Python doesn't install in the SDK for me.

2007-10-19 Thread George Nachman
I tried to join the pymaemo list but their sign up seems to be broken, so
I'm hoping someone here knows how to fix the problem or contact those in the
know. I'm trying to follow the instructions at
http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.org/sdk_installation.html and I got through the
first three, but then apt-get install python2.5* fails:

[sbox-SDK_X86: ~] > apt-get update
Hit http://repository.maemo.org bora/free Packages
Hit http://repository.maemo.org bora/free Release
Hit http://repository.maemo.org bora/non-free Packages
Hit http://repository.maemo.org bora/non-free Release
Hit http://repository.maemo.org bora/free Sources
Ign http://repository.maemo.org bora/free Release
Get:1 http://repository.maemo.org bora/free Packages [112kB]
Get:2 http://repository.maemo.org bora/free Release [75B]
Hit http://repository.maemo.org bora/non-free Packages
Get:3 http://repository.maemo.org bora/non-free Release [79B]
Fetched 112kB in 4s (27.3kB/s)
Reading Package Lists... Done

[sbox-SDK_X86: ~] > apt-get install python2.5*
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Note, selecting python2.5-abook-dev for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-gstreamer for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.4-avahi for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-evas for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.4-dev for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.4-libxslt1 for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-gpsbt for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-gtk2 for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.3-tk for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-dbus-dev for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.4-osso for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-gstreamer-dev for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-gobject-dev for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.4-libxml2 for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-pygame for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.3-libxslt1 for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-gobject for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-dev for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.3 for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.4 for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5 for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-pyrex for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-bluez-dev for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-xml-dev for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-bluez for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-hildon-dev for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-abook for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-avahi for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-conic-dev for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.3-ipython for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-runtime for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting idle-python2.3 for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-libxml2 for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-id3lib for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-numeric for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-pygame-dev for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-xml for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.4-hildon for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.4-gtk2 for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-osso for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-galago-dev for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-evas-dev for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-gnome-dev for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-osso-dev for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.3-dev for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-dbus for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-conic for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.3-libxml2 for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-imaging for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-numeric-dev for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-gtk2-dev for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.4-ipython for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-hildon for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.4-gobject for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-libxslt1 for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-galago for regex 'python2.5*'
Note, selecting python2.5-gnome for regex 'python2.5*'
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  python2.5-evas-dev: Depends: python2.5-evas (= 0.1.1-maemo.2) but it is
not installable
E: Broken packages


Here's the contents of my /etc/apt/sources.list:

deb http://repository.maemo.org/ bora free no

0xFFFF 0.3 released

2007-10-19 Thread pancake
Changelog sings:

  * Add fiasco firmware support for packing and unpacking
  * Add minor documentation of the format
  * Available API for working with them.
  * Code cleanup
  * Cleaner help messages
  * Add '-F' flag to flash from a fiasco image

FMI:  http://nopcode.org/0x/

Have fun with it! :)


  --pancake
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Python 2.5 on chinook

2007-10-19 Thread Devraj Mukherjee
Hi everyone,

We are trying to get started with Python development on Scratchbox
(Chinook SDK), I found the following tutorial
(http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.org/sdk_installation.html) which
obviously references all packages for bora.

Are there any Python ports available for chinook yet?

Any references on easily installing Python with the chinook SDK?

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chinook beta sdk questions -- X / vnc

2007-10-19 Thread Kemal Hadimli
I'm trying to run hildon-desktop on Xtightvnc, which didn't work.
Maybe something to do with the composite extension/support? Bora
(still) works with this setup.

Anyway, so I ran a regular vncserver on the box and opened a Xephyr
session inside. Connecting to the vnc from my laptop, I saw that only
the green channel is rendered (empty X desktop). Ran hildon-desktop
(with af-sb-init of course) it too had only the green channel.

Tried with different color depths on both servers, couldn't fix it.
Any ideas? Any other recommendations on how to run the desktop
remotely? The Xtightvnc setup was so useful wish it could work.

The error I get with Xtightvnc (my Bora setup) is:

The program 'hildon-desktop' received an X Window System error.
This probably reflects a bug in the program.
The error was 'BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)'.
  (Details: serial 338 error_code 2 request_code 53 minor_code 0)

The cmdline I use for Xtightvnc is:
Xtightvnc :2 -ac -dpi 96 -depth 16 -geometry 800x480 -x Composite
(-x Composite doesn't seem to help at all, I get the same result with
it included or not)

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Re: Fwd: chinook

2007-10-19 Thread Kemal Hadimli
Please don't exclude some of the bindings (like LibConIC) just because
they're not in the default install of OS2006. :)

Good luck with the release.

On 10/19/07, Luciano Miguel Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We will release a new PyMaemo (os2006/2007 and chinook) next week.

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Re: About Flash Player 9

2007-10-19 Thread koos vriezen
2007/10/19, YX. Shawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I'm trying to embed flash file(SWF file)  into my own  application, but for
> now, I just can play flash file by web browser. Is anyone know how to embed
> it to my own app,  thanx for giving me simple guide, or example. If this is
> impossible, I wanna know if there is some stand alone flash player for
> flash9 files.

You can actually reuse the libflashplayer.so that is installed on the
device. See 
https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/src/npplayer.c?root=kmplayer&rev=116&view=markup
how. See the npplayer.h file which functions you're supposed to call.

Br,
Koos Vriezen
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Re: Fwd: chinook

2007-10-19 Thread Luciano Miguel Wolf
Hi,

We will release a new PyMaemo (os2006/2007 and chinook) next week.

Regards,
Luciano

ext Jonathan Greene wrote:
> Should have sent here ...
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Jonathan Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:11:32 -0400
> Subject: chinook
> To: maemo-users <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> does anyone have anything built to test?  love to try some apps on the N810
> ...
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Developing for all IT platforms

2007-10-19 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 10:12:29PM +0100, Neil Jerram wrote:
> Something that's been bugging for a while, and will become more
> important now that N810 is here...
> 
> Is there a recommended procedure for setting up Scratchbox so that one
> can easily compile an application and build its package for all of the
> IT platforms (i.e. ideally: 770 with latest 2006 OS, 770 with HE, N800
> with latest 2007 OS, and N810 with whatever its OS is).

I had Maemo 2.1 and 3.0 targets side-by-side in my Scratchbox once.  I
haven't tried installing 4.0, 3.2 and 2.2 yet (actually I haven't gotten
up to installing scratchbox on my new laptop yet, it's just too tedious.
I want 'apt-get install maemo-sdk-4.0 maemo-sdk-3.2 maemo-sdk-2.2'!)

> Then, similarly, is there a recommended procedure for publishing the
> packages,

http://maemo.org/community/application-catalog/extras_repository.html

> and/or setting up a repository,

Please don't.  There are too many ad-hoc repositories already.

> and/or providing .install
> files, so that an IT user will easily be able to get the version of
> the package that is right for them?

The Extras repository will generate several .install files for you,
which is a bit silly, because you want only one that works for all OS
versions.  Merging them into a single .install isn't too difficult, and
the format is pretty obvious.  It is documented here:

https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/trunk/osso-application-installer/doc/repository.txt

Hm, it only speaks of OS2006 (where .install files are not officially
supported, but work fine nevertheless) and OS2007.

Marius Gedminas
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Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions

2007-10-19 Thread Tim Teulings
Hello!

>   * Contributors apply themselves through their maemo profiles. No
> invitation is needed. Please don't send us extra emails, they
> won't help you.

Some questions:
* When will my profile (and the related links) be evaluated? A Short 
time before the release or a short time after applying? I'm asking 
because: Is it wise to apply now or better shortly before the deadline? 
It sounds like the profile will improve over time. And of course I will 
try to promote my skills using the linked pages. So applying later may 
be better!? (I would suggest a "make your self attractive" deadline ;-) 
Please understand: I don't want to ceat but I want to make sure there is 
the information you are looking for.
* Is the sourceforge link in the profile meant to be a link to my 
personal source "users" page or to a sf web page for my project(s)? I'm 
asking because the users page does not tell that much (and it looks like 
I can only publish my skills if I enter a resume :-/).
* I'm currently hosting by applications using sourceforge (because they 
are not maemo only, just maemo "optimized", I use sf much longer than 
maemo exists, etc...), having a repository on my homepage. My 
application only occur in the Application Catalog. So my fear is, that 
people "don't see" me (see above ;-)). because I'm neither using garage 
for my developments nor do I see a link from my profile to my projects 
(which should be the case). This is a problem that bothers my for a while...
* How can I better promote my application in this case? Can I make a 
garage project page for my application? Would this make sense?

I would also suggest

And something completely unrelated:
The Application Catalog still seems to be horribly broken. Example:
Go to the main page, sue the standard settings (2007, Any licence, Any 
status) and search for EightyOne => No hit. No go in the "Games" 
category, step to page 2 and there it is.

Since I read multiple times and the catalog was broken and was fixed 
after and because this bug seem to have last now for quite a while I 
always assume that somehow this is not a bug (and f it is a bug, I have 
an idea what the problem is (looks like searching for 2007 does not 
match 2006+2007 support!?)). But now it looks like it is time for a 
ticket/discussion anyway. So: Is this by design (and if it is: does that 
make sense?)?

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Gruß...
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Re: N810 memory bandwidth

2007-10-19 Thread Michael Dominic Kostrzewa
On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 02:01:59PM -0700, ext Dan Amelang wrote:
> Hi all (specifically to Daniel Stone, actually, but others might be
> interested in the answer),
> 
> Does the N810 have the same memory bandwidth problems that the N800
> has, as discussed here?

Sparing Daniel the hard time -- the answer is yes. 


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Re: Nokia 810 GPU

2007-10-19 Thread Michael Dominic Kostrzewa
On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 11:29:43PM +0200, ext Gideon de Kok wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> The N810 uses the OMAP 2420 processor:
> http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6351/15yr.jpg
> 
> The OMAP 2420 has a integrated PowerVR MBX 2D/3D accelerator

Note that this chip is NOT being used at the moment and there is no 
driver/access for it. Yes, it's very unfortunate. Yes, things might 
change in future.


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Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

2007-10-19 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi Jordi,

On Thu, 2007-10-18 at 21:20:11 +0200, Jordi Mas wrote:
> It seems technically possible to localize the different components to
> other languages since all the infrastructure is based on intltool and
> seems very well internationalized.

Well, the source code is using logical strings, which I've pointed
out in the past being a bad idea (internally and on this list [0]).
But then I'm not officially involved with l10n at Nokia.

At the time, I wanted to start translating it to Catalan, but I decided
I didn't want to waste my spare time dealing with the logical strings.
Supposedly some packages might be switching or have switched to
"engineering english", which is an improvement, but still. Good luck
anyway ...

regards,
guillem

[0] http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail//maemo-developers/2006-February/002974.html
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Re: Porting to chinook

2007-10-19 Thread Ian Lawrence
Ola,
>> #include 
>   That's not the best way. You should check for hildon-1 pkg-config files 
> in
> configure.in, which will add /usr/include/hildon-1 to your include path.
> Then, in the source files, you should include hildon/hildon-program.h.

Yes, I did something like this in configure.ac :

AC_ARG_ENABLE(hildon, AS_HELP_STRING([--enable-hildon],[compile for Hildon 
environment
@<:@default=no@:>@]),,enable_hildon=no)


dnl 
dnl Hildon
dnl 

if test "x$enable_hildon" = "xyes"; then
   dnl AC_MSG_CHECKING([for GtkHTML2 support])
   PKG_CHECK_MODULES([HILDON], hildon-1 >= 
1.0.5,enable_hildon=yes,enable_hildon=no)
else
   enable_hildon=no
fi


AM_CONDITIONAL(WITH_HILDON, test "x$enable_hildon" = "xyes")

HTH
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Re: Porting to chinook

2007-10-19 Thread Alberto García Hierro
El Friday 19 October 2007 13:21:34 Detlef Schmicker escribió:
> he hildon-widgets in the includes had to be changed from
>
> #include 
>
> to
>
> #include 
That's not the best way. You should check for hildon-1 pkg-config files 
in 
configure.in, which will add /usr/include/hildon-1 to your include path. 
Then, in the source files, you should include hildon/hildon-program.h.

Regards,
Alberto

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Re: Importing packages from the Debian archive

2007-10-19 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hi,

"Andrew Flegg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> This is exactly the problem which my little project, mud-builder
> attempts to address:
>
> http://mud-builder.garage.maemo.org/

Thanks, this is exactly what I was looking for.  I'm now in the process
of learning how to use it...

Ludovic.

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Porting to chinook

2007-10-19 Thread Detlef Schmicker
Hello,

I recompiled vncviewer yesterday for chinook, but did not test yet (No
N810:-).

One minor issue, which might help developers in the future:

the hildon-widgets in the includes had to be changed from

#include 

to

#include 


This will make the code base different for the two platforms (OS2008,
OS2007), which is not very nice.

A sym link would be nice (hildon-widgets to hildon-1/hildon).

Or any better solution?!

The only other change necessary was renaming hildon-libs-dev to hildon-1
in the debian control file.

Detlef

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Re: Nokia 810 GPU

2007-10-19 Thread vicente garcia
Because my girlfriend has a Dell x50v and I was comparing the two gadgets.

Thanks :)

On 10/19/07, Simon Pickering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Quoting vicente garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > Thanks so much Gideon, I thought that it has dedicated graphic RAM
> but
> > not :(
> > Thanks :)
>
> Well it does in the LCD controller (Epson S1D13745A01 Mobile Graphics
> Engine), which has a 1280k byte display buffer.
>
> I imagine the PowerVR MBX and VGP must have their own memory too.
>
> Why do you ask?
>
>
> Simon
>
>
>
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Re: Nokia N810 Q

2007-10-19 Thread vicente garcia
Yes, It is.
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Re: Nokia N810 Q

2007-10-19 Thread Kalle Valo
"ext Peter Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> There is only one removable SD slot. Its a miniSD slot that can take
> either miniSD or microSD  (with a converter). The "internal 2GB card"
> is 2GB of flash built in (chip on mainboard I suspect) so there is
> actually only one SD slot.

You are correct.

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Re: Developing for all IT platforms

2007-10-19 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi,

ext Neil Jerram wrote:
> Something that's been bugging for a while, and will become more
> important now that N810 is here...
> 
> Is there a recommended procedure for setting up Scratchbox so that one
> can easily compile an application and build its package for all of the
> IT platforms (i.e. ideally: 770 with latest 2006 OS, 770 with HE, N800
> with latest 2007 OS, and N810 with whatever its OS is).

Quick note: N800 will get a new release along with N810 and they are
fully compatible (i.e. Chinook) from the applications point of view.

N800 lacks the GPS and keyboard, but software handles this, I think
you should be able to use BT GPS and BT keyboard with N800 and the new
SW  works with them like they work with the N810 builtin HW.  I'm not
involved with these components so it would be good if somebody would
verify this though.


- Eero
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Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions

2007-10-19 Thread Quim Gil

On Fri, 2007-10-19 at 09:29 +0200, ext Murray Cumming wrote:
> Ah. I have declared a contractor affiliation with Nokia. But you just
> told me in a private email to apply anyway, after I double-checked with
> you about the "if in doubt, apply". I guess I'll pretend not to be
> affiliated.

Show the "Apply program" block to users with Nokia affiliation
http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2135

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Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions

2007-10-19 Thread Murray Cumming

On Fri, 2007-10-19 at 10:20 +0300, Quim Gil wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-10-19 at 08:15 +0200, ext Murray Cumming wrote:
> > After entering my profile
> > information, and clicking publish on the confirmation page, I am taken
> > to https://maemo.org/profile/, but I see no way to make a request for an
> > N810 discount.
> 
> Because this is the private view of your profile and in the way we have
> designed the thing the application is done in the edit profile side.
> 
> Go to edit your profile and you will find the option to apply... unless
> you have declared an affiliation with Nokia. This is also behaving in
> the way it has been designed.

Ah. I have declared a contractor affiliation with Nokia. But you just
told me in a private email to apply anyway, after I double-checked with
you about the "if in doubt, apply". I guess I'll pretend not to be
affiliated.

> I'm filing bugs like http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2133 thanks
> to your feedback to improve this tool. Feel free filing bugs or
> enhancements requests yourselves. We can discuss and fix stuff there.

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Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions

2007-10-19 Thread Quim Gil
On Fri, 2007-10-19 at 08:15 +0200, ext Murray Cumming wrote:
> After entering my profile
> information, and clicking publish on the confirmation page, I am taken
> to https://maemo.org/profile/, but I see no way to make a request for an
> N810 discount.

Because this is the private view of your profile and in the way we have
designed the thing the application is done in the edit profile side.

Go to edit your profile and you will find the option to apply... unless
you have declared an affiliation with Nokia. This is also behaving in
the way it has been designed.

I'm filing bugs like http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2133 thanks
to your feedback to improve this tool. Feel free filing bugs or
enhancements requests yourselves. We can discuss and fix stuff there.

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