Re: [maemo-developers] kernel code

2006-09-04 Thread Devesh Kothari
Guillem Jover wrote:

> On Sun, 2006-09-03 at 09:55:52 +0200, ext Koen Kooi wrote:
> > Kalle Vahlman schreef:
> > > The version in IT2006 is
> > >
> > >
> http://repository.maemo.org/pool/mistral/non-free/k/kernel-source-2.6.16/
> >
> > Non-free !?!?
>
> Right, could someone (Ferenc, Devesh?) please check and fix the contents
> of that repo? There's other packages which seem wrongly placed, like
> attr, bzip2, build-essential, etc.
>
This obviously needs to be fixed ! Ferenc any reason they ended up in
non-free part ?
Put it on my list of issues that need to be persued. Should plan as part
of Maemo 2.1

Devesh

> thanks,
> guillem
>

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[maemo-developers] Application installer feature requests/suggestions

2006-09-04 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi,

I know that the repositories are the preferred method for
installing packages, but after installing yesterday >20
(Hatari) packages "From file..." several times in succession
(to test the packages I created), I started to wish for
following features:
- Multiselection in the fileselection widget, or
- Application installer remembering from which directory
  the last file was selected and opening the filesel
  to the same dir next time (can be forgotten at
  application exit)
- After installing one file, application installer asking
  with a dialog either:
  - "Install another package from file? [OK] [Cancel]"
(so that I don't need to use the menus each time as that's
 3 clicks of differents keys instead of 1 additional select
 click), or
  - "Add this directory as a package repository? [OK] [Cancel]"
(so that if I use the same MMC directory for transferring
 more packages, I don't need to anymore use the fsel)

The file selector is getting pretty annoying after using
it the 40th time in succession when I need each time first
navigate to the correct directory (and before that wait until
it has scanned all the subfolders in a directory).


Btw. I also tried adding "file:///media/mmc1/atari" as a repository
(+ disabling the other tableteer repo), but when I refreshed
the package list, Application installer disappeared.


- Eero


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[maemo-developers] Re: Repositories

2006-09-04 Thread Devesh Kothari
ext Andrey Khurri wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I am now a bit puzzled with this repositories stuff. I've been always
> aware of that repository.maemo.org MUST NOT be used on a host
> workstation or PC. This is clear.
>
> However, how should I interpret all those warnings that this repository
> is 'ONLY' meant for using inside Scratchbox? This 'ONLY' sounds
> ambiguously to me when I look at i.e. ApplicationCatalog2006 and see
> there lots of packages meant for Nokia 770 device and available from
> repository.maemo.org. Doesn't this mean that repository.maemo.org should
> be included in /etc/apt/sources.list on Nokia 770 in order to get those
> packages installed?
>
> Or is the difference that one could fetch packages from
> repository.maemo.org and install them on Nokia 770 BUT could NOT use
> this repository to upgrade tablet (like 'apt-get upgrade')?
>
Correct. We need to look into organizing the repositories better
In most ideal and correct case, the apt-get upgrade from
repository.maemo.org should not do anything on the device so
validate perfect sync between packages on the device and packages
in the maemo repository. The problem starts from the fact that
maemo integration team takes these packages from internal package
repository for device and then
- reorganize them in a different (free/non-free) components then available
  internally
- some source packages are cleaned to meet legal requirements (these cleanup
  patches are filled as bugs in internal bugzilla, but sometimes not
applied internally
  promptly, causing a different versions of binary packages produced)
- some device binary packages are replaced with  packages delivered
specifically
  for maemo e.g binary input method, themes, bitmaps, multimedia (codecs
etc)

>From this repo, then the developer rootfs is produced, in idea case,
apt-upgrade on
this developer rootfs should be OK.

> I was also thinking that any package installable inside SB environment
> (in an armel target) can be installed on Nokia 770? If this is right can
> the same repositories be used both inside SB and on N770?
>
The problem is with upgrade :( I have put this on the agenda to be
discussed and fixed.

that doesnt help very much, but atleast hopefully clarify a few things
Devesh

> Someone please comment on this.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Andrey
>
> Devesh Kothari wrote:
> > Please note the warning on
> > http://maemo.org/downloads/download-sdk.html#Package+repository
> >
> > DONT USE THE maemo.org repository to upgrade your device. IT IS
> > CURRENTLY NOT MEANT FOR THIS AN DEVICE UPGRADE HAS NEVER BEEN TESTED.
> > UPGRADE only maemo rootstrap installed INSIDE SB development
> environment.
> >
> > Devesh
> >  
>

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Re: [maemo-developers] Initiating connections programatically

2006-09-04 Thread Kimmo Hämäläinen
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 13:21, ext Patrik Flykt wrote:
>   Hi,
> 
> On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 14:55 -0400, ext D. Scott Brown wrote:
> > connection. We've tried using both LIBOSSO and Linux wireless tools  
> > without success.
> 
> ICd listens on the system bus. I think libosso connects only to the
> session bus and/or allows only some messages through from system bus.

Libosso connects to both busses. See osso_rpc_run_system_* functions.

BR; Kimmo

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[maemo-developers] Repositories

2006-09-04 Thread Andrey Khurri

Hi all,

I am now a bit puzzled with this repositories stuff. I've been always 
aware of that repository.maemo.org MUST NOT be used on a host 
workstation or PC. This is clear.


However, how should I interpret all those warnings that this repository 
is 'ONLY' meant for using inside Scratchbox? This 'ONLY' sounds 
ambiguously to me when I look at i.e. ApplicationCatalog2006 and see 
there lots of packages meant for Nokia 770 device and available from 
repository.maemo.org. Doesn't this mean that repository.maemo.org should 
be included in /etc/apt/sources.list on Nokia 770 in order to get those 
packages installed?


Or is the difference that one could fetch packages from 
repository.maemo.org and install them on Nokia 770 BUT could NOT use 
this repository to upgrade tablet (like 'apt-get upgrade')?


I was also thinking that any package installable inside SB environment 
(in an armel target) can be installed on Nokia 770? If this is right can 
the same repositories be used both inside SB and on N770?


Someone please comment on this.

Best regards,

Andrey

Devesh Kothari wrote:

Please note the warning on
http://maemo.org/downloads/download-sdk.html#Package+repository

DONT USE THE maemo.org repository to upgrade your device. IT IS
CURRENTLY NOT MEANT FOR THIS AN DEVICE UPGRADE HAS NEVER BEEN TESTED.
UPGRADE only maemo rootstrap installed INSIDE SB development environment.

Devesh
  

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Re: [maemo-developers] kernel code

2006-09-04 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sun, 2006-09-03 at 09:55:52 +0200, ext Koen Kooi wrote:
> Kalle Vahlman schreef:
> > The version in IT2006 is
> > 
> > http://repository.maemo.org/pool/mistral/non-free/k/kernel-source-2.6.16/
> 
> Non-free !?!?

Right, could someone (Ferenc, Devesh?) please check and fix the contents
of that repo? There's other packages which seem wrongly placed, like
attr, bzip2, build-essential, etc.

thanks,
guillem
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Re: [maemo-developers] Problems installing Sardine SDK

2006-09-04 Thread Marius Vollmer
"ext Adi Roiban" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I tried to install sardine distro in a scratchbox target.
>
> First thing that has gone wrong was libbluetooth1 and i had to force it 
>
>  fakeroot dpkg -i --force-all libbluetooth1_3.1_i386.deb

Yes, that is a known issue.  It will hopefully be fixed soonish.

> After that the upgrade went fine.
>
> Now i could not start the Control Panel. 
> I installed hildon-control-panel-2.2.5-1

True, I can reproduce this here.  You can try to start the control
panel from the shell like so:

$ /usr/bin/controlpanel

This will hang indefinitely.

I don't know why yet.  Please stay tuned... (but it can be a week or
so.)


> Below  is what i see when i try to start control panel from task
> navigator.
>
> hn-wm.c:265,hn_wm_top_service()  Called with 'com.nokia.controlpanel'
> hn-wm.c:299,hn_wm_top_service() ### Failed to read memory limits, using
> scratchbox ??
> hn-wm.c:332,hn_wm_top_service() unable to find service name
> 'com.nokia.controlpanel' in running wins
> hn-wm.c:333,hn_wm_top_service() Thus launcing via osso_manager_launch()
> hn-wm.c:1493,hn_wm_dbus_method_call_handler() Checking if service:
> 'com.nokia.controlpanel' is watchable
> hn-wm.c:1502,hn_wm_dbus_method_call_handler() Showing Launchbanner...

This is the 'normal' output.
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Re: [maemo-developers] Initiating connections programatically

2006-09-04 Thread Patrik Flykt

Hi,

On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 14:55 -0400, ext D. Scott Brown wrote:
> connection. We've tried using both LIBOSSO and Linux wireless tools  
> without success.

ICd listens on the system bus. I think libosso connects only to the
session bus and/or allows only some messages through from system bus.

> #libosso using python
>   import osso
>   osso_c=osso.Context("wifi","0.0.1",False)
>   ret=osso_c.rpc_run("com.nokia.icd","/com/nokia/ 
> icd","com.nokia.icd","get_ipinfo",wait_reply=True,use_system_bus=True)
> #lend python

Try using the d-bus system bus "natively" from python, not via libosso.

> sbin/ifconfig) it doesn't seem to assign an IP address to the network  

DHCP is started by ICd, so if the wlan script is run only wlan level
stuff is configured. After wlan works, start udhcpc or assign IP
adressess manually.

> Connection Manager, but hide it behind our application's window and  
> somehow send stylus click events to it.

Hiding the osso-connectivity-ui dialogs is going to be hard as they are
system modal.

Hope this helps.

Patrik

-- 
Patrik Flykt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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[maemo-developers] Re: Mortar game for 770

2006-09-04 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi,

On Sat, Sep 02, 2006 at 08:34:48PM +0100, Jonathan Matthews-Levine wrote:
> >I have ported my Mortar (two player artillery) game to 770.
> >
> >You can get the sources and a binary package from here:
> > http://koti.mbnet.fi/tammat/open.shtml#mortar
> 
> Hi Eero -
> 
> Thanks for this: it's installing at the moment :-)
> Just a quick FYI - although I'm sure I'll figure it out while playing,
> your crib sheet doesn't which key actually /fires/ :-)

Thanks, I seem to have forgotten that (it's quite naturally the
navigation thingy middle button).


> Many thanks again - I'll let you know how I get on with it. How would
> you like bug reports/RFEs - by email?

Sounds fine to me!


Btw. I just noticed that the script for making Debian package
doesn't actually put the postinst script to the package (to
update the icon cache), I'll try to update the source and
binary packages evening.


- Eero

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