Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
I have the 2010 Macbook Air running Lion. I did not mean to imply that you are wrong about the Macbook Pro. I was just adding that it is quite the opposite with the Air. Kristyn On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:58 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Really? > > Oh. It certainly doesn't on the Macbook pro mid 2010. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Kristyn Leigh wrote: > >> That's not true on my Macbook air running Lion. If I set the screen >> brightness to 0, it stays there when I reboot. >> On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:17 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Right, >>> >>> Its not possible to turn off the display as it were, without locking the >>> device. I guess they figured, why would anyone want such a feature. You >>> would have a lot of paniced sighted folks. lol. On the Mac, restarting >>> your macbook will turn back up screen brightness. But there's no intuitive >>> way to restart an iPhone without sight unless your a voiceover user. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >>> www.mobileaccess.org >>> >>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Chris Moore wrote: >>> If only we could turn the screen brightness down to complete zero on the iPhone too (it is still visible with the brightness way down). On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:06, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > Just like to add to this, If using a macbook, turning on screen curtain > is not a substitute for turning down screen brightness in regards to > battery conservation. If all you do is turn on screen curtain, your > display is still blazing away just with well, a black curtain over it. > lol. > > hth > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor wrote: > >> Hello Johnny, >> >> You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by >> triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad. >> >> Mark >> On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> How does one enable and disable the screen curtain? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Johnny >>> >>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>> Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed more than once that my keyboard's backlight is completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen curtain. It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users Hello Everyone, After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope will prove to be useful to you. F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always sitting on my desk when running Lion. Additionally, when I have the FireWire connected, I also have the power cable connected. Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend who installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being: The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first installed. Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was when I upgraded to Lion. However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, today, I discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before the upgrade. After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in heat went away. So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before upgrading/installing Lion. F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively. Mark
RE: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
It doesn't on the macbook pro 2011 either. I wish it would save my preference to have screen brightness at 0. Ah well. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 1:58 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users Really? Oh. It certainly doesn't on the Macbook pro mid 2010. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Kristyn Leigh wrote: > That's not true on my Macbook air running Lion. If I set the screen > brightness to 0, it stays there when I reboot. > On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:17 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Right, >> >> Its not possible to turn off the display as it were, without locking the >> device. I guess they figured, why would anyone want such a feature. You would have a lot of paniced sighted folks. lol. On the Mac, restarting your macbook will turn back up screen brightness. But there's no intuitive way to restart an iPhone without sight unless your a voiceover user. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Chris Moore wrote: >> >>> If only we could turn the screen brightness down to complete zero on the >>> iPhone too (it is still visible with the brightness way down). >>> On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:06, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Just like to add to this, If using a macbook, turning on screen curtain is >>>> not a substitute for turning down screen brightness in regards to battery conservation. If all you do is turn on screen curtain, your display is still blazing away just with well, a black curtain over it. lol. >>>> >>>> hth >>>> >>>> Ricardo Walker >>>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >>>> www.mobileaccess.org >>>> >>>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Johnny, >>>>> >>>>> You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by >>>>> triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad. >>>>> >>>>> Mark >>>>> On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi! >>>>>> >>>>>> How does one enable and disable the screen curtain? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Johnny >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed >>>>>>> more than once that my keyboard's backlight is >>>>>>> completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent >>>>>>> definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. >>>>>>> Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen >>>>>>> curtain. >>>>>>> It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. >>>>>>> Missy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Original Message- >>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM >>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Everyone, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat >>>>>>> generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of >>>>>>> battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope >>>>>>> will >>>>>>> prove to be useful to you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire >>>>>>> drive >>>>>>> and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always >>>>>>> sitting >>>>>>> on my d
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
Hi, Yes, this is what I meant. Thanks for correcting me on this. I assume since this is the behavior of the MBP and plastic macbook, that the air would be the same. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:32 PM, Kristyn Leigh wrote: > The message I replied to does not refer to turning off screen curtain. He > wrote "On the Mac, restarting your macbook will turn back up screen > brightness. ." > > > On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:24 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > >> Ricardo did not say that, he said if you turn the screen curtain on it will >> turn itself off after a reboot, this behaves the same way on iOS devices too. >> On 12 Aug 2011, at 18:19, Kristyn Leigh wrote: >> >>> That's not true on my Macbook air running Lion. If I set the screen >>> brightness to 0, it stays there when I reboot. >>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:17 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> Right, Its not possible to turn off the display as it were, without locking the device. I guess they figured, why would anyone want such a feature. You would have a lot of paniced sighted folks. lol. On the Mac, restarting your macbook will turn back up screen brightness. But there's no intuitive way to restart an iPhone without sight unless your a voiceover user. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > If only we could turn the screen brightness down to complete zero on the > iPhone too (it is still visible with the brightness way down). > On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:06, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Just like to add to this, If using a macbook, turning on screen curtain >> is not a substitute for turning down screen brightness in regards to >> battery conservation. If all you do is turn on screen curtain, your >> display is still blazing away just with well, a black curtain over it. >> lol. >> >> hth >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor wrote: >> >>> Hello Johnny, >>> >>> You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by >>> triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad. >>> >>> Mark >>> On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote: >>> Hi! How does one enable and disable the screen curtain? Thanks, Johnny On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed > more than once that my keyboard's backlight is > completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 > percent definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. > Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the > screen curtain. > It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. > Missy > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor > Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users > > Hello Everyone, > > After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in > heat > generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening > of > battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I > hope will > prove to be useful to you. > > F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire > drive > and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always > sitting > on my desk when running Lion. Additionally, when I have the FireWire > connected, I also have the power cable connected. > > Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a > friend who > installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same > being: > The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first > installed. > > > Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it > was when > I upgraded to Lion. However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, > today, I > discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been > before > the upgrade. > > After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
Really? Oh. It certainly doesn't on the Macbook pro mid 2010. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Kristyn Leigh wrote: > That's not true on my Macbook air running Lion. If I set the screen > brightness to 0, it stays there when I reboot. > On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:17 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Right, >> >> Its not possible to turn off the display as it were, without locking the >> device. I guess they figured, why would anyone want such a feature. You >> would have a lot of paniced sighted folks. lol. On the Mac, restarting >> your macbook will turn back up screen brightness. But there's no intuitive >> way to restart an iPhone without sight unless your a voiceover user. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Chris Moore wrote: >> >>> If only we could turn the screen brightness down to complete zero on the >>> iPhone too (it is still visible with the brightness way down). >>> On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:06, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> Hi, Just like to add to this, If using a macbook, turning on screen curtain is not a substitute for turning down screen brightness in regards to battery conservation. If all you do is turn on screen curtain, your display is still blazing away just with well, a black curtain over it. lol. hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor wrote: > Hello Johnny, > > You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by > triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad. > > Mark > On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> How does one enable and disable the screen curtain? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Johnny >> >> On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: >> >>> Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed >>> more than once that my keyboard's backlight is >>> completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent >>> definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. >>> Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen >>> curtain. >>> It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. >>> Missy >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor >>> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat >>> generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of >>> battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope >>> will >>> prove to be useful to you. >>> >>> F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire >>> drive >>> and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always >>> sitting >>> on my desk when running Lion. Additionally, when I have the FireWire >>> connected, I also have the power cable connected. >>> >>> Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend >>> who >>> installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being: >>> The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first >>> installed. >>> >>> >>> Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was >>> when >>> I upgraded to Lion. However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, >>> today, I >>> discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been >>> before >>> the upgrade. >>> >>> After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in >>> heat went away. >>> >>> So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery >>> drain >>> confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before >>> upgrading/installing Lion. >>> >>> F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
The message I replied to does not refer to turning off screen curtain. He wrote "On the Mac, restarting your macbook will turn back up screen brightness. ." On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:24 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > Ricardo did not say that, he said if you turn the screen curtain on it will > turn itself off after a reboot, this behaves the same way on iOS devices too. > On 12 Aug 2011, at 18:19, Kristyn Leigh wrote: > >> That's not true on my Macbook air running Lion. If I set the screen >> brightness to 0, it stays there when I reboot. >> On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:17 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Right, >>> >>> Its not possible to turn off the display as it were, without locking the >>> device. I guess they figured, why would anyone want such a feature. You >>> would have a lot of paniced sighted folks. lol. On the Mac, restarting >>> your macbook will turn back up screen brightness. But there's no intuitive >>> way to restart an iPhone without sight unless your a voiceover user. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >>> www.mobileaccess.org >>> >>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Chris Moore wrote: >>> If only we could turn the screen brightness down to complete zero on the iPhone too (it is still visible with the brightness way down). On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:06, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > Just like to add to this, If using a macbook, turning on screen curtain > is not a substitute for turning down screen brightness in regards to > battery conservation. If all you do is turn on screen curtain, your > display is still blazing away just with well, a black curtain over it. > lol. > > hth > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor wrote: > >> Hello Johnny, >> >> You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by >> triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad. >> >> Mark >> On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> How does one enable and disable the screen curtain? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Johnny >>> >>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>> Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed more than once that my keyboard's backlight is completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen curtain. It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users Hello Everyone, After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope will prove to be useful to you. F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always sitting on my desk when running Lion. Additionally, when I have the FireWire connected, I also have the power cable connected. Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend who installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being: The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first installed. Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was when I upgraded to Lion. However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, today, I discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before the upgrade. After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in heat went away. So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before upgrading/installing Lion. F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively. Mark -- You received thi
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
Or should I say, that is what he implied, he's a smart cookie :) On 12 Aug 2011, at 18:24, Chris Moore wrote: > Ricardo did not say that, he said if you turn the screen curtain on it will > turn itself off after a reboot, this behaves the same way on iOS devices too. > On 12 Aug 2011, at 18:19, Kristyn Leigh wrote: > >> That's not true on my Macbook air running Lion. If I set the screen >> brightness to 0, it stays there when I reboot. >> On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:17 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Right, >>> >>> Its not possible to turn off the display as it were, without locking the >>> device. I guess they figured, why would anyone want such a feature. You >>> would have a lot of paniced sighted folks. lol. On the Mac, restarting >>> your macbook will turn back up screen brightness. But there's no intuitive >>> way to restart an iPhone without sight unless your a voiceover user. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >>> www.mobileaccess.org >>> >>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Chris Moore wrote: >>> If only we could turn the screen brightness down to complete zero on the iPhone too (it is still visible with the brightness way down). On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:06, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > Just like to add to this, If using a macbook, turning on screen curtain > is not a substitute for turning down screen brightness in regards to > battery conservation. If all you do is turn on screen curtain, your > display is still blazing away just with well, a black curtain over it. > lol. > > hth > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor wrote: > >> Hello Johnny, >> >> You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by >> triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad. >> >> Mark >> On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> How does one enable and disable the screen curtain? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Johnny >>> >>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>> Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed more than once that my keyboard's backlight is completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen curtain. It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users Hello Everyone, After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope will prove to be useful to you. F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always sitting on my desk when running Lion. Additionally, when I have the FireWire connected, I also have the power cable connected. Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend who installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being: The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first installed. Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was when I upgraded to Lion. However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, today, I discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before the upgrade. After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in heat went away. So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before upgrading/installing Lion. F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
Ricardo did not say that, he said if you turn the screen curtain on it will turn itself off after a reboot, this behaves the same way on iOS devices too. On 12 Aug 2011, at 18:19, Kristyn Leigh wrote: > That's not true on my Macbook air running Lion. If I set the screen > brightness to 0, it stays there when I reboot. > On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:17 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Right, >> >> Its not possible to turn off the display as it were, without locking the >> device. I guess they figured, why would anyone want such a feature. You >> would have a lot of paniced sighted folks. lol. On the Mac, restarting >> your macbook will turn back up screen brightness. But there's no intuitive >> way to restart an iPhone without sight unless your a voiceover user. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Chris Moore wrote: >> >>> If only we could turn the screen brightness down to complete zero on the >>> iPhone too (it is still visible with the brightness way down). >>> On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:06, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> Hi, Just like to add to this, If using a macbook, turning on screen curtain is not a substitute for turning down screen brightness in regards to battery conservation. If all you do is turn on screen curtain, your display is still blazing away just with well, a black curtain over it. lol. hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor wrote: > Hello Johnny, > > You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by > triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad. > > Mark > On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> How does one enable and disable the screen curtain? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Johnny >> >> On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: >> >>> Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed >>> more than once that my keyboard's backlight is >>> completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent >>> definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. >>> Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen >>> curtain. >>> It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. >>> Missy >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor >>> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat >>> generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of >>> battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope >>> will >>> prove to be useful to you. >>> >>> F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire >>> drive >>> and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always >>> sitting >>> on my desk when running Lion. Additionally, when I have the FireWire >>> connected, I also have the power cable connected. >>> >>> Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend >>> who >>> installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being: >>> The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first >>> installed. >>> >>> >>> Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was >>> when >>> I upgraded to Lion. However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, >>> today, I >>> discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been >>> before >>> the upgrade. >>> >>> After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in >>> heat went away. >>> >>> So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery >>> drain >>> confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before >>> upgrading/installing Lion. >>> >>> F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?h
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
That's not true on my Macbook air running Lion. If I set the screen brightness to 0, it stays there when I reboot. On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:17 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Right, > > Its not possible to turn off the display as it were, without locking the > device. I guess they figured, why would anyone want such a feature. You > would have a lot of paniced sighted folks. lol. On the Mac, restarting your > macbook will turn back up screen brightness. But there's no intuitive way to > restart an iPhone without sight unless your a voiceover user. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > >> If only we could turn the screen brightness down to complete zero on the >> iPhone too (it is still visible with the brightness way down). >> On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:06, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Just like to add to this, If using a macbook, turning on screen curtain is >>> not a substitute for turning down screen brightness in regards to battery >>> conservation. If all you do is turn on screen curtain, your display is >>> still blazing away just with well, a black curtain over it. lol. >>> >>> hth >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >>> www.mobileaccess.org >>> >>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor wrote: >>> Hello Johnny, You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad. Mark On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote: > Hi! > > How does one enable and disable the screen curtain? > > Thanks, > > Johnny > > On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > >> Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed >> more than once that my keyboard's backlight is >> completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent >> definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. >> Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen >> curtain. >> It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. >> Missy >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor >> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat >> generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of >> battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope >> will >> prove to be useful to you. >> >> F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive >> and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always >> sitting >> on my desk when running Lion. Additionally, when I have the FireWire >> connected, I also have the power cable connected. >> >> Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend >> who >> installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being: >> The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first >> installed. >> >> >> Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was >> when >> I upgraded to Lion. However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, >> today, I >> discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before >> the upgrade. >> >> After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in >> heat went away. >> >> So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain >> confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before >> upgrading/installing Lion. >> >> F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively. >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
Ok, And you said from the last 3 podcasts including Apple to the core 3 right? I will start digging around my hard drive for them now. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Aug 12, 2011, at 4:35 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > Ricardo, you are too damn sensible! I think logical is your middle name young > man :) > > PS I still want ya bonus beats from those podcasts > On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:17, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Right, >> >> Its not possible to turn off the display as it were, without locking the >> device. I guess they figured, why would anyone want such a feature. You >> would have a lot of paniced sighted folks. lol. On the Mac, restarting >> your macbook will turn back up screen brightness. But there's no intuitive >> way to restart an iPhone without sight unless your a voiceover user. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Chris Moore wrote: >> >>> If only we could turn the screen brightness down to complete zero on the >>> iPhone too (it is still visible with the brightness way down). >>> On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:06, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> Hi, Just like to add to this, If using a macbook, turning on screen curtain is not a substitute for turning down screen brightness in regards to battery conservation. If all you do is turn on screen curtain, your display is still blazing away just with well, a black curtain over it. lol. hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor wrote: > Hello Johnny, > > You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by > triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad. > > Mark > On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> How does one enable and disable the screen curtain? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Johnny >> >> On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: >> >>> Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed >>> more than once that my keyboard's backlight is >>> completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent >>> definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. >>> Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen >>> curtain. >>> It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. >>> Missy >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor >>> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat >>> generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of >>> battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope >>> will >>> prove to be useful to you. >>> >>> F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire >>> drive >>> and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always >>> sitting >>> on my desk when running Lion. Additionally, when I have the FireWire >>> connected, I also have the power cable connected. >>> >>> Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend >>> who >>> installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being: >>> The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first >>> installed. >>> >>> >>> Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was >>> when >>> I upgraded to Lion. However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, >>> today, I >>> discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been >>> before >>> the upgrade. >>> >>> After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in >>> heat went away. >>> >>> So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery >>> drain >>> confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before >>> upgrading/installing Lion. >>> >>> F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
Ricardo, you are too damn sensible! I think logical is your middle name young man :) PS I still want ya bonus beats from those podcasts On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:17, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Right, > > Its not possible to turn off the display as it were, without locking the > device. I guess they figured, why would anyone want such a feature. You > would have a lot of paniced sighted folks. lol. On the Mac, restarting your > macbook will turn back up screen brightness. But there's no intuitive way to > restart an iPhone without sight unless your a voiceover user. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > >> If only we could turn the screen brightness down to complete zero on the >> iPhone too (it is still visible with the brightness way down). >> On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:06, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Just like to add to this, If using a macbook, turning on screen curtain is >>> not a substitute for turning down screen brightness in regards to battery >>> conservation. If all you do is turn on screen curtain, your display is >>> still blazing away just with well, a black curtain over it. lol. >>> >>> hth >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >>> www.mobileaccess.org >>> >>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor wrote: >>> Hello Johnny, You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad. Mark On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote: > Hi! > > How does one enable and disable the screen curtain? > > Thanks, > > Johnny > > On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > >> Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed >> more than once that my keyboard's backlight is >> completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent >> definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. >> Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen >> curtain. >> It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. >> Missy >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor >> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat >> generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of >> battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope >> will >> prove to be useful to you. >> >> F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive >> and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always >> sitting >> on my desk when running Lion. Additionally, when I have the FireWire >> connected, I also have the power cable connected. >> >> Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend >> who >> installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being: >> The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first >> installed. >> >> >> Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was >> when >> I upgraded to Lion. However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, >> today, I >> discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before >> the upgrade. >> >> After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in >> heat went away. >> >> So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain >> confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before >> upgrading/installing Lion. >> >> F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively. >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
Right, Its not possible to turn off the display as it were, without locking the device. I guess they figured, why would anyone want such a feature. You would have a lot of paniced sighted folks. lol. On the Mac, restarting your macbook will turn back up screen brightness. But there's no intuitive way to restart an iPhone without sight unless your a voiceover user. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > If only we could turn the screen brightness down to complete zero on the > iPhone too (it is still visible with the brightness way down). > On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:06, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Just like to add to this, If using a macbook, turning on screen curtain is >> not a substitute for turning down screen brightness in regards to battery >> conservation. If all you do is turn on screen curtain, your display is >> still blazing away just with well, a black curtain over it. lol. >> >> hth >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor wrote: >> >>> Hello Johnny, >>> >>> You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by >>> triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad. >>> >>> Mark >>> On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote: >>> Hi! How does one enable and disable the screen curtain? Thanks, Johnny On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed more > than once that my keyboard's backlight is > completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent > definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. > Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen > curtain. > It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. > Missy > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor > Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users > > Hello Everyone, > > After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat > generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of > battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope > will > prove to be useful to you. > > F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive > and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always > sitting > on my desk when running Lion. Additionally, when I have the FireWire > connected, I also have the power cable connected. > > Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend > who > installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being: > The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first > installed. > > > Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was > when > I upgraded to Lion. However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, > today, I > discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before > the upgrade. > > After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in > heat went away. > > So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain > confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before > upgrading/installing Lion. > > F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively. > > Mark > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this gro
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
If only we could turn the screen brightness down to complete zero on the iPhone too (it is still visible with the brightness way down). On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:06, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > Just like to add to this, If using a macbook, turning on screen curtain is > not a substitute for turning down screen brightness in regards to battery > conservation. If all you do is turn on screen curtain, your display is still > blazing away just with well, a black curtain over it. lol. > > hth > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor wrote: > >> Hello Johnny, >> >> You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by >> triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad. >> >> Mark >> On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> How does one enable and disable the screen curtain? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Johnny >>> >>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>> Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed more than once that my keyboard's backlight is completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen curtain. It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users Hello Everyone, After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope will prove to be useful to you. F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always sitting on my desk when running Lion. Additionally, when I have the FireWire connected, I also have the power cable connected. Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend who installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being: The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first installed. Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was when I upgraded to Lion. However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, today, I discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before the upgrade. After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in heat went away. So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before upgrading/installing Lion. F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "M
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
Hi, Just like to add to this, If using a macbook, turning on screen curtain is not a substitute for turning down screen brightness in regards to battery conservation. If all you do is turn on screen curtain, your display is still blazing away just with well, a black curtain over it. lol. hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor wrote: > Hello Johnny, > > You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by > triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad. > > Mark > On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> How does one enable and disable the screen curtain? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Johnny >> >> On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: >> >>> Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed more >>> than once that my keyboard's backlight is >>> completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent >>> definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. >>> Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen >>> curtain. >>> It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. >>> Missy >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor >>> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat >>> generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of >>> battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope will >>> prove to be useful to you. >>> >>> F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive >>> and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always sitting >>> on my desk when running Lion. Additionally, when I have the FireWire >>> connected, I also have the power cable connected. >>> >>> Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend who >>> installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being: >>> The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first installed. >>> >>> >>> Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was when >>> I upgraded to Lion. However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, today, I >>> discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before >>> the upgrade. >>> >>> After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in >>> heat went away. >>> >>> So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain >>> confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before >>> upgrading/installing Lion. >>> >>> F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
Hello Johnny, You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad. Mark On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote: > Hi! > > How does one enable and disable the screen curtain? > > Thanks, > > Johnny > > On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > >> Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed more >> than once that my keyboard's backlight is >> completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent >> definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. >> Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen >> curtain. >> It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. >> Missy >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor >> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat >> generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of >> battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope will >> prove to be useful to you. >> >> F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive >> and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always sitting >> on my desk when running Lion. Additionally, when I have the FireWire >> connected, I also have the power cable connected. >> >> Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend who >> installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being: >> The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first installed. >> >> >> Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was when >> I upgraded to Lion. However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, today, I >> discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before >> the upgrade. >> >> After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in >> heat went away. >> >> So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain >> confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before >> upgrading/installing Lion. >> >> F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively. >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
To turn on and off the screen curtain, you press the vo keys plus shift and f11. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Chilelli Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users Hi! How does one enable and disable the screen curtain? Thanks, Johnny On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed more > than once that my keyboard's backlight is > completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent > definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. > Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen > curtain. > It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. > Missy > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor > Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users > > Hello Everyone, > > After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat > generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of > battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope will > prove to be useful to you. > > F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive > and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always sitting > on my desk when running Lion. Additionally, when I have the FireWire > connected, I also have the power cable connected. > > Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend who > installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being: > The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first installed. > > > Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was when > I upgraded to Lion. However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, today, I > discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before > the upgrade. > > After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in > heat went away. > > So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain > confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before > upgrading/installing Lion. > > F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively. > > Mark > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
Hi! How does one enable and disable the screen curtain? Thanks, Johnny On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed more > than once that my keyboard's backlight is > completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent > definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. > Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen > curtain. > It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. > Missy > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor > Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users > > Hello Everyone, > > After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat > generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of > battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope will > prove to be useful to you. > > F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive > and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always sitting > on my desk when running Lion. Additionally, when I have the FireWire > connected, I also have the power cable connected. > > Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend who > installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being: > The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first installed. > > > Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was when > I upgraded to Lion. However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, today, I > discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before > the upgrade. > > After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in > heat went away. > > So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain > confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before > upgrading/installing Lion. > > F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively. > > Mark > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
Odd. I've been running this all day off battery power and for me this thing hasn't gotten hot or lost battery power at all. I never use Ical unless I have to. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
Hello, I am not sure what I am looking for when you said to check my power supply. If you mean it might not work, well, it is definitely working. It charged my battery in roughly 2 hours which is what it has always done. As for Activity Monitor, the 2 processes that seems to peak the highest are VoiceOver and Kernel_task. They both peak around 5 to 10 percent, but not above it. I think it has something to do with disc activity. So I clicked on Disc Activity, but can't make any sense of it at the moment. Will keep looking. On Jul 25, 2011, at 6:41 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > Hi: > Have you checked your power supply. I had the same issue, and my power supply > was bad. > On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:36 PM, Shen wrote: > >> Unfortunately, I know this is not the issue. It would make things easier. >> I know this because up until a couple of weeks ago, I didn't know that my >> keyboard brightness was set to maximum. With no light perception, how can I >> know? >> And my Mac still gave me 10 hours of battery life with SL. And now with >> Lion, the bottom feels warmer much more quickly than it did with SL. >> So I know this is not the issue. >> I am quite sure that there is much more disc activity than before. I just >> don't know if it is Spotlight, or something else. >> >> >> On Jul 24, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: >> >>> Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed more >>> than once that my keyboard's backlight is >>> completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent >>> definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. >>> Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen >>> curtain. >>> It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. >>> Missy >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor >>> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat >>> generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of >>> battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope will >>> prove to be useful to you. >>> >>> F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive >>> and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always sitting >>> on my desk when running Lion. Additionally, when I have the FireWire >>> connected, I also have the power cable connected. >>> >>> Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend who >>> installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being: >>> The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first installed. >>> >>> >>> Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was when >>> I upgraded to Lion. However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, today, I >>> discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before >>> the upgrade. >>> >>> After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in >>> heat went away. >>> >>> So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain >>> confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before >>> upgrading/installing Lion. >>> >>> F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+uns
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
Hi: Have you checked your power supply. I had the same issue, and my power supply was bad. On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:36 PM, Shen wrote: > Unfortunately, I know this is not the issue. It would make things easier. > I know this because up until a couple of weeks ago, I didn't know that my > keyboard brightness was set to maximum. With no light perception, how can I > know? > And my Mac still gave me 10 hours of battery life with SL. And now with Lion, > the bottom feels warmer much more quickly than it did with SL. > So I know this is not the issue. > I am quite sure that there is much more disc activity than before. I just > don't know if it is Spotlight, or something else. > > > On Jul 24, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > >> Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed more >> than once that my keyboard's backlight is >> completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent >> definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. >> Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen >> curtain. >> It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. >> Missy >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor >> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat >> generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of >> battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope will >> prove to be useful to you. >> >> F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive >> and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always sitting >> on my desk when running Lion. Additionally, when I have the FireWire >> connected, I also have the power cable connected. >> >> Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend who >> installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being: >> The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first installed. >> >> >> Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was when >> I upgraded to Lion. However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, today, I >> discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before >> the upgrade. >> >> After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in >> heat went away. >> >> So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain >> confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before >> upgrading/installing Lion. >> >> F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively. >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
Thanks! Good to know. I'm definitely waiting for an update or two before I give Lion another chance. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Watson Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 8:12 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users Hi, In part yes it would. iCal actually runs as a daemon process and unless you kill the process then it is always running in memory. There are ways to do this but it's not recommended. I myself am waiting for the updates. Regards, Keith Watson On Jul 25, 2011, at 6:49 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > Just out of curiosity, would that particular bug occur even if one isn't > actively running ICal? I'll be staying tuned to the > list to see how this issue resolves itself. Hopefully it will be fixed fairly > soon, but for now, I'm happy I went back to SL. > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Watson > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:27 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users > > Sean, > > I believe that this will occur with any of the Mac notebooks. I saw an > article about there being an infinite loop associated > with iCal that is causing this issue. Apple is aware of it and I would expect > an update either this week or next. I have no > inside information on this it's just speculation at this point. But it would > be very unlikely that an issue of this magnitude > would not be addressed pretty quickly. > > Regards, > > Keith Watson > On Jul 24, 2011, at 11:29 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: > >> I'd like to know if the increase of heat and decrease in battery life when >> running Lion also effects Standard MacBook > users. If so, then I know what I should look out for. When I was using SL, my > battery ran for about 5 or 6 hours depending on > what I was doing. So it'll be interesting tomorrow to see what happens when I > take it off the charger. Mind you, I installed > Lion directly on the hard drive. >> >> Shawn >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
Hi, In part yes it would. iCal actually runs as a daemon process and unless you kill the process then it is always running in memory. There are ways to do this but it's not recommended. I myself am waiting for the updates. Regards, Keith Watson On Jul 25, 2011, at 6:49 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > Just out of curiosity, would that particular bug occur even if one isn't > actively running ICal? I'll be staying tuned to the > list to see how this issue resolves itself. Hopefully it will be fixed fairly > soon, but for now, I'm happy I went back to SL. > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Watson > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:27 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users > > Sean, > > I believe that this will occur with any of the Mac notebooks. I saw an > article about there being an infinite loop associated > with iCal that is causing this issue. Apple is aware of it and I would expect > an update either this week or next. I have no > inside information on this it's just speculation at this point. But it would > be very unlikely that an issue of this magnitude > would not be addressed pretty quickly. > > Regards, > > Keith Watson > On Jul 24, 2011, at 11:29 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: > >> I'd like to know if the increase of heat and decrease in battery life when >> running Lion also effects Standard MacBook > users. If so, then I know what I should look out for. When I was using SL, my > battery ran for about 5 or 6 hours depending on > what I was doing. So it'll be interesting tomorrow to see what happens when I > take it off the charger. Mind you, I installed > Lion directly on the hard drive. >> >> Shawn >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
Just out of curiosity, would that particular bug occur even if one isn't actively running ICal? I'll be staying tuned to the list to see how this issue resolves itself. Hopefully it will be fixed fairly soon, but for now, I'm happy I went back to SL. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Watson Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:27 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users Sean, I believe that this will occur with any of the Mac notebooks. I saw an article about there being an infinite loop associated with iCal that is causing this issue. Apple is aware of it and I would expect an update either this week or next. I have no inside information on this it's just speculation at this point. But it would be very unlikely that an issue of this magnitude would not be addressed pretty quickly. Regards, Keith Watson On Jul 24, 2011, at 11:29 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: > I'd like to know if the increase of heat and decrease in battery life when > running Lion also effects Standard MacBook users. If so, then I know what I should look out for. When I was using SL, my battery ran for about 5 or 6 hours depending on what I was doing. So it'll be interesting tomorrow to see what happens when I take it off the charger. Mind you, I installed Lion directly on the hard drive. > > Shawn > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
Sean, I believe that this will occur with any of the Mac notebooks. I saw an article about there being an infinite loop associated with iCal that is causing this issue. Apple is aware of it and I would expect an update either this week or next. I have no inside information on this it's just speculation at this point. But it would be very unlikely that an issue of this magnitude would not be addressed pretty quickly. Regards, Keith Watson On Jul 24, 2011, at 11:29 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: > I'd like to know if the increase of heat and decrease in battery life when > running Lion also effects Standard MacBook users. If so, then I know what I > should look out for. When I was using SL, my battery ran for about 5 or 6 > hours depending on what I was doing. So it'll be interesting tomorrow to see > what happens when I take it off the charger. Mind you, I installed Lion > directly on the hard drive. > > Shawn > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
Have you looked in activity monitor to see if any processes are using a lot of cpu? On Jul 24, 2011, at 11:36 PM, Shen wrote: > Unfortunately, I know this is not the issue. It would make things easier. > I know this because up until a couple of weeks ago, I didn't know that my > keyboard brightness was set to maximum. With no light perception, how can I > know? > And my Mac still gave me 10 hours of battery life with SL. And now with Lion, > the bottom feels warmer much more quickly than it did with SL. > So I know this is not the issue. > I am quite sure that there is much more disc activity than before. I just > don't know if it is Spotlight, or something else. > > > On Jul 24, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > >> Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed more >> than once that my keyboard's backlight is >> completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent >> definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. >> Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen >> curtain. >> It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. >> Missy >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor >> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat >> generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of >> battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope will >> prove to be useful to you. >> >> F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive >> and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always sitting >> on my desk when running Lion. Additionally, when I have the FireWire >> connected, I also have the power cable connected. >> >> Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend who >> installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being: >> The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first installed. >> >> >> Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was when >> I upgraded to Lion. However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, today, I >> discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before >> the upgrade. >> >> After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in >> heat went away. >> >> So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain >> confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before >> upgrading/installing Lion. >> >> F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively. >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
Hi, I'm using a mid 2010 MBP and when I set the backlight to 0% (which I take to mean off) in system prefs/keyboard under the keyboard, when I go back in there the slider is set back to 100% which I take as never turn off the backlight. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Justin Thornton wrote: hi I turned my backlight all the way down thanks for pointing this out, it really helped a lot On Jul 24, 2011, at 8:20 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote: > Hi, > When i hit f5 and f6 it bonks at me. So not sure why. > On 2011-07-24, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > >> Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed more >> than once that my keyboard's backlight is >> completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent >> definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. >> Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen >> curtain. >> It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. >> Missy >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor >> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat >> generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of >> battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope will >> prove to be useful to you. >> >> F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive >> and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always sitting >> on my desk when running Lion. Additionally, when I have the FireWire >> connected, I also have the power cable connected. >> >> Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend who >> installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being: >> The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first installed. >> >> >> Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was when >> I upgraded to Lion. However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, today, I >> discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before >> the upgrade. >> >> After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in >> heat went away. >> >> So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain >> confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before >> upgrading/installing Lion. >> >> F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively. >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
hi I turned my backlight all the way down thanks for pointing this out, it really helped a lot On Jul 24, 2011, at 8:20 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote: > Hi, > When i hit f5 and f6 it bonks at me. So not sure why. > On 2011-07-24, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > >> Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed more >> than once that my keyboard's backlight is >> completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent >> definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. >> Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen >> curtain. >> It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. >> Missy >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor >> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat >> generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of >> battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope will >> prove to be useful to you. >> >> F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive >> and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always sitting >> on my desk when running Lion. Additionally, when I have the FireWire >> connected, I also have the power cable connected. >> >> Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend who >> installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being: >> The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first installed. >> >> >> Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was when >> I upgraded to Lion. However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, today, I >> discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before >> the upgrade. >> >> After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in >> heat went away. >> >> So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain >> confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before >> upgrading/installing Lion. >> >> F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively. >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
Unfortunately, I know this is not the issue. It would make things easier. I know this because up until a couple of weeks ago, I didn't know that my keyboard brightness was set to maximum. With no light perception, how can I know? And my Mac still gave me 10 hours of battery life with SL. And now with Lion, the bottom feels warmer much more quickly than it did with SL. So I know this is not the issue. I am quite sure that there is much more disc activity than before. I just don't know if it is Spotlight, or something else. On Jul 24, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed more > than once that my keyboard's backlight is > completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent > definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. > Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen > curtain. > It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. > Missy > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor > Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users > > Hello Everyone, > > After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat > generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of > battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope will > prove to be useful to you. > > F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive > and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always sitting > on my desk when running Lion. Additionally, when I have the FireWire > connected, I also have the power cable connected. > > Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend who > installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being: > The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first installed. > > > Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was when > I upgraded to Lion. However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, today, I > discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before > the upgrade. > > After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in > heat went away. > > So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain > confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before > upgrading/installing Lion. > > F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively. > > Mark > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
I'd like to know if the increase of heat and decrease in battery life when running Lion also effects Standard MacBook users. If so, then I know what I should look out for. When I was using SL, my battery ran for about 5 or 6 hours depending on what I was doing. So it'll be interesting tomorrow to see what happens when I take it off the charger. Mind you, I installed Lion directly on the hard drive. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
Hi Matt, Odd. When I use those keys VO tells me the brightness is getting dimmer, though it never says its as low as it goes. I like the handling of screen brightness in which it reads percentages, that's easier for me to comprehend I think. Best, Zack. On Jul 24, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote: > That's correct and when I hit those keys it doesn't say or do anything. > On 2011-07-24, at 8:23 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi, >> My guess is that you have your keyboard set to use the function keys for >> software functions. You need to use fn-f5 and f6 in this case. >> Hope this helps, >> Zack. >> On Jul 24, 2011, at 5:20 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> When i hit f5 and f6 it bonks at me. So not sure why. >>> On 2011-07-24, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>> Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed more than once that my keyboard's backlight is completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen curtain. It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users Hello Everyone, After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope will prove to be useful to you. F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always sitting on my desk when running Lion. Additionally, when I have the FireWire connected, I also have the power cable connected. Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend who installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being: The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first installed. Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was when I upgraded to Lion. However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, today, I discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before the upgrade. After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in heat went away. So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before upgrading/installing Lion. F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this gr
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
That's correct and when I hit those keys it doesn't say or do anything. On 2011-07-24, at 8:23 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi, > My guess is that you have your keyboard set to use the function keys for > software functions. You need to use fn-f5 and f6 in this case. > Hope this helps, > Zack. > On Jul 24, 2011, at 5:20 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote: > >> Hi, >> When i hit f5 and f6 it bonks at me. So not sure why. >> On 2011-07-24, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: >> >>> Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed more >>> than once that my keyboard's backlight is >>> completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent >>> definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. >>> Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen >>> curtain. >>> It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. >>> Missy >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor >>> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat >>> generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of >>> battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope will >>> prove to be useful to you. >>> >>> F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive >>> and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always sitting >>> on my desk when running Lion. Additionally, when I have the FireWire >>> connected, I also have the power cable connected. >>> >>> Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend who >>> installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being: >>> The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first installed. >>> >>> >>> Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was when >>> I upgraded to Lion. However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, today, I >>> discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before >>> the upgrade. >>> >>> After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in >>> heat went away. >>> >>> So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain >>> confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before >>> upgrading/installing Lion. >>> >>> F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
Hi, My guess is that you have your keyboard set to use the function keys for software functions. You need to use fn-f5 and f6 in this case. Hope this helps, Zack. On Jul 24, 2011, at 5:20 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote: > Hi, > When i hit f5 and f6 it bonks at me. So not sure why. > On 2011-07-24, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > >> Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed more >> than once that my keyboard's backlight is >> completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent >> definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. >> Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen >> curtain. >> It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. >> Missy >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor >> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat >> generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of >> battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope will >> prove to be useful to you. >> >> F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive >> and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always sitting >> on my desk when running Lion. Additionally, when I have the FireWire >> connected, I also have the power cable connected. >> >> Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend who >> installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being: >> The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first installed. >> >> >> Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was when >> I upgraded to Lion. However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, today, I >> discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before >> the upgrade. >> >> After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in >> heat went away. >> >> So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain >> confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before >> upgrading/installing Lion. >> >> F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively. >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
Hi, When i hit f5 and f6 it bonks at me. So not sure why. On 2011-07-24, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed more > than once that my keyboard's backlight is > completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent > definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. > Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen > curtain. > It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. > Missy > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor > Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users > > Hello Everyone, > > After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat > generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of > battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope will > prove to be useful to you. > > F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive > and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always sitting > on my desk when running Lion. Additionally, when I have the FireWire > connected, I also have the power cable connected. > > Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend who > installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being: > The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first installed. > > > Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was when > I upgraded to Lion. However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, today, I > discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before > the upgrade. > > After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in > heat went away. > > So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain > confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before > upgrading/installing Lion. > > F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively. > > Mark > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed more than once that my keyboard's backlight is completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen curtain. It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users Hello Everyone, After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope will prove to be useful to you. F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always sitting on my desk when running Lion. Additionally, when I have the FireWire connected, I also have the power cable connected. Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend who installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being: The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first installed. Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was when I upgraded to Lion. However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, today, I discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before the upgrade. After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in heat went away. So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before upgrading/installing Lion. F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
