Re: Either issues when using vmware fusion on a silicon based Mac if you have to use Communications port serial port.

2024-04-22 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
I guess there’s usb support for such devices now a days.
/A

> 21 apr. 2024 kl. 20:50 skrev Maurice A. Mines :
> 
> Hello everyone I have a amateur radio operator friend, who wants to switch 
> from windows to Mac, this friend however is very concerned that if they pick 
> using vmware fusion as the software to virtualize Microsoft Windows, that he 
> will have to stop using" RT systems" handheld radio programming software. The 
> reason why this might be a real issue is because this friend believes that 
> one cannot use the serial port cable that that programming software requires 
> any virtual machine under vmware Fusion. Is this true? I don't run being 
> fusion on my machine so I cannot answer Friends question.
> 
> Here's hoping that someone on the list has the answer, to this question.
> 
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Either issues when using vmware fusion on a silicon based Mac if you have to use Communications port serial port.

2024-04-21 Thread Maurice A. Mines
Hello everyone I have a amateur radio operator friend, who wants to switch from 
windows to Mac, this friend however is very concerned that if they pick using 
vmware fusion as the software to virtualize Microsoft Windows, that he will 
have to stop using" RT systems" handheld radio programming software. The reason 
why this might be a real issue is because this friend believes that one cannot 
use the serial port cable that that programming software requires any virtual 
machine under vmware Fusion. Is this true? I don't run being fusion on my 
machine so I cannot answer Friends question.

Here's hoping that someone on the list has the answer, to this question.

73 20 Alfredo who's on this list.
My call sign is kd0iko.
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-03-01 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
The issue is licensing Fusion. Some kind of license is required, and
this is arranged during the web-based back and forth that leads to
package and license file downloads. The free license simply isn't
offered as an option. Only paid options are offered.


'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
>Has anyone had success getting the free license for VMware Player 13.5?
> What is the issue with this process? Thanks.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
>  -Helen Keller
> My e-Mail:
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 2/20/2024 4:21 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> > The on line process doesn't work. I don't know why, but other people
> > have had the same problem.
> > 
> > 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
> > > What is the issue with renewing? I will need to do the same as well.
> > > 
> > >  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> > > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
> > >   -Helen Keller
> > > My e-Mail:
> > > ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> > > 
> > > On 2/19/2024 12:17 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> > > > There's an available license that's free of charge. It's available to
> > > > students and to other categories they name. I have had one based on my
> > > > W3C activities for some time.
> > > > 
> > > > However, I've been unable to renew. It's been very frustrating.
> > > > 
> > > > Janina
> > > > 
> > > > Anders Holmberg writes:
> > > > > Hi!
> > > > > Is the fusion free of charge or do I have to pay for it?
> > > > > Bless.
> > > > > /A
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 11 feb. 2024 kl. 15:57 skrev 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries 
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I get this when I try to install windows 11.
> > > > > > Check your Startup Disk in the virtual machine settings. If you 
> > > > > > have not installed an operating system yet, you can choose an 
> > > > > > installation disc or disc image in the CD/DVD settings and restart 
> > > > > > the virtual machine.
> > > > > > I???m on an Intel mac.
> > > > > > On Feb 11, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Anders Holmberg 
> > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Hi!
> > > > > > > Vocr is so hard to use.
> > > > > > > I have tried that but was wondering should I turn off VoiceOver?
> > > > > > > /A
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 11 feb. 2024 kl. 00:57 skrev Kelly Ford 
> > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Well,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I am now running a VMWare VM on my M1 Mac. I have to use VOCR 
> > > > > > > > to get through setup and then add VMWare tools.  Only then did 
> > > > > > > > I get Narrator sound.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I???m not entirely sure why because I did get the windows 
> > > > > > > > startup sound after going through the first steps of OS install 
> > > > > > > > where you enter a product key and such. But I didn???t have 
> > > > > > > > Narrator speech.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Kelly
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On Feb 10, 2024, at 5:28???PM, Kelly Ford 
> > > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > For what it is worth, my Mac updated to the latest developer 
> > > > > > > > > beta today. VMware virtual machines do not shutdown 
> > > > > > > > > immediately any longer but I???m not getting any sound from a 
> > > > > > > > > VM to use Narrator during OS install
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I am trying to get through it with VOCR so we will see.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Feb 9, 2024, at 9:50???AM, Anders Holmberg 
> > > > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Hi!
> > > > > > > > > > Hi!
> > > > > > > > > > Vocr is very very tedious.
> > > > > > > > > > So I rather not use any virtual machine.
> > > > > > > > > > I will try to find a refurbished laptop that I can install 
> > > > > > > > > > linux onto or windows.
> > > > > > > > > > Bless.
> > > > > > > > > > /A
> > > > > > > > > > > 8 feb. 2024 kl. 03:02 skrev 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via 
> > > > > > > > > > > MacVisionaries :
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > How do you find Parallels? Are you all right using VOCR? 
> > > > > > > > > > > I find it very tedious and definitely would prefer to 
> > > > > > > > > > > avoid that.
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-02-28 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   Has anyone had success getting the free license for VMware Player 
13.5? What is the issue with this process? Thanks.


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On 2/20/2024 4:21 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

The on line process doesn't work. I don't know why, but other people
have had the same problem.

'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:

What is the issue with renewing? I will need to do the same as well.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
  -Helen Keller
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 2/19/2024 12:17 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

There's an available license that's free of charge. It's available to
students and to other categories they name. I have had one based on my
W3C activities for some time.

However, I've been unable to renew. It's been very frustrating.

Janina

Anders Holmberg writes:

Hi!
Is the fusion free of charge or do I have to pay for it?
Bless.
/A


11 feb. 2024 kl. 15:57 skrev 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries 
:

I get this when I try to install windows 11.
Check your Startup Disk in the virtual machine settings. If you have not 
installed an operating system yet, you can choose an installation disc or disc 
image in the CD/DVD settings and restart the virtual machine.
I???m on an Intel mac.
On Feb 11, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:


Hi!
Vocr is so hard to use.
I have tried that but was wondering should I turn off VoiceOver?
/A


11 feb. 2024 kl. 00:57 skrev Kelly Ford :

Well,

I am now running a VMWare VM on my M1 Mac. I have to use VOCR to get through 
setup and then add VMWare tools.  Only then did I get Narrator sound.

I???m not entirely sure why because I did get the windows startup sound after 
going through the first steps of OS install where you enter a product key and 
such. But I didn???t have Narrator speech.

Kelly



On Feb 10, 2024, at 5:28???PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:

Hi,

For what it is worth, my Mac updated to the latest developer beta today. VMware 
virtual machines do not shutdown immediately any longer but I???m not getting 
any sound from a VM to use Narrator during OS install

I am trying to get through it with VOCR so we will see.




On Feb 9, 2024, at 9:50???AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Hi!
Vocr is very very tedious.
So I rather not use any virtual machine.
I will try to find a refurbished laptop that I can install linux onto or 
windows.
Bless.
/A

8 feb. 2024 kl. 03:02 skrev 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
:

How do you find Parallels? Are you all right using VOCR? I find it very tedious 
and definitely would prefer to avoid that.

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Re: Windows Insider and VMWare Fusion

2024-02-24 Thread 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries


On 24/2/24 07:41, Kelly Ford wrote:

The processor itself between the two VMs ends up showing differently
inside of Windows. They are configured the same in the two VMs in terms
of what resources the VMs are using.

Has anyone else hit this and found a solution?


Are there any CPU options you could change, for example by allowing the 
VM to use all of the cores? I suspect this wouldn't work, but it would 
be worth trying any relevant configuration options. Otherwise, it's a 
VMWare bug report.


I'm so glad I've left the Windows world - at least for now.

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Windows Insider and VMWare Fusion

2024-02-24 Thread Kelly Ford
Hi,

There is always that next wrinkle with this sort of stuff I suppose. As I think 
everyone knows, until recently VMWare fFusion wasn’t working right on silicon 
Macs and VMs would shut down immediately.

The most recent updates, at least for betas, of the Mac OS resolved that issue 
so now I can install and run a Windows 11 VM using VMWare Fusion.

The initial VM downloads an ISO for ARM from Microsoft and works.

Now though, when I try and join the Windows Insider program on the machine I’m 
told the PC doesn’t meet the hardware requirements. The failing item is the 
processor.

Interestingly, with Parallels, which starts with the equivalent ISO, I’ve had 
no trouble creating the VM and also joining the Insider program.

The processor itself between the two VMs ends up showing differently inside of 
Windows. They are configured the same in the two VMs in terms of what resources 
the VMs are using.

Has anyone else hit this and found a solution?


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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-02-21 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
I was referring to the license for VMware Fusion.

mattias jonsson writes:
> i wonder if narrator are removed from newer windows arm builds setup
> 
> > 19 feb. 2024 kl. 21:17 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> > :
> > 
> > There's an available license that's free of charge. It's available to
> > students and to other categories they name. I have had one based on my
> > W3C activities for some time.
> > 
> > However, I've been unable to renew. It's been very frustrating.
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > Anders Holmberg writes:
> >> Hi!
> >> Is the fusion free of charge or do I have to pay for it?
> >> Bless.
> >> /A
> >> 
> >>> 11 feb. 2024 kl. 15:57 skrev 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries 
> >>> :
> >>> 
> >>> I get this when I try to install windows 11.
> >>> Check your Startup Disk in the virtual machine settings. If you have not 
> >>> installed an operating system yet, you can choose an installation disc or 
> >>> disc image in the CD/DVD settings and restart the virtual machine.
> >>> I???m on an Intel mac.
> >>> On Feb 11, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Anders Holmberg  
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> Hi!
> >>>> Vocr is so hard to use.
> >>>> I have tried that but was wondering should I turn off VoiceOver?
> >>>> /A
> >>>> 
> >>>>> 11 feb. 2024 kl. 00:57 skrev Kelly Ford :
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Well,
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I am now running a VMWare VM on my M1 Mac. I have to use VOCR to get 
> >>>>> through setup and then add VMWare tools.  Only then did I get Narrator 
> >>>>> sound.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I???m not entirely sure why because I did get the windows startup sound 
> >>>>> after going through the first steps of OS install where you enter a 
> >>>>> product key and such. But I didn???t have Narrator speech.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Kelly
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> On Feb 10, 2024, at 5:28???PM, Kelly Ford  
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> For what it is worth, my Mac updated to the latest developer beta 
> >>>>>> today. VMware virtual machines do not shutdown immediately any longer 
> >>>>>> but I???m not getting any sound from a VM to use Narrator during OS 
> >>>>>> install
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I am trying to get through it with VOCR so we will see.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> On Feb 9, 2024, at 9:50???AM, Anders Holmberg  
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Hi!
> >>>>>>> Hi!
> >>>>>>> Vocr is very very tedious.
> >>>>>>> So I rather not use any virtual machine.
> >>>>>>> I will try to find a refurbished laptop that I can install linux onto 
> >>>>>>> or windows.
> >>>>>>> Bless.
> >>>>>>> /A
> >>>>>>>> 8 feb. 2024 kl. 03:02 skrev 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via 
> >>>>>>>> MacVisionaries :
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> How do you find Parallels? Are you all right using VOCR? I find it 
> >>>>>>>> very tedious and definitely would prefer to avoid that.
> >>>>>>>> 
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-02-20 Thread mattias jonsson
i wonder if narrator are removed from newer windows arm builds setup

> 19 feb. 2024 kl. 21:17 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> There's an available license that's free of charge. It's available to
> students and to other categories they name. I have had one based on my
> W3C activities for some time.
> 
> However, I've been unable to renew. It's been very frustrating.
> 
> Janina
> 
> Anders Holmberg writes:
>> Hi!
>> Is the fusion free of charge or do I have to pay for it?
>> Bless.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 11 feb. 2024 kl. 15:57 skrev 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> I get this when I try to install windows 11.
>>> Check your Startup Disk in the virtual machine settings. If you have not 
>>> installed an operating system yet, you can choose an installation disc or 
>>> disc image in the CD/DVD settings and restart the virtual machine.
>>> I???m on an Intel mac.
>>> On Feb 11, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Vocr is so hard to use.
 I have tried that but was wondering should I turn off VoiceOver?
 /A
 
> 11 feb. 2024 kl. 00:57 skrev Kelly Ford :
> 
> Well,
> 
> I am now running a VMWare VM on my M1 Mac. I have to use VOCR to get 
> through setup and then add VMWare tools.  Only then did I get Narrator 
> sound.
> 
> I???m not entirely sure why because I did get the windows startup sound 
> after going through the first steps of OS install where you enter a 
> product key and such. But I didn???t have Narrator speech.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2024, at 5:28???PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> For what it is worth, my Mac updated to the latest developer beta today. 
>> VMware virtual machines do not shutdown immediately any longer but I???m 
>> not getting any sound from a VM to use Narrator during OS install
>> 
>> I am trying to get through it with VOCR so we will see.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 9, 2024, at 9:50???AM, Anders Holmberg  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Hi!
>>> Vocr is very very tedious.
>>> So I rather not use any virtual machine.
>>> I will try to find a refurbished laptop that I can install linux onto 
>>> or windows.
>>> Bless.
>>> /A
 8 feb. 2024 kl. 03:02 skrev 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
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 very tedious and definitely would prefer to avoid that.
 
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-02-20 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   That is what I was afraid was the case. I had run into this shortly 
after upgrading to Sonoma last year. Was hoping it had been corrected by 
now.


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On 2/20/2024 4:21 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

The on line process doesn't work. I don't know why, but other people
have had the same problem.

'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:

What is the issue with renewing? I will need to do the same as well.

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On 2/19/2024 12:17 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

There's an available license that's free of charge. It's available to
students and to other categories they name. I have had one based on my
W3C activities for some time.

However, I've been unable to renew. It's been very frustrating.

Janina

Anders Holmberg writes:

Hi!
Is the fusion free of charge or do I have to pay for it?
Bless.
/A


11 feb. 2024 kl. 15:57 skrev 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries 
:

I get this when I try to install windows 11.
Check your Startup Disk in the virtual machine settings. If you have not 
installed an operating system yet, you can choose an installation disc or disc 
image in the CD/DVD settings and restart the virtual machine.
I???m on an Intel mac.
On Feb 11, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:


Hi!
Vocr is so hard to use.
I have tried that but was wondering should I turn off VoiceOver?
/A


11 feb. 2024 kl. 00:57 skrev Kelly Ford :

Well,

I am now running a VMWare VM on my M1 Mac. I have to use VOCR to get through 
setup and then add VMWare tools.  Only then did I get Narrator sound.

I???m not entirely sure why because I did get the windows startup sound after 
going through the first steps of OS install where you enter a product key and 
such. But I didn???t have Narrator speech.

Kelly



On Feb 10, 2024, at 5:28???PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:

Hi,

For what it is worth, my Mac updated to the latest developer beta today. VMware 
virtual machines do not shutdown immediately any longer but I???m not getting 
any sound from a VM to use Narrator during OS install

I am trying to get through it with VOCR so we will see.




On Feb 9, 2024, at 9:50???AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Hi!
Vocr is very very tedious.
So I rather not use any virtual machine.
I will try to find a refurbished laptop that I can install linux onto or 
windows.
Bless.
/A

8 feb. 2024 kl. 03:02 skrev 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
:

How do you find Parallels? Are you all right using VOCR? I find it very tedious 
and definitely would prefer to avoid that.

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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-02-20 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
The on line process doesn't work. I don't know why, but other people
have had the same problem.

'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
>What is the issue with renewing? I will need to do the same as well.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
>  -Helen Keller
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> On 2/19/2024 12:17 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> > There's an available license that's free of charge. It's available to
> > students and to other categories they name. I have had one based on my
> > W3C activities for some time.
> > 
> > However, I've been unable to renew. It's been very frustrating.
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > Anders Holmberg writes:
> > > Hi!
> > > Is the fusion free of charge or do I have to pay for it?
> > > Bless.
> > > /A
> > > 
> > > > 11 feb. 2024 kl. 15:57 skrev 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries 
> > > > :
> > > > 
> > > > I get this when I try to install windows 11.
> > > > Check your Startup Disk in the virtual machine settings. If you have 
> > > > not installed an operating system yet, you can choose an installation 
> > > > disc or disc image in the CD/DVD settings and restart the virtual 
> > > > machine.
> > > > I???m on an Intel mac.
> > > > On Feb 11, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Anders Holmberg  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hi!
> > > > > Vocr is so hard to use.
> > > > > I have tried that but was wondering should I turn off VoiceOver?
> > > > > /A
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 11 feb. 2024 kl. 00:57 skrev Kelly Ford :
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Well,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I am now running a VMWare VM on my M1 Mac. I have to use VOCR to 
> > > > > > get through setup and then add VMWare tools.  Only then did I get 
> > > > > > Narrator sound.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I???m not entirely sure why because I did get the windows startup 
> > > > > > sound after going through the first steps of OS install where you 
> > > > > > enter a product key and such. But I didn???t have Narrator speech.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Kelly
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Feb 10, 2024, at 5:28???PM, Kelly Ford 
> > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > For what it is worth, my Mac updated to the latest developer beta 
> > > > > > > today. VMware virtual machines do not shutdown immediately any 
> > > > > > > longer but I???m not getting any sound from a VM to use Narrator 
> > > > > > > during OS install
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I am trying to get through it with VOCR so we will see.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Feb 9, 2024, at 9:50???AM, Anders Holmberg 
> > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Hi!
> > > > > > > > Hi!
> > > > > > > > Vocr is very very tedious.
> > > > > > > > So I rather not use any virtual machine.
> > > > > > > > I will try to find a refurbished laptop that I can install 
> > > > > > > > linux onto or windows.
> > > > > > > > Bless.
> > > > > > > > /A
> > > > > > > > > 8 feb. 2024 kl. 03:02 skrev 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via 
> > > > > > > > > MacVisionaries :
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > How do you find Parallels? Are you all right using VOCR? I 
> > > > > > > > > find it very tedious and definitely would prefer to avoid 
> > > > > > > > > that.
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-02-19 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries

   What is the issue with renewing? I will need to do the same as well.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
 -Helen Keller
My e-Mail:
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On 2/19/2024 12:17 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

There's an available license that's free of charge. It's available to
students and to other categories they name. I have had one based on my
W3C activities for some time.

However, I've been unable to renew. It's been very frustrating.

Janina

Anders Holmberg writes:

Hi!
Is the fusion free of charge or do I have to pay for it?
Bless.
/A


11 feb. 2024 kl. 15:57 skrev 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries 
:

I get this when I try to install windows 11.
Check your Startup Disk in the virtual machine settings. If you have not 
installed an operating system yet, you can choose an installation disc or disc 
image in the CD/DVD settings and restart the virtual machine.
I???m on an Intel mac.
On Feb 11, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:


Hi!
Vocr is so hard to use.
I have tried that but was wondering should I turn off VoiceOver?
/A


11 feb. 2024 kl. 00:57 skrev Kelly Ford :

Well,

I am now running a VMWare VM on my M1 Mac. I have to use VOCR to get through 
setup and then add VMWare tools.  Only then did I get Narrator sound.

I???m not entirely sure why because I did get the windows startup sound after 
going through the first steps of OS install where you enter a product key and 
such. But I didn???t have Narrator speech.

Kelly



On Feb 10, 2024, at 5:28???PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:

Hi,

For what it is worth, my Mac updated to the latest developer beta today. VMware 
virtual machines do not shutdown immediately any longer but I???m not getting 
any sound from a VM to use Narrator during OS install

I am trying to get through it with VOCR so we will see.




On Feb 9, 2024, at 9:50???AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Hi!
Vocr is very very tedious.
So I rather not use any virtual machine.
I will try to find a refurbished laptop that I can install linux onto or 
windows.
Bless.
/A

8 feb. 2024 kl. 03:02 skrev 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
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How do you find Parallels? Are you all right using VOCR? I find it very tedious 
and definitely would prefer to avoid that.

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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-02-19 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
There's an available license that's free of charge. It's available to
students and to other categories they name. I have had one based on my
W3C activities for some time.

However, I've been unable to renew. It's been very frustrating.

Janina

Anders Holmberg writes:
> Hi!
> Is the fusion free of charge or do I have to pay for it?
> Bless.
> /A
> 
> > 11 feb. 2024 kl. 15:57 skrev 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries 
> > :
> > 
> > I get this when I try to install windows 11.
> > Check your Startup Disk in the virtual machine settings. If you have not 
> > installed an operating system yet, you can choose an installation disc or 
> > disc image in the CD/DVD settings and restart the virtual machine.
> > I???m on an Intel mac.
> > On Feb 11, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hi!
> >> Vocr is so hard to use.
> >> I have tried that but was wondering should I turn off VoiceOver?
> >> /A
> >> 
> >>> 11 feb. 2024 kl. 00:57 skrev Kelly Ford :
> >>> 
> >>> Well,
> >>> 
> >>> I am now running a VMWare VM on my M1 Mac. I have to use VOCR to get 
> >>> through setup and then add VMWare tools.  Only then did I get Narrator 
> >>> sound.
> >>> 
> >>> I???m not entirely sure why because I did get the windows startup sound 
> >>> after going through the first steps of OS install where you enter a 
> >>> product key and such. But I didn???t have Narrator speech.
> >>> 
> >>> Kelly
> >>> 
> >>> 
>  On Feb 10, 2024, at 5:28???PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
>  
>  Hi,
>  
>  For what it is worth, my Mac updated to the latest developer beta today. 
>  VMware virtual machines do not shutdown immediately any longer but I???m 
>  not getting any sound from a VM to use Narrator during OS install
>  
>  I am trying to get through it with VOCR so we will see.
>  
>  
>  
> > On Feb 9, 2024, at 9:50???AM, Anders Holmberg  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Hi!
> > Hi!
> > Vocr is very very tedious.
> > So I rather not use any virtual machine.
> > I will try to find a refurbished laptop that I can install linux onto 
> > or windows.
> > Bless.
> > /A
> >> 8 feb. 2024 kl. 03:02 skrev 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> >> :
> >> 
> >> How do you find Parallels? Are you all right using VOCR? I find it 
> >> very tedious and definitely would prefer to avoid that.
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-02-12 Thread 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
Fusion is a paid product, but you can use Player for free if that meets your 
needs. It doesn't do certain things like snapshots IIRC, but you can run a 
Windows VM.

Concerning the configuration, I'd customise the VM for the first time 
immediately after creating it, before even starting it. Then you can make sure 
you have everything correct, including disk drive and boot order. Windows won't 
need to be reconfigured after setup, just install the VMWare Tools.

Cheers,
Sabahattin

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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-02-12 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Is the fusion free of charge or do I have to pay for it?
Bless.
/A

> 11 feb. 2024 kl. 15:57 skrev 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> I get this when I try to install windows 11.
> Check your Startup Disk in the virtual machine settings. If you have not 
> installed an operating system yet, you can choose an installation disc or 
> disc image in the CD/DVD settings and restart the virtual machine.
> I’m on an Intel mac.
> On Feb 11, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Vocr is so hard to use.
>> I have tried that but was wondering should I turn off VoiceOver?
>> /A
>> 
>>> 11 feb. 2024 kl. 00:57 skrev Kelly Ford :
>>> 
>>> Well,
>>> 
>>> I am now running a VMWare VM on my M1 Mac. I have to use VOCR to get 
>>> through setup and then add VMWare tools.  Only then did I get Narrator 
>>> sound.
>>> 
>>> I’m not entirely sure why because I did get the windows startup sound after 
>>> going through the first steps of OS install where you enter a product key 
>>> and such. But I didn’t have Narrator speech.
>>> 
>>> Kelly
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 10, 2024, at 5:28 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 For what it is worth, my Mac updated to the latest developer beta today. 
 VMware virtual machines do not shutdown immediately any longer but I’m not 
 getting any sound from a VM to use Narrator during OS install
 
 I am trying to get through it with VOCR so we will see.
 
 
 
> On Feb 9, 2024, at 9:50 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Hi!
> Vocr is very very tedious.
> So I rather not use any virtual machine.
> I will try to find a refurbished laptop that I can install linux onto or 
> windows.
> Bless.
> /A
>> 8 feb. 2024 kl. 03:02 skrev 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> How do you find Parallels? Are you all right using VOCR? I find it very 
>> tedious and definitely would prefer to avoid that.
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-02-11 Thread 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries
I get this when I try to install windows 11.
Check your Startup Disk in the virtual machine settings. If you have not 
installed an operating system yet, you can choose an installation disc or disc 
image in the CD/DVD settings and restart the virtual machine.
I’m on an Intel mac.
On Feb 11, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Vocr is so hard to use.
> I have tried that but was wondering should I turn off VoiceOver?
> /A
> 
>> 11 feb. 2024 kl. 00:57 skrev Kelly Ford :
>> 
>> Well,
>> 
>> I am now running a VMWare VM on my M1 Mac. I have to use VOCR to get through 
>> setup and then add VMWare tools.  Only then did I get Narrator sound.
>> 
>> I’m not entirely sure why because I did get the windows startup sound after 
>> going through the first steps of OS install where you enter a product key 
>> and such. But I didn’t have Narrator speech.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 10, 2024, at 5:28 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> For what it is worth, my Mac updated to the latest developer beta today. 
>>> VMware virtual machines do not shutdown immediately any longer but I’m not 
>>> getting any sound from a VM to use Narrator during OS install
>>> 
>>> I am trying to get through it with VOCR so we will see.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 9, 2024, at 9:50 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Hi!
 Vocr is very very tedious.
 So I rather not use any virtual machine.
 I will try to find a refurbished laptop that I can install linux onto or 
 windows.
 Bless.
 /A
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-02-11 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Vocr is so hard to use.
I have tried that but was wondering should I turn off VoiceOver?
/A

> 11 feb. 2024 kl. 00:57 skrev Kelly Ford :
> 
> Well,
> 
> I am now running a VMWare VM on my M1 Mac. I have to use VOCR to get through 
> setup and then add VMWare tools.  Only then did I get Narrator sound.
> 
> I’m not entirely sure why because I did get the windows startup sound after 
> going through the first steps of OS install where you enter a product key and 
> such. But I didn’t have Narrator speech.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2024, at 5:28 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> For what it is worth, my Mac updated to the latest developer beta today. 
>> VMware virtual machines do not shutdown immediately any longer but I’m not 
>> getting any sound from a VM to use Narrator during OS install
>> 
>> I am trying to get through it with VOCR so we will see.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 9, 2024, at 9:50 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Hi!
>>> Vocr is very very tedious.
>>> So I rather not use any virtual machine.
>>> I will try to find a refurbished laptop that I can install linux onto or 
>>> windows.
>>> Bless.
>>> /A
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-02-10 Thread 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
Thanks for the report. I wonder why Narrator is now broken during setup? Do you 
suppose it applies to physical installs as well? Anyone know, tried it?

Anyway, I too am now running the beta and can confirm that it works for my 
Linux VM, in which I now have Braille through BRLTTY and, at least, PC Speaker 
support. Thank goodness. It was getting rather tortured, just using Terminal. 
But I’ve learned my lesson from this little episode, and that is that we must 
be prepared to jump out of an aeroplane at 30,000 feet, when times get 
desperate. Or something—I’m still working out what my options are, but keeping 
this BootCamp Windows partition seems prudent, as does getting to grips with 
UTM as a backup. I’d been meaning to renew this VM, anyway—it’s way out of date 
now.

Cheers,
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-02-10 Thread Kelly Ford
Well,

I am now running a VMWare VM on my M1 Mac. I have to use VOCR to get through 
setup and then add VMWare tools.  Only then did I get Narrator sound.

I’m not entirely sure why because I did get the windows startup sound after 
going through the first steps of OS install where you enter a product key and 
such. But I didn’t have Narrator speech.

Kelly


> On Feb 10, 2024, at 5:28 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> For what it is worth, my Mac updated to the latest developer beta today. 
> VMware virtual machines do not shutdown immediately any longer but I’m not 
> getting any sound from a VM to use Narrator during OS install
> 
> I am trying to get through it with VOCR so we will see.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 9, 2024, at 9:50 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Hi!
>> Vocr is very very tedious.
>> So I rather not use any virtual machine.
>> I will try to find a refurbished laptop that I can install linux onto or 
>> windows.
>> Bless.
>> /A
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-02-10 Thread Kelly Ford
Hi,

For what it is worth, my Mac updated to the latest developer beta today. VMware 
virtual machines do not shutdown immediately any longer but I’m not getting any 
sound from a VM to use Narrator during OS install

I am trying to get through it with VOCR so we will see.



> On Feb 9, 2024, at 9:50 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> Hi!
> Vocr is very very tedious.
> So I rather not use any virtual machine.
> I will try to find a refurbished laptop that I can install linux onto or 
> windows.
> Bless.
> /A
>> 8 feb. 2024 kl. 03:02 skrev 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-02-09 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Hi!
Vocr is very very tedious.
So I rather not use any virtual machine.
I will try to find a refurbished laptop that I can install linux onto or 
windows.
Bless.
/A
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-02-08 Thread 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
This bug affected both Intel and Apple Silicon Macs in the same way. Fusion 
does indeed work on Apple Silicon, when not affected by this bug. The latest 
Sonoma has fixed it; when I upgrade to the next minor point release, I'll see 
if the fix is in there, but if not then it's the next major point release that 
will have it, hopefully not too long.

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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-02-08 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   My Mac is Intel and VMware broke when I upgraded from Ventura  to 
Sonoma.


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On 2/8/2024 3:21 PM, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

Sorry to come in with no offer of help but a rather basic question on
thids topic.  Am I right in thinking from the discussion here that
people are/have been able to use Vmware Fusion on silicon-based Macs?
And that that had been working fine until Sonoma came along?  The
reason I ask is because I used to use Fusion on an older, intel-based
Macbook but thought when I bought a newer (2021) Macbook that the
silicon-based Macs couldn't be used with Fusion.  I gather from this
discussion and just reading at
https://blogs.vmware.com/teamfusion/2023/02/microsoft-now-officially-supports-windows-on-mac-computers-with-apple-silicon.html
that that changed?  But now Fusion isn't working with Sonoma.  Is that
an accurate summary of the situation?

Thanks,
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How do you find Parallels? Are you all right using VOCR? I find it very
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-02-08 Thread 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

Sorry to come in with no offer of help but a rather basic question on
thids topic.  Am I right in thinking from the discussion here that
people are/have been able to use Vmware Fusion on silicon-based Macs?
And that that had been working fine until Sonoma came along?  The
reason I ask is because I used to use Fusion on an older, intel-based
Macbook but thought when I bought a newer (2021) Macbook that the
silicon-based Macs couldn't be used with Fusion.  I gather from this
discussion and just reading at
https://blogs.vmware.com/teamfusion/2023/02/microsoft-now-officially-supports-windows-on-mac-computers-with-apple-silicon.html
that that changed?  But now Fusion isn't working with Sonoma.  Is that
an accurate summary of the situation?

Thanks,
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-02-07 Thread Maurice A. Mines
Hi just for  what  is is  worth, I amusing Parallels v 19.1 on  a  m2 Mac 
running fedora 38, and  windows 11 Arm 64. In  Windows I am  using Jaws 2024, 
J-Say v22.8 and  Dragon 15 pro standalone. The  spring version of NVDA for that 
same  Arm  version of  Microsoft Windows 11. In  Fedora I  am  using  Orca in 
the  gnome. That  is  my  setup and so fare  it  is  working for  me.

HTH Maurice  Mines

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> Yes, I looked in detail at LiMa. No doubt it has some use cases even for pure 
> VM without containers, but it's not really laser-focussed on that; it doesn't 
> give that much control over the virtualization layer, and it adds a lot of 
> overhead and limited OS selection to boot. UTM wouldn't be my first choice 
> either, but it's a machine emulator, even when it's using Apple's frameworks, 
> and gives you all the control you'd need. It is primarily because it's a GUI 
> app from the Mac App Store that enables it to utilise certain privileges 
> without escalation, like network bridging, but that's not ideal for 
> unattended virtual machines and there's no support for USB hot-plugging in 
> that scenario. My ideal would be a CLI wrapper around the frameworks, but 
> nobody has written one that's feature-complete and signed by Apple for using 
> all the entitlements. So we're back to Fusion for an all-in-one solution.
> 
> Now for something completely different. What's your Linux environment like? 
> What is your preferred desktop?
> 
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-02-07 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   I do have 13.5 stashed away. Problem I had before was trying to get 
a new free license for that version. Maybe I will try again if in fact 
the beta fixed the bug. Thanks for the offer! Feeling more hopeful 
now.This has been a long 5 months since Sonoma was released.


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On 2/7/2024 3:17 PM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries wrote:

The link was the one in my earlier email; here it is again:
https://communities.vmware.com/t5/VMware-Fusion-Discussions/VMs-shut-down-immediately-after-start-in-Fusion-Player-13-5-on/td-p/2992545

The really great news is that Apple have (surprise, surprise) just now updated 
Sonoma beta and, pending confirmation from another tester, fixed  the issue. 
Will miracles never cease?

I have the 13.5.0 disk image if you have a licence to run that. I dunno if 
earlier versions work, but 13.5 is definitely recommended for Sonoma. Let me 
know if you need this, I'll MailDrop it to you.

Cheers,
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-02-07 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   Missed that link but its now bookmarked. Cannot wait, what, 2-3 
weeks? Fingers crossed!


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On 2/7/2024 3:17 PM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries wrote:

The link was the one in my earlier email; here it is again:
https://communities.vmware.com/t5/VMware-Fusion-Discussions/VMs-shut-down-immediately-after-start-in-Fusion-Player-13-5-on/td-p/2992545

The really great news is that Apple have (surprise, surprise) just now updated 
Sonoma beta and, pending confirmation from another tester, fixed  the issue. 
Will miracles never cease?

I have the 13.5.0 disk image if you have a licence to run that. I dunno if 
earlier versions work, but 13.5 is definitely recommended for Sonoma. Let me 
know if you need this, I'll MailDrop it to you.

Cheers,
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-02-07 Thread 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries


On 27/1/24 20:45, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

I was happy to pay $10 9less one penny) for an accessible vm. Clearly,
I'm hoping this works out! I'll report when I've successfully started
running Arch in an UTM vm, or when I give up on trying.
This project, based on Qemu, received an endorsement in a podcast that I 
heard today:


https://github.com/lima-vm/lima

I have no information about its accessibility. It runs Linux in a 
virtual machine, supporting command line environments now, desktops 
still to come.


My preference is to run Linux directly on the hardware, but other people 
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-02-07 Thread 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
The link was the one in my earlier email; here it is again:
https://communities.vmware.com/t5/VMware-Fusion-Discussions/VMs-shut-down-immediately-after-start-in-Fusion-Player-13-5-on/td-p/2992545

The really great news is that Apple have (surprise, surprise) just now updated 
Sonoma beta and, pending confirmation from another tester, fixed  the issue. 
Will miracles never cease?

I have the 13.5.0 disk image if you have a licence to run that. I dunno if 
earlier versions work, but 13.5 is definitely recommended for Sonoma. Let me 
know if you need this, I'll MailDrop it to you.

Cheers,
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-02-07 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   Meant to ask earlier, if in fact one can only run version 13 of 
VMware under Sonoma. Again, thanks.


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On 2/7/2024 10:53 AM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries wrote:

I don't hold out much hope to be honest, but I'll let you know if the beta 
fixes it, otherwise I'm looking at more time booted into Windows and using UTM 
for Linux. Meanwhile, if you're affected and you care, pester Apple 
Accessibility about it—it may not be their product, but it's certainly their 
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-02-07 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   Ok can you find an official link to that from VMware? Then I could 
forward that to Apple Accessibility. I think doing that would be more 
effective. If I do not need to go to version 13 of VMware, it would be 
easier for me. I have been having trouble accessing anything on their 
site including captchas. Its all been a headache but I am not up to 
changing VM software right now. Thanks.


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I don't hold out much hope to be honest, but I'll let you know if the beta 
fixes it, otherwise I'm looking at more time booted into Windows and using UTM 
for Linux. Meanwhile, if you're affected and you care, pester Apple 
Accessibility about it—it may not be their product, but it's certainly their 
bug, and VMWare have confirmed it.



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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-02-07 Thread 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
I don't hold out much hope to be honest, but I'll let you know if the beta 
fixes it, otherwise I'm looking at more time booted into Windows and using UTM 
for Linux. Meanwhile, if you're affected and you care, pester Apple 
Accessibility about it—it may not be their product, but it's certainly their 
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-02-07 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   I have not. Last I heard, in order to use VMware under Sonoma, one 
had to update VMware version 12 to version 13.


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On 2/7/2024 10:04 AM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries wrote:

So there’s activity on the VMWare Communities thread discussing this:
https://communities.vmware.com/t5/VMware-Fusion-Discussions/VMs-shut-down-immediately-after-start-in-Fusion-Player-13-5-on/td-p/2992545

I have yet to try the latest Sonoma beta to see if this is fixed, as suggested. 
Anyone else tried it yet? I probably will eventually, if not.

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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-02-07 Thread 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
So there’s activity on the VMWare Communities thread discussing this:
https://communities.vmware.com/t5/VMware-Fusion-Discussions/VMs-shut-down-immediately-after-start-in-Fusion-Player-13-5-on/td-p/2992545

I have yet to try the latest Sonoma beta to see if this is fixed, as suggested. 
Anyone else tried it yet? I probably will eventually, if not.

Cheers,
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-01-28 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
I'm on an M2 Max Pro laptop.

Findings so far: May need sighted assistance if using the pre-built
image to get the screen reader going in the VM.

Alternatively, I should be able to install from the installation ISO, I
should be able to arrow down once within the first 15 seconds of booting
the ISO to enable Speakup during installation. This is what I'm trying
to do so far without success so far.

Terje Str?mberg writes:
> Are you using one of te m1, m2, m3 mac models ? Or an Intel mac ?
> Take care
> 
> 
> 
> tir. 26. des. 2023 kl. 18:18 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries <
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>:
> 
> > If that is true, then I will stop using Windows. It runs fine on
> > Monterey so will keep that for backup.
> >
> >  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
> >   -Helen Keller
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> >
> > On 12/26/2023 8:31 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> > > Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the
> > > free license.
> > >
> > > It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside
> > > from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that.
> > >
> > > Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay
> > > much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the
> > > accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not
> > > in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U.
> > >
> > > So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn
> > > and mend their ways?
> > >
> > > Argh!
> > >
> > > Janina
> > >
> > > 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
> > >> Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a
> > new
> > >> license key (free) for Player.
> > >>
> > >>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> > >> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
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> > >> On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> > >>> You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma.
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's
> > >>> another issue.
> > >>>
> > >>> hth
> > >>> Janina
> > >>>
> > >>> Anders Holmberg writes:
> >  Hi!
> >  DOes it even work on an m1 Mac?
> >  Or do you still have the intel?
> >  /A
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> > > 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries <
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-01-28 Thread Terje Strømberg
Are you using one of te m1, m2, m3 mac models ? Or an Intel mac ?
Take care



tir. 26. des. 2023 kl. 18:18 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries <
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>:

> If that is true, then I will stop using Windows. It runs fine on
> Monterey so will keep that for backup.
>
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
>   -Helen Keller
> My e-Mail:
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>
> On 12/26/2023 8:31 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> > Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the
> > free license.
> >
> > It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside
> > from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that.
> >
> > Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay
> > much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the
> > accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not
> > in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U.
> >
> > So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn
> > and mend their ways?
> >
> > Argh!
> >
> > Janina
> >
> > 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
> >> Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a
> new
> >> license key (free) for Player.
> >>
> >>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> >> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
> >>   -Helen Keller
> >> My e-Mail:
> >> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> >>
> >> On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> >>> You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma.
> >>>
> >>> I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's
> >>> another issue.
> >>>
> >>> hth
> >>> Janina
> >>>
> >>> Anders Holmberg writes:
>  Hi!
>  DOes it even work on an m1 Mac?
>  Or do you still have the intel?
>  /A
> 
> > 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries <
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-01-27 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Thanks, Matt! I'm downloading their pre-built Arch Linux image as I
write this.

I was happy to pay $10 9less one penny) for an accessible vm. Clearly,
I'm hoping this works out! I'll report when I've successfully started
running Arch in an UTM vm, or when I give up on trying.

Best,
Janina

'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries writes:
> Hi.
>  you can download UTM from the app store for $9 to support the developers, 
> but you don???t have to.
> you can get it for free from this link.
> https://mac.getutm.app
> 
> > On Jan 3, 2024, at 10:27 AM, matthew dyer  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I have not tried UTM, but looked at it in the App Store.  Is it accessible? 
> >  How does this work?  Thanks.
> > 
> > Matthew
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> On Jan 2, 2024, at 6:08???PM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> This whole situation makes me sad. Of course it's less convenient to carry 
> >> multiple machines around, and there's basically no real choice to 
> >> dual-boot, so our VM tools have to work. When they're snatched away from 
> >> us by indifference to critical accessibility bugs, we suffer, not only 
> >> lost opportunity but arguably the entire value proposition of these 
> >> expensive machines, which need to run multiple operating systems to 
> >> compensate for the inadequacy of any single operating system. Sigh.
> >> 
> >> I'm looking at the possible options, but realistically if you need to use 
> >> Braille in your guest it's Parallels or UTM. You have various options if 
> >> you only need textmode access as such, like vmctl/vmcli or qemu, but that 
> >> gets us back to the problem of macOS Terminal. Certainly it can't hurt you 
> >> to learn tdsr, however it's not a substitute to Terminal or the Linux 
> >> screen readers for speech and braille, but an adjunct.
> >> 
> >> I hope vmWare is fixed soon, as I still find it to be the best option for 
> >> me. Maybe one day Apple's native virtualization.framework will support USB 
> >> passthrough and Ethernet bridging from a graphical and command line 
> >> utility, but until then your best choice is UTM or directly invoking qemu. 
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-01-14 Thread 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries
Hi.
 you can download UTM from the app store for $9 to support the developers, but 
you don’t have to.
you can get it for free from this link.
https://mac.getutm.app

> On Jan 3, 2024, at 10:27 AM, matthew dyer  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have not tried UTM, but looked at it in the App Store.  Is it accessible?  
> How does this work?  Thanks.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 2, 2024, at 6:08 PM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> This whole situation makes me sad. Of course it's less convenient to carry 
>> multiple machines around, and there's basically no real choice to dual-boot, 
>> so our VM tools have to work. When they're snatched away from us by 
>> indifference to critical accessibility bugs, we suffer, not only lost 
>> opportunity but arguably the entire value proposition of these expensive 
>> machines, which need to run multiple operating systems to compensate for the 
>> inadequacy of any single operating system. Sigh.
>> 
>> I'm looking at the possible options, but realistically if you need to use 
>> Braille in your guest it's Parallels or UTM. You have various options if you 
>> only need textmode access as such, like vmctl/vmcli or qemu, but that gets 
>> us back to the problem of macOS Terminal. Certainly it can't hurt you to 
>> learn tdsr, however it's not a substitute to Terminal or the Linux screen 
>> readers for speech and braille, but an adjunct.
>> 
>> I hope vmWare is fixed soon, as I still find it to be the best option for 
>> me. Maybe one day Apple's native virtualization.framework will support USB 
>> passthrough and Ethernet bridging from a graphical and command line utility, 
>> but until then your best choice is UTM or directly invoking qemu. Good luck 
>> whatever you go with.
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-01-10 Thread 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
UTM is a graphical frontend to qemu. It's accessible, absolutely, once you have 
a feel for it—certainly more than Parallels which needs you to use VOCR just to 
get set up. Definitely give it a try and see if it meets your needs. The Spice 
guest tools (or qemu agent on other platforms) go into your guest VMs to have 
functionality that VMware Tools gives. Getting Windows initially set up is a 
wee bit tricky because no network, but that's easily overcome. I'm not sure how 
you'd find that but it's really no big deal, you open a command prompt and type 
a command, the machine reboots, and you go through setup without signing in to 
Microsoft. I've also never tried importing an existing VM, so I can't tell you 
how well that will go.

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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-01-10 Thread matthew dyer
Hi,

I have not tried UTM, but looked at it in the App Store.  Is it accessible?  
How does this work?  Thanks.

Matthew



> On Jan 2, 2024, at 6:08 PM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> This whole situation makes me sad. Of course it's less convenient to carry 
> multiple machines around, and there's basically no real choice to dual-boot, 
> so our VM tools have to work. When they're snatched away from us by 
> indifference to critical accessibility bugs, we suffer, not only lost 
> opportunity but arguably the entire value proposition of these expensive 
> machines, which need to run multiple operating systems to compensate for the 
> inadequacy of any single operating system. Sigh.
> 
> I'm looking at the possible options, but realistically if you need to use 
> Braille in your guest it's Parallels or UTM. You have various options if you 
> only need textmode access as such, like vmctl/vmcli or qemu, but that gets us 
> back to the problem of macOS Terminal. Certainly it can't hurt you to learn 
> tdsr, however it's not a substitute to Terminal or the Linux screen readers 
> for speech and braille, but an adjunct.
> 
> I hope vmWare is fixed soon, as I still find it to be the best option for me. 
> Maybe one day Apple's native virtualization.framework will support USB 
> passthrough and Ethernet bridging from a graphical and command line utility, 
> but until then your best choice is UTM or directly invoking qemu. Good luck 
> whatever you go with.
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-01-02 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Yeah, it's working now. It wasn't a few years ago when I installed on my
2013 era Macbook Air.

ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com writes:
> Hi,
> 
> To get arch working just do the following at bootup.  When the boot menu pops 
> up, down arrow once and press enter.  When arch starts speaking, just type 
> archinstall and follow the prompts and you should be good.  HTH.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Monday, January 1, 2024 3:15 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VMware Fusion/Player
> 
> If I can get the Arch Linux installer to give me an accessible
> installation, I'll go with Arch.
> 
> When I succeded with VMware on my 2013 era Macbook Air, I was unable to
> get the Arch installer to talk, so went with Debian. That worked
> wonderfully as long as the Air was my traveling laptop.
> 
> I've never used Asahi, but Speakup will work with any Linux. The issue
> with Speakup is how hard you have to work to get Speakup to work. On
> Arch and Debian it comes with the Linux kernel. On Fedora it does not,
> so one would have to recompile the kernel. I'm not up to speed on how
> one compiles kernels these days, and I don't want to spend my life
> compiling them just to run Fedora, for instance.
> 
> At the moment I'm stuck licensing VMware 13. I can get as far as
> inputting the license key. For some stupid reason the Fusion download
> isn't giving me the free license, even though I clearly qualify for it
> and it's the license I had on my Air. That little mess remains
> untangled, and it's where I've been stuck for almost a year.
> 
> Happy New Year,
> Janina
> 
> Anders Holmberg writes:
> > Hi!
> > Is this Debian or Arch you want to make running on the M2?
> > My Mac mini is a m1 but from what I know now there is only one linux that 
> > runs on Linux.
> >  Linux called Asahi but I guess you know more on Linux than I do.
> > Not sure if you can run this with speakup.
> > Bless.
> > /A
> > 
> > > 31 dec. 2023 kl. 04:12 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> > > :
> > > 
> > > Ah, bless you Anders! I suspect running anything virtualized on your
> > > Macbook Air, or on mine would be a miracle on its own anymore. I did
> > > have it working on my Air for quite a few years, though. The trick now
> > > is to get it working on my M2! That's the machine I expect to travel
> > > with for the forseeable future.
> > > 
> > > Janina
> > > 
> > > Anders Holmberg writes:
> > >> Hi!
> > >> Ok,so you can use parallels  for other operating systems than Windows.
> > >> I have a MacBook Air from 2015 I never use but it may come out handy for 
> > >> the linux thing.
> > >> I could give it to you if you like but then you need to come to Sweden 
> > >> or I need to go where you live.
> > >> Bless.
> > >> /A
> > >> 
> > >>> 29 dec. 2023 kl. 19:16 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> > >>> :
> > >>> 
> > >>> Let's say that I stumble along with the Mac Terminal whilst on the road
> > >>> with my Macbook. For me it's horribly clunky to do much of anything
> > >>> command line through that app, but it's not impossible in most
> > >>> situations.
> > >>> 
> > >>> This thread suggests to me that I should take another look at Parallels,
> > >>> though. I don't even need the Linux desktop, just the command line shell
> > >>> environment. This was working very well indeed on my old Mac Air. My
> > >>> problems started when I got my M2.
> > >>> 
> > >>> Janina
> > >>> 
> > >>> Anders Holmberg writes:
> > >>>> Hi!
> > >>>> Yes of corse.
> > >>>> I do understand that.
> > >>>> But do things work for you now?
> > >>>> Bless.
> > >>>> /A
> > >>>> 
> > >>>>> 29 dec. 2023 kl. 03:14 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> > >>>>> :
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> Not me. Not enough room in my suitcase, which is when I need the Mac
> > >>>>> hosted Linux. I've a perfectly good native Linux in my office. I want
> > >>>>> the Linux VM for traveling.
> > >>>>> 
> >

RE: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-01-02 Thread ilovecountrymusic483
Hi,

To get arch working just do the following at bootup.  When the boot menu pops 
up, down arrow once and press enter.  When arch starts speaking, just type 
archinstall and follow the prompts and you should be good.  HTH.

Matthew



Matthew Dyer
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-Original Message-
From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Monday, January 1, 2024 3:15 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VMware Fusion/Player

If I can get the Arch Linux installer to give me an accessible
installation, I'll go with Arch.

When I succeded with VMware on my 2013 era Macbook Air, I was unable to
get the Arch installer to talk, so went with Debian. That worked
wonderfully as long as the Air was my traveling laptop.

I've never used Asahi, but Speakup will work with any Linux. The issue
with Speakup is how hard you have to work to get Speakup to work. On
Arch and Debian it comes with the Linux kernel. On Fedora it does not,
so one would have to recompile the kernel. I'm not up to speed on how
one compiles kernels these days, and I don't want to spend my life
compiling them just to run Fedora, for instance.

At the moment I'm stuck licensing VMware 13. I can get as far as
inputting the license key. For some stupid reason the Fusion download
isn't giving me the free license, even though I clearly qualify for it
and it's the license I had on my Air. That little mess remains
untangled, and it's where I've been stuck for almost a year.

Happy New Year,
Janina

Anders Holmberg writes:
> Hi!
> Is this Debian or Arch you want to make running on the M2?
> My Mac mini is a m1 but from what I know now there is only one linux that 
> runs on Linux.
>  Linux called Asahi but I guess you know more on Linux than I do.
> Not sure if you can run this with speakup.
> Bless.
> /A
> 
> > 31 dec. 2023 kl. 04:12 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> > :
> > 
> > Ah, bless you Anders! I suspect running anything virtualized on your
> > Macbook Air, or on mine would be a miracle on its own anymore. I did
> > have it working on my Air for quite a few years, though. The trick now
> > is to get it working on my M2! That's the machine I expect to travel
> > with for the forseeable future.
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > Anders Holmberg writes:
> >> Hi!
> >> Ok,so you can use parallels  for other operating systems than Windows.
> >> I have a MacBook Air from 2015 I never use but it may come out handy for 
> >> the linux thing.
> >> I could give it to you if you like but then you need to come to Sweden or 
> >> I need to go where you live.
> >> Bless.
> >> /A
> >> 
> >>> 29 dec. 2023 kl. 19:16 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >>> :
> >>> 
> >>> Let's say that I stumble along with the Mac Terminal whilst on the road
> >>> with my Macbook. For me it's horribly clunky to do much of anything
> >>> command line through that app, but it's not impossible in most
> >>> situations.
> >>> 
> >>> This thread suggests to me that I should take another look at Parallels,
> >>> though. I don't even need the Linux desktop, just the command line shell
> >>> environment. This was working very well indeed on my old Mac Air. My
> >>> problems started when I got my M2.
> >>> 
> >>> Janina
> >>> 
> >>> Anders Holmberg writes:
> >>>> Hi!
> >>>> Yes of corse.
> >>>> I do understand that.
> >>>> But do things work for you now?
> >>>> Bless.
> >>>> /A
> >>>> 
> >>>>> 29 dec. 2023 kl. 03:14 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >>>>> :
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Not me. Not enough room in my suitcase, which is when I need the Mac
> >>>>> hosted Linux. I've a perfectly good native Linux in my office. I want
> >>>>> the Linux VM for traveling.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Anders Holmberg writes:
> >>>>>> Hi!
> >>>>>> I???d rather use an old laptop for such things.
> >>>>>> Even for linux.
> >>>>>> /A
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> On 26 Dec 2023, at 17:31, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >>>>>>>  wrote:
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get 
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> free license.

Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-01-01 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Thanks, Jonathan. I would be happy to sharpen my Terminal skills. I have
no doubt but what they could be improved regardless of whether Linux is
a more compelling cli environment or not.

I would appreciate your reposting.

With appreciation,
Janina

Jonathan Cohn writes:
> I posted recently about  screen reader for terminal windows on the Mac. Would 
> it be helpful for me to re-find that posting?
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> > On Dec 28, 2023, at 9:14 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Not me. Not enough room in my suitcase, which is when I need the Mac
> > hosted Linux. I've a perfectly good native Linux in my office. I want
> > the Linux VM for traveling.
> > 
> > 
> > Anders Holmberg writes:
> >> Hi!
> >> I???d rather use an old laptop for such things.
> >> Even for linux.
> >> /A
> >> 
> >>> On 26 Dec 2023, at 17:31, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the
> >>> free license.
> >>> 
> >>> It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside
> >>> from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that.
> >>> 
> >>> Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay
> >>> much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the
> >>> accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not
> >>> in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U.
> >>> 
> >>> So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn
> >>> and mend their ways?
> >>> 
> >>> Argh!
> >>> 
> >>> Janina
> >>> 
> >>> 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
>   Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a new
>  license key (free) for Player.
>  
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
>  -Helen Keller
>  My e-Mail:
>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>  
>  On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> > You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma.
> > 
> > I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's
> > another issue.
> > 
> > hth
> > Janina
> > 
> > Anders Holmberg writes:
> >> Hi!
> >> DOes it even work on an m1 Mac?
> >> Or do you still have the intel?
> >> /A
> >> 
> >>> 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> >>> :
> >>> 
> >>> Hello all,
> >>>  Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? 
> >>> This broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks.
> >>> 
> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> >>> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
> >>> -Helen Keller
> >>> My e-Mail:
> >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> >>> 
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-01-01 Thread Jonathan Cohn
I posted recently about  screen reader for terminal windows on the Mac. Would 
it be helpful for me to re-find that posting?

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Dec 28, 2023, at 9:14 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Not me. Not enough room in my suitcase, which is when I need the Mac
> hosted Linux. I've a perfectly good native Linux in my office. I want
> the Linux VM for traveling.
> 
> 
> Anders Holmberg writes:
>> Hi!
>> I???d rather use an old laptop for such things.
>> Even for linux.
>> /A
>> 
>>> On 26 Dec 2023, at 17:31, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the
>>> free license.
>>> 
>>> It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside
>>> from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that.
>>> 
>>> Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay
>>> much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the
>>> accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not
>>> in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U.
>>> 
>>> So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn
>>> and mend their ways?
>>> 
>>> Argh!
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
  Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a new
 license key (free) for Player.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
 -Helen Keller
 My e-Mail:
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma.
> 
> I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's
> another issue.
> 
> hth
> Janina
> 
> Anders Holmberg writes:
>> Hi!
>> DOes it even work on an m1 Mac?
>> Or do you still have the intel?
>> /A
>> 
>>> 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>>  Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? 
>>> This broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
>>> -Helen Keller
>>> My e-Mail:
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2024-01-01 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
If I can get the Arch Linux installer to give me an accessible
installation, I'll go with Arch.

When I succeded with VMware on my 2013 era Macbook Air, I was unable to
get the Arch installer to talk, so went with Debian. That worked
wonderfully as long as the Air was my traveling laptop.

I've never used Asahi, but Speakup will work with any Linux. The issue
with Speakup is how hard you have to work to get Speakup to work. On
Arch and Debian it comes with the Linux kernel. On Fedora it does not,
so one would have to recompile the kernel. I'm not up to speed on how
one compiles kernels these days, and I don't want to spend my life
compiling them just to run Fedora, for instance.

At the moment I'm stuck licensing VMware 13. I can get as far as
inputting the license key. For some stupid reason the Fusion download
isn't giving me the free license, even though I clearly qualify for it
and it's the license I had on my Air. That little mess remains
untangled, and it's where I've been stuck for almost a year.

Happy New Year,
Janina

Anders Holmberg writes:
> Hi!
> Is this Debian or Arch you want to make running on the M2?
> My Mac mini is a m1 but from what I know now there is only one linux that 
> runs on Linux.
>  Linux called Asahi but I guess you know more on Linux than I do.
> Not sure if you can run this with speakup.
> Bless.
> /A
> 
> > 31 dec. 2023 kl. 04:12 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> > :
> > 
> > Ah, bless you Anders! I suspect running anything virtualized on your
> > Macbook Air, or on mine would be a miracle on its own anymore. I did
> > have it working on my Air for quite a few years, though. The trick now
> > is to get it working on my M2! That's the machine I expect to travel
> > with for the forseeable future.
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > Anders Holmberg writes:
> >> Hi!
> >> Ok,so you can use parallels  for other operating systems than Windows.
> >> I have a MacBook Air from 2015 I never use but it may come out handy for 
> >> the linux thing.
> >> I could give it to you if you like but then you need to come to Sweden or 
> >> I need to go where you live.
> >> Bless.
> >> /A
> >> 
> >>> 29 dec. 2023 kl. 19:16 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >>> :
> >>> 
> >>> Let's say that I stumble along with the Mac Terminal whilst on the road
> >>> with my Macbook. For me it's horribly clunky to do much of anything
> >>> command line through that app, but it's not impossible in most
> >>> situations.
> >>> 
> >>> This thread suggests to me that I should take another look at Parallels,
> >>> though. I don't even need the Linux desktop, just the command line shell
> >>> environment. This was working very well indeed on my old Mac Air. My
> >>> problems started when I got my M2.
> >>> 
> >>> Janina
> >>> 
> >>> Anders Holmberg writes:
>  Hi!
>  Yes of corse.
>  I do understand that.
>  But do things work for you now?
>  Bless.
>  /A
>  
> > 29 dec. 2023 kl. 03:14 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> > :
> > 
> > Not me. Not enough room in my suitcase, which is when I need the Mac
> > hosted Linux. I've a perfectly good native Linux in my office. I want
> > the Linux VM for traveling.
> > 
> > 
> > Anders Holmberg writes:
> >> Hi!
> >> I???d rather use an old laptop for such things.
> >> Even for linux.
> >> /A
> >> 
> >>> On 26 Dec 2023, at 17:31, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get 
> >>> the
> >>> free license.
> >>> 
> >>> It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside
> >>> from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug 
> >>> that.
> >>> 
> >>> Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to 
> >>> pay
> >>> much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the
> >>> accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly 
> >>> not
> >>> in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U.
> >>> 
> >>> So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn
> >>> and mend their ways?
> >>> 
> >>> Argh!
> >>> 
> >>> Janina
> >>> 
> >>> 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
>  Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a 
>  new
>  license key (free) for Player.
>  
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
>  -Helen Keller
>  My e-Mail:
>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>  
>  On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> > You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma.
> > 
> > I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but 
> > that's
> > another issue.
> > 
> 

Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2023-12-31 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Is this Debian or Arch you want to make running on the M2?
My Mac mini is a m1 but from what I know now there is only one linux that runs 
on Linux.
 Linux called Asahi but I guess you know more on Linux than I do.
Not sure if you can run this with speakup.
Bless.
/A

> 31 dec. 2023 kl. 04:12 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Ah, bless you Anders! I suspect running anything virtualized on your
> Macbook Air, or on mine would be a miracle on its own anymore. I did
> have it working on my Air for quite a few years, though. The trick now
> is to get it working on my M2! That's the machine I expect to travel
> with for the forseeable future.
> 
> Janina
> 
> Anders Holmberg writes:
>> Hi!
>> Ok,so you can use parallels  for other operating systems than Windows.
>> I have a MacBook Air from 2015 I never use but it may come out handy for the 
>> linux thing.
>> I could give it to you if you like but then you need to come to Sweden or I 
>> need to go where you live.
>> Bless.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 29 dec. 2023 kl. 19:16 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Let's say that I stumble along with the Mac Terminal whilst on the road
>>> with my Macbook. For me it's horribly clunky to do much of anything
>>> command line through that app, but it's not impossible in most
>>> situations.
>>> 
>>> This thread suggests to me that I should take another look at Parallels,
>>> though. I don't even need the Linux desktop, just the command line shell
>>> environment. This was working very well indeed on my old Mac Air. My
>>> problems started when I got my M2.
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> Anders Holmberg writes:
 Hi!
 Yes of corse.
 I do understand that.
 But do things work for you now?
 Bless.
 /A
 
> 29 dec. 2023 kl. 03:14 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Not me. Not enough room in my suitcase, which is when I need the Mac
> hosted Linux. I've a perfectly good native Linux in my office. I want
> the Linux VM for traveling.
> 
> 
> Anders Holmberg writes:
>> Hi!
>> I???d rather use an old laptop for such things.
>> Even for linux.
>> /A
>> 
>>> On 26 Dec 2023, at 17:31, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the
>>> free license.
>>> 
>>> It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside
>>> from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that.
>>> 
>>> Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay
>>> much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the
>>> accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not
>>> in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U.
>>> 
>>> So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn
>>> and mend their ways?
>>> 
>>> Argh!
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
 Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a new
 license key (free) for Player.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
 -Helen Keller
 My e-Mail:
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma.
> 
> I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's
> another issue.
> 
> hth
> Janina
> 
> Anders Holmberg writes:
>> Hi!
>> DOes it even work on an m1 Mac?
>> Or do you still have the intel?
>> /A
>> 
>>> 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? 
>>> This broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
>>> -Helen Keller
>>> My e-Mail:
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>> Visionaries list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this 
>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please 
>>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on 
>>> the list itself.
>>> 
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach 
>>> mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can 
>>> reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>> 
>>> The 

Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2023-12-30 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Ok,so you can use parallels  for other operating systems than Windows.
I have a MacBook Air from 2015 I never use but it may come out handy for the 
linux thing.
I could give it to you if you like but then you need to come to Sweden or I 
need to go where you live.
Bless.
/A

> 29 dec. 2023 kl. 19:16 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Let's say that I stumble along with the Mac Terminal whilst on the road
> with my Macbook. For me it's horribly clunky to do much of anything
> command line through that app, but it's not impossible in most
> situations.
> 
> This thread suggests to me that I should take another look at Parallels,
> though. I don't even need the Linux desktop, just the command line shell
> environment. This was working very well indeed on my old Mac Air. My
> problems started when I got my M2.
> 
> Janina
> 
> Anders Holmberg writes:
>> Hi!
>> Yes of corse.
>> I do understand that.
>> But do things work for you now?
>> Bless.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 29 dec. 2023 kl. 03:14 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Not me. Not enough room in my suitcase, which is when I need the Mac
>>> hosted Linux. I've a perfectly good native Linux in my office. I want
>>> the Linux VM for traveling.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anders Holmberg writes:
 Hi!
 I???d rather use an old laptop for such things.
 Even for linux.
 /A
 
> On 26 Dec 2023, at 17:31, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the
> free license.
> 
> It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside
> from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that.
> 
> Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay
> much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the
> accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not
> in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U.
> 
> So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn
> and mend their ways?
> 
> Argh!
> 
> Janina
> 
> 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
>> Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a new
>> license key (free) for Player.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
>> -Helen Keller
>> My e-Mail:
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma.
>>> 
>>> I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's
>>> another issue.
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> Anders Holmberg writes:
 Hi!
 DOes it even work on an m1 Mac?
 Or do you still have the intel?
 /A
 
> 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hello all,
> Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? 
> This broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks.
> 
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> -Helen Keller
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2023-12-29 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Let's say that I stumble along with the Mac Terminal whilst on the road
with my Macbook. For me it's horribly clunky to do much of anything
command line through that app, but it's not impossible in most
situations.

This thread suggests to me that I should take another look at Parallels,
though. I don't even need the Linux desktop, just the command line shell
environment. This was working very well indeed on my old Mac Air. My
problems started when I got my M2.

Janina

Anders Holmberg writes:
> Hi!
> Yes of corse.
> I do understand that.
> But do things work for you now?
> Bless.
> /A
> 
> > 29 dec. 2023 kl. 03:14 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> > :
> > 
> > Not me. Not enough room in my suitcase, which is when I need the Mac
> > hosted Linux. I've a perfectly good native Linux in my office. I want
> > the Linux VM for traveling.
> > 
> > 
> > Anders Holmberg writes:
> >> Hi!
> >> I???d rather use an old laptop for such things.
> >> Even for linux.
> >> /A
> >> 
> >>> On 26 Dec 2023, at 17:31, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the
> >>> free license.
> >>> 
> >>> It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside
> >>> from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that.
> >>> 
> >>> Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay
> >>> much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the
> >>> accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not
> >>> in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U.
> >>> 
> >>> So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn
> >>> and mend their ways?
> >>> 
> >>> Argh!
> >>> 
> >>> Janina
> >>> 
> >>> 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
>   Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a new
>  license key (free) for Player.
>  
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
>  -Helen Keller
>  My e-Mail:
>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>  
>  On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> > You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma.
> > 
> > I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's
> > another issue.
> > 
> > hth
> > Janina
> > 
> > Anders Holmberg writes:
> >> Hi!
> >> DOes it even work on an m1 Mac?
> >> Or do you still have the intel?
> >> /A
> >> 
> >>> 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> >>> :
> >>> 
> >>> Hello all,
> >>>  Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? 
> >>> This broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks.
> >>> 
> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> >>> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
> >>> -Helen Keller
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> >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2023-12-29 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Yes of corse.
I do understand that.
But do things work for you now?
Bless.
/A

> 29 dec. 2023 kl. 03:14 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Not me. Not enough room in my suitcase, which is when I need the Mac
> hosted Linux. I've a perfectly good native Linux in my office. I want
> the Linux VM for traveling.
> 
> 
> Anders Holmberg writes:
>> Hi!
>> I???d rather use an old laptop for such things.
>> Even for linux.
>> /A
>> 
>>> On 26 Dec 2023, at 17:31, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the
>>> free license.
>>> 
>>> It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside
>>> from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that.
>>> 
>>> Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay
>>> much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the
>>> accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not
>>> in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U.
>>> 
>>> So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn
>>> and mend their ways?
>>> 
>>> Argh!
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
  Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a new
 license key (free) for Player.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
 -Helen Keller
 My e-Mail:
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma.
> 
> I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's
> another issue.
> 
> hth
> Janina
> 
> Anders Holmberg writes:
>> Hi!
>> DOes it even work on an m1 Mac?
>> Or do you still have the intel?
>> /A
>> 
>>> 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>>  Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? 
>>> This broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
>>> -Helen Keller
>>> My e-Mail:
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2023-12-28 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Not me. Not enough room in my suitcase, which is when I need the Mac
hosted Linux. I've a perfectly good native Linux in my office. I want
the Linux VM for traveling.


Anders Holmberg writes:
> Hi!
> I???d rather use an old laptop for such things.
> Even for linux.
> /A
> 
> > On 26 Dec 2023, at 17:31, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the
> > free license.
> > 
> > It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside
> > from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that.
> > 
> > Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay
> > much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the
> > accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not
> > in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U.
> > 
> > So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn
> > and mend their ways?
> > 
> > Argh!
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
> >>   Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a new
> >> license key (free) for Player.
> >> 
> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> >> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
> >> -Helen Keller
> >> My e-Mail:
> >> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> >> 
> >> On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> >>> You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma.
> >>> 
> >>> I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's
> >>> another issue.
> >>> 
> >>> hth
> >>> Janina
> >>> 
> >>> Anders Holmberg writes:
>  Hi!
>  DOes it even work on an m1 Mac?
>  Or do you still have the intel?
>  /A
>  
> > 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> > :
> > 
> > Hello all,
> >   Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? 
> > This broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks.
> > 
> > From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
> > -Helen Keller
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2023-12-27 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
I’d rather use an old laptop for such things.
Even for linux.
/A

> On 26 Dec 2023, at 17:31, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the
> free license.
> 
> It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside
> from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that.
> 
> Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay
> much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the
> accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not
> in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U.
> 
> So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn
> and mend their ways?
> 
> Argh!
> 
> Janina
> 
> 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>   Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a new
>> license key (free) for Player.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
>> -Helen Keller
>> My e-Mail:
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma.
>>> 
>>> I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's
>>> another issue.
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> Anders Holmberg writes:
 Hi!
 DOes it even work on an m1 Mac?
 Or do you still have the intel?
 /A
 
> 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hello all,
>   Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? This 
> broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
> -Helen Keller
> My e-Mail:
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2023-12-26 Thread 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
I can’t find a source for the news that Broadcom fired accessibility team 
employees from VMware, although of course they did fire many employees, 
generally.

Anyway, I was rather annoyed to find that my Christmas wouldn’t go to plan 
because of the latest issues with Sonoma and Fusion. Something of a blow to we 
blind Mac-using folk, I think, and not one with a very good workaround. Keep 
piling on the pressure, as usual. Apple, in fact, rather than VMware, seem to 
be the culprit here, because of changes Apple made in AppKit, which breaks 
Fusion due to a safety check imposed on setuid binaries. They’re working on it 
though, apparently.

Cheers,
Sabahattin

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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2023-12-26 Thread Maurice A. Mines
Hi E.t. are you  DeafBlind? To. Be  fair  I  am  not  having any issues in my  
Parallels setup whin I  use  usb braille. Bare in  mind that  iam using Dragon 
15 Pro Stand alone. I also  use J-Say v 22 on  this  VM and  thanks to  reading 
this  about Brodcom firing all  accessibility staff  will  insure that  I  will 
never com back  to  Vm Ware, at  any price.

Maurice  Mines.

>  


> On Dec 26, 2023, at 17:18, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   If that is true, then I will stop using Windows. It runs fine on Monterey 
> so will keep that for backup.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
> -Helen Keller
> My e-Mail:
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 12/26/2023 8:31 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the
>> free license.
>> It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside
>> from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that.
>> Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay
>> much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the
>> accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not
>> in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U.
>> So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn
>> and mend their ways?
>> Argh!
>> Janina
>> 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>>Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a new
>>> license key (free) for Player.
>>> 
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>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma.
 
 I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's
 another issue.
 
 hth
 Janina
 
 Anders Holmberg writes:
> Hi!
> DOes it even work on an m1 Mac?
> Or do you still have the intel?
> /A
> 
>> 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2023-12-26 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   If that is true, then I will stop using Windows. It runs fine on 
Monterey so will keep that for backup.


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On 12/26/2023 8:31 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the
free license.

It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside
from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that.

Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay
much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the
accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not
in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U.

So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn
and mend their ways?

Argh!

Janina

'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:

Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a new
license key (free) for Player.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
  -Helen Keller
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma.

I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's
another issue.

hth
Janina

Anders Holmberg writes:

Hi!
DOes it even work on an m1 Mac?
Or do you still have the intel?
/A


17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
:

Hello all,
Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? This 
broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks.

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RE: VMware Fusion/Player

2023-12-26 Thread kellford1967
Wow,

I hadn't heard they fired all the accessibility staff. That is truly 
unfortunate. There was a great deal of progress on making the clients 
themselves accessible, obviously far more than Parallels in my opinion.

Kelly



-Original Message-
From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2023 10:32 AM
To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: VMware Fusion/Player

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the free 
license.

It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside from any 
accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that.

Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay much 
attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the accessibility 
people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not in tune with how to 
sell in the U.S. and the E.U.

So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn and mend 
their ways?

Argh!

Janina

'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
>Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a 
> new license key (free) for Player.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
>  -Helen Keller
> My e-Mail:
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> > You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma.
> > 
> > I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but 
> > that's another issue.
> > 
> > hth
> > Janina
> > 
> > Anders Holmberg writes:
> > > Hi!
> > > DOes it even work on an m1 Mac?
> > > Or do you still have the intel?
> > > /A
> > > 
> > > > 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> > > > :
> > > > 
> > > > Hello all,
> > > >Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? 
> > > > This broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks.
> > > > 
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> > > > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2023-12-26 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the
free license.

It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside
from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that.

Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay
much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the
accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not
in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U.

So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn
and mend their ways?

Argh!

Janina

'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
>Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a new
> license key (free) for Player.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
>  -Helen Keller
> My e-Mail:
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> > You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma.
> > 
> > I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's
> > another issue.
> > 
> > hth
> > Janina
> > 
> > Anders Holmberg writes:
> > > Hi!
> > > DOes it even work on an m1 Mac?
> > > Or do you still have the intel?
> > > /A
> > > 
> > > > 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> > > > :
> > > > 
> > > > Hello all,
> > > >Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? 
> > > > This broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks.
> > > > 
> > > >  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> > > > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2023-12-22 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a 
new license key (free) for Player.


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On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma.

I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's
another issue.

hth
Janina

Anders Holmberg writes:

Hi!
DOes it even work on an m1 Mac?
Or do you still have the intel?
/A


17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
:

Hello all,
   Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? This 
broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks.

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-Helen Keller
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2023-12-22 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma.

I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's
another issue.

hth
Janina

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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2023-12-17 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
DOes it even work on an m1 Mac?
Or do you still have the intel?
/A

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> Hello all,
>   Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? This 
> broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks.
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VMware Fusion/Player

2023-12-16 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries

Hello all,
   Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? 
This broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks.


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Big VMware fusion problems. Can anyone help with this issue

2023-07-24 Thread Maurice A. Mines
Good evening everyone, here's what's happening. I have a VMware bundle. Every 
time I run it lately I get the error message can't find/user/username 
mine/Windows 11 Pro. Dot ISO. What's going on here Mark the other issue is my 
older virtual machine can't be used because it was done on a different 
iteration of my Mac meaning the keychain that it was done under can't be used 
to recover the password. So that's not working. Paragraph I guess my running 
question is should I take the time to go back and rebuild my entire virtual 
machine?

Continuing to prepare for the new machine. I hope everyone is well? Please be 
aware that I'm dictating this to my phone. So here's hoping that it's 
understandable?

PS does the beta users group still exist? Meaning the email list? Starting my 
summer of beta testing. So far it's just my phone and the computer. After the 
Watch fiasco a couple of years ago, I'm not willing to put my watch in beta 
unless I find out that the beta is OK and they didn't take speech out for beta 
test purposes.

Sent from my iPhone. 
Email, mmi...@mauricemines.org
  text number 661-868-9647.
Fax no 661-449-3746.


President, National Federation of the blind Deafblind division.
Vice President national Federation of the blind of California Bakersfield 
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Re: VMware Fusion under Ventura

2023-04-19 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   How did we get from VMware Fusion to Parallels? I specifically asked 
about Fusion. Are you i fact running Fusion?


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On 4/19/2023 12:47 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Sorry, I was confusing Fusion with Parallels.  I have heard that Parallels is 
supposed to be made accessible soon.  But I’m not going to be the guinea pig to 
try it out.


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   Come again?!

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You’re a brave man!

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   If anyone is running Fusion, I've a question. Please reply to me off list. 
Thanks.

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Re: VMware Fusion under Ventura

2023-04-19 Thread 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries
Sorry, I was confusing Fusion with Parallels.  I have heard that Parallels is 
supposed to be made accessible soon.  But I’m not going to be the guinea pig to 
try it out.

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>> You’re a brave man!
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>>>   If anyone is running Fusion, I've a question. Please reply to me off 
>>> list. Thanks.
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Re: VMware Fusion under Ventura

2023-04-18 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries

   Come again?!

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On 4/18/2023 6:14 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries wrote:

You’re a brave man!




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   If anyone is running Fusion, I've a question. Please reply to me off list. 
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Re: VMware Fusion under Ventura

2023-04-18 Thread 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries
You’re a brave man!



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VMware Fusion under Ventura

2023-04-18 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   If anyone is running Fusion, I've a question. Please reply to me off 
list. Thanks.


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Re: VMware Fusion Vs Virtualbox.

2022-12-15 Thread mr.robertcole via MacVisionaries
Hi,
1 Do you have a free license?
2 Did you download a Windows 10 ISO?
If yes to both questions, Choose new from the file menu to create a new VM.


> On Dec 15, 2022, at 10:52 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> Ok, I think I’ve somewhat managed to get the installation process started, 
> after some playing around and having to allow my system settings access to my 
> accessibility settings and turning the switch on to VMware Fusion, which I 
> had no idea about.  So I’ve allowed VMware access to everything it’s popped 
> up so far, and now I’m at some weird window that’s saying something about 
> “enter unity” which is dimmed, but when I try to move around, I get the 
> message “VMware has no windows.” Can someone please explain this?
> 
>> On Dec 8, 2022, at 12:47 PM, Sheri Byrne  wrote:
>> 
>> Additionally, as a VMware accessibility team employee if you have issues 
>> I’ll make sure you get help :)
>> 
>> Sheri
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 8, 2022, at 9:41 AM, Maurice A. mines  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi NVDA works  vary  well  under  Vm Ware Fusion.  I don’t  think that  
>>> Virtual Box  is  usable by  a blind  user.
>>> 
>>> Maurice Mines.
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 8, 2022, at 16:32, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Jessica,
>>>> I'm replying to you on list so someone else can assist with how to deal 
>>>> with NVDA.  Good luck!
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>>>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>>>> --John F. Kennedy
>>>> My e-Mail:
>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>> 
>>>>> On 12/8/2022 8:12 AM, Jessica Moss wrote:
>>>>> Ok, I’m sure everyone is probably tired of hearing about this, but wanted 
>>>>> to give a heads-up.  I managed to finally find a direct link to download 
>>>>> the 64-bit ISO file from Microsoft, and think I managed to locate the 
>>>>> right file regarding VMware Fusion, considering at the moment, I’m just 
>>>>> wanting to run everything in trial mode just to see how it does.  I also 
>>>>> have downloaded NVDA and just have everything just sitting in my 
>>>>> downloads folder.
>>>>> So at this point, my question is, after I start the installation process 
>>>>> and I eventually get to the point where there’s no longer speech, how do 
>>>>> I go about installing NVDA, or would I be better off launching team 
>>>>> viewer, and having an Aira agent help me do the remainder?
>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2022, at 6:29 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Jessica,
>>>>>> Maybe I should first suggest another option. I took a quick look at 
>>>>>> Windows 11 on Amazon. One option is to buy for $139 and download then 
>>>>>> you can out it on a thumb drive though I don't know how big it is. Or, 
>>>>>> buy a PC. I saw an HP model for $189. If you want to look into getting a 
>>>>>> PC, there are other brands too like Dell.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For NVDA here is the web site.  It will give you the download button 
>>>>>> with the "no donation" button already selected.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://www.nvaccess.org/download/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here is the VMware site.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/downloads/info/slug/desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_fusion/13_0
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> VMware Fusion Player 13 is the latest. If you choose to go this route 
>>>>>> and not a PC, you can install this using Voiceover. You can run it and 
>>>>>> look at its settings etc. Once you get a Windows ISO (image file) you 
>>>>>> can install it into Fusion.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You might want some sihted help after this to put the NVDA file on the 
>>>>>> Windows desktop. When you clock it, it will come up talking.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I hope this helps!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>>>>>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>>>>>> --John F. Kennedy
>>>>>> My e-Mail:
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Re: help with registering the community addition of VMware fusion?

2022-12-15 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries

Maurice,
   If you got the Player version, its the right one. The problem I 
suspect is the web page where one gets the free license is not working 
correctly. When I upgraded ti version 13, the registration dialog came 
up and I clicked the last link I think it was and got  the web page. 
Could not do anything more. So I restored back to version 12. I didn't 
encounter a captcha.


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On 12/15/2022 10:24 AM, maurice mines wrote:
My subject line pretty much says it all, unfortunately because of 
accessibility issues I downloaded the wrong version of VMware fusion. 
Now that I'm stuck in the middle of the evaluation of this wrong version 
it appears that even though Aira has tried to assist me with this 
situation it appears that this is beyond their level of understanding my 
instructions.



While attempting to register and obtain a VMware player relicense. It 
says that my login information is not valid. I can certainly according 
to the website reset my password. But I'm stopped cold by a captcha! 
This is absolutely awful for those of us were blind and especially bad 
for those of us were deaf blind. The accessibility person or this 
company apparently is on this list. Can that person please contact me 
off list to find a solution to this issue. Meaning I'd like to use the 
community addition of VMware fusion, called VMware player. But it 
appears I'm going to need some help with obtaining that community use 
license key.



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Sincerely,




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help with registering the community addition of VMware fusion?

2022-12-15 Thread maurice mines
My subject line pretty much says it all, unfortunately because of 
accessibility issues I downloaded the wrong version of VMware fusion. 
Now that I'm stuck in the middle of the evaluation of this wrong version 
it appears that even though Aira has tried to assist me with this 
situation it appears that this is beyond their level of understanding my 
instructions.



While attempting to register and obtain a VMware player relicense. It 
says that my login information is not valid. I can certainly according 
to the website reset my password. But I'm stopped cold by a captcha! 
This is absolutely awful for those of us were blind and especially bad 
for those of us were deaf blind. The accessibility person or this 
company apparently is on this list. Can that person please contact me 
off list to find a solution to this issue. Meaning I'd like to use the 
community addition of VMware fusion, called VMware player. But it 
appears I'm going to need some help with obtaining that community use 
license key.



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Re: VMware Fusion Vs Virtualbox.

2022-12-15 Thread Jessica Moss
Ok, I think I’ve somewhat managed to get the installation process started, 
after some playing around and having to allow my system settings access to my 
accessibility settings and turning the switch on to VMware Fusion, which I had 
no idea about.  So I’ve allowed VMware access to everything it’s popped up so 
far, and now I’m at some weird window that’s saying something about “enter 
unity” which is dimmed, but when I try to move around, I get the message 
“VMware has no windows.” Can someone please explain this?

> On Dec 8, 2022, at 12:47 PM, Sheri Byrne  wrote:
> 
> Additionally, as a VMware accessibility team employee if you have issues I’ll 
> make sure you get help :)
> 
> Sheri
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 8, 2022, at 9:41 AM, Maurice A. mines  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi NVDA works  vary  well  under  Vm Ware Fusion.  I don’t  think that  
>> Virtual Box  is  usable by  a blind  user.
>> 
>> Maurice Mines.
>> 
>>> On Dec 8, 2022, at 16:32, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jessica,
>>> I'm replying to you on list so someone else can assist with how to deal 
>>> with NVDA.  Good luck!
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>>> --John F. Kennedy
>>> My e-Mail:
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>>> On 12/8/2022 8:12 AM, Jessica Moss wrote:
>>>> Ok, I’m sure everyone is probably tired of hearing about this, but wanted 
>>>> to give a heads-up.  I managed to finally find a direct link to download 
>>>> the 64-bit ISO file from Microsoft, and think I managed to locate the 
>>>> right file regarding VMware Fusion, considering at the moment, I’m just 
>>>> wanting to run everything in trial mode just to see how it does.  I also 
>>>> have downloaded NVDA and just have everything just sitting in my downloads 
>>>> folder.
>>>> So at this point, my question is, after I start the installation process 
>>>> and I eventually get to the point where there’s no longer speech, how do I 
>>>> go about installing NVDA, or would I be better off launching team viewer, 
>>>> and having an Aira agent help me do the remainder?
>>>>> On Dec 5, 2022, at 6:29 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Jessica,
>>>>> Maybe I should first suggest another option. I took a quick look at 
>>>>> Windows 11 on Amazon. One option is to buy for $139 and download then you 
>>>>> can out it on a thumb drive though I don't know how big it is. Or, buy a 
>>>>> PC. I saw an HP model for $189. If you want to look into getting a PC, 
>>>>> there are other brands too like Dell.
>>>>> 
>>>>> For NVDA here is the web site.  It will give you the download button with 
>>>>> the "no donation" button already selected.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.nvaccess.org/download/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here is the VMware site.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/downloads/info/slug/desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_fusion/13_0
>>>>> 
>>>>> VMware Fusion Player 13 is the latest. If you choose to go this route and 
>>>>> not a PC, you can install this using Voiceover. You can run it and look 
>>>>> at its settings etc. Once you get a Windows ISO (image file) you can 
>>>>> install it into Fusion.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You might want some sihted help after this to put the NVDA file on the 
>>>>> Windows desktop. When you clock it, it will come up talking.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I hope this helps!
>>>>> 
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>>>>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>>>>> --John F. Kennedy
>>>>> My e-Mail:
>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 12/5/2022 12:36 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:
>>>>>> I will be using NVDA, due to the fact that I unfortunately can’t afford 
>>>>>> a license for Jaws, and using it in 40-minute mode too attempt to do 
>>>>>> this training material isn’t going to work.
>>>>>> Can you please send me a direct link to download these ISO files?   I’ve 
>>>>>> attempted to do several searches to obtain them, a

Re: VMware Fusion Vs Virtualbox.

2022-12-08 Thread Jessica Moss
Thank you so much, can you please contact me off list?  I think I’ve got 
everything I need, just want to make sure I get everything up and running 
smoothly, and have the correct files and the like.

> On Dec 8, 2022, at 12:47 PM, Sheri Byrne  wrote:
> 
> Additionally, as a VMware accessibility team employee if you have issues I’ll 
> make sure you get help :)
> 
> Sheri
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 8, 2022, at 9:41 AM, Maurice A. mines  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi NVDA works  vary  well  under  Vm Ware Fusion.  I don’t  think that  
>> Virtual Box  is  usable by  a blind  user.
>> 
>> Maurice Mines.
>> 
>>> On Dec 8, 2022, at 16:32, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jessica,
>>> I'm replying to you on list so someone else can assist with how to deal 
>>> with NVDA.  Good luck!
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>>> --John F. Kennedy
>>> My e-Mail:
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>>> On 12/8/2022 8:12 AM, Jessica Moss wrote:
>>>> Ok, I’m sure everyone is probably tired of hearing about this, but wanted 
>>>> to give a heads-up.  I managed to finally find a direct link to download 
>>>> the 64-bit ISO file from Microsoft, and think I managed to locate the 
>>>> right file regarding VMware Fusion, considering at the moment, I’m just 
>>>> wanting to run everything in trial mode just to see how it does.  I also 
>>>> have downloaded NVDA and just have everything just sitting in my downloads 
>>>> folder.
>>>> So at this point, my question is, after I start the installation process 
>>>> and I eventually get to the point where there’s no longer speech, how do I 
>>>> go about installing NVDA, or would I be better off launching team viewer, 
>>>> and having an Aira agent help me do the remainder?
>>>>> On Dec 5, 2022, at 6:29 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Jessica,
>>>>> Maybe I should first suggest another option. I took a quick look at 
>>>>> Windows 11 on Amazon. One option is to buy for $139 and download then you 
>>>>> can out it on a thumb drive though I don't know how big it is. Or, buy a 
>>>>> PC. I saw an HP model for $189. If you want to look into getting a PC, 
>>>>> there are other brands too like Dell.
>>>>> 
>>>>> For NVDA here is the web site.  It will give you the download button with 
>>>>> the "no donation" button already selected.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.nvaccess.org/download/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here is the VMware site.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/downloads/info/slug/desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_fusion/13_0
>>>>> 
>>>>> VMware Fusion Player 13 is the latest. If you choose to go this route and 
>>>>> not a PC, you can install this using Voiceover. You can run it and look 
>>>>> at its settings etc. Once you get a Windows ISO (image file) you can 
>>>>> install it into Fusion.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You might want some sihted help after this to put the NVDA file on the 
>>>>> Windows desktop. When you clock it, it will come up talking.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I hope this helps!
>>>>> 
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>>>>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>>>>> --John F. Kennedy
>>>>> My e-Mail:
>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 12/5/2022 12:36 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:
>>>>>> I will be using NVDA, due to the fact that I unfortunately can’t afford 
>>>>>> a license for Jaws, and using it in 40-minute mode too attempt to do 
>>>>>> this training material isn’t going to work.
>>>>>> Can you please send me a direct link to download these ISO files?   I’ve 
>>>>>> attempted to do several searches to obtain them, and found a site that I 
>>>>>> thought led to where two find them along with instructions, but is 
>>>>>> taking me in circles when it comes to downloading then.
>>>>>> The site I ended up at was something called Minitool.com 
>>>>>> <http://

Re: VMware Fusion Vs Virtualbox.

2022-12-08 Thread Sheri Byrne
Additionally, as a VMware accessibility team employee if you have issues I’ll 
make sure you get help :)

Sheri

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 8, 2022, at 9:41 AM, Maurice A. mines  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi NVDA works  vary  well  under  Vm Ware Fusion.  I don’t  think that  
> Virtual Box  is  usable by  a blind  user.
> 
> Maurice Mines.
> 
>> On Dec 8, 2022, at 16:32, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Jessica,
>>  I'm replying to you on list so someone else can assist with how to deal 
>> with NVDA.  Good luck!
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>> --John F. Kennedy
>> My e-Mail:
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On 12/8/2022 8:12 AM, Jessica Moss wrote:
>>> Ok, I’m sure everyone is probably tired of hearing about this, but wanted 
>>> to give a heads-up.  I managed to finally find a direct link to download 
>>> the 64-bit ISO file from Microsoft, and think I managed to locate the right 
>>> file regarding VMware Fusion, considering at the moment, I’m just wanting 
>>> to run everything in trial mode just to see how it does.  I also have 
>>> downloaded NVDA and just have everything just sitting in my downloads 
>>> folder.
>>>  So at this point, my question is, after I start the installation process 
>>> and I eventually get to the point where there’s no longer speech, how do I 
>>> go about installing NVDA, or would I be better off launching team viewer, 
>>> and having an Aira agent help me do the remainder?
>>>> On Dec 5, 2022, at 6:29 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> -Jessica,
>>>>  Maybe I should first suggest another option. I took a quick look at 
>>>> Windows 11 on Amazon. One option is to buy for $139 and download then you 
>>>> can out it on a thumb drive though I don't know how big it is. Or, buy a 
>>>> PC. I saw an HP model for $189. If you want to look into getting a PC, 
>>>> there are other brands too like Dell.
>>>> 
>>>>  For NVDA here is the web site.  It will give you the download button with 
>>>> the "no donation" button already selected.
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.nvaccess.org/download/
>>>> 
>>>>  Here is the VMware site.
>>>> 
>>>> https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/downloads/info/slug/desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_fusion/13_0
>>>> 
>>>>  VMware Fusion Player 13 is the latest. If you choose to go this route and 
>>>> not a PC, you can install this using Voiceover. You can run it and look at 
>>>> its settings etc. Once you get a Windows ISO (image file) you can install 
>>>> it into Fusion.
>>>> 
>>>>  You might want some sihted help after this to put the NVDA file on the 
>>>> Windows desktop. When you clock it, it will come up talking.
>>>> 
>>>>  I hope this helps!
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>>>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>>>> --John F. Kennedy
>>>> My e-Mail:
>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>> 
>>>> On 12/5/2022 12:36 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:
>>>>> I will be using NVDA, due to the fact that I unfortunately can’t afford a 
>>>>> license for Jaws, and using it in 40-minute mode too attempt to do this 
>>>>> training material isn’t going to work.
>>>>>  Can you please send me a direct link to download these ISO files?   I’ve 
>>>>> attempted to do several searches to obtain them, and found a site that I 
>>>>> thought led to where two find them along with instructions, but is taking 
>>>>> me in circles when it comes to downloading then.
>>>>> The site I ended up at was something called Minitool.com 
>>>>> <http://Minitool.com>, that supposedly redirects you to where to download 
>>>>> them, but just seems to take me to more news articles.
>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2022, at 12:49 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jessica,
>>>>>>  A quick note. If you want to use NVDA which is free, give me some time 
>>>>>> to try something. In the meantime, ALL the VMware setup can be done with 
>>>>>> Voiceover. So if you go ahead and get a Windows ISO, you're on your way.
>>>>>> 
>>>&

Re: VMware Fusion Vs Virtualbox.

2022-12-08 Thread Maurice A. mines
Hi NVDA works  vary  well  under  Vm Ware Fusion.  I don’t  think that  Virtual 
Box  is  usable by  a blind  user.

Maurice Mines.

> On Dec 8, 2022, at 16:32, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Jessica,
>   I'm replying to you on list so someone else can assist with how to deal 
> with NVDA.  Good luck!
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
> will make violent revolution inevitable."
> --John F. Kennedy
> My e-Mail:
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 12/8/2022 8:12 AM, Jessica Moss wrote:
>> Ok, I’m sure everyone is probably tired of hearing about this, but wanted to 
>> give a heads-up.  I managed to finally find a direct link to download the 
>> 64-bit ISO file from Microsoft, and think I managed to locate the right file 
>> regarding VMware Fusion, considering at the moment, I’m just wanting to run 
>> everything in trial mode just to see how it does.  I also have downloaded 
>> NVDA and just have everything just sitting in my downloads folder.
>>   So at this point, my question is, after I start the installation process 
>> and I eventually get to the point where there’s no longer speech, how do I 
>> go about installing NVDA, or would I be better off launching team viewer, 
>> and having an Aira agent help me do the remainder?
>>> On Dec 5, 2022, at 6:29 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> -Jessica,
>>>   Maybe I should first suggest another option. I took a quick look at 
>>> Windows 11 on Amazon. One option is to buy for $139 and download then you 
>>> can out it on a thumb drive though I don't know how big it is. Or, buy a 
>>> PC. I saw an HP model for $189. If you want to look into getting a PC, 
>>> there are other brands too like Dell.
>>> 
>>>   For NVDA here is the web site.  It will give you the download button with 
>>> the "no donation" button already selected.
>>> 
>>> https://www.nvaccess.org/download/
>>> 
>>>   Here is the VMware site.
>>> 
>>> https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/downloads/info/slug/desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_fusion/13_0
>>> 
>>>   VMware Fusion Player 13 is the latest. If you choose to go this route and 
>>> not a PC, you can install this using Voiceover. You can run it and look at 
>>> its settings etc. Once you get a Windows ISO (image file) you can install 
>>> it into Fusion.
>>> 
>>>   You might want some sihted help after this to put the NVDA file on the 
>>> Windows desktop. When you clock it, it will come up talking.
>>> 
>>>   I hope this helps!
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>>> --John F. Kennedy
>>> My e-Mail:
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 12/5/2022 12:36 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:
>>>> I will be using NVDA, due to the fact that I unfortunately can’t afford a 
>>>> license for Jaws, and using it in 40-minute mode too attempt to do this 
>>>> training material isn’t going to work.
>>>>   Can you please send me a direct link to download these ISO files?   I’ve 
>>>> attempted to do several searches to obtain them, and found a site that I 
>>>> thought led to where two find them along with instructions, but is taking 
>>>> me in circles when it comes to downloading then.
>>>> The site I ended up at was something called Minitool.com 
>>>> <http://Minitool.com>, that supposedly redirects you to where to download 
>>>> them, but just seems to take me to more news articles.
>>>>> On Dec 3, 2022, at 12:49 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jessica,
>>>>>   A quick note. If you want to use NVDA which is free, give me some time 
>>>>> to try something. In the meantime, ALL the VMware setup can be done with 
>>>>> Voiceover. So if you go ahead and get a Windows ISO, you're on your way.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>>>>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>>>>> --John F. Kennedy
>>>>> My e-Mail:
>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 12/2/2022 2:28 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:
>>>>>> Ok, that’s what I was afraid of, and to be honest, I think I need 
>>>>>>

Re: VMware Fusion Vs Virtualbox.

2022-12-08 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries

Jessica,
   I'm replying to you on list so someone else can assist with how to 
deal with NVDA.  Good luck!


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
 --John F. Kennedy
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 12/8/2022 8:12 AM, Jessica Moss wrote:

Ok, I’m sure everyone is probably tired of hearing about this, but wanted to 
give a heads-up.  I managed to finally find a direct link to download the 
64-bit ISO file from Microsoft, and think I managed to locate the right file 
regarding VMware Fusion, considering at the moment, I’m just wanting to run 
everything in trial mode just to see how it does.  I also have downloaded NVDA 
and just have everything just sitting in my downloads folder.
   So at this point, my question is, after I start the installation process and 
I eventually get to the point where there’s no longer speech, how do I go about 
installing NVDA, or would I be better off launching team viewer, and having an 
Aira agent help me do the remainder?


On Dec 5, 2022, at 6:29 PM, E.T.  wrote:

-Jessica,
   Maybe I should first suggest another option. I took a quick look at Windows 
11 on Amazon. One option is to buy for $139 and download then you can out it on 
a thumb drive though I don't know how big it is. Or, buy a PC. I saw an HP 
model for $189. If you want to look into getting a PC, there are other brands 
too like Dell.

   For NVDA here is the web site.  It will give you the download button with the "no 
donation" button already selected.

https://www.nvaccess.org/download/

   Here is the VMware site.

https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/downloads/info/slug/desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_fusion/13_0

   VMware Fusion Player 13 is the latest. If you choose to go this route and 
not a PC, you can install this using Voiceover. You can run it and look at its 
settings etc. Once you get a Windows ISO (image file) you can install it into 
Fusion.

   You might want some sihted help after this to put the NVDA file on the 
Windows desktop. When you clock it, it will come up talking.

   I hope this helps!

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
--John F. Kennedy
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 12/5/2022 12:36 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:

I will be using NVDA, due to the fact that I unfortunately can’t afford a 
license for Jaws, and using it in 40-minute mode too attempt to do this 
training material isn’t going to work.
   Can you please send me a direct link to download these ISO files?   I’ve 
attempted to do several searches to obtain them, and found a site that I 
thought led to where two find them along with instructions, but is taking me in 
circles when it comes to downloading then.
The site I ended up at was something called Minitool.com <http://Minitool.com>, 
that supposedly redirects you to where to download them, but just seems to take me to 
more news articles.

On Dec 3, 2022, at 12:49 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Jessica,
   A quick note. If you want to use NVDA which is free, give me some time to 
try something. In the meantime, ALL the VMware setup can be done with 
Voiceover. So if you go ahead and get a Windows ISO, you're on your way.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
--John F. Kennedy
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>

On 12/2/2022 2:28 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:

Ok, that’s what I was afraid of, and to be honest, I think I need whoever is 
willing to please contact me off list.  I have absolutely no idea how to even 
get this started, have never done this before, so I’m going to need some 
guidance, whether we do a team viewer session, back and forth e-mail’s, or 
exchange numbers and stay on the phone as long as one of us is able; I’m open 
to any of these.

On Dec 2, 2022, at 12:45 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:

VMWare is definitely the superior product. However, Voiceover won’t do anything 
once you are inside the virtual session. You would have to install NVDA or JAWS 
 inside the VMWare session in order to make windows fully accessible. Btw, I 
don’t trust narrator to be more than basic system accessibility only, hence my 
suggestions for superior screen readers.

-Eric



On Dec 1, 2022, at 9:18 AM, Jessica Moss mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com><mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com 
<mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com>>> wrote:

I’m still looking into installing Windows on my Mac, in order to attempt to finish my training 
materials throughdhs.org <http://dhs.org/><http://dhs.org/ <http://dhs.org/>>, 
which has come to a halt,, due to the fact that in order to use the testing tools they provide, 
they’re only available for the Windows platform. My supervisor told me about something called 
Vertualbox, which is free to install Wind

Re: VMware Fusion Vs Virtualbox.

2022-12-03 Thread Eric Oyen
I wish I could, but I am in the middle of a marketing project that takes most 
of my time. I am fairly certain there are qualified folks on here. There was an 
ad on the blind ads list earlier where someone offered services to help 
remotely setup and install windows (including screen reader support). Might 
want to check over there.

-Eric


> On Dec 2, 2022, at 3:28 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> Ok, that’s what I was afraid of, and to be honest, I think I need whoever is 
> willing to please contact me off list.  I have absolutely no idea how to even 
> get this started, have never done this before, so I’m going to need some 
> guidance, whether we do a team viewer session, back and forth e-mail’s, or 
> exchange numbers and stay on the phone as long as one of us is able; I’m open 
> to any of these.
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2022, at 12:45 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>> 
>> VMWare is definitely the superior product. However, Voiceover won’t do 
>> anything once you are inside the virtual session. You would have to install 
>> NVDA or JAWS  inside the VMWare session in order to make windows fully 
>> accessible. Btw, I don’t trust narrator to be more than basic system 
>> accessibility only, hence my suggestions for superior screen readers.
>> 
>> -Eric
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 1, 2022, at 9:18 AM, Jessica Moss >> <mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m still looking into installing Windows on my Mac, in order to attempt to 
>>> finish my training materials through dhs.org <http://dhs.org/>, which has 
>>> come to a halt,, due to the fact that in order to use the testing tools 
>>> they provide, they’re only available for the Windows platform.  My 
>>> supervisor told me about something called Vertualbox, which is free to 
>>> install Windows on, as opposed to VMware Fusion, but he had no idea if it 
>>> was usable with Voiceover.  Can anyone with experience with either/or 
>>> please give me some tips on how to run them?
>>>   I don’t currently own a copy of Windows, so will have to find out how to 
>>> obtain everything/get things up and running.
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Re: VMware Fusion Vs Virtualbox.

2022-12-02 Thread Jessica Moss
Ok, that’s what I was afraid of, and to be honest, I think I need whoever is 
willing to please contact me off list.  I have absolutely no idea how to even 
get this started, have never done this before, so I’m going to need some 
guidance, whether we do a team viewer session, back and forth e-mail’s, or 
exchange numbers and stay on the phone as long as one of us is able; I’m open 
to any of these.

> On Dec 2, 2022, at 12:45 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> 
> VMWare is definitely the superior product. However, Voiceover won’t do 
> anything once you are inside the virtual session. You would have to install 
> NVDA or JAWS  inside the VMWare session in order to make windows fully 
> accessible. Btw, I don’t trust narrator to be more than basic system 
> accessibility only, hence my suggestions for superior screen readers.
> 
> -Eric
> 
> 
>> On Dec 1, 2022, at 9:18 AM, Jessica Moss > <mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’m still looking into installing Windows on my Mac, in order to attempt to 
>> finish my training materials through dhs.org <http://dhs.org/>, which has 
>> come to a halt,, due to the fact that in order to use the testing tools they 
>> provide, they’re only available for the Windows platform.  My supervisor 
>> told me about something called Vertualbox, which is free to install Windows 
>> on, as opposed to VMware Fusion, but he had no idea if it was usable with 
>> Voiceover.  Can anyone with experience with either/or please give me some 
>> tips on how to run them?
>>   I don’t currently own a copy of Windows, so will have to find out how to 
>> obtain everything/get things up and running.
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Re: VMware Fusion Vs Virtualbox.

2022-12-01 Thread Eric Oyen
VMWare is definitely the superior product. However, Voiceover won’t do anything 
once you are inside the virtual session. You would have to install NVDA or JAWS 
 inside the VMWare session in order to make windows fully accessible. Btw, I 
don’t trust narrator to be more than basic system accessibility only, hence my 
suggestions for superior screen readers.

-Eric


> On Dec 1, 2022, at 9:18 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> I’m still looking into installing Windows on my Mac, in order to attempt to 
> finish my training materials through dhs.org <http://dhs.org/>, which has 
> come to a halt,, due to the fact that in order to use the testing tools they 
> provide, they’re only available for the Windows platform.  My supervisor told 
> me about something called Vertualbox, which is free to install Windows on, as 
> opposed to VMware Fusion, but he had no idea if it was usable with Voiceover. 
>  Can anyone with experience with either/or please give me some tips on how to 
> run them?
>   I don’t currently own a copy of Windows, so will have to find out how to 
> obtain everything/get things up and running.
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Re: VMware Fusion Vs Virtualbox.

2022-12-01 Thread Maurice A. mines
Hi I wood  stick with  Vmw Ware I have  been  using this  software for  more  
than  tin years, and  have  had  vary  few  problems.

Maurice  Mines.

> On Dec 1, 2022, at 16:18, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> I’m still looking into installing Windows on my Mac, in order to attempt to 
> finish my training materials through dhs.org <http://dhs.org/>, which has 
> come to a halt,, due to the fact that in order to use the testing tools they 
> provide, they’re only available for the Windows platform.  My supervisor told 
> me about something called Vertualbox, which is free to install Windows on, as 
> opposed to VMware Fusion, but he had no idea if it was usable with Voiceover. 
>  Can anyone with experience with either/or please give me some tips on how to 
> run them?
>   I don’t currently own a copy of Windows, so will have to find out how to 
> obtain everything/get things up and running.
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VMware Fusion Vs Virtualbox.

2022-12-01 Thread Jessica Moss
I’m still looking into installing Windows on my Mac, in order to attempt to 
finish my training materials through dhs.org <http://dhs.org/>, which has come 
to a halt,, due to the fact that in order to use the testing tools they 
provide, they’re only available for the Windows platform.  My supervisor told 
me about something called Vertualbox, which is free to install Windows on, as 
opposed to VMware Fusion, but he had no idea if it was usable with Voiceover.  
Can anyone with experience with either/or please give me some tips on how to 
run them?
  I don’t currently own a copy of Windows, so will have to find out how to 
obtain everything/get things up and running.

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Re: VMware Fusion and Login Items

2022-11-02 Thread Matthew Dyer

Hi,



I used vmware fusion in the beta and had the same thing it is quite 
annoying.



Matthew



On 11/2/2022 2:47 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:
   This question is for anyone who is running VMware Fusion under 
Ventura. That app is not in the login items list relating to 
background checks. When I launch the app, I always get a notification 
that suggests I can enable this which I do not want.


   The app appears in the list and I toggle it to 'no'. Makes no 
difference. I haven't found any setting that might resolve this. Any 
ideas? Thanks much.


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VMware Fusion and Login Items

2022-11-02 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   This question is for anyone who is running VMware Fusion under 
Ventura. That app is not in the login items list relating to background 
checks. When I launch the app, I always get a notification that suggests 
I can enable this which I do not want.


   The app appears in the list and I toggle it to 'no'. Makes no 
difference. I haven't found any setting that might resolve this. Any 
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Re: VMWare Fusion On Mac OS Monterey

2022-04-24 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Well, for  me it works but you might add more than 4 gb ram.
& gb for example.
/A

> 24 apr. 2022 kl. 16:39 skrev Pete De Vasto :
> 
> Hi all,
> If this has come up before, apologies for the repeat. I’ve upgraded my early 
> 2015 MacBook Air to Monterey, and am now trying to get VMWare Fusion up and 
> running. I had one of the earliest instances of VMWare 11 previously, and 
> removed it first, then I installed the latest version, 12.2 I think it is. 
> I’ve got a free personal license, and used the Easy Install feature, but 
> whenever I try to start my Windows 10 Home X64 machine, it either hangs or I 
> can’t seem to get to the machine’s window. The Windows machine is configured 
> with all of VMWare’s defaults, except I increased memory to 4GB instead of 
> 2GB. If anyone is using VMWare under Monterey, do you have any ideas of 
> settings I might need to change? I guess it could be that early 2015 MacBook 
> Airs are a little too old as well.
> Thanks for any help or ideas,
> Pete De Vasto
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Re: VMWare Fusion On Mac OS Monterey

2022-04-24 Thread Maurice Mines
First of all let me say I’m dictating this to my phone because I’m just waking 
up. To don’t use VMware 11 you can only use version 12. I would strongly 
suggest the free version if that doesn’t work you’re likely to have to use 
parallel VMware with Drew from the Mac market as far as OS X Monterey they are 
focusing on the UNIX crowd not the Mac crowd I have used parallels but here’s a 
warning if they configuration doesn’t work it will mess with Apple‘s power 
management I have a MacBook Pro 2020 and long story short when I did that it 
went into a crash and reboot loop I have abandoned putting windows on my Mac 
but because I have to use windows or dictation  dictation one can read, 
separate windows machine now. Back and windows are now on different hardware. 
Works much better for me I’m not saying this is your situation nor am I 
suggesting that you should. I just want to make certain that you and others are 
aware of the issues.  Again please remember I’m dictating this to my phone so 
if you can’t understand some thing just ask me what I meant. Oh final note this 
doesn’t involve organizational endorsement or even advice on this. This is just 
the signature that goes on my phone. 

maurice Mines  
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> If this has come up before, apologies for the repeat. I’ve upgraded my early 
> 2015 MacBook Air to Monterey, and am now trying to get VMWare Fusion up and 
> running. I had one of the earliest instances of VMWare 11 previously, and 
> removed it first, then I installed the latest version, 12.2 I think it is. 
> I’ve got a free personal license, and used the Easy Install feature, but 
> whenever I try to start my Windows 10 Home X64 machine, it either hangs or I 
> can’t seem to get to the machine’s window. The Windows machine is configured 
> with all of VMWare’s defaults, except I increased memory to 4GB instead of 
> 2GB. If anyone is using VMWare under Monterey, do you have any ideas of 
> settings I might need to change? I guess it could be that early 2015 MacBook 
> Airs are a little too old as well.
> Thanks for any help or ideas,
> Pete De Vasto
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Re: VMWare Fusion On Mac OS Monterey

2022-04-24 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
Good probability that there was an error message on the screen that you need to 
look at. I had issues with the boot partition and windows failing giving some 
things like this.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 24, 2022, at 10:39 AM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> If this has come up before, apologies for the repeat. I’ve upgraded my early 
> 2015 MacBook Air to Monterey, and am now trying to get VMWare Fusion up and 
> running. I had one of the earliest instances of VMWare 11 previously, and 
> removed it first, then I installed the latest version, 12.2 I think it is. 
> I’ve got a free personal license, and used the Easy Install feature, but 
> whenever I try to start my Windows 10 Home X64 machine, it either hangs or I 
> can’t seem to get to the machine’s window. The Windows machine is configured 
> with all of VMWare’s defaults, except I increased memory to 4GB instead of 
> 2GB. If anyone is using VMWare under Monterey, do you have any ideas of 
> settings I might need to change? I guess it could be that early 2015 MacBook 
> Airs are a little too old as well.
> Thanks for any help or ideas,
> Pete De Vasto
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VMWare Fusion On Mac OS Monterey

2022-04-24 Thread Pete De Vasto
Hi all,
If this has come up before, apologies for the repeat. I’ve upgraded my early 
2015 MacBook Air to Monterey, and am now trying to get VMWare Fusion up and 
running. I had one of the earliest instances of VMWare 11 previously, and 
removed it first, then I installed the latest version, 12.2 I think it is. I’ve 
got a free personal license, and used the Easy Install feature, but whenever I 
try to start my Windows 10 Home X64 machine, it either hangs or I can’t seem to 
get to the machine’s window. The Windows machine is configured with all of 
VMWare’s defaults, except I increased memory to 4GB instead of 2GB. If anyone 
is using VMWare under Monterey, do you have any ideas of settings I might need 
to change? I guess it could be that early 2015 MacBook Airs are a little too 
old as well.
Thanks for any help or ideas,
Pete De Vasto

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Re: vmware fusion and bootcamp partition question

2021-07-20 Thread The wolf

Hello it was just a suggestion

from what I under stnd you can not resize the boot camp partition once 
it has been created


On 7/20/2021 6:32 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
Why do you think reloading the OS will help? There are often less 
drastic ways to correct an issue. I'm curious with APFS volumes  the 
partition sizing can be adjusted after initially being created, does 
this extend to the Bootcamp partition too? If so, then you could just 
adjust later in disk utility.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



On Jul 20, 2021, at 00:49, The wolf <mailto:hank.smith...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hello

I will give it another go on vmware fusion.

I am still running in to the weird bootcamp slider issue as well

am wondering if I should just reload the mac operating system?

Hank


On 7/19/2021 5:46 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
It just works. Sometimes I push an arrow key to get it to take focus 
but just putting your voiceover cursor into the VM will cause it to 
be taking control. Then when you’re ready to stop using the VM you 
need to push control and option.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 17, 2021, at 5:58 PM, The wolf <mailto:hank.smith...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hello

I tried doing that and it isn't working

is ther4e anything else you can suggest fore both issues?

Hank



On 7/17/2021 2:25 PM, Matthew Dyer wrote:
Matthew



sorry, if you tried switching to fullscreen mode while the vm 
window.  HTH.




Hi,





On 7/17/2021 5:15 PM, The wolf wrote:
think you missed typed in your last email

Areusing full scren.  If not, try that and see what happens.  I 
am using fussion 12 with no problems.

can you resend?

Hank


On 7/17/2021 2:14 PM, Matthew Dyer wrote:

Matthew



Areusing full scren.  If not, try that and see what happens. I 
am using fussion 12 with no problems.




Hi,




On 7/17/2021 5:04 PM, The wolf wrote:

Hello

cmd plus G does not work in vmware fusion 12

and there is no slider wwhat so ever when setting up boot camp 
using the assistant


am confused

I am using the latest osx if that helps any

thanks

Hank


On 7/16/2021 12:42 PM, Matthew Dyer wrote:

Matthew



You can get command ofthe vm was using cmd plus G.  The 
bootcamp partition can be set was using the sider. Interactive 
withthe slider and VO left and right til you have it set the 
way you want then click next.




Hi



On 7/15/2021 7:04 PM, The wolf wrote:

Hello

I have a couple of questions  sent this to the list a couple 
of days ago and have not heard back


in vmware fusion 12

once you start a virtual machine how do you get control of 
the virtual machine to start using it what is the keyboard 
command fore that?


on bootcamp assistant when you choose the size of the 
partition how do you do that?


I can not find the part to change the amount that you set 
aside fore the bootcamp partition and I need to change it


can I please get some help on these questions

thanks

Hank




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Re: vmware fusion and bootcamp partition question

2021-07-19 Thread The wolf

Hello

I will give it another go on vmware fusion.

I am still running in to the weird bootcamp slider issue as well

am wondering if I should just reload the mac operating system?

Hank


On 7/19/2021 5:46 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:

It just works. Sometimes I push an arrow key to get it to take focus but just 
putting your voiceover cursor into the VM will cause it to be taking control. 
Then when you’re ready to stop using the VM you need to push control and option.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 17, 2021, at 5:58 PM, The wolf  wrote:

Hello

I tried doing that and it isn't working

is ther4e anything else you can suggest fore both issues?

Hank



On 7/17/2021 2:25 PM, Matthew Dyer wrote:
Matthew



sorry, if you tried switching to fullscreen mode while the vm window.  HTH.



Hi,





On 7/17/2021 5:15 PM, The wolf wrote:
think you missed typed in your last email

Areusing full scren.  If not, try that and see what happens.  I am using 
fussion 12 with no problems.
can you resend?

Hank


On 7/17/2021 2:14 PM, Matthew Dyer wrote:

Matthew



Areusing full scren.  If not, try that and see what happens. I am using fussion 
12 with no problems.



Hi,




On 7/17/2021 5:04 PM, The wolf wrote:

Hello

cmd plus G does not work in vmware fusion 12

and there is no slider wwhat so ever when setting up boot camp using the 
assistant

am confused

I am using the latest osx if that helps any

thanks

Hank


On 7/16/2021 12:42 PM, Matthew Dyer wrote:

Matthew



You can get command ofthe vm was using cmd plus G.  The bootcamp partition can 
be set was using the sider. Interactive withthe slider and VO left and right 
til you have it set the way you want then click next.



Hi



On 7/15/2021 7:04 PM, The wolf wrote:

Hello

I have a couple of questions  sent this to the list a couple of days ago and 
have not heard back

in vmware fusion 12

once you start a virtual machine how do you get control of the virtual machine 
to start using it what is the keyboard command fore that?

on bootcamp assistant when you choose the size of the partition how do you do 
that?

I can not find the part to change the amount that you set aside fore the 
bootcamp partition and I need to change it

can I please get some help on these questions

thanks

Hank




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Re: vmware fusion and bootcamp partition question

2021-07-19 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
It just works. Sometimes I push an arrow key to get it to take focus but just 
putting your voiceover cursor into the VM will cause it to be taking control. 
Then when you’re ready to stop using the VM you need to push control and option.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 17, 2021, at 5:58 PM, The wolf  wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> I tried doing that and it isn't working
> 
> is ther4e anything else you can suggest fore both issues?
> 
> Hank
> 
> 
>> On 7/17/2021 2:25 PM, Matthew Dyer wrote:
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> sorry, if you tried switching to fullscreen mode while the vm window.  HTH.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7/17/2021 5:15 PM, The wolf wrote:
>>> think you missed typed in your last email
>>> 
>>> Areusing full scren.  If not, try that and see what happens.  I am using 
>>> fussion 12 with no problems.
>>> can you resend?
>>> 
>>> Hank
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7/17/2021 2:14 PM, Matthew Dyer wrote:
>>>> Matthew
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Areusing full scren.  If not, try that and see what happens. I am using 
>>>> fussion 12 with no problems.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 7/17/2021 5:04 PM, The wolf wrote:
>>>>> Hello
>>>>> 
>>>>> cmd plus G does not work in vmware fusion 12
>>>>> 
>>>>> and there is no slider wwhat so ever when setting up boot camp using the 
>>>>> assistant
>>>>> 
>>>>> am confused
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am using the latest osx if that helps any
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hank
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 7/16/2021 12:42 PM, Matthew Dyer wrote:
>>>>>> Matthew
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You can get command ofthe vm was using cmd plus G.  The bootcamp 
>>>>>> partition can be set was using the sider. Interactive withthe slider and 
>>>>>> VO left and right til you have it set the way you want then click next.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 7/15/2021 7:04 PM, The wolf wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have a couple of questions  sent this to the list a couple of days 
>>>>>>> ago and have not heard back
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> in vmware fusion 12
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> once you start a virtual machine how do you get control of the virtual 
>>>>>>> machine to start using it what is the keyboard command fore that?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> on bootcamp assistant when you choose the size of the partition how do 
>>>>>>> you do that?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I can not find the part to change the amount that you set aside fore 
>>>>>>> the bootcamp partition and I need to change it
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> can I please get some help on these questions
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hank
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
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Re: vmware fusion and bootcamp partition question

2021-07-17 Thread The wolf

Hello

I tried doing that and it isn't working

is ther4e anything else you can suggest fore both issues?

Hank


On 7/17/2021 2:25 PM, Matthew Dyer wrote:

Matthew



sorry, if you tried switching to fullscreen mode while the vm window.  
HTH.




Hi,




On 7/17/2021 5:15 PM, The wolf wrote:

think you missed typed in your last email

Areusing full scren.  If not, try that and see what happens.  I am 
using fussion 12 with no problems.

can you resend?

Hank


On 7/17/2021 2:14 PM, Matthew Dyer wrote:

Matthew



Areusing full scren.  If not, try that and see what happens. I am 
using fussion 12 with no problems.




Hi,




On 7/17/2021 5:04 PM, The wolf wrote:

Hello

cmd plus G does not work in vmware fusion 12

and there is no slider wwhat so ever when setting up boot camp 
using the assistant


am confused

I am using the latest osx if that helps any

thanks

Hank


On 7/16/2021 12:42 PM, Matthew Dyer wrote:

Matthew



You can get command ofthe vm was using cmd plus G.  The bootcamp 
partition can be set was using the sider. Interactive withthe 
slider and VO left and right til you have it set the way you want 
then click next.




Hi



On 7/15/2021 7:04 PM, The wolf wrote:

Hello

I have a couple of questions  sent this to the list a couple of 
days ago and have not heard back


in vmware fusion 12

once you start a virtual machine how do you get control of the 
virtual machine to start using it what is the keyboard command 
fore that?


on bootcamp assistant when you choose the size of the partition 
how do you do that?


I can not find the part to change the amount that you set aside 
fore the bootcamp partition and I need to change it


can I please get some help on these questions

thanks

Hank









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Re: vmware fusion and bootcamp partition question

2021-07-17 Thread The wolf

think you missed typed in your last email

Areusing full scren.  If not, try that and see what happens.  I am using 
fussion 12 with no problems.

can you resend?

Hank


On 7/17/2021 2:14 PM, Matthew Dyer wrote:

Matthew



Areusing full scren.  If not, try that and see what happens.  I am 
using fussion 12 with no problems.




Hi,




On 7/17/2021 5:04 PM, The wolf wrote:

Hello

cmd plus G does not work in vmware fusion 12

and there is no slider wwhat so ever when setting up boot camp using 
the assistant


am confused

I am using the latest osx if that helps any

thanks

Hank


On 7/16/2021 12:42 PM, Matthew Dyer wrote:

Matthew



You can get command ofthe vm was using cmd plus G.  The bootcamp 
partition can be set was using the sider. Interactive withthe slider 
and VO left and right til you have it set the way you want then 
click next.




Hi



On 7/15/2021 7:04 PM, The wolf wrote:

Hello

I have a couple of questions  sent this to the list a couple of 
days ago and have not heard back


in vmware fusion 12

once you start a virtual machine how do you get control of the 
virtual machine to start using it what is the keyboard command fore 
that?


on bootcamp assistant when you choose the size of the partition how 
do you do that?


I can not find the part to change the amount that you set aside 
fore the bootcamp partition and I need to change it


can I please get some help on these questions

thanks

Hank







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Re: vmware fusion and bootcamp partition question

2021-07-17 Thread The wolf

Hello

cmd plus G does not work in vmware fusion 12

and there is no slider wwhat so ever when setting up boot camp using the 
assistant


am confused

I am using the latest osx if that helps any

thanks

Hank


On 7/16/2021 12:42 PM, Matthew Dyer wrote:

Matthew



You can get command ofthe vm was using cmd plus G.  The bootcamp 
partition can be set was using the sider.  Interactive withthe slider 
and VO left and right til you have it set the way you want then click 
next.




Hi



On 7/15/2021 7:04 PM, The wolf wrote:

Hello

I have a couple of questions  sent this to the list a couple of days 
ago and have not heard back


in vmware fusion 12

once you start a virtual machine how do you get control of the 
virtual machine to start using it what is the keyboard command fore 
that?


on bootcamp assistant when you choose the size of the partition how 
do you do that?


I can not find the part to change the amount that you set aside fore 
the bootcamp partition and I need to change it


can I please get some help on these questions

thanks

Hank





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vmware fusion and bootcamp partition question

2021-07-15 Thread The wolf

Hello

I have a couple of questions  sent this to the list a couple of days ago 
and have not heard back


in vmware fusion 12

once you start a virtual machine how do you get control of the virtual 
machine to start using it what is the keyboard command fore that?


on bootcamp assistant when you choose the size of the partition how do 
you do that?


I can not find the part to change the amount that you set aside fore the 
bootcamp partition and I need to change it


can I please get some help on these questions

thanks

Hank



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controling windows virtual machine on vmware fusion

2021-07-13 Thread The wolf
Hello I am trying to get windows10 set up using vmware fusion pro12 once it 
is installed how do I gain access to the virtual machine so I can control 
the vm?  in windows you can hit control g to grab input to control a 
virtual machine how ever there does not seem to be a mac varient of that I 
can not figure out how to get control of the virtual machine on vmware 
fusion 12 pro can any one help me out please?  thanks Hank

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Re: I have a VMware fusion question, please read below.

2021-05-10 Thread Brett Lewis
Hi,
I don't know if you figured this out, but there is the snapshots menu item,
which is part of the virtual machine menu.
You have a list of all your saved snapshots which you can delete by using
the shortcut menu  on a snapshot and selecting it.  The delete button then
should become available and you can delete it.
This process is a little bit inconsistent but does work.
In that dialog there is also an auto protect button which lets you specify
the number of snapshots to keep.
HTH,
Brett


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I have a VMware fusion question, please read below.

2021-05-07 Thread maurice mines
Hello, here's my question is there any way to delete a huge pile of 
snapshot files. Unfortunately my Windows virtual machine is taking 
almost 400 gig up on my drive. In fact I don't believe my Windows is 
nearly that big. Is there an easy way to do this? And if so can someone 
make some suggestions is to how to do this without destroying the 
virtual machine?



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Re: Windows 10 on VMware Fusion.

2021-04-13 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Focus 40 5th gen.
But I think that Narrator is quite great anyway.
They can  be an alternative to those who don’t want the Mac.
/A

> 13 apr. 2021 kl. 18:00 skrev Pete De Vasto :
> 
> What Braille Display are you using, and what version of Windows is installed. 
> If you don’t know the version, you can press Windows+R, and when it asks for 
> a program name, type winner and press ENTER. I agree, the Braille support is 
> not the greatest with Narrator, but Microsoft appears to be trying to make 
> things better with each new version of Windows they release. I believe 
> another version is coming out next month.
> 
> Pete
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2021, at 8:57 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Certainly it did.
>> Narrator works now so things are working great here.
>> But I was not impressed by the braille support.
>> But I guess I need to do a restart to make it work properly.
>> Now its just time to get a license.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 13 apr. 2021 kl. 17:54 skrev Pete De Vasto :
>>> 
>>> Hi Anders,
>>> 
>>> This same thing happened to me over a year ago when I first tried getting 
>>> Win10 up and running under VMWare. I don’t remember all the details, but I 
>>> seem to remember the problem being caused by VMware Fusion not being able 
>>> to access everything on your Mac. Go to System Preferences > Privacy and 
>>> Security > Privacy tab, and make sure VMWWare Fusion.app has complete 
>>> control of your computer. That may not be everything necessary, but 
>>> hopefully it’ll give you a start.
>>> 
>>> Pete De Vasto
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 13, 2021, at 8:33 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi!
>>>> I don’t know if this matters but I have installed Windows 10 onto my 
>>>> VMware Fusion.
>>>> I don’t have a License key but I think you can run windows 10 in demo mode 
>>>> for some time.
>>>> However I don’t hear any sound when starting Windows up.
>>>> The audio device is connected and I hear my Computers fan work very hard.
>>>> Maybe 4 Gig of memory is to less for windows 10.
>>>> But I only have 8 on my MacBook Air 2015.
>>>> Any ideas are welcome.
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> /A
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Re: Windows 10 on VMware Fusion.

2021-04-13 Thread Pete De Vasto
What Braille Display are you using, and what version of Windows is installed. 
If you don’t know the version, you can press Windows+R, and when it asks for a 
program name, type winner and press ENTER. I agree, the Braille support is not 
the greatest with Narrator, but Microsoft appears to be trying to make things 
better with each new version of Windows they release. I believe another version 
is coming out next month.

Pete

> On Apr 13, 2021, at 8:57 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Certainly it did.
> Narrator works now so things are working great here.
> But I was not impressed by the braille support.
> But I guess I need to do a restart to make it work properly.
> Now its just time to get a license.
> /A
> 
>> 13 apr. 2021 kl. 17:54 skrev Pete De Vasto :
>> 
>> Hi Anders,
>> 
>> This same thing happened to me over a year ago when I first tried getting 
>> Win10 up and running under VMWare. I don’t remember all the details, but I 
>> seem to remember the problem being caused by VMware Fusion not being able to 
>> access everything on your Mac. Go to System Preferences > Privacy and 
>> Security > Privacy tab, and make sure VMWWare Fusion.app has complete 
>> control of your computer. That may not be everything necessary, but 
>> hopefully it’ll give you a start.
>> 
>> Pete De Vasto
>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2021, at 8:33 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I don’t know if this matters but I have installed Windows 10 onto my VMware 
>>> Fusion.
>>> I don’t have a License key but I think you can run windows 10 in demo mode 
>>> for some time.
>>> However I don’t hear any sound when starting Windows up.
>>> The audio device is connected and I hear my Computers fan work very hard.
>>> Maybe 4 Gig of memory is to less for windows 10.
>>> But I only have 8 on my MacBook Air 2015.
>>> Any ideas are welcome.
>>> Thanks.
>>> /A
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Re: Windows 10 on VMware Fusion.

2021-04-13 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Certainly it did.
Narrator works now so things are working great here.
But I was not impressed by the braille support.
But I guess I need to do a restart to make it work properly.
Now its just time to get a license.
/A

> 13 apr. 2021 kl. 17:54 skrev Pete De Vasto :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> This same thing happened to me over a year ago when I first tried getting 
> Win10 up and running under VMWare. I don’t remember all the details, but I 
> seem to remember the problem being caused by VMware Fusion not being able to 
> access everything on your Mac. Go to System Preferences > Privacy and 
> Security > Privacy tab, and make sure VMWWare Fusion.app has complete control 
> of your computer. That may not be everything necessary, but hopefully it’ll 
> give you a start.
> 
> Pete De Vasto
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2021, at 8:33 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I don’t know if this matters but I have installed Windows 10 onto my VMware 
>> Fusion.
>> I don’t have a License key but I think you can run windows 10 in demo mode 
>> for some time.
>> However I don’t hear any sound when starting Windows up.
>> The audio device is connected and I hear my Computers fan work very hard.
>> Maybe 4 Gig of memory is to less for windows 10.
>> But I only have 8 on my MacBook Air 2015.
>> Any ideas are welcome.
>> Thanks.
>> /A
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Re: Windows 10 on VMware Fusion.

2021-04-13 Thread Pete De Vasto
Hi Anders,

This same thing happened to me over a year ago when I first tried getting Win10 
up and running under VMWare. I don’t remember all the details, but I seem to 
remember the problem being caused by VMware Fusion not being able to access 
everything on your Mac. Go to System Preferences > Privacy and Security > 
Privacy tab, and make sure VMWWare Fusion.app has complete control of your 
computer. That may not be everything necessary, but hopefully it’ll give you a 
start.

Pete De Vasto

> On Apr 13, 2021, at 8:33 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I don’t know if this matters but I have installed Windows 10 onto my VMware 
> Fusion.
> I don’t have a License key but I think you can run windows 10 in demo mode 
> for some time.
> However I don’t hear any sound when starting Windows up.
> The audio device is connected and I hear my Computers fan work very hard.
> Maybe 4 Gig of memory is to less for windows 10.
> But I only have 8 on my MacBook Air 2015.
> Any ideas are welcome.
> Thanks.
> /A
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Windows 10 on VMware Fusion.

2021-04-13 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
I don’t know if this matters but I have installed Windows 10 onto my VMware 
Fusion.
I don’t have a License key but I think you can run windows 10 in demo mode for 
some time.
However I don’t hear any sound when starting Windows up.
The audio device is connected and I hear my Computers fan work very hard.
Maybe 4 Gig of memory is to less for windows 10.
But I only have 8 on my MacBook Air 2015.
Any ideas are welcome.
Thanks.
/A

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I am having issues with VMware fusion 12 and the lack of sound.

2020-11-30 Thread maurice mines
Good morning, at least it is here on the West Coast of the United 
States. My subject line unfortunately says it all. I have tried to make 
a virtual machine for my Boot Camp partition, and from an actual Windows 
installation ISO file. I can complete the creation of the virtual 
machine okay, however, after the machine is created I get absolutely no 
sound. Is this a known issue? Has anyone successfully figured out how to 
solve it? I am wanting to virtualize my windows. This I think would make 
things easier in terms of system administration.



Just for the record, I am running Mac OS Big Sur. Which is the reason 
why I have to use VMware fusion version 12. Any thoughts from anyone?



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