Word processing on Mac OS X

2009-09-04 Thread James Nash

Hi folks,

What are folks on the list using for Word Processing please? Although I 
don't need it right at the moemnt, I would like the ability to use footnotes 
and endnotes as well as tables of contents. Latex is great for academic 
writing nbut sometimes when there's an error and the file will not compile 
it can be very frustrating.

I know that Nisus is in beta at the moment for use with SL.Hopefully, they 
have improved the accesibility and compatibility between Nisus and VO.

 I would be very greatful for any recommendations. I do not need an Office 
suite, but how accessible is the IWork suite. Unfortunately, I did not like 
OpenOffice and found it very clunky and not very intuitive.

Thanks for any help you can provide.

Take care

james 


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Re: Word processing on Mac OS X

2009-09-04 Thread william lomas

There is also a demo of pages as part of IWork

On 4 Sep 2009, at 13:46, Dane Trethowan wrote:


 I use a combination of Open office and Pages - the latter is very nice
 indeed I'm told under Snow Leopard though I haven't had the chance to
 try that for myself yet -.

 Another word processing package -available on its own - which is  
 super!
 to use is Nisus Writer Pro, very accessible and packed with all  
 sorts of
 Word Processing and desktop publishing features.

 If you want to go down the Free Road try Bean which does one hell  
 of a
 lot considering its free.



 James  Nash wrote:
 Hi folks,

 What are folks on the list using for Word Processing please?  
 Although I
 don't need it right at the moemnt, I would like the ability to use  
 footnotes
 and endnotes as well as tables of contents. Latex is great for  
 academic
 writing nbut sometimes when there's an error and the file will not  
 compile
 it can be very frustrating.

 I know that Nisus is in beta at the moment for use with  
 SL.Hopefully, they
 have improved the accesibility and compatibility between Nisus and  
 VO.

 I would be very greatful for any recommendations. I do not need an  
 Office
 suite, but how accessible is the IWork suite. Unfortunately, I did  
 not like
 OpenOffice and found it very clunky and not very intuitive.

 Thanks for any help you can provide.

 Take care

 james





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Re: Word processing on Mac OS X

2009-09-04 Thread James Nash

Hi Dane,

I've used Nisus Pro for a long time and I msut say that the developers are 
very open to accessibility issues. I wonder how well the new 1.3.1 of Pro 
will work under Snow Leopard when it comes out of beta.

Thanks for the suggestions
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From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X



 I use a combination of Open office and Pages - the latter is very nice
 indeed I'm told under Snow Leopard though I haven't had the chance to
 try that for myself yet -.

 Another word processing package -available on its own - which is super!
 to use is Nisus Writer Pro, very accessible and packed with all sorts of
 Word Processing and desktop publishing features.

 If you want to go down the Free Road try Bean which does one hell of a
 lot considering its free.



 James  Nash wrote:
 Hi folks,

 What are folks on the list using for Word Processing please? Although I
 don't need it right at the moemnt, I would like the ability to use 
 footnotes
 and endnotes as well as tables of contents. Latex is great for academic
 writing nbut sometimes when there's an error and the file will not 
 compile
 it can be very frustrating.

 I know that Nisus is in beta at the moment for use with SL.Hopefully, 
 they
 have improved the accesibility and compatibility between Nisus and VO.

  I would be very greatful for any recommendations. I do not need an 
 Office
 suite, but how accessible is the IWork suite. Unfortunately, I did not 
 like
 OpenOffice and found it very clunky and not very intuitive.

 Thanks for any help you can provide.

 Take care

 james


 


 -- 

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 From Melton Victoria Australia
 mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net
 Phone United Kingdom
 02032874641
 Phone Australia
 :0390058589
 Phone United States
 :8159261869
 Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954
 Mobile/SMS +61 438 571201
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Re: Word processing on Mac OS X

2009-09-04 Thread Dane Trethowan

Pages contains many advanced features that I'm only now discovering  
and I've been using the software for much of this year.


On 04/09/2009, at 10:57 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:


 Yep, it seems to be a nice little program, from what I can tell.
 - Original Message -
 From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:50 AM
 Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X



 Yes, Pages is the name of the Word Processing package in Iwork 9.


 On 04/09/2009, at 10:50 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:


 Hi,
 The iWork Suite seems to be pritty accessible from what I can tell.
 It has
 done what I needed so far, which is good especially when it comes to
 getting
 work for college classes accomplished and I don't feel like
 switching to my
 Windows machines to get the assignment or whatever done.
 HTH,
 Jeffrey
 - Original Message -
 From: James  Nash james.austin1...@googlemail.com
 To: Mac visionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:40 AM
 Subject: Word processing on Mac OS X



 Hi folks,

 What are folks on the list using for Word Processing please?
 Although I
 don't need it right at the moemnt, I would like the ability to use
 footnotes
 and endnotes as well as tables of contents. Latex is great for
 academic
 writing nbut sometimes when there's an error and the file will not
 compile
 it can be very frustrating.

 I know that Nisus is in beta at the moment for use with
 SL.Hopefully, they
 have improved the accesibility and compatibility between Nisus and
 VO.

 I would be very greatful for any recommendations. I do not need an
 Office
 suite, but how accessible is the IWork suite. Unfortunately, I did
 not
 like
 OpenOffice and found it very clunky and not very intuitive.

 Thanks for any help you can provide.

 Take care

 james











 


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Re: Word processing on Mac OS X

2009-09-04 Thread Jeffrey Shockley

Cool. What kinds of features does it offer? I just started using it so I'm 
not that familiar with it.
Thanks,
Jeffrey
- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X



 Pages contains many advanced features that I'm only now discovering
 and I've been using the software for much of this year.


 On 04/09/2009, at 10:57 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:


 Yep, it seems to be a nice little program, from what I can tell.
 - Original Message -
 From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:50 AM
 Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X



 Yes, Pages is the name of the Word Processing package in Iwork 9.


 On 04/09/2009, at 10:50 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:


 Hi,
 The iWork Suite seems to be pritty accessible from what I can tell.
 It has
 done what I needed so far, which is good especially when it comes to
 getting
 work for college classes accomplished and I don't feel like
 switching to my
 Windows machines to get the assignment or whatever done.
 HTH,
 Jeffrey
 - Original Message -
 From: James  Nash james.austin1...@googlemail.com
 To: Mac visionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:40 AM
 Subject: Word processing on Mac OS X



 Hi folks,

 What are folks on the list using for Word Processing please?
 Although I
 don't need it right at the moemnt, I would like the ability to use
 footnotes
 and endnotes as well as tables of contents. Latex is great for
 academic
 writing nbut sometimes when there's an error and the file will not
 compile
 it can be very frustrating.

 I know that Nisus is in beta at the moment for use with
 SL.Hopefully, they
 have improved the accesibility and compatibility between Nisus and
 VO.

 I would be very greatful for any recommendations. I do not need an
 Office
 suite, but how accessible is the IWork suite. Unfortunately, I did
 not
 like
 OpenOffice and found it very clunky and not very intuitive.

 Thanks for any help you can provide.

 Take care

 james











 


  


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Re: Word processing on Mac OS X

2009-09-04 Thread Dane Trethowan

I look forward to trying it smile, bought that excellent little  
package nearly 3 years ago and haven't looked back, I really should  
give the software a run and see if its been updated and improved  
since I last used it, one of the features I liked in that software was  
the ability to write HTML coding, see the document as it would appear  
and view the actual coding.


On 04/09/2009, at 11:08 PM, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi Dane,

 I've used Nisus Pro for a long time and I msut say that the  
 developers are
 very open to accessibility issues. I wonder how well the new 1.3.1  
 of Pro
 will work under Snow Leopard when it comes out of beta.

 Thanks for the suggestions
 - Original Message -
 From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 1:46 PM
 Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X



 I use a combination of Open office and Pages - the latter is very  
 nice
 indeed I'm told under Snow Leopard though I haven't had the chance to
 try that for myself yet -.

 Another word processing package -available on its own - which is  
 super!
 to use is Nisus Writer Pro, very accessible and packed with all  
 sorts of
 Word Processing and desktop publishing features.

 If you want to go down the Free Road try Bean which does one hell  
 of a
 lot considering its free.



 James  Nash wrote:
 Hi folks,

 What are folks on the list using for Word Processing please?  
 Although I
 don't need it right at the moemnt, I would like the ability to use
 footnotes
 and endnotes as well as tables of contents. Latex is great for  
 academic
 writing nbut sometimes when there's an error and the file will not
 compile
 it can be very frustrating.

 I know that Nisus is in beta at the moment for use with  
 SL.Hopefully,
 they
 have improved the accesibility and compatibility between Nisus and  
 VO.

 I would be very greatful for any recommendations. I do not need an
 Office
 suite, but how accessible is the IWork suite. Unfortunately, I did  
 not
 like
 OpenOffice and found it very clunky and not very intuitive.

 Thanks for any help you can provide.

 Take care

 james





 -- 

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 From Melton Victoria Australia
 mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net
 Phone United Kingdom
 02032874641
 Phone Australia
 :0390058589
 Phone United States
 :8159261869
 Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954
 Mobile/SMS +61 438 571201
 MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net
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Re: Word processing on Mac OS X

2009-09-04 Thread Dane Trethowan

You expect me to summaries the features of Pages in one email message?  
We'll be here all night smile, what I've discovered so far is some  
very excellent auto-correct features, we've discussed the Auto  
Numbering and Auto-bulleting functionality of Pages but that's just  
the start, just play about with the menu system and you'll soon see  
what I mean, look in the help file which can be accessed with command- 
shift-? and download the manual.


On 04/09/2009, at 11:22 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:


 Cool. What kinds of features does it offer? I just started using it  
 so I'm
 not that familiar with it.
 Thanks,
 Jeffrey
 - Original Message -
 From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:19 AM
 Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X



 Pages contains many advanced features that I'm only now discovering
 and I've been using the software for much of this year.


 On 04/09/2009, at 10:57 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:


 Yep, it seems to be a nice little program, from what I can tell.
 - Original Message -
 From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:50 AM
 Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X



 Yes, Pages is the name of the Word Processing package in Iwork 9.


 On 04/09/2009, at 10:50 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:


 Hi,
 The iWork Suite seems to be pritty accessible from what I can  
 tell.
 It has
 done what I needed so far, which is good especially when it  
 comes to
 getting
 work for college classes accomplished and I don't feel like
 switching to my
 Windows machines to get the assignment or whatever done.
 HTH,
 Jeffrey
 - Original Message -
 From: James  Nash james.austin1...@googlemail.com
 To: Mac visionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:40 AM
 Subject: Word processing on Mac OS X



 Hi folks,

 What are folks on the list using for Word Processing please?
 Although I
 don't need it right at the moemnt, I would like the ability to  
 use
 footnotes
 and endnotes as well as tables of contents. Latex is great for
 academic
 writing nbut sometimes when there's an error and the file will  
 not
 compile
 it can be very frustrating.

 I know that Nisus is in beta at the moment for use with
 SL.Hopefully, they
 have improved the accesibility and compatibility between Nisus  
 and
 VO.

 I would be very greatful for any recommendations. I do not need  
 an
 Office
 suite, but how accessible is the IWork suite. Unfortunately, I  
 did
 not
 like
 OpenOffice and found it very clunky and not very intuitive.

 Thanks for any help you can provide.

 Take care

 james

















 


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Re: Word processing on Mac OS X

2009-09-04 Thread Jeffrey Shockley

Ah, I'll take a look at those resources.
Thanks.
Jeffrey
- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X



 You expect me to summaries the features of Pages in one email message?
 We'll be here all night smile, what I've discovered so far is some
 very excellent auto-correct features, we've discussed the Auto
 Numbering and Auto-bulleting functionality of Pages but that's just
 the start, just play about with the menu system and you'll soon see
 what I mean, look in the help file which can be accessed with command-
 shift-? and download the manual.


 On 04/09/2009, at 11:22 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:


 Cool. What kinds of features does it offer? I just started using it
 so I'm
 not that familiar with it.
 Thanks,
 Jeffrey
 - Original Message -
 From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:19 AM
 Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X



 Pages contains many advanced features that I'm only now discovering
 and I've been using the software for much of this year.


 On 04/09/2009, at 10:57 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:


 Yep, it seems to be a nice little program, from what I can tell.
 - Original Message -
 From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:50 AM
 Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X



 Yes, Pages is the name of the Word Processing package in Iwork 9.


 On 04/09/2009, at 10:50 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:


 Hi,
 The iWork Suite seems to be pritty accessible from what I can
 tell.
 It has
 done what I needed so far, which is good especially when it
 comes to
 getting
 work for college classes accomplished and I don't feel like
 switching to my
 Windows machines to get the assignment or whatever done.
 HTH,
 Jeffrey
 - Original Message -
 From: James  Nash james.austin1...@googlemail.com
 To: Mac visionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:40 AM
 Subject: Word processing on Mac OS X



 Hi folks,

 What are folks on the list using for Word Processing please?
 Although I
 don't need it right at the moemnt, I would like the ability to
 use
 footnotes
 and endnotes as well as tables of contents. Latex is great for
 academic
 writing nbut sometimes when there's an error and the file will
 not
 compile
 it can be very frustrating.

 I know that Nisus is in beta at the moment for use with
 SL.Hopefully, they
 have improved the accesibility and compatibility between Nisus
 and
 VO.

 I would be very greatful for any recommendations. I do not need
 an
 Office
 suite, but how accessible is the IWork suite. Unfortunately, I
 did
 not
 like
 OpenOffice and found it very clunky and not very intuitive.

 Thanks for any help you can provide.

 Take care

 james

















 


  


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Re: Word processing on Mac OS X

2009-09-04 Thread Dane Trethowan

As I said earlier, many things I haven't even explored yet so have fun  
and please let us all know what you think.


On 04/09/2009, at 11:30 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:


 Ah, I'll take a look at those resources.
 Thanks.
 Jeffrey
 - Original Message -
 From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:26 AM
 Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X



 You expect me to summaries the features of Pages in one email  
 message?
 We'll be here all night smile, what I've discovered so far is some
 very excellent auto-correct features, we've discussed the Auto
 Numbering and Auto-bulleting functionality of Pages but that's just
 the start, just play about with the menu system and you'll soon see
 what I mean, look in the help file which can be accessed with  
 command-
 shift-? and download the manual.


 On 04/09/2009, at 11:22 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:


 Cool. What kinds of features does it offer? I just started using it
 so I'm
 not that familiar with it.
 Thanks,
 Jeffrey
 - Original Message -
 From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:19 AM
 Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X



 Pages contains many advanced features that I'm only now discovering
 and I've been using the software for much of this year.


 On 04/09/2009, at 10:57 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:


 Yep, it seems to be a nice little program, from what I can tell.
 - Original Message -
 From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:50 AM
 Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X



 Yes, Pages is the name of the Word Processing package in Iwork 9.


 On 04/09/2009, at 10:50 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:


 Hi,
 The iWork Suite seems to be pritty accessible from what I can
 tell.
 It has
 done what I needed so far, which is good especially when it
 comes to
 getting
 work for college classes accomplished and I don't feel like
 switching to my
 Windows machines to get the assignment or whatever done.
 HTH,
 Jeffrey
 - Original Message -
 From: James  Nash james.austin1...@googlemail.com
 To: Mac visionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:40 AM
 Subject: Word processing on Mac OS X



 Hi folks,

 What are folks on the list using for Word Processing please?
 Although I
 don't need it right at the moemnt, I would like the ability to
 use
 footnotes
 and endnotes as well as tables of contents. Latex is great for
 academic
 writing nbut sometimes when there's an error and the file will
 not
 compile
 it can be very frustrating.

 I know that Nisus is in beta at the moment for use with
 SL.Hopefully, they
 have improved the accesibility and compatibility between Nisus
 and
 VO.

 I would be very greatful for any recommendations. I do not need
 an
 Office
 suite, but how accessible is the IWork suite. Unfortunately, I
 did
 not
 like
 OpenOffice and found it very clunky and not very intuitive.

 Thanks for any help you can provide.

 Take care

 james























 


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Re: Word processing on Mac OS X

2009-09-04 Thread Jeffrey Shockley

OK, Will do.
Thanks,
Jeffrey
- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X



 As I said earlier, many things I haven't even explored yet so have fun
 and please let us all know what you think.


 On 04/09/2009, at 11:30 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:


 Ah, I'll take a look at those resources.
 Thanks.
 Jeffrey
 - Original Message -
 From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:26 AM
 Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X



 You expect me to summaries the features of Pages in one email
 message?
 We'll be here all night smile, what I've discovered so far is some
 very excellent auto-correct features, we've discussed the Auto
 Numbering and Auto-bulleting functionality of Pages but that's just
 the start, just play about with the menu system and you'll soon see
 what I mean, look in the help file which can be accessed with
 command-
 shift-? and download the manual.


 On 04/09/2009, at 11:22 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:


 Cool. What kinds of features does it offer? I just started using it
 so I'm
 not that familiar with it.
 Thanks,
 Jeffrey
 - Original Message -
 From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:19 AM
 Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X



 Pages contains many advanced features that I'm only now discovering
 and I've been using the software for much of this year.


 On 04/09/2009, at 10:57 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:


 Yep, it seems to be a nice little program, from what I can tell.
 - Original Message -
 From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:50 AM
 Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X



 Yes, Pages is the name of the Word Processing package in Iwork 9.


 On 04/09/2009, at 10:50 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:


 Hi,
 The iWork Suite seems to be pritty accessible from what I can
 tell.
 It has
 done what I needed so far, which is good especially when it
 comes to
 getting
 work for college classes accomplished and I don't feel like
 switching to my
 Windows machines to get the assignment or whatever done.
 HTH,
 Jeffrey
 - Original Message -
 From: James  Nash james.austin1...@googlemail.com
 To: Mac visionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:40 AM
 Subject: Word processing on Mac OS X



 Hi folks,

 What are folks on the list using for Word Processing please?
 Although I
 don't need it right at the moemnt, I would like the ability to
 use
 footnotes
 and endnotes as well as tables of contents. Latex is great for
 academic
 writing nbut sometimes when there's an error and the file will
 not
 compile
 it can be very frustrating.

 I know that Nisus is in beta at the moment for use with
 SL.Hopefully, they
 have improved the accesibility and compatibility between Nisus
 and
 VO.

 I would be very greatful for any recommendations. I do not need
 an
 Office
 suite, but how accessible is the IWork suite. Unfortunately, I
 did
 not
 like
 OpenOffice and found it very clunky and not very intuitive.

 Thanks for any help you can provide.

 Take care

 james























 


  


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Re: Word processing on Mac OS X

2009-09-04 Thread James Nash

There's also a proof reading feature which I've heard about? This is not a 
grammar checker smile. BTW can I install Pages without Numbers and Keynote 
or do i need to instal all of them?
- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X



 You expect me to summaries the features of Pages in one email message?
 We'll be here all night smile, what I've discovered so far is some
 very excellent auto-correct features, we've discussed the Auto
 Numbering and Auto-bulleting functionality of Pages but that's just
 the start, just play about with the menu system and you'll soon see
 what I mean, look in the help file which can be accessed with command-
 shift-? and download the manual.


 On 04/09/2009, at 11:22 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:


 Cool. What kinds of features does it offer? I just started using it
 so I'm
 not that familiar with it.
 Thanks,
 Jeffrey
 - Original Message -
 From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:19 AM
 Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X



 Pages contains many advanced features that I'm only now discovering
 and I've been using the software for much of this year.


 On 04/09/2009, at 10:57 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:


 Yep, it seems to be a nice little program, from what I can tell.
 - Original Message -
 From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:50 AM
 Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X



 Yes, Pages is the name of the Word Processing package in Iwork 9.


 On 04/09/2009, at 10:50 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:


 Hi,
 The iWork Suite seems to be pritty accessible from what I can
 tell.
 It has
 done what I needed so far, which is good especially when it
 comes to
 getting
 work for college classes accomplished and I don't feel like
 switching to my
 Windows machines to get the assignment or whatever done.
 HTH,
 Jeffrey
 - Original Message -
 From: James  Nash james.austin1...@googlemail.com
 To: Mac visionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:40 AM
 Subject: Word processing on Mac OS X



 Hi folks,

 What are folks on the list using for Word Processing please?
 Although I
 don't need it right at the moemnt, I would like the ability to
 use
 footnotes
 and endnotes as well as tables of contents. Latex is great for
 academic
 writing nbut sometimes when there's an error and the file will
 not
 compile
 it can be very frustrating.

 I know that Nisus is in beta at the moment for use with
 SL.Hopefully, they
 have improved the accesibility and compatibility between Nisus
 and
 VO.

 I would be very greatful for any recommendations. I do not need
 an
 Office
 suite, but how accessible is the IWork suite. Unfortunately, I
 did
 not
 like
 OpenOffice and found it very clunky and not very intuitive.

 Thanks for any help you can provide.

 Take care

 james

















 


  


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Re: Word processing on Mac OS X

2009-09-04 Thread Dane Trethowan

Can't remember to be honest, I installed everything.


On 05/09/2009, at 12:14 AM, James  Nash wrote:


 There's also a proof reading feature which I've heard about? This is  
 not a
 grammar checker smile. BTW can I install Pages without Numbers and  
 Keynote
 or do i need to instal all of them?
 - Original Message -
 From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 2:26 PM
 Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X



 You expect me to summaries the features of Pages in one email  
 message?
 We'll be here all night smile, what I've discovered so far is some
 very excellent auto-correct features, we've discussed the Auto
 Numbering and Auto-bulleting functionality of Pages but that's just
 the start, just play about with the menu system and you'll soon see
 what I mean, look in the help file which can be accessed with  
 command-
 shift-? and download the manual.


 On 04/09/2009, at 11:22 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:


 Cool. What kinds of features does it offer? I just started using it
 so I'm
 not that familiar with it.
 Thanks,
 Jeffrey
 - Original Message -
 From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:19 AM
 Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X



 Pages contains many advanced features that I'm only now discovering
 and I've been using the software for much of this year.


 On 04/09/2009, at 10:57 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:


 Yep, it seems to be a nice little program, from what I can tell.
 - Original Message -
 From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:50 AM
 Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X



 Yes, Pages is the name of the Word Processing package in Iwork 9.


 On 04/09/2009, at 10:50 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:


 Hi,
 The iWork Suite seems to be pritty accessible from what I can
 tell.
 It has
 done what I needed so far, which is good especially when it
 comes to
 getting
 work for college classes accomplished and I don't feel like
 switching to my
 Windows machines to get the assignment or whatever done.
 HTH,
 Jeffrey
 - Original Message -
 From: James  Nash james.austin1...@googlemail.com
 To: Mac visionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:40 AM
 Subject: Word processing on Mac OS X



 Hi folks,

 What are folks on the list using for Word Processing please?
 Although I
 don't need it right at the moemnt, I would like the ability to
 use
 footnotes
 and endnotes as well as tables of contents. Latex is great for
 academic
 writing nbut sometimes when there's an error and the file will
 not
 compile
 it can be very frustrating.

 I know that Nisus is in beta at the moment for use with
 SL.Hopefully, they
 have improved the accesibility and compatibility between Nisus
 and
 VO.

 I would be very greatful for any recommendations. I do not need
 an
 Office
 suite, but how accessible is the IWork suite. Unfortunately, I
 did
 not
 like
 OpenOffice and found it very clunky and not very intuitive.

 Thanks for any help you can provide.

 Take care

 james























 


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Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X

2009-07-08 Thread James Nash

Thanks Mike
- Original Message - 
From: Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:16 AM
Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X



 Text edit comes with the mac, and it works well, the newest version of
 pages is also very accessible.
 On Jul 7, 2009, at 2:48 PM, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi folks,

 Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any
 other
 Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each
 with
 VO?

 Thanks

 James


 


  


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Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X

2009-07-08 Thread william lomas

and james, you can always get a trial of IWork I liked it when I tried  
it, i may purchase it wen and if i decide to upgrade to snowleopard

On 8 Jul 2009, at 09:23, James  Nash wrote:


 Thanks Mike
 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:16 AM
 Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X



 Text edit comes with the mac, and it works well, the newest version  
 of
 pages is also very accessible.
 On Jul 7, 2009, at 2:48 PM, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi folks,

 Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any
 other
 Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each
 with
 VO?

 Thanks

 James








 


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Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X

2009-07-08 Thread James Nash

Yes I have tried a deom version. I liked it. I just wonder if it is possible 
to buy each application separately. Although Keynote sounds very cool.

Take care

James
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From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X



 and james, you can always get a trial of IWork I liked it when I tried
 it, i may purchase it wen and if i decide to upgrade to snowleopard

 On 8 Jul 2009, at 09:23, James  Nash wrote:


 Thanks Mike
 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:16 AM
 Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X



 Text edit comes with the mac, and it works well, the newest version
 of
 pages is also very accessible.
 On Jul 7, 2009, at 2:48 PM, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi folks,

 Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any
 other
 Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each
 with
 VO?

 Thanks

 James








 


  


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Word Processing on Mac OS X

2009-07-07 Thread James Nash

Hi folks,

Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any other 
Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each with 
VO?

Thanks

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Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X

2009-07-07 Thread Alex Jurgensen

HI,
James:

Pages and Open Office 3.x are accessible, though neither has tables  
support yet. I have heard that the other one you mentioned is  
accessible too.

Regards,
Alex,


On 7-Jul-09, at 12:48 PM, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi folks,

 Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any  
 other
 Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each  
 with
 VO?

 Thanks

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Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X

2009-07-07 Thread Koumanova Rostislava

hi,
i use text edit allways , pages and   open office.

text edit is not a simple note editor and is very  potential, eg.  
saves tables, links ecc
iwork is as great as word ... and it is useful to open doc from  
moffice and insert formatting such as header or foot nottes. i love  
it's comment capacity, something which i never used with jaws.
i don't have i works and i save with open office. it is great for  
handling different formats such as pdf or word.
you can copy some files and paste in open office , it gives you only  
text.
i hope this makes sense for you.
rk




Il giorno 07/lug/09, alle ore 21:48, James  Nash ha scritto:


 Hi folks,

 Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any  
 other
 Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each  
 with
 VO?

 Thanks

 James


 


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Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X

2009-07-07 Thread Koumanova Rostislava

hi,
what are your needs?
since i swich to mac i never needed to turn back.
open office is very similar to ms office at least it has everything in  
the menu format.

rk

Il giorno 07/lug/09, alle ore 22:03, Simon Cavendish ha scritto:


 Dear James,

 I have been following various posts on this list but to date I haven't
 heard anything reassuring about Pages or Iworks that would persuade me
 that I could ditch Ms Office under Windows. However, I know that some
 people have used Pages and other applications with a degree of
 success. I've looked at the help files in Pages but I found them so
 unhelpful that I gave up.

 I seem to remember that you had some contacts with Nisus Pro. ARe you
 still able to talk to them about accessbility of their application? If
 they took our need on board, I feel they would be a great rival to Ms
 Office on the Mac.

 I am sorry not to be more helpful.

 With best and warmest wishes

 Simon
 On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:48, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi folks,

 Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any
 other
 Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each
 with
 VO?

 Thanks

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Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X

2009-07-07 Thread Barry Hadder

I recommend OpenOffice.

With Writer you have access to bullets and tables.  With those two  
things, you can make a pretty decent technical document.

Just a note about the tables:
You might not think that you can do anything with Them at first, but  
it does work.  However, Text presented in a table on a help page is  
unreadable by VO.  I've been in tuch with the developers about this.

On Jul 7, 2009, at 3:00 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:


 HI,
 James:

 Pages and Open Office 3.x are accessible, though neither has tables
 support yet. I have heard that the other one you mentioned is
 accessible too.

 Regards,
 Alex,


 On 7-Jul-09, at 12:48 PM, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi folks,

 Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any
 other
 Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each
 with
 VO?

 Thanks

 James





 


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Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X

2009-07-07 Thread Simon Cavendish

Dear Rostislava,

The major problems I have encountered trying to use Nisus Writer Pro  
is a lack of certainty in formatting. I would not know for instance  
when I was inserting bullets or other features. When toggling  
attributes like bold or udnerline, i do not know whether i toggle them  
on or off. It's difficult remember every time to do it. And of course,  
there is a problem with tables. I don't know when I am in the table  
and which row or column I am in.

If you have had more success, and if you are, lie me, a completely,  
blind person, I would be interested in your experiences.

I also have documents for which I would have to create headers or  
footers. AGain, it is an uncertainty of whre I am: main body text or  
header or footer, and having feedback about formatting.

With best wishes

Simon
On 7 Jul 2009, at 21:14, Koumanova Rostislava wrote:


 hi,
 what are your needs?
 since i swich to mac i never needed to turn back.
 open office is very similar to ms office at least it has everything in
 the menu format.

 rk

 Il giorno 07/lug/09, alle ore 22:03, Simon Cavendish ha scritto:


 Dear James,

 I have been following various posts on this list but to date I  
 haven't
 heard anything reassuring about Pages or Iworks that would persuade  
 me
 that I could ditch Ms Office under Windows. However, I know that some
 people have used Pages and other applications with a degree of
 success. I've looked at the help files in Pages but I found them so
 unhelpful that I gave up.

 I seem to remember that you had some contacts with Nisus Pro. ARe you
 still able to talk to them about accessbility of their application?  
 If
 they took our need on board, I feel they would be a great rival to Ms
 Office on the Mac.

 I am sorry not to be more helpful.

 With best and warmest wishes

 Simon
 On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:48, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi folks,

 Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any
 other
 Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each
 with
 VO?

 Thanks

 James








 


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Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X

2009-07-07 Thread James Nash

I have used Nisus in the past, and yes it was. There were a few access 
issues but I hope these will have been fixed.

They are a great bunch at Nisus. BTW can Pages be bought seperately from the 
online store?

Take care

james
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From: Alex Jurgensen asquare...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X



 HI,
 James:

 Pages and Open Office 3.x are accessible, though neither has tables
 support yet. I have heard that the other one you mentioned is
 accessible too.

 Regards,
 Alex,


 On 7-Jul-09, at 12:48 PM, James  Nash wrote:


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 Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any
 other
 Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each
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 VO?

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Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X

2009-07-07 Thread James Nash

Hi Simon,

Yes I do. i feel sure that if we were to contact them, they would be more 
than helpful. They are now at version 1.3 for Pro. You can get a 
downloadable free 15 day demo if you like.

Although i use Latex for writing, it is always grat to use a word processor 
like Nisus. When i get my new Mac I will look at the new Nisus version.

Take care

James
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From: Simon Cavendish simon.cavend...@googlemail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X



 Dear James,

 I have been following various posts on this list but to date I haven't
 heard anything reassuring about Pages or Iworks that would persuade me
 that I could ditch Ms Office under Windows. However, I know that some
 people have used Pages and other applications with a degree of
 success. I've looked at the help files in Pages but I found them so
 unhelpful that I gave up.

 I seem to remember that you had some contacts with Nisus Pro. ARe you
 still able to talk to them about accessbility of their application? If
 they took our need on board, I feel they would be a great rival to Ms
 Office on the Mac.

 I am sorry not to be more helpful.

 With best and warmest wishes

 Simon
 On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:48, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi folks,

 Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any
 other
 Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each
 with
 VO?

 Thanks

 James


 


  


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Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X

2009-07-07 Thread James Nash

Thank you. It certainly does. Can I suggest that you check out Nisus Writer 
too?
Got to: www.nisus.com
Thanks

james
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From: Koumanova Rostislava rossy...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X



 hi,
 i use text edit allways , pages and   open office.

 text edit is not a simple note editor and is very  potential, eg.
 saves tables, links ecc
 iwork is as great as word ... and it is useful to open doc from
 moffice and insert formatting such as header or foot nottes. i love
 it's comment capacity, something which i never used with jaws.
 i don't have i works and i save with open office. it is great for
 handling different formats such as pdf or word.
 you can copy some files and paste in open office , it gives you only
 text.
 i hope this makes sense for you.
 rk




 Il giorno 07/lug/09, alle ore 21:48, James  Nash ha scritto:


 Hi folks,

 Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any
 other
 Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each
 with
 VO?

 Thanks

 James


 


  


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Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X

2009-07-07 Thread Justin Harford

If you use LaTeX you are doing quite well.  LaTeX is far nicer under  
Mac OS X than Windows.

Justin
On Jul 7, 2009, at 1:36 PM, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi Simon,

 Yes I do. i feel sure that if we were to contact them, they would be  
 more
 than helpful. They are now at version 1.3 for Pro. You can get a
 downloadable free 15 day demo if you like.

 Although i use Latex for writing, it is always grat to use a word  
 processor
 like Nisus. When i get my new Mac I will look at the new Nisus  
 version.

 Take care

 James
 - Original Message -
 From: Simon Cavendish simon.cavend...@googlemail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:03 PM
 Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X



 Dear James,

 I have been following various posts on this list but to date I  
 haven't
 heard anything reassuring about Pages or Iworks that would persuade  
 me
 that I could ditch Ms Office under Windows. However, I know that some
 people have used Pages and other applications with a degree of
 success. I've looked at the help files in Pages but I found them so
 unhelpful that I gave up.

 I seem to remember that you had some contacts with Nisus Pro. ARe you
 still able to talk to them about accessbility of their application?  
 If
 they took our need on board, I feel they would be a great rival to Ms
 Office on the Mac.

 I am sorry not to be more helpful.

 With best and warmest wishes

 Simon
 On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:48, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi folks,

 Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any
 other
 Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each
 with
 VO?

 Thanks

 James








 


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Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X

2009-07-07 Thread Koumanova Rostislava

hi,
i use bold, underline in text edit.
for eg. i write my document and then i spell check and format by  
selecting and performing bold , underline ecc.
i handle a lot of tables using open office.
it does not read heading of the colum or row and i have a little tip  
for this.
if i have to fill the table i copy and paste the deading in the entire  
colom , then i overwrite it.
when i comlete the table i paste it in text edit or document of open  
office.
for bullets one can use iwork or open office.
i know it is not perfect but  there is  alway a way to do the things.
rk


Il giorno 07/lug/09, alle ore 22:28, Simon Cavendish ha scritto:


 Dear Rostislava,

 The major problems I have encountered trying to use Nisus Writer Pro
 is a lack of certainty in formatting. I would not know for instance
 when I was inserting bullets or other features. When toggling
 attributes like bold or udnerline, i do not know whether i toggle them
 on or off. It's difficult remember every time to do it. And of course,
 there is a problem with tables. I don't know when I am in the table
 and which row or column I am in.

 If you have had more success, and if you are, lie me, a completely,
 blind person, I would be interested in your experiences.

 I also have documents for which I would have to create headers or
 footers. AGain, it is an uncertainty of whre I am: main body text or
 header or footer, and having feedback about formatting.

 With best wishes

 Simon
 On 7 Jul 2009, at 21:14, Koumanova Rostislava wrote:


 hi,
 what are your needs?
 since i swich to mac i never needed to turn back.
 open office is very similar to ms office at least it has everything  
 in
 the menu format.

 rk

 Il giorno 07/lug/09, alle ore 22:03, Simon Cavendish ha scritto:


 Dear James,

 I have been following various posts on this list but to date I
 haven't
 heard anything reassuring about Pages or Iworks that would persuade
 me
 that I could ditch Ms Office under Windows. However, I know that  
 some
 people have used Pages and other applications with a degree of
 success. I've looked at the help files in Pages but I found them so
 unhelpful that I gave up.

 I seem to remember that you had some contacts with Nisus Pro. ARe  
 you
 still able to talk to them about accessbility of their application?
 If
 they took our need on board, I feel they would be a great rival to  
 Ms
 Office on the Mac.

 I am sorry not to be more helpful.

 With best and warmest wishes

 Simon
 On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:48, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi folks,

 Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any
 other
 Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of  
 each
 with
 VO?

 Thanks

 James











 


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Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X

2009-07-07 Thread Simon Cavendish

Dear James,

I will look at their demo. I've just e-mailed them myself.

Please keep me posted on your discoveries.

With best and wishes

Simon
On 7 Jul 2009, at 21:36, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi Simon,

 Yes I do. i feel sure that if we were to contact them, they would be  
 more
 than helpful. They are now at version 1.3 for Pro. You can get a
 downloadable free 15 day demo if you like.

 Although i use Latex for writing, it is always grat to use a word  
 processor
 like Nisus. When i get my new Mac I will look at the new Nisus  
 version.

 Take care

 James
 - Original Message -
 From: Simon Cavendish simon.cavend...@googlemail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:03 PM
 Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X



 Dear James,

 I have been following various posts on this list but to date I  
 haven't
 heard anything reassuring about Pages or Iworks that would persuade  
 me
 that I could ditch Ms Office under Windows. However, I know that some
 people have used Pages and other applications with a degree of
 success. I've looked at the help files in Pages but I found them so
 unhelpful that I gave up.

 I seem to remember that you had some contacts with Nisus Pro. ARe you
 still able to talk to them about accessbility of their application?  
 If
 they took our need on board, I feel they would be a great rival to Ms
 Office on the Mac.

 I am sorry not to be more helpful.

 With best and warmest wishes

 Simon
 On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:48, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi folks,

 Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any
 other
 Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each
 with
 VO?

 Thanks

 James








 


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Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X

2009-07-07 Thread James Nash

Hi Simon,

Like you i am blin as you know, and this is why although I like Nisus, I use 
Latex, but that is a steep learning curve. However, if you are interested in 
it or would like to know more, please E Mail me off list.

Take care

James
- Original Message - 
From: Simon Cavendish simon.cavend...@googlemail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X



 Dear Rostislava,

 The major problems I have encountered trying to use Nisus Writer Pro
 is a lack of certainty in formatting. I would not know for instance
 when I was inserting bullets or other features. When toggling
 attributes like bold or udnerline, i do not know whether i toggle them
 on or off. It's difficult remember every time to do it. And of course,
 there is a problem with tables. I don't know when I am in the table
 and which row or column I am in.

 If you have had more success, and if you are, lie me, a completely,
 blind person, I would be interested in your experiences.

 I also have documents for which I would have to create headers or
 footers. AGain, it is an uncertainty of whre I am: main body text or
 header or footer, and having feedback about formatting.

 With best wishes

 Simon
 On 7 Jul 2009, at 21:14, Koumanova Rostislava wrote:


 hi,
 what are your needs?
 since i swich to mac i never needed to turn back.
 open office is very similar to ms office at least it has everything in
 the menu format.

 rk

 Il giorno 07/lug/09, alle ore 22:03, Simon Cavendish ha scritto:


 Dear James,

 I have been following various posts on this list but to date I
 haven't
 heard anything reassuring about Pages or Iworks that would persuade
 me
 that I could ditch Ms Office under Windows. However, I know that some
 people have used Pages and other applications with a degree of
 success. I've looked at the help files in Pages but I found them so
 unhelpful that I gave up.

 I seem to remember that you had some contacts with Nisus Pro. ARe you
 still able to talk to them about accessbility of their application?
 If
 they took our need on board, I feel they would be a great rival to Ms
 Office on the Mac.

 I am sorry not to be more helpful.

 With best and warmest wishes

 Simon
 On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:48, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi folks,

 Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any
 other
 Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each
 with
 VO?

 Thanks

 James








 


 
 


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Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X

2009-07-07 Thread Barry Hadder

I use latex my self, but I haven't found a good way to be compatible  
with people who write Word docs.
On Jul 7, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Justin Harford wrote:


 If you use LaTeX you are doing quite well.  LaTeX is far nicer under
 Mac OS X than Windows.

 Justin
 On Jul 7, 2009, at 1:36 PM, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi Simon,

 Yes I do. i feel sure that if we were to contact them, they would be
 more
 than helpful. They are now at version 1.3 for Pro. You can get a
 downloadable free 15 day demo if you like.

 Although i use Latex for writing, it is always grat to use a word
 processor
 like Nisus. When i get my new Mac I will look at the new Nisus
 version.

 Take care

 James
 - Original Message -
 From: Simon Cavendish simon.cavend...@googlemail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:03 PM
 Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X



 Dear James,

 I have been following various posts on this list but to date I
 haven't
 heard anything reassuring about Pages or Iworks that would persuade
 me
 that I could ditch Ms Office under Windows. However, I know that  
 some
 people have used Pages and other applications with a degree of
 success. I've looked at the help files in Pages but I found them so
 unhelpful that I gave up.

 I seem to remember that you had some contacts with Nisus Pro. ARe  
 you
 still able to talk to them about accessbility of their application?
 If
 they took our need on board, I feel they would be a great rival to  
 Ms
 Office on the Mac.

 I am sorry not to be more helpful.

 With best and warmest wishes

 Simon
 On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:48, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi folks,

 Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any
 other
 Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of  
 each
 with
 VO?

 Thanks

 James











 


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Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X

2009-07-07 Thread James Nash

I have used Latex for about two years and yes i agree it is. Just as an 
aside under Mc OS X do I need to use TEXShop  as it is from what I remember 
a 700MB program with all the packages etc. Could I not just use the command 
line as I do under Windows once I've installed TEX Live or something?

Thanks

James
- Original Message - 
From: Justin Harford blindst...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X



 If you use LaTeX you are doing quite well.  LaTeX is far nicer under
 Mac OS X than Windows.

 Justin
 On Jul 7, 2009, at 1:36 PM, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi Simon,

 Yes I do. i feel sure that if we were to contact them, they would be
 more
 than helpful. They are now at version 1.3 for Pro. You can get a
 downloadable free 15 day demo if you like.

 Although i use Latex for writing, it is always grat to use a word
 processor
 like Nisus. When i get my new Mac I will look at the new Nisus
 version.

 Take care

 James
 - Original Message -
 From: Simon Cavendish simon.cavend...@googlemail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:03 PM
 Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X



 Dear James,

 I have been following various posts on this list but to date I
 haven't
 heard anything reassuring about Pages or Iworks that would persuade
 me
 that I could ditch Ms Office under Windows. However, I know that some
 people have used Pages and other applications with a degree of
 success. I've looked at the help files in Pages but I found them so
 unhelpful that I gave up.

 I seem to remember that you had some contacts with Nisus Pro. ARe you
 still able to talk to them about accessbility of their application?
 If
 they took our need on board, I feel they would be a great rival to Ms
 Office on the Mac.

 I am sorry not to be more helpful.

 With best and warmest wishes

 Simon
 On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:48, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi folks,

 Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any
 other
 Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each
 with
 VO?

 Thanks

 James








 


 
 


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Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X

2009-07-07 Thread James Nash

Perhaps we should take this of list although it is VO related as it works 
with VO.

There are some conversion tools. If you do a Google search you should find 
them.

Take care

James
- Original Message - 
From: Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X



 I use latex my self, but I haven't found a good way to be compatible
 with people who write Word docs.
 On Jul 7, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Justin Harford wrote:


 If you use LaTeX you are doing quite well.  LaTeX is far nicer under
 Mac OS X than Windows.

 Justin
 On Jul 7, 2009, at 1:36 PM, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi Simon,

 Yes I do. i feel sure that if we were to contact them, they would be
 more
 than helpful. They are now at version 1.3 for Pro. You can get a
 downloadable free 15 day demo if you like.

 Although i use Latex for writing, it is always grat to use a word
 processor
 like Nisus. When i get my new Mac I will look at the new Nisus
 version.

 Take care

 James
 - Original Message -
 From: Simon Cavendish simon.cavend...@googlemail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:03 PM
 Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X



 Dear James,

 I have been following various posts on this list but to date I
 haven't
 heard anything reassuring about Pages or Iworks that would persuade
 me
 that I could ditch Ms Office under Windows. However, I know that
 some
 people have used Pages and other applications with a degree of
 success. I've looked at the help files in Pages but I found them so
 unhelpful that I gave up.

 I seem to remember that you had some contacts with Nisus Pro. ARe
 you
 still able to talk to them about accessbility of their application?
 If
 they took our need on board, I feel they would be a great rival to
 Ms
 Office on the Mac.

 I am sorry not to be more helpful.

 With best and warmest wishes

 Simon
 On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:48, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi folks,

 Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any
 other
 Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of
 each
 with
 VO?

 Thanks

 James











 


  


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Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X

2009-07-07 Thread Barry Hadder

You don't have to use TEXShop.  You can just run the tools from the  
command line.

I should also mention that I have noticed some ligatures not showing  
up correctly in pdf files generated with pdflatex or dvipdf.   
lowercase fi is one that comes to mind.  I haven't a clue as to why  
this is so if anybody knows I would appreciate the info.

On Jul 7, 2009, at 4:13 PM, James  Nash wrote:


 I have used Latex for about two years and yes i agree it is. Just as  
 an
 aside under Mc OS X do I need to use TEXShop  as it is from what I  
 remember
 a 700MB program with all the packages etc. Could I not just use the  
 command
 line as I do under Windows once I've installed TEX Live or something?

 Thanks

 James
 - Original Message -
 From: Justin Harford blindst...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:48 PM
 Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X



 If you use LaTeX you are doing quite well.  LaTeX is far nicer under
 Mac OS X than Windows.

 Justin
 On Jul 7, 2009, at 1:36 PM, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi Simon,

 Yes I do. i feel sure that if we were to contact them, they would be
 more
 than helpful. They are now at version 1.3 for Pro. You can get a
 downloadable free 15 day demo if you like.

 Although i use Latex for writing, it is always grat to use a word
 processor
 like Nisus. When i get my new Mac I will look at the new Nisus
 version.

 Take care

 James
 - Original Message -
 From: Simon Cavendish simon.cavend...@googlemail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:03 PM
 Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X



 Dear James,

 I have been following various posts on this list but to date I
 haven't
 heard anything reassuring about Pages or Iworks that would persuade
 me
 that I could ditch Ms Office under Windows. However, I know that  
 some
 people have used Pages and other applications with a degree of
 success. I've looked at the help files in Pages but I found them so
 unhelpful that I gave up.

 I seem to remember that you had some contacts with Nisus Pro. ARe  
 you
 still able to talk to them about accessbility of their application?
 If
 they took our need on board, I feel they would be a great rival  
 to Ms
 Office on the Mac.

 I am sorry not to be more helpful.

 With best and warmest wishes

 Simon
 On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:48, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi folks,

 Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed  
 any
 other
 Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of  
 each
 with
 VO?

 Thanks

 James















 


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Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X

2009-07-07 Thread Barry Hadder

Well I don't think that this is just a Voiceover list and you are the  
one who started the Word Processing on Mac OS10 discussion.  Which I  
think is a valid topic incidentally.

  I know about other conversion utilities.  I met that I haven't found  
one that worked well yet.  Hense the need for a Word Processor.


On Jul 7, 2009, at 4:16 PM, James  Nash wrote:


 Perhaps we should take this of list although it is VO related as it  
 works
 with VO.

 There are some conversion tools. If you do a Google search you  
 should find
 them.

 Take care

 James
 - Original Message -
 From: Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:14 PM
 Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X



 I use latex my self, but I haven't found a good way to be compatible
 with people who write Word docs.
 On Jul 7, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Justin Harford wrote:


 If you use LaTeX you are doing quite well.  LaTeX is far nicer under
 Mac OS X than Windows.

 Justin
 On Jul 7, 2009, at 1:36 PM, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi Simon,

 Yes I do. i feel sure that if we were to contact them, they would  
 be
 more
 than helpful. They are now at version 1.3 for Pro. You can get a
 downloadable free 15 day demo if you like.

 Although i use Latex for writing, it is always grat to use a word
 processor
 like Nisus. When i get my new Mac I will look at the new Nisus
 version.

 Take care

 James
 - Original Message -
 From: Simon Cavendish simon.cavend...@googlemail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:03 PM
 Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X



 Dear James,

 I have been following various posts on this list but to date I
 haven't
 heard anything reassuring about Pages or Iworks that would  
 persuade
 me
 that I could ditch Ms Office under Windows. However, I know that
 some
 people have used Pages and other applications with a degree of
 success. I've looked at the help files in Pages but I found them  
 so
 unhelpful that I gave up.

 I seem to remember that you had some contacts with Nisus Pro. ARe
 you
 still able to talk to them about accessbility of their  
 application?
 If
 they took our need on board, I feel they would be a great rival to
 Ms
 Office on the Mac.

 I am sorry not to be more helpful.

 With best and warmest wishes

 Simon
 On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:48, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi folks,

 Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed  
 any
 other
 Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of
 each
 with
 VO?

 Thanks

 James

















 


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Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X

2009-07-07 Thread James Nash

Hi Barry,

Could you E Mail me offf list and tell me what I have to do? Do I need to 
install something other than TEXShop or is the Latex already built in to Mac 
OS X?


Also, I E Mailed Apple Accessibility about that problem and someone very 
kindly explained what ligatures were although i can't remember.   I think 
the work around for  this problem is to put braces around the faulty 
ligatures.
Thanks

James
- Original Message - 
From: Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X



 You don't have to use TEXShop.  You can just run the tools from the
 command line.

 I should also mention that I have noticed some ligatures not showing
 up correctly in pdf files generated with pdflatex or dvipdf.
 lowercase fi is one that comes to mind.  I haven't a clue as to why
 this is so if anybody knows I would appreciate the info.

 On Jul 7, 2009, at 4:13 PM, James  Nash wrote:


 I have used Latex for about two years and yes i agree it is. Just as
 an
 aside under Mc OS X do I need to use TEXShop  as it is from what I
 remember
 a 700MB program with all the packages etc. Could I not just use the
 command
 line as I do under Windows once I've installed TEX Live or something?

 Thanks

 James
 - Original Message -
 From: Justin Harford blindst...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:48 PM
 Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X



 If you use LaTeX you are doing quite well.  LaTeX is far nicer under
 Mac OS X than Windows.

 Justin
 On Jul 7, 2009, at 1:36 PM, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi Simon,

 Yes I do. i feel sure that if we were to contact them, they would be
 more
 than helpful. They are now at version 1.3 for Pro. You can get a
 downloadable free 15 day demo if you like.

 Although i use Latex for writing, it is always grat to use a word
 processor
 like Nisus. When i get my new Mac I will look at the new Nisus
 version.

 Take care

 James
 - Original Message -
 From: Simon Cavendish simon.cavend...@googlemail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:03 PM
 Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X



 Dear James,

 I have been following various posts on this list but to date I
 haven't
 heard anything reassuring about Pages or Iworks that would persuade
 me
 that I could ditch Ms Office under Windows. However, I know that
 some
 people have used Pages and other applications with a degree of
 success. I've looked at the help files in Pages but I found them so
 unhelpful that I gave up.

 I seem to remember that you had some contacts with Nisus Pro. ARe
 you
 still able to talk to them about accessbility of their application?
 If
 they took our need on board, I feel they would be a great rival
 to Ms
 Office on the Mac.

 I am sorry not to be more helpful.

 With best and warmest wishes

 Simon
 On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:48, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi folks,

 Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed
 any
 other
 Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of
 each
 with
 VO?

 Thanks

 James















 


  


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Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X

2009-07-07 Thread James Nash

lol yes I was wasn't I.

Oh I'm sorry, my mistake I misunderstood your message. Actually, there is a 
program callled Scrivener which translates into Latex. I don't know if it 
back translates though and it is 40 USD after the demo runs out.
- Original Message - 
From: Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X



 Well I don't think that this is just a Voiceover list and you are the
 one who started the Word Processing on Mac OS10 discussion.  Which I
 think is a valid topic incidentally.

  I know about other conversion utilities.  I met that I haven't found
 one that worked well yet.  Hense the need for a Word Processor.


 On Jul 7, 2009, at 4:16 PM, James  Nash wrote:


 Perhaps we should take this of list although it is VO related as it
 works
 with VO.

 There are some conversion tools. If you do a Google search you
 should find
 them.

 Take care

 James
 - Original Message -
 From: Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:14 PM
 Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X



 I use latex my self, but I haven't found a good way to be compatible
 with people who write Word docs.
 On Jul 7, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Justin Harford wrote:


 If you use LaTeX you are doing quite well.  LaTeX is far nicer under
 Mac OS X than Windows.

 Justin
 On Jul 7, 2009, at 1:36 PM, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi Simon,

 Yes I do. i feel sure that if we were to contact them, they would
 be
 more
 than helpful. They are now at version 1.3 for Pro. You can get a
 downloadable free 15 day demo if you like.

 Although i use Latex for writing, it is always grat to use a word
 processor
 like Nisus. When i get my new Mac I will look at the new Nisus
 version.

 Take care

 James
 - Original Message -
 From: Simon Cavendish simon.cavend...@googlemail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:03 PM
 Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X



 Dear James,

 I have been following various posts on this list but to date I
 haven't
 heard anything reassuring about Pages or Iworks that would
 persuade
 me
 that I could ditch Ms Office under Windows. However, I know that
 some
 people have used Pages and other applications with a degree of
 success. I've looked at the help files in Pages but I found them
 so
 unhelpful that I gave up.

 I seem to remember that you had some contacts with Nisus Pro. ARe
 you
 still able to talk to them about accessbility of their
 application?
 If
 they took our need on board, I feel they would be a great rival to
 Ms
 Office on the Mac.

 I am sorry not to be more helpful.

 With best and warmest wishes

 Simon
 On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:48, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi folks,

 Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed
 any
 other
 Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of
 each
 with
 VO?

 Thanks

 James

















 


 
 


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