[maemo-developers] Re: MMH project started
After reading some documentation, I've found ready solution for those, who use mutt. App called msmtp is available for sending mail to smtp server. If queue is needed, msmtpqueue scripting method could solve the issue. To use it, in .muttrc should be added line to what binary to send. (Default is /usr/sbin/sendmail.) For unencrypted pop at port 110, the fastest fetcher is by no doubt perl script "pop-perl5". All those enables low footprint, for on and off line. Zoran ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Hildon Input Method
Hi, If I can install him-puglins-sdk-esample binary to N800, is the original input method replaced totally? Or is it possible to specify the language name? N800's input method supports two languages, actually I set US as 1st lang. So I'm wondering if the plugin works as 2nd lang. But I just modified the sample code and installed to scratchbox, the input method is relaced to new one. Maemo 3.0 does not support selecting 2nd lang from the menu of the input method. So I'm afraid the plugin is not "just plugin", it replaces the original one completly. Is it correct? - Kimitake Abe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kimitake.blogdns.net/kimihome.php ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Media Streamer: Object Not Found
> fuppes seems to work well as a upnp av media server with the n800 > although the N800 does seem to stop in the middle of some videos, not sure > where the problem lies though. > > Hmm...I can't even get the N800 to find my fuppes server. gmediaserver works fine tho. This is on Ubuntu 6.10 with version 0.7.1 of fuppes. It compiled fine. Jae ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Visual Boy Advance on the N800
On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 13:39 -0600, Levi Bard wrote: > > I tried Visual Boy Advance on the N800 and the hardware keys seem to not > > work. Have the key mappings for SDL changed from the 770 to the N800 or > > is something else wrong? > > AFAIK there were no key mapping changes - I gave it a spin on the N800 > last night, and was able to run Zelda(too slowly) and Advance Wars. > > What version of VBA do you have? What game(s) are you using? I have the version available from the Maemo 'bora' repositories. I think it is 1.7.2maemo(something). However, it seems that it was a window focus issue or some such. I seem to have solved it by tapping on the screen to focus the SDL window. User error, I imagine. >.< -- Andrew Barr | http://www.pridelands.dyndns.org/ panthera leo anthro "My life is an open book, but I'm not going to read it to you." -- David Hyde Pierce ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Re: [maemo-users] Office Application
On 2/9/07, Mathias Uebelacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, googles new service, google spreadsheet/write offer a office application which can be used online. There is a API Documentation for developer. Maybe usefull to create a offline application. br Mathias ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users Hi all, I'm really new, just got mine yesterday but have been reading the user and developer emails for a while. Actually I was just thinking today an app to view power point and/or open office slide shows would be really useful. Has anyone looked into doing something like this. Once I get familiar with the device I do plan on doing some coding. Lots of possible apps have been coming to mind but I think something like this would be really useful. -- -- Aaron Westerdale ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] right point to mount external partitions
I'm trying to understand the best place to mount SDs partitions. Right now I have === chroot /mnt/initfs/ /usr/bin/retutime -i || true mount /dev/mmcblk1p1 /media/mmc1 mount /dev/mmcblk0p2 /media/mmc3 mount -o bind /media/mmc3/user /home/user hostname -F /etc/hostname but (only sometimes, and randomly) /home/user won't be mounted. So, my question is: has anyone found the *right* first good place to mount external partitions in order to have them mounted as soon as possible during boot phase? Thank you. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Turning on bluetooth
I am using the Opensync SyncML plugin to synchronise between GPE and my phone. This is using bluetooth and, in order to make it work, I have to issue the command: sudo hciconfig hci0 up before running the sync. Is there some way I can do that from within the program (for example a Dbus message)? Graham P.S. Anyone else in Barcelona next week? Might be interesting to put faces to some of the names on this list! ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Do you want to install as many applications as you like?
Ola, > I really don't think that's a bugzilla worthy bug. Ok, I was just following the guidelines here: https://maemo.org/community/getting-involved.html#Documentation+bugs+and+patches However for wiki pages i agree some form of common style guidelines would probably be better.I have changed the status of the bug to invalid and added a note about style guidelines instead onto http://maemo.org/maemowiki/DocumentationWanted > Are we really having this conversation on both lists!?! This seems more like > a meamo-users conversation than a maemo-developers conversation I dunno, this depends on whether real devs read documentation or not, no? ;) []'s Ian -- .''`. : :' : `. `'` `- Orgulhoso ser MetaRecicleiro http://manaus.metareciclagem.org/ http://estudiolivre.org/el-gallery_view.php?arquivoId=2804 ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Re: radio?!
On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 15:01 +, David Weinehall wrote: > > Any idea if the hardware allows to play radio from built-in speakers ? > > I could just listen to hizzz till I plug in headphones. > > Well, the hardware probably allows it in theory, but in practise you > won't be able to, since you'll need an antenna (the headphones acts as > antennas), and there is no built in antenna for the radio in the device. There's a button in the fmradio UI to switch sound from headphone to speaker. Laurent ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Newbie Question
On 2/9/07, Marius Gedminas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 04:42:42PM -0500, Matalon, Michael wrote: > SR TECHNOLOGIES, INC PROPRIETARY INFORMATION: > Proprietary information owned by SR Technologies, Inc that require protection from unauthorized disclosure. This is the most obnoxious whatever-it-is I've ever seen. Not going to read the rest. I'm sure his corporate e-mail server adds that automagically. Lots of companies do that and the users have no control, though usually they're at the end of the message. Pretty sure they don't hold up in court anyway... -- F U cn rd dis U mst uz Unix. I cn rd dat, bt I uz Lnx. M I spshl? --Paul ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Newbie Question
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 04:42:42PM -0500, Matalon, Michael wrote: > SR TECHNOLOGIES, INC PROPRIETARY INFORMATION: > Proprietary information owned by SR Technologies, Inc that require protection > from unauthorized disclosure. This is the most obnoxious whatever-it-is I've ever seen. Not going to read the rest. Have a nice day, Marius Gedminas -- F U cn rd dis U mst uz Unix. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Visual Boy Advance on the N800
I tried Visual Boy Advance on the N800 and the hardware keys seem to not work. Have the key mappings for SDL changed from the 770 to the N800 or is something else wrong? AFAIK there were no key mapping changes - I gave it a spin on the N800 last night, and was able to run Zelda(too slowly) and Advance Wars. What version of VBA do you have? What game(s) are you using? -- It doesn't take a nukular scientist to pronounce foilage! --Marge Simpson http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.html ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Visual Boy Advance on the N800
Hi, I tried Visual Boy Advance on the N800 and the hardware keys seem to not work. Have the key mappings for SDL changed from the 770 to the N800 or is something else wrong? Thanks, -- Andrew Barr "My life is an open book, but I'm not going to read it to you." -- David Hyde Pierce ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Do you want to install as many applications as you like?
On 2/9/07, Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have registered this as a documentation bug on bugzilla as: https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1042 it also links in to: https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=770 where it seems that some tutorial code will not compile, so has obviously therefore *not* been tested. []'s Ian I really don't think that's a bugzilla worthy bug. Wiki pages are community editable and are far from official documentation. An error in the device help files would go on Bugzilla, complaints about the wiki should not. Are we really having this conversation on both lists!?! This seems more like a meamo-users conversation than a maemo-developers conversation as it really has nothing to do with the development of the OS. Let's stop replying to the dev-list with this thread. --Paul ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Do you want to install as many applications as you like?
Hi, > I have appreciated a lot the line he used in every document edited: > > "This procedure has been tested on a Nokia 770 with ITOS 3.2006.49-2" > > This type of statement is something I miss from other wiki pages or maemo > tutorials on web, where discovering that the stuff used by the author is > not the same of the user is left to the user himself, sometimes with not > so nice effects. I have registered this as a documentation bug on bugzilla as: https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1042 it also links in to: https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=770 where it seems that some tutorial code will not compile, so has obviously therefore *not* been tested. []'s Ian -- .''`. : :' : `. `'` `- Orgulhoso ser MetaRecicleiro http://manaus.metareciclagem.org/ http://estudiolivre.org/el-gallery_view.php?arquivoId=2804 ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Office Application
Hello, googles new service, google spreadsheet/write offer a office application which can be used online. There is a API Documentation for developer. Maybe usefull to create a offline application. br Mathias ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Do you want to install as many applications as you like?
This is something I was waiting for, the previous documentation was incomplete/fragmented/not-updated; this Sebas' howto is a very good example of howto writing. I've been able to follow it without any worry and everything works very well. I have appreciated a lot the line he used in every document edited: "This procedure has been tested on a Nokia 770 with ITOS 3.2006.49-2" This type of statement is something I miss from other wiki pages or maemo tutorials on web, where discovering that the stuff used by the author is not the same of the user is left to the user himself, sometimes with not so nice effects. This is especially true in this Maemo world, where there are already two different hardware systems (770 and N800) and each one has different versions of OS, with somehow confusing names, and using one instead of another one usually is not the same. Of course, this has nothing to do with quality of the wiki pages, and of the authors: I've benefited from them a lot, many are very well written and useful, and as a linux newbie I wouldn't have gone so far without them. I really love the work that wiki authors have done, or blog owners, etc. But I just want to underline the need of specifying *ALWAYS* the hardware used for testing (770? N800? ...next model?) and the OS version installed: this would simplify the path and avoid potential problems derived from possible incompatibilities. Hope this message is visible hidden in this thread - btw feel free to spread the pray! :) -- Antonio ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] How to change font
On 2/9/07, wolfg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2007/2/9, mayank jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > m17n-db can be plugged right into SCIM using scim-m17n packages. & > once this is available on maemo, indic languages also can see light of > the day sometime soon :) I know a little about m17n-db. Can it help to solve this Asian languages input problem on N770/800? SCIM does uses m17n-db to input asian languages (Thai, indic, etc) on desktop - but how can it be scaled to a device like N800 would be an interesting question. The main problem is that desktops have an external keyboard attached - for which (in most cases of m17n-db), there is a 1-1 mapping of keys (simple keymaps). But when it comes to Hildon, we have to see how the keymaps can be displayed on the popup keyboard, how complex input sequences can be inputed using the popup keyboard & etc. If you are curious on how a keymap looks like, have a look at /usr/share/m17n directory if you have m17n-db package installed. Otherwise, please head to www.m17n.org website. I'm still waiting to get my N800 & this will be my first porting project. Thanks, Makuchaku ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] How to change font
Hi, 2007/2/9, Antti Ijäs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Better yet, port SCIM to Maemo. That would be really interesting and it shouldn't be that hard to do. / Antti I think a virtual keyboard / handwriting working with SCIM should be made if replaced Hildon input method with SCIM. Am I right? 2007/2/9, mayank jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> m17n-db can be plugged right into SCIM using scim-m17n packages. & once this is available on maemo, indic languages also can see light of the day sometime soon :) Hope is a very powerfull tool :) I know a little about m17n-db. Can it help to solve this Asian languages input problem on N770/800? Thanks. -- wolfg ___ http://guoyong.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Division by zero in kernel.
On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 05:23:42PM +0200, ext Kalle Valo wrote: > Sometimes my MUA (Gnus) shows [EMAIL PROTECTED] in > the from field and I don't know who the actual sender was, like in > this case, and it's really annoying. Is it just my setup, or is anyone > else seeing the same behaviour? It's the Nokia Exchange server that's broken (surprise surprise). IIRC, the main time this happens is when it strips internal information from the From header of outgoing mail; it then goes out to maemo.org, comes back to the same server, and then it doesn't realise it's a valid From line (you know, the From line it created), and puts the Sender in instead ... To the outside world, it's fine, though. :) Cheers, Daniel signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] GDK_EXTENSION_EVENTS - toolbar?
Hi, Disabling GDK_POINTER_MOTION_HINT_MASK (using motion masks instead) fixed my problem, though now there's another issue which i'm trying to get a handle on. After moving the drawingarea widget around (toggle fullscreen, move the hpaned, that kind of thing) the "first event" has wrong coordinates. like this: ---snip--- motionnotify on (190, 120) motionnotify on (190, 120) (i lift the stylus up, toggle fullscreen, hit the drawingarea with the stylus again) motionnotify on (-7, 241) buttonpress on (-7, 241) motionnotify on (80, 300) motionnotify on (79, 300) ---snip--- obviously -7, 241 is the wrong coordinate pair. the buttonpress+motionnotify then leads to a line being drawn. they're not always negative / out of bounds so there's no sane way to check them. maybe one could hook widget-repositions and then set a flag to ignore the next two xevents, but that's not a good solution. On 2/9/07, Tommi Komulainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 14:46 +0200, ext Kemal Hadimli wrote: > Hello, > > I was playing around with ExtensionEvents (for the pressure data) when > I noticed something weird, sometimes my window (erm, widget) receives > some buttonpressevents where it shouldn't. There is something strange happening in some cases when extension events are enabled, there's one bug[1] open in (maemo) bugzilla about that. Unfortunately we only have a description of the bug without useful test case. I'm fairly certain this is upstream bug but I haven't yet reported it to upstream because of the lack of decent test case. 1. https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=908 -- Kemal ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Correct directory for dbus service files
2007/2/9, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I have been looking at Debian packaging based around the tutorial example application maemopad. The source code bundle maemopad-1.5.tar.gz seems to be at Maemo-2.0 (?) and building a Debian package for it places the dbus service file com.nokia.maemopad.service in Directory /usr/share/dbus-1/services. However when I look at the Maemo-2.2 tutorial the maemopad places is dbus service file in directory /usr/lib/dbus-1.0/services. Is this simply a detail that has changed between different releases ? Or is it just That maemopad-1.5.tar.gz has not been updated since Maemo-2.0 ? Thanks Graeme ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers /usr/share/dbus-1/services works for me on both mistral/scirocco (Maemo 2.x) and bora (Maemo 3.0) too, so I assume it's the correct place! Luca Donaggio ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Re: busybox, sh and $HOME
Zoran Kolic wrote: >> That was what I did first. But then I noticed the "odd" beahviour ($HOME >> always pointing to /home/user, instead of what stated in /etc/passwd). > > Maybe you should change $HOME for your shell. Variable is the old one. I'm not exactly a newbie ;) I'd be *happy* to do that... BUT... where? Since xterm will "prevent" .profile from being used? ;) > >> I understand that xterm is not a login shell, that's fine, but *why* not >> handling the correct $HOME? This sounds kinda strange to me. > > Xterm is app. Shell is invoked from it. Yes, the *point* is that xterm starts a non login session ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Correct directory for dbus service files
I have been looking at Debian packaging based around the tutorial example application maemopad. The source code bundle maemopad-1.5.tar.gz seems to be at Maemo-2.0 (?) and building a Debian package for it places the dbus service file com.nokia.maemopad.service in Directory /usr/share/dbus-1/services. However when I look at the Maemo-2.2 tutorial the maemopad places is dbus service file in directory /usr/lib/dbus-1.0/services. Is this simply a detail that has changed between different releases ? Or is it just That maemopad-1.5.tar.gz has not been updated since Maemo-2.0 ? Thanks Graeme ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Re: busybox, sh and $HOME
> That was what I did first. But then I noticed the "odd" beahviour ($HOME > always pointing to /home/user, instead of what stated in /etc/passwd). Maybe you should change $HOME for your shell. Variable is the old one. > I understand that xterm is not a login shell, that's fine, but *why* not > handling the correct $HOME? This sounds kinda strange to me. Xterm is app. Shell is invoked from it. Zoran ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Division by zero in kernel.
"ext [EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I was looking around my device and found this... > [...] > [ 31.705535] Division by zero in kernel. > [ 31.705596] [] (dump_stack+0x0/0x14) from [] > (__div0+0x18/0x20) > [ 31.705688] [] (__div0+0x0/0x20) from [] > (Ldiv0+0x8/0x10) > [ 31.705780] [] (pdlp_lmac_second_callback+0x0/0xe8 [umac]) from > [] (fw_ctrl_accept+0x60/0xe8 [umac]) > [ 31.706481] r8 = C6052000 r7 = C7A02800 r6 = r5 = C6052000 > [ 31.706542] r4 = C5F99CA0 I'm aware of this and we are trying to solve it. But thanks for reporting it. Sometimes my MUA (Gnus) shows [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the from field and I don't know who the actual sender was, like in this case, and it's really annoying. Is it just my setup, or is anyone else seeing the same behaviour? -- Kalle Valo ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Re: MMH project started
> I have read on the fetchmail site that it can use an MDA to deliver > locally, skipping port 25. I do not want to use any daemon on port 25 to > deliver locally. As I remember, it looks for something on port 25 to hand on the packets. Either postfix or procmail or maildrop. I never succeed standalone. > nmh will 'incorporate' mails from the mbox spool file. It comes from an > era where your mail would arrive in the /var/spool/mail/ inbox. I live it that era. Where else mail should go? > Incorporate mails, in nmh, means it'll read the single mbox file and > split the mails each in its own file in the MH folders in the user home > directory. The command line 'inc' just does this. Hm! I must read manual carefully. I want mail to be in single mbox file. If has to be split, no temporary file in the middle. (I don't have back up of old letters. I live for today. ;-) ) > It can be used together with 'slocal' (another nmh tool) to filter them > before going into the destination folder (and take some action too if > configured accordingly). No daemon, I hope? > My idea is to let nmh handle the mails and the UI just needs to show > them (and execute the tools). Looks like shell script. > Handling. It takes care of the proper RFCs for me in replying, composing > and MIME handling too. What mua? Previously I tried to replace sendmail this way. Finaly, I found postfix. It daemons, which is no-no on 770. There is little "mpack" for mime handling. It is fun to write the mail in ascii file and put to smtp sender. Cannot explain why. > selling my 770 to a friend. Is 800 realy better for command line tasks? > I will test the MMH suite on both. I could sit and wait then? OK. I have external hdd now and enclosure. Gonna wait a little for debian 4.0. (Lazy me, thats it!) The very first thing should be to compile modules for statefull firewall. It probably wants swap. If memory profile enables moving parts, even Marius' idea of postfix could be possible. But, rather nmh, since I don't have it or use it. Reading docs would be pleasure. Who wants things that work just like that? Zoran ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] GDK_EXTENSION_EVENTS - toolbar?
On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 14:46 +0200, ext Kemal Hadimli wrote: > Hello, > > I was playing around with ExtensionEvents (for the pressure data) when > I noticed something weird, sometimes my window (erm, widget) receives > some buttonpressevents where it shouldn't. There is something strange happening in some cases when extension events are enabled, there's one bug[1] open in (maemo) bugzilla about that. Unfortunately we only have a description of the bug without useful test case. I'm fairly certain this is upstream bug but I haven't yet reported it to upstream because of the lack of decent test case. 1. https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=908 -- Tommi Komulainen<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] busybox, sh and $HOME
Brian Waite wrote: > On Friday 09 February 2007 07:43, william maddler wrote: >> Laurent MARTIN wrote: I really have no idea... and looks like it doesn't look at .profile >>> I've noticed this too on my N800 (see earlier posts on users list): for >>> what I've understood, this is due to the fact that you run ash not bash >>> nor sh. What it strange is that .profile is run when connecting on the >>> N800 through SSH. >> Right, maybe something "wrong" in how x-term invokes shell? >> > > Xterm does not, by default execute you profile ever, it is not a login shell. > On normal xterm you need to run with the option of +ls to make the xterm a > login shell. I imagine this is your problem. You could always > change /etc/passwd to point your home directory to /mnt/mmc. That was what I did first. But then I noticed the "odd" beahviour ($HOME always pointing to /home/user, instead of what stated in /etc/passwd). I understand that xterm is not a login shell, that's fine, but *why* not handling the correct $HOME? This sounds kinda strange to me. > Or better yet > just mount the mmc card onto /home/user! This gives you the benefit that if > the card is not found (ie removed) your settings will be lost but at least > you can still run apps because /home/user is the original version. yes, that'w what I'm doing right now. mount -o bind /media/mmc3/user /home/user Before mounting /home/user only contains data strictly needed for boot (still investigating to find them). Thanx ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] busybox, sh and $HOME
Xterm does not, by default execute you profile ever, it is not a login shell. On normal xterm you need to run with the option of +ls to make the xterm a login shell. How can I do that? Any help welcome! -- Laurent, Nantes - France Apple PowerBook 12" Treo 650 (unlocked GSM) Nokia Internet Tablet N800 ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] busybox, sh and $HOME
On Friday 09 February 2007 07:43, william maddler wrote: > Laurent MARTIN wrote: > >> I really have no idea... and looks like it doesn't look at .profile > > > > I've noticed this too on my N800 (see earlier posts on users list): for > > what I've understood, this is due to the fact that you run ash not bash > > nor sh. What it strange is that .profile is run when connecting on the > > N800 through SSH. > > Right, maybe something "wrong" in how x-term invokes shell? > Xterm does not, by default execute you profile ever, it is not a login shell. On normal xterm you need to run with the option of +ls to make the xterm a login shell. I imagine this is your problem. You could always change /etc/passwd to point your home directory to /mnt/mmc. Or better yet just mount the mmc card onto /home/user! This gives you the benefit that if the card is not found (ie removed) your settings will be lost but at least you can still run apps because /home/user is the original version. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] GDK_EXTENSION_EVENTS - toolbar?
Hello, I was playing around with ExtensionEvents (for the pressure data) when I noticed something weird, sometimes my window (erm, widget) receives some buttonpressevents where it shouldn't. The layout is like this: (the app is maemopadplus(.garage.maemo.org), btw) DRAWINGAREA DRAWINGAREA DRAWINGAREA ==TOOLBAR=== now, when I click a specific button on the toolbar, a menu pops up. then I select an item on the popup, it closes back. the popup overlaps some of the drawing area when open. after clicking on the toolbarbutton, my drawingarea receives a buttonpressevent, at the exact position where the button is?! it's also weird because it's not possible for the DA to receive that event, because the coordinates are off, the drawingarea is inside a viewport(scrolledwindow) and the toolbar overlaps that position(=where the event is received) I get this behavior about one third of the time. any ideas? anything I might be missing? this doesn't happen if I don't enable extensionevents. (bora) (I don't really feel like sending this to one of the gtk lists right now btw) -- Kemal ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] busybox, sh and $HOME
Laurent MARTIN wrote: >> I really have no idea... and looks like it doesn't look at .profile > I've noticed this too on my N800 (see earlier posts on users list): for > what I've understood, this is due to the fact that you run ash not bash > nor sh. What it strange is that .profile is run when connecting on the > N800 through SSH. Right, maybe something "wrong" in how x-term invokes shell? ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Ogg Vorbis and the N800 - Theora
Hi !
> > If it is possible to let the tremor plugin do the audiodecoding, what
> > would be the right gst-lanuch string?
Changing vorbisdec for tremor in that line doesnt work because tremor
expects application/ogg and vorbisdec expects audio/x-vorbis. So, the
line below doesnt work...
Gst gurus ? =P
gst-launch-0.10 gnomevfssrc location=http://localhost:8080 ! oggdemux
name=demuxer ! {queue ! theoradec ! xvimagesink} {demuxer.! queue !
tremor ! audioconvert ! dsppcmsink}
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Re: [maemo-developers] Porting Qt to Maemo
ext antikristian wrote: > I realize the advantage of having a full blown qt impementation to run > qt-apps in maemo, Bu wouldn't this be doing something that has > allready been done before; Porting qt to handheld devices? Is it > possible to uuse qtopia somehow? maybe run qtopia apps ontop of maemo? > Is there anything we can use from the qtopia project? > Qtopia works over Qt/e ( Qt-embedded ), that renders directly to the frame buffer and can't co-exist with maemo and all other maemo apps . Maemo uses X11 as Linux desktop and in this case you need to use real QT and not Qt/e So, if you use qtopia, you will loose all of your maemo apps and least to me this is completelly unacceptable. I actually did my port just to get one qtopia application ( cumulus aviation map software ) to work with 770. I just have very small qtopia emulation layer, there is no need for 99% of qtopia services in maemo because they just implements same things than maemo and much incompatible way. Kate > > > > > On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 12:26:35 +0100, Kate Alhola > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> ext Andrea Grandi wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> today I did a little test with Qt and Maemo 2.2 SDK. I recompiled Qt >>> 4.2.2 into the Scratchbox with maemo 2.2 installed and I was able to >>> run a little Qt-HelloWorld inside the "emulator". >>> >>> I wonder if it would be possible to realize a real port of Qt into >>> Maemo and make it run on Nokia 770/800. >>> >>> In my opinion this could be possible. >>> >> It is possible and done already. About most work was needed to integrate >> with >> existing hildon_im . I can put my port to garage.maemo.org but i >> just need >> to hear from someone from osso permission to put it with needed >> hildon_im .h files >>> We should strip out parts that are not necessary, for example: >>> examples, documentation, headers and possibly other stuff like opengl, >>> variuos db drivers ecc we should try to reduce the size the most >>> we can. >>> >> And then you need input method support, support for some default maemo >> keys. >> Thing that i have at the moment missing is support for menus in standard >> maemo menubar. It just looks little bit stupid having menus top of >> window. >> >> Kate >>> Once this is done, we could also write application using Qt/C++ and >>> not only GTK/C. >>> >>> What do you think about this? Anyone is interested in this project and >>> want to help me? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >> >> ___ >> maemo-developers mailing list >> maemo-developers@maemo.org >> https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > > > > --Mvh > Kristian Alvestad > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] Ogg Vorbis and the N800 - Theora
> > If we could use theora for video decoding and tremor for audio > > decoding would be wonderful ! =) We just need to make it (theora) also > > use vfp... > > I don't know what the theora plug in is using. I guess it > also uses the vfp yet. My intention was to use tremor for > audio decoding since it uses less cpu cycles than the > floating point vorbis plugin. I just did't figure out the > right gst-launch syntax yet. Yes, it does indeed use vfp. All of the files in my tarball were compiled using "-mfpu=vfp -mfloat-abi=softfp" (though obviously tremor doesn't need it). I read somewhere that disabling gstreamer debugging information is supposed to save some CPU cycles for the plugins. As I didn't disable debug information, and assuming it's true, they may be made a little faster. Regards, Simon ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Porting Qt to Maemo
I realize the advantage of having a full blown qt impementation to run qt-apps in maemo, Bu wouldn't this be doing something that has allready been done before; Porting qt to handheld devices? Is it possible to uuse qtopia somehow? maybe run qtopia apps ontop of maemo? Is there anything we can use from the qtopia project? On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 12:26:35 +0100, Kate Alhola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ext Andrea Grandi wrote: Hello, today I did a little test with Qt and Maemo 2.2 SDK. I recompiled Qt 4.2.2 into the Scratchbox with maemo 2.2 installed and I was able to run a little Qt-HelloWorld inside the "emulator". I wonder if it would be possible to realize a real port of Qt into Maemo and make it run on Nokia 770/800. In my opinion this could be possible. It is possible and done already. About most work was needed to integrate with existing hildon_im . I can put my port to garage.maemo.org but i just need to hear from someone from osso permission to put it with needed hildon_im .h files We should strip out parts that are not necessary, for example: examples, documentation, headers and possibly other stuff like opengl, variuos db drivers ecc we should try to reduce the size the most we can. And then you need input method support, support for some default maemo keys. Thing that i have at the moment missing is support for menus in standard maemo menubar. It just looks little bit stupid having menus top of window. Kate Once this is done, we could also write application using Qt/C++ and not only GTK/C. What do you think about this? Anyone is interested in this project and want to help me? Best regards, ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- Mvh Kristian Alvestad ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Porting Qt to Maemo
Just for the record. wxWidgets has also been ported http://maemo.org/maemowiki/LibraryCatalog I think this is a viable alternative to hildon (device specific) programming and to qt. the wxGtk fits nicely onto the device ui and keyboard input works I also blogged about lua + wxWidgets but there are also python bindings http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/keesj/2007/02/07/p49#more49 greetings On 2/9/07, Kate Alhola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ext Andrea Grandi wrote: > Hello, > > today I did a little test with Qt and Maemo 2.2 SDK. I recompiled Qt > 4.2.2 into the Scratchbox with maemo 2.2 installed and I was able to > run a little Qt-HelloWorld inside the "emulator". > > I wonder if it would be possible to realize a real port of Qt into > Maemo and make it run on Nokia 770/800. > > In my opinion this could be possible. > It is possible and done already. About most work was needed to integrate with existing hildon_im . I can put my port to garage.maemo.org but i just need to hear from someone from osso permission to put it with needed hildon_im .h files > We should strip out parts that are not necessary, for example: > examples, documentation, headers and possibly other stuff like opengl, > variuos db drivers ecc we should try to reduce the size the most > we can. > And then you need input method support, support for some default maemo keys. Thing that i have at the moment missing is support for menus in standard maemo menubar. It just looks little bit stupid having menus top of window. Kate > Once this is done, we could also write application using Qt/C++ and > not only GTK/C. > > What do you think about this? Anyone is interested in this project and > want to help me? > > Best regards, > ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Porting Qt to Maemo
ext Andrea Grandi wrote: > Hello, > > today I did a little test with Qt and Maemo 2.2 SDK. I recompiled Qt > 4.2.2 into the Scratchbox with maemo 2.2 installed and I was able to > run a little Qt-HelloWorld inside the "emulator". > > I wonder if it would be possible to realize a real port of Qt into > Maemo and make it run on Nokia 770/800. > > In my opinion this could be possible. > It is possible and done already. About most work was needed to integrate with existing hildon_im . I can put my port to garage.maemo.org but i just need to hear from someone from osso permission to put it with needed hildon_im .h files > We should strip out parts that are not necessary, for example: > examples, documentation, headers and possibly other stuff like opengl, > variuos db drivers ecc we should try to reduce the size the most > we can. > And then you need input method support, support for some default maemo keys. Thing that i have at the moment missing is support for menus in standard maemo menubar. It just looks little bit stupid having menus top of window. Kate > Once this is done, we could also write application using Qt/C++ and > not only GTK/C. > > What do you think about this? Anyone is interested in this project and > want to help me? > > Best regards, > ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] How to change font
On 2/9/07, Antti Ijäs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, wolfg wrote: > 2007/2/9, Sun Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> It means you can not input Chinese with hildon Input method. :) >> >> Cheers >> X2 >> > > So we need develop an alternative input method with virtual keyboard > to input Chinese, right? > Better yet, port SCIM to Maemo. That would be really interesting and it shouldn't be that hard to do. +1 m17n-db can be plugged right into SCIM using scim-m17n packages. & once this is available on maemo, indic languages also can see light of the day sometime soon :) Hope is a very powerfull tool :) -- Makuchaku http://www.makuchaku.info/blog ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] How to change font
Hi, wolfg wrote: > 2007/2/9, Sun Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> It means you can not input Chinese with hildon Input method. :) >> >> Cheers >> X2 >> > > So we need develop an alternative input method with virtual keyboard > to input Chinese, right? > Better yet, port SCIM to Maemo. That would be really interesting and it shouldn't be that hard to do. / Antti -- Antti Ijäs, Movial Corporation Porkkalankatu 13 J, FI-00180 Helsinki Mobile +358 50 547 7689, Tel +358 9 8567 6407 www.movial.fi ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] Nokia SDL color format for pixels
Hello, Could you be more specific what are you trying todo and how? Are you going through pixelvalues and accessing them? See surface->format->BytesPerPixel. SDL_GetRGB and SDL_MapRGB should work allright. // Tapani From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext Michael Stepanov Sent: 09 February, 2007 11:03 To: maemo-developers@maemo.org Subject: [maemo-developers] Nokia SDL color format for pixels Hi, I have a question about SDL realization for Nokia770/800. Does it use some different format to fill a pixel by some color? Because in my application SDL is used to change color of icons according to some conditions. It works fine under Linux (Debian) but it didn't work under Nokia 770 (I tried for both os2005 and os2006). The color of icon is not changed. Any ideas why? Is there some manual about Nokia port of SDL? Thanks in advance. -- Cheers, Michael ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] How to change font
On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 18:01 +0800, ext wolfg wrote: > 2007/2/9, Sun Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > It means you can not input Chinese with hildon Input method. :) > > > > Cheers > > X2 > > > > So we need develop an alternative input method with virtual keyboard > to input Chinese, right? > True. and I don't feel good that Maemo 3.0 can support very well for CJK. Some packages can not be opened because of 3rd party properties, patent issues, etc. So it limits the flexibility to hack it for CJK. Different from western layout (what you type is what you need.) For CJK, at least we need word completion/IM engine. like pinyin, cangjie, etc. Br, X2 ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] How to change font
On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 23:53 +0530, ext mayank jain wrote: > On 2/8/07, Sun Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 22:09 +0800, ext wolfg wrote: > > > 2007/2/8, Sun Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > We are already > > > > considering how to import 3rd party IM engine easily, which is quite > > > > important for CJK. > > > > > > > > Br, > > > > X2 > > > > > > > Great! Is it for N770? > > > > > Not for N770. And I don't know when it will be available in public. :/ > > Is it based on SCIM? Not exactly. First thought is trying to make hildon im engine plugin to accept 3rd party engine. SCIM is under considerate. But it is quite difficult to integrate SCIM with HIM as far as I see. > If I'm not wrong, scim-pinyin/wubi, scim-hangul > and anthy are quite popular for CJK. Br, X2 > > Regards, > Makuchaku ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] How to change font
2007/2/9, Sun Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: It means you can not input Chinese with hildon Input method. :) Cheers X2 So we need develop an alternative input method with virtual keyboard to input Chinese, right? -- ___ http://guoyong.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] How to change font
In Maemo 3.0 http://maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/howto_him_bora.html It was made possible for 3rd party to extend the Hildon input methods Devesh >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext >Sun Richard >Sent: 09 February, 2007 11:47 >To: ext wolfg >Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org >Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] How to change font > >On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 17:31 +0800, ext wolfg wrote: >> 2007/2/8, Sun Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> > Not for N770. And I don't know when it will be available >in public. >> > :/ >> > >> > //X2 >> > >> >> means no way to input Chinese characters on N770? >> >It means you can not input Chinese with hildon Input method. :) > >Cheers >X2 >___ >maemo-developers mailing list >maemo-developers@maemo.org >https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] busybox, sh and $HOME
I really have no idea... and looks like it doesn't look at .profile I've noticed this too on my N800 (see earlier posts on users list): for what I've understood, this is due to the fact that you run ash not bash nor sh. What it strange is that .profile is run when connecting on the N800 through SSH. I'm interested in the answers you may get about this! TIA. -- Laurent, Nantes - France Apple PowerBook 12" Treo 650 (unlocked GSM) Nokia Internet Tablet N800 ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] How to change font
On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 17:31 +0800, ext wolfg wrote: > 2007/2/8, Sun Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Not for N770. And I don't know when it will be available in public. :/ > > > > //X2 > > > > means no way to input Chinese characters on N770? > It means you can not input Chinese with hildon Input method. :) Cheers X2 ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Bluetooth Headset: first steps
On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 23:47 +0100, Jochen Eisinger wrote: > I've summarized some steps I took to get my bluetooth headset working > with my 770 on this wiki page: Thank you for sharing that info! It's nice to hear about any progress on this topic. > Thanks to the help of Johan and Ville who provided a new bluetooth > firmware blob, it is possible to record audio using a bluetooth headset. Where did get knowledge of its existence from? > So far, I didn't manage to playback audio via the headset, but maybe > somebody else succeeds. What was the problem here? > Also, there's currently no application (I know of) that uses ALSA > devices on the 770, so besides the sheer joy of having something on the > 770 you don't have on the 800, it doesn't add much value. I remember minisip available for the 770. This SIP (with GUI *hint*) application uses ALSA IIRC. Maybe you could try if it works with you installation of the ALSA stuff? Any report about this would be very useful. Thanks and a nice weekend, Jonek. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] How to change font
2007/2/8, Sun Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Not for N770. And I don't know when it will be available in public. :/ //X2 means no way to input Chinese characters on N770? -- ___ http://guoyong.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Newbie Question
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I AGREE
1. How do I copy it on the N800 so that I can run with xterm (with
gainroot)? When I copy it to the mmc1 and attempt to run it from there I
encounter an error saying : "Syntax error: "(" expected.
If your program uses shell script note that busybox shell ash is
different from bash. Maybe your program contains some bashisms (shell
script which works in bash but not in standard shell).
I am an extreme newbie at this. I have a C app that I have compiled
using gcc. I tested in Scratchbox (SDK_ARMEL) and low and behold it
works...
...
2. How do I install it into Xephyr in order to test it on my Ubuntu
machine?
Xephyr is only the X server part. The application itself is being run in
scratchbox.
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[maemo-developers] Nokia SDL color format for pixels
Hi, I have a question about SDL realization for Nokia770/800. Does it use some different format to fill a pixel by some color? Because in my application SDL is used to change color of icons according to some conditions. It works fine under Linux (Debian) but it didn't work under Nokia 770 (I tried for both os2005 and os2006). The color of icon is not changed. Any ideas why? Is there some manual about Nokia port of SDL? Thanks in advance. -- Cheers, Michael ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
