Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

2015-04-05 Thread Pamela Francis
Hello Robert,
If and when you get time and get back to your Mac, please send me the proper 
info off list. I don't want to generate more issues other then what's pertinent 
to the question. Also, as I am not familiar with how to run a script if you can 
give fairly detailed instructions I would appreciate it, I can follow them, yet 
can't stray too far from them as I don't know what I'm doing other than 
verbatim what I'm told. Again thanks to everyone.

Pam Francis

On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Robert Cole mr.robertc...@icloud.com wrote:

There is a mute script
To choose I've been using it for months
I will give you more info on how to find it when I get back on my Mac

Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 I'm certainly thankful for all the feedback my question generated. Chris is 
 correct, I did not want to completely disable voiceover. However given that 
 was the choice I had at the time along with creating a keystroke, I checked 
 out creating the keystroke versus disabling voiceover at the time, disabling 
 it was quicker. It would seem to me that there should be a district native to 
 voiceover muting versus having to create one. I don't understand why that was 
 an oversight on Apple's part. As I stated in my first email, I did hit the 
 control key to shut it up yesterday. I would also want the opportunity to 
 take notes. That point was also mentioned. Healthy discussions like this, are 
 the reason for these lists; allowing all of us to learn from each other. 
 Thanks again.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Robert,
  
 She doesn't want to completely disable Voiceover.  She just wants to mute it. 
  Your solution certainly would work, but it might be overkill.  The thing is, 
 if she needed to command+tab to another window, say to take notes or 
 something, then she'd still have no speech.  Great suggestion, but, I'm just 
 not so sure it would be the most comprable.
  
 Chris.
  
 - Original Message -
 From: ROBERT CARTER
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 9:03 AM
 Subject: Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover
 
 Hi,
 
 You can simply press command+f5 to toggle VoiceOver off and toggle it back on 
 with command+f5 when the service is over.
 
 Robert Carter
 
 
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi everyone,
 I plan to listen to a continuation of the services I was listening to  
 yesterday,  this morning. Prior to going to the site, I will check out the 
 suggestions given to me here to see if they work before I allow Alex to be 
 disrespectful again. I'm truly surprised there is not a native keystroke to 
 mmute voiceover as there is a trackpad gesture. I feel an email going to 
 Apple accessibility. Let's hope it doesn't take them six updates to get it 
 done.   
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Is there no actual keystroke to mute VO by default then? 
 
 
 
 On 5 Apr 2015, at 13:06, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 If you have a braille display, you can use space with M to mute voiceover.
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 6:48 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 You can also use the keyboard commander. For example, I have it set so 
 option-m mutes sounds and speech. To do this:
 
 * Open the VoiceOver Utility and choose Commanders from the Categories 
 table.
 * Select the Keyboard Commander tab, be sure the commander is on by 
 checking the checkbox, and move past the table to the Add button. Activate 
 that button.
 * You will be placed on a text field, even if VoiceOver doesn't tell you 
 so. Press the key to be used (such as M), then vo-right to the menu button.
 * In that menu is a list of commands, sorted into categories. I believe 
 the item you want, Mute VoiceOver, is in the Sounds submenu. Once you find 
 it, hit enter.
 * Hit option-m to make sure things worked (it's a toggle, so hitting it 
 again will bring VO back). If it worked, you can close the Utility. If 
 not, let the list know and we'll try to figure out what happened.
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 5:16 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi Pam. If I remember correctly, with track pad commander on, you could 
 double tap with three fingers on the trackpad to mute Voiceover just like 
 double tapping with three fingers to mute it on an iPhone. If I'm wrong 
 about this, someone correct me.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White Macbook
 - Original Message - From: Pamela Francis 
 gypsykitt...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 1:12 AM
 Subject: Keystroke form muting voiceover
 
 
 Hi everyone,
 I was attempting to listen to a service over the Internet this afternoon. 
 In so doing Alex continually seemed to want to give me every notification 
 I would never have gotten had I been doing something I

Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

2015-04-05 Thread Robert Cole
It's my fault for replying without reading the entire thread  but Alex already 
explain how to do it


Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 5, 2015, at 8:27 PM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello Robert,
 If and when you get time and get back to your Mac, please send me the proper 
 info off list. I don't want to generate more issues other then what's 
 pertinent to the question. Also, as I am not familiar with how to run a 
 script if you can give fairly detailed instructions I would appreciate it, I 
 can follow them, yet can't stray too far from them as I don't know what I'm 
 doing other than verbatim what I'm told. Again thanks to everyone.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Robert Cole mr.robertc...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 There is a mute script
 To choose I've been using it for months
 I will give you more info on how to find it when I get back on my Mac
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 I'm certainly thankful for all the feedback my question generated. Chris is 
 correct, I did not want to completely disable voiceover. However given that 
 was the choice I had at the time along with creating a keystroke, I checked 
 out creating the keystroke versus disabling voiceover at the time, disabling 
 it was quicker. It would seem to me that there should be a district native 
 to voiceover muting versus having to create one. I don't understand why that 
 was an oversight on Apple's part. As I stated in my first email, I did hit 
 the control key to shut it up yesterday. I would also want the opportunity 
 to take notes. That point was also mentioned. Healthy discussions like this, 
 are the reason for these lists; allowing all of us to learn from each other. 
 Thanks again.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Robert,
  
 She doesn't want to completely disable Voiceover.  She just wants to mute 
 it.  Your solution certainly would work, but it might be overkill.  The 
 thing is, if she needed to command+tab to another window, say to take notes 
 or something, then she'd still have no speech.  Great suggestion, but, I'm 
 just not so sure it would be the most comprable.
  
 Chris.
  
 - Original Message -
 From: ROBERT CARTER
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 9:03 AM
 Subject: Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover
 
 Hi,
 
 You can simply press command+f5 to toggle VoiceOver off and toggle it back 
 on with command+f5 when the service is over.
 
 Robert Carter
 
 
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi everyone,
 I plan to listen to a continuation of the services I was listening to 
 yesterday,  this morning. Prior to going to the site, I will check out the 
 suggestions given to me here to see if they work before I allow Alex to be 
 disrespectful again. I'm truly surprised there is not a native keystroke to 
 mmute voiceover as there is a trackpad gesture. I feel an email going to 
 Apple accessibility. Let's hope it doesn't take them six updates to get it 
 done.   
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Is there no actual keystroke to mute VO by default then? 
 
 
 
 On 5 Apr 2015, at 13:06, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 If you have a braille display, you can use space with M to mute voiceover.
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 6:48 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 You can also use the keyboard commander. For example, I have it set so 
 option-m mutes sounds and speech. To do this:
 
 * Open the VoiceOver Utility and choose Commanders from the Categories 
 table.
 * Select the Keyboard Commander tab, be sure the commander is on by 
 checking the checkbox, and move past the table to the Add button. 
 Activate that button.
 * You will be placed on a text field, even if VoiceOver doesn't tell you 
 so. Press the key to be used (such as M), then vo-right to the menu 
 button.
 * In that menu is a list of commands, sorted into categories. I believe 
 the item you want, Mute VoiceOver, is in the Sounds submenu. Once you 
 find it, hit enter.
 * Hit option-m to make sure things worked (it's a toggle, so hitting it 
 again will bring VO back). If it worked, you can close the Utility. If 
 not, let the list know and we'll try to figure out what happened.
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 5:16 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi Pam. If I remember correctly, with track pad commander on, you could 
 double tap with three fingers on the trackpad to mute Voiceover just 
 like double tapping with three fingers to mute it on an iPhone. If I'm 
 wrong about this, someone correct me.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White Macbook
 - Original Message - From: Pamela Francis 
 gypsykitt...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 1:12 AM
 Subject: Keystroke form muting voiceover
 
 
 Hi

Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

2015-04-05 Thread Pamela Francis
Hi Alex,
Not being familiar with scripts myself, I don't know what the limitations or 
benefits are  either way. However I did take note of everyone's suggestion 
within this thread. I truly appreciate it.

Pam Francis

On Apr 5, 2015, at 9:13 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

If all you're after is muting speech and VoiceOver sounds, the mute command 
that has already been discussed will do the job. I'm not sure what a script 
could offer over this, unless it is to mute for a set duration or some other 
feature? I'd be interested in hearing what the script can do over the standard 
command. Note that you'd have to assign the script to a keystroke just as you 
would the mute command, so you wouldn't save anything there.
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 9:27 PM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello Robert,
 If and when you get time and get back to your Mac, please send me the proper 
 info off list. I don't want to generate more issues other then what's 
 pertinent to the question. Also, as I am not familiar with how to run a 
 script if you can give fairly detailed instructions I would appreciate it, I 
 can follow them, yet can't stray too far from them as I don't know what I'm 
 doing other than verbatim what I'm told. Again thanks to everyone.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Robert Cole mr.robertc...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 There is a mute script
 To choose I've been using it for months
 I will give you more info on how to find it when I get back on my Mac
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 I'm certainly thankful for all the feedback my question generated. Chris is 
 correct, I did not want to completely disable voiceover. However given that 
 was the choice I had at the time along with creating a keystroke, I checked 
 out creating the keystroke versus disabling voiceover at the time, disabling 
 it was quicker. It would seem to me that there should be a district native 
 to voiceover muting versus having to create one. I don't understand why that 
 was an oversight on Apple's part. As I stated in my first email, I did hit 
 the control key to shut it up yesterday. I would also want the opportunity 
 to take notes. That point was also mentioned. Healthy discussions like this, 
 are the reason for these lists; allowing all of us to learn from each other. 
 Thanks again.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Robert,
  
 She doesn't want to completely disable Voiceover.  She just wants to mute 
 it.  Your solution certainly would work, but it might be overkill.  The 
 thing is, if she needed to command+tab to another window, say to take notes 
 or something, then she'd still have no speech.  Great suggestion, but, I'm 
 just not so sure it would be the most comprable.
  
 Chris.
  
 - Original Message - 
 From: ROBERT CARTER
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 9:03 AM
 Subject: Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover
 
 Hi,
 
 You can simply press command+f5 to toggle VoiceOver off and toggle it back 
 on with command+f5 when the service is over.
 
 Robert Carter
 
 
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi everyone,
 I plan to listen to a continuation of the services I was listening to 
 yesterday,  this morning. Prior to going to the site, I will check out the 
 suggestions given to me here to see if they work before I allow Alex to be 
 disrespectful again. I'm truly surprised there is not a native keystroke to 
 mmute voiceover as there is a trackpad gesture. I feel an email going to 
 Apple accessibility. Let's hope it doesn't take them six updates to get it 
 done.   
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Is there no actual keystroke to mute VO by default then? 
 
 
 
 On 5 Apr 2015, at 13:06, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 If you have a braille display, you can use space with M to mute voiceover.
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 6:48 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 You can also use the keyboard commander. For example, I have it set so 
 option-m mutes sounds and speech. To do this:
 
 * Open the VoiceOver Utility and choose Commanders from the Categories 
 table.
 * Select the Keyboard Commander tab, be sure the commander is on by 
 checking the checkbox, and move past the table to the Add button. 
 Activate that button.
 * You will be placed on a text field, even if VoiceOver doesn't tell you 
 so. Press the key to be used (such as M), then vo-right to the menu 
 button.
 * In that menu is a list of commands, sorted into categories. I believe 
 the item you want, Mute VoiceOver, is in the Sounds submenu. Once you 
 find it, hit enter.
 * Hit option-m to make sure things worked (it's a toggle, so hitting it 
 again will bring VO back). If it worked, you can close the Utility. If 
 not, let

Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

2015-04-05 Thread Robert Cole
There is a mute script
To choose I've been using it for months
I will give you more info on how to find it when I get back on my Mac

Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 I'm certainly thankful for all the feedback my question generated. Chris is 
 correct, I did not want to completely disable voiceover. However given that 
 was the choice I had at the time along with creating a keystroke, I checked 
 out creating the keystroke versus disabling voiceover at the time, disabling 
 it was quicker. It would seem to me that there should be a district native to 
 voiceover muting versus having to create one. I don't understand why that was 
 an oversight on Apple's part. As I stated in my first email, I did hit the 
 control key to shut it up yesterday. I would also want the opportunity to 
 take notes. That point was also mentioned. Healthy discussions like this, are 
 the reason for these lists; allowing all of us to learn from each other. 
 Thanks again.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Robert,
  
 She doesn't want to completely disable Voiceover.  She just wants to mute it. 
  Your solution certainly would work, but it might be overkill.  The thing is, 
 if she needed to command+tab to another window, say to take notes or 
 something, then she'd still have no speech.  Great suggestion, but, I'm just 
 not so sure it would be the most comprable.
  
 Chris.
  
 - Original Message -
 From: ROBERT CARTER
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 9:03 AM
 Subject: Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover
 
 Hi,
 
 You can simply press command+f5 to toggle VoiceOver off and toggle it back on 
 with command+f5 when the service is over.
 
 Robert Carter
 
 
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi everyone,
 I plan to listen to a continuation of the services I was listening to 
 yesterday,  this morning. Prior to going to the site, I will check out the 
 suggestions given to me here to see if they work before I allow Alex to be 
 disrespectful again. I'm truly surprised there is not a native keystroke to 
 mmute voiceover as there is a trackpad gesture. I feel an email going to 
 Apple accessibility. Let's hope it doesn't take them six updates to get it 
 done.   
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Is there no actual keystroke to mute VO by default then? 
 
 
 
 On 5 Apr 2015, at 13:06, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 If you have a braille display, you can use space with M to mute voiceover.
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 6:48 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 You can also use the keyboard commander. For example, I have it set so 
 option-m mutes sounds and speech. To do this:
 
 * Open the VoiceOver Utility and choose Commanders from the Categories 
 table.
 * Select the Keyboard Commander tab, be sure the commander is on by 
 checking the checkbox, and move past the table to the Add button. Activate 
 that button.
 * You will be placed on a text field, even if VoiceOver doesn't tell you 
 so. Press the key to be used (such as M), then vo-right to the menu button.
 * In that menu is a list of commands, sorted into categories. I believe 
 the item you want, Mute VoiceOver, is in the Sounds submenu. Once you find 
 it, hit enter.
 * Hit option-m to make sure things worked (it's a toggle, so hitting it 
 again will bring VO back). If it worked, you can close the Utility. If 
 not, let the list know and we'll try to figure out what happened.
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 5:16 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi Pam. If I remember correctly, with track pad commander on, you could 
 double tap with three fingers on the trackpad to mute Voiceover just like 
 double tapping with three fingers to mute it on an iPhone. If I'm wrong 
 about this, someone correct me.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White Macbook
 - Original Message - From: Pamela Francis 
 gypsykitt...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 1:12 AM
 Subject: Keystroke form muting voiceover
 
 
 Hi everyone,
 I was attempting to listen to a service over the Internet this afternoon. 
 In so doing Alex continually seemed to want to give me every notification 
 I would never have gotten had I been doing something I could've gotten 
 away from or been able to repeat. Normally I don't mind. However in cases 
 like this, is there a keystroke to mute voiceover until such a service or 
 meeting is over? I hit the control key to shut him up, however he has 
 since earned the name disrespectful Alex.
 
 Pam Francis
 
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Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

2015-04-05 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
OK, guys, I think we need to put this to rest and stop attacking me.  The 
Believer, as you can see, I was dead spot on with what Pam wanted, so as you 
say a good trainer would this, and that, who's the good trainer now, seeing you 
blew your cover for absolutely nothing!

Pam, I am glad I could be helpful.  Let me know if I can assist you any 
further.  It is my pleasure!

Chris.

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http://www.clgproductions.net
  - Original Message - 
  From: Pamela Francis 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 8:19 PM
  Subject: Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover


  Hello all,
  I'm certainly thankful for all the feedback my question generated. Chris is 
correct, I did not want to completely disable voiceover. However given that was 
the choice I had at the time along with creating a keystroke, I checked out 
creating the keystroke versus disabling voiceover at the time, disabling it was 
quicker. It would seem to me that there should be a district native to 
voiceover muting versus having to create one. I don't understand why that was 
an oversight on Apple's part. As I stated in my first email, I did hit the 
control key to shut it up yesterday. I would also want the opportunity to take 
notes. That point was also mentioned. Healthy discussions like this, are the 
reason for these lists; allowing all of us to learn from each other. Thanks 
again.

  Pam Francis

  On Apr 5, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
wrote:


  Robert,

  She doesn't want to completely disable Voiceover.  She just wants to mute it. 
 Your solution certainly would work, but it might be overkill.  The thing is, 
if she needed to command+tab to another window, say to take notes or something, 
then she'd still have no speech.  Great suggestion, but, I'm just not so sure 
it would be the most comprable.

  Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: ROBERT CARTER 
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover


Hi, 


You can simply press command+f5 to toggle VoiceOver off and toggle it back 
on with command+f5 when the service is over.


Robert Carter




  On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:


  Hi everyone,
  I plan to listen to a continuation of the services I was listening to 
yesterday,  this morning. Prior to going to the site, I will check out the 
suggestions given to me here to see if they work before I allow Alex to be 
disrespectful again. I'm truly surprised there is not a native keystroke to 
mmute voiceover as there is a trackpad gesture. I feel an email going to Apple 
accessibility. Let's hope it doesn't take them six updates to get it done.   

  Pam Francis

  On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@icloud.com 
wrote:


  Is there no actual keystroke to mute VO by default then? 




  On 5 Apr 2015, at 13:06, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:


If you have a braille display, you can use space with M to mute 
voiceover.

  On Apr 5, 2015, at 6:48 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:


  You can also use the keyboard commander. For example, I have it set 
so option-m mutes sounds and speech. To do this: 


  * Open the VoiceOver Utility and choose Commanders from the 
Categories table.
  * Select the Keyboard Commander tab, be sure the commander is on by 
checking the checkbox, and move past the table to the Add button. Activate that 
button.
  * You will be placed on a text field, even if VoiceOver doesn't tell 
you so. Press the key to be used (such as M), then vo-right to the menu button.
  * In that menu is a list of commands, sorted into categories. I 
believe the item you want, Mute VoiceOver, is in the Sounds submenu. Once you 
find it, hit enter.
  * Hit option-m to make sure things worked (it's a toggle, so hitting 
it again will bring VO back). If it worked, you can close the Utility. If not, 
let the list know and we'll try to figure out what happened.

On Apr 5, 2015, at 5:16 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:


Hi Pam. If I remember correctly, with track pad commander on, you 
could double tap with three fingers on the trackpad to mute Voiceover just like 
double tapping with three fingers to mute it on an iPhone. If I'm wrong about 
this, someone correct me.

Shawn
Sent From My White Macbook
- Original Message - From: Pamela Francis 
gypsykitt...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 1:12 AM
Subject: Keystroke form muting voiceover


Hi everyone,
I was attempting to listen to a service over the Internet this 
afternoon. In so doing Alex continually seemed to want to give me every 
notification I would

Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

2015-04-05 Thread Alex Hall
If all you're after is muting speech and VoiceOver sounds, the mute command 
that has already been discussed will do the job. I'm not sure what a script 
could offer over this, unless it is to mute for a set duration or some other 
feature? I'd be interested in hearing what the script can do over the standard 
command. Note that you'd have to assign the script to a keystroke just as you 
would the mute command, so you wouldn't save anything there.
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 9:27 PM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello Robert,
 If and when you get time and get back to your Mac, please send me the proper 
 info off list. I don't want to generate more issues other then what's 
 pertinent to the question. Also, as I am not familiar with how to run a 
 script if you can give fairly detailed instructions I would appreciate it, I 
 can follow them, yet can't stray too far from them as I don't know what I'm 
 doing other than verbatim what I'm told. Again thanks to everyone.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Robert Cole mr.robertc...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mr.robertc...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 There is a mute script
 To choose I've been using it for months
 I will give you more info on how to find it when I get back on my Mac
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com 
 mailto:gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 I'm certainly thankful for all the feedback my question generated. Chris is 
 correct, I did not want to completely disable voiceover. However given that 
 was the choice I had at the time along with creating a keystroke, I checked 
 out creating the keystroke versus disabling voiceover at the time, disabling 
 it was quicker. It would seem to me that there should be a district native 
 to voiceover muting versus having to create one. I don't understand why that 
 was an oversight on Apple's part. As I stated in my first email, I did hit 
 the control key to shut it up yesterday. I would also want the opportunity 
 to take notes. That point was also mentioned. Healthy discussions like this, 
 are the reason for these lists; allowing all of us to learn from each other. 
 Thanks again.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Robert,
  
 She doesn't want to completely disable Voiceover.  She just wants to mute 
 it.  Your solution certainly would work, but it might be overkill.  The 
 thing is, if she needed to command+tab to another window, say to take notes 
 or something, then she'd still have no speech.  Great suggestion, but, I'm 
 just not so sure it would be the most comprable.
  
 Chris.
  
 - Original Message - 
 From: ROBERT CARTER mailto:nc5rn...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 9:03 AM
 Subject: Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover
 
 Hi,
 
 You can simply press command+f5 to toggle VoiceOver off and toggle it back 
 on with command+f5 when the service is over.
 
 Robert Carter
 
 
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com 
 mailto:gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi everyone,
 I plan to listen to a continuation of the services I was listening to 
 yesterday,  this morning. Prior to going to the site, I will check out the 
 suggestions given to me here to see if they work before I allow Alex to be 
 disrespectful again. I'm truly surprised there is not a native keystroke to 
 mmute voiceover as there is a trackpad gesture. I feel an email going to 
 Apple accessibility. Let's hope it doesn't take them six updates to get it 
 done.   
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@icloud.com 
 mailto:danielmcgee...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Is there no actual keystroke to mute VO by default then? 
 
 
 
 On 5 Apr 2015, at 13:06, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com 
 mailto:d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 If you have a braille display, you can use space with M to mute voiceover.
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 6:48 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 You can also use the keyboard commander. For example, I have it set so 
 option-m mutes sounds and speech. To do this:
 
 * Open the VoiceOver Utility and choose Commanders from the Categories 
 table.
 * Select the Keyboard Commander tab, be sure the commander is on by 
 checking the checkbox, and move past the table to the Add button. 
 Activate that button.
 * You will be placed on a text field, even if VoiceOver doesn't tell you 
 so. Press the key to be used (such as M), then vo-right to the menu 
 button.
 * In that menu is a list of commands, sorted into categories. I believe 
 the item you want, Mute VoiceOver, is in the Sounds submenu. Once you 
 find it, hit enter.
 * Hit option-m to make sure things worked (it's a toggle, so hitting it 
 again will bring VO back). If it worked, you can close the Utility. If 
 not, let the list

Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

2015-04-05 Thread Pamela Francis
Hello all,
I'm certainly thankful for all the feedback my question generated. Chris is 
correct, I did not want to completely disable voiceover. However given that was 
the choice I had at the time along with creating a keystroke, I checked out 
creating the keystroke versus disabling voiceover at the time, disabling it was 
quicker. It would seem to me that there should be a district native to 
voiceover muting versus having to create one. I don't understand why that was 
an oversight on Apple's part. As I stated in my first email, I did hit the 
control key to shut it up yesterday. I would also want the opportunity to take 
notes. That point was also mentioned. Healthy discussions like this, are the 
reason for these lists; allowing all of us to learn from each other. Thanks 
again.

Pam Francis

On Apr 5, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Robert,
 
She doesn't want to completely disable Voiceover.  She just wants to mute it.  
Your solution certainly would work, but it might be overkill.  The thing is, if 
she needed to command+tab to another window, say to take notes or something, 
then she'd still have no speech.  Great suggestion, but, I'm just not so sure 
it would be the most comprable.
 
Chris.
 
- Original Message -
From: ROBERT CARTER
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

Hi,

You can simply press command+f5 to toggle VoiceOver off and toggle it back on 
with command+f5 when the service is over.

Robert Carter


 On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi everyone,
 I plan to listen to a continuation of the services I was listening to 
 yesterday,  this morning. Prior to going to the site, I will check out the 
 suggestions given to me here to see if they work before I allow Alex to be 
 disrespectful again. I'm truly surprised there is not a native keystroke to 
 mmute voiceover as there is a trackpad gesture. I feel an email going to 
 Apple accessibility. Let's hope it doesn't take them six updates to get it 
 done.   
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Is there no actual keystroke to mute VO by default then? 
 
 
 
 On 5 Apr 2015, at 13:06, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 If you have a braille display, you can use space with M to mute voiceover.
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 6:48 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 You can also use the keyboard commander. For example, I have it set so 
 option-m mutes sounds and speech. To do this:
 
 * Open the VoiceOver Utility and choose Commanders from the Categories 
 table.
 * Select the Keyboard Commander tab, be sure the commander is on by 
 checking the checkbox, and move past the table to the Add button. Activate 
 that button.
 * You will be placed on a text field, even if VoiceOver doesn't tell you 
 so. Press the key to be used (such as M), then vo-right to the menu button.
 * In that menu is a list of commands, sorted into categories. I believe the 
 item you want, Mute VoiceOver, is in the Sounds submenu. Once you find it, 
 hit enter.
 * Hit option-m to make sure things worked (it's a toggle, so hitting it 
 again will bring VO back). If it worked, you can close the Utility. If not, 
 let the list know and we'll try to figure out what happened.
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 5:16 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi Pam. If I remember correctly, with track pad commander on, you could 
 double tap with three fingers on the trackpad to mute Voiceover just like 
 double tapping with three fingers to mute it on an iPhone. If I'm wrong 
 about this, someone correct me.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White Macbook
 - Original Message - From: Pamela Francis 
 gypsykitt...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 1:12 AM
 Subject: Keystroke form muting voiceover
 
 
 Hi everyone,
 I was attempting to listen to a service over the Internet this afternoon. 
 In so doing Alex continually seemed to want to give me every notification 
 I would never have gotten had I been doing something I could've gotten 
 away from or been able to repeat. Normally I don't mind. However in cases 
 like this, is there a keystroke to mute voiceover until such a service or 
 meeting is over? I hit the control key to shut him up, however he has 
 since earned the name disrespectful Alex.
 
 Pam Francis
 
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Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

2015-04-05 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Uh, definitely definitely not!  That would mute her audio completely, not just 
Voiceover, but all audio.  Bad move.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Gerry Cook 
  To: Macvisionaries List 
  Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 9:24 AM
  Subject: Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover


  Hi all! you can try fn key with f 10 as a toggle that would free up option 
key for something else. All the best.

  cheers gerry have a nice day
  Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au
  Skype: gerry.cook1 
  Twitter: @gerrycook52


On 5 Apr 2015, at 11:03 pm, ROBERT CARTER nc5rn...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi,


You can simply press command+f5 to toggle VoiceOver off and toggle it back 
on with command+f5 when the service is over.


Robert Carter




  On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:


  Hi everyone,
  I plan to listen to a continuation of the services I was listening to 
yesterday,  this morning. Prior to going to the site, I will check out the 
suggestions given to me here to see if they work before I allow Alex to be 
disrespectful again. I'm truly surprised there is not a native keystroke to 
mmute voiceover as there is a trackpad gesture. I feel an email going to Apple 
accessibility. Let's hope it doesn't take them six updates to get it done.   

  Pam Francis

  On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@icloud.com 
wrote:


  Is there no actual keystroke to mute VO by default then? 




  On 5 Apr 2015, at 13:06, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:


If you have a braille display, you can use space with M to mute 
voiceover.

  On Apr 5, 2015, at 6:48 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:


  You can also use the keyboard commander. For example, I have it set 
so option-m mutes sounds and speech. To do this:


  * Open the VoiceOver Utility and choose Commanders from the 
Categories table.
  * Select the Keyboard Commander tab, be sure the commander is on by 
checking the checkbox, and move past the table to the Add button. Activate that 
button.
  * You will be placed on a text field, even if VoiceOver doesn't tell 
you so. Press the key to be used (such as M), then vo-right to the menu button.
  * In that menu is a list of commands, sorted into categories. I 
believe the item you want, Mute VoiceOver, is in the Sounds submenu. Once you 
find it, hit enter.
  * Hit option-m to make sure things worked (it's a toggle, so hitting 
it again will bring VO back). If it worked, you can close the Utility. If not, 
let the list know and we'll try to figure out what happened.

On Apr 5, 2015, at 5:16 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:


Hi Pam. If I remember correctly, with track pad commander on, you 
could double tap with three fingers on the trackpad to mute Voiceover just like 
double tapping with three fingers to mute it on an iPhone. If I'm wrong about 
this, someone correct me.

Shawn
Sent From My White Macbook
- Original Message - From: Pamela Francis 
gypsykitt...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 1:12 AM
Subject: Keystroke form muting voiceover


Hi everyone,
I was attempting to listen to a service over the Internet this 
afternoon. In so doing Alex continually seemed to want to give me every 
notification I would never have gotten had I been doing something I could've 
gotten away from or been able to repeat. Normally I don't mind. However in 
cases like this, is there a keystroke to mute voiceover until such a service or 
meeting is over? I hit the control key to shut him up, however he has since 
earned the name disrespectful Alex.

Pam Francis

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Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

2015-04-05 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
And, as I said, no it doesn't mute it.  That totally disables Voiceover in a 
whole and makes it stop running, which could be a potential issue if she needed 
to command+tab to other screens.

Yeah, she then could just toggle it back on the same way, then however, she's 
right back at square 1 with Alex being himself, so  meh, I don't think so.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: george b 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 9:45 AM
  Subject: RE: Keystroke form muting voiceover


  Like Robert said do a command f5 and turn v o off and command f5 to 
restart…lol doesn’t that mute it

   

  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerry Cook
  Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 06:25
  To: Macvisionaries List
  Subject: Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

   

  Hi all! you can try fn key with f 10 as a toggle that would free up option 
key for something else. All the best.

  cheers gerry have a nice day
  Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au
  Skype: gerry.cook1 
  Twitter: @gerrycook52

   

On 5 Apr 2015, at 11:03 pm, ROBERT CARTER nc5rn...@gmail.com wrote:

 

Hi,

 

You can simply press command+f5 to toggle VoiceOver off and toggle it back 
on with command+f5 when the service is over.

 

Robert Carter

 

 

  On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:

   

  Hi everyone,

  I plan to listen to a continuation of the services I was listening to 
yesterday,  this morning. Prior to going to the site, I will check out the 
suggestions given to me here to see if they work before I allow Alex to be 
disrespectful again. I'm truly surprised there is not a native keystroke to 
mmute voiceover as there is a trackpad gesture. I feel an email going to Apple 
accessibility. Let's hope it doesn't take them six updates to get it done.   

  Pam Francis


  On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@icloud.com 
wrote:

  Is there no actual keystroke to mute VO by default then? 




  On 5 Apr 2015, at 13:06, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:

If you have a braille display, you can use space with M to mute 
voiceover.

  On Apr 5, 2015, at 6:48 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

   

  You can also use the keyboard commander. For example, I have it set 
so option-m mutes sounds and speech. To do this:

   

  * Open the VoiceOver Utility and choose Commanders from the 
Categories table.

  * Select the Keyboard Commander tab, be sure the commander is on by 
checking the checkbox, and move past the table to the Add button. Activate that 
button.

  * You will be placed on a text field, even if VoiceOver doesn't tell 
you so. Press the key to be used (such as M), then vo-right to the menu button.

  * In that menu is a list of commands, sorted into categories. I 
believe the item you want, Mute VoiceOver, is in the Sounds submenu. Once you 
find it, hit enter.

  * Hit option-m to make sure things worked (it's a toggle, so hitting 
it again will bring VO back). If it worked, you can close the Utility. If not, 
let the list know and we'll try to figure out what happened.

On Apr 5, 2015, at 5:16 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:

 

Hi Pam. If I remember correctly, with track pad commander on, you 
could double tap with three fingers on the trackpad to mute Voiceover just like 
double tapping with three fingers to mute it on an iPhone. If I'm wrong about 
this, someone correct me.

Shawn
Sent From My White Macbook
- Original Message - From: Pamela Francis 
gypsykitt...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 1:12 AM
Subject: Keystroke form muting voiceover


Hi everyone,
I was attempting to listen to a service over the Internet this 
afternoon. In so doing Alex continually seemed to want to give me every 
notification I would never have gotten had I been doing something I could've 
gotten away from or been able to repeat. Normally I don't mind. However in 
cases like this, is there a keystroke to mute voiceover until such a service or 
meeting is over? I hit the control key to shut him up, however he has since 
earned the name disrespectful Alex.

Pam Francis

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Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

2015-04-05 Thread Daniel McGee
Is there no actual keystroke to mute VO by default then? 



 On 5 Apr 2015, at 13:06, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 If you have a braille display, you can use space with M to mute voiceover.
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 6:48 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 You can also use the keyboard commander. For example, I have it set so 
 option-m mutes sounds and speech. To do this:
 
 * Open the VoiceOver Utility and choose Commanders from the Categories table.
 * Select the Keyboard Commander tab, be sure the commander is on by checking 
 the checkbox, and move past the table to the Add button. Activate that 
 button.
 * You will be placed on a text field, even if VoiceOver doesn't tell you so. 
 Press the key to be used (such as M), then vo-right to the menu button.
 * In that menu is a list of commands, sorted into categories. I believe the 
 item you want, Mute VoiceOver, is in the Sounds submenu. Once you find it, 
 hit enter.
 * Hit option-m to make sure things worked (it's a toggle, so hitting it 
 again will bring VO back). If it worked, you can close the Utility. If not, 
 let the list know and we'll try to figure out what happened.
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 5:16 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi Pam. If I remember correctly, with track pad commander on, you could 
 double tap with three fingers on the trackpad to mute Voiceover just like 
 double tapping with three fingers to mute it on an iPhone. If I'm wrong 
 about this, someone correct me.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White Macbook
 - Original Message - From: Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 1:12 AM
 Subject: Keystroke form muting voiceover
 
 
 Hi everyone,
 I was attempting to listen to a service over the Internet this afternoon. 
 In so doing Alex continually seemed to want to give me every notification I 
 would never have gotten had I been doing something I could've gotten away 
 from or been able to repeat. Normally I don't mind. However in cases like 
 this, is there a keystroke to mute voiceover until such a service or 
 meeting is over? I hit the control key to shut him up, however he has since 
 earned the name disrespectful Alex.
 
 Pam Francis
 
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Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

2015-04-05 Thread Pamela Francis
Hi everyone,
I plan to listen to a continuation of the services I was listening to 
yesterday,  this morning. Prior to going to the site, I will check out the 
suggestions given to me here to see if they work before I allow Alex to be 
disrespectful again. I'm truly surprised there is not a native keystroke to 
mmute voiceover as there is a trackpad gesture. I feel an email going to Apple 
accessibility. Let's hope it doesn't take them six updates to get it done.   

Pam Francis

On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@icloud.com wrote:

Is there no actual keystroke to mute VO by default then? 



 On 5 Apr 2015, at 13:06, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 If you have a braille display, you can use space with M to mute voiceover.
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 6:48 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 You can also use the keyboard commander. For example, I have it set so 
 option-m mutes sounds and speech. To do this:
 
 * Open the VoiceOver Utility and choose Commanders from the Categories table.
 * Select the Keyboard Commander tab, be sure the commander is on by checking 
 the checkbox, and move past the table to the Add button. Activate that 
 button.
 * You will be placed on a text field, even if VoiceOver doesn't tell you so. 
 Press the key to be used (such as M), then vo-right to the menu button.
 * In that menu is a list of commands, sorted into categories. I believe the 
 item you want, Mute VoiceOver, is in the Sounds submenu. Once you find it, 
 hit enter.
 * Hit option-m to make sure things worked (it's a toggle, so hitting it 
 again will bring VO back). If it worked, you can close the Utility. If not, 
 let the list know and we'll try to figure out what happened.
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 5:16 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi Pam. If I remember correctly, with track pad commander on, you could 
 double tap with three fingers on the trackpad to mute Voiceover just like 
 double tapping with three fingers to mute it on an iPhone. If I'm wrong 
 about this, someone correct me.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White Macbook
 - Original Message - From: Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 1:12 AM
 Subject: Keystroke form muting voiceover
 
 
 Hi everyone,
 I was attempting to listen to a service over the Internet this afternoon. 
 In so doing Alex continually seemed to want to give me every notification I 
 would never have gotten had I been doing something I could've gotten away 
 from or been able to repeat. Normally I don't mind. However in cases like 
 this, is there a keystroke to mute voiceover until such a service or 
 meeting is over? I hit the control key to shut him up, however he has since 
 earned the name disrespectful Alex.
 
 Pam Francis
 
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RE: Keystroke form muting voiceover

2015-04-05 Thread george b
Like Robert said do a command f5 and turn v o off and command f5 to restart…lol 
doesn’t that mute it

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Gerry Cook
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 06:25
To: Macvisionaries List
Subject: Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

 

Hi all! you can try fn key with f 10 as a toggle that would free up option key 
for something else. All the best.

cheers gerry have a nice day
Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au mailto:gerryc...@optusnet.com.au 
Skype: gerry.cook1 
Twitter: @gerrycook52

 

On 5 Apr 2015, at 11:03 pm, ROBERT CARTER nc5rn...@gmail.com 
mailto:nc5rn...@gmail.com  wrote:

 

Hi,

 

You can simply press command+f5 to toggle VoiceOver off and toggle it back on 
with command+f5 when the service is over.

 

Robert Carter

 

 

On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com 
mailto:gypsykitt...@gmail.com  wrote:

 

Hi everyone,

I plan to listen to a continuation of the services I was listening to 
yesterday,  this morning. Prior to going to the site, I will check out the 
suggestions given to me here to see if they work before I allow Alex to be 
disrespectful again. I'm truly surprised there is not a native keystroke to 
mmute voiceover as there is a trackpad gesture. I feel an email going to Apple 
accessibility. Let's hope it doesn't take them six updates to get it done.   

Pam Francis


On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@icloud.com 
mailto:danielmcgee...@icloud.com  wrote:

Is there no actual keystroke to mute VO by default then? 




On 5 Apr 2015, at 13:06, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com mailto:d.pra...@me.com 
 wrote:

If you have a braille display, you can use space with M to mute voiceover.

On Apr 5, 2015, at 6:48 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
mailto:mehg...@icloud.com  wrote:

 

You can also use the keyboard commander. For example, I have it set so option-m 
mutes sounds and speech. To do this:

 

* Open the VoiceOver Utility and choose Commanders from the Categories table.

* Select the Keyboard Commander tab, be sure the commander is on by checking 
the checkbox, and move past the table to the Add button. Activate that button.

* You will be placed on a text field, even if VoiceOver doesn't tell you so. 
Press the key to be used (such as M), then vo-right to the menu button.

* In that menu is a list of commands, sorted into categories. I believe the 
item you want, Mute VoiceOver, is in the Sounds submenu. Once you find it, hit 
enter.

* Hit option-m to make sure things worked (it's a toggle, so hitting it again 
will bring VO back). If it worked, you can close the Utility. If not, let the 
list know and we'll try to figure out what happened.

On Apr 5, 2015, at 5:16 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com 
mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com  wrote:

 

Hi Pam. If I remember correctly, with track pad commander on, you could double 
tap with three fingers on the trackpad to mute Voiceover just like double 
tapping with three fingers to mute it on an iPhone. If I'm wrong about this, 
someone correct me.

Shawn
Sent From My White Macbook
- Original Message - From: Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com 
mailto:gypsykitt...@gmail.com 
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Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 1:12 AM
Subject: Keystroke form muting voiceover


Hi everyone,
I was attempting to listen to a service over the Internet this afternoon. In so 
doing Alex continually seemed to want to give me every notification I would 
never have gotten had I been doing something I could've gotten away from or 
been able to repeat. Normally I don't mind. However in cases like this, is 
there a keystroke to mute voiceover until such a service or meeting is over? I 
hit the control key to shut him up, however he has since earned the name 
disrespectful Alex.

Pam Francis

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Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

2015-04-05 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
You're correct, provided she has a trackpad.  If not, I'm not aware of a 
command from the actual keyboard to do this, however, you definitely could 
very easily map the action to a keyboard commander which then would! give 
you a keyboard command to do it on the fly.


Chris.

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 5:16 AM
Subject: Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover


Hi Pam. If I remember correctly, with track pad commander on, you could 
double tap with three fingers on the trackpad to mute Voiceover just like 
double tapping with three fingers to mute it on an iPhone. If I'm wrong 
about this, someone correct me.


Shawn
Sent From My White Macbook
- Original Message - 
From: Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 1:12 AM
Subject: Keystroke form muting voiceover


Hi everyone,
I was attempting to listen to a service over the Internet this afternoon. 
In so doing Alex continually seemed to want to give me every notification 
I would never have gotten had I been doing something I could've gotten 
away from or been able to repeat. Normally I don't mind. However in cases 
like this, is there a keystroke to mute voiceover until such a service or 
meeting is over? I hit the control key to shut him up, however he has 
since earned the name disrespectful Alex.


Pam Francis

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Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

2015-04-05 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Robert,

She doesn't want to completely disable Voiceover.  She just wants to mute it.  
Your solution certainly would work, but it might be overkill.  The thing is, if 
she needed to command+tab to another window, say to take notes or something, 
then she'd still have no speech.  Great suggestion, but, I'm just not so sure 
it would be the most comprable.

Chris.

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  Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 9:03 AM
  Subject: Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover


  Hi,


  You can simply press command+f5 to toggle VoiceOver off and toggle it back on 
with command+f5 when the service is over.


  Robert Carter




On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi everyone,
I plan to listen to a continuation of the services I was listening to 
yesterday,  this morning. Prior to going to the site, I will check out the 
suggestions given to me here to see if they work before I allow Alex to be 
disrespectful again. I'm truly surprised there is not a native keystroke to 
mmute voiceover as there is a trackpad gesture. I feel an email going to Apple 
accessibility. Let's hope it doesn't take them six updates to get it done.   

Pam Francis

On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@icloud.com wrote:


Is there no actual keystroke to mute VO by default then? 




On 5 Apr 2015, at 13:06, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:


  If you have a braille display, you can use space with M to mute voiceover.

On Apr 5, 2015, at 6:48 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:


You can also use the keyboard commander. For example, I have it set so 
option-m mutes sounds and speech. To do this:


* Open the VoiceOver Utility and choose Commanders from the Categories 
table.
* Select the Keyboard Commander tab, be sure the commander is on by 
checking the checkbox, and move past the table to the Add button. Activate that 
button.
* You will be placed on a text field, even if VoiceOver doesn't tell 
you so. Press the key to be used (such as M), then vo-right to the menu button.
* In that menu is a list of commands, sorted into categories. I believe 
the item you want, Mute VoiceOver, is in the Sounds submenu. Once you find it, 
hit enter.
* Hit option-m to make sure things worked (it's a toggle, so hitting it 
again will bring VO back). If it worked, you can close the Utility. If not, let 
the list know and we'll try to figure out what happened.

  On Apr 5, 2015, at 5:16 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:


  Hi Pam. If I remember correctly, with track pad commander on, you 
could double tap with three fingers on the trackpad to mute Voiceover just like 
double tapping with three fingers to mute it on an iPhone. If I'm wrong about 
this, someone correct me.

  Shawn
  Sent From My White Macbook
  - Original Message - From: Pamela Francis 
gypsykitt...@gmail.com
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 1:12 AM
  Subject: Keystroke form muting voiceover


  Hi everyone,
  I was attempting to listen to a service over the Internet this 
afternoon. In so doing Alex continually seemed to want to give me every 
notification I would never have gotten had I been doing something I could've 
gotten away from or been able to repeat. Normally I don't mind. However in 
cases like this, is there a keystroke to mute voiceover until such a service or 
meeting is over? I hit the control key to shut him up, however he has since 
earned the name disrespectful Alex.

  Pam Francis

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Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

2015-04-05 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Hunt uh.  I don't think there is.  As we've all said so far though, you 
definitely can create one.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 8:35 AM
  Subject: Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover


  Is there no actual keystroke to mute VO by default then? 




  On 5 Apr 2015, at 13:06, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:


If you have a braille display, you can use space with M to mute voiceover.

  On Apr 5, 2015, at 6:48 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:


  You can also use the keyboard commander. For example, I have it set so 
option-m mutes sounds and speech. To do this:


  * Open the VoiceOver Utility and choose Commanders from the Categories 
table.
  * Select the Keyboard Commander tab, be sure the commander is on by 
checking the checkbox, and move past the table to the Add button. Activate that 
button.
  * You will be placed on a text field, even if VoiceOver doesn't tell you 
so. Press the key to be used (such as M), then vo-right to the menu button.
  * In that menu is a list of commands, sorted into categories. I believe 
the item you want, Mute VoiceOver, is in the Sounds submenu. Once you find it, 
hit enter.
  * Hit option-m to make sure things worked (it's a toggle, so hitting it 
again will bring VO back). If it worked, you can close the Utility. If not, let 
the list know and we'll try to figure out what happened.

On Apr 5, 2015, at 5:16 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:


Hi Pam. If I remember correctly, with track pad commander on, you could 
double tap with three fingers on the trackpad to mute Voiceover just like 
double tapping with three fingers to mute it on an iPhone. If I'm wrong about 
this, someone correct me.

Shawn
Sent From My White Macbook
- Original Message - From: Pamela Francis 
gypsykitt...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 1:12 AM
Subject: Keystroke form muting voiceover


Hi everyone,
I was attempting to listen to a service over the Internet this 
afternoon. In so doing Alex continually seemed to want to give me every 
notification I would never have gotten had I been doing something I could've 
gotten away from or been able to repeat. Normally I don't mind. However in 
cases like this, is there a keystroke to mute voiceover until such a service or 
meeting is over? I hit the control key to shut him up, however he has since 
earned the name disrespectful Alex.

Pam Francis

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Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

2015-04-05 Thread Alex Hall
You can also use the keyboard commander. For example, I have it set so option-m 
mutes sounds and speech. To do this:

* Open the VoiceOver Utility and choose Commanders from the Categories table.
* Select the Keyboard Commander tab, be sure the commander is on by checking 
the checkbox, and move past the table to the Add button. Activate that button.
* You will be placed on a text field, even if VoiceOver doesn't tell you so. 
Press the key to be used (such as M), then vo-right to the menu button.
* In that menu is a list of commands, sorted into categories. I believe the 
item you want, Mute VoiceOver, is in the Sounds submenu. Once you find it, hit 
enter.
* Hit option-m to make sure things worked (it's a toggle, so hitting it again 
will bring VO back). If it worked, you can close the Utility. If not, let the 
list know and we'll try to figure out what happened.
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 5:16 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi Pam. If I remember correctly, with track pad commander on, you could 
 double tap with three fingers on the trackpad to mute Voiceover just like 
 double tapping with three fingers to mute it on an iPhone. If I'm wrong about 
 this, someone correct me.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White Macbook
 - Original Message - From: Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 1:12 AM
 Subject: Keystroke form muting voiceover
 
 
 Hi everyone,
 I was attempting to listen to a service over the Internet this afternoon. In 
 so doing Alex continually seemed to want to give me every notification I 
 would never have gotten had I been doing something I could've gotten away 
 from or been able to repeat. Normally I don't mind. However in cases like 
 this, is there a keystroke to mute voiceover until such a service or meeting 
 is over? I hit the control key to shut him up, however he has since earned 
 the name disrespectful Alex.
 
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Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

2015-04-05 Thread Devin Prater
If you have a braille display, you can use space with M to mute voiceover.
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 6:48 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 You can also use the keyboard commander. For example, I have it set so 
 option-m mutes sounds and speech. To do this:
 
 * Open the VoiceOver Utility and choose Commanders from the Categories table.
 * Select the Keyboard Commander tab, be sure the commander is on by checking 
 the checkbox, and move past the table to the Add button. Activate that button.
 * You will be placed on a text field, even if VoiceOver doesn't tell you so. 
 Press the key to be used (such as M), then vo-right to the menu button.
 * In that menu is a list of commands, sorted into categories. I believe the 
 item you want, Mute VoiceOver, is in the Sounds submenu. Once you find it, 
 hit enter.
 * Hit option-m to make sure things worked (it's a toggle, so hitting it again 
 will bring VO back). If it worked, you can close the Utility. If not, let the 
 list know and we'll try to figure out what happened.
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 5:16 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com 
 mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi Pam. If I remember correctly, with track pad commander on, you could 
 double tap with three fingers on the trackpad to mute Voiceover just like 
 double tapping with three fingers to mute it on an iPhone. If I'm wrong 
 about this, someone correct me.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White Macbook
 - Original Message - From: Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com 
 mailto:gypsykitt...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 1:12 AM
 Subject: Keystroke form muting voiceover
 
 
 Hi everyone,
 I was attempting to listen to a service over the Internet this afternoon. In 
 so doing Alex continually seemed to want to give me every notification I 
 would never have gotten had I been doing something I could've gotten away 
 from or been able to repeat. Normally I don't mind. However in cases like 
 this, is there a keystroke to mute voiceover until such a service or meeting 
 is over? I hit the control key to shut him up, however he has since earned 
 the name disrespectful Alex.
 
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Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

2015-04-05 Thread ROBERT CARTER
Hi,

You can simply press command+f5 to toggle VoiceOver off and toggle it back on 
with command+f5 when the service is over.

Robert Carter


 On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi everyone,
 I plan to listen to a continuation of the services I was listening to 
 yesterday,  this morning. Prior to going to the site, I will check out the 
 suggestions given to me here to see if they work before I allow Alex to be 
 disrespectful again. I'm truly surprised there is not a native keystroke to 
 mmute voiceover as there is a trackpad gesture. I feel an email going to 
 Apple accessibility. Let's hope it doesn't take them six updates to get it 
 done.   
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@icloud.com 
 mailto:danielmcgee...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Is there no actual keystroke to mute VO by default then? 
 
 
 
 On 5 Apr 2015, at 13:06, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com 
 mailto:d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 If you have a braille display, you can use space with M to mute voiceover.
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 6:48 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 You can also use the keyboard commander. For example, I have it set so 
 option-m mutes sounds and speech. To do this:
 
 * Open the VoiceOver Utility and choose Commanders from the Categories 
 table.
 * Select the Keyboard Commander tab, be sure the commander is on by 
 checking the checkbox, and move past the table to the Add button. Activate 
 that button.
 * You will be placed on a text field, even if VoiceOver doesn't tell you 
 so. Press the key to be used (such as M), then vo-right to the menu button.
 * In that menu is a list of commands, sorted into categories. I believe the 
 item you want, Mute VoiceOver, is in the Sounds submenu. Once you find it, 
 hit enter.
 * Hit option-m to make sure things worked (it's a toggle, so hitting it 
 again will bring VO back). If it worked, you can close the Utility. If not, 
 let the list know and we'll try to figure out what happened.
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 5:16 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com 
 mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi Pam. If I remember correctly, with track pad commander on, you could 
 double tap with three fingers on the trackpad to mute Voiceover just like 
 double tapping with three fingers to mute it on an iPhone. If I'm wrong 
 about this, someone correct me.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White Macbook
 - Original Message - From: Pamela Francis 
 gypsykitt...@gmail.com mailto:gypsykitt...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 1:12 AM
 Subject: Keystroke form muting voiceover
 
 
 Hi everyone,
 I was attempting to listen to a service over the Internet this afternoon. 
 In so doing Alex continually seemed to want to give me every notification 
 I would never have gotten had I been doing something I could've gotten 
 away from or been able to repeat. Normally I don't mind. However in cases 
 like this, is there a keystroke to mute voiceover until such a service or 
 meeting is over? I hit the control key to shut him up, however he has 
 since earned the name disrespectful Alex.
 
 Pam Francis
 
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Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

2015-04-05 Thread Gerry Cook
Hi all! you can try fn key with f 10 as a toggle that would free up option key 
for something else. All the best.
cheers gerry have a nice day
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 On 5 Apr 2015, at 11:03 pm, ROBERT CARTER nc5rn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 You can simply press command+f5 to toggle VoiceOver off and toggle it back on 
 with command+f5 when the service is over.
 
 Robert Carter
 
 
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com 
 mailto:gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi everyone,
 I plan to listen to a continuation of the services I was listening to 
 yesterday,  this morning. Prior to going to the site, I will check out the 
 suggestions given to me here to see if they work before I allow Alex to be 
 disrespectful again. I'm truly surprised there is not a native keystroke to 
 mmute voiceover as there is a trackpad gesture. I feel an email going to 
 Apple accessibility. Let's hope it doesn't take them six updates to get it 
 done.   
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@icloud.com 
 mailto:danielmcgee...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Is there no actual keystroke to mute VO by default then? 
 
 
 
 On 5 Apr 2015, at 13:06, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com 
 mailto:d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 If you have a braille display, you can use space with M to mute voiceover.
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 6:48 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 You can also use the keyboard commander. For example, I have it set so 
 option-m mutes sounds and speech. To do this:
 
 * Open the VoiceOver Utility and choose Commanders from the Categories 
 table.
 * Select the Keyboard Commander tab, be sure the commander is on by 
 checking the checkbox, and move past the table to the Add button. Activate 
 that button.
 * You will be placed on a text field, even if VoiceOver doesn't tell you 
 so. Press the key to be used (such as M), then vo-right to the menu button.
 * In that menu is a list of commands, sorted into categories. I believe 
 the item you want, Mute VoiceOver, is in the Sounds submenu. Once you find 
 it, hit enter.
 * Hit option-m to make sure things worked (it's a toggle, so hitting it 
 again will bring VO back). If it worked, you can close the Utility. If 
 not, let the list know and we'll try to figure out what happened.
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 5:16 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com 
 mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi Pam. If I remember correctly, with track pad commander on, you could 
 double tap with three fingers on the trackpad to mute Voiceover just like 
 double tapping with three fingers to mute it on an iPhone. If I'm wrong 
 about this, someone correct me.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White Macbook
 - Original Message - From: Pamela Francis 
 gypsykitt...@gmail.com mailto:gypsykitt...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 1:12 AM
 Subject: Keystroke form muting voiceover
 
 
 Hi everyone,
 I was attempting to listen to a service over the Internet this afternoon. 
 In so doing Alex continually seemed to want to give me every notification 
 I would never have gotten had I been doing something I could've gotten 
 away from or been able to repeat. Normally I don't mind. However in cases 
 like this, is there a keystroke to mute voiceover until such a service or 
 meeting is over? I hit the control key to shut him up, however he has 
 since earned the name disrespectful Alex.
 
 Pam Francis
 
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Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

2015-04-05 Thread Matthew Dierckens
No because then this would mute the entire system.

God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
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Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com

 On Apr 5, 2015, at 09:24, Gerry Cook gerryc...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi all! you can try fn key with f 10 as a toggle that would free up option 
 key for something else. All the best.
 cheers gerry have a nice day
 Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au mailto:gerryc...@optusnet.com.au
 Skype: gerry.cook1 
 Twitter: @gerrycook52
 
 On 5 Apr 2015, at 11:03 pm, ROBERT CARTER nc5rn...@gmail.com 
 mailto:nc5rn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 You can simply press command+f5 to toggle VoiceOver off and toggle it back 
 on with command+f5 when the service is over.
 
 Robert Carter
 
 
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com 
 mailto:gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi everyone,
 I plan to listen to a continuation of the services I was listening to 
 yesterday,  this morning. Prior to going to the site, I will check out the 
 suggestions given to me here to see if they work before I allow Alex to be 
 disrespectful again. I'm truly surprised there is not a native keystroke to 
 mmute voiceover as there is a trackpad gesture. I feel an email going to 
 Apple accessibility. Let's hope it doesn't take them six updates to get it 
 done.   
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@icloud.com 
 mailto:danielmcgee...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Is there no actual keystroke to mute VO by default then? 
 
 
 
 On 5 Apr 2015, at 13:06, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com 
 mailto:d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 If you have a braille display, you can use space with M to mute voiceover.
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 6:48 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 You can also use the keyboard commander. For example, I have it set so 
 option-m mutes sounds and speech. To do this:
 
 * Open the VoiceOver Utility and choose Commanders from the Categories 
 table.
 * Select the Keyboard Commander tab, be sure the commander is on by 
 checking the checkbox, and move past the table to the Add button. 
 Activate that button.
 * You will be placed on a text field, even if VoiceOver doesn't tell you 
 so. Press the key to be used (such as M), then vo-right to the menu 
 button.
 * In that menu is a list of commands, sorted into categories. I believe 
 the item you want, Mute VoiceOver, is in the Sounds submenu. Once you 
 find it, hit enter.
 * Hit option-m to make sure things worked (it's a toggle, so hitting it 
 again will bring VO back). If it worked, you can close the Utility. If 
 not, let the list know and we'll try to figure out what happened.
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 5:16 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com 
 mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi Pam. If I remember correctly, with track pad commander on, you could 
 double tap with three fingers on the trackpad to mute Voiceover just 
 like double tapping with three fingers to mute it on an iPhone. If I'm 
 wrong about this, someone correct me.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White Macbook
 - Original Message - From: Pamela Francis 
 gypsykitt...@gmail.com mailto:gypsykitt...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 1:12 AM
 Subject: Keystroke form muting voiceover
 
 
 Hi everyone,
 I was attempting to listen to a service over the Internet this 
 afternoon. In so doing Alex continually seemed to want to give me every 
 notification I would never have gotten had I been doing something I 
 could've gotten away from or been able to repeat. Normally I don't mind. 
 However in cases like this, is there a keystroke to mute voiceover until 
 such a service or meeting is over? I hit the control key to shut him up, 
 however he has since earned the name disrespectful Alex.
 
 Pam Francis
 
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Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

2015-04-05 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I think that's dependent on the display.  Remember, not all displays have 
typing keys on them like a braille keyboard.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Devin Prater 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 8:06 AM
  Subject: Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover


  If you have a braille display, you can use space with M to mute voiceover.

On Apr 5, 2015, at 6:48 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:


You can also use the keyboard commander. For example, I have it set so 
option-m mutes sounds and speech. To do this:


* Open the VoiceOver Utility and choose Commanders from the Categories 
table.
* Select the Keyboard Commander tab, be sure the commander is on by 
checking the checkbox, and move past the table to the Add button. Activate that 
button.
* You will be placed on a text field, even if VoiceOver doesn't tell you 
so. Press the key to be used (such as M), then vo-right to the menu button.
* In that menu is a list of commands, sorted into categories. I believe the 
item you want, Mute VoiceOver, is in the Sounds submenu. Once you find it, hit 
enter.
* Hit option-m to make sure things worked (it's a toggle, so hitting it 
again will bring VO back). If it worked, you can close the Utility. If not, let 
the list know and we'll try to figure out what happened.

  On Apr 5, 2015, at 5:16 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:


  Hi Pam. If I remember correctly, with track pad commander on, you could 
double tap with three fingers on the trackpad to mute Voiceover just like 
double tapping with three fingers to mute it on an iPhone. If I'm wrong about 
this, someone correct me.

  Shawn
  Sent From My White Macbook
  - Original Message - From: Pamela Francis 
gypsykitt...@gmail.com
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 1:12 AM
  Subject: Keystroke form muting voiceover


  Hi everyone,
  I was attempting to listen to a service over the Internet this afternoon. 
In so doing Alex continually seemed to want to give me every notification I 
would never have gotten had I been doing something I could've gotten away from 
or been able to repeat. Normally I don't mind. However in cases like this, is 
there a keystroke to mute voiceover until such a service or meeting is over? I 
hit the control key to shut him up, however he has since earned the name 
disrespectful Alex.

  Pam Francis

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Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

2015-04-05 Thread BBS
Hi Pam. If I remember correctly, with track pad commander on, you could 
double tap with three fingers on the trackpad to mute Voiceover just like 
double tapping with three fingers to mute it on an iPhone. If I'm wrong 
about this, someone correct me.


Shawn
Sent From My White Macbook
- Original Message - 
From: Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 1:12 AM
Subject: Keystroke form muting voiceover


Hi everyone,
I was attempting to listen to a service over the Internet this afternoon. In 
so doing Alex continually seemed to want to give me every notification I 
would never have gotten had I been doing something I could've gotten away 
from or been able to repeat. Normally I don't mind. However in cases like 
this, is there a keystroke to mute voiceover until such a service or meeting 
is over? I hit the control key to shut him up, however he has since earned 
the name disrespectful Alex.


Pam Francis

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Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

2015-04-05 Thread The Believer

Chris,
   There is almost always more than one way to accomplish something. 
What works for me may not meet your criteria, its irrelevant. Why can't 
we just offer the various options and let people choose what works for 
them? This constant back and forth does little to further the cause.


   A good trainer would operate with this mindset.

From The Believer. . .
   By way of the Chariots of the
Gods cameth the Aliens who
dwelt amongst the humans,
and bringeth much knowledge.

On 4/5/2015 10:43 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Oh, I didn't mean to imply it wasn't an option.  I just simply meant
that it may would be a bit extreme.  I'm perfectly aware that
command+tab would still work.  Remember, I'm a mac and I O S trainer.
Chris.
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- Original Message -
*From:* george b mailto:gbma...@gmail.com
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, April 05, 2015 11:30 AM
*Subject:* RE: Keystroke form muting voiceover

Well she want’s to listen to the serman so command f5 works perfect.

If she wants to take notes then she would have to hear voice over as
she says rudely during the serman and from her post she dose not
wish to do that.

There for command f5 works perfect.  And , by the way you still can
do command tab to change to other windows with voice over off.

And if she wants to do this just do command f5 and turn voice back on

*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of
*Christopher-Mark Gilland
*Sent:* Sunday, April 05, 2015 08:21
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

And, as I said, no it doesn't mute it.  That totally disables
Voiceover in a whole and makes it stop running, which could be a
potential issue if she needed to command+tab to other screens.

Yeah, she then could just toggle it back on the same way, then
however, she's right back at square 1 with Alex being himself, so
meh, I don't think so.

Chris.

- Original Message -

*From:*george b mailto:gbma...@gmail.com

*To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

*Sent:*Sunday, April 05, 2015 9:45 AM

*Subject:*RE: Keystroke form muting voiceover

Like Robert said do a command f5 and turn v o off and command f5
to restart…lol doesn’t that mute it

*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Gerry Cook
*Sent:* Sunday, April 05, 2015 06:25
*To:* Macvisionaries List
*Subject:* Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

Hi all! you can try fn key with f 10 as a toggle that would free
up option key for something else. All the best.

cheers gerry have a nice day
Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au mailto:gerryc...@optusnet.com.au
Skype: gerry.cook1
Twitter: @gerrycook52

On 5 Apr 2015, at 11:03 pm, ROBERT CARTER
nc5rn...@gmail.com mailto:nc5rn...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

You can simply press command+f5 to toggle VoiceOver off and
toggle it back on with command+f5 when the service is over.

Robert Carter

On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Pamela Francis
gypsykitt...@gmail.com mailto:gypsykitt...@gmail.com
wrote:

Hi everyone,

I plan to listen to a continuation of the services I was
listening to yesterday,  this morning. Prior to going to
the site, I will check out the suggestions given to me
here to see if they work before I allow Alex to be
disrespectful again. I'm truly surprised there is not a
native keystroke to mmute voiceover as there is a
trackpad gesture. I feel an email going to Apple
accessibility. Let's hope it doesn't take them six
updates to get it done.

Pam Francis


On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Daniel McGee
danielmcgee...@icloud.com
mailto:danielmcgee...@icloud.com wrote:

Is there no actual keystroke to mute VO by default then?


On 5 Apr 2015, at 13:06, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com
mailto:d.pra...@me.com wrote:

If you have a braille display, you can use space
with M to mute voiceover.

On Apr 5, 2015, at 6:48 AM, Alex Hall
mehg...@icloud.com mailto:mehg...@icloud.com
wrote:

You can also use the keyboard commander

Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

2015-04-05 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Oh, I didn't mean to imply it wasn't an option.  I just simply meant that it 
may would be a bit extreme.  I'm perfectly aware that command+tab would still 
work.  Remember, I'm a mac and I O S trainer.

Chris.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: george b 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 11:30 AM
  Subject: RE: Keystroke form muting voiceover


  Well she want’s to listen to the serman so command f5 works perfect.

   

  If she wants to take notes then she would have to hear voice over as she says 
rudely during the serman and from her post she dose not wish to do that.

   

  There for command f5 works perfect.  And , by the way you still can do 
command tab to change to other windows with voice over off.

   

  And if she wants to do this just do command f5 and turn voice back on

   

  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
  Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 08:21
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

   

  And, as I said, no it doesn't mute it.  That totally disables Voiceover in a 
whole and makes it stop running, which could be a potential issue if she needed 
to command+tab to other screens.

   

  Yeah, she then could just toggle it back on the same way, then however, she's 
right back at square 1 with Alex being himself, so  meh, I don't think so.

   

  Chris.

   

- Original Message - 

From: george b 

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 9:45 AM

Subject: RE: Keystroke form muting voiceover

 

Like Robert said do a command f5 and turn v o off and command f5 to 
restart…lol doesn’t that mute it

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerry Cook
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 06:25
To: Macvisionaries List
Subject: Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

 

Hi all! you can try fn key with f 10 as a toggle that would free up option 
key for something else. All the best.

cheers gerry have a nice day
Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au
Skype: gerry.cook1 
Twitter: @gerrycook52

 

  On 5 Apr 2015, at 11:03 pm, ROBERT CARTER nc5rn...@gmail.com wrote:

   

  Hi,

   

  You can simply press command+f5 to toggle VoiceOver off and toggle it 
back on with command+f5 when the service is over.

   

  Robert Carter

   

   

On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 

Hi everyone,

I plan to listen to a continuation of the services I was listening to 
yesterday,  this morning. Prior to going to the site, I will check out the 
suggestions given to me here to see if they work before I allow Alex to be 
disrespectful again. I'm truly surprised there is not a native keystroke to 
mmute voiceover as there is a trackpad gesture. I feel an email going to Apple 
accessibility. Let's hope it doesn't take them six updates to get it done.   

Pam Francis


On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@icloud.com 
wrote:

Is there no actual keystroke to mute VO by default then? 


On 5 Apr 2015, at 13:06, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:

  If you have a braille display, you can use space with M to mute 
voiceover.

On Apr 5, 2015, at 6:48 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

 

You can also use the keyboard commander. For example, I have it set 
so option-m mutes sounds and speech. To do this:

 

* Open the VoiceOver Utility and choose Commanders from the 
Categories table.

* Select the Keyboard Commander tab, be sure the commander is on by 
checking the checkbox, and move past the table to the Add button. Activate that 
button.

* You will be placed on a text field, even if VoiceOver doesn't 
tell you so. Press the key to be used (such as M), then vo-right to the menu 
button.

* In that menu is a list of commands, sorted into categories. I 
believe the item you want, Mute VoiceOver, is in the Sounds submenu. Once you 
find it, hit enter.

* Hit option-m to make sure things worked (it's a toggle, so 
hitting it again will bring VO back). If it worked, you can close the Utility. 
If not, let the list know and we'll try to figure out what happened.

  On Apr 5, 2015, at 5:16 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:

   

  Hi Pam. If I remember correctly, with track pad commander on, you 
could double tap with three fingers on the trackpad to mute Voiceover just like 
double tapping with three fingers to mute it on an iPhone. If I'm wrong about 
this, someone correct me.

  Shawn
  Sent From My White

Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

2015-04-05 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Excuse me, dear god as you must be, notice the lower case g, but I offered a 
sollution had you read my initial e-mail, so don't start with me today, as 
frankly? I'm not in the mood for it!  If you don't want my help just say so, 
and I'll shut up, but stop attacking me for only trying to help.  For your 
apparent information, take it or leave it, I'm perfectly aware of there 
being multiple ways.


Fine! Focker?  go to Terminal, then type,

sudo killall voiceover

Put your admin pwd in, whack enter, oh and careful from your anger reading 
this, don't want you breaking a key... or a nail... while hitting it...


There!  Another option for ya!  Happy now?

Chris.
- Original Message - 
From: The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover


Chris,
   There is almost always more than one way to accomplish something.
What works for me may not meet your criteria, its irrelevant. Why can't
we just offer the various options and let people choose what works for
them? This constant back and forth does little to further the cause.

   A good trainer would operate with this mindset.

From The Believer. . .
   By way of the Chariots of the
Gods cameth the Aliens who
dwelt amongst the humans,
and bringeth much knowledge.

On 4/5/2015 10:43 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Oh, I didn't mean to imply it wasn't an option.  I just simply meant
that it may would be a bit extreme.  I'm perfectly aware that
command+tab would still work.  Remember, I'm a mac and I O S trainer.
Chris.
---
Check out my web site at:
http://www.clgproductions.net

- Original Message -
*From:* george b mailto:gbma...@gmail.com
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, April 05, 2015 11:30 AM
*Subject:* RE: Keystroke form muting voiceover

Well she want’s to listen to the serman so command f5 works perfect.

If she wants to take notes then she would have to hear voice over as
she says rudely during the serman and from her post she dose not
wish to do that.

There for command f5 works perfect.  And , by the way you still can
do command tab to change to other windows with voice over off.

And if she wants to do this just do command f5 and turn voice back on

*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of
*Christopher-Mark Gilland
*Sent:* Sunday, April 05, 2015 08:21
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

And, as I said, no it doesn't mute it.  That totally disables
Voiceover in a whole and makes it stop running, which could be a
potential issue if she needed to command+tab to other screens.

Yeah, she then could just toggle it back on the same way, then
however, she's right back at square 1 with Alex being himself, so
meh, I don't think so.

Chris.

- Original Message -

*From:*george b mailto:gbma...@gmail.com

*To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

*Sent:*Sunday, April 05, 2015 9:45 AM

*Subject:*RE: Keystroke form muting voiceover

Like Robert said do a command f5 and turn v o off and command f5
to restart…lol doesn’t that mute it

*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Gerry Cook
*Sent:* Sunday, April 05, 2015 06:25
*To:* Macvisionaries List
*Subject:* Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

Hi all! you can try fn key with f 10 as a toggle that would free
up option key for something else. All the best.

cheers gerry have a nice day
Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au 
mailto:gerryc...@optusnet.com.au

Skype: gerry.cook1
Twitter: @gerrycook52

On 5 Apr 2015, at 11:03 pm, ROBERT CARTER
nc5rn...@gmail.com mailto:nc5rn...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

You can simply press command+f5 to toggle VoiceOver off and
toggle it back on with command+f5 when the service is over.

Robert Carter

On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Pamela Francis
gypsykitt...@gmail.com mailto:gypsykitt...@gmail.com
wrote:

Hi everyone,

I plan to listen to a continuation of the services I was
listening to yesterday,  this morning. Prior to going to
the site, I will check out the suggestions given to me
here to see if they work before I allow Alex to be
disrespectful again. I'm truly surprised there is not a
native keystroke to mmute voiceover as there is a
trackpad gesture. I feel

RE: Keystroke form muting voiceover

2015-04-05 Thread george b
Well she want’s to listen to the serman so command f5 works perfect.

 

If she wants to take notes then she would have to hear voice over as she says 
rudely during the serman and from her post she dose not wish to do that.

 

There for command f5 works perfect.  And , by the way you still can do command 
tab to change to other windows with voice over off.

 

And if she wants to do this just do command f5 and turn voice back on

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 08:21
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

 

And, as I said, no it doesn't mute it.  That totally disables Voiceover in a 
whole and makes it stop running, which could be a potential issue if she needed 
to command+tab to other screens.

 

Yeah, she then could just toggle it back on the same way, then however, she's 
right back at square 1 with Alex being himself, so  meh, I don't think so.

 

Chris.

 

- Original Message - 

From: george b mailto:gbma...@gmail.com  

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  

Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 9:45 AM

Subject: RE: Keystroke form muting voiceover

 

Like Robert said do a command f5 and turn v o off and command f5 to restart…lol 
doesn’t that mute it

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerry Cook
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 06:25
To: Macvisionaries List
Subject: Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

 

Hi all! you can try fn key with f 10 as a toggle that would free up option key 
for something else. All the best.

cheers gerry have a nice day
Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au mailto:gerryc...@optusnet.com.au 
Skype: gerry.cook1 
Twitter: @gerrycook52

 

On 5 Apr 2015, at 11:03 pm, ROBERT CARTER nc5rn...@gmail.com 
mailto:nc5rn...@gmail.com  wrote:

 

Hi,

 

You can simply press command+f5 to toggle VoiceOver off and toggle it back on 
with command+f5 when the service is over.

 

Robert Carter

 

 

On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com 
mailto:gypsykitt...@gmail.com  wrote:

 

Hi everyone,

I plan to listen to a continuation of the services I was listening to 
yesterday,  this morning. Prior to going to the site, I will check out the 
suggestions given to me here to see if they work before I allow Alex to be 
disrespectful again. I'm truly surprised there is not a native keystroke to 
mmute voiceover as there is a trackpad gesture. I feel an email going to Apple 
accessibility. Let's hope it doesn't take them six updates to get it done.   

Pam Francis


On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@icloud.com 
mailto:danielmcgee...@icloud.com  wrote:

Is there no actual keystroke to mute VO by default then? 


On 5 Apr 2015, at 13:06, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com mailto:d.pra...@me.com 
 wrote:

If you have a braille display, you can use space with M to mute voiceover.

On Apr 5, 2015, at 6:48 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
mailto:mehg...@icloud.com  wrote:

 

You can also use the keyboard commander. For example, I have it set so option-m 
mutes sounds and speech. To do this:

 

* Open the VoiceOver Utility and choose Commanders from the Categories table.

* Select the Keyboard Commander tab, be sure the commander is on by checking 
the checkbox, and move past the table to the Add button. Activate that button.

* You will be placed on a text field, even if VoiceOver doesn't tell you so. 
Press the key to be used (such as M), then vo-right to the menu button.

* In that menu is a list of commands, sorted into categories. I believe the 
item you want, Mute VoiceOver, is in the Sounds submenu. Once you find it, hit 
enter.

* Hit option-m to make sure things worked (it's a toggle, so hitting it again 
will bring VO back). If it worked, you can close the Utility. If not, let the 
list know and we'll try to figure out what happened.

On Apr 5, 2015, at 5:16 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com 
mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com  wrote:

 

Hi Pam. If I remember correctly, with track pad commander on, you could double 
tap with three fingers on the trackpad to mute Voiceover just like double 
tapping with three fingers to mute it on an iPhone. If I'm wrong about this, 
someone correct me.

Shawn
Sent From My White Macbook
- Original Message - From: Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com 
mailto:gypsykitt...@gmail.com 
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 1:12 AM
Subject: Keystroke form muting voiceover


Hi everyone,
I was attempting to listen to a service over the Internet this afternoon. In so 
doing Alex continually seemed to want to give me every notification I would 
never have gotten had I been doing something I could've gotten away from or 
been able to repeat. Normally I don't mind