 2016, at 7:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.
> 
> Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use lightning cables.  
> Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S, a few Apple TV 4's, etc.
> 
> Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months roughly, it seems like the 
> end of the insolation right where the lightning connector is that goes into 
> the device, that area seems to keep getting cut/torn.  Usually it's not so 
> bad that the cable stops working, but it's bad enough that it definitely has 
> the potential that at any moment, it could get worse.  I have one cable now 
> which is almost 98% sebbered all the way through both the insolation and the 
> actual wire itself.  It's pretty pathetic.  It seems like most all my cables 
> eventually are getting to this point, and I swear, I'm not misusing them.  
> I'm just plugging them in, and unplugging them as normal.
> 
> Apparently, I'm by far not the first person who's had this issue.  If you 
> just Google online, you'll find lots of forums and blogs, etc. of people 
> who've had the same issue quite regularly.  So apparently, it must not be 
> just me.
> 
> Is it just these things are really badly designed?  I'm on hold right now 
> waiting for Apple to pick up to see if maybe they can replace a few of these 
> chords, but I'm not very hopeful.  They might, but I'm not counting on it.
> 
> I'm just wonderring if any of you guys have also found your cables tearing, 
> getting cut, or worse on a consistent basis right at the tip of the cord like 
> I am.  If so, what are you all doing to get around this, so you don't have to 
> keep buying cord after cord after cord every few months.  This alone is 
> starting to make me reconsider iOS devices.  At least, ones with lightning 
> connecters.
> 
> Lightning's great, but the cords appear to be crap in my opinion based soly 
> on what I so far have observed.  Again, that's stated as an opinion, not a 
> fact.  Keep that in mind.
> 
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Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Ben,

I highly doubt you would a gotten shocked, as normally the voltage transferred 
via USB is very very small, plus with the number of amps, it would be very 
unlikely.  Now, disclaimer!  that said? I never said not to be careful!  If you 
felt uneasy attempting to use the cord, then yes.  It was probably best that 
you didn't.  I never said there wouldn't be that one in a million time chance 
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  Subject: Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables


  Okay, I have not seen it happen in a couple of months, but the cable which 
originally came with my old iPhone Five did degrade to the point at which I was 
scared that I'd get shocked or it'd mess up the phone in some way. The chord to 
my iPhone Six S hasn't seemed to do that yet, but I'm paranoid due to my 
previous experience. Chris, you may have an aberration, but Apple does need to 
rethink the Lightning chords, if they want to maintain their proprietary ways.

  Ben


  On 5/13/2016 16:22, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.

Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use lightning cables.  
Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S, a few Apple TV 4's, etc.

Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months roughly, it seems like 
the end of the insolation right where the lightning connector is that goes into 
the device, that area seems to keep getting cut/torn.  Usually it's not so bad 
that the cable stops working, but it's bad enough that it definitely has the 
potential that at any moment, it could get worse.  I have one cable now which 
is almost 98% sebbered all the way through both the insolation and the actual 
wire itself.  It's pretty pathetic.  It seems like most all my cables 
eventually are getting to this point, and I swear, I'm not misusing them.  I'm 
just plugging them in, and unplugging them as normal.

Apparently, I'm by far not the first person who's had this issue.  If you 
just Google online, you'll find lots of forums and blogs, etc. of people who've 
had the same issue quite regularly.  So apparently, it must not be just me.

Is it just these things are really badly designed?  I'm on hold right now 
waiting for Apple to pick up to see if maybe they can replace a few of these 
chords, but I'm not very hopeful.  They might, but I'm not counting on it.

I'm just wonderring if any of you guys have also found your cables tearing, 
getting cut, or worse on a consistent basis right at the tip of the cord like I 
am.  If so, what are you all doing to get around this, so you don't have to 
keep buying cord after cord after cord every few months.  This alone is 
starting to make me reconsider iOS devices.  At least, ones with lightning 
connecters.

Lightning's great, but the cords appear to be crap in my opinion based soly 
on what I so far have observed.  Again, that's stated as an opinion, not a 
fact.  Keep that in mind.

Chris.
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There isn’t We have a dog, but she’s grown, and far passed the chewing stage.
  I keep it far enough back on my desk, that even if we had a chewing dog, she 
wouldn’t be able to get to it lol.
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Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

I’m sure I remember a discussion about this a few years ago. The conclusion was 
something to do with the climate and the humidity of the environment. I guess 
if it’s a recyclable plastic I guess it will vary across temperature / humidity 
environments.

Regards,

Gena
> On 16 May 2016, at 04:02, Ben J. Bloomgren  wrote:
> 
> Okay, I have not seen it happen in a couple of months, but the cable which 
> originally came with my old iPhone Five did degrade to the point at which I 
> was scared that I'd get shocked or it'd mess up the phone in some way. The 
> chord to my iPhone Six S hasn't seemed to do that yet, but I'm paranoid due 
> to my previous experience. Chris, you may have an aberration, but Apple does 
> need to rethink the Lightning chords, if they want to maintain their 
> proprietary ways.
> 
> Ben
> 
> On 5/13/2016 16:22, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.
>>  
>> Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use lightning cables.  
>> Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S, a few Apple TV 4's, etc.
>>  
>> Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months roughly, it seems like 
>> the end of the insolation right where the lightning connector is that goes 
>> into the device, that area seems to keep getting cut/torn.  Usually it's not 
>> so bad that the cable stops working, but it's bad enough that it definitely 
>> has the potential that at any moment, it could get worse.  I have one cable 
>> now which is almost 98% sebbered all the way through both the insolation and 
>> the actual wire itself.  It's pretty pathetic.  It seems like most all my 
>> cables eventually are getting to this point, and I swear, I'm not misusing 
>> them.  I'm just plugging them in, and unplugging them as normal.
>>  
>> Apparently, I'm by far not the first person who's had this issue.  If you 
>> just Google online, you'll find lots of forums and blogs, etc. of people 
>> who've had the same issue quite regularly.  So apparently, it must not be 
>> just me.
>>  
>> Is it just these things are really badly designed?  I'm on hold right now 
>> waiting for Apple to pick up to see if maybe they can replace a few of these 
>> chords, but I'm not very hopeful.  They might, but I'm not counting on it.
>>  
>> I'm just wonderring if any of you guys have also found your cables tearing, 
>> getting cut, or worse on a consistent basis right at the tip of the cord 
>> like I am.  If so, what are you all doing to get around this, so you don't 
>> have to keep buying cord after cord after cord every few months.  This alone 
>> is starting to make me reconsider iOS devices.  At least, ones with 
>> lightning connecters.
>>  
>> Lightning's great, but the cords appear to be crap in my opinion based soly 
>> on what I so far have observed.  Again, that's stated as an opinion, not a 
>> fact.  Keep that in mind.
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[Ben J. Bloomgren]

Okay, I have not seen it happen in a couple of months, but the cable 
which originally came with my old iPhone Five did degrade to the point 
at which I was scared that I'd get shocked or it'd mess up the phone in 
some way. The chord to my iPhone Six S hasn't seemed to do that yet, but 
I'm paranoid due to my previous experience. Chris, you may have an 
aberration, but Apple does need to rethink the Lightning chords, if they 
want to maintain their proprietary ways.


Ben

On 5/13/2016 16:22, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.
Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use lightning 
cables.  Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S, a few Apple TV 
4's, etc.
Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months roughly, it seems 
like the end of the insolation right where the lightning connector is 
that goes into the device, that area seems to keep getting cut/torn. 
Usually it's not so bad that the cable stops working, but it's bad 
enough that it definitely has the potential that at any moment, it 
could get worse.  I have one cable now which is almost 98% sebbered 
all the way through both the insolation and the actual wire itself.  
It's pretty pathetic.  It seems like most all my cables eventually are 
getting to this point, and I swear, I'm not misusing them.  I'm just 
plugging them in, and unplugging them as normal.
Apparently, I'm by far not the first person who's had this issue.  If 
you just Google online, you'll find lots of forums and blogs, etc. of 
people who've had the same issue quite regularly.  So apparently, it 
must not be just me.
Is it just these things are really badly designed?  I'm on hold right 
now waiting for Apple to pick up to see if maybe they can replace a 
few of these chords, but I'm not very hopeful.  They might, but I'm 
not counting on it.
I'm just wonderring if any of you guys have also found your cables 
tearing, getting cut, or worse on a consistent basis right at the tip 
of the cord like I am.  If so, what are you all doing to get around 
this, so you don't have to keep buying cord after cord after cord 
every few months.  This alone is starting to make me reconsider iOS 
devices.  At least, ones with lightning connecters.
Lightning's great, but the cords appear to be crap in my opinion based 
soly on what I so far have observed.  Again, that's stated as an 
opinion, not a fact.  Keep that in mind.

Chris.
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If it was a speaker doc, then darn straight I'd replace it!  I listen to way 
too much audio on my phone to be without one.  Yeah, if it was just a charging 
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  If my Apple Doc fails I’ll not replace mine either but so far touch wood it’s 
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On 15 May 2016, at 10:01, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listse...@me.com> wrote:


I wonder if there’s an animal connection?  After all, chewed cable could 
have actually been chewed. :)

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Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Let me put it this way, if my cat is jumping about 4 and a half feet in the 
air on to a ledge smaller than a stair banister, then, yeah, maybe.  She's 
not even allowed in the room where I keep the cable though, and the fact 
that if I'm not literally using the cable then I unplug it and it's in a 
drawer, so I very highly doubt this is the case.


My mother got that cable home I told you all about with the blue L E D 
lights.  She thinks it's made by someone called Atomy?  She may be 
remembering the spelling wrong though.  They're not cheap.  They're about 14 
or 15 bucks a piece from Bed, Bath and Beyond, but they're so! worth it! 
For one, it's a double threaded cable, meaning, it kind a reminds me of how 
an old fassion phone cord that plugs into the wall would feel.  You know how 
they usually feel like two cords put together, one on the left side of the 
cable and another on the right?  Almost like a split cord is the best way I 
can describe it.  Not like a Y cord, that isn't what I mean.  I'm not sure 
how else to explain it.  It makes the cord wider though by doing this.  The 
little L E D lights go all the way from the plastic lightning tip all the 
way down to the plastic end on the other end of the cord.  The USB end that 
goes into the computer/mac/wallblock is really nice.  The actual metal USB 
male plug itself on the end of the cord is jutted out just a tad from a 
plastic housing block which is around the end of the cord.  No, it doesn't 
get in the way.  Think like an electrical transformer that goes in the wall. 
You have the two metal prongs on the transformer itself.  OK, now imagine 
that, only instead of electrical prongs, think the metal USB plug instead. 
That's basically what this looks like.  The other end that goes in the 
phone/IPad/Apple TV remote, or whatever, is much wider.  Notice, I didn't 
say thicker.  I said wider.  Even in my Otterbox case, where things are a 
bit squished together on account of the way the case is designed, it's not 
so wide it won't fit.  It actually fits even better than the native cord. 
When I push it into the lightning port on the phone, the click is so firm, 
and so definite that it's incredible!  Also, because of the extra wideness 
at that end, it makes grabbing the plastic instead of the end of the actual 
cord insolation an absolute breeze.  I have fairly big fingers, yet even for 
me, it's very very very easy to grab ahold of and gently, but firmly pull it 
out.


So yeah, it's not a cheap cord, I'll grant you that, but the quality is 
absolutely superb!  I'd highly recommend these things.  OK, they're only 3 
feet long, but you could always get a USB extender if you really really 
needed it.


Chris. 


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Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

I have never personally never had an Apple cable do this to me, but all my 
children have done this to mac power cables. I believe coilling  too tightly 
causes this ©

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn 

> On May 15, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi Chris!
> I don’t seem to have this issue.
> Even though i use them a lot and maybe sometimes missuse them.
> But i am not sure why you have that kind of problem and i don’t.
> I’ve seen lightning cables nearly broken so i believe you 100%.
> Not sure if its bad quality or what.
> /A
>> On 14 May 2016, at 01:22, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.
>>  
>> Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use lightning cables.  
>> Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S, a few Apple TV 4's, etc.
>>  
>> Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months roughly, it seems like 
>> the end of the insolation right where the lightning connector is that goes 
>> into the device, that area seems to keep getting cut/torn.  Usually it's not 
>> so bad that the cable stops working, but it's bad enough that it definitely 
>> has the potential that at any moment, it could get worse.  I have one cable 
>> now which is almost 98% sebbered all the way through both the insolation and 
>> the actual wire itself.  It's pretty pathetic.  It seems like most all my 
>> cables eventually are getting to this point, and I swear, I'm not misusing 
>> them.  I'm just plugging them in, and unplugging them as normal.
>>  
>> Apparently, I'm by far not the first person who's had this issue.  If you 
>> just Google online, you'll find lots of forums and blogs, etc. of people 
>> who've had the same issue quite regularly.  So apparently, it must not be 
>> just me.
>>  
>> Is it just these things are really badly designed?  I'm on hold right now 
>> waiting for Apple to pick up to see if maybe they can replace a few of these 
>> chords, but I'm not very hopeful.  They might, but I'm not counting on it.
>>  
>> I'm just wonderring if any of you guys have also found your cables tearing, 
>> getting cut, or worse on a consistent basis right at the tip of the cord 
>> like I am.  If so, what are you all doing to get around this, so you don't 
>> have to keep buying cord after cord after cord every few months.  This alone 
>> is starting to make me reconsider iOS devices.  At least, ones with 
>> lightning connecters.
>>  
>> Lightning's great, but the cords appear to be crap in my opinion based soly 
>> on what I so far have observed.  Again, that's stated as an opinion, not a 
>> fact.  Keep that in mind.
>>  
>> Chris.
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Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi Chris!
I don’t seem to have this issue.
Even though i use them a lot and maybe sometimes missuse them.
But i am not sure why you have that kind of problem and i don’t.
I’ve seen lightning cables nearly broken so i believe you 100%.
Not sure if its bad quality or what.
/A
> On 14 May 2016, at 01:22, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.
>  
> Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use lightning cables.  
> Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S, a few Apple TV 4's, etc.
>  
> Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months roughly, it seems like the 
> end of the insolation right where the lightning connector is that goes into 
> the device, that area seems to keep getting cut/torn.  Usually it's not so 
> bad that the cable stops working, but it's bad enough that it definitely has 
> the potential that at any moment, it could get worse.  I have one cable now 
> which is almost 98% sebbered all the way through both the insolation and the 
> actual wire itself.  It's pretty pathetic.  It seems like most all my cables 
> eventually are getting to this point, and I swear, I'm not misusing them.  
> I'm just plugging them in, and unplugging them as normal.
>  
> Apparently, I'm by far not the first person who's had this issue.  If you 
> just Google online, you'll find lots of forums and blogs, etc. of people 
> who've had the same issue quite regularly.  So apparently, it must not be 
> just me.
>  
> Is it just these things are really badly designed?  I'm on hold right now 
> waiting for Apple to pick up to see if maybe they can replace a few of these 
> chords, but I'm not very hopeful.  They might, but I'm not counting on it.
>  
> I'm just wonderring if any of you guys have also found your cables tearing, 
> getting cut, or worse on a consistent basis right at the tip of the cord like 
> I am.  If so, what are you all doing to get around this, so you don't have to 
> keep buying cord after cord after cord every few months.  This alone is 
> starting to make me reconsider iOS devices.  At least, ones with lightning 
> connecters.
>  
> Lightning's great, but the cords appear to be crap in my opinion based soly 
> on what I so far have observed.  Again, that's stated as an opinion, not a 
> fact.  Keep that in mind.
>  
> Chris.
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Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

If my Apple Doc fails I’ll not replace mine either but so far touch wood it’s 
fine.
> On 15 May 2016, at 10:01, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
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> I wonder if there’s an animal connection?  After all, chewed cable could have 
> actually been chewed. :)
> 
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> means I’m not going to replace it.
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Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

I wonder if there’s an animal connection?  After all, chewed cable could have 
actually been chewed. :)

Anyway, my Apple dock recently failed.  It’s reassuringly expensive, which 
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Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Never had this problem.  My Cable is left plugged in to the wall and the end 
which plugs into the phone is left plugged in to my Cradle.  If I do take it 
anywhere, one end is left in the cradle and the other is left in its plug so 
all I do is plug it straight in to the wall socket and thus far no problems.  
Never had a bad cable from the I phone 4 right to the Six S Plus.  The only bad 
thing I had was my headphones that Apple supplied stopped working and got them 
replaced through Apple care.

Kawal.
> On 14 May 2016, at 19:00, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Well, my mom got me one which she's bringing home to me, it sounds kind of 
> weird/interesting.  She further said that it states directly on the packaging 
> that it is fully Apple certified, so yeah... apparently, this one has blue L 
> E D lights within the cord itself.  I was like... wuh?  OK, can I hear you 
> say hippy cord?  LOL!
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>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Devin Prater <mailto:d.pra...@me.com>
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 12:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables
>> 
>> I bought a lightning cable from Walmart maybe four or so months ago. The 
>> protective layer around the wires is like any other chord, and has lasted me 
>> a long while, so the most expensive aren’t always the best.
>> Sent from my Mac.
>> 
>> Devin Prater
>> d.pra...@me.com <mailto:d.pra...@me.com>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 14, 2016, at 1:37 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This problem seems to be happening more with the 6th series than the 5th.  
>>> Not sure why, but that's just the bad luck of the draw for me.  LOL!
>>> ---
>>> Christopher Gilland
>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>> Training Instructor.
>>>  
>>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: Katie Zodrow <mailto:kzodrow...@att.net>
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 11:34 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Mary. Me too. I haven't had this problem at all with my iPhone 5s and 
>>>> I've had it for almost 2 years now. My lightning cable worksgreat 
>>>> for charging the phone and the end of the court has never broken.
>>>> Katie
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On May 13, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I have not noticed this problem on the 5S, a 6s, or an iPad mini. Just 
>>>>> three devices, but no problems.
>>>>> Mary
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 13, 2016, at 4:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use lightning 
>>>>>> cables.  Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S, a few Apple TV 
>>>>>> 4's, etc.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months roughly, it seems 
>>>>>> like the end of the insolation right where the lightning connector is 
>>>>>> that goes into the device, that area seems to keep getting cut/torn.  
>>>>>> Usually it's not so bad that the cable stops working, but it's bad 
>>>>>> enough that it definitely has the potential that at any moment, it could 
>>>>>> get worse.  I have one cable now which is almost 98% sebbered all the 
>>>>>> way through both the insolation and the actual wire itself.  It's pretty 
>>>>>> pathetic.  It seems like most all my cables eventually are getting to 
>>>>>> this point, and I swear, I'm not misusing

Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Well, my mom got me one which she's bringing home to me, it sounds kind of 
weird/interesting.  She further said that it states directly on the packaging 
that it is fully Apple certified, so yeah... apparently, this one has blue L E 
D lights within the cord itself.  I was like... wuh?  OK, can I hear you say 
hippy cord?  LOL!
---
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Training Instructor.

clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Devin Prater 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 12:55 PM
  Subject: Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables


  I bought a lightning cable from Walmart maybe four or so months ago. The 
protective layer around the wires is like any other chord, and has lasted me a 
long while, so the most expensive aren’t always the best.

  Sent from my Mac.


  Devin Prater
  d.pra...@me.com






On May 14, 2016, at 1:37 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


This problem seems to be happening more with the 6th series than the 5th.  
Not sure why, but that's just the bad luck of the draw for me.  LOL!
---
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Training Instructor.

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Phone: (704) 256-8010.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Katie Zodrow
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 11:34 PM
  Subject: Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables


  Hi Mary. Me too. I haven't had this problem at all with my iPhone 5s and 
I've had it for almost 2 years now. My lightning cable works great for charging 
the phone and the end of the court has never broken.
  Katie
  Sent from my iPhone

  On May 13, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:


I have not noticed this problem on the 5S, a 6s, or an iPad mini. Just 
three devices, but no problems.
Mary



Sent from my iPhone

On May 13, 2016, at 4:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


  OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.

  Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use lightning 
cables.  Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S, a few Apple TV 4's, etc.

  Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months roughly, it seems 
like the end of the insolation right where the lightning connector is that goes 
into the device, that area seems to keep getting cut/torn.  Usually it's not so 
bad that the cable stops working, but it's bad enough that it definitely has 
the potential that at any moment, it could get worse.  I have one cable now 
which is almost 98% sebbered all the way through both the insolation and the 
actual wire itself.  It's pretty pathetic.  It seems like most all my cables 
eventually are getting to this point, and I swear, I'm not misusing them.  I'm 
just plugging them in, and unplugging them as normal.

  Apparently, I'm by far not the first person who's had this issue.  If 
you just Google online, you'll find lots of forums and blogs, etc. of people 
who've had the same issue quite regularly.  So apparently, it must not be just 
me.

  Is it just these things are really badly designed?  I'm on hold right 
now waiting for Apple to pick up to see if maybe they can replace a few of 
these chords, but I'm not very hopeful.  They might, but I'm not counting on it.

  I'm just wonderring if any of you guys have also found your cables 
tearing, getting cut, or worse on a consistent basis right at the tip of the 
cord like I am.  If so, what are you all doing to get around this, so you don't 
have to keep buying cord after cord after cord every few months.  This alone is 
starting to make me reconsider iOS devices.  At least, ones with lightning 
connecters.

  Lightning's great, but the cords appear to be crap in my opinion 
based soly on what I so far have observed.  Again, that's stated as an opinion, 
not a fact.  Keep that in mind.

  Chris.


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Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Devin Prater]

I bought a lightning cable from Walmart maybe four or so months ago. The 
protective layer around the wires is like any other chord, and has lasted me a 
long while, so the most expensive aren’t always the best.
Sent from my Mac.

Devin Prater
d.pra...@me.com



> On May 14, 2016, at 1:37 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> This problem seems to be happening more with the 6th series than the 5th.  
> Not sure why, but that's just the bad luck of the draw for me.  LOL!
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> Training Instructor.
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>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Katie Zodrow <mailto:kzodrow...@att.net>
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 11:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables
>> 
>> Hi Mary. Me too. I haven't had this problem at all with my iPhone 5s and 
>> I've had it for almost 2 years now. My lightning cable works great for 
>> charging the phone and the end of the court has never broken.
>> Katie
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On May 13, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I have not noticed this problem on the 5S, a 6s, or an iPad mini. Just 
>>> three devices, but no problems.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On May 13, 2016, at 4:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.
>>>>  
>>>> Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use lightning cables. 
>>>>  Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S, a few Apple TV 4's, etc.
>>>>  
>>>> Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months roughly, it seems like 
>>>> the end of the insolation right where the lightning connector is that goes 
>>>> into the device, that area seems to keep getting cut/torn.  Usually it's 
>>>> not so bad that the cable stops working, but it's bad enough that it 
>>>> definitely has the potential that at any moment, it could get worse.  I 
>>>> have one cable now which is almost 98% sebbered all the way through both 
>>>> the insolation and the actual wire itself.  It's pretty pathetic.  It 
>>>> seems like most all my cables eventually are getting to this point, and I 
>>>> swear, I'm not misusing them.  I'm just plugging them in, and unplugging 
>>>> them as normal.
>>>>  
>>>> Apparently, I'm by far not the first person who's had this issue.  If you 
>>>> just Google online, you'll find lots of forums and blogs, etc. of people 
>>>> who've had the same issue quite regularly.  So apparently, it must not be 
>>>> just me.
>>>>  
>>>> Is it just these things are really badly designed?  I'm on hold right now 
>>>> waiting for Apple to pick up to see if maybe they can replace a few of 
>>>> these chords, but I'm not very hopeful.  They might, but I'm not counting 
>>>> on it.
>>>>  
>>>> I'm just wonderring if any of you guys have also found your cables 
>>>> tearing, getting cut, or worse on a consistent basis right at the tip of 
>>>> the cord like I am.  If so, what are you all doing to get around this, so 
>>>> you don't have to keep buying cord after cord after cord every few months. 
>>>>  This alone is starting to make me reconsider iOS devices.  At least, ones 
>>>> with lightning connecters.
>>>>  
>>>> Lightning's great, but the cords appear to be crap in my opinion based 
>>>> soly on what I so far have observed.  Again, that's stated as an opinion, 
>>>> not a fact.  Keep that in mind.
>>>>  
>>>> Chris.
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Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Yup?  yup yup yup?  That's exactly what it looks like here.  Great way a 
putting it.  It looks like someone chewed right through the cord.  Like it's 
cut almost down to the bare wire, if not worse.

Chris.

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Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Donna Goodin]

I have also never experienced this.
Cheers,
Donna
> On May 14, 2016, at 2:21 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> I have heard similar reports of breakage, yes, but must admit that I’ve never 
> personally experienced it and can’t really put a finger on what on earth 
> might be going on.  I have experienced the common problem of lint getting 
> stuck in the connector at either end of the cable and sometimes in the 
> Lightning port itself, but never breakage that isn’t repairable, often by 
> just blowing on the affected connector or port.
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Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Jessica Moss]

That may have been the culprit on my end as well.  I use an external battery 
pack, that’s somewhat large, and when I’m getting ready to carry it somewhere, 
I rap the cable around the pack itself, which is square-shaped, and put it into 
my bag, and when the cable messed up, it almost looked on each end, like 
someone chewed on it, or nicked it.
> On May 14, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Chris,
>  
> I’ve had a iPhone 5s, 6 and now the 6sPlus,
> Approx. 4 different iPad minis  2 of the mini 3 and now on my mini 4 which is 
> my second, plus 3 iPod touchs of different storage capacity and all the 
> cables I’ve had seem to be fine thus far.
>  
> Ive sold the 2 iPad mini 3s and gave away my mini 4 16 gig  all with cables 
> and power adaptors  but as far as I’m aware the cables are all still fine.
>  
> I do however  have a couple of USB micro cables that I use with a lightening 
> adaptor as a secondary charging cable for my phone that I’m going to have to 
> throw away as they are breaking in that same spot,
>  
> I think it’s just ware and tear as well as how I wind them up toput away.
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
> Gilland
> Sent: Saturday, 14 May 2016 11:23 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Consistently degrading lightning cables
>  
> OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.
>  
> Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use lightning cables.  
> Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S, a few Apple TV 4's, etc.
>  
> Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months roughly, it seems like the 
> end of the insolation right where the lightning connector is that goes into 
> the device, that area seems to keep getting cut/torn.  Usually it's not so 
> bad that the cable stops working, but it's bad enough that it definitely has 
> the potential that at any moment, it could get worse.  I have one cable now 
> which is almost 98% sebbered all the way through both the insolation and the 
> actual wire itself.  It's pretty pathetic.  It seems like most all my cables 
> eventually are getting to this point, and I swear, I'm not misusing them.  
> I'm just plugging them in, and unplugging them as normal.
>  
> Apparently, I'm by far not the first person who's had this issue.  If you 
> just Google online, you'll find lots of forums and blogs, etc. of people 
> who've had the same issue quite regularly.  So apparently, it must not be 
> just me.
>  
> Is it just these things are really badly designed?  I'm on hold right now 
> waiting for Apple to pick up to see if maybe they can replace a few of these 
> chords, but I'm not very hopeful.  They might, but I'm not counting on it.
>  
> I'm just wonderring if any of you guys have also found your cables tearing, 
> getting cut, or worse on a consistent basis right at the tip of the cord like 
> I am.  If so, what are you all doing to get around this, so you don't have to 
> keep buying cord after cord after cord every few months.  This alone is 
> starting to make me reconsider iOS devices.  At least, ones with lightning 
> connecters.
>  
> Lightning's great, but the cords appear to be crap in my opinion based soly 
> on what I so far have observed.  Again, that's stated as an opinion, not a 
> fact.  Keep that in mind.
>  
> Chris.
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RE: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Simon Fogarty]

May be that is why I'm not yet getting this breakage issue as I'm still using a 
cable from I think it's my 5s  or possibly one of my ipods I know for sure it's 
notfrom my iPhone .

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On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Sent: Saturday, 14 May 2016 7:21 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

I have heard similar reports of breakage, yes, but must admit that I’ve never 
personally experienced it and can’t really put a finger on what on earth might 
be going on.  I have experienced the common problem of lint getting stuck in 
the connector at either end of the cable and sometimes in the Lightning port 
itself, but never breakage that isn’t repairable, often by just blowing on the 
affected connector or port.

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RE: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Chris,

I’ve had a iPhone 5s, 6 and now the 6sPlus,
Approx. 4 different iPad minis  2 of the mini 3 and now on my mini 4 which is 
my second, plus 3 iPod touchs of different storage capacity and all the cables 
I’ve had seem to be fine thus far.

Ive sold the 2 iPad mini 3s and gave away my mini 4 16 gig  all with cables and 
power adaptors  but as far as I’m aware the cables are all still fine.

I do however  have a couple of USB micro cables that I use with a lightening 
adaptor as a secondary charging cable for my phone that I’m going to have to 
throw away as they are breaking in that same spot,

I think it’s just ware and tear as well as how I wind them up toput away.
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Saturday, 14 May 2016 11:23 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Consistently degrading lightning cables

OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.

Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use lightning cables.  
Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S, a few Apple TV 4's, etc.

Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months roughly, it seems like the 
end of the insolation right where the lightning connector is that goes into the 
device, that area seems to keep getting cut/torn.  Usually it's not so bad that 
the cable stops working, but it's bad enough that it definitely has the 
potential that at any moment, it could get worse.  I have one cable now which 
is almost 98% sebbered all the way through both the insolation and the actual 
wire itself.  It's pretty pathetic.  It seems like most all my cables 
eventually are getting to this point, and I swear, I'm not misusing them.  I'm 
just plugging them in, and unplugging them as normal.

Apparently, I'm by far not the first person who's had this issue.  If you just 
Google online, you'll find lots of forums and blogs, etc. of people who've had 
the same issue quite regularly.  So apparently, it must not be just me.

Is it just these things are really badly designed?  I'm on hold right now 
waiting for Apple to pick up to see if maybe they can replace a few of these 
chords, but I'm not very hopeful.  They might, but I'm not counting on it.

I'm just wonderring if any of you guys have also found your cables tearing, 
getting cut, or worse on a consistent basis right at the tip of the cord like I 
am.  If so, what are you all doing to get around this, so you don't have to 
keep buying cord after cord after cord every few months.  This alone is 
starting to make me reconsider iOS devices.  At least, ones with lightning 
connecters.

Lightning's great, but the cords appear to be crap in my opinion based soly on 
what I so far have observed.  Again, that's stated as an opinion, not a fact.  
Keep that in mind.

Chris.
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Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

I have heard similar reports of breakage, yes, but must admit that I’ve never 
personally experienced it and can’t really put a finger on what on earth might 
be going on.  I have experienced the common problem of lint getting stuck in 
the connector at either end of the cable and sometimes in the Lightning port 
itself, but never breakage that isn’t repairable, often by just blowing on the 
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Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Jed Barton]

I ahve a 6, and i am seeing this as well.

On 5/14/2016 2:37 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

This problem seems to be happening more with the 6th series than the
5th.  Not sure why, but that's just the bad luck of the draw for me.  LOL!
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- Original Message -
*From:* Katie Zodrow <mailto:kzodrow...@att.net>
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Friday, May 13, 2016 11:34 PM
    *Subject:* Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

Hi Mary. Me too. I haven't had this problem at all with my iPhone 5s
and I've had it for almost 2 years now. My lightning cable works
great for charging the phone and the end of the court has never broken.
Katie
Sent from my iPhone

On May 13, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com
<mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I have not noticed this problem on the 5S, a 6s, or an iPad mini.
Just three devices, but no problems.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On May 13, 2016, at 4:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:


OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.

Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use
lightning cables.  Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S,
a few Apple TV 4's, etc.

Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months roughly, it
seems like the end of the insolation right where the lightning
connector is that goes into the device, that area seems to keep
getting cut/torn.  Usually it's not so bad that the cable stops
working, but it's bad enough that it definitely has the potential
that at any moment, it could get worse.  I have one cable now
which is almost 98% sebbered all the way through both the
insolation and the actual wire itself.  It's pretty pathetic.  It
seems like most all my cables eventually are getting to this
point, and I swear, I'm not misusing them.  I'm just plugging
them in, and unplugging them as normal.

Apparently, I'm by far not the first person who's had this
issue.  If you just Google online, you'll find lots of forums and
blogs, etc. of people who've had the same issue quite regularly.
So apparently, it must not be just me.

Is it just these things are really badly designed?  I'm on hold
right now waiting for Apple to pick up to see if maybe they can
replace a few of these chords, but I'm not very hopeful.  They
might, but I'm not counting on it.

I'm just wonderring if any of you guys have also found your
cables tearing, getting cut, or worse on a consistent basis right
at the tip of the cord like I am.  If so, what are you all doing
to get around this, so you don't have to keep buying cord after
cord after cord every few months.  This alone is starting to make
me reconsider iOS devices.  At least, ones with lightning connecters.

Lightning's great, but the cords appear to be crap in my opinion
based soly on what I so far have observed.  Again, that's stated
as an opinion, not a fact.  Keep that in mind.

Chris.

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Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

This problem seems to be happening more with the 6th series than the 5th.  Not 
sure why, but that's just the bad luck of the draw for me.  LOL!
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Katie Zodrow 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 11:34 PM
  Subject: Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables


  Hi Mary. Me too. I haven't had this problem at all with my iPhone 5s and I've 
had it for almost 2 years now. My lightning cable works great for charging the 
phone and the end of the court has never broken.
  Katie
  Sent from my iPhone

  On May 13, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:


I have not noticed this problem on the 5S, a 6s, or an iPad mini. Just 
three devices, but no problems.
Mary



Sent from my iPhone

On May 13, 2016, at 4:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


  OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.

  Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use lightning 
cables.  Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S, a few Apple TV 4's, etc.

  Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months roughly, it seems like 
the end of the insolation right where the lightning connector is that goes into 
the device, that area seems to keep getting cut/torn.  Usually it's not so bad 
that the cable stops working, but it's bad enough that it definitely has the 
potential that at any moment, it could get worse.  I have one cable now which 
is almost 98% sebbered all the way through both the insolation and the actual 
wire itself.  It's pretty pathetic.  It seems like most all my cables 
eventually are getting to this point, and I swear, I'm not misusing them.  I'm 
just plugging them in, and unplugging them as normal.

  Apparently, I'm by far not the first person who's had this issue.  If you 
just Google online, you'll find lots of forums and blogs, etc. of people who've 
had the same issue quite regularly.  So apparently, it must not be just me.

  Is it just these things are really badly designed?  I'm on hold right now 
waiting for Apple to pick up to see if maybe they can replace a few of these 
chords, but I'm not very hopeful.  They might, but I'm not counting on it.

  I'm just wonderring if any of you guys have also found your cables 
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cord like I am.  If so, what are you all doing to get around this, so you don't 
have to keep buying cord after cord after cord every few months.  This alone is 
starting to make me reconsider iOS devices.  At least, ones with lightning 
connecters.

  Lightning's great, but the cords appear to be crap in my opinion based 
soly on what I so far have observed.  Again, that's stated as an opinion, not a 
fact.  Keep that in mind.

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Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Katie Zodrow]

Hi Mary. Me too. I haven't had this problem at all with my iPhone 5s and I've 
had it for almost 2 years now. My lightning cable works great for charging the 
phone and the end of the court has never broken.
Katie
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I have not noticed this problem on the 5S, a 6s, or an iPad mini. Just three 
> devices, but no problems.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 13, 2016, at 4:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.
>>  
>> Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use lightning cables.  
>> Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S, a few Apple TV 4's, etc.
>>  
>> Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months roughly, it seems like 
>> the end of the insolation right where the lightning connector is that goes 
>> into the device, that area seems to keep getting cut/torn.  Usually it's not 
>> so bad that the cable stops working, but it's bad enough that it definitely 
>> has the potential that at any moment, it could get worse.  I have one cable 
>> now which is almost 98% sebbered all the way through both the insolation and 
>> the actual wire itself.  It's pretty pathetic.  It seems like most all my 
>> cables eventually are getting to this point, and I swear, I'm not misusing 
>> them.  I'm just plugging them in, and unplugging them as normal.
>>  
>> Apparently, I'm by far not the first person who's had this issue.  If you 
>> just Google online, you'll find lots of forums and blogs, etc. of people 
>> who've had the same issue quite regularly.  So apparently, it must not be 
>> just me.
>>  
>> Is it just these things are really badly designed?  I'm on hold right now 
>> waiting for Apple to pick up to see if maybe they can replace a few of these 
>> chords, but I'm not very hopeful.  They might, but I'm not counting on it.
>>  
>> I'm just wonderring if any of you guys have also found your cables tearing, 
>> getting cut, or worse on a consistent basis right at the tip of the cord 
>> like I am.  If so, what are you all doing to get around  this, so you don't 
>> have to keep buying cord after cord after cord every few months.  This alone 
>> is starting to make me reconsider iOS devices.  At least, ones with 
>> lightning connecters.
>>  
>> Lightning's great, but the cords appear to be crap in my opinion based soly 
>> on what I so far have observed.  Again, that's stated as an opinion, not a 
>> fact.  Keep that in mind.
>>  
>> Chris.
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Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Yeah, that's the only thing I can even remotely think is happening is maybe 
I am pulling the cord without knowing it.

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Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables


   Everything has an Achilles heel and cables are definitely Achilles 
heels. That said, my iPhone 5 is over 3 years old and none of the 
lightning cables (I cannot tell which is the oldest) is in fine condition.


   The design of the lightning connector makes it difficult to grasp so 
its possible that one pulls on the cable.


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On 5/13/2016 4:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.
Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use lightning
cables.  Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S, a few Apple TV
4's, etc.
Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months roughly, it seems
like the end of the insolation right where the lightning connector is
that goes into the device, that area seems to keep getting cut/torn.
Usually it's not so bad that the cable stops working, but it's bad
enough that it definitely has the potential that at any moment, it could
get worse.  I have one cable now which is almost 98% sebbered all the
way through both the insolation and the actual wire itself.  It's pretty
pathetic.  It seems like most all my cables eventually are getting to
this point, and I swear, I'm not misusing them.  I'm just plugging them
in, and unplugging them as normal.
Apparently, I'm by far not the first person who's had this issue.  If
you just Google online, you'll find lots of forums and blogs, etc. of
people who've had the same issue quite regularly.  So apparently, it
must not be just me.
Is it just these things are really badly designed?  I'm on hold right
now waiting for Apple to pick up to see if maybe they can replace a few
of these chords, but I'm not very hopeful. They might, but I'm not
counting on it.
I'm just wonderring if any of you guys have also found your cables
tearing, getting cut, or worse on a consistent basis right at the tip of
the cord like I am.  If so, what are you all doing to get around this,
so you don't have to keep buying cord after cord after cord every few
months.  This alone is starting to make me reconsider iOS devices.  At
least, ones with lightning connecters.
Lightning's great, but the cords appear to be crap in my opinion based
soly on what I so far have observed.  Again, that's stated as an
opinion, not a fact.  Keep that in mind.
Chris.

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Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I’m with Mary I haven’t had any major problems with the standard ones that come 
with Apple devices. But I did want to chime in and say that it’s been my 
experience that if you upgrade to the 2 meter or 6ft long version of Apple’s 
lightning cable it does seem to be slightly thicker and thus seems to be 
sturdier than its shorter counterpart.  Perhaps that might be worth 
investigating as it might be more to the liking of those having difficulties.
I know that if one has Apple Care you can get a free standard cable replacement.
Robin


From: Mary Otten 
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 8:14 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

I have not noticed this problem on the 5S, a 6s, or an iPad mini. Just three 
devices, but no problems.
Mary



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On May 13, 2016, at 4:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


  OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.

  Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use lightning cables.  
Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S, a few Apple TV 4's, etc.

  Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months roughly, it seems like the 
end of the insolation right where the lightning connector is that goes into the 
device, that area seems to keep getting cut/torn.  Usually it's not so bad that 
the cable stops working, but it's bad enough that it definitely has the 
potential that at any moment, it could get worse.  I have one cable now which 
is almost 98% sebbered all the way through both the insolation and the actual 
wire itself.  It's pretty pathetic.  It seems like most all my cables 
eventually are getting to this point, and I swear, I'm not misusing them.  I'm 
just plugging them in, and unplugging them as normal.

  Apparently, I'm by far not the first person who's had this issue.  If you 
just Google online, you'll find lots of forums and blogs, etc. of people who've 
had the same issue quite regularly.  So apparently, it must not be just me.

  Is it just these things are really badly designed?  I'm on hold right now 
waiting for Apple to pick up to see if maybe they can replace a few of these 
chords, but I'm not very hopeful.  They might, but I'm not counting on it.

  I'm just wonderring if any of you guys have also found your cables tearing, 
getting cut, or worse on a consistent basis right at the tip of the cord like I 
am.  If so, what are you all doing to get around this, so you don't have to 
keep buying cord after cord after cord every few months.  This alone is 
starting to make me reconsider iOS devices.  At least, ones with lightning 
connecters.

  Lightning's great, but the cords appear to be crap in my opinion based soly 
on what I so far have observed.  Again, that's stated as an opinion, not a 
fact.  Keep that in mind.

  Chris.
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Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Jessica Moss]

I have unfortunately.  They’re a pain in the neck to take hold of, and with the 
older ones I got with my phone, they were thin and a bit on the slippery side.
  The ones I ordered have a thicker casing, so they’re not as hard to handel, 
and I try to grab them closer to the plug itself so I don’t bend the wires.
> On May 13, 2016, at 8:26 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Everything has an Achilles heel and cables are definitely Achilles heels. 
> That said, my iPhone 5 is over 3 years old and none of the lightning cables 
> (I cannot tell which is the oldest) is in fine condition.
> 
>   The design of the lightning connector makes it difficult to grasp so its 
> possible that one pulls on the cable.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> On 5/13/2016 4:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.
>> Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use lightning
>> cables.  Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S, a few Apple TV
>> 4's, etc.
>> Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months roughly, it seems
>> like the end of the insolation right where the lightning connector is
>> that goes into the device, that area seems to keep getting cut/torn.
>> Usually it's not so bad that the cable stops working, but it's bad
>> enough that it definitely has the potential that at any moment, it could
>> get worse.  I have one cable now which is almost 98% sebbered all the
>> way through both the insolation and the actual wire itself.  It's pretty
>> pathetic.  It seems like most all my cables eventually are getting to
>> this point, and I swear, I'm not misusing them.  I'm just plugging them
>> in, and unplugging them as normal.
>> Apparently, I'm by far not the first person who's had this issue.  If
>> you just Google online, you'll find lots of forums and blogs, etc. of
>> people who've had the same issue quite regularly.  So apparently, it
>> must not be just me.
>> Is it just these things are really badly designed?  I'm on hold right
>> now waiting for Apple to pick up to see if maybe they can replace a few
>> of these chords, but I'm not very hopeful. They might, but I'm not
>> counting on it.
>> I'm just wonderring if any of you guys have also found your cables
>> tearing, getting cut, or worse on a consistent basis right at the tip of
>> the cord like I am.  If so, what are you all doing to get around this,
>> so you don't have to keep buying cord after cord after cord every few
>> months.  This alone is starting to make me reconsider iOS devices.  At
>> least, ones with lightning connecters.
>> Lightning's great, but the cords appear to be crap in my opinion based
>> soly on what I so far have observed.  Again, that's stated as an
>> opinion, not a fact.  Keep that in mind.
>> Chris.
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[E.T.]

   Everything has an Achilles heel and cables are definitely Achilles 
heels. That said, my iPhone 5 is over 3 years old and none of the 
lightning cables (I cannot tell which is the oldest) is in fine condition.


   The design of the lightning connector makes it difficult to grasp so 
its possible that one pulls on the cable.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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On 5/13/2016 4:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.
Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use lightning
cables.  Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S, a few Apple TV
4's, etc.
Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months roughly, it seems
like the end of the insolation right where the lightning connector is
that goes into the device, that area seems to keep getting cut/torn.
Usually it's not so bad that the cable stops working, but it's bad
enough that it definitely has the potential that at any moment, it could
get worse.  I have one cable now which is almost 98% sebbered all the
way through both the insolation and the actual wire itself.  It's pretty
pathetic.  It seems like most all my cables eventually are getting to
this point, and I swear, I'm not misusing them.  I'm just plugging them
in, and unplugging them as normal.
Apparently, I'm by far not the first person who's had this issue.  If
you just Google online, you'll find lots of forums and blogs, etc. of
people who've had the same issue quite regularly.  So apparently, it
must not be just me.
Is it just these things are really badly designed?  I'm on hold right
now waiting for Apple to pick up to see if maybe they can replace a few
of these chords, but I'm not very hopeful. They might, but I'm not
counting on it.
I'm just wonderring if any of you guys have also found your cables
tearing, getting cut, or worse on a consistent basis right at the tip of
the cord like I am.  If so, what are you all doing to get around this,
so you don't have to keep buying cord after cord after cord every few
months.  This alone is starting to make me reconsider iOS devices.  At
least, ones with lightning connecters.
Lightning's great, but the cords appear to be crap in my opinion based
soly on what I so far have observed.  Again, that's stated as an
opinion, not a fact.  Keep that in mind.
Chris.

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[Mary Otten]

I have not noticed this problem on the 5S, a 6s, or an iPad mini. Just three 
devices, but no problems.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2016, at 4:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.
>  
> Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use lightning cables.  
> Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S, a few Apple TV 4's, etc.
>  
> Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months roughly, it seems like the 
> end of the insolation right where the lightning connector is that goes into 
> the device, that area seems to keep getting cut/torn.  Usually it's not so 
> bad that the cable stops working, but it's bad enough that it definitely has 
> the potential that at any moment, it could get worse.  I have one cable now 
> which is almost 98% sebbered all the way through both the insolation and the 
> actual wire itself.  It's pretty pathetic.  It seems like most all my cables 
> eventually are getting to this point, and I swear, I'm not misusing them.  
> I'm just plugging them in, and unplugging them as normal.
>  
> Apparently, I'm by far not the first person who's had this issue.  If you 
> just Google online, you'll find lots of forums and blogs, etc. of people 
> who've had the same issue quite regularly.  So apparently, it must not be 
> just me.
>  
> Is it just these things are really badly designed?  I'm on hold right now 
> waiting for Apple to pick up to see if maybe they can replace a few of these 
> chords, but I'm not very hopeful.  They might, but I'm not counting on it.
>  
> I'm just wonderring if any of you guys have also found your cables tearing, 
> getting cut, or worse on a consistent basis right at the tip of the cord like 
> I am.  If so, what are you all doing to get around this, so you don't have to 
> keep buying cord after cord after cord every few months.  This alone is 
> starting to make me reconsider iOS devices.  At least, ones with lightning 
> connecters.
>  
> Lightning's great, but the cords appear to be crap in my opinion based soly 
> on what I so far have observed.  Again, that's stated as an opinion, not a 
> fact.  Keep that in mind.
>  
> Chris.
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Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Jessica Moss]

Amen, have had that issue with the one I got with my Iphone 5C, and hadn’t even 
had it a year.  It severed at both ends, and eventually just stopped working 
altogether.
  My advice, Don’t wait for Apple to replace them, look on amazon.  You’ll find 
so many deals there where you can find about 3 or more of them at a really low 
price, and they’ll be a lot longer in length than the ones Apple makes.
  I bought a 3 pack really cheap, and they were about 3 feet I think, and a lot 
thicker than the ones Apple sends you.  You just need to double check and make 
sure it says made for apple Iphone, and check the reviews on it before you 
purchase them, which I would imagine you knew anyway, but thought I’d throw 
that in there just in case.
> On May 13, 2016, at 7:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.
>  
> Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use lightning cables.  
> Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S, a few Apple TV 4's, etc.
>  
> Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months roughly, it seems like the 
> end of the insolation right where the lightning connector is that goes into 
> the device, that area seems to keep getting cut/torn.  Usually it's not so 
> bad that the cable stops working, but it's bad enough that it definitely has 
> the potential that at any moment, it could get worse.  I have one cable now 
> which is almost 98% sebbered all the way through both the insolation and the 
> actual wire itself.  It's pretty pathetic.  It seems like most all my cables 
> eventually are getting to this point, and I swear, I'm not misusing them.  
> I'm just plugging them in, and unplugging them as normal.
>  
> Apparently, I'm by far not the first person who's had this issue.  If you 
> just Google online, you'll find lots of forums and blogs, etc. of people 
> who've had the same issue quite regularly.  So apparently, it must not be 
> just me.
>  
> Is it just these things are really badly designed?  I'm on hold right now 
> waiting for Apple to pick up to see if maybe they can replace a few of these 
> chords, but I'm not very hopeful.  They might, but I'm not counting on it.
>  
> I'm just wonderring if any of you guys have also found your cables tearing, 
> getting cut, or worse on a consistent basis right at the tip of the cord like 
> I am.  If so, what are you all doing to get around this, so you don't have to 
> keep buying cord after cord after cord every few months.  This alone is 
> starting to make me reconsider iOS devices.  At least, ones with lightning 
> connecters.
>  
> Lightning's great, but the cords appear to be crap in my opinion based soly 
> on what I so far have observed.  Again, that's stated as an opinion, not a 
> fact.  Keep that in mind.
>  
> Chris.
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Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.

Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use lightning cables.  
Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S, a few Apple TV 4's, etc.

Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months roughly, it seems like the 
end of the insolation right where the lightning connector is that goes into the 
device, that area seems to keep getting cut/torn.  Usually it's not so bad that 
the cable stops working, but it's bad enough that it definitely has the 
potential that at any moment, it could get worse.  I have one cable now which 
is almost 98% sebbered all the way through both the insolation and the actual 
wire itself.  It's pretty pathetic.  It seems like most all my cables 
eventually are getting to this point, and I swear, I'm not misusing them.  I'm 
just plugging them in, and unplugging them as normal.

Apparently, I'm by far not the first person who's had this issue.  If you just 
Google online, you'll find lots of forums and blogs, etc. of people who've had 
the same issue quite regularly.  So apparently, it must not be just me.

Is it just these things are really badly designed?  I'm on hold right now 
waiting for Apple to pick up to see if maybe they can replace a few of these 
chords, but I'm not very hopeful.  They might, but I'm not counting on it.

I'm just wonderring if any of you guys have also found your cables tearing, 
getting cut, or worse on a consistent basis right at the tip of the cord like I 
am.  If so, what are you all doing to get around this, so you don't have to 
keep buying cord after cord after cord every few months.  This alone is 
starting to make me reconsider iOS devices.  At least, ones with lightning 
connecters.

Lightning's great, but the cords appear to be crap in my opinion based soly on 
what I so far have observed.  Again, that's stated as an opinion, not a fact.  
Keep that in mind.

Chris.

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