subject:"Re\: yosemite and spotlight search"

Re: yosemite and spotlight search

2014-10-21 Thread Donna Goodin

I just love this list!  I learn so many things here, even after five years on a 
Mac.  I never knew you could search that way.  Thanks, John!
Cheers,
Donna
> On Oct 21, 2014, at 1:56 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pam,
>   The Take Control series of books are really good reads.  They cover a wide 
> range of topics and you can't go wrong with those books.
> 
>   The results for spotlight now appear to show in a table.  You can use table 
> navigation to read them.  However, what I tend to do is use more specific 
> commands for searching for specific items.  For example, I just did a search 
> for documents that have the word, dog, in them.
> 
> dog kind: documents
> 
> If I VO-right arrow, I am presented with a table.  The table has the results 
> of all of my documents that have the word, dog, in them.
> 
> You can use things like
> the Beetles kind: mp3
> 
> the Beetles kind: audio
> 
> The word, kind, has the colon after it and then a space with documents, 
> audio, mp3, pdf, etc.  This designates the type of item you are searching for.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
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> 
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2014, at 2:57 AM, Pamela Francis  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi John,
>> I've heard a lot of good things about the take control series. If you 
>> cancer, please explain why the arrow key functionality within spotlight was 
>> taken away. As far as search criteria, if I enter a file name, or name of an 
>> artist within spotlight, I get everything but either of what I'm looking 
>> for. I don't understand what you mean by simple searches. I thought entering 
>> the proper file name or song name constituted a simple search. What am I 
>> missing? Please explain.
>> Thanks much. 
>> 
>> Pam Francis
>> 
>> On Oct 20, 2014, at 6:24 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, this was another feature that was focused on during the beta 
>> cycle.  Realistically, Spotlight is designed to give more functionality to 
>> simple searches.  It is not a matter of using the arrow keys any longer.  
>> Information is presented in table format based on the results.  Remember 
>> that you can use ways to phrase your search criterion to make Spotlight more 
>> effective.  If you depend on Spotlight, I highly recommend the Take Control 
>> of Spotlight for Finding Anything on Your Mac.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 20, 2014, at 6:42 PM, Pamela Francis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one having this issue. Jim, do you also 
>>> here something to the effect of either button or image? When I have 
>>> attempted to use spotlight in its current iteration, I get everything but 
>>> what I'm looking for. I have been raked over the coals on this list for 
>>> complaining to Apple for fear there are those who will lose their 
>>> accessibility. At this particular juncture in my opinion they lost an 
>>> integral part of what the OS was supposed to mean. I have enough vision to 
>>> be able to see the screen, yet it does no good to use my key commands to 
>>> get where I need to go. Apple is more concerned about aesthetics then they 
>>> are functionality with reference to how their current OS works. If we don't 
>>> ask questions, stand up for  what we need we will ultimately lose what we 
>>> have. Those who are  currently taking me to task now will be truly 
>>> whining.. The difference is, you know me, they don't.
>>> Pam Francis .
>>> 
>>> On Oct 20, 2014 10:05 AM, "'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> I have a quick question about the way that Spotlight is supposed to work in 
>>> Yosemite.
>>> 
>>> As far as I have been able to read, you should be able to get web results 
>>> from Bing, using Spotlight.
>>> 
>>> So, pressing Command Spacebar, which brings up the edit box, and then 
>>> typing in a search term, using the down arrow key produces absolutely no 
>>> results.
>>> 
>>> Results are indeed displayed for documents and email, but I am hoping that 
>>> there might be an easy way to get Bing results  displayed in Spotlight, if 
>>> this is supposed to be the way that it works.
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: yosemite and spotlight search

2014-10-21 Thread John Panarese

Hi Pam,
   The Take Control series of books are really good reads.  They cover a wide 
range of topics and you can't go wrong with those books.

   The results for spotlight now appear to show in a table.  You can use table 
navigation to read them.  However, what I tend to do is use more specific 
commands for searching for specific items.  For example, I just did a search 
for documents that have the word, dog, in them.

dog kind: documents

If I VO-right arrow, I am presented with a table.  The table has the results of 
all of my documents that have the word, dog, in them.

You can use things like
the Beetles kind: mp3

the Beetles kind: audio

The word, kind, has the colon after it and then a space with documents, audio, 
mp3, pdf, etc.  This designates the type of item you are searching for.


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

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> On Oct 21, 2014, at 2:57 AM, Pamela Francis  wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> I've heard a lot of good things about the take control series. If you cancer, 
> please explain why the arrow key functionality within spotlight was taken 
> away. As far as search criteria, if I enter a file name, or name of an artist 
> within spotlight, I get everything but either of what I'm looking for. I 
> don't understand what you mean by simple searches. I thought entering the 
> proper file name or song name constituted a simple search. What am I missing? 
> Please explain.
> Thanks much. 
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Oct 20, 2014, at 6:24 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>  Actually, this was another feature that was focused on during the beta 
> cycle.  Realistically, Spotlight is designed to give more functionality to 
> simple searches.  It is not a matter of using the arrow keys any longer.  
> Information is presented in table format based on the results.  Remember that 
> you can use ways to phrase your search criterion to make Spotlight more 
> effective.  If you depend on Spotlight, I highly recommend the Take Control 
> of Spotlight for Finding Anything on Your Mac.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
> 
> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 Mountain 
> Lion
> 
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> 
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2014, at 6:42 PM, Pamela Francis  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one having this issue. Jim, do you also 
>> here something to the effect of either button or image? When I have 
>> attempted to use spotlight in its current iteration, I get everything but 
>> what I'm looking for. I have been raked over the coals on this list for 
>> complaining to Apple for fear there are those who will lose their 
>> accessibility. At this particular juncture in my opinion they lost an 
>> integral part of what the OS was supposed to mean. I have enough vision to 
>> be able to see the screen, yet it does no good to use my key commands to get 
>> where I need to go. Apple is more concerned about aesthetics then they are 
>> functionality with reference to how their current OS works. If we don't ask 
>> questions, stand up for  what we need we will ultimately lose what we have. 
>> Those who are  currently taking me to task now will be truly whining.. The 
>> difference is, you know me, they don't.
>> Pam Francis .
>> 
>> On Oct 20, 2014 10:05 AM, "'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries" 
>>  wrote:
>> I have a quick question about the way that Spotlight is supposed to work in 
>> Yosemite.
>> 
>> As far as I have been able to read, you should be able to get web results 
>> from Bing, using Spotlight.
>> 
>> So, pressing Command Spacebar, which brings up the edit box, and then typing 
>> in a search term, using the down arrow key produces absolutely no results.
>> 
>> Results are indeed displayed for documents and email, but I am hoping that 
>> there might be an easy way to get Bing results  displayed in Spotlight, if 
>> this is supposed to be the way that it works.
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
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Re: yosemite and spotlight search

2014-10-21 Thread Tim Kilburn

Hi,

Spotlight appears to work as it should for me as well.  Initially, the default 
for the Search location appeared to be in the folder location that I was in, 
so, it wasn’t finding what I wanted it to find.  Once I changed it to “this 
Mac”, the search results populated fine.  I was able to narrow the results 
easily by changing the “Kind” to Application or Document producing a more 
manageable number of results.  I must not have used Spotlight in the same 
manner as those who are finding it frustrating as I’ve found it not 
particularly different than previous versions, so far.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:42 AM, Rich Ring  wrote:
> 
> I don’t believe that anyone should be slammed because something isn’t working 
> for them, however, I just did 3 spotlight searches, and each time what I 
> looked for was located. I don’t know why this is not working for other 
> people, I can only document my personal experiences. I am not noticing any 
> major VoiceOver lag either. Now, I will say that I preferred the previous 
> version of iTunes, however, it appears to be accessible, just different!
> 
> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
>  Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
> richr...@gmail.com 
>> On Oct 20, 2014, at 5:42 PM, Pamela Francis > > wrote:
>> 
>> I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one having this issue. Jim, do you also 
>> here something to the effect of either button or image? When I have 
>> attempted to use spotlight in its current iteration, I get everything but 
>> what I'm looking for. I have been raked over the coals on this list for 
>> complaining to Apple for fear there are those who will lose their 
>> accessibility. At this particular juncture in my opinion they lost an 
>> integral part of what the OS was supposed to mean. I have enough vision to 
>> be able to see the screen, yet it does no good to use my key commands to get 
>> where I need to go. Apple is more concerned about aesthetics then they are 
>> functionality with reference to how their current OS works. If we don't ask 
>> questions, stand up for  what we need we will ultimately lose what we have. 
>> Those who are  currently taking me to task now will be truly whining.. The 
>> difference is, you know me, they don't.
>> Pam Francis .
>> 
>> On Oct 20, 2014 10:05 AM, "'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries" 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> I have a quick question about the way that Spotlight is supposed to work in 
>> Yosemite.
>>  
>> As far as I have been able to read, you should be able to get web results 
>> from Bing, using Spotlight.
>>  
>> So, pressing Command Spacebar, which brings up the edit box, and then typing 
>> in a search term, using the down arrow key produces absolutely no results.
>>  
>> Results are indeed displayed for documents and email, but I am hoping that 
>> there might be an easy way to get Bing results  displayed in Spotlight, if 
>> this is supposed to be the way that it works.
>> Thanks.
>>  
>>  
>> 
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Re: yosemite and spotlight search

2014-10-21 Thread Rich Ring

I don’t believe that anyone should be slammed because something isn’t working 
for them, however, I just did 3 spotlight searches, and each time what I looked 
for was located. I don’t know why this is not working for other people, I can 
only document my personal experiences. I am not noticing any major VoiceOver 
lag either. Now, I will say that I preferred the previous version of iTunes, 
however, it appears to be accessible, just different!

You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
 Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
richr...@gmail.com

> On Oct 20, 2014, at 5:42 PM, Pamela Francis  wrote:
> 
> I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one having this issue. Jim, do you also 
> here something to the effect of either button or image? When I have attempted 
> to use spotlight in its current iteration, I get everything but what I'm 
> looking for. I have been raked over the coals on this list for complaining to 
> Apple for fear there are those who will lose their accessibility. At this 
> particular juncture in my opinion they lost an integral part of what the OS 
> was supposed to mean. I have enough vision to be able to see the screen, yet 
> it does no good to use my key commands to get where I need to go. Apple is 
> more concerned about aesthetics then they are functionality with reference to 
> how their current OS works. If we don't ask questions, stand up for  what we 
> need we will ultimately lose what we have. Those who are  currently taking me 
> to task now will be truly whining.. The difference is, you know me, they 
> don't.
> Pam Francis .
> 
> On Oct 20, 2014 10:05 AM, "'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries" 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> I have a quick question about the way that Spotlight is supposed to work in 
> Yosemite.
>  
> As far as I have been able to read, you should be able to get web results 
> from Bing, using Spotlight.
>  
> So, pressing Command Spacebar, which brings up the edit box, and then typing 
> in a search term, using the down arrow key produces absolutely no results.
>  
> Results are indeed displayed for documents and email, but I am hoping that 
> there might be an easy way to get Bing results  displayed in Spotlight, if 
> this is supposed to be the way that it works.
> Thanks.
>  
>  
> 
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Re: yosemite and spotlight search

2014-10-20 Thread Pamela Francis

Hi John,
I've heard a lot of good things about the take control series. If you cancer, 
please explain why the arrow key functionality within spotlight was taken away. 
As far as search criteria, if I enter a file name, or name of an artist within 
spotlight, I get everything but either of what I'm looking for. I don't 
understand what you mean by simple searches. I thought entering the proper file 
name or song name constituted a simple search. What am I missing? Please 
explain.
Thanks much. 

Pam Francis

On Oct 20, 2014, at 6:24 PM, John Panarese  wrote:

  Actually, this was another feature that was focused on during the beta cycle. 
 Realistically, Spotlight is designed to give more functionality to simple 
searches.  It is not a matter of using the arrow keys any longer.  Information 
is presented in table format based on the results.  Remember that you can use 
ways to phrase your search criterion to make Spotlight more effective.  If you 
depend on Spotlight, I highly recommend the Take Control of Spotlight for 
Finding Anything on Your Mac.


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
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> On Oct 20, 2014, at 6:42 PM, Pamela Francis  wrote:
> 
> I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one having this issue. Jim, do you also 
> here something to the effect of either button or image? When I have attempted 
> to use spotlight in its current iteration, I get everything but what I'm 
> looking for. I have been raked over the coals on this list for complaining to 
> Apple for fear there are those who will lose their accessibility. At this 
> particular juncture in my opinion they lost an integral part of what the OS 
> was supposed to mean. I have enough vision to be able to see the screen, yet 
> it does no good to use my key commands to get where I need to go. Apple is 
> more concerned about aesthetics then they are functionality with reference to 
> how their current OS works. If we don't ask questions, stand up for  what we 
> need we will ultimately lose what we have. Those who are  currently taking me 
> to task now will be truly whining.. The difference is, you know me, they 
> don't.
> Pam Francis .
> 
> On Oct 20, 2014 10:05 AM, "'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries" 
>  wrote:
> I have a quick question about the way that Spotlight is supposed to work in 
> Yosemite.
> 
> As far as I have been able to read, you should be able to get web results 
> from Bing, using Spotlight.
> 
> So, pressing Command Spacebar, which brings up the edit box, and then typing 
> in a search term, using the down arrow key produces absolutely no results.
> 
> Results are indeed displayed for documents and email, but I am hoping that 
> there might be an easy way to get Bing results  displayed in Spotlight, if 
> this is supposed to be the way that it works.
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: yosemite and spotlight search

2014-10-20 Thread Les Kriegler

Hi Mary,

I believe the Yosemite book was updated, but I've gotten so much mail that I 
cannot be positive.  I did purchase the Yosemite book in a bundle of books, and 
I received notification of at least two updates being available.  I think 
Yosemite was one of them.

Les
On Oct 20, 2014, at 8:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

> Has that "take control" book been updated for Yosemite?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2014, at 4:24 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>>  Actually, this was another feature that was focused on during the beta 
>> cycle.  Realistically, Spotlight is designed to give more functionality to 
>> simple searches.  It is not a matter of using the arrow keys any longer.  
>> Information is presented in table format based on the results.  Remember 
>> that you can use ways to phrase your search criterion to make Spotlight more 
>> effective.  If you depend on Spotlight, I highly recommend the Take Control 
>> of Spotlight for Finding Anything on Your Mac.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
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>> 
>>> On Oct 20, 2014, at 6:42 PM, Pamela Francis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one having this issue. Jim, do you also 
>>> here something to the effect of either button or image? When I have 
>>> attempted to use spotlight in its current iteration, I get everything but 
>>> what I'm looking for. I have been raked over the coals on this list for 
>>> complaining to Apple for fear there are those who will lose their 
>>> accessibility. At this particular juncture in my opinion they lost an 
>>> integral part of what the OS was supposed to mean. I have enough vision to 
>>> be able to see the screen, yet it does no good to use my key commands to 
>>> get where I need to go. Apple is more concerned about aesthetics then they 
>>> are functionality with reference to how their current OS works. If we don't 
>>> ask questions, stand up for  what we need we will ultimately lose what we 
>>> have. Those who are  currently taking me to task now will be truly 
>>> whining.. The difference is, you know me, they don't.
>>> Pam Francis .
>>> 
>>> On Oct 20, 2014 10:05 AM, "'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> I have a quick question about the way that Spotlight is supposed to work in 
>>> Yosemite.
>>> 
>>> As far as I have been able to read, you should be able to get web results 
>>> from Bing, using Spotlight.
>>> 
>>> So, pressing Command Spacebar, which brings up the edit box, and then 
>>> typing in a search term, using the down arrow key produces absolutely no 
>>> results.
>>> 
>>> Results are indeed displayed for documents and email, but I am hoping that 
>>> there might be an easy way to get Bing results  displayed in Spotlight, if 
>>> this is supposed to be the way that it works.
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: yosemite and spotlight search

2014-10-20 Thread 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries

I did a bit of research on this issue of Spotlight search is in Yosemite, and 
one suggestion was made to delete a preferences file, Also to somehow reindex 
the spotlight search capabilities. I would have to do more research to find out 
about the details of either of these possible solutions. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2014, at 5:42 PM, Pamela Francis  wrote:
> 
> I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one having this issue. Jim, do you also 
> here something to the effect of either button or image? When I have attempted 
> to use spotlight in its current iteration, I get everything but what I'm 
> looking for. I have been raked over the coals on this list for complaining to 
> Apple for fear there are those who will lose their accessibility. At this 
> particular juncture in my opinion they lost an integral part of what the OS 
> was supposed to mean. I have enough vision to be able to see the screen, yet 
> it does no good to use my key commands to get where I need to go. Apple is 
> more concerned about aesthetics then they are functionality with reference to 
> how their current OS works. If we don't ask questions, stand up for  what we 
> need we will ultimately lose what we have. Those who are  currently taking me 
> to task now will be truly whining.. The difference is, you know me, they 
> don't.
> Pam Francis .
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2014 10:05 AM, "'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries" 
>>  wrote:
>> I have a quick question about the way that Spotlight is supposed to work in 
>> Yosemite.
>>  
>> As far as I have been able to read, you should be able to get web results 
>> from Bing, using Spotlight.
>>  
>> So, pressing Command Spacebar, which brings up the edit box, and then typing 
>> in a search term, using the down arrow key produces absolutely no results.
>>  
>> Results are indeed displayed for documents and email, but I am hoping that 
>> there might be an easy way to get Bing results  displayed in Spotlight, if 
>> this is supposed to be the way that it works.
>> Thanks.
>>  
>>  
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Re: yosemite and spotlight search

2014-10-20 Thread Mary Otten

Has that "take control" book been updated for Yosemite?
Mary


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> On Oct 20, 2014, at 4:24 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>   Actually, this was another feature that was focused on during the beta 
> cycle.  Realistically, Spotlight is designed to give more functionality to 
> simple searches.  It is not a matter of using the arrow keys any longer.  
> Information is presented in table format based on the results.  Remember that 
> you can use ways to phrase your search criterion to make Spotlight more 
> effective.  If you depend on Spotlight, I highly recommend the Take Control 
> of Spotlight for Finding Anything on Your Mac.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
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> Director
> Mac for the Blind
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> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
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>> On Oct 20, 2014, at 6:42 PM, Pamela Francis  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one having this issue. Jim, do you also 
>> here something to the effect of either button or image? When I have 
>> attempted to use spotlight in its current iteration, I get everything but 
>> what I'm looking for. I have been raked over the coals on this list for 
>> complaining to Apple for fear there are those who will lose their 
>> accessibility. At this particular juncture in my opinion they lost an 
>> integral part of what the OS was supposed to mean. I have enough vision to 
>> be able to see the screen, yet it does no good to use my key commands to get 
>> where I need to go. Apple is more concerned about aesthetics then they are 
>> functionality with reference to how their current OS works. If we don't ask 
>> questions, stand up for  what we need we will ultimately lose what we have. 
>> Those who are  currently taking me to task now will be truly whining.. The 
>> difference is, you know me, they don't.
>> Pam Francis .
>> 
>> On Oct 20, 2014 10:05 AM, "'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries" 
>>  wrote:
>> I have a quick question about the way that Spotlight is supposed to work in 
>> Yosemite.
>> 
>> As far as I have been able to read, you should be able to get web results 
>> from Bing, using Spotlight.
>> 
>> So, pressing Command Spacebar, which brings up the edit box, and then typing 
>> in a search term, using the down arrow key produces absolutely no results.
>> 
>> Results are indeed displayed for documents and email, but I am hoping that 
>> there might be an easy way to get Bing results  displayed in Spotlight, if 
>> this is supposed to be the way that it works.
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: yosemite and spotlight search

2014-10-20 Thread John Panarese

   Actually, this was another feature that was focused on during the beta 
cycle.  Realistically, Spotlight is designed to give more functionality to 
simple searches.  It is not a matter of using the arrow keys any longer.  
Information is presented in table format based on the results.  Remember that 
you can use ways to phrase your search criterion to make Spotlight more 
effective.  If you depend on Spotlight, I highly recommend the Take Control of 
Spotlight for Finding Anything on Your Mac.
 

Take Care

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Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

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> On Oct 20, 2014, at 6:42 PM, Pamela Francis  wrote:
> 
> I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one having this issue. Jim, do you also 
> here something to the effect of either button or image? When I have attempted 
> to use spotlight in its current iteration, I get everything but what I'm 
> looking for. I have been raked over the coals on this list for complaining to 
> Apple for fear there are those who will lose their accessibility. At this 
> particular juncture in my opinion they lost an integral part of what the OS 
> was supposed to mean. I have enough vision to be able to see the screen, yet 
> it does no good to use my key commands to get where I need to go. Apple is 
> more concerned about aesthetics then they are functionality with reference to 
> how their current OS works. If we don't ask questions, stand up for  what we 
> need we will ultimately lose what we have. Those who are  currently taking me 
> to task now will be truly whining.. The difference is, you know me, they 
> don't.
> Pam Francis .
> 
> On Oct 20, 2014 10:05 AM, "'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries" 
>  wrote:
> I have a quick question about the way that Spotlight is supposed to work in 
> Yosemite.
>  
> As far as I have been able to read, you should be able to get web results 
> from Bing, using Spotlight.
>  
> So, pressing Command Spacebar, which brings up the edit box, and then typing 
> in a search term, using the down arrow key produces absolutely no results.
>  
> Results are indeed displayed for documents and email, but I am hoping that 
> there might be an easy way to get Bing results  displayed in Spotlight, if 
> this is supposed to be the way that it works.
> Thanks.
>  
>  
> 
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Re: yosemite and spotlight search

2014-10-20 Thread Pamela Francis

I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one having this issue. Jim, do you also
here something to the effect of either button or image? When I have
attempted to use spotlight in its current iteration, I get everything but
what I'm looking for. I have been raked over the coals on this list for
complaining to Apple for fear there are those who will lose their
accessibility. At this particular juncture in my opinion they lost an
integral part of what the OS was supposed to mean. I have enough vision to
be able to see the screen, yet it does no good to use my key commands to
get where I need to go. Apple is more concerned about aesthetics then they
are functionality with reference to how their current OS works. If we don't
ask questions, stand up for  what we need we will ultimately lose what we
have. Those who are  currently taking me to task now will be truly
whining.. The difference is, you know me, they don't.
Pam Francis .
On Oct 20, 2014 10:05 AM, "'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries" <
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>   I have a quick question about the way that Spotlight is supposed to
> work in Yosemite.
>
> As far as I have been able to read, you should be able to get web results
> from Bing, using Spotlight.
>
> So, pressing Command Spacebar, which brings up the edit box, and then
> typing in a search term, using the down arrow key produces absolutely no
> results.
>
> Results are indeed displayed for documents and email, but I am hoping that
> there might be an easy way to get Bing results  displayed in Spotlight, if
> this is supposed to be the way that it works.
> Thanks.
>
>
>
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