Re: Vm fusion question?

['Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

I often find that you can give Windows VMs focus if you just turn VO off 
temporarily and hit Tab enough times. Once your keyboard is grabbed, you can 
turn VO on again, if you like.

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Re: Vm fusion question?

[Kliph Senior]

Authorizations isn’t the issue.  This is a clean install of windows 10pro, and 
it won’t even let me type in the box to install jaws or even turn on narrator, 
let alone anything else.  Have tried multiple times, even with sited help.  
Guess I will wipe everything clean, and try again.


> On Aug 30, 2020, at 3:51 PM, maurice mines  wrote:
> 
> good morning, the best thing I can suggest is that you yes just like the last 
> poster said do some tabbing around depending on the age of your machine you 
> can also use the trackpad to try to maximize the window but maximizing 
> changes with whichever virtual application you are running if you're running 
> Windows it is probably best to use a single window or full-screen mode if you 
> have a window screen reader configured and ready to go.
> 
> 
> 
> Passions if you are running Windows, and you're using Jaws for Windows you 
> should be aware that authorizations can get a little funny in a VM my strong 
> and for the most emphatic suggestion here is what you get that program 
> running in your VM and authorized make sure you make a copy of the virtual 
> machine because you just used one of your license keys they get real snippy 
> if you use them too much and you cannot tell Vspara tech support that you're 
> running a virtual machine. They will not support it! And that they will hang 
> up on you almost immediately. Yes I been practically screamed out by their 
> staff with "we don't do Mac anything here take that stinky Mac and go call 
> Apple slam" that's pretty much the way Nicole goes that you mention the 
> virtual machine. So I'm just warning you on with everyone else is aware do 
> not mention the virtual machine to that company.
> 
> 
> 
> Now a word about Linux operating systems. The only operating system that I've 
> seen meaning that is a Linux distribution that seems to work well in terms of 
> making certain the window is maximized is now gnome which of course is 
> graphical the next. The version I am running happens to be Ubentu linux and 
> yes if you would stall orca into this distribution it sounds like a robot but 
> I guess what you get used to it you can actually use it. I have debated 
> whether Brltty can also run in a virtual machine. I'd be curious to know if 
> this is possible.
> 
> 
> 
> I hope some of the comments and suggestions might be of some help to someone.
> 
> 
> 
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> On 8/30/2020 6:20 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>> Hi!
>> Make sure you’re in the windows screen.
>> Otherwise i guess the mouse wont work.
>> Sometimes i have to do a lot of tabbing to get into the right position to 
>> get things going.
>> Not sure if i understand you right though.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 30 aug. 2020 kl. 14:45 skrev Kliph Senior  
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Ok, since most work from home jobs these days want you to have a PC, I had 
>>> to bight the bullet and get windows 10 with vm fusion 11.  I got it 
>>> installed, but for some reason the mouse won’t click in the search box or 
>>> any app for that matter.  Trying to get Jaws, but since the mouse won’t 
>>> work, I can’t get it.  Any suggestions?  thanks.
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Re: Vm fusion question?

[maurice mines]

good morning, the best thing I can suggest is that you yes just like the 
last poster said do some tabbing around depending on the age of your 
machine you can also use the trackpad to try to maximize the window but 
maximizing changes with whichever virtual application you are running if 
you're running Windows it is probably best to use a single window or 
full-screen mode if you have a window screen reader configured and ready 
to go.



Passions if you are running Windows, and you're using Jaws for Windows 
you should be aware that authorizations can get a little funny in a VM 
my strong and for the most emphatic suggestion here is what you get that 
program running in your VM and authorized make sure you make a copy of 
the virtual machine because you just used one of your license keys they 
get real snippy if you use them too much and you cannot tell Vspara tech 
support that you're running a virtual machine. They will not support it! 
And that they will hang up on you almost immediately. Yes I been 
practically screamed out by their staff with "we don't do Mac anything 
here take that stinky Mac and go call Apple slam" that's pretty much the 
way Nicole goes that you mention the virtual machine. So I'm just 
warning you on with everyone else is aware do not mention the virtual 
machine to that company.



Now a word about Linux operating systems. The only operating system that 
I've seen meaning that is a Linux distribution that seems to work well 
in terms of making certain the window is maximized is now gnome which of 
course is graphical the next. The version I am running happens to be 
Ubentu linux and yes if you would stall orca into this distribution it 
sounds like a robot but I guess what you get used to it you can actually 
use it. I have debated whether Brltty can also run in a virtual machine. 
I'd be curious to know if this is possible.



I hope some of the comments and suggestions might be of some help to 
someone.



Please note the above text has been dictated to the computer by means of 
dictation software. There may be some text that you may not be able to 
understand if it is critical to your understanding of what I've written 
above please write me and asked me what my original intent was, I will 
do everything I can to clear up any potential misunderstandings based on 
what I've written above. Thank you very much for reading this



Sincerely Maurice Mines.

On 8/30/2020 6:20 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Make sure you’re in the windows screen.
Otherwise i guess the mouse wont work.
Sometimes i have to do a lot of tabbing to get into the right position to get 
things going.
Not sure if i understand you right though.
/A


30 aug. 2020 kl. 14:45 skrev Kliph Senior :

Ok, since most work from home jobs these days want you to have a PC, I had to 
bight the bullet and get windows 10 with vm fusion 11.  I got it installed, but 
for some reason the mouse won’t click in the search box or any app for that 
matter.  Trying to get Jaws, but since the mouse won’t work, I can’t get it.  
Any suggestions?  thanks.

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Re: Vm fusion question?

[Jonathan Cohn]

That would be control-command F, but there is also a full screen mode item in 
the view menu. 
To enable control-left/control-right this is in the Mission Control section of 
the keyboard shortcuts of the keyboard system settings. 
When you first move into the VM, you have to press a key to enable the VM I 
usually press space or delete, but sometimes tab. Then when you need to move 
back to Macintosh applications you can press control-command followed by 
control-left.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Aug 30, 2020, at 1:52 PM, Kliph Senior  wrote:
> 
> How do you put it in full screen mode?
> 
>> On Aug 30, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> I generally set things up so that my VM's are in full screen mode, and also 
>> make sure to have enabled control-left / control-right to move from between 
>> virtual screens. I don't usually use a mouse, but when I need a family 
>> member to do something they can.
>> Let me know if you need more specifics.
>> Jonathan 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 at 08:45, Kliph Senior > > wrote:
>> Ok, since most work from home jobs these days want you to have a PC, I had 
>> to bight the bullet and get windows 10 with vm fusion 11.  I got it 
>> installed, but for some reason the mouse won’t click in the search box or 
>> any app for that matter.  Trying to get Jaws, but since the mouse won’t 
>> work, I can’t get it.  Any suggestions?  thanks.
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Re: Vm fusion question?

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How do you put it in full screen mode?

> On Aug 30, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
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> I generally set things up so that my VM's are in full screen mode, and also 
> make sure to have enabled control-left / control-right to move from between 
> virtual screens. I don't usually use a mouse, but when I need a family member 
> to do something they can.
> Let me know if you need more specifics.
> Jonathan 
> 
> 
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 at 08:45, Kliph Senior  > wrote:
> Ok, since most work from home jobs these days want you to have a PC, I had to 
> bight the bullet and get windows 10 with vm fusion 11.  I got it installed, 
> but for some reason the mouse won’t click in the search box or any app for 
> that matter.  Trying to get Jaws, but since the mouse won’t work, I can’t get 
> it.  Any suggestions?  thanks.
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Re: Vm fusion question?

[Jonathan Cohn]

I generally set things up so that my VM's are in full screen mode, and also 
make sure to have enabled control-left / control-right to move from between 
virtual screens. I don't usually use a mouse, but when I need a family member 
to do something they can.
Let me know if you need more specifics.
Jonathan 


On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 at 08:45, Kliph Senior mailto:kliph.sen...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Ok, since most work from home jobs these days want you to have a PC, I had to 
bight the bullet and get windows 10 with vm fusion 11.  I got it installed, but 
for some reason the mouse won’t click in the search box or any app for that 
matter.  Trying to get Jaws, but since the mouse won’t work, I can’t get it.  
Any suggestions?  thanks.

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Re: Vm fusion question?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Make sure you’re in the windows screen.
Otherwise i guess the mouse wont work.
Sometimes i have to do a lot of tabbing to get into the right position to get 
things going.
Not sure if i understand you right though.
/A

> 30 aug. 2020 kl. 14:45 skrev Kliph Senior :
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> Ok, since most work from home jobs these days want you to have a PC, I had to 
> bight the bullet and get windows 10 with vm fusion 11.  I got it installed, 
> but for some reason the mouse won’t click in the search box or any app for 
> that matter.  Trying to get Jaws, but since the mouse won’t work, I can’t get 
> it.  Any suggestions?  thanks.
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Vm fusion question?

[Kliph Senior]

Ok, since most work from home jobs these days want you to have a PC, I had to 
bight the bullet and get windows 10 with vm fusion 11.  I got it installed, but 
for some reason the mouse won’t click in the search box or any app for that 
matter.  Trying to get Jaws, but since the mouse won’t work, I can’t get it.  
Any suggestions?  thanks.

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Re: VM fusion question

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Your explanation is really very good.  It’s always been tricky for me, but I 
use the same method.

Andrew
> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:23 PM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
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> Hema,
> 
> It’s a bit tricky, but let me see if I can explain it right: When you’re in 
> Windows, press Control+Command. Then, you can use Command+Tab to move away 
> from VMware Fusion to any other app you might have running. All the VO 
> command will work once you have done the Control+command keystroke.
> 
> Now, to get back to Windows under VM is where it’s a little tricky. First, 
> Use either command+Tab or the dock to get back to VMware Fusion. Then, wait a 
> few seconds. Wait a few seconds, and hopefully VO will say something like 
> VMware Fusion, full screen, the name of your Windows virtual machine. If this 
> happens, press Control+G to tell VMware Fusion to get control of the 
> keyboard. If Control+G doesn’t work, I have to press Control+Command+F. I 
> will hear VO say “space with applications” followed by all the applications 
> you have currently open. You then may have to use Command+Tab to get back to 
> VMware Fusion once more. Then wait a few seconds until hopefully you hear VO 
> Say “space containing” the name of your windows machine, full screen. Once 
> that happens, you should be back in your Windows environment and the keyboard 
> commands will work for you.
> 
> Please, anyone else who uses VMware Fusion, feel free to chime in if you 
> think you can make this explanation clearer. I’ve been thinking how to write 
> this all afternoon, and I’m still not sure I’ve explained it clearly but 
> didn’t want any more time to go by before posting.
> 
> Pete De Vasto
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 9:40 AM, Hemachandran Karaha > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>>  
>> Kindly let me know how to use VM fusion effectively to alternate between 
>> Windows and Mac. I am making this request for the third time on this list. 
>> Hope I will get a response this time.
>>  
>> Warmly,
>> Hema.
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Re: VM fusion question

[Sandie Jazmin Kruse]

I do the same ,if it doesn’t work, write again so we can help you.

Sent from my iPad

> On 8 Feb 2019, at 04.13, Hemachandran Karaha  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Pete and all for chiming in.
>  
> Let me try and get back.
>  
> Warmly,
> Hema.
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Pete De Vasto
> Sent: 08 February 2019 04:53
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VM fusion question
>  
> Hema,
>  
> It’s a bit tricky, but let me see if I can explain it right: When you’re in 
> Windows, press Control+Command. Then, you can use Command+Tab to move away 
> from VMware Fusion to any other app you might have running. All the VO 
> command will work once you have done the Control+command keystroke.
>  
> Now, to get back to Windows under VM is where it’s a little tricky. First, 
> Use either command+Tab or the dock to get back to VMware Fusion. Then, wait a 
> few seconds. Wait a few seconds, and hopefully VO will say something like 
> VMware Fusion, full screen, the name of your Windows virtual machine. If this 
> happens, press Control+G to tell VMware Fusion to get control of the 
> keyboard. If Control+G doesn’t work, I have to press Control+Command+F. I 
> will hear VO say “space with applications” followed by all the applications 
> you have currently open. You then may have to use Command+Tab to get back to 
> VMware Fusion once more. Then wait a few seconds until hopefully you hear VO 
> Say “space containing” the name of your windows machine, full screen. Once 
> that happens, you should be back in your Windows environment and the keyboard 
> commands will work for you.
>  
> Please, anyone else who uses VMware Fusion, feel free to chime in if you 
> think you can make this explanation clearer. I’ve been thinking how to write 
> this all afternoon, and I’m still not sure I’ve explained it clearly but 
> didn’t want any more time to go by before posting.
>  
> Pete De Vasto
> 
> 
> On Feb 7, 2019, at 9:40 AM, Hemachandran Karaha  wrote:
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> Hi all,
>  
> Kindly let me know how to use VM fusion effectively to alternate between 
> Windows and Mac. I am making this request for the third time on this list. 
> Hope I will get a response this time.
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> Hema.
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RE: VM fusion question

[Hemachandran Karaha]

Thanks Pete and all for chiming in.

 

Let me try and get back.

 

Warmly,

Hema.

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Pete De Vasto
Sent: 08 February 2019 04:53
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VM fusion question

 

Hema,

 

It’s a bit tricky, but let me see if I can explain it right: When you’re in 
Windows, press Control+Command. Then, you can use Command+Tab to move away from 
VMware Fusion to any other app you might have running. All the VO command will 
work once you have done the Control+command keystroke.

 

Now, to get back to Windows under VM is where it’s a little tricky. First, Use 
either command+Tab or the dock to get back to VMware Fusion. Then, wait a few 
seconds. Wait a few seconds, and hopefully VO will say something like VMware 
Fusion, full screen, the name of your Windows virtual machine. If this happens, 
press Control+G to tell VMware Fusion to get control of the keyboard. If 
Control+G doesn’t work, I have to press Control+Command+F. I will hear VO say 
“space with applications” followed by all the applications you have currently 
open. You then may have to use Command+Tab to get back to VMware Fusion once 
more. Then wait a few seconds until hopefully you hear VO Say “space 
containing” the name of your windows machine, full screen. Once that happens, 
you should be back in your Windows environment and the keyboard commands will 
work for you.

 

Please, anyone else who uses VMware Fusion, feel free to chime in if you think 
you can make this explanation clearer. I’ve been thinking how to write this all 
afternoon, and I’m still not sure I’ve explained it clearly but didn’t want any 
more time to go by before posting.

 

Pete De Vasto





On Feb 7, 2019, at 9:40 AM, Hemachandran Karaha mailto:hemaka...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi all,

 

Kindly let me know how to use VM fusion effectively to alternate between 
Windows and Mac. I am making this request for the third time on this list. Hope 
I will get a response this time.

 

Warmly,

Hema.

 

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Re: VM fusion question

[Pete De Vasto]

Hema,

It’s a bit tricky, but let me see if I can explain it right: When you’re in 
Windows, press Control+Command. Then, you can use Command+Tab to move away from 
VMware Fusion to any other app you might have running. All the VO command will 
work once you have done the Control+command keystroke.

Now, to get back to Windows under VM is where it’s a little tricky. First, Use 
either command+Tab or the dock to get back to VMware Fusion. Then, wait a few 
seconds. Wait a few seconds, and hopefully VO will say something like VMware 
Fusion, full screen, the name of your Windows virtual machine. If this happens, 
press Control+G to tell VMware Fusion to get control of the keyboard. If 
Control+G doesn’t work, I have to press Control+Command+F. I will hear VO say 
“space with applications” followed by all the applications you have currently 
open. You then may have to use Command+Tab to get back to VMware Fusion once 
more. Then wait a few seconds until hopefully you hear VO Say “space 
containing” the name of your windows machine, full screen. Once that happens, 
you should be back in your Windows environment and the keyboard commands will 
work for you.

Please, anyone else who uses VMware Fusion, feel free to chime in if you think 
you can make this explanation clearer. I’ve been thinking how to write this all 
afternoon, and I’m still not sure I’ve explained it clearly but didn’t want any 
more time to go by before posting.

Pete De Vasto

> On Feb 7, 2019, at 9:40 AM, Hemachandran Karaha  wrote:
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> Hi all,
>  
> Kindly let me know how to use VM fusion effectively to alternate between 
> Windows and Mac. I am making this request for the third time on this list. 
> Hope I will get a response this time.
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> Warmly,
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Re: VM fusion question

[KliphnShari Miller]

When fusion is running, it depends on how you have things setup.  But I use 
command tab to go between both systems


> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Hemachandran Karaha  wrote:
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> Kindly let me know how to use VM fusion effectively to alternate between 
> Windows and Mac. I am making this request for the third time on this list. 
> Hope I will get a response this time.
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VM fusion question

[Hemachandran Karaha]

Hi all,

 

Kindly let me know how to use VM fusion effectively to alternate between 
Windows and Mac. I am making this request for the third time on this list. Hope 
I will get a response this time.

 

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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

[Scott Granados]

I noticed this as well.  It looks like an interesting product and the 
installation is very accessible but it all goes sideways once you run the 
application for the first time.  To bad bu I like fusion well enough so at 
least we have a very good option there and virtual box will be the next thing I 
experiment with.



> On Nov 21, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Frustratingly the Paralells desktop is still inaccessible.
> I have mailed them a few times about this but with no luck.
> /A
>> 18 nov. 2016 kl. 01:07 skrev Scott Granados :
>> 
>> Very good.  For a goof I just tried parallels with their trial option.  Talk 
>> about less than useless.  Completely and utterly inaccessible.  I was 
>> hopeful that over all this time things had improved but no such luck.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 5:07 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Scott,
>>> I do not remember what version of Fusion I started with. I do not think the 
>>> force grab function was brought over to version 8. It used to be on the 
>>> Virtual Machine menu. I looked at version 8 release notes and found nothing.
>>> 
>>> If we can find out what replaces the force grab, we might have solved it.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 11/17/2016 1:06 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 It does and I’ll do some googling on the command g feature, maybe I can 
 shed some light on this by playing with it more myself.
 
 Thanks as always ET.
 
 And good comments from Janina this might be worth some communication with 
 VMWare once I’m more confident it’s not the user behind my keyboard that’s 
 the problem.:)
 
> On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM and 
> my frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again for now.
> 
> Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. Its no 
> longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this a lot 
> more though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the 
> heyboard away from the Mac.
> 
> This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a wrong 
> key or too long throws things around and I have trouble getting focused 
> on the VM again.
> 
> So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM in 
> full screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows. Yet 
> I want access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and mini 
> bar. I think I have conflicts here though by inadvertently pressing Mac 
> keystrokes.
> 
> Did this make sense?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to 
>> do anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Scott,
>>> I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM 
>>> and wait long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab 
>>> the keyboard and then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 Hi, I wanted to confirm this.
 
 When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to 
 allow me to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound 
 when I press this combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full 
 screen mode I can’t enter the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by 
 tabbing past the snapshots button I will drop in to the vm.  Is there 
 a more simple mechanism, do I have the keystroke wrong?  Any pointers 
 would be most appreciated.
 
 Thank you
 
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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Frustratingly the Paralells desktop is still inaccessible.
I have mailed them a few times about this but with no luck.
/A
> 18 nov. 2016 kl. 01:07 skrev Scott Granados :
> 
> Very good.  For a goof I just tried parallels with their trial option.  Talk 
> about less than useless.  Completely and utterly inaccessible.  I was hopeful 
> that over all this time things had improved but no such luck.
> 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 5:07 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Scott,
>>  I do not remember what version of Fusion I started with. I do not think the 
>> force grab function was brought over to version 8. It used to be on the 
>> Virtual Machine menu. I looked at version 8 release notes and found nothing.
>> 
>>  If we can find out what replaces the force grab, we might have solved it.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 11/17/2016 1:06 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> It does and I’ll do some googling on the command g feature, maybe I can 
>>> shed some light on this by playing with it more myself.
>>> 
>>> Thanks as always ET.
>>> 
>>> And good comments from Janina this might be worth some communication with 
>>> VMWare once I’m more confident it’s not the user behind my keyboard that’s 
>>> the problem.:)
>>> 
 On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:
 
 Scott,
 Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM and 
 my frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again for now.
 
 Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. Its no 
 longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this a lot 
 more though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the heyboard 
 away from the Mac.
 
 This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a wrong 
 key or too long throws things around and I have trouble getting focused on 
 the VM again.
 
 So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM in 
 full screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows. Yet 
 I want access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and mini 
 bar. I think I have conflicts here though by inadvertently pressing Mac 
 keystrokes.
 
 Did this make sense?
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to do 
> anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Scott,
>> I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM and 
>> wait long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab the 
>> keyboard and then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> Hi, I wanted to confirm this.
>>> 
>>> When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to 
>>> allow me to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound 
>>> when I press this combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full 
>>> screen mode I can’t enter the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by 
>>> tabbing past the snapshots button I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a 
>>> more simple mechanism, do I have the keystroke wrong?  Any pointers 
>>> would be most appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thank you
>>> 
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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

[E.T.]

   I cannot look now but command-g is under one of those tabs.

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On 11/20/2016 3:51 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

So command G is not mentioned anywhere in the preferences list either under the 
application shortcuts or fusion shortcuts, I looked through all 4 sections.  
There is the command control to release but no command G in my fusion 8.5.


On Nov 19, 2016, at 2:55 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

Yes it is on the other vm work station products,

I think from memory it is for fustion also, but something makes me think 
command g.

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Subject: The control-G vm fusion question again

Hi, I wanted to confirm this.

When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow me 
to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I press this 
combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I can’t enter 
the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the snapshots button 
I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have the 
keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.

Thank you

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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

[Scott Granados]

So command G is not mentioned anywhere in the preferences list either under the 
application shortcuts or fusion shortcuts, I looked through all 4 sections.  
There is the command control to release but no command G in my fusion 8.5.

> On Nov 19, 2016, at 2:55 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes it is on the other vm work station products,
> 
> I think from memory it is for fustion also, but something makes me think 
> command g.
> 
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> To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: The control-G vm fusion question again
> 
> Hi, I wanted to confirm this.
> 
> When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow me 
> to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I press 
> this combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I can’t 
> enter the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the snapshots 
> button I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have 
> the keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.
> 
> Thank you
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RE: The control-G vm fusion question again

[Simon Fogarty]

Yes it is on the other vm work station products,

 I think from memory it is for fustion also, but something makes me think 
command g.

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Subject: The control-G vm fusion question again

Hi, I wanted to confirm this.

When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow me 
to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I press this 
combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I can’t enter 
the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the snapshots button 
I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have the 
keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.

Thank you

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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

[Scott Granados]

Interesting, thanks, I’m going to check out the mappings as well.

> On Nov 18, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
>   After reading Garry's post. I decided to run into the Fusion keyboard 
> preferences. I looked at the mappings under a couple of the tabs. Command-G 
> is a valid command to grab keyboard and mouse from the Mac. Command-control 
> will ungrab and return control to the Mac.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 11/18/2016 5:16 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> This is what I do as well. Also, I think it was Chris Moore who pointed me 
>> at the command control f to go full screen which is working.  Big thanks to 
>> everyone for the suggestions.
>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Garry Turkington  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I use Fusion with multiple VMs every day and I don't have an issue
>>> reliably getting input captured by the VM.
>>> 
>>> What I do is use VO to move right along the buttons on the VM
>>> interface. After the "full screen" button I get the name of the VM
>>> read out and when focus is on that any keystrokes go to the VM which
>>> then captures input. I use this method on both Windows and Linux VMs.
>>> 
>>> This is on the latest version of Fusion though still on El Kapitan
>>> because I don't have time to work out the whole Seil/Caribener thing
>>> in Sierra yet.
>>> 
>>> Garry
>>> 
>>> On 11/18/16, E.T.  wrote:
   I ran VM a bit ago and this time I did not execute command-g. I did
 not do a lot but found things worked just fine. Will need to do more
 experimenting.
 
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  Without H2O there is no life!
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 On 11/17/2016 4:07 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> Very good.  For a goof I just tried parallels with their trial option.
> Talk about less than useless.  Completely and utterly inaccessible.  I was
> hopeful that over all this time things had improved but no such luck.
> 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 5:07 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Scott,
>> I do not remember what version of Fusion I started with. I do not think
>> the force grab function was brought over to version 8. It used to be on
>> the Virtual Machine menu. I looked at version 8 release notes and found
>> nothing.
>> 
>> If we can find out what replaces the force grab, we might have solved
>> it.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 11/17/2016 1:06 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> It does and I’ll do some googling on the command g feature, maybe I can
>>> shed some light on this by playing with it more myself.
>>> 
>>> Thanks as always ET.
>>> 
>>> And good comments from Janina this might be worth some communication
>>> with VMWare once I’m more confident it’s not the user behind my keyboard
>>> that’s the problem.:)
>>> 
 On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:
 
 Scott,
 Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM
 and my frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again
 for now.
 
 Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. Its
 no longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this a
 lot more though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the
 heyboard away from the Mac.
 
 This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a
 wrong key or too long throws things around and I have trouble getting
 focused on the VM again.
 
 So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM in
 full screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows.
 Yet I want access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and
 mini bar. I think I have conflicts here though by inadvertently
 pressing Mac keystrokes.
 
 Did this make sense?
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to
> do anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Scott,
>> I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM
>> and wait long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab
>> the keyboard and then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Without H2O 

Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

[E.T.]

Scott,
   After reading Garry's post. I decided to run into the Fusion 
keyboard preferences. I looked at the mappings under a couple of the 
tabs. Command-G is a valid command to grab keyboard and mouse from the 
Mac. Command-control will ungrab and return control to the Mac.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/18/2016 5:16 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

This is what I do as well. Also, I think it was Chris Moore who pointed me at 
the command control f to go full screen which is working.  Big thanks to 
everyone for the suggestions.


On Nov 18, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Garry Turkington  wrote:

I use Fusion with multiple VMs every day and I don't have an issue
reliably getting input captured by the VM.

What I do is use VO to move right along the buttons on the VM
interface. After the "full screen" button I get the name of the VM
read out and when focus is on that any keystrokes go to the VM which
then captures input. I use this method on both Windows and Linux VMs.

This is on the latest version of Fusion though still on El Kapitan
because I don't have time to work out the whole Seil/Caribener thing
in Sierra yet.

Garry

On 11/18/16, E.T.  wrote:

   I ran VM a bit ago and this time I did not execute command-g. I did
not do a lot but found things worked just fine. Will need to do more
experimenting.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 4:07 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Very good.  For a goof I just tried parallels with their trial option.
Talk about less than useless.  Completely and utterly inaccessible.  I was
hopeful that over all this time things had improved but no such luck.



On Nov 17, 2016, at 5:07 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
 I do not remember what version of Fusion I started with. I do not think
the force grab function was brought over to version 8. It used to be on
the Virtual Machine menu. I looked at version 8 release notes and found
nothing.

 If we can find out what replaces the force grab, we might have solved
it.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 1:06 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

It does and I’ll do some googling on the command g feature, maybe I can
shed some light on this by playing with it more myself.

Thanks as always ET.

And good comments from Janina this might be worth some communication
with VMWare once I’m more confident it’s not the user behind my keyboard
that’s the problem.:)


On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM
and my frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again
for now.

Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. Its
no longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this a
lot more though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the
heyboard away from the Mac.

This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a
wrong key or too long throws things around and I have trouble getting
focused on the VM again.

So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM in
full screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows.
Yet I want access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and
mini bar. I think I have conflicts here though by inadvertently
pressing Mac keystrokes.

Did this make sense?

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to
do anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.


On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM
and wait long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab
the keyboard and then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Hi, I wanted to confirm this.

When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to
allow me to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk
sound when I press this combo and nothing happens.  In most cases,
in full screen mode I can’t enter the VM and in zoom reduced mode I
can but by tabbing past the snapshots button I will drop in to the
vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have the keystroke
wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.

Thank you



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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

[Scott Granados]

This is what I do as well. Also, I think it was Chris Moore who pointed me at 
the command control f to go full screen which is working.  Big thanks to 
everyone for the suggestions.

> On Nov 18, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Garry Turkington  wrote:
> 
> I use Fusion with multiple VMs every day and I don't have an issue
> reliably getting input captured by the VM.
> 
> What I do is use VO to move right along the buttons on the VM
> interface. After the "full screen" button I get the name of the VM
> read out and when focus is on that any keystrokes go to the VM which
> then captures input. I use this method on both Windows and Linux VMs.
> 
> This is on the latest version of Fusion though still on El Kapitan
> because I don't have time to work out the whole Seil/Caribener thing
> in Sierra yet.
> 
> Garry
> 
> On 11/18/16, E.T.  wrote:
>>I ran VM a bit ago and this time I did not execute command-g. I did
>> not do a lot but found things worked just fine. Will need to do more
>> experimenting.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>   Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 11/17/2016 4:07 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> Very good.  For a goof I just tried parallels with their trial option.
>>> Talk about less than useless.  Completely and utterly inaccessible.  I was
>>> hopeful that over all this time things had improved but no such luck.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 17, 2016, at 5:07 PM, E.T.  wrote:
 
 Scott,
  I do not remember what version of Fusion I started with. I do not think
 the force grab function was brought over to version 8. It used to be on
 the Virtual Machine menu. I looked at version 8 release notes and found
 nothing.
 
  If we can find out what replaces the force grab, we might have solved
 it.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 11/17/2016 1:06 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> It does and I’ll do some googling on the command g feature, maybe I can
> shed some light on this by playing with it more myself.
> 
> Thanks as always ET.
> 
> And good comments from Janina this might be worth some communication
> with VMWare once I’m more confident it’s not the user behind my keyboard
> that’s the problem.:)
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Scott,
>> Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM
>> and my frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again
>> for now.
>> 
>> Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. Its
>> no longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this a
>> lot more though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the
>> heyboard away from the Mac.
>> 
>> This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a
>> wrong key or too long throws things around and I have trouble getting
>> focused on the VM again.
>> 
>> So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM in
>> full screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows.
>> Yet I want access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and
>> mini bar. I think I have conflicts here though by inadvertently
>> pressing Mac keystrokes.
>> 
>> Did this make sense?
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to
>>> do anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.
>>> 
 On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:
 
 Scott,
 I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM
 and wait long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab
 the keyboard and then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> Hi, I wanted to confirm this.
> 
> When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to
> allow me to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk
> sound when I press this combo and nothing happens.  In most cases,
> in full screen mode I can’t enter the VM and in zoom reduced mode I
> can but by tabbing past the snapshots button I will drop in to the
> vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have the keystroke
> wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.
> 
> Thank you
> 
 
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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

[Garry Turkington]

I use Fusion with multiple VMs every day and I don't have an issue
reliably getting input captured by the VM.

What I do is use VO to move right along the buttons on the VM
interface. After the "full screen" button I get the name of the VM
read out and when focus is on that any keystrokes go to the VM which
then captures input. I use this method on both Windows and Linux VMs.

This is on the latest version of Fusion though still on El Kapitan
because I don't have time to work out the whole Seil/Caribener thing
in Sierra yet.

Garry

On 11/18/16, E.T.  wrote:
> I ran VM a bit ago and this time I did not execute command-g. I did
> not do a lot but found things worked just fine. Will need to do more
> experimenting.
>
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>
> On 11/17/2016 4:07 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Very good.  For a goof I just tried parallels with their trial option.
>> Talk about less than useless.  Completely and utterly inaccessible.  I was
>> hopeful that over all this time things had improved but no such luck.
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 5:07 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>>
>>> Scott,
>>>   I do not remember what version of Fusion I started with. I do not think
>>> the force grab function was brought over to version 8. It used to be on
>>> the Virtual Machine menu. I looked at version 8 release notes and found
>>> nothing.
>>>
>>>   If we can find out what replaces the force grab, we might have solved
>>> it.
>>>
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>  Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>
>>> On 11/17/2016 1:06 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 It does and I’ll do some googling on the command g feature, maybe I can
 shed some light on this by playing with it more myself.

 Thanks as always ET.

 And good comments from Janina this might be worth some communication
 with VMWare once I’m more confident it’s not the user behind my keyboard
 that’s the problem.:)

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>
> Scott,
>  Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM
> and my frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again
> for now.
>
>  Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. Its
> no longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this a
> lot more though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the
> heyboard away from the Mac.
>
>  This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a
> wrong key or too long throws things around and I have trouble getting
> focused on the VM again.
>
>  So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM in
> full screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows.
> Yet I want access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and
> mini bar. I think I have conflicts here though by inadvertently
> pressing Mac keystrokes.
>
>  Did this make sense?
>
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>
> On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to
>> do anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.
>>
>>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>>
>>> Scott,
>>> I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM
>>> and wait long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab
>>> the keyboard and then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.
>>>
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>
>>> On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 Hi, I wanted to confirm this.

 When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to
 allow me to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk
 sound when I press this combo and nothing happens.  In most cases,
 in full screen mode I can’t enter the VM and in zoom reduced mode I
 can but by tabbing past the snapshots button I will drop in to the
 vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have the keystroke
 wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.

 Thank you

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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

[E.T.]

   I ran VM a bit ago and this time I did not execute command-g. I did 
not do a lot but found things worked just fine. Will need to do more 
experimenting.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
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On 11/17/2016 4:07 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Very good.  For a goof I just tried parallels with their trial option.  Talk 
about less than useless.  Completely and utterly inaccessible.  I was hopeful 
that over all this time things had improved but no such luck.



On Nov 17, 2016, at 5:07 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
  I do not remember what version of Fusion I started with. I do not think the 
force grab function was brought over to version 8. It used to be on the Virtual 
Machine menu. I looked at version 8 release notes and found nothing.

  If we can find out what replaces the force grab, we might have solved it.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 1:06 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

It does and I’ll do some googling on the command g feature, maybe I can shed 
some light on this by playing with it more myself.

Thanks as always ET.

And good comments from Janina this might be worth some communication with 
VMWare once I’m more confident it’s not the user behind my keyboard that’s the 
problem.:)


On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
 Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM and my 
frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again for now.

 Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. Its no 
longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this a lot more 
though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the heyboard away from 
the Mac.

 This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a wrong key or 
too long throws things around and I have trouble getting focused on the VM 
again.

 So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM in full 
screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows. Yet I want 
access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and mini bar. I think I 
have conflicts here though by inadvertently pressing Mac keystrokes.

 Did this make sense?

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to do 
anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.


On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM and wait 
long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab the keyboard and 
then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Hi, I wanted to confirm this.

When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow me 
to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I press this 
combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I can’t enter 
the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the snapshots button 
I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have the 
keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.

Thank you



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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

[Scott Granados]

Very good.  For a goof I just tried parallels with their trial option.  Talk 
about less than useless.  Completely and utterly inaccessible.  I was hopeful 
that over all this time things had improved but no such luck.
 

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 5:07 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
>   I do not remember what version of Fusion I started with. I do not think the 
> force grab function was brought over to version 8. It used to be on the 
> Virtual Machine menu. I looked at version 8 release notes and found nothing.
> 
>   If we can find out what replaces the force grab, we might have solved it.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 11/17/2016 1:06 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> It does and I’ll do some googling on the command g feature, maybe I can shed 
>> some light on this by playing with it more myself.
>> 
>> Thanks as always ET.
>> 
>> And good comments from Janina this might be worth some communication with 
>> VMWare once I’m more confident it’s not the user behind my keyboard that’s 
>> the problem.:)
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Scott,
>>>  Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM and 
>>> my frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again for now.
>>> 
>>>  Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. Its no 
>>> longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this a lot 
>>> more though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the heyboard 
>>> away from the Mac.
>>> 
>>>  This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a wrong 
>>> key or too long throws things around and I have trouble getting focused on 
>>> the VM again.
>>> 
>>>  So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM in 
>>> full screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows. Yet I 
>>> want access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and mini bar. I 
>>> think I have conflicts here though by inadvertently pressing Mac keystrokes.
>>> 
>>>  Did this make sense?
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to do 
 anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.
 
> On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM and 
> wait long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab the 
> keyboard and then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Hi, I wanted to confirm this.
>> 
>> When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to 
>> allow me to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound 
>> when I press this combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full 
>> screen mode I can’t enter the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by 
>> tabbing past the snapshots button I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a 
>> more simple mechanism, do I have the keystroke wrong?  Any pointers 
>> would be most appreciated.
>> 
>> Thank you
>> 
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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

[E.T.]

Scott,
   I do not remember what version of Fusion I started with. I do not 
think the force grab function was brought over to version 8. It used to 
be on the Virtual Machine menu. I looked at version 8 release notes and 
found nothing.


   If we can find out what replaces the force grab, we might have 
solved it.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 1:06 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

It does and I’ll do some googling on the command g feature, maybe I can shed 
some light on this by playing with it more myself.

Thanks as always ET.

And good comments from Janina this might be worth some communication with 
VMWare once I’m more confident it’s not the user behind my keyboard that’s the 
problem.:)


On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
  Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM and my 
frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again for now.

  Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. Its no 
longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this a lot more 
though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the heyboard away from 
the Mac.

  This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a wrong key 
or too long throws things around and I have trouble getting focused on the VM 
again.

  So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM in full 
screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows. Yet I want 
access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and mini bar. I think I 
have conflicts here though by inadvertently pressing Mac keystrokes.

  Did this make sense?

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to do 
anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.


On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
 I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM and wait 
long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab the keyboard and 
then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Hi, I wanted to confirm this.

When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow me 
to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I press this 
combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I can’t enter 
the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the snapshots button 
I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have the 
keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.

Thank you



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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

[E.T.]

Scott,
   Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM 
and my frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again 
for now.


   Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. 
Its no longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this 
a lot more though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the 
heyboard away from the Mac.


   This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a 
wrong key or too long throws things around and I have trouble getting 
focused on the VM again.


   So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM 
in full screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows. 
Yet I want access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and 
mini bar. I think I have conflicts here though by inadvertently pressing 
Mac keystrokes.


   Did this make sense?

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On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to do 
anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.


On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
  I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM and wait 
long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab the keyboard and 
then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Hi, I wanted to confirm this.

When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow me 
to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I press this 
combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I can’t enter 
the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the snapshots button 
I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have the 
keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.

Thank you



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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

[Scott Granados]

It does and I’ll do some googling on the command g feature, maybe I can shed 
some light on this by playing with it more myself.

Thanks as always ET.

And good comments from Janina this might be worth some communication with 
VMWare once I’m more confident it’s not the user behind my keyboard that’s the 
problem.:)

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
>   Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM and my 
> frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again for now.
> 
>   Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. Its no 
> longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this a lot more 
> though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the heyboard away 
> from the Mac.
> 
>   This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a wrong key 
> or too long throws things around and I have trouble getting focused on the VM 
> again.
> 
>   So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM in full 
> screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows. Yet I want 
> access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and mini bar. I think 
> I have conflicts here though by inadvertently pressing Mac keystrokes.
> 
>   Did this make sense?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to do 
>> anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Scott,
>>>  I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM and 
>>> wait long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab the 
>>> keyboard and then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 Hi, I wanted to confirm this.
 
 When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow 
 me to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I 
 press this combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode 
 I can’t enter the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past 
 the snapshots button I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple 
 mechanism, do I have the keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most 
 appreciated.
 
 Thank you
 
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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

[Scott Granados]

I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to do 
anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
>   I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM and 
> wait long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab the 
> keyboard and then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.
> 
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> On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Hi, I wanted to confirm this.
>> 
>> When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow 
>> me to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I press 
>> this combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I can’t 
>> enter the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the 
>> snapshots button I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple 
>> mechanism, do I have the keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most 
>> appreciated.
>> 
>> Thank you
>> 
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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

I have never found a reliable way to get into and outof the guest vm.
For me this is a significant frustration.
To
my mind this functionality is a feature we should demand of VMware. I'm
not sure where to file the RFE, but if someone knows or posts one,
please share so that others of us can add our support for the request.

Janina

Chris Moore writes:
> ScottI don’t know about control + g.  What sometimes helps is to switch to 
> full screen mode with cmd + control + f.  Then turn it off with the same 
> keystroke.  I also tend to disable voiceover once I am safely in the VM with 
> cmd + control followed by cmd + f5.
> 
> HTH
> Chris
> > On Nov 17, 2016, at 1:45 PM, Scott Granados  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Hi, I wanted to confirm this.
> > 
> > When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow 
> > me to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I 
> > press this combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I 
> > can’t enter the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the 
> > snapshots button I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple 
> > mechanism, do I have the keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most 
> > appreciated.
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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

[E.T.]

Scott,
   I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM 
and wait long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab 
the keyboard and then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.


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On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Hi, I wanted to confirm this.

When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow me 
to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I press this 
combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I can’t enter 
the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the snapshots button 
I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have the 
keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.

Thank you



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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

[Chris Moore]

ScottI don’t know about control + g.  What sometimes helps is to switch to full 
screen mode with cmd + control + f.  Then turn it off with the same keystroke.  
I also tend to disable voiceover once I am safely in the VM with cmd + control 
followed by cmd + f5.

HTH
Chris
> On Nov 17, 2016, at 1:45 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I wanted to confirm this.
> 
> When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow me 
> to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I press 
> this combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I can’t 
> enter the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the snapshots 
> button I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have 
> the keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.
> 
> Thank you
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The control-G vm fusion question again

[Scott Granados]

Hi, I wanted to confirm this.

When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow me 
to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I press this 
combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I can’t enter 
the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the snapshots button 
I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have the 
keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.

Thank you

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A VM Fusion question about disks

[Bill Holton]

Hi.

When I get an error stating my disk is nearly full, are they referring to
the disk the app is on, my OS drive, or the drive the VM file is on, my Data
drive?  Thanks.

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Re: A VM Fusion question about disks

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Probably your virtual drive. When you first set up the virtual machine 
you tell it how much of your Mac's disk space you will allow it to use. 
In any case, you can quickly verify this by doing Get Info (command-I) 
from the finder on your Mac's drive to find out how much is left. If you 
really are out of room on your virtual machine you'll need to do some 
cleanup. I suspect changing the drive size of the virtual machine is a 
non-trivial bit of work, as it is on any non-Mac machine.


CB

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Hi.

When I get an error stating my disk is nearly full, are they referring 
to the disk the app is on, my OS drive, or the drive the VM file is 
on, my Data drive? Thanks.


Bill

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RE: A VM Fusion question about disks

[Bill Holton]

Hi.

My VM is set  to expand automatically.  Both  of my drives, data and OS, are 
fairly crowded, so wondering which I should concentrate on pruning.

 

 

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Probably your virtual drive. When you first set up the virtual machine you tell 
it how much of your Mac's disk space you will allow it to use. In any case, you 
can quickly verify this by doing Get Info (command-I) from the finder on your 
Mac's drive to find out how much is left. If you really are out of room on your 
virtual machine you'll need to do some cleanup. I suspect changing the drive 
size of the virtual machine is a non-trivial bit of work, as it is on any 
non-Mac machine.

CB

On 12/12/14, 1:04 PM, Bill Holton wrote:

Hi.

When I get an error stating my disk is nearly full, are they referring to the 
disk the app is on, my OS drive, or the drive the VM file is on, my Data drive? 
 Thanks.

Bill

 

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Re: A VM Fusion question about disks

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Right, but there is a limit to the expansion. So if you set up a Windows 
VM with a 40GB automatically expanding drive Windows will say it's a 
40GB drive but on the Mac it might initially only use 10GB. As you add 
apps and such it will grow but only up to 40GB. I've never run into this 
but I assume Windows will start to complain when you get near the limit. 
So how much free space do you currently have on your mac HD?


CB

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Hi.

My VM is set to expand automatically.  Both  of my drives, data and 
OS, are fairly crowded, so wondering which I should concentrate on 
pruning.


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*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: A VM Fusion question about disks

Probably your virtual drive. When you first set up the virtual machine 
you tell it how much of your Mac's disk space you will allow it to 
use. In any case, you can quickly verify this by doing Get Info 
(command-I) from the finder on your Mac's drive to find out how much 
is left. If you really are out of room on your virtual machine you'll 
need to do some cleanup. I suspect changing the drive size of the 
virtual machine is a non-trivial bit of work, as it is on any non-Mac 
machine.


CB

On 12/12/14, 1:04 PM, Bill Holton wrote:

Hi.

When I get an error stating my disk is nearly full, are they
referring to the disk the app is on, my OS drive, or the drive the
VM file is on, my Data drive? Thanks.

Bill

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RE: A VM Fusion question about disks

[Bill Holton]

As I recall, if you have the VM sharing, it doesn’t set an upper limit.  

 

 

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Right, but there is a limit to the expansion. So if you set up a Windows VM 
with a 40GB automatically expanding drive Windows will say it's a 40GB drive 
but on the Mac it might initially only use 10GB. As you add apps and such it 
will grow but only up to 40GB. I've never run into this but I assume Windows 
will start to complain when you get near the limit. So how much free space do 
you currently have on your mac HD?

CB

On 12/12/14, 1:42 PM, Bill Holton wrote:

Hi.

My VM is set  to expand automatically.  Both  of my drives, data and OS, are 
fairly crowded, so wondering which I should concentrate on pruning.

 

 

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: A VM Fusion question about disks

 

Probably your virtual drive. When you first set up the virtual machine you tell 
it how much of your Mac's disk space you will allow it to use. In any case, you 
can quickly verify this by doing Get Info (command-I) from the finder on your 
Mac's drive to find out how much is left. If you really are out of room on your 
virtual machine you'll need to do some cleanup. I suspect changing the drive 
size of the virtual machine is a non-trivial bit of work, as it is on any 
non-Mac machine.

CB

On 12/12/14, 1:04 PM, Bill Holton wrote:

Hi.

When I get an error stating my disk is nearly full, are they referring to the 
disk the app is on, my OS drive, or the drive the VM file is on, my Data drive? 
 Thanks.

Bill

 

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Re: A VM Fusion question about disks

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Right. If you map a drive letter to a folder on the Mac side then it's 
just a folder that can store up to the available space on your physical 
hard drive. I don't usually do that as I'm usually running Windows in my 
VM and don't want it infecting my Mac with whatever it might have picked 
up from somewhere.


CB

On 12/12/14, 3:22 PM, Bill Holton wrote:


As I recall, if you have the VM sharing, it doesn’t set an upper limit.

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Right, but there is a limit to the expansion. So if you set up a 
Windows VM with a 40GB automatically expanding drive Windows will say 
it's a 40GB drive but on the Mac it might initially only use 10GB. As 
you add apps and such it will grow but only up to 40GB. I've never run 
into this but I assume Windows will start to complain when you get 
near the limit. So how much free space do you currently have on your 
mac HD?


CB

On 12/12/14, 1:42 PM, Bill Holton wrote:

Hi.

My VM is set to expand automatically.  Both  of my drives, data
and OS, are fairly crowded, so wondering which I should
concentrate on pruning.

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*Subject:* Re: A VM Fusion question about disks

Probably your virtual drive. When you first set up the virtual
machine you tell it how much of your Mac's disk space you will
allow it to use. In any case, you can quickly verify this by doing
Get Info (command-I) from the finder on your Mac's drive to find
out how much is left. If you really are out of room on your
virtual machine you'll need to do some cleanup. I suspect changing
the drive size of the virtual machine is a non-trivial bit of
work, as it is on any non-Mac machine.

CB

On 12/12/14, 1:04 PM, Bill Holton wrote:

Hi.

When I get an error stating my disk is nearly full, are they
referring to the disk the app is on, my OS drive, or the drive
the VM file is on, my Data drive?  Thanks.

Bill

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RE: VM Fusion question

[Bill Holton]

Hi.
Do you know which number podcast it is that helps with VM Fusion and
bootcamp?  I wasn't able to find it.  Thanks.


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris H
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Subject: Re: VM Fusion question

You can see more about this on my guide of installing and setting up 
bootcamp without sighted assistance from
www.applevis.com



Chris

On 13/06/2013 22:51, Bill Holton wrote:
 Hi.
 I am trying to use  my Boot Camp Windows installation to  create  VM
fusion virtual PC. Can someone help me get started?
 The only options I see are to migrate a different computer into VMware on
the same network and to install from a disc. If the migration assistant the
one I should use for Boot Camp?
 Thanks
 Bill


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Re: VM Fusion question

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I think you can find what you are looking for here: 
http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_UScmd=displayKCexternalId=1014515.

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On Jun 14, 2013, at 8:44 AM, Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi.
Do you know which number podcast it is that helps with VM Fusion and
bootcamp?  I wasn't able to find it.  Thanks.


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Subject: Re: VM Fusion question

You can see more about this on my guide of installing and setting up 
bootcamp without sighted assistance from
www.applevis.com



Chris

On 13/06/2013 22:51, Bill Holton wrote:
 Hi.
 I am trying to use  my Boot Camp Windows installation to  create  VM
fusion virtual PC. Can someone help me get started?
 The only options I see are to migrate a different computer into VMware on
the same network and to install from a disc. If the migration assistant the
one I should use for Boot Camp?
 Thanks
 Bill
 

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Re: VM Fusion question

[Bill Holton]

Thanks.  I am very close.  I got a bootcamp window to come up with the startup 
Window eyes message, but I can't get to it to enter my Windows logon.  All I 
get is the toolbar.  Is there a hotkey to maximize the window and give the 
keyboard control in the Windows area?  Thanks.

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 I think you can find what you are looking for here: 
 http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_UScmd=displayKCexternalId=1014515.
 
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 On Jun 14, 2013, at 8:44 AM, Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi.
 Do you know which number podcast it is that helps with VM Fusion and
 bootcamp?  I wasn't able to find it.  Thanks.
 
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris H
 Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 6:45 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: VM Fusion question
 
 You can see more about this on my guide of installing and setting up 
 bootcamp without sighted assistance from
 www.applevis.com
 
 
 
 Chris
 
 On 13/06/2013 22:51, Bill Holton wrote:
 Hi.
 I am trying to use  my Boot Camp Windows installation to  create  VM
 fusion virtual PC. Can someone help me get started?
 The only options I see are to migrate a different computer into VMware on
 the same network and to install from a disc. If the migration assistant the
 one I should use for Boot Camp?
 Thanks
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Re: VM Fusion question

[Barry Hadder]

It is supposed to grab keyboard automatically.  If you can see the toolbar, try 
hitting option-tab a few times until you hear wineyes.  That usually works for 
me.  If it doesn't grab, try moving away from the Fusion window with 
command-tab and back again.  Then retry the option-tab thing again.
You can also try maximizing the window.  I think it is control-command-enter.  
You can find it in one of the menus to be sure.

On Jun 14, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks.  I am very close.  I got a bootcamp window to come up with the startup 
Window eyes message, but I can't get to it to enter my Windows logon.  All I 
get is the toolbar.  Is there a hotkey to maximize the window and give the 
keyboard control in the Windows area?  Thanks.

On Jun 14, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think you can find what you are looking for here: 
 http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_UScmd=displayKCexternalId=1014515.
 
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 On Jun 14, 2013, at 8:44 AM, Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi.
 Do you know which number podcast it is that helps with VM Fusion and
 bootcamp?  I wasn't able to find it.  Thanks.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris H
 Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 6:45 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: VM Fusion question
 
 You can see more about this on my guide of installing and setting up 
 bootcamp without sighted assistance from
 www.applevis.com
 
 
 
 Chris
 
 On 13/06/2013 22:51, Bill Holton wrote:
 Hi.
 I am trying to use  my Boot Camp Windows installation to  create  VM
 fusion virtual PC. Can someone help me get started?
 The only options I see are to migrate a different computer into VMware on
 the same network and to install from a disc. If the migration assistant the
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 Thanks
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Re: VM Fusion question

[matthew Dyer]

Hi,

One thing you can do is place the machine you are running in full screan mode 
and yes my vmware takes over the keyboard when in fockus.

Matthew


On Jun 14, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:

 It is supposed to grab keyboard automatically.  If you can see the toolbar, 
 try hitting option-tab a few times until you hear wineyes.  That usually 
 works for me.  If it doesn't grab, try moving away from the Fusion window 
 with command-tab and back again.  Then retry the option-tab thing again.
 You can also try maximizing the window.  I think it is control-command-enter. 
  You can find it in one of the menus to be sure.
 
 On Jun 14, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks.  I am very close.  I got a bootcamp window to come up with the 
 startup Window eyes message, but I can't get to it to enter my Windows logon. 
  All I get is the toolbar.  Is there a hotkey to maximize the window and give 
 the keyboard control in the Windows area?  Thanks.
 
 On Jun 14, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I think you can find what you are looking for here: 
 http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_UScmd=displayKCexternalId=1014515.
 
 --
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 bhad...@gmail.com
 https://twitter.com/BarryHadder
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 Available in the Mac app store.
 
 
 
 
 On Jun 14, 2013, at 8:44 AM, Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi.
 Do you know which number podcast it is that helps with VM Fusion and
 bootcamp?  I wasn't able to find it.  Thanks.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris H
 Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 6:45 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: VM Fusion question
 
 You can see more about this on my guide of installing and setting up 
 bootcamp without sighted assistance from
 www.applevis.com
 
 
 
 Chris
 
 On 13/06/2013 22:51, Bill Holton wrote:
 Hi.
 I am trying to use  my Boot Camp Windows installation to  create  VM
 fusion virtual PC. Can someone help me get started?
 The only options I see are to migrate a different computer into VMware on
 the same network and to install from a disc. If the migration assistant the
 one I should use for Boot Camp?
 Thanks
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Re: VM Fusion question

[Phil Halton]

I have a bootcamp partition that is half my hard disk with Mac OSX taking 
the other half. I'd like to import the bootcamp into VMWare, but it's too 
big. I have a external firewire disk available. How can I go about doing the 
import, and then erasing the bootcamp partition once successfully imported? 
I'd like to have the VM on my hard disk, not on the external.


Also, do you run into windows and Office authorization problems when 
importing, or just when running the bootcamp from within VMWare? Is either 
method better/less problematic?


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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: VM Fusion question


Hi,

One thing you can do is place the machine you are running in full screan 
mode and yes my vmware takes over the keyboard when in fockus.


Matthew


On Jun 14, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:

It is supposed to grab keyboard automatically.  If you can see the 
toolbar, try hitting option-tab a few times until you hear wineyes.  That 
usually works for me.  If it doesn't grab, try moving away from the Fusion 
window with command-tab and back again.  Then retry the option-tab thing 
again.
You can also try maximizing the window.  I think it is 
control-command-enter.  You can find it in one of the menus to be sure.


On Jun 14, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks.  I am very close.  I got a bootcamp window to come up with the 
startup Window eyes message, but I can't get to it to enter my Windows 
logon.  All I get is the toolbar.  Is there a hotkey to maximize the 
window and give the keyboard control in the Windows area?  Thanks.


On Jun 14, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote:

I think you can find what you are looking for here: 
http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_UScmd=displayKCexternalId=1014515.


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On Jun 14, 2013, at 8:44 AM, Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi.
Do you know which number podcast it is that helps with VM Fusion and
bootcamp?  I wasn't able to find it.  Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris H
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 6:45 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VM Fusion question

You can see more about this on my guide of installing and setting up
bootcamp without sighted assistance from
www.applevis.com



Chris

On 13/06/2013 22:51, Bill Holton wrote:

Hi.
I am trying to use  my Boot Camp Windows installation to  create  VM

fusion virtual PC. Can someone help me get started?
The only options I see are to migrate a different computer into VMware 
on
the same network and to install from a disc. If the migration assistant 
the

one I should use for Boot Camp?

Thanks
Bill



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VM Fusion question

[Bill Holton]

Hi.
I am trying to use  my Boot Camp Windows installation to  create  VM fusion 
virtual PC. Can someone help me get started?
The only options I see are to migrate a different computer into VMware on the 
same network and to install from a disc. If the migration assistant the one I 
should use for Boot Camp?
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Re: VM Fusion question

[Chris H]

You can see more about this on my guide of installing and setting up 
bootcamp without sighted assistance from

www.applevis.com



Chris

On 13/06/2013 22:51, Bill Holton wrote:

Hi.
I am trying to use  my Boot Camp Windows installation to  create  VM fusion 
virtual PC. Can someone help me get started?
The only options I see are to migrate a different computer into VMware on the 
same network and to install from a disc. If the migration assistant the one I 
should use for Boot Camp?
Thanks
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RE: Vm fusion question regarding usb braille displays

[Paul Hunt]

Hello. I also run vmfusion with Voice Over turned off. However, before I
connect a usb device, I turn it on. When I plug the device in a dialog pops
up asking me what os to connect the device to Windows or Mac. I choose the
windows os for my usb headset or the windows os for my mac. I hope this
helps.



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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Thierry Renoux
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 5:21 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Vm fusion question regarding usb braille displays

I've done that. I don't have VoiceOver running at the same time as the
virtual machine so I avoid too many keyboard conflicts  and the VM runs
faster without VoiceOver in the background anyway. I'm in fulscreen mode.
When I  plug the display in, Windows (7) gives me the error connect sound.
Are there known issues regarding  windows running in a virtual environment
and USB devices? I gave up connecting my Mbox2 USB using the VM because it
was not recognized in the control panel although the drivers were installed
successfully.
Any idea?

On Jul 24, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote:

 You have to dedicate the braille display to the virtual machine. It
doesn't share with the voice over on the Mac. it is a little painful but it
will work.
 
 Kev
 On Jul 24, 2010, at 2:02 PM, Thierry Renoux wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I can't connect my Brailliant 80 usb to the VM using Windows 7. It shows
as connected  and yet nothing happens. Any idea?
 
 Thanks a bunch,
 
 Thierry
 
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RE: vm fusion question

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Joseph. When I also have Windows 7 running in VMFusion. When in
Windows, I turn Voice Over off then it's out of the way and doesn't
conflict. I'm in Microsoft Outlook now and the arrow keys work just fine. If
I need to control the VM then I turn VoiceOver on to get to the Virtual
Machine menu where I can shut down or restart the OS gracefully. I can also
map my cdRom to the VM among other things. 

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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of joseph
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 6:51 PM
To: MacVisionaries
Subject: vm fusion question

hi listers

i installed windows7 virtual machine with vm fusion but when i go in
windows, i have to keep holding the control key down while i'm using
the arrow keys.  is there a way to change this please to be able to
use the keyboard as normal?

thank you in advance

best

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Vm fusion question regarding usb braille displays

[Thierry Renoux]

Hello,

I can't connect my Brailliant 80 usb to the VM using Windows 7. It shows as 
connected  and yet nothing happens. Any idea?

Thanks a bunch,

Thierry

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Re: Vm fusion question regarding usb braille displays

[Kevin Mattingly]

You have to dedicate the braille display to the virtual machine. It doesn't 
share with the voice over on the Mac. it is a little painful but it will work.

Kev
On Jul 24, 2010, at 2:02 PM, Thierry Renoux wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I can't connect my Brailliant 80 usb to the VM using Windows 7. It shows as 
 connected  and yet nothing happens. Any idea?
 
 Thanks a bunch,
 
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Re: Vm fusion question regarding usb braille displays

[Thierry Renoux]

I've done that. I don't have VoiceOver running at the same time as the virtual 
machine so I avoid too many keyboard conflicts  and the VM runs faster without 
VoiceOver in the background anyway. I'm in fulscreen mode. When I  plug the 
display in, Windows (7) gives me the error connect sound. Are there known 
issues regarding  windows running in a virtual environment and USB devices? I 
gave up connecting my Mbox2 USB using the VM because it  was not recognized in 
the control panel although the drivers were installed successfully.
Any idea?

On Jul 24, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote:

 You have to dedicate the braille display to the virtual machine. It doesn't 
 share with the voice over on the Mac. it is a little painful but it will work.
 
 Kev
 On Jul 24, 2010, at 2:02 PM, Thierry Renoux wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I can't connect my Brailliant 80 usb to the VM using Windows 7. It shows as 
 connected  and yet nothing happens. Any idea?
 
 Thanks a bunch,
 
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Re: Vm fusion question regarding usb braille displays

[Kevin Mattingly]

I didn't have any issues with it. Did you make sure your drivers are up and 
running for windoes? I had my brailliant 80 working with Windows 7 and ubuntu 
linux.

Kev
On Jul 24, 2010, at 6:20 PM, Thierry Renoux wrote:

 I've done that. I don't have VoiceOver running at the same time as the 
 virtual machine so I avoid too many keyboard conflicts  and the VM runs 
 faster without VoiceOver in the background anyway. I'm in fulscreen mode. 
 When I  plug the display in, Windows (7) gives me the error connect sound. 
 Are there known issues regarding  windows running in a virtual environment 
 and USB devices? I gave up connecting my Mbox2 USB using the VM because it  
 was not recognized in the control panel although the drivers were installed 
 successfully.
 Any idea?
 
 On Jul 24, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote:
 
 You have to dedicate the braille display to the virtual machine. It doesn't 
 share with the voice over on the Mac. it is a little painful but it will 
 work.
 
 Kev
 On Jul 24, 2010, at 2:02 PM, Thierry Renoux wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I can't connect my Brailliant 80 usb to the VM using Windows 7. It shows as 
 connected  and yet nothing happens. Any idea?
 
 Thanks a bunch,
 
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vm fusion question

[joseph]

hi listers

i installed windows7 virtual machine with vm fusion but when i go in
windows, i have to keep holding the control key down while i'm using
the arrow keys.  is there a way to change this please to be able to
use the keyboard as normal?

thank you in advance

best

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Re: vm fusion question

[Chris Blouch]

To clarify, VMWare will boot up windows with the VMWare tools and then 
you choose install VMWare Tools from the Virtual Machine menu. After 
that it should get everything going. Unless you like narrator you might 
want to install Jaws/WindowEyes since the actual install is a windows app.

CB

Scott Howell wrote:
 You have to install the tools yourself; they are not automatically  
 installed.
 On Aug 23, 2009, at 4:30 AM, william lomas wrote:

   
 install the tools i think when in windows but not sure if the install
 for you automatically
 On 23 Aug 2009, at 09:26, Simon Cavendish wrote:

 
 Just a side question regarding vmware tools. I've downloaded vmware
 fusion from the internet. Are the mvware tools a part of this
 downlload by default, and consequently vmware will install them as
 needed during the Windows installation? Or do I need to get vmware
 tools as a separate download or disc? I am currently running Windows
 on a separate partition under bootcamp but I am planning on importing
 this partition into vmware and getting rid of the partition by  
 running
 Windows virtually. If anybody can think of any dangers of doing such
 an import, do let me know please.

 With best wishes, Simon
 On 23 Aug 2009, at 03:24, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

   
 Hi Anouk,

 In order to run Windows via Fusion, you need a Windows CD. This  
 can't
 be an upgrade CD or a recovery disk. You then install Windows using
 that CD within Fusion. Once Windows is installed, Fusion loads the
 drivers you need automatically through something called VMWare  
 tools.

 HTH,
 Anna


 
   
 


 
   

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Re: vm fusion question

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Hi Chris,

When I installed Windows via Fusion, the VMWare tools were installed  
automatically after Windows was installed and booted up.

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Re: vm fusion question

[Simon Cavendish]

Just a side question regarding vmware tools. I've downloaded vmware  
fusion from the internet. Are the mvware tools a part of this  
downlload by default, and consequently vmware will install them as  
needed during the Windows installation? Or do I need to get vmware  
tools as a separate download or disc? I am currently running Windows  
on a separate partition under bootcamp but I am planning on importing  
this partition into vmware and getting rid of the partition by running  
Windows virtually. If anybody can think of any dangers of doing such  
an import, do let me know please.

With best wishes, Simon
On 23 Aug 2009, at 03:24, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:


 Hi Anouk,

 In order to run Windows via Fusion, you need a Windows CD. This can't
 be an upgrade CD or a recovery disk. You then install Windows using
 that CD within Fusion. Once Windows is installed, Fusion loads the
 drivers you need automatically through something called VMWare tools.

 HTH,
 Anna


 


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Re: vm fusion question

[william lomas]

install the tools i think when in windows but not sure if the install  
for you automatically
On 23 Aug 2009, at 09:26, Simon Cavendish wrote:


 Just a side question regarding vmware tools. I've downloaded vmware
 fusion from the internet. Are the mvware tools a part of this
 downlload by default, and consequently vmware will install them as
 needed during the Windows installation? Or do I need to get vmware
 tools as a separate download or disc? I am currently running Windows
 on a separate partition under bootcamp but I am planning on importing
 this partition into vmware and getting rid of the partition by running
 Windows virtually. If anybody can think of any dangers of doing such
 an import, do let me know please.

 With best wishes, Simon
 On 23 Aug 2009, at 03:24, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:


 Hi Anouk,

 In order to run Windows via Fusion, you need a Windows CD. This can't
 be an upgrade CD or a recovery disk. You then install Windows using
 that CD within Fusion. Once Windows is installed, Fusion loads the
 drivers you need automatically through something called VMWare tools.

 HTH,
 Anna





 


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Re: vm fusion question

[Woody Anna Dresner]

HI Simon,

I know you can import a Bootcamp installation into fusion. I installed  
Windows from a CD and VMWare Tools was installed automatically after  
Windows was installed, so I think it would work the same way when  
importing the installation from Bootcamp.

Best,
Anna



On Aug 23, 2009, at 3:26 AM, Simon Cavendish wrote:


 Just a side question regarding vmware tools. I've downloaded vmware
 fusion from the internet. Are the mvware tools a part of this
 downlload by default, and consequently vmware will install them as
 needed during the Windows installation? Or do I need to get vmware
 tools as a separate download or disc? I am currently running Windows
 on a separate partition under bootcamp but I am planning on importing
 this partition into vmware and getting rid of the partition by running
 Windows virtually. If anybody can think of any dangers of doing such
 an import, do let me know please.

 With best wishes, Simon
 On 23 Aug 2009, at 03:24, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:


 Hi Anouk,

 In order to run Windows via Fusion, you need a Windows CD. This can't
 be an upgrade CD or a recovery disk. You then install Windows using
 that CD within Fusion. Once Windows is installed, Fusion loads the
 drivers you need automatically through something called VMWare tools.

 HTH,
 Anna





 


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vm fusion question

[a radix]

Hello, I have heard in a podcast that you can copy over a windows xp 
installation from an existing computer into a virtual machine on the macintosh 
with fusion. But, my windows xp installation on my pc also has audio and video 
drivers installed. Wont this be a problem because I suppose on the mac it would 
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Re: vm fusion question

[Scott Howell]

Hmmm, that is curious, I have not heard that Anouk and I'm not so sure  
that is a good idea in any event.  Best to start with a fresh install  
of windows.  If you install windows as a VM, you can certainly make a  
backup of that and just copy it over itself if something becomes hosed.

On Aug 22, 2009, at 6:40 AM, a radix wrote:

 Hello, I have heard in a podcast that you can copy over a windows xp  
 installation from an existing computer into a virtual machine on the  
 macintosh with fusion. But, my windows xp installation on my pc also  
 has audio and video drivers installed. Wont this be a problem  
 because I suppose on the mac it would need different drivers? Also  
 will it copy over other drivers I have installed on my pc like  
 scanner and printer drivers?
 Thanks,
 Greetings, Anouk,

 


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Re: vm fusion question

[a radix]

Hello, yes I guess that might be the best solution too. I just listened to a 
podcast about vmware fusion (this is the first time i would be using a virtual 
machine), i guess you dont need to download the rea ldrivers for the mac you 
are using (the windows side of it) just the vmware tools and then it will work.
Thanks,
Greetings, Anouk,
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  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 11:17 PM
  Subject: Re: vm fusion question


  Hmmm, that is curious, I have not heard that Anouk and I'm not so sure that 
is a good idea in any event.  Best to start with a fresh install of windows.  
If you install windows as a VM, you can certainly make a backup of that and 
just copy it over itself if something becomes hosed.


  On Aug 22, 2009, at 6:40 AM, a radix wrote:


Hello, I have heard in a podcast that you can copy over a windows xp 
installation from an existing computer into a virtual machine on the macintosh 
with fusion. But, my windows xp installation on my pc also has audio and video 
drivers installed. Wont this be a problem because I suppose on the mac it would 
need different drivers? Also will it copy over other drivers I have installed 
on my pc like scanner and printer drivers?
Thanks,
Greetings, Anouk, 







  

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Re: vm fusion question

[Scott Howell]

Correct, because I have found that trying to copy windows from one  
machine to another where the hardware is different, generally ends in  
disaster.  I've tried this and the success was questionable and you  
could easily run into issues with the registration keys and other ugly  
problems. Just install everything, update, get what you need setup,  
back it up, and then if something goes wrong, you can pull out your  
backup and be running in no time.
On Aug 22, 2009, at 5:46 PM, a radix wrote:

 Hello, yes I guess that might be the best solution too. I just  
 listened to a podcast about vmware fusion (this is the first time i  
 would be using a virtual machine), i guess you dont need to download  
 the rea ldrivers for the mac you are using (the windows side of it)  
 just the vmware tools and then it will work.
 Thanks,
 Greetings, Anouk,
 - Original Message -
 From: Scott Howell
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 11:17 PM
 Subject: Re: vm fusion question

 Hmmm, that is curious, I have not heard that Anouk and I'm not so  
 sure that is a good idea in any event.  Best to start with a fresh  
 install of windows.  If you install windows as a VM, you can  
 certainly make a backup of that and just copy it over itself if  
 something becomes hosed.

 On Aug 22, 2009, at 6:40 AM, a radix wrote:

 Hello, I have heard in a podcast that you can copy over a windows  
 xp installation from an existing computer into a virtual machine on  
 the macintosh with fusion. But, my windows xp installation on my pc  
 also has audio and video drivers installed. Wont this be a problem  
 because I suppose on the mac it would need different drivers? Also  
 will it copy over other drivers I have installed on my pc like  
 scanner and printer drivers?
 Thanks,
 Greetings, Anouk,






 


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Re: vm fusion question

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Anouk,

In order to run Windows via Fusion, you need a Windows CD. This can't  
be an upgrade CD or a recovery disk. You then install Windows using  
that CD within Fusion. Once Windows is installed, Fusion loads the  
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