Re: Help with Finder

2013-11-03 Thread Maria and Joe Chapman
HI.  I am in list view and had no problem moving a file.

Here is how I do it.

1 locate the file you want to move.
2. press command c
3. navigate to the folder you want to paste the item in to
4. open the folder and press command option v.
I have found that opening the folder is more accurate than just being on top of 
it.

I hope this helps.
Cheers 
Maria  

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On 3 Nov 2013, at 1:24 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:

 Hi guys
 
 I finally got back into Mavericks, and that is the root of my problem. I 
 can't use my Braille Edge 40 and Bluetooth right now and have to use it in 
 USB. The other thing, and somebody on this list said they had this problem 
 too, I can't seem to be able to use column view. Every time I do I get Finder 
 busy and I have to bail out. But here is the thing that's driving me crazy 
 and I want to know if any of you have figured out a solution. Since I had to 
 go to List view, I can't seem to paste files into my folder. Yes I know you 
 have to get on top of the thing, but every time I try to move a file into the 
 folder I wanted, it said it was moved but it wasn't. I got it pasted finally 
 by briefly going into column mode. Actually, what I did was to go to the 
 desktop and choose the folder, which fortunately, I had an alias for it. When 
 I got right to the folder that's when I went into column view to do the 
 paste. So now what do I do beside write accessibilityápple.com, that is? I 
 can stay in mavericks, and I will unless I get too annoyed by the busy.
 
 Regards,
 Gigi
 
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Re: Help with Finder

2013-11-03 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi there
Thanks guys. It never occurred to me to open the folder because in Mountain 
lion you didn't open the folder. I will try that next time. The other thing I 
have done is to set up some aliases on my desktop so I can get to the folders a 
little faster. I did manage to paste in the aliases to the desktop although it 
took me a while to figure out that I could just paste once I was on the thing 
instead of going in to my hard disk. I should've figured that one out myself 
first. Maybe I'm judging a little too soon yet, but I liked Collin view under 
Mountain lion better than I'm liking this at this moment. So I will just keep 
plugging away and get it figured out. Thanks again.
Regards,
Gigi

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 On Nov 3, 2013, at 1:46 AM, Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 HI.  I am in list view and had no problem moving a file.
 
 Here is how I do it.
 
 1 locate the file you want to move.
 2. press command c
 3. navigate to the folder you want to paste the item in to
 4. open the folder and press command option v.
 I have found that opening the folder is more accurate than just being on top 
 of it.
 
 I hope this helps.
 Cheers 
 Maria  
 
 sent from mac mini 
 email,  fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 skype bubbygirl1972  twitter same as skype without the numbers. 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 3 Nov 2013, at 1:24 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi guys
 
 I finally got back into Mavericks, and that is the root of my problem. I 
 can't use my Braille Edge 40 and Bluetooth right now and have to use it in 
 USB. The other thing, and somebody on this list said they had this problem 
 too, I can't seem to be able to use column view. Every time I do I get 
 Finder busy and I have to bail out. But here is the thing that's driving me 
 crazy and I want to know if any of you have figured out a solution. Since I 
 had to go to List view, I can't seem to paste files into my folder. Yes I 
 know you have to get on top of the thing, but every time I try to move a 
 file into the folder I wanted, it said it was moved but it wasn't. I got it 
 pasted finally by briefly going into column mode. Actually, what I did was 
 to go to the desktop and choose the folder, which fortunately, I had an 
 alias for it. When I got right to the folder that's when I went into column 
 view to do the paste. So now what do I do beside write 
 accessibilityápple.com, that is? I can stay in mavericks, and I will unless 
 I get too annoyed by the busy.
 
 Regards,
 Gigi
 
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Re: Help with Finder

2013-07-19 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey Eugenia, Great post, as I have been using the mac for three years now, and 
at first had the same issues with finder that you had, as it takes some getting 
used to. Funny as I never have used column mode, and after reading your great 
explanation of it changed a finder window to it and loved it, so much quicker 
to navigate than list view. Thanks for the great post.
On Jul 18, 2013, at 7:13 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:

 when I first got my Mac, Finder was probably the hardest thing for me. This 
 is because I was not used to the List View mode looks on the Mac compared to 
 Windows. I had never used Column mode in Windows, and now I love it. 
 
 When I was using Windows, I pressed the enter key if I wanted to access a 
 folder. Doing that on the Mac will cause you to enter renaming mode for 
 renaming your files and folders. I love that now, but I kept wanting to press 
 that enter key to get into my folders. 
 
 On the Mac, if you use list view mode, the folder name is at the top of your 
 list and you press down arrow below that for the file names. If you choose 
 column mode, which I now prefer, you don't encounter your file names unless 
 you press the right arrow key after you hear the file folder that the file is 
 in. Column mode for me makes it faster to get through things because I don't 
 need to hear all those file names until I want them. 
 
 Then there's another thing that I had to get used to. If you want to paste a 
 file into a folder, you don't go into the folder. You get on top of it and 
 paste or move it into the folder. The commands for doing these functions are 
 easy, and you will recognize them if you ever had a Windows computer. Copy is 
 command c; paste is command v; move is a little different with option command 
 v. There is a command x for cut and paste but I find moving with option 
 command v to work more consistently. 
 
 I hope this discussion helps. 
 
 Oh, another command you might want to remember in case you something horrible 
 you didn't want to (like I did), is command z as in zap to undo something you 
 did. 
 
 Regards, 
 Gigi 
 
 On Jul 18, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Scott's MacBook Pro blindfait...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 What problems are you having? Maybe we can help you to better understand the 
 Finder if you explain to us what struggles you are having.
 
 Scott
 On Jul 18, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Kirsten hill keesa.h...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello:
 
 Is there a resource available that I can use to understand the file 
 structure and navigating within finder using voice over? 
 
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Re: Help with Finder

2013-07-18 Thread Phil Halton
Kirsten, I don't know of any specific help for finder, but how about the 
MAC's help system? That should have something.


In the meantime, I'll try to give you a thumbnail sketch of its use.

There are four views, or ways of interacting with finder.
command+1, Icon view, which I ignore.
command+2, List view which is good and has its own uses.
command+3, column view, my favorite and I think the most useful.
command+4, cover flow view, again, I totally ignore this view.

When you command tab to the finder and land on on the desktop, you have to 
first open a basic finder window with Command+N.


in the finder window:
the sidebar is a listing of various devices and folders on your system, and 
you can select those devices or folders in the sidebar table. Although, I 
tend to ignore the sidebar, and just drill down and up through the file 
structure in the files and folders list. The Go menu also has alot of 
shortcuts to get you into certain main folders on your system.


Once in a device or folder, and depending on your selected view, there is a 
files and folders list at the far right which will let you browse and 
access sub folders and files under that main folder. By the way, The title 
bar just to the left of the toolbar always tells you what folder you are 
currently in.


In list view,the files and folders list  is a table that you interact with 
and VO down and up arrow through the contained files and folders. to expand 
and collapse subfolders in list view, you need to press VO \ (above the 
return key). To set the current folder (according to the title bar) to the 
current folder in list view, you have to open the folder with command down 
arrow. And, to move back up one level to the parent folder, you use command 
up arrow. Any pasting you do in Finder is done according to what the current 
folder is (as stated in the title bar), and with list view, you have to be 
careful to set the current folder with command up and down arrow keys. 
Column view is different in that just arrowing to the folder in the browser 
sets it as the current folder, and if you then do a paste command, the files 
get pasted into that folder.
List view's main advantage is that you can get meta data about the file or 
folder by VO right arrowing across the table and hearing the date modified, 
size, etc, which you don't get in column view.


Column view (command + 2) I think is easiest to use
in column view, the table at the far right is called simply browser, and you 
interact with it to get at the subfolders and files of the currently 
selected folder or device (check the title bar when in doubt).
Once in column view, just arrow up and down (no VO keys needed) through the 
list of enclosed files and folders, and to expand and collapse sub folders, 
just right and left arrow.


Hope this gets you started.
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Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 9:35 AM
Subject: Help with Finder



Hello:

Is there a resource available that I can use to understand the file 
structure and navigating within finder using voice over?


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Re: Help with Finder

2013-07-18 Thread Kirsten hill
Thanks to Phil and John!  I am such a newbie to the Mac and I really appreciate 
the help.  

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-07-18, at 10:25 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Kirsten, I don't know of any specific help for finder, but how about the 
 MAC's help system? That should have something.
 
 In the meantime, I'll try to give you a thumbnail sketch of its use.
 
 There are four views, or ways of interacting with finder.
 command+1, Icon view, which I ignore.
 command+2, List view which is good and has its own uses.
 command+3, column view, my favorite and I think the most useful.
 command+4, cover flow view, again, I totally ignore this view.
 
 When you command tab to the finder and land on on the desktop, you have to 
 first open a basic finder window with Command+N.
 
 in the finder window:
 the sidebar is a listing of various devices and folders on your system, and 
 you can select those devices or folders in the sidebar table. Although, I 
 tend to ignore the sidebar, and just drill down and up through the file 
 structure in the files and folders list. The Go menu also has alot of 
 shortcuts to get you into certain main folders on your system.
 
 Once in a device or folder, and depending on your selected view, there is a 
 files and folders list at the far right which will let you browse and 
 access sub folders and files under that main folder. By the way, The title 
 bar just to the left of the toolbar always tells you what folder you are 
 currently in.
 
 In list view,the files and folders list  is a table that you interact with 
 and VO down and up arrow through the contained files and folders. to expand 
 and collapse subfolders in list view, you need to press VO \ (above the 
 return key). To set the current folder (according to the title bar) to the 
 current folder in list view, you have to open the folder with command down 
 arrow. And, to move back up one level to the parent folder, you use command 
 up arrow. Any pasting you do in Finder is done according to what the current 
 folder is (as stated in the title bar), and with list view, you have to be 
 careful to set the current folder with command up and down arrow keys. 
 Column view is different in that just arrowing to the folder in the browser 
 sets it as the current folder, and if you then do a paste command, the files 
 get pasted into that folder.
 List view's main advantage is that you can get meta data about the file or 
 folder by VO right arrowing across the table and hearing the date modified, 
 size, etc, which you don't get in column view.
 
 Column view (command + 2) I think is easiest to use
 in column view, the table at the far right is called simply browser, and you 
 interact with it to get at the subfolders and files of the currently selected 
 folder or device (check the title bar when in doubt).
 Once in column view, just arrow up and down (no VO keys needed) through the 
 list of enclosed files and folders, and to expand and collapse sub folders, 
 just right and left arrow.
 
 Hope this gets you started.
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 Is there a resource available that I can use to understand the file 
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Re: Help with Finder

2013-07-18 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi there
I am sure there are all kinds of podcasts, etc. However, if you would like, I 
can send you a copy of a file that Apple gave me. It gives keyboard commands 
for the Macintosh. Do you want it?
Regards,

Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Help with Finder

2013-07-18 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
Hello, Kiersten.

Navigating within finder is as easy as understanding the directory tree 
structure of files on the hard drive. The first thing you should know is that, 
if you would rather, you can have finder display The part of the directory tree 
you are currently browsing at a set of columns, rather than as a grade or a 
Cover Flow view.

If it would help you to see your directory tree in this way, press command 
three. Find or will switch to a column view.

In this mode, Simply pressing the up or down arrow will take you along the tree 
branch that you are currently browsing. Similarly, pressing the right arrow 
will take you one folder or file away from the root of the directory tree, 
pressing the left arrow will take you back toward the trunk.

Let me know if I can be of more assistance.   I personally work for a very good 
online tutorial agency that may be able to help with training.

Be well.

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Re: Help with Finder

2013-07-18 Thread Angus Mackinnon
I am following this interesting thread. In Finder I can not find out to 
delete a selected item, even doing Command + K for keyboard help. How do 
you delete a selected item? And ccan you bypass the Trash? In Windows 
you can hold down Shift to bypass the Recycle bin.


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Re: Help with Finder

2013-07-18 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

I don't believe that you can bypass the Trash.  Pressing cmd-delete on a 
selected item will move it to the Trash.  cmd-option-delete will usually move 
locked items to the Trash.  cmd-shift-delete empties the Trash and 
cmd-option-shift-delete will empty the Trash without asking you if you are sure 
you want to do this.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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 I am following this interesting thread. In Finder I can not find out to 
 delete a selected item, even doing Command + K for keyboard help. How do you 
 delete a selected item? And ccan you bypass the Trash? In Windows you can 
 hold down Shift to bypass the Recycle bin.
 
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Re: Help with Finder

2013-07-18 Thread Kirsten hill
Yes please!  

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On 2013-07-18, at 10:38 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:

 Hi there
 I am sure there are all kinds of podcasts, etc. However, if you would like, I 
 can send you a copy of a file that Apple gave me. It gives keyboard commands 
 for the Macintosh. Do you want it?
 Regards,
 
 Gigi
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 18, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Kirsten hill keesa.h...@gmail.com wrote:
 
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 Is there a resource available that I can use to understand the file 
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Re: Help with Finder

2013-07-18 Thread Scott's MacBook Pro
What problems are you having? Maybe we can help you to better understand the 
Finder if you explain to us what struggles you are having.

Scott
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RE: Help with Finder

2013-07-18 Thread wayne17a
Hello I would like that key list please so again thanks

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eugenia Firth
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Subject: Re: Help with Finder

Hi there
I am sure there are all kinds of podcasts, etc. However, if you would like,
I can send you a copy of a file that Apple gave me. It gives keyboard
commands for the Macintosh. Do you want it?
Regards,

Gigi

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 Is there a resource available that I can use to understand the file
structure and navigating within finder using voice over? 
 
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Re: Help with Finder

2013-07-18 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
Angus:

First, I believe the command that you want for keyboard help is voiceover Kate, 
E. G. Control option Kay.This  will give you the keyboard help that you desire.
 
I order to move items to the trash, use command backspace. Simply backspace 
won't do it. When you need to retrieve something from the trash, In most cases, 
the easiest way to do this is from the dock. Let me know if you need more help 
with the dock.

Hope this helps. Be well.
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On Jul 18, 2013, at 7:58 AM, Angus Mackinnon thedog...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am following this interesting thread. In Finder I can not find out to 
 delete a selected item, even doing Command + K for keyboard help. How do you 
 delete a selected item? And ccan you bypass the Trash? In Windows you can 
 hold down Shift to bypass the Recycle bin.
 
 Angus MacKinnon
 MacKinnon Chrest Saying
 Latin - Audentes Fortuna Juvat
 English - Fortune Assists The Daring
 Creating a Better Universe for the future.
 
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Re: Help with Finder

2013-07-18 Thread Eugenia Firth
when I first got my Mac, Finder was probably the hardest thing for me. This is 
because I was not used to the List View mode looks on the Mac compared to 
Windows. I had never used Column mode in Windows, and now I love it. 

When I was using Windows, I pressed the enter key if I wanted to access a 
folder. Doing that on the Mac will cause you to enter renaming mode for 
renaming your files and folders. I love that now, but I kept wanting to press 
that enter key to get into my folders. 

On the Mac, if you use list view mode, the folder name is at the top of your 
list and you press down arrow below that for the file names. If you choose 
column mode, which I now prefer, you don't encounter your file names unless you 
press the right arrow key after you hear the file folder that the file is in. 
Column mode for me makes it faster to get through things because I don't need 
to hear all those file names until I want them. 

Then there's another thing that I had to get used to. If you want to paste a 
file into a folder, you don't go into the folder. You get on top of it and 
paste or move it into the folder. The commands for doing these functions are 
easy, and you will recognize them if you ever had a Windows computer. Copy is 
command c; paste is command v; move is a little different with option command 
v. There is a command x for cut and paste but I find moving with option command 
v to work more consistently. 

I hope this discussion helps. 

Oh, another command you might want to remember in case you something horrible 
you didn't want to (like I did), is command z as in zap to undo something you 
did. 

Regards, 
Gigi 

On Jul 18, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Scott's MacBook Pro blindfait...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 What problems are you having? Maybe we can help you to better understand the 
 Finder if you explain to us what struggles you are having.
 
 Scott
 On Jul 18, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Kirsten hill keesa.h...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello:
 
 Is there a resource available that I can use to understand the file 
 structure and navigating within finder using voice over? 
 
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Re: Help with Finder

2013-07-18 Thread Kirsten hill
Hello Eugenia: 

Thanks so much for your help!  My early experience with the finder has been so 
similar to yours. ☺  

Thanks also, to those that took the time to pass along the very helpful hints.  
I feel much more comfortable in finder now than I did this morning.  I'm loving 
the column view and now with a clearer understanding of the layout I can work 
at the navigation commands.

Take care,
Kirsten 
   

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On 2013-07-18, at 7:13 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:

 when I first got my Mac, Finder was probably the hardest thing for me. This 
 is because I was not used to the List View mode looks on the Mac compared to 
 Windows. I had never used Column mode in Windows, and now I love it. 
 
 When I was using Windows, I pressed the enter key if I wanted to access a 
 folder. Doing that on the Mac will cause you to enter renaming mode for 
 renaming your files and folders. I love that now, but I kept wanting to press 
 that enter key to get into my folders. 
 
 On the Mac, if you use list view mode, the folder name is at the top of your 
 list and you press down arrow below that for the file names. If you choose 
 column mode, which I now prefer, you don't encounter your file names unless 
 you press the right arrow key after you hear the file folder that the file is 
 in. Column mode for me makes it faster to get through things because I don't 
 need to hear all those file names until I want them. 
 
 Then there's another thing that I had to get used to. If you want to paste a 
 file into a folder, you don't go into the folder. You get on top of it and 
 paste or move it into the folder. The commands for doing these functions are 
 easy, and you will recognize them if you ever had a Windows computer. Copy is 
 command c; paste is command v; move is a little different with option command 
 v. There is a command x for cut and paste but I find moving with option 
 command v to work more consistently. 
 
 I hope this discussion helps. 
 
 Oh, another command you might want to remember in case you something horrible 
 you didn't want to (like I did), is command z as in zap to undo something you 
 did. 
 
 Regards, 
 Gigi 
 
 On Jul 18, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Scott's MacBook Pro blindfait...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 What problems are you having? Maybe we can help you to better understand the 
 Finder if you explain to us what struggles you are having.
 
 Scott
 On Jul 18, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Kirsten hill keesa.h...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello:
 
 Is there a resource available that I can use to understand the file 
 structure and navigating within finder using voice over? 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Help with Finder

2013-07-18 Thread Katey Glass
thanks for this very interesting discussion, I'll save it and use it to explore 
 learn the finder on my mac.  I'm still a newbie, and learning.  Ironically I 
seem to use my mac a lot for filling out web forms!  Such as those that doctors 
offices seem to have on their websites now.  Even though my iPad has a 
bluetooth keyboard that I use quite a bit!  LOL.  

I really need to start working with my podcasts again to get really comfortable 
with my MBA.  

Katey

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On Jul 18, 2013, at 8:26 PM, Kirsten hill keesa.h...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Eugenia: 
 
 Thanks so much for your help!  My early experience with the finder has been 
 so similar to yours. ☺  
 
 Thanks also, to those that took the time to pass along the very helpful 
 hints.  I feel much more comfortable in finder now than I did this morning.  
 I'm loving the column view and now with a clearer understanding of the layout 
 I can work at the navigation commands.
 
 Take care,
 Kirsten 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 2013-07-18, at 7:13 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 when I first got my Mac, Finder was probably the hardest thing for me. This 
 is because I was not used to the List View mode looks on the Mac compared to 
 Windows. I had never used Column mode in Windows, and now I love it. 
 
 When I was using Windows, I pressed the enter key if I wanted to access a 
 folder. Doing that on the Mac will cause you to enter renaming mode for 
 renaming your files and folders. I love that now, but I kept wanting to 
 press that enter key to get into my folders. 
 
 On the Mac, if you use list view mode, the folder name is at the top of your 
 list and you press down arrow below that for the file names. If you choose 
 column mode, which I now prefer, you don't encounter your file names unless 
 you press the right arrow key after you hear the file folder that the file 
 is in. Column mode for me makes it faster to get through things because I 
 don't need to hear all those file names until I want them. 
 
 Then there's another thing that I had to get used to. If you want to paste a 
 file into a folder, you don't go into the folder. You get on top of it and 
 paste or move it into the folder. The commands for doing these functions are 
 easy, and you will recognize them if you ever had a Windows computer. Copy 
 is command c; paste is command v; move is a little different with option 
 command v. There is a command x for cut and paste but I find moving with 
 option command v to work more consistently. 
 
 I hope this discussion helps. 
 
 Oh, another command you might want to remember in case you something 
 horrible you didn't want to (like I did), is command z as in zap to undo 
 something you did. 
 
 Regards, 
 Gigi 
 
 On Jul 18, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Scott's MacBook Pro blindfait...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 What problems are you having? Maybe we can help you to better understand 
 the Finder if you explain to us what struggles you are having.
 
 Scott
 On Jul 18, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Kirsten hill keesa.h...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello:
 
 Is there a resource available that I can use to understand the file 
 structure and navigating within finder using voice over? 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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