RE: Smart TV

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah the chrome cast ultra is so much nicer than the chrome cast 1.

I couldn’t get my chrome cast to work properly but this new ultra is great.

I did have a somewhat problematic question at setup / config.

The google home app asks you to confirm the number on your tv screen,

I’m stuffed if I know what it said so I took a stab and said yeah it was the 
number on the screen

Would appear I got it correct.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Tuesday, 29 August 2017 2:14 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart TV

Yes shouldn’t be a problem.  All my boxes including Apple TV, Amazon TV and 
Chrome Cast can wake up a Samsung TV via cdmi control data.

On Aug 27, 2017, at 4:40 PM, Jonathan Cohn 
mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:

So sometimes there is a configuration to enable auto-on when Apple TV wakes up? 
Does anybody know if Samsung TV's have this in their options menus. I can 
control volume via HDMI so one would expect that power should also be able to 
be controlled.

Thanks,
Jonathan



On Aug 18, 2017, at 12:34 PM, Scott Granados 
mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Simon, not sure which chrome cast you have but it works great on my Current 
model Samsung and auto switches beautifully.  For example, I can have my TV 
totally powered down and say to google home “play Star Trek on master bedroom 
TV from Netflix” and it automatically powers on the TV and by the time the TV 
boots the show is already streaming.  The chrome cast also supplies 4K.  The 
model I have is called the Ultra not sure if that’s what you’re using.  You may 
have to enable HDMI controls as well although in my set at least they were on 
by default.  Not sure what’s up there.


On Aug 18, 2017, at 4:14 AM, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi ET,

Sorry fo rthe delay.

Ok so over xmas new year this year I spent a few weeks looking into accessible 
tv's here in NZ,

Unlike in the USA UK and austrailia  Samsung have removed the voice guidance 
feature or screen reader from their NZ model devices, at least in the 2016 and 
later models.

I located a 2015 UHD 4K 55inch screen with all and more than I wanted.

I can't say I'm a fan of the in built features such as Netflix and the 
webbrowser but he screen reader is great as it lets me set the device up myself.

As for auto switching
Yeah sure does,

When I press a button on my apple tv Gen 4 remote  the tv switchs on and to the 
HDMI channel the atv is connected to,

My blue ray player does the same thing when I press eject to open the tray and 
put my disk in,

I can't get my chrome cast to do this though, however I don't use it a lot so 
don't worry about ti,

The only real issues I have with the auto switching is when I want to listen to 
music through my ATV  it turns the tv on also

A pain in the a when you don't need a picture or even have one this I didin't 
need to worry about when I had the gen 3 as I used optical to connect to the 
sound system.

Hope this somewhat helps.-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Saturday, 12 August 2017 3:27 AM
To: MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Smart TV

  Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will switch to an 
active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? My current TV is 9 years 
old, might be time to replace it.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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 mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
 our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
 and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
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Re: Smart TV

[Scott Granados]

Yes shouldn’t be a problem.  All my boxes including Apple TV, Amazon TV and 
Chrome Cast can wake up a Samsung TV via cdmi control data.

> On Aug 27, 2017, at 4:40 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> So sometimes there is a configuration to enable auto-on when Apple TV wakes 
> up? Does anybody know if Samsung TV's have this in their options menus. I can 
> control volume via HDMI so one would expect that power should also be able to 
> be controlled.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 18, 2017, at 12:34 PM, Scott Granados > > wrote:
>> 
>> Simon, not sure which chrome cast you have but it works great on my Current 
>> model Samsung and auto switches beautifully.  For example, I can have my TV 
>> totally powered down and say to google home “play Star Trek on master 
>> bedroom TV from Netflix” and it automatically powers on the TV and by the 
>> time the TV boots the show is already streaming.  The chrome cast also 
>> supplies 4K.  The model I have is called the Ultra not sure if that’s what 
>> you’re using.  You may have to enable HDMI controls as well although in my 
>> set at least they were on by default.  Not sure what’s up there.
>> 
>>> On Aug 18, 2017, at 4:14 AM, Simon Fogarty >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi ET,
>>> 
>>> Sorry fo rthe delay.
>>> 
>>> Ok so over xmas new year this year I spent a few weeks looking into 
>>> accessible tv's here in NZ,
>>> 
>>> Unlike in the USA UK and austrailia  Samsung have removed the voice 
>>> guidance feature or screen reader from their NZ model devices, at least in 
>>> the 2016 and later models.
>>> 
>>> I located a 2015 UHD 4K 55inch screen with all and more than I wanted.
>>> 
>>> I can't say I'm a fan of the in built features such as Netflix and the 
>>> webbrowser but he screen reader is great as it lets me set the device up 
>>> myself.
>>> 
>>> As for auto switching 
>>> Yeah sure does,
>>> 
>>> When I press a button on my apple tv Gen 4 remote  the tv switchs on and to 
>>> the HDMI channel the atv is connected to,
>>> 
>>> My blue ray player does the same thing when I press eject to open the tray 
>>> and put my disk in,
>>> 
>>> I can't get my chrome cast to do this though, however I don't use it a lot 
>>> so don't worry about ti,
>>> 
>>> The only real issues I have with the auto switching is when I want to 
>>> listen to music through my ATV  it turns the tv on also 
>>> 
>>> A pain in the a when you don't need a picture or even have one this I 
>>> didin't need to worry about when I had the gen 3 as I used optical to 
>>> connect to the sound system.
>>> 
>>> Hope this somewhat helps.-Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>  
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> ] On Behalf Of E.T.
>>> Sent: Saturday, 12 August 2017 3:27 AM
>>> To: MacVisionaries >> >
>>> Subject: Smart TV
>>> 
>>>   Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will switch to an 
>>> active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? My current TV is 9 
>>> years old, might be time to replace it.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
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RE: Smart TV

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi,

I don’t remember having to set anything up on my tv it was a case of plug / 
connect the apple tv’s to the Samsung tv and now anytime I hit my apple tv’s 
remote the tv comes on to my HDMI channel 2, I’ve got my blueray plugged in to 
HDMI 1 and my new chrome cast ultra in HDMI 4 and all of them start the tv 
automatically when I activate them.

My apple tv 2gen also did this with it’s remote as well.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Monday, 28 August 2017 8:40 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart TV

So sometimes there is a configuration to enable auto-on when Apple TV wakes up? 
Does anybody know if Samsung TV's have this in their options menus. I can 
control volume via HDMI so one would expect that power should also be able to 
be controlled.

Thanks,
Jonathan



On Aug 18, 2017, at 12:34 PM, Scott Granados 
mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Simon, not sure which chrome cast you have but it works great on my Current 
model Samsung and auto switches beautifully.  For example, I can have my TV 
totally powered down and say to google home “play Star Trek on master bedroom 
TV from Netflix” and it automatically powers on the TV and by the time the TV 
boots the show is already streaming.  The chrome cast also supplies 4K.  The 
model I have is called the Ultra not sure if that’s what you’re using.  You may 
have to enable HDMI controls as well although in my set at least they were on 
by default.  Not sure what’s up there.


On Aug 18, 2017, at 4:14 AM, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi ET,

Sorry fo rthe delay.

Ok so over xmas new year this year I spent a few weeks looking into accessible 
tv's here in NZ,

Unlike in the USA UK and austrailia  Samsung have removed the voice guidance 
feature or screen reader from their NZ model devices, at least in the 2016 and 
later models.

I located a 2015 UHD 4K 55inch screen with all and more than I wanted.

I can't say I'm a fan of the in built features such as Netflix and the 
webbrowser but he screen reader is great as it lets me set the device up myself.

As for auto switching
Yeah sure does,

When I press a button on my apple tv Gen 4 remote  the tv switchs on and to the 
HDMI channel the atv is connected to,

My blue ray player does the same thing when I press eject to open the tray and 
put my disk in,

I can't get my chrome cast to do this though, however I don't use it a lot so 
don't worry about ti,

The only real issues I have with the auto switching is when I want to listen to 
music through my ATV  it turns the tv on also

A pain in the a when you don't need a picture or even have one this I didin't 
need to worry about when I had the gen 3 as I used optical to connect to the 
sound system.

Hope this somewhat helps.-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Saturday, 12 August 2017 3:27 AM
To: MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Smart TV

  Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will switch to an 
active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? My current TV is 9 years 
old, might be time to replace it.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 "God for you is where you sweep away all the
 mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
 our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
 and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
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Re: Smart TV

[Jonathan Cohn]

So sometimes there is a configuration to enable auto-on when Apple TV wakes up? 
Does anybody know if Samsung TV's have this in their options menus. I can 
control volume via HDMI so one would expect that power should also be able to 
be controlled.

Thanks,
Jonathan



> On Aug 18, 2017, at 12:34 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Simon, not sure which chrome cast you have but it works great on my Current 
> model Samsung and auto switches beautifully.  For example, I can have my TV 
> totally powered down and say to google home “play Star Trek on master bedroom 
> TV from Netflix” and it automatically powers on the TV and by the time the TV 
> boots the show is already streaming.  The chrome cast also supplies 4K.  The 
> model I have is called the Ultra not sure if that’s what you’re using.  You 
> may have to enable HDMI controls as well although in my set at least they 
> were on by default.  Not sure what’s up there.
> 
>> On Aug 18, 2017, at 4:14 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi ET,
>> 
>> Sorry fo rthe delay.
>> 
>> Ok so over xmas new year this year I spent a few weeks looking into 
>> accessible tv's here in NZ,
>> 
>> Unlike in the USA UK and austrailia  Samsung have removed the voice guidance 
>> feature or screen reader from their NZ model devices, at least in the 2016 
>> and later models.
>> 
>> I located a 2015 UHD 4K 55inch screen with all and more than I wanted.
>> 
>> I can't say I'm a fan of the in built features such as Netflix and the 
>> webbrowser but he screen reader is great as it lets me set the device up 
>> myself.
>> 
>> As for auto switching 
>> Yeah sure does,
>> 
>> When I press a button on my apple tv Gen 4 remote  the tv switchs on and to 
>> the HDMI channel the atv is connected to,
>> 
>> My blue ray player does the same thing when I press eject to open the tray 
>> and put my disk in,
>> 
>> I can't get my chrome cast to do this though, however I don't use it a lot 
>> so don't worry about ti,
>> 
>> The only real issues I have with the auto switching is when I want to listen 
>> to music through my ATV  it turns the tv on also 
>> 
>> A pain in the a when you don't need a picture or even have one this I 
>> didin't need to worry about when I had the gen 3 as I used optical to 
>> connect to the sound system.
>> 
>> Hope this somewhat helps.-Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
>> Sent: Saturday, 12 August 2017 3:27 AM
>> To: MacVisionaries 
>> Subject: Smart TV
>> 
>>   Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will switch to an 
>> active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? My current TV is 9 
>> years old, might be time to replace it.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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RE: Smart TV

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah that's what I have but I can't get it to work correctly 
Just talked my brother out of buying one in the USA, because it's cheaper here 
in nz to buy one.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Saturday, 19 August 2017 4:35 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart TV

Simon, not sure which chrome cast you have but it works great on my Current 
model Samsung and auto switches beautifully.  For example, I can have my TV 
totally powered down and say to google home “play Star Trek on master bedroom 
TV from Netflix” and it automatically powers on the TV and by the time the TV 
boots the show is already streaming.  The chrome cast also supplies 4K.  The 
model I have is called the Ultra not sure if that’s what you’re using.  You may 
have to enable HDMI controls as well although in my set at least they were on 
by default.  Not sure what’s up there.

> On Aug 18, 2017, at 4:14 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi ET,
> 
> Sorry fo rthe delay.
> 
> Ok so over xmas new year this year I spent a few weeks looking into 
> accessible tv's here in NZ,
> 
> Unlike in the USA UK and austrailia  Samsung have removed the voice guidance 
> feature or screen reader from their NZ model devices, at least in the 2016 
> and later models.
> 
> I located a 2015 UHD 4K 55inch screen with all and more than I wanted.
> 
> I can't say I'm a fan of the in built features such as Netflix and the 
> webbrowser but he screen reader is great as it lets me set the device up 
> myself.
> 
> As for auto switching 
> Yeah sure does,
> 
> When I press a button on my apple tv Gen 4 remote  the tv switchs on and to 
> the HDMI channel the atv is connected to,
> 
> My blue ray player does the same thing when I press eject to open the tray 
> and put my disk in,
> 
> I can't get my chrome cast to do this though, however I don't use it a lot so 
> don't worry about ti,
> 
> The only real issues I have with the auto switching is when I want to listen 
> to music through my ATV  it turns the tv on also 
> 
> A pain in the a when you don't need a picture or even have one this I didin't 
> need to worry about when I had the gen 3 as I used optical to connect to the 
> sound system.
> 
> Hope this somewhat helps.-Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
> Sent: Saturday, 12 August 2017 3:27 AM
> To: MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Smart TV
> 
>Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will switch to an 
> active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? My current TV is 9 
> years old, might be time to replace it.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>   "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
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Re: Smart TV

[Scott Granados]

Simon, not sure which chrome cast you have but it works great on my Current 
model Samsung and auto switches beautifully.  For example, I can have my TV 
totally powered down and say to google home “play Star Trek on master bedroom 
TV from Netflix” and it automatically powers on the TV and by the time the TV 
boots the show is already streaming.  The chrome cast also supplies 4K.  The 
model I have is called the Ultra not sure if that’s what you’re using.  You may 
have to enable HDMI controls as well although in my set at least they were on 
by default.  Not sure what’s up there.

> On Aug 18, 2017, at 4:14 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi ET,
> 
> Sorry fo rthe delay.
> 
> Ok so over xmas new year this year I spent a few weeks looking into 
> accessible tv's here in NZ,
> 
> Unlike in the USA UK and austrailia  Samsung have removed the voice guidance 
> feature or screen reader from their NZ model devices, at least in the 2016 
> and later models.
> 
> I located a 2015 UHD 4K 55inch screen with all and more than I wanted.
> 
> I can't say I'm a fan of the in built features such as Netflix and the 
> webbrowser but he screen reader is great as it lets me set the device up 
> myself.
> 
> As for auto switching 
> Yeah sure does,
> 
> When I press a button on my apple tv Gen 4 remote  the tv switchs on and to 
> the HDMI channel the atv is connected to,
> 
> My blue ray player does the same thing when I press eject to open the tray 
> and put my disk in,
> 
> I can't get my chrome cast to do this though, however I don't use it a lot so 
> don't worry about ti,
> 
> The only real issues I have with the auto switching is when I want to listen 
> to music through my ATV  it turns the tv on also 
> 
> A pain in the a when you don't need a picture or even have one this I didin't 
> need to worry about when I had the gen 3 as I used optical to connect to the 
> sound system.
> 
> Hope this somewhat helps.-Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
> Sent: Saturday, 12 August 2017 3:27 AM
> To: MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Smart TV
> 
>Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will switch to an 
> active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? My current TV is 9 
> years old, might be time to replace it.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>   "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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RE: Smart TV

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi ET,

 Sorry fo rthe delay.

 Ok so over xmas new year this year I spent a few weeks looking into accessible 
tv's here in NZ,

 Unlike in the USA UK and austrailia  Samsung have removed the voice guidance 
feature or screen reader from their NZ model devices, at least in the 2016 and 
later models.

 I located a 2015 UHD 4K 55inch screen with all and more than I wanted.

 I can't say I'm a fan of the in built features such as Netflix and the 
webbrowser but he screen reader is great as it lets me set the device up myself.

 As for auto switching 
Yeah sure does,

 When I press a button on my apple tv Gen 4 remote  the tv switchs on and to 
the HDMI channel the atv is connected to,

 My blue ray player does the same thing when I press eject to open the tray and 
put my disk in,

I can't get my chrome cast to do this though, however I don't use it a lot so 
don't worry about ti,

 The only real issues I have with the auto switching is when I want to listen 
to music through my ATV  it turns the tv on also 

A pain in the a when you don't need a picture or even have one this I didin't 
need to worry about when I had the gen 3 as I used optical to connect to the 
sound system.

Hope this somewhat helps.-Original Message-
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Sent: Saturday, 12 August 2017 3:27 AM
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Subject: Smart TV

Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will switch to an 
active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? My current TV is 9 years 
old, might be time to replace it.

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Re: Smart TV

[E.T.]

   I have not found the specs yet on the models that support Voice 
Guide.Do all the smart tv models have it or just the larger screen size 
models? I need to stay at 43 or smaller. I found the 6200 within my 
price range but have to find its specs.


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On 8/13/2017 2:15 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Yes the ones I got were 75 inch curved models.

Very nice great gaming televisions and amazing for movies.  Even the builtin 
audio is very acceptable.



On Aug 11, 2017, at 3:43 PM, E.T.  wrote:

  Boy those for me sure are high end. Many of the ones I quickly looked at are 
too big. 32 inch or 40 would suit me. Will keep looking.

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On 8/11/2017 8:52 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

So 3rd gen doesn’t have apps I don’t think the model I speak of is the one that 
had internal memory and runs actual IOS or TVOS apps.  Just for completeness 
and accuracy.

And yes you most certainly can handle it if the AV control protocol isn’t 
enabled on the box you’re attaching.

As far as models, you probably don’t want the ones I bought because of the 
price but the ones I’m familiar with are the 7500, 8500 and 9500 series which 
are basically different screen technologies with them all being 4K but the 9500 
model hs quantum dots which is a much more accurate generator of pixels.  That 
being said you may not want to go so high end.  What you want to insure is what 
ever Samsung you go with it supports Voice Guide or they also call it 
accessibility features.

Good luck.




On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:47 AM, E.T.  wrote:

 Thanks Scott. Ok that sounds good to me, so if the other device does not 
support the auto switching, it still is doable. Is there a particular model 
that I should look at? My Apple TV 3rd still does what I want and I am starting 
to use the apps more too.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the
mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 8/11/2017 8:40 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

It depends if you have HDMI control messages enabled on both the TV and the end 
device supports it.  I can confirm Samsung does this with the Gen 4 Apple TV 
but not previous versions, Google Chrome Cast works this way as does Comcast, 
charter and FIOS set top boxes.  So it can be hit or miss but your general idea 
is sound. Samsung also provides spoken output so you can change sources very 
easily and not have to memorize or guess what port you’re on.




On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:26 AM, E.T.  wrote:

Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will switch to an 
active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? My current TV is 9 years 
old, might be time to replace it.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
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Re: Smart TV

[Scott Granados]

Prime has really good programming now.  I would definitely set that up if 
you’re already paying for it.

> On Aug 13, 2017, at 6:42 AM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> All those shows make me think I need to really use my Prime. I mean
> for the price prime is pretty epic.
> 
> On 8/13/17, lenron brown  wrote:
>> If I had the cash best believe I would get one of those. Think I am
>> going to see if I can find one of the smaller ones with Samsungs os
>> on.
>> 
>> On 8/13/17, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> Yes the ones I got were 75 inch curved models.
>>> 
>>> Very nice great gaming televisions and amazing for movies.  Even the
>>> builtin
>>> audio is very acceptable.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 11, 2017, at 3:43 PM, E.T.  wrote:
 
  Boy those for me sure are high end. Many of the ones I quickly looked
 at
 are too big. 32 inch or 40 would suit me. Will keep looking.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 "God for you is where you sweep away all the
 mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
 our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
 and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
 E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 8/11/2017 8:52 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> So 3rd gen doesn’t have apps I don’t think the model I speak of is the
> one that had internal memory and runs actual IOS or TVOS apps.  Just
> for
> completeness and accuracy.
> 
> And yes you most certainly can handle it if the AV control protocol
> isn’t
> enabled on the box you’re attaching.
> 
> As far as models, you probably don’t want the ones I bought because of
> the price but the ones I’m familiar with are the 7500, 8500 and 9500
> series which are basically different screen technologies with them all
> being 4K but the 9500 model hs quantum dots which is a much more
> accurate
> generator of pixels.  That being said you may not want to go so high
> end.
> What you want to insure is what ever Samsung you go with it supports
> Voice Guide or they also call it accessibility features.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:47 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Scott. Ok that sounds good to me, so if the other device does
>> not support the auto switching, it still is doable. Is there a
>> particular model that I should look at? My Apple TV 3rd still does
>> what
>> I want and I am starting to use the apps more too.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 8/11/2017 8:40 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> It depends if you have HDMI control messages enabled on both the TV
>>> and
>>> the end device supports it.  I can confirm Samsung does this with the
>>> Gen 4 Apple TV but not previous versions, Google Chrome Cast works
>>> this
>>> way as does Comcast, charter and FIOS set top boxes.  So it can be
>>> hit
>>> or miss but your general idea is sound. Samsung also provides spoken
>>> output so you can change sources very easily and not have to memorize
>>> or guess what port you’re on.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:26 AM, E.T. 
 wrote:
 
 Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will switch
 to
 an active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? My current
 TV
 is 9 years old, might be time to replace it.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 "God for you is where you sweep away all the
 mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
 our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
 and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
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Re: Smart TV

[lenron brown]

All those shows make me think I need to really use my Prime. I mean
for the price prime is pretty epic.

On 8/13/17, lenron brown  wrote:
> If I had the cash best believe I would get one of those. Think I am
> going to see if I can find one of the smaller ones with Samsungs os
> on.
>
> On 8/13/17, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> Yes the ones I got were 75 inch curved models.
>>
>> Very nice great gaming televisions and amazing for movies.  Even the
>> builtin
>> audio is very acceptable.
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 3:43 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>>
>>>   Boy those for me sure are high end. Many of the ones I quickly looked
>>> at
>>> are too big. 32 inch or 40 would suit me. Will keep looking.
>>>
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>
>>> On 8/11/2017 8:52 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 So 3rd gen doesn’t have apps I don’t think the model I speak of is the
 one that had internal memory and runs actual IOS or TVOS apps.  Just
 for
 completeness and accuracy.

 And yes you most certainly can handle it if the AV control protocol
 isn’t
 enabled on the box you’re attaching.

 As far as models, you probably don’t want the ones I bought because of
 the price but the ones I’m familiar with are the 7500, 8500 and 9500
 series which are basically different screen technologies with them all
 being 4K but the 9500 model hs quantum dots which is a much more
 accurate
 generator of pixels.  That being said you may not want to go so high
 end.
  What you want to insure is what ever Samsung you go with it supports
 Voice Guide or they also call it accessibility features.

 Good luck.



> On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:47 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>
>  Thanks Scott. Ok that sounds good to me, so if the other device does
> not support the auto switching, it still is doable. Is there a
> particular model that I should look at? My Apple TV 3rd still does
> what
> I want and I am starting to use the apps more too.
>
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>
> On 8/11/2017 8:40 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> It depends if you have HDMI control messages enabled on both the TV
>> and
>> the end device supports it.  I can confirm Samsung does this with the
>> Gen 4 Apple TV but not previous versions, Google Chrome Cast works
>> this
>> way as does Comcast, charter and FIOS set top boxes.  So it can be
>> hit
>> or miss but your general idea is sound. Samsung also provides spoken
>> output so you can change sources very easily and not have to memorize
>> or guess what port you’re on.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:26 AM, E.T. 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will switch
>>> to
>>> an active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? My current
>>> TV
>>> is 9 years old, might be time to replace it.
>>>
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
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Re: Smart TV

[lenron brown]

If I had the cash best believe I would get one of those. Think I am
going to see if I can find one of the smaller ones with Samsungs os
on.

On 8/13/17, Scott Granados  wrote:
> Yes the ones I got were 75 inch curved models.
>
> Very nice great gaming televisions and amazing for movies.  Even the builtin
> audio is very acceptable.
>
>
>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 3:43 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>
>>   Boy those for me sure are high end. Many of the ones I quickly looked at
>> are too big. 32 inch or 40 would suit me. Will keep looking.
>>
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>
>> On 8/11/2017 8:52 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> So 3rd gen doesn’t have apps I don’t think the model I speak of is the
>>> one that had internal memory and runs actual IOS or TVOS apps.  Just for
>>> completeness and accuracy.
>>>
>>> And yes you most certainly can handle it if the AV control protocol isn’t
>>> enabled on the box you’re attaching.
>>>
>>> As far as models, you probably don’t want the ones I bought because of
>>> the price but the ones I’m familiar with are the 7500, 8500 and 9500
>>> series which are basically different screen technologies with them all
>>> being 4K but the 9500 model hs quantum dots which is a much more accurate
>>> generator of pixels.  That being said you may not want to go so high end.
>>>  What you want to insure is what ever Samsung you go with it supports
>>> Voice Guide or they also call it accessibility features.
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>>
>>>
>>>
 On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:47 AM, E.T.  wrote:

  Thanks Scott. Ok that sounds good to me, so if the other device does
 not support the auto switching, it still is doable. Is there a
 particular model that I should look at? My Apple TV 3rd still does what
 I want and I am starting to use the apps more too.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 "God for you is where you sweep away all the
 mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
 our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
 and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
 E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

 On 8/11/2017 8:40 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> It depends if you have HDMI control messages enabled on both the TV and
> the end device supports it.  I can confirm Samsung does this with the
> Gen 4 Apple TV but not previous versions, Google Chrome Cast works this
> way as does Comcast, charter and FIOS set top boxes.  So it can be hit
> or miss but your general idea is sound. Samsung also provides spoken
> output so you can change sources very easily and not have to memorize
> or guess what port you’re on.
>
>
>
>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:26 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>>
>> Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will switch to
>> an active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? My current TV
>> is 9 years old, might be time to replace it.
>>
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>
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Re: Smart TV

[Scott Granados]

Yes the ones I got were 75 inch curved models.

Very nice great gaming televisions and amazing for movies.  Even the builtin 
audio is very acceptable.


> On Aug 11, 2017, at 3:43 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Boy those for me sure are high end. Many of the ones I quickly looked at 
> are too big. 32 inch or 40 would suit me. Will keep looking.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 8/11/2017 8:52 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> So 3rd gen doesn’t have apps I don’t think the model I speak of is the one 
>> that had internal memory and runs actual IOS or TVOS apps.  Just for 
>> completeness and accuracy.
>> 
>> And yes you most certainly can handle it if the AV control protocol isn’t 
>> enabled on the box you’re attaching.
>> 
>> As far as models, you probably don’t want the ones I bought because of the 
>> price but the ones I’m familiar with are the 7500, 8500 and 9500 series 
>> which are basically different screen technologies with them all being 4K but 
>> the 9500 model hs quantum dots which is a much more accurate generator of 
>> pixels.  That being said you may not want to go so high end.  What you want 
>> to insure is what ever Samsung you go with it supports Voice Guide or they 
>> also call it accessibility features.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:47 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Thanks Scott. Ok that sounds good to me, so if the other device does not 
>>> support the auto switching, it still is doable. Is there a particular model 
>>> that I should look at? My Apple TV 3rd still does what I want and I am 
>>> starting to use the apps more too.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 8/11/2017 8:40 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 It depends if you have HDMI control messages enabled on both the TV and 
 the end device supports it.  I can confirm Samsung does this with the Gen 
 4 Apple TV but not previous versions, Google Chrome Cast works this way as 
 does Comcast, charter and FIOS set top boxes.  So it can be hit or miss 
 but your general idea is sound. Samsung also provides spoken output so you 
 can change sources very easily and not have to memorize or guess what port 
 you’re on.
 
 
 
> On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:26 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will switch to an 
> active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? My current TV is 9 
> years old, might be time to replace it.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
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Re: Smart TV

[Scott Granados]

Gary, Bosh is a great detective series with a main character named Hary Bosh.  
It’s very very gritty and rough around the edges but that adds to the 
attraction.  Big show with actual detectives and police officers do to the 
accuracy.  There’s been 3 seasons already and I suggest you binge them all.  
The Grand Tour is a show by the 3 guys from Top Gear, Richard Hamond, 
Jeremy Clarkson and James May.  After Jeremy got fired from Top Gear Amazon 
came along and funded them and they put out a new show which has the same 
chemistry and great humor that Top Gear did.  I think both shows have a 5 star 
rating, they definitely do with me.  There’s a lot on there though that’s 
great.  Man in the High Castle, Sneaky Pete, a bunch of good stuff.  Definitely 
check out that prime content.
  

> On Aug 11, 2017, at 2:30 PM, gary-melconian  wrote:
> 
> What sho is that . I have not sseen that  one on amazon prime. Maybe I don’t 
> know about it.  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 10:10 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart TV
> 
> Ah Mary so you see what I’m saying about amazon TV.  I have the Fire TV and 
> it also uses voice view and I imagine is quite like what they include in the 
> full blown TV sets but having not used one I’m not sure.  Either way I love 
> Fire TV and voice view as well.  Not to mention I just like that prime 
> content.
> 
> Bosh and the Grand Tour totally got me hooked.
> 
>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 12:12 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes. Pressing a button on the remote for the device that you want to switch 
>> to switches it there. It will even turn the TV on if the TV is off. I have 
>> DirecTV, and Amazon fire stick, and fourth generation Apple TV. I can't 
>> speak to the third generation one. Also, it seems to me that this ability to 
>> do this switching when you punch a button on the remote started happening 
>> after a recent firmware update. Why that should be, I haven't a clue. I will 
>> have to get the model number for you, as I don't remember it. And my sided 
>> partner is still sleeping. I am Magine my TV was on the opposite end of the 
>> Samsung spectrum from Scott. It is not 4K. And I think it's only a 32 inch 
>> screen. I do have a nice sound bar for it. I got it on sale at Best Buy 
>> sometime around the holidays. Quite honestly, if I were going to buy a TV 
>> now, I would want to know a lot more about the new Amazon TV set. I'm really 
>> impressed with the work that they're doing over there with voiceview. I 
>> think it has the best sound, and is the most flexible. But I don't know 
>> about the capability of the actual TV to do the thing you want to do. If 
>> That worked, and I were buying a TV now, I would not hesitate to get the 
>> Amazon one.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:51 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary,
>>> Do you have the model number? With the Apple TV, if you want to switch back 
>>> to it, what triggers that? Pressing a button on the remote?
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, 
>>> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off 
>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>>> On 8/11/2017 8:42 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have a Samsung smart TV which I bought at the end of last year. It does 
>>>> what you are saying you would like yours to do. I can't swear that they 
>>>> all do it. Mine has three HDMI inputs, all full. And if I start doing 
>>>> something on one of the devices that's plugged into one of the HDMI ports, 
>>>> it switches there.
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:26 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will switch to an 
>>>>> active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? My current TV is 9 
>>>>> years old, might be time to replace it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the 
>>>>> world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your 
>>>>> mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan

Re: Smart TV

[E.T.]

   That switcher might be useful. Since my TV is so old though, I will 
see about a new one. I am also considering disconnecting the DVD units 
so would only have the Apple TV anyway.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 8/11/2017 8:19 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote:

The original question was about auto switching HDMI inputs. If that's
all you're missing you might want to consider and external switcher. I
got a unit similar to this one from Sewell for our family home
entertainment setup:

https://sewelldirect.com/switchdeck-hdmi-switch-by-sewell-3x1-distribution-amplifier-4k-at-60hz-3d-hdcp-22-444-chroma-


I have both my Mac mini and a bluray player connected and it
automatically switches to the highest numbered active input. So the Mac
is on port one, which means that by default it is usually sent to the
display. The BluRay is on port 2 so when I turn it on the HDMI is
automatically switched to that. After we're done watching a movie or the
like I turn the BluRay player off and it switches back to the Mac. I
have a slightly different unit than the link above because I needed one
that splits out the audio to a separate TOSlink cable for my ancient
Denon sound system that predates HDMI.

CB

On 8/11/17 3:40 PM, E.T. wrote:

Thanks Mary. Did not find the specific 5500 on Amazon but I am not in
a hurry. This window shopping will keep my mind off certain world
events. Too many models, even 720p which I did not expect to see.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 8/11/2017 9:12 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

Yes. Pressing a button on the remote for the device that you want to
switch to switches it there. It will even turn the TV on if the TV is
off. I have DirecTV, and Amazon fire stick, and fourth generation
Apple TV. I can't speak to the third generation one. Also, it seems
to me that this ability to do this switching when you punch a button
on the remote started happening after a recent firmware update. Why
that should be, I haven't a clue. I will have to get the model number
for you, as I don't remember it. And my sided partner is still
sleeping. I am Magine my TV was on the opposite end of the Samsung
spectrum from Scott. It is not 4K. And I think it's only a 32 inch
screen. I do have a nice sound bar for it. I got it on sale at Best
Buy sometime around the holidays. Quite honestly, if I were going to
buy a TV now, I would want to know a lot more about the new Amazon TV
set. I'm really impressed with the work that they're doing over there
with voiceview. I think it has the best sound, and is the most
flexible. But I don't know about the capability of the actual TV to
do the thing you want to do. If That worked, and I were buying a TV
now, I would not hesitate to get the Amazon one.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:51 AM, E.T.  wrote:

Mary,
  Do you have the model number? With the Apple TV, if you want to
switch back to it, what triggers that? Pressing a button on the remote?

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 "God for you is where you sweep away all the
 mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
 our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
 and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com


On 8/11/2017 8:42 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

I have a Samsung smart TV which I bought at the end of last year.
It does what you are saying you would like yours to do. I can't
swear that they all do it. Mine has three HDMI inputs, all full.
And if I start doing something on one of the devices that's plugged
into one of the HDMI ports, it switches there.
Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:26 AM, E.T.  wrote:

 Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will
switch to an active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand?
My current TV is 9 years old, might be time to replace it.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the
mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

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Re: Smart TV

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

I don't have the TV, but I understand that the new Amazon element units
support accessible HDMI port switching.

hth

Janina

Scott Granados writes:
> It depends if you have HDMI control messages enabled on both the TV and the 
> end device supports it.  I can confirm Samsung does this with the Gen 4 Apple 
> TV but not previous versions, Google Chrome Cast works this way as does 
> Comcast, charter and FIOS set top boxes.  So it can be hit or miss but your 
> general idea is sound. Samsung also provides spoken output so you can change 
> sources very easily and not have to memorize or guess what port you’re on.
> 
> 
> 
> > On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:26 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> > 
> >   Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will switch to an 
> > active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? My current TV is 9 
> > years old, might be time to replace it.
> > 
> > From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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Re: Smart TV

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

The original question was about auto switching HDMI inputs. If that's 
all you're missing you might want to consider and external switcher. I 
got a unit similar to this one from Sewell for our family home 
entertainment setup:


https://sewelldirect.com/switchdeck-hdmi-switch-by-sewell-3x1-distribution-amplifier-4k-at-60hz-3d-hdcp-22-444-chroma-

I have both my Mac mini and a bluray player connected and it 
automatically switches to the highest numbered active input. So the Mac 
is on port one, which means that by default it is usually sent to the 
display. The BluRay is on port 2 so when I turn it on the HDMI is 
automatically switched to that. After we're done watching a movie or the 
like I turn the BluRay player off and it switches back to the Mac. I 
have a slightly different unit than the link above because I needed one 
that splits out the audio to a separate TOSlink cable for my ancient 
Denon sound system that predates HDMI.


CB

On 8/11/17 3:40 PM, E.T. wrote:
Thanks Mary. Did not find the specific 5500 on Amazon but I am not in 
a hurry. This window shopping will keep my mind off certain world 
events. Too many models, even 720p which I did not expect to see.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 8/11/2017 9:12 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
Yes. Pressing a button on the remote for the device that you want to 
switch to switches it there. It will even turn the TV on if the TV is 
off. I have DirecTV, and Amazon fire stick, and fourth generation 
Apple TV. I can't speak to the third generation one. Also, it seems 
to me that this ability to do this switching when you punch a button 
on the remote started happening after a recent firmware update. Why 
that should be, I haven't a clue. I will have to get the model number 
for you, as I don't remember it. And my sided partner is still 
sleeping. I am Magine my TV was on the opposite end of the Samsung 
spectrum from Scott. It is not 4K. And I think it's only a 32 inch 
screen. I do have a nice sound bar for it. I got it on sale at Best 
Buy sometime around the holidays. Quite honestly, if I were going to 
buy a TV now, I would want to know a lot more about the new Amazon TV 
set. I'm really impressed with the work that they're doing over there 
with voiceview. I think it has the best sound, and is the most 
flexible. But I don't know about the capability of the actual TV to 
do the thing you want to do. If That worked, and I were buying a TV 
now, I would not hesitate to get the Amazon one.


Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:51 AM, E.T.  wrote:

Mary,
  Do you have the model number? With the Apple TV, if you want to 
switch back to it, what triggers that? Pressing a button on the remote?


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 "God for you is where you sweep away all the
 mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
 our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
 and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com


On 8/11/2017 8:42 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

I have a Samsung smart TV which I bought at the end of last year. 
It does what you are saying you would like yours to do. I can't 
swear that they all do it. Mine has three HDMI inputs, all full. 
And if I start doing something on one of the devices that's plugged 
into one of the HDMI ports, it switches there.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:26 AM, E.T.  wrote:

 Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will 
switch to an active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? 
My current TV is 9 years old, might be time to replace it.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the
mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

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Re: Smart TV and PBS

[E.T.]

Jonathan,
   If I need to watch that premium content, I am certain I can do that 
$60 a year.


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  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
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E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 8/11/2017 9:27 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

ET,

From what my wife says, the premium content allows you to view most
content that PBS has recently produced while the standard level lets you
see the two most recent shows.  In the DC area contributing $60 to the
station on an annual basis provides you with the premium level. While
HBO is between $120 and $180 so all in all not that bad a deal.

Best Wishes,

Jonathan


On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 12:01 PM E.T. mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:

At the moment, the built in apps are sufficient. I hid the majority
of them because I do not want to be saddled with multiple subscriptions.
I was disappointed to find out this week that even PBS wants you to be a
"sustaining member" to access their premium content. Sad.

Anyway, I will be window shopping and add to my wish list.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
   "God for you is where you sweep away all the
   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com 

On 8/11/2017 8:52 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> So 3rd gen doesn’t have apps I don’t think the model I speak of is
the one that had internal memory and runs actual IOS or TVOS apps.
Just for completeness and accuracy.
>
> And yes you most certainly can handle it if the AV control
protocol isn’t enabled on the box you’re attaching.
>
> As far as models, you probably don’t want the ones I bought
because of the price but the ones I’m familiar with are the 7500,
8500 and 9500 series which are basically different screen
technologies with them all being 4K but the 9500 model hs quantum
dots which is a much more accurate generator of pixels.  That being
said you may not want to go so high end.  What you want to insure is
what ever Samsung you go with it supports Voice Guide or they also
call it accessibility features.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
>
>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:47 AM, E.T. mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>
>>   Thanks Scott. Ok that sounds good to me, so if the other device
does not support the auto switching, it still is doable. Is there a
particular model that I should look at? My Apple TV 3rd still does
what I want and I am starting to use the apps more too.
>>
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>
>> On 8/11/2017 8:40 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> It depends if you have HDMI control messages enabled on both the
TV and the end device supports it.  I can confirm Samsung does this
with the Gen 4 Apple TV but not previous versions, Google Chrome
Cast works this way as does Comcast, charter and FIOS set top
boxes.  So it can be hit or miss but your general idea is sound.
Samsung also provides spoken output so you can change sources very
easily and not have to memorize or guess what port you’re on.
>>>
>>>
>>>
 On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:26 AM, E.T. mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:

  Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will
switch to an active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand?
My current TV is 9 years old, might be time to replace it.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 "God for you is where you sweep away all the
 mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
 our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
 and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
 E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com


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Re: Smart TV

[E.T.]

   Boy those for me sure are high end. Many of the ones I quickly 
looked at are too big. 32 inch or 40 would suit me. Will keep looking.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 8/11/2017 8:52 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

So 3rd gen doesn’t have apps I don’t think the model I speak of is the one that 
had internal memory and runs actual IOS or TVOS apps.  Just for completeness 
and accuracy.

And yes you most certainly can handle it if the AV control protocol isn’t 
enabled on the box you’re attaching.

As far as models, you probably don’t want the ones I bought because of the 
price but the ones I’m familiar with are the 7500, 8500 and 9500 series which 
are basically different screen technologies with them all being 4K but the 9500 
model hs quantum dots which is a much more accurate generator of pixels.  That 
being said you may not want to go so high end.  What you want to insure is what 
ever Samsung you go with it supports Voice Guide or they also call it 
accessibility features.

Good luck.




On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:47 AM, E.T.  wrote:

  Thanks Scott. Ok that sounds good to me, so if the other device does not 
support the auto switching, it still is doable. Is there a particular model 
that I should look at? My Apple TV 3rd still does what I want and I am starting 
to use the apps more too.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 "God for you is where you sweep away all the
 mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
 our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
 and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 8/11/2017 8:40 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

It depends if you have HDMI control messages enabled on both the TV and the end 
device supports it.  I can confirm Samsung does this with the Gen 4 Apple TV 
but not previous versions, Google Chrome Cast works this way as does Comcast, 
charter and FIOS set top boxes.  So it can be hit or miss but your general idea 
is sound. Samsung also provides spoken output so you can change sources very 
easily and not have to memorize or guess what port you’re on.




On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:26 AM, E.T.  wrote:

 Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will switch to an 
active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? My current TV is 9 years 
old, might be time to replace it.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
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Re: Smart TV

[E.T.]

   Thanks Mary. Did not find the specific 5500 on Amazon but I am not 
in a hurry. This window shopping will keep my mind off certain world 
events. Too many models, even 720p which I did not expect to see.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 8/11/2017 9:12 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

Yes. Pressing a button on the remote for the device that you want to switch to 
switches it there. It will even turn the TV on if the TV is off. I have 
DirecTV, and Amazon fire stick, and fourth generation Apple TV. I can't speak 
to the third generation one. Also, it seems to me that this ability to do this 
switching when you punch a button on the remote started happening after a 
recent firmware update. Why that should be, I haven't a clue. I will have to 
get the model number for you, as I don't remember it. And my sided partner is 
still sleeping. I am Magine my TV was on the opposite end of the Samsung 
spectrum from Scott. It is not 4K. And I think it's only a 32 inch screen. I do 
have a nice sound bar for it. I got it on sale at Best Buy sometime around the 
holidays. Quite honestly, if I were going to buy a TV now, I would want to know 
a lot more about the new Amazon TV set. I'm really impressed with the work that 
they're doing over there with voiceview. I think it has the best sound, and is 
the most flexible. But I don't know about the capability of the actual TV to do 
the thing you want to do. If That worked, and I were buying a TV now, I would 
not hesitate to get the Amazon one.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:51 AM, E.T.  wrote:

Mary,
  Do you have the model number? With the Apple TV, if you want to switch back 
to it, what triggers that? Pressing a button on the remote?

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 "God for you is where you sweep away all the
 mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
 our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
 and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com


On 8/11/2017 8:42 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

I have a Samsung smart TV which I bought at the end of last year. It does what 
you are saying you would like yours to do. I can't swear that they all do it. 
Mine has three HDMI inputs, all full. And if I start doing something on one of 
the devices that's plugged into one of the HDMI ports, it switches there.
Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:26 AM, E.T.  wrote:

 Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will switch to an 
active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? My current TV is 9 years 
old, might be time to replace it.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the
mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

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RE: Smart TV

[gary-melconian]

Scott ar  you talking about me. I  have what your talking about but I am not on 
direct tv unfortunately. Direct tv and the package that I have with giga  power 
 gigabit  connection would have ben a really pricy proposition so I just did 
the cord cutting approach got all the channels I could off the other providers 
like you tube tv, hoolu tv, sling, and sony has a package and I got all the 
channels that  I wanted in an ala cart bundle with out having to pay what 
direct tv and the uverse giga power  giga bit connection bundle would have cost 
me. I got all this for under $300  which if I did the giga power bundle with 
direct tv iwas looking north of $550 with everything a month .at this point 
aht was not wfor me but just letting you thatthese hight band width connection 
and all the tv that you can stomach is going ot cost you a pricy bundle as 
well.  

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 10:06 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart TV

That’s where you need to find someone generous who will give you his provider 
credentials to light up your applications.  Say someone with a gig of access 
and the ultimate TV + Sports package with every channel enabled.;)


> On Aug 11, 2017, at 12:00 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   At the moment, the built in apps are sufficient. I hid the majority of them 
> because I do not want to be saddled with multiple subscriptions. I was 
> disappointed to find out this week that even PBS wants you to be a 
> "sustaining member" to access their premium content. Sad.
> 
>   Anyway, I will be window shopping and add to my wish list.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the  mysteries of the world, 
> all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off  
> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 8/11/2017 8:52 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> So 3rd gen doesn’t have apps I don’t think the model I speak of is the one 
>> that had internal memory and runs actual IOS or TVOS apps.  Just for 
>> completeness and accuracy.
>> 
>> And yes you most certainly can handle it if the AV control protocol isn’t 
>> enabled on the box you’re attaching.
>> 
>> As far as models, you probably don’t want the ones I bought because of the 
>> price but the ones I’m familiar with are the 7500, 8500 and 9500 series 
>> which are basically different screen technologies with them all being 4K but 
>> the 9500 model hs quantum dots which is a much more accurate generator of 
>> pixels.  That being said you may not want to go so high end.  What you want 
>> to insure is what ever Samsung you go with it supports Voice Guide or they 
>> also call it accessibility features.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:47 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Thanks Scott. Ok that sounds good to me, so if the other device does not 
>>> support the auto switching, it still is doable. Is there a particular model 
>>> that I should look at? My Apple TV 3rd still does what I want and I am 
>>> starting to use the apps more too.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, 
>>> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind 
>>> off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 8/11/2017 8:40 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>> It depends if you have HDMI control messages enabled on both the TV and 
>>>> the end device supports it.  I can confirm Samsung does this with the Gen 
>>>> 4 Apple TV but not previous versions, Google Chrome Cast works this way as 
>>>> does Comcast, charter and FIOS set top boxes.  So it can be hit or miss 
>>>> but your general idea is sound. Samsung also provides spoken output so you 
>>>> can change sources very easily and not have to memorize or guess what port 
>>>> you’re on.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:26 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will switch to an 
>>>>> active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? My current TV is 9 
>>>>> years old, might be time to replace it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the 
>>

RE: Smart TV

[gary-melconian]

What sho is that . I have not sseen that  one on amazon prime. Maybe I don’t 
know about it.  

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 10:10 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart TV

Ah Mary so you see what I’m saying about amazon TV.  I have the Fire TV and it 
also uses voice view and I imagine is quite like what they include in the full 
blown TV sets but having not used one I’m not sure.  Either way I love Fire TV 
and voice view as well.  Not to mention I just like that prime content.

Bosh and the Grand Tour totally got me hooked.

> On Aug 11, 2017, at 12:12 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Yes. Pressing a button on the remote for the device that you want to switch 
> to switches it there. It will even turn the TV on if the TV is off. I have 
> DirecTV, and Amazon fire stick, and fourth generation Apple TV. I can't speak 
> to the third generation one. Also, it seems to me that this ability to do 
> this switching when you punch a button on the remote started happening after 
> a recent firmware update. Why that should be, I haven't a clue. I will have 
> to get the model number for you, as I don't remember it. And my sided partner 
> is still sleeping. I am Magine my TV was on the opposite end of the Samsung 
> spectrum from Scott. It is not 4K. And I think it's only a 32 inch screen. I 
> do have a nice sound bar for it. I got it on sale at Best Buy sometime around 
> the holidays. Quite honestly, if I were going to buy a TV now, I would want 
> to know a lot more about the new Amazon TV set. I'm really impressed with the 
> work that they're doing over there with voiceview. I think it has the best 
> sound, and is the most flexible. But I don't know about the capability of the 
> actual TV to do the thing you want to do. If That worked, and I were buying a 
> TV now, I would not hesitate to get the Amazon one.
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:51 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>>  Do you have the model number? With the Apple TV, if you want to switch back 
>> to it, what triggers that? Pressing a button on the remote?
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, 
>> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off 
>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On 8/11/2017 8:42 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a Samsung smart TV which I bought at the end of last year. It does 
>>> what you are saying you would like yours to do. I can't swear that they all 
>>> do it. Mine has three HDMI inputs, all full. And if I start doing something 
>>> on one of the devices that's plugged into one of the HDMI ports, it 
>>> switches there.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:26 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will switch to an 
>>>> active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? My current TV is 9 
>>>> years old, might be time to replace it.
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the 
>>>> world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your 
>>>> mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>> 
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Re: Smart TV

[Scott Granados]

Ah Mary so you see what I’m saying about amazon TV.  I have the Fire TV and it 
also uses voice view and I imagine is quite like what they include in the full 
blown TV sets but having not used one I’m not sure.  Either way I love Fire TV 
and voice view as well.  Not to mention I just like that prime content.

Bosh and the Grand Tour totally got me hooked.

> On Aug 11, 2017, at 12:12 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Yes. Pressing a button on the remote for the device that you want to switch 
> to switches it there. It will even turn the TV on if the TV is off. I have 
> DirecTV, and Amazon fire stick, and fourth generation Apple TV. I can't speak 
> to the third generation one. Also, it seems to me that this ability to do 
> this switching when you punch a button on the remote started happening after 
> a recent firmware update. Why that should be, I haven't a clue. I will have 
> to get the model number for you, as I don't remember it. And my sided partner 
> is still sleeping. I am Magine my TV was on the opposite end of the Samsung 
> spectrum from Scott. It is not 4K. And I think it's only a 32 inch screen. I 
> do have a nice sound bar for it. I got it on sale at Best Buy sometime around 
> the holidays. Quite honestly, if I were going to buy a TV now, I would want 
> to know a lot more about the new Amazon TV set. I'm really impressed with the 
> work that they're doing over there with voiceview. I think it has the best 
> sound, and is the most flexible. But I don't know about the capability of the 
> actual TV to do the thing you want to do. If That worked, and I were buying a 
> TV now, I would not hesitate to get the Amazon one.
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:51 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>>  Do you have the model number? With the Apple TV, if you want to switch back 
>> to it, what triggers that? Pressing a button on the remote?
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On 8/11/2017 8:42 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a Samsung smart TV which I bought at the end of last year. It does 
>>> what you are saying you would like yours to do. I can't swear that they all 
>>> do it. Mine has three HDMI inputs, all full. And if I start doing something 
>>> on one of the devices that's plugged into one of the HDMI ports, it 
>>> switches there.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:26 AM, E.T.  wrote:
 
 Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will switch to an 
 active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? My current TV is 9 
 years old, might be time to replace it.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 "God for you is where you sweep away all the
 mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
 our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
 and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
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Re: Smart TV

[Scott Granados]

That’s where you need to find someone generous who will give you his provider 
credentials to light up your applications.  Say someone with a gig of access 
and the ultimate TV + Sports package with every channel enabled.;)


> On Aug 11, 2017, at 12:00 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   At the moment, the built in apps are sufficient. I hid the majority of them 
> because I do not want to be saddled with multiple subscriptions. I was 
> disappointed to find out this week that even PBS wants you to be a 
> "sustaining member" to access their premium content. Sad.
> 
>   Anyway, I will be window shopping and add to my wish list.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 8/11/2017 8:52 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> So 3rd gen doesn’t have apps I don’t think the model I speak of is the one 
>> that had internal memory and runs actual IOS or TVOS apps.  Just for 
>> completeness and accuracy.
>> 
>> And yes you most certainly can handle it if the AV control protocol isn’t 
>> enabled on the box you’re attaching.
>> 
>> As far as models, you probably don’t want the ones I bought because of the 
>> price but the ones I’m familiar with are the 7500, 8500 and 9500 series 
>> which are basically different screen technologies with them all being 4K but 
>> the 9500 model hs quantum dots which is a much more accurate generator of 
>> pixels.  That being said you may not want to go so high end.  What you want 
>> to insure is what ever Samsung you go with it supports Voice Guide or they 
>> also call it accessibility features.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:47 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Thanks Scott. Ok that sounds good to me, so if the other device does not 
>>> support the auto switching, it still is doable. Is there a particular model 
>>> that I should look at? My Apple TV 3rd still does what I want and I am 
>>> starting to use the apps more too.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 8/11/2017 8:40 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 It depends if you have HDMI control messages enabled on both the TV and 
 the end device supports it.  I can confirm Samsung does this with the Gen 
 4 Apple TV but not previous versions, Google Chrome Cast works this way as 
 does Comcast, charter and FIOS set top boxes.  So it can be hit or miss 
 but your general idea is sound. Samsung also provides spoken output so you 
 can change sources very easily and not have to memorize or guess what port 
 you’re on.
 
 
 
> On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:26 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will switch to an 
> active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? My current TV is 9 
> years old, might be time to replace it.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
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Re: Smart TV and PBS

[Jonathan Cohn]

ET,

>From what my wife says, the premium content allows you to view most content
that PBS has recently produced while the standard level lets you see the
two most recent shows.  In the DC area contributing $60 to the station on
an annual basis provides you with the premium level. While HBO is between
$120 and $180 so all in all not that bad a deal.

Best Wishes,

Jonathan


On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 12:01 PM E.T.  wrote:

> At the moment, the built in apps are sufficient. I hid the majority
> of them because I do not want to be saddled with multiple subscriptions.
> I was disappointed to find out this week that even PBS wants you to be a
> "sustaining member" to access their premium content. Sad.
>
> Anyway, I will be window shopping and add to my wish list.
>
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>"God for you is where you sweep away all the
>mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>
> On 8/11/2017 8:52 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> > So 3rd gen doesn’t have apps I don’t think the model I speak of is the
> one that had internal memory and runs actual IOS or TVOS apps.  Just for
> completeness and accuracy.
> >
> > And yes you most certainly can handle it if the AV control protocol
> isn’t enabled on the box you’re attaching.
> >
> > As far as models, you probably don’t want the ones I bought because of
> the price but the ones I’m familiar with are the 7500, 8500 and 9500 series
> which are basically different screen technologies with them all being 4K
> but the 9500 model hs quantum dots which is a much more accurate generator
> of pixels.  That being said you may not want to go so high end.  What you
> want to insure is what ever Samsung you go with it supports Voice Guide or
> they also call it accessibility features.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:47 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> >>
> >>   Thanks Scott. Ok that sounds good to me, so if the other device does
> not support the auto switching, it still is doable. Is there a particular
> model that I should look at? My Apple TV 3rd still does what I want and I
> am starting to use the apps more too.
> >>
> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
> >>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
> >>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
> >>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
> >>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
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> >>
> >> On 8/11/2017 8:40 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> >>> It depends if you have HDMI control messages enabled on both the TV
> and the end device supports it.  I can confirm Samsung does this with the
> Gen 4 Apple TV but not previous versions, Google Chrome Cast works this way
> as does Comcast, charter and FIOS set top boxes.  So it can be hit or miss
> but your general idea is sound. Samsung also provides spoken output so you
> can change sources very easily and not have to memorize or guess what port
> you’re on.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:26 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will switch
> to an active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? My current TV
> is 9 years old, might be time to replace it.
> 
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Re: Smart TV

[Mary Otten]

The model number for my Samsung television is un32j5500af


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 11, 2017, at 9:00 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   At the moment, the built in apps are sufficient. I hid the majority of them 
> because I do not want to be saddled with multiple subscriptions. I was 
> disappointed to find out this week that even PBS wants you to be a 
> "sustaining member" to access their premium content. Sad.
> 
>   Anyway, I will be window shopping and add to my wish list.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
>> On 8/11/2017 8:52 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> So 3rd gen doesn’t have apps I don’t think the model I speak of is the one 
>> that had internal memory and runs actual IOS or TVOS apps.  Just for 
>> completeness and accuracy.
>> 
>> And yes you most certainly can handle it if the AV control protocol isn’t 
>> enabled on the box you’re attaching.
>> 
>> As far as models, you probably don’t want the ones I bought because of the 
>> price but the ones I’m familiar with are the 7500, 8500 and 9500 series 
>> which are basically different screen technologies with them all being 4K but 
>> the 9500 model hs quantum dots which is a much more accurate generator of 
>> pixels.  That being said you may not want to go so high end.  What you want 
>> to insure is what ever Samsung you go with it supports Voice Guide or they 
>> also call it accessibility features.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:47 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Thanks Scott. Ok that sounds good to me, so if the other device does not 
>>> support the auto switching, it still is doable. Is there a particular model 
>>> that I should look at? My Apple TV 3rd still does what I want and I am 
>>> starting to use the apps more too.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
 On 8/11/2017 8:40 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 It depends if you have HDMI control messages enabled on both the TV and 
 the end device supports it.  I can confirm Samsung does this with the Gen 
 4 Apple TV but not previous versions, Google Chrome Cast works this way as 
 does Comcast, charter and FIOS set top boxes.  So it can be hit or miss 
 but your general idea is sound. Samsung also provides spoken output so you 
 can change sources very easily and not have to memorize or guess what port 
 you’re on.
 
 
 
> On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:26 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will switch to an 
> active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? My current TV is 9 
> years old, might be time to replace it.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
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Re: Smart TV

[Mary Otten]

Yes. Pressing a button on the remote for the device that you want to switch to 
switches it there. It will even turn the TV on if the TV is off. I have 
DirecTV, and Amazon fire stick, and fourth generation Apple TV. I can't speak 
to the third generation one. Also, it seems to me that this ability to do this 
switching when you punch a button on the remote started happening after a 
recent firmware update. Why that should be, I haven't a clue. I will have to 
get the model number for you, as I don't remember it. And my sided partner is 
still sleeping. I am Magine my TV was on the opposite end of the Samsung 
spectrum from Scott. It is not 4K. And I think it's only a 32 inch screen. I do 
have a nice sound bar for it. I got it on sale at Best Buy sometime around the 
holidays. Quite honestly, if I were going to buy a TV now, I would want to know 
a lot more about the new Amazon TV set. I'm really impressed with the work that 
they're doing over there with voiceview. I think it has the best sound, and is 
the most flexible. But I don't know about the capability of the actual TV to do 
the thing you want to do. If That worked, and I were buying a TV now, I would 
not hesitate to get the Amazon one.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:51 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
>   Do you have the model number? With the Apple TV, if you want to switch back 
> to it, what triggers that? Pressing a button on the remote?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
>> On 8/11/2017 8:42 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
>> 
>> I have a Samsung smart TV which I bought at the end of last year. It does 
>> what you are saying you would like yours to do. I can't swear that they all 
>> do it. Mine has three HDMI inputs, all full. And if I start doing something 
>> on one of the devices that's plugged into one of the HDMI ports, it switches 
>> there.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:26 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will switch to an 
>>> active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? My current TV is 9 
>>> years old, might be time to replace it.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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Re: Smart TV

[E.T.]

   At the moment, the built in apps are sufficient. I hid the majority 
of them because I do not want to be saddled with multiple subscriptions. 
I was disappointed to find out this week that even PBS wants you to be a 
"sustaining member" to access their premium content. Sad.


   Anyway, I will be window shopping and add to my wish list.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 8/11/2017 8:52 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

So 3rd gen doesn’t have apps I don’t think the model I speak of is the one that 
had internal memory and runs actual IOS or TVOS apps.  Just for completeness 
and accuracy.

And yes you most certainly can handle it if the AV control protocol isn’t 
enabled on the box you’re attaching.

As far as models, you probably don’t want the ones I bought because of the 
price but the ones I’m familiar with are the 7500, 8500 and 9500 series which 
are basically different screen technologies with them all being 4K but the 9500 
model hs quantum dots which is a much more accurate generator of pixels.  That 
being said you may not want to go so high end.  What you want to insure is what 
ever Samsung you go with it supports Voice Guide or they also call it 
accessibility features.

Good luck.




On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:47 AM, E.T.  wrote:

  Thanks Scott. Ok that sounds good to me, so if the other device does not 
support the auto switching, it still is doable. Is there a particular model 
that I should look at? My Apple TV 3rd still does what I want and I am starting 
to use the apps more too.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 "God for you is where you sweep away all the
 mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
 our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
 and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 8/11/2017 8:40 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

It depends if you have HDMI control messages enabled on both the TV and the end 
device supports it.  I can confirm Samsung does this with the Gen 4 Apple TV 
but not previous versions, Google Chrome Cast works this way as does Comcast, 
charter and FIOS set top boxes.  So it can be hit or miss but your general idea 
is sound. Samsung also provides spoken output so you can change sources very 
easily and not have to memorize or guess what port you’re on.




On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:26 AM, E.T.  wrote:

 Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will switch to an 
active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? My current TV is 9 years 
old, might be time to replace it.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the
mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

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Re: Smart TV

[Scott Granados]

E.T., on my unit you have something called the smart hub.  It has all your 
connections and apps in an easy to use section that you use your left and right 
arrows to select.  Then you press OK or enter on the one you want to choose.  
Then when you’re done you either hit the home key and go back to the smart hub 
or hit exit on the app or source you’re in and get again back to this hub 
feature.
Your smart remote which is super simple also programs itself on setup 
for all your other devices so when you’re done one remote runs everything, you 
can ditch all the others.  I should really do a podcast on this because I’m 
quite blown away by how well it works.
 

> On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:51 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
>   Do you have the model number? With the Apple TV, if you want to switch back 
> to it, what triggers that? Pressing a button on the remote?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 8/11/2017 8:42 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
>> 
>> I have a Samsung smart TV which I bought at the end of last year. It does 
>> what you are saying you would like yours to do. I can't swear that they all 
>> do it. Mine has three HDMI inputs, all full. And if I start doing something 
>> on one of the devices that's plugged into one of the HDMI ports, it switches 
>> there.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:26 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will switch to an 
>>> active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? My current TV is 9 
>>> years old, might be time to replace it.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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Re: Smart TV

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So 3rd gen doesn’t have apps I don’t think the model I speak of is the one that 
had internal memory and runs actual IOS or TVOS apps.  Just for completeness 
and accuracy.

And yes you most certainly can handle it if the AV control protocol isn’t 
enabled on the box you’re attaching.

As far as models, you probably don’t want the ones I bought because of the 
price but the ones I’m familiar with are the 7500, 8500 and 9500 series which 
are basically different screen technologies with them all being 4K but the 9500 
model hs quantum dots which is a much more accurate generator of pixels.  That 
being said you may not want to go so high end.  What you want to insure is what 
ever Samsung you go with it supports Voice Guide or they also call it 
accessibility features.

Good luck.
 


> On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:47 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Thanks Scott. Ok that sounds good to me, so if the other device does not 
> support the auto switching, it still is doable. Is there a particular model 
> that I should look at? My Apple TV 3rd still does what I want and I am 
> starting to use the apps more too.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 8/11/2017 8:40 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> It depends if you have HDMI control messages enabled on both the TV and the 
>> end device supports it.  I can confirm Samsung does this with the Gen 4 
>> Apple TV but not previous versions, Google Chrome Cast works this way as 
>> does Comcast, charter and FIOS set top boxes.  So it can be hit or miss but 
>> your general idea is sound. Samsung also provides spoken output so you can 
>> change sources very easily and not have to memorize or guess what port 
>> you’re on.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:26 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will switch to an 
>>> active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? My current TV is 9 
>>> years old, might be time to replace it.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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Re: Smart TV

[E.T.]

Mary,
   Do you have the model number? With the Apple TV, if you want to 
switch back to it, what triggers that? Pressing a button on the remote?


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On 8/11/2017 8:42 AM, Mary Otten wrote:


I have a Samsung smart TV which I bought at the end of last year. It does what 
you are saying you would like yours to do. I can't swear that they all do it. 
Mine has three HDMI inputs, all full. And if I start doing something on one of 
the devices that's plugged into one of the HDMI ports, it switches there.
Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:26 AM, E.T.  wrote:

  Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will switch to an 
active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? My current TV is 9 years 
old, might be time to replace it.

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Re: Smart TV

[E.T.]

   Thanks Scott. Ok that sounds good to me, so if the other device does 
not support the auto switching, it still is doable. Is there a 
particular model that I should look at? My Apple TV 3rd still does what 
I want and I am starting to use the apps more too.


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On 8/11/2017 8:40 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

It depends if you have HDMI control messages enabled on both the TV and the end 
device supports it.  I can confirm Samsung does this with the Gen 4 Apple TV 
but not previous versions, Google Chrome Cast works this way as does Comcast, 
charter and FIOS set top boxes.  So it can be hit or miss but your general idea 
is sound. Samsung also provides spoken output so you can change sources very 
easily and not have to memorize or guess what port you’re on.




On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:26 AM, E.T.  wrote:

  Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will switch to an 
active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? My current TV is 9 years 
old, might be time to replace it.

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Re: Smart TV

[Mary Otten]

I have a Samsung smart TV which I bought at the end of last year. It does what 
you are saying you would like yours to do. I can't swear that they all do it. 
Mine has three HDMI inputs, all full. And if I start doing something on one of 
the devices that's plugged into one of the HDMI ports, it switches there.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:26 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will switch to an 
> active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? My current TV is 9 
> years old, might be time to replace it.
> 
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>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
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Re: Smart TV

[Scott Granados]

It depends if you have HDMI control messages enabled on both the TV and the end 
device supports it.  I can confirm Samsung does this with the Gen 4 Apple TV 
but not previous versions, Google Chrome Cast works this way as does Comcast, 
charter and FIOS set top boxes.  So it can be hit or miss but your general idea 
is sound. Samsung also provides spoken output so you can change sources very 
easily and not have to memorize or guess what port you’re on.



> On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:26 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will switch to an 
> active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? My current TV is 9 
> years old, might be time to replace it.
> 
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