Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user!
Frank, I already tried these suggestions, and not even they worked. It's OK though, as I plan to hopefully get me an Airport Express fairly soon. Chris. - Original Message - From: Frank Ventura To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 2:18 AM Subject: RE: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! Jumping in here very late but I have had very mixed reliability with internet sharing in OSX. You may want to try: Turn off sharing in system prefs Leave the wy-fy adaptor configured for DHCP and DNS automatically assigned from your router (I assume the Mac has internet access OK) Set the (wired) Ethernet adaptor to a static IP within the range of your router’s IP addressed (198.x.x.x) and set the DNS to something like 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4 Turn on sharing again and make sure wy-fy is shared to Ethernet. Frank From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 5:55 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! Jeff, that would work, but the issue is, then, the receiver only would have LAN access. I need a way to get not just LAN access to the receiver, but it also needs to have specifically internet access, and with the way my office is designed architecturally speaking, there is no way I could gain internet access via ethernet without running cables along the ceiling, which isn't allowed. And please do not tell me then get another office. I'm sorry, but the poster who said that was totally out of line. Here's the thing. Your suggestion is great, but correct me if I am wrong. If I plug the ethernet cable from the Airport Express you suggested to the receiver, that would then connect the receiver via a LAN, and give it a private local area network IP. But then, I'd need a way to connect the WAN port of the Extreme to the internet, which would mean connecting an ethernet cord from the modem to the extreme, right? Well, if so, that isn't gonna happen. The modem is on the same desk as my router which has to be sitting across the room from the receiver. There's just no other way to do this, but to network bridge. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user!
Small correction; the Express can be used as a router as well (but not normally done so). However it does not have many Ethernet ports as the extreme and I do not think you can use it as a print server. Frank From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Berwick Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:39 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! The main difference between the three, as I remember, is: 1. Airport Express is simply an extender, 2. The Extreme is a router and wifi and, 3. The Time Capsule is a router, wifi and disk drive. I suspect you can use the drive as a regular drive, but I'm only using mine for time machine backups, so can't really say for sure. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 11:44 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.commailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I guess, here is my ultimate question: what are the differences in the Express, the Extreme, and the Time Capsle? I’m considering which I want to get. I know the Express would work for my purpose, but I’m wonderring down the road if having the Extreme or what not might be beneficial over having this Linksys router. I love my Linksys, don’t get me wrong, really I do, and seeing it was a birthday gift last year to me, I won’t get rid of it, but I just wonder if I could expand the functionality of my network from the bigger picture if I had an extreme instead of an Express. Also, I do a lot of audio production work, and therefore need a ton, and I do mean a ton of hard disk space, as my work is all uncompressed. OK, yes, I’ll eventually compress to an mp3, but not right away. Anyway, my point is, would it work for me to get a time capsal? I hear that even though those things are mainly used for Time Machine backups, do they have to be? In other words, theoretically, could I use the storage drives on the device as just that… storage drives? Then, connect to them over the network in my Finder from any computer in the house? If so, that would be absolutely brilliant! Chris. On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Jeff Berwick mailingli...@berwick.namemailto:mailingli...@berwick.name wrote: When you go into Airport Utility, you will see an option for devices not on your network. It will be a hexadecimal name (I think) and you click it and then edit it. You'll go through the setup process like that. Anybody else' Express will already be configured, so it won't show up for you--I don't think. At any rate, I don't think you'll have a problem with it. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:27 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.commailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Then, how do you make sure it's detecting your Airport, and not someone elses by mistake? I don't think anyone else around here has one, but just in case... Is it one of these things, I'm gonna start by connecting it via ethernet, not wifi? If so, then that answers my question entirely. Chris. - Original Message - From: Jeff Berwickmailto:mailingli...@berwick.name To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:12 AM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! I think you have to use Airport Utility to set it up; I do not know if there is a web interface. There is no default username/password...It isn't secured until you do the setup. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:00 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.commailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent! I'll definitely give that a try. My only question really remains is, do I have to use the utility to configure things, or is there a way I can log into the router as well via a web based admin interface? Also, do you know what the default login credentials are for the device, until you change it, which of corse, I would do? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jeff Berwickmailto:mailingli...@berwick.name To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 7:23 PM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! When you get the Airport Express home, Launch Airport Utility and you'll see it in the list of additional devices. I have a Time Capsule, so it detects my network automatically and extends it. I don't know if this works with a 3rd party router though. At any rate, it is a simple procedure to make the necessary entries inside Airport Utility to have the Express extend your wifi. Jeff On Apr 26, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.commailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, ok, so in other words, I'd be bridging making my Linksys router carry to the Express, which then would get carried to it's ethernet port, which then in term, would be sent out it's LAN port to my receiver. Brilliant. I may just go that route
RE: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user!
Jumping in here very late but I have had very mixed reliability with internet sharing in OSX. You may want to try: Turn off sharing in system prefs Leave the wy-fy adaptor configured for DHCP and DNS automatically assigned from your router (I assume the Mac has internet access OK) Set the (wired) Ethernet adaptor to a static IP within the range of your router’s IP addressed (198.x.x.x) and set the DNS to something like 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4 Turn on sharing again and make sure wy-fy is shared to Ethernet. Frank From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 5:55 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! Jeff, that would work, but the issue is, then, the receiver only would have LAN access. I need a way to get not just LAN access to the receiver, but it also needs to have specifically internet access, and with the way my office is designed architecturally speaking, there is no way I could gain internet access via ethernet without running cables along the ceiling, which isn't allowed. And please do not tell me then get another office. I'm sorry, but the poster who said that was totally out of line. Here's the thing. Your suggestion is great, but correct me if I am wrong. If I plug the ethernet cable from the Airport Express you suggested to the receiver, that would then connect the receiver via a LAN, and give it a private local area network IP. But then, I'd need a way to connect the WAN port of the Extreme to the internet, which would mean connecting an ethernet cord from the modem to the extreme, right? Well, if so, that isn't gonna happen. The modem is on the same desk as my router which has to be sitting across the room from the receiver. There's just no other way to do this, but to network bridge. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user!
The USB port on the Express is for a printer, yes. Not a disk. Sadly, no AirPort product can turn any printer into an AirPrint printer; now, *that* would have been quite something. But these days all Wi-Fi printers support AirPrint. I went for an HP LaserJet Pro MFP M125MW which is very accessible, if a little pricey. The two Ethernet ports on AirPort Express are Fast Ethernet. Bear this in mind if you are using the ports for bridging on your LAN. The Extreme and Time Capsule Ethernet ports are of course gigabit: four each. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user!
Bridging from Wi-Fi to Ethernet is no trivial matter. Typically the Wi-Fi device must be an access point. In your scenario the only way to go is NAT, i.e. using the sharing method you actually described, which really ought to be working. In Windows there are a panoply of different solutions, some including driver support from the Wi-Fi card, some just emulating the access point function in software. But on Mac, alas, this is much less true. And, honestly, that’s just as well, because software solutions are pretty lame and flaky anyway. I would look at your router, yes. Specifically, I would look at throwing it in the bin, and getting an AirPort Extreme and an AirPort Express, but that’s just my preference. There are other approaches, such as HomePlug, which may very well do what you need without much of the expense (but with much more toxic effects on radio spectrum). It’s over to you. What do you want to do? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user!
Tim, I presume that I need to go in on my router and set its subnet to use 192.168.2.X instead of 192.168.1.X for all things. Right? I say this because I did precisely what you said, and it doesn't work. The only thing I can think is to change that subnet. Let me look up with Linksys smart wifi how to do it. Chris. - Original Message - From: Tim Kilburn To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:08 PM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! Chris, Your scenario should work as you outlined. 1. Make sure you have an active Wi-Fi connection to the Internet on the Mac. 2. Make sure Internet Sharing is not checked. 3. Set the Share from pop-up menu to “Wi-Fi”. 4. Check the Ethernet checkbox within the ports table. 5. Check the box to turn on Internet Sharing. A few things to note. This is normally done the opposite direction whereby your Mac becomes a make-shift Wi-Fi basestation, but the above scenario does work. Changing the order of your network services shouldn’t be needed as when your Ethernet port is configured for Internet Sharing, it will automatically be pushed down from the top of the list. The DHCP service is handled through the Mac itself and will assign a 192.168.2.* IP to whatever devices connect to it via ethernet. A crossover cable is also unnecessary as the Mac will take care of any necessary port switching. I have performed this operation numerous times in the “Mac becomes Wi-Fi Basestation” model, but did test the “Mac becomes Ethernet Bridge” model that you appear to need, and it did work properly as well. One thing that you may need to confirm is that the ethernet port is the only port checked within that table. Sometimes, you’ll find that Bluetooth is also checked, make sure it isn not and that no others are besides ethernet. If the Bluetooth PAN port is checked,, it will take precedent over the ethernet port, and since it doesn’t have a connection, ethernet will get the self-assigned IP. Now, the suggestion by Jeff of using an Airport Express is actually a more reliable method in my opinion. You can connect the Express wirelessly to your existing network, connect the receiver to the Express with the ethernet cable and you’re set. This also allows you to use the Express to stream iTunes music to your sound system either with a digital or analog cable. I also agree that the Airport Extreme to Airport Express is even better, but this will work with your existing router. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Apr 27, 2015, at 08:42, Jeff Berwick mailingli...@berwick.name wrote: When you go into Airport Utility, you will see an option for devices not on your network. It will be a hexadecimal name (I think) and you click it and then edit it. You'll go through the setup process like that. Anybody else' Express will already be configured, so it won't show up for you--I don't think. At any rate, I don't think you'll have a problem with it. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:27 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Then, how do you make sure it's detecting your Airport, and not someone elses by mistake? I don't think anyone else around here has one, but just in case... Is it one of these things, I'm gonna start by connecting it via ethernet, not wifi? If so, then that answers my question entirely. Chris. - Original Message - From: Jeff Berwick To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:12 AM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! I think you have to use Airport Utility to set it up; I do not know if there is a web interface. There is no default username/password...It isn't secured until you do the setup. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:00 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent! I'll definitely give that a try. My only question really remains is, do I have to use the utility to configure things, or is there a way I can log into the router as well via a web based admin interface? Also, do you know what the default login credentials are for the device, until you change it, which of corse, I would do? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jeff Berwick To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 7:23 PM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! When you get the Airport Express home, Launch Airport Utility and you'll see it in the list of additional devices. I have a Time Capsule, so it detects my network automatically and extends it. I don't know if this works with a 3rd party router though. At any rate, it is a simple procedure to make the necessary entries inside
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Because my landlord wont' allow me to do this for some weird reason. Oh wait, I'll shut up. that isn't rellavant about my housing. Oh whoops? Sorry people. Chris. - Original Message - From: Juan Hernandez juanhernande...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 10:55 PM Subject: RE: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! Ok, so he can't have the receiver next to the computer at his desk. So the receiver is on another side of the room. Why can't he just run a cable along the room's edges along the floor to the receiver from his internet router? You can get a 25ft cable for like 20 bucks. Best, -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Schucker Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 7:07 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! In the interest of helping, here's what people are getting at. Hi. I'm trying to make my mac bridge from wifi to Ethernet, so I can connect an Ethernet device to it and give that device internet access. I go into blah on the mac and enter ... I've also tried the command line and ... Can anybody help? Yes, the device might be relevant, but guess what? Your housing situation and so on and so on and so on isn't, because you want to bridge your wifi to your Ethernet port so something connected to that port can access the internet. That's it. That's your question. It's specific. It's short. You simply don't need the twelve side digressions and the and trust me when I tell you that I've sprinkled it with potato chips and waved a dead chicken over it thirty times while praying to great Cthulhu as prescribed in the seventeenth chapter of the Glockenspiel Network Administrator's Guide, but the third edition which is correct not the newer fourth edition which quite frankly in my opinion is not worth the paper on which it was printed, and there is no way I can use a cable because did I mention that my landlord has rules and these rules are, and also if I had a different computer in a parallel universe this would be easy but since we're in this particular state of quantum collapse and not the one in which my former computer is still functional or the one where I have a totally different but also functional computer that could accomplish this task for me, or ... In short, nobody cares why you want to bridge, or hwy it's an absolute necessity that you do so and do no other thing. You have to bridge, it ain't working. Done. On 4/26/2015 17:44, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Excuse me. I have posted to forums, and yes my housing arrangement is! rellavant, because if it was not rellavent, I would a just plugged it directly to my router, and bam! Problem solved. I can't with how things are arranged, so yes, it most certainly is! rellavent. Further, this is rellavent for the list, as isn't this list about the mac? Am I not trying to achieve this with a mac computer? There! OK then! Secondly, no one has had any idea in any of the forums I've posted to. I'd ask if you want me to put links to the forum discussions I created on to a virtual ciber fried poopoo platter for you to see, but what good would it do? Finally, you saying that I am being over hyper sensitive? Well, pardon me for asking a question. What the heck do you all want me to do? When I'm very brief with no, in your word, narrative, you all tell me I'm not specific enough. Then, when I try to elaborate, and be specific, you all cut off my balls for being too lengthy and for being a major attitude causer. So, make up your minds, with all due respect. Do you want me to give precise and con! cised info, or do you want the little snippits which don't seem to help you all. I obviously cannot win, so I may as well quit trying! Chris. - Original Message - *From:* gs mailto:geoffsli...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 6:18 PM *Subject:* Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! This list may not be the best forum to get a definitive response with regard to a specific network question like this. Instead of the condescending attitude, just go to the proper forum and narrow your question sufficiently. Work on the narrative skills and get down the the issue. You are obviously doing something wrong and not considering something with regard to the configuration. I've seen similar dilemmas but it's been a while and network bridging can be tricky, especially with something like an A/v receiver where one may not have ultimate control over how it decides to connect. I have more experience with these situations with Windows than with the Mac. And , of course, it may be that there is no solution. I admit I've read
Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user!
Thanks - Original Message - From: John Schucker khomu...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 10:06 PM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! In the interest of helping, here's what people are getting at. Hi. I'm trying to make my mac bridge from wifi to Ethernet, so I can connect an Ethernet device to it and give that device internet access. I go into blah on the mac and enter ... I've also tried the command line and ... Can anybody help? Yes, the device might be relevant, but guess what? Your housing situation and so on and so on and so on isn't, because you want to bridge your wifi to your Ethernet port so something connected to that port can access the internet. That's it. That's your question. It's specific. It's short. You simply don't need the twelve side digressions and the and trust me when I tell you that I've sprinkled it with potato chips and waved a dead chicken over it thirty times while praying to great Cthulhu as prescribed in the seventeenth chapter of the Glockenspiel Network Administrator's Guide, but the third edition which is correct not the newer fourth edition which quite frankly in my opinion is not worth the paper on which it was printed, and there is no way I can use a cable because did I mention that my landlord has rules and these rules are, and also if I had a different computer in a parallel universe this would be easy but since we're in this particular state of quantum collapse and not the one in which my former computer is still functional or the one where I have a totally different but also functional computer that could accomplish this task for me, or ... In short, nobody cares why you want to bridge, or hwy it's an absolute necessity that you do so and do no other thing. You have to bridge, it ain't working. Done. On 4/26/2015 17:44, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Excuse me. I have posted to forums, and yes my housing arrangement is! rellavant, because if it was not rellavent, I would a just plugged it directly to my router, and bam! Problem solved. I can't with how things are arranged, so yes, it most certainly is! rellavent. Further, this is rellavent for the list, as isn't this list about the mac? Am I not trying to achieve this with a mac computer? There! OK then! Secondly, no one has had any idea in any of the forums I've posted to. I'd ask if you want me to put links to the forum discussions I created on to a virtual ciber fried poopoo platter for you to see, but what good would it do? Finally, you saying that I am being over hyper sensitive? Well, pardon me for asking a question. What the heck do you all want me to do? When I'm very brief with no, in your word, narrative, you all tell me I'm not specific enough. Then, when I try to elaborate, and be specific, you all cut off my balls for being too lengthy and for being a major attitude causer. So, make up your minds, with all due respect. Do you want me to give precise and con! cised info, or do you want the little snippits which don't seem to help you all. I obviously cannot win, so I may as well quit trying! Chris. - Original Message - *From:* gs mailto:geoffsli...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 6:18 PM *Subject:* Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! This list may not be the best forum to get a definitive response with regard to a specific network question like this. Instead of the condescending attitude, just go to the proper forum and narrow your question sufficiently. Work on the narrative skills and get down the the issue. You are obviously doing something wrong and not considering something with regard to the configuration. I've seen similar dilemmas but it's been a while and network bridging can be tricky, especially with something like an A/v receiver where one may not have ultimate control over how it decides to connect. I have more experience with these situations with Windows than with the Mac. And , of course, it may be that there is no solution. I admit I've read this with quite a lack of diligence and really have not focused on the specific issue because it seems quite like a comedy the way it's presented. I'm sure there are list subscribers who have the knowledge to solve the issue if it indeed can be solved. What I'm getting to is your housing/office situation is quite irrelevant. It takes us rewriting the issue in order to narrow it to the point that we can even start to consider the real problem. Many may not have the patience and can possibly not duplicate your scenario. Maybe seeking a more specialized forum will help. Not that it hurts posting here but without all the condescension. Not trying
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Thank you Brian for your help with this. I really really appreciate it. As for #2, the old laptop is definitely not getting an internet connection, nor a valid IP either. You're correct about the receiver probably not having a built in dhcp server. This said, I don't know how exactly I'd confirm this. Your theory does make sense though. Although, if that is the case, then it doesn't exactly explain why it worked under both Win XP, and under Win 7, or, does it? As for this ethernet cable, I don't think it's a crossover. Chris. - Original Message - From: Brian Moore To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 7:16 PM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! 1. you likely have a port on reciever which is not auto sensing so it will never connect to anything unless you use a ethernet cross over cable since you are connecting to a computer rather than a port on a switch or router. that is the most likely cause. While most gear is auto sensing, it is likely that your reciever is not. this would cause dhcp requests to time out since it can't get an ip from a router it can't reach. 2. to test the connection between your wifi and ethernet on the mac, plug in your old laptop and see if that gets an ip instead of the reciever. I can't comment on this internet sharing thing as I have never used it but bridging is a fairly simple operation and should work. how is your ethernet interface on the mac getting an ip? is that port not connected directly to the reciever? if so, it should also not get an ip unless it is configured statically or your reciever has a dhcp server which I doubt because it is intended as an end point device and not designed to bridge anything. 3. for about 30 bucks you can get a proper bridge device. this is smaller than my hand so could be placed anywhere which would bridge the ethernet on the reciever to your wifi network. so in order. 1. ensure you are using a cross over cable or that both devices on the ends of the ethernet connection are auto-sensing. 2. connect something else to the reciever end of the ethernet connection and see if it gets an ip. then you can test if the bridge is functioning properly. Brian. Contact me on skype: brian.moore follow me on twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123On 26/04/2015 4:57 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: It's not quite that easy. If you saw how my office was configured, there is no room to set up another table. Don't you think if it was that easy, I would have already thought of that by now? I'm not that far blown, with all due respect. This desk I am using extends all the way from one wall all the way to the other side of the room nearly. So I can't put a table on the right side, as the wall is right there. I can't scoot the desk to my left to make room, as then, it's coverring the door entry to the room. I don't understand why every time I bring up a network problem, people always fail to realize that perhaps my setup won't allow this to happen with getting new furnature. Chris. - Original Message - From: Greg Aikens To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 4:15 PM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! Get a small table to set next to your desk for the receiver. Seriously, $5 at Salvation Army or something. On Apr 26, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: As I said in my subject, I don't want to turn anyone off from reading this e-mail. If you genuinely think you can help, just know, no suggestion is stupid. Especially considerring that I've tried everything under the son. At this point, I'm willing to try literally just about anything including throwing the mac across the room, then screaming! LOL! So, a little bit of very brief background. I have a Dell computer which apparently has just bitten the dust. It's about 10 years old. This really isn't rellavent more so than to say I just put it in storage until I figure out what to do with it. I also have a Yamaha hifi dolby/prologic surround sound 5.1 receiver. This receiver has an ethernet port on the back of it which allows you to connect it to an internet wired connection for things like Pandora, Spottify, etc. Get to the point, Chris, you say. I am, I am, I promise. Stick with me on this. Just hear me out for a sec as this is actually incredibly rellavant to my problem. So, here's the issue. The receiver doesn't have wifi capability. It's stricly only able to connect to a network via a hardwired ethernet connection. Well, this would be all fine and dandy except for one thing. I don't have room on my desk with my router to set the receiver up. Therefore, I had to set the receiver up across the room
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I think you have to use Airport Utility to set it up; I do not know if there is a web interface. There is no default username/password...It isn't secured until you do the setup. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:00 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent! I'll definitely give that a try. My only question really remains is, do I have to use the utility to configure things, or is there a way I can log into the router as well via a web based admin interface? Also, do you know what the default login credentials are for the device, until you change it, which of corse, I would do? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jeff Berwick mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 7:23 PM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! When you get the Airport Express home, Launch Airport Utility and you'll see it in the list of additional devices. I have a Time Capsule, so it detects my network automatically and extends it. I don't know if this works with a 3rd party router though. At any rate, it is a simple procedure to make the necessary entries inside Airport Utility to have the Express extend your wifi. Jeff On Apr 26, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, ok, so in other words, I'd be bridging making my Linksys router carry to the Express, which then would get carried to it's ethernet port, which then in term, would be sent out it's LAN port to my receiver. Brilliant. I may just go that route, as to be frankly honest with you, I'd actually been looking at getting an Airport Express. Would an Express work, or do I need an Extreme. If the Express will support extender bridging ability, then that's all I need. Do you have specific directions on how to set the router up as an extender? If it's not too expensive, I'll just go buy one come Friday when I get my paycheck, no worries. I understand better now what you're saying to do. that actually makes perfect sense. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Then, how do you make sure it's detecting your Airport, and not someone elses by mistake? I don't think anyone else around here has one, but just in case... Is it one of these things, I'm gonna start by connecting it via ethernet, not wifi? If so, then that answers my question entirely. Chris. - Original Message - From: Jeff Berwick To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:12 AM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! I think you have to use Airport Utility to set it up; I do not know if there is a web interface. There is no default username/password...It isn't secured until you do the setup. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:00 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent! I'll definitely give that a try. My only question really remains is, do I have to use the utility to configure things, or is there a way I can log into the router as well via a web based admin interface? Also, do you know what the default login credentials are for the device, until you change it, which of corse, I would do? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jeff Berwick To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 7:23 PM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! When you get the Airport Express home, Launch Airport Utility and you'll see it in the list of additional devices. I have a Time Capsule, so it detects my network automatically and extends it. I don't know if this works with a 3rd party router though. At any rate, it is a simple procedure to make the necessary entries inside Airport Utility to have the Express extend your wifi. Jeff On Apr 26, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, ok, so in other words, I'd be bridging making my Linksys router carry to the Express, which then would get carried to it's ethernet port, which then in term, would be sent out it's LAN port to my receiver. Brilliant. I may just go that route, as to be frankly honest with you, I'd actually been looking at getting an Airport Express. Would an Express work, or do I need an Extreme. If the Express will support extender bridging ability, then that's all I need. Do you have specific directions on how to set the router up as an extender? If it's not too expensive, I'll just go buy one come Friday when I get my paycheck, no worries. I understand better now what you're saying to do. that actually makes perfect sense. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I'm gonna try a suggestion given by a list member on another list I also posted to, as he/she might be on to something. If that doesn't work though, then my next, and final resort will definitely be to get an Airport Express. I just hope it'll play nice with my Linksys router. If it won't, then it'll probably take me two months to afford an Extreme as well as an Express. I might also look into some hardware network bridges. I knew all along that would work, but I was really trying to save the trouble of having to go that avenue. It's beginning more and more to look like I don't have much choice though. Chris. - Original Message - From: Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 4:08 AM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! Bridging from Wi-Fi to Ethernet is no trivial matter. Typically the Wi-Fi device must be an access point. In your scenario the only way to go is NAT, i.e. using the sharing method you actually described, which really ought to be working. In Windows there are a panoply of different solutions, some including driver support from the Wi-Fi card, some just emulating the access point function in software. But on Mac, alas, this is much less true. And, honestly, that’s just as well, because software solutions are pretty lame and flaky anyway. I would look at your router, yes. Specifically, I would look at throwing it in the bin, and getting an AirPort Extreme and an AirPort Express, but that’s just my preference. There are other approaches, such as HomePlug, which may very well do what you need without much of the expense (but with much more toxic effects on radio spectrum). It’s over to you. What do you want to do? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Excellent! I'll definitely give that a try. My only question really remains is, do I have to use the utility to configure things, or is there a way I can log into the router as well via a web based admin interface? Also, do you know what the default login credentials are for the device, until you change it, which of corse, I would do? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jeff Berwick To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 7:23 PM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! When you get the Airport Express home, Launch Airport Utility and you'll see it in the list of additional devices. I have a Time Capsule, so it detects my network automatically and extends it. I don't know if this works with a 3rd party router though. At any rate, it is a simple procedure to make the necessary entries inside Airport Utility to have the Express extend your wifi. Jeff On Apr 26, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, ok, so in other words, I'd be bridging making my Linksys router carry to the Express, which then would get carried to it's ethernet port, which then in term, would be sent out it's LAN port to my receiver. Brilliant. I may just go that route, as to be frankly honest with you, I'd actually been looking at getting an Airport Express. Would an Express work, or do I need an Extreme. If the Express will support extender bridging ability, then that's all I need. Do you have specific directions on how to set the router up as an extender? If it's not too expensive, I'll just go buy one come Friday when I get my paycheck, no worries. I understand better now what you're saying to do. that actually makes perfect sense. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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When you go into Airport Utility, you will see an option for devices not on your network. It will be a hexadecimal name (I think) and you click it and then edit it. You'll go through the setup process like that. Anybody else' Express will already be configured, so it won't show up for you--I don't think. At any rate, I don't think you'll have a problem with it. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:27 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Then, how do you make sure it's detecting your Airport, and not someone elses by mistake? I don't think anyone else around here has one, but just in case... Is it one of these things, I'm gonna start by connecting it via ethernet, not wifi? If so, then that answers my question entirely. Chris. - Original Message - From: Jeff Berwick mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:12 AM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! I think you have to use Airport Utility to set it up; I do not know if there is a web interface. There is no default username/password...It isn't secured until you do the setup. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:00 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent! I'll definitely give that a try. My only question really remains is, do I have to use the utility to configure things, or is there a way I can log into the router as well via a web based admin interface? Also, do you know what the default login credentials are for the device, until you change it, which of corse, I would do? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jeff Berwick mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 7:23 PM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! When you get the Airport Express home, Launch Airport Utility and you'll see it in the list of additional devices. I have a Time Capsule, so it detects my network automatically and extends it. I don't know if this works with a 3rd party router though. At any rate, it is a simple procedure to make the necessary entries inside Airport Utility to have the Express extend your wifi. Jeff On Apr 26, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, ok, so in other words, I'd be bridging making my Linksys router carry to the Express, which then would get carried to it's ethernet port, which then in term, would be sent out it's LAN port to my receiver. Brilliant. I may just go that route, as to be frankly honest with you, I'd actually been looking at getting an Airport Express. Would an Express work, or do I need an Extreme. If the Express will support extender bridging ability, then that's all I need. Do you have specific directions on how to set the router up as an extender? If it's not too expensive, I'll just go buy one come Friday when I get my paycheck, no worries. I understand better now what you're saying to do. that actually makes perfect sense. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group
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$300+ for the 2 TB and $400 ish for the 3TB I believe. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 6:15 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I did look up the price of the Extreme, and the Express, but how much is the time capsal? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jeff Berwick mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:39 PM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! The main difference between the three, as I remember, is: 1. Airport Express is simply an extender, 2. The Extreme is a router and wifi and, 3. The Time Capsule is a router, wifi and disk drive. I suspect you can use the drive as a regular drive, but I'm only using mine for time machine backups, so can't really say for sure. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 11:44 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I guess, here is my ultimate question: what are the differences in the Express, the Extreme, and the Time Capsle? I’m considering which I want to get. I know the Express would work for my purpose, but I’m wonderring down the road if having the Extreme or what not might be beneficial over having this Linksys router. I love my Linksys, don’t get me wrong, really I do, and seeing it was a birthday gift last year to me, I won’t get rid of it, but I just wonder if I could expand the functionality of my network from the bigger picture if I had an extreme instead of an Express. Also, I do a lot of audio production work, and therefore need a ton, and I do mean a ton of hard disk space, as my work is all uncompressed. OK, yes, I’ll eventually compress to an mp3, but not right away. Anyway, my point is, would it work for me to get a time capsal? I hear that even though those things are mainly used for Time Machine backups, do they have to be? In other words, theoretically, could I use the storage drives on the device as just that… storage drives? Then, connect to them over the network in my Finder from any computer in the house? If so, that would be absolutely brilliant! Chris. On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Jeff Berwick mailingli...@berwick.name mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name wrote: When you go into Airport Utility, you will see an option for devices not on your network. It will be a hexadecimal name (I think) and you click it and then edit it. You'll go through the setup process like that. Anybody else' Express will already be configured, so it won't show up for you--I don't think. At any rate, I don't think you'll have a problem with it. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:27 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Then, how do you make sure it's detecting your Airport, and not someone elses by mistake? I don't think anyone else around here has one, but just in case... Is it one of these things, I'm gonna start by connecting it via ethernet, not wifi? If so, then that answers my question entirely. Chris. - Original Message - From: Jeff Berwick mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:12 AM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! I think you have to use Airport Utility to set it up; I do not know if there is a web interface. There is no default username/password...It isn't secured until you do the setup. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:00 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent! I'll definitely give that a try. My only question really remains is, do I have to use the utility to configure things, or is there a way I can log into the router as well via a web based admin interface? Also, do you know what the default login credentials are for the device, until you change it, which of corse, I would do? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jeff Berwick mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 7:23 PM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! When you get the Airport Express home, Launch Airport Utility and you'll see it in the list of additional devices. I have a Time Capsule, so it detects my network automatically and extends it. I don't know if this works with a 3rd party router though. At any rate, it is a simple procedure to make the necessary entries inside Airport Utility to have the Express extend your wifi. Jeff On Apr 26, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, ok, so in other words, I'd be bridging making my Linksys router
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Well, Tim, I did what you said. I even went as far as to update the settings on my router so that everything is now within the 192.168.2.X range, but it's doing absolutely no good. This is getting way off topic, so I tell you what... for the sake of everyone's sanity, I'm gonna end this thread here on list. If anyone thinks that they can help me out, shoot me a line privately, and we'll go from there. My e-mail address is: clgillan...@gmail.com Chris. - Original Message - From: Tim Kilburn To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:08 PM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! Chris, Your scenario should work as you outlined. 1. Make sure you have an active Wi-Fi connection to the Internet on the Mac. 2. Make sure Internet Sharing is not checked. 3. Set the Share from pop-up menu to “Wi-Fi”. 4. Check the Ethernet checkbox within the ports table. 5. Check the box to turn on Internet Sharing. A few things to note. This is normally done the opposite direction whereby your Mac becomes a make-shift Wi-Fi basestation, but the above scenario does work. Changing the order of your network services shouldn’t be needed as when your Ethernet port is configured for Internet Sharing, it will automatically be pushed down from the top of the list. The DHCP service is handled through the Mac itself and will assign a 192.168.2.* IP to whatever devices connect to it via ethernet. A crossover cable is also unnecessary as the Mac will take care of any necessary port switching. I have performed this operation numerous times in the “Mac becomes Wi-Fi Basestation” model, but did test the “Mac becomes Ethernet Bridge” model that you appear to need, and it did work properly as well. One thing that you may need to confirm is that the ethernet port is the only port checked within that table. Sometimes, you’ll find that Bluetooth is also checked, make sure it isn not and that no others are besides ethernet. If the Bluetooth PAN port is checked,, it will take precedent over the ethernet port, and since it doesn’t have a connection, ethernet will get the self-assigned IP. Now, the suggestion by Jeff of using an Airport Express is actually a more reliable method in my opinion. You can connect the Express wirelessly to your existing network, connect the receiver to the Express with the ethernet cable and you’re set. This also allows you to use the Express to stream iTunes music to your sound system either with a digital or analog cable. I also agree that the Airport Extreme to Airport Express is even better, but this will work with your existing router. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Apr 27, 2015, at 08:42, Jeff Berwick mailingli...@berwick.name wrote: When you go into Airport Utility, you will see an option for devices not on your network. It will be a hexadecimal name (I think) and you click it and then edit it. You'll go through the setup process like that. Anybody else' Express will already be configured, so it won't show up for you--I don't think. At any rate, I don't think you'll have a problem with it. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:27 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Then, how do you make sure it's detecting your Airport, and not someone elses by mistake? I don't think anyone else around here has one, but just in case... Is it one of these things, I'm gonna start by connecting it via ethernet, not wifi? If so, then that answers my question entirely. Chris. - Original Message - From: Jeff Berwick To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:12 AM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! I think you have to use Airport Utility to set it up; I do not know if there is a web interface. There is no default username/password...It isn't secured until you do the setup. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:00 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent! I'll definitely give that a try. My only question really remains is, do I have to use the utility to configure things, or is there a way I can log into the router as well via a web based admin interface? Also, do you know what the default login credentials are for the device, until you change it, which of corse, I would do? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jeff Berwick To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 7:23 PM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! When you get the Airport Express home, Launch Airport Utility and you'll see it in the list of additional devices. I have a Time Capsule, so it detects my network automatically and extends
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I did look up the price of the Extreme, and the Express, but how much is the time capsal? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jeff Berwick To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:39 PM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! The main difference between the three, as I remember, is: 1. Airport Express is simply an extender, 2. The Extreme is a router and wifi and, 3. The Time Capsule is a router, wifi and disk drive. I suspect you can use the drive as a regular drive, but I'm only using mine for time machine backups, so can't really say for sure. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 11:44 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I guess, here is my ultimate question: what are the differences in the Express, the Extreme, and the Time Capsle? I’m considering which I want to get. I know the Express would work for my purpose, but I’m wonderring down the road if having the Extreme or what not might be beneficial over having this Linksys router. I love my Linksys, don’t get me wrong, really I do, and seeing it was a birthday gift last year to me, I won’t get rid of it, but I just wonder if I could expand the functionality of my network from the bigger picture if I had an extreme instead of an Express. Also, I do a lot of audio production work, and therefore need a ton, and I do mean a ton of hard disk space, as my work is all uncompressed. OK, yes, I’ll eventually compress to an mp3, but not right away. Anyway, my point is, would it work for me to get a time capsal? I hear that even though those things are mainly used for Time Machine backups, do they have to be? In other words, theoretically, could I use the storage drives on the device as just that… storage drives? Then, connect to them over the network in my Finder from any computer in the house? If so, that would be absolutely brilliant! Chris. On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Jeff Berwick mailingli...@berwick.name wrote: When you go into Airport Utility, you will see an option for devices not on your network. It will be a hexadecimal name (I think) and you click it and then edit it. You'll go through the setup process like that. Anybody else' Express will already be configured, so it won't show up for you--I don't think. At any rate, I don't think you'll have a problem with it. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:27 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Then, how do you make sure it's detecting your Airport, and not someone elses by mistake? I don't think anyone else around here has one, but just in case... Is it one of these things, I'm gonna start by connecting it via ethernet, not wifi? If so, then that answers my question entirely. Chris. - Original Message - From: Jeff Berwick To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:12 AM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! I think you have to use Airport Utility to set it up; I do not know if there is a web interface. There is no default username/password...It isn't secured until you do the setup. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:00 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent! I'll definitely give that a try. My only question really remains is, do I have to use the utility to configure things, or is there a way I can log into the router as well via a web based admin interface? Also, do you know what the default login credentials are for the device, until you change it, which of corse, I would do? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jeff Berwick To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 7:23 PM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! When you get the Airport Express home, Launch Airport Utility and you'll see it in the list of additional devices. I have a Time Capsule, so it detects my network automatically and extends it. I don't know if this works with a 3rd party router though. At any rate, it is a simple procedure to make the necessary entries inside Airport Utility to have the Express extend your wifi. Jeff On Apr 26, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, ok, so in other words, I'd be bridging making my Linksys router carry to the Express, which then would get carried to it's ethernet port, which then in term, would be sent out it's LAN port to my receiver. Brilliant. I may just go that route, as to be frankly honest with you, I'd actually been looking at getting an Airport Express. Would
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Yeah, that's way! more than I can spend right now. There went that idea down the crapper! Chris. - Original Message - From: Jeff Berwick To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 6:59 PM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! $300+ for the 2 TB and $400 ish for the 3TB I believe. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 6:15 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I did look up the price of the Extreme, and the Express, but how much is the time capsal? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jeff Berwick To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:39 PM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! The main difference between the three, as I remember, is: 1. Airport Express is simply an extender, 2. The Extreme is a router and wifi and, 3. The Time Capsule is a router, wifi and disk drive. I suspect you can use the drive as a regular drive, but I'm only using mine for time machine backups, so can't really say for sure. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 11:44 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I guess, here is my ultimate question: what are the differences in the Express, the Extreme, and the Time Capsle? I’m considering which I want to get. I know the Express would work for my purpose, but I’m wonderring down the road if having the Extreme or what not might be beneficial over having this Linksys router. I love my Linksys, don’t get me wrong, really I do, and seeing it was a birthday gift last year to me, I won’t get rid of it, but I just wonder if I could expand the functionality of my network from the bigger picture if I had an extreme instead of an Express. Also, I do a lot of audio production work, and therefore need a ton, and I do mean a ton of hard disk space, as my work is all uncompressed. OK, yes, I’ll eventually compress to an mp3, but not right away. Anyway, my point is, would it work for me to get a time capsal? I hear that even though those things are mainly used for Time Machine backups, do they have to be? In other words, theoretically, could I use the storage drives on the device as just that… storage drives? Then, connect to them over the network in my Finder from any computer in the house? If so, that would be absolutely brilliant! Chris. On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Jeff Berwick mailingli...@berwick.name wrote: When you go into Airport Utility, you will see an option for devices not on your network. It will be a hexadecimal name (I think) and you click it and then edit it. You'll go through the setup process like that. Anybody else' Express will already be configured, so it won't show up for you--I don't think. At any rate, I don't think you'll have a problem with it. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:27 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Then, how do you make sure it's detecting your Airport, and not someone elses by mistake? I don't think anyone else around here has one, but just in case... Is it one of these things, I'm gonna start by connecting it via ethernet, not wifi? If so, then that answers my question entirely. Chris. - Original Message - From: Jeff Berwick To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:12 AM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! I think you have to use Airport Utility to set it up; I do not know if there is a web interface. There is no default username/password...It isn't secured until you do the setup. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:00 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent! I'll definitely give that a try. My only question really remains is, do I have to use the utility to configure things, or is there a way I can log into the router as well via a web based admin interface? Also, do you know what the default login credentials are for the device, until you change it, which of corse, I would do? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jeff Berwick To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 7:23 PM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! When you get the Airport Express home, Launch Airport Utility and you'll see it in the list of additional devices. I have a Time Capsule, so it detects my network automatically and extends it. I don't know if this works with a 3rd party router though. At any
Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user!
I guess, here is my ultimate question: what are the differences in the Express, the Extreme, and the Time Capsle? I’m considering which I want to get. I know the Express would work for my purpose, but I’m wonderring down the road if having the Extreme or what not might be beneficial over having this Linksys router. I love my Linksys, don’t get me wrong, really I do, and seeing it was a birthday gift last year to me, I won’t get rid of it, but I just wonder if I could expand the functionality of my network from the bigger picture if I had an extreme instead of an Express. Also, I do a lot of audio production work, and therefore need a ton, and I do mean a ton of hard disk space, as my work is all uncompressed. OK, yes, I’ll eventually compress to an mp3, but not right away. Anyway, my point is, would it work for me to get a time capsal? I hear that even though those things are mainly used for Time Machine backups, do they have to be? In other words, theoretically, could I use the storage drives on the device as just that… storage drives? Then, connect to them over the network in my Finder from any computer in the house? If so, that would be absolutely brilliant! Chris. On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Jeff Berwick mailingli...@berwick.name wrote: When you go into Airport Utility, you will see an option for devices not on your network. It will be a hexadecimal name (I think) and you click it and then edit it. You'll go through the setup process like that. Anybody else' Express will already be configured, so it won't show up for you--I don't think. At any rate, I don't think you'll have a problem with it. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:27 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Then, how do you make sure it's detecting your Airport, and not someone elses by mistake? I don't think anyone else around here has one, but just in case... Is it one of these things, I'm gonna start by connecting it via ethernet, not wifi? If so, then that answers my question entirely. Chris. - Original Message - From: Jeff Berwick mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:12 AM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! I think you have to use Airport Utility to set it up; I do not know if there is a web interface. There is no default username/password...It isn't secured until you do the setup. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:00 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent! I'll definitely give that a try. My only question really remains is, do I have to use the utility to configure things, or is there a way I can log into the router as well via a web based admin interface? Also, do you know what the default login credentials are for the device, until you change it, which of corse, I would do? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jeff Berwick mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 7:23 PM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! When you get the Airport Express home, Launch Airport Utility and you'll see it in the list of additional devices. I have a Time Capsule, so it detects my network automatically and extends it. I don't know if this works with a 3rd party router though. At any rate, it is a simple procedure to make the necessary entries inside Airport Utility to have the Express extend your wifi. Jeff On Apr 26, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, ok, so in other words, I'd be bridging making my Linksys router carry to the Express, which then would get carried to it's ethernet port, which then in term, would be sent out it's LAN port to my receiver. Brilliant. I may just go that route, as to be frankly honest with you, I'd actually been looking at getting an Airport Express. Would an Express work, or do I need an Extreme. If the Express will support extender bridging ability, then that's all I need. Do you have specific directions on how to set the router up as an extender? If it's not too expensive, I'll just go buy one come Friday when I get my paycheck, no worries. I understand better now what you're saying to do. that actually makes perfect sense. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user!
The main difference between the three, as I remember, is: 1. Airport Express is simply an extender, 2. The Extreme is a router and wifi and, 3. The Time Capsule is a router, wifi and disk drive. I suspect you can use the drive as a regular drive, but I'm only using mine for time machine backups, so can't really say for sure. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 11:44 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I guess, here is my ultimate question: what are the differences in the Express, the Extreme, and the Time Capsle? I’m considering which I want to get. I know the Express would work for my purpose, but I’m wonderring down the road if having the Extreme or what not might be beneficial over having this Linksys router. I love my Linksys, don’t get me wrong, really I do, and seeing it was a birthday gift last year to me, I won’t get rid of it, but I just wonder if I could expand the functionality of my network from the bigger picture if I had an extreme instead of an Express. Also, I do a lot of audio production work, and therefore need a ton, and I do mean a ton of hard disk space, as my work is all uncompressed. OK, yes, I’ll eventually compress to an mp3, but not right away. Anyway, my point is, would it work for me to get a time capsal? I hear that even though those things are mainly used for Time Machine backups, do they have to be? In other words, theoretically, could I use the storage drives on the device as just that… storage drives? Then, connect to them over the network in my Finder from any computer in the house? If so, that would be absolutely brilliant! Chris. On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Jeff Berwick mailingli...@berwick.name mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name wrote: When you go into Airport Utility, you will see an option for devices not on your network. It will be a hexadecimal name (I think) and you click it and then edit it. You'll go through the setup process like that. Anybody else' Express will already be configured, so it won't show up for you--I don't think. At any rate, I don't think you'll have a problem with it. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:27 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Then, how do you make sure it's detecting your Airport, and not someone elses by mistake? I don't think anyone else around here has one, but just in case... Is it one of these things, I'm gonna start by connecting it via ethernet, not wifi? If so, then that answers my question entirely. Chris. - Original Message - From: Jeff Berwick mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:12 AM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! I think you have to use Airport Utility to set it up; I do not know if there is a web interface. There is no default username/password...It isn't secured until you do the setup. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:00 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent! I'll definitely give that a try. My only question really remains is, do I have to use the utility to configure things, or is there a way I can log into the router as well via a web based admin interface? Also, do you know what the default login credentials are for the device, until you change it, which of corse, I would do? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jeff Berwick mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 7:23 PM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! When you get the Airport Express home, Launch Airport Utility and you'll see it in the list of additional devices. I have a Time Capsule, so it detects my network automatically and extends it. I don't know if this works with a 3rd party router though. At any rate, it is a simple procedure to make the necessary entries inside Airport Utility to have the Express extend your wifi. Jeff On Apr 26, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, ok, so in other words, I'd be bridging making my Linksys router carry to the Express, which then would get carried to it's ethernet port, which then in term, would be sent out it's LAN port to my receiver. Brilliant. I may just go that route, as to be frankly honest with you, I'd actually been looking at getting an Airport Express. Would an Express work, or do I need an Extreme. If the Express will support extender bridging ability, then that's all I need. Do you have specific directions on how to set the router up as an extender? If it's not too expensive, I'll just go buy one come Friday when I get my
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Hi, Actually, the base functionality of all three devices is the same. The Express, the Extreme and the Time Capsule can all be used as routers, thus, can serve as your connection from the Internet to your home network. the Time Capsule is actually just an Extreme with a built-in HD. Yes, you can use it as a network storage device, but you’ll use up space that would normally be used for Time Machine backups. I’ve found the time Capsule to be a little expensive for what you get, so in my network, I have the Extreme with a USB connected HD. I was able to purchase a 4 TB HD, connect it to the USB port, and the computers think that it’s a Time Capsule when you set up the Time Machine backup schedule. Regarding the Express,it has a less powerful processor in it, so, it cannot handle as many devices and won’t process whatever’s happening quite as quickly. If you have less than 10 connected devices, you may not notice any difference, but it is there. The bonus feature of the Express, in my opinion, is the ability to stream digital quality music to your sound system. When configuring the Express within an existing network, you can have it extend the network or simply join it and provide other services such as streaming.. So, as I mentioned earlier, I like the Extreme to Express scenario as it is a fast, reliable network that handles my internet needs, my music streaming desires, my Apple TV streaming, and keeps everything secure though it’s firewall abilities. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:39, Jeff Berwick mailingli...@berwick.name wrote: The main difference between the three, as I remember, is: 1. Airport Express is simply an extender, 2. The Extreme is a router and wifi and, 3. The Time Capsule is a router, wifi and disk drive. I suspect you can use the drive as a regular drive, but I'm only using mine for time machine backups, so can't really say for sure. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 11:44 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I guess, here is my ultimate question: what are the differences in the Express, the Extreme, and the Time Capsle? I’m considering which I want to get. I know the Express would work for my purpose, but I’m wonderring down the road if having the Extreme or what not might be beneficial over having this Linksys router. I love my Linksys, don’t get me wrong, really I do, and seeing it was a birthday gift last year to me, I won’t get rid of it, but I just wonder if I could expand the functionality of my network from the bigger picture if I had an extreme instead of an Express. Also, I do a lot of audio production work, and therefore need a ton, and I do mean a ton of hard disk space, as my work is all uncompressed. OK, yes, I’ll eventually compress to an mp3, but not right away. Anyway, my point is, would it work for me to get a time capsal? I hear that even though those things are mainly used for Time Machine backups, do they have to be? In other words, theoretically, could I use the storage drives on the device as just that… storage drives? Then, connect to them over the network in my Finder from any computer in the house? If so, that would be absolutely brilliant! Chris. On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Jeff Berwick mailingli...@berwick.name mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name wrote: When you go into Airport Utility, you will see an option for devices not on your network. It will be a hexadecimal name (I think) and you click it and then edit it. You'll go through the setup process like that. Anybody else' Express will already be configured, so it won't show up for you--I don't think. At any rate, I don't think you'll have a problem with it. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:27 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Then, how do you make sure it's detecting your Airport, and not someone elses by mistake? I don't think anyone else around here has one, but just in case... Is it one of these things, I'm gonna start by connecting it via ethernet, not wifi? If so, then that answers my question entirely. Chris. - Original Message - From: Jeff Berwick mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:12 AM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! I think you have to use Airport Utility to set it up; I do not know if there is a web interface. There is no default username/password...It isn't secured until you do the setup. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:00 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent! I'll definitely give that a try. My only question really remains is, do I have to use the utility to configure things, or is there a way
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Chris, Your scenario should work as you outlined. 1. Make sure you have an active Wi-Fi connection to the Internet on the Mac. 2. Make sure Internet Sharing is not checked. 3. Set the Share from pop-up menu to “Wi-Fi”. 4. Check the Ethernet checkbox within the ports table. 5. Check the box to turn on Internet Sharing. A few things to note. This is normally done the opposite direction whereby your Mac becomes a make-shift Wi-Fi basestation, but the above scenario does work. Changing the order of your network services shouldn’t be needed as when your Ethernet port is configured for Internet Sharing, it will automatically be pushed down from the top of the list. The DHCP service is handled through the Mac itself and will assign a 192.168.2.* IP to whatever devices connect to it via ethernet. A crossover cable is also unnecessary as the Mac will take care of any necessary port switching. I have performed this operation numerous times in the “Mac becomes Wi-Fi Basestation” model, but did test the “Mac becomes Ethernet Bridge” model that you appear to need, and it did work properly as well. One thing that you may need to confirm is that the ethernet port is the only port checked within that table. Sometimes, you’ll find that Bluetooth is also checked, make sure it isn not and that no others are besides ethernet. If the Bluetooth PAN port is checked,, it will take precedent over the ethernet port, and since it doesn’t have a connection, ethernet will get the self-assigned IP. Now, the suggestion by Jeff of using an Airport Express is actually a more reliable method in my opinion. You can connect the Express wirelessly to your existing network, connect the receiver to the Express with the ethernet cable and you’re set. This also allows you to use the Express to stream iTunes music to your sound system either with a digital or analog cable. I also agree that the Airport Extreme to Airport Express is even better, but this will work with your existing router. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Apr 27, 2015, at 08:42, Jeff Berwick mailingli...@berwick.name wrote: When you go into Airport Utility, you will see an option for devices not on your network. It will be a hexadecimal name (I think) and you click it and then edit it. You'll go through the setup process like that. Anybody else' Express will already be configured, so it won't show up for you--I don't think. At any rate, I don't think you'll have a problem with it. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:27 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Then, how do you make sure it's detecting your Airport, and not someone elses by mistake? I don't think anyone else around here has one, but just in case... Is it one of these things, I'm gonna start by connecting it via ethernet, not wifi? If so, then that answers my question entirely. Chris. - Original Message - From: Jeff Berwick mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:12 AM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! I think you have to use Airport Utility to set it up; I do not know if there is a web interface. There is no default username/password...It isn't secured until you do the setup. Jeff On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:00 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent! I'll definitely give that a try. My only question really remains is, do I have to use the utility to configure things, or is there a way I can log into the router as well via a web based admin interface? Also, do you know what the default login credentials are for the device, until you change it, which of corse, I would do? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jeff Berwick mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 7:23 PM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! When you get the Airport Express home, Launch Airport Utility and you'll see it in the list of additional devices. I have a Time Capsule, so it detects my network automatically and extends it. I don't know if this works with a 3rd party router though. At any rate, it is a simple procedure to make the necessary entries inside Airport Utility to have the Express extend your wifi. Jeff On Apr 26, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, ok, so in other words, I'd be bridging making my Linksys router carry to the Express, which then would get carried to it's ethernet port, which then in term, would be sent out it's LAN port to my receiver. Brilliant. I may just go that route, as to be frankly honest with you
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Hi, yes, USB 2, I forgot about that limitation. Most of the time it’s not a big deal, but you do have a point for sure. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Apr 27, 2015, at 11:19, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote: Yes, Time Capsule is definitely very pricey, but I ended up buying one anyway because the USB port of the Extreme is only USB 2 and I could easily saturate the bandwidth to it over gigabit Ethernet. If this isn’t really a concern for you, then using an Extreme together with an Express is a very awesome setup. You can turn your DSL modem into a bridge and handle your Internet connection on the Extreme, extending it with an Express, and providing two remote Ethernet ports over WDS. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Yes, Time Capsule is definitely very pricey, but I ended up buying one anyway because the USB port of the Extreme is only USB 2 and I could easily saturate the bandwidth to it over gigabit Ethernet. If this isn’t really a concern for you, then using an Extreme together with an Express is a very awesome setup. You can turn your DSL modem into a bridge and handle your Internet connection on the Extreme, extending it with an Express, and providing two remote Ethernet ports over WDS. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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So Chris, you mean to say that you can't lay a cable along the baseboards in your room? Where do you live? In a maximum-security prison? Does is landlord actually live in the room with you? Weird! Good luck with all of that. Sent from my IPhone On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Because my landlord wont' allow me to do this for some weird reason. Oh wait, I'll shut up. that isn't rellavant about my housing. Oh whoops? Sorry people. Chris. - Original Message - From: Juan Hernandez juanhernande...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 10:55 PM Subject: RE: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! Ok, so he can't have the receiver next to the computer at his desk. So the receiver is on another side of the room. Why can't he just run a cable along the room's edges along the floor to the receiver from his internet router? You can get a 25ft cable for like 20 bucks. Best, -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Schucker Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 7:07 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! In the interest of helping, here's what people are getting at. Hi. I'm trying to make my mac bridge from wifi to Ethernet, so I can connect an Ethernet device to it and give that device internet access. I go into blah on the mac and enter ... I've also tried the command line and ... Can anybody help? Yes, the device might be relevant, but guess what? Your housing situation and so on and so on and so on isn't, because you want to bridge your wifi to your Ethernet port so something connected to that port can access the internet. That's it. That's your question. It's specific. It's short. You simply don't need the twelve side digressions and the and trust me when I tell you that I've sprinkled it with potato chips and waved a dead chicken over it thirty times while praying to great Cthulhu as prescribed in the seventeenth chapter of the Glockenspiel Network Administrator's Guide, but the third edition which is correct not the newer fourth edition which quite frankly in my opinion is not worth the paper on which it was printed, and there is no way I can use a cable because did I mention that my landlord has rules and these rules are, and also if I had a different computer in a parallel universe this would be easy but since we're in this particular state of quantum collapse and not the one in which my former computer is still functional or the one where I have a totally different but also functional computer that could accomplish this task for me, or ... In short, nobody cares why you want to bridge, or hwy it's an absolute necessity that you do so and do no other thing. You have to bridge, it ain't working. Done. On 4/26/2015 17:44, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Excuse me. I have posted to forums, and yes my housing arrangement is! rellavant, because if it was not rellavent, I would a just plugged it directly to my router, and bam! Problem solved. I can't with how things are arranged, so yes, it most certainly is! rellavent. Further, this is rellavent for the list, as isn't this list about the mac? Am I not trying to achieve this with a mac computer? There! OK then! Secondly, no one has had any idea in any of the forums I've posted to. I'd ask if you want me to put links to the forum discussions I created on to a virtual ciber fried poopoo platter for you to see, but what good would it do? Finally, you saying that I am being over hyper sensitive? Well, pardon me for asking a question. What the heck do you all want me to do? When I'm very brief with no, in your word, narrative, you all tell me I'm not specific enough. Then, when I try to elaborate, and be specific, you all cut off my balls for being too lengthy and for being a major attitude causer. So, make up your minds, with all due respect. Do you want me to give precise and con! cised info, or do you want the little snippits which don't seem to help you all. I obviously cannot win, so I may as well quit trying! Chris. - Original Message - *From:* gs mailto:geoffsli...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 6:18 PM *Subject:* Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! This list may not be the best forum to get a definitive response with regard to a specific network question like this. Instead of the condescending attitude, just go to the proper forum and narrow your question sufficiently. Work on the narrative skills and get down the the issue. You are obviously doing something wrong and not considering
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This list may not be the best forum to get a definitive response with regard to a specific network question like this. Instead of the condescending attitude, just go to the proper forum and narrow your question sufficiently. Work on the narrative skills and get down the the issue. You are obviously doing something wrong and not considering something with regard to the configuration. I've seen similar dilemmas but it's been a while and network bridging can be tricky, especially with something like an A/v receiver where one may not have ultimate control over how it decides to connect. I have more experience with these situations with Windows than with the Mac. And , of course, it may be that there is no solution. I admit I've read this with quite a lack of diligence and really have not focused on the specific issue because it seems quite like a comedy the way it's presented. I'm sure there are list subscribers who have the knowledge to solve the issue if it indeed can be solved. What I'm getting to is your housing/office situation is quite irrelevant. It takes us rewriting the issue in order to narrow it to the point that we can even start to consider the real problem. Many may not have the patience and can possibly not duplicate your scenario. Maybe seeking a more specialized forum will help. Not that it hurts posting here but without all the condescension. Not trying to be all that harsh here but you seem to be hypersensitive to the reactions you're getting. There's a reason why. On Apr 26, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Jeff, that would work, but the issue is, then, the receiver only would have LAN access. I need a way to get not just LAN access to the receiver, but it also needs to have specifically internet access, and with the way my office is designed architecturally speaking, there is no way I could gain internet access via ethernet without running cables along the ceiling, which isn't allowed. And please do not tell me then get another office. I'm sorry, but the poster who said that was totally out of line. Here's the thing. Your suggestion is great, but correct me if I am wrong. If I plug the ethernet cable from the Airport Express you suggested to the receiver, that would then connect the receiver via a LAN, and give it a private local area network IP. But then, I'd need a way to connect the WAN port of the Extreme to the internet, which would mean connecting an ethernet cord from the modem to the extreme, right? Well, if so, that isn't gonna happen. The modem is on the same desk as my router which has to be sitting across the room from the receiver. There's just no other way to do this, but to network bridge. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Chris, First things first. Lose the attitude (it is unhealthy). Second thing, keep it brief and get to the point (you do not need to write novels). Third, read the above again until you understand. You do not help yourself when you resort to juvenile level talk. Now, I will contribute my own solution. Find a Chris friendly location where you are not restricted. From The Believer. . . By way of the Chariots of the Gods cameth the Aliens who dwelt amongst the humans, and bringeth much knowledge. On 4/26/2015 2:32 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Guys, if you're not gonna help, just say so, but don't be an ass wipe about it. Why is it any time I have a basic problem, you all are more! than willing to help, but if I have something like this that is more advanced, you all make smart butt remarks! Frankly, I'm growing real sick of it! Chris. - Original Message - *From:* george b mailto:gbma...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 5:03 PM *Subject:* RE: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! Well then get a new office *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Christopher-Mark Gilland *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 13:58 *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! It's not quite that easy. If you saw how my office was configured, there is no room to set up another table. Don't you think if it was that easy, I would have already thought of that by now? I'm not that far blown, with all due respect. This desk I am using extends all the way from one wall all the way to the other side of the room nearly. So I can't put a table on the right side, as the wall is right there. I can't scoot the desk to my left to make room, as then, it's coverring the door entry to the room. I don't understand why every time I bring up a network problem, people always fail to realize that perhaps my setup won't allow this to happen with getting new furnature. Chris. - Original Message - *From:*Greg Aikens mailto:gpaik...@gmail.com *To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:*Sunday, April 26, 2015 4:15 PM *Subject:*Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! Get a small table to set next to your desk for the receiver. Seriously, $5 at Salvation Army or something. On Apr 26, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: As I said in my subject, I don't want to turn anyone off from reading this e-mail. If you genuinely think you can help, just know, no suggestion is stupid. Especially considerring that I've tried everything under the son. At this point, I'm willing to try literally just about anything including throwing the mac across the room, then screaming! LOL! So, a little bit of very brief background. I have a Dell computer which apparently has just bitten the dust. It's about 10 years old. This really isn't rellavent more so than to say I just put it in storage until I figure out what to do with it. I also have a Yamaha hifi dolby/prologic surround sound 5.1 receiver. This receiver has an ethernet port on the back of it which allows you to connect it to an internet wired connection for things like Pandora, Spottify, etc. Get to the point, Chris, you say. I am, I am, I promise. Stick with me on this. Just hear me out for a sec as this is actually incredibly rellavant to my problem. So, here's the issue. The receiver doesn't have wifi capability. It's stricly only able to connect to a network via a hardwired ethernet connection. Well, this would be all fine and dandy except for one thing. I don't have room on my desk with my router to set the receiver up. Therefore, I had to set the receiver up across the room beside that old busted Dell machine. Due to home regulations set by my landlord, I cannot tack anything to the walls, nor use double sided tape, or anything of the sort, nor can I tack anything across my ceiling. Therefore, there went using a token ringed topology, let alone a PTP host/client configuration. Therefore, what I was doing was connecting via wifi
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Excuse me. I have posted to forums, and yes my housing arrangement is! rellavant, because if it was not rellavent, I would a just plugged it directly to my router, and bam! Problem solved. I can't with how things are arranged, so yes, it most certainly is! rellavent. Further, this is rellavent for the list, as isn't this list about the mac? Am I not trying to achieve this with a mac computer? There! OK then! Secondly, no one has had any idea in any of the forums I've posted to. I'd ask if you want me to put links to the forum discussions I created on to a virtual ciber fried poopoo platter for you to see, but what good would it do? Finally, you saying that I am being over hyper sensitive? Well, pardon me for asking a question. What the heck do you all want me to do? When I'm very brief with no, in your word, narrative, you all tell me I'm not specific enough. Then, when I try to elaborate, and be specific, you all cut off my balls for being too lengthy and for being a major attitude causer. So, make up your minds, with all due respect. Do you want me to give precise and con! cised info, or do you want the little snippits which don't seem to help you all. I obviously cannot win, so I may as well quit trying! Chris. - Original Message - From: gs To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 6:18 PM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! This list may not be the best forum to get a definitive response with regard to a specific network question like this. Instead of the condescending attitude, just go to the proper forum and narrow your question sufficiently. Work on the narrative skills and get down the the issue. You are obviously doing something wrong and not considering something with regard to the configuration. I've seen similar dilemmas but it's been a while and network bridging can be tricky, especially with something like an A/v receiver where one may not have ultimate control over how it decides to connect. I have more experience with these situations with Windows than with the Mac. And , of course, it may be that there is no solution. I admit I've read this with quite a lack of diligence and really have not focused on the specific issue because it seems quite like a comedy the way it's presented. I'm sure there are list subscribers who have the knowledge to solve the issue if it indeed can be solved. What I'm getting to is your housing/office situation is quite irrelevant. It takes us rewriting the issue in order to narrow it to the point that we can even start to consider the real problem. Many may not have the patience and can possibly not duplicate your scenario. Maybe seeking a more specialized forum will help. Not that it hurts posting here but without all the condescension. Not trying to be all that harsh here but you seem to be hypersensitive to the reactions you're getting. There's a reason why. On Apr 26, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Jeff, that would work, but the issue is, then, the receiver only would have LAN access. I need a way to get not just LAN access to the receiver, but it also needs to have specifically internet access, and with the way my office is designed architecturally speaking, there is no way I could gain internet access via ethernet without running cables along the ceiling, which isn't allowed. And please do not tell me then get another office. I'm sorry, but the poster who said that was totally out of line. Here's the thing. Your suggestion is great, but correct me if I am wrong. If I plug the ethernet cable from the Airport Express you suggested to the receiver, that would then connect the receiver via a LAN, and give it a private local area network IP. But then, I'd need a way to connect the WAN port of the Extreme to the internet, which would mean connecting an ethernet cord from the modem to the extreme, right? Well, if so, that isn't gonna happen. The modem is on the same desk as my router which has to be sitting across the room from the receiver. There's just no other way to do this, but to network bridge. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries
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The Airport Express is wireless and serves to extend your network. So, your router send a wireless signal to the Airport Express and the Airport Express send a wired connection, through the ethernet cable, to your Receiver. On Apr 26, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Jeff, that would work, but the issue is, then, the receiver only would have LAN access. I need a way to get not just LAN access to the receiver, but it also needs to have specifically internet access, and with the way my office is designed architecturally speaking, there is no way I could gain internet access via ethernet without running cables along the ceiling, which isn't allowed. And please do not tell me then get another office. I'm sorry, but the poster who said that was totally out of line. Here's the thing. Your suggestion is great, but correct me if I am wrong. If I plug the ethernet cable from the Airport Express you suggested to the receiver, that would then connect the receiver via a LAN, and give it a private local area network IP. But then, I'd need a way to connect the WAN port of the Extreme to the internet, which would mean connecting an ethernet cord from the modem to the extreme, right? Well, if so, that isn't gonna happen. The modem is on the same desk as my router which has to be sitting across the room from the receiver. There's just no other way to do this, but to network bridge. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Thank you so much G S good call From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gs Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 15:18 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! This list may not be the best forum to get a definitive response with regard to a specific network question like this. Instead of the condescending attitude, just go to the proper forum and narrow your question sufficiently. Work on the narrative skills and get down the the issue. You are obviously doing something wrong and not considering something with regard to the configuration. I've seen similar dilemmas but it's been a while and network bridging can be tricky, especially with something like an A/v receiver where one may not have ultimate control over how it decides to connect. I have more experience with these situations with Windows than with the Mac. And , of course, it may be that there is no solution. I admit I've read this with quite a lack of diligence and really have not focused on the specific issue because it seems quite like a comedy the way it's presented. I'm sure there are list subscribers who have the knowledge to solve the issue if it indeed can be solved. What I'm getting to is your housing/office situation is quite irrelevant. It takes us rewriting the issue in order to narrow it to the point that we can even start to consider the real problem. Many may not have the patience and can possibly not duplicate your scenario. Maybe seeking a more specialized forum will help. Not that it hurts posting here but without all the condescension. Not trying to be all that harsh here but you seem to be hypersensitive to the reactions you're getting. There's a reason why. On Apr 26, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Jeff, that would work, but the issue is, then, the receiver only would have LAN access. I need a way to get not just LAN access to the receiver, but it also needs to have specifically internet access, and with the way my office is designed architecturally speaking, there is no way I could gain internet access via ethernet without running cables along the ceiling, which isn't allowed. And please do not tell me then get another office. I'm sorry, but the poster who said that was totally out of line. Here's the thing. Your suggestion is great, but correct me if I am wrong. If I plug the ethernet cable from the Airport Express you suggested to the receiver, that would then connect the receiver via a LAN, and give it a private local area network IP. But then, I'd need a way to connect the WAN port of the Extreme to the internet, which would mean connecting an ethernet cord from the modem to the extreme, right? Well, if so, that isn't gonna happen. The modem is on the same desk as my router which has to be sitting across the room from the receiver. There's just no other way to do this, but to network bridge. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Oh, ok, so in other words, I'd be bridging making my Linksys router carry to the Express, which then would get carried to it's ethernet port, which then in term, would be sent out it's LAN port to my receiver. Brilliant. I may just go that route, as to be frankly honest with you, I'd actually been looking at getting an Airport Express. Would an Express work, or do I need an Extreme. If the Express will support extender bridging ability, then that's all I need. Do you have specific directions on how to set the router up as an extender? If it's not too expensive, I'll just go buy one come Friday when I get my paycheck, no worries. I understand better now what you're saying to do. that actually makes perfect sense. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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1. you likely have a port on reciever which is not auto sensing so it will never connect to anything unless you use a ethernet cross over cable since you are connecting to a computer rather than a port on a switch or router. that is the most likely cause. While most gear is auto sensing, it is likely that your reciever is not. this would cause dhcp requests to time out since it can't get an ip from a router it can't reach. 2. to test the connection between your wifi and ethernet on the mac, plug in your old laptop and see if that gets an ip instead of the reciever. I can't comment on this internet sharing thing as I have never used it but bridging is a fairly simple operation and should work. how is your ethernet interface on the mac getting an ip? is that port not connected directly to the reciever? if so, it should also not get an ip unless it is configured statically or your reciever has a dhcp server which I doubt because it is intended as an end point device and not designed to bridge anything. 3. for about 30 bucks you can get a proper bridge device. this is smaller than my hand so could be placed anywhere which would bridge the ethernet on the reciever to your wifi network. so in order. 1. ensure you are using a cross over cable or that both devices on the ends of the ethernet connection are auto-sensing. 2. connect something else to the reciever end of the ethernet connection and see if it gets an ip. then you can test if the bridge is functioning properly. Brian. Contact me on skype: brian.moore follow me on twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123 On 26/04/2015 4:57 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: It's not quite that easy. If you saw how my office was configured, there is no room to set up another table. Don't you think if it was that easy, I would have already thought of that by now? I'm not that far blown, with all due respect. This desk I am using extends all the way from one wall all the way to the other side of the room nearly. So I can't put a table on the right side, as the wall is right there. I can't scoot the desk to my left to make room, as then, it's coverring the door entry to the room. I don't understand why every time I bring up a network problem, people always fail to realize that perhaps my setup won't allow this to happen with getting new furnature. Chris. - Original Message - *From:* Greg Aikens mailto:gpaik...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 4:15 PM *Subject:* Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! Get a small table to set next to your desk for the receiver. Seriously, $5 at Salvation Army or something. On Apr 26, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: As I said in my subject, I don't want to turn anyone off from reading this e-mail. If you genuinely think you can help, just know, no suggestion is stupid. Especially considerring that I've tried everything under the son. At this point, I'm willing to try literally just about anything including throwing the mac across the room, then screaming! LOL! So, a little bit of very brief background. I have a Dell computer which apparently has just bitten the dust. It's about 10 years old. This really isn't rellavent more so than to say I just put it in storage until I figure out what to do with it. I also have a Yamaha hifi dolby/prologic surround sound 5.1 receiver. This receiver has an ethernet port on the back of it which allows you to connect it to an internet wired connection for things like Pandora, Spottify, etc. Get to the point, Chris, you say. I am, I am, I promise. Stick with me on this. Just hear me out for a sec as this is actually incredibly rellavant to my problem. So, here's the issue. The receiver doesn't have wifi capability. It's stricly only able to connect to a network via a hardwired ethernet connection. Well, this would be all fine and dandy except for one thing. I don't have room on my desk with my router to set the receiver up. Therefore, I had to set the receiver up across the room beside that old busted Dell machine. Due to home regulations set by my landlord, I cannot tack anything to the walls, nor use double sided tape, or anything of the sort, nor can I tack anything across my ceiling. Therefore, there went using a token ringed topology, let alone a PTP host/client configuration. Therefore, what I was doing was connecting via wifi to my home network's router across the room. This supplied internet connectivity to me on the Dell machine. Then what I did was, I ran an ethernet cable from the on board ethernet port on the back of the Dell tower to the ethernet
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Never mind. I'll just buy the Airport express and be done with it, and not ask any more questions on list, since it's obvious, that Jeff is pretty much the only one who really dilligently seems to have wanted to help me. Sorry for ruinning the day of your's that probably had no meaning in the first place even before I came along. Chris. - Original Message - From: george b To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 6:42 PM Subject: RE: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! Thank you so much G S good call From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gs Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 15:18 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! This list may not be the best forum to get a definitive response with regard to a specific network question like this. Instead of the condescending attitude, just go to the proper forum and narrow your question sufficiently. Work on the narrative skills and get down the the issue. You are obviously doing something wrong and not considering something with regard to the configuration. I've seen similar dilemmas but it's been a while and network bridging can be tricky, especially with something like an A/v receiver where one may not have ultimate control over how it decides to connect. I have more experience with these situations with Windows than with the Mac. And , of course, it may be that there is no solution. I admit I've read this with quite a lack of diligence and really have not focused on the specific issue because it seems quite like a comedy the way it's presented. I'm sure there are list subscribers who have the knowledge to solve the issue if it indeed can be solved. What I'm getting to is your housing/office situation is quite irrelevant. It takes us rewriting the issue in order to narrow it to the point that we can even start to consider the real problem. Many may not have the patience and can possibly not duplicate your scenario. Maybe seeking a more specialized forum will help. Not that it hurts posting here but without all the condescension. Not trying to be all that harsh here but you seem to be hypersensitive to the reactions you're getting. There's a reason why. On Apr 26, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Jeff, that would work, but the issue is, then, the receiver only would have LAN access. I need a way to get not just LAN access to the receiver, but it also needs to have specifically internet access, and with the way my office is designed architecturally speaking, there is no way I could gain internet access via ethernet without running cables along the ceiling, which isn't allowed. And please do not tell me then get another office. I'm sorry, but the poster who said that was totally out of line. Here's the thing. Your suggestion is great, but correct me if I am wrong. If I plug the ethernet cable from the Airport Express you suggested to the receiver, that would then connect the receiver via a LAN, and give it a private local area network IP. But then, I'd need a way to connect the WAN port of the Extreme to the internet, which would mean connecting an ethernet cord from the modem to the extreme, right? Well, if so, that isn't gonna happen. The modem is on the same desk as my router which has to be sitting across the room from the receiver. There's just no other way to do this, but to network bridge. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https
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When you get the Airport Express home, Launch Airport Utility and you'll see it in the list of additional devices. I have a Time Capsule, so it detects my network automatically and extends it. I don't know if this works with a 3rd party router though. At any rate, it is a simple procedure to make the necessary entries inside Airport Utility to have the Express extend your wifi. Jeff On Apr 26, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, ok, so in other words, I'd be bridging making my Linksys router carry to the Express, which then would get carried to it's ethernet port, which then in term, would be sent out it's LAN port to my receiver. Brilliant. I may just go that route, as to be frankly honest with you, I'd actually been looking at getting an Airport Express. Would an Express work, or do I need an Extreme. If the Express will support extender bridging ability, then that's all I need. Do you have specific directions on how to set the router up as an extender? If it's not too expensive, I'll just go buy one come Friday when I get my paycheck, no worries. I understand better now what you're saying to do. that actually makes perfect sense. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Get a small table to set next to your desk for the receiver. Seriously, $5 at Salvation Army or something. On Apr 26, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: As I said in my subject, I don't want to turn anyone off from reading this e-mail. If you genuinely think you can help, just know, no suggestion is stupid. Especially considerring that I've tried everything under the son. At this point, I'm willing to try literally just about anything including throwing the mac across the room, then screaming! LOL! So, a little bit of very brief background. I have a Dell computer which apparently has just bitten the dust. It's about 10 years old. This really isn't rellavent more so than to say I just put it in storage until I figure out what to do with it. I also have a Yamaha hifi dolby/prologic surround sound 5.1 receiver. This receiver has an ethernet port on the back of it which allows you to connect it to an internet wired connection for things like Pandora, Spottify, etc. Get to the point, Chris, you say. I am, I am, I promise. Stick with me on this. Just hear me out for a sec as this is actually incredibly rellavant to my problem. So, here's the issue. The receiver doesn't have wifi capability. It's stricly only able to connect to a network via a hardwired ethernet connection. Well, this would be all fine and dandy except for one thing. I don't have room on my desk with my router to set the receiver up. Therefore, I had to set the receiver up across the room beside that old busted Dell machine. Due to home regulations set by my landlord, I cannot tack anything to the walls, nor use double sided tape, or anything of the sort, nor can I tack anything across my ceiling. Therefore, there went using a token ringed topology, let alone a PTP host/client configuration. Therefore, what I was doing was connecting via wifi to my home network's router across the room. This supplied internet connectivity to me on the Dell machine. Then what I did was, I ran an ethernet cable from the on board ethernet port on the back of the Dell tower to the ethernet port on my Yamaha receiver. Then, finally, in Windows XP, I was able to go under Control Panel, Networks, select both my wifi connection as well as my ethernet connection, hit the application's key, or rather, right click, same thing, and then select bridge connection from the context menu. Once done, it made my wifi connection carry down to my ethernet port. So, in other words, as long as I have an internet connection on my wifi end, then whatever got plugged into the ethernet port hardwired used that exact same connection. So, now that the Dell system has gone to its grave, and is there rotting, LOL! just kidding, seriously though, I'm trying to achieve this same exact thing with Yosemite 10.10.3. No matter what the heck I do though, try as I may, I just can! not! seem to get this to work. So far, I went into System Preferences, Sharing. Under here, I first selected the internet sharing service in the table. Then, making sure the box in the first column of that table row was unchecked, I moved down and set the share from popup button to wifi. Then, in the share to table, I made sure that the only thing checked was ethernet. Then, I went back to the services table, checked the box beside the Internet sharing service, and started up the service. I should add that all the above things were done while the ethernet cable was plugged in both to the mac, and to the receiver. I then tried getting the receiver to go out online via internet, but it wouldn't. I wondered if something got turned off in the receiver's menus, so I tested with an old laptop I have which doesn't even have wifi ability, only ethernet. It didn't work there either, so trust me. It's not the receiver here that's at fault. I went back to System Prefernces, then to network. I noticed that the first service in the table was eithernet, not wifi, even though wifi is my primary means to connect. Therefore, I went to the actions popup button, and to service order, I think it's called... something to that effect. Using the Voiceover's drag and drop abilities, I dragged the connections around and got them so wifi was first, then Ethernet was second. This way, wifi takes higher priority. This didn't fix the issue. Next, still in network settings, on the ethernet connection, I noticed though connected, it said that it had a self assigned IP address, and will not be able to connect to the internet. The IP address it's showing is: 169.254.105.163. Obviously, from another machine on my network than the mac, if I try pinging this address, it times out instantly. I can't even do a tracert query. It doesn't even complete the first hop if I do. Under Network Settings on the mac, on the Ethernet
RE: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user!
Well then get a new office From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 13:58 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! It's not quite that easy. If you saw how my office was configured, there is no room to set up another table. Don't you think if it was that easy, I would have already thought of that by now? I'm not that far blown, with all due respect. This desk I am using extends all the way from one wall all the way to the other side of the room nearly. So I can't put a table on the right side, as the wall is right there. I can't scoot the desk to my left to make room, as then, it's coverring the door entry to the room. I don't understand why every time I bring up a network problem, people always fail to realize that perhaps my setup won't allow this to happen with getting new furnature. Chris. - Original Message - From: Greg Aikens mailto:gpaik...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 4:15 PM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! Get a small table to set next to your desk for the receiver. Seriously, $5 at Salvation Army or something. On Apr 26, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: As I said in my subject, I don't want to turn anyone off from reading this e-mail. If you genuinely think you can help, just know, no suggestion is stupid. Especially considerring that I've tried everything under the son. At this point, I'm willing to try literally just about anything including throwing the mac across the room, then screaming! LOL! So, a little bit of very brief background. I have a Dell computer which apparently has just bitten the dust. It's about 10 years old. This really isn't rellavent more so than to say I just put it in storage until I figure out what to do with it. I also have a Yamaha hifi dolby/prologic surround sound 5.1 receiver. This receiver has an ethernet port on the back of it which allows you to connect it to an internet wired connection for things like Pandora, Spottify, etc. Get to the point, Chris, you say. I am, I am, I promise. Stick with me on this. Just hear me out for a sec as this is actually incredibly rellavant to my problem. So, here's the issue. The receiver doesn't have wifi capability. It's stricly only able to connect to a network via a hardwired ethernet connection. Well, this would be all fine and dandy except for one thing. I don't have room on my desk with my router to set the receiver up. Therefore, I had to set the receiver up across the room beside that old busted Dell machine. Due to home regulations set by my landlord, I cannot tack anything to the walls, nor use double sided tape, or anything of the sort, nor can I tack anything across my ceiling. Therefore, there went using a token ringed topology, let alone a PTP host/client configuration. Therefore, what I was doing was connecting via wifi to my home network's router across the room. This supplied internet connectivity to me on the Dell machine. Then what I did was, I ran an ethernet cable from the on board ethernet port on the back of the Dell tower to the ethernet port on my Yamaha receiver. Then, finally, in Windows XP, I was able to go under Control Panel, Networks, select both my wifi connection as well as my ethernet connection, hit the application's key, or rather, right click, same thing, and then select bridge connection from the context menu. Once done, it made my wifi connection carry down to my ethernet port. So, in other words, as long as I have an internet connection on my wifi end, then whatever got plugged into the ethernet port hardwired used that exact same connection. So, now that the Dell system has gone to its grave, and is there rotting, LOL! just kidding, seriously though, I'm trying to achieve this same exact thing with Yosemite 10.10.3. No matter what the heck I do though, try as I may, I just can! not! seem to get this to work. So far, I went into System Preferences, Sharing. Under here, I first selected the internet sharing service in the table. Then, making sure the box in the first column of that table row was unchecked, I moved down and set the share from popup button to wifi. Then, in the share to table, I made sure that the only thing checked was ethernet. Then, I went back to the services table, checked the box beside the Internet sharing service, and started up the service. I should add that all the above things were done while the ethernet cable was plugged in both to the mac, and to the receiver. I then tried getting the receiver to go out online via internet, but it wouldn't
Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user!
Is purchasing an Airport Express an option? I have a couple of these and find them quite useful. All you would then need is an available plug and you can connect your receiver directly to it with an ethernet cable. Hth, Jeff On Apr 26, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: As I said in my subject, I don't want to turn anyone off from reading this e-mail. If you genuinely think you can help, just know, no suggestion is stupid. Especially considerring that I've tried everything under the son. At this point, I'm willing to try literally just about anything including throwing the mac across the room, then screaming! LOL! So, a little bit of very brief background. I have a Dell computer which apparently has just bitten the dust. It's about 10 years old. This really isn't rellavent more so than to say I just put it in storage until I figure out what to do with it. I also have a Yamaha hifi dolby/prologic surround sound 5.1 receiver. This receiver has an ethernet port on the back of it which allows you to connect it to an internet wired connection for things like Pandora, Spottify, etc. Get to the point, Chris, you say. I am, I am, I promise. Stick with me on this. Just hear me out for a sec as this is actually incredibly rellavant to my problem. So, here's the issue. The receiver doesn't have wifi capability. It's stricly only able to connect to a network via a hardwired ethernet connection. Well, this would be all fine and dandy except for one thing. I don't have room on my desk with my router to set the receiver up. Therefore, I had to set the receiver up across the room beside that old busted Dell machine. Due to home regulations set by my landlord, I cannot tack anything to the walls, nor use double sided tape, or anything of the sort, nor can I tack anything across my ceiling. Therefore, there went using a token ringed topology, let alone a PTP host/client configuration. Therefore, what I was doing was connecting via wifi to my home network's router across the room. This supplied internet connectivity to me on the Dell machine. Then what I did was, I ran an ethernet cable from the on board ethernet port on the back of the Dell tower to the ethernet port on my Yamaha receiver. Then, finally, in Windows XP, I was able to go under Control Panel, Networks, select both my wifi connection as well as my ethernet connection, hit the application's key, or rather, right click, same thing, and then select bridge connection from the context menu. Once done, it made my wifi connection carry down to my ethernet port. So, in other words, as long as I have an internet connection on my wifi end, then whatever got plugged into the ethernet port hardwired used that exact same connection. So, now that the Dell system has gone to its grave, and is there rotting, LOL! just kidding, seriously though, I'm trying to achieve this same exact thing with Yosemite 10.10.3. No matter what the heck I do though, try as I may, I just can! not! seem to get this to work. So far, I went into System Preferences, Sharing. Under here, I first selected the internet sharing service in the table. Then, making sure the box in the first column of that table row was unchecked, I moved down and set the share from popup button to wifi. Then, in the share to table, I made sure that the only thing checked was ethernet. Then, I went back to the services table, checked the box beside the Internet sharing service, and started up the service. I should add that all the above things were done while the ethernet cable was plugged in both to the mac, and to the receiver. I then tried getting the receiver to go out online via internet, but it wouldn't. I wondered if something got turned off in the receiver's menus, so I tested with an old laptop I have which doesn't even have wifi ability, only ethernet. It didn't work there either, so trust me. It's not the receiver here that's at fault. I went back to System Prefernces, then to network. I noticed that the first service in the table was eithernet, not wifi, even though wifi is my primary means to connect. Therefore, I went to the actions popup button, and to service order, I think it's called... something to that effect. Using the Voiceover's drag and drop abilities, I dragged the connections around and got them so wifi was first, then Ethernet was second. This way, wifi takes higher priority. This didn't fix the issue. Next, still in network settings, on the ethernet connection, I noticed though connected, it said that it had a self assigned IP address, and will not be able to connect to the internet. The IP address it's showing is: 169.254.105.163. Obviously, from another machine on my network than the mac, if I try pinging this address, it times out instantly. I can't even do a
Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user!
Jeff, that would work, but the issue is, then, the receiver only would have LAN access. I need a way to get not just LAN access to the receiver, but it also needs to have specifically internet access, and with the way my office is designed architecturally speaking, there is no way I could gain internet access via ethernet without running cables along the ceiling, which isn't allowed. And please do not tell me then get another office. I'm sorry, but the poster who said that was totally out of line. Here's the thing. Your suggestion is great, but correct me if I am wrong. If I plug the ethernet cable from the Airport Express you suggested to the receiver, that would then connect the receiver via a LAN, and give it a private local area network IP. But then, I'd need a way to connect the WAN port of the Extreme to the internet, which would mean connecting an ethernet cord from the modem to the extreme, right? Well, if so, that isn't gonna happen. The modem is on the same desk as my router which has to be sitting across the room from the receiver. There's just no other way to do this, but to network bridge. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user!
It's not quite that easy. If you saw how my office was configured, there is no room to set up another table. Don't you think if it was that easy, I would have already thought of that by now? I'm not that far blown, with all due respect. This desk I am using extends all the way from one wall all the way to the other side of the room nearly. So I can't put a table on the right side, as the wall is right there. I can't scoot the desk to my left to make room, as then, it's coverring the door entry to the room. I don't understand why every time I bring up a network problem, people always fail to realize that perhaps my setup won't allow this to happen with getting new furnature. Chris. - Original Message - From: Greg Aikens To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 4:15 PM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! Get a small table to set next to your desk for the receiver. Seriously, $5 at Salvation Army or something. On Apr 26, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: As I said in my subject, I don't want to turn anyone off from reading this e-mail. If you genuinely think you can help, just know, no suggestion is stupid. Especially considerring that I've tried everything under the son. At this point, I'm willing to try literally just about anything including throwing the mac across the room, then screaming! LOL! So, a little bit of very brief background. I have a Dell computer which apparently has just bitten the dust. It's about 10 years old. This really isn't rellavent more so than to say I just put it in storage until I figure out what to do with it. I also have a Yamaha hifi dolby/prologic surround sound 5.1 receiver. This receiver has an ethernet port on the back of it which allows you to connect it to an internet wired connection for things like Pandora, Spottify, etc. Get to the point, Chris, you say. I am, I am, I promise. Stick with me on this. Just hear me out for a sec as this is actually incredibly rellavant to my problem. So, here's the issue. The receiver doesn't have wifi capability. It's stricly only able to connect to a network via a hardwired ethernet connection. Well, this would be all fine and dandy except for one thing. I don't have room on my desk with my router to set the receiver up. Therefore, I had to set the receiver up across the room beside that old busted Dell machine. Due to home regulations set by my landlord, I cannot tack anything to the walls, nor use double sided tape, or anything of the sort, nor can I tack anything across my ceiling. Therefore, there went using a token ringed topology, let alone a PTP host/client configuration. Therefore, what I was doing was connecting via wifi to my home network's router across the room. This supplied internet connectivity to me on the Dell machine. Then what I did was, I ran an ethernet cable from the on board ethernet port on the back of the Dell tower to the ethernet port on my Yamaha receiver. Then, finally, in Windows XP, I was able to go under Control Panel, Networks, select both my wifi connection as well as my ethernet connection, hit the application's key, or rather, right click, same thing, and then select bridge connection from the context menu. Once done, it made my wifi connection carry down to my ethernet port. So, in other words, as long as I have an internet connection on my wifi end, then whatever got plugged into the ethernet port hardwired used that exact same connection. So, now that the Dell system has gone to its grave, and is there rotting, LOL! just kidding, seriously though, I'm trying to achieve this same exact thing with Yosemite 10.10.3. No matter what the heck I do though, try as I may, I just can! not! seem to get this to work. So far, I went into System Preferences, Sharing. Under here, I first selected the internet sharing service in the table. Then, making sure the box in the first column of that table row was unchecked, I moved down and set the share from popup button to wifi. Then, in the share to table, I made sure that the only thing checked was ethernet. Then, I went back to the services table, checked the box beside the Internet sharing service, and started up the service. I should add that all the above things were done while the ethernet cable was plugged in both to the mac, and to the receiver. I then tried getting the receiver to go out online via internet, but it wouldn't. I wondered if something got turned off in the receiver's menus, so I tested with an old laptop I have which doesn't even have wifi ability, only ethernet. It didn't work there either, so trust me. It's not the receiver here that's at fault. I went back to System Prefernces, then to network. I noticed that the first service in the table was eithernet, not wifi, even
Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user!
Hello Chris, I’d use instructions to set up an access point rather than a bridge. I’d get hold of a basic router and use it as an access point. But here’s a reversed Mac approach. But the principals apply. http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-make-your-mac-a-wifi-access-point.html http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-make-your-mac-a-wifi-access-point.html On 26 Apr 2015, at 20:58, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: As I said in my subject, I don't want to turn anyone off from reading this e-mail. If you genuinely think you can help, just know, no suggestion is stupid. Especially considerring that I've tried everything under the son. At this point, I'm willing to try literally just about anything including throwing the mac across the room, then screaming! LOL! So, a little bit of very brief background. I have a Dell computer which apparently has just bitten the dust. It's about 10 years old. This really isn't rellavent more so than to say I just put it in storage until I figure out what to do with it. I also have a Yamaha hifi dolby/prologic surround sound 5.1 receiver. This receiver has an ethernet port on the back of it which allows you to connect it to an internet wired connection for things like Pandora, Spottify, etc. Get to the point, Chris, you say. I am, I am, I promise. Stick with me on this. Just hear me out for a sec as this is actually incredibly rellavant to my problem. So, here's the issue. The receiver doesn't have wifi capability. It's stricly only able to connect to a network via a hardwired ethernet connection. Well, this would be all fine and dandy except for one thing. I don't have room on my desk with my router to set the receiver up. Therefore, I had to set the receiver up across the room beside that old busted Dell machine. Due to home regulations set by my landlord, I cannot tack anything to the walls, nor use double sided tape, or anything of the sort, nor can I tack anything across my ceiling. Therefore, there went using a token ringed topology, let alone a PTP host/client configuration. Therefore, what I was doing was connecting via wifi to my home network's router across the room. This supplied internet connectivity to me on the Dell machine. Then what I did was, I ran an ethernet cable from the on board ethernet port on the back of the Dell tower to the ethernet port on my Yamaha receiver. Then, finally, in Windows XP, I was able to go under Control Panel, Networks, select both my wifi connection as well as my ethernet connection, hit the application's key, or rather, right click, same thing, and then select bridge connection from the context menu. Once done, it made my wifi connection carry down to my ethernet port. So, in other words, as long as I have an internet connection on my wifi end, then whatever got plugged into the ethernet port hardwired used that exact same connection. So, now that the Dell system has gone to its grave, and is there rotting, LOL! just kidding, seriously though, I'm trying to achieve this same exact thing with Yosemite 10.10.3. No matter what the heck I do though, try as I may, I just can! not! seem to get this to work. So far, I went into System Preferences, Sharing. Under here, I first selected the internet sharing service in the table. Then, making sure the box in the first column of that table row was unchecked, I moved down and set the share from popup button to wifi. Then, in the share to table, I made sure that the only thing checked was ethernet. Then, I went back to the services table, checked the box beside the Internet sharing service, and started up the service. I should add that all the above things were done while the ethernet cable was plugged in both to the mac, and to the receiver. I then tried getting the receiver to go out online via internet, but it wouldn't. I wondered if something got turned off in the receiver's menus, so I tested with an old laptop I have which doesn't even have wifi ability, only ethernet. It didn't work there either, so trust me. It's not the receiver here that's at fault. I went back to System Prefernces, then to network. I noticed that the first service in the table was eithernet, not wifi, even though wifi is my primary means to connect. Therefore, I went to the actions popup button, and to service order, I think it's called... something to that effect. Using the Voiceover's drag and drop abilities, I dragged the connections around and got them so wifi was first, then Ethernet was second. This way, wifi takes higher priority. This didn't fix the issue. Next, still in network settings, on the ethernet connection, I noticed though connected, it said that it had a self assigned IP address, and will not be able to connect to the internet. The IP
Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user!
did you tried to turn off the receiver by pressing the power button not by just pulling out the power plug of the receiver. try to search the power off of your receiver, then turn it off without taking off the power adapter. On 26 Apr 2015, at 11:08 pm, Jeff Berwick mailingli...@berwick.name wrote: Is purchasing an Airport Express an option? I have a couple of these and find them quite useful. All you would then need is an available plug and you can connect your receiver directly to it with an ethernet cable. Hth, Jeff On Apr 26, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: As I said in my subject, I don't want to turn anyone off from reading this e-mail. If you genuinely think you can help, just know, no suggestion is stupid. Especially considerring that I've tried everything under the son. At this point, I'm willing to try literally just about anything including throwing the mac across the room, then screaming! LOL! So, a little bit of very brief background. I have a Dell computer which apparently has just bitten the dust. It's about 10 years old. This really isn't rellavent more so than to say I just put it in storage until I figure out what to do with it. I also have a Yamaha hifi dolby/prologic surround sound 5.1 receiver. This receiver has an ethernet port on the back of it which allows you to connect it to an internet wired connection for things like Pandora, Spottify, etc. Get to the point, Chris, you say. I am, I am, I promise. Stick with me on this. Just hear me out for a sec as this is actually incredibly rellavant to my problem. So, here's the issue. The receiver doesn't have wifi capability. It's stricly only able to connect to a network via a hardwired ethernet connection. Well, this would be all fine and dandy except for one thing. I don't have room on my desk with my router to set the receiver up. Therefore, I had to set the receiver up across the room beside that old busted Dell machine. Due to home regulations set by my landlord, I cannot tack anything to the walls, nor use double sided tape, or anything of the sort, nor can I tack anything across my ceiling. Therefore, there went using a token ringed topology, let alone a PTP host/client configuration. Therefore, what I was doing was connecting via wifi to my home network's router across the room. This supplied internet connectivity to me on the Dell machine. Then what I did was, I ran an ethernet cable from the on board ethernet port on the back of the Dell tower to the ethernet port on my Yamaha receiver. Then, finally, in Windows XP, I was able to go under Control Panel, Networks, select both my wifi connection as well as my ethernet connection, hit the application's key, or rather, right click, same thing, and then select bridge connection from the context menu. Once done, it made my wifi connection carry down to my ethernet port. So, in other words, as long as I have an internet connection on my wifi end, then whatever got plugged into the ethernet port hardwired used that exact same connection. So, now that the Dell system has gone to its grave, and is there rotting, LOL! just kidding, seriously though, I'm trying to achieve this same exact thing with Yosemite 10.10.3. No matter what the heck I do though, try as I may, I just can! not! seem to get this to work. So far, I went into System Preferences, Sharing. Under here, I first selected the internet sharing service in the table. Then, making sure the box in the first column of that table row was unchecked, I moved down and set the share from popup button to wifi. Then, in the share to table, I made sure that the only thing checked was ethernet. Then, I went back to the services table, checked the box beside the Internet sharing service, and started up the service. I should add that all the above things were done while the ethernet cable was plugged in both to the mac, and to the receiver. I then tried getting the receiver to go out online via internet, but it wouldn't. I wondered if something got turned off in the receiver's menus, so I tested with an old laptop I have which doesn't even have wifi ability, only ethernet. It didn't work there either, so trust me. It's not the receiver here that's at fault. I went back to System Prefernces, then to network. I noticed that the first service in the table was eithernet, not wifi, even though wifi is my primary means to connect. Therefore, I went to the actions popup button, and to service order, I think it's called... something to that effect. Using the Voiceover's drag and drop abilities, I dragged the connections around and got them so wifi was first, then Ethernet was second. This way, wifi takes higher priority. This didn't fix the issue. Next, still in network settings, on
Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user!
Guys, if you're not gonna help, just say so, but don't be an ass wipe about it. Why is it any time I have a basic problem, you all are more! than willing to help, but if I have something like this that is more advanced, you all make smart butt remarks! Frankly, I'm growing real sick of it! Chris. - Original Message - From: george b To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 5:03 PM Subject: RE: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! Well then get a new office From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 13:58 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! It's not quite that easy. If you saw how my office was configured, there is no room to set up another table. Don't you think if it was that easy, I would have already thought of that by now? I'm not that far blown, with all due respect. This desk I am using extends all the way from one wall all the way to the other side of the room nearly. So I can't put a table on the right side, as the wall is right there. I can't scoot the desk to my left to make room, as then, it's coverring the door entry to the room. I don't understand why every time I bring up a network problem, people always fail to realize that perhaps my setup won't allow this to happen with getting new furnature. Chris. - Original Message - From: Greg Aikens To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 4:15 PM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! Get a small table to set next to your desk for the receiver. Seriously, $5 at Salvation Army or something. On Apr 26, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: As I said in my subject, I don't want to turn anyone off from reading this e-mail. If you genuinely think you can help, just know, no suggestion is stupid. Especially considerring that I've tried everything under the son. At this point, I'm willing to try literally just about anything including throwing the mac across the room, then screaming! LOL! So, a little bit of very brief background. I have a Dell computer which apparently has just bitten the dust. It's about 10 years old. This really isn't rellavent more so than to say I just put it in storage until I figure out what to do with it. I also have a Yamaha hifi dolby/prologic surround sound 5.1 receiver. This receiver has an ethernet port on the back of it which allows you to connect it to an internet wired connection for things like Pandora, Spottify, etc. Get to the point, Chris, you say. I am, I am, I promise. Stick with me on this. Just hear me out for a sec as this is actually incredibly rellavant to my problem. So, here's the issue. The receiver doesn't have wifi capability. It's stricly only able to connect to a network via a hardwired ethernet connection. Well, this would be all fine and dandy except for one thing. I don't have room on my desk with my router to set the receiver up. Therefore, I had to set the receiver up across the room beside that old busted Dell machine. Due to home regulations set by my landlord, I cannot tack anything to the walls, nor use double sided tape, or anything of the sort, nor can I tack anything across my ceiling. Therefore, there went using a token ringed topology, let alone a PTP host/client configuration. Therefore, what I was doing was connecting via wifi to my home network's router across the room. This supplied internet connectivity to me on the Dell machine. Then what I did was, I ran an ethernet cable from the on board ethernet port on the back of the Dell tower to the ethernet port on my Yamaha receiver. Then, finally, in Windows XP, I was able to go under Control Panel, Networks, select both my wifi connection as well as my ethernet connection, hit the application's key, or rather, right click, same thing, and then select bridge connection from the context menu. Once done, it made my wifi connection carry down to my ethernet port. So, in other words, as long as I have an internet connection on my wifi end, then whatever got plugged into the ethernet port hardwired used that exact same connection. So, now that the Dell system has gone to its grave, and is there rotting, LOL! just kidding, seriously though, I'm trying to achieve this same exact thing with Yosemite 10.10.3. No matter what the heck I do though, try as I may, I just can! not! seem to get this to work. So far, I went into System Preferences, Sharing. Under here, I first selected the internet sharing service in the table. Then, making sure
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I'm thinking that is what I'm probably gonna have to do is get another router to use. I have one, but oh, looky woo! It doesn't support access point bridging. Let me have a look at that link you provided though. Maybe it'll help. At this point, I'm desperet. Chris. - Original Message - From: Georgina Joyce To: AppleVis List Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 5:05 PM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! Hello Chris, I’d use instructions to set up an access point rather than a bridge. I’d get hold of a basic router and use it as an access point. But here’s a reversed Mac approach. But the principals apply. http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-make-your-mac-a-wifi-access-point.html On 26 Apr 2015, at 20:58, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: As I said in my subject, I don't want to turn anyone off from reading this e-mail. If you genuinely think you can help, just know, no suggestion is stupid. Especially considerring that I've tried everything under the son. At this point, I'm willing to try literally just about anything including throwing the mac across the room, then screaming! LOL! So, a little bit of very brief background. I have a Dell computer which apparently has just bitten the dust. It's about 10 years old. This really isn't rellavent more so than to say I just put it in storage until I figure out what to do with it. I also have a Yamaha hifi dolby/prologic surround sound 5.1 receiver. This receiver has an ethernet port on the back of it which allows you to connect it to an internet wired connection for things like Pandora, Spottify, etc. Get to the point, Chris, you say. I am, I am, I promise. Stick with me on this. Just hear me out for a sec as this is actually incredibly rellavant to my problem. So, here's the issue. The receiver doesn't have wifi capability. It's stricly only able to connect to a network via a hardwired ethernet connection. Well, this would be all fine and dandy except for one thing. I don't have room on my desk with my router to set the receiver up. Therefore, I had to set the receiver up across the room beside that old busted Dell machine. Due to home regulations set by my landlord, I cannot tack anything to the walls, nor use double sided tape, or anything of the sort, nor can I tack anything across my ceiling. Therefore, there went using a token ringed topology, let alone a PTP host/client configuration. Therefore, what I was doing was connecting via wifi to my home network's router across the room. This supplied internet connectivity to me on the Dell machine. Then what I did was, I ran an ethernet cable from the on board ethernet port on the back of the Dell tower to the ethernet port on my Yamaha receiver. Then, finally, in Windows XP, I was able to go under Control Panel, Networks, select both my wifi connection as well as my ethernet connection, hit the application's key, or rather, right click, same thing, and then select bridge connection from the context menu. Once done, it made my wifi connection carry down to my ethernet port. So, in other words, as long as I have an internet connection on my wifi end, then whatever got plugged into the ethernet port hardwired used that exact same connection. So, now that the Dell system has gone to its grave, and is there rotting, LOL! just kidding, seriously though, I'm trying to achieve this same exact thing with Yosemite 10.10.3. No matter what the heck I do though, try as I may, I just can! not! seem to get this to work. So far, I went into System Preferences, Sharing. Under here, I first selected the internet sharing service in the table. Then, making sure the box in the first column of that table row was unchecked, I moved down and set the share from popup button to wifi. Then, in the share to table, I made sure that the only thing checked was ethernet. Then, I went back to the services table, checked the box beside the Internet sharing service, and started up the service. I should add that all the above things were done while the ethernet cable was plugged in both to the mac, and to the receiver. I then tried getting the receiver to go out online via internet, but it wouldn't. I wondered if something got turned off in the receiver's menus, so I tested with an old laptop I have which doesn't even have wifi ability, only ethernet. It didn't work there either, so trust me. It's not the receiver here that's at fault. I went back to System Prefernces, then to network. I noticed that the first service in the table was eithernet, not wifi, even though wifi is my primary means to connect. Therefore, I went to the actions popup button, and to service order, I think it's called... something to that effect. Using the Voiceover's drag and drop abilities, I dragged the connections around and got
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So, I looked at the link you provided. Basically, you're correct. This is the exact reverse of what I need to do. I need to send my wifi connection down to my ethernet port, so my ethernet port has a live internet cennection on it. It looks like this article is trying to go the other way, meaning your ethernet has a connection, and you're trying to therefore share it to your wifi as a hotspot that other devices can then connect to. I've tried going the other way by setting it reverse of this article. I went from wifi, to ethernet, but that's where I'm having my problem. As soon as I do that, the ethernet is getting the self assigned 169.154.105.163, and no matter what I do, I can't get the wifi internet connection to feed over to the ethernet port on the same system as the wifi adapter. Again, as I said initially, yes. I most definitely have absolutely tried going in and manually putting all the information into the IPV4 section. That certainly makes it quit saying that it has a self assigned IP. I mean, at that point, it looks good, but any time I try doing anything via the ethernet port which requires internet access, no go. No, my OSX firewall is not turned on, before you ask. Chris. - Original Message - From: Georgina Joyce To: AppleVis List Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 5:05 PM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! Hello Chris, I’d use instructions to set up an access point rather than a bridge. I’d get hold of a basic router and use it as an access point. But here’s a reversed Mac approach. But the principals apply. http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-make-your-mac-a-wifi-access-point.html On 26 Apr 2015, at 20:58, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: As I said in my subject, I don't want to turn anyone off from reading this e-mail. If you genuinely think you can help, just know, no suggestion is stupid. Especially considerring that I've tried everything under the son. At this point, I'm willing to try literally just about anything including throwing the mac across the room, then screaming! LOL! So, a little bit of very brief background. I have a Dell computer which apparently has just bitten the dust. It's about 10 years old. This really isn't rellavent more so than to say I just put it in storage until I figure out what to do with it. I also have a Yamaha hifi dolby/prologic surround sound 5.1 receiver. This receiver has an ethernet port on the back of it which allows you to connect it to an internet wired connection for things like Pandora, Spottify, etc. Get to the point, Chris, you say. I am, I am, I promise. Stick with me on this. Just hear me out for a sec as this is actually incredibly rellavant to my problem. So, here's the issue. The receiver doesn't have wifi capability. It's stricly only able to connect to a network via a hardwired ethernet connection. Well, this would be all fine and dandy except for one thing. I don't have room on my desk with my router to set the receiver up. Therefore, I had to set the receiver up across the room beside that old busted Dell machine. Due to home regulations set by my landlord, I cannot tack anything to the walls, nor use double sided tape, or anything of the sort, nor can I tack anything across my ceiling. Therefore, there went using a token ringed topology, let alone a PTP host/client configuration. Therefore, what I was doing was connecting via wifi to my home network's router across the room. This supplied internet connectivity to me on the Dell machine. Then what I did was, I ran an ethernet cable from the on board ethernet port on the back of the Dell tower to the ethernet port on my Yamaha receiver. Then, finally, in Windows XP, I was able to go under Control Panel, Networks, select both my wifi connection as well as my ethernet connection, hit the application's key, or rather, right click, same thing, and then select bridge connection from the context menu. Once done, it made my wifi connection carry down to my ethernet port. So, in other words, as long as I have an internet connection on my wifi end, then whatever got plugged into the ethernet port hardwired used that exact same connection. So, now that the Dell system has gone to its grave, and is there rotting, LOL! just kidding, seriously though, I'm trying to achieve this same exact thing with Yosemite 10.10.3. No matter what the heck I do though, try as I may, I just can! not! seem to get this to work. So far, I went into System Preferences, Sharing. Under here, I first selected the internet sharing service in the table. Then, making sure the box in the first column of that table row was unchecked, I moved down and set the share from popup button to wifi. Then, in the share to table, I made sure that the only thing checked was ethernet. Then, I went back
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Then just go away please. Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone Op 26 apr. 2015 om 23:32 heeft Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: Guys, if you're not gonna help, just say so, but don't be an ass wipe about it. Why is it any time I have a basic problem, you all are more! than willing to help, but if I have something like this that is more advanced, you all make smart butt remarks! Frankly, I'm growing real sick of it! Chris. - Original Message - From: george b To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 5:03 PM Subject: RE: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! Well then get a new office From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] OnBehalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 13:58 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! It's not quite that easy. If you saw how my office was configured, there is no room to set up another table. Don't you think if it was that easy, I would have already thought of that by now? I'm not that far blown, with all due respect. This desk I am using extends all the way from one wall all the way to the other side of the room nearly. So I can't put a table on the right side, as the wall is right there. I can't scoot the desk to my left to make room, as then, it's coverring the door entry to the room. I don't understand why every time I bring up a network problem, people always fail to realize that perhaps my setup won't allow this to happen with getting new furnature. Chris. - Original Message - From: Greg Aikens To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 4:15 PM Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! Get a small table to set next to your desk for the receiver. Seriously, $5 at Salvation Army or something. On Apr 26, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: As I said in my subject, I don't want to turn anyone off from reading this e-mail. If you genuinely think you can help, just know, no suggestion is stupid. Especially considerring that I've tried everything under the son. At this point, I'm willing to try literally just about anything including throwing the mac across the room, then screaming! LOL! So, a little bit of very brief background. I have a Dell computer which apparently has just bitten the dust. It's about 10 years old. This really isn't rellavent more so than to say I just put it in storage until I figure out what to do with it. I also have a Yamaha hifi dolby/prologic surround sound 5.1 receiver. This receiver has an ethernet port on the back of it which allows you to connect it to an internet wired connection for things like Pandora, Spottify, etc. Get to the point, Chris, you say. I am, I am, I promise. Stick with me on this. Just hear me out for a sec as this is actually incredibly rellavant to my problem. So, here's the issue. The receiver doesn't have wifi capability. It's stricly only able to connect to a network via a hardwired ethernet connection. Well, this would be all fine and dandy except for one thing. I don't have room on my desk with my router to set the receiver up. Therefore, I had to set the receiver up across the room beside that old busted Dell machine. Due to home regulations set by my landlord, I cannot tack anything to the walls, nor use double sided tape, or anything of the sort, nor can I tack anything across my ceiling. Therefore, there went using a token ringed topology, let alone a PTP host/client configuration. Therefore, what I was doing was connecting via wifi to my home network's router across the room. This supplied internet connectivity to me on the Dell machine. Then what I did was, I ran an ethernet cable from the on board ethernet port on the back of the Dell tower to the ethernet port on my Yamaha receiver. Then, finally, in Windows XP, I was able to go under Control Panel, Networks, select both my wifi connection as well as my ethernet connection, hit the application's key, or rather, right click, same thing, and then select bridge connection from the context menu. Once done, it made my wifi connection carry down to my ethernet port. So, in other words, as long as I have an internet connection on my wifi end, then whatever got plugged into the ethernet port hardwired used that exact same connection. So, now that the Dell system has gone to its grave, and is there rotting, LOL! just kidding, seriously though, I'm trying to achieve this same exact thing with Yosemite 10.10.3. No matter what the heck I do though, try as I may, I just can! not! seem to get this to work. So far, I went into System Preferences, Sharing
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I'm sorry. I'm totally totally totally confused what good that would do. What does that have to do with network bridging? Yes, I turned off the receiver. I'm a audio production engineer, so yes, believe me, I know about turning off and on the unit. That still doesn't answer my question though of what that has to do with bridging my mac's wifi connection and bringing it's internet connectivity over to the ethernet port. That's literally all that I'm wanting and needing. If I can get my wifi connection on this macbook to also be sent to my ethernet port on the exact same macbook, then I'm in business. But alas, nothing that I have tried is working. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user!
In the interest of helping, here's what people are getting at. Hi. I'm trying to make my mac bridge from wifi to Ethernet, so I can connect an Ethernet device to it and give that device internet access. I go into blah on the mac and enter ... I've also tried the command line and ... Can anybody help? Yes, the device might be relevant, but guess what? Your housing situation and so on and so on and so on isn't, because you want to bridge your wifi to your Ethernet port so something connected to that port can access the internet. That's it. That's your question. It's specific. It's short. You simply don't need the twelve side digressions and the and trust me when I tell you that I've sprinkled it with potato chips and waved a dead chicken over it thirty times while praying to great Cthulhu as prescribed in the seventeenth chapter of the Glockenspiel Network Administrator's Guide, but the third edition which is correct not the newer fourth edition which quite frankly in my opinion is not worth the paper on which it was printed, and there is no way I can use a cable because did I mention that my landlord has rules and these rules are, and also if I had a different computer in a parallel universe this would be easy but since we're in this particular state of quantum collapse and not the one in which my former computer is still functional or the one where I have a totally different but also functional computer that could accomplish this task for me, or ... In short, nobody cares why you want to bridge, or hwy it's an absolute necessity that you do so and do no other thing. You have to bridge, it ain't working. Done. On 4/26/2015 17:44, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Excuse me. I have posted to forums, and yes my housing arrangement is! rellavant, because if it was not rellavent, I would a just plugged it directly to my router, and bam! Problem solved. I can't with how things are arranged, so yes, it most certainly is! rellavent. Further, this is rellavent for the list, as isn't this list about the mac? Am I not trying to achieve this with a mac computer? There! OK then! Secondly, no one has had any idea in any of the forums I've posted to. I'd ask if you want me to put links to the forum discussions I created on to a virtual ciber fried poopoo platter for you to see, but what good would it do? Finally, you saying that I am being over hyper sensitive? Well, pardon me for asking a question. What the heck do you all want me to do? When I'm very brief with no, in your word, narrative, you all tell me I'm not specific enough. Then, when I try to elaborate, and be specific, you all cut off my balls for being too lengthy and for being a major attitude causer. So, make up your minds, with all due respect. Do you want me to give precise and con! cised info, or do you want the little snippits which don't seem to help you all. I obviously cannot win, so I may as well quit trying! Chris. - Original Message - *From:* gs mailto:geoffsli...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 6:18 PM *Subject:* Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! This list may not be the best forum to get a definitive response with regard to a specific network question like this. Instead of the condescending attitude, just go to the proper forum and narrow your question sufficiently. Work on the narrative skills and get down the the issue. You are obviously doing something wrong and not considering something with regard to the configuration. I've seen similar dilemmas but it's been a while and network bridging can be tricky, especially with something like an A/v receiver where one may not have ultimate control over how it decides to connect. I have more experience with these situations with Windows than with the Mac. And , of course, it may be that there is no solution. I admit I've read this with quite a lack of diligence and really have not focused on the specific issue because it seems quite like a comedy the way it's presented. I'm sure there are list subscribers who have the knowledge to solve the issue if it indeed can be solved. What I'm getting to is your housing/office situation is quite irrelevant. It takes us rewriting the issue in order to narrow it to the point that we can even start to consider the real problem. Many may not have the patience and can possibly not duplicate your scenario. Maybe seeking a more specialized forum will help. Not that it hurts posting here but without all the condescension. Not trying to be all that harsh here but you seem to be hypersensitive to the reactions you're getting. There's a reason why. On Apr 26, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan
RE: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user!
Ok, so he can't have the receiver next to the computer at his desk. So the receiver is on another side of the room. Why can't he just run a cable along the room's edges along the floor to the receiver from his internet router? You can get a 25ft cable for like 20 bucks. Best, -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Schucker Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 7:07 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! In the interest of helping, here's what people are getting at. Hi. I'm trying to make my mac bridge from wifi to Ethernet, so I can connect an Ethernet device to it and give that device internet access. I go into blah on the mac and enter ... I've also tried the command line and ... Can anybody help? Yes, the device might be relevant, but guess what? Your housing situation and so on and so on and so on isn't, because you want to bridge your wifi to your Ethernet port so something connected to that port can access the internet. That's it. That's your question. It's specific. It's short. You simply don't need the twelve side digressions and the and trust me when I tell you that I've sprinkled it with potato chips and waved a dead chicken over it thirty times while praying to great Cthulhu as prescribed in the seventeenth chapter of the Glockenspiel Network Administrator's Guide, but the third edition which is correct not the newer fourth edition which quite frankly in my opinion is not worth the paper on which it was printed, and there is no way I can use a cable because did I mention that my landlord has rules and these rules are, and also if I had a different computer in a parallel universe this would be easy but since we're in this particular state of quantum collapse and not the one in which my former computer is still functional or the one where I have a totally different but also functional computer that could accomplish this task for me, or ... In short, nobody cares why you want to bridge, or hwy it's an absolute necessity that you do so and do no other thing. You have to bridge, it ain't working. Done. On 4/26/2015 17:44, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Excuse me. I have posted to forums, and yes my housing arrangement is! rellavant, because if it was not rellavent, I would a just plugged it directly to my router, and bam! Problem solved. I can't with how things are arranged, so yes, it most certainly is! rellavent. Further, this is rellavent for the list, as isn't this list about the mac? Am I not trying to achieve this with a mac computer? There! OK then! Secondly, no one has had any idea in any of the forums I've posted to. I'd ask if you want me to put links to the forum discussions I created on to a virtual ciber fried poopoo platter for you to see, but what good would it do? Finally, you saying that I am being over hyper sensitive? Well, pardon me for asking a question. What the heck do you all want me to do? When I'm very brief with no, in your word, narrative, you all tell me I'm not specific enough. Then, when I try to elaborate, and be specific, you all cut off my balls for being too lengthy and for being a major attitude causer. So, make up your minds, with all due respect. Do you want me to give precise and con! cised info, or do you want the little snippits which don't seem to help you all. I obviously cannot win, so I may as well quit trying! Chris. - Original Message - *From:* gs mailto:geoffsli...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 6:18 PM *Subject:* Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user! This list may not be the best forum to get a definitive response with regard to a specific network question like this. Instead of the condescending attitude, just go to the proper forum and narrow your question sufficiently. Work on the narrative skills and get down the the issue. You are obviously doing something wrong and not considering something with regard to the configuration. I've seen similar dilemmas but it's been a while and network bridging can be tricky, especially with something like an A/v receiver where one may not have ultimate control over how it decides to connect. I have more experience with these situations with Windows than with the Mac. And , of course, it may be that there is no solution. I admit I've read this with quite a lack of diligence and really have not focused on the specific issue because it seems quite like a comedy the way it's presented. I'm sure there are list subscribers who have the knowledge to solve the issue if it indeed can be solved. What I'm getting to is your housing/office
