Re: I did it!

[Scott Granados]

Couldn’t you run around me or some other app in parallel which alerts you to 
your location in near realtime?


> On May 18, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I haven't found a way that is accessible for you to be able to track your 
> actual location but if you keep the Uber app open while you are on the ride 
> it should keep updating your ETA so you can see that. Also, if you tap on the 
> trip options but then there is a button to share your ETA. You have several 
> options of how to do that and one of them is messaging. If you choose that 
> and select who you want to send it to that person will get a text message 
> with a link they can click on. That will take them to a map of your specific 
> ride where they can follow in real time where you are. I have done this a few 
> times and people really appreciate being able to follow my ride especially 
> later at night because it shows them in real time where I am and then they 
> can see when I arrive at my destination.
> Hope that helps answer some of those questions.
> Gabe
> 
> 
> Sent from Gabe's iPhone
> 
>> On May 18, 2016, at 2:59 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Gabe:
>> Is there away to track your trip using the Uber app? Not onlyis Uber 
>> cheaper, but it is safer too.
>>> On May 17, 2016, at 11:13 PM, Gabe Griffith  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> In my opinion Uber is much superior to cabs. I won't bore anyone unless 
>>> someone asks but I could give several reasons why I think Uber is a much 
>>> better option for a blind person than is using a cab. The interface on the 
>>> iPhone with VO is very easy to use as well.
>>> 
>>> Gabe
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 17, 2016, at 7:57 AM, Scott  wrote:
 
 Score one for the disrupters, glad to hear your Uber experience was a good 
 one.  I’ve yet to try it but I will the next time the opportunity presents 
 itself.  I’ve heard a lot of good things from both blind Android and IOS 
 users which sounds like Uber is far superior to cabs in many ways.
 
 Glad it went well.
 
> On May 13, 2016, at 4:50 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
>  wrote:
> 
> I finally used Uber for the first time! Even with serge pricing, it was 
> way cheaper than taxis. Had no issues with the dog.
> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
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Re: I did it!

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Thanks. I guess I ould take my Breeze, but I was just trying to take my phone.
> On May 18, 2016, at 6:07 PM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I haven't found a way that is accessible for you to be able to track your 
> actual location but if you keep the Uber app open while you are on the ride 
> it should keep updating your ETA so you can see that. Also, if you tap on the 
> trip options but then there is a button to share your ETA. You have several 
> options of how to do that and one of them is messaging. If you choose that 
> and select who you want to send it to that person will get a text message 
> with a link they can click on. That will take them to a map of your specific 
> ride where they can follow in real time where you are. I have done this a few 
> times and people really appreciate being able to follow my ride especially 
> later at night because it shows them in real time where I am and then they 
> can see when I arrive at my destination.
> Hope that helps answer some of those questions.
> Gabe
> 
> 
> Sent from Gabe's iPhone
> 
>> On May 18, 2016, at 2:59 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Gabe:
>> Is there away to track your trip using the Uber app? Not onlyis Uber 
>> cheaper, but it is safer too.
>>> On May 17, 2016, at 11:13 PM, Gabe Griffith  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> In my opinion Uber is much superior to cabs. I won't bore anyone unless 
>>> someone asks but I could give several reasons why I think Uber is a much 
>>> better option for a blind person than is using a cab. The interface on the 
>>> iPhone with VO is very easy to use as well.
>>> 
>>> Gabe
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 17, 2016, at 7:57 AM, Scott  wrote:
 
 Score one for the disrupters, glad to hear your Uber experience was a good 
 one.  I’ve yet to try it but I will the next time the opportunity presents 
 itself.  I’ve heard a lot of good things from both blind Android and IOS 
 users which sounds like Uber is far superior to cabs in many ways.
 
 Glad it went well.
 
> On May 13, 2016, at 4:50 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
>  wrote:
> 
> I finally used Uber for the first time! Even with serge pricing, it was 
> way cheaper than taxis. Had no issues with the dog.
> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
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Re: I did it!

[Gabe Griffith]

Hi,
I haven't found a way that is accessible for you to be able to track your 
actual location but if you keep the Uber app open while you are on the ride it 
should keep updating your ETA so you can see that. Also, if you tap on the trip 
options but then there is a button to share your ETA. You have several options 
of how to do that and one of them is messaging. If you choose that and select 
who you want to send it to that person will get a text message with a link they 
can click on. That will take them to a map of your specific ride where they can 
follow in real time where you are. I have done this a few times and people 
really appreciate being able to follow my ride especially later at night 
because it shows them in real time where I am and then they can see when I 
arrive at my destination.
Hope that helps answer some of those questions.
Gabe


Sent from Gabe's iPhone

> On May 18, 2016, at 2:59 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
> 
> Gabe:
> Is there away to track your trip using the Uber app? Not onlyis Uber cheaper, 
> but it is safer too.
>> On May 17, 2016, at 11:13 PM, Gabe Griffith  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> In my opinion Uber is much superior to cabs. I won't bore anyone unless 
>> someone asks but I could give several reasons why I think Uber is a much 
>> better option for a blind person than is using a cab. The interface on the 
>> iPhone with VO is very easy to use as well.
>> 
>> Gabe
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 17, 2016, at 7:57 AM, Scott  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Score one for the disrupters, glad to hear your Uber experience was a good 
>>> one.  I’ve yet to try it but I will the next time the opportunity presents 
>>> itself.  I’ve heard a lot of good things from both blind Android and IOS 
>>> users which sounds like Uber is far superior to cabs in many ways.
>>> 
>>> Glad it went well.
>>> 
 On May 13, 2016, at 4:50 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
  wrote:
 
 I finally used Uber for the first time! Even with serge pricing, it was 
 way cheaper than taxis. Had no issues with the dog.
 Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
 
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Re: I did it!

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Gabe:
Is there away to track your trip using the Uber app? Not onlyis Uber cheaper, 
but it is safer too.
> On May 17, 2016, at 11:13 PM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> In my opinion Uber is much superior to cabs. I won't bore anyone unless 
> someone asks but I could give several reasons why I think Uber is a much 
> better option for a blind person than is using a cab. The interface on the 
> iPhone with VO is very easy to use as well.
> 
> Gabe
> 
> 
> On May 17, 2016, at 7:57 AM, Scott  wrote:
> 
>> Score one for the disrupters, glad to hear your Uber experience was a good 
>> one.  I’ve yet to try it but I will the next time the opportunity presents 
>> itself.  I’ve heard a lot of good things from both blind Android and IOS 
>> users which sounds like Uber is far superior to cabs in many ways.
>> 
>> Glad it went well.
>> 
>>> On May 13, 2016, at 4:50 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I finally used Uber for the first time! Even with serge pricing, it was way 
>>> cheaper than taxis. Had no issues with the dog.
>>> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
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Re: I did it!

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

I was happy.
> On May 17, 2016, at 9:57 AM, Scott  wrote:
> 
> Score one for the disrupters, glad to hear your Uber experience was a good 
> one.  I’ve yet to try it but I will the next time the opportunity presents 
> itself.  I’ve heard a lot of good things from both blind Android and IOS 
> users which sounds like Uber is far superior to cabs in many ways.
> 
> Glad it went well.
> 
>> On May 13, 2016, at 4:50 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I finally used Uber for the first time! Even with serge pricing, it was way 
>> cheaper than taxis. Had no issues with the dog.
>> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
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Re: I did it!

[Gabe Griffith]

Hi,

In my opinion Uber is much superior to cabs. I won't bore anyone unless someone 
asks but I could give several reasons why I think Uber is a much better option 
for a blind person than is using a cab. The interface on the iPhone with VO is 
very easy to use as well.

Gabe


On May 17, 2016, at 7:57 AM, Scott  wrote:

> Score one for the disrupters, glad to hear your Uber experience was a good 
> one.  I’ve yet to try it but I will the next time the opportunity presents 
> itself.  I’ve heard a lot of good things from both blind Android and IOS 
> users which sounds like Uber is far superior to cabs in many ways.
> 
> Glad it went well.
> 
>> On May 13, 2016, at 4:50 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I finally used Uber for the first time! Even with serge pricing, it was way 
>> cheaper than taxis. Had no issues with the dog.
>> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
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Re: I did it!

[Scott]

Score one for the disrupters, glad to hear your Uber experience was a good one. 
 I’ve yet to try it but I will the next time the opportunity presents itself.  
I’ve heard a lot of good things from both blind Android and IOS users which 
sounds like Uber is far superior to cabs in many ways.

Glad it went well.

> On May 13, 2016, at 4:50 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
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I did it!

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

I finally used Uber for the first time! Even with serge pricing, it was way 
cheaper than taxis. Had no issues with the dog.
Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

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RE: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Myrna Votta]

Hi Eileen,

I have been very busy lately, so I didn't get around to really looking at my 
Gmail box until tonight.  Sorry that I didn't reply sooner.

Apparently, Apple has put an accessible watch, one that we can try out with 
VoiceOver, in all of their stores.  There is supposedly a number that we can 
call, let them know that we want to use Voiceover, and they can make an 
appointment for us to visit a store of our choosing.  Unfortunately, I don't 
know the number, but, I think that if you call a store, they can help.  When I 
ordered, I was told that my watch would be coming in June, but the person who 
took my order told me to keep checking with the online apple store under "order 
status," because watches have been delivered sooner than Apple had expected 
them to be ready.  A week ago, I did receive an e-mail, letting me know that my 
watch would be delivered within three to five week.  So, that means that I 
should have it sometime this month.  Have you heard David Woodbridge's Applevis 
podcast on unboxing and setting up the watch?  It is very informative.  I 
downloaded it from iBlink Radio and I saved it so that I can follow along when 
I receive my watch.

Myrna

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Subject: Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

HI   
HiHi Myrna,

Ohto to to You were so lucky to have a chance to try the VO feature. I went to 
the store a day after they were released. I didn't purchase yet, but was very 
tempted as a early birthday gift to myself. It's a big one this year, so I 
thought I would do it in grand style. I decided to wait for some feedback from 
other blind folks on how well accessibility works before placing an order. 
Well!!! Now I will need to wait until the summertime when they'll be more 
available. Anyways, I hope you make the right choice for yourself, "To Buy Or 
Not To Buy..." 

Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 23, 2015, at 2:20 PM, Myrna Votta  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Today, I visited the Apple Store on West 14th Street, in New York City.  I 
> really don’t know why I was so lucky, perhaps just picked the right store, 
> because when I told the sales person there that I knew that I wasn’t going to 
> be able to experience  Voiceover, she said that she was almost positive that 
> the store did have one accessible Apple watch so that blind visitors could 
> try Voiceover.  She had her colleague look for it and it was found.  
> Therefore, I had the opportunity to play with Voiceover and interact with the 
> screen.  I also had siri open the settings app for me.  The watch was the 
> 42mm sports model and I would say that the speaker sound level was like most 
> of the talking watches all of us have used.   The atmosphere in the store, as 
> in most of the Apple stores, of course, was noisy, so it was a bit difficult 
> to hear.  However, in a less noisy environment, I think that it will be fine. 
>  I did have the chance to try the 38mm model, which I liked even better than 
> the larger watch, which really isn’t that much larger.  The sales woman said 
> that she liked the look of it on my wrist better than the 42mm watch.  I did 
> try the band that comes with the sports model, the melanise band and the 
> leather loop band.  Although the sales woman and my friend really liked the 
> leather loop, I didn’t  I did, however, like the melanise band because it 
> felt like a mesh bracelet and it was very light.  I loved the design of the 
> watch and the feel of the glass.  Now, For me  “to order or not to order, 
> that is the question."
> 
> 
> Myrna
> 
>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 5:24 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> I'd like to know if a Braille display will work with the watch.  I'm going 
>> to try it when I get mine.
>> 
>> I thought the 42 Millimetre was heavy because of the stainless steal and the 
>> Safire Diamond.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> On 22 Apr 2015, at 14:56, Mika Pyyhkala  wrote:
>> 
>> I am still struggling with whether to get the 38mm or 42mm sport 
>> model; so I have both sizes on order.  But I want to cancel one.
>> 
>> I tried both sizes on and didn't notice a huge difference in feel.
>> Some have said the 42mm will have slightly better battery life.
>> 
>> I think it depends on what kinds of gestures and input one will need 
>> to do on the watch.  If having to actually type on the watch, it may 
>> be better to have the 42mm.
>> 
>> Anyone have ideas on pros and cons of the 38mm or 42mm size?
>> 
>> I think the watch will be helpful for notifications.  It 

Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Krysti .Power]

Thanks everyone was thinking about getting one when the price went down
thanks again

On Wednesday, April 29, 2015, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:

> No, Apple Watch requires iPhone 5 or later and won't work with an iPhone
> 4S.
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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

No, Apple Watch requires iPhone 5 or later and won't work with an iPhone 4S.

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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Terje Strømberg]

Map. When you say taps, do you mean like the heartbeat touch on the screen? Can 
you say what more it can do when using Map? How many taps is left and right?

Take care 

29. apr. 2015 kl. 02:28 skrev Deb Lewis :

The Apple Watch works with Map now so there's no reason it couldn't
work with oter GPs apps. It has different taps for left and right
turns.

On 4/28/15, Joe Quinn  wrote:
> No, 5 or later
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2015, at 5:24 PM, Krysti .Power 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> will the Apple Watch work with the iPhone 4S
>> 
>>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 6:49 PM, Lisette Wesseling
>>>  wrote:
>>> Donna,
>>> What size did you get? I don't know what size wrist/hands you have, but
>>> what did you think of each of the sizes?
>>> I'd love to see one, but no chance of that here in New Zealand for
>>> goodness knows how long. We don't have actual Apple stores here so we
>>> don't know which Apple re-sellers will be selling it here.
>>> 
>>> I'm on the fence about buying one. I don't really like talking watches so
>>> probably it wouldn't be a good buy for me. I'm still curious though.
>>> Definitely something I want to feel before I buy it.
>>> 
>>> Lisette
>>> 
 On 19/04/2015, at 8:22 am, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided to
 take a look at the Apple watch.  I was very interested in it, but not
 sure what I would think, based on the mixed reviews I've seen.  It was
 hard to tell much because they weren't able to demo voiceover, but I
 liked the form factor, and thought the stuff I was hearing from the
 video demo was pretty cool.  Since I have fourteen days to return it if
 I don't like it, I decided to go ahead and pre-order one.  I just got
 the aluminum sports model, because I figure it's highly likely that
 I'll want to upgrade when newer generations are released, so didn't see
 the sense in shelling out the extra $200.  Looking forward to its
 arrival and getting to actually put it through its paces.
 Cheers,
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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Deb Lewis]

The Apple Watch works with Map now so there's no reason it couldn't
work with oter GPs apps. It has different taps for left and right
turns.

On 4/28/15, Joe Quinn  wrote:
> No, 5 or later
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 28, 2015, at 5:24 PM, Krysti .Power 
>> wrote:
>>
>> will the Apple Watch work with the iPhone 4S
>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 6:49 PM, Lisette Wesseling
>>>  wrote:
>>> Donna,
>>> What size did you get? I don't know what size wrist/hands you have, but
>>> what did you think of each of the sizes?
>>> I'd love to see one, but no chance of that here in New Zealand for
>>> goodness knows how long. We don't have actual Apple stores here so we
>>> don't know which Apple re-sellers will be selling it here.
>>>
>>> I'm on the fence about buying one. I don't really like talking watches so
>>> probably it wouldn't be a good buy for me. I'm still curious though.
>>> Definitely something I want to feel before I buy it.
>>>
>>> Lisette
>>>
>>> > On 19/04/2015, at 8:22 am, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided to
>>> > take a look at the Apple watch.  I was very interested in it, but not
>>> > sure what I would think, based on the mixed reviews I've seen.  It was
>>> > hard to tell much because they weren't able to demo voiceover, but I
>>> > liked the form factor, and thought the stuff I was hearing from the
>>> > video demo was pretty cool.  Since I have fourteen days to return it if
>>> > I don't like it, I decided to go ahead and pre-order one.  I just got
>>> > the aluminum sports model, because I figure it's highly likely that
>>> > I'll want to upgrade when newer generations are released, so didn't see
>>> > the sense in shelling out the extra $200.  Looking forward to its
>>> > arrival and getting to actually put it through its paces.
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > Donna
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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Joe Quinn]

No, 5 or later 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 28, 2015, at 5:24 PM, Krysti .Power  wrote:
> 
> will the Apple Watch work with the iPhone 4S
> 
>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 6:49 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
>>  wrote:
>> Donna,
>> What size did you get? I don't know what size wrist/hands you have, but what 
>> did you think of each of the sizes?
>> I'd love to see one, but no chance of that here in New Zealand for goodness 
>> knows how long. We don't have actual Apple stores here so we don't know 
>> which Apple re-sellers will be selling it here.
>> 
>> I'm on the fence about buying one. I don't really like talking watches so 
>> probably it wouldn't be a good buy for me. I'm still curious though. 
>> Definitely something I want to feel before I buy it.
>> 
>> Lisette
>> 
>> > On 19/04/2015, at 8:22 am, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> >
>> > I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided to take 
>> > a look at the Apple watch.  I was very interested in it, but not sure what 
>> > I would think, based on the mixed reviews I've seen.  It was hard to tell 
>> > much because they weren't able to demo voiceover, but I liked the form 
>> > factor, and thought the stuff I was hearing from the video demo was pretty 
>> > cool.  Since I have fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, I 
>> > decided to go ahead and pre-order one.  I just got the aluminum sports 
>> > model, because I figure it's highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when 
>> > newer generations are released, so didn't see the sense in shelling out 
>> > the extra $200.  Looking forward to its arrival and getting to actually 
>> > put it through its paces.
>> > Cheers,
>> > Donna
>> >
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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Krysti .Power]

will the Apple Watch work with the iPhone 4S

On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 6:49 PM, Lisette Wesseling <
lisettewessel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Donna,
> What size did you get? I don't know what size wrist/hands you have, but
> what did you think of each of the sizes?
> I'd love to see one, but no chance of that here in New Zealand for
> goodness knows how long. We don't have actual Apple stores here so we don't
> know which Apple re-sellers will be selling it here.
>
> I'm on the fence about buying one. I don't really like talking watches so
> probably it wouldn't be a good buy for me. I'm still curious though.
> Definitely something I want to feel before I buy it.
>
> Lisette
>
> > On 19/04/2015, at 8:22 am, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> >
> > I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided to
> take a look at the Apple watch.  I was very interested in it, but not sure
> what I would think, based on the mixed reviews I've seen.  It was hard to
> tell much because they weren't able to demo voiceover, but I liked the form
> factor, and thought the stuff I was hearing from the video demo was pretty
> cool.  Since I have fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, I
> decided to go ahead and pre-order one.  I just got the aluminum sports
> model, because I figure it's highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when
> newer generations are released, so didn't see the sense in shelling out the
> extra $200.  Looking forward to its arrival and getting to actually put it
> through its paces.
> > Cheers,
> > Donna
> >
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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Brent Harding]

I would imagine that the notifications just stay on the phone then. I 
couldn't imagine having two devices both speaking though, unless VO doesn't 
speak that stuff when you have the watch on. It would be cool if the various 
GPS apps can start to use it, but I don't think batteries are big enough to 
last a meaningful amount of time doing something like that.


- Original Message - 
From: "Lisette Wesseling" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!


What happens if you're using neither device? Where do notifications go then?
Has anybody tried going for a walk with their watch while leaving the phone 
at home? Does it sync back up again without intervention? Does it add your 
steps? Still on the fence but curious.


Lisette


On 29/04/2015, at 1:31 am, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:

Yes, that entry just appeared on the Apple Support articles RSS feed so I 
forwarded it on list.  Somebody’s ears (at Apple) were burning, obviously. 
:)


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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Lisette,

My notifications go to both places.  I have gone for a walk without my phone, 
and it does sync up and keep track of your steps.
Best,
Donna
> On Apr 28, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
> wrote:
> 
> What happens if you're using neither device? Where do notifications go then?
> Has anybody tried going for a walk with their watch while leaving the phone 
> at home? Does it sync back up again without intervention? Does it add your 
> steps? Still on the fence but curious.
> 
> Lisette
> 
>> On 29/04/2015, at 1:31 am, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, that entry just appeared on the Apple Support articles RSS feed so I 
>> forwarded it on list.  Somebody’s ears (at Apple) were burning, obviously. :)
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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Lisette Wesseling]

What happens if you're using neither device? Where do notifications go then?
Has anybody tried going for a walk with their watch while leaving the phone at 
home? Does it sync back up again without intervention? Does it add your steps? 
Still on the fence but curious.

Lisette

> On 29/04/2015, at 1:31 am, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
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> forwarded it on list.  Somebody’s ears (at Apple) were burning, obviously. :)
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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Yes, that entry just appeared on the Apple Support articles RSS feed so I 
forwarded it on list.  Somebody’s ears (at Apple) were burning, obviously. :)

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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Donna Goodin]

I just got a support message from Apple saying that notifications will come to 
whichever device you are using at the time.  I wonder if that has something to 
do with this?

> On Apr 28, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
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> That is weird, indeed.  I’m not sure it’s even possible to turn off a 
> notification on your phone without also turning it off on the watch, is it?
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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

That is weird, indeed.  I’m not sure it’s even possible to turn off a 
notification on your phone without also turning it off on the watch, is it?

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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Donna Goodin]

That's interesting.  I'm not having that experience, my notifications are going 
to both the watch and the phone.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Apr 27, 2015, at 1:36 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
> 
> Well one problem I'm noticing with the Watch and Braiolle is that now
> none of my notifications are coming to the phone. They all come to the
> watch, but since there's no Braille support for the Watch they'd be
> lost altogether if I couldn't use the speech. I lov ete haptic
> feedback that I have a notification, but it's a little harder to get
> to them on the phone now.
> 
> On 4/27/15, Scott Davert  wrote:
>> Hello Myrna and Kawal.
>> No, the watch itself does not have braille support, but you can
>> control most, if not all, aspects of the watch through the iPhone app.
>> Myrna: I think the store on west 14th is my favorite in Manhatton,
>> followed by the one up by Central park. I was a bit underwhelmed at
>> the store in Grand Central.
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> On 4/23/15, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> Sorry, could you just clarify for me: were the watches you tried the
>>> sport
>>> models or the stainless steel models?  I've read lots of accounts of
>>> Apple
>>> stores carrying different sizes of watch, but not of the same type, and
>>> I'd
>>> be interested to know why people are opting for the steel model over the
>>> Sport if they are doing so, or whether their impression is true for both
>>> types.  The steel model seems to be reported as very chunky, and I'm
>>> wondering if the Sport improves on that.
>>> 
>>> The watches arriving tomorrow are both the Sport because I'm in trial
>>> mode
>>> with these things.  The wisdom of going to the Store to actually see them
>>> before ordering them is nothing to getting them tomorrow, and I can see
>>> all
>>> the others whenever my store next carries them. :)
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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Deb Lewis]

Well one problem I'm noticing with the Watch and Braiolle is that now
none of my notifications are coming to the phone. They all come to the
watch, but since there's no Braille support for the Watch they'd be
lost altogether if I couldn't use the speech. I lov ete haptic
feedback that I have a notification, but it's a little harder to get
to them on the phone now.

On 4/27/15, Scott Davert  wrote:
> Hello Myrna and Kawal.
> No, the watch itself does not have braille support, but you can
> control most, if not all, aspects of the watch through the iPhone app.
> Myrna: I think the store on west 14th is my favorite in Manhatton,
> followed by the one up by Central park. I was a bit underwhelmed at
> the store in Grand Central.
>
> Scott
>
> On 4/23/15, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> Sorry, could you just clarify for me: were the watches you tried the
>> sport
>> models or the stainless steel models?  I've read lots of accounts of
>> Apple
>> stores carrying different sizes of watch, but not of the same type, and
>> I'd
>> be interested to know why people are opting for the steel model over the
>> Sport if they are doing so, or whether their impression is true for both
>> types.  The steel model seems to be reported as very chunky, and I'm
>> wondering if the Sport improves on that.
>>
>> The watches arriving tomorrow are both the Sport because I'm in trial
>> mode
>> with these things.  The wisdom of going to the Store to actually see them
>> before ordering them is nothing to getting them tomorrow, and I can see
>> all
>> the others whenever my store next carries them. :)
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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Scott Davert]

Hello Myrna and Kawal.
No, the watch itself does not have braille support, but you can
control most, if not all, aspects of the watch through the iPhone app.
Myrna: I think the store on west 14th is my favorite in Manhatton,
followed by the one up by Central park. I was a bit underwhelmed at
the store in Grand Central.

Scott

On 4/23/15, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> Sorry, could you just clarify for me: were the watches you tried the sport
> models or the stainless steel models?  I’ve read lots of accounts of Apple
> stores carrying different sizes of watch, but not of the same type, and I’d
> be interested to know why people are opting for the steel model over the
> Sport if they are doing so, or whether their impression is true for both
> types.  The steel model seems to be reported as very chunky, and I’m
> wondering if the Sport improves on that.
>
> The watches arriving tomorrow are both the Sport because I’m in trial mode
> with these things.  The wisdom of going to the Store to actually see them
> before ordering them is nothing to getting them tomorrow, and I can see all
> the others whenever my store next carries them. :)
>
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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Sorry, could you just clarify for me: were the watches you tried the sport 
models or the stainless steel models?  I’ve read lots of accounts of Apple 
stores carrying different sizes of watch, but not of the same type, and I’d be 
interested to know why people are opting for the steel model over the Sport if 
they are doing so, or whether their impression is true for both types.  The 
steel model seems to be reported as very chunky, and I’m wondering if the Sport 
improves on that.

The watches arriving tomorrow are both the Sport because I’m in trial mode with 
these things.  The wisdom of going to the Store to actually see them before 
ordering them is nothing to getting them tomorrow, and I can see all the others 
whenever my store next carries them. :)

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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Eileen]

HI   
HiHi Myrna,

Ohto to to You were so lucky to have a chance to try the VO feature. I went to 
the store a day after they were released. I didn't purchase yet, but was very 
tempted as a early birthday gift to myself. It's a big one this year, so I 
thought I would do it in grand style. I decided to wait for some feedback from 
other blind folks on how well accessibility works before placing an order. 
Well!!! Now I will need to wait until the summertime when they'll be more 
available. Anyways, I hope you make the right choice for yourself, "To Buy Or 
Not To Buy..." 

Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 23, 2015, at 2:20 PM, Myrna Votta  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Today, I visited the Apple Store on West 14th Street, in New York City.  I 
> really don’t know why I was so lucky, perhaps just picked the right store, 
> because when I told the sales person there that I knew that I wasn’t going to 
> be able to experience  Voiceover, she said that she was almost positive that 
> the store did have one accessible Apple watch so that blind visitors could 
> try Voiceover.  She had her colleague look for it and it was found.  
> Therefore, I had the opportunity to play with Voiceover and interact with the 
> screen.  I also had siri open the settings app for me.  The watch was the 
> 42mm sports model and I would say that the speaker sound level was like most 
> of the talking watches all of us have used.   The atmosphere in the store, as 
> in most of the Apple stores, of course, was noisy, so it was a bit difficult 
> to hear.  However, in a less noisy environment, I think that it will be fine. 
>  I did have the chance to try the 38mm model, which I liked even better than 
> the larger watch, which really isn’t that much larger.  The sales woman said 
> that she liked the look of it on my wrist better than the 42mm watch.  I did 
> try the band that comes with the sports model, the melanise band and the 
> leather loop band.  Although the sales woman and my friend really liked the 
> leather loop, I didn’t  I did, however, like the melanise band because it 
> felt like a mesh bracelet and it was very light.  I loved the design of the 
> watch and the feel of the glass.  Now, For me  “to order or not to order, 
> that is the question."
> 
> 
> Myrna
> 
>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 5:24 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> I'd like to know if a Braille display will work with the watch.  I'm going 
>> to try it when I get mine.
>> 
>> I thought the 42 Millimetre was heavy because of the stainless steal and the 
>> Safire Diamond.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> On 22 Apr 2015, at 14:56, Mika Pyyhkala  wrote:
>> 
>> I am still struggling with whether to get the 38mm or 42mm sport
>> model; so I have both sizes on order.  But I want to cancel one.
>> 
>> I tried both sizes on and didn't notice a huge difference in feel.
>> Some have said the 42mm will have slightly better battery life.
>> 
>> I think it depends on what kinds of gestures and input one will need
>> to do on the watch.  If having to actually type on the watch, it may
>> be better to have the 42mm.
>> 
>> Anyone have ideas on pros and cons of the 38mm or 42mm size?
>> 
>> I think the watch will be helpful for notifications.  It will be
>> easier to access the notifications on your rist rather than having to
>> take the iPhone out of your pocket, etc.
>> 
>> I also think pass book and boarding passes and hotel keys eventually
>> will be a cool function of the watch so again as not to have to take
>> your iPhone out.
>> 
>> It will also be handy to keep track of the ETA of an Uber or Lyft
>> without again having to take my iPhone out of my pocket or constantly
>> be holding on to my iPhone in order to check on the ETA information.
>> 
>> I've never been extraordinarily concerned about VoiceOver talking in
>> the background if its kept at a low volume.  I use ear buds on the
>> plane, but otherwise usually just use the built in speaker to the
>> iPhone.  Perhaps there will be a way to mute the watch say if you are
>> in an important meeting.
>> 
>> One commentary I read really made sense.  It said that the Apple watch
>> is good for someone who is constantly on their iPhone, and constantly
>> handling notifications.  It will make it easier to process these
>> notifications.  I often find that when I take my iPhone out, I have 10
>> or 20 pending notifications.
>> 
>> The round knob on the watch is the digital crown.  You can use it to
>> scroll through different functions and applications.
>> 
>> The square button will bring up contacts and also bring up Apple pay.
>> 
>> Both the digital crown (knob) and square button are on the same side
>> of the watch.
>> 
>> I also saw the abbreviated demo where you couldn't really do much in
>> the store.  David Woodbridge also posted a positive review using
>> VoiceOver.
>> 
>> I also look forward to the heart beat monitoring, and like that it
>> will be in one device rather than also say having to get a Fitbit.
>> 
>> Best,
>> M

Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Myrna and others. I saw a very handy tip posted to Twitter indicating that 
you can take any of the Apple Watch models they have in store, and tell Siri to 
turn VoiceOver on.
Cool that you got to play with it fully VO-enabled.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

> On 24/04/2015, at 9:20 am, Myrna Votta  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Today, I visited the Apple Store on West 14th Street, in New York City.  I 
> really don’t know why I was so lucky, perhaps just picked the right store, 
> because when I told the sales person there that I knew that I wasn’t going to 
> be able to experience  Voiceover, she said that she was almost positive that 
> the store did have one accessible Apple watch so that blind visitors could 
> try Voiceover.  She had her colleague look for it and it was found.  
> Therefore, I had the opportunity to play with Voiceover and interact with the 
> screen.  I also had siri open the settings app for me.  The watch was the 
> 42mm sports model and I would say that the speaker sound level was like most 
> of the talking watches all of us have used.   The atmosphere in the store, as 
> in most of the Apple stores, of course, was noisy, so it was a bit difficult 
> to hear.  However, in a less noisy environment, I think that it will be fine. 
>  I did have the chance to try the 38mm model, which I liked even better than 
> the larger watch, which really isn’t that much larger.  The sales woman said 
> that she liked the look of it on my wrist better than the 42mm watch.  I did 
> try the band that comes with the sports model, the melanise band and the 
> leather loop band.  Although the sales woman and my friend really liked the 
> leather loop, I didn’t  I did, however, like the melanise band because it 
> felt like a mesh bracelet and it was very light.  I loved the design of the 
> watch and the feel of the glass.  Now, For me  “to order or not to order, 
> that is the question."
> 
> 
> Myrna
> 
>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 5:24 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> I'd like to know if a Braille display will work with the watch.  I'm going 
>> to try it when I get mine.
>> 
>> I thought the 42 Millimetre was heavy because of the stainless steal and the 
>> Safire Diamond.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> On 22 Apr 2015, at 14:56, Mika Pyyhkala  wrote:
>> 
>> I am still struggling with whether to get the 38mm or 42mm sport
>> model; so I have both sizes on order.  But I want to cancel one.
>> 
>> I tried both sizes on and didn't notice a huge difference in feel.
>> Some have said the 42mm will have slightly better battery life.
>> 
>> I think it depends on what kinds of gestures and input one will need
>> to do on the watch.  If having to actually type on the watch, it may
>> be better to have the 42mm.
>> 
>> Anyone have ideas on pros and cons of the 38mm or 42mm size?
>> 
>> I think the watch will be helpful for notifications.  It will be
>> easier to access the notifications on your rist rather than having to
>> take the iPhone out of your pocket, etc.
>> 
>> I also think pass book and boarding passes and hotel keys eventually
>> will be a cool function of the watch so again as not to have to take
>> your iPhone out.
>> 
>> It will also be handy to keep track of the ETA of an Uber or Lyft
>> without again having to take my iPhone out of my pocket or constantly
>> be holding on to my iPhone in order to check on the ETA information.
>> 
>> I've never been extraordinarily concerned about VoiceOver talking in
>> the background if its kept at a low volume.  I use ear buds on the
>> plane, but otherwise usually just use the built in speaker to the
>> iPhone.  Perhaps there will be a way to mute the watch say if you are
>> in an important meeting.
>> 
>> One commentary I read really made sense.  It said that the Apple watch
>> is good for someone who is constantly on their iPhone, and constantly
>> handling notifications.  It will make it easier to process these
>> notifications.  I often find that when I take my iPhone out, I have 10
>> or 20 pending notifications.
>> 
>> The round knob on the watch is the digital crown.  You can use it to
>> scroll through different functions and applications.
>> 
>> The square button will bring up contacts and also bring up Apple pay.
>> 
>> Both the digital crown (knob) and square button are on the same side
>> of the watch.
>> 
>> I also saw the abbreviated demo where you couldn't really do much in
>> the store.  David Woodbridge also posted a positive review using
>> VoiceOver.
>> 
>> I also look forward to the heart beat monitoring, and like that it
>> will be in one device rather than also say having to get a Fitbit.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Mika
>> @pyyhkala
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 4/19/15, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
>>> Cheree Heppe here:
>>> 
>>> With all that has been posted and written, I finally stopped by our
>>> city's Apple store to check out the two sizes of Apple watches.
>>> 
>>> The Apple store has installed a table f

Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Myrna Votta]

Hi,

Today, I visited the Apple Store on West 14th Street, in New York City.  I 
really don’t know why I was so lucky, perhaps just picked the right store, 
because when I told the sales person there that I knew that I wasn’t going to 
be able to experience  Voiceover, she said that she was almost positive that 
the store did have one accessible Apple watch so that blind visitors could try 
Voiceover.  She had her colleague look for it and it was found.  Therefore, I 
had the opportunity to play with Voiceover and interact with the screen.  I 
also had siri open the settings app for me.  The watch was the 42mm sports 
model and I would say that the speaker sound level was like most of the talking 
watches all of us have used.   The atmosphere in the store, as in most of the 
Apple stores, of course, was noisy, so it was a bit difficult to hear.  
However, in a less noisy environment, I think that it will be fine.  I did have 
the chance to try the 38mm model, which I liked even better than the larger 
watch, which really isn’t that much larger.  The sales woman said that she 
liked the look of it on my wrist better than the 42mm watch.  I did try the 
band that comes with the sports model, the melanise band and the leather loop 
band.  Although the sales woman and my friend really liked the leather loop, I 
didn’t  I did, however, like the melanise band because it felt like a mesh 
bracelet and it was very light.  I loved the design of the watch and the feel 
of the glass.  Now, For me  “to order or not to order, that is the question."
  

Myrna

> On Apr 22, 2015, at 5:24 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> I'd like to know if a Braille display will work with the watch.  I'm going to 
> try it when I get mine.
> 
> I thought the 42 Millimetre was heavy because of the stainless steal and the 
> Safire Diamond.
> 
> Kawal.
> On 22 Apr 2015, at 14:56, Mika Pyyhkala  wrote:
> 
> I am still struggling with whether to get the 38mm or 42mm sport
> model; so I have both sizes on order.  But I want to cancel one.
> 
> I tried both sizes on and didn't notice a huge difference in feel.
> Some have said the 42mm will have slightly better battery life.
> 
> I think it depends on what kinds of gestures and input one will need
> to do on the watch.  If having to actually type on the watch, it may
> be better to have the 42mm.
> 
> Anyone have ideas on pros and cons of the 38mm or 42mm size?
> 
> I think the watch will be helpful for notifications.  It will be
> easier to access the notifications on your rist rather than having to
> take the iPhone out of your pocket, etc.
> 
> I also think pass book and boarding passes and hotel keys eventually
> will be a cool function of the watch so again as not to have to take
> your iPhone out.
> 
> It will also be handy to keep track of the ETA of an Uber or Lyft
> without again having to take my iPhone out of my pocket or constantly
> be holding on to my iPhone in order to check on the ETA information.
> 
> I've never been extraordinarily concerned about VoiceOver talking in
> the background if its kept at a low volume.  I use ear buds on the
> plane, but otherwise usually just use the built in speaker to the
> iPhone.  Perhaps there will be a way to mute the watch say if you are
> in an important meeting.
> 
> One commentary I read really made sense.  It said that the Apple watch
> is good for someone who is constantly on their iPhone, and constantly
> handling notifications.  It will make it easier to process these
> notifications.  I often find that when I take my iPhone out, I have 10
> or 20 pending notifications.
> 
> The round knob on the watch is the digital crown.  You can use it to
> scroll through different functions and applications.
> 
> The square button will bring up contacts and also bring up Apple pay.
> 
> Both the digital crown (knob) and square button are on the same side
> of the watch.
> 
> I also saw the abbreviated demo where you couldn't really do much in
> the store.  David Woodbridge also posted a positive review using
> VoiceOver.
> 
> I also look forward to the heart beat monitoring, and like that it
> will be in one device rather than also say having to get a Fitbit.
> 
> Best,
> Mika
> @pyyhkala
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 4/19/15, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
>> Cheree Heppe here:
>> 
>> With all that has been posted and written, I finally stopped by our
>> city's Apple store to check out the two sizes of Apple watches.
>> 
>> The Apple store has installed a table for displaying the various band
>> types and the two watch sizes.  There are demo watches kept in a drawer
>> built into the table.  There is a trick way of opening the drawer.
>> 
>> Some people wrote about various elements of the watch and bands.
>> 
>> Leather bands.  The bands I saw looked exactly like high end leather
>> bands.  I have owned high end leather goods.  The sides and surfaces are
>> finished in much the same ways.  I have done leather and harness
>> crafting and know the rudiments, so, I don'

Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I'd like to know if a Braille display will work with the watch.  I'm going to 
try it when I get mine.

I thought the 42 Millimetre was heavy because of the stainless steal and the 
Safire Diamond.

Kawal.
On 22 Apr 2015, at 14:56, Mika Pyyhkala  wrote:

I am still struggling with whether to get the 38mm or 42mm sport
model; so I have both sizes on order.  But I want to cancel one.

I tried both sizes on and didn't notice a huge difference in feel.
Some have said the 42mm will have slightly better battery life.

I think it depends on what kinds of gestures and input one will need
to do on the watch.  If having to actually type on the watch, it may
be better to have the 42mm.

Anyone have ideas on pros and cons of the 38mm or 42mm size?

I think the watch will be helpful for notifications.  It will be
easier to access the notifications on your rist rather than having to
take the iPhone out of your pocket, etc.

I also think pass book and boarding passes and hotel keys eventually
will be a cool function of the watch so again as not to have to take
your iPhone out.

It will also be handy to keep track of the ETA of an Uber or Lyft
without again having to take my iPhone out of my pocket or constantly
be holding on to my iPhone in order to check on the ETA information.

I've never been extraordinarily concerned about VoiceOver talking in
the background if its kept at a low volume.  I use ear buds on the
plane, but otherwise usually just use the built in speaker to the
iPhone.  Perhaps there will be a way to mute the watch say if you are
in an important meeting.

One commentary I read really made sense.  It said that the Apple watch
is good for someone who is constantly on their iPhone, and constantly
handling notifications.  It will make it easier to process these
notifications.  I often find that when I take my iPhone out, I have 10
or 20 pending notifications.

The round knob on the watch is the digital crown.  You can use it to
scroll through different functions and applications.

The square button will bring up contacts and also bring up Apple pay.

Both the digital crown (knob) and square button are on the same side
of the watch.

I also saw the abbreviated demo where you couldn't really do much in
the store.  David Woodbridge also posted a positive review using
VoiceOver.

I also look forward to the heart beat monitoring, and like that it
will be in one device rather than also say having to get a Fitbit.

Best,
Mika
@pyyhkala




On 4/19/15, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
> Cheree Heppe here:
> 
> With all that has been posted and written, I finally stopped by our
> city's Apple store to check out the two sizes of Apple watches.
> 
> The Apple store has installed a table for displaying the various band
> types and the two watch sizes.  There are demo watches kept in a drawer
> built into the table.  There is a trick way of opening the drawer.
> 
> Some people wrote about various elements of the watch and bands.
> 
> Leather bands.  The bands I saw looked exactly like high end leather
> bands.  I have owned high end leather goods.  The sides and surfaces are
> finished in much the same ways.  I have done leather and harness
> crafting and know the rudiments, so, I don't feel that the leather bands
> feel like composite materials or slurry made to seem like leather.
> 
> One type of metal band looks a lot like those expandable watch bands.  I
> personally would choose a different band style because I never liked
> that type of band, but the workmanship is solid and good, as far as I
> could tell by handling the demo items.
> 
> The sport band is very sport ready.  It feels very smooth, sort of a
> cross between rubber and metal.  A wearer could sweat up a storm and the
> band would remain impervious.  Sorry, can't recall its color
> 
> There is a mesh type metal band that affixes via a magnetic closure.
> This closure seemed to hold fast, although I did not attempt to whirl my
> wrist around my head or anything exciting like that. This band is
> silver in color.  I found that the back of the smaller watch fit against
> my skin well without noticeable gaps between me and it.  I am not
> over-nourished and feel that this band would be my first choice for an
> Apple provided band.
> 
> I remember tooled leather bands made in the hippie mode that were broad,
> even broader than the larger Apple watch.  The Apple watches would look
> great on those.  This type of watch in a slightly different
> configuration would work really well as a pocket or necklace watch.
> Don't sneer.  I have two mechanical, etched metal necklace Braille
> watches about the same size.
> 
> I did not demo the watch, as the store was noisy with all the
> customers.  Our city;s Apple store is always busy and even iphones are
> hard enough to hear that earphones should be used, at least by me.
> 
> The watch itself is sort of squared off around its edges and thicker
> than a sighted watch, but would not be bad for a Braille watch. There
> are two butt

Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Mika Pyyhkala]

I am still struggling with whether to get the 38mm or 42mm sport
model; so I have both sizes on order.  But I want to cancel one.

I tried both sizes on and didn't notice a huge difference in feel.
Some have said the 42mm will have slightly better battery life.

I think it depends on what kinds of gestures and input one will need
to do on the watch.  If having to actually type on the watch, it may
be better to have the 42mm.

Anyone have ideas on pros and cons of the 38mm or 42mm size?

I think the watch will be helpful for notifications.  It will be
easier to access the notifications on your rist rather than having to
take the iPhone out of your pocket, etc.

I also think pass book and boarding passes and hotel keys eventually
will be a cool function of the watch so again as not to have to take
your iPhone out.

It will also be handy to keep track of the ETA of an Uber or Lyft
without again having to take my iPhone out of my pocket or constantly
be holding on to my iPhone in order to check on the ETA information.

I've never been extraordinarily concerned about VoiceOver talking in
the background if its kept at a low volume.  I use ear buds on the
plane, but otherwise usually just use the built in speaker to the
iPhone.  Perhaps there will be a way to mute the watch say if you are
in an important meeting.

One commentary I read really made sense.  It said that the Apple watch
is good for someone who is constantly on their iPhone, and constantly
handling notifications.  It will make it easier to process these
notifications.  I often find that when I take my iPhone out, I have 10
or 20 pending notifications.

The round knob on the watch is the digital crown.  You can use it to
scroll through different functions and applications.

The square button will bring up contacts and also bring up Apple pay.

Both the digital crown (knob) and square button are on the same side
of the watch.

I also saw the abbreviated demo where you couldn't really do much in
the store.  David Woodbridge also posted a positive review using
VoiceOver.

I also look forward to the heart beat monitoring, and like that it
will be in one device rather than also say having to get a Fitbit.

Best,
Mika
@pyyhkala




On 4/19/15, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
> Cheree Heppe here:
>
> With all that has been posted and written, I finally stopped by our
> city's Apple store to check out the two sizes of Apple watches.
>
> The Apple store has installed a table for displaying the various band
> types and the two watch sizes.  There are demo watches kept in a drawer
> built into the table.  There is a trick way of opening the drawer.
>
> Some people wrote about various elements of the watch and bands.
>
> Leather bands.  The bands I saw looked exactly like high end leather
> bands.  I have owned high end leather goods.  The sides and surfaces are
> finished in much the same ways.  I have done leather and harness
> crafting and know the rudiments, so, I don't feel that the leather bands
> feel like composite materials or slurry made to seem like leather.
>
> One type of metal band looks a lot like those expandable watch bands.  I
> personally would choose a different band style because I never liked
> that type of band, but the workmanship is solid and good, as far as I
> could tell by handling the demo items.
>
> The sport band is very sport ready.  It feels very smooth, sort of a
> cross between rubber and metal.  A wearer could sweat up a storm and the
> band would remain impervious.  Sorry, can't recall its color
>
> There is a mesh type metal band that affixes via a magnetic closure.
> This closure seemed to hold fast, although I did not attempt to whirl my
> wrist around my head or anything exciting like that.  This band is
> silver in color.  I found that the back of the smaller watch fit against
> my skin well without noticeable gaps between me and it.  I am not
> over-nourished and feel that this band would be my first choice for an
> Apple provided band.
>
> I remember tooled leather bands made in the hippie mode that were broad,
> even broader than the larger Apple watch.  The Apple watches would look
> great on those.  This type of watch in a slightly different
> configuration would work really well as a pocket or necklace watch.
> Don't sneer.  I have two mechanical, etched metal necklace Braille
> watches about the same size.
>
> I did not demo the watch, as the store was noisy with all the
> customers.  Our city;s Apple store is always busy and even iphones are
> hard enough to hear that earphones should be used, at least by me.
>
> The watch itself is sort of squared off around its edges and thicker
> than a sighted watch, but would not be bad for a Braille watch. There
> are two buttons on one of the sides without the band connectors.  The
> round button is the one that acts as the Home Button.  I forget what the
> rectangular button does.  These buttons are eminently tactile.  There is
> no mistaking there shapes if you have finger sensitivi

Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Cheree Heppe]

Cheree Heppe here:

With all that has been posted and written, I finally stopped by our 
city's Apple store to check out the two sizes of Apple watches.


The Apple store has installed a table for displaying the various band 
types and the two watch sizes.  There are demo watches kept in a drawer 
built into the table.  There is a trick way of opening the drawer.


Some people wrote about various elements of the watch and bands.

Leather bands.  The bands I saw looked exactly like high end leather 
bands.  I have owned high end leather goods.  The sides and surfaces are 
finished in much the same ways.  I have done leather and harness 
crafting and know the rudiments, so, I don't feel that the leather bands 
feel like composite materials or slurry made to seem like leather.


One type of metal band looks a lot like those expandable watch bands.  I 
personally would choose a different band style because I never liked 
that type of band, but the workmanship is solid and good, as far as I 
could tell by handling the demo items.


The sport band is very sport ready.  It feels very smooth, sort of a 
cross between rubber and metal.  A wearer could sweat up a storm and the 
band would remain impervious.  Sorry, can't recall its color


There is a mesh type metal band that affixes via a magnetic closure.  
This closure seemed to hold fast, although I did not attempt to whirl my 
wrist around my head or anything exciting like that.  This band is 
silver in color.  I found that the back of the smaller watch fit against 
my skin well without noticeable gaps between me and it.  I am not 
over-nourished and feel that this band would be my first choice for an 
Apple provided band.


I remember tooled leather bands made in the hippie mode that were broad, 
even broader than the larger Apple watch.  The Apple watches would look 
great on those.  This type of watch in a slightly different 
configuration would work really well as a pocket or necklace watch. 
Don't sneer.  I have two mechanical, etched metal necklace Braille 
watches about the same size.


I did not demo the watch, as the store was noisy with all the 
customers.  Our city;s Apple store is always busy and even iphones are 
hard enough to hear that earphones should be used, at least by me.


The watch itself is sort of squared off around its edges and thicker 
than a sighted watch, but would not be bad for a Braille watch. There 
are two buttons on one of the sides without the band connectors.  The 
round button is the one that acts as the Home Button.  I forget what the 
rectangular button does.  These buttons are eminently tactile.  There is 
no mistaking there shapes if you have finger sensitivity.


The price did set me back a bit.  By the time I save for the watch, the 
next generation will be ready for roll-out.  I wonder what a creative 
jeweler could do with a band for that kind of watch; or what could be 
made for one of the tiny Apple devices, like a Nano? Interesting 
possibilities.



Regards,
Cheree Heppe




On 18-Apr-15 07:39 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote:

You can't actually reply to email on the Apple Watch, only read it.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

On 19/04/2015, at 10:35 am, Donna Goodin > wrote:


It does seem like using the watch to do email would be incredibly 
tedious.  I still seem myself doing that from my phone, too.  I would 
only advise getting the watch if you want to do the health tracking.

Cheers,
Donna
On Apr 18, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Sadam Ahmed > wrote:


  Interesting. After ordering mine on the first day I've 
subsequently hit the cancel button.


I came to the conclusion that my iPhone can already do most of the 
things I'd use the Watch for anyway.


Also me being a productivity nut I can't see myself powering through 
my email on said Watch  like I can on the phone.


Maybe I'll get the second generation but at this point it appears to 
be not worth it.


Most first gen Apple products come with a quirk.

Kind regards,

Sadam Mohammed Ahmed

B.A. Business Information Systems

RMIT University

On 4/19/2015 7:32 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
It is a good thing. My order is due to ship around july and I am 
going for an advanced mobility course with some other uni mates so 
I will have the perfect occasion to really test it out against my 
initial opinion. If it really doesn’t fit my needs, I can always 
send it back via the local apple store. it really bogs down to 
battery life for me. But I’m sure next generations will get much 
better, especially with the upcoming leaps in battery life.


All the best,






On 19/04/2015, at 6:32 am, gs > wrote:


I guess this is a very wise way to look at things with regard to 
the 14 days. I just can't see myself getting too much use from it 
as others have said. I keep my phone in my shirt pocket within 
easy reach and earpods around my 

Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Donna Goodin]

Will do, Kevin.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Apr 20, 2015, at 3:46 AM, Kevin Cussick 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,   Please keep us informed on how the watch performs watching with 
> interest.
> 
> On 18/04/2015 21:22, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided to take a 
>> look at the Apple watch.  I was very interested in it, but not sure what I 
>> would think, based on the mixed reviews I've seen.  It was hard to tell much 
>> because they weren't able to demo voiceover, but I liked the form factor, 
>> and thought the stuff I was hearing from the video demo was pretty cool.  
>> Since I have fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, I decided to go 
>> ahead and pre-order one.  I just got the aluminum sports model, because I 
>> figure it's highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when newer generations 
>> are released, so didn't see the sense in shelling out the extra $200.  
>> Looking forward to its arrival and getting to actually put it through its 
>> paces.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Kevin Cussick]

Hi Donna,   Please keep us informed on how the watch performs watching 
with interest.


On 18/04/2015 21:22, Donna Goodin wrote:

I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided to take a 
look at the Apple watch.  I was very interested in it, but not sure what I 
would think, based on the mixed reviews I've seen.  It was hard to tell much 
because they weren't able to demo voiceover, but I liked the form factor, and 
thought the stuff I was hearing from the video demo was pretty cool.  Since I 
have fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, I decided to go ahead and 
pre-order one.  I just got the aluminum sports model, because I figure it's 
highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when newer generations are released, so 
didn't see the sense in shelling out the extra $200.  Looking forward to its 
arrival and getting to actually put it through its paces.
Cheers,
Donna



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RE: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Juan Hernandez]

Also, all, every one of us that gets one, will be helping the future users.  
Please, please provide feedback to apple.  The Apple Watch could be a great 
tool once the world figures out what things to truly do with it.

Best,

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On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
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Subject: Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

Actually, I felt pretty much the same way until I got a FitBit Flex a couple of 
months ago, and started tracking sleep, steps, calories, etc.  I like the Flex 
a lot, but there are some things the Apple watch does that the Flex doesn't, 
and they're things I'd like to have.  I see myself mostly using the watch for 
the health applications, and anything I can do with Siri.  As far as messaging 
and all that, it seems like it'll be much easier just to do that from the phone.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Apr 18, 2015, at 3:32 PM, gs  wrote:
> 
> I guess this is a very wise way to look at things with regard to the 14 days. 
> I just can't see myself getting too much use from it as others have said. I 
> keep my phone in my shirt pocket within easy reach and earpods around my 
> neck. I don't like the way the blue tooth headsets I have tried work with VO 
> and just don't see how having something on my wrist is really going to make 
> that much difference. Maybe I'm off track on this. For visual users I do 
> understand it though.
> 
> 
> On Apr 18, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided to take a 
> look at the Apple watch.  I was very interested in it, but not sure what I 
> would think, based on the mixed reviews I've seen.  It was hard to tell much 
> because they weren't able to demo voiceover, but I liked the form factor, and 
> thought the stuff I was hearing from the video demo was pretty cool.  Since I 
> have fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, I decided to go ahead and 
> pre-order one.  I just got the aluminum sports model, because I figure it's 
> highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when newer generations are released, 
> so didn't see the sense in shelling out the extra $200.  Looking forward to 
> its arrival and getting to actually put it through its paces.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[sadamahmed1992]

Thanks for clearing that up Jonathan. 

That's disappointing as I am a big believer in being as productive as possible. 

I will get one eventually just not in the initial phase. 

Let the early adopters work out the bugs for the rest of us. 

Kind regards, 

Sadam Mohammed Ahmed 

Sent from my iPhone 

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> On 19 Apr 2015, at 12:39 pm, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> You can't actually reply to email on the Apple Watch, only read it.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
> 
>> On 19/04/2015, at 10:35 am, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> It does seem like using the watch to do email would be incredibly tedious.  
>> I still seem myself doing that from my phone, too.  I would only advise 
>> getting the watch if you want to do the health tracking.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Apr 18, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Interesting. After ordering mine on the first day I've subsequently hit 
>>> the cancel button.
>>> 
>>> I came to the conclusion that my iPhone can already do most of the things 
>>> I'd use the Watch for anyway.
>>> 
>>> Also me being a productivity nut I can't see myself powering through my 
>>> email on said Watch  like I can on the phone.
>>> 
>>> Maybe I'll get the second generation but at this point it appears to be not 
>>> worth it.
>>> 
>>> Most first gen Apple products come with a quirk.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Sadam Mohammed Ahmed
>>> 
>>> B.A. Business Information Systems
>>> 
>>> RMIT University
>>> 
 On 4/19/2015 7:32 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
 It is a good thing. My order is due to ship around july and I am going for 
 an advanced mobility course with some other uni mates so I will have the 
 perfect occasion to really test it out against my initial opinion. If it 
 really doesn’t fit my needs, I can always send it back via the local apple 
 store. it really bogs down to battery life for me. But I’m sure next 
 generations will get much better, especially with the upcoming leaps in 
 battery life.
 
 All the best,
 
 
 
 
 
 
> On 19/04/2015, at 6:32 am, gs  wrote:
> 
> I guess this is a very wise way to look at things with regard to the 14 
> days. I just can't see myself getting too much use from it as others have 
> said. I keep my phone in my shirt pocket within easy reach and earpods 
> around my neck. I don't like the way the blue tooth headsets I have tried 
> work with VO and just don't see how having something on my wrist is 
> really going to make that much difference. Maybe I'm off track on this. 
> For visual users I do understand it though.
> 
> 
> On Apr 18, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided to take 
> a look at the Apple watch.  I was very interested in it, but not sure 
> what I would think, based on the mixed reviews I've seen.  It was hard to 
> tell much because they weren't able to demo voiceover, but I liked the 
> form factor, and thought the stuff I was hearing from the video demo was 
> pretty cool.  Since I have fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, 
> I decided to go ahead and pre-order one.  I just got the aluminum sports 
> model, because I figure it's highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when 
> newer generations are released, so didn't see the sense in shelling out 
> the extra $200.  Looking forward to its arrival and getting to actually 
> put it through its paces.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Brent Harding]

I'm not sure whether to buy it either. It looks like one of the only ways to 
try it out though because I'm not anywhere near the two Apple Stores the 
state of Wisconsin has. The funny thing is though that there is a place 
called Apple Store, but they sell fruit instead.


- Original Message - 
From: "Donna Goodin" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!


Oh, and I have fairly small hands.
Cheers,
Donna
On Apr 18, 2015, at 4:49 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 wrote:


Donna,
What size did you get? I don't know what size wrist/hands you have, but 
what did you think of each of the sizes?
I'd love to see one, but no chance of that here in New Zealand for 
goodness knows how long. We don't have actual Apple stores here so we 
don't know which Apple re-sellers will be selling it here.


I'm on the fence about buying one. I don't really like talking watches so 
probably it wouldn't be a good buy for me. I'm still curious though. 
Definitely something I want to feel before I buy it.


Lisette


On 19/04/2015, at 8:22 am, Donna Goodin  wrote:

I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided to take 
a look at the Apple watch.  I was very interested in it, but not sure 
what I would think, based on the mixed reviews I've seen.  It was hard to 
tell much because they weren't able to demo voiceover, but I liked the 
form factor, and thought the stuff I was hearing from the video demo was 
pretty cool.  Since I have fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, 
I decided to go ahead and pre-order one.  I just got the aluminum sports 
model, because I figure it's highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when 
newer generations are released, so didn't see the sense in shelling out 
the extra $200.  Looking forward to its arrival and getting to actually 
put it through its paces.

Cheers,
Donna

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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Jonathan Mosen]

You can't actually reply to email on the Apple Watch, only read it.
Jonathan Mosen
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> On 19/04/2015, at 10:35 am, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> It does seem like using the watch to do email would be incredibly tedious.  I 
> still seem myself doing that from my phone, too.  I would only advise getting 
> the watch if you want to do the health tracking.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Apr 18, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
>> 
>>   Interesting. After ordering mine on the first day I've subsequently hit 
>> the cancel button.
>> 
>> I came to the conclusion that my iPhone can already do most of the things 
>> I'd use the Watch for anyway.
>> 
>> Also me being a productivity nut I can't see myself powering through my 
>> email on said Watch  like I can on the phone.
>> 
>> Maybe I'll get the second generation but at this point it appears to be not 
>> worth it.
>> 
>> Most first gen Apple products come with a quirk.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Sadam Mohammed Ahmed
>> 
>> B.A. Business Information Systems
>> 
>> RMIT University
>> 
>> On 4/19/2015 7:32 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
>>> It is a good thing. My order is due to ship around july and I am going for 
>>> an advanced mobility course with some other uni mates so I will have the 
>>> perfect occasion to really test it out against my initial opinion. If it 
>>> really doesn’t fit my needs, I can always send it back via the local apple 
>>> store. it really bogs down to battery life for me. But I’m sure next 
>>> generations will get much better, especially with the upcoming leaps in 
>>> battery life.
>>> 
>>> All the best,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 19/04/2015, at 6:32 am, gs  wrote:
 
 I guess this is a very wise way to look at things with regard to the 14 
 days. I just can't see myself getting too much use from it as others have 
 said. I keep my phone in my shirt pocket within easy reach and earpods 
 around my neck. I don't like the way the blue tooth headsets I have tried 
 work with VO and just don't see how having something on my wrist is really 
 going to make that much difference. Maybe I'm off track on this. For 
 visual users I do understand it though.
 
 
 On Apr 18, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided to take 
 a look at the Apple watch.  I was very interested in it, but not sure what 
 I would think, based on the mixed reviews I've seen.  It was hard to tell 
 much because they weren't able to demo voiceover, but I liked the form 
 factor, and thought the stuff I was hearing from the video demo was pretty 
 cool.  Since I have fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, I 
 decided to go ahead and pre-order one.  I just got the aluminum sports 
 model, because I figure it's highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when 
 newer generations are released, so didn't see the sense in shelling out 
 the extra $200.  Looking forward to its arrival and getting to actually 
 put it through its paces.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Donna Goodin]

It does seem like using the watch to do email would be incredibly tedious.  I 
still seem myself doing that from my phone, too.  I would only advise getting 
the watch if you want to do the health tracking.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Apr 18, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
>Interesting. After ordering mine on the first day I've subsequently hit 
> the cancel button.
> 
> I came to the conclusion that my iPhone can already do most of the things I'd 
> use the Watch for anyway.
> 
> Also me being a productivity nut I can't see myself powering through my email 
> on said Watch  like I can on the phone.
> 
> Maybe I'll get the second generation but at this point it appears to be not 
> worth it.
> 
> Most first gen Apple products come with a quirk.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Sadam Mohammed Ahmed
> 
> B.A. Business Information Systems
> 
> RMIT University
> 
> On 4/19/2015 7:32 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
>> It is a good thing. My order is due to ship around july and I am going for 
>> an advanced mobility course with some other uni mates so I will have the 
>> perfect occasion to really test it out against my initial opinion. If it 
>> really doesn’t fit my needs, I can always send it back via the local apple 
>> store. it really bogs down to battery life for me. But I’m sure next 
>> generations will get much better, especially with the upcoming leaps in 
>> battery life.
>> 
>> All the best,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 19/04/2015, at 6:32 am, gs  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I guess this is a very wise way to look at things with regard to the 14 
>>> days. I just can't see myself getting too much use from it as others have 
>>> said. I keep my phone in my shirt pocket within easy reach and earpods 
>>> around my neck. I don't like the way the blue tooth headsets I have tried 
>>> work with VO and just don't see how having something on my wrist is really 
>>> going to make that much difference. Maybe I'm off track on this. For visual 
>>> users I do understand it though.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided to take a 
>>> look at the Apple watch.  I was very interested in it, but not sure what I 
>>> would think, based on the mixed reviews I've seen.  It was hard to tell 
>>> much because they weren't able to demo voiceover, but I liked the form 
>>> factor, and thought the stuff I was hearing from the video demo was pretty 
>>> cool.  Since I have fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, I 
>>> decided to go ahead and pre-order one.  I just got the aluminum sports 
>>> model, because I figure it's highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when 
>>> newer generations are released, so didn't see the sense in shelling out the 
>>> extra $200.  Looking forward to its arrival and getting to actually put it 
>>> through its paces.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Donna Goodin]

Wow, I would hate not having actual Apple stores!  I am sure i wouldn't have 
bought the watch without being able to see it first.

I got the smaller size, 38mm I think.  the larger one wasn't over the top huge, 
but it was bigger than I would have wanted.  And since I don't need to see the 
screen, I figured I might as well stick with the smaller one.  As far as 
describing the size, it's bigger than my current braille watch, but not by too 
horribly much.  I actually got to put one on my wrist, and it felt very 
comfortable to wear.  However, the stainless steel watch is noticeably heavier, 
the lighter weight was another thing I liked about the sports model.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Apr 18, 2015, at 4:49 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
> wrote:
> 
> Donna,
> What size did you get? I don't know what size wrist/hands you have, but what 
> did you think of each of the sizes?
> I'd love to see one, but no chance of that here in New Zealand for goodness 
> knows how long. We don't have actual Apple stores here so we don't know which 
> Apple re-sellers will be selling it here.
> 
> I'm on the fence about buying one. I don't really like talking watches so 
> probably it wouldn't be a good buy for me. I'm still curious though. 
> Definitely something I want to feel before I buy it.
> 
> Lisette
> 
>> On 19/04/2015, at 8:22 am, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided to take a 
>> look at the Apple watch.  I was very interested in it, but not sure what I 
>> would think, based on the mixed reviews I've seen.  It was hard to tell much 
>> because they weren't able to demo voiceover, but I liked the form factor, 
>> and thought the stuff I was hearing from the video demo was pretty cool.  
>> Since I have fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, I decided to go 
>> ahead and pre-order one.  I just got the aluminum sports model, because I 
>> figure it's highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when newer generations 
>> are released, so didn't see the sense in shelling out the extra $200.  
>> Looking forward to its arrival and getting to actually put it through its 
>> paces.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Donna Goodin]

Oh, and I have fairly small hands.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Apr 18, 2015, at 4:49 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
> wrote:
> 
> Donna,
> What size did you get? I don't know what size wrist/hands you have, but what 
> did you think of each of the sizes?
> I'd love to see one, but no chance of that here in New Zealand for goodness 
> knows how long. We don't have actual Apple stores here so we don't know which 
> Apple re-sellers will be selling it here.
> 
> I'm on the fence about buying one. I don't really like talking watches so 
> probably it wouldn't be a good buy for me. I'm still curious though. 
> Definitely something I want to feel before I buy it.
> 
> Lisette
> 
>> On 19/04/2015, at 8:22 am, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided to take a 
>> look at the Apple watch.  I was very interested in it, but not sure what I 
>> would think, based on the mixed reviews I've seen.  It was hard to tell much 
>> because they weren't able to demo voiceover, but I liked the form factor, 
>> and thought the stuff I was hearing from the video demo was pretty cool.  
>> Since I have fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, I decided to go 
>> ahead and pre-order one.  I just got the aluminum sports model, because I 
>> figure it's highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when newer generations 
>> are released, so didn't see the sense in shelling out the extra $200.  
>> Looking forward to its arrival and getting to actually put it through its 
>> paces.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Donna Goodin]

Actually, I felt pretty much the same way until I got a FitBit Flex a couple of 
months ago, and started tracking sleep, steps, calories, etc.  I like the Flex 
a lot, but there are some things the Apple watch does that the Flex doesn't, 
and they're things I'd like to have.  I see myself mostly using the watch for 
the health applications, and anything I can do with Siri.  As far as messaging 
and all that, it seems like it'll be much easier just to do that from the phone.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Apr 18, 2015, at 3:32 PM, gs  wrote:
> 
> I guess this is a very wise way to look at things with regard to the 14 days. 
> I just can't see myself getting too much use from it as others have said. I 
> keep my phone in my shirt pocket within easy reach and earpods around my 
> neck. I don't like the way the blue tooth headsets I have tried work with VO 
> and just don't see how having something on my wrist is really going to make 
> that much difference. Maybe I'm off track on this. For visual users I do 
> understand it though.
> 
> 
> On Apr 18, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided to take a 
> look at the Apple watch.  I was very interested in it, but not sure what I 
> would think, based on the mixed reviews I've seen.  It was hard to tell much 
> because they weren't able to demo voiceover, but I liked the form factor, and 
> thought the stuff I was hearing from the video demo was pretty cool.  Since I 
> have fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, I decided to go ahead and 
> pre-order one.  I just got the aluminum sports model, because I figure it's 
> highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when newer generations are released, 
> so didn't see the sense in shelling out the extra $200.  Looking forward to 
> its arrival and getting to actually put it through its paces.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Donna Goodin]

LOL.  No, it's not quite that bad, they said June, though they did not specify 
when in June.
> On Apr 18, 2015, at 3:29 PM, george b  wrote:
> 
> Cool, when will you get yours late july...LOL
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!
> 
> I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided to take a 
> look at the Apple watch.  I was very interested in it, but not sure what I 
> would think, based on the mixed reviews I've seen.  It was hard to tell much 
> because they weren't able to demo voiceover, but I liked the form factor, and 
> thought the stuff I was hearing from the video demo was pretty cool.  Since I 
> have fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, I decided to go ahead and 
> pre-order one.  I just got the aluminum sports model, because I figure it's 
> highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when newer generations are released, 
> so didn't see the sense in shelling out the extra $200.  Looking forward to 
> its arrival and getting to actually put it through its paces.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Sadam Ahmed]

Interesting. After ordering mine on the first day I've subsequently 
hit the cancel button.


I came to the conclusion that my iPhone can already do most of the 
things I'd use the Watch for anyway.


Also me being a productivity nut I can't see myself powering through my 
email on said Watch  like I can on the phone.


Maybe I'll get the second generation but at this point it appears to be 
not worth it.


Most first gen Apple products come with a quirk.

Kind regards,

Sadam Mohammed Ahmed

B.A. Business Information Systems

RMIT University

On 4/19/2015 7:32 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote:

It is a good thing. My order is due to ship around july and I am going for an 
advanced mobility course with some other uni mates so I will have the perfect 
occasion to really test it out against my initial opinion. If it really doesn’t 
fit my needs, I can always send it back via the local apple store. it really 
bogs down to battery life for me. But I’m sure next generations will get much 
better, especially with the upcoming leaps in battery life.

All the best,







On 19/04/2015, at 6:32 am, gs  wrote:

I guess this is a very wise way to look at things with regard to the 14 days. I 
just can't see myself getting too much use from it as others have said. I keep 
my phone in my shirt pocket within easy reach and earpods around my neck. I 
don't like the way the blue tooth headsets I have tried work with VO and just 
don't see how having something on my wrist is really going to make that much 
difference. Maybe I'm off track on this. For visual users I do understand it 
though.


On Apr 18, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided to take a 
look at the Apple watch.  I was very interested in it, but not sure what I 
would think, based on the mixed reviews I've seen.  It was hard to tell much 
because they weren't able to demo voiceover, but I liked the form factor, and 
thought the stuff I was hearing from the video demo was pretty cool.  Since I 
have fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, I decided to go ahead and 
pre-order one.  I just got the aluminum sports model, because I figure it's 
highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when newer generations are released, so 
didn't see the sense in shelling out the extra $200.  Looking forward to its 
arrival and getting to actually put it through its paces.
Cheers,
Donna

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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Lisette Wesseling]

Donna,
What size did you get? I don't know what size wrist/hands you have, but what 
did you think of each of the sizes?
I'd love to see one, but no chance of that here in New Zealand for goodness 
knows how long. We don't have actual Apple stores here so we don't know which 
Apple re-sellers will be selling it here.

I'm on the fence about buying one. I don't really like talking watches so 
probably it wouldn't be a good buy for me. I'm still curious though. Definitely 
something I want to feel before I buy it.

Lisette
 
> On 19/04/2015, at 8:22 am, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided to take a 
> look at the Apple watch.  I was very interested in it, but not sure what I 
> would think, based on the mixed reviews I've seen.  It was hard to tell much 
> because they weren't able to demo voiceover, but I liked the form factor, and 
> thought the stuff I was hearing from the video demo was pretty cool.  Since I 
> have fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, I decided to go ahead and 
> pre-order one.  I just got the aluminum sports model, because I figure it's 
> highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when newer generations are released, 
> so didn't see the sense in shelling out the extra $200.  Looking forward to 
> its arrival and getting to actually put it through its paces.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Yuma Decaux]

It is a good thing. My order is due to ship around july and I am going for an 
advanced mobility course with some other uni mates so I will have the perfect 
occasion to really test it out against my initial opinion. If it really doesn’t 
fit my needs, I can always send it back via the local apple store. it really 
bogs down to battery life for me. But I’m sure next generations will get much 
better, especially with the upcoming leaps in battery life.

All the best,






> On 19/04/2015, at 6:32 am, gs  wrote:
> 
> I guess this is a very wise way to look at things with regard to the 14 days. 
> I just can't see myself getting too much use from it as others have said. I 
> keep my phone in my shirt pocket within easy reach and earpods around my 
> neck. I don't like the way the blue tooth headsets I have tried work with VO 
> and just don't see how having something on my wrist is really going to make 
> that much difference. Maybe I'm off track on this. For visual users I do 
> understand it though.
> 
> 
> On Apr 18, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided to take a 
> look at the Apple watch.  I was very interested in it, but not sure what I 
> would think, based on the mixed reviews I've seen.  It was hard to tell much 
> because they weren't able to demo voiceover, but I liked the form factor, and 
> thought the stuff I was hearing from the video demo was pretty cool.  Since I 
> have fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, I decided to go ahead and 
> pre-order one.  I just got the aluminum sports model, because I figure it's 
> highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when newer generations are released, 
> so didn't see the sense in shelling out the extra $200.  Looking forward to 
> its arrival and getting to actually put it through its paces.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[gs]

I guess this is a very wise way to look at things with regard to the 14 days. I 
just can't see myself getting too much use from it as others have said. I keep 
my phone in my shirt pocket within easy reach and earpods around my neck. I 
don't like the way the blue tooth headsets I have tried work with VO and just 
don't see how having something on my wrist is really going to make that much 
difference. Maybe I'm off track on this. For visual users I do understand it 
though.


On Apr 18, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided to take a 
look at the Apple watch.  I was very interested in it, but not sure what I 
would think, based on the mixed reviews I've seen.  It was hard to tell much 
because they weren't able to demo voiceover, but I liked the form factor, and 
thought the stuff I was hearing from the video demo was pretty cool.  Since I 
have fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, I decided to go ahead and 
pre-order one.  I just got the aluminum sports model, because I figure it's 
highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when newer generations are released, so 
didn't see the sense in shelling out the extra $200.  Looking forward to its 
arrival and getting to actually put it through its paces.
Cheers,
Donna

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RE: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[george b]

Cool, when will you get yours late july...LOL


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On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 13:23
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided to take a 
look at the Apple watch.  I was very interested in it, but not sure what I 
would think, based on the mixed reviews I've seen.  It was hard to tell much 
because they weren't able to demo voiceover, but I liked the form factor, and 
thought the stuff I was hearing from the video demo was pretty cool.  Since I 
have fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, I decided to go ahead and 
pre-order one.  I just got the aluminum sports model, because I figure it's 
highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when newer generations are released, so 
didn't see the sense in shelling out the extra $200.  Looking forward to its 
arrival and getting to actually put it through its paces.
Cheers,
Donna

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Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Donna Goodin]

I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided to take a 
look at the Apple watch.  I was very interested in it, but not sure what I 
would think, based on the mixed reviews I've seen.  It was hard to tell much 
because they weren't able to demo voiceover, but I liked the form factor, and 
thought the stuff I was hearing from the video demo was pretty cool.  Since I 
have fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, I decided to go ahead and 
pre-order one.  I just got the aluminum sports model, because I figure it's 
highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when newer generations are released, so 
didn't see the sense in shelling out the extra $200.  Looking forward to its 
arrival and getting to actually put it through its paces.
Cheers,
Donna

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Re: I did it! Bye bye Windows!

[Kerri]

May I inquire why you wouldn't purchase a computer from best buy BTW, this mac 
does not come from there but was curious as eople are asking me about acquiring 
a mac.
On 2013-02-04, at 5:37 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> cool!
> 
> This is exactly why I wouldn't buy a computer, tablet, or phone from BestBuy 
> for anything.  I avoid that place like it had the plague.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Feb 4, 2013, at 7:53 AM, Erik Heil  wrote:
> 
>> Hey chris,
>> Congrats! I don't have a Mac myself, but I'm using this list as a learning 
>> experience when I do get a Mac, which hopefully should be in the near 
>> future. i"ll have to admit that Alex is one of the major highlights of the 
>> Mac experience imho. So, you're on a winning streak. BTW if you wanted to 
>> run Windows on the same machine as OSX, there's no reason why you can't run 
>> it within a virtual machine. You mentioned your specs, and for a serious VM 
>> installation, its not possible, but you could do basic tasks with a Windows 
>> VM. Allocate 1GB of RAM to it, and Windows should run OK. Not ideally, but 
>> it would be a at least functional experience.
>> --Erik
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> Nice one Chris. I'm not a full Mac user due to having to use Windows at work.
>> On 4 Feb 2013, at 11:37 AM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
>> 
>>> I did it!  I actually? did it!  Just two days ago, on Saturday, I went up 
>>> to Best Buy and with a chunk of extra income I had this month, I bit the 
>>> bullet and bought me a mac mini!  So now I have my 13 inch mid 2010 white 
>>> macbook, and I also now have this mini.  I am taking the mini  back to 
>>> swap, as Best Buy messed up though.  They gave me an opened box mid 2011 
>>> model.  They didn't even tell me it was opened.  Imagine my horror when I 
>>> got home and tried with its serial number to register it.  It told me the 
>>> purchase date I entered was not correct.  When I called Apple, they told me 
>>> it had been purchased by someone else over a year ago.  We went and looked 
>>> in the About this Mac page and saw it was a mid 2011, not the newest 2012 
>>> model.  That really pissed me off.  Anyway, I called Best Buy and spoke 
>>> with the manager.  He was extremely apologetic, and said if I could run it 
>>> up there, he'd swap it for no cost for the correct newer 2012 model.  I 
>>> love this system as is, but it's only got the I5, 2GB ram, where what I 
>>> wanted was the I5 4GB ram.  NOt only that but I discovered this morning 
>>> earlier when trying to charge my IPhone, that one of the USB ports is bad.  
>>> I'm not very happy about this transaction, but, here is the bottom line.  
>>> It's gonna get swapped, and then I'll use Migration assistance and move all 
>>> my stuff from the macbook back over which won't take but maybe an hour or 
>>> so, so really, I'm honestly not very concerned as far as losing data.  I 
>>> have this thing right now hooked up to my 5.1 home theater system via HDMI, 
>>> high deff, and I gotta tell you, sitting here now typing this e-mail on the 
>>> thing… this is amazing!  I never thought Alex could sound so good through a 
>>> set of surround speakers.  I shutter to think once I get the new system 
>>> with the 4GB ram how good this will be.  I actually don't even have my 
>>> windows desktop hooked up any more.  If I absolutely must do windows, I 
>>> have a Dell Inspiron system I can use in a pinch, although I'd rather not, 
>>> if I can help it.  LOL!
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I am so glad to finally officially be a full mac user!  I still 
>>> find myself wanting to fall back on Windows, but my guess is now that I 
>>> don't have an easy way to do so, in time I'll get more used to things over 
>>> here.  I know what I'm doing, it's just a bit awkward.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, just wanted to share.  Hope that was OK.
>>> 
>>> Chris Gilland
>>> Founder of CLG Productions
>>> http://www.clgproductions.com
>>> Phone: 803-760-7136
>>> Toll-free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except 
>>> weekends and holidays
>>> 
>>> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
>>> 
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Re: I did it! Bye bye Windows!

[Chris Gilland]

Gigi,

I have to agree.  Though I'm ticked to no end that they did to me what they 
did, and though I have my suspitions if it was done unintentionally or not, the 
bottom line is, they're trying to work with me.  It took some complaining, but 
I didn't have to raise much of a stink, thank goodness, as had I, I definitely 
would a.

Chris Gilland
Founder of CLG Productions
http://www.clgproductions.com
Phone: 803-760-7136
Toll-free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except 
weekends and holidays

E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com

On Feb 4, 2013, at 8:40 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi guys
> In all fairness, I do have a friend, a sighted friend, that bought a Mac book 
> from Best Buy. She paid for accident protection or something like that. One 
> fine day she spilled a cup of water into her computer. She took it back to 
> Best Buy, and after they determined that they couldn't fix it, they replaced 
> it. So, I guess it just depends on the people you're dealing with.
> Regards
> Gigi
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 4, 2013, at 7:37 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
>> cool!
>> 
>> This is exactly why I wouldn't buy a computer, tablet, or phone from BestBuy 
>> for anything.  I avoid that place like it had the plague.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Feb 4, 2013, at 7:53 AM, Erik Heil  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey chris,
>>> Congrats! I don't have a Mac myself, but I'm using this list as a learning 
>>> experience when I do get a Mac, which hopefully should be in the near 
>>> future. i"ll have to admit that Alex is one of the major highlights of the 
>>> Mac experience imho. So, you're on a winning streak. BTW if you wanted to 
>>> run Windows on the same machine as OSX, there's no reason why you can't run 
>>> it within a virtual machine. You mentioned your specs, and for a serious VM 
>>> installation, its not possible, but you could do basic tasks with a Windows 
>>> VM. Allocate 1GB of RAM to it, and Windows should run OK. Not ideally, but 
>>> it would be a at least functional experience.
>>> --Erik
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> Nice one Chris. I'm not a full Mac user due to having to use Windows at 
>>> work.
>>> On 4 Feb 2013, at 11:37 AM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I did it!  I actually? did it!  Just two days ago, on Saturday, I went up 
>>>> to Best Buy and with a chunk of extra income I had this month, I bit the 
>>>> bullet and bought me a mac mini!  So now I have my 13 inch mid 2010 white 
>>>> macbook, and I also now have this mini.  I am taking the mini  back to 
>>>> swap, as Best Buy messed up though.  They gave me an opened box mid 2011 
>>>> model.  They didn't even tell me it was opened.  Imagine my horror when I 
>>>> got home and tried with its serial number to register it.  It told me the 
>>>> purchase date I entered was not correct.  When I called Apple, they told 
>>>> me it had been purchased by someone else over a year ago.  We went and 
>>>> looked in the About this Mac page and saw it was a mid 2011, not the 
>>>> newest 2012 model.  That really pissed me off.  Anyway, I called Best Buy 
>>>> and spoke with the manager.  He was extremely apologetic, and said if I 
>>>> could run it up there, he'd swap it for no cost for the correct newer 2012 
>>>> model.  I love this system as is, but it's only got the I5, 2GB ram, where 
>>>> what I wanted was the I5 4GB ram.  NOt only that but I discovered this 
>>>> morning earlier when trying to charge my IPhone, that one of the USB ports 
>>>> is bad.  I'm not very happy about this transaction, but, here is the 
>>>> bottom line.  It's gonna get swapped, and then I'll use Migration 
>>>> assistance and move all my stuff from the macbook back over which won't 
>>>> take but maybe an hour or so, so really, I'm honestly not very concerned 
>>>> as far as losing data.  I have this thing right now hooked up to my 5.1 
>>>> home theater system via HDMI, high deff, and I gotta tell you, sitting 
>>>> here now typing this e-mail on the thing… this is amazing!  I never 
>>>> thought Alex could sound so good through a set of surround speakers.  I 
>>>> shutter to think once I get the new system with the 4GB ram how good this 
>>>> will be

Re: I did it! Bye bye Windows!

[Chris Gilland]

I'm already growing to love this thing!  I'm so happy I made the switch.

Chris Gilland
Founder of CLG Productions
http://www.clgproductions.com
Phone: 803-760-7136
Toll-free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except 
weekends and holidays

E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com

On Feb 4, 2013, at 7:53 AM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:

> Chris,
> that's wonderful.
> You'll get used to the mac in time.
> I love mine.
> On Feb 4, 2013, at 5:37 AM, Chris Gilland wrote:
> 
>> I did it!  I actually? did it!  Just two days ago, on Saturday, I went up to 
>> Best Buy and with a chunk of extra income I had this month, I bit the bullet 
>> and bought me a mac mini!  So now I have my 13 inch mid 2010 white macbook, 
>> and I also now have this mini.  I am taking the mini  back to swap, as Best 
>> Buy messed up though.  They gave me an opened box mid 2011 model.  They 
>> didn't even tell me it was opened.  Imagine my horror when I got home and 
>> tried with its serial number to register it.  It told me the purchase date I 
>> entered was not correct.  When I called Apple, they told me it had been 
>> purchased by someone else over a year ago.  We went and looked in the About 
>> this Mac page and saw it was a mid 2011, not the newest 2012 model.  That 
>> really pissed me off.  Anyway, I called Best Buy and spoke with the manager. 
>>  He was extremely apologetic, and said if I could run it up there, he'd swap 
>> it for no cost for the correct newer 2012 model.  I love this system as is, 
>> but it's only got the I5, 2GB ram, where what I wanted was the I5 4GB ram.  
>> NOt only that but I discovered this morning earlier when trying to charge my 
>> IPhone, that one of the USB ports is bad.  I'm not very happy about this 
>> transaction, but, here is the bottom line.  It's gonna get swapped, and then 
>> I'll use Migration assistance and move all my stuff from the macbook back 
>> over which won't take but maybe an hour or so, so really, I'm honestly not 
>> very concerned as far as losing data.  I have this thing right now hooked up 
>> to my 5.1 home theater system via HDMI, high deff, and I gotta tell you, 
>> sitting here now typing this e-mail on the thing… this is amazing!  I never 
>> thought Alex could sound so good through a set of surround speakers.  I 
>> shutter to think once I get the new system with the 4GB ram how good this 
>> will be.  I actually don't even have my windows desktop hooked up any more.  
>> If I absolutely must do windows, I have a Dell Inspiron system I can use in 
>> a pinch, although I'd rather not, if I can help it.  LOL!
>> 
>> Anyway, I am so glad to finally officially be a full mac user!  I still find 
>> myself wanting to fall back on Windows, but my guess is now that I don't 
>> have an easy way to do so, in time I'll get more used to things over here.  
>> I know what I'm doing, it's just a bit awkward.
>> 
>> Anyway, just wanted to share.  Hope that was OK.
>> 
>> Chris Gilland
>> Founder of CLG Productions
>> http://www.clgproductions.com
>> Phone: 803-760-7136
>> Toll-free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except 
>> weekends and holidays
>> 
>> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
>> 
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Re: I did it! Bye bye Windows!

[Chris Gilland]

I personally have never in the past had issues with Best Buy let alone this 
franchise location.  Having said that I don't doubt your opinions.  You're not 
the first person who has had nothing but trouble.  Maybe I've just been lucky 
up to now.  Anyway, I am going to be getting it swapped, so I'm a happy camper. 
 Plus the fact they're even for an additional $100 gonna install more ram for 
me up to 16GB.  They even told me this time, they won't let me leave the store 
or even pay for the ram until I myself have had them plug the system into a 
keyboard and monitor behind the counter, and boot it up turn VO on, and make 
sure it is exactly to a T what I need.  So it really does sound like Erick is 
trying his best to make things right.  And, as I said he sounds very very 
embarrassed for what happened.  As long as he's willing to work with me, I'm 
personally willing to work with him to come to a good satisfactory resolution.

Chris Gilland
Founder of CLG Productions
http://www.clgproductions.com
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On Feb 4, 2013, at 8:12 AM, Michael Babcock  wrote:

> I already advised you of my opinion yesterday, however I have to say 
> unfortunately this is what happens when you work with Best Buy. This is one 
> of the main reasons why a lot of the retail stores are closing. However, 
> congratulations on the new Mac Mini. I am very excited for you!
> 
> http://empoweringtheblind.com
> Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
> 
> 
> On Feb 4, 2013, at 4:37 AM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
> 
>> I did it!  I actually? did it!  Just two days ago, on Saturday, I went up to 
>> Best Buy and with a chunk of extra income I had this month, I bit the bullet 
>> and bought me a mac mini!  So now I have my 13 inch mid 2010 white macbook, 
>> and I also now have this mini.  I am taking the mini  back to swap, as Best 
>> Buy messed up though.  They gave me an opened box mid 2011 model.  They 
>> didn't even tell me it was opened.  Imagine my horror when I got home and 
>> tried with its serial number to register it.  It told me the purchase date I 
>> entered was not correct.  When I called Apple, they told me it had been 
>> purchased by someone else over a year ago.  We went and looked in the About 
>> this Mac page and saw it was a mid 2011, not the newest 2012 model.  That 
>> really pissed me off.  Anyway, I called Best Buy and spoke with the manager. 
>>  He was extremely apologetic, and said if I could run it up there, he'd swap 
>> it for no cost for the correct newer 2012 model.  I love this system as is, 
>> but it's only got the I5, 2GB ram, where what I wanted was the I5 4GB ram.  
>> NOt only that but I discovered this morning earlier when trying to charge my 
>> IPhone, that one of the USB ports is bad.  I'm not very happy about this 
>> transaction, but, here is the bottom line.  It's gonna get swapped, and then 
>> I'll use Migration assistance and move all my stuff from the macbook back 
>> over which won't take but maybe an hour or so, so really, I'm honestly not 
>> very concerned as far as losing data.  I have this thing right now hooked up 
>> to my 5.1 home theater system via HDMI, high deff, and I gotta tell you, 
>> sitting here now typing this e-mail on the thing… this is amazing!  I never 
>> thought Alex could sound so good through a set of surround speakers.  I 
>> shutter to think once I get the new system with the 4GB ram how good this 
>> will be.  I actually don't even have my windows desktop hooked up any more.  
>> If I absolutely must do windows, I have a Dell Inspiron system I can use in 
>> a pinch, although I'd rather not, if I can help it.  LOL!
>> 
>> Anyway, I am so glad to finally officially be a full mac user!  I still find 
>> myself wanting to fall back on Windows, but my guess is now that I don't 
>> have an easy way to do so, in time I'll get more used to things over here.  
>> I know what I'm doing, it's just a bit awkward.
>> 
>> Anyway, just wanted to share.  Hope that was OK.
>> 
>> Chris Gilland
>> Founder of CLG Productions
>> http://www.clgproductions.com
>> Phone: 803-760-7136
>> Toll-free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except 
>> weekends and holidays
>> 
>> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
>> 
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Re: I did it! Bye bye Windows!

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi guys
In all fairness, I do have a friend, a sighted friend, that bought a Mac book 
from Best Buy. She paid for accident protection or something like that. One 
fine day she spilled a cup of water into her computer. She took it back to Best 
Buy, and after they determined that they couldn't fix it, they replaced it. So, 
I guess it just depends on the people you're dealing with.
Regards
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 4, 2013, at 7:37 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> cool!
> 
> This is exactly why I wouldn't buy a computer, tablet, or phone from BestBuy 
> for anything.  I avoid that place like it had the plague.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Feb 4, 2013, at 7:53 AM, Erik Heil  wrote:
> 
>> Hey chris,
>> Congrats! I don't have a Mac myself, but I'm using this list as a learning 
>> experience when I do get a Mac, which hopefully should be in the near 
>> future. i"ll have to admit that Alex is one of the major highlights of the 
>> Mac experience imho. So, you're on a winning streak. BTW if you wanted to 
>> run Windows on the same machine as OSX, there's no reason why you can't run 
>> it within a virtual machine. You mentioned your specs, and for a serious VM 
>> installation, its not possible, but you could do basic tasks with a Windows 
>> VM. Allocate 1GB of RAM to it, and Windows should run OK. Not ideally, but 
>> it would be a at least functional experience.
>> --Erik
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> Nice one Chris. I'm not a full Mac user due to having to use Windows at work.
>> On 4 Feb 2013, at 11:37 AM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
>> 
>>> I did it!  I actually? did it!  Just two days ago, on Saturday, I went up 
>>> to Best Buy and with a chunk of extra income I had this month, I bit the 
>>> bullet and bought me a mac mini!  So now I have my 13 inch mid 2010 white 
>>> macbook, and I also now have this mini.  I am taking the mini  back to 
>>> swap, as Best Buy messed up though.  They gave me an opened box mid 2011 
>>> model.  They didn't even tell me it was opened.  Imagine my horror when I 
>>> got home and tried with its serial number to register it.  It told me the 
>>> purchase date I entered was not correct.  When I called Apple, they told me 
>>> it had been purchased by someone else over a year ago.  We went and looked 
>>> in the About this Mac page and saw it was a mid 2011, not the newest 2012 
>>> model.  That really pissed me off.  Anyway, I called Best Buy and spoke 
>>> with the manager.  He was extremely apologetic, and said if I could run it 
>>> up there, he'd swap it for no cost for the correct newer 2012 model.  I 
>>> love this system as is, but it's only got the I5, 2GB ram, where what I 
>>> wanted was the I5 4GB ram.  NOt only that but I discovered this morning 
>>> earlier when trying to charge my IPhone, that one of the USB ports is bad.  
>>> I'm not very happy about this transaction, but, here is the bottom line.  
>>> It's gonna get swapped, and then I'll use Migration assistance and move all 
>>> my stuff from the macbook back over which won't take but maybe an hour or 
>>> so, so really, I'm honestly not very concerned as far as losing data.  I 
>>> have this thing right now hooked up to my 5.1 home theater system via HDMI, 
>>> high deff, and I gotta tell you, sitting here now typing this e-mail on the 
>>> thing… this is amazing!  I never thought Alex could sound so good through a 
>>> set of surround speakers.  I shutter to think once I get the new system 
>>> with the 4GB ram how good this will be.  I actually don't even have my 
>>> windows desktop hooked up any more.  If I absolutely must do windows, I 
>>> have a Dell Inspiron system I can use in a pinch, although I'd rather not, 
>>> if I can help it.  LOL!
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I am so glad to finally officially be a full mac user!  I still 
>>> find myself wanting to fall back on Windows, but my guess is now that I 
>>> don't have an easy way to do so, in time I'll get more used to things over 
>>> here.  I know what I'm doing, it's just a bit awkward.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, just wanted to share.  Hope that was OK.
>>> 
>>> Chris Gilland
>>> Founder of CLG Productions
>>> http://www.clgproductions.com
>>> Phone: 803-760-7136
>>> Toll-free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standar

Re: I did it! Bye bye Windows!

[Ricardo Walker]

cool!

This is exactly why I wouldn't buy a computer, tablet, or phone from BestBuy 
for anything.  I avoid that place like it had the plague.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Feb 4, 2013, at 7:53 AM, Erik Heil  wrote:

> Hey chris,
> Congrats! I don't have a Mac myself, but I'm using this list as a learning 
> experience when I do get a Mac, which hopefully should be in the near future. 
> i"ll have to admit that Alex is one of the major highlights of the Mac 
> experience imho. So, you're on a winning streak. BTW if you wanted to run 
> Windows on the same machine as OSX, there's no reason why you can't run it 
> within a virtual machine. You mentioned your specs, and for a serious VM 
> installation, its not possible, but you could do basic tasks with a Windows 
> VM. Allocate 1GB of RAM to it, and Windows should run OK. Not ideally, but it 
> would be a at least functional experience.
> --Erik
> 
> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> Nice one Chris. I'm not a full Mac user due to having to use Windows at work.
> On 4 Feb 2013, at 11:37 AM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
> 
>> I did it!  I actually? did it!  Just two days ago, on Saturday, I went up to 
>> Best Buy and with a chunk of extra income I had this month, I bit the bullet 
>> and bought me a mac mini!  So now I have my 13 inch mid 2010 white macbook, 
>> and I also now have this mini.  I am taking the mini  back to swap, as Best 
>> Buy messed up though.  They gave me an opened box mid 2011 model.  They 
>> didn't even tell me it was opened.  Imagine my horror when I got home and 
>> tried with its serial number to register it.  It told me the purchase date I 
>> entered was not correct.  When I called Apple, they told me it had been 
>> purchased by someone else over a year ago.  We went and looked in the About 
>> this Mac page and saw it was a mid 2011, not the newest 2012 model.  That 
>> really pissed me off.  Anyway, I called Best Buy and spoke with the manager. 
>>  He was extremely apologetic, and said if I could run it up there, he'd swap 
>> it for no cost for the correct newer 2012 model.  I love this system as is, 
>> but it's only got the I5, 2GB ram, where what I wanted was the I5 4GB ram.  
>> NOt only that but I discovered this morning earlier when trying to charge my 
>> IPhone, that one of the USB ports is bad.  I'm not very happy about this 
>> transaction, but, here is the bottom line.  It's gonna get swapped, and then 
>> I'll use Migration assistance and move all my stuff from the macbook back 
>> over which won't take but maybe an hour or so, so really, I'm honestly not 
>> very concerned as far as losing data.  I have this thing right now hooked up 
>> to my 5.1 home theater system via HDMI, high deff, and I gotta tell you, 
>> sitting here now typing this e-mail on the thing… this is amazing!  I never 
>> thought Alex could sound so good through a set of surround speakers.  I 
>> shutter to think once I get the new system with the 4GB ram how good this 
>> will be.  I actually don't even have my windows desktop hooked up any more.  
>> If I absolutely must do windows, I have a Dell Inspiron system I can use in 
>> a pinch, although I'd rather not, if I can help it.  LOL!
>> 
>> Anyway, I am so glad to finally officially be a full mac user!  I still find 
>> myself wanting to fall back on Windows, but my guess is now that I don't 
>> have an easy way to do so, in time I'll get more used to things over here.  
>> I know what I'm doing, it's just a bit awkward.
>> 
>> Anyway, just wanted to share.  Hope that was OK.
>> 
>> Chris Gilland
>> Founder of CLG Productions
>> http://www.clgproductions.com
>> Phone: 803-760-7136
>> Toll-free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except 
>> weekends and holidays
>> 
>> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
>> 
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Re: I did it! Bye bye Windows!

[Michael Babcock]

I already advised you of my opinion yesterday, however I have to say 
unfortunately this is what happens when you work with Best Buy. This is one of 
the main reasons why a lot of the retail stores are closing. However, 
congratulations on the new Mac Mini. I am very excited for you!

http://empoweringtheblind.com
Empowering the blind, one step at a time.


On Feb 4, 2013, at 4:37 AM, Chris Gilland  wrote:

> I did it!  I actually? did it!  Just two days ago, on Saturday, I went up to 
> Best Buy and with a chunk of extra income I had this month, I bit the bullet 
> and bought me a mac mini!  So now I have my 13 inch mid 2010 white macbook, 
> and I also now have this mini.  I am taking the mini  back to swap, as Best 
> Buy messed up though.  They gave me an opened box mid 2011 model.  They 
> didn't even tell me it was opened.  Imagine my horror when I got home and 
> tried with its serial number to register it.  It told me the purchase date I 
> entered was not correct.  When I called Apple, they told me it had been 
> purchased by someone else over a year ago.  We went and looked in the About 
> this Mac page and saw it was a mid 2011, not the newest 2012 model.  That 
> really pissed me off.  Anyway, I called Best Buy and spoke with the manager.  
> He was extremely apologetic, and said if I could run it up there, he'd swap 
> it for no cost for the correct newer 2012 model.  I love this system as is, 
> but it's only got the I5, 2GB ram, where what I wanted was the I5 4GB ram.  
> NOt only that but I discovered this morning earlier when trying to charge my 
> IPhone, that one of the USB ports is bad.  I'm not very happy about this 
> transaction, but, here is the bottom line.  It's gonna get swapped, and then 
> I'll use Migration assistance and move all my stuff from the macbook back 
> over which won't take but maybe an hour or so, so really, I'm honestly not 
> very concerned as far as losing data.  I have this thing right now hooked up 
> to my 5.1 home theater system via HDMI, high deff, and I gotta tell you, 
> sitting here now typing this e-mail on the thing… this is amazing!  I never 
> thought Alex could sound so good through a set of surround speakers.  I 
> shutter to think once I get the new system with the 4GB ram how good this 
> will be.  I actually don't even have my windows desktop hooked up any more.  
> If I absolutely must do windows, I have a Dell Inspiron system I can use in a 
> pinch, although I'd rather not, if I can help it.  LOL!
> 
> Anyway, I am so glad to finally officially be a full mac user!  I still find 
> myself wanting to fall back on Windows, but my guess is now that I don't have 
> an easy way to do so, in time I'll get more used to things over here.  I know 
> what I'm doing, it's just a bit awkward.
> 
> Anyway, just wanted to share.  Hope that was OK.
> 
> Chris Gilland
> Founder of CLG Productions
> http://www.clgproductions.com
> Phone: 803-760-7136
> Toll-free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except 
> weekends and holidays
> 
> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
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Re: I did it! Bye bye Windows!

[Stacey Robinson]

Chris,
that's wonderful.
You'll get used to the mac in time.
I love mine.
On Feb 4, 2013, at 5:37 AM, Chris Gilland wrote:

> I did it!  I actually? did it!  Just two days ago, on Saturday, I went up to 
> Best Buy and with a chunk of extra income I had this month, I bit the bullet 
> and bought me a mac mini!  So now I have my 13 inch mid 2010 white macbook, 
> and I also now have this mini.  I am taking the mini  back to swap, as Best 
> Buy messed up though.  They gave me an opened box mid 2011 model.  They 
> didn't even tell me it was opened.  Imagine my horror when I got home and 
> tried with its serial number to register it.  It told me the purchase date I 
> entered was not correct.  When I called Apple, they told me it had been 
> purchased by someone else over a year ago.  We went and looked in the About 
> this Mac page and saw it was a mid 2011, not the newest 2012 model.  That 
> really pissed me off.  Anyway, I called Best Buy and spoke with the manager.  
> He was extremely apologetic, and said if I could run it up there, he'd swap 
> it for no cost for the correct newer 2012 model.  I love this system as is, 
> but it's only got the I5, 2GB ram, where what I wanted was the I5 4GB ram.  
> NOt only that but I discovered this morning earlier when trying to charge my 
> IPhone, that one of the USB ports is bad.  I'm not very happy about this 
> transaction, but, here is the bottom line.  It's gonna get swapped, and then 
> I'll use Migration assistance and move all my stuff from the macbook back 
> over which won't take but maybe an hour or so, so really, I'm honestly not 
> very concerned as far as losing data.  I have this thing right now hooked up 
> to my 5.1 home theater system via HDMI, high deff, and I gotta tell you, 
> sitting here now typing this e-mail on the thing… this is amazing!  I never 
> thought Alex could sound so good through a set of surround speakers.  I 
> shutter to think once I get the new system with the 4GB ram how good this 
> will be.  I actually don't even have my windows desktop hooked up any more.  
> If I absolutely must do windows, I have a Dell Inspiron system I can use in a 
> pinch, although I'd rather not, if I can help it.  LOL!
> 
> Anyway, I am so glad to finally officially be a full mac user!  I still find 
> myself wanting to fall back on Windows, but my guess is now that I don't have 
> an easy way to do so, in time I'll get more used to things over here.  I know 
> what I'm doing, it's just a bit awkward.
> 
> Anyway, just wanted to share.  Hope that was OK.
> 
> Chris Gilland
> Founder of CLG Productions
> http://www.clgproductions.com
> Phone: 803-760-7136
> Toll-free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except 
> weekends and holidays
> 
> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
> 
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Re: I did it! Bye bye Windows!

[Erik Heil]

Hey chris,
Congrats! I don't have a Mac myself, but I'm using this list as a learning
experience when I do get a Mac, which hopefully should be in the near
future. i"ll have to admit that Alex is one of the major highlights of the
Mac experience imho. So, you're on a winning streak. BTW if you wanted to
run Windows on the same machine as OSX, there's no reason why you can't run
it within a virtual machine. You mentioned your specs, and for a serious VM
installation, its not possible, but you could do basic tasks with a Windows
VM. Allocate 1GB of RAM to it, and Windows should run OK. Not ideally, but
it would be a at least functional experience.
--Erik

On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> Nice one Chris. I'm not a full Mac user due to having to use Windows at
> work.
> On 4 Feb 2013, at 11:37 AM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
>
> I did it!  I actually? did it!  Just two days ago, on Saturday, I went up
> to Best Buy and with a chunk of extra income I had this month, I bit the
> bullet and bought me a mac mini!  So now I have my 13 inch mid 2010 white
> macbook, and I also now have this mini.  I am taking the mini  back to
> swap, as Best Buy messed up though.  They gave me an opened box mid 2011
> model.  They didn't even tell me it was opened.  Imagine my horror when I
> got home and tried with its serial number to register it.  It told me the
> purchase date I entered was not correct.  When I called Apple, they told me
> it had been purchased by someone else over a year ago.  We went and looked
> in the About this Mac page and saw it was a mid 2011, not the newest 2012
> model.  That really pissed me off.  Anyway, I called Best Buy and spoke
> with the manager.  He was extremely apologetic, and said if I could run it
> up there, he'd swap it for no cost for the correct newer 2012 model.  I
> love this system as is, but it's only got the I5, 2GB ram, where what I
> wanted was the I5 4GB ram.  NOt only that but I discovered this morning
> earlier when trying to charge my IPhone, that one of the USB ports is bad.
>  I'm not very happy about this transaction, but, here is the bottom line.
>  It's gonna get swapped, and then I'll use Migration assistance and move
> all my stuff from the macbook back over which won't take but maybe an hour
> or so, so really, I'm honestly not very concerned as far as losing data.  I
> have this thing right now hooked up to my 5.1 home theater system via HDMI,
> high deff, and I gotta tell you, sitting here now typing this e-mail on the
> thing… this is amazing!  I never thought Alex could sound so good through a
> set of surround speakers.  I shutter to think once I get the new system
> with the 4GB ram how good this will be.  I actually don't even have my
> windows desktop hooked up any more.  If I absolutely must do windows, I
> have a Dell Inspiron system I can use in a pinch, although I'd rather not,
> if I can help it.  LOL!
>
> Anyway, I am so glad to finally officially be a full mac user!  I still
> find myself wanting to fall back on Windows, but my guess is now that I
> don't have an easy way to do so, in time I'll get more used to things over
> here.  I know what I'm doing, it's just a bit awkward.
>
> Anyway, just wanted to share.  Hope that was OK.
>
> Chris Gilland
> Founder of CLG Productions
> http://www.clgproductions.com
> Phone: 803-760-7136
> Toll-free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except
> weekends and holidays
>
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Re: I did it! Bye bye Windows!

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Nice one Chris. I'm not a full Mac user due to having to use Windows at work.
On 4 Feb 2013, at 11:37 AM, Chris Gilland  wrote:

> I did it!  I actually? did it!  Just two days ago, on Saturday, I went up to 
> Best Buy and with a chunk of extra income I had this month, I bit the bullet 
> and bought me a mac mini!  So now I have my 13 inch mid 2010 white macbook, 
> and I also now have this mini.  I am taking the mini  back to swap, as Best 
> Buy messed up though.  They gave me an opened box mid 2011 model.  They 
> didn't even tell me it was opened.  Imagine my horror when I got home and 
> tried with its serial number to register it.  It told me the purchase date I 
> entered was not correct.  When I called Apple, they told me it had been 
> purchased by someone else over a year ago.  We went and looked in the About 
> this Mac page and saw it was a mid 2011, not the newest 2012 model.  That 
> really pissed me off.  Anyway, I called Best Buy and spoke with the manager.  
> He was extremely apologetic, and said if I could run it up there, he'd swap 
> it for no cost for the correct newer 2012 model.  I love this system as is, 
> but it's only got the I5, 2GB ram, where what I wanted was the I5 4GB ram.  
> NOt only that but I discovered this morning earlier when trying to charge my 
> IPhone, that one of the USB ports is bad.  I'm not very happy about this 
> transaction, but, here is the bottom line.  It's gonna get swapped, and then 
> I'll use Migration assistance and move all my stuff from the macbook back 
> over which won't take but maybe an hour or so, so really, I'm honestly not 
> very concerned as far as losing data.  I have this thing right now hooked up 
> to my 5.1 home theater system via HDMI, high deff, and I gotta tell you, 
> sitting here now typing this e-mail on the thing… this is amazing!  I never 
> thought Alex could sound so good through a set of surround speakers.  I 
> shutter to think once I get the new system with the 4GB ram how good this 
> will be.  I actually don't even have my windows desktop hooked up any more.  
> If I absolutely must do windows, I have a Dell Inspiron system I can use in a 
> pinch, although I'd rather not, if I can help it.  LOL!
> 
> Anyway, I am so glad to finally officially be a full mac user!  I still find 
> myself wanting to fall back on Windows, but my guess is now that I don't have 
> an easy way to do so, in time I'll get more used to things over here.  I know 
> what I'm doing, it's just a bit awkward.
> 
> Anyway, just wanted to share.  Hope that was OK.
> 
> Chris Gilland
> Founder of CLG Productions
> http://www.clgproductions.com
> Phone: 803-760-7136
> Toll-free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except 
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Re: I did it! Bye bye Windows!

[Chris Gilland]

OK, I confess I've had access to a mac for a while before my mini, but really 
haven't used the mail app much.  I hope I'm doing this right by replying.  I 
just hit command r on your message which seems to have worked.  I'm really 
enujoing it so far.  I actually have YoruFukurou and Pianopub running and am 
listenning to a praise and worship station in Pandora with Pianopub that I 
created a while back based off the artist Chris Tomlin.  The sound is 
unbelievable, especially since I have it going through surround sound.  I even 
have Adium up and running.

Chris Gilland
Founder of CLG Productions
http://www.clgproductions.com
Phone: 803-760-7136
Toll-free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except 
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On Feb 4, 2013, at 7:07 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> Hi, Chris,
> 
> Congrats! I was very excited when I got my Mac Mini in April 2010. It was 
> like Christmas all over again. Anyhow, I plunged in without a backward 
> glance, figuratively speaking, and I haven't regretted it. The only thing I 
> really have missed are my favorite games in Windows, but that's even being 
> rectified with the help of those good Draconis folks. :)
> 
> That is really a shocker about the opened model. I'm glad that is being 
> resolved in a professional manner.
> 
> Anyhow, have fun.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> 
> "We're made of star-stuff."--Carl Sagan
> 
> On Feb 4, 2013, at 3:37 AM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
> 
>> I did it!  I actually? did it!  Just two days ago, on Saturday, I went up to 
>> Best Buy and with a chunk of extra income I had this month, I bit the bullet 
>> and bought me a mac mini!  So now I have my 13 inch mid 2010 white macbook, 
>> and I also now have this mini.  I am taking the mini  back to swap, as Best 
>> Buy messed up though.  They gave me an opened box mid 2011 model.  They 
>> didn't even tell me it was opened.  Imagine my horror when I got home and 
>> tried with its serial number to register it.  It told me the purchase date I 
>> entered was not correct.  When I called Apple, they told me it had been 
>> purchased by someone else over a year ago.  We went and looked in the About 
>> this Mac page and saw it was a mid 2011, not the newest 2012 model.  That 
>> really pissed me off.  Anyway, I called Best Buy and spoke with the manager. 
>>  He was extremely apologetic, and said if I could run it up there, he'd swap 
>> it for no cost for the correct newer 2012 model.  I love this system as is, 
>> but it's only got the I5, 2GB ram, where what I wanted was the I5 4GB ram.  
>> NOt only that but I discovered this morning earlier when trying to charge my 
>> IPhone, that one of the USB ports is bad.  I'm not very happy about this 
>> transaction, but, here is the bottom line.  It's gonna get swapped, and then 
>> I'll use Migration assistance and move all my stuff from the macbook back 
>> over which won't take but maybe an hour or so, so really, I'm honestly not 
>> very concerned as far as losing data.  I have this thing right now hooked up 
>> to my 5.1 home theater system via HDMI, high deff, and I gotta tell you, 
>> sitting here now typing this e-mail on the thing… this is amazing!  I never 
>> thought Alex could sound so good through a set of surround speakers.  I 
>> shutter to think once I get the new system with the 4GB ram how good this 
>> will be.  I actually don't even have my windows desktop hooked up any more.  
>> If I absolutely must do windows, I have a Dell Inspiron system I can use in 
>> a pinch, although I'd rather not, if I can help it.  LOL!
>> 
>> Anyway, I am so glad to finally officially be a full mac user!  I still find 
>> myself wanting to fall back on Windows, but my guess is now that I don't 
>> have an easy way to do so, in time I'll get more used to things over here.  
>> I know what I'm doing, it's just a bit awkward.
>> 
>> Anyway, just wanted to share.  Hope that was OK.
>> 
>> Chris Gilland
>> Founder of CLG Productions
>> http://www.clgproductions.com
>> Phone: 803-760-7136
>> Toll-free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except 
>> weekends and holidays
>> 
>> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
>> 
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Re: I did it! Bye bye Windows!

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, Chris,

Congrats! I was very excited when I got my Mac Mini in April 2010. It was like 
Christmas all over again. Anyhow, I plunged in without a backward glance, 
figuratively speaking, and I haven't regretted it. The only thing I really have 
missed are my favorite games in Windows, but that's even being rectified with 
the help of those good Draconis folks. :)

That is really a shocker about the opened model. I'm glad that is being 
resolved in a professional manner.

Anyhow, have fun.

Teresa


"We're made of star-stuff."--Carl Sagan

On Feb 4, 2013, at 3:37 AM, Chris Gilland  wrote:

> I did it!  I actually? did it!  Just two days ago, on Saturday, I went up to 
> Best Buy and with a chunk of extra income I had this month, I bit the bullet 
> and bought me a mac mini!  So now I have my 13 inch mid 2010 white macbook, 
> and I also now have this mini.  I am taking the mini  back to swap, as Best 
> Buy messed up though.  They gave me an opened box mid 2011 model.  They 
> didn't even tell me it was opened.  Imagine my horror when I got home and 
> tried with its serial number to register it.  It told me the purchase date I 
> entered was not correct.  When I called Apple, they told me it had been 
> purchased by someone else over a year ago.  We went and looked in the About 
> this Mac page and saw it was a mid 2011, not the newest 2012 model.  That 
> really pissed me off.  Anyway, I called Best Buy and spoke with the manager.  
> He was extremely apologetic, and said if I could run it up there, he'd swap 
> it for no cost for the correct newer 2012 model.  I love this system as is, 
> but it's only got the I5, 2GB ram, where what I wanted was the I5 4GB ram.  
> NOt only that but I discovered this morning earlier when trying to charge my 
> IPhone, that one of the USB ports is bad.  I'm not very happy about this 
> transaction, but, here is the bottom line.  It's gonna get swapped, and then 
> I'll use Migration assistance and move all my stuff from the macbook back 
> over which won't take but maybe an hour or so, so really, I'm honestly not 
> very concerned as far as losing data.  I have this thing right now hooked up 
> to my 5.1 home theater system via HDMI, high deff, and I gotta tell you, 
> sitting here now typing this e-mail on the thing… this is amazing!  I never 
> thought Alex could sound so good through a set of surround speakers.  I 
> shutter to think once I get the new system with the 4GB ram how good this 
> will be.  I actually don't even have my windows desktop hooked up any more.  
> If I absolutely must do windows, I have a Dell Inspiron system I can use in a 
> pinch, although I'd rather not, if I can help it.  LOL!
> 
> Anyway, I am so glad to finally officially be a full mac user!  I still find 
> myself wanting to fall back on Windows, but my guess is now that I don't have 
> an easy way to do so, in time I'll get more used to things over here.  I know 
> what I'm doing, it's just a bit awkward.
> 
> Anyway, just wanted to share.  Hope that was OK.
> 
> Chris Gilland
> Founder of CLG Productions
> http://www.clgproductions.com
> Phone: 803-760-7136
> Toll-free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except 
> weekends and holidays
> 
> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
> 
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I did it! Bye bye Windows!

[Chris Gilland]

I did it!  I actually? did it!  Just two days ago, on Saturday, I went up to 
Best Buy and with a chunk of extra income I had this month, I bit the bullet 
and bought me a mac mini!  So now I have my 13 inch mid 2010 white macbook, and 
I also now have this mini.  I am taking the mini  back to swap, as Best Buy 
messed up though.  They gave me an opened box mid 2011 model.  They didn't even 
tell me it was opened.  Imagine my horror when I got home and tried with its 
serial number to register it.  It told me the purchase date I entered was not 
correct.  When I called Apple, they told me it had been purchased by someone 
else over a year ago.  We went and looked in the About this Mac page and saw it 
was a mid 2011, not the newest 2012 model.  That really pissed me off.  Anyway, 
I called Best Buy and spoke with the manager.  He was extremely apologetic, and 
said if I could run it up there, he'd swap it for no cost for the correct newer 
2012 model.  I love this system as is, but it's only got the I5, 2GB ram, where 
what I wanted was the I5 4GB ram.  NOt only that but I discovered this morning 
earlier when trying to charge my IPhone, that one of the USB ports is bad.  I'm 
not very happy about this transaction, but, here is the bottom line.  It's 
gonna get swapped, and then I'll use Migration assistance and move all my stuff 
from the macbook back over which won't take but maybe an hour or so, so really, 
I'm honestly not very concerned as far as losing data.  I have this thing right 
now hooked up to my 5.1 home theater system via HDMI, high deff, and I gotta 
tell you, sitting here now typing this e-mail on the thing… this is amazing!  I 
never thought Alex could sound so good through a set of surround speakers.  I 
shutter to think once I get the new system with the 4GB ram how good this will 
be.  I actually don't even have my windows desktop hooked up any more.  If I 
absolutely must do windows, I have a Dell Inspiron system I can use in a pinch, 
although I'd rather not, if I can help it.  LOL!

Anyway, I am so glad to finally officially be a full mac user!  I still find 
myself wanting to fall back on Windows, but my guess is now that I don't have 
an easy way to do so, in time I'll get more used to things over here.  I know 
what I'm doing, it's just a bit awkward.

Anyway, just wanted to share.  Hope that was OK.

Chris Gilland
Founder of CLG Productions
http://www.clgproductions.com
Phone: 803-760-7136
Toll-free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except 
weekends and holidays

E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com

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Re: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right

[Maria Chapman]

mmm maybe i'm lucky but i've never had a problem with vo not speaking at the 
log in screen

God Bless! Maria from australia
 Newbie mac user.
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skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl 








On 06/05/2012, at 5:46 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I highly doubt you needed to reinstall for that. That's a known issue in
> Lion, where Voiceover will not speak at the login field, even though it's
> set to. In fact, there are bugs with VO starting on startup in lion in
> general.
> I've reported them to Apple for investigation, so perhaps they'll be
> addressed in Mountain Lion.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Keller
> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 2:44 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it
> right
> 
> I don't know yet, I only turned on my computer once since then and it went
> directly to the desk top, but that doesn't mean anything, it only means that
> it hasn't had time to act weird yet.
> 
> We'll see the next time I shut down and turn it back on.
> 
> Keep your fingers crossed.
> 
> Jenny
> On May 5, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Scott Rumery wrote:
> 
>> The question you need to ask yourself is, did it fix my problem?  I love
> how easy it is to get all back up and running on my Mac.  Much easier than
> reinstalling Windows.
>> 
>> Scott
>> On May 5, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Jenny Keller wrote:
>> 
>>> I was having problems with my operating system, Lion, popping up with a
> log in field and no voice over even though it was set up to come on with the
> log in field, but it was also set to just log in without being loged in.
>>> 
>>> Someone told me to reinstall Lion, using command R and holding it down
> until the computer booted up.  
>>> 
>>> Well, I did that, but I'm not sure I did it right.
>>> 
>>> I told it to install Lion new, and it asked me to restart the machine so
> I did.  
>>> 
>>> what was the point of that, it seemed too easy.
>>> 
>>> Did I do something wrong?
>>> 
>>> Jenny
>>> 
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Re: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right

[Kliphton]

You can contact me off list or on skype and I can walk you through it.  My info 
is below.
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On May 5, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Jenny Keller wrote:

> It was almost like it just booted up normally.
> 
> I didn't know how to do it, so I probably did it wrong.  But o yes, there 
> must be a pod cast for that too since my questions are too inconvenient for 
> the listers to answer and I need to be spoon fed and am too lazy aparently to 
> look it up.
> 
> Jenny
> On May 5, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Kliphton wrote:
> 
>> That depends on how long it took.  I've done it twice, and both times it
>> took almost 5 hours.  How long did yours take?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Keller
>> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 10:02 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right
>> 
>> I was having problems with my operating system, Lion, popping up with a log
>> in field and no voice over even though it was set up to come on with the log
>> in field, but it was also set to just log in without being loged in.
>> 
>> Someone told me to reinstall Lion, using command R and holding it down until
>> the computer booted up.  
>> 
>> Well, I did that, but I'm not sure I did it right.
>> 
>> I told it to install Lion new, and it asked me to restart the machine so I
>> did.  
>> 
>> what was the point of that, it seemed too easy.
>> 
>> Did I do something wrong?
>> 
>> Jenny
>> 
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Re: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right

[Kliphton]

I can't say to much here because of my agreement with the dev team.  But I can 
say you will be pleasantly surprised with mountain lion.  And the reason it 
took five hours to reinstall lion, is because I erased my hard drive first.  
Sorry, should have specified that.
On May 5, 2012, at 2:51 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:

> LOL! That is an understatement: VO start-up under lion being buggy. A few 
> months ago, I did a clean install to see if it
> would help, but as far as I was concerned, the clean install had way more 
> quirks than my upgrade install. Thank God for
> Carbon Copy Cloner; I just restored my original lion install, and have 
> resigned myself to dealing with VO's quirks. Every
> time a lion update is released, I keep hoping they'll fix whatever they 
> broke, but so far, no dice. I'm a bit nervous about
> Mountain Lion, but hopefully it will end up being better than Lion. I guess 
> only time will tell.
> I guess the poit is that I agree with Daniel; reinstalling lion to fix that 1 
> little quirk was probably overkill, but at
> least Apple has made the OS installation accessible, so if nothing else, I 
> suppose it was good mac practice.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller
> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 3:47 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I highly doubt you needed to reinstall for that. That's a known issue in 
> Lion, where Voiceover will not speak at the login
> field, even though it's set to. In fact, there are bugs with VO starting on 
> startup in lion in general.
> I've reported them to Apple for investigation, so perhaps they'll be 
> addressed in Mountain Lion.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Keller
> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 2:44 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right
> 
> I don't know yet, I only turned on my computer once since then and it went 
> directly to the desk top, but that doesn't mean
> anything, it only means that it hasn't had time to act weird yet.
> 
> We'll see the next time I shut down and turn it back on.
> 
> Keep your fingers crossed.
> 
> Jenny
> On May 5, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Scott Rumery wrote:
> 
>> The question you need to ask yourself is, did it fix my problem?  I
>> love
> how easy it is to get all back up and running on my Mac.  Much easier than 
> reinstalling Windows.
>> 
>> Scott
>> On May 5, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Jenny Keller wrote:
>> 
>>> I was having problems with my operating system, Lion, popping up with
>>> a
> log in field and no voice over even though it was set up to come on with the 
> log in field, but it was also set to just log in
> without being loged in.
>>> 
>>> Someone told me to reinstall Lion, using command R and holding it
>>> down
> until the computer booted up.
>>> 
>>> Well, I did that, but I'm not sure I did it right.
>>> 
>>> I told it to install Lion new, and it asked me to restart the machine
>>> so
> I did.
>>> 
>>> what was the point of that, it seemed too easy.
>>> 
>>> Did I do something wrong?
>>> 
>>> Jenny
>>> 
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Re: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right

[Jenny Keller]

Is it a bug in Lion that sometimes, it will go to the log in screen and 
sometimes, it will just go to the desktop?

that was the major problem.  

It was getting a little rediculous that I was having to boot my system twice to 
get it to boot up in the desk top like it's supposed to.

all the settings are correct.

Jenny
On May 5, 2012, at 2:46 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I highly doubt you needed to reinstall for that. That's a known issue in
> Lion, where Voiceover will not speak at the login field, even though it's
> set to. In fact, there are bugs with VO starting on startup in lion in
> general.
> I've reported them to Apple for investigation, so perhaps they'll be
> addressed in Mountain Lion.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Keller
> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 2:44 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it
> right
> 
> I don't know yet, I only turned on my computer once since then and it went
> directly to the desk top, but that doesn't mean anything, it only means that
> it hasn't had time to act weird yet.
> 
> We'll see the next time I shut down and turn it back on.
> 
> Keep your fingers crossed.
> 
> Jenny
> On May 5, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Scott Rumery wrote:
> 
>> The question you need to ask yourself is, did it fix my problem?  I love
> how easy it is to get all back up and running on my Mac.  Much easier than
> reinstalling Windows.
>> 
>> Scott
>> On May 5, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Jenny Keller wrote:
>> 
>>> I was having problems with my operating system, Lion, popping up with a
> log in field and no voice over even though it was set up to come on with the
> log in field, but it was also set to just log in without being loged in.
>>> 
>>> Someone told me to reinstall Lion, using command R and holding it down
> until the computer booted up.  
>>> 
>>> Well, I did that, but I'm not sure I did it right.
>>> 
>>> I told it to install Lion new, and it asked me to restart the machine so
> I did.  
>>> 
>>> what was the point of that, it seemed too easy.
>>> 
>>> Did I do something wrong?
>>> 
>>> Jenny
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Re: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right

[Jenny Keller]

It was almost like it just booted up normally.

I didn't know how to do it, so I probably did it wrong.  But o yes, there must 
be a pod cast for that too since my questions are too inconvenient for the 
listers to answer and I need to be spoon fed and am too lazy aparently to look 
it up.

Jenny
On May 5, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Kliphton wrote:

> That depends on how long it took.  I've done it twice, and both times it
> took almost 5 hours.  How long did yours take?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Keller
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right
> 
> I was having problems with my operating system, Lion, popping up with a log
> in field and no voice over even though it was set up to come on with the log
> in field, but it was also set to just log in without being loged in.
> 
> Someone told me to reinstall Lion, using command R and holding it down until
> the computer booted up.  
> 
> Well, I did that, but I'm not sure I did it right.
> 
> I told it to install Lion new, and it asked me to restart the machine so I
> did.  
> 
> what was the point of that, it seemed too easy.
> 
> Did I do something wrong?
> 
> Jenny
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Re: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right

[Scott Howell]

That is interesting Daniel because I have no such issues with Lion at all. I 
always have VO speaking at the login prompt.

On May 5, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I highly doubt you needed to reinstall for that. That's a known issue in
> Lion, where Voiceover will not speak at the login field, even though it's
> set to. In fact, there are bugs with VO starting on startup in lion in
> general.
> I've reported them to Apple for investigation, so perhaps they'll be
> addressed in Mountain Lion.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Keller
> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 2:44 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it
> right
> 
> I don't know yet, I only turned on my computer once since then and it went
> directly to the desk top, but that doesn't mean anything, it only means that
> it hasn't had time to act weird yet.
> 
> We'll see the next time I shut down and turn it back on.
> 
> Keep your fingers crossed.
> 
> Jenny
> On May 5, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Scott Rumery wrote:
> 
>> The question you need to ask yourself is, did it fix my problem?  I love
> how easy it is to get all back up and running on my Mac.  Much easier than
> reinstalling Windows.
>> 
>> Scott
>> On May 5, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Jenny Keller wrote:
>> 
>>> I was having problems with my operating system, Lion, popping up with a
> log in field and no voice over even though it was set up to come on with the
> log in field, but it was also set to just log in without being loged in.
>>> 
>>> Someone told me to reinstall Lion, using command R and holding it down
> until the computer booted up.  
>>> 
>>> Well, I did that, but I'm not sure I did it right.
>>> 
>>> I told it to install Lion new, and it asked me to restart the machine so
> I did.  
>>> 
>>> what was the point of that, it seemed too easy.
>>> 
>>> Did I do something wrong?
>>> 
>>> Jenny
>>> 
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RE: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right

[Daniel Miller]

Oh, don't get me wrong, I believe it's an understatement. But, apple does
learn from things that are buggy in a previous release, for the most part.
I'm also hoping things are fixed in ML, as well as the stupid bug that
prohibits us from accessing the wifi menu in recovery.


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Missy Hoppe
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 2:51 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it
right

LOL! That is an understatement: VO start-up under lion being buggy. A few
months ago, I did a clean install to see if it would help, but as far as I
was concerned, the clean install had way more quirks than my upgrade
install. Thank God for Carbon Copy Cloner; I just restored my original lion
install, and have resigned myself to dealing with VO's quirks. Every time a
lion update is released, I keep hoping they'll fix whatever they broke, but
so far, no dice. I'm a bit nervous about Mountain Lion, but hopefully it
will end up being better than Lion. I guess only time will tell.
I guess the poit is that I agree with Daniel; reinstalling lion to fix that
1 little quirk was probably overkill, but at least Apple has made the OS
installation accessible, so if nothing else, I suppose it was good mac
practice.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 3:47 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it
right

Hi,

I highly doubt you needed to reinstall for that. That's a known issue in
Lion, where Voiceover will not speak at the login field, even though it's
set to. In fact, there are bugs with VO starting on startup in lion in
general.
I've reported them to Apple for investigation, so perhaps they'll be
addressed in Mountain Lion.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Keller
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 2:44 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it
right

I don't know yet, I only turned on my computer once since then and it went
directly to the desk top, but that doesn't mean anything, it only means that
it hasn't had time to act weird yet.

We'll see the next time I shut down and turn it back on.

Keep your fingers crossed.

Jenny
On May 5, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Scott Rumery wrote:

> The question you need to ask yourself is, did it fix my problem?  I 
> love
how easy it is to get all back up and running on my Mac.  Much easier than
reinstalling Windows.
>
> Scott
> On May 5, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Jenny Keller wrote:
>
>> I was having problems with my operating system, Lion, popping up with 
>> a
log in field and no voice over even though it was set up to come on with the
log in field, but it was also set to just log in without being loged in.
>>
>> Someone told me to reinstall Lion, using command R and holding it 
>> down
until the computer booted up.
>>
>> Well, I did that, but I'm not sure I did it right.
>>
>> I told it to install Lion new, and it asked me to restart the machine 
>> so
I did.
>>
>> what was the point of that, it seemed too easy.
>>
>> Did I do something wrong?
>>
>> Jenny
>>
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RE: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right

[Missy Hoppe]

LOL! That is an understatement: VO start-up under lion being buggy. A few 
months ago, I did a clean install to see if it
would help, but as far as I was concerned, the clean install had way more 
quirks than my upgrade install. Thank God for
Carbon Copy Cloner; I just restored my original lion install, and have resigned 
myself to dealing with VO's quirks. Every
time a lion update is released, I keep hoping they'll fix whatever they broke, 
but so far, no dice. I'm a bit nervous about
Mountain Lion, but hopefully it will end up being better than Lion. I guess 
only time will tell.
I guess the poit is that I agree with Daniel; reinstalling lion to fix that 1 
little quirk was probably overkill, but at
least Apple has made the OS installation accessible, so if nothing else, I 
suppose it was good mac practice.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Daniel Miller
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 3:47 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right

Hi,

I highly doubt you needed to reinstall for that. That's a known issue in Lion, 
where Voiceover will not speak at the login
field, even though it's set to. In fact, there are bugs with VO starting on 
startup in lion in general.
I've reported them to Apple for investigation, so perhaps they'll be addressed 
in Mountain Lion.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Keller
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 2:44 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right

I don't know yet, I only turned on my computer once since then and it went 
directly to the desk top, but that doesn't mean
anything, it only means that it hasn't had time to act weird yet.

We'll see the next time I shut down and turn it back on.

Keep your fingers crossed.

Jenny
On May 5, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Scott Rumery wrote:

> The question you need to ask yourself is, did it fix my problem?  I
> love
how easy it is to get all back up and running on my Mac.  Much easier than 
reinstalling Windows.
>
> Scott
> On May 5, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Jenny Keller wrote:
>
>> I was having problems with my operating system, Lion, popping up with
>> a
log in field and no voice over even though it was set up to come on with the 
log in field, but it was also set to just log in
without being loged in.
>>
>> Someone told me to reinstall Lion, using command R and holding it
>> down
until the computer booted up.
>>
>> Well, I did that, but I'm not sure I did it right.
>>
>> I told it to install Lion new, and it asked me to restart the machine
>> so
I did.
>>
>> what was the point of that, it seemed too easy.
>>
>> Did I do something wrong?
>>
>> Jenny
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RE: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right

[Daniel Miller]

Hi,

I highly doubt you needed to reinstall for that. That's a known issue in
Lion, where Voiceover will not speak at the login field, even though it's
set to. In fact, there are bugs with VO starting on startup in lion in
general.
I've reported them to Apple for investigation, so perhaps they'll be
addressed in Mountain Lion.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Keller
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 2:44 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it
right

I don't know yet, I only turned on my computer once since then and it went
directly to the desk top, but that doesn't mean anything, it only means that
it hasn't had time to act weird yet.

We'll see the next time I shut down and turn it back on.

Keep your fingers crossed.

Jenny
On May 5, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Scott Rumery wrote:

> The question you need to ask yourself is, did it fix my problem?  I love
how easy it is to get all back up and running on my Mac.  Much easier than
reinstalling Windows.
> 
> Scott
> On May 5, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Jenny Keller wrote:
> 
>> I was having problems with my operating system, Lion, popping up with a
log in field and no voice over even though it was set up to come on with the
log in field, but it was also set to just log in without being loged in.
>> 
>> Someone told me to reinstall Lion, using command R and holding it down
until the computer booted up.  
>> 
>> Well, I did that, but I'm not sure I did it right.
>> 
>> I told it to install Lion new, and it asked me to restart the machine so
I did.  
>> 
>> what was the point of that, it seemed too easy.
>> 
>> Did I do something wrong?
>> 
>> Jenny
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Re: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right

[Jenny Keller]

I don't know yet, I only turned on my computer once since then and it went 
directly to the desk top, but that doesn't mean anything, it only means that it 
hasn't had time to act weird yet.

We'll see the next time I shut down and turn it back on.

Keep your fingers crossed.

Jenny
On May 5, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Scott Rumery wrote:

> The question you need to ask yourself is, did it fix my problem?  I love how 
> easy it is to get all back up and running on my Mac.  Much easier than 
> reinstalling Windows.
> 
> Scott
> On May 5, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Jenny Keller wrote:
> 
>> I was having problems with my operating system, Lion, popping up with a log 
>> in field and no voice over even though it was set up to come on with the log 
>> in field, but it was also set to just log in without being loged in.
>> 
>> Someone told me to reinstall Lion, using command R and holding it down until 
>> the computer booted up.  
>> 
>> Well, I did that, but I'm not sure I did it right.
>> 
>> I told it to install Lion new, and it asked me to restart the machine so I 
>> did.  
>> 
>> what was the point of that, it seemed too easy.
>> 
>> Did I do something wrong?
>> 
>> Jenny
>> 
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Re: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right

[Ricardo Walker]

Really?

In my experience, this shouldn't take a little more than an hour or so.

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On May 5, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Kliphton  wrote:

> That depends on how long it took.  I've done it twice, and both times it
> took almost 5 hours.  How long did yours take?
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Keller
> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 10:02 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right
> 
> I was having problems with my operating system, Lion, popping up with a log
> in field and no voice over even though it was set up to come on with the log
> in field, but it was also set to just log in without being loged in.
> 
> Someone told me to reinstall Lion, using command R and holding it down until
> the computer booted up.  
> 
> Well, I did that, but I'm not sure I did it right.
> 
> I told it to install Lion new, and it asked me to restart the machine so I
> did.  
> 
> what was the point of that, it seemed too easy.
> 
> Did I do something wrong?
> 
> Jenny
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Re: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right

[Scott Howell]

Surely it could not have taken you five hours to install Lion. That is 
impossible. Maybe to install Lion, set everything up, and install all of your 
apps, but even then something just doesn't add up.


On May 5, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Kliphton wrote:

> That depends on how long it took.  I've done it twice, and both times it
> took almost 5 hours.  How long did yours take?
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Keller
> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 10:02 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right
> 
> I was having problems with my operating system, Lion, popping up with a log
> in field and no voice over even though it was set up to come on with the log
> in field, but it was also set to just log in without being loged in.
> 
> Someone told me to reinstall Lion, using command R and holding it down until
> the computer booted up.  
> 
> Well, I did that, but I'm not sure I did it right.
> 
> I told it to install Lion new, and it asked me to restart the machine so I
> did.  
> 
> what was the point of that, it seemed too easy.
> 
> Did I do something wrong?
> 
> Jenny
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RE: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right

[Kliphton]

That depends on how long it took.  I've done it twice, and both times it
took almost 5 hours.  How long did yours take?

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Keller
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 10:02 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right

I was having problems with my operating system, Lion, popping up with a log
in field and no voice over even though it was set up to come on with the log
in field, but it was also set to just log in without being loged in.

Someone told me to reinstall Lion, using command R and holding it down until
the computer booted up.  

Well, I did that, but I'm not sure I did it right.

I told it to install Lion new, and it asked me to restart the machine so I
did.  

what was the point of that, it seemed too easy.

Did I do something wrong?

Jenny

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Re: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right

[Scott Rumery]

The question you need to ask yourself is, did it fix my problem?  I love how 
easy it is to get all back up and running on my Mac.  Much easier than 
reinstalling Windows.

Scott
On May 5, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Jenny Keller wrote:

> I was having problems with my operating system, Lion, popping up with a log 
> in field and no voice over even though it was set up to come on with the log 
> in field, but it was also set to just log in without being loged in.
> 
> Someone told me to reinstall Lion, using command R and holding it down until 
> the computer booted up.  
> 
> Well, I did that, but I'm not sure I did it right.
> 
> I told it to install Lion new, and it asked me to restart the machine so I 
> did.  
> 
> what was the point of that, it seemed too easy.
> 
> Did I do something wrong?
> 
> Jenny
> 
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Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right

[Jenny Keller]

I was having problems with my operating system, Lion, popping up with a log in 
field and no voice over even though it was set up to come on with the log in 
field, but it was also set to just log in without being loged in.

Someone told me to reinstall Lion, using command R and holding it down until 
the computer booted up.  

Well, I did that, but I'm not sure I did it right.

I told it to install Lion new, and it asked me to restart the machine so I did. 
 

what was the point of that, it seemed too easy.

Did I do something wrong?

Jenny

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