Re: maemo training
Thanks for the offer! I'm preparing a Forum Nokia page in maemo.org detailing the services offered and the points of contact so companies like yours know who to propose something like this. On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 15:21 +0200, ext Murray Cumming wrote: On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 15:52 +0200, Mathias Uebelacker wrote: Hello, i saw that movial offers a 3 day training with maemo stuff. Is there any known training facility in germany which offers a training like that or is there any online training? Openismus is based in Germany. Maybe we can offer some developer training. -- Quim Gil - http://maemo.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions
Hello! * How can I better promote my application in this case? Can I make a garage project page for my application? Would this make sense? We need to help developers promoting their applications in any case, [...] news or blog about it... Having a project in Garage helps, yes. Hmm, as asked before: In my case (and possibly others) I also have a sourceforge project page. So while I can make a separate garage projects for each of my projects it is likely that I would not use much of the infrastructure. Especially I would not use the subversion repository, since all my code is already placed at sourceforge. And I likely would link to my sourceforge homepage for more information and else would duplicate information from the sf homepage. However it still looks like I would profit from this so: if this is OK for you, it is OK for me ;-) It would be nice if external hosting sites would be integrated/supported better, but I would need to play a little bit more with garage to make concrete suggestions. The Application Catalog still seems to be horribly broken. I wouldn't be so tough bu in any case let's evaluate OK. That was to drastic, but in fact I plan to build initial version of my packages for OS2008 within the next two weeks (just need some final finishing touch for one package) and of course I will update the information in the Application Catalog. However it seems that anybody that looks for already existing applications for his 810 currently will not find them (if this package is also available for OS 2007 or 2006). That is at least more than not nice ;-) http://downloads.maemo.org once we have implemented the round of improvements to be released one of these days. See https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=948group_id=106atid=460 Sounds good :-) -- Gruß... Tim ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: browser and virtual keyboard
* tj | I have an N800 and I ahve a question. I am starting on a Linux project | that uses a touch screen display and uses a virtual keyboard. My main | question is how to tie the appearance of the keyboard to selecting a | text inpuit field ala the N800. On the N800 it's done by the Hildon Input Method, which presents itself to GTK as an input method in the same way that helpers for inputting CJVK present themselves. The application doesn't need to do anything, assuming it's using GTK. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions
On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 08:59 +0200, ext Tim Teulings wrote: However it seems that anybody that looks for already existing applications for his 810 currently will not find them (if this package is also available for OS 2007 or 2006). That is at least more than not nice ;-) Perhaps, although kind of makes sense considering that the device is not yet in the market and the OS2008 is not available for public download. However, we will create the OS2008 category very soon and before the OS2008/N810 are out. This way developers can start uploading, SDK users can try in the emulated environment and N810 proto owners can start doing some real testing installing apps in a convenient way. -- Quim Gil - http://maemo.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages
Hi Jordi, On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 22:43 +0200, ext Jordi Mas wrote: Hello Quim, The current system based on logical strings and not on standard open source practices is open for change though, or at least not-closed to changes. In fact I’m willing to push this feature to the maemo roadmap. A problem here are the implications any change has on code, processes, licensing and such. Nothing that couldn’t be done but since the basic L10n is covered, other features tend to get higher priority and attention. As many other people has pointed out I think that this is a must have step for Maemo. I have to admit it. It's not easy to get rid of them. This will affect the current process we are following. I completely understand that you need proper PO/T files to translate and we need to provide you with them. What I'd propose is we/I replace the logical IDs with Engineering English in the POT files you use to translate and convert them back upon packaging and building. If this is fine then I can start to see what's needed to be done to deliver this :-) At platform level I see these main needs: - The use of standard PO files. Would my suggestion above role this out ? - The possibility to register a new language in the system (the user can switch to it). This is the I18N part. I'm sure they can tell better than me. - The possibility to package a deb packet with all the translations and install it. That'd be a standard debian package I guess ? It can also be automated if we will use a central place/repository to gather all the translations. From the community management perspective there are many ways of organsing it. From going to a system like Pootle or LaunchPad to more simple approaches. One easy to setup scenario is: - A Wiki page to list the localization teams / efforts. - A Wiki page with the I18N requirements / needs are collected. - A mailing list to coordinate the community I18N/L10N efforts. - An automatic generated PO statistics files for every language, like GNOME's Damned Lies. (nice to have) - Access to a Subversion space to upload the translations. May be makes sense to move all of this to a Wiki page (community localization?) and start collecting all this feedback there. If such a system is put in place, I can help testing the whole process and tools help to translate (I hope with other folks) the system into Catalan. Let's not go into details like the system we use to manage the translations and stuff. I like the wiki idea so I'd vote for that :-) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions
Hello! However it seems that anybody that looks for already existing applications for his 810 currently will not find them (if this package is also available for OS 2007 or 2006). That is at least more than not nice ;-) Perhaps, although kind of makes sense considering that the device is not yet in the market and the OS2008 is not available for public download. However, we will create the OS2008 category very soon and before the OS2008/N810 are out. This way developers can start uploading, SDK users can try in the emulated environment and N810 proto owners can start doing some real testing installing apps in a convenient way. That was not the point. Please read my initial problem description. The problem is, that if your application catalog entry states that you have packages for multiple OS version (my current packages support OS2006 and OS2007) and you search for packages for OS 2007, you will not see most of my packages. At least that is the way it is for my packages. This will get worse for OS 2008 when it will be release. Me and likely all maintainers of long existing and stable packages will add OS 2008 to their list of supported OS versions. If new user will search for software for their new N810 they may not see these packages at all and will assume that there are no packages while in fact they are (it is difficult to judge which packages he will see, because if I go to downloads.maemo.org and just do the default search (any packages for OS 2007) I only see a small subset that has no obivous common criteria - but only a small subset). They have to walk all the categories manually to see all available applications. The bug ticket you linked sounds like it will fix this problem by changing the interface. Will it be out in time? -- Gruß... Tim. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Developing for all IT platforms
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 08:50:10AM +0300, Santtu Lakkala wrote: Mike Morrison wrote: I have a similar question on the same topic. How are people setting up their automake/autoconf projects? Is it possible to set up the automake/autoconf scripts in such a way that running ./configure will detect which SDK (gregale, bora, chinook) is installed and configure the project accordingly? You shouldn't do stuff depending on the rootstrap version, but on individual package availibility/versions. I wrote a leetle blog post[1] over matter of supporting both chinook and mistral/bora, hildon-wise. The same method can obviously be transferred to other libraries as well. Missing footnote: [1] http://inz.fi/blog/2007/10/21/leetle-hildon-1chinook-migration-things/ The instructions for installing three SDK versions in a single scratchbox were also very nice: http://inz.fi/blog/2007/10/22/multi-target-development-for-maemo/ Marius Gedminas -- Microsoft has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down. -- Judge Jackson signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Maemo Downloads, Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was not the point. Please read my initial problem description. The problem is, that if your application catalog entry states that you have packages for multiple OS version (my current packages support OS2006 and OS2007) and you search for packages for OS 2007, you will not see most of my packages. At least that is the way it is for my packages. Then perhaps you may fill it as bug in bugzilla? I didn't know abut the garage tracker Quim mentioned but I did file two bugs for Maemo Downloads recently http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2120 http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2121 and both got handled and will be fixed in new version. So maybe bugzilla is better fo real bugs (not Midgard feature enhancements). Frantisek ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages
ext Mohammed Hassan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I'd propose is we/I replace the logical IDs with Engineering English in the POT files you use to translate and convert them back upon packaging and building. One immediate problem I see with this is that multiple logical ids can map to the same Engineering English string, so you can't reliably reverse the mapping. (Also, the code itself should start using Engineering English itself, of course, to make it more useful to external developers that don't have the UI specs, and because that is how God intended it to be done. :-) It would be interesting to take our current translations and mine them for the logical ids that map to the same Engineering English, but at the same time have different translations in some language. These are the cases where we would need to use the menu|Open construct in the code instead of the existing Engineering English string. Identifying and handling these cases is where I see a large part of the effort needed to move away from logical ids, so it would be good to get an overview. Once that has been dealt with, we could consider using your scheme, or we could consider Engineering English instead of logical ids everyhwere in our processes. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Maemo Downloads, Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions
Hello! Then perhaps you may fill it as bug in bugzilla? I didn't know abut the garage tracker Quim mentioned but I did file two bugs for Maemo Downloads recently http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2120 http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2121 and both got handled and will be fixed in new version. So maybe bugzilla is better fo real bugs (not Midgard feature enhancements). As written, I found the bug that obvious and had memory fragments of discussions and mail natifications about fixes in the application catalog that I was unsure if this is really a bug or a defined and wanted behaviour. If somebody assures me, that this is definitely not wanted behaviour I will for sure make a bug for it :-) -- Gruß... Tim. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Keyboard operation on n800
Pada hari Senin, tanggal 22/10/2007 pukul 17:10 -0400, ext tj menulis: for the n800/maemo keyboard operation available/open source? Or, if it is not, is there somplace that has an open source project of it? You mean like this one? http://aksi.mdamt.net/basic-example-of-HIM-enabled-custom-gtk-widget+ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Developing for all IT platforms
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marius Gedminas wrote: Missing footnote: [1] http://inz.fi/blog/2007/10/21/leetle-hildon-1chinook-migration-things/ Thanks for filling in, wonder how I managed to leave that out. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHHd7zX9Rc0+po4p0RAiSoAJ9KCHa+q2ZvRGY63zDbUV3POKIaBwCeM5vg QsSoE9/XIytUET4bNKIp82M= =TzLZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages
On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 14:01 +0300, Marius Vollmer wrote: ext Mohammed Hassan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I'd propose is we/I replace the logical IDs with Engineering English in the POT files you use to translate and convert them back upon packaging and building. One immediate problem I see with this is that multiple logical ids can map to the same Engineering English string, so you can't reliably reverse the mapping. I think using msgid_comment can solve that. (Also, the code itself should start using Engineering English itself, of course, to make it more useful to external developers that don't have the UI specs, and because that is how God intended it to be done. :-) The problem is the logical IDs are needed to maintain the smooth process. It's not easy to simply drop them. I did not say it's impossible. I didn't say it'll be done or it'll not. I'm just saying that they are needed ;-) I completely understand the FOSS way. I have my own Free Software projects. It's just that the situation is different It would be interesting to take our current translations and mine them for the logical ids that map to the same Engineering English, but at the same time have different translations in some language. These are the cases where we would need to use the menu|Open construct in the code instead of the existing Engineering English string. Identifying and handling these cases is where I see a large part of the effort needed to move away from logical ids, so it would be good to get an overview. Multiple logical IDs with the same Engineering English string are needed because the translation might change according to the context. Once that has been dealt with, we could consider using your scheme, or we could consider Engineering English instead of logical ids everyhwere in our processes. -- Localization Engineer Open Source Software Operations ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
DBus with Nano-X
Hi, This message might be offtopic, but as nxxx is heavily using dbus, I thought of posting this question. We are planning to use Nano-X to develop the GUI application, and this main application will invoke the other applications as input selected by user through say TV remote or touchscreen input and it will call the resp. app, e.g. camera capture, playback, logger, io control. We also want to have one layer of application management software in-between the main GUI app and other apps mentioned above to handle inter-process communication. I was thinking of using dbus, instead of developing that management software layer to handle just IPC, but is it feasible to use dbus with Nano-X? Anybody used it before OR will it bring lot of dependencies? -- --Trilok Soni ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Themes for MAEMO platform
Hello, I am new to MAEMO platform. I have installed Mamemo3.x successfully able to see hildon desktop. Now my aim is to view the themes for SDK_X86 target. While doing google search I found that themes are available only for ARM target. 1) Is there a way to install themes for SDK_X86 target. 2) What does .desktop and .service files signifies how it is generated. 3) Can community help me in installing themes for SDK_X86 target viewing it successfully. Regards, Madhuri ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages
Mohammed Hassan wrote: It would be interesting to take our current translations and mine them for the logical ids that map to the same Engineering English, but at the same time have different translations in some language. These are the cases where we would need to use the menu|Open construct in the code instead of the existing Engineering English string. Identifying and handling these cases is where I see a large part of the effort needed to move away from logical ids, so it would be good to get an overview. Multiple logical IDs with the same Engineering English string are needed because the translation might change according to the context. Actually, gettext already has tools to handle same text in different context without using logical id:s http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/gettext.html#Contexts ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages
Pada hari Senin, tanggal 22/10/2007 pukul 22:43 +0200, ext Jordi Mas menulis: - The possibility to register a new language in the system (the user can switch to it). Let's start with this: https://maemo.org/community/wiki/i18n/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Developing for all IT platforms
Santtu Lakkala [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have targets for mistral/2.0 (to support mistral, scirocco and gregale), bora/3.0 (to support bora 3.0, 3.1, 3.2) and now chinook-beta to support the upcoming N810. I then compile packages first on mistral and see if they work on bora -- if they don't, rebuild with bora... Thanks; together with your recent blog post that contains the details of how to set this up, that is exactly what I was looking for. I didn't find documentation for chinook .install files, but reading the source, I got the following: 888 [install] package = package to be installed catalogues = comma separated list of repositories for the package [repository1] name = repository name uri = base uri dist = dist name components = components 888 Of course the .install file can still include the repo_name, repo_deb and repo_deb_3. For example, mh-shot-tool install file currently looks like this: 888 [install] repo_name = maemo-hackers catalogues = maemo-hackers-chinook repo_deb = deb http://maemo-hackers.org/apt mistral main repo_deb_3 = deb http://maemo-hackers.org/apt bora main package = mh-shot-tool [maemo-hackers-chinook] name=Maemo Hackers for chinook uri=http://maemo-hackers.org/apt dist=chinook components=main 888 Fantastic, thanks. Neil ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages
Pada hari Senin, tanggal 22/10/2007 pukul 22:43 +0200, ext Jordi Mas menulis: - The possibility to register a new language in the system (the user can switch to it). Let's start with this: https://maemo.org/community/wiki/i18n/ What's the idea of this page? Ask for a better way to do that or explain how do you can do that? As I say on a previous mail, if you want to add a new language in the system the fast and simply way is: * Dowload the package posix-locales, modify debian/rules to add the locale you want to add, recompile the package and install it on the device. * Modify the extra-languages gconf property in order to see the new language on the osso-languageregional applet (to allow the user to select it): gconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/applet/languageregional/available_languages -t list --list-type string [gl_ES] But this allow the user to select the language as gl_ES, very non-intuitive. It could be a good idea to document it, at least meanwhile we haven't a better way to do that. Anyway, IMHO, this process should be improved, for example, allow to configure languageregional in order to allow to add new endonyms. Well, perhaps I'm wrong. There are a better way to register a new language in the system? === API ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages
On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 16:34 +0200, ext API wrote: Pada hari Senin, tanggal 22/10/2007 pukul 22:43 +0200, ext Jordi Mas menulis: - The possibility to register a new language in the system (the user can switch to it). Let's start with this: https://maemo.org/community/wiki/i18n/ What's the idea of this page? Ask for a better way to do that or explain how do you can do that? As I say on a previous mail, if you want to add a new language in the system the fast and simply way is: * Dowload the package posix-locales, modify debian/rules to add the locale you want to add, recompile the package and install it on the device. * Modify the extra-languages gconf property in order to see the new language on the osso-languageregional applet (to allow the user to select it): gconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/applet/languageregional/available_languages -t list --list-type string [gl_ES] But this allow the user to select the language as gl_ES, very non-intuitive. It could be a good idea to document it, at least meanwhile we haven't a better way to do that. Anyway, IMHO, this process should be improved, for example, allow to configure languageregional in order to allow to add new endonyms. Well, perhaps I'm wrong. There are a better way to register a new language in the system? It's this page: https://maemo.org/community/wiki/i18n-AddNewLanguages Please check the 4th step: 4. That's it. If you see only xx_YY and not Your Language (Your Country) in the applet, then you need to find and fill these fields in the locale data file (then go back to step 1): LC_ADDRESS ... country_name Your Country lang_name Your Language ... END_LC_ADDRESS -- Localization Engineer Open Source Software Operations ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Maemo SDK 4.x beta
Hi there, I am testing the new maemo 4 beta and have some issues. I am porting a HAM psk31 application to maemo and according to the porting to maemo 3.x guide, I should add hildon-libs to configure.in. However, hildon-libs isn't installed on maemo 4. I just found hildon-l. Is this a bug or a new feature? [sbox-SDK_BETA_X86: ~/gpsk31-0.3] pkg-config --list-all | grep hildon hildon-desktop hildon-desktop - Hildon Desktop Headers hildon-1hildon - Hildon widgets library libhildondesktoplibhildondesktop - Hildon Lib Desktop -Klaus ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Audio in on N800 and N810
Hello, for a application I port I need a audio in source on the N800 and the N810 IT. The N800 has a 3,5 mm jack with stereo out and audio in (microphone level). Does the N810 also has this jack? How can I use this jack? I have some problems to get anything other work than the supplied headset. I use transformers to separate the N800 from my HF equipment (a Ft817 amateur radio transceiver) and some resistors to reduce the audio level so I can directly input line level. But it won't work. Is there any resistor magic that will enable the audio in? Sampling rates: Is it true, that the N800 just supports 8 KHz sampling rate with the microphone in? If yes, is it the same with the N810? The N810 would be nice because of its build in keyboard. The PSK31 software isn't really that usable with a on screen keyboard. Thanks for your help, -Klaus ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Audio in on N800 and N810
Hi, Klaus Rotter wrote: How can I use this jack? I have some problems to get anything other work than the supplied headset. I use transformers to separate the N800 from my HF equipment (a Ft817 amateur radio transceiver) and some resistors to reduce the audio level so I can directly input line level. But it won't work. Is there any resistor magic that will enable the audio in? I fought with this one (jack detection), but due to my poor electronics skills I never got it to work. However, I made some findings (so some things can be at least ruled out :) which you can see from this thread: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/developers/27084 I'd also be very interested in getting the detection to work, so please keep the list (or at least me) informed, if you get some progress. Good luck, - Jami ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Maemo SDK 4.x beta
Is this a bug or a new feature? Neither. This is called API break, as you can see here: http://maemo.org/development/sdks/api_changes_between_maemo_3_2_and_maemo_4_0.html and some recents clues here: http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2007-October/012080.html Regards, -- Rafael Proença https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CypherBios https://launchpad.net/~cypherbios http://www.cypherbios.org/blog http://www.ubuntu-br.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Maemo SDK 4.x beta
Rafael Proença schrieb: Is this a bug or a new feature? Neither. This is called API break, as you can see here: http://maemo.org/development/sdks/api_changes_between_maemo_3_2_and_maemo_4_0.html and some recents clues here: http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2007-October/012080.html Hm... I should have read that before. O.k. Funny thing that my bomberman package build straight away... -Klaus -- Klaus Rotter * klaus at rotters dot de * www.rotters.de ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Audio in on N800 and N810
Sampling rates: Is it true, that the N800 just supports 8 KHz sampling rate with the microphone in? If yes, is it the same with the N810? The N810 would be nice because of its build in keyboard. The PSK31 software isn't really that usable with a on screen keyboard. It looks like the N810 has a different audio codec to the N800: N800: [ 1.031250] ALSA device list: [ 1.031250] #0: OMAP24xx EAC with codec TSC2301 N810: [ 1.085937] ALSA device list: [ 1.085937] #0: OMAP24xx EAC with codec TLV320AIC33 N810 dmesg from here http://thoughtfix.com/tabletblog/dmesg.txt. N800 w/ OS2008 from here: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=84835postcount=159 My understanding is that the N800 can only record at 8kHz (see the bottom of page 5 here: http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tsc2301.pdf). Looks like the N810's codec is a bit more snazzy: http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tlv320aic33.pdf Cheers, Simon ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Audio in on N800 and N810
Hi, Klaus Rotter schrieb: Hello, for a application I port I need a audio in source on the N800 and the N810 IT. The N800 has a 3,5 mm jack with stereo out and audio in (microphone level). Does the N810 also has this jack? How can I use this jack? I have some problems to get anything other work than the supplied headset. I use transformers to separate the N800 from my HF equipment (a Ft817 amateur radio transceiver) and some resistors to reduce the audio level so I can directly input line level. But it won't work. Is there any resistor magic that will enable the audio in? Sampling rates: Is it true, that the N800 just supports 8 KHz sampling rate with the microphone in? If yes, is it the same with the N810? The N810 would be nice because of its build in keyboard. The PSK31 software isn't really that usable with a on screen keyboard. Besides 8 KHz also 16KHz should work for recording. Stefan ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: OS2008 pre-built image for download
Am Montag, 22. Oktober 2007 schrieb Quim Gil: There are no plans for a beta release of OS2008, sorry. Ah, well. It will be here soon anyway, eh? We are considering the possibility of releasing the open source stack of the OS (aka maemo Linux) earlier to help developers integrating and testing their software earlier, and receive feedback bugs from real users about the code under development. See http://desdeamericaconamor.org/blog/node/378 . It won't happen for Chinook, though. As commented when we announced the last 2006 Hacker Edition, there are plans and ongoing work to bring the HE up to Chinook levels. Note that this is not the same as offering the OS2008 for the 770. This is really great! I appreciate the latest Hacker Edition on the 770 very much and I am looking forward to see (some) Chinook features back ported! The 770 is just too good to be left behind :-) Krischan ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Maemo SDK 4.x beta
I also have to port my application too (pluto-nokia). I used your application to create a maemo wrapper for my application :) Downloaded and run Maemo 4.0 for vmware but didn't try to compile anything. will read docs before :) On 10/23/07, Klaus Rotter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rafael Proença schrieb: Is this a bug or a new feature? Neither. This is called API break, as you can see here: http://maemo.org/development/sdks/api_changes_between_maemo_3_2_and_maemo_4_0.html and some recents clues here: http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2007-October/012080.html Hm... I should have read that before. O.k. Funny thing that my bomberman package build straight away... -Klaus -- Klaus Rotter * klaus at rotters dot de * www.rotters.de ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- Cheers, Michael ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Audio in on N800 and N810
Simon Pickering wrote: It looks like the N810 has a different audio codec to the N800: [...] Ah, thats interessting. Thanks for the info. My understanding is that the N800 can only record at 8kHz (see the bottom of page 5 here: http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tsc2301.pdf). Hm... it just says something about the power consumption for different tasks. Well, 8 KHz is enough for decoding PSK31 signals. But some kind of a line in would be nice. Decoding quality would be much better if the signal had not to go through a loudspeaker and a microphone... -Klaus -- Klaus Rotter * klaus at rotters dot de * www.rotters.de ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: OS2008 pre-built image for download
On 10/20/07, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Orfanos wrote: Will there be a OS2008 for the 770? I suppose not. We have unofficial os2007 which can use from second release only :) Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Information Systems San Francisco State University San Francisco CA 94132 USA http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://opensource.sfsu.edu/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- Cheers, Michael ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Audio in on N800 and N810
What software are you using for PSK-31? 73 de N0YKG ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
