RE: [maemo-developers] Re: N800 Developer Programme Application

2007-01-12 Thread Jakub.Pavelek
Hi,

You are right about this. One fact is, that release schedule has been a
trade secret - hence no end user roadmap with release dates. What we
could do with this limitation was e.g. Herring. Everyone in the open
have had Herring available for month(s). It was (clearly?) communicated
that this is the stabilization branch towards the next ITOS release.
Anyone could have made sure his application will work the day
Bora/IT-2007 goes public.

Its true Herring did not have it all. Applications and multimedia were
out of scope, user friendliness was not good, yet connectivity and
desktop framework (Hildon, D-Bus, etc.) has been ready and available. I
would hope we will do the same next time, just better ;)

Another thing is the developer program. I'm not too happy with it myself
and I agree we should have at least posted the deadline after which the
notifications are sent. I still hope we will at least announce that the
selection is over.

Br,

--jakub



From: ext Igor Tkach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
I think it is kinda late not because of the need to create 
community (great community already exists). By the time the 
device becomes availble to all you probably want to have most 
important existing apps ported and tested. My impression is 
that this is not the case right now. Some work can be done 
with scratchbox environment, but in my experience it is not 
quite the same as running apps on the device itself.

Program schedule you mention - is it published somewhere and I 
just missed it or is it kept secret? (I apologize for being 
annoying, I'm just eager to get my hands on n800, so I would 
like to know if I should wait for the discount:)

On 1/11/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What's the point to announce such a program so late and with
 so little details? To irritate people? I would like to have my
 discount right now, if I'm eligible, so that I could buy the device 
 right away, or to know that I'm not eligible so that I could plan 
 $399 into my budget for gadgets. At the very least it would be nice 
 to know the time frame for the program.
 
 Hi,

 Announcing it so late (was it the same/next day after the product
 launch?) should not be a problem. Active community members and 
 developers do not need to be created overnight, they 
existed before 
 the developer program was launched. If I understand the program 
 schedule correctly the lucky ones shall get notified rather soon.

 Br,

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[maemo-developers] Re: Translate Canola to your language!

2007-01-12 Thread Oskari 'Okko' Ojala

Hi,


I hope to see your language in next canola! :-)


I can translate Canola to Finnish (fi_FI).

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Re: [maemo-developers] Re: N800 Developer Programme Application

2007-01-12 Thread Frantisek Dufka

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Another thing is the developer program. I'm not too happy with it myself
and I agree we should have at least posted the deadline after which the
notifications are sent. I still hope we will at least announce that the
selection is over.


With the way it is done it may be that it will take a while and there 
may be be more rounds. Some contacted people may already have the 
device, some may not be interested (this is one problem with the 'we 
call you' method). So it would be good to annouce both start and end. It 
would let people know when they should check their spam folders to fish 
the mail out from other, less interesting discounted offers :-) Also 
last time developers from countries where N770 was not sold at all got 
their devices month later and differently (I hope they won't be 
forgotten now too) so the whole process may indeed take a while. The 
best would be some page with counter like 'x devices still available' or 
occasional mail to mailing list telling us how it goes. Thanks.


Frantisek
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Re: [maemo-developers] Re: wxPython

2007-01-12 Thread Dave Cridland

On Fri Jan 12 03:29:58 2007, Jeffrey Barish wrote:

Dave Cridland wrote:

 On Thu Jan 11 16:28:30 2007, Jeffrey Barish wrote:
 Is anyone aware of a port of wxPython to the 770 or 800?
  Before you think seriously about wxPython, I'd recommend
 reconsidering - pygtk is just as good, and better in some areas.
 Given the reduction in the number of layers, I'd assume that 
working

 with pyGTK would be more efficient anyway.
  I'm speaking as someone who's worked heavily with wxPython and
 started using pyGTK specifically for the 770 - I'm free from bias 
in

 that respect.
  Dave.

Nor am I entranced by wxPython, but my application needs to run 
both on a

portable platform and Windows.


So does mine - Polymer has been running on Windows for quite a while, 
as well as on Linux. However, for Telomer, my primary consideration 
was getting the interface right for a handheld, keyboardless 
device, and overall, I think I've probably done more new code than 
porting.


Had wxPython existed, I might well have used that, but I suspect that 
the resultant UI would be (even) worse than it is now.


I'm absolutely not saying Do Not Use wxPython!, but I am saying to 
give the pyGTK option serious consideration - depending on how 
distinct the handheld and Windows UI will end up.


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Re: [maemo-developers] for extras uploaders: new upload queues available

2007-01-12 Thread Aaron Levinson
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007, Ferenc Szekely wrote:

 Hello,
 
 The new upload queues for maemo extras are available. Please update
 your dput.cf configuration file with the following entries:
 
 [mistral-extras]
 login = your_garage_login_name
 fqdn = garage
 method = scp
 hash = md5
 allow_unsigned_uploads = 0
 incoming = /var/www/extras/incoming/mistral
 
 [scirocco-extras]
 login = your_garage_login_name
 fqdn = garage
 method = scp
 hash = md5
 allow_unsigned_uploads = 0
 incoming = /var/www/extras/incoming/scirocco
 
 [bora-extras]
 login = your_garage_login_name
 fqdn = garage
 method = scp
 hash = md5
 allow_unsigned_uploads = 0
 incoming = /var/www/extras/incoming/bora
 
 As you see we have 3 different queues for the three latest maemo releases:
 -bora
 -scirocco
 -mistral
 
 Please make sure to pick the right queue for your upload! E.g.
 uploading a package for bora goes like this:
 dput bora-extras my_great_N800_application_0.1_armel.changes
 
 Implicitly there are new lines now to the /etc/apt/sources.list
 configuration file. These are the following:
 
 #scirocco extras
 deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ scirocco free
 deb-src http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ scirocco free
 
 #bora extras
 deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ bora free
 deb-src http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ bora free
 
 All this is documented at:
 http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ExtrasRepository
 
 
 Please let me know if you have questions, comments or something goes
 wrong with the upload.

I uploaded a new package to mistral-extras, but when I tried to upload the 
same package to scirocco-extras and bora-extras using dput, it complains 
with the following message Already uploaded to garage.  Is it possible 
to upload the same package to multiple repositories?

Thanks,
Aaron

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Re: [maemo-developers] for extras uploaders: new upload queues available

2007-01-12 Thread Aaron Levinson
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007, Aaron Levinson wrote:

 On Fri, 12 Jan 2007, Ferenc Szekely wrote:
 
  Hello,
  
  The new upload queues for maemo extras are available. Please update
  your dput.cf configuration file with the following entries:
  
  [mistral-extras]
  login = your_garage_login_name
  fqdn = garage
  method = scp
  hash = md5
  allow_unsigned_uploads = 0
  incoming = /var/www/extras/incoming/mistral
  
  [scirocco-extras]
  login = your_garage_login_name
  fqdn = garage
  method = scp
  hash = md5
  allow_unsigned_uploads = 0
  incoming = /var/www/extras/incoming/scirocco
  
  [bora-extras]
  login = your_garage_login_name
  fqdn = garage
  method = scp
  hash = md5
  allow_unsigned_uploads = 0
  incoming = /var/www/extras/incoming/bora
  
  As you see we have 3 different queues for the three latest maemo releases:
  -bora
  -scirocco
  -mistral
  
  Please make sure to pick the right queue for your upload! E.g.
  uploading a package for bora goes like this:
  dput bora-extras my_great_N800_application_0.1_armel.changes
  
  Implicitly there are new lines now to the /etc/apt/sources.list
  configuration file. These are the following:
  
  #scirocco extras
  deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ scirocco free
  deb-src http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ scirocco free
  
  #bora extras
  deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ bora free
  deb-src http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ bora free
  
  All this is documented at:
  http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ExtrasRepository
  
  
  Please let me know if you have questions, comments or something goes
  wrong with the upload.
 
 I uploaded a new package to mistral-extras, but when I tried to upload the 
 same package to scirocco-extras and bora-extras using dput, it complains 
 with the following message Already uploaded to garage.  Is it possible 
 to upload the same package to multiple repositories?

Well, I get to answer my own question.  The error message is easy to
correct--just delete the .upload file that was created when the package
was uploaded.

Aaron

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[maemo-developers] Tracking downloads from garage repositories?

2007-01-12 Thread Aaron Levinson
Is there any way to get statistics for downloads from garage repositories?  
It would be nice if said statistics were available from a project's garage 
Web page.  Currently, it only seems possible to get download statistics 
for files downloaded from the garage Web pages for a project.

Thanks,
Aaron

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Re: [maemo-developers] new developer to maemo

2007-01-12 Thread Günter Geiger

 On 1/10/07, Jack Moffitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all,

hi, 

  Also, are there docs somewhere for the audio bits of the API?  Or do I
  need to dig through the source for various maemo apps that use audio?
 

I have been successful using the esd API on the 770. I would be
interested in finding a way to get lower latency though, but I fear it
is not possible, as the esd sound deamon is started hardcoded and I 
don't want to program against a changed root system. 

So, basic esd works. The other option I read is via GStreamer, but I 
haven't tried that.

There are rumours about ALSA support, maybe thats for OS2006 ?

Günter

  Since there seems to be a lot of open source basis here, I'm curious
  why Ogg Vorbis, Speex, and FLAC weren't supported out of the box.
  Seems a strange omission.



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[maemo-developers] Re: Translate Canola to your language!

2007-01-12 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri

On 1/12/07, Oskari 'Okko' Ojala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 I hope to see your language in next canola! :-)

I can translate Canola to Finnish (fi_FI).


Please do :-) Just download the files at our garage.maemo project
page. Are you familiar with gettext/PO translations? If not, just mail
me.


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Re: [maemo-developers] for extras uploaders: new upload queues available

2007-01-12 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Aaron Levinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is it possible to upload the same package to multiple repositories?

As you figured out, it is possible.  But I would argue that it is not
an ideal thing to do.  I think we can get away with it for now since
different releases of the IT OS are best kept completely separate
anyway.

My hope for the future is, however, that we get a single maemo or
even IT OS package name space where there is only one package with a
given name, version and architecture.  That should remove one big
source of confusion and we could get a much better chance of managing
transitions between IT OS releases and back porting and all the
essential things about operating system releases that we are missing.
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Re: [maemo-developers] problem with osso_iap_get_statistics

2007-01-12 Thread Kalle Valo
Fabio Forno [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've got this problem with the ICD (sdk 2.1): if the the AP is
 connected osso_iap_get_statistics works fine; if the AP is
 disconnected the first time call it the callback is not called, but
 after a second call, with an error as result. Any idea about why the
 first time it does't work?

Patrik is changing diapers (ie. on paternity leave), so I'll answer on
behalf of him. 

Most probably it's just a simple bug in osso-ic-lib. The sources for
the library should be available somewhere, you might want to take a
look at that.

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Re: [maemo-developers] for extras uploaders: new upload queues available

2007-01-12 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Aaron Levinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is it possible to upload the same package to multiple repositories?

As you figured out, it is possible.  But I would argue that it is not
an ideal thing to do.  I think we can get away with it for now since
different releases of the IT OS are best kept completely separate
anyway.

My hope for the future is, however, that we get a single maemo or
even IT OS package name space where there is only one package with a
given name, version and architecture.  That should remove one big
source of confusion and we could get a much better chance of managing
transitions between IT OS releases and back porting and all the
essential things about operating system releases that we are missing.
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Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Translate Canola to your language!

2007-01-12 Thread Diego Escalante

Gustavo,

there are some little mistakes in the spanish translation (not worth a patch):

In line 24 of file canola-applet/po/es_ES.po:
the message reads:
 msgstr ¡No se ha podido analizar a colección!
should read:
 msgstr ¡No se ha podido analizar la colección! (note the new 'l')

Also in the file libcanola-plugins-base/po/es_ES.po:
reads:
 msgstr Imagen
should read:
 msgstr Imágen

I hope it's useful.

See ya

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Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Translate Canola to your language!

2007-01-12 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri

On 1/12/07, Diego Escalante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Gustavo,

there are some little mistakes in the spanish translation (not worth a patch):

In line 24 of file canola-applet/po/es_ES.po:
the message reads:
  msgstr ¡No se ha podido analizar a colección!
should read:
  msgstr ¡No se ha podido analizar la colección! (note the new 'l')

Also in the file libcanola-plugins-base/po/es_ES.po:
reads:
  msgstr Imagen
should read:
  msgstr Imágen

I hope it's useful.


I'll fix these.

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[maemo-developers] 770 rebooting

2007-01-12 Thread Kalle Valo
Klaasjan Brand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Also, there are some bugs left in the 770 OS which only Nokia can
 fix (like rebooting every 5 minutes when using WPA for wireless).

I have never heard about these kind of problems and this gets me
really worried, as being a WLAN developer for 770. 

Please, tell me more about this. For example, how often do you see
this? With what kind of setup: AP's make and model, network settings
(especially WPA settings), how crowded radio environment etc.

(I think I should write a wiki page about reporting WLAN problems, I
feel like repeating myself all the time.)

Also try to check /proc/bootreason why it's rebooting. Here's more
info about that:

http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ReportingRebootIssues

We have a lot of different APs and we are _not_ seeing your problem in
our lab. I would need your help to reproduce the problem.

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Re: [maemo-developers] OS2006 roadmap

2007-01-12 Thread Kalle Valo
Laurent MARTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Also, there are some bugs left in the 770 OS which only Nokia can
 fix (like rebooting every 5 minutes when using WPA for wireless)
 Are you serious when saying this? The problem occurs on my N770 but I
 didn't know it was due to WPA. I'm going to disable security (or swap
 to WEP) to see whether things are going better or not...

Did disabling WPA make any difference? I just send some extra
questions to Klaasjan about his problem under subject 770 rebooting.
I would appreciate if you could also answer them.

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Re: [maemo-developers] Java phoneME advanced for the 770

2007-01-12 Thread Dirk Kuijsten
Op Vr, 12 januari, 2007 08:49, schreef Roberto Resoli:
 2007/1/11, Johannes Eickhold [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi list,

 for evaluation purposes I made up a build of Sun's GPL'ed Java phoneME
 Advanced MR1 release. The build only supports the Foundation Profile so
 far.That means there currently is no support for any GUI. From some
 mails on this list and from comments on #maemo I've got the impression
 that there are experienced people who might be interested in hacking on
 this topic and could help to bring more Java to the 770.

 I am one of these persons...


 Feel free to try the simple HelloWorld and the test suite on your Nokia
 770 with a Sun VM :-) that come with the build.

 You can get it from [1]. I roughly described the steps I did to get it
 build and how to install it in [2]. Ongoing discussion about the
 development of phoneME Advanced happens in their forum/mailinglist [3].
 Please join it with questions or suggestions.

 Many thanks for your work, i will try ASAP, along with recent ports of
 GNU Classpath, jamvm and jikes 

 Bye,
 Roberto.



I tried jamvm plus classpath but got the GTK-Peer bug because a library my
app uses draws with Graphics2D. Normal swing sliders/borders and
comboboxes did work though and the application could be closed nicely.
Didn't have top menus of course. I was impressed with the startup speed on
the 770 compared to my pc: not that much slower, although of course no jit
compilation is performed.

I don't know if cairo is available on the N800? If so, someone should try
to configure classpath with --enable-gtk-cairo, which according to my
understanding of this problem should solve the GTK-Peer bug (?)

bye,

Dirk.

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Re: [maemo-developers] Java phoneME advanced for the 770

2007-01-12 Thread Andrew Flegg

On 1/12/07, Dirk Kuijsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I tried jamvm plus classpath but got the GTK-Peer bug because a library
my app uses draws with Graphics2D. Normal swing sliders/borders and
comboboxes did work though and the application could be closed nicely.
Didn't have top menus of course. [...]


I've had some thoughts on auto-Hildonisation of Java apps:

   http://www.bleb.org/software/770/#wip

I think something similar would be possible with Swing, but it's
definitely doable with AWT.


I don't know if cairo is available on the N800? If so, someone should try
to configure classpath with --enable-gtk-cairo, which according to my
understanding of this problem should solve the GTK-Peer bug (?)


I believe Cairo is, so that could be interesting.

Cheers,

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[maemo-developers] Re: OS2006 roadmap

2007-01-12 Thread Zoran Kolic
 How do you specify WPA2+AES? Under the Security method list in  
 connections setup, I've got WPA pre-shared key or WPA with EAP only.

The former.

 Zoran

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[maemo-developers] Re: Maemo Unofficial Debs

2007-01-12 Thread Andrew Flegg

On 1/11/07, Andrew Flegg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 1/11/07, Graham Cobb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In a recent posting to maemo-users Andrew Flegg mentioned his Maemo
 Unofficial Debs project (http://mud-builder.garage.maemo.org/).  What
 is the status of that?


[snip]

Sorry for following up to my own post, but it's just hit a milestone:
autoconf-based tarballs from upstream can be produced into Application
Manager debs automatically...


It can, currently:

   * Fetch sources from a tarball at a URL or a Debian package.
   * Fetch build depedencies (from Debian, building source if necessary)
   * Apply any Maemo patches.
   * ...(1)
   * Build a deb.
   * ...(2)

The two key missing steps at the moment are:

  1) Fix debian/control and some other bits for Maemo Application
 Manager compatibility.


This has now been done (and checked into Subversion); the XML file[1]:

package
   fetch type=tarball

urlhttp://mesh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/netcat/netcat-0.7.1.tar.bz2/url
   /fetch
   deb
iconhttp://netcat.sourceforge.net/favicon.ico/icon
   /deb
/package

...produces the Deb which has been installed here:

  http://www.bleb.org/software/770/netcat2.png

Things like maintainer name, licence (and soon, short/long
descriptions) are worked out automatically unless overriden in the XML
file.

Given this success, I'm going to start on documenting the file format.
As usual, if anyone has any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

Cheers,

Andrew

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https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/packages/netcat2.xml?root=mud-builderview=markup

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Re: [maemo-developers] Java phoneME advanced for the 770

2007-01-12 Thread Luis Montes

Dirk Kuijsten wrote:

Op Vr, 12 januari, 2007 08:49, schreef Roberto Resoli:
  

2007/1/11, Johannes Eickhold [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Hi list,

for evaluation purposes I made up a build of Sun's GPL'ed Java phoneME
Advanced MR1 release. The build only supports the Foundation Profile so
far.That means there currently is no support for any GUI. From some
mails on this list and from comments on #maemo I've got the impression
that there are experienced people who might be interested in hacking on
this topic and could help to bring more Java to the 770.
  

I am one of these persons...



Feel free to try the simple HelloWorld and the test suite on your Nokia
770 with a Sun VM :-) that come with the build.

You can get it from [1]. I roughly described the steps I did to get it
build and how to install it in [2]. Ongoing discussion about the
development of phoneME Advanced happens in their forum/mailinglist [3].
Please join it with questions or suggestions.
  

Many thanks for your work, i will try ASAP, along with recent ports of
GNU Classpath, jamvm and jikes 

Bye,
Roberto.





I tried jamvm plus classpath but got the GTK-Peer bug because a library my
app uses draws with Graphics2D. Normal swing sliders/borders and
comboboxes did work though and the application could be closed nicely.
Didn't have top menus of course. I was impressed with the startup speed on
the 770 compared to my pc: not that much slower, although of course no jit
compilation is performed.

I don't know if cairo is available on the N800? If so, someone should try
to configure classpath with --enable-gtk-cairo, which according to my
understanding of this problem should solve the GTK-Peer bug (?)

bye,

Dirk.

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Not sure yet what parts are missing to get graphical stuff working , but 
maybe Midpath ( http://midpath.thenesis.org  ) can fill in some gaps?


Luis
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Re: [maemo-developers] Tracking downloads from garage repositories?

2007-01-12 Thread Levi Bard

Is there any way to get statistics for downloads from garage repositories?
It would be nice if said statistics were available from a project's garage
Web page.  Currently, it only seems possible to get download statistics
for files downloaded from the garage Web pages for a project.


I'd like to second this request.  Since my apps were added to the
extras repo, my garage downloads have dropped significantly.

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Re: [maemo-developers] new developer to maemo

2007-01-12 Thread Levi Bard

I have been successful using the esd API on the 770. I would be
interested in finding a way to get lower latency though, but I fear it
is not possible, as the esd sound deamon is started hardcoded and I
don't want to program against a changed root system.

So, basic esd works. The other option I read is via GStreamer, but I
haven't tried that.


I've had this issue with esd as well.  For raw audio (no decoding),
gstreamer (subjectively) gives even higher latency than esd for me.
:-/

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[maemo-developers] Re: Translate Canola to your language!

2007-01-12 Thread Jaime Ruiz Frontera

 Also in the file libcanola-plugins-base/po/es_ES.po:
 reads:
   msgstr Imagen
 should read:
   msgstr Imágen

Wrong!
Imagen was correct. If you are unsure please check http://www.rae.es/
Plural is Imágenes

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[maemo-developers] N770 IT2006: Where to find account configuration file

2007-01-12 Thread Alexis Rondeau

Hi there,

I hope this is the right mailinglist to post to with my problem,
please let me know if there is a more suitable one.

I have this project where I want to reset certain settings with every
reboot of the device. I am running IT2006.

Specifically I want to remove the IM/gtalk/email accounts via a
script. Manually it is obvious (just press 'remove' in the device
manager) but I need to know the location of the actual config file. It
is surprisingly (to me) not located in ~/.

Also, where can I find the file that stores the last 5 searches of the
Search Applet located on the desktop?

I've been scanning my N770 for hours trying to find those two files.

Thank you for any help with this! I just started working with it this
week but am already hooked :)

Best wishes,

Alexis


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Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Translate Canola to your language!

2007-01-12 Thread Álvaro J. Iradier

Sorry for the first one, a typo, thanks for noticing :)

About the second one, Imagen (without tilde) is correct, as someone
already pointed.

Greets

On 1/12/07, Diego Escalante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Gustavo,

there are some little mistakes in the spanish translation (not worth a patch):

In line 24 of file canola-applet/po/es_ES.po:
the message reads:
  msgstr ¡No se ha podido analizar a colección!
should read:
  msgstr ¡No se ha podido analizar la colección! (note the new 'l')

Also in the file libcanola-plugins-base/po/es_ES.po:
reads:
  msgstr Imagen
should read:
  msgstr Imágen

I hope it's useful.

See ya

Diego

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Re: [maemo-developers] N770 IT2006: Where to find account configuration file

2007-01-12 Thread Frantisek Dufka

Alexis Rondeau wrote:

Specifically I want to remove the IM/gtalk/email accounts via a
script. Manually it is obvious (just press 'remove' in the device
manager) but I need to know the location of the actual config file. It
is surprisingly (to me) not located in ~/.

Also, where can I find the file that stores the last 5 searches of the
Search Applet located on the desktop?

I've been scanning my N770 for hours trying to find those two files.


Just a blind shot but did you search GConf confuguration (similar to 
system registry on MS Windows)?


Try gconftool -R / on the device and search the output. You can remove 
entries with gconftool too. Or maybe you can even delete stored XML 
files directly - check /etc/gconf/2/path file for details.


Frantisek
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[maemo-developers] Re: N770 IT2006: Where to find account configuration file

2007-01-12 Thread Ross Burton
On Fri, 2007-01-12 at 16:27 +0100, Frantisek Dufka wrote:
 Try gconftool -R / on the device and search the output. You can remove 
 entries with gconftool too. Or maybe you can even delete stored XML 
 files directly - check /etc/gconf/2/path file for details.

Don't delete the entries off disk -- they are stored in memory and will
be rewritten.  Always use the API unless you know for sure that the
daemon isn't running.

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Re: [maemo-developers] 770 rebooting

2007-01-12 Thread Kalle Valo
ext Kalle Valo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Also, there are some bugs left in the 770 OS which only Nokia can
 fix (like rebooting every 5 minutes when using WPA for wireless).

 I have never heard about these kind of problems and this gets me
 really worried, as being a WLAN developer for 770. 

 Please, tell me more about this.

Klaasjan pointed me to bug #820 in a private mail:

https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=820

If someone else is also seeing similar crashes with WPA, please report
to that bug. Thanks.

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[maemo-developers] kernel modules

2007-01-12 Thread Zoran Kolic
I'd like to know if nokia or someone else has repository for modules,
rest after kompiling the kernel for os versions?
Since the choice of stuff must to stay inside ~64Mb, I'm sure that
a lot of it has left aside. Now, when OS2006 goes to no-man-land, it
would be nice to have compatible modules for something one will want
for a month or two, without bricking the device, as a few people done
recompiling the kernel and needed modules.
I'm sure that not a box should go in the wild naked, without firewall.
Reduced options for iptables on 2.2006.39-14 with living binary make
me believe it could be up and well. Just a module or two and detailed
manual what is there and what is missing. Native debian credo (save...)
is not a way on 770. If you try to desinstall iptables, you can't. It
has a mission. So, one who put it in the base could answer and add
parts to the system.
Not every person wants party on 770. Some wish libraries, till it's
not over.

   Zoran


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Re: [maemo-developers] N770 IT2006: Where to find account configuration file

2007-01-12 Thread Alexis Rondeau

On 1/12/07, Frantisek Dufka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Alexis Rondeau wrote:
 Specifically I want to remove the IM/gtalk/email accounts via a
 script. Manually it is obvious (just press 'remove' in the device
 manager) but I need to know the location of the actual config file. It
 is surprisingly (to me) not located in ~/.

 Also, where can I find the file that stores the last 5 searches of the
 Search Applet located on the desktop?

 I've been scanning my N770 for hours trying to find those two files.

Just a blind shot but did you search GConf confuguration (similar to
system registry on MS Windows)?

Try gconftool -R / on the device and search the output. You can remove
entries with gconftool too. Or maybe you can even delete stored XML
files directly - check /etc/gconf/2/path file for details.

Frantisek



Hi Frantisek,

thank you for your fast reply!

I was not aware of gconf and gconftool -R / yields a lot of
configurations (for example my Gizmo Project account settings) but I
could not find the settings (or a reference to them) of the IM/gtalk
accounts. But I will look deeper into it to verify, but if you have
another pointer, I'm more than greatful!

On the other hand, I at least found the last 5 searches of the Search
Applet: located at /home/user/.osso/mis/internet-search-applet.xml

Best,

Alexis
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Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Translate Canola to your language!

2007-01-12 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri

On 1/12/07, Álvaro J. Iradier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sorry for the first one, a typo, thanks for noticing :)

About the second one, Imagen (without tilde) is correct, as someone
already pointed


I already changed to Diego, should I revert Imágen to Imagen?


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RE: [maemo-developers] Re: N800 Developer Programme Application

2007-01-12 Thread Dave Cridland

On Fri Jan 12 08:37:08 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

You are right about this. One fact is, that release schedule has 
been a

trade secret - hence no end user roadmap with release dates.


Yes, but I think you (or rather Nokia) is falling into the trap of 
closely coupling software and hardware. Some of the N800's, from what 
I'm reading via IRC, shipped with one version of software, others 
shipped with a later version. The 770 was the same over a longer 
period.


I think if Nokia made more releases [and not all of them need be 
stable], the connection between software and hardware would be 
reduced, and the hardware releases would require less synchronization 
with software work. Competitors would be able to gain less 
information from the software changes, because they'd not be able to 
detirmine if they related to a new device or not. You'd also make the 
gadget folk and the developer community much happier.


Of course there are exceptions - webcams, different CPUs, etc all 
have software impact - but fundamentally these are (or ought to be) 
low-level features and specific apps. And equally, there's the issue 
of your third party closed app licenses, such as Opera, but that's 
realtively simple to tie into hardware releases, and who knows, maybe 
the orphaning of 770's wrt new Opera might cause a surge of 
development on open source alternatives.



Anyone could have made sure his application will work the day
Bora/IT-2007 goes public.


True, but for the most part Bora could have gone public completely 
independently of the N800 release. By tying the hardware and software 
together so closely, Nokia is forced to keep software details rather 
more secret.


Another thing is the developer program. I'm not too happy with it 
myself
and I agree we should have at least posted the deadline after which 
the
notifications are sent. I still hope we will at least announce that 
the

selection is over.


One of the major problems is that details are slipping out 
unofficially, and the entire community seems to be carefully 
interpreting every word anyone connected with Nokia says, in the hope 
of gleaning some information from it. In this case, your last 
sentence does not use the subjunctive, and furthermore uses the word 
that, which has been seen by some to imply that the selection is 
over.


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Re: [maemo-developers] Tracking downloads from garage repositories?

2007-01-12 Thread Neil Jerram
Levi Bard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is there any way to get statistics for downloads from garage repositories?
 It would be nice if said statistics were available from a project's garage
 Web page.  Currently, it only seems possible to get download statistics
 for files downloaded from the garage Web pages for a project.

 I'd like to second this request.  Since my apps were added to the
 extras repo, my garage downloads have dropped significantly.

+1

Although I note that currently there isn't any formal link between
an extras upload and the associated garage project, is there?

I guess to make such a link, we'd need to specify that people add a
header to the control file of the packages that they create (or one of
the other uploaded files), to specify the garage project name.

If we did this, it would also be possible to make all the uploaded
files appear automatically on the project's download page, which would
be very nice.

Sounds a bit non-trivial, though, and I'm sure sorting out the support
for multiple revs of Maemo is more important right now.

Regards,
 Neil

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Re: [maemo-developers] developing for 770 with IT2006 on Debian testing with 2.6.18 kernel

2007-01-12 Thread Patrick Ohly
On Fri, 2007-01-12 at 21:51 +0100, Patrick Ohly wrote:
 Will there be an update for the IT2006 SDK for a scratchbox release that
 works with this kernel?

Duh, replying to myself: I now found the hint about Maemo 2.2 in [1]. So
hopefully I'll have a working SDK again soonish...

[1] http://www.maemo.org/downloads/maemo_3_compatibility.html

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[maemo-developers] Flashing the N800 with MacOS

2007-01-12 Thread Andy Gill

Does anyone know if flasher 2.0 works with the N800,
or when flasher 3.0 will be released for the MacOS?

AndyG

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Re: [maemo-developers] problem with osso_iap_get_statistics

2007-01-12 Thread Fabio Forno

On 1/12/07, Kalle Valo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Fabio Forno [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Most probably it's just a simple bug in osso-ic-lib. The sources for
the library should be available somewhere, you might want to take a
look at that.


my problem is to find where, I can get the headers but not the
sources, neither in the subversion repositoy

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